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TWR Wednesday | A Hurricane of Content! · The Whitfield Report

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  Now broadcasting from the Next Gen. conservative studio in
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  sunny South Florida, bringing you the latest in politics,
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  current events and pop culture. This is the Whitfield report
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  with Sam Whitfield. You know, folks, I just have to
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  start off the show by thinking our government overlord to
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  control the weather because, you know, without them, the
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  hurricane could have been much worse.
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  And, you know, between them and Bill Gates, you know,
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  controlling the weather, I mean, thank God for, you know, the
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  Bill Gates. Foundation And you know what?
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  What do we do without them? They keep us safe.
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  Yeah, totally. Like, that hurricane could have
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  been a lot worse. Yeah, well, I mean, I survived
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  and obviously, you know, surely survived Max, you know, even
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  though he's not even in the hurricane.
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  Territory. I guess the hurricane wiped him
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  out, since he's not here, but you know.
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  Blizzard or some shit. Yeah, I mean, you know, keep in
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  mind it's, it's August, but yeah, Blizzard in Massachusetts
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  and you know. In August.
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  Makes sense. Either that or Wolverine.
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  Schnick finally, like, got his revenge on him after after last
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  week's show, which I I do want to address that real quick
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  because people seem to kind of misunderstand what went on what
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  what went on with that. So last week I was going to
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  stream the GOP debate. And and then Tucker Carlson
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  obviously announced that he was going to be interviewing from,
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  so we decided to do that instead.
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  Basically. There were a bunch of people who
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  wanted to kind of do like a watch party stream of that so.
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  I basically sent out an invite to like a bunch of people in my,
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  you know, who I've done streams before and added them to a big
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  West. And whoever hopped on popped on
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  and whoever, you know didn't, didn't.
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  And so Wolverine, like, popped on and then Max popped on.
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  And as most you know, you know, they started.
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  Arguing about like, you know, CI clearances and whatnot.
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  And what's amusing to me is like, I guess some of
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  Wolverines, you know, friends were like, you need to control
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  your cohost or you know, something like that.
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  And I mean, I hope Max does show up because I like, you know, him
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  to be able to, you know, maybe address this, but like, I don't,
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  you know? The thing that's amusing is that
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  they they think I have control over like Max or you know, and
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  or Schmuley, like they're my coves.
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  But I I kind of, you know, I don't tell them what to say on
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  the show. They can, you know, say or do
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  whatever they want. Their opinions are, you know,
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  their own and they differ from mine.
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  And on a lot of stuff, we do agree.
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  But it's like I don't control my I don't really control what
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  either my guest or my house was saying.
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  So. Yeah, and I I listened to it and
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  like unlike Max, like I believe that he's like Level 3 prestige
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  dude. Like he he probably got the
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  tactical nuke like 7 times, you know?
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  Yeah, I mean, listen, I've, I've, I've talked to him and you
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  know, he he does have like some. You know, like I in all
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  decisions, like I do believe that he has some.
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  Insights. Insights into, you know,
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  military intelligence. But I mean, Max has everybody to
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  be skeptical when you know. Well, I mean, I I I think the
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  guy was probably not putting the best foot forward.
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  I I do think he was probably drunk on the stream.
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  Just by how he was speaking and it and I heard him speak prior
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  and I think he was more succinct and he sounded better and better
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  articulated his points than when Max was on.
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  So I I definitely think there's that, but no, I I think that the
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  guy was probably, like I said Level 3 prestige.
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  He probably unlocked the the gold AK and you know thank you
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  for your service. Oh, Speaking of Speaking of the.
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  The man in question, Max. The young man in question.
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  That's right. I agree.
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  I'm officially young now, God damn it.
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  Like just just because, like I agree with Max probably that the
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  guy's probably not telling the whole truth.
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  I also do appreciate every insult he gave to Max.
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  Like all of that was great. Well.
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  I was hoping for better. Like, he really kind of stumbled
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  the ball like like everybody. He was a little secret.
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  Guys like this isn't the first time people have said balding to
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  me right as an insult. That ain't that ain't it,
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  brother. I'm a Neanderthal is what it is.
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  I actually have like, hold on, It's not even in great, the
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  greatest condition today. I have the hair of like a metal
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  80s God. So like calling me balding, it's
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  like. What I would have said.
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  What I was. Insults.
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  The thing about insults is you have to hit on something that
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  the person's actually got like a thing about.
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  So, so calling me bald, it is like the worst thing you could
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  ever do, you know? Because that's what that's what
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  the fucking the samurai dude says.
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  It's just like bro. That's what they said at the
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  Straight Pride pictures. I had the whole left wing saying
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  he's balding and I'm just laughing.
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  Yeah, I mean I would have went with like you know, patchy
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  beard, looks like half eaten bag of what do you call cotton
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  candy. Yeah, there you go.
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  For the go for the beard, right? Definitely right.
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  Or not that. That bothers me, but it's like
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  it's more rooted in reality. It's a thing that people would
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  go, oh, like obviously I'm not the best insult guy, but like
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  you would imagine like a a black dude on the street to say
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  something about like your beard so patchy it looks like you know
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  and everybody would go, oh damn, yeah, that's true.
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  Why is that true? The best insults are when it
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  when when everyone is just asking themselves why is that
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  accurate? Like how the hell can that be?
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  Correct. Well, and and you can hit
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  somebody with an insult that is about a thing that they're not
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  conscious about, like me being bald.
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  That could work. If there was like a whole crowd
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  of people that went, oh, I might be like, all right, but also
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  like I'm I'm way quicker on my feet than that guy and that
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  didn't work out well for him. Like I said, I think that he was
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  intoxicated. Well.
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  I was smoking pot. Bro so.
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  Well, it should have. Been You know, beer people are
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  usually better at starting a fight than pot people, right?
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  Well, no, The thing that's funny is so I don't know how much you
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  caught before you popped in, but as I was explaining like I've
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  gotten some. Questions from people like you
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  know what, What basically what was the whole thing?
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  So like as I explained to Shmuley in the audience, I can
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  tell. Sam don't even know what the
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  whole thing was, right? He's just sitting here.
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  Well, and this guy's talking. And then I started asking some
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  questions. What happened was I sat there
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  for before I started asking questions, I sat for quite a
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  while listening. Right.
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  And you can watch it. You know, I made the shortcut of
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  it. People have seen the clips, but
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  go back and watch the whole thing.
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  Guy keeps saying shit. He's like, I work for the DoD,
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  OK, maybe. Right.
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  Like that. That part I wasn't like, Oh my
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  God, this guy's full of shit now.
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  I also work for the CIA. OK, OK, maybe you do both.
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  I don't know. Now, I also have been at every
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  major political event in the last 70 years where somebody I
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  know was a part of it. OK, now you sound A.
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  Little full of shit. But we're getting there.
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  Some of it is, but I didn't even say that.
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  Then he was a secret agent, right?
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  That works for the DoD. And then I was like, OK.
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  And then he served in both Iraq and Afghanistan, multiple tours,
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  and I'm just like, OK, bro, right?
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  Like some of this is just fucking bullshit, O.
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  I said he was started staying up.
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  Stuff about the Maui thing. And while I do blame the
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  government incompetence for a lot of what's going on there
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  okay government incompetence has been my biggest gripe since the
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  day I picked up the fucking microphone.
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  But he was he was said you know he was basically getting it like
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  the space laser theory and I was just like all right this is not
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  what we do on Sam's show ever. So I feel like maybe a little
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  push back was was worried he just lost it.
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  Yeah, well, the. The other thing too, because
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  like people thought that like I that I invited him to silly on
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  and what I was trying to say is, you know, so like I explained
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  just more in the audience at the beginning.
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  You invited, you invited like 10 people, whoever wanted to come
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  talk and he's the one that showed up.
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  So what what happened was basically I got was basically
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  like I got so. When I found out that, you know,
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  the the GOP debate was going on, there were a bunch of people who
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  wanted to do like a watch party stream.
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  Because. And so I said, hey, you know, I
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  that's when my show is on Wednesdays.
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  Why don't I host it and all kind of just open?
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  Because here's the thing. If we don't do something like
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  that, we run the risk they're just going to go watch the
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  fucking thing anyway. Right, so.
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  So we're trying to involve people.
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  You know. He's the one that showed up and
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  and and respect for that. He showed up to give his peace
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  and I gave my peace back to him. Right.
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  But in in that. But that's kind of my point
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  though. Like people, people think that I
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  like, purposely invited him on and then like, you know, and I
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  mean in a way. I was.
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  Doolittle way harder questions than he was getting.
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  I I want to say this. I wasn't even there.
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  And you and schmooly asked. You guys are tougher on on a guy
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  that you both like and respect, right Then this guy.
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  I just think he's got really thin skin.
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  He left. He we had the group that you had
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  started when you invited everybody.
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  You gave him all the link. And he left it the other day and
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  poor Morpheus was like, I'm sorry if I did anything.
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  I'm like, you know, you didn't do anything.
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  Yeah, I'm LOL because that's funny.
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  I'm awful. Hey, because Morpheus and I, we
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  bust each other's chops all the time.
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  I mean, yeah. You were doing it just today on
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  Twitter in front of everybody, yes.
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  Yeah, so more. Well yeah so like more to ball
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  more to ball Buster but then but then when it comes down so Mars
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  ball Buster he'll he'll ask me the first be like oh shit I
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  invited to start a fight or anything like like that and and
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  so. I get why he was like a little
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  concerned because he posted like a couple things of like, hey, I
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  think it was news or something. It wasn't anything like big.
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  It was just like, hey, I saw this.
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  And then the guy left and he was like, oh shit, did I drive him
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  out with sending too many messages or something?
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  It's like, Nah, not really. But.
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  He's still mad at me and look, I have no future plans of fucking
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  with this guy. I had my one laugh making the
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  video, calling him Secret Agent Man, and then life moves on.
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  As far as like as far as like you know trolls go or something
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  like that, like that was like. That was like the most milk.
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  Toast. Like, you know, harmless like.
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  I'll upload another clip of me trolling somebody in a chat like
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  that from a few years ago. And then people can see the
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  difference between me being nice like I was with that guy and me
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  being mean like I was with the single mom who fucking truly
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  knows what I mean. That there's a there's a clip
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  called Max Triggers a Single Mom and She Goes nuclear into
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  fucking Orbit. That was.
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  That was amazing. I mean.
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  She she accused people of being rapists because of jokes and
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  stuff. It was great.
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  But but like. Look, this is it all comes down
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  to like what kind of fucking show does Sam want to create?
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  And if I'm not wrong about this, it's the kind of show where he
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  can invite 2 guests and if they ask each other questions or you
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  know, have an argument, it's it's fair.
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  I don't. Uh, I don't think.
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  Sports over here, right? Now.
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  Like, that's not the whole point is to just scream at each other.
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  No but but at but at the same time that this is my that this
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  is my other point like so this is my other favorite thing
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  because like merch did this with Apex Gamma and I think I think
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  some of like Wolverines friends kind of said this is my favorite
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  one can control your cohost Sam and it's like OK that's annoying
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  because it's like hey like. The way they say it's, it's
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  like. Well, let me, let me let them in
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  on a little secret that the way I talk to people and me being
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  quick witted and stuff is actually why he keeps me on as a
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  cohost. Like like what I was saying to
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  that guy was true. I'm here because I asked
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  questions, because Sam also asked questions.
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  And Sam also dunks on people. If you didn't know, you know
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  it's it's. I was Speaking of Speaking of
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  that, Max. I know we don't usually talk
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  about merch on the show, but but damn it if he's.
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  Kind of brought it on himself, hadn't he?
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  If that guy hasn't, if that guy hasn't, hasn't tweeted some
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  stuff that we have to cover tonight, I yeah.
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  No, no, that's good. I also wanted to say shout out
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  to Twitter for being like or ex for being like stupid.
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  I got. I got mass reported for for a
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  profile picture. Okay.
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  I'm not going to get into all the details of it but I got mass
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  reported by people who but heard about, you know, whatever I was
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  saying and because I changed my profile picture to what a lot of
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  people did because we were making a point, you know that
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  we're all kind of in the same boat as anonymous shit posters
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  online and of course that gets us flagged.
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  Well, I've. I've never broken, I've never
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  broken Twitter's rules in 14 years.
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  On it. You can look at my fucking bio.
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  You'll see it was like 2008. I joined.
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  I've never even been suspended before.
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  I know all my friends have but I have not.
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  And this time they didn't even find anything to get me for.
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  But my account still got locked anyway.
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  And so I'm. I'm trying.
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  I'm like, OK, I'll change the profile picture, right?
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  Reasonable. OKI can't.
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  I can't because when I changed it, they have to reverify my
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  fucking check mark. And then they.
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  Didn't, so I couldn't change it again.
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  So I had to I literally today, just before the show, had to
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  unsubscribe Twitter Blue or X Blue or whatever the fuck they
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  want to call it. And then as.
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  Soon as I did it, let me change my profile picture.
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  So I will say this, Elon Musk, you are incentivizing a lot of
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  people not to pay you money. Just just so you know.
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  I'm sure he'll listen to this and take it very seriously.
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  Well, I mean, listen, at this point we we, we do have, we do
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  have more of a chance of actually reaching Elon than
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  Mersh, who was who was complaining.
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  My my view. My view.
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  Counts are aren't as high as they should be.
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  What the fuck am I paying you for?
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  Elon must as if as if mersh. You know, I I know you think.
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  I know you think you're big ass. You know, Internet man,
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  Hollywood merch. But if you honestly think you're
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  going to get the attention of Elon Musk, who's, you know, a
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  Multi, you know, who's on his way to becoming a troll.
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  By insulting him immediately. Yeah, the first thing.
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  You do is call him like a motherfucker or something.
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  It probably he's just not even going to see it.
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  Yeah. He's probably got a filter for
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  that kind of thing, because think about how many people
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  tagged that poor bastard at this point.
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  Yeah, he yeah, he probably he probably gets insults like that
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  from people way more prolific and you know well known than you
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  are than you or I. And you know he's still the the
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  second thing I love is the fact that this that Mersh claims that
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  he's not like a wall cow or whatever.
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  And. But yeah, he'll post things like
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  I smashed my Kitty litter. Yeah, yeah, I saw that one.
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  It was It was way more detailed than that, too.
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  He was like, I smashed it, that I kicked it.
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  I threw a flip out because I didn't have enough viewers.
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  And it's like. Man, I wonder.
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  See mersh mersh Pro tip for you advice if you're gonna smash the
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  Kitty litter thing. Stream it.
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  Fucking Stream. People are going to watch.
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  It OK, they might be watching it.
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  Look, if you just care about views, bro, then make an ass of
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  yourself. You do that anyway, BDSP what
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  you got to understand right now, Marsh.
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  What you have is a result of that already.
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  The people watching you already at least a portion of your
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  audience is just there to fucking clip you.
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  Okay, So why not just give them? They're your biggest fans, bro.
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  They're the ones to. Watch every episode of your
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  stupid stream. Yeah, yeah, lean, lean into it,
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  dude. I also love the fact that like
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  Mr. Medicare is is coming back to stream I guess tomorrow
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  actually I'd say yeah, Mersh goes on like a.
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  And Mersh goes on like his whole thing with Medicare is that he's
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  faking the cancer, right? And so this comeback stream is
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  supposedly proof that Jim is faking it.
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  And. I wouldn't care.
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  Yeah, I wouldn't care if Jim faked it.
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  That would be the greatest prank ever.
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  He made like all he made like everybody, like cry and shit.
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  Like, that's pretty funny. That's.
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  Pretty funny. Yeah, like if he was just faking
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  it because he didn't want to deal with this shit anymore.
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  And then like six months later, he's like, bro, I kind of need
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  to pay like this car off, Let me do another stream.
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  Like, that would be so fucking funny.
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  I'm I'm dying laughing just thinking of the possibility.
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  So either way, Medicare wins, right?
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  If he's got cancer, he doesn't. He wins.
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  Well, he doesn't win. He's got cancer, but he wins
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  against Mersh. It's not a big W to have cancer,
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  but it's a big W that Mersh is an idiot.
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  So there's that. It's a big W that mersh like
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  it's well, it like in my mind it's it's big.
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  Would anybody know Mad? Hold on.
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  Would anybody except Mersh even be mad if Medicare came out and
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  say, yeah, the cancer thing, I was just fucking with y'all.
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  I don't think everybody would be mad.
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  I don't think one person would be mad because we'd be like,
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  Jim's not going to die now. Cool.
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  I what I would like to see him do is put on his camera and he's
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  eating a fucking crab and he's like, yeah, I said I had cancer.
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  Yeah, yeah, but no, no Mersh. See the I said Mersh should lean
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  into it. The problem is, is when he when
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  he tries to do like a hot take, that's going to upset everybody,
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  He says something really normal. When he thinks he has the good
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  take that everybody's going to agree with him, That's when he
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  says the stupid shit. Like, yeah, he's like, yeah,
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  everybody's going to think me smashing this fucking cat Kitty
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  litter thing is fucking great, then he has to post it.
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  Yeah, and and and everyone thinks that and everyone.
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  And he thought that like he thought that him like dunking on
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  me and doing like a two hour stream on me that one time.
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  Was going to like somehow drive me away from the Internet.
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  Instead all it did was like, it got I actually went on like a
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  podcast tour with like all with like with most of his A logs to
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  like talk about getting, you know into his stat with mersh.
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  So like, yeah, my, my advice, there's a lot of people that
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  should be driven off the Internet.
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  I think Mersh is kind of one of them you know.
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  But but then I would be less entertained.
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  So but like for his I say this like a lot of people should quit
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  the Internet because they can't help themselves but make
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  problems for themselves on it right.
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  And and he that's why I say he's one of them.
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  I think his life would be far better if he just went back to
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  being, I don't know, a shady strip club manager, whatever the
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  fuck he did. And there's a lot of other
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  people like that who probably just their time on the Internet,
• 23:03
  particularly among like the free speech part of the Internet.
• 23:07
  Not just the sector, but like the the part of the Internet
• 23:10
  that's a little bit edgy. It's not helpful to a lot of
• 23:13
  these people and they can't ever realize it.
• 23:17
  But that part of that is because they get so butthurt about
• 23:20
  everything. And because they get they have
• 23:22
  such thin skin, projection dictates that Sam must also have
• 23:27
  thin skin. Because I do.
• 23:29
  Yeah, and what it's like I. I love how the whole thing that
• 23:35
  like mersh is. He did this the other day.
• 23:38
  He's like, yeah well you're so and it's like, yes, I know.
• 23:43
  I'm like, I make joke of me being criminal like it's it also
• 23:47
  doesn't actually bother you though.
• 23:49
  No. Because that's just life for
• 23:52
  Sam. That that's like, I hate to
• 23:54
  break the illusion, Mersh. But, like, he knows what he has
• 23:58
  to deal with on a daily basis, and if it bothered him, he
• 24:01
  wouldn't be sitting here with the brightest smile you've ever
• 24:04
  seen joking about it. No, no, no.
• 24:07
  The thing, the thing that drive, the thing that like the thing
• 24:10
  that amuses me to no end is like mersh thinks that like, I must
• 24:15
  be like, you know, retarded or depressed or or whatever.
• 24:19
  But it's like. It's like this dude was also
• 24:22
  like, threatening to kill him was like threatening to, like,
• 24:27
  kill him because he didn't have enough, because he didn't have
• 24:31
  enough dabs for like because he didn't have enough cigarettes
• 24:34
  and whatnot for the hurricane. Meanwhile, the difference?
• 24:38
  I had to ask. Again, because I've heard of
• 24:40
  dabs before. I just want to make a quick
• 24:41
  point. The difference between fucking
• 24:44
  mersh and Sam is that, like mersh goes to Florida.
• 24:50
  Right. He moves here and his decision
• 24:53
  is to, like, drink at the the Apple fucking Applebee's bar on
• 25:00
  a Wednesday night Driver and Porter and martinis from Sargon
• 25:05
  the Waiter. And then gets offended when a
• 25:08
  when a a single mom at Applebee's on a Tuesday dares
• 25:14
  hit on him. A man at his stature, Yeah, like
• 25:18
  an hour before closing time when they're the only two people
• 25:21
  there and he's like. How dare you?
• 25:22
  Meanwhile, Sam moves to Florida and like he's over here, he's a
• 25:27
  learned fucking man. Author You know his his feed
• 25:42
  doesn't have. He has valuable skills.
• 25:31
  He has more money. He fucking dresses better, his
• 25:35
  rooms cleaner. He's a better streamer.
• 25:44
  That Jesse from Pot Awful catches after you know Mersh is
• 25:48
  going on some racist rant. I love, I love how Mersh tries
• 25:53
  to like Co opt the goon alarm as if he isn't like the epicenter
• 25:57
  of it. Like he loves to talk about it
• 26:01
  now, like he discovered this thing and he wants to inform
• 26:04
  everybody about it. But also, he says, it's only
• 26:07
  black people and it's like, mersh, you're not.
• 26:09
  Black and you chirp quite often. Like we have three men sitting
• 26:17
  with, sitting with microphones in front of them, right?
• 26:20
  And so like this is a kind of thing that could happen to
• 26:23
  anybody except if you hear the chirp.
• 26:27
  If you don't hear the chirp. To be to be fair, I've had an
• 26:32
  alarm go off while I was streaming.
• 26:34
  Now, to be fair, it was going off due to smoke, right?
• 26:39
  Yeah, somebody. And so that was funny.
• 26:41
  That was actually funny cuz I just.
• 26:44
  I just said my house is on fire and then continued streaming.
• 26:47
  With fire alarm. Just fucking blaring.
• 26:50
  Well, there was there was a time where I was doing cringe coffee
• 26:53
  house in the morning and they decided to test all the fire
• 26:57
  alarms in my building at the same time.
• 27:00
  And I was just like, I just sat there for a second.
• 27:02
  I muted it and I was like, yeah, it's nice when they when the
• 27:06
  fucking the, the, the home authority sends you a fucking,
• 27:10
  what is it, the fucking homeowners association.
• 27:13
  It's nice when they send you like a notice, like, hey, we're
• 27:16
  gonna be testing the alarms, but they didn't, so I'm just
• 27:19
  streaming it, whatever. I don't know.
• 27:23
  That's the only acceptable way to have an alarm go off.
• 27:27
  Yeah, I mean that's really non embarrassing.
• 27:29
  It has to be an actual fire alarm, not a sure, because that
• 27:35
  just means you need to change the fucking battery.
• 27:36
  And if you can't change the fucking battery, what are you
• 27:38
  doing in life? But you're you're right,
• 27:41
  ancestors had to hunt fucking bears and shit with a fucking
• 27:46
  stick and you can't change a. Fire alarm.
• 27:48
  Battery. Look, battery money would be
• 27:53
  life changing. True, true.
• 27:57
  With it, you guys donate some battery money to me.
• 28:00
  Let's let's put up a battery donation goal $300.00 and I'll
• 28:06
  get my smoke alarm changed. Please, please do that, Sam.
• 28:09
  Please put a fucking fire alarm battery goal.
• 28:14
  Yes, I'll do that. I oh, yeah, I should, I should I
• 28:17
  should I should change that? Just see if anyone notices.
• 28:22
  The battery to Mersh the great Strategist.
• 28:25
  Mersh, The battery fund, Yeah. I mean, I just.
• 28:29
  I don't understand who sometimes hold on.
• 28:35
  Sometimes those. Those are 9 volts OK and 9 volts
• 28:39
  lost you like a whole $2.00. Bro, the little square ones.
• 28:43
  Yeah, yeah. Those are expensive, you know.
• 28:46
  I mean, I like those cuz you can't get them at the Dollar
• 28:48
  Tree. What's more supposed to do?
• 28:50
  Oh. Shit, he's gotta go to the 99
• 28:53
  center less. Well, but I mean.
• 28:57
  You know, always he's he's got a Beamer, bro.
• 29:00
  I mean also all these jokes about the smoke alarm.
• 29:04
  I do want to point out one thing.
• 29:06
  He lives in public housing and all he has to do is call the
• 29:10
  manager up and be like the smoke alarms chirping and they'll
• 29:13
  bring him a fucking battery because they're legally
• 29:15
  obligated to make sure those work case you didn't know.
• 29:21
  If you're. I mean.
• 29:21
  I wonder. Fucking housing.
• 29:23
  Jesus. I wonder how many times like a
• 29:25
  fire breaks out in Section 8 and just everyone dies because all
• 29:29
  the alarms are chirping without any fucking yeah.
• 29:35
  I'm sure that. Yeah.
• 29:38
  Right. Well, but.
• 29:39
  But he probably doesn't call for the same reason that they all
• 29:42
  don't call, right? He doesn't want them to see all
• 29:44
  the dabs he's smoking in the apartment or whatever, man.
• 29:47
  Yeah, it's like, bro, like you should probably do that outside,
• 29:53
  you know, if you're not allowed to, if you don't want to get
• 29:55
  kicked out. Yeah, yeah.
• 29:58
  You probably have like a lease agreement of some kind that says
• 30:02
  don't smoke fucking in the house.
• 30:04
  You know, that's pretty common nowadays.
• 30:08
  Well, yeah, I. Mean and as and as like a
• 30:11
  non-smoker. I'm just like, what's the like,
• 30:14
  what's the big deal with just like going outside to smoke?
• 30:17
  It's not. I smoked for 20 fucking years,
• 30:20
  Okay in Massachusetts. So the weather has not always
• 30:23
  been compliant. And for the last 15 years that I
• 30:28
  smoked, I was religious about going outside, even if I was
• 30:32
  allowed to smoke inside. I got to the point where I
• 30:34
  wanted to, even if it was a Blizzard.
• 30:37
  Because you know what sucks? Sitting in a even if you're a
• 30:40
  smoker, if you're not a smoker that sits in a room smoking all
• 30:43
  day, going into a room that somebody does that in is gross.
• 30:47
  It stinks. Oh yeah, More now, because I
• 30:50
  don't, you know, regularly smoke cigarettes or whatever.
• 30:54
  But but even even when I did, I didn't like to sit in the
• 30:58
  fucking stench of fucking stale smoke.
• 31:01
  That's fucking weird. This is fundamentally why Sam
• 31:05
  and I are Gang dip. Yeah, we're better than Mersh.
• 31:09
  Who is gang cigarettes and any dabs just fucking turning pot
• 31:15
  into crack? Isn't that like like you?
• 31:18
  Yeah, like all the potheads, like, like, I'm not like
• 31:22
  shitting on anybody for their fucking choices because like, I
• 31:25
  smoke pot occasionally. But like, they're all like, it's
• 31:29
  natural. It grows in the ground, man.
• 31:31
  What are you going to do? And then they're happy to
• 31:33
  process it into like little crack rocks and smoke it with
• 31:37
  like they're using like, butane and all these chemicals to make
• 31:41
  it into a Little Rock. And I'm like, that's just crack.
• 31:44
  The saddest thing I've ever heard and and seen one of those
• 31:48
  people do was they had like a piece of tin foil that they made
• 31:52
  like a Tulip. They put it in that and then
• 31:55
  they put a fucking straw and they used like a BIC lighter and
• 32:00
  I was looking at that. That's how crack heads do it.
• 32:03
  That's what I'm saying. Like I was looking at them and
• 32:05
  I'm just like, are you are you doing crack?
• 32:07
  Like this is bad? This should be rock bottom
• 32:09
  you're sitting on. Yeah, yeah.
• 32:12
  I don't know. I mean, call me oldfashioned,
• 32:14
  but I'll just, like, roll a blunt.
• 32:16
  And now, apparently, a blunt is oldfashioned.
• 32:18
  Cuz you can get weed crack. Yeah, I was like, bro, we can't
• 32:22
  be friends anymore. You're gonna be doing this shit.
• 32:25
  You know what I mean? Damn.
• 32:26
  Well, no. With what's even.
• 32:28
  What's even funnier, though is like Mersh and I have like been.
• 32:35
  I I've actually think like I've lived in Florida officially now
• 32:38
  for like 10 years. And I think Mersh might actually
• 32:42
  have like, you know, I think you had to moved here like either
• 32:46
  around the same time or like a year actually earlier than I
• 32:49
  did. So like he's been here like 10
• 32:52
  or 11 years years. The fact that he's like freaked
• 32:55
  out about about, like hurricanes and like, oh man, like, I'm so
• 32:59
  stressed out. Like, like, OK, I can understand
• 33:03
  if it's like your first hurricane or like even your
• 33:05
  second, but like by your third or fourth and you're living
• 33:09
  here, it's like. I mean like that's true up here,
• 33:14
  right? It's like because and especially
• 33:17
  up here because we only get for every like 5 you guys get that
• 33:21
  do damage. We get one like one of them
• 33:23
  survives up the coast. It hits us by the time then like
• 33:27
  I I think the last like category four or five we got was like in
• 33:31
  the 90s or maybe the early 2000s.
• 33:34
  No, no, The one when I moved in 2009, I was in the middle of
• 33:37
  moving was Irene. Yeah, Irene and power for the
• 33:41
  all of Massachusetts and Rhode Island was out for like 2 weeks
• 33:44
  and I'm stuck between 2 apartments.
• 33:46
  That was great. But no, we we get that.
• 33:49
  And you know what I do with a hurricane, My wife like, thinks
• 33:52
  I'm insane is I sit outside and yell at it.
• 33:55
  Is that all you got? Motherfucker?
• 33:58
  I love a hurricane. Like, they're cool.
• 34:01
  Well, we'll see. We'll see.
• 34:02
  And Schwill and I were talking at the beginning.
• 34:04
  How worse? How both he and I are so
• 34:07
  grateful for the government controlling the weather.
• 34:10
  Because as it turned out, the hurricane was so much less worse
• 34:15
  than it could have been. Yeah, because they controlled
• 34:20
  it. So really served me a screenshot
• 34:23
  of some guy who was like, you know what?
• 34:25
  You see there's a hurricane in California and in Florida and
• 34:28
  it's like, yeah, it's it's hurricane season.
• 34:31
  Well, what about all the wildfires?
• 34:33
  Yeah, it's also wildfire season. Bro, like, yeah, my, my, the
• 34:37
  response was like, there was a fire in Hawaii, there was a
• 34:40
  hurricane in Florida, there was an earthquake in fucking
• 34:44
  Wisconsin or whatever. And there was a, what do you
• 34:48
  like a wildfire in California? And I'm like, yes, yeah.
• 34:54
  Don't you see a pattern? No.
• 34:55
  Yeah, yeah, you don't see a pattern.
• 34:57
  And it's like the I said, the next thing he's going to say is
• 35:00
  and then all the leaves fell off the tree at the same time.
• 35:05
  You going? To tell me that's a coincidence?
• 35:07
  I don't fucking think so. I mean to to be like.
• 35:11
  To like. Steel Man, these points that I
• 35:14
  keep saying about the weather and all this shit, the laser
• 35:19
  ones from space or like, that's like the least.
• 35:22
  That's the one I'm like, oh, maybe.
• 35:24
  Like, that's that's the one I'm like, maybe that could be a
• 35:27
  thing. I could that could be developed,
• 35:29
  that would be developed in secret, right?
• 35:32
  How How about that? They're objectively proving the
• 35:34
  Antifa started at least one of those wildfires.
• 35:37
  Yeah, in California, yeah. Climate activists starting
• 35:41
  wildfires to further their agenda.
• 35:44
  That's a thing, I believe. But you see, like I don't just
• 35:48
  go, I know that it's lasers, and I know that there's no other
• 35:52
  possible explanation. And I've noticed that this is
• 35:56
  all a pattern because it's all being controlled by 1 central
• 36:00
  point like that's dumb. And and that's the difference is
• 36:04
  because I and I and I pity those people.
• 36:06
  Because they have this unfounded notion that the people in charge
• 36:11
  of this country or if they think the world or whatever the people
• 36:14
  in charge they think are not only competent but super duper
• 36:20
  competent and can completely keep a secret no matter how many
• 36:25
  of them there is and do all these things for some unknown
• 36:29
  reason sometimes they would literally, you know, have the
• 36:32
  exact, you know, bad effect as it is opposed to like a good
• 36:36
  effect on these people. You have to accept all of this,
• 36:40
  and I just don't accept that the people in charge are competent
• 36:43
  because I'd see the incompetence from the top down.
• 36:46
  Well, they were talking a lot of times.
• 36:48
  They talk about the meetings that the powerful people have,
• 36:51
  right? And they're like all they think
• 36:55
  that like if you were a fly on the wall in those meetings that
• 36:57
  they're like, OK, and So what you're going to do is you're
• 37:00
  going to invade this other country and then what's going to
• 37:03
  happen is this and that. And then we're going to have a
• 37:05
  depression two years, and then we're going to let smallpox
• 37:09
  break out in Africa on the 30th. And you know, like they think
• 37:14
  that these people are setting and that they all agree on
• 37:18
  everything at these meetings, right?
• 37:19
  They're all already on the same page.
• 37:22
  It's not like 1 guy's coming in there.
• 37:23
  And like, damn you Saudi Arabia. You fucked me this year.
• 37:28
  Sure. I told you last meeting not to
• 37:31
  fuck with me. Yeah, they're.
• 37:33
  I bet you this. I bet you at Bilderberg Group
• 37:35
  there's fist fights. You want to bet?
• 37:36
  Yeah. No, no, there's definitely
• 37:39
  counter elites or whatever. But like, my point is it's not
• 37:42
  even counter. It's not even counter.
• 37:43
  It's like this is what occurred. We talked about this last year.
• 37:47
  Fuck you. They're both elites, right?
• 37:48
  And they just like that's the thing, is it leads disagree.
• 37:51
  All the ones you know on the same page even disagree.
• 37:54
  Everybody. They they counter each other.
• 37:57
  But my point is that if you were a fly on the wall, you would
• 38:00
  find them going, fuck, this happened.
• 38:02
  What are we going to do? And that happened.
• 38:04
  What are we going to do? They're not in there fucking
• 38:07
  planning all of the future and intricate details.
• 38:09
  They're reacting. What's fuck is going on and
• 38:12
  trying to figure out what they should do and maybe and maybe
• 38:15
  talking to some people that go outside like I bet you this year
• 38:18
  at some of these meetings is going to be like, yo, Uganda
• 38:20
  guy. What the fuck?
• 38:22
  And he's going to be like, we don't like Pedos and that's
• 38:25
  going to be the end. But like, that's going to happen
• 38:29
  right when somebody fucking does something stupid on the world
• 38:32
  stage and then there's a representative at these
• 38:34
  meetings. I doubt they're like good job
• 38:36
  guy, you know? Yeah, well, like, that's like my
• 38:41
  economy, you know? Nigeria is like my economy's
• 38:44
  suffering because of you, you know what I mean?
• 38:46
  Like. Well, like like.
• 38:48
  That's the whole thing like if if there like if there were like
• 38:52
  some like global like ball or what or what not like running
• 38:55
  everything like why? Like why do all these countries
• 39:00
  like fight with each other then? Like, that's the whole.
• 39:04
  Yeah, you know, well, because there is like a global elite
• 39:07
  that like, does run everything. It's just that they're not all,
• 39:11
  they're not competent and they're not on the same page.
• 39:14
  That's my personal opinion. I stand by that 100%.
• 39:18
  I think that a lot of them are actually idiots.
• 39:21
  A lot of them don't understand technology and that's why
• 39:24
  they're getting fucked by the Internet so hard.
• 39:26
  If they if they did have this great plan, you know, letting us
• 39:30
  talk was a bad idea, right? They could have.
• 39:34
  They could have stopped that before it happened.
• 39:37
  Yeah, yeah, if if they were competent like that.
• 39:39
  But they don't they they're not where it's not 5D chest.
• 39:43
  Like I said they're reacting to stuff.
• 39:45
  But I I can prove like WEF is not batting 100 right?
• 39:51
  Like, not not even clue. They're basically hurting cats.
• 39:54
  Their strategy is to try to capture young people who are
• 39:57
  going to be in positions of power, influence them and have
• 40:00
  them do their bidding. Because people tend to be lazy
• 40:03
  and stupid. And they go to the meeting and
• 40:05
  they have a nice dinner and they hear a speech and they go, oh,
• 40:09
  this is what we're doing, guys. Yeah, but the fact of the
• 40:12
  matter. Is they they?
• 40:14
  Most of them share a base ideology too.
• 40:17
  Yeah, sure. Which that's important, because
• 40:20
  they don't even have to explain every little thing they're doing
• 40:22
  if they all have the same end goal.
• 40:24
  Yeah, well, you're going to go along with it because it sounds
• 40:26
  good and it sounds like corporate and it sounds buzzy.
• 40:29
  And these people are not all fucking rocket scientists.
• 40:32
  But as we see with the COVID stuff, they were perfectly fine
• 40:36
  going by the fucking white paper that the WEF sent to the local
• 40:40
  officials and the president and Biden and all the stuff until it
• 40:44
  was politically inconvenient for them.
• 40:46
  And then they jump ship. Yeah.
• 40:49
  Because of course they would. The WEF's plan is basically
• 40:53
  trying to herd people like cats. And because we don't live in a
• 40:57
  worldwide dictatorship with an org chart and a literal Ministry
• 41:02
  of Truth and all of that stuff, they're herding cats.
• 41:05
  They're an oligarchy. They flock.
• 41:06
  They have flocking behavior. They're not all stighiling and
• 41:11
  working in love. You look at the the factions on
• 41:14
  the left that most closely relate the worldview I think
• 41:18
  that these elites share and it's it's, you know, they get a they
• 41:22
  go over the line, they've been unhelpful to the whole thing.
• 41:26
  In fact, anti Antifa and Black Lives Matter was not helpful to
• 41:29
  the cause in the long term. I would, I would argue between
• 41:32
  that and COVID. Nothing woke more people up who
• 41:35
  weren't even politically active at all, had no idea what the
• 41:38
  fuck was going on. Now they fucking you locked them
• 41:41
  in your house and you had people start burning down the city.
• 41:45
  They start to get fucking political.
• 41:47
  But maybe that was the point. But they got a lot of them got
• 41:51
  political in the way you didn't want them to.
• 41:54
  Well, I love this whole idea too.
• 41:56
  This is this is a new one. I heard that Trump is still
• 42:01
  controlled opposition because. You know it's like motivate the
• 42:06
  right right. If it it was some half baked
• 42:10
  thing and I'm like well if Trump were control.
• 42:12
  If Trump were controlled opposition why would why would
• 42:16
  they be trying to like basically like frame him and like arrest
• 42:21
  him so much and like pin all this stuff on him if he if he
• 42:26
  were like controlled opposition and then and then it changed
• 42:30
  you. Well, Trump does actually know
• 42:31
  he's controlled opposition. Or something like that.
• 42:36
  And it was just like, uh huh, Right, Right.
• 42:41
  There's a lot of people that hate this country on our side
• 42:44
  actually. And I just disagree with that,
• 42:47
  right? A lot of people that would
• 42:48
  prefer some Civil War garbage scenario, cuz they all think
• 42:52
  they're the superhero main character from Fallout, right?
• 42:55
  And that they're going to survive and win and everything's
• 42:58
  going to be great, right? I hear this from people all the
• 43:00
  time. To me that means you hate this
• 43:03
  fucking country. I disagree, right?
• 43:05
  I don't want a Civil War. I think first of all, you know,
• 43:12
  just wait and see. You know, you keep telling me
• 43:14
  it's going to come soon and I keep waiting.
• 43:17
  I keep waiting. Well.
• 43:19
  Yeah, I mean, the way I feel is that, like the culmination.
• 43:25
  Of what I'm trying to avoid is conflict.
• 43:29
  It is the prevention of something like that.
• 43:32
  Like that's that's the thing. I'm like, hey guys, we should do
• 43:37
  something in order to prevent this from happening.
• 43:39
  And then I met with a bunch of idiots online telling me that
• 43:42
  that worst case scenario that we should avoid at all cost is good
• 43:46
  and they can't wait and they're going to be the main character.
• 43:50
  Yeah, they're all going to be a superhero living in an
• 43:53
  apocalypse movie, right? To them.
• 43:57
  And I hate to break it to you, but that's not how it's going to
• 44:01
  be for anybody, OK? You know this is?
• 44:04
  Not it's not a great thing. We're talking about a civil war
• 44:08
  in this country. You're talking about millions
• 44:10
  dead, maybe even hundreds of millions dead.
• 44:12
  And most of those are not going to be soldiers.
• 44:15
  They're going to be civilians. Yeah, old people, women,
• 44:19
  children, starving. Well, yeah.
• 44:22
  Well well then well and then it's like so this this is
• 44:25
  another thing because when I was part of yeah which is Young
• 44:33
  Americans for Liberty that that's like the libertarian
• 44:35
  equivalent of T of Turning Point.
• 44:38
  And there were all the there were all these edgy guys who
• 44:41
  were like who were like the boogaloo is coming and the the
• 44:46
  electric boogaloo is coming. You know, it's it's going to be
• 44:48
  like a mat that that particular term is the most cringe thing
• 44:53
  about these people. No, I I agree.
• 44:57
  It's like and it's like OK, but you're like and I I I, I brought
• 45:03
  this up to one of these guys. It's like, OK, like cool, but
• 45:07
  but like a you're £300 and you know you're like.
• 45:15
  You're like, you know, you're not in good shape at all and you
• 45:19
  don't have any. You don't have any firearm
• 45:21
  training except for like, playing Call of Duty, which
• 45:24
  doesn't, you know, count. It's like all any of these
• 45:28
  people are gonna be able to do in this scenario at most is
• 45:32
  protect their house. Maybe I like well, that's not,
• 45:36
  that's not saying much. Because if you're one guy with a
• 45:38
  couple guns and a large force of armed, organized people show up
• 45:43
  at your fucking door, you ain't gonna do all that much.
• 45:46
  Oh, you're. In a scenario like this, oh,
• 45:49
  you're a fighting age male, are you?
• 45:52
  Well, that's fun, because you'll be drafted, yeah.
• 45:55
  Into some kind of fucking side. I won't.
• 45:59
  I won't. But guess what?
• 46:01
  Guess what? I don't want you to wild.
• 46:05
  I don't want you to get drafted by you know, the the fucking neo
• 46:11
  Confederates or the fucking. Like.
• 46:13
  I just want. I just want basically what we
• 46:16
  had a couple years ago like a better economy, you know what I
• 46:19
  mean? A little more free speech.
• 46:22
  I don't think I need, like, piles of bodies, and I don't
• 46:26
  want young men to go through their lives away over something.
• 46:29
  Still, I'm guess I'm the. Asshole Guys, I'm sorry.
• 46:31
  Well, I just, I mean, I I guess in a lot of ways people could
• 46:35
  consider me more radical than you in the sense that I I want
• 46:40
  this sort of change. But it's all like class and
• 46:44
  culture and institutional and so yeah, none of it involves.
• 46:49
  None of it is reform rather than anything else.
• 46:53
  That's why we get along so well. Yes, you might.
• 46:55
  Be a rat in the end. Yeah, but what I'm saying is
• 46:59
  that like that is extremely counterproductive to slow
• 47:04
  gradual change in which we fucking take power and establish
• 47:09
  a new elite. That fucking supersedes the old
• 47:11
  elite and. You know, creates a better
• 47:16
  situation where the people who have power and are trusted can
• 47:20
  be trusted and don't screw over people who it's their job to,
• 47:25
  which is how we got here. The left did that.
• 47:28
  They called it the slow March through the institutions and it
• 47:31
  started. Yes, basically, I'll say it
• 47:33
  started in the 50s, but it really got boiling in the late
• 47:36
  60s. And that is why all the elites
• 47:39
  are leftist now. And we could easily do the exact
• 47:42
  same thing because it wasn't exactly a brilliant strategy.
• 47:45
  It was just an effective one. It doesn't take a lot of really,
• 47:49
  really smart people. It doesn't take a lot of
• 47:51
  resources. It takes a bunch of young guys
• 47:54
  who are willing to bite the bullet.
• 47:56
  Because look, when those leftists in the 60s, those far
• 47:59
  leftists, entered the education system, the college system,
• 48:03
  universities, they weren't far left.
• 48:06
  Okay, right. So what do you think the left
• 48:09
  had to do with that point, these young leftist radicals, Do you
• 48:13
  think they came on campus and said we're bringing communism to
• 48:16
  the country and you better like it?
• 48:19
  No, they went along and said. They went along and said yes, I
• 48:22
  am of this belief that you're pushing on me until they didn't
• 48:27
  have to anymore. I I would add the caveat that
• 48:32
  there was a lot of them that did push for radical retarded stuff
• 48:35
  and all of it failed. Every bit of it was completely
• 48:39
  useless. But but the people that that
• 48:41
  that held their nose and said yes, I am actually kind of a
• 48:45
  conservative or whatever. And then they became the
• 48:48
  professor and then the mask came off and a lot of them happened
• 48:51
  at the same time. Then they had another generation
• 48:54
  or two of that happening. Next thing we know they run
• 48:57
  fucking everything. We could do that.
• 48:59
  An advantage that we could do that, but you guys got to learn
• 49:02
  to hold your nose and use some fucking pronouns once in a
• 49:05
  while. I would, I would say too that
• 49:08
  there is one thing that could be our advantage that they didn't
• 49:11
  even have, which was when they were doing that, when they were
• 49:14
  doing the long March through the institutions, these institutions
• 49:18
  that they were having to infiltrate were trusted.
• 49:22
  Yeah, they're not anymore. So it'll be even easier for us.
• 49:26
  That it's easier to take them over or just establish a new
• 49:31
  fucking alternative to it that now competes it.
• 49:34
  Either or. And by the way, by the way, the
• 49:37
  the left did that too. That's why there's some of these
• 49:40
  universities founded in the 60s and 70s.
• 49:42
  Yep. And and I would, I would, I
• 49:46
  would pause it on that note that the way you do that is by being
• 49:50
  more truthful and providing more value to normal people than the
• 49:56
  alternative institutions. And that requires not being a a
• 50:01
  liar and a grifter and a conspiracy idiot.
• 50:06
  Yeah, well, you know, you have to.
• 50:09
  The thing about the conspiracy guys, I think, is that they
• 50:11
  genuinely think that because they were convinced by whatever
• 50:15
  it is that they're looking at, that everybody else will be
• 50:18
  convinced too. And so, like, I don't, I don't
• 50:21
  think they're dishonest a lot of times.
• 50:23
  I think some of them are obviously, but I but I do think
• 50:26
  that it's hard to communicate with them in any meaningful way.
• 50:30
  Well, in, in in. So Max going back to like.
• 50:34
  Your whole thing with like, you know the guy we had on that came
• 50:38
  on last week, like I secret agent, man, yeah.
• 50:44
  Yeah. Secret I think.
• 50:46
  I think secret agent like is one of those people.
• 50:49
  What? But like what You know he like
• 50:53
  he literally thinks that he's doing good and he legitimately
• 50:56
  thinks that like because he you know, like I I'm willing to give
• 51:01
  him the benefit of. Fit of the doubt that like yeah
• 51:03
  he had he maybe has seen like some classified you know
• 51:08
  documents in material. I'm not disputing the, but like
• 51:12
  I think a lot of these people like get so used to like people
• 51:16
  just taking their word for it that like whenever you get
• 51:19
  anyone who even who even and who even asked like a minute
• 51:23
  question like Are you sure about that or something like that they
• 51:27
  did. They just flip out and like
• 51:29
  that's the sense, that's the sense of what you did, you made.
• 51:32
  All you did was basically was give the guy like an awkward,
• 51:35
  like Tucker Carlson like stare and he flipped out.
• 51:39
  It was specifically, it was specifically he mentioned he was
• 51:42
  throwing out a bunch of unrelated information.
• 51:45
  And the one thing he said that stood out to me was he said
• 51:48
  that, oh, the sheriff in the corner of the same guy isn't
• 51:51
  that suspicious. And I was like, do you know how
• 51:53
  many rural counties in this country that that's true about?
• 51:57
  Like we go down to, like the Southwest, go down in in the
• 52:02
  poor parts of the South, the most rural parts of Alabama, the
• 52:05
  corner is the sheriff. Like that's pretty common
• 52:08
  actually. And he did.
• 52:10
  He didn't want to accept that that like that kind of doesn't
• 52:16
  mean anything to me. It sounds scary if you don't
• 52:19
  know that it's actually really common.
• 52:23
  Yeah, yeah. Well, yeah.
• 52:24
  Well, he probably didn't know it was common.
• 52:28
  Yeah, yeah, well, well, that, that's, that's the thing.
• 52:31
  Like that's the thing though, is once you bring up like that, you
• 52:34
  know, one little fact and you can look it up and verify it's
• 52:37
  true, then the whole, then the whole conspiracy, you know, go
• 52:43
  goes up in flames too. It's like.
• 52:46
  I do want to clarify one thing I said.
• 52:50
  I said stolen valor and I stand by that.
• 52:52
  That guy is doing stolen valor. He may be a veteran, OK, he may
• 52:57
  have seen some shit, but what he's saying about his service is
• 53:01
  not true. And I asked a bunch of my
• 53:04
  veteran friends this week and I showed them some of the clips of
• 53:07
  what he was saying and they all think he's full of shit too.
• 53:11
  They think, yeah, he probably served.
• 53:13
  He probably even went overseas. But no, he didn't do 2 terms in
• 53:16
  Afghanistan and one in Iraq. Nobody did.
• 53:19
  That's that they didn't. They didn't do that.
• 53:21
  They don't do three terms in a war zone, bro.
• 53:24
  That's like, regardless, yeah, yeah.
• 53:28
  What I'm saying is I think the guy has a military background.
• 53:31
  I think he might have even worked for the government at
• 53:33
  some point. But I say stolen valor, and I
• 53:35
  stand by that because most of what he's saying is bullshit.
• 53:40
  I yeah, but yeah, well, that well, that's, that's what I'm
• 53:44
  saying though. I I think a lot of these.
• 53:46
  I think a lot of these conspiracy people like they.
• 53:51
  They they got off on conspiracy theories and then they insert
• 53:54
  themselves into like the. I'm the fox.
• 53:57
  I'm the Fox Molder. Like, I I can see all the right
• 54:02
  and and the other thing I want to I want to make this very
• 54:05
  clear. The guy doesn't need to make up
• 54:07
  a bunch of shit about his military history to be liked
• 54:10
  because he's a decently nice guy.
• 54:13
  You know what I'm saying? Like it just seemed stupid to
• 54:15
  me. I I hate when people do that,
• 54:19
  when they don't need to, right? If you're going to make some
• 54:21
  shit up because you need people to be impressed with you or
• 54:24
  whatever, I can almost understand that if you're like
• 54:27
  an awkward, you know, non social person that doesn't understand
• 54:32
  anything. But if you're a normal person
• 54:33
  that can have a normal conversation with people, you
• 54:36
  got to understand that no matter how many times you tell these
• 54:39
  stories to a group of people, there's always one that just OK,
• 54:45
  Yeah, uh huh, Sure. And doesn't call you on it.
• 54:48
  I'm just not. That guy I'll.
• 54:50
  Call you. Yeah.
• 54:52
  Yeah. Well no the the other thing too
• 54:54
  was this was was this was like the so the other thing too is
• 54:59
  this this was you know this was during the interview between
• 55:03
  Taco Carlos and and Trump which you know was fantastic in in in
• 55:08
  and of itself. Right.
• 55:10
  We we all, I think we can all agree on that.
• 55:14
  But then he. But then he brought some stuff
• 55:17
  up that was like completely out of what fields from the Trump
• 55:20
  and Tucker in a interview too. And it's like, OK, what does
• 55:24
  this have to do with like what Tucker is asking Trump about,
• 55:30
  You know, so right. But when they get into their
• 55:35
  bubbles like that, the the guys like him, they start telling the
• 55:38
  same they talk about the same things a lot and usually they
• 55:42
  find people that agree because they don't like anyone that
• 55:44
  disagrees, right? You saw how he reacted and so
• 55:47
  everybody around them just generally talking about the same
• 55:50
  thing. So he's probably got some group
• 55:52
  chats or something where he's talking nonstop about this Maui
• 55:55
  shit. I actually, I I not looked
• 55:59
  deeply into the every detail of it simply because my take
• 56:05
  doesn't require me to. My take is that the government
• 56:08
  is massively incompetent and this was Biden's Katrina, that's
• 56:12
  my take. He said he had no comment.
• 56:15
  You know he kind of fucked himself and and the local
• 56:19
  authorities not knowing what to do and and not acting in the
• 56:23
  best manner possible to save lives.
• 56:25
  That doesn't surprise me at all. Not at the least.
• 56:29
  Yeah. Well I mean and that's, that's,
• 56:31
  I'll, I'll, I'll take one further, right.
• 56:34
  Like there are all those, they're all those conspiracy
• 56:38
  theorists that like believe that 911 was an inside job.
• 56:41
  Right. But my take is that like you
• 56:46
  know could the did the government maybe know, did the
• 56:51
  government maybe know about 911. Sure, maybe, but.
• 56:57
  Probably more like what happened was was there was a big.
• 57:03
  There's some strong evidence that has come out in the last
• 57:07
  year or so, if you're not familiar with that.
• 57:10
  That kind of Linds credence that some people were incredibly,
• 57:16
  unbelievably incompetent on that front.
• 57:19
  Like like to the point where you would say.
• 57:25
  There is probably some malevolence, you know.
• 57:29
  Right. Or rather than even calling it
• 57:31
  malevolence, it's usually just corruption, right?
• 57:34
  It's usually like, Oh yeah, I'll overlook this thing because it's
• 57:39
  not going to matter and you're going to pay me 20 grand under
• 57:42
  the table as a bribe to look over it.
• 57:45
  That that's not necessarily malice, right?
• 57:48
  But it is corruption, certainly, right?
• 57:50
  FBI was screaming up and down about fucking the hijackers and
• 57:56
  and had very strong suspicion, like they were ready to fucking
• 58:00
  roll in. And they were.
• 58:02
  They were roadblocked. Yeah, I'm not.
• 58:05
  I'm not. I'm not denying there was
• 58:07
  corruption and and and incompetence.
• 58:10
  In fact, I would argue that that in regards to 911 that that in
• 58:14
  fact was the case that that was the case as those to well as
• 58:19
  most to what Alex Jones and I did this conspiracy theorists
• 58:22
  have said for years, which is that it was a whole group of
• 58:26
  people like plotting in a dark smoky room to blow up the which
• 58:31
  is which is what that dude said at least once.
• 58:35
  I know it's in the clip I made. I mean, and I've and I've always
• 58:38
  kind of doubted that just because I'm like, I'm like, I
• 58:42
  don't, I don't trust anyone, especially George W Bush, to
• 58:46
  keep a secret like that for. Well, I don't, I don't think
• 58:50
  that he would necessarily be involved.
• 58:52
  I think would be very compartmentalized like I said, I
• 58:54
  mean and and it's carpartmentalized in the sense
• 58:58
  that like. The FBI is like, we got to
• 59:01
  arrest these guys and the CIA is like, Nah, we got assets in
• 59:04
  there. Yeah, Which is, which is what
• 59:07
  tends to be the biggest problem when you talk about malice and
• 59:11
  and intent within these federal agencies.
• 59:14
  It's it's we got assets. We're trying to get a guy.
• 59:18
  And and The thing is, whether CIAFBI, whoever it is, they're
• 59:22
  undercover assets. If they're agents, they act
• 59:26
  unethically to gain access to whatever it is they're trying to
• 59:29
  do 100%. And if they're not agents, then
• 59:33
  they're usually employing actual insane people, you know, because
• 59:41
  because the actual insane person might go off at some point.
• 59:45
  This is why they target, they target kids with autism, they
• 59:48
  target kids with all of these things.
• 59:51
  And when you hear about these mass shootings, almost every
• 59:54
  mass shooting in the last two years, I have seen a news report
• 59:58
  claim that this person was and I quote now it's a meme, right?
• 1:00:01
  Known to the FBI. Oh, so you knew.
• 1:00:06
  Well, what did you say to him? Did you talk to him or or her in
• 1:00:09
  that trans shooting case? Like, can we see these logs of
• 1:00:13
  chats between you? Because I want to know what my
• 1:00:15
  government did. Did you talk them into it?
• 1:00:18
  I think you might have. I've.
• 1:00:21
  Seen it? I've seen you motherfuckers try
• 1:00:23
  and talk people into shit. Don't bullshit me.
• 1:00:26
  Oh yeah, I well they they do that too with radical Islam.
• 1:00:30
  If you look at like their strategies because you can find
• 1:00:33
  that like their strategies for trying to entrap people for
• 1:00:36
  jihad. They specifically talk about US
• 1:00:38
  foreign policy. They talk about isn't it unfair
• 1:00:41
  they target immigrants who moved to the country from these areas.
• 1:00:46
  It's it's classic stuff, but just to say I'll try to find the
• 1:00:51
  the document so I can I can tell people.
• 1:00:54
  Wait, you don't have the documents?
• 1:00:56
  No, I've read it prior, but the basically the known to the FBI
• 1:01:02
  meme was basically true of the Al Qaeda fucking hijackers, but
• 1:01:06
  with the CIA. And like I said, the FBI was
• 1:01:09
  freaking out. Let's arrest these guys and the
• 1:01:11
  CIA is like, no, we got it. We're going to get them.
• 1:01:14
  And we've seen it for years. What do they fucking do?
• 1:01:17
  They go into some niche community, some radical
• 1:01:20
  community. As one of them, you know.
• 1:01:23
  Oh, I also dislike black people, brother, or whatever the fuck it
• 1:01:27
  is, Or I also dislike white people.
• 1:01:29
  You think they ain't infiltrating fucking PLM and
• 1:01:31
  Auntie Fuck. Come on and they come in and
• 1:01:34
  they'll be like everybody. There is already kind of radical
• 1:01:38
  politically, right? And they're going to be the guy
• 1:01:41
  that says hey, we should do X illegal thing because it will
• 1:01:46
  show them we're serious. So anybody telling you?
• 1:01:51
  To do something illegal in the name of your cause might just be
• 1:01:57
  a fat like. You should treat them as if they
• 1:02:00
  are. Unequivocally, don't get
• 1:02:03
  yourself in trouble for some dude on the Internet.
• 1:02:07
  I just my advice, I just don't want to lead to conflation.
• 1:02:10
  Like, I don't think that CIA planned 911.
• 1:02:14
  They just had informants that they were confident and they
• 1:02:18
  were going to spy on these guys and don't worry about it, Fam.
• 1:02:22
  Well, what I think is I don't think they planned it.
• 1:02:24
  I think they just, A, didn't think it would be as bad as it
• 1:02:27
  was, and B figured if they did some shit then we can go arrest
• 1:02:31
  them. That's what it's what it always
• 1:02:34
  is. That's why all the shooters are
• 1:02:36
  known to the FBI, because they they they find these psychos in
• 1:02:41
  some random discord or something.
• 1:02:43
  They chat them up for a couple months and lo and behold.
• 1:02:46
  You know, depressive Danny over here turns into mass shooter
• 1:02:50
  Danny. It's weird how that happens.
• 1:02:52
  It it's also. And then they won't show us what
• 1:02:56
  they said to Danny throughout the whole thing.
• 1:02:59
  And they won't let us see Danny's manifesto because it
• 1:03:02
  might. You know, I I think the
• 1:03:04
  manifesto and the trans shooting that we had recently that they
• 1:03:07
  refused to release, I am pretty sure that it's because that they
• 1:03:11
  named agents in it. 100% sure of that.
• 1:03:17
  Actually, I am 100% sure that that is why they will never
• 1:03:19
  release that manifesto is because that tranny shooter
• 1:03:22
  specifically named agents that they were talking to.
• 1:03:26
  I bet you anything because we get every other manifesto.
• 1:03:33
  Why is it? This one?
• 1:03:38
  That's probably a. You know what?
• 1:03:40
  That's probably actually the case there, Max.
• 1:03:44
  That wouldn't doubt that one bit.
• 1:03:46
  And they can't just redact it because it'll be so obvious.
• 1:03:48
  Even if they redact the names, you know what I'm saying?
• 1:03:52
  So they're like, they're like, oh, they'll just forget about it
• 1:03:55
  if we never put it out. That's what that's what I think
• 1:03:57
  is happening, but in every case. Look, they don't need to do
• 1:04:02
  anything if you. If you think that they need to
• 1:04:04
  do false flag school shootings and all this stuff.
• 1:04:06
  No, What they need to do is find somebody who's already on the
• 1:04:09
  fucking borderline, somebody who already says edgy things,
• 1:04:13
  somebody who perhaps Fed posts a lot and talk to him.
• 1:04:18
  I understand where you're coming from.
• 1:04:20
  I I believe the same thing. Also you should know this, this
• 1:04:24
  and this and hey. See how bad it is?
• 1:04:27
  Maybe you should do something about it.
• 1:04:29
  I've watched this happen to people I know that they fucking
• 1:04:34
  do this shit and I don't think it's coming from the fucking the
• 1:04:37
  the. It's like it's literally the
• 1:04:39
  deep state thinks they run the fucking country so they can do
• 1:04:42
  whatever they want. And also the low level agents,
• 1:04:45
  man. Isn't it nice to get a terrorism
• 1:04:48
  bust and get a medal in a Yeah, so, so you can you can find it
• 1:04:52
  online. Basically what it was.
• 1:04:55
  The FBI knew about essentially Saudi involvement.
• 1:05:01
  That kind of meant that the Saudi Arabians knew about the
• 1:05:04
  9/11 thing and they knew what Al Qaeda was doing.
• 1:05:07
  And once again, that they're like, let's arrest these guys
• 1:05:12
  and see what they know. We think that there's a terror
• 1:05:15
  cell. Yeah.
• 1:05:17
  And the CIA is like, no, no, those are assets and they
• 1:05:20
  haven't gone far enough for us to do that yet.
• 1:05:24
  And that and that's what it is. And I think that's exactly what
• 1:05:26
  happened. If you want the fucking full
• 1:05:28
  opinion on it. With the Oklahoma City bombing,
• 1:05:32
  I think they talked the motherfucker into it as they
• 1:05:34
  certainly a third party built the explosives for him, who has
• 1:05:38
  been identified by many as being a federal agent.
• 1:05:42
  It's not unequivocal. It wasn't in the court case
• 1:05:45
  because it was redacted from the jury.
• 1:05:47
  But it's certainly a thing. OK?
• 1:05:49
  Who built the fucking explosive that killed all these people?
• 1:05:52
  It might have been a federal agent that built the bomb and
• 1:05:56
  then told him, yeah, he's evil. I don't know, fucking anti white
• 1:05:59
  or whatever. Fucking Reddit.
• 1:06:00
  I think there was anti. I think they were like Nazis,
• 1:06:03
  but whatever. Whatever.
• 1:06:05
  Whoever your enemy is is over there.
• 1:06:07
  And here's this bomb. You know what to do and they go
• 1:06:10
  fucking do it, yeah. And then they and then the
• 1:06:13
  federal agents get to have this big investigation.
• 1:06:15
  When they catch the guy, they get the pin medals on
• 1:06:17
  themselves. They don't care about the dead
• 1:06:19
  fucking children. You think they give a fuck about
• 1:06:21
  The kids burned at Waco? They burned them.
• 1:06:23
  They did it. The ATF fucking did it.
• 1:06:27
  So they don't care about killing fucking children.
• 1:06:29
  They care about their metal and their raise and their promotion.
• 1:06:32
  That's what they fucking care about.
• 1:06:34
  The people at the the top I think have bigger fucking
• 1:06:37
  motives than that. But your average agent.
• 1:06:40
  They're just looking to fucking move up in the organization.
• 1:06:43
  But this is, This is why like Sam and Max and I like.
• 1:06:47
  This is why we have, even though we can disagree on certain
• 1:06:50
  things and and kind of be in different places, we can think
• 1:06:57
  of things in terms of incentive. And this is This is why our
• 1:07:02
  critiques are so different than most of what you find on the
• 1:07:05
  Internet, and it could be kind of lonely out there is that most
• 1:07:08
  people just seem incapable of, like, comprehending.
• 1:07:12
  What are people's incentives and how do they respond to?
• 1:07:15
  Them, I would also say kind of on the flip side to that, you're
• 1:07:20
  right. I would also say that that's why
• 1:07:23
  this show doesn't really get much hype as far as like,
• 1:07:29
  clickbait goes. Because we're not clickbait
• 1:07:31
  like, we kind of like. We kind of like debunk, click
• 1:07:35
  click. They almost like made on
• 1:07:37
  purpose. But like it is a thing where
• 1:07:39
  we're like where, you know, someone will say, oh you know,
• 1:07:43
  nine of them was an inside Jobby job and it's like, well, no,
• 1:07:47
  actually, you know, it was just massive incompetence.
• 1:07:52
  You know, like it's it's not as sexy, obviously.
• 1:07:55
  I'll say this, they certainly fucking let it happen.
• 1:08:00
  You know, like. Yeah, I'm not.
• 1:08:01
  We can, We can definitely say a lot of people knew it was going
• 1:08:04
  to happen. Why then with the with
• 1:08:07
  particularly like Cheney called off some fighter jets and stuff,
• 1:08:10
  why would they do that? Well, because they didn't think
• 1:08:12
  it was going to be as bad as it was and they thought, hey this
• 1:08:14
  is a crisis we can use. And then when they saw how bad
• 1:08:17
  it was, they were like, hey, we could use this to get everything
• 1:08:19
  we ever wanted. Right.
• 1:08:22
  I'm not. I'm not saying I'm not saying
• 1:08:24
  that, but I. But I'm saying, I'm saying
• 1:08:27
  they're they're a little people who were like.
• 1:08:30
  Who are like and George W Bush like purposely commanded you
• 1:08:34
  know the plans to go into you know because he's and it's like.
• 1:08:38
  I've heard. I've heard the space laser for
• 1:08:40
  this one too. The space laser gets used a lot.
• 1:08:44
  I kind of like the space laser. I can't lie.
• 1:08:46
  Like, that's a great conspiracy theory.
• 1:08:48
  Well, I mean. Especially when it was Jewish.
• 1:08:53
  Oh yeah. That was my favorite space.
• 1:08:54
  Well, also. Well, it well, was it like
• 1:08:58
  people to be, fair to be. Fair It hasn't hit South
• 1:09:03
  Florida. It hasn't hit New Jersey, you
• 1:09:08
  know? New York's not feeling.
• 1:09:11
  Yeah, I got. To be fair, you know, I'm just
• 1:09:14
  kidding. Well, I mean, yeah, the the
• 1:09:17
  magical, the magical space light is like you want to talk like
• 1:09:21
  secret. You want to talk like Super
• 1:09:23
  agent and like? When that that you know that's
• 1:09:26
  from Goldeneye, like and ever since then like everyone's
• 1:09:30
  basically copied that that that's basically there.
• 1:09:34
  There's a magical space, like if you're going to invent, if
• 1:09:38
  you're going to invent conspiracy theory, like stop
• 1:09:41
  having it be like James Bond tropes or something like
• 1:09:45
  something. No, they need no.
• 1:09:47
  They need to go like look. They started like the whole
• 1:09:50
  conspiracy kind of mentality started basically in America
• 1:09:55
  with the JFK assassination, right.
• 1:09:57
  And then the following assassinations that happened
• 1:09:59
  afterwards. Now what was the conspiracy
• 1:10:02
  there? Right now, I've said on this
• 1:10:04
  show, I believe that a communist rogue U.S. soldier that defected
• 1:10:10
  to the USSR and then came back and shot the president is a
• 1:10:13
  conspiracy in and of itself, but what's the?
• 1:10:18
  Is it space lasers? No, It's that there was other
• 1:10:20
  guys that shot him from over there, right?
• 1:10:22
  And everybody's just pretending that it didn't happen.
• 1:10:24
  That's the conspiracy. If that's where you start,
• 1:10:27
  that's like normal level. Like I've I've looked into that
• 1:10:30
  one. I I'm not going to say, like
• 1:10:32
  there's no possible way that that's the case.
• 1:10:36
  I'm saying it's the least likely.
• 1:10:37
  However, if they had said it was an alien or something equally
• 1:10:44
  way more absurd than that, I don't think it would have caught
• 1:10:47
  on. But then it's like with anything
• 1:10:49
  else, there is a level of like desensitization.
• 1:10:54
  They need bigger conspiracy theories.
• 1:10:56
  That's why Alex Jones was so successful.
• 1:10:57
  He was always offering them, even if he himself didn't
• 1:11:00
  believe in any of it, which in some cases, I think that's the
• 1:11:04
  case. I think Alex Jones said a lot of
• 1:11:06
  shit. He didn't care one way or the
• 1:11:08
  other. He was just being entertaining
• 1:11:10
  and and feeding into his audience.
• 1:11:12
  But. You got to keep stepping up your
• 1:11:14
  game. It can't just be there was a guy
• 1:11:16
  over there with a gun too. It has to be there was a space
• 1:11:19
  sizer, because that's way more entertaining to talk about in
• 1:11:23
  your doomer message groups for 8 hours a day than it is to talk
• 1:11:27
  about, you know, antifa started a fire.
• 1:11:31
  Or whatever. Well, Alex Jones is an
• 1:11:35
  interesting case because right, like.
• 1:11:38
  I started listening to Alex Jones like back in 2008.
• 1:11:42
  You know, back when I was using Winamp for, like, we talked at
• 1:11:46
  this Max, the very first time you came on my show just as as a
• 1:11:51
  guest, right? Like Alex Jones.
• 1:11:55
  The thing that's wild Alex Jones is he has said so much wild shit
• 1:12:00
  over the years, right? That's like out there.
• 1:12:03
  But then the stuff that he's gotten punished for.
• 1:12:07
  Is the stuff that he's actually been like 100% right on or like
• 1:12:12
  95% you know? Except except the Sandy Hook
• 1:12:15
  thing, I don't think. I don't think he was even
• 1:12:19
  remotely right on that. Neither does he, which he, on
• 1:12:23
  record in the court case, said. I don't believe that anymore,
• 1:12:26
  and I kind of didn't at the time, but my audience expects
• 1:12:30
  these kind of theories from me. Well, the thing too though, and
• 1:12:34
  I'm not like I'm not defending his take on Santa, but the way I
• 1:12:39
  don't. Think I don't think he should
• 1:12:40
  have lost for like what, a billion dollars or whatever.
• 1:12:43
  It's fucking. Right that that that was a bit
• 1:12:46
  much I think though if I if I remember correctly I don't know
• 1:12:51
  if it was Santa Hooker like another shooting but but I think
• 1:12:54
  he was like I think it was offering more of like a
• 1:12:57
  hypothetical like the government could.
• 1:13:01
  The government could use this as like an opportunity to like,
• 1:13:05
  take guns. He says that for all of them,
• 1:13:08
  but with with Sandy Hook in particular, he said that they
• 1:13:12
  were crisis actors. Nobody was shot.
• 1:13:14
  It didn't happen at all, and it was pretty insistent upon it.
• 1:13:18
  That's why he lost the lawsuit, because some of his clips from
• 1:13:22
  his show shown to the jury just kind of make it look bad, right?
• 1:13:25
  It looks bad. The problem is, is like the
• 1:13:29
  lawsuit, yeah, is way, way too much.
• 1:13:31
  But, like, it was not a fair trial from the start because you
• 1:13:34
  show Alex Jones stuff out of context to people and they're
• 1:13:37
  just like, this guy's out of his fucking mind.
• 1:13:40
  And that's why a lot of us like him, because he's kind of out of
• 1:13:42
  his fucking mind. And we'll just say any old
• 1:13:44
  thing, sure, you know, he's he's been right about some things.
• 1:13:50
  You say enough and you'll be right about everything you know
• 1:13:54
  and wrong about everything too. You know, you could be both.
• 1:13:58
  You talk long enough, and that dude was talking like 3 hours a
• 1:14:01
  day, five days a week for 25 years.
• 1:14:05
  That'll get you in some trouble over the time rush used to get
• 1:14:08
  in trouble over time, right? Oh yeah.
• 1:14:13
  Well also though, I mean, I think the fact that I think the
• 1:14:19
  fact that he was, you know, the fact that Alex Jones has
• 1:14:22
  admitted that he was drinking pretty heavily back then too.
• 1:14:27
  You know that that was another thing.
• 1:14:29
  But he should be. He should be allowed to say
• 1:14:31
  Sandy Hook was fake. I think that's my thing.
• 1:14:33
  I I don't agree with him and I don't agree with him at all, but
• 1:14:36
  I have some takes like that that if he's getting billion dollars
• 1:14:40
  sued, I would be concerned, right?
• 1:14:42
  Like, for example, I I don't believe the official story about
• 1:14:46
  Columbine because over 55 to 100 witnesses named named the third
• 1:14:53
  gunman. You know, the third gunman at
• 1:14:55
  Columbine. Did you know there was a third
• 1:14:57
  gunman? According to most of most of the
• 1:15:01
  witnesses, there was. And they knew who he was and
• 1:15:03
  could identify him in a lineup. They knew his name.
• 1:15:06
  They went to school with him for years.
• 1:15:08
  They said yeah, it was Eric Dillon and this guy.
• 1:15:11
  I'm not allowed to say his name because it's been fucking
• 1:15:14
  withheld from the records, but what he does now is he's a
• 1:15:16
  firefighter, but it's it's he was definitely the third member
• 1:15:21
  of the trench coat mafia. And almost 100 witnesses say
• 1:15:25
  that he was the 3rd shooter. And you've probably never heard
• 1:15:28
  this before, huh? No, I I, well, I think, I, I
• 1:15:35
  think I heard about it from you only because like you mentioned
• 1:15:39
  it a while ago. So.
• 1:15:42
  But I could be completely wrong, right?
• 1:15:44
  I'm just saying that it's like this is a thing that like a lot
• 1:15:48
  of. Witnesses say.
• 1:15:49
  Shouldn't we take that a little more seriously?
• 1:15:52
  Shouldn't it be something that's like widely known about the
• 1:15:54
  thing? Because this is an event much
• 1:15:56
  like 911 that has led to a lot of change in society since it
• 1:16:00
  happened. Couldn't we Get the facts
• 1:16:02
  straight? Couldn't we?
• 1:16:04
  Couldn't we find a way to fucking prove definitively if
• 1:16:07
  this guy was there? Nah, Nah.
• 1:16:08
  The police arrested him and then just said you're not allowed to
• 1:16:11
  talk about him anymore. His name is fucking removed from
• 1:16:14
  it. And that to me sounds like the
• 1:16:17
  Fed. You know what I mean?
• 1:16:20
  It always sounds like the Fed when that.
• 1:16:22
  Also, he wasn't a high school age person at the time he was
• 1:16:25
  graduated by I think 2 years. I don't know.
• 1:16:29
  I don't know. All I'm saying is if if Alex
• 1:16:32
  Jones can't theorize about Sandy Hook, I can't theorize about
• 1:16:37
  Columbine. Maybe we shouldn't be allowed to
• 1:16:38
  theorize about JFK. Maybe we shouldn't.
• 1:16:40
  Maybe nobody should be allowed to theorize about it.
• 1:16:43
  See, I don't like most of the conspiracy theories and I love
• 1:16:46
  to fucking get into the nitty gritty and kind of see.
• 1:16:49
  How they tick, right? But I would never, in my wildest
• 1:16:53
  imagination, want to take their right to fucking have them and
• 1:16:56
  speak them and talk about them. Yeah.
• 1:17:01
  You know that's insane because that will affect the rest of us.
• 1:17:04
  You know, it's it's a fine line when you're talking about people
• 1:17:07
  that are on conspiracies because on the one hand, they say some
• 1:17:11
  shit and you're just like this isn't helping us at all.
• 1:17:14
  But then on the other hand, the left is like, they need to be
• 1:17:17
  silenced forever. And it's like, no, fuck you, you
• 1:17:20
  want to silence me too? Which in their mind?
• 1:17:26
  Which, in the mind of a conspiracy theorist, like if
• 1:17:29
  you're trying to silence them. Yeah.
• 1:17:31
  Yeah, like and that's the whole thing too.
• 1:17:34
  It's like, you know, I don't I. I think a lot of this.
• 1:17:40
  I think a lot of this Gabe Hoffman, you know, shit is like,
• 1:17:45
  you know, it sucks that like merch and a lot of these other
• 1:17:48
  people like go after Gabe Hoffman.
• 1:17:50
  But I also think that the Gabe Hoffman, you know, for a while
• 1:17:55
  he was kind trying to shut down accounts and report like merch
• 1:18:00
  and other people. And it's like, well, you know,
• 1:18:03
  like merch is a piece of shit, but you're you are kind of like
• 1:18:07
  justifying what he's. I'd feel for all of them except
• 1:18:11
  that it it's the same, those same kind of people bitching
• 1:18:13
  about that kind of thing are the ones that flag in my account
• 1:18:16
  now. So I don't know.
• 1:18:18
  I don't know everybody who flags everybody's account is a not F
• 1:18:25
  slur that I was going to say on the show is a is a stupid
• 1:18:28
  person, is a bad person. I was going to say something
• 1:18:31
  else. Oh, you were going to say my
• 1:18:35
  favorite F slur for, you know, someone of A?
• 1:18:40
  Yeah, you know. Fagela fagela, you know Italian,
• 1:18:45
  say. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:18:48
  Of a nuke. So.
• 1:18:51
  You're a MOOC. Is MOOC still allowed?
• 1:18:53
  Can I call somebody a MOOC on the Internet anymore?
• 1:18:56
  I believe so. OK.
• 1:18:59
  Well then, Mersh is a merch is a fucking.
• 1:19:02
  MOOC and 1/2. Bro Merch is the biggest MOOC on
• 1:19:05
  the Internet, no doubt about it. Yeah, it's like, since I could
• 1:19:11
  say MOOC, right? Because the MOOC.
• 1:19:13
  A MOOC, if you don't know a MOOC is like a, like a Northeast
• 1:19:17
  thing, mostly New York. But we all say it.
• 1:19:19
  We're up for a guy that's just kind of a fucking idiot that,
• 1:19:22
  you know, you know, he's kind of an idiot and he's a little bit
• 1:19:25
  malicious. Maybe not the most malicious,
• 1:19:29
  but just a little bit. Just enough that you're like,
• 1:19:31
  what a fucking MOOC. Look at this MOOC over here.
• 1:19:36
  That's what it means. Yeah.
• 1:19:38
  That. Yeah, that is that is him to a T
• 1:19:41
  Yeah. And and all those.
• 1:19:44
  Yeah. It's also weird that like all
• 1:19:46
  these people complaining like flagging are now doing it so.
• 1:19:52
  Well, I'll say I changed my profile picture to what is
• 1:19:57
  essentially, it's a racist caricature because of Zanny
• 1:20:00
  Berry's, well, Zanny Berries I know, is just some dude, right?
• 1:20:05
  And people were like. He's all these dudes.
• 1:20:07
  He's everybody. He's doing all the things.
• 1:20:09
  And I was just like, I know for a fact that that's not true,
• 1:20:13
  bro. And this has been one guy the
• 1:20:15
  whole time. He gets banned and then makes a
• 1:20:17
  new account and says, hey, I'm the same guy, please follow me,
• 1:20:21
  right? He doesn't make 20 different
• 1:20:23
  like soccer counts. It's just the other people
• 1:20:26
  started using his name because everybody was getting blamed for
• 1:20:30
  him. Now, if anybody can relate to
• 1:20:32
  this, it's one blame Max. And on Twitter, who gets blamed
• 1:20:38
  for the stupid shit that other people do all the time.
• 1:20:40
  And so obviously I was a little bit sympathetic to this, right?
• 1:20:44
  So everybody was changing their profile pictures to his thing
• 1:20:48
  because it's like a Spartacus moment.
• 1:20:50
  Like if you're banning one of us, you're banning all of us,
• 1:20:53
  OK? That's what it meant.
• 1:20:55
  And and the people that flagged me, quite frankly, I used to
• 1:21:00
  think we're friendly. They're not.
• 1:21:04
  So it is what it is. I didn't flag anybody.
• 1:21:10
  I've never blocked anybody on Twitter ever.
• 1:21:13
  I could. I could show you my fucking
• 1:21:15
  thing. Right now it says it says you
• 1:21:18
  can use the block feature because I haven't.
• 1:21:21
  So they think I'm stupid and don't know how.
• 1:21:24
  You know what I mean? I know what I know.
• 1:21:28
  People love it. I'm not saying there shouldn't
• 1:21:30
  be like I'm not agreeing with Elon that there shouldn't be a
• 1:21:32
  block feature. I just don't block people.
• 1:21:35
  I find I never need to. I've I've only I've only blocked
• 1:21:43
  people like a few times but but but for clarification like it's
• 1:21:48
  it's usually an extreme it's usually like an in an extreme
• 1:21:51
  situation and. A lot of the blocks were also
• 1:21:56
  from a time before the mute button existed, right?
• 1:22:00
  I was gonna say I use the mute button occasionally, but here's
• 1:22:04
  the funniest part of that is I only use it for like a day, and
• 1:22:07
  then I'll unmute the person, cuz then it'll be done.
• 1:22:11
  Like nobody bothers me after that.
• 1:22:12
  But yeah, you know, you could say I block people.
• 1:22:15
  Well, you don't have Mersh blocked, and you don't have Owen
• 1:22:18
  Benjamin blocked, right? No, Owen.
• 1:22:21
  Benjamin has me. Owen.
• 1:22:24
  No. And Benjamin blocked me
• 1:22:25
  immediately after I after I tweeted and said, hey, I'm glad,
• 1:22:29
  you know, I'm glad you're back on Twitter.
• 1:22:33
  That sounds about right. Yeah, I just.
• 1:22:37
  I just don't. I don't block people.
• 1:22:39
  I don't. I don't really fuck with people
• 1:22:41
  like a lot of people do on Twitter.
• 1:22:46
  No, I just. I just stood up essentially for
• 1:22:49
  anonymous shit posters because and and that's what it really
• 1:22:53
  was all about. And what did we get for our
• 1:22:56
  trouble? Well, we all got flagged.
• 1:22:58
  Half of us got banned. I I'm the only one that didn't
• 1:23:01
  get banned from that wave of flagging and it's because I
• 1:23:03
  don't do anything on Twitter to get banned for.
• 1:23:06
  But they made me change their profile picture.
• 1:23:08
  But then they wouldn't let me change my profile picture and
• 1:23:11
  they said if you don't change it, we're going to close your
• 1:23:12
  account And I'm like, but you won't let me change it.
• 1:23:15
  So I had to, like I said, I had to unsub blue and all this shit.
• 1:23:19
  Elon, fix your shit. Yeah. 11 Rogue report should not
• 1:23:25
  fuck my account. And by the way I just want to
• 1:23:28
  point out because a lot of people don't know, let me let me
• 1:23:30
  tell you something a little extra about they're like because
• 1:23:33
  the people that flagged us said yeah, we probably did, but we
• 1:23:37
  don't care and you shouldn't cry about it, right.
• 1:23:39
  So Dick molestrosen, he's one of the ones that got flagged with
• 1:23:44
  me and his account is banned. You know what else his account
• 1:23:48
  had? Twitter Blue.
• 1:23:50
  You know what else he can't do? Think about it for a second.
• 1:23:53
  What can't he do? Log into his account?
• 1:23:56
  What? What would you need to do to log
• 1:23:58
  into your account? Stop the subscription.
• 1:24:02
  Yeah. So yeah, you did cost this
• 1:24:04
  motherfucker probably 8 bucks and it and then he has to go
• 1:24:07
  call his bank, right, and stop the charges because he can't log
• 1:24:11
  into Twitter and fucking do it. So yeah, you do cost people a
• 1:24:14
  pain in the ass. It is a fucking pain in the ass.
• 1:24:17
  That's what That's what happened.
• 1:24:20
  Vickers, it's not just a fucking it's not just nothing for us,
• 1:24:25
  OK? That's what happened to you when
• 1:24:19
  my. We like our Twitter accounts,
• 1:24:28
  OK? And and we don't want to have to
• 1:24:30
  get charged $8 a month because you're a crybaby.
• 1:24:35
  I and to be fair, I actually, I actually did bring that up to
• 1:24:39
  him. I know I brought it up to their
• 1:24:42
  people. I I've, I I talked to people.
• 1:24:45
  I tried to not have this happen. Everybody's a butt hurt little
• 1:24:50
  baby. Nobody can take any fucking
• 1:24:52
  criticism. So they got a report.
• 1:24:54
  I'm not going to report anybody. You man me off of Twitter.
• 1:24:57
  Oh well, I guess I won't use Twitter anymore.
• 1:25:00
  But I will talk and I will say that that's fucked up, OK?
• 1:25:04
  And let Dick molesters. It is about money.
• 1:25:06
  Maybe it's only 8 fucking dollars a month, but say he
• 1:25:10
  could not get his bank to stop those charges.
• 1:25:13
  That's infinite. 8-8 dollars a month times infinite, right?
• 1:25:18
  Well, well, that it it goes to these, these platforms like need
• 1:25:25
  a better way to, like, verify shit too.
• 1:25:29
  Because like Discord Furniture did the same thing for me when
• 1:25:37
  my first Discord account got banned because I had Discord
• 1:25:41
  Nitro like like five years ago and and when.
• 1:25:47
  And when my very first Discord account got banned, I was locked
• 1:25:52
  out of it and right like they they named like I tried to
• 1:25:57
  message them like cancelling my subscription and I had to call.
• 1:26:01
  I had to call my bank and have you know them like, well, Steam
• 1:26:08
  doesn't lock you out of your account when you get banned,
• 1:26:12
  right? You just can't use the online
• 1:26:14
  functionality. But what they don't do is if you
• 1:26:17
  have a subscription on Steam and you get banned for, I don't
• 1:26:20
  know, foreign behavior or something, there's things you
• 1:26:22
  can get banned for. They don't take your games away.
• 1:26:25
  They just you can't use the online part of Steam anymore.
• 1:26:28
  And they also allow you to log into your account to close down
• 1:26:33
  any subscriptions or payment services so that you don't get
• 1:26:36
  fucked. Right.
• 1:26:37
  Yeah, lots of other fucking companies do this.
• 1:26:41
  I don't understand why it's so hard for fucking Mr. 44 billion
• 1:26:46
  on the fucking thing, right? Yeah, well you could say, OK,
• 1:26:52
  you can't post, you can't DM, but you can log into your
• 1:26:55
  account and mess with settings. Well also well also think of
• 1:27:00
  this too if if he wants to like. That he wants to make X into
• 1:27:06
  like a payment processor thing, like he's been like he's been
• 1:27:10
  talking at this does not bode well for that either.
• 1:27:13
  Well, neither do the new the new terms of service coming
• 1:27:18
  September 29th. I just tweeted about them a
• 1:27:21
  little while ago. None of this now.
• 1:27:24
  Now I will I will say this like people have complained about the
• 1:27:28
  about the ID verification thing. I personally am not bothered by
• 1:27:33
  it because. Well, listen, I've been, I've
• 1:27:35
  been me. You know, I've been doing stuff
• 1:27:40
  under my actual name for years, so it doesn't bother me.
• 1:27:44
  But I do understand why people Well, it wasn't, as far as I
• 1:27:48
  understand, that wasn't going to be mandatory even if you had
• 1:27:51
  blue. It was just an extra thing you
• 1:27:52
  could do. But what I'm talking about is,
• 1:27:55
  no, they're saying that they're going to ban a lot of accounts
• 1:27:58
  after the 29th of September, that they're they're making
• 1:28:02
  their hate speech laws more stringent.
• 1:28:04
  Or rules rather. Yeah, the Twitter's going full
• 1:28:07
  censorship right before the election.
• 1:28:10
  I don't know what Elon has to say about this for himself, but
• 1:28:13
  I don't think there's really anything he can say that's going
• 1:28:15
  to win someone like me over as I'm getting, as I'm getting
• 1:28:21
  already wrongfully fucking flagged down, and they're like,
• 1:28:25
  we're going to take flagging more seriously now.
• 1:28:27
  I'm like, you already take it. One dude flagged an account that
• 1:28:31
  had been up for 14 years without one fucking problem.
• 1:28:34
  One dude flags my account and I'm locked out for a week.
• 1:28:40
  This is this is insane. They're going to make it more
• 1:28:42
  than that. Jesus.
• 1:28:47
  Yeah, I mean it's. You know, we'll see.
• 1:28:52
  I don't want to rush to judgment, but it don't look
• 1:28:54
  good. It don't look good at all.
• 1:28:59
  I mean that. I mean that.
• 1:29:02
  Listen, that would suck. I mean, at Twitter, at or X has
• 1:29:06
  what, you know, whatever you want to call.
• 1:29:09
  It has been like my online home, you know, since like 2011.
• 1:29:16
  You know, maybe. Now I like I do.
• 1:29:19
  I do like A blog that I use for long term, but like, shit.
• 1:29:22
  Maybe if if Twitter does go, you know, down the apple, I'll just
• 1:29:27
  start like posting to my sub stack.
• 1:29:30
  Or, you know, something you know all the time.
• 1:29:34
  It's certainly not going in a direction that I thought it
• 1:29:38
  would. Is it better than it was before
• 1:29:41
  he bought it right now? Yeah.
• 1:29:43
  But I think these new rules seem to look a lot like it used to be
• 1:29:47
  and I think it's a matter of meet the new boss same as the
• 1:29:50
  old boss. And so I I don't think, I don't
• 1:29:55
  think Twitter is going to be like unusable for Someone Like
• 1:29:59
  You or me. But that's not actually what I'm
• 1:30:01
  all that concerned about a little bit for me because, you
• 1:30:04
  know, I I pick fights sometimes, but I don't, I don't say
• 1:30:09
  anything that has ever getting me in trouble before.
• 1:30:11
  Yeah, you. Now I'm getting in trouble for
• 1:30:14
  not doing anything, and now I'm going to get in trouble for
• 1:30:18
  probably even like, Dumber shit. It's just dumb.
• 1:30:22
  It's just stupid. I I mean the the only time I've
• 1:30:25
  reported people on, because I have flagged people on Twitter
• 1:30:31
  before, but it's been when they've literally made like
• 1:30:36
  death threats, you know, to actually harm people like and
• 1:30:42
  ironically. Which is what?
• 1:30:44
  Which is what Owens people did during the bear apocalypse.
• 1:30:50
  So I just don't think I if if you were to ask me, blocking
• 1:30:55
  shouldn't be the one thing that goes flagging should they should
• 1:30:59
  use their automated moderation system and nothing more.
• 1:31:03
  Fair. Fair enough.
• 1:31:05
  But what? Fair enough What?
• 1:31:07
  I'm what I'm saying there was like, yeah, for everyone of you
• 1:31:11
  using the system properly, though, there's a lot more
• 1:31:14
  people that are just using it to shut up, people they don't like.
• 1:31:17
  Yeah, I yeah, I yeah, I know that and that.
• 1:31:20
  That's what I'm saying. Like, it's a very rare thing.
• 1:31:24
  So yeah, So I I would say let them let people block entirely.
• 1:31:30
  That's fine. But letting people flag to or,
• 1:31:34
  OK, let people flag, OK, so that you can draw attention to this
• 1:31:38
  thing, Okay. But you can't just ban my
• 1:31:41
  account without review. Are you fucking kidding me?
• 1:31:47
  Locked me out for a week because you don't have the time to
• 1:31:50
  fucking look at it. What if, Okay, What if that did
• 1:31:53
  cost me money, right? Does Twitter going to fucking
• 1:31:56
  compensate me? No.
• 1:31:58
  Like if you use Twitter to promote your fucking business,
• 1:32:01
  right? And they're like, well, you're
• 1:32:02
  not getting revenue share from us, so we didn't cost you any
• 1:32:05
  money. Fuck that.
• 1:32:06
  You cost me a week's worth of posting promo for this show.
• 1:32:10
  OK. Like.
• 1:32:11
  Yeah sure, point point people. People can say, hey look at this
• 1:32:16
  post, maybe you should look at this post.
• 1:32:18
  I can get that. But an automated like ban off of
• 1:32:22
  a report is is giving people the ability to just censor people
• 1:32:27
  they don't like. It's insane.
• 1:32:30
  I've never seen anything as bad as as where Twitter is with that
• 1:32:34
  right now. No other website I've ever used,
• 1:32:36
  no other social media, me, any any platform has ever been as
• 1:32:42
  easy to just one guy flags you. You're locked out for a week.
• 1:32:46
  Clearly. Clearly you've never used
• 1:32:48
  discord along term Max. I did.
• 1:32:52
  But we had like, like our gilded.
• 1:32:55
  We had like our own insulated discord and it was the same 10
• 1:32:59
  guys for years. Yeah.
• 1:33:02
  So there wasn't anybody reporting?
• 1:33:03
  Because if you were a report person in my group, you wouldn't
• 1:33:07
  have lasted very long, right? Well, well, well, that.
• 1:33:10
  Well, that's that's the other thing too, is if you do start
• 1:33:13
  Discord, don't open up, don't open it up to too many people.
• 1:33:17
  Because what What happened with me on on Discord And like
• 1:33:22
  longterm listeners know the story, but like I used to be.
• 1:33:29
  I used to be a fan of Gavin, of Gavin McGinnis, and like back in
• 1:33:35
  2016, early 2017. And there was a there was a
• 1:33:41
  there was a Reddit and and a Discord.
• 1:33:44
  And the Reddit initially started as like 20 of us who were
• 1:33:48
  tightly knit. And you know, that was it.
• 1:33:53
  It was just twenty of us right then, as Gavin's podcast grew.
• 1:33:59
  Like we got pressure to let more people in and eventually got to
• 1:34:03
  the point where like where where there were like 100 where there
• 1:34:08
  like where there were like 2. No.
• 1:34:12
  At one point it got so ridiculous that there were like
• 1:34:15
  1000 people in there. And I and I told the original
• 1:34:20
  crew, I'm like. I'm like, I bet you anything
• 1:34:24
  they're either Antifa or fed people in here and they're gonna
• 1:34:27
  get this server banned. And lo and behold, that's what
• 1:34:31
  hat or just agents of chaos in general that like to do that
• 1:34:36
  kind of shit to fuck with people.
• 1:34:37
  Which is exactly like the kind of thing like a lot of these
• 1:34:41
  people flagging our accounts down where it's just like, oh
• 1:34:44
  oh, you said thing I don't like. Well, I'm gonna shut you down,
• 1:34:46
  bitch. Well, well, Max, it wasn't even
• 1:34:49
  that bad. So I got.
• 1:34:52
  My entire first Discord account got shut down because because I
• 1:34:58
  just happened to be in a server where I guess one of these Edge
• 1:35:04
  Lords like posted and not posted like one of those Nazi like you
• 1:35:09
  know, Pepe meme memes or something.
• 1:35:12
  I got one better. I got added to a server.
• 1:35:16
  I never posted on it. I didn't look at it.
• 1:35:18
  I got made an admin somehow, and I got banned for being an admin
• 1:35:23
  on a server that was posting like gore and shit and I was
• 1:35:26
  like, wait, what? Okay.
• 1:35:29
  So I'm banned on Discord and I haven't bothered to go back.
• 1:35:35
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what happened with me
• 1:35:38
  too. It's like.
• 1:35:41
  And it was like. A lot can be done on Discord
• 1:35:46
  without your consent. That could get you in trouble
• 1:35:48
  for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:35:51
  That's what I'm saying. Like, it was weird, too.
• 1:35:54
  It was like, it was like, hey, but it was like, hey, we're
• 1:35:58
  going to penalize you for stuff that you didn't even post, but
• 1:36:01
  we're going to penalize you for stuff that other people posted
• 1:36:05
  that you didn't endorse, right? Meanwhile, meanwhile, it's well
• 1:36:09
  known that Discord is a haven for pedophiles who extort
• 1:36:15
  children into sending them nude pictures.
• 1:36:17
  Like this is a well known thing. They meet them in video games,
• 1:36:20
  they get them on a Discord, and they have them do this.
• 1:36:23
  Discord doesn't seem to give one single fuck about that problem,
• 1:36:26
  but oh, you posted an edgy me and you're.
• 1:36:29
  Banned forever. Oh oh you you posted cooking
• 1:36:34
  videos in a discord that you've been in for?
• 1:36:38
  Two years and then, oh, all of the sudden this random host and
• 1:36:42
  Nazi meme and even and even though and even that the admins
• 1:36:46
  cleaned out, you're still going to get banned because that even
• 1:36:51
  though that even though that meme was deleted, it should have
• 1:36:54
  never been in there in the 1st place.
• 1:36:56
  So they all error on the side of perma banning and that's my big
• 1:37:01
  problem. See if if if Elon was actually
• 1:37:04
  not lying about, I don't want to do perma bans anymore cuz he's
• 1:37:07
  lying about that. By the way, cuz Dick just got
• 1:37:10
  perma banned on his main. So don't tell me you don't perma
• 1:37:14
  ban Elon, I know you do. I've seen you do it to a couple
• 1:37:16
  people, or at least while you've been.
• 1:37:18
  In charge, Yeah I've yeah I've likewise.
• 1:37:22
  I I I'd be fine with it if it was like okay.
• 1:37:26
  Banned for a week. Banned for even a month.
• 1:37:28
  Right. But the permanent?
• 1:37:31
  One of the one of the guys who I mentioned that you know
• 1:37:36
  Wolverine. You know as much as you and I
• 1:37:38
  have kind of been you know he he is a good guy and he and I are
• 1:37:43
  he and I are in a we're in kind of like one of the we're in like
• 1:37:48
  a comic book round table discussion podcast.
• 1:37:51
  One of the guys in our group, Static 2002, he he does like
• 1:37:58
  really good like video, like intro graphics.
• 1:38:02
  He got Perma band for what He he got Perma band off Twitter kind
• 1:38:11
  of like kind of like I did with YouTube where they didn't tell
• 1:38:14
  him what he got permanent band for.
• 1:38:16
  They just told him terms of service.
• 1:38:20
  You know, violations without without actually telling them
• 1:38:23
  what those violations were. I didn't even get that with
• 1:38:26
  Facebook. My Facebook got flat just
• 1:38:29
  deleted and I didn't get an e-mail.
• 1:38:31
  I just, I tried to log into it one day.
• 1:38:33
  This was years ago and it was like, this account does not
• 1:38:37
  exist. And I was like, I know that it
• 1:38:39
  exists because I used it yesterday.
• 1:38:42
  And yeah, they they not only deleted my account, but because
• 1:38:46
  your account is tied to everything you're tagged to,
• 1:38:50
  they removed all pictures that had me tagged in them, like my
• 1:38:53
  wife's pictures and stuff. They did not remove my tag, mind
• 1:38:57
  you. They took down the pictures of
• 1:38:58
  me. They they removed her
• 1:39:01
  relationship status from being married to being single, right.
• 1:39:08
  Because her husband doesn't exist, so she can't be married,
• 1:39:11
  right? I got unpersoned by Facebook for
• 1:39:14
  going to the Straight Pride Parade in Boston.
• 1:39:17
  Oh, because it was right after. See, what happened is a bunch of
• 1:39:20
  Antifa who were there tried to ban my Twitter because that was
• 1:39:24
  my primary social media and I don't break the rules on
• 1:39:28
  Twitter. So it didn't work.
• 1:39:30
  So they were like, Oh well, let's go get his Facebook.
• 1:39:32
  And they did, you know, more power to him.
• 1:39:36
  Who uses Facebook anymore? The old people.
• 1:39:39
  It's not like I was like, Oh no, please, not the Facebook.
• 1:39:44
  Just really, it was funny because they deleted me and
• 1:39:48
  there was no appeal process. There wasn't even a e-mail like,
• 1:39:52
  hey, you violated our terms. It was just like your account's
• 1:39:54
  gone, motherfucker. Yeah, what am I supposed?
• 1:39:59
  To do about that, be mad. Whatever.
• 1:40:03
  You take my Twitter, I'm not going to be.
• 1:40:05
  I'm going to be like aggravated, but not that mad.
• 1:40:09
  I'm not going to start a new one, same as Facebook.
• 1:40:11
  I don't do that. I don't go where I'm not fucking
• 1:40:14
  welcome anymore. I'll be I'll be mad for like 2
• 1:40:22
  days only because only because I've had the accountant since
• 1:40:26
  2011. But you know, like Protip 2,
• 1:40:31
  like I do have people's actual, like the people I talk to on a
• 1:40:35
  regular basis, like I actually have.
• 1:40:38
  You know in some cases like their actual phone numbers,
• 1:40:41
  right? Some some method of contact,
• 1:40:44
  Yeah. Yeah, like, I don't.
• 1:40:47
  I don't rely on Twitter to communicate with people just
• 1:40:50
  because I know that, you know, shit could go South.
• 1:40:54
  Yeah, well, there's people I talked to just on Twitter, like
• 1:40:57
  I mentioned Zannyberry's like I, you know, talked to him.
• 1:41:02
  I was a Dick and and Denny and that's why I was getting flagged
• 1:41:05
  was so weird because we don't really fuck with anybody.
• 1:41:07
  Me. Me taking Denny.
• 1:41:09
  Yeah, there's not very many people that are like, oh, those
• 1:41:12
  guys, right? Denny especially, he just makes
• 1:41:18
  art. You know, yeah, he he really
• 1:41:21
  doesn't get into it with people. He's kind of upset at the
• 1:41:25
  moment, but you know, that's rightly so.
• 1:41:30
  Like, he just makes memes, basically.
• 1:41:32
  Same with Dick and me. I don't even really make memes.
• 1:41:36
  I just talk shit. But but not at the people that
• 1:41:39
  were flagging us. Which is the fucking weird part,
• 1:41:41
  right? Right.
• 1:41:44
  I don't know. I don't know everybody.
• 1:41:46
  Like, bro, if you flag on any website, if you're a flagger,
• 1:41:50
  like what is the thing I can say that's not going to get me
• 1:41:55
  banned right now, Sam, Because I was going to say one thing you
• 1:42:00
  know, that they should do, you know, to themselves.
• 1:42:03
  But I probably can't say that so.
• 1:42:06
  In in Minecraft you mean? Just log off.
• 1:42:10
  How about that? Is that OK?
• 1:42:11
  Can I say log off? Yeah, I know how angry Max is.
• 1:42:15
  Like some guy said that we should have the gold standard
• 1:42:17
  the other day. I got equally mad.
• 1:42:20
  Based that is no. That is equivalent to getting
• 1:42:25
  false flagged, I think, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:42:28
  No, it definitely feels that way.
• 1:42:31
  To me. Well, well.
• 1:42:33
  Well, no it's not. Hold on, because I'll take the
• 1:42:36
  the lesson that I learned from Mr. Vickers the other day.
• 1:42:39
  It doesn't matter to me. So if it matters to you, your
• 1:42:45
  child. OK, well.
• 1:42:49
  Child. Because that's what he said.
• 1:42:51
  Well, to OKOKO. K So to be to be fair, because I
• 1:42:57
  did have this conversation. With a lot of women are
• 1:43:00
  pedophiles than shit. True.
• 1:43:04
  Okay Nick Fuentes. I didn't realize that you that
• 1:43:07
  you took over for Shmuly bring Shmuly back.
• 1:43:11
  I'm. I don't know what he's saying.
• 1:43:13
  He's saying if he's a child, the women that slept, Never mind,
• 1:43:16
  never mind if he's a child. A lot of women had slept with
• 1:43:22
  him or pedophiles was the joke. Yes, yeah.
• 1:43:25
  So. No, I get it.
• 1:43:31
  It's no sweat off his sack. I I I don't fucking care.
• 1:43:35
  I don't think me caring about something that he doesn't care
• 1:43:37
  about makes me a child, which is, I mean, this is from a DM he
• 1:43:41
  got with me yesterday. I could show you.
• 1:43:43
  That's what he said. He said it on his show.
• 1:43:45
  I'm not putting words in his mouth.
• 1:43:46
  He says that it because he doesn't care.
• 1:43:48
  It makes you a child. If you do care, that's what he.
• 1:43:51
  Said well, OK What? Why?
• 1:43:54
  Why you told? What he told to me because I, I
• 1:43:57
  I asked him, I asked him few questions.
• 1:44:02
  If you're just, if you're just making accounts to shitpost and
• 1:44:07
  and harass him in his business like council like the Council of
• 1:44:12
  Evil did, then yeah, he he and I and I could give a fuck less if
• 1:44:20
  those accounts get banned. But if you're someone like me,
• 1:44:24
  who actually. Makes content worth you know
• 1:44:29
  well then. Well then why me?
• 1:44:31
  I don't make accounts. I've had the same account since
• 1:44:34
  I've longer than Mr. Vickers and I don't fuck with anybody like
• 1:44:40
  that. I don't.
• 1:44:40
  I've always been nice to him and his family.
• 1:44:43
  Like. Exactly.
• 1:44:46
  Well, exactly though that that's, that's what I'm saying
• 1:44:50
  is like I get. I get where I get where he's.
• 1:44:55
  Let me say this, I get where he's coming from as far as like
• 1:44:58
  the the people who have been harassing them, but I think his.
• 1:45:03
  I think he's paranoid and I think he thinks everybody's out
• 1:45:06
  to get him. Yeah.
• 1:45:08
  I wasn't. And you know who you could ask?
• 1:45:12
  You know, there's, I won't even go there, but there's people you
• 1:45:14
  could ask that would verify that, that are a little bit
• 1:45:17
  close to him. You know what I'm saying, Sam?
• 1:45:19
  Yeah, No, I mean, I. Well, and I mean, I I think, I
• 1:45:24
  think that's the other thing too.
• 1:45:25
  I don't. What it was, Sam, what it was is
• 1:45:27
  why it was me, Dick and Denny is because all three of us went to
• 1:45:30
  him like men and said, hey yo, your lawsuit like it seems a
• 1:45:35
  little sketch and we didn't like his explanation.
• 1:45:40
  His explanation didn't win us over and we said so and then all
• 1:45:44
  got flagged like immediately at the same time.
• 1:45:48
  And then his buddy Rush. Or whatever.
• 1:45:50
  Rush fucking deletes his account.
• 1:45:52
  I'm not. We're not stupid.
• 1:45:54
  We know who did it like, and and it Yeah, that's the way.
• 1:45:58
  We're not. We're not like, oh, we're going
• 1:46:00
  to get him or anything like that.
• 1:46:02
  It's just like, but I'm going to say it.
• 1:46:04
  Yeah, you flag me down, motherfucker, Your people flag
• 1:46:06
  me down, and then you say you don't care.
• 1:46:08
  All right, well, I'm not going to care about your stupid
• 1:46:11
  lawsuit. I'm not going to care about all
• 1:46:12
  the people flagging you. I'm not going to care about
• 1:46:14
  harassment that you get any of that fucking shit.
• 1:46:16
  Why should I? You have people trying to
• 1:46:19
  silence me on Twitter. That's all I'm saying.
• 1:46:22
  I if, if, if, if me caring about my Twitter account is childish,
• 1:46:27
  then him caring about his low suit is also childish because I
• 1:46:31
  don't care about it, right? And so if I don't care about it,
• 1:46:34
  then it must be childish. That's the logic.
• 1:46:37
  Yeah, I mean. So he could.
• 1:46:41
  He could have it. He could.
• 1:46:42
  He could do whatever. I'm not fucking.
• 1:46:45
  I'm just pointing out that if your boys are going to flag me,
• 1:46:47
  it's not one, I wasn't. I wasn't your enemy.
• 1:46:51
  And two, like we're going to point out that you're a flaggot.
• 1:46:55
  I don't even think. I don't even think it was him
• 1:46:58
  though that flagged you though, Max.
• 1:46:59
  No, no. But he doesn't.
• 1:47:01
  He doesn't care that it was one of his boys, he said.
• 1:47:03
  So he said it's fine if it was one of his boys.
• 1:47:06
  I can get you the clip. I can get you the clip.
• 1:47:09
  I don't think it well, I don't think it was one of the boys
• 1:47:12
  either, though again, I think. I think it was counsel.
• 1:47:15
  Evil retards. I think it was Sam.
• 1:47:19
  That's it. It was Sam the whole fucking
• 1:47:21
  time. Look, man, you don't have to
• 1:47:23
  think I I you can believe whatever you want.
• 1:47:25
  His boy Rouge flagged me, Dick and Denny 100 percent, 100%.
• 1:47:30
  There's no fucking question in any of our minds who did it.
• 1:47:34
  Yeah, I I. Think it was me?
• 1:47:37
  That wouldn't surprise me. That would be very funny.
• 1:47:43
  No, I Yeah. No, I mean listen.
• 1:47:47
  I don't think Mr. Hold on I want to be.
• 1:47:49
  I want to be clear. I don't think Minister Figures
• 1:47:50
  told him to do it. I think he's just a drunk.
• 1:47:53
  Yeah, Well, OK, so people. That people.
• 1:47:56
  Ask me what I thought, what I think of the whole, you know,
• 1:48:01
  low, low suits. And so since we're talking on
• 1:48:04
  it, I might as well get into it. I I agree that it's.
• 1:48:09
  With an accident, stupid. I understand where I do
• 1:48:14
  understand possibly where's where Vickers is coming from as
• 1:48:19
  far as like wanting to get the people who tried to swat his
• 1:48:24
  family. And if that were if that were
• 1:48:28
  the end of it, that would be 1. Day if if if it was to names and
• 1:48:32
  it's specified okay anonymous doe one.
• 1:48:37
  Was involved with the swatting. Anonymous number?
• 1:48:39
  No, #2 was involved with swatting.
• 1:48:42
  I think that people would be a lot less, you know, ready to
• 1:48:46
  fucking crucify the guy instead of 50 guys.
• 1:48:50
  I don't know who they are. I'm not going to name any of
• 1:48:52
  them and I'm not going to tell you what they did, but they
• 1:48:55
  might maybe have conspired with Ethan Ralph to make me mentally
• 1:48:59
  retarded and he doesn't understand why people just laugh
• 1:49:03
  at this thing on its face, right?
• 1:49:06
  Like, that's what it says. You could say, well, I need to
• 1:49:10
  prove damages, so I needed to say that I was damaged by the
• 1:49:13
  blah, blah, blah, blah. But yeah, at the end of the day,
• 1:49:15
  you said that the Internet made you disabled for making fun of
• 1:49:18
  you, and so you need to name these people in a lawsuit.
• 1:49:24
  Yeah. I told him, I told him
• 1:49:27
  yesterday. In a DM, no one is going to hear
• 1:49:30
  you out. Especially I was the person who
• 1:49:33
  would have listened to your explanation.
• 1:49:36
  But before you gave, you started to give your explanation.
• 1:49:38
  You said that you didn't give a fuck, that we got banned.
• 1:49:41
  So I don't give a fuck about your explanation.
• 1:49:44
  Simple. I would have heard you out, but
• 1:49:47
  you you don't. You don't have any care for my
• 1:49:51
  set of problems, so why should I care for yours?
• 1:49:54
  And and he wanted me, he wanted me to explain to him why we find
• 1:49:58
  it funny. And I couldn't do that.
• 1:50:02
  Because if he doesn't get it, then he's never going to get it.
• 1:50:07
  You know what I'm saying? You even laughed when I said it,
• 1:50:10
  right? That's why you don't have to
• 1:50:12
  explain why it's silly. You don't have to explain why
• 1:50:15
  people find it ridiculous. It just is ridiculous.
• 1:50:20
  But I was willing to hear him out.
• 1:50:23
  But not if not. Yeah, not if.
• 1:50:24
  You know, whatever. Whatever, It's like fuck you.
• 1:50:29
  You go sue the Internet, you see, you see how that works.
• 1:50:31
  First of all, I think the judge is going to throw it out, right?
• 1:50:36
  I've never seen a suit like this, he says.
• 1:50:38
  It's a common thing and it's boilerplate.
• 1:50:40
  Yes, in cases where you have specific names and events but
• 1:50:44
  not the person's actual identity.
• 1:50:46
  For example, you know, dog lover, 5O2 said.
• 1:50:54
  Blah blah blah blah blah, which is a violation of blah blah blah
• 1:50:58
  statute, right? And so I'm naming him as a John
• 1:51:01
  Doe because I don't know who he is, but this is who he is
• 1:51:05
  online. And this is what he said, right?
• 1:51:08
  That I would understand. But to write a blank check
• 1:51:11
  because I might have to put 50 motherfuckers in here, yeah, it
• 1:51:15
  looks stupid. It makes you look ridiculous.
• 1:51:18
  And right. If.
• 1:51:19
  If me saying that makes your friends think that I need to be
• 1:51:22
  silenced, then maybe you need better friends straight up.
• 1:51:30
  It's it is it is. It is a bit weird that he was
• 1:51:34
  willing to listen to you because I I basically told him the same
• 1:51:37
  thing and he was, he seemed to get it.
• 1:51:42
  Well, I specified the only thing I care about is fucking leave
• 1:51:45
  Sam alone. That's what I told him.
• 1:51:48
  You can ask him. That's the only thing I said.
• 1:51:51
  The only thing I ask is that you don't go at Sam because he, you
• 1:51:55
  know you're going to go at me. I'm.
• 1:51:57
  I'm fine. But he ain't in shit.
• 1:52:00
  Yeah, well, no. Well no, he he wouldn't want to
• 1:52:02
  go after me either because like you know I'm I'm the one who
• 1:52:06
  like did did an interview with him that like you know I think
• 1:52:11
  made his initial. I've always helped out.
• 1:52:16
  I've always been positive. I've been on his show, you know
• 1:52:19
  what I'm saying? I know.
• 1:52:21
  That's why I had to say to go at Sam, because it going at me
• 1:52:24
  means maybe he would. I don't fucking know.
• 1:52:27
  It's, it's it. Well, but that that's the whole
• 1:52:30
  thing, though, too, is like, and I'm not talking like, I'm not
• 1:52:34
  talking so much about him specifically, but it's like the
• 1:52:37
  whole thing thing with like people getting upset that I
• 1:52:41
  won't, you know? With like Wolverine saying
• 1:52:44
  control control your house or what or whatnot or or that other
• 1:52:50
  guy saying or when merch was like get Apex under get you know
• 1:52:54
  apex. That's my other favorite thing
• 1:52:56
  is like is when merch was like flipping out like get apex.
• 1:53:01
  Like Apex, Gamma and Apex, Gamma and Max are not dogs.
• 1:53:07
  So, and we're very similar. It's almost like you pick a
• 1:53:10
  specific kind of cohost. It's almost like it's almost
• 1:53:14
  like Sam might know what he's doing.
• 1:53:18
  Shocker. I I I do and and everybody just.
• 1:53:22
  Jumps back and Max is the bad guy and Sam's like, all shucks.
• 1:53:26
  No, Sam likes a little bit of fucking back and forth.
• 1:53:29
  That's why he'll get Mount Wealthy cohost.
• 1:53:32
  I well, I I also like, like when I when I go off on, when I go
• 1:53:37
  off on someone like, you know, like no one expects it too.
• 1:53:41
  That's my favorite. That's that.
• 1:53:44
  That's why. What?
• 1:53:45
  That's why. When Mersh.
• 1:53:46
  That's why. When?
• 1:53:48
  That's why. When I pointed out that Mersh
• 1:53:50
  couldn't understand an obvious prank, he like flipped out on me
• 1:53:53
  and was like and was like you got no legs or you know, you're
• 1:53:58
  crippled. Or like it actually does warm my
• 1:54:02
  heart a bit to know that. Like that.
• 1:54:05
  Like as far as his head, as far as his headspace goes.
• 1:54:09
  It goes Jesse. Jim and then me like I've.
• 1:54:17
  I don't know. I think I've been passed by
• 1:54:18
  Porcelain at this point, but you're still like right there.
• 1:54:22
  OK, well, well, yeah, I'm but. Mostly, he's mostly only scared.
• 1:54:26
  Porcelain is going to make a dock on him again.
• 1:54:29
  Well. A part three would probably be
• 1:54:33
  warranted at this point, even if it is like what?
• 1:54:36
  Like 10 hours of merch documentary.
• 1:54:41
  I mean, I mean the. I mean the funny the, the
• 1:54:44
  funniest thing now is like the funniest thing now is like, I
• 1:54:48
  have, I have like, I have like normal people like like even
• 1:54:55
  even more theist was like was like, wow, that guy like smashes
• 1:55:00
  like cat litter box stuff, huh. And it's like.
• 1:55:05
  Like like even the completely normal people are like not ends
• 1:55:08
  of the Internet drama at all. Are like, that's weird.
• 1:55:12
  So. Well, that's what I'm saying.
• 1:55:14
  A lot of these fucking people in the sector or just locales in
• 1:55:18
  general don't realize how ridiculous what they're saying
• 1:55:21
  or doing looks to like normal non Internet people, let alone
• 1:55:26
  the Internet people who are like wow, what you're doing is
• 1:55:28
  fucking stupid. Normal people are like Jesus.
• 1:55:33
  They have like a next level response to some of this stuff,
• 1:55:36
  right? Because they've never seen
• 1:55:37
  anything like because they don't look at retards on the Internet
• 1:55:40
  every day, you know? I I was also looking to give
• 1:55:43
  like verse the benefit of the doubt because like you know just
• 1:55:46
  was making fun of for having you know cats in the 1st place right
• 1:55:50
  as before to your man and I'm like OK I'm going to give you
• 1:55:54
  know merge the benefit of the doubt everyone needs you know
• 1:55:57
  companions but but then to basically like you know, I mean.
• 1:56:02
  But yeah, but they're not his companions, right?
• 1:56:05
  It's. Cash cow on his second channel
• 1:56:08
  or whatever, Jeez. Yeah, that.
• 1:56:14
  That's the whole thing, right? Well, that that's the.
• 1:56:17
  So. That's definitely, it's
• 1:56:19
  definitely hilarious. Look, I was a little peeved, but
• 1:56:25
  I got, you know, reported I was a little more mad about Denny
• 1:56:29
  and Dick, to be honest with you. And like, I've talked to a bunch
• 1:56:33
  of people and I was like, yeah, I might say something about it
• 1:56:36
  on the show and if I do, I'm going to name it was it was
• 1:56:39
  Rush, Rush, Pabst that flagged us.
• 1:56:42
  Yeah. I have.
• 1:56:54
  Well, and that's also and. I have evidence that can back
• 1:56:45
  that up. Besides that he just deleted his
• 1:56:47
  account. But but the point was, I'm not
• 1:56:49
  going to just not fucking say it because like, it's.
• 1:56:55
  Vickers by saying he didn't give a fuck if one of his guys did
• 1:56:59
  it, which is what he said. Put his stamp on that.
• 1:57:01
  That's why I mentioned him. That's why I named it.
• 1:57:04
  He he thinks it's fine. Okay, you are of that mindset
• 1:57:08
  that people flagging people is fine and that you should just
• 1:57:11
  create another Twitter account and all this.
• 1:57:14
  That's fine. You can believe that all you
• 1:57:15
  want. All I'm going to do is point out
• 1:57:17
  what I know to be true. I'm not.
• 1:57:22
  I'm not trying to pick a fucking war with the vicars because I
• 1:57:26
  like people over then their little camp.
• 1:57:29
  I'm not trying to start any shit, but the guy the flag me
• 1:57:32
  sure was. Yeah, well, that's all.
• 1:57:35
  That's also why I don't, you know, contrary to what people
• 1:57:40
  think, I'm not. I'm not a capo for, you know,
• 1:57:43
  anyone. I don't.
• 1:57:44
  You know, I don't. I don't do stuff on people's
• 1:57:48
  behalf. I I'm a I'm a free age.
• 1:57:52
  Except for Schmoy. You know I I will.
• 1:57:57
  Very body bodies for for smuggling on occasion expected.
• 1:58:04
  Yeah, who wouldn't? Yeah, I mean, you know, I mean,
• 1:58:11
  you know, especially during hurricane season like that's
• 1:58:15
  that's about time. That's like.
• 1:58:17
  Body burying time, yeah. Yeah, that.
• 1:58:19
  That's that female dead hooker getting getting rid of time.
• 1:58:27
  Nah, I don't. I don't think it would be a
• 1:58:28
  hooker. Which muli.
• 1:58:29
  I think it would be a college professor.
• 1:58:32
  I just love. No it it would be.
• 1:58:37
  I just. Love that like.
• 1:58:40
  You know, y'all are having these like Internet battles and shit,
• 1:58:44
  and I'm just over here like reading Modern Monetary Theory.
• 1:58:49
  Well, and no one picks a fight with me.
• 1:58:52
  Look look. I enjoy it.
• 1:58:57
  The one time, the one time somebody comes on that I could
• 1:59:01
  like, actually argue with or whatever, I'm gone.
• 1:59:05
  I know. You you were like, can you say
• 1:59:07
  this? I was like, come on, you're
• 1:59:09
  like, I can't. No.
• 1:59:14
  No. We'll have, I'm sure we'll have
• 1:59:17
  him back back on at some point. Maybe.
• 1:59:21
  Maybe not, though. He he pretty mad.
• 1:59:26
  So we'll see. I I don't.
• 1:59:29
  And listen, that that's that's the other thing like you know,
• 1:59:33
  that's that that's that Boston you know thing too like I don't
• 1:59:39
  know I don't know what it is with the with the Boston Knights
• 1:59:43
  but but those guys got some flocking tempers over there in
• 1:59:47
  Boston. Well, it's because we're all
• 1:59:50
  fucking Irish, like. Literally, I don't have the, I
• 1:59:56
  don't have the. Oh, go ahead.
• 1:59:58
  Sorry. I'm I I'm Irish too.
• 2:00:01
  On my dad's side. Or at least.
• 2:00:03
  Yeah, but we're like Irish on all sides.
• 2:00:07
  That's The difference is the rest of the country is like half
• 2:00:10
  Irish up here. It's like most people are either
• 2:00:12
  full Irish, Irish in Italian or Irish in Portuguese, all of
• 2:00:17
  which. Yeah, I Irish in Italian.
• 2:00:20
  Irish and Italian although come to think of it that's why I
• 2:00:22
  Wi-Fi, that's why I Wi-Fi with my biological dad so much is
• 2:00:26
  because it's just Irish and he just, yeah he he brings that he
• 2:00:31
  also he also does some well I'll say this we'll bring up if if
• 2:00:39
  his if his 20. 7 year old girlfriend who I'm pretty sure
• 2:00:48
  is with Antifa is watching my stream and you know, she might
• 2:00:54
  be. You might want to, you know,
• 2:01:01
  I'll say you might want to. You might you might want to get
• 2:01:03
  help. You might want to you might want
• 2:01:07
  to stop texting me, or else I might have to make you a goon of
• 2:01:12
  mine. At the song.
• 2:01:15
  Oh no, Sam got the receipts. At some point.
• 2:01:20
  So yeah, no, yeah, I like, I like picking a fight.
• 2:01:25
  And look, I think we should have the dude back on.
• 2:01:27
  I think he should get the chance to fucking redeem himself if he
• 2:01:31
  wants it. But yeah, like, I'll talk to
• 2:01:37
  anybody. I'm just a Dick.
• 2:01:39
  Well, that, that. Well, that's the other thing too
• 2:01:41
  is like people like, Oh well Sam doesn't want ever want you know
• 2:01:45
  when he fights and it's like, no, I I I have no problem with
• 2:01:48
  like fights or debates. But I what I don't want is what
• 2:01:51
  IBS turn into, which is just, you know, doxing, swatting,
• 2:01:56
  harassing, screaming, doxing fucking slurs.
• 2:01:59
  Like that's not, yeah, I had no intent of any of that.
• 2:02:04
  I was. Just no, no.
• 2:02:05
  And I'm not guys being funny. That's how the Internet used to
• 2:02:08
  be, isn't it? Right.
• 2:02:10
  Yeah. That's why I want podcasts.
• 2:02:12
  I I want what I what I want is I just want I want to make
• 2:02:17
  something like I want to make a call and and then I want to
• 2:02:20
  Shuli just just come in like loves field and say some it just
• 2:02:25
  like blows his mind. So we have fun.
• 2:02:29
  I think we do a good show every week.
• 2:02:31
  And yeah. The, the.
• 2:02:33
  The. The number certainly prove it.
• 2:02:36
  We we got like 969 views on our last granted that part of that
• 2:02:44
  was because we were stream sniping.
• 2:02:46
  Because I was there. Well, just really, if you had
• 2:02:52
  been there, we would have gotten over 1K already I.
• 2:02:55
  Mean come. On probably.
• 2:02:59
  But. Oh, Speaking of the debate,
• 2:03:02
  though, So even though we didn't watch the debate live, I did go
• 2:03:07
  back and watch some of it. And Trump.
• 2:03:11
  Trump won the debate without even showing up.
• 2:03:14
  I'll just say that, well, cuz yeah, all they were talking
• 2:03:18
  about was, you know, Trump. It's like I he can't not exist
• 2:03:25
  in the room, you know? Of the contestants that were
• 2:03:27
  there, my take is basically that Vivek won.
• 2:03:32
  Nikki Haley had an incredible showing.
• 2:03:34
  Way better than I thought. So the real losers to Santas, he
• 2:03:38
  he really didn't have that many memorable moments.
• 2:03:41
  He didn't have everything centered around him.
• 2:03:44
  Vivek stole the show and had digs in to get attention on
• 2:03:48
  himself. Yeah, Vivek did exactly what he
• 2:03:52
  had to do. Nikki Haley, I'll agree with you
• 2:03:54
  came in and over performed, which is exactly what she had to
• 2:03:57
  do. Although it's she could over
• 2:04:00
  perform to the fucking moon and she's still irrelevant to the
• 2:04:02
  race. But it just does like you said,
• 2:04:05
  kind of further drive home the point that the Santas didn't do
• 2:04:07
  shit. He was on the back foot all
• 2:04:11
  night, on the defensive and and not really coherent.
• 2:04:16
  Which is, I mean, a huge problem and I imagine, a huge
• 2:04:19
  disappointment for his fans. Yeah, they don't seem to be
• 2:04:24
  disappointed though. They think he won massively.
• 2:04:27
  Sure. Yeah, I that.
• 2:04:29
  That's the weird thing about the Santas fans.
• 2:04:31
  It's like, you think they'd be concerned about the same shit we
• 2:04:34
  are. And in terms of like, if you
• 2:04:36
  want this guy to do well and they're like, no, no,
• 2:04:39
  everything's fine, OK. Well, well, it's funny bringing
• 2:04:45
  that up because because Bill Mitchell was Bill Mitchell.
• 2:04:50
  He used to be a Trump guy. Anyways, now, now gone over to
• 2:04:55
  the DeSantis train was was also pulling a merch and saying my,
• 2:05:01
  my views have, you know, decreased on Twitter and it's
• 2:05:05
  because I'm not a Trump guy. I'm a DeSantis guy.
• 2:05:08
  And it's like, no, it's because you're Bill Mitchell and like
• 2:05:12
  everyone knows you're no. But he's he's probably right
• 2:05:15
  because the people that were watching him, a certain portion
• 2:05:18
  of them would be like, I've had enough of this.
• 2:05:21
  I'm a Trump person. You know because he switched.
• 2:05:25
  Right. So he's he's expecting his whole
• 2:05:27
  audience is just going to fucking swallow that Dick and go
• 2:05:30
  along with him. And then I get, I guarantee you,
• 2:05:34
  whatever number he's missing. We're just like, Nah, there's a
• 2:05:38
  million like things I could be watching instead of Bill
• 2:05:41
  Mitchell. Yeah.
• 2:05:46
  Yeah I mean I I I will get with smoother like like objects aside
• 2:05:51
  like I think I think Vibec like from the get go was just like
• 2:05:55
  you know he he didn't do pretty well well on that stage it'll be
• 2:06:01
  it will be interesting to see though like what Trump does.
• 2:06:06
  Like, he definitely should show about, like, at least one of the
• 2:06:08
  debates. For sure.
• 2:06:10
  If he does, those two will go at each other directly and everyone
• 2:06:14
  else will basically have the oxygen sucked out of the room.
• 2:06:18
  Yeah, yeah, he will. He will go to one of these
• 2:06:21
  debates, but they're already gonna call some of these people
• 2:06:24
  by the next one, like ASA Hutchinson and shit.
• 2:06:28
  Yeah. Well, well, there were some
• 2:06:30
  people in my Mike Pence was one of them.
• 2:06:33
  I'm like, what are you been? What are you even doing here?
• 2:06:36
  So the the only thing I have, the only thing I like about my
• 2:06:41
  about Mike Pence being in the race is that the race band and
• 2:06:44
  memes have come back back the the Mike Pence race band memes
• 2:06:53
  from John Johnny W Joe. So it's great cuz those memes
• 2:07:01
  were big a couple years ago and now there's a whole new context
• 2:07:04
  to them. It's great.
• 2:07:06
  Yeah, no and no. And as and as a Johnny Quest
• 2:07:10
  fan, I was like, I was like, I always thought those people were
• 2:07:13
  like, holy crap, he actually does look look like race band
• 2:07:18
  banning. I always liked the conspiracy
• 2:07:21
  that he's a time traveler and he was sent back in time to like.
• 2:07:27
  Deal with Trump or whatever in a specific manner and that's why
• 2:07:31
  he's all of the races mixed together based.
• 2:07:36
  If you look at him, he's he's not any ethnic group.
• 2:07:39
  He's all of them. Mike Pence.
• 2:07:43
  Yeah, yeah. I always thought that was funny.
• 2:07:48
  Because it's just it's. Just that little detail there.
• 2:07:50
  It's like what we were saying earlier.
• 2:07:52
  We're like. Why does that make sense?
• 2:07:54
  Like you look at him and you're like, oh, this makes sense.
• 2:07:56
  He does look like that, yeah. Yeah, yeah, Sometimes you just
• 2:08:02
  know why it's funny. You know, I hate having when
• 2:08:07
  somebody asks why is this funny, it's like sometimes you can
• 2:08:11
  explain, right? And then some things, they're
• 2:08:13
  just funny. They just.
• 2:08:15
  Well, it's it's also. Kind of funny from, like the
• 2:08:18
  perspective, like, you know, politics aside, like.
• 2:08:23
  Mike Pence's personality compared to Trump, it's like
• 2:08:26
  pretty low key, right? Very low energy, yeah.
• 2:08:30
  Yeah, very low energy. So like so having selling
• 2:08:37
  Pence's, his repeats me was hilarious in the sense that like
• 2:08:42
  you have Trump that like is very high energy and you have.
• 2:08:46
  And you have like a pen like to me that that Jux position of
• 2:08:50
  personality, there's something funny.
• 2:08:52
  And he and Trump used to like dog on him too, right?
• 2:08:56
  Like Trump used to make jokes about that.
• 2:08:58
  Like, yeah, Mike, he doesn't have the most energy, you know,
• 2:09:01
  but he's here for us or whatever.
• 2:09:03
  Yeah, yeah. And then and then and then Pence
• 2:09:06
  just being the black guy would be like, you know, the
• 2:09:08
  president's, like the president's policy is good or,
• 2:09:13
  you know, somewhat like. I just love the Ron DeSantis.
• 2:09:18
  The Ron DeSantis crowd loves to throw the hate of the COVID
• 2:09:23
  response on Donald Trump, when I think they should look at the
• 2:09:27
  fact that Mike Pence was in charge of that.
• 2:09:30
  I think they should look at the people who are surrounding
• 2:09:32
  themselves and putting themselves behind Ron De Santis,
• 2:09:35
  and the fact that a lot of the people who were involved in the
• 2:09:38
  operation work speed and whatnot behind him.
• 2:09:41
  I don't think Operation Warp Speed was the worst thing ever,
• 2:09:43
  but I do think that that level of hypocrisy and ignorance that
• 2:09:48
  they display is shameful. He pushed, he pushed the vaccine
• 2:09:52
  as much as any governor, right? So for them to be like like
• 2:09:57
  their whole thing is being like I find most De Santis people I
• 2:10:00
  talk to anyway, their whole thing is anti vax.
• 2:10:03
  Well then he's not your guy. You know what I mean?
• 2:10:06
  Just like if if if that's all that matters to you, then maybe
• 2:10:09
  Trump isn't your guy either. Well, well and yeah, one if if
• 2:10:14
  one of the anti vax is just thing Florida isn't your state
• 2:10:17
  either that you should be a whole because a lot of people
• 2:10:22
  got vaccinated in this state, majority of the US population
• 2:10:26
  got it. You know what I mean?
• 2:10:28
  Like, and it's not even close. It's not even like, oh, 53% got
• 2:10:33
  it's like 89 percent or something like that.
• 2:10:36
  It's, yeah, I mean, personally, I got it very early on.
• 2:10:40
  I, you know, for being a Russian disinformation shell, I got
• 2:10:43
  their version, you know, free. I got the Spucknik one in the
• 2:10:47
  mail. Awesome.
• 2:10:48
  Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it worked really
• 2:10:51
  well. It got me drunk though.
• 2:10:52
  I don't know what that's about. Well, that's because they don't
• 2:10:55
  use water in Russia. They use vodka.
• 2:10:57
  Oh, OK, that makes sense. Nothing.
• 2:11:01
  There's there's no H2O in the entire Russian subcontinent.
• 2:11:05
  It's just vodka. Yeah, they sent me an e-mail and
• 2:11:07
  they're like, we can't risk our greatest shill.
• 2:11:12
  So that's why. That's why.
• 2:11:14
  That's why you're always buzzed all the time.
• 2:11:17
  You're not drinking water. You're just mean.
• 2:11:19
  You're just mainlining vodka then?
• 2:11:22
  Yeah, he's just got, he's just got a VAT of potatoes next to
• 2:11:28
  him fermenting, connected to like an IV.
• 2:11:36
  Well, I've, I've got a whole thing of.
• 2:11:38
  I've got a whole thing of whiskey.
• 2:11:40
  So Speaking of Speaking of Russia, hey Vlad, you're not
• 2:11:45
  doing so hot. The Chinese are just making maps
• 2:11:47
  with your shit on it. Oh, it's almost like you
• 2:11:49
  shouldn't have trusted them. It's, you know.
• 2:11:53
  What? What?
• 2:11:53
  Great strategic fam. It's it's almost like China's
• 2:11:58
  out for China. It's almost like if somebody
• 2:12:01
  would have said this months and months ago that that was going
• 2:12:04
  to happen when everybody was like, no, no, China and Russia
• 2:12:08
  are teaming up to get us. And we were like, that's not how
• 2:12:12
  China operates though, bro. And everybody's like, no, no,
• 2:12:15
  it's true. They're totally going to do it.
• 2:12:17
  And it's like, but that's but but China thinks that Vlad's
• 2:12:20
  stupid for the Ukraine thing too.
• 2:12:22
  They're actually on team. Everybody else.
• 2:12:25
  They're boycotting a lot of fucking Russian shit too.
• 2:12:28
  Yeah. Now they're speaking in their
• 2:12:30
  mind. OK, so US provides Ukraine and
• 2:12:32
  they send their sons to die. We give weapons to Russia and we
• 2:12:37
  send their their sons to die. Then we have leverage over them.
• 2:12:41
  And there's a lot of land in Siberia with a lot of resources.
• 2:12:45
  Yep. And you know, then everybody
• 2:12:48
  else is suffering the same fucking young person crisis that
• 2:12:52
  we are. China's not stupid, China's not
• 2:12:56
  playing fucking checkers here. They're playing actual world
• 2:13:01
  politics. But I mean.
• 2:13:03
  Like we need a chart of like people who thought they could
• 2:13:06
  make a deal with China and got ripped off because it's
• 2:13:11
  astonishing that. List of people, people, people,
• 2:13:16
  countries, organizations, non nonprofit organizations, NGO's
• 2:13:22
  like you name it. China's pulled the wool over a
• 2:13:25
  lot of people don't trust China. China is asshole.
• 2:13:31
  Right. Yeah, yeah.
• 2:13:34
  Yeah, well, I. That's the other thing, too.
• 2:13:37
  Like, I love how these people are talking out.
• 2:13:39
  Like how Russia is a big is like a big bad.
• 2:13:44
  But yet they ignore, like everything that China does,
• 2:13:49
  basically. Yeah, yeah, it's almost like
• 2:13:52
  Trump for a time was the only one pointing this out, which is
• 2:13:56
  almost like maybe why I would have been a big supporter.
• 2:13:59
  You know, I lost multiple jobs that literally they took my
• 2:14:05
  equipment and shipped it out on ass to China.
• 2:14:08
  And I actually had to train the Chinese lady how to use it
• 2:14:12
  before they fired me. So I was already like, fuck
• 2:14:16
  China. The real problem is that just
• 2:14:18
  China hate is not as fun. It's not it's not as sexy of a
• 2:14:23
  propaganda tool and and they're not going full bore like that's
• 2:14:29
  that's the difference. The Russia hate stuff sells and
• 2:14:32
  it's an easy narrative and like it doesn't bum you out with
• 2:14:36
  like. They're just genociding their
• 2:14:39
  own people. And here's the terrible trial.
• 2:14:41
  It's like they're. Fire Russia's Fire and missiles
• 2:14:44
  into buildings Russia's. You know, that's just exciting.
• 2:14:48
  There's tanks and shit, yeah. I I would say that hate.
• 2:14:54
  Hate on China is way more fun if you do it right.
• 2:14:58
  Oh, I agree. Cuz the way we do it, we have a
• 2:15:00
  blast making fun. Yeah, but yeah, but, but also we
• 2:15:04
  don't we, we take it pretty seriously, which seems like a
• 2:15:07
  lot of people don't. Yeah, well, when China's rolling
• 2:15:11
  tanks and shooting missiles, more people are prone to be
• 2:15:14
  like, yeah, I'm gonna pay attention.
• 2:15:16
  Yeah, When? When China's just trying to
• 2:15:17
  strangle our economy in the fucking crib.
• 2:15:20
  Nobody seems to care. Yeah.
• 2:15:22
  Yeah, go figure. Yeah.
• 2:15:26
  Hey, they can take my job. As long as I get cheap shit,
• 2:15:29
  I'll get a different job. Well, now you ran out of fucking
• 2:15:34
  jobs because you're in manufacturing.
• 2:15:37
  This was my life. I had to change course because
• 2:15:40
  of China. I was working at a a a big, like
• 2:15:45
  tech manufacturing. Like we made chips, you know
• 2:15:48
  what I mean? And like, all that shit went to
• 2:15:51
  China in about 2004, 2005, I want to say, including my job.
• 2:15:58
  And it was like, oh shit, what do I do now?
• 2:16:00
  I don't. I have like very specific set of
• 2:16:02
  skills. I'm kind of fucked.
• 2:16:04
  And nobody does that because they all move to China.
• 2:16:08
  Ask Elon about designing a product and building it in China
• 2:16:11
  for the Chinese market. Oh oh wow, you jumped through
• 2:16:16
  hoops so that your competitors could copy you.
• 2:16:19
  Oh Oh yeah, well, now you can sell your cars in China.
• 2:16:23
  Oh, actually, we banned Tesla's. Sure, we'll we'll recognize your
• 2:16:27
  copyright in trademarks. Well, no, They made the
• 2:16:31
  agreement basically not to, but the the assumption was that he
• 2:16:36
  would be able to sell his cars there too.
• 2:16:41
  And now they're banning them. You know, Blizzard, I know video
• 2:16:44
  games not the same as cars, right?
• 2:16:46
  But Blizzard has the same problem that last year
• 2:16:49
  unilaterally, the CCP banned World of Warcraft.
• 2:16:53
  And wouldn't you know it, $0.10 is coming out with a game that's
• 2:16:56
  exactly like World of Warcraft. Interesting, considering World
• 2:17:00
  of Warcraft's biggest market was China by a landslide.
• 2:17:03
  They were the only ones still playing it, You know what I
• 2:17:06
  mean? Now they can't play it so ooh,
• 2:17:09
  it's just so happens the CCP got you another Warcraft guys.
• 2:17:14
  And it totally and just their copyrights.
• 2:17:18
  Oh my God, who could have seen that come down?
• 2:17:21
  Yeah, yeah. Who could have seen that coming?
• 2:17:22
  It's almost like Blizzard gave up every bit of their integrity,
• 2:17:26
  every everything to suck China's Dick, started banning people for
• 2:17:30
  saying free Hong Kong and shit, and then China stabbed them in
• 2:17:33
  the. Or Steam.
• 2:17:39
  Hey, there's another one. Valve was operating Steam
• 2:17:43
  legally in China. And then then China realized
• 2:17:46
  that a lot of young people were organizing protests and shit on
• 2:17:50
  Steam forums. And they said, hey Valve, you
• 2:17:54
  got to make like a Chinese version of Steam and let us run
• 2:17:56
  it. And that's the only way.
• 2:17:58
  And we'll give you a portion of the fucking sales or whatever.
• 2:18:01
  And they were like, OK, fine. And then they were like,
• 2:18:05
  immediately they were like banning everything right there.
• 2:18:08
  No forums, like ban everything because it's a CCP.
• 2:18:13
  And then they're not giving a portion of the Steam sales to
• 2:18:16
  Valve. So again, stabbed in the back by
• 2:18:18
  China major corporate one of the biggest corporations on earth,
• 2:18:22
  Valve, right? Or Activision Blizzard for that
• 2:18:24
  matter. How about they they make exact
• 2:18:28
  duplicate knockoffs of fucking Xboxes and Playstations, right?
• 2:18:33
  You know, it's like you don't want to deal with China because
• 2:18:37
  they're going to stab you in the back, but if the fucking money
• 2:18:40
  of the large number of people you could potentially reach
• 2:18:43
  blinds, all these motherfuckers. Yep, Yep.
• 2:18:48
  Because the moment the CCP realizes that they can get that
• 2:18:52
  money instead of you, you're the fucking done.
• 2:18:55
  It's like, OK, we can't make a World of Warcraft game right
• 2:18:58
  now, but we're going to fucking pay $0.10 to go do that, and
• 2:19:02
  when it's about ready, we're going to fucking ban your ass.
• 2:19:05
  It's actually brilliant if you don't care about ethics and
• 2:19:10
  business. So, so the I mean the Chinese
• 2:19:15
  and. Forgive me, this is going to be
• 2:19:17
  a racist stereotype, but they really do live up to the racial
• 2:19:20
  stereotype of being caught men, basically.
• 2:19:23
  Well, it doesn't come from nowhere, is what I would say.
• 2:19:26
  I certainly I know you know. Chinese, I'll say, Chinese
• 2:19:29
  Americans who aren't like that. But the country, you know, the
• 2:19:33
  CCP itself very much lives up to that stereotype.
• 2:19:37
  They are not. Right, right.
• 2:19:38
  Yeah, not one big. No Chinese.
• 2:19:43
  I know lots of Chinese Americans who are actually based because
• 2:19:47
  they live through Maoism. They understand how it sucks.
• 2:19:53
  Yeah. You find out in a lot of people
• 2:19:54
  that fled communism and came here.
• 2:19:56
  It's weird, isn't it? Yeah, It's almost like the
• 2:20:00
  people that have actually lived under communism have a good idea
• 2:20:03
  of why it's not good. Well, it just didn't work in
• 2:20:08
  their country because you know, it wasn't applied property
• 2:20:13
  properly, but on paper it works. Yeah.
• 2:20:16
  Yeah, I love that. Like, Ann Rand is one of those
• 2:20:20
  people. You know, like, people forget
• 2:20:22
  that she literally fled the USSR.
• 2:20:24
  That's why she was so kind of over the top with some of her
• 2:20:28
  opinions. Yeah.
• 2:20:30
  What? Wilbertarians get mad at me when
• 2:20:33
  I mentioned that? Big Mad.
• 2:20:37
  Yeah, well. I don't know.
• 2:20:41
  I just look, the libertarians are like, ooh, free trade, free
• 2:20:45
  free trade, free trade. OK, so this is like a onesided
• 2:20:50
  deal that they're talking about. How long are we going to fuck
• 2:20:53
  ourselves? You know, like China don't
• 2:20:56
  believe in free trade, so we can't have free trade with them.
• 2:21:00
  It's impossible. They don't want that.
• 2:21:02
  They don't believe in that. So what we what we have is like
• 2:21:06
  this monstrosity. Where the the most corrupt big
• 2:21:11
  money people can play with China until China decides not to play
• 2:21:16
  anymore and everybody else, we can buy cheap Chinese crap.
• 2:21:21
  But all those manufacturing jobs that made the 80s and 90s so
• 2:21:25
  fucking good for money? They're all gone.
• 2:21:30
  And they're not coming back. At least not unless something
• 2:21:33
  changes. It's just like you you know.
• 2:21:36
  The solution would just be. I don't know.
• 2:21:39
  Eliminate business tax on all manufacturing and then provide
• 2:21:43
  subsidies of the most successful manufacturing companies that
• 2:21:48
  come out for like 10 years like you know.
• 2:21:51
  We go to tax the rich, though. Like, you know South Korea.
• 2:21:54
  Well, no, actually. Actually, you don't need to tax
• 2:21:58
  the rich because all you're doing by printing money and
• 2:22:02
  giving. Let me rephrase that.
• 2:22:05
  Giving. Money to people to start
• 2:22:09
  manufacturing ventures is creating new money.
• 2:22:14
  You're actually reducing the money supply with taxes.
• 2:22:19
  Right. And and jobs, like flat out just
• 2:22:22
  jobs. Yeah.
• 2:22:23
  It's, you know, Speaking of the tax, the rich thing.
• 2:22:27
  Massachusetts In the last election I obviously voted
• 2:22:32
  against the rich person tax, but it passed by a lot.
• 2:22:36
  And so I'm just waiting. Now they've implemented it as of
• 2:22:39
  tomorrow. No, not tomorrow.
• 2:22:41
  The next day, September 1st, September 1st, 4% tax on anybody
• 2:22:47
  who has more than $1,000,000 liquid in Massachusetts.
• 2:22:51
  Now they think that this is going to raise a lot of money.
• 2:22:54
  I impressive X to doubt on that because I already know a lot of
• 2:22:59
  people who are finding houses in Rhode Island and New Hampshire.
• 2:23:04
  I mean it's like. When it comes to wealthy people,
• 2:23:08
  it's like, I don't, I don't want to just like, tax them.
• 2:23:12
  I don't want them to pay a lot of taxes.
• 2:23:13
  I would like to incentivize them to put money into actual the
• 2:23:19
  real economy instead of finance. Right.
• 2:23:22
  So I mean I would, I would want to incentivize that.
• 2:23:25
  Through the tax code, you know, manufacturing and even even
• 2:23:29
  service industry like I I think a lot of people have abandoned
• 2:23:32
  like the service industry. As it should.
• 2:23:35
  It's bad. And you know, no, it's because
• 2:23:38
  it's all we have left. That's why it seems bad, because
• 2:23:42
  you know that we used to have better than that.
• 2:23:44
  We don't need to get rid of it. In fact, we need to kind of put
• 2:23:47
  some fucking elbow grease into that sector in a lot of cases,
• 2:23:51
  but we really need to push manufacturing, service jobs and.
• 2:23:58
  The problem is, we went all in on computer programming and you
• 2:24:01
  can do that anywhere remotely. And so India's just killing us
• 2:24:04
  on it. Yeah, well, I mean, it just
• 2:24:08
  comes back to like, you do need the tangible real economy.
• 2:24:11
  You can't have everybody being involved in fucking finance and
• 2:24:15
  that this somehow like, wins, I mean.
• 2:24:17
  It's finance and real estate, right?
• 2:24:19
  That's all they fucking do. And that money doesn't circulate
• 2:24:22
  into the to the larger economy, usually.
• 2:24:25
  Yeah. Yeah, it's it's a problem.
• 2:24:28
  It's a real it's a real problem. But, but the wealth, the 4%
• 2:24:32
  wealth tax ain't going to fucking solve it.
• 2:24:34
  It's just like I said, if you live here and you work here,
• 2:24:38
  especially where I'm at, OK, I can walk to Rhode Island.
• 2:24:42
  Do you really think that these guys that live here,
• 2:24:44
  specifically that played professional sports, let's say,
• 2:24:48
  are going to let that tax happen?
• 2:24:49
  No, they're buying houses in New Hampshire and fucking Rhode
• 2:24:53
  Island because they can just drive to work still.
• 2:24:56
  And not get that fucking tax. And it's still the same culture
• 2:25:00
  in the same neighborhood, basically, for fuck's sake.
• 2:25:03
  The reforms I would have was would be to basically abolish
• 2:25:06
  business taxes. Then you're going to simplify
• 2:25:08
  all the fucking codes. If you abolish business taxes,
• 2:25:11
  then the big corporations don't have an advantage because they
• 2:25:14
  can hire all of these accountants.
• 2:25:15
  You don't need to hire all of these accountants to run a
• 2:25:17
  fucking business, right? And then I would have a import
• 2:25:21
  tax on foreign goods. Yeah.
• 2:25:25
  Double on China. Yeah.
• 2:25:28
  I mean, and really, we could just start with the fucking
• 2:25:33
  tariffs on China. I agree.
• 2:25:35
  We we we could start any point. I'm I'm not saying that you're,
• 2:25:38
  you know, throughout the whole plan.
• 2:25:40
  I'm just saying like we could just do that and it would cause
• 2:25:44
  immense fucking growth immediately.
• 2:25:46
  It did when Trump was in office. But I I I tell you audience that
• 2:25:51
  a you know. The Gold standard.
• 2:25:55
  Fucking let's have no government debt.
• 2:25:59
  People are just as much of an impediment to my ideas as the
• 2:26:05
  left. Well, it's nice to.
• 2:26:09
  It's nice to, in your head, create or understand how an
• 2:26:15
  alternative, you know, system to what we have works like that's
• 2:26:20
  fun and all that. But when when your only option
• 2:26:24
  then is, well, we have to implement my hypothetical system
• 2:26:28
  instead of what's actually there, it becomes very difficult
• 2:26:31
  for me to take that seriously because we're not getting
• 2:26:34
  anywhere, right. Like when I say to when I say to
• 2:26:38
  libertarians, the best thing we could do about the welfare
• 2:26:41
  system is make a very concerted effort to go after fraud.
• 2:26:46
  They're like, well, that's not enough.
• 2:26:49
  And it's like well. That's probably the most you
• 2:26:52
  could hope to get out of this, actually, because if you propose
• 2:26:56
  to end welfare tomorrow, you're not going to get the votes to do
• 2:26:59
  that. I just want to say that like if
• 2:27:03
  somebody came along and was like, yeah, I want to make
• 2:27:06
  business taxes 2% and have a fucking import tax that's lower
• 2:27:13
  than I'd want. I wouldn't say that that's bad.
• 2:27:16
  I would. I would support that.
• 2:27:17
  Right. You'd be like, I think we need a
• 2:27:20
  little more, but, you know, let's stand.
• 2:27:22
  Somewhere, and this is shown by Trump.
• 2:27:24
  I mean, Trump implemented, just renegotiated trade deals.
• 2:27:29
  Trump just fucking didn't create a balanced budget, quote, UN
• 2:27:35
  quote, or whatever. Like Trump implemented the kind
• 2:27:37
  of stuff that I would want and it fucking worked really well.
• 2:27:42
  People forget. A lot of people in Trump's
• 2:27:46
  borders forget this. But one of the things that the
• 2:27:48
  Republicans got mad at Trump early on about was the fact
• 2:27:54
  that, like Trump did, Trump did not want to.
• 2:27:59
  Trump did not want to get Medicare and Medicaid.
• 2:28:02
  He wanted to reform it to get rid of the corruption.
• 2:28:06
  And there were a lot of like what I call economic neocons.
• 2:28:12
  But like, we just need, we need to get rid of Medicare and
• 2:28:15
  Medicaid completely because it's bad and you know.
• 2:28:20
  And, and and he didn't hear them out on that.
• 2:28:23
  And the reason he didn't hear them out on that is he said OK,
• 2:28:26
  OK, everybody seems to forget this.
• 2:28:29
  The first two years he had a Republican Congress and he said,
• 2:28:32
  OK, get rid of Obamacare and make something better.
• 2:28:36
  Let's go. I need a bill.
• 2:28:38
  I don't care what you do. We need a bill.
• 2:28:40
  We need a bill that gets rid of Obamacare.
• 2:28:42
  They didn't do that. So he unilaterally, through
• 2:28:45
  executive order, got rid of the mandate that the $2000 tax for
• 2:28:50
  not having insurance at all. And that was about all he could
• 2:28:54
  do. And he said, OK, you guys didn't
• 2:28:57
  want to fix it, This shit's going to collapse.
• 2:29:00
  And then he washed his hands of it.
• 2:29:01
  And he said we if you can't, if you can't reform Obamacare,
• 2:29:05
  we're not reforming Medicare and Medicaid.
• 2:29:07
  That's too risky. You guys couldn't even offer me
• 2:29:09
  a bill. Yeah the yeah that's that's
• 2:29:13
  exactly that's exactly what happened and and and people
• 2:29:17
  people forget that so. And then, of course, Joe Bryden
• 2:29:23
  Biden brought back the mandate. Yeah, which, Yeah, which?
• 2:29:29
  What's going to kill it the most overtime, but not not having the
• 2:29:35
  mandate is still going to, it's still going to be insolvent in
• 2:29:39
  about 10 years. I mean, I mean, it's all, it's
• 2:29:43
  already killed the insurance, the insurance industry.
• 2:29:49
  Yeah, they've had to completely reform into something different
• 2:29:54
  and it's not something who likes it.
• 2:29:56
  Is there anybody that likes the way?
• 2:29:58
  Because I'll tell you, I really, really liked pre Obamacare my
• 2:30:02
  healthcare that I had. And damn.
• 2:30:06
  I don't like this at all. All the things he said, you can
• 2:30:10
  keep your doctor, right? You can keep your doctor.
• 2:30:13
  That's not true. Who Who has the same doctor that
• 2:30:16
  they had before Medicare. But you know barring like a
• 2:30:18
  retirement or something, right? Sorry, Obamacare.
• 2:30:22
  Who has the same doctor since before that?
• 2:30:24
  Nobody. Literally nobody.
• 2:30:26
  You can't. You can't.
• 2:30:29
  You just can't. Even if you have the same
• 2:30:30
  insurance plan. They're like, Oh no, we have a
• 2:30:33
  deal with this hospital 10 towns over now.
• 2:30:35
  So you have to go there for your primary care.
• 2:30:37
  It's just. A garbage mess.
• 2:30:40
  Back in the day, I used to pay $100 for a Cadillac health
• 2:30:43
  insurance plan that covered literally everything $100 a week
• 2:30:48
  out of my paycheck. I pay a lot more than that and
• 2:30:51
  get a lot less coverage. Now $100 per week out of your
• 2:30:56
  paycheck, that's that's like that's like, wow, I can't.
• 2:31:04
  It covered literally everything, but I was.
• 2:31:07
  I was like 2223 years old, so but but even then, once I had my
• 2:31:13
  business right like 2011, 2010, I wasn't paying that much.
• 2:31:17
  I mean, I wasn't paying it out of my paycheck because business,
• 2:31:19
  but like I wasn't paying that much is what my point is.
• 2:31:23
  And I had way more coverage. Nobody likes this system,
• 2:31:27
  people. When I when I tell people that
• 2:31:30
  my pal wheelchair costs like $40,000, they're like, they're
• 2:31:36
  like teehee, that that's funny. That's a funny joke.
• 2:31:39
  And then I just look at them and they're like, oh, oh, you're
• 2:31:43
  serious. And I'm like, yeah, that and and
• 2:31:51
  like, I mean, part of that is because of the mechanics and
• 2:31:54
  whatnot, but a lot. But nobody thinks about it too,
• 2:31:57
  because most of the time it's either partly or mostly covered
• 2:32:00
  by insurance. So most people don't think that,
• 2:32:03
  but if you find yourself in an in a situation where you're for
• 2:32:06
  whatever reason, insurance doesn't cover it, you do have to
• 2:32:10
  pay the full price. And the full price is, you know,
• 2:32:14
  40 bills or whatever, right? Like it's it's insane you know
• 2:32:19
  Which thank which thankfully I didn't have to do for my pile
• 2:32:23
  wheelchair but this last time when I tried to get a manual
• 2:32:27
  chair. But we've we've talked about
• 2:32:28
  that I got I got denied by Medicaid because they had they
• 2:32:35
  had already paid for my power trim even though that had been
• 2:32:39
  five years earlier basically and according and and according to
• 2:32:47
  according to Medicaid I'm according to Medicaid you're
• 2:32:51
  eligible for new durable medical every two to three years unless
• 2:32:58
  you fall under these you know circumstances.
• 2:33:01
  And basically what it comes down to is I'm too healthy despite
• 2:33:06
  being crippled for new. Well, what was another thing?
• 2:33:10
  Obama said no death panels, right?
• 2:33:12
  What? What?
• 2:33:13
  What is that? But like, they're not deciding
• 2:33:15
  whether you live or die. But is that not the same thing
• 2:33:18
  as a death panel? They're deciding whether you can
• 2:33:21
  get the treatment. They have it.
• 2:33:23
  It exists. Are you entitled to it?
• 2:33:26
  Well, no, because you're too fucking healthy.
• 2:33:28
  Well, that's a death panel. That's a death panel.
• 2:33:31
  So when he said no death panels, he's fucking lying.
• 2:33:34
  Because if it was instead of a $40,000 wheelchair or whatever,
• 2:33:37
  if it was cancer treatment, which people do get denied for
• 2:33:40
  cancer treatment all the fucking time in this country, then
• 2:33:44
  you're going to fucking die. That's a death panel.
• 2:33:46
  Obama promised no death panels. And most people don't even
• 2:33:49
  understand what death panel means.
• 2:33:51
  It means a group of people, bureaucrats, unelected.
• 2:33:54
  Sitting somewhere deciding whether you can get the medical
• 2:33:58
  treatment that you need based on their bottom line, right?
• 2:34:04
  Yeah. That's a death panel, yeah.
• 2:34:07
  And in most cases, they don't even need to really consult
• 2:34:11
  with. They don't need to evaluate you
• 2:34:14
  directly or anything like that. I mean, my mom, my mother had
• 2:34:21
  lung cancer last year. Fortunately, it was like stage
• 2:34:25
  one there, my new but it was a still concern.
• 2:34:31
  And her. Yeah, just a just a concern,
• 2:34:34
  right? Yeah.
• 2:34:35
  No, that's that's like a life changing moment for somebody.
• 2:34:38
  And you know, and her and her insurance would not cover, would
• 2:34:46
  not cover the treatment that that she wanted because it
• 2:34:49
  wasn't, it wasn't life threatening.
• 2:34:52
  Yeah, well, you know, by the time cancer, by the time cancer
• 2:34:56
  gets be a life threatening, it's usually, you know, to wait.
• 2:35:01
  Well, for yeah, usually it's well, well, too late.
• 2:35:05
  Fortunately, she had a health savings account that she was
• 2:35:08
  able to pay for the stuff through, which, you know, thank
• 2:35:12
  God that existed, but if she had had that.
• 2:35:15
  Right. If she hadn't had that, a death
• 2:35:17
  panel had just made a decision. And that decision was that she
• 2:35:21
  doesn't get to live. Yeah, if.
• 2:35:25
  Fucked, yeah. If she hadn't had that I want to
• 2:35:28
  be, yeah. If she hadn't had that, I, you
• 2:35:32
  know, I'd be with. I'd be without a mom right now,
• 2:35:36
  so. Yeah, because some bureaucrat at
• 2:35:39
  the fucking at the insurance company or Medicare or whoever,
• 2:35:42
  some bureaucrat, nobody knows who the fuck he is.
• 2:35:45
  And and five other fucking bureaucrats sat down and said
• 2:35:48
  she don't need it, she don't need it.
• 2:35:52
  Yeah. Boy, for whatever their
• 2:35:54
  reasoning was, that's that was their conclusion.
• 2:35:57
  Yeah, well, well, like, even even after my physical therapist
• 2:36:01
  and my doctor both wrote a convincing case, you know, for
• 2:36:06
  why needed a new manual chair, the the panel still went and he
• 2:36:11
  doesn't need it. So despite being about by not
• 2:36:16
  one, not two, but three professionals and he still
• 2:36:21
  doesn't doesn't need it. Greg.
• 2:36:24
  Greg going Joe. Very cool.
• 2:36:28
  Yeah, that's why. That's why Trump was like, okay
• 2:36:31
  offer me something different than this.
• 2:36:34
  And they refused to come up with anything they couldn't even like
• 2:36:38
  It was it was repeal and replace, right?
• 2:36:40
  Was the original campaign slogan.
• 2:36:43
  Repeal and replace Obamacare. He gave up on replace.
• 2:36:46
  At some point, they couldn't even do a clean repeal.
• 2:36:50
  They all wanted their earmarks for their little butt.
• 2:36:52
  And I'm talking about Republicans now.
• 2:36:54
  Yeah, they wanted their earmarks in the bill for my buddy that
• 2:36:59
  runs a fucking medical supply manufacturing company.
• 2:37:03
  He needs to get 3 billion or whatever.
• 2:37:05
  Like, they didn't want to fucking do it without giving
• 2:37:08
  handouts to all of their fucking supporters.
• 2:37:11
  So they just didn't do anything. And Trump was like.
• 2:37:15
  All right. If if, if another Congress comes
• 2:37:19
  in, like maybe, I don't know, a Democrat one, you guys just blew
• 2:37:23
  your opportunity. And that I think is the biggest
• 2:37:25
  blown opportunity of the Republican Party in my life.
• 2:37:32
  I would say maybe, maybe my entire life, that was their
• 2:37:35
  biggest blunder is not even attempting to reform, repeal or
• 2:37:40
  replace Obamacare in any way, shape or form unless you count
• 2:37:44
  Trump and his executive order. It's the only reform we got
• 2:37:48
  that's Republicans fault. That is not Democrats fault,
• 2:37:51
  Democrats fault for passing it, But they believe in the fucking
• 2:37:55
  thing. OK, so you can't, you can't say
• 2:37:57
  Oh well you know you passed it. You're the bad guy.
• 2:37:59
  Only these people that know it's bad.
• 2:38:02
  No, it's going to collapse. No, it's fucking you over.
• 2:38:05
  No, it's fucking the average fucking working class guy over
• 2:38:09
  told by Trump for two years. You have a clear majority in
• 2:38:12
  both the House and the Senate come up with.
• 2:38:15
  Goddamn anything. Literally anything.
• 2:38:17
  And they came up with nothing. Yeah.
• 2:38:20
  And that and and that. Is Republicans in a nutshell?
• 2:38:24
  Yep. And that's why.
• 2:38:26
  And that, and that is why Tucker is absolutely right when he says
• 2:38:29
  that the Republicans are just as despised by the people as the
• 2:38:34
  Democrats are now. Right.
• 2:38:36
  Because the people who hated what the?
• 2:38:38
  See, there's a lot of people that like Obamacare, OK?
• 2:38:41
  Mostly poor people who didn't have insurance before.
• 2:38:44
  Fair enough, right? But if the people that hate
• 2:38:47
  Obamacare, you're basically you elected representative are the 1
• 2:38:53
  hope I have maybe we could get something different and you just
• 2:38:56
  Nah, Nah, we're not even going to try because it's what Trump
• 2:39:00
  wants. It was a Never Trumper thing.
• 2:39:02
  Let's be real the the first two years of his presidency, if he
• 2:39:07
  had had the Republicans even partially on board, he could
• 2:39:10
  have got everything in his agenda done.
• 2:39:13
  And he didn't. Yeah.
• 2:39:15
  He tried like hell. He got a lot of it.
• 2:39:18
  But he could have gotten, he could have gotten the wall built
• 2:39:21
  in 2018. Probably.
• 2:39:23
  It could have been finished, and that's why.
• 2:39:26
  And that's what you don't fucking get.
• 2:39:28
  Ann Coulter? Yes, I'm, I'm calling you out.
• 2:39:31
  I I was reading. I was reading Ann Coulter's sub
• 2:39:35
  stack today and she was like, why is why is Trump just
• 2:39:39
  promising the same stuff that he repeated that he was promising
• 2:39:43
  the last time? Don't we want anything?
• 2:39:46
  You know, shouldn't he be coming with something new?
• 2:39:49
  And it's like, well, and he didn't get to do, he didn't get
• 2:39:54
  to complete anything from the first time around.
• 2:40:04
  Yeah, it's it's it's wild, man. It's it's wild to watch these
• 2:40:09
  Republicans time and time again. These neocons and Never Trumpers
• 2:40:14
  just just give us the shaft for years and years and years.
• 2:40:17
  And like I said before Trump, I never considered myself a
• 2:40:19
  Republican. Ever.
• 2:40:21
  Yeah, well, and This is why. Because Republicans, by and
• 2:40:25
  large, are useless. Well, and I and and I, unless
• 2:40:30
  there's a war. Oh my God.
• 2:40:32
  If there's a war, they'll get their asses in gear, won't they?
• 2:40:38
  Well, and I and I have, but Matt needs a fucking wheelchair.
• 2:40:51
  Well, Max and that that is why that happens, to make the
• 2:40:54
  announcement that if you know I'm on board with you.
• 2:40:41
  And they're missing in action, right?
• 2:40:44
  But Ukraine needs some bombs. And they're like, Oh yes,
• 2:40:47
  please, kill. If they do, if they do somehow
• 2:41:00
  walk Trump up and completely bungle this, this I'm I'm.
• 2:41:06
  I'm leaving the Republican Party.
• 2:41:08
  If it's not Trump, probably. Yeah, we'll see.
• 2:41:13
  I do think that the millennial, millennial Republican Party is
• 2:41:17
  going to look a lot different. But right now we have the
• 2:41:21
  numbers, but we don't have the positions.
• 2:41:23
  Like Mitch McConnell is still there spacing out, as I'm sure
• 2:41:27
  you saw, and all these people, there is hope for the Republican
• 2:41:32
  Party of the future. But right now we're in the
• 2:41:35
  transition period and there wouldn't be if it wasn't for
• 2:41:38
  Trump anyway. So I I do, I'm, I am optimistic
• 2:41:41
  about the future. But the boomers are stuck in the
• 2:41:45
  boomer. Republicans specifically are
• 2:41:47
  kind of stuck in their ways. And the Gen.
• 2:41:49
  X politicians have always Gen. X is in general, but
• 2:41:53
  specifically their politicians do have that like don't rock the
• 2:41:57
  boat mentality. And so they just go along with
• 2:42:01
  what's? But, yeah, but but that, but
• 2:42:03
  that was, but that was Gen. X kind of as a generation.
• 2:42:07
  Yeah, they don't rock the boat or or rock the boat in safe ways
• 2:42:12
  was very Gen. X, right.
• 2:42:15
  Millennials, I mean, look, we've been through a lot.
• 2:42:19
  We've been through a lot. Again, it's like the oldest tier
• 2:42:22
  of millennial. You start with 9/11 and
• 2:42:27
  Columbine, you start with the the wars, you start with the
• 2:42:32
  2008 collapse, you go to fucking on and on like we've been
• 2:42:37
  through a lot as a generation and a lot of it as as impacted
• 2:42:41
  us mostly either economically or on a battlefield in another
• 2:42:46
  country. And that is going to create a
• 2:42:49
  mindset of, you know, millennial conservatives that is distinctly
• 2:42:53
  different from both Gen. X and Boomers.
• 2:42:57
  Well, and and I and I would even argue socially like, you know,
• 2:43:02
  millennial, millennial consumers aren't necessarily like as
• 2:43:07
  socially conservative as perhaps the boomer considers were.
• 2:43:10
  But I will, I will say this like a lot of, a lot of millennial
• 2:43:17
  consumers are like, yeah, we didn't like care if anyone.
• 2:43:20
  You know, was gay or straight, but now you want to force this
• 2:43:24
  shit on our kids? When it comes to gay, we were
• 2:43:29
  like the most tolerant and it's really turned a corner.
• 2:43:34
  We were super tolerant of fucking gay people just
• 2:43:37
  generally until the last couple years.
• 2:43:42
  Yeah, and it's because and it. And it's because they it's
• 2:43:46
  because they did the one thing that we asked them not to, which
• 2:43:48
  is, hey, man, don't shove it in my face.
• 2:43:51
  Just, you know, if you want to do that, yeah, don't shove it in
• 2:43:56
  my face and leave kids alone. Now they've they've done the
• 2:44:00
  opposite of those two things. Yeah.
• 2:44:04
  Well, and they're and they're seeing the backlash of it and
• 2:44:07
  they don't understand. And I don't expect them to ever
• 2:44:10
  really get where it's coming from.
• 2:44:14
  They're just gonna say you must just be a fucking Nazi or
• 2:44:17
  whatever. I love the fact that, like, I
• 2:44:21
  love the fact that there was a Game of War awards thing where
• 2:44:26
  they brought Dylan Mulvaney at. She got like a Oh yeah, she got
• 2:44:31
  stream. He got streamer of the year.
• 2:44:33
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 2:44:36
  And then there's and then there's like A and then there's
• 2:44:38
  like a backlash. And they're like, well, that's
• 2:44:40
  just trying to. Transphobic.
• 2:44:42
  And it's like, no, you're a fucking clown.
• 2:44:45
  That's why people are. That's why people are not taking
• 2:44:50
  you seriously. It's it's because you're a
• 2:44:52
  clown. You're the the further you push
• 2:44:55
  it, the the worse the response that you're going to get is.
• 2:44:59
  Because nobody cares. Nobody cares what your fake
• 2:45:02
  gender is and it is fake. Everybody knows what gender you
• 2:45:05
  really are. Most of the most people you run
• 2:45:07
  across, you instantly can categorize in your brain to he
• 2:45:11
  or she. There's a reason for that,
• 2:45:13
  right? That's that's.
• 2:45:14
  Yeah, it's we're wired this way. So before it would be like, OK,
• 2:45:20
  yeah, I'm going to be really nice to this person and just
• 2:45:23
  walk away afterwards and that's that.
• 2:45:25
  Now a lot of people are just like, hey, tranny, you know you.
• 2:45:30
  Grooming any kids, it's like, well, they brought this on them
• 2:45:34
  and maybe not that particular person that's getting the shit
• 2:45:37
  it brought on themselves. But they can't look around and
• 2:45:41
  not realize why it's happening. And if they don't realize why
• 2:45:44
  it's happening, then they're never going to be able to.
• 2:45:47
  They're incapable of it. Right.
• 2:45:49
  Well, what it's kind of like, well, it's the other thing too,
• 2:45:54
  like, right, if if you're just a trans individual and you're and
• 2:45:58
  or you're just a gay individual. That just wants to live, you
• 2:46:02
  know, your life out. That's fine, just don't just
• 2:46:06
  don't attract attention to yourself.
• 2:46:08
  But but when you're doing what Dilma Mulvaney does, which is
• 2:46:12
  basically like literally doing everything except for like, you
• 2:46:17
  know, wearing like a neon sign that says look at me like, like
• 2:46:22
  Dil Navaney, they're they're doing everything possible to get
• 2:46:25
  attention. And then they're complaining
• 2:46:27
  when they get attention. And it's like.
• 2:46:29
  No, no, no. You don't get to do that.
• 2:46:31
  You don't get to do a a neon sign that says look at me and
• 2:46:35
  then complain when people actually give you, you know, the
• 2:46:40
  attention that you don't, you know, want.
• 2:46:43
  So yeah, it's it's really, it's hilarious how it's gone this
• 2:46:51
  way, like. I I would actually argue that.
• 2:46:54
  I would actually argue. And this may be controversial,
• 2:46:57
  but I would actually argue that don't have any likes the
• 2:47:01
  negative attention. Most of them do.
• 2:47:04
  Most of them do. I mean they claim they don't,
• 2:47:08
  but why, you know, why would they, Why would they be so
• 2:47:13
  outrageous that if they didn't that is that is the one thing
• 2:47:16
  that mile is absolutely right out.
• 2:47:20
  You know so. But any other topics?
• 2:47:31
  Or oh, there was the based kid with the fucking Gadsden flag.
• 2:47:37
  Did you see? That oh that that's that's
• 2:47:40
  right. I what's the what was the store
• 2:47:44
  with that exactly? I did kid had backpack.
• 2:47:48
  He had a bunch of like kind of libertarian themed stuff.
• 2:47:52
  It wasn't even Trump stuff on his backpack.
• 2:47:56
  Revolutionary warship, you know, that kind of imagery.
• 2:47:58
  And he had a Gadsden flag patch. And the principal the previous
• 2:48:04
  day had removed him from class and sent him home, essentially
• 2:48:10
  suspended him for the patch, saying that it promotes slavery
• 2:48:13
  and is racist. And so he came back the next day
• 2:48:18
  with a Gadsden flag, and he recorded the meeting with the
• 2:48:21
  teachers. And he totally like, owned them,
• 2:48:25
  you know. And so now he, they put out a
• 2:48:27
  statement that he's allowed to wear it, actually don't sue us,
• 2:48:31
  basically. Wow.
• 2:48:35
  Good on. Good on that kid, then.
• 2:48:39
  Yeah, yeah. See that?
• 2:48:40
  That's why. That's why I can't get black
• 2:48:42
  holes, folks. I I mean, I don't want to speak
• 2:48:44
  for Max, but that, but that's why.
• 2:48:46
  That's why I can't get black hole.
• 2:48:48
  Because, yeah, I mean. The government is incompetent
• 2:48:52
  and they do shitty things and yeah, healthcare, you know,
• 2:48:57
  healthcare sucks and yeah, we might be in entangled in a
• 2:49:01
  foreign conflict that we don't need to be in.
• 2:49:04
  But I'm optimistic because like Trump said in his interview with
• 2:49:09
  Tucker last week, the the American people, deep down they
• 2:49:13
  they get it right. They know what's going on and.
• 2:49:20
  Knowing as half the battle TI Joe Yeah, no kids are good, man.
• 2:49:30
  Like, here's the thing, you know, the best determiner if a
• 2:49:35
  kid is going to be like a worthwhile person is their dad.
• 2:49:43
  That's just my experience, and dealing with a lot of other guys
• 2:49:46
  with kids nowadays is if they don't have a dad present at all,
• 2:49:51
  usually they're worst behaved. Usually they're, you know,
• 2:49:55
  whatever, whatever. There's a lot of things you
• 2:49:57
  could say about that. If dad's there and he's like a
• 2:49:59
  weak soy boy, same thing, usually.
• 2:50:03
  But if dad is a masculine man of some variety or another, doesn't
• 2:50:07
  even matter. Black man.
• 2:50:08
  I've met some like this summer I I think I said it at the
• 2:50:11
  campground. I met this one black father.
• 2:50:13
  He's the best goddamn dad I've met ever.
• 2:50:17
  He's a he's a Marine, right? So he raised his kids with
• 2:50:19
  fucking submarine stuff. Like all my kids line up and
• 2:50:24
  they line up. You know what I'm saying?
• 2:50:27
  Yeah. If there's a good dad there
• 2:50:29
  who's not afraid to be a man that rubs off on kids, even if
• 2:50:34
  not directly. And I think that's going to be a
• 2:50:37
  thing with Jen Alpha because I know a lot of guys were still
• 2:50:40
  mad. You're The thing is you're not
• 2:50:41
  allowed to be masculine like online, right.
• 2:50:45
  But go into real life, go to a big, you know, local meet up go
• 2:50:49
  to a bar on a Friday night like the guys in my age racket in a
• 2:50:53
  little younger, all are like fucking the same they were 20
• 2:50:57
  years ago. They're not.
• 2:50:59
  Yeah. Pussies.
• 2:51:00
  They're not soy boys. Yeah, things things are, things
• 2:51:04
  don't change that much. And then and then when and then
• 2:51:07
  when the and then when those types do show up.
• 2:51:10
  It's kind of like everyone just stares at them ock.
• 2:51:13
  Yeah, awkwardly, Yeah. They'll come in and and try and
• 2:51:17
  make changes to the bar or something and everybody is like,
• 2:51:20
  geez, get get this fucking weirdo out of here.
• 2:51:23
  Who is this pussy Who invited him?
• 2:51:25
  You know what I mean? You might not say that out loud,
• 2:51:28
  but the moment he walks away, everybody's like, who the fuck
• 2:51:31
  was that guy? God, does he have a set of nuts
• 2:51:35
  at all like? Yeah, I don't know.
• 2:51:39
  I mean, a lot of masculine men in real life normally that are
• 2:51:43
  normal like me. And so when I run into these
• 2:51:47
  femboys and soy boys and all that shit, it's actually the
• 2:51:49
  outlier. And yes, I'm in Massachusetts, I
• 2:51:53
  might remind you. Yeah, no, it's it's really hairy
• 2:51:57
  blue state. No, I'm glad you said that,
• 2:52:02
  because it is. It is pretty jarring because
• 2:52:07
  right like. Like the it's kind of like, you
• 2:52:14
  know, it is kind of like I will say with my dad's partner,
• 2:52:22
  right. I mean, I'm not going to dox her
• 2:52:25
  other than to say that like as far as personality goes, she's
• 2:52:31
  literally in the interaction that I've had with her.
• 2:52:36
  She's literally the social justice warrior who was
• 2:52:40
  screaming at the sky when Trump got inaugurated.
• 2:52:46
  Yeah, well, a lot of them. Made that their old personality
• 2:52:50
  and then they expect us not to judge them as such, right?
• 2:52:53
  Right, but it but. It's like, you know, that was a
• 2:52:56
  meme online and then to meet and then to meet someone and you
• 2:53:01
  know, semi in person and be like, oh wow.
• 2:53:05
  This type of person actually does exist.
• 2:53:07
  It's strange, right? Because like even most of the
• 2:53:12
  liberals I know around here, they're like, yeah, I don't like
• 2:53:15
  Trump, you know, whatever. But, you know, they act
• 2:53:18
  normally, right? They, they have jobs that, you
• 2:53:22
  know, they go to church. They're not up in everyone's
• 2:53:25
  business. And yeah, maybe it's just
• 2:53:28
  because Florida Democrats are more conservative because it's
• 2:53:31
  the South. But but still it's like.
• 2:53:35
  It's like, there are levels to this stuff.
• 2:53:40
  So yeah, but I mean, for me, it's like I ran into a tranny
• 2:53:46
  last year. That doesn't happen very often.
• 2:53:49
  So it was a notable experience. And unfortunately, I had to,
• 2:53:53
  like have a conversation with this person because they were
• 2:53:56
  the cashier at the store, right? And you just I just be nice and
• 2:54:01
  then laugh when I walk out the door at how ridiculous they
• 2:54:04
  were, right? And that's allow a lot of people
• 2:54:07
  treat. Hey, if a tranny sees this, let
• 2:54:09
  me tell you, a lot of people are doing that.
• 2:54:11
  They're very, very nice to your face and they laugh at you
• 2:54:14
  behind your back because you look ridiculous or you act
• 2:54:17
  ridiculous or in some other way you are comical.
• 2:54:22
  It's not. It's not.
• 2:54:23
  Their fault? They're not hateful people.
• 2:54:25
  You've made yourself a mockery of humanity.
• 2:54:29
  And they find it funny, right? And so how did I handle dealing
• 2:54:33
  with this tranny? Well, there was two stores that
• 2:54:36
  I could go to that have the thing that I want.
• 2:54:39
  I go to the other store now because they don't have any
• 2:54:41
  trainings, because it's awkward. That's another thing.
• 2:54:46
  People will avoid that kind of shit because it's awkward.
• 2:54:49
  Yeah, no, I I I've certainly. Even if you're nice, it's still
• 2:54:54
  awkward, right? Because you're worried that is
• 2:54:57
  it going to be? Because I know that there are
• 2:55:00
  trannies that are also not completely fucking insane,
• 2:55:03
  right? But is it going to be one of
• 2:55:05
  them or is it going to be it's ma'am?
• 2:55:08
  You never know. Yeah, yeah, that that.
• 2:55:10
  Yeah, that's that. That's exactly what it is with
• 2:55:13
  me. Like, you know, like you know
• 2:55:16
  me. I'm a nice guy.
• 2:55:17
  But like I don't. I don't want to walk on egg.
• 2:55:20
  I don't want to. I did again.
• 2:55:23
  I don't want to roll on egg shells.
• 2:55:25
  I I said walk. But I'm a.
• 2:55:28
  You know, it's it's it's really was here.
• 2:55:31
  You'd never hear the end of it. It's it.
• 2:55:34
  Yeah. It's an expression, folks.
• 2:55:38
  Yeah, I don't want to walk on egg shell.
• 2:55:41
  Sam Walk confirmed. Because Oh yeah, I I've been.
• 2:55:47
  I've been exposed. You know what's funny?
• 2:55:50
  I was talking. We were talking about the merch
• 2:55:52
  thing and like how to like, insult people earlier, right?
• 2:55:56
  And it's funny is that it gets you more flustered when we say
• 2:55:59
  you can walk then when Marcia's like.
• 2:56:01
  He's a retarded cripple. You know what I mean?
• 2:56:06
  It says it says a lot, right? If we're like, if we're like Sam
• 2:56:10
  can walk, he's like, oh man, are we doing this again?
• 2:56:14
  If he says Sam's crippled, yeah, of course, you fucking moron.
• 2:56:18
  Well, it also like what? Also, like I've heard all, I've
• 2:56:23
  heard all of the crippled jokes before.
• 2:56:25
  So it's like, it's it's kind of like, yeah, yeah, Mersh.
• 2:56:30
  Like I've heard. I've heard everything you're
• 2:56:33
  saying. Like I heard when I was in when
• 2:56:35
  I was in middle school, like, but like really like, no, Sam
• 2:56:39
  actually can walk like like that that, but just that bit like
• 2:56:45
  it's kind of like, OK, like obviously I know Shmuley is
• 2:56:49
  like. Messing around, but just like,
• 2:56:51
  OK, I'm here. See you haven't seen his his red
• 2:56:54
  line graph. Nah, he's got a whole theory
• 2:56:57
  about this. Well no I'm I'm sure which and
• 2:57:02
  see like she really is one of these people and it like when he
• 2:57:07
  when he when he starts a bit like I'm always curious to see
• 2:57:10
  like where it ends up because like so is he.
• 2:57:17
  Yeah, yeah, I know that is that is the thing.
• 2:57:20
  It's like, it's like he could start somewhere, then we could
• 2:57:25
  end up, we could end up somewhere else in Tyler.
• 2:57:29
  So I just love it because it's like, yeah, all the cripple
• 2:57:32
  jokes, you either have a comeback or it's like, man, I've
• 2:57:35
  heard this so many fucking times, but Sam's secretly been
• 2:57:39
  lying his whole life. And can.
• 2:57:42
  You don't know how to respond to that because it's not something
• 2:57:44
  that happened. Well, no, it.
• 2:57:45
  It's not coming up all the time. Well, no, it's it's not.
• 2:57:49
  It's not only that but but you know there's going to be some
• 2:57:53
  idiot out there that like actually believe that's what I'm
• 2:57:57
  hoping for. I want the the I want that one
• 2:58:01
  van that's like Sam can walk and I know it like that would be
• 2:58:05
  amazing. I want that guy because, like,
• 2:58:08
  that would make the chat the funniest thing ever.
• 2:58:11
  If there's a guy in there that's just like I know Sam can walk,
• 2:58:14
  well, there is, isn't there? Like a bag of news network or
• 2:58:17
  whatever? Yeah, but he doesn't like
• 2:58:20
  smoothly so. Yeah, no, I I I'm waiting for
• 2:58:28
  the, I'm waiting for the bit when, like, I know Sam can walk
• 2:58:32
  because his cows confirmed it, not realizing that smoothly.
• 2:58:38
  That schmooze a troll. That's that's the other thing
• 2:58:41
  that that's funny. Don't let him fool you guys.
• 2:58:43
  As soon as the camera gets off, he gets up and walks out.
• 2:58:46
  We're not live anymore. And he's like, I can't believe
• 2:58:49
  they bought it. Yes, every week.
• 2:58:57
  You know that that's that's good.
• 2:58:58
  That's going to be, that's going to be Mersh's next bit.
• 2:59:01
  Is that like, you know, Jim's faking cancer and I'm faking.
• 2:59:05
  I'm faking. Being in in the will, Yeah.
• 2:59:08
  Yeah, Sam's faking. Being crippled.
• 2:59:11
  That that, you know, that would that would be a funny prank if
• 2:59:16
  only because it would be the that would be the most expensive
• 2:59:20
  proposition ever for for prank. Yeah.
• 2:59:27
  Well that $40,000 wheelchair for a prank is pretty that's
• 2:59:32
  commitment. Yeah.
• 2:59:34
  Well, well, not just that, but also like.
• 2:59:37
  Retrofitting the bathrooms and the house and, you know, like,
• 2:59:44
  yeah, but the audience doesn't know you've actually done that,
• 2:59:46
  right? Well, now that now they do.
• 2:59:52
  Ah, but, but now there's suspicion raised.
• 2:59:57
  Well, see, that's why it's a it's a better bit than oh, sure,
• 3:00:02
  there's a cripple because he gets so awkward by it.
• 3:00:04
  He's like. He's like, he knows it's funny,
• 3:00:08
  right? And he knows that everybody else
• 3:00:10
  will know why this is funny. But at the same time, he's like,
• 3:00:13
  I really don't want this to become like a huge thing with
• 3:00:16
  like random people being like stolen wheelchair.
• 3:00:19
  Valor or whatever. Yeah, well no, that's that's
• 3:00:24
  because, like, that's because people are.
• 3:00:26
  That's because people are dumb, and they'll and ironically like
• 3:00:30
  they'll and ironically believe it like.
• 3:00:36
  And thus is the basis of all of me and Schmooly's humor.
• 3:00:41
  Well, no. People will just believe you if
• 3:00:44
  you say some shit sometimes. Well, no.
• 3:00:47
  Well, no, it's what's so there. Was a period of time where where
• 3:00:51
  Apex Gamma was like really busy with where Apex Gamma was really
• 3:00:57
  like busy with work and whatnot. So we had to.
• 3:01:01
  Take some time off from the show right.
• 3:01:03
  And so I completely deadpan was just like I've got some bad news
• 3:01:10
  folks. Apex is dead and like people
• 3:01:17
  people bought it some when some. Then when he came back, it was
• 3:01:23
  like, well, you're the first person to ironically like.
• 3:01:28
  Be resurrected from the dead. How does it feel?
• 3:01:34
  And then and then we just and then we just came up with like
• 3:01:38
  different you know ways to like kill them off each week, each
• 3:01:44
  week basically Truly. And I built up a lot of these
• 3:01:49
  ideas just from like improv trolling people and we've gotten
• 3:01:54
  a sense on how to read people really well in real time and
• 3:01:58
  come up with like what would the, what would cause chaos in
• 3:02:01
  this situation. This is like, besides like
• 3:02:06
  talking about politics that's probably our favorite thing in
• 3:02:09
  the world to do is just like and you get on somebody show and you
• 3:02:14
  just make shit up. You just lie.
• 3:02:16
  You just say, oh I'm a I don't know, whatever, like whatever is
• 3:02:20
  going to get under their skin or whatever opinion is going to
• 3:02:25
  like just make people lose their mind.
• 3:02:27
  You just got to read the room and just throw in some things
• 3:02:31
  and that leads to ultimately Mega News Network in our chat
• 3:02:37
  said in all caps. I know Sam can walk, so there
• 3:02:40
  you go. To to which I would say proof.
• 3:02:49
  Oh shit, he's got you there. Got to dig out those videos of
• 3:02:53
  him walking, running around. And then and.
• 3:03:00
  Then think about this and think about this Megan News Network.
• 3:03:04
  I can just say it's not real. It's a deep fake.
• 3:03:08
  Even if you Oh my God, that's what we got to do.
• 3:03:13
  We got to have AI generate a picture of Sam walking and just
• 3:03:16
  be like proof. Proof.
• 3:03:20
  Yeah, make it my profile picture.
• 3:03:30
  So well I He always says he walked away.
• 3:03:34
  He walks out of things all the time, and he walks on egg shells
• 3:03:38
  like. Yeah, only only we would pick up
• 3:03:45
  on shit like that and make it a thing though, to be honest.
• 3:03:48
  Well, that. That.
• 3:03:49
  Well, that's why I. You, you being a music guy, I'm
• 3:03:53
  sure you know of the whole pause.
• 3:03:56
  The whole Paul McCartney is dead thing right there.
• 3:03:59
  Are there? Like the thing that's amazing
• 3:04:02
  about that is that like Paul McCartney has said that that
• 3:04:05
  whole thing was a marketing prank.
• 3:04:08
  But there are people who still buy.
• 3:04:09
  There are people who still to this day think that Paul
• 3:04:13
  McCartney is actually dead and that the guy who like, well,
• 3:04:17
  there's a there's a modern version of the theory now too is
• 3:04:21
  that all the rappers are actually genetically made clones
• 3:04:24
  of the original rappers because they wouldn't do with the
• 3:04:27
  Illuminati set or whatever. A lot of people believe this,
• 3:04:30
  specifically Eminem. They think Eminem was replaced I
• 3:04:34
  think in 2009 is what they say, and the real martial rappers
• 3:04:40
  instead, because he did. He got he he got very, very
• 3:04:45
  political all at once. So the obvious thing that
• 3:04:50
  happened is he must be a clone now and it can't be that he was
• 3:04:54
  always a pussy bitch and you just didn't notice it.
• 3:04:58
  And and the and the and the. Trump broke his brain.
• 3:05:02
  Yeah, like many others. Yeah.
• 3:05:04
  No, he was. It was before that, though.
• 3:05:07
  He started going woke probably like 2012.
• 3:05:11
  Yeah, and a little more and more like that.
• 3:05:14
  But he wasn't putting out a lot of music at the time, so nobody
• 3:05:16
  really noticed. I did because I've always hated
• 3:05:20
  that motherfucker because I've always said he's a pussy bitch,
• 3:05:22
  he's fake and he doesn't believe in what you fucking think he
• 3:05:26
  does. And sure enough now people
• 3:05:28
  finally starting to listen. I was a moderator on feminem.com
• 3:05:33
  in like 2000 which was an anti Eminem website with DJDJ.
• 3:05:40
  Jake ran it. It's it changed to Thunderground
• 3:05:43
  when we stopped talking about Eminem?
• 3:05:47
  That that's that's awesome. I honestly like I I liked Eight
• 3:05:53
  Mile as like an album, but after that I can't name a good song.
• 3:05:59
  But I I just never liked this whiny ass voice as a guy that's
• 3:06:05
  like, I don't know, not a pussy. Like I didn't like listening to
• 3:06:11
  the whiny guy, you know? I don't know people like him.
• 3:06:14
  I'm not going to say he's not talented at rap, right?
• 3:06:18
  That would be a stupid thing to say.
• 3:06:20
  But like, when you don't like a rapper's voice, there's nothing
• 3:06:24
  else for you, right? Yeah, that.
• 3:06:26
  Yeah, that's kind of tough. And then also like, I was like
• 3:06:30
  an underground hip hop guy and everybody was like, have you
• 3:06:33
  heard about this new Eminem guy? And I'm like, yeah, I don't
• 3:06:35
  really like him. And they're like.
• 3:06:37
  Oh, you don't like him? What?
• 3:06:40
  He's so good and it's just it's not my thing brother.
• 3:06:44
  And it got so bad. That's why I got so anti Eminem.
• 3:06:47
  It's because everybody was telling me how great he was.
• 3:06:48
  I brought an Eminem sucks tshirt at Actually, no.
• 3:06:53
  Jamie Madrox from Twisted bought it for me at a show in Boston
• 3:06:59
  and I wore that shirt to the premiere of Jackass.
• 3:07:03
  The movie. Right, but Jackass the movie
• 3:07:06
  came out on the same night as Eight Mile, so I wore by.
• 3:07:11
  Yeah, that's right. And I got in a fight because
• 3:07:14
  three Eminem fans were really fucking mad about that shirt.
• 3:07:19
  And yeah, they didn't win the fight.
• 3:07:23
  They didn't win the fight and they got arrested.
• 3:07:27
  So not a good night to be triggered by a T-shirt.
• 3:07:32
  Yeah, no, I mean Eminem. Like, even if you even if you
• 3:07:42
  used to like him, he just he was, he was one of those people
• 3:07:47
  that like, started to buy his own bullshit.
• 3:07:50
  Yeah, he you might. If you like him, he probably
• 3:07:53
  doesn't like you. He just doesn't know who you
• 3:07:56
  are. But if he did, he wouldn't.
• 3:07:58
  That's. That's generally true.
• 3:08:01
  You know, and hey, you know, that's true of a lot of artists.
• 3:08:05
  He's not alone in that. But there is the theory that him
• 3:08:08
  and a bunch of others got replaced by clones.
• 3:08:13
  God. Who else?
• 3:08:15
  Jayz's one of them. You know, it's just like rappers
• 3:08:18
  that they're like, yeah, it's definitely a clone now.
• 3:08:22
  I don't know. I think Eminem got a lot of
• 3:08:24
  money and a lot of people tell us, you know, kissing his ass,
• 3:08:27
  telling him he's great and he believes it, like you said.
• 3:08:30
  That's all. I don't think it's a clone.
• 3:08:33
  I've I've seen that happen to enough people where they they're
• 3:08:37
  semi famous and they're cool as fuck and then they break out big
• 3:08:42
  and they're just. Awful.
• 3:08:46
  You know, awful. Yeah, well, that well, that's
• 3:08:50
  well. And again, going back to Mersh,
• 3:08:53
  like he used to be Mr. Anti, you know you used to make.
• 3:08:59
  You know, he and he and Royce, when they began the show, they
• 3:09:02
  were making fun of, you know, locals and flaggers.
• 3:09:06
  And then they became happens more than you would like it to,
• 3:09:12
  I think. After after modicum of, you
• 3:09:16
  know, fame, it just takes a little whatever they think is a
• 3:09:24
  lot, but it might not actually be that much.
• 3:09:27
  See, I I got into the music industry in a place that I
• 3:09:33
  wasn't ever going to be that right.
• 3:09:36
  I was a producer. You notice you don't see a lot
• 3:09:39
  of producers talk a lot like music producers.
• 3:09:41
  You don't see them talk politics.
• 3:09:43
  You don't you don't see a lot of music producers coming out with
• 3:09:46
  hot takes. Usually it's because it's a very
• 3:09:50
  backstage kind of thing. Same thing with like, I was like
• 3:09:53
  the Gopher first. I wasn't like on par with them.
• 3:09:56
  I was beneath them. You know what I mean?
• 3:09:59
  People act like it's me telling. Oh, I'm a story about me being a
• 3:10:02
  big shot. No, no, no.
• 3:10:04
  I was the lowest man on the totem pole and I got treated as
• 3:10:07
  such by many, many celebrities. And there's others who are cool,
• 3:10:11
  some of them. Some people can handle all the
• 3:10:13
  fame in the world and still be just real shout out to fucking
• 3:10:17
  Joey Fatone from *NSYNC. He's one of those people,
• 3:10:20
  surprisingly enough. Had a wonderful conversation
• 3:10:23
  with that guy. He was fucking chill as fuck.
• 3:10:26
  Sometimes the right person gets famous.
• 3:10:29
  Usually not though. Usually fame just completely
• 3:10:32
  ruins people's minds and they start to feel like they're hot
• 3:10:35
  shit and like that. They don't bleed red and they
• 3:10:38
  don't take a shit like everybody else and suddenly they're better
• 3:10:41
  than everybody. And then you become Madonna or
• 3:10:44
  something? Yeah, I know.
• 3:10:47
  And I mean, I I've, I've, I've been around enough of those
• 3:10:51
  people to be like, yeah, this fame.
• 3:10:56
  This E fame thing is stupid. That that's that's another thing
• 3:11:00
  I like is is when Mersh's insults me was you'll never be
• 3:11:04
  in her. You'll never be famous on the
• 3:11:07
  Internet like me. You'll always be in my shadow.
• 3:11:09
  And it's like, well, a of course, always be in your shadow
• 3:11:12
  because because you're a fat because you're a fat fuck.
• 3:11:16
  And like, yeah, literally your shadow dwarfs me.
• 3:11:21
  But be like. OK, maybe I don't want to be,
• 3:11:27
  you know, like I've seen what fame did to you.
• 3:11:30
  Maybe I just like sharing my opinions and the people like
• 3:11:33
  them. That's fine.
• 3:11:35
  Like, not not everybody does a show because they want to make
• 3:11:38
  it a career either. And that's not to say, oh, well,
• 3:11:42
  if we took off, we couldn't do that.
• 3:11:44
  Just that. Like, that's not the goal here.
• 3:11:47
  It's just it would be a nice byproduct of what we're doing.
• 3:11:51
  I mean, if it's if it's your only reason for doing it, then
• 3:11:56
  you're more prone to just thinking you deserve it, I
• 3:12:00
  guess. I mean, my whole thing is this
• 3:12:03
  if because like people have said, oh, well, you know, you're
• 3:12:07
  just doing this because you want Internet payments.
• 3:12:11
  It's like, no, if if I had wanted that, I would have, I
• 3:12:14
  would have latched on to, you know, whatever trend was out
• 3:12:18
  there, so. You know, I probably, I probably
• 3:12:24
  won't even even be doing politics.
• 3:12:25
  I'd be doing tech reviews or something like that, you know.
• 3:12:31
  Yeah, I mean, my gaming channel is certainly done far better
• 3:12:35
  than any political content I've ever done.
• 3:12:39
  But I haven't made a gaming video in like a year and a half
• 3:12:43
  or something. It's just because I make because
• 3:12:47
  I don't care how many views they get.
• 3:12:49
  I just make what I like. I think that's a lot of people's
• 3:12:53
  problem. Yeah, somebody, what is this?
• 3:12:59
  Five shots going on? Six said.
• 3:13:01
  Biden's terrible economy. Must not so be so bad if
• 3:13:04
  Trumpers have so much money to spend on flags and stickers.
• 3:13:10
  No. First of all, I've had these
• 3:13:12
  before Biden was president, so these have been up for a long
• 3:13:19
  time. Second of all, yeah, yeah, the
• 3:13:22
  economy sucks. It actually does suck.
• 3:13:25
  So. Yeah, five shots going on. 6
• 3:13:27
  also says, oh, you're a you're a reactionary.
• 3:13:31
  Sure, I'm yeah, sure I'm a reactionary to far leftist
• 3:13:37
  politics. Yes.
• 3:13:40
  Is that a problem? I'm.
• 3:13:41
  I'm also a counter revolutionary though, because the left is the
• 3:13:45
  revolution, right? So whatever.
• 3:13:48
  Use any word you want for me. I don't fucking care.
• 3:13:51
  Yeah, the economy sucks. You want to go around telling
• 3:13:54
  people it doesn't suck because we can afford $5 flags.
• 3:13:57
  Do that. Go around and tell everybody
• 3:13:59
  that, motherfucker. I'm sure the people in your
• 3:14:02
  daily life will be like, wow, they can afford $5 flags.
• 3:14:06
  Holy shit, they must be rich. Jesus.
• 3:14:12
  Yeah, I. And and I mean and if he's
• 3:14:18
  talking about me, how am I? How am I?
• 3:14:21
  A reactionary, basically, is no because for the same reason that
• 3:14:26
  I am right, because you're a reactionary against far left
• 3:14:30
  communistic takeover of this country.
• 3:14:32
  They call that being a reactionary.
• 3:14:35
  You're reacting. So you're a reactionary.
• 3:14:38
  I agree. I am a reactionary.
• 3:14:39
  Yep, I'm a trumpeter. I must be Trump.
• 3:14:43
  Trump didn't just manifest in the ether, motherfucker.
• 3:14:46
  He is a reaction. He's a reaction to the bullshit
• 3:14:49
  that's been going on for both parties and both sides for a
• 3:14:52
  very long time. Yeah, that might not like the
• 3:14:56
  reaction, but that's what it is. Yeah, I mean, I started, I
• 3:15:03
  started off. I mean, I'm a I'm a reactionary
• 3:15:06
  in the sense that, like I started, I started off not
• 3:15:09
  liking, you know, Trump. But I was at least curious as to
• 3:15:14
  why others liked him. And then those people said I can
• 3:15:18
  ask. Those people said I can ask
• 3:15:21
  questions. So I reacted and I became a big
• 3:15:27
  time Trump supporter. So yeah, I reacted in that way.
• 3:15:33
  Yeah, go tell everybody how great the fucking Biden economy
• 3:15:36
  is right now because we can afford $5 flags and see how many
• 3:15:40
  people are like Oh yes, you are absolutely right versus how many
• 3:15:44
  people are like what are you talking about?
• 3:15:46
  I have a hard time affording things that I afforded like 2
• 3:15:49
  weeks ago, certainly two years ago.
• 3:15:54
  Yeah, whatever. I mean, if you think this
• 3:15:57
  economy is good, more power to you.
• 3:16:00
  I guess you must have a decent job.
• 3:16:02
  Certainly people that make over a certain median income don't
• 3:16:05
  feel it as much as others do. I'm not sure I I don't consider
• 3:16:10
  myself to be one of those lucky people either.
• 3:16:13
  When food prices goes up, it gets expensive.
• 3:16:16
  Clothing expensive. This was back to school week,
• 3:16:19
  motherfucker. You know how much I had to
• 3:16:20
  spend? You know about about double what
• 3:16:25
  I spent last year and about triple what I spent the year
• 3:16:28
  before that and and about four times what I spent the year
• 3:16:32
  before that. And I didn't have a kid in
• 3:16:36
  school before that, but I'm imagining probably would have
• 3:16:39
  spent even less. Now I'm spending, you know, a
• 3:16:45
  pair of pants, A pair of pants for a fucking a boy.
• 3:16:49
  You know, in in, you know, grade school.
• 3:16:53
  You're looking at like $60.00 per pair of pants sometimes.
• 3:16:57
  OK, even if you go to Walmart. Yeah, the economy's great $60.00
• 3:17:03
  pairs of pants. They're just jeans.
• 3:17:05
  They're not. They're not even name brand.
• 3:17:09
  Yeah, yeah. The economy is just wonderful.
• 3:17:12
  Wait, 60 after tax, of course. Well, shit, yeah.
• 3:17:21
  Yeah. And well, I needed more than one
• 3:17:23
  pair of pants. So you do the math and that's
• 3:17:25
  just the pants $20 tshirts fucking.
• 3:17:29
  Oh yeah, Packs of underwear. Like 30 fucking dollars, dude.
• 3:17:33
  Like, shit's outrageous. You know, I don't have as much
• 3:17:38
  food in the house right now as I normally would because we had to
• 3:17:41
  buy everything under the sun. But you know, my, it's my kids,
• 3:17:47
  you know, school year. And I got to do that.
• 3:17:50
  It just sucks. It sucks because it costs way
• 3:17:52
  the fuck more than it should. In fact, it takes up a large, it
• 3:17:57
  takes a percentage of my total income for the year.
• 3:18:01
  You know, it certainly adds up to more than one or 2% that I
• 3:18:04
  spent on just back to school. Shit, probably like 5.
• 3:18:10
  Yeah, but I, you know, between also they require computers and
• 3:18:14
  shit. Shit you got to provide for kids
• 3:18:19
  nowadays is not what I. What I needed was like a
• 3:18:22
  notebook and a pencil. They're like they need Bluetooth
• 3:18:26
  headphones and a laptop and a tablet.
• 3:18:29
  Oh my God. It's it's all that e-learning
• 3:18:36
  stuff now, yeah. Yeah.
• 3:18:41
  Which I which I'm convinced is not any better than like, which
• 3:18:46
  I'm convinced is no better than brick and mortar at this point
• 3:18:51
  in some way, but it's. Cheaper.
• 3:18:54
  That's. The only thing they care about
• 3:18:55
  is that it's cheaper. Yeah, abolish the Department of
• 3:19:01
  Education immediately. I've been saying that since.
• 3:19:07
  I've been saying that since I was in middle school, basically,
• 3:19:11
  yeah, yeah, it's terrible. But you know what?
• 3:19:15
  It is what it is. It's just you adjust, you adapt,
• 3:19:18
  you know you live in the world, but then you take your kid to
• 3:19:20
  fucking school shopping and you're like, Jesus, this is like
• 3:19:25
  okay. We're going to have one less,
• 3:19:26
  like big fun event in the fall time, maybe 2 less like we
• 3:19:32
  planned on an arcade trip. We planned on like an all day.
• 3:19:36
  You know, these are things that we kind of have to put to the
• 3:19:40
  wayside because school shopping was like twice as expensive as I
• 3:19:43
  expected. Yeah, but no, no, the economy's
• 3:19:48
  great because I can afford $5 flags.
• 3:19:52
  Give me a break. Now the economy is great because
• 3:19:56
  Biden says it is. True.
• 3:20:03
  All right, well, I, you know, schmooze down for the count, I
• 3:20:09
  think. And oh wow, we're coming up on 3
• 3:20:13
  hours and 30 minutes about so. Shit, yeah, yeah, We should
• 3:20:20
  probably call it an evening. Rejourn next week same.
• 3:20:27
  Time. Yeah.
• 3:20:28
  Rejourn. Mr. Medicer is dreaming
• 3:20:32
  tomorrow, so that'll be fun. I'm sure we'll have lots to talk
• 3:20:38
  with that. Can't wait for the return of
• 3:20:44
  cancer, man. That'll be fun.
• 3:20:48
  I'm sure all kinds of fun and stupid shit will happen that
• 3:20:51
  we'll have more. We never run out on fucking
• 3:20:54
  shit. No, I mean, I.
• 3:20:57
  I wish we would because because as much as like, we would not
• 3:21:00
  have content that week, it'd be nice to not have any, like, wild
• 3:21:04
  news stories for just one week, you know?
• 3:21:08
  I mean, I mean, this week, this week, we didn't really have any
• 3:21:11
  wild news stories. But I mean.
• 3:21:13
  True. Murder.
• 3:21:15
  But then Mersh decided to to be Mersh and give us a wild content
• 3:21:21
  to talk of. True talk out.
• 3:21:24
  And like I said, I I understand we don't usually talk of E drama
• 3:21:27
  that much here. But I mean he just, he just
• 3:21:31
  kept, he just kept posting and posting and saying.
• 3:21:36
  I saw, I saw the thing of his like his table and he's like,
• 3:21:39
  how prepared do you think I am? And he's got like cigarettes and
• 3:21:43
  bongs and like a a cheap cig. Like a clearly cheap cig.
• 3:21:50
  Like bro, if you're gonna get a cig.
• 3:21:53
  I don't know. It seems like you got he's
• 3:21:55
  probably paying for it. Still, if if we know merch at
• 3:21:58
  all. I don't know what.
• 3:22:01
  It was August though, and the whole thing was ripped by
• 3:22:04
  August, right? Well, I could safely say that
• 3:22:07
  I've lost like like like 125th of a merch this month alone.
• 3:22:15
  You know. That's the thing, That's the
• 3:22:20
  thing. I come in here and I have all
• 3:22:22
  this shit talk about politics and I troll on Twitter.
• 3:22:25
  But y'all don't even realize is that like my normal life is like
• 3:22:28
  run 10 miles, do school shit, go to the school and meet with them
• 3:22:35
  and do the activities of the school.
• 3:22:37
  Meet with second people in my neighborhood.
• 3:22:39
  Like, I'm not as online as most people.
• 3:22:44
  Max, Max is like to the show. Sometimes.
• 3:22:48
  More often not than not. Because he's running.
• 3:22:52
  Yeah, literally. Because I like, I like night
• 3:22:55
  runs. And like last week, last week
• 3:22:57
  was a good example. I was late because I think I
• 3:23:01
  even said it on the show. Fucking the cops had a whole
• 3:23:04
  fucking area blocked off and they made me go to the detour
• 3:23:07
  even though I'm on foot And I was like, bro, come on, that's
• 3:23:10
  an extra like 2 miles. I got to run now on down your
• 3:23:13
  fucking detour. Like I've already.
• 3:23:16
  And they're like, look, we can't let anybody through.
• 3:23:18
  I'm like, I could just walk right there.
• 3:23:19
  You're walking over there. You guys can walk by me, make
• 3:23:23
  sure I don't touch anything. Jesus Christ, dude.
• 3:23:25
  Anyway, yeah, I'm, I'm running, you know, I'm out there fucking
• 3:23:30
  trying to trying to take care of my my health and self.
• 3:23:33
  And I look at news stories online.
• 3:23:35
  I come in here and I shit post and then they go back into the
• 3:23:38
  real world. You might see me post on Twitter
• 3:23:41
  a lot, but that's because like I work from home.
• 3:23:45
  And I have two monitors. Yeah, same.
• 3:23:48
  Yeah, same here. I, I, I actually write for a
• 3:23:52
  living. And yeah, I'm on Twitter a lot,
• 3:23:55
  a lot of time. In fact, it was actually, I will
• 3:23:59
  say this, it was actually kind of a bit weird because even, you
• 3:24:03
  know, I had an in it. Like I kind of kept stuff off
• 3:24:06
  yesterday, just on the off chance that like we did have
• 3:24:10
  power, power outages. It was.
• 3:24:13
  It was weird to like take a nap at like 4 in the afternoon,
• 3:24:17
  like, you know, sleep has like the rain came down.
• 3:24:22
  Like I rarely do that. Just just out of boredom, right?
• 3:24:25
  Just out of like, well, there ain't shit else to do.
• 3:24:29
  Yeah, yeah, so. Yeah, that.
• 3:24:34
  But I'm glad that the, you know, as Schmuly and I said at the
• 3:24:37
  beginning, I'm glad that the government controls the weather
• 3:24:40
  and that they steered. You know, the the hurricane away
• 3:24:46
  from this area, I guess so. There you go, you know.
• 3:24:51
  Yeah, good on them. You always going to find the
• 3:24:53
  bright side. The bright side is if the
• 3:24:57
  weather, if the weather is controlled by the government, it
• 3:25:00
  didn't hit you. There you go.
• 3:25:01
  Yep, I I I had to call in a few favors.
• 3:25:06
  Wasn't cheap, but you know. Oh, you called, you called
• 3:25:10
  Wolverine, huh? He's definitely got all the
• 3:25:14
  connections, sorry. Yeah, yeah, no, I I, yeah,
• 3:25:19
  shoot. You know, you you blew his
• 3:25:21
  cover, man. So.
• 3:25:25
  He certainly seems to think so. Oh.
• 3:25:31
  I like that guy. I genuinely like the guy though.
• 3:25:34
  That's the funny part. Yeah.
• 3:25:36
  He probably doesn't think so. No that.
• 3:25:40
  No. That's.
• 3:25:41
  The funny thing is, oftentimes trolls love their muse, so.
• 3:25:47
  Well, like it's built into. I keep saying I'm Irish as fuck,
• 3:25:50
  I'm from Massachusetts. It's like built in.
• 3:25:52
  Like we enjoy arguing with people.
• 3:25:56
  That's The thing is like when you're not you, but like when
• 3:26:00
  you're mad arguing with me, just know that I'm not.
• 3:26:05
  And even if I put on airs like I am, like when I yell like I've
• 3:26:09
  been in. I've been doing this a long
• 3:26:11
  time. I know how to put on stage rage.
• 3:26:13
  No, no, that's that's how my that's how my best friend since
• 3:26:16
  middle school and I are. Like we'll literally shout at
• 3:26:20
  each other and be like I love you faggot or you know or like,
• 3:26:24
  you know or you know, stuff like that.
• 3:26:28
  Well, I'm going to get people sometimes, right?
• 3:26:31
  Like Johnny Fox was like, I'm going to get a laugh out of you.
• 3:26:34
  I'm going to make a fool out of you.
• 3:26:36
  But the difference between him and me?
• 3:26:38
  Is he thought we were engaged in like a death struggle and I was
• 3:26:43
  just having a laugh, right. And that's that's what happens a
• 3:26:47
  lot is I'm just having a laugh and people don't.
• 3:26:50
  Well. Enjoy conflict as much as I do.
• 3:26:54
  Well that well that's that's the whole that's the whole thing
• 3:26:57
  with that's the whole that was the that was the whole basis my
• 3:27:00
  of my initial feud with Mirch was like.
• 3:27:05
  I I invited one guy. I invited one guy on his on my
• 3:27:11
  show that he didn't like. And that's Alan Powell who who
• 3:27:15
  I've known since before Mersh. And Mersh had like an epic
• 3:27:20
  meltdown and did a 2 hour show on me, which I wasn't even aware
• 3:27:25
  of until someone like told me about it the next day and I'm
• 3:27:31
  like oh he didn't like. He did like a two hour show on
• 3:27:35
  me. I'll do a video response and
• 3:27:38
  then my 10 minute and then just my 10 minute video response made
• 3:27:43
  him without even more so it's all it's all good though so.
• 3:27:51
  Yeah, well, I'll still enjoy Twitter arguments until they ban
• 3:27:56
  me for quote commercial in viability, which is a thing that
• 3:27:59
  they're going to start doing. Yeah, I yeah, I read.
• 3:28:04
  I've read about that. It's it's dumb.
• 3:28:08
  It just reminds me you've seen falling down, right?
• 3:28:11
  Oh yeah. Do you remember what the sign
• 3:28:13
  the black guys holding up says? Uh.
• 3:28:19
  No. It says commercially unviable.
• 3:28:25
  Oh. Because the bank won't give him
• 3:28:27
  a loan. Because they said he's
• 3:28:29
  commercially unviable. And that's what he was like mad
• 3:28:33
  and protesting about, right? I just think it's really funny
• 3:28:36
  that that's the wording that they use cuz I'm now now we're
• 3:28:39
  all that black guy. Unless you got like 100,000
• 3:28:42
  followers, right? Holding up a sign saying
• 3:28:44
  commercially unviable. I can't, I can't talk on Twitter
• 3:28:48
  because I'm commercially unviable.
• 3:28:53
  Oh Elon. Oh my God.
• 3:28:55
  That well, Elon, you you turn Twitter onto YouTube, basically.
• 3:29:01
  So. No, to be fair, YouTube doesn't
• 3:29:04
  just ban you for not getting a lot of views.
• 3:29:07
  That's what he's saying he's Twitter's going to ban you for
• 3:29:11
  being a too small of an account. Well, I mean my channel
• 3:29:18
  stagnated 800 basically. Yeah, yeah, but that like.
• 3:29:25
  Yeah, we used to get shadow banned on YouTube.
• 3:29:28
  I'm not saying that this is just a shit, not a shadow ban.
• 3:29:31
  It's just that, oh, you're commercially enviable.
• 3:29:33
  Get out. Well, what does that even mean?
• 3:29:37
  Who's. Who's commercially enviable and
• 3:29:39
  who decides what it is? How much money do you have to
• 3:29:42
  make for that? I'll tell you what that means.
• 3:29:45
  That means the user base of X is going to suffer.
• 3:29:51
  You know exponentially when that happens.
• 3:29:54
  So. Yeah, it'll be funny.
• 3:29:57
  It'll be very, very funny. And that's what I'm here for.
• 3:30:01
  Yep, so. I mean, it'd even be funny if I
• 3:30:05
  get banned. It would have even been funny if
• 3:30:07
  I got banned for nothing on this recent flag.
• 3:30:10
  I'm pretty I'm pretty open to seeing things that are funny,
• 3:30:14
  even if they happen to me. Yeah, it'll be.
• 3:30:17
  It'll be really funny not to pick on them too much when when
• 3:30:20
  more theus gets banned for being commercially.
• 3:30:24
  Ooh, shots. No, because because thing got
• 3:30:29
  thing got it this way. Like it.
• 3:30:32
  It will, it will suck. But it'll all be funny because
• 3:30:38
  it'll be funny because it'll be like I wasn't.
• 3:30:40
  I wasn't trying to. I was being Angie or anything.
• 3:30:43
  And it's like, no more. You don't understand.
• 3:30:46
  You weren't pop. You weren't big enough.
• 3:30:49
  Yeah, you If you're not click baiting, you don't belong on
• 3:30:52
  Twitter is the new. Thing like I'm sure that'll work
• 3:30:57
  out, really. Well, for Elon, if the whole
• 3:31:00
  point of Twitter is clickbait is if it already wasn't.
• 3:31:05
  Now it's like enshrined in policy.
• 3:31:08
  Let's fucking go. Yep.
• 3:31:12
  What's threatening to the ground?
• 3:31:13
  All right, folks. And on that we'll be back next
• 3:31:19
  week, same that time, same that Channel.
• 3:31:23
  Will Max still be on X? Will Sam still be on X?
• 3:31:28
  Who knows? We got a whole month before the
• 3:31:33
  commercial in viability thing. Oh, that's a good point.
• 3:31:40
  So, all right, folks, we'll talk to John down the road.
• 3:31:45
  One final thing. Go play Disco.
• 3:31:47
  Easy. It's a fun game.
• 3:31:49
  True by Sam's book. Oh yeah, and buy and buy my book
• 3:31:55
  too. So.
• 3:31:58
  I got to show for you because you forget.
• 3:32:02
  So, all right, light, lighter Gators.
• 3:32:11
  Thanks for listening to the Whitfield report on the NGC
• 3:32:15
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• 3:32:30
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• 3:32:35
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