Latest / 360 with Katie Woolf / Rural advocate Gerry Wood raises concerns about vegetation being removed at the fire station in Howard Springs
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- 0:00Speaker 1: We're going to head beyond the bear of the line
- 0:02Speaker 1: right now, and a voice that you haven't heard for
- 0:05Speaker 1: a little while, but one that you'll definitely recognize, Jerry
- 0:09Speaker 1: would good morning to you.
- 0:10Speaker 2: Jerry, Hey, good morning, Katie. Are you.
- 0:13Speaker 1: I'm very good, lovely to have you on the show.
- 0:15Speaker 1: I'm lovely to go beyond the bear of the line
- 0:17Speaker 1: with you this morning, Jerry, because there's plenty happening out
- 0:19Speaker 1: your way, isn't there.
- 0:21Speaker 2: Oh, there's certainly lots on. I mean, you've been talking
- 0:23Speaker 2: to the Fibrigade, so obviously we've had our share of
- 0:26Speaker 2: fires out this part of the world. So I think
- 0:28Speaker 2: all those volunteers and the regulars, both of the Fire
- 0:31Speaker 2: Service and the bush Fires Council. I've seen the planes
- 0:35Speaker 2: flying lower over the rural area regularly lately, and don't
- 0:39Speaker 2: not wonder how these fires started. I can't imagine them
- 0:41Speaker 2: as lightning it this sum of year, and whether we've
- 0:43Speaker 2: got some idiots around the place that just like to
- 0:46Speaker 2: light fires at the wrong time of year.
- 0:48Speaker 1: You would really hope not, wouldn't you, Jerry? And you know,
- 0:51Speaker 1: I tend to think that most of the people that
- 0:52Speaker 1: live out in the rural area are very aware of
- 0:55Speaker 1: what they can and can't do, like when you have
- 0:57Speaker 1: those fireban days.
- 1:00Speaker 2: That's right. Whether it's there's just some lone people who
- 1:03Speaker 2: just think it's fun lading a fire. It's just coming year.
- 1:06Speaker 2: And for most people in the rural area, that's the
- 1:08Speaker 2: last thing they want. They're trying to protect their property.
- 1:10Speaker 2: They live on five acre or twenty acre blocks, and
- 1:13Speaker 2: they don't want you know, sires damaging their not only
- 1:16Speaker 2: their houses and vehicles, but also the growing mangoes crops.
- 1:21Speaker 2: And we know that fires do get stuck into a
- 1:23Speaker 2: mango plantation called a lot of damage. Certainly not something
- 1:27Speaker 2: we need.
- 1:28Speaker 1: No, that is exactly right now, Jerry. I know that
- 1:31Speaker 1: there's a few things going on as well, or a
- 1:34Speaker 1: few concerns that you'd raised with me. One thing you
- 1:36Speaker 1: were a little bit worried about was the clearing of
- 1:38Speaker 1: some of the vegetation near the fire station out there
- 1:41Speaker 1: at Howard Springs.
- 1:43Speaker 2: That's right, Hook, My dogs have decided to welcome someone,
- 1:45Speaker 2: so you've hit some barking in the background.
- 1:47Speaker 1: That's all right.
- 1:48Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, I mean it's great that we're getting what
- 1:50Speaker 2: I call the rural in Parmisansov station built in the
- 1:53Speaker 2: Howard Springs area. But there was some lovely bush in
- 1:56Speaker 2: front of that fire station. We didn't do any didn't
- 1:59Speaker 2: affect the station or because they've got a very big,
- 2:02Speaker 2: lovely manicure front lawn they put in there in front there,
- 2:06Speaker 2: but they decided to clear. Ninety five percent of that
- 2:09Speaker 2: vegetation is gone, and I just think why would it go?
- 2:13Speaker 2: Was there when the bus Stepo was there, didn't cause
- 2:15Speaker 2: the bus deebow any problem. It's a nice little habitat.
- 2:18Speaker 2: It's sort of bylieving that natural vegetation, you don't It
- 2:22Speaker 2: doesn't require watering, requires three little maintenance and reflects where
- 2:27Speaker 2: the fire station is, which is in the rural area,
- 2:29Speaker 2: not in Parmison. So someone decided that they think they
- 2:32Speaker 2: it should be tidied up, and it's all gone. So
- 2:35Speaker 2: I'm asking the ministers. I've written the minister's yestery. Can
- 2:38Speaker 2: they just leave it alone now afill the wet season
- 2:40Speaker 2: comes and see whether it will revegetate because it wasn't
- 2:43Speaker 2: doing any harm to anybody. It just seems senseless to
- 2:47Speaker 2: me why people need to do things like that. They
- 2:50Speaker 2: made it. Perhaps they just don't like noive vegetation, but
- 2:53Speaker 2: I don't know what it was.
- 2:54Speaker 1: Yeah, and so you've written to the minister though, Jerry,
- 2:56Speaker 1: to ask them to leave in a line. Yeah.
- 2:59Speaker 2: Look, sometimes dammage done to vegetation if it's not too severe, Kenry.
- 3:05Speaker 2: The vegetation where he read will revegetate pretty hardy stuff,
- 3:10Speaker 2: a lot of those trees. But of course if they
- 3:13Speaker 2: keep mowing it and slashing it or whatever they intend
- 3:15Speaker 2: to do with I have no idea, then they probably
- 3:17Speaker 2: won't come back at all. But I just don't understand
- 3:21Speaker 2: the thinking behind someone in higher levels why we should
- 3:25Speaker 2: destroy vegetation that was not needed to be destroyed. If
- 3:28Speaker 2: there's a good reason, fair enough, But there was no.
- 3:30Speaker 2: I don't believe there's a good reason. We should look
- 3:33Speaker 2: after our bush, even in small amounts. And we have
- 3:35Speaker 2: a government there's always talking about conservation and climate change
- 3:39Speaker 2: and looking after the environment. Well, sometimes there are the
- 3:41Speaker 2: big pictures, but you also need to look after the
- 3:44Speaker 2: little picture as well.
- 3:46Speaker 1: Hey, Jerry, I understand as well. There was some or
- 3:49Speaker 1: there's some use graffiti at the Howard Springs Reserve. Is
- 3:52Speaker 1: this good use graffiti or bad?
- 3:55Speaker 2: No, it's bad stuff.
- 3:56Speaker 1: What's happened?
- 3:58Speaker 2: Well, we don't know whether this person is even the
- 4:00Speaker 2: hashtag if someone knows you're sixteen. Where the crown is?
- 4:03Speaker 2: We believe it's a group of people. Where they're from.
- 4:06Speaker 2: We don't know where they're drifted in from, Parmisan or
- 4:08Speaker 2: local people. And I'd say they're probably older kids, not
- 4:11Speaker 2: young kids. There's a beer bottles around yesterday, broken beer
- 4:15Speaker 2: bottles nearby. Lookase they know who they are. Look, I'm
- 4:18Speaker 2: sure if they could let the council know or that
- 4:20Speaker 2: the police don't painted over it all yesterday cleaned it up.
- 4:24Speaker 2: The poor ladies does the hygiene in the toilets there.
- 4:27Speaker 2: I had to clean out all this poop and toilet
- 4:30Speaker 2: roll stuff down there. So you know, you wonder about
- 4:33Speaker 2: the sins because we've got a beautiful park. In fact,
- 4:35Speaker 2: we've got not only I've got the jump part there,
- 4:37Speaker 2: we've got new cricket nets. You're just about completed. It's
- 4:44Speaker 2: been built for the community. And you get some meat
- 4:47Speaker 2: dick heads. It's come along and just a rumor for everybody.
- 4:50Speaker 2: But I don't know what their logic is. It just
- 4:52Speaker 2: seems to stay, yeah, get together as a group and
- 4:54Speaker 2: sort of show off.
- 4:55Speaker 1: Well that's exactly right, and I think you hit the
- 4:58Speaker 1: nail on the head there, Jerry, I are acting like
- 5:01Speaker 1: dickheads and it's not acceptable. And you know it's an
- 5:03Speaker 1: area that people love and and you know, so much
- 5:06Speaker 1: effort put in to keep it such a beautiful place.
- 5:09Speaker 1: So it's just you know, it's not on them when
- 5:11Speaker 1: people are behaving in this way.
- 5:13Speaker 2: No, I mean it puts you know, people used to
- 5:15Speaker 2: put on the weekends it's use for cricket, the softball
- 5:19Speaker 2: and baseball, and then come and find their toilets are unusable. Well,
- 5:22Speaker 2: you know, it just shows you the logic, you know
- 5:24Speaker 2: that they don't respect other people. One of your people
- 5:27Speaker 2: were talking about before, yes, and we're talking about respect.
- 5:33Speaker 2: Your lady that works for you said about respect. I
- 5:36Speaker 2: just wonder whether some of the issues and it's not
- 5:39Speaker 2: quite on the same subject, but what's happened to all
- 5:41Speaker 2: the youth camps? So there's EMU I think it's seven
- 5:44Speaker 2: EMUs out nearborrol lillit. What has happened to the idea
- 5:48Speaker 2: of having youth work camps and things like Wildman River
- 5:51Speaker 2: the government was talking about. So some of these kids
- 5:54Speaker 2: it's talking about who are very young, you know, what's
- 5:58Speaker 2: the chances of now developing? You know, places where they
- 6:02Speaker 2: can be taken off the street if they're repeat offenders
- 6:05Speaker 2: and taken out to a place where they are safe.
- 6:07Speaker 2: And in many cases I suppose they are Aboriginal, not entirely.
- 6:12Speaker 2: I don't think the trouble is all Aboriginal. But if
- 6:14Speaker 2: they are Abriginal, you know, start to have people who
- 6:19Speaker 2: are Aboriginal looking after these kids. Out push, so get
- 6:22Speaker 2: them away from what you might say, the temptations, and
- 6:25Speaker 2: get them out there where they learn, get a bit
- 6:26Speaker 2: of education, learn a bit of respect, have to do
- 6:30Speaker 2: a bit of work, and have time away from the
- 6:32Speaker 2: phone and all the things IA equipment to think about
- 6:36Speaker 2: what they're doing. So there's a bit of a bit
- 6:39Speaker 2: of space in their life. O Push. But I don't
- 6:43Speaker 2: know what's happened to the idea that the government was
- 6:44Speaker 2: talking about youth work camps and as I said, we
- 6:47Speaker 2: had Wildman River seven you play out borrel Oh. I
- 6:51Speaker 2: think it's so sad when I hear the stories I
- 6:53Speaker 2: heard on this morning from.
- 6:54Speaker 1: That was shocked and hot.
- 6:58Speaker 2: But we can't stand still, no, and we have to
- 7:01Speaker 2: do something to fix that app not only from the
- 7:03Speaker 2: victim's point of view, but we'll take these kids off
- 7:06Speaker 2: the street. Yeah, you got to go separate them out
- 7:08Speaker 2: so they can't go out with them mates, they go
- 7:10Speaker 2: out in communities away from and give them time to
- 7:14Speaker 2: think about what the heck they're doing.
- 7:15Speaker 1: Oh, it is absolutely shocking. Yeah, look, Jerry, something we've
- 7:19Speaker 1: got to start thinking differently to what we are right
- 7:22Speaker 1: now because what's going on is just totally unacceptable. And
- 7:25Speaker 1: you know, I heard from the grandma yesterday of the
- 7:28Speaker 1: young fella who'd been assaulted at the exchange, at the
- 7:31Speaker 1: Casualina bus exchange. But then you know, I've been sent
- 7:34Speaker 1: this vision now this morning of what these kids allegedly
- 7:39Speaker 1: had done as well. And there is an old, older
- 7:42Speaker 1: Indigenous man sleeping on you know, sleeping on the ground,
- 7:47Speaker 1: and they stomp this kid stomps on his head. I
- 7:52Speaker 1: watched it and I wanted to cry, Jerry, like it's shocking.
- 7:56Speaker 2: Well, yeah, to turn it round if I meant to. Actually,
- 8:00Speaker 2: when you hear the kids are ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen,
- 8:02Speaker 2: these kids, We've got to do something now because if
- 8:05Speaker 2: it goes on too long, it'd be very hard to
- 8:08Speaker 2: turn around altogether. So that's why I'm saying, you know,
- 8:11Speaker 2: where are these places we can take these kids to
- 8:13Speaker 2: get them off the street, get them away from the temptation,
- 8:15Speaker 2: get them away from all the Wisbang computers and Facebook
- 8:20Speaker 2: and whatever, and get them out where they can hopefully
- 8:23Speaker 2: do some work, get a little bit of education, get
- 8:25Speaker 2: that older Aboriginal people working with them, and get a
- 8:29Speaker 2: bit of space in their life so that they can
- 8:31Speaker 2: sort of sit down and say, you know, wonder where
- 8:34Speaker 2: they're going and what am I here for? Which I
- 8:36Speaker 2: don't think we ask people often enough what they were
- 8:39Speaker 2: on this earth fort because there are the hard questions
- 8:42Speaker 2: everyone's got to answer to.
- 8:43Speaker 1: Sometimes absolutely, Hey Jerry, before I let you go this morning,
- 8:47Speaker 1: I've loved going beyond the bear and align with you.
- 8:50Speaker 1: But before I let you go. Cycling path there's calls
- 8:53Speaker 1: to extend the cycling path, isn't there?
- 8:55Speaker 2: Oh yes, well you know so far it's taken a
- 8:57Speaker 2: long time, think about thirty years to get the bicycle
- 9:00Speaker 2: down the old railway line from Darwen to now cool Inger.
- 9:04Speaker 2: I'm always said, well, look, you know, when we need
- 9:07Speaker 2: to preserve that line. One way to preserve it is
- 9:09Speaker 2: to continue with as a cycle path. Now we can
- 9:11Speaker 2: get the cycle path at least to get down to
- 9:13Speaker 2: Dunamar and out branch off to the Artum Highway, because
- 9:17Speaker 2: there's already a cycle path on the out of my way.
- 9:19Speaker 2: That would be a fantastic thing to the tourists. You
- 9:22Speaker 2: can go down and have lunch at the Unamar Pub,
- 9:24Speaker 2: you can go out and have one of the home
- 9:26Speaker 2: to the cabin or to the public. You can also
- 9:28Speaker 2: go to cool Inger. There's plenty of places there. Look.
- 9:33Speaker 2: I use it regularly every morning and on the weekends.
- 9:37Speaker 2: Amazing number of people are using it walking, riding, you
- 9:40Speaker 2: get the like a brigade slide, fasting, you get just
- 9:45Speaker 2: lots of people using it, keeping fit. But there's also
- 9:48Speaker 2: lots of tourists using it. And the thing is the
- 9:50Speaker 2: government has spent a lot of money on a mountain
- 9:52Speaker 2: boat pass I think down in Central Australia, which is fantastic.
- 9:56Speaker 2: They also ought to be looking at perhaps having a
- 9:58Speaker 2: mountain boat trail going from munamart right down through Bachelor
- 10:01Speaker 2: to Adelaide River, and that would be great too. Would
- 10:04Speaker 2: be preserving the the railway line, the history of it,
- 10:09Speaker 2: but also encouraging people to look at the history of
- 10:12Speaker 2: that area right through from run Jungle to Bachelor and
- 10:15Speaker 2: to Adelaide River as well.
- 10:16Speaker 1: Well, Jerry would It is always good to catch up
- 10:19Speaker 1: with you. You're going to have to go beyond the bear
- 10:20Speaker 1: of the line with us again in a few weeks,
- 10:22Speaker 1: I reckon. I think a lot of our listeners be
- 10:24Speaker 1: very happy to hear you back on the radio.
- 10:27Speaker 2: It's okay, I'll go back to watching the dishes.
- 10:31Speaker 1: Good on you, Jerry. Always good to catch up mate.
- 10:36Speaker 1: Thanks so much for your time this morning.
- 10:38Speaker 2: Than see