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Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, January 27 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, Yes, Thursday, January. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.
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Speaker 1: And now when questioned about the overtime rules, he said, dude,
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Speaker 1: I'm salary. J pce Rick. Yeah, that's a new meeting
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Speaker 1: for free football and welcome in. It's Jaguars Happy Hour
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Speaker 1: from the home office today. J P. Shadrick with you.
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Speaker 1: It's our first show back since the Monday after the
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Speaker 1: regular season, and really nothing's changed since then. There's been
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Speaker 1: a lot of tweeting and reporting going on, but the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars are still without a head coach at this moment.
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Speaker 1: We'll get into that coming up. Busy show, of course,
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Speaker 1: on a day like today, the coaching carousels spinning. A
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Speaker 1: couple of teams around the league have secured their new
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Speaker 1: head coach and looting a couple of teams that had
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Speaker 1: Jaguar candidates that were hired, the Bears and the Broncos.
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Speaker 1: Will get to that coming up. The Jaguars search continues.
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Speaker 1: There's not a lot of there's a lot of reporting
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Speaker 1: coming out, but you know who's really close to the situation,
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Speaker 1: There aren't many. We'll say that. CBS Sports senior writer
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Speaker 1: Pete Frisco. We'll hear from Pete get his thoughts on
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Speaker 1: what's going on. I'm sure he has a few. Jaguars
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Speaker 1: dot Com senior writer John Ozier joins us to give
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Speaker 1: us his perspective on what has happened or what is
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Speaker 1: happening for the Jaguars, and we'll hear from the NFL
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Speaker 1: Network analyst Bucky Brooks. He's out in Los Angeles, the
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Speaker 1: Collegiate Bowl coming up. He'll have a Shrine Bowl coverage
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Speaker 1: coming up next week as well. He'll be very busy,
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Speaker 1: of course, And that is our show ahead so well.
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Speaker 1: Since we last convened, that was the Monday after the
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Speaker 1: regular season. That was on Jaguars Happy Hour Prisco and Busselli.
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Speaker 1: We recapped the final win of the season, the the
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Speaker 1: possibility of what could happen in the coaching search at
2:06
Speaker 1: that point. Since then, according to all the reports that
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Speaker 1: you've read and seen on social media, the Jaguars have
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Speaker 1: gone through the interview process. They have gone through it
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Speaker 1: twice with a few different candidates. Now and what a
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Speaker 1: few days it's been, of course on social media, some
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Speaker 1: ups and downs, there was some changes, some plot twists,
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Speaker 1: um you know, to to well a couple of days
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Speaker 1: ago now Byron Left, which was apparently gonna be the
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Speaker 1: guy and was the slam dunk and all this, and
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Speaker 1: then that changed in an overnight period too. Maybe need
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Speaker 1: Hacketts coming for a second interview. Then the Broncos took
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Speaker 1: action and signed up Nathaniel Hackett, the former Jaguars offensive coordinator,
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Speaker 1: as their head coach. Matt ever Flus is now with
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Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears. He had been in the process with
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars as well, and now it kind of was back.
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Speaker 1: If you follow the tweets and the reports today, it's
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Speaker 1: Byron Left, which back in the fold and reports today
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Speaker 1: out of Arizona that Left, which would be the coach,
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Speaker 1: and Aaron Wilson would be GM. Well, the Jags have
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Speaker 1: a GM right now. Trent Balky is the general manager.
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Speaker 1: That's a report as of earlier today. Vic Fangio's name
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Speaker 1: was thrown in the mix earlier today as well, the
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Speaker 1: former Broncos coach of course, but later believed at least
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Speaker 1: reported to be believed to be for a potential defensive
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Speaker 1: coordinator role. So all this is going on at the
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Speaker 1: same time. All this is happening now the Saints have
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Speaker 1: requested to talk with Left, which so who who really
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Speaker 1: knows how many are really close to this thing. That's
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Speaker 1: a small group. But I haven't the name we haven't
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Speaker 1: heard in a while either as Jim Caldwell. That was
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Speaker 1: an early name in the process, and after that first
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Speaker 1: go round really haven't heard much out of him. His
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Speaker 1: name was in the hunt, I believe in Chicago, but
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Speaker 1: since the Bears have made that move for Ebra, Fleus
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Speaker 1: is coldwell back in play. At some point there here,
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Speaker 1: Flush and Byron left, which everybody that has been a
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Speaker 1: jagg Arsan for a long time of court, of course,
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Speaker 1: understands and knows his history around here. Forty two years
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Speaker 1: of age. He took some time off after he played
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Speaker 1: and then got into coaching. Left which did as a
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Speaker 1: coaching intern with the Arizona Cardinals and then latched on
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Speaker 1: as an assistant there the quarterbacks coach one season. The
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Speaker 1: next year he was the QB coach, and then the
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Speaker 1: O C got whacked, so he took over the interromoc duties.
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Speaker 1: Then the whole staff got whacked. After that season, he
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Speaker 1: ended up in Tampa Bay with Arians, of course, and
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Speaker 1: Jamis Winston under his watch as the offensive coordinator through
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Speaker 1: for over five thousand yards. Also through thirty interceptions that year,
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Speaker 1: but he did throw for over five thousand yards. Then
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Speaker 1: of course the last two seasons with Tom Brady as
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Speaker 1: the quarterback in Tampa Bay. So it's been as the
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Speaker 1: years have gone along, you've heard his name pop up
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Speaker 1: in some of these discussions as a possible head coach candidate.
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Speaker 1: But it feels like this is really the first off
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Speaker 1: season at least that he has been um, you know,
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Speaker 1: interviewed and maybe a few teams trying to talk to him.
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Speaker 1: So I will see where this one goes. And you know,
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Speaker 1: if you look at Twitter and follow the fan base
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Speaker 1: there on board with Byron Leftwich so far. Um, you know,
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Speaker 1: obviously was drafted here two thousand and three and spent
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Speaker 1: four seasons here into the fifth off season, but then
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Speaker 1: it was cut right at the start of the season
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Speaker 1: in two thousand seven, went on to a couple of
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Speaker 1: different stints with the Steelers, and you know, it didn't
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Speaker 1: have the greatest success in his time here statistically, it
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Speaker 1: was banged up a little bit as well, and moved
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Speaker 1: on to other things in his career as as his
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Speaker 1: career moved on, and then, as we said, once his
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Speaker 1: career ended, it was a few a few years off,
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Speaker 1: played a lot of golf, he set in an interview
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Speaker 1: not that long ago, and was up in d C
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Speaker 1: and doing all that thing, and then decided to get
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Speaker 1: back in coaching, and it has been a quick run
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Speaker 1: um to the doorstep at least of a head coaching
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Speaker 1: position in the NFL. What a story it would be,
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Speaker 1: obviously for a guy from inner City Washington, d C.
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Speaker 1: To work his way up from there as a young
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Speaker 1: kid and then get to go to college at Marshall
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Speaker 1: had a fantastic collegiate career there, of course was a
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Speaker 1: first ground pick all that happened as a player, and
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Speaker 1: then work his way up to coaching ranks again. If
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Speaker 1: he somehow does get the Jaguars or another head coaching
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Speaker 1: gig in the NFL, what a story that would be
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Speaker 1: to complete for Byron Leftwich. So we'll see the conversations
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Speaker 1: apparently continue will We're following Twitter just as you are,
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Speaker 1: just to see if anything pops up, any new reports,
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Speaker 1: But as of right now, there's nothing that knew this afternoon,
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Speaker 1: But we'll see. I mean, I think there's gonna be
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Speaker 1: a lot of talk we'll hear from Pete Prisco coming
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Speaker 1: up and John Osier and Bucky and and those guys
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Speaker 1: and get their thoughts on this. But the timing so far,
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Speaker 1: there's been a lot made of the Jaguars being really
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Speaker 1: the second team to fire their head coach this year.
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Speaker 1: Of course, the Raiders were the first, but they had
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Speaker 1: the interim coach in there, and they were on a
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Speaker 1: playoff run, so they weren't worried about at least trying
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Speaker 1: to get jump started early in the process. Well, the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars had that two extra weeks to try to talk
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Speaker 1: to candidates who are in the National Football League. I
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Speaker 1: don't know, at least from one perspective, the Eberfluce perspective, Well,
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars are playing the Colts in one of those
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Speaker 1: weeks in the season, so uh, he requested to move
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Speaker 1: it back a little further. So you know, there there
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Speaker 1: were nine openings at the end of the day the
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Speaker 1: other day when Sean Payton stepped down in New Orleans.
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Speaker 1: Now with two field there are seven open So yeah,
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Speaker 1: they're not the first team to hire. I'm gonna guess
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Speaker 1: they probably won't be the last team to hire. I
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Speaker 1: think the timing is what it is. I don't I don't.
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Speaker 1: I just don't think you have to rush this thing,
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Speaker 1: and I certainly don't think Shot Khan is worried about
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Speaker 1: rushing it. He wants to get it right. I felt
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Speaker 1: like he did before he did and it didn't work out, obviously,
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Speaker 1: So doing the due diligence, doubling up on some interviews,
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Speaker 1: taking the time to do that, I think is what's
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Speaker 1: happening right now. That's why it's January at the moment,
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Speaker 1: and there's no head coach. We're all looking at that
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Speaker 1: chimney though for the white smoke to come out to
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Speaker 1: see if there's a new head coach, and we'll see
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Speaker 1: it's uh, it'll be um, you know, it could be today,
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Speaker 1: it could be uh, any time in the air, next
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Speaker 1: week or two. I mean, there's really not a huge
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Speaker 1: rush in this thing, but you do want to get
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Speaker 1: it in place in time to go find those assistant coaches,
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Speaker 1: figure out who's on staff now. You want to keep
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Speaker 1: around obviously because they're all still under contract and in
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Speaker 1: the building and working and doing things. But um, the
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Speaker 1: quicker you can figure that thing out, then you can
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Speaker 1: move forward to free agency and and figure out what
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Speaker 1: the building is really gonna feel like and and look
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Speaker 1: like so um, no new news to report, but plenty
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Speaker 1: to discuss. Of course, we are off and running on
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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour. We will come back in just a moment,
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Speaker 1: and here from CBS Sports senior writer Pete Prisco. He's
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Speaker 1: our co host on Monday's during the season. He was
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Speaker 1: on our last show since we've been on air. So
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Speaker 1: we will hear from Pete and get his perspective of
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Speaker 1: what's happened for the Jaguars and all of the news
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Speaker 1: and tweets over the last forty eight hours. A little later,
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Speaker 1: John Oz, youre Jaguars dot Com senior writer, and we'll
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Speaker 1: hear from Bucky Brooks, NFL network analysts. We are often
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Speaker 1: running as jaguar is Happy Hour on a Thursday afternoon
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Speaker 1: on the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy
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Speaker 1: Hour on Thursday afternoon, our first show since the day
10:17
Speaker 1: after the regular season. J P. Shadrick from the home office.
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Speaker 1: Some close contact issue. Nothing bad over here. I hope
10:25
Speaker 1: everybody's doing well. Glad you're back with us. Of course,
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Speaker 1: a lot going on for the Jaguars. Coaching search continues.
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Speaker 1: It's been a busy couple of weeks on social media.
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Speaker 1: It's really heated up over the last couple of days.
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Speaker 1: It feels like, let's check in with CBS Sports senior
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Speaker 1: writer Pete Prisco, He joins us now over the phone. Pete,
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Speaker 1: good afternoon to you. What's up man? What's up? J
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Speaker 1: p JP. You're like a close contact, like every two day,
10:50
Speaker 1: I thank you day. We're notfice. Hey, I don't know, man.
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Speaker 1: The rules are the rules, Pete. That's what it is.
11:02
Speaker 1: I know, I know better safe than sorry. I know,
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Speaker 1: I get it. I understand. Yeah, that's what it is.
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Speaker 1: Just can't go in the building, but I can do
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Speaker 1: everything else. So and feeling okay, So that's a good thing. So, uh,
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Speaker 1: there are not a lot of jazz fans feeling okay
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Speaker 1: right now with everything has happened over the last two days,
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Speaker 1: three days or so. It is. Um, it's a carousel
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Speaker 1: spinning on this tweet deck thing that I'm looking at
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Speaker 1: right now, Pete, And um, what's the latest you? What
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Speaker 1: is this left? Which thing going to happen or what?
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Speaker 1: Here's what I have to say to everybody. Just calm down,
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Speaker 1: Let's let the whole process play out. I mean, it's
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Speaker 1: just you know, everybody looked I love Byra Leftwich Is
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Speaker 1: he's one of my favorite guys I've ever been around.
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Speaker 1: Is it relates to that team. And when he was there,
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Speaker 1: he took a beating from the public. Um. You know,
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Speaker 1: it was never the quarterback. Everybody thought he would be
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Speaker 1: great human being, handled himselves with class, always did that,
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Speaker 1: worked his butt off, and I think he'd be a
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Speaker 1: hell of a coach for this the organization. But let's
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Speaker 1: let it play out. There's a thing called negotiation. I mean,
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Speaker 1: that's what they're doing. They're negotiating. And you know, it's funny.
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Speaker 1: Nate Hackett goes to Denver and all of a sudden,
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Speaker 1: everybody in Jacksonville's all up in arms. Oh my god,
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Speaker 1: they let him get away that Now what how many
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Speaker 1: of those same people were sitting in those stands ripping
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Speaker 1: Nate Hackett when he was the offensive cordator back in
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Speaker 1: the day. You know, So just let it play out,
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Speaker 1: let it see what happens, and uh, ultimately they'll get
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Speaker 1: the guy that they think is the right guy. I
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Speaker 1: don't think any of the guys that they, you know,
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Speaker 1: thought was the right guy, they would have had them already.
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Speaker 1: And that's how I feel. I think they would have
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Speaker 1: locked them up. So let it play out. As far
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Speaker 1: as Trent Fawlky in the building, would I have him
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Speaker 1: in the building? No? What I have kept them around
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Speaker 1: for part of the process, absolutely, because you needed somebody
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Speaker 1: to ask the football questions that made all the sense
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Speaker 1: in the world. Now, whether he's there for the long run,
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Speaker 1: that's to be determined. I wouldn't keep him there for
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Speaker 1: the long run. Uh, ultimately maybe they won't. But but
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Speaker 1: let the process play out. They have to, you know,
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Speaker 1: they have to go shiate with whoever they are bringing
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Speaker 1: in there. Obviously today that the Saints apparently asked to
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Speaker 1: speak with Left which as well, um, and then so
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Speaker 1: that opens up another thing of negotiation and all that.
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Speaker 1: It's kind of what happened in Denver right here, Hey,
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Speaker 1: Hacketts about to go interview for a second time with Jacksonville.
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Speaker 1: We need to get this thing done in Denver, and
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Speaker 1: they got Nate Hackett done. Let's see if the kind
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Speaker 1: of move some things here. If if for some reason,
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Speaker 1: Left Which is not in play, where do they go? Well,
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Speaker 1: I would go back to Jim Caldwell. That's where I
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Speaker 1: would go. Um, I know Jim Caldwell is not a
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Speaker 1: young man. He's sixty six years old. But he's a
13:38
Speaker 1: perfect guy to bring me to that building. I think
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Speaker 1: he would have. He is the right demeanor. He's great
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Speaker 1: with quarterbacks. Go back and look at his track record.
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Speaker 1: He's been outstanding with quarterbacks, developing them, coaching them the
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Speaker 1: whole process and any and he's a good man and
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Speaker 1: I think that would be welcomed inside that building. So
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Speaker 1: I would look for him. Um, you know, as far
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Speaker 1: as you know the stuff that Fangio, I don't get
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Speaker 1: that much. You're bringing them in as the defensive coordinator
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Speaker 1: if you do hire Byron, and I don't know if
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Speaker 1: Byron and Bcanro have much of relationship. And I don't
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Speaker 1: ever want to see a force a coach to hire
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Speaker 1: somebody he doesn't want, So that wouldn't be a good
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Speaker 1: situation unless he wanted them there. But I think they
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Speaker 1: you know, they start, they go back. There's a lot
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Speaker 1: of good coaches out there. You gotta get the right one.
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Speaker 1: And I always go back to the when the Eagles
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Speaker 1: hired hired Sirianni. Everybody panned it. Everybody did, Oh how
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Speaker 1: they waited They got the worst guy. We had a
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Speaker 1: pretty dunk good rookie for first year with the with
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Speaker 1: the Eagles, didn't he So get the right guy. And
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Speaker 1: and here's one one other thing, this whole idea that
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Speaker 1: the guy you hire has to be a great play caller,
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Speaker 1: great defensive coordinator. I never have bought into that. You
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Speaker 1: know why, j P guy who's going to manage the people,
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Speaker 1: manage the coaches, let the coaches coach, and have a
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Speaker 1: good culture in the building. You don't need to have
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Speaker 1: a guy whos an x is and those guys, I
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Speaker 1: mean John Harbaugh isn't, Mike Tomlin isn't. I mean, you
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Speaker 1: can have a guy who's just a darn good coach
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Speaker 1: who let's just coach his coach. And that's I mean,
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Speaker 1: especially for this organization right now. I mean that they're
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Speaker 1: in desperate need of a retooling of of what it
15:17
Speaker 1: is to be a Jaguar, right and and the organization
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Speaker 1: as a whole. So, yeah, you can have some of
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Speaker 1: the dolls up plays and all that, but you need
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Speaker 1: a bigger picture. Look at this thing. It feels like, yes,
15:30
Speaker 1: you definitely do. And I look, you can go back
15:33
Speaker 1: to um when when the Urban Meyer was a coach
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Speaker 1: who didn't have any excelling those but he wasn't a
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Speaker 1: good those guys and that backfired on it. So it
15:42
Speaker 1: didn't work out. But that doesn't mean you can't go
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Speaker 1: get the right guy to lead, to lead the coaches
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Speaker 1: and let them coach again. Um. I think there's people
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Speaker 1: out there. I mean Jim called what will be one
15:51
Speaker 1: of them. I think Jim called well would probably hire
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Speaker 1: a guy to call plays. I don't necessarily know that
15:55
Speaker 1: he would call plays again, but he would be an
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Speaker 1: overseer inside the building and that would work. So if
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Speaker 1: you don't get Byron, I think that's what you have
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Speaker 1: to do, go back to the drawing board. Find another
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Speaker 1: guy there. There are a lot of good coaches out
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Speaker 1: there who are begging for an opportunity to lead. I
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Speaker 1: think that if you get a guy you can you
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Speaker 1: can make it work. It just has to be the
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Speaker 1: right guy. And oh, by the way, you need the quarterback.
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Speaker 1: State hack it. If State hack it doesn't get Aaron
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Speaker 1: Rodgers or doesn't solve the quarterback position, you're not gonna
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Speaker 1: be around it Denver very long. But Jacksonville, you know
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Speaker 1: you have the quarterback. You have Trevor Lawrence, and that
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Speaker 1: should be an attraction that should make that job something
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Speaker 1: that most people want. I personally, JP would have hired
16:34
Speaker 1: a for a guy with a forty Niners you know, uh,
16:37
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan background. And the reason I say that, I
16:40
Speaker 1: think that offense would be perfect, perfect for Trevor Lawrence.
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Speaker 1: You run the ball, you get his own read, you
16:46
Speaker 1: get him on the move, you make plays. Uh. That way,
16:49
Speaker 1: you sneak out the tight end, just like the forty
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Speaker 1: Niners always doing. They gotta fight a tight end, but
16:53
Speaker 1: you can do that. Dan Arnold can be a good
16:55
Speaker 1: tight end. They need another one. But I just think
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Speaker 1: there's ways around it. So if you don't get Byron,
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Speaker 1: there are other coaches out there, go find the right one.
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Speaker 1: Pete Prisco with a CBS Sports senior writer. As for
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Speaker 1: the timing of this, Pete, we mentioned it earlier before
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Speaker 1: you came on. I mean, the Jaguars were the second
17:11
Speaker 1: team to fire their head coach this season. Of course,
17:14
Speaker 1: the Raiders were the first. They had the interim, They
17:16
Speaker 1: were in the playoff race and got in the postseason
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Speaker 1: and then so they weren't worried about that two week window.
17:21
Speaker 1: The Jaguars had the two week window to work with
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Speaker 1: and now they are not the first to hire the
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Speaker 1: Bears and the Broncos apparently have. Are you concerned at
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Speaker 1: all at the timing of this? I mean, how quickly
17:34
Speaker 1: do you need to get this raft up? Obviously you
17:37
Speaker 1: want the right higher and the right person in the
17:39
Speaker 1: right field and everything that goes around it. Um, But
17:43
Speaker 1: at some point does the clock start ticking to go
17:46
Speaker 1: find some of these assistant coaches? Well, the clocks ticking
17:49
Speaker 1: now because the senior goals next week. And I think
17:52
Speaker 1: that's important for your staff, Your coach, whoever it is,
17:55
Speaker 1: has to be there, has to be around, has to
17:57
Speaker 1: be able to go see players. I think, you know,
17:59
Speaker 1: that's the that's the marquee All Star game. That's when
18:01
Speaker 1: you start evaluating the guy, really evaluate the guys in
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Speaker 1: the draft up close, getting to see him plactice and play.
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Speaker 1: And so yeah, I think it's important by next week,
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Speaker 1: and and I think they'll do it in the next
18:12
Speaker 1: couple of days. You know. Here's the other thing, and
18:14
Speaker 1: I'm gonna remind people of this. When Tom Coughlin was hired,
18:18
Speaker 1: that wasn't exactly a warm and fuzzy hiring met by
18:21
Speaker 1: a lot of people in that city or elsewhere. He
18:24
Speaker 1: was a college coach at d C who had had
18:26
Speaker 1: some time in the National Football League. They tried the
18:29
Speaker 1: land a big fish, Jimmy Johnson. They I mean they
18:32
Speaker 1: met with him on a boat down in Fort Lauderdale
18:35
Speaker 1: and tried to get Jimmy Johnson away from the Cowboys.
18:37
Speaker 1: And the league found out about it and get there
18:39
Speaker 1: was some talk of a tampering charge. They went after
18:42
Speaker 1: Tony Dungee. They had a bunch of other guys. Tom
18:44
Speaker 1: Coughlin was not a guy that was a marquee guy.
18:47
Speaker 1: That worked out pretty well for him and he's a
18:50
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame coach in my mind. And so you
18:52
Speaker 1: get the right guy, you don't have to rush it,
18:54
Speaker 1: take your time, get the right guy, but get it
18:56
Speaker 1: before Monday because Senior Bowl stars. Yeah, that's right. Practice
19:00
Speaker 1: is Are you gonna be in the Senior Bowl peat? No,
19:02
Speaker 1: we have a couple other guys going our draft guy
19:04
Speaker 1: goes ever. I used to go all the time. I
19:06
Speaker 1: enjoyed it back in the day. I remember one time
19:10
Speaker 1: when this is a good story called back in the day,
19:14
Speaker 1: used to be able to get right in the middle
19:15
Speaker 1: of the drills on the field of media could too,
19:18
Speaker 1: and so Coughlin and his scouting guy Rick Reapers were
19:20
Speaker 1: watching linebacker drills after they had just gotten I think
19:23
Speaker 1: beat by the Titans um and that year and and
19:28
Speaker 1: so Al Wilson went on to be a really good
19:30
Speaker 1: player with the Denver Broncos. Was a linebacker for the
19:33
Speaker 1: from the University of Tennessee. And he thumped the guy
19:35
Speaker 1: in a one on one drill and I walked over
19:37
Speaker 1: and I go, seeing, that's the way a linebacker is
19:39
Speaker 1: supposed to play. The Conflin looked at me, threw me
19:41
Speaker 1: off of the day, and I love it. I love it. So, yeah,
19:48
Speaker 1: we'll miss you there. We're gonna be over there at
19:49
Speaker 1: least for planning to unless there's some coaching announcement or something.
19:54
Speaker 1: Next week we're planning on going to cover the Senior Bowls.
19:57
Speaker 1: So do you ever do you ever go to the
19:59
Speaker 1: used to have to see food? You believe that they
20:01
Speaker 1: still have that. I think they still do, but it's
20:04
Speaker 1: so early in the week, we're not gonna make it
20:06
Speaker 1: to that. Unfortunately. That was always that was always the
20:08
Speaker 1: best thing for the Sieger Bowl because all the coaches
20:12
Speaker 1: were there and you had you know, everybody was having
20:14
Speaker 1: a few cocktails and he got a little loose and
20:16
Speaker 1: lips got loose, and I remember me and John O'shan
20:19
Speaker 1: can tell his story too, and they were cost and
20:22
Speaker 1: started like directing the woman on how to put the
20:25
Speaker 1: plates up for the booper fare or something. So it's crazy.
20:29
Speaker 1: Of course he did. Of course he did well, Pete.
20:32
Speaker 1: Thanks for the insight. We appreciate your time as always,
20:34
Speaker 1: Van and let's see I mean, we'll see you the
20:37
Speaker 1: next few days. Holds, do you think lax Jax and
20:40
Speaker 1: Bill relax? You'll get a guy and he's gonna probably
20:43
Speaker 1: be a good coach. I mean, it's just because you
20:45
Speaker 1: don't know who he is. If you don't get Biro. Look,
20:47
Speaker 1: I want Byron there as much as anybody. I love firing,
20:50
Speaker 1: But if you don't get him, you go find another guy.
20:51
Speaker 1: It's not the end of the world. You get the
20:53
Speaker 1: right guy. It's football, Pete. Like I always said, Hey,
20:58
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean was a pr intern in uh In Carolina
21:02
Speaker 1: and he came within a whisker getting his team to
21:05
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl this year, and he picked Josh Allen.
21:08
Speaker 1: So I mean, it's it's just you know you can,
21:10
Speaker 1: you can make this thing work. Thanks for the time. Pete,
21:13
Speaker 1: we'll talk to you soon. Pete Presco, CBS Sports Senior writer,
21:19
Speaker 1: joining us here on Jaguar's Happy Hour. And yeah, so
21:23
Speaker 1: just patients, calm down. That's that's Pete's message, which is interesting.
21:29
Speaker 1: You know, he's a lot of times a little more
21:33
Speaker 1: kind of, hey, let's get this thing done. And I
21:35
Speaker 1: think he's probably got a little tinger that still. But
21:38
Speaker 1: but be patient. There's time. There's not a huge rush. Yeah,
21:42
Speaker 1: you want to kind of get something going though, as
21:45
Speaker 1: he said, the Senior Bowls coming up next week, that's
21:47
Speaker 1: when you have a chance to see a lot of
21:50
Speaker 1: coaches in person and sit down and do some interviews.
21:53
Speaker 1: If you want to add some people to your staff,
21:55
Speaker 1: that's a good place to do it. And in fact,
21:58
Speaker 1: there are coaches from all level the football show up
22:01
Speaker 1: with this thing for a week and go to the
22:02
Speaker 1: practices and hang out at the bars around the hotel
22:05
Speaker 1: downtown and all that stuff. And so it is a
22:09
Speaker 1: true the first real big offseason NFL event. There are
22:13
Speaker 1: a couple other games, of course, like the Collegiate Bowls
22:15
Speaker 1: this week in l A. The Shrine Bowl is next week.
22:18
Speaker 1: It used to be in St. Pete. It's now in
22:21
Speaker 1: Las Vegas this year, and those are two that kind
22:24
Speaker 1: of come ahead of it, but the Senior Bowl is
22:27
Speaker 1: the the one that's the that's the big one of
22:30
Speaker 1: the off season. And actually little note some here in
22:33
Speaker 1: Jacksonville might remember this of a certain age range, but
22:38
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl actually started in Jacksonville. It was here
22:41
Speaker 1: for a couple of years before it moved to Mobile.
22:43
Speaker 1: It's like fifty years ago at least, and it's been
22:46
Speaker 1: in Mobile ever since. A couple of years ago they
22:48
Speaker 1: opened up a new stadium on the campus of the
22:50
Speaker 1: University of South Alabama and that's where the game and
22:53
Speaker 1: the practices are held. Now, more on that coming up.
22:56
Speaker 1: We'll here from John Osier in just a moment, Jaguars
22:58
Speaker 1: dot com senior writer. We'll get his thoughts on what's
23:01
Speaker 1: happening with the Jags over the last few days and
23:03
Speaker 1: the coaching search and what the next steps could be
23:08
Speaker 1: for the Jacksonville Jaguars, and a little later, Bucky Brooks,
23:11
Speaker 1: NFL network analysts joining us. This is Jaguars Happy Hour
23:15
Speaker 1: on the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back, It's Jaguars Happy
23:23
Speaker 1: Hour and if you're watching on Jaguars dot Com or
23:26
Speaker 1: Jack's social media channels. You are looking at the footprint
23:32
Speaker 1: of the Football Performance Center. They have started taking things down.
23:40
Speaker 1: The process has started. The bleachers are gone, part of
23:46
Speaker 1: the gate of the players parking lot is now gone.
23:48
Speaker 1: That's how wide this thing is going to be when
23:50
Speaker 1: it's done. The Football Performance Center footprint, the the they
23:54
Speaker 1: have started to disassemble some things and it's apparently going
23:59
Speaker 1: to be open for business. The team will move in
24:02
Speaker 1: for it, so right before training camps. That's the ideal
24:05
Speaker 1: time summer of not of course this season, so they'll
24:10
Speaker 1: need this season and they'll have to make some some
24:13
Speaker 1: plans to do some of the offseason workouts in other areas.
24:17
Speaker 1: My guests would be that indoor um on the south
24:20
Speaker 1: end of the stadium at Daily's Place, and maybe even
24:22
Speaker 1: on the on the t I A Bank Field surface
24:27
Speaker 1: and then training camp. Who knows, well, that's a little
24:29
Speaker 1: for far down the road, but they'll have to make
24:31
Speaker 1: some arrangements there with the construction underway. So that's good news.
24:36
Speaker 1: Welcome back, It's Jaguars Happy our j P. Shadrick with
24:39
Speaker 1: you from the home office today. Due to close contact
24:42
Speaker 1: tracing all as well, though John Osan joining us over
24:46
Speaker 1: the phone now Jaguars dot Com senior writer and a
24:49
Speaker 1: good afternoon, John. What's up man? Yeah, I'm not close
24:53
Speaker 1: contact JP, but yeah we talked today, so maybe I'll
24:57
Speaker 1: will be who knows in this crazy world, right who?
24:59
Speaker 1: It's Yeah, things happened in an instant, so, um, who knows.
25:04
Speaker 1: You know. Hey, we're feeling okay over here, so that's fine. Um,
25:07
Speaker 1: I'll let you know if it goes the other way though.
25:10
Speaker 1: Um So all right, there's a lot going on, John,
25:13
Speaker 1: Obviously most of it's in behind closed doors. I think
25:17
Speaker 1: that this is there where social media and things have
25:19
Speaker 1: changed the whole reporting structure of the league and everything
25:24
Speaker 1: that goes on in this time period. This is stuff
25:26
Speaker 1: you never really heard or thought about, um really because
25:31
Speaker 1: you it never really came out behind closed doors. All
25:34
Speaker 1: the negotiating and back and forth and posturing and go
25:38
Speaker 1: and interview other places and all that. That's I would think,
25:42
Speaker 1: at least a relatively new phenomena in the NFL. I'm
25:46
Speaker 1: gonna guess in nineteen seventy eight, you didn't follow this
25:48
Speaker 1: kind of coaching search like you do now. Yeah. Well,
25:52
Speaker 1: fortunately I was not covering the league yet. Yeah, I
25:56
Speaker 1: was still a couple of decades away. I can tell
25:59
Speaker 1: you in people who don't know, I covered the Jags
26:03
Speaker 1: for US six seven years for the newspaper, and then
26:06
Speaker 1: I went to the Colts for ten years inside, and
26:08
Speaker 1: now I've been with the Jaguars sort of inside, you know,
26:12
Speaker 1: so two decades inside seven in the newspaper games h
26:16
Speaker 1: certainly in the nineties and up until ten years ago,
26:20
Speaker 1: everything like this. You would hear things like this, like
26:25
Speaker 1: what you hear on Twitter, but it would be written
26:28
Speaker 1: in the next day's newspaper story every day, so there
26:31
Speaker 1: was time to sort through it. There was time too
26:36
Speaker 1: if you heard something maybe make two calls, which used
26:39
Speaker 1: to be the old thing. If you had two sources,
26:43
Speaker 1: you probably would run it. If you had three, definitely,
26:45
Speaker 1: so there was more time at that point for making
26:49
Speaker 1: sure you were right. It would still be nice to
26:52
Speaker 1: make sure you're right in this day and age, but
26:54
Speaker 1: it's harder because you know, everything's out there, everything is
26:57
Speaker 1: getting retweeted. Everything looks the same in terms of legitimacy,
27:03
Speaker 1: so it's it's hard things get reported and it's hard
27:07
Speaker 1: to know what's real, what's fact, what speculation? What I
27:12
Speaker 1: heard this and it's really close uh awording comes into play,
27:17
Speaker 1: how something's worded and then it gets picked apart. So
27:21
Speaker 1: all the internet flues. Um, it's a wild wild West.
27:26
Speaker 1: And I don't know that's going to change because social media.
27:29
Speaker 1: Is it better or worse, I don't know, but it's
27:31
Speaker 1: it's it's so much different as to be unrecognizable as
27:37
Speaker 1: part of the news cycle. Now. I mean, we know
27:39
Speaker 1: that the day after the season, it's Black Monday and
27:41
Speaker 1: they're gonna fire a bunch of people, and there's this.
27:45
Speaker 1: You know, this offseason there have been nine openings to
27:48
Speaker 1: have been filled, and that's it's. It seems like a
27:51
Speaker 1: higher number than normal, but that's just kind of part
27:54
Speaker 1: of the flow of the NFL offseason. Now is the
27:56
Speaker 1: first month figuring out who's coaching where in the new places.
28:00
Speaker 1: Unfortunately that Jaguars have had to do that a little
28:02
Speaker 1: bit too much as of late. Um, you know, all
28:06
Speaker 1: the fans John, or most of them, at least the ones,
28:08
Speaker 1: the vocal ones on social media are all about Byron Leftwitch. So, um,
28:14
Speaker 1: where are you with Byron Leftwitch? You know, I said,
28:18
Speaker 1: since this process started, I've fortunate enough and I stay
28:23
Speaker 1: fortunately because I like both men. I'm fortunate enough to
28:26
Speaker 1: know Nate Hackett fairly well and no Jim calledwell very
28:31
Speaker 1: very well. So when their names were mentioned, I talked
28:34
Speaker 1: very positively to them because I know what they're about.
28:37
Speaker 1: Your natural tendency is to uh get to do that.
28:42
Speaker 1: A lot of people are on the Jaguars new buyer
28:44
Speaker 1: and a lot of people in Jaguars media knew him
28:46
Speaker 1: and fans had a connection to him. I've covered him
28:49
Speaker 1: maybe eight times uh in games, watching him play with
28:54
Speaker 1: the Colt or watching play against the Colt. Uh. And
28:58
Speaker 1: I have talked in a lot of a few weeks
29:00
Speaker 1: to some players. Uh. You know, I talked to Jimmy
29:04
Speaker 1: Fred that uh, Brad Meester, guys who knew him very well,
29:09
Speaker 1: and some other people in the building knew him very well,
29:11
Speaker 1: and they say nothing but incredibly positive things about JP.
29:16
Speaker 1: Unfortunately for you, you you have to read me every day
29:18
Speaker 1: in the O zone, so you know that the things
29:21
Speaker 1: I value in a head coach, I don't care that
29:23
Speaker 1: much about x as and ohs. But give me a
29:25
Speaker 1: guy who's the leader, who players will believe in, who
29:30
Speaker 1: can set a tone, who is a smart guy, who
29:33
Speaker 1: can handle the day to day of the NFL job. Uh,
29:38
Speaker 1: that's what I've been asking people about with Byron, and
29:41
Speaker 1: it's it's to check every box, absolutely above average, fantastic
29:47
Speaker 1: fit for those things. Uh So I think it would
29:51
Speaker 1: be exciting. The fans seem to want it. So all
29:55
Speaker 1: those things are in place, Now does it work out
29:59
Speaker 1: the shot eventu ata say this is the right fit
30:02
Speaker 1: for a merit of reasons, I don't know, but you know,
30:06
Speaker 1: I don't think there's many bad choices that certainly seems
30:09
Speaker 1: like Byron left, which would be an absolutely great choice
30:11
Speaker 1: that people want. So let's see. I mean, I don't
30:15
Speaker 1: know how much more to say than that, because we
30:17
Speaker 1: don't know what's going to happen. Yeah, And obviously a
30:20
Speaker 1: couple of the other names that were um I had
30:23
Speaker 1: already interviewed with the Jaguar as a time or two.
30:26
Speaker 1: He Refluce had done it twice already. The report that
30:28
Speaker 1: Hackett was coming back was enough to send the Broncos
30:32
Speaker 1: back into the table and they made that deal done
30:35
Speaker 1: with Hackett. So with those those are really the two
30:37
Speaker 1: other big names as of late that were reported with
30:41
Speaker 1: the Jags that you had seen that first wave of interviews.
30:43
Speaker 1: Haven't heard Caldwell's name in a little while, though, John,
30:46
Speaker 1: I'm curious because his name was reported with Chicago, but
30:49
Speaker 1: now that one's filled. Yeah, and again, I I knew
30:54
Speaker 1: Jim well for ten years. I see him a different
30:57
Speaker 1: thing that I don't. I don't talk to Jim on
31:01
Speaker 1: any sort of regular basis for a long long time,
31:04
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I have no insight into into
31:08
Speaker 1: what happened. It's it does seem generally like uh in
31:14
Speaker 1: this cycle and right now, teams aren't really going for
31:17
Speaker 1: the X head coach. Uh. There there's sort of a
31:21
Speaker 1: new blood trend so far. Uh hack it Faberflus that
31:28
Speaker 1: follows what's in the championship games right now. There's Andy Reid,
31:32
Speaker 1: of course, but you also had La Fleurid Green Bay.
31:35
Speaker 1: You've got mixed uh McVeigh, You've got Taylor, you got
31:39
Speaker 1: Cincinnati situation Shanahan, all young guys who have taken over
31:45
Speaker 1: and who are sort of setting their tone the new
31:48
Speaker 1: blood thing. Uh. So, perhaps that's why Peterson called well,
31:53
Speaker 1: some of the X head coaches name I didn't really
31:56
Speaker 1: take off. It's it's probably got dangerous on my part
32:00
Speaker 1: to try to say, okay, two positions have been hired.
32:03
Speaker 1: So that's a trend. But perhaps that's why some of
32:07
Speaker 1: the X head coaches UH haven't gotten a look. Pendulums
32:14
Speaker 1: and trends in this league UH tend to sway back
32:17
Speaker 1: and forth every couple of years. That's what this one
32:20
Speaker 1: feels like right now. John Ozer, Jaguars dot Com senior
32:24
Speaker 1: writer with US, Who do you like in the games
32:26
Speaker 1: this weekend? John? Good? You know it. Let's just hope
32:31
Speaker 1: they're as good as last week's, right. I mean, I'm
32:35
Speaker 1: not sure you can expect the Buffalo Kansas City. Uh. Yeah,
32:40
Speaker 1: you know me the old school guy, and he was
32:44
Speaker 1: screaming for some defense in that game, but nobody else
32:47
Speaker 1: seemed to want it, So I was just kinda I
32:50
Speaker 1: was the old man yelling at the moon on that one.
32:52
Speaker 1: But fantastic game. I think I like Uh, I like
32:56
Speaker 1: the forty Niners over the Rams because they seem to
32:59
Speaker 1: be able to handle that team. I don't think it's
33:02
Speaker 1: a coincidence they've won so many a New Row against them.
33:05
Speaker 1: They seem to match up and their physical and compound
33:09
Speaker 1: at him, and the Rams haven't handled that that well.
33:11
Speaker 1: So maybe that's the way that one goes. I I
33:16
Speaker 1: typically believe when a team has been there that often
33:19
Speaker 1: is Kansas City. With a quarterback like that, Kansas City
33:23
Speaker 1: is starting to feel a little bit like the Brady
33:24
Speaker 1: Air of Patriots, where you better bring a lot if
33:28
Speaker 1: you're going to knock them off. And for a young
33:31
Speaker 1: team to knock them off, this may be a situation
33:34
Speaker 1: where Cincinnati needs to be there once, get the experience,
33:38
Speaker 1: and come back and go after him again. The Chiefs
33:41
Speaker 1: at home are gonna be tough to beat that one. Yeah, Chiefs,
33:45
Speaker 1: but it's a fourth straight conference championship and an amazing
33:49
Speaker 1: stat by the way, I mean it is uh all
33:52
Speaker 1: at home too. I know they didn't learn the home
33:54
Speaker 1: in the home field this year, but you know, I'm
33:58
Speaker 1: sure it will happen again someday, but it gonna be
34:00
Speaker 1: a while. Yeah, that's a that's a heck of a
34:02
Speaker 1: run for sure. John. We're going to Senior Bowl next
34:06
Speaker 1: week maybe if if breaking news doesn't stop us from going.
34:10
Speaker 1: But hey, another Senior Bowl run. It's been a little
34:14
Speaker 1: bit since I've been to one. I haven't been to
34:15
Speaker 1: the new stadium yet. Looking forward to that. And it's
34:18
Speaker 1: really as we were talking to Pete a moment ago,
34:20
Speaker 1: Pete Prisco you've heard of him. Um, it's really the
34:23
Speaker 1: first big offseason coaching convention of sorts, and a lot
34:28
Speaker 1: of business can be done in that week next week, Yeah,
34:32
Speaker 1: Pete and I used to call it the Garb set
34:34
Speaker 1: because you would walk around and all the newly hired
34:37
Speaker 1: coaches were supporting their new Back in the day, used
34:39
Speaker 1: to be starter Garb, I think. So it's always interesting
34:43
Speaker 1: to people watch there, but it is it's not the
34:46
Speaker 1: extent of the combine where everybody's there, and the Senior
34:50
Speaker 1: Bowl has has fallen off a little bit in terms
34:54
Speaker 1: of the number of head coaches you see, because I
34:57
Speaker 1: think so do with so many changes uh staff that
35:02
Speaker 1: change typically can't get over to the Senior Bowl. But
35:05
Speaker 1: it it is certainly a it's the convention where you
35:09
Speaker 1: start to hear things. It's not as much of a
35:11
Speaker 1: job fair as I think it was back when I
35:13
Speaker 1: started covering the nineties and early two thousands, but it's
35:16
Speaker 1: certainly where you started hearing gossips. And for us JP obviously, UM,
35:21
Speaker 1: I know we were talking about it in our planning
35:23
Speaker 1: meeting today. We're thinking so much about the head coach
35:26
Speaker 1: and everything going on right now that it's easy to
35:29
Speaker 1: forget the Jet Wars have the number one pick. It's
35:32
Speaker 1: it's uh, that hasn't really been much of a topic.
35:35
Speaker 1: But for me personally, I'm looking forward to getting out there.
35:38
Speaker 1: That's always where I start really thinking about the draft
35:41
Speaker 1: and trying to figure out how things will play out.
35:43
Speaker 1: So I'm looking forward to go ahead and talking to
35:45
Speaker 1: people about these top guys, about the depth of the draft. Uh,
35:50
Speaker 1: that's what the Senior Bowl is really all about. Uh,
35:53
Speaker 1: although this year we'll see if we're going. I know
35:55
Speaker 1: JP from experience, Once somebody tells you you're going to Mobile,
36:00
Speaker 1: it's hard to get you off that sense. I've spent
36:03
Speaker 1: many of nights in that town. Um many a long,
36:07
Speaker 1: long night in that. Don't tell you you're going to
36:10
Speaker 1: Mobile and then turn that around, yeah, because I might
36:14
Speaker 1: just still go anyway. You never know, John, thanks to
36:18
Speaker 1: the time, Buddy, appreciate it. We'll talk to you all right,
36:21
Speaker 1: but anytime people'll talk John Os. You're Jaguars dot Com
36:24
Speaker 1: senior writer joining us. A lot going on, obviously, It's
36:28
Speaker 1: it's easy to forget that, Yes, the Jaguars have the
36:31
Speaker 1: number one overall pick again, second year a row. I mean,
36:35
Speaker 1: I don't think you wanted three years in a row.
36:37
Speaker 1: In fact, I know you don't, but hey, you got it,
36:41
Speaker 1: so make sure you do all the due diligence, get
36:44
Speaker 1: the right guy. That that's we're gonna start that offseason
36:47
Speaker 1: content strategy plan, of course, in the next little bit
36:51
Speaker 1: here on Jaguars dot Com, so stay tuned for that
36:55
Speaker 1: as we move forward. We're back in a moment Bucky
36:57
Speaker 1: Brooks joining us NFL Network analyst. He's out in l
37:01
Speaker 1: a Well. Get his thoughts on the Jaguars search. He's
37:04
Speaker 1: got the Collegiate Bowl coming up, the Shrine game, all
37:08
Speaker 1: that right around the corner for Bucky. And this is
37:10
Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back.
37:16
Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour. J P. Shadrick with you from
37:20
Speaker 1: the home studio today. Close Contact ball as well. Though
37:24
Speaker 1: it's our first show since the end of the regular season.
37:26
Speaker 1: The day after, we had a Monday edition of Jaguars
37:30
Speaker 1: Happy Hour. The Jaguars still have a coaching vacancy, but
37:35
Speaker 1: there are many names that have been thrown around with it,
37:38
Speaker 1: most recently of course, Byron Leftwich. No new news yet,
37:43
Speaker 1: but we'll see. We heard Pete Prisco earlier say hey,
37:46
Speaker 1: you know, maybe the next couple of days. They you'd
37:49
Speaker 1: like to have somebody in place before the Senior Bowl
37:51
Speaker 1: and all that going on. But then in the grand
37:54
Speaker 1: scheme of things, there's really not a huge rush because
37:57
Speaker 1: you just want to get it right. We get it
38:00
Speaker 1: right anytime. Bucky Brooks is on with US NFL Network
38:03
Speaker 1: analyst joining us from Los Angeles. Good afternoon, Bucky, what's up?
38:08
Speaker 1: What m JP? What's up? My guy? I haven't talked
38:10
Speaker 1: to you forever. It's been a minute. It's been a minute. Yeah,
38:14
Speaker 1: it's good to talk to you. Thanks for the time.
38:15
Speaker 1: We appreciate it. I know. Um. You know. So the
38:20
Speaker 1: social media thing is is nuts, right, I mean, everybody
38:24
Speaker 1: is has a report, everybody has an angle. Fans are
38:27
Speaker 1: all about getting this thing done as fast as possible.
38:31
Speaker 1: And when they hear the name Byron left, which now
38:33
Speaker 1: it's okay, let's go get Byron. And then Nate Hacketts
38:37
Speaker 1: gets fired, it gets hired by the Broncos, one of
38:39
Speaker 1: the names that was in the hunt. There goes Zebra
38:42
Speaker 1: flues to Chicago. All in the last day. I think
38:47
Speaker 1: that's ramped people's eagerness up again. Everybody's trying to get
38:52
Speaker 1: this thing done quickly, at least the for the fan base. Now,
38:55
Speaker 1: from a team perspective, you just gotta go get the
38:58
Speaker 1: right guy and not worry about the timing. Right, you
39:01
Speaker 1: do have to get the right guy, but timing does
39:03
Speaker 1: matter now that coaches have been put in seats, because
39:06
Speaker 1: what happens is if you don't get your head coach
39:09
Speaker 1: in the building right away, he now has to wait
39:12
Speaker 1: to hire coaches and then you kind of left with
39:15
Speaker 1: the picked over selection. And so the sooner that you're
39:18
Speaker 1: able to get the head coach in, the better he's
39:20
Speaker 1: able to assemble his staff, he's able to get top
39:23
Speaker 1: quality coaches as opposed to settling. Now. I'm not saying
39:25
Speaker 1: that there's a huge disparity between some of the coaches,
39:28
Speaker 1: but you would like him to have his ideal pick.
39:30
Speaker 1: So you want to kind of secure the bag when
39:33
Speaker 1: it comes to that, get the head coach in, and
39:35
Speaker 1: then build it out from there. There's a lot of
39:37
Speaker 1: work to do, and so I think Jaguars fans are
39:40
Speaker 1: right to be anxious to see how they're gonna get
39:41
Speaker 1: the work done. That's how these things go, right. I mean,
39:47
Speaker 1: there's teams that come in and ask for interviews. There,
39:51
Speaker 1: you know, and then you might have a guy in
39:53
Speaker 1: mind or maybe maybe negotiating, and here comes the Saints.
39:57
Speaker 1: They want to talk to Byron too. They still have
39:59
Speaker 1: an opening, they have a relatively new opening. So how
40:03
Speaker 1: much of that is posturing, how much of it is negotiation,
40:06
Speaker 1: how much of it is real, all of it, all
40:09
Speaker 1: of it is. In these situations when you're trying to
40:11
Speaker 1: figure out who's going to be the coach, how much
40:13
Speaker 1: money you're willing to pay the coach, it all comes
40:15
Speaker 1: down to leverage, and sometimes you get what you negotiate.
40:18
Speaker 1: And so if you do have another team come in
40:20
Speaker 1: at the eleventh hour, that kind of raises the stakes
40:23
Speaker 1: a little bit, and then you have guys go, guys
40:26
Speaker 1: that you knew were really in play at the job.
40:29
Speaker 1: Leverage swings and it shifts, and so you have to
40:31
Speaker 1: be careful playing the game. But it certainly is a
40:33
Speaker 1: part of the conversation. And what you would hope is
40:36
Speaker 1: in the next few days that something is wrapped up,
40:38
Speaker 1: you get the coach, you have everything lined up. There's
40:41
Speaker 1: a level of i would say unison or uniformity when
40:45
Speaker 1: it comes to the way the head coach and the
40:47
Speaker 1: general manager and everybody is on board. And then the
40:50
Speaker 1: way we go about the Vic Fangio bomb that came
40:54
Speaker 1: in yesterday that the Jags are sent to play that
40:57
Speaker 1: out not for hack It, but for Vic Fangio. And
40:59
Speaker 1: then the later report was maybe it was because of
41:03
Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator possibilities. That's that's a name that was
41:06
Speaker 1: kind of thrown out of nowhere. Yeah, I mean, look,
41:10
Speaker 1: I think this business is a relationship business. And when
41:13
Speaker 1: you go back and you look at general manager Trent
41:15
Speaker 1: Balky's relationship with Big Fangio. Fangio was the defensive coordinator
41:20
Speaker 1: at the time he was there at the Semnasrisco forty nine,
41:23
Speaker 1: So there's a natural um connectivity between them. They've seen
41:27
Speaker 1: each other's work. There's probably a level of respect and appreciation.
41:31
Speaker 1: Maybe Balky respects and appreciates what Fanjo was able to
41:34
Speaker 1: do maybe in Denver and some uh, difficult circumstances, particularly
41:38
Speaker 1: a quarterback, and so you know they're gonna kick the
41:40
Speaker 1: tires and kind of do those things. And it's also
41:42
Speaker 1: a situation where um sometimes as the leader of the organization,
41:46
Speaker 1: and we will say that right now, Balky is the
41:47
Speaker 1: leader of the organization. Some times you're trying to figure
41:51
Speaker 1: out how can I have the best alignment with the
41:55
Speaker 1: coach as opposed to what others on the outside might
41:57
Speaker 1: be the best coach in candidate Bucky Brooks with this
42:01
Speaker 1: NFL Network analyst, of course, the Jaguars coaching gigs still open.
42:07
Speaker 1: One of the reports earlier today from Arizona was that, yeah,
42:11
Speaker 1: Byron Left, which was going to be the Jaguars head coach,
42:14
Speaker 1: but a member of the Cardinals front office would be GM.
42:21
Speaker 1: All that combined. Of course, as you just said, there
42:23
Speaker 1: is a GM here in Jacksonville. Trent Balky is the
42:26
Speaker 1: general manager. What do you know about Wilson and what
42:29
Speaker 1: he's done with the Cardinals. Yeah, Adrian Wilson is a
42:33
Speaker 1: was now standing player in this league, big time player
42:36
Speaker 1: in this league as a safety transition from being a
42:39
Speaker 1: player to me in a very well respected front office executive,
42:42
Speaker 1: worked his way up the ladder in Arizona after his
42:45
Speaker 1: playing days. Uh, comes well equipped with the team building
42:48
Speaker 1: strategies that you certainly would like. Um, look, I understand
42:53
Speaker 1: Byron Left, which has spent time in Arizona, and so
42:56
Speaker 1: if you're the head coach and you have an opportunity
42:58
Speaker 1: to pick hand pick your personnel. Man, you're on someone
43:02
Speaker 1: that you trust, someone that might see the game the
43:04
Speaker 1: same way that you see the game, so that you're
43:07
Speaker 1: in lockstep when it comes to building up the Jaguars.
43:11
Speaker 1: I'm not necessarily surprised by the names and the connections
43:15
Speaker 1: and how they're kind of joined at the hip. I
43:18
Speaker 1: just think it's a little odd when you have a
43:22
Speaker 1: GM in place who reportedly is running the coaching search.
43:26
Speaker 1: Look at a bowl move, however, it's a move that,
43:29
Speaker 1: depending on the leverage that you have, it's one that
43:31
Speaker 1: you can make interesting for sure. Bucky Brooks with us
43:35
Speaker 1: NFL Network analysts, So all right, you're let's let's change
43:40
Speaker 1: gears here. You're this is the pre draft season is underway,
43:43
Speaker 1: Collegiate bowls this week, the Shrine Game is coming up,
43:47
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl is next week. I mean, we're here now, Bucky,
43:51
Speaker 1: here it is. Yeah, we're here right now. I mean
43:54
Speaker 1: we're in full mock draft season. Everyone is speculating who's
43:57
Speaker 1: going where, even though we don't even have coaches and
44:00
Speaker 1: we were still waiting to see on general manager. Doesn't
44:02
Speaker 1: stop us from trying to connect the dots and see
44:04
Speaker 1: where it's gonna go. I think it's an exciting time
44:06
Speaker 1: in the league because obviously everyone is able to kind
44:08
Speaker 1: of turn the page because as these teams get eliminated
44:11
Speaker 1: from the tournament, everyone cast their eyes to next year
44:14
Speaker 1: and how their team can get better. I think for
44:16
Speaker 1: the Jaguars, I think it's a huge year because you
44:19
Speaker 1: have the number one pick for the second year in
44:20
Speaker 1: a row. Uh, that pick needs to be an impact player,
44:23
Speaker 1: a difference maker, a franchise pillar, and so I think
44:27
Speaker 1: the curiosity for me and for others sense from the
44:30
Speaker 1: fact on how are the Jaguars going to do this rebuild?
44:33
Speaker 1: Are they going to initially rebuild around Trevor Lawrence, so
44:37
Speaker 1: he's going to be offensive centric, much like we saw
44:39
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals be able to do. And in two years,
44:42
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals are where everyone would aspire to be,
44:45
Speaker 1: one game away from the super Bowl. Or is this
44:47
Speaker 1: going to be a situation where you're looking at the
44:49
Speaker 1: defense and saying, hey, let's get a pass for Ushure,
44:52
Speaker 1: let's add to the defense. Maybe we can bring the
44:53
Speaker 1: defense up the snuff. A lot of fascinating debates that
44:56
Speaker 1: take place over the next three or four months. You
44:59
Speaker 1: gotta score points. I mean, look at the playoff games,
45:02
Speaker 1: but you gotta score points. Oh I just said here
45:05
Speaker 1: and saw San Francisco in Green Bay Cincinnati Bengals nineteen sixteen.
45:10
Speaker 1: What are we talking about, JP. It wasn't until we
45:14
Speaker 1: were forced in the last two minutes of the Buffalo
45:16
Speaker 1: Bills and the Kansas City Chiefs that we had to
45:19
Speaker 1: score points. That was the only game where we had
45:21
Speaker 1: to really do it. The rest of the games they like,
45:23
Speaker 1: they scored more points in those two minutes in the
45:25
Speaker 1: Jags scored all season. You kidn't mean they did. They did,
45:28
Speaker 1: but it took the pressure of a two minute drill
45:31
Speaker 1: and about to go home before they decided to ramp
45:34
Speaker 1: it up. And it also depends on the level of quarterback.
45:37
Speaker 1: I do know now though, JP, I think now more
45:40
Speaker 1: than ever the importance of having um and at the
45:43
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback in the fault UM. I think, by all accounts,
45:47
Speaker 1: we feel hopefully and optimistics about Trevor Lawrence. But you
45:51
Speaker 1: now see like, Okay, you get the quarterback one year,
45:54
Speaker 1: you get the weapons the next year, and away we go.
45:57
Speaker 1: And I think the Joe Burrow model what we saw
46:01
Speaker 1: those high flowered playmakers Ja Marchase, Tyler boyd um Tee Higgins,
46:06
Speaker 1: Joe Mixing, whatever. That offensive line looks like they do
46:11
Speaker 1: put points on the board, and then they did they
46:13
Speaker 1: committed a lot of free agent resources to the defense.
46:16
Speaker 1: But I do believe that that as a model that
46:19
Speaker 1: if I was sniffing around the building in Jacksonville, I
46:21
Speaker 1: might just kind of drop some who they posters around
46:25
Speaker 1: maybe just look at how those guys did it, because
46:27
Speaker 1: they're right there. So you know, how about the trend
46:31
Speaker 1: of these mobile quarterbacks because the homes can move around.
46:35
Speaker 1: Of course, Josh Allen, we saw what he can do
46:37
Speaker 1: with that size and mobility and all that. I don't
46:40
Speaker 1: know if Burrows exactly a runner, but Trevor has the
46:43
Speaker 1: ability to do that. Is that the future? You everybody's
46:46
Speaker 1: gonna kind of want these guys that can move around
46:48
Speaker 1: more than just stand there like a statue. Yeah, you
46:50
Speaker 1: can't be a statue. I don't know if you necessarily
46:52
Speaker 1: um one of the guy that's a runner. Even though
46:54
Speaker 1: man Josh Allen is such an outlier, like big physical
46:58
Speaker 1: running over guys. I mean, he's superhero with the ball
47:01
Speaker 1: in his hands. And keep in mind that guy came
47:03
Speaker 1: to Jackson only got thwarted, got stie me nine six.
47:08
Speaker 1: You know all the points that we saw in that game.
47:10
Speaker 1: So um, it is fascinated. But JP, I think you
47:14
Speaker 1: cannot look at the tournament and not come away knowing
47:18
Speaker 1: that you have to have a guy to do it,
47:20
Speaker 1: and that you can get so far with a guy
47:23
Speaker 1: who is fine and the team around him is great.
47:26
Speaker 1: But if you're going to be one of the last
47:28
Speaker 1: team standing, you better have a dude. Now, the only
47:30
Speaker 1: outline of the group is Jimmy Garoppolo, because I think
47:34
Speaker 1: we all are like Jimmy was all right, He's okay,
47:37
Speaker 1: you know, he's B B B minus. But the team
47:44
Speaker 1: is so good and it's so physical. I just wonder
47:45
Speaker 1: about the margin Rivera. That's it. They can wind it.
47:49
Speaker 1: They want up in the super Bowl because they're so good,
47:51
Speaker 1: they physical or whatever the other thing I think now,
47:54
Speaker 1: the formula is quarterback, a level, pass rush, a level playmakers.
48:02
Speaker 1: That other stuff you can work around, but you have
48:04
Speaker 1: to have the pass rushing to go with the quarterback
48:06
Speaker 1: to be able to do it. Bucky, we've got about
48:08
Speaker 1: a minute left with you here, so quickly, who do
48:10
Speaker 1: you like in the games on on Sunday. Oh, this
48:14
Speaker 1: is so much fun. I'm gonna go to the KNSC
48:16
Speaker 1: the Chiefs because I think the kNs the Chiefs have
48:18
Speaker 1: the recipe for getting it done. I mean, you go
48:20
Speaker 1: to three Street title games, you can do Street super
48:23
Speaker 1: Bowls like that is a remarkable concert. I think that
48:26
Speaker 1: experience gives them a little bit. And the thing the
48:29
Speaker 1: San Francisco fort nine is in l a Rams is
48:31
Speaker 1: so interesting because the forty nine is absolutely on the Rams,
48:36
Speaker 1: much like the Jacksonville jack Wards owned the coach where
48:38
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, they just owned it. It doesn't matter
48:40
Speaker 1: where you roll the ball out, how bad the team
48:43
Speaker 1: is when they play that team, they do it. But man,
48:46
Speaker 1: the star power of the Rams is fascinating. I'm gonna
48:48
Speaker 1: go with the Rams in this one because I feel
48:51
Speaker 1: like they find the way to get it done. The man,
48:54
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if he goes. We'll see see
48:57
Speaker 1: how many Rams fans sell their tickets to saying have
49:00
Speaker 1: you trying to block them out? But the faith, the
49:03
Speaker 1: faith one was going out. They can't let it can't
49:05
Speaker 1: be all red on Championship Sunday. It just can't be
49:07
Speaker 1: all read Bucky, enjoy it. Thanks for the time. We
49:11
Speaker 1: appreciate it. As always said, hey man, call me anytime.
49:14
Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks, NFL Network analyst here. Thanks also to Pete Prisco,
49:18
Speaker 1: CBS Sports Senior Writer, John Osher, Jaguars dot Com senior
49:23
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49:25
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