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The Goofy Side · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I almost famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with on our radio. For sure has been Ashley almost
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  Speaker 1: from this podcast. Yeah, we're in studio the second time
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  Speaker 1: this week, talking everything Bachelor as and Eddie comes in
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  Speaker 1: hot with some new and relevant stories facing Bachelor Nation.
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  Speaker 1: Ashley what he got for us? Okay, So Jason Targik
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  Speaker 1: was at the Super Bowl this weekend with his buddy
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  Speaker 1: Grob Gronkowski, and um, there was a whole bunch of
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  Speaker 1: Bachelor guys that joined them, including Jason Blake and our
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  Speaker 1: bachelor Peter. But um, what I'm here to talk about
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  Speaker 1: about Jason is that during press of the Super Bowl
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  Speaker 1: he teased proposal for Caitlin. He said that that would
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  Speaker 1: be the natural next step in this like sequence of
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  Speaker 1: the relationship and you know, very exciting stuff up ahead.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it makes sense, right, I mean, it's it
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  Speaker 1: seems like fine timing. They obviously are in love. They've
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  Speaker 1: shown nothing but you know, bringing out the best in
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  Speaker 1: each other. Not shocking to me, no, And what a
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  Speaker 1: crazy story that will be when they do get engaged
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  Speaker 1: and when they do possibly get married. Just to think
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  Speaker 1: that she was engaged with somebody else from the franchise
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  Speaker 1: for three years before it, and I don't know, let's
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  Speaker 1: think this feels like a good time to do this.
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  Speaker 1: I remember when Sean and Caitlin broke up, and I
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  Speaker 1: remember then how it felt like quick Jason and Caitlin
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  Speaker 1: announced their relationship, and it felt weird for us here,
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  Speaker 1: at least for me personally. We're going this feels weird.
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  Speaker 1: I can't think of Caitlin and Sean not together. Now.
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  Speaker 1: It's funny. I can't think of Caitlin and Jason not together.
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  Speaker 1: It's hard for me to remember Caitlin and Sean. Isn't
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  Speaker 1: that weird? I'm gonna remember Caitlin and Sean, But Caitlin
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  Speaker 1: and Jason makes a lot of sense to me now,
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  Speaker 1: whereas at the beginning, I was like, wait, no way,
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  Speaker 1: Caitlin and and Sean they made the most sense, and
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  Speaker 1: don't I don't think that anymore? Do we know if
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  Speaker 1: Sean's day? Anybody know that? You wouldn't know that personally?
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  Speaker 1: Have you talked to him at all? Well, I'm talking recently. Honestly,
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  Speaker 1: I would, um, I mean I might if I would
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  Speaker 1: see him, but I haven't talked to him to was,
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  Speaker 1: so I don't know Anyways, hey what else he got? Okay?
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  Speaker 1: So Jed Wyatt is shocked that Chris Harrison wants him
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  Speaker 1: on the spinoff, UM Listen to Your Heart and I
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  Speaker 1: want to read this shade it's it's shady, guys. I
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  Speaker 1: have so many thoughts about this, by the way, so
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  Speaker 1: I can't wait to chime in once you're done. So
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  Speaker 1: over the weekend, Chris Harrison said that he um wanted
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  Speaker 1: wanted Jed to come on to Listen to Your Heart
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  Speaker 1: Bachelor spinoff, and Harrison even said that the ending to
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  Speaker 1: his stories was tragic on many levels. So Jed has
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  Speaker 1: now responded to this and says, in a very shady statement,
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  Speaker 1: I'm honestly shocked that Chris has any sympathy at all
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  Speaker 1: for me redeeming myself in any sense, because as he
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  Speaker 1: came backstage before I went on the finale and sort of,
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  Speaker 1: you know, try to talk me up and build me
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  Speaker 1: up and give me confidence, and then he went out
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  Speaker 1: to kind of tear me down. So, for one, I'm
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  Speaker 1: shocked to hear that he has any sympathy for me.
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  Speaker 1: That just really kind of blows me away that he
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  Speaker 1: cares at all. I mean, judging Chris by who he is.
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  Speaker 1: All he cares about is the show. That's who pays him.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think that do you think that shitty? Right?
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's so shady. Yeah, I just totally disagree. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I'm you know, Chris has been good to me, so
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  Speaker 1: I guess, you know, Jed and I might be coming
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  Speaker 1: from from this from two different perspectives. But Kristin asked
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  Speaker 1: Jed to to do what he did when it came
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  Speaker 1: to hand in the season, Like it's been obvious that
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  Speaker 1: Jed messed up, So like, if you mess up, you
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  Speaker 1: got to face the consequences, and if the consequences aren't
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  Speaker 1: good and they're a little bit traumatic like they were
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  Speaker 1: for Jed. I don't know why he has in knee
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  Speaker 1: any issue with anybody from the show. He set himself
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  Speaker 1: up for this. I mean, I just don't get why
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  Speaker 1: he can't own it. We've asked him to own it
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  Speaker 1: on this show. Own it. Say you messed up, say
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  Speaker 1: you want to move forward, and then we all will
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  Speaker 1: with you. But instead we keep pulling this stuff up
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  Speaker 1: and we start placing blame on people like Harrison, which
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  Speaker 1: of course he cares about the show. It is his job.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how much he cares about Jed. But
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  Speaker 1: I know, I do know that he believed Jed would
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  Speaker 1: be an asset to this next show. And unless Jed
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  Speaker 1: totally one of the next show I messed up, I
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  Speaker 1: bet it would be a pretty good story for him. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So actually Jed does address that stuff earlier in this
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  Speaker 1: interview where he says that he would never go on
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  Speaker 1: any show with a girlfriend, and he has a girlfriend
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  Speaker 1: right now who he's very in love with and therefore,
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  Speaker 1: of course is not going to go on listen to
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  Speaker 1: your heart. So he's just going, he's just back right,
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  Speaker 1: you know, he's just reiterating his story. It again that
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  Speaker 1: he says he broke up with that girl before going
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  Speaker 1: on Hannah season. He won't let that die. That's that's
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  Speaker 1: his truth. Um, and we all we we we've heard
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  Speaker 1: the truth. Thing my truth. This is my truth, this
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  Speaker 1: is her truth, this is my truth. There's the truth. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: there's the truth. There's the truth, and then there's not
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  Speaker 1: the truth. I don't know the truth. Personalize your truth.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, that's the thing. Actually, let's never here's one
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  Speaker 1: thing I'll start with this podcast because it's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: it's been common in this season. This is the episode
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  Speaker 1: where like every girl has her truth because every every
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  Speaker 1: girl's truth is different. I guess there's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: things we've learned in our three years of doing this
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  Speaker 1: podcast through talking through specific issues. Things we've learned about
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  Speaker 1: each other, things we've learned about views of the world
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  Speaker 1: and our world views have shifted. Things we've been okay
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  Speaker 1: with and not been okay with. Here's one thing I
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  Speaker 1: will never be okay with. Truth is truth is truth?
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  Speaker 1: Thank you when I can't. Let's never be okay accepting lies,
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  Speaker 1: Like that's not ever gonna be all right. Like if
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  Speaker 1: you start telling me, well, this is how this is
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  Speaker 1: my truth and even though it's completely false, it's my truth.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I like. I don't know, like at that point,
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  Speaker 1: I'm done there. They're using this phrase my truth to
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  Speaker 1: really to make my opinion sound more heavy. Yeah, to me,
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  Speaker 1: it just doesn't sound just sounds really really inadequate. So here,
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  Speaker 1: but here's the here's the thing we have to talk
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  Speaker 1: about Jet. I'm happy for Jet. We met, we had
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  Speaker 1: him on the Almost Fammes podcast live show, I Really
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  Speaker 1: am We all celebrated him and his new partner. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know the format of this listen to your heart thing.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a love show or if
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  Speaker 1: it's a music show. If he feels like it could
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  Speaker 1: get in the way of his relationship, then good, don't
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  Speaker 1: do it. But also understand, of course you are an
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  Speaker 1: artist from the franchise, You've been asked to be known
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  Speaker 1: as a singer. Of course your name is gonna get
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  Speaker 1: brought up in this new music focused bachelor show. Don't
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  Speaker 1: get so shady and defensive so quickly, all right, next door?
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  Speaker 1: And it's not as I'm not no, not next story.
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  Speaker 1: It's not as if this franchise has never redeemed people.
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  Speaker 1: They redeemed people all the time with Paradise, with their
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  Speaker 1: spinoff shows. So for him to think that like they're
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  Speaker 1: just lying about a redemption story for him is not true. Yeah, yes, right, Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So Tyler Cameron was spotted at the super Bowl with
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  Speaker 1: all the other popular bachelor men getting flirty with Juliette
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  Speaker 1: Porter of cs t Key, and we had her on
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  Speaker 1: our podcast with Robbie a couple of weeks ago. I
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  Speaker 1: wish this had happened a couple of weeks ago, so
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  Speaker 1: I could have asked her, Well, she was here in
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  Speaker 1: the podcast, but basically, if we learned anything from the story,
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  Speaker 1: Tyler Cameron may be rumored to be with a different
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  Speaker 1: girl every month. He's talked about him and his dating
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  Speaker 1: like every episode. Yeah, Like he's obviously not committing, so
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  Speaker 1: he's just playing the field right now. Though wasn't like
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  Speaker 1: when we had him on originally, wasn't like committing and
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  Speaker 1: like settling down wasn't that part of this whole thing?
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  Speaker 1: Or was am I wrong? M hmm? Or is this
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  Speaker 1: like just this is he he's having a good time. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he's having a good time. I can't we can't shame
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  Speaker 1: him for it. And I don't really remember what he
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  Speaker 1: said in that interview. I think he probably was like
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  Speaker 1: I felt like I could have something long term with Hannah,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't know that like I want That's just
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  Speaker 1: like something I'm out there searching for right now. After
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  Speaker 1: meeting Julia and Julia Porter, did you feel like this
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  Speaker 1: is a connection or do is this feel like just
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  Speaker 1: a fun thing? It was probably a fun for thing,
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  Speaker 1: But I also was in here for like ten minutes
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  Speaker 1: with her, and all the attention was on Robbie being Robbie.
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  Speaker 1: So I can't say that I really got a good grass,
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  Speaker 1: but she's very pretty okay, fair enough. The final story
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  Speaker 1: of the episode is that Victoria F from Peter's season
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  Speaker 1: she uh has been on a couple dates at this point. Um,
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  Speaker 1: she's probably the one contestant that we've seen the most.
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  Speaker 1: Uh what we saw in in the episode earlier last
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  Speaker 1: week that uh she won the date to be on
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  Speaker 1: the Cosmo cover. Well, it was announced that Cosmo is
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  Speaker 1: now pulling that cover due to Victoria F modeling in
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  Speaker 1: White Lives Matter merchandise. Well as uh the research has
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  Speaker 1: gone on cosmopault and has announced that they've pulled Victoria
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  Speaker 1: F because it was just in bad taste. The White
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  Speaker 1: Lives Matter was was a fishing brand supporting white marlins
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  Speaker 1: uh and trying to protect the species of white marlins.
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  Speaker 1: But uh, Cosmo is saying that it was in bad taste. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: it was not funny and as a result, because of
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  Speaker 1: the association with the obvious Black Lives Matter, Uh, she
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  Speaker 1: is no longer going to be on the cover, but
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  Speaker 1: they will still highlight uh the episode and highlight Victoria
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  Speaker 1: f Uh in the magazine. Should we Um, I just
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  Speaker 1: what a dumb move for her to model in that
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  Speaker 1: don't move, I just don't. Yeah, I mean, it's just
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  Speaker 1: bad taste. Bad taste is a perfect way of saying it.
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  Speaker 1: It's just bad taste. Now, the behind the scenes, if
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  Speaker 1: it's a fishing brand, if it was whoever the brand is,
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  Speaker 1: and if they thought it would be a catchy saying,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know their reasoning. Um, so there. They also
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  Speaker 1: had the Confederate flag in one of the t shirts
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  Speaker 1: with little white marlins in place of the stars. It
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  Speaker 1: just doesn't feel like a good situation. Um and Uh.
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  Speaker 1: As a result, it's not shocking that Cosmo has pulled
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  Speaker 1: the cover. That is the hot takes, uh from the
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  Speaker 1: last Gee's a few days in Bachelor Nation. We're just
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  Speaker 1: on a couple of days. Can you believe that that's
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  Speaker 1: all come out in two days? Wow? The weekends just
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  Speaker 1: get full of Bachelor Nation doing some wild stuff. Let's
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  Speaker 1: take one break, we'll come back and we're gonna break down. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: This week's second episode of Peter season of The Bachelor. Actually,
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  Speaker 1: I've got to start us here with this episode, there
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  Speaker 1: is a very funny scene. In my opinion, UM, this
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  Speaker 1: season has not been very funny to me, there's been
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  Speaker 1: moments the Champagne gay was kind of funny. There's been
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  Speaker 1: like some like reactions to fights that are kind of funny.
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  Speaker 1: But this first scene was funny for me because, and
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  Speaker 1: I want to know if you agree, the women are
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  Speaker 1: all sitting around kind of having this nice lunch and
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  Speaker 1: a beautiful city. I love Santiago Chili. When I was
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  Speaker 1: down living in Peru, Santiago was just an amazing spot
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  Speaker 1: that was nearby. So the women are in Santiago Chili
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  Speaker 1: kind of hanging out and they're all acting like good friends.
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  Speaker 1: But to me, it's funny because you know that very
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  Speaker 1: soon drama is gonna ensue and this friendly like lunch
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  Speaker 1: that they're having isn't gonna last very long. No, So
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  Speaker 1: this episode was the episode that really turned my opinion.
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  Speaker 1: Victoria f last episode on Monday, I didn't like the
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  Speaker 1: way that she insinuated that Kelsey wasn't a strong person
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  Speaker 1: because she was somebody who cried a lot. That's totally
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  Speaker 1: messed up. But today in this episode, she says to McKenna,
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  Speaker 1: don't let that happen again. But that's just my opinion,
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: referring to McKenna interrupting the Rose ceremony to go have
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  Speaker 1: one on one time with Peter, and then Victoria F
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  Speaker 1: is like off doing her in the moment interview and
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  Speaker 1: she's like just sitting on her and I'm just like, okay, Victoria,
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  Speaker 1: uh starting not to like you? It's okay. So anyways, Actually,
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  Speaker 1: just to kind of summarize what you said that you
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  Speaker 1: used to be a fan of Victoria F because of
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  Speaker 1: her supporter of Kelly, is that correct? I mean, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there's like a mean streak of Victoria F coming out,
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  Speaker 1: And you know, I've been guilty of saying some mean
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  Speaker 1: things on the show too, So like I don't really
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  Speaker 1: um want to incriminate girls who say like a thing
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  Speaker 1: or two that just like need event about. But I
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  Speaker 1: really don't like later in the episode when it becomes
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  Speaker 1: apparent to me that Victoria doesn't really like Peter. But
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  Speaker 1: we can talk about that later. Yeah, before we jump
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  Speaker 1: too far ahead here, there's gonna be a lot of
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  Speaker 1: Victoria F conversation throughout this episode. I really think she
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  Speaker 1: pulls a massive storyline and and some of the stuff
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  Speaker 1: that even we talked about with Becca and uh Jesse
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  Speaker 1: this week came up again with Victoria. But let's not
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  Speaker 1: jump ahead. Let's pause here and talk about Hannah Ann's
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  Speaker 1: one on one at lunch. Peter completely crashed. Is this
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  Speaker 1: really nice lunch? You expect that to happen? He pulls
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  Speaker 1: Hannah Ann for a date and he says that hannah
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  Speaker 1: and is the goofiest girl here. He hate that, and
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  Speaker 1: we find out right away that Hannah Ann has never
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  Speaker 1: been in love. She makes a statement that she's saving
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  Speaker 1: love for the right person. Ashley. At this point, I'm
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  Speaker 1: just not tracking, Like it just feels like there's a
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  Speaker 1: disconnect between Peter and Hannah Ann and what Hannah Annah saying.
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  Speaker 1: And I do agree with Peter in his concerns. Really,
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  Speaker 1: but if you've never even pursued love or lever let
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  Speaker 1: yourself open to the fact that you might fall in love,
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  Speaker 1: you're maybe not ready for the ultimate romantic love commitment.
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  Speaker 1: I think she was saying that she wasn't just she
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  Speaker 1: wasn't not looking for love, she didn't have she'd never
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  Speaker 1: met somebody that she fell in love with at that point,
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  Speaker 1: and I think a tree that's totally valid. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think I was in love until after twenty three. No,
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  Speaker 1: we're close to it, you know, obsession, infatuation. Sure, but
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  Speaker 1: that's so crazy that he's I think it's crazy that
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  Speaker 1: he's so concerned that she's never felt loved by twenty three,
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  Speaker 1: And it's it's not like this is a red flag
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  Speaker 1: for me because of her youth and because she hasn't
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  Speaker 1: found it yet. It's not like she's like not trying
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  Speaker 1: to find it or doesn't want to feel it. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not concerned at all. I thought it was so weird
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  Speaker 1: the way he freaked out so much. You know what,
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  Speaker 1: you know what freaks me out is I had high
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  Speaker 1: expectations for Hannah Ann in this day. I thought we
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  Speaker 1: would see something really special between Peter and Hannah because
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  Speaker 1: at this point I'm not seeing I mean, maybe Madison.
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  Speaker 1: But if you take Madison out of the picture, there's
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  Speaker 1: only Madison. She's the only one. That's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: So if you take Madison out of the picture, Hannah
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  Speaker 1: and I thought was somebody that could step up, could
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  Speaker 1: be that person would go Okay, maybe he's falling for Hannah.
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  Speaker 1: And also but they're just felt like there was so
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  Speaker 1: much disconnect between Peter handa out like it felt like,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, just seeing them sit at the after the
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  Speaker 1: cocktail at the dinner, sitting there and Peter's looking at
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  Speaker 1: her and you can just see it in his face,
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  Speaker 1: like I want this to work. I want to have
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  Speaker 1: a conversation with her, but we can't even hawk, Like
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  Speaker 1: we're on two different planets right now and we're not
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  Speaker 1: able to communicate. He felt like she was doing like
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  Speaker 1: pageant speak where everything had a perfect clean answer. And
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  Speaker 1: I agree with him there, like I am like, Peter,
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  Speaker 1: go be concerned about that. Don't be concerned about her
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  Speaker 1: having not been in love yet. Um, But she just
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  Speaker 1: came across incredibly fake to me during the entire one
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  Speaker 1: on one I was just like, Peter, how don't you
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  Speaker 1: see this? How are you not seeing this fakeness that
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  Speaker 1: I am seeing? Did you feel the same way I
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  Speaker 1: had to text the group last night? You did not respond?
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  Speaker 1: You didn't I was a sleep kid. Um, Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: saw your text, and I'm just and I think when
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  Speaker 1: you say fake, I say, like I just was trying. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: fake and disconnect is what I would use, not like
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  Speaker 1: I just don't know she knows yet what she's trying
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  Speaker 1: to say. I think if he got down on one
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  Speaker 1: knee and said, I want to be with you forever
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  Speaker 1: would freak her out. And I think that's coming across
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  Speaker 1: Like again, She's been one of my favorites since the beginning.
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  Speaker 1: I thought she had a chance. After this day, I
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  Speaker 1: just see no way that she is ready for that
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  Speaker 1: next step. And now it makes sense why Hannah Anna
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  Speaker 1: has gotten along. It feels like with a lot of
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  Speaker 1: the women in the house. Some now we've had some
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  Speaker 1: you know, controversy, but a lot of women. Yeah. You
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  Speaker 1: see her hugging on you see him dancing around. It
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  Speaker 1: looks like she's likable in the house. But it's also
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  Speaker 1: why some of these women who like her as a
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  Speaker 1: person are coming up to Peter and using her, for example,
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  Speaker 1: like Kelly and saying, we just she's not like if
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  Speaker 1: you like Hannah and you ain't gonna like me because
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  Speaker 1: we're in two different places. Not that Hannah Han's has
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  Speaker 1: anything wrong with her, not that there's anything in gensically
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  Speaker 1: bad about her, she just isn't ready at all. Ben.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: I think you just straight up acting like that felt
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: like acting to me. Those tears seemed just like something
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: that she needed to just think about her dog dying,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: a grandparent dying, and just judge up I hope not,
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: because for Peter's sake, that he can't take any more fakeness.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: Like Peter, this poor man is trying his hardest, and
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: if now he gets to deal with people faking not
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: just causing chaos, but faking liking him, this is gonna
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: get so hard so fast. I don't think I said
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: she doesn't like him. I just feel like she doesn't
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: have a lot of emotion, and I think she's probably like, Oh,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: my cutesye attitude and my goofy side, right, the goofy
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: side and my pretty face is going to get me far.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: And now I think he's like, oh, but I'm looking
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: for more than that. Now. Now I'm looking to really
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: feel a connection and fluid conversation. And then I think
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: maybe she freaked out. I think her tears were a
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: result of her thinking that she was gonna get eliminated,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: not to the fact that there was like um distance
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: between them. Those are elimination tears. Those will may not
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: get a roast here. I still think Hannahan's around for while.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Speaking to Somebody's gonna be around for a while. We
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: brought her up early in the episode, Victoria f We
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: see a scene here where we flashed to the house.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: The women are sitting in the house. Obviously, McKenna is
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: the one that we all expect to get the one
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: on one. It's the thing she desires the most. She
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: wants it so bad. Speaking of how bad she wants it,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: I do think, um, it is hilarious, like McKenna's tongue
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: and facials that we have to talk about that it
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: is so hard to watch and so beautiful at the
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: same time, because it's just I love Lauren Zemas tweet
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: where she's like Chris Harrison does this to people sometimes
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: as she's dating Chris, Like, I think it's the funniest
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: thing ever. It's like so gross yet so entertaining to watch,
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: Like I'm like, I can't believe I'm watching this gift
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: over and over again, and yet I'm so disturbed by it.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: And by the way, you guys, I know that the
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: first couple of episodes, I was totally not into McKenna.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: I really like her now, she just like she wants,
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: she loves, She lets it all out, you know that.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: I love it when people are that open and expressive.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: And then she truly doesn't care what she looks like
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: on the show or in front of like the Girls,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: like she just wants love. She truly does. She wants
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: it so bad, so we see McKenna. Really the highlight
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: of this is mchannican the one on one. She doesn't
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: the day card comes in and says, I feel like
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: we didn't get a fair chance on our first date.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Victoria f is off for the one on one. Here's
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: the thing. Let's stop there and say mckinna feels like
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: this whole thing at this point is pointless. Um it's
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: hurting her, but she still has a group date to
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: go on. So both the day cards arrive at the
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: same time Victoria F and for the group date, and um,
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: so of course mchannic gets on the group date. But
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: she slays it. She does such a good job being
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: the maid, and she's so happy. She thinks she's accomplished
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: a lot. It's funny how this like made up group
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: day that is obviously scripted and scripted to have. I
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: mean it is like this isn't an editing producer that
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: this is a scripted television show. How happy it makes
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: her to kiss Peter like she's accomplished something even though
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: it's scripted, Like that's how much she wants this ash.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: She's so cute in this, she really is. I was
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: really happy for her. I thought she like slayed her role.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: She did a great job. Um but and like I
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: loved the I just thought it was a really interesting
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: group day. You know how usually I tell you that
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: I don't like group date activities, and I like gaze over,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: glaze over. I was really invested in this, you were.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, I thought it was funny. I thought it
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: was good. I thought it was really well done for
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: where they were at in the world. I think the
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: date like that, This date was really fun and super enjoyable.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: I love Harrison's little uh scene where he comes in
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: at the end. But all that's great and all that
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: to be said, it kind of leaves this feeling really good.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: It leads us to the cocktail party, where I think
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: one of the most shocking things happened in like my
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: recent memory on this show, Victoria Pee and Peter sit down.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: It starts really good. She just wants time with Peter.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: She wants to like sit on Peter because she wants
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: to feel awkind? Was that? How awkod was that? She's like,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: can I sit on your lap? Because I feel like
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: I haven't been close to you for a while and
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: my love language is touched. But then she like crawls
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: on him in such an uncomfortable way, and it's such
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: an uncomfortable position and you can tell that like he
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: wasn't really that down. No, Well, here's the funny part.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: And I know you and I know my girlfriend Jessica,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: like that is definitely something. Yeah, she'd be like, can
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: I just like girl up here and you like sit
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: on me. I'm like, god, dang it, Like you're like,
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: take I can't even watch football anymore. Definitely a move
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: I make. Yes, So like I get it. I do.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: I saw that, and I was like, but I don't
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: think you do that like when you're I just feel
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: like it takes a while to get to that point
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: where like Jessica knows she's doing that and knows that,
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: like I think it's cute and I don't hate it,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: like I actually enjoy her being near me. But at
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: the same time she knows I'm like, this is a
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: little annoying, Like I could like, have you sitting on
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: my lab totally? Jared. Jared's like, can you just you know,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: think about time and place first, it's exactly so, like,
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: you don't do this at this stage in the relationship. Anyway,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: she does it, they start talking. I did not expect Peter,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: even though this was like a funny little position that
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: they're sitting in. I had no clue Peter was going
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: to send her home. Did you expect it? No, absolutely not.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: I thought that she would end up getting eliminated at
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: this rose ceremony, just kind of like doing the math.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: But I definitely didn't think he'd did it then. And
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: I have a question for you. Do you think that
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: he would have sent her home right then and there
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: and um, you know, not wait for the rose ceremony
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: like he did, if she didn't bring up the conversation
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: topics that she did, like she was just like, I
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: just want to make sure that we've gotten over this stuff.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: And then he was like, oh, well, now that you've
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: brought it up. Not not really, we're not really in
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: the same place. But if she had gone into that
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: to that group date thinking I'm just gonna have fun
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: and talk to him about light fluffy stuff, would she
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: stayed around or was his plan the entire time to
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: dump her there? Uh? No, I think I think it
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: was just because of where the conversation went, Like I
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: think at some point he hit him, I can't lie
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: to this girl. Good on, Peter. He didn't lie to her.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: He didn't string her long. Um. He kind of strung
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: McKinnel along a little bit, but that's for a later conversation.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: He didn't string Victoria p along. But again I pause here, Ashley,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: and it's my My theme of this season is Victoria
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: p would have been in my top few girls for
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Peter to end up with at the end, because it
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: felt like he was so into her and it felt
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: like they had something decent, even though we saw some
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: like weird things that have for like, hey, this is
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: my truth and even though I'm not making a lot
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: of sense here, it's what I am saying, so it's
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: got to be true kind of statement. But he sends
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Victoria Pee home, which now eliminates one more person that
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: I thought potentially he could be with. There were some
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: weird eliminations in this episode, but I want to talk
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: about it later. Um. I mean, I personally got to
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: the point where I didn't trust Victoria anymore, and there
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: was like something about her that I wasn't connecting with
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: but I do feel like it was somebody that I
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: would have thought Peter probably would have had around a
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: little bit longer. There's a couple of girls that I'm
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: surprised he put through versus her. Yeah, even though I
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: just said that I thought she may be eliminated at
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: the Rose ceremony, but we got down to six this week. Yeah, yeah,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: it makes sense. Peter returns then Ashley to the room
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: full of girls. Um. At this point, Tammy is talking
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: to mckinna, freaking believe this? Can you believe this? Soon?
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: I think it's the wildest thing. I don't know what's
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: going on with Tammy. I really don't, but something like
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: is Tammy here's my question? I guess for the audience,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: email us have been nashally I hurted media dot com
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: or hashtag almost as podcast. Tammy feels so much like
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: she's so strong in her opinion. Is she right at
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: any level? Like? Is anybody here team Tammy? Here's my question? No,
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: I'm so crazy, Like she makes me so nervous to
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: watch because if I were in the house with her,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: I would, you know, obviously, I'm like a McKenna, and
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: I'm like a Kelsey and I get scared watching her
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: because I think about how hard she come after me,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: and I would obviously react exactly like Kelsey and McKenna have,
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: which is very strongly. This girl, Tammy has some problems
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: with emotion. She must have grown up or something in
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: a very emotional I'm trying to figure out what it
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: is that she has her biggest issues with. She's a commission.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Does anybody team Tammy? Do you think, like, is anybody
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: out there gonna I hope you do. If you are,
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: please explain to us what it is you're seeing and
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: feeling and experiencing here. She Mammy. In her opinion, she
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: makes it seem like girls who are emotional are well
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: one child like um, which is totally wrong. But she
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: also says that girls who are emotional or like it
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: just shouldn't be there anymore, like they're not strong enough
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: for him. It's it's so wacky, and it's so it's
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: sad because I think we all liked Tammy. We thought
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: she was the comic relief. She was the type of
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: girl that we were excited to see in Paradise. But
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: now I feel like she's like the most bad souled girl.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: They're like Hannah and maybe fake to me, but Tammy's
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: got some issues. Is Tammy the villain of this season?
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: Identified that? Yeah, and now she you know she she
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: she is the villain and hey, and she's taken people
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: with her. McKenna is obviously upset. She discusses it. Then
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: we see with Peter um and she's very clear with
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Peter that for whatever reason she's she wants to make
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: Peter know that she's very ready for marriage. Well, obviously
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: here we see Peter respond fine to it. We know
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: what happens later on, but it doesn't get mckinneth the rose.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Instead that goes to Madison. I thought this was a
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: really I want to pause here, Ashley. There was a
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: moment in this episode where Peter and Madison are outside,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: they're kissing, they're dancing whatever it is you call, and
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: she goes they're arguing inside and Peter goes, yeah, they are,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: and he leans right back to her, and I'm like
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: that right there shows that he has no interest in
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: anything else but Madison and where she is at this point,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: and I think that means that she's in it for
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: the wall Hall. Yeah, there's they have a chemistry that
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: is different by so many miles from the rest of
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: the girls, and um, like a depth to them and
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: you can feel their intimacy rather than it being like
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: we're making now because making that it's fun. It's like
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: this is we're kissing because we're falling in love. M Yeah.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: And it's like they've sat and we've seen him sitting
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: in silence together. We've seen them overcome like some like
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: obstacles together. I think Madison would definitely be the front runner,
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: which wasn't the case for me, and I got a
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: lot of heat for earlier this week because Victoria F
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: was my front runner. Now, Ashley, let's take the rest
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: of this podcast before we get to the road Sammy
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: and talk about Victoria F. She gets the one on
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: this week because Peter feels like she didn't get a
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: fair shot the first time because of the whole thing
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: with Chase Rice. Also, if you remember right, Victoria F
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: has uh. Becca had brought this up to us earlier
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: this week. She's ran away into a corner twice and
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: made Peter chase her. Um, she's shown a lot of emotion,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: uh and kind of uh. We've never got a clear
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: idea of if she's into Peter or not, Um, we've
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: never understood that. Give me your take on all of
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: her confusion in her holding back, and then I'm going
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: to give him mine. Maybe we agree, maybe we don't. Uh.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: I mean I think for me, I look at this
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: and say, she's just not that into Peter. Yeah, I mean,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: I think that's it, and I think she wants to be.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: I think she's probably feeling like, why am I not
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: because he seems like such a great guy, and I
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: just don't think she's that into him, and she doesn't
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: want to admit it. Because here's the one thing about
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: the show that does happen. You get into it, and
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: it's hard to leave it once you're in it. It's
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: hard to leave it even if you are into it.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: And right now I think Victoria f is feeling like,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: oh crap, I have to one on ones. Peter is
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: telling me all these things, He's opening up to me.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: This is getting serious. I'm all of a sudden feeling
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: like we could be like he could be got down
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: one knee at the end of this thing, like this
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: is longer fun and games. I gotta get out. Absolutely.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: I think perhaps seeing Chase Rice last week made her
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: be like, oh, God, I'm far more attracted into him. Um,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Peter is deaf only showing her that she's the front
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: runner by asking on two dates, and I think she's thinking,
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: oh man, I may win this thing. And then I
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: also think that producers probably want her around for hometowns
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: because she's been such a big character. Well here's the
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: other part of this whole thing, is it feels like
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: to this point in this episode, Yeah, Victoria f has
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: been clear she doesn't know she's in the Peter. She's
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: in the bathroom talking to producers saying she doesn't know
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: where she's at and if she's ready for marriage. Um.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: We see Hannah an earlier in the episode not showing
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Peter a lot of emotions, not really connecting with him.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: We see the women in the group date uh kind
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: of some express their emotions and he sends them home. Um,
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: there's one that you know, he seems to really like
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: his Madison. Outside of that, Ashley, I feel like this
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: episode was hard for me to watch because again, I
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: like Peter, He's a nice dude, But it was just
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: a lot of women not being very into him. Yeah,
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: and it's I don't get it, like it's a good
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: looking dude, he's nice. He's been super kind to them.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: Like it feels like at every turn there's somebody else
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: coming up to Peter being like yeah, just even the
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: women that he likes so much, Victoria F and Hannah,
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: and for example, he brings them on one on ones
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: and they sit there and they just kind of stare
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: at him and we when he asks questions that matter,
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: they just kind of blankly stare back and be like,
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: I don't want to lie to you, Peter. But I
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: think what they're saying is I mean, I think we
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: know what they're saying is. I'm just I'm just don't
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: think this is it. Yeah. And I also think that
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: Victoria just to reiterate, I think that Victoria F wants
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: to stay around because she wants the followers and then um,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: but she's really not knowing like how she's going to
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: do this without breaking his heart. Like she's like, how
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: do I stick around but just long enough and then
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: not look like a villain. She's like in this weird
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: little like back and forth, like I have to play
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: this game right and not turn out to be like
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: who did that? I feel like somebody pulled out like
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: top three or four Oak Cassie, But now after Cassie
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: and Colton are together for over a year, I definitely
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: don't think about that what I think anymore. It's weird. Um,
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: it's weird. I feel like this is where the episode,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: in my opinion, kind of stops. I know we have
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: the Tammy and McKinney thing we're gonna talk about, but
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: if we break down the episode to this point again,
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: what we have is Peter trying to connect with a
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: few women that I think he's interested in. It's not happening.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: A group date that in a sense, uh, we see
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: a great connection between him and Madison, and then a
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: little bit of drama with Victoria p and a lot
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: of drama with the women involved. The drama then leads
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: us Ashley into something that is unexpected. The second UH
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: date that Tammy and mckinnay get asked onto is a
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: two on one. UH. The two on one is meant
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: is asked to be done before the cocktail party where
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: at least one of these women will be going home.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: There's no rose on the group date like normal, there's
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: no rose, but the drama that ensued during the group
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: date led us to this two on one Peter invites
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: them in we see this happening. There is a empowered
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: speech and passion speech. I loved it. I loved it.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah it was it was a little much. Okay, it
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: was a little little much to me, Ben, she she
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: should have stopped midway through. I liked I like what
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: you said. I like the heart and passion behind it.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: But it was like a little bellow dramatic and you're
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: exactly the closing. I don't even remember what it was,
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: but I remember I was like that she should have
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: cut it off a couple of sentences before her closing,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: like it was all okay, good, There was good moments,
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: good things being said, like I am a strong woman.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: Your words will not hurt me. You have said some
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: things to me that could have hurt me, They will
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: not hurt me. Like all that stuff is great stuff.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: And then I think she ends it with like and
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: that's what I have to say about this topic. It
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: was cute, though it was cute, and everyone was team McKenna. Um, dammy,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: she's such a bitch, is such a bit. Why did
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: you think it's still we'll go back again? Actually, you
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: think it's emotional stuff, like she just doesn't like emotion
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: or like tears. It throws her off? Right, do you
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: think it throws her off? I don't know. She definitely
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: has been brought up in a way to think that
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: tears our weakness and you should not be doing this
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: at this age, right. And I also think, like I
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: have to backtrack a little bit and just talk about
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: age for a minute, because I think that is just
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: the common denominator in all of this. There's a huge
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: difference between twenty three and he's twenty eight. This is
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: when you really start being like, I have the urge
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: to settle down. I think that's the average age. And
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: then these twenty three year olds who signed up to,
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: you know, to live an influencier life, are like, oh man,
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: this guy, I'm realizing that he's really here to find
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: his wife. Yeah, easily here to find his wife. This
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: scares me. Funny enough, McKenna is probably the one person
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: that would say screw Instagram despite Tammy's claims, and be
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: like Peter, I'm happy to move like in to the
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: middle of nowhere with you and just be with you.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: And he eliminates her. Yeah, she gone. Well it leads
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: us then, um to the evening portion we we we
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: see this. This is a switch. I think you'll see
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: this and I think listeners you'll feel this. I think
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: this is a moment I'll put my stake in the
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: ground and claim this. After um this two on one,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Tammy leaves because Tammy leaves because Peter trusts McKenna more,
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: which thank god, he sees something clearly. McKenna walks into
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: the room full of the women, very happy, proud. I understand,
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: you get it. But you start to see the conversations
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: that Peter have with the women that are left, and
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: they're deeper, they have more meaning. Um, there's more things
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: being said, There's more things being said back and forth.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: Even Victoria f has apologized to him at this point
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: and says that she put her walls up. She wants
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: to break those down and give Peter her all. Don't
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: believe her. But there's there's more depth happening now at
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: the end of this episode, and I believe this, this
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: is what where I will stick put my stake in
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: the ground. I believe the rest of these episodes this
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: season will have a depth to them that we haven't
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: experienced yet, where drama will slowly be forgotten and the
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: pursuit of something special will now be at the forefront.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: And I think that happened now because we started to
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: see that happening for the first time. I agree, there
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: was definitely a change in the field. She walks to
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: the road ceremony. What happens, Well, who did you go
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: into this road ceremony? Beything like, it's probably gonna get eliminated. Uh,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: that's so hard, honestly for me. I mean at this point,
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: at this point, everybody was up for grabs. I thought
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: there was a I really thought there was a potential
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: for Natasha and um Kelly tail me too. I just
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: wrote it down. I said, Okay, it's definitely going to
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: be two of these three women, it being Kelly McKenna
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: or Natasha. I will say his um Rose Ceremony cocktail
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: party conversation with Natasha was really strong. So that made
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: me feel like, oh, maybe she does have a better
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: chance that I'm thinking. So when he called Natasha's name,
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, damn, so it's definitely gonna be
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: Kelly and McKenna. And then he calls Kelly's name and
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: I am blown away. Jared was like, what's wrong with you?
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: And I'm like he eliminated sid me and I couldn't
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: be more mind boggled. He in Monday Nights episode, He's like,
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: you're the best kisser. I really see something with you.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: I feel I know, And then all of a sudden,
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: one episode later, she's gone and gone with no drama,
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: gone with no explanation. So confused, I thought she was
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: a shoe in for Top four. I think we're all shocked.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: I mean I didn't have mckinna up there because he
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: had just kept her from the two on one, So
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I think that means she's gonna
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: be around. Obviously it didn't. You fumbled, just completely fumbled.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Hannah Be for the for the word. I
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: was so confused. Listeners, are you confused? Are you shocked?
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: Does this throw you off? I mean, Sydney seemed to
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: be a popular choice. I mean, like we said, Peter
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: had told her you're the best kisser here, which was
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: a very aggressive statement. Also again very awkward for whoever
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: he ends up choosing, and probably watching this episode with him.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: I think they have some practice to be done. Um,
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: I guess if he chose to anybody at all, But yeah,
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: shocking you guys, I asked you on Monday night if
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: anybody had information on Sydney in her high school past,
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: because it came out during Monday Night's episode that there
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: are some pictures of her like in the homecoming court,
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: and like being very active in school functions and just
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: being this beauty clean and she seemed like the last
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: girl that would be eating lunch in the bathroom stall.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: Not to say that that those are two things that correlate,
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: but you know where I'm going with it. And then
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: a picture came out of her and Hannah be together
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: because Sydney and Hannah b went to the same high
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: school and I believe they were in the same grade.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: Even so, Yeah, isn't this like what a small world?
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: Crazy small world? So I said, I want to do
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: an almost famous investigates to see what Sydney was really
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: like in high school. I hear rumors that she and
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: hannahby did not get along. Um, But now that Sydney
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: has been eliminated in a very non dramatic way, I
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: guess we can cancel the investigation. And we were paradise.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: I mean my high school. My high school doesn't have
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: like actually my school also studs in it. Another another
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: very crazy note about high school Sydney from from Colton
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: season Sydney, who was on our live podcast a couple
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: of weeks ago. I went to high school with Victoria F.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: And she agreed, Um that you know, further down in
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: the season and maybe afterwards she will come on and
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: talk about the things that she knows about hannaff. I mean,
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: Victoria F. This world is getting very very close. What
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: are the odds we're stall high school? I need you
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: to please pull out somebody else to go on this
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: show so I can start talking about how I knew
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: you once in high school or at this point, probably
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: when you're like in sixth grade. Um, please, Warsaw. I
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: know you've got some people around there. Hey, I think
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: it's a great idea. Actually, maybe in depth episode of
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: Almost Almost investigates. Actually, to close out this podcast, I
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: want to hear your summary of this episode. You're rating
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: A to F on Peter at this point this season
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: after this episode, and then also, what we can expect,
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: remember this is spoiler free, what we can expect in
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: your eyes to look forward to for the next couple weeks. Okay, well,
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: we can look forward to more depth. I would say
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: we can look forward to seeing more Madison because as
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: somebody who I actually think is the only person right
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: for him, we've seen so little from her. I would
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: give Peter in this episode. I mean, can we give
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: him an a just because like he's so sweet and
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: like just the perfect package that no girls seems to want.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: Maybe they want a little bit more edge from a
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: guy he's not edgy at all? Um? And then was
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: did I answer anything else? Yes? I mean I think
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: you said we're gonna look forward to depth this episode.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: I felt like a lot of like kind of like
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: disappointment for Peter. It's still is a transition episode, and
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: you're gonna give Peter a higher grade this week because
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: because he's just so darn sweet, he just doesn't just
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: so darn cute. Um, I would agree. I think Peter.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: I think Peter is doing great episode that every week.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: I think he is is going to get his his
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: footing here. I think there's gonna be less drama, more depth.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna give Peter a B plus. That's still an
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: upgrade from last week, and he's a only gonna go
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: up from here. I think what we can look forward to,
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, Peters came out publicly now and said it.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: So it's not even a spoiler that he falls from
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: multiple women during the season. Now we get to look
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: forward to who those women are, and I can't even
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: guess at this point. Madison be the only one that
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: I would say, this seems like a good shop. Hey, actually,
• 44:18
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• 44:20
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• 44:23
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• 44:25
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• 44:28
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