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  Speaker 1: I'm Chris Hansen right now on Crime Watch Daily. From
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  Speaker 1: here in New York City. A man's body is found
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  Speaker 1: at the side.
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  Speaker 2: Of the road.
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  Speaker 3: We didn't even have a name.
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  Speaker 1: Who is he and who is his killer?
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  Speaker 4: Cold blooded?
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  Speaker 3: Cold blooded? Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: A receipt found at the crime scene leads detectives straight
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  Speaker 1: to their first clue. Surveillance video of a secret shopper
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  Speaker 1: turns out to be.
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  Speaker 5: A student at a local college, had no criminal.
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  Speaker 6: History, just the all American kid today.
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  Speaker 1: Is this crime connected to a missing married soldier?
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  Speaker 6: O'h crime.
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  Speaker 7: That's how much I've missed.
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  Speaker 1: When this puzzle comes together, it will shock everything.
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  Speaker 6: This is a homicide Okayside.
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  Speaker 1: Then a mother of four wards a cross country train,
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  Speaker 1: but when it arrives at the station.
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  Speaker 8: She didn't get off the train.
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  Speaker 1: Twenty eight years old, the picture of health. You're dead
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  Speaker 1: in her seat.
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  Speaker 9: It wasn't the conductor that killed her, and the show
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  Speaker 9: wasn't her kids.
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  Speaker 1: Ana Garcia with one of the most bizarre mysteries of
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  Speaker 1: all time? Was it murder on the train?
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  Speaker 10: I know this in my heart and in my.
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  Speaker 1: Right Now.
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  Speaker 11: Let's go.
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  Speaker 5: Jason Motower with Prime Watch Daily.
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  Speaker 10: I'ms also going up from Crimewatch Daily. Yes, let's be
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  Speaker 10: smart from Crimewatch Daily. It's Ana Garcia from crime Watch Daily.
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  Speaker 10: You got anything to say?
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  Speaker 1: Is crime Watch Daily?
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  Speaker 9: What do you mean you don't know?
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  Speaker 12: If she's thirteen, you're running away?
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  Speaker 13: Now?
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to crime Watch Daily. Everyone, I'm Chris Hansen. First
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  Speaker 1: up today. If you want to get away with murder,
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  Speaker 1: you might not want to type we used to kill
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  Speaker 1: someone and not get caught into your web browser. Our
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  Speaker 1: Nurse and Night has today's top story, The Imperfect Crime.
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  Speaker 4: It's a bizarre murder mystery.
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  Speaker 5: I have never seen a case with these strange and
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  Speaker 5: heinous set of facts.
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  Speaker 4: But who's behind the grizzly crime will shock a close
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  Speaker 4: knit community.
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  Speaker 3: Cold blooded, cold blooded, absolutely one of the coldest people
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  Speaker 3: I've ever met in my life in my career.
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  Speaker 4: And leave investigators shaking their heads and holding their stomachs.
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  Speaker 4: Did these images stick with you?
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  Speaker 6: Yes, they still to this day.
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  Speaker 4: It's deer season in Springfield, Illinois, and someone is made
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  Speaker 4: a killing.
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  Speaker 14: A couple gentlemen who live out in eastern part of
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  Speaker 14: the county. One was driving home saw something laying in
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  Speaker 14: a creek area off the side of a road.
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  Speaker 4: He figures it's a discarded deer carcass and keeps driving,
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  Speaker 4: but for some reason he can't let it go, so
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  Speaker 4: he goes.
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  Speaker 14: Home, sits here for a while and it's bugging him,
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  Speaker 14: so he calls one of his friends and they agree
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  Speaker 14: to go down there and see what they have.
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  Speaker 4: The area is dark and wooded, it's hard to make
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  Speaker 4: out in the tall grass. Then they see it and
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  Speaker 4: it's not a dead deer.
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  Speaker 15: And that's when they discovered the remains of a body,
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  Speaker 15: or what's left of it.
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  Speaker 6: Appeared to be a body missing the head.
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  Speaker 4: Horrified, the men dial nine to one one. Santomon County
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  Speaker 4: Chief Deputy Joe Roche gets the call from dispatch.
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  Speaker 3: I was at home. I was off duty, but the
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  Speaker 3: Captain of Investigations is never off duty. But I received
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  Speaker 3: a call and we believe that we had a body
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  Speaker 3: of a human found in a rural area.
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  Speaker 4: When investigators arrive, they discover a gruesome scene.
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  Speaker 6: It's very graphic. When I, along with other detectives, walked.
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  Speaker 3: Up, it was the decapitated body and the body also
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  Speaker 3: didn't have arms or legs, so someone had cut the head,
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  Speaker 3: the arms, and the legs off this person.
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  Speaker 4: Even the most hardened detectives are taken aback by the
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  Speaker 4: sheer carnage of the crime scene. This is unheard of
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  Speaker 4: for the area.
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  Speaker 14: Yes, that's a very safe area. The only thing that
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  Speaker 14: happens out there is farming and hunting.
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  Speaker 4: The first hurdle for investigators is to id the body.
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  Speaker 4: There are no missing persons reports and the body is
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  Speaker 4: just a torso, making the identification process nearly impossible.
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  Speaker 3: We had no fingerprints, we had no face, and no
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  Speaker 3: way to actually do any tests.
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  Speaker 4: So detectives on scenes scour the area for many signs
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  Speaker 4: of the man's identity. Then they spot something on a
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  Speaker 4: nearby guard rail.
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  Speaker 14: You could see what appeared to be substance consistent with blood,
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  Speaker 14: where something was drug over the railing, and there was
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  Speaker 14: also an extension cord around the shoulders, which appeared that
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  Speaker 14: the torso was drugged down there by someone.
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  Speaker 4: But the clues don't stop there. It appears somewhat and
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  Speaker 4: tried to wipe the blood off the guardrail. There was napkins,
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  Speaker 4: and mixed within the bloody napkins on the ground.
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  Speaker 3: We found a receipt just feet away from the body.
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  Speaker 15: Got with their lost prevention people tracked down the purchase
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  Speaker 15: time date got the register.
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  Speaker 4: And there's more. When cops pulled the store surveillance video
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  Speaker 4: and zero in on the purchase time on the receipt,
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  Speaker 4: that's when they spot the mystery buyer.
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  Speaker 3: But it was a black female.
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  Speaker 4: And just what was she buying?
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  Speaker 3: Purchasing his saws off at basically midnight? Buying a saws
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  Speaker 3: on in the middle of the night.
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  Speaker 4: It's a little bit unusual coming up.
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  Speaker 3: We hadn't identified him yet, so we didn't even have
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  Speaker 3: a name.
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  Speaker 4: And who is the woman on the surveillance video.
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  Speaker 6: We were kind of stunned.
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  Speaker 1: We're back now with more of our top story today.
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  Speaker 1: The imperfect, a dismembered torso is discovered in a field.
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  Speaker 1: Next to the body a receipt. Could the killer have
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  Speaker 1: been careless enough to leave it behind?
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  Speaker 6: Once again?
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  Speaker 1: Here's Narissa Knight.
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  Speaker 4: Police and Springfield, Illinois are literally trying to piece together
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  Speaker 4: their grisly murder mystery. A body is discovered, but many
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  Speaker 4: parts are missing.
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  Speaker 14: An African American male torso missing the legs from below
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  Speaker 14: the knee down, The hands were cut off, the arms
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  Speaker 14: and the head had been severed off the body.
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  Speaker 4: Cops find a store receipt near the man's Torso, and
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  Speaker 4: when they pull the retail shop security video, they discover
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  Speaker 4: a woman making a curious purchase in the middle of
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  Speaker 4: the nile.
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  Speaker 14: On that receipt was a skill reciprocating saw, which is
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  Speaker 14: an electric saws.
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  Speaker 4: All then cops hit pager. When they zoom in, the
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  Speaker 4: surveillance video shows the mystery woman pain with a credit card.
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  Speaker 4: So you had surveillance video, and you had the card
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  Speaker 4: that was used and what items were purchased. Yes, And
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  Speaker 4: when cops pulled the woman's credit card information, the secret
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  Speaker 4: shopper is a secret no more.
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  Speaker 5: Her name Watasha Dent Macaster.
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  Speaker 4: But she's hardly a criminal, was.
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  Speaker 5: A student at a local college and had no criminal history,
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  Speaker 5: recently moved to the area.
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  Speaker 4: In fact, the twenty two year old was an honor
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  Speaker 4: student at her high school, and when not excelling at school,
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  Speaker 4: Watasha could be found attending church.
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  Speaker 14: Lots of friends dedicated to her family as well. Never
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  Speaker 14: heard a bad thing about her either, just the all
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  Speaker 14: American kid.
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  Speaker 4: But considering everything, investigators placed the college student under around
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  Speaker 4: the clock, twenty four hour surveillance.
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  Speaker 3: We put a surveillance on her house. She went about
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  Speaker 3: her normal.
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  Speaker 4: Life, including something fairly routine as taking out the trash
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  Speaker 4: after she deposited on the curve that made her trash
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  Speaker 4: public property. Cops move in right away and secretly seize
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  Speaker 4: her garbage. And when they open the first bag.
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  Speaker 3: Floor tile, she tore up the floor tile, So again
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  Speaker 3: an odd thing to find in trash.
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  Speaker 4: Odd but not necessarily incriminating. Still, investigators send the tiles
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  Speaker 4: to the crime lab for testing. Cops wonder if this
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  Speaker 4: young church going woman was just remodeling her house, or
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  Speaker 4: if she had some connection to this savage murder.
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  Speaker 5: How could this petit, meek, mild mannered, no criminal history
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  Speaker 5: have done this.
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  Speaker 4: Not to mention, the killing is so brutal it seems
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  Speaker 4: more like a hit.
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  Speaker 5: This has to be gang related, drug related folks not
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  Speaker 5: from Sangamon County that could do this heinous crime.
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  Speaker 4: Because your people just don't do this here.
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  Speaker 6: We do not see this type of crime here in
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  Speaker 6: Sangmon County.
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  Speaker 4: While the corner attempts to identify the butchered remains, undercover
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  Speaker 4: cops keep a close eye on what Tasha and CSI
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  Speaker 4: teens continue to sift through her trash. Then alarm bells
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  Speaker 4: go off. One bag doesn't appear to be garbage at all.
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  Speaker 4: It's full of men's clothing.
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  Speaker 3: When we started seeing soldiers' uniforms, we knew that there
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  Speaker 3: was someone that could have been living there with.
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  Speaker 4: Her, But who It's a short lived question when investigators
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  Speaker 4: discover an identification card mixed in with the uniforms.
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  Speaker 3: Norman Ramel Macast was a citizen of Sangamon County. He
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  Speaker 3: was involved in the Illinois National Guard and a great
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  Speaker 3: member of this community.
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  Speaker 4: And there's something else about this National guardsman.
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  Speaker 5: Had recently moved to Springfield, Illinois with his wife, Watasha
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  Speaker 5: Denton Macaster.
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  Speaker 4: That's right, what Tasha is married, but her husband doesn't
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  Speaker 4: seem to be home. Detectives plays a call to the
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  Speaker 4: Illinois National Guard. They are informed that Norman was a
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  Speaker 4: no show at a recent mandatory drill. Comes aside, it's
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  Speaker 4: time to have a chat with his young wife.
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  Speaker 15: She talked to myself as Sergeant Foks. We asked if
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  Speaker 15: we come in and talked to her. She let us in.
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  Speaker 6: She was very polite.
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  Speaker 4: Now was she acting suspiciously?
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  Speaker 6: Not at all.
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  Speaker 14: She invited to send her house, was very genuine, sweet,
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  Speaker 14: ask us if we wanted something to drink. We sat
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  Speaker 14: on her couch talked a few things over.
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  Speaker 4: Watasha explains to police that Norman is her high school sweetheart,
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  Speaker 4: but that lately their marriage has been on the rocks
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  Speaker 4: due to his drug addiction.
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  Speaker 14: She told us that he left with some druggies from
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  Speaker 14: Saint Louis.
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  Speaker 6: We asked her what kind of car. She didn't know.
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  Speaker 14: I remember specifically asking her what did he have when
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  Speaker 14: he left? She said just the clothes on his back.
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  Speaker 4: But when detectives talked to Norman's dad, he's in total shock.
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  Speaker 4: He tells police his son doesn't do drugs, and what's more,
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  Speaker 4: he has no idea his son is even missing.
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  Speaker 2: So you're telling me my son ran off, So you
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  Speaker 2: must don't know my son and the relationship to me
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  Speaker 2: and him have.
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  Speaker 6: He's not gonna run off.
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  Speaker 2: He's gonna call right without telling me.
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  Speaker 6: Or call it me.
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  Speaker 4: Turns out, after Norman disappeared, Watasha didn't tell his family
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  Speaker 4: or police.
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  Speaker 6: I shouldn't report her husband missing.
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  Speaker 4: Norman's aunt, Keisha, is equally stunned by Watasha's stories about
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  Speaker 4: her nephew.
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  Speaker 11: She stopt saying, all weird stuff that didn't make sense.
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  Speaker 4: You knew it wasn't right.
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  Speaker 9: No, I know it was not right, I know he
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  Speaker 9: would contact us and tell us anything that was going on.
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  Speaker 4: And when detectives interview soldiers and coworkers who knew the
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  Speaker 4: missing twenty two year old man, and.
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  Speaker 14: We were waiting to hear one bad thing about him
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  Speaker 14: and that that never happened.
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  Speaker 4: Then cops get their hands on more surveillance footage. Just
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  Speaker 4: one day after buying the saw what Tasha is captured
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  Speaker 4: pulling into the same store parking lot, once inside security
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  Speaker 4: camera's role as she makes another strange purchase clean supplies.
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  Speaker 3: And I think it was like heavy duty plastic that
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  Speaker 3: you'd wrap maybe for painting, like a plastic covering.
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  Speaker 4: Basically a kill cleanup kit.
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  Speaker 3: That's what we thought it was. At least it was
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  Speaker 3: very suspicious that the same person that uses credit card
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  Speaker 3: was also cleaning up, ripping the tile out of her
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  Speaker 3: house and not reporting your husband and not reporting your
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  Speaker 3: husband missing.
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  Speaker 4: Now, with more than a little hunch to go on,
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  Speaker 4: investigators contact the Illinois National Guard and make a very
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  Speaker 4: specific replust. They ask for a sample of Norman's DNA since.
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  Speaker 6: He was in the National Guard.
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  Speaker 5: There is a DNA sample that has kept at Dover
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  Speaker 5: Air Force Base in Delaware, so through the work of
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  Speaker 5: the Illinois State Police taking a DNA sample from the torso,
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  Speaker 5: matching that up with DNA from Dover Air Force Base
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  Speaker 5: in Delaware.
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  Speaker 4: And the result it was a match coming up.
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  Speaker 3: If we would tip our hand, it could blow the
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  Speaker 3: whole investigation.
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  Speaker 4: Curious computer searches and mounting evidence.
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  Speaker 15: She agreed to come down to the Sheriff's office with us.
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  Speaker 4: Then finally time to tell the truth.
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  Speaker 6: You know where it is at.
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  Speaker 1: Now is the conclusion of today's story, the imperfect crime.
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  Speaker 1: For that, Let's head back to Illinois and our Nurisa Knight.
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  Speaker 4: Chris Nord of the Castor has been murdered, his body dismembered,
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  Speaker 4: and police would zero in.
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  Speaker 12: On a prime suspect, his young wife.
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  Speaker 4: There's a DNA match between the torso found in the
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  Speaker 4: woods and the missing soldier. It's twenty two year old
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  Speaker 4: National guardsman Norman macast.
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  Speaker 6: Just received that phone call. It just tears your.
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  Speaker 2: It just tears you apart that you know they hear
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  Speaker 2: it at one here kids is dead.
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  Speaker 4: What did you hear it happened?
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  Speaker 2: At that time, nobody wanted to tell. People just said
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  Speaker 2: don't say anything to him.
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  Speaker 4: But when Norman's father arrives at the police station in Springfield.
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  Speaker 4: The detectives regretfully reveal the savage way Norman died.
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  Speaker 2: Once I found out all the details, I pretty much
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  Speaker 2: wanted hurt something.
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  Speaker 4: Or someone whoever was responsible.
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  Speaker 6: Who's ever responsible for it?
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  Speaker 4: And investigators believe they know who is responsible for Norman's death,
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  Speaker 4: his own wife with Tasha. They've had her under surveillance
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  Speaker 4: for weeks.
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  Speaker 14: We wanted together the strongest case we could get against her.
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  Speaker 4: Now, armed with what appears to be undeniable evidence against her,
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  Speaker 4: detective votes asked Watasha to come down to the Sheriff's headquarters.
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  Speaker 14: The Thanksgiving holiday was coming up. We thought she might
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  Speaker 14: go home and not come back.
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  Speaker 4: Watasha agrees to meet with investigators.
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  Speaker 14: We were helping the guard out on the missing person, who,
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  Speaker 14: according to them, is a missing person normal. That's why
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  Speaker 14: we came to talk to you, and we briefly spoke
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  Speaker 14: at your house and were nice enough to come over
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  Speaker 14: here with us.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 4: Detectives ask Watasha about her relationship with her husband. She
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  Speaker 4: paints a picture of estrangement and abuse, starting with an
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  Speaker 4: argument over Norman watching porn and just drew me into the.
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  Speaker 11: Wall, and I guess so nervous because.
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  Speaker 16: You know that's my husband.
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  Speaker 6: You know, he never put his hands on me like that.
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  Speaker 3: How long ago was that?
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  Speaker 4: That was?
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  Speaker 5: Not?
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  Speaker 8: Like?
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  Speaker 4: Then, detectives recalls something off they noticed at her house
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  Speaker 4: during their initial conversation with the young woman, And now
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  Speaker 4: it's starting to make sense.
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  Speaker 5: There was a calendar on the wall in the kitchen
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  Speaker 5: with the anniversary date all blacked out.
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  Speaker 6: Their two year.
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  Speaker 5: Anniversary was coming up, and Norman macastor was not going
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  Speaker 5: to make that two year anniversary, and she was going
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  Speaker 5: to make sure of it.
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  Speaker 4: So Detective Votes asked a leading question.
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  Speaker 6: Hey, you said your anniversary was one day. I can't
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  Speaker 6: remember when you said it.
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  Speaker 9: Was made two years we've been married, and I came
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  Speaker 9: him out on the twenty four, like he actually led
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  Speaker 9: to Bista on twenty four all.
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  Speaker 4: Of his stuff, Remember, cops already went through Watasha's trash.
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  Speaker 4: They found what appeared to be Norman's belongings, including his
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  Speaker 4: military uniforms, credit cards, and IDs.
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  Speaker 14: And when he left, what'd he take anything?
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  Speaker 10: Everything?
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  Speaker 4: Detective Votese has just caught with Tasha in a line, let's.
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  Speaker 14: At your house that he left with nothing but the
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  Speaker 14: clothes on his back. Yeah, I didn't keep anything.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to keep anything.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know why he didn't.
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  Speaker 16: He threw it all out in your garbage. That's why
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  Speaker 16: we're here. We know where Norman's at. Where is you
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  Speaker 16: know where Norman's at?
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  Speaker 4: You want to? Detective Vows hands her two search warrants,
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  Speaker 4: one for her home and one for a sample of
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  Speaker 4: her DNA.
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  Speaker 6: If we haven't made ourselves clear, this is a homicide.
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  Speaker 9: Okay, what's a homicide?
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  Speaker 12: Wllatasha might not know what a homicide is, but Cobbs
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  Speaker 12: believe she committed one and placed her under arrest.
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  Speaker 17: Yeah, you're under rest for the concealment of a homicide.
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  Speaker 6: There's nothing more. What I'd like to do is get
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  Speaker 6: this straightened up.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, a lawyer.
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  Speaker 6: You want a lawyer.
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  Speaker 4: Watasha is taken into custody and charged with first degree murder,
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  Speaker 4: dismembering a body, concealing a homicidal death, and obstructing justice.
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  Speaker 4: Trial prosecutors reveal the results that are forensic computer search
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  Speaker 4: performed on her laptop.
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  Speaker 14: The computer searches they all started around the beginning of June,
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  Speaker 14: about how to kill your husband, how to kill a
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  Speaker 14: spouse and get away with it, and the list goes
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  Speaker 14: on and on.
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  Speaker 4: And on to these curious clicks of her computer keyboard.
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  Speaker 5: How to kill somebody with vizine.
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  Speaker 4: Which to prosecutors would explain the puzzling contents of one
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  Speaker 4: of Watasha's trash bags.
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  Speaker 3: We found numerous bottles of iszine. I've been involved in
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: law enforcement for over twenty years. At the time, we
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: didn't even know what relevance that was, but we found out.
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: You know, people take the component of iszine and in
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: just that in the human body and large quantities it
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: can be fatal.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: A forensic toxic collegist testifies that he discovered above normal
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: levels of tetra hydrosylene, an ingredient in byzine, in Norman
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: Macast's liver. But prosecutors are just getting started when they
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: call their star witness, a student who attended college with Watasha.
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: He loaned a gun to Watasha. She then returned a
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: day later, and it was missing two bullets.
• 19:49
  Speaker 6: For we believe that she shot Norman in the head
• 19:53
  Speaker 6: with that gun.
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: That's why his head was cut off with the reciprocating saw,
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: and then his hands were cut off and his legs
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: cut off either. She thought that that no fingerprints could
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: be found, so they couldn't determine who when the torso
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: was found who it was, or it made it easier
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: because Norman weighed over two hundred pounds, easier for her
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: to move.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: Norman, but cops believe she still had to use a dolly.
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: That theory comes from more damning surveillance footage, this time
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: it's from an entirely different store where Watasha is seen
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: purchasing a Dolly then placing a truly chilling.
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: Order a chess freezer that was later canceled. We surmised
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: that she was able to dispose of the body, so
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: she did not need to store it in a chess freezer.
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: But what about the rest of Norman.
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: We believed that the killer went up to Chicago based
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: on some evidence from her phone. We looked and there
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: were several bridges, other areas, other wooded areas, so.
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: No one knows where his head, his legs, his.
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: Arms are, His head, his hands, his legs were never recovered.
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: It's a devastating reality for Norman's family members who were
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: hoping to lay their loved one to rest in one piece.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: Why would someone just do something like that?
• 21:23
  Speaker 6: A parson period kind of parson.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: Up like that.
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: After seven hours of jury deliberations, Watasha is found guilty
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: and sentenced to seventy eight years.
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: That's not a human being to me, that's a master.
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: Am the motive for murder.
• 21:41
  Speaker 6: Natasha was a perfectionist.
• 21:43
  Speaker 14: She had never failed at one thing, but her marriage
• 21:46
  Speaker 14: was crumbling around her, and when it started to fail,
• 21:50
  Speaker 14: she came up with the plan, and unfortunately she carried
• 21:53
  Speaker 14: it out.
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: Since the horrific murder of Norman macast his father tries
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: to stay strong for the rest of the family by
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: mourning his only son in private.
• 22:05
  Speaker 7: It's tough because every morning I go out to the car,
• 22:11
  Speaker 7: I'll sit there and you know, I'll cry because that's
• 22:16
  Speaker 7: how much I miss oh me.
• 22:22
  Speaker 6: But the lots to be.
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: To this day, the Springfield, Illinois woman has never admitted
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: to killing them, dismembering and decapitating her husband. In fact,
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: even while being arrested, Watasha was still wearing her wedding
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: ring and told detectives she was holding out hope that
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: she and Norman would get back together.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Up next, a young mother takes a cross country train
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: ride with her kids, but doesn't derive a lot.
• 22:56
  Speaker 9: Does she die in Nebraska. Was she dead when they
• 22:59
  Speaker 9: were in ILLINOI I have no clothes.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: Her family says, all the clues point to murder, but
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: their plans for justice keep getting derailed.
• 23:08
  Speaker 18: How can they tell us an undetermined death? To me,
• 23:10
  Speaker 18: it sounds pretty evident.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: We're back now with one of the most bizarre mysteries
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: we've ever covered. A woman walks onto a train but
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: never walks off. Anna Garcia is in Colorado, now with
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: the details.
• 23:25
  Speaker 10: A young mother boards a train from Milwaukee to Denver.
• 23:30
  Speaker 9: Marina is on her way to start a new life.
• 23:33
  Speaker 10: But Marina Placentia won't be stepping off alive.
• 23:37
  Speaker 11: I need a phone call saying they're trying. They're trying
• 23:40
  Speaker 11: to resuscitate Marina.
• 23:43
  Speaker 10: But how is it just an inexplicable tragedy?
• 23:47
  Speaker 18: She was a healthy young woman, she had no internal illness.
• 23:52
  Speaker 10: Or is it a case of murder on the Denver
• 23:54
  Speaker 10: Express ending in a journey with no justice?
• 23:58
  Speaker 9: It wasn't the conductor that killed her, and a show
• 24:01
  Speaker 9: wasn't her kids.
• 24:04
  Speaker 10: Marina Placentia, a sweet teen with dimples and a bright smile,
• 24:09
  Speaker 10: grew into a stunner who turned the heads of men
• 24:12
  Speaker 10: wherever she went. This one guy just kept watching and
• 24:15
  Speaker 10: watching and watching. The next thing, you know, bay them
• 24:18
  Speaker 10: right into a pole. One of those men was Angelo Mantage,
• 24:24
  Speaker 10: who set his sights on the eighteen year old raven
• 24:27
  Speaker 10: haired beauty after spotting her across the room at a party.
• 24:31
  Speaker 13: He wrote his number on a dollar bill and he
• 24:34
  Speaker 13: kind of dropped it by her, and she picked it
• 24:36
  Speaker 13: up and saw the number.
• 24:38
  Speaker 10: The sly move paid off. Angelo and Marina started dating,
• 24:43
  Speaker 10: and the relationship moved at warp speed. How was Marina
• 24:47
  Speaker 10: feeling about him at this point?
• 24:48
  Speaker 13: Oh, she was massively in love with I mean scary love.
• 24:52
  Speaker 13: They were obsessed with each other.
• 24:55
  Speaker 10: But behind the bloom of new love, Marina's mother, Tere,
• 24:59
  Speaker 10: who were worked as a counselor and a domestic violence shelter,
• 25:03
  Speaker 10: saw red flags.
• 25:05
  Speaker 13: I said, you know, Marina, he's pretty, I don't know,
• 25:09
  Speaker 13: kind of intense. He needs to know where you're at
• 25:11
  Speaker 13: twenty four seven. That's not healthy, baby.
• 25:15
  Speaker 10: Even Marina's big brother Chris, sounded alarms.
• 25:19
  Speaker 8: And I told her flat out, says, I don't like him.
• 25:21
  Speaker 8: I want you to steer clear of this man. But
• 25:23
  Speaker 8: she chose not to.
• 25:25
  Speaker 10: It wasn't long before the family, says Angelo revealed a
• 25:29
  Speaker 10: dark side simmering below the surface.
• 25:32
  Speaker 8: What did you see in the beginning? It was perfect,
• 25:35
  Speaker 8: Everything was fine, good old fairy tale relationship. And then
• 25:40
  Speaker 8: you see pep, you start to happen.
• 25:43
  Speaker 10: The family alleges that was just the start of years
• 25:46
  Speaker 10: of harrowing abuse. But Marina refused to give up her Romeo,
• 25:51
  Speaker 10: and you couldn't get rid of him.
• 25:52
  Speaker 18: No I tried, and.
• 25:55
  Speaker 10: No, Mom, I love him. Little did the family know
• 26:01
  Speaker 10: twenty four year old Angelo would soon become entangled in
• 26:05
  Speaker 10: their lives forever.
• 26:07
  Speaker 13: She says, Mom, We've got something to tell you. Oh crap,
• 26:11
  Speaker 13: I got a fellain. I know what this is.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: She was pregnant right.
• 26:16
  Speaker 10: Her family claims that even the children weren't safe from
• 26:19
  Speaker 10: his explosive temper.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: Did the kids tell.
• 26:22
  Speaker 18: You Daddy said that he would hurt them if they
• 26:26
  Speaker 18: said anything. Oh the two year old, we get popped
• 26:32
  Speaker 18: in the mouth and he would make her bleed.
• 26:38
  Speaker 10: Crime Watch Daily try to independently verify the allegations against
• 26:42
  Speaker 10: Angelo Mantage. We reached out to him through his attorney,
• 26:46
  Speaker 10: but we got no response. According to police reports, cops
• 26:51
  Speaker 10: were called to the house numerous times to do welfare checks,
• 26:54
  Speaker 10: but no action was ever taken. Was there anything you
• 26:58
  Speaker 10: could do?
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: No? I tried everything.
• 27:01
  Speaker 13: I would do the safety checks with the officers. I'd
• 27:03
  Speaker 13: have him go down and check on her, because I
• 27:06
  Speaker 13: never trusted him.
• 27:08
  Speaker 10: Marina finally did file an official report of one instance
• 27:12
  Speaker 10: of domestic abuse. In it, she writes, I'm submitting a
• 27:16
  Speaker 10: copy of the medical records where he broke my ear drum.
• 27:20
  Speaker 10: I got lucky this time. I don't want my kids
• 27:23
  Speaker 10: to pay the price. And Angelo was finally convicted of
• 27:27
  Speaker 10: domestic assault.
• 27:29
  Speaker 13: Then I said, oh thank god.
• 27:31
  Speaker 10: And while he was locked up, a tiny glint of
• 27:34
  Speaker 10: strength sparked in Marina, who took the first tentative steps
• 27:39
  Speaker 10: to build a new life.
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: She got set up.
• 27:41
  Speaker 13: She had this little apartment.
• 27:43
  Speaker 10: Her and the three boys are safe.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: This is amazing. I'm so happy.
• 27:47
  Speaker 10: But were they really? Even a prison cell couldn't keep
• 27:51
  Speaker 10: Angelo from terrorizing Marina. When the family claims she received
• 27:57
  Speaker 10: a chilling message.
• 27:58
  Speaker 11: She said, Angelo tells me if I can't have you,
• 28:01
  Speaker 11: no one will, and if I find you here in
• 28:03
  Speaker 11: a relationship with somebody else, I will kill you.
• 28:07
  Speaker 10: Despite the alleged threat, Marina accepted Angelo back into her life.
• 28:12
  Speaker 18: She was a grown woman, and so we couldn't really
• 28:15
  Speaker 18: interfere with her decision to want to take him back.
• 28:18
  Speaker 10: But Marina's family claims the violence and stress had reached
• 28:22
  Speaker 10: a tipping point. Now, Marina's desperate family hatches a secret
• 28:27
  Speaker 10: plot to rescue her from Angelo.
• 28:30
  Speaker 8: We were going to, in better terms, kidnap my sister
• 28:32
  Speaker 8: and them kids so they can be safe, put him
• 28:35
  Speaker 8: in a safe home.
• 28:36
  Speaker 10: And Marina had no idea about the plan.
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: No clue, no clue whatsoever.
• 28:41
  Speaker 10: The master plan, Marina and the kids would take the
• 28:44
  Speaker 10: Amtrak train from Wisconsin to Colorado. Once there, they would
• 28:49
  Speaker 10: stay in Denver with Marina's brother, get a restraining order,
• 28:53
  Speaker 10: and be convinced to finally escape for good.
• 28:57
  Speaker 11: He didn't know where to relive, so Marina was safe
• 29:01
  Speaker 11: because there was no way he could find her.
• 29:03
  Speaker 10: But Angelo soon gets wind of the family's cover story
• 29:07
  Speaker 10: that the trip is just to visit. He quickly buys
• 29:11
  Speaker 10: a train ticket and joins them.
• 29:13
  Speaker 13: Now we found this out like two or three days
• 29:16
  Speaker 13: before they were leaving. It's okay, he can come.
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: Who cares?
• 29:19
  Speaker 13: We have our plan in motion.
• 29:22
  Speaker 10: Their secret plan to whisk her to safety was about
• 29:26
  Speaker 10: to be derailed, and I.
• 29:27
  Speaker 11: Get a phone call saying they're China. They're trying to
• 29:32
  Speaker 11: resuscitate Marina.
• 29:34
  Speaker 10: Strangely, when the family arrives at the station, only Angelo
• 29:39
  Speaker 10: and the kids get off that train. Marina is still
• 29:43
  Speaker 10: in her seat, not breathing.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: She didn't get off the train.
• 29:52
  Speaker 10: Up next, across country journey from hell? What really happened
• 29:57
  Speaker 10: in those hours of travel, crossing multiple state lines? And
• 30:03
  Speaker 10: why can no one answer the question? Was Marina murdered?
• 30:07
  Speaker 8: That's why I looked at him and I told him,
• 30:08
  Speaker 8: if I find out, you to danger into where and
• 30:10
  Speaker 8: you're gonna pay for this the one way or another.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: A family puts into motion a secret mission to save
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: a mother of four from her abusive boyfriend, But just
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: hours before she'd reached that safe place, Marina Placentia would
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: be found dead. Anna Garcia is here now with more
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: of the story than will leave you.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: Outraged, Chris.
• 30:31
  Speaker 10: It's here at Denver's Union Station that Marina Placentia would
• 30:35
  Speaker 10: be found dead on a train, still in her seat.
• 30:38
  Speaker 10: The one thing her family is sure of, Marina was
• 30:41
  Speaker 10: alive when she got on that train. A woman takes
• 30:46
  Speaker 10: a cross country train ride, all a secret planned by
• 30:49
  Speaker 10: her family to whisk her away. From an abusive partner.
• 30:53
  Speaker 10: So when the journey ends at Denver's Union Station, Marina
• 30:57
  Speaker 10: Placentia is not breathing.
• 31:00
  Speaker 8: She was still on the train that was trying to
• 31:02
  Speaker 8: assuscitate her in the walkway of the middle of the trade.
• 31:05
  Speaker 10: Paramedics rush on board, feverishly trying to save the twenty
• 31:09
  Speaker 10: eight year old mother of four. It's too late.
• 31:13
  Speaker 8: I see the gurney come by with the paramedics and
• 31:15
  Speaker 8: nobody was on you. That's what he told me.
• 31:17
  Speaker 9: She was gone.
• 31:19
  Speaker 10: Her family is stunned and only left with this burning question.
• 31:24
  Speaker 10: How could Marina Placentia, a perfectly healthy young woman, simply
• 31:29
  Speaker 10: die in her seat without anyone noticing?
• 31:32
  Speaker 9: Because it wasn't the conductor that killed her, and a
• 31:35
  Speaker 9: share wasn't her kids that killed her.
• 31:38
  Speaker 10: To add to the mystery, Marina's brother, Christopher, spoke to
• 31:41
  Speaker 10: his little sister around ten pm the previous night.
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: How did she sound?
• 31:47
  Speaker 6: One hundred percent?
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: She was excited, But.
• 31:50
  Speaker 10: When the train pulled into the Denver station, she was dead.
• 31:55
  Speaker 13: I know what happened to my baby.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: He beat her.
• 32:01
  Speaker 10: Did you say to him, Angela, what happened on that train?
• 32:03
  Speaker 8: I tried to ask him what happened?
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: What happened?
• 32:05
  Speaker 8: He goes, I don't know, she just fast it did
• 32:07
  Speaker 8: wake up? I said, no, byes, there's something else that happened.
• 32:10
  Speaker 10: Responders remove Marina's lifeless body and take her to the
• 32:13
  Speaker 10: Denver Moor. Her heartbroken family gathers at Christopher's house and
• 32:18
  Speaker 10: in the most bizarre move imaginable, Angelo goes along with them.
• 32:24
  Speaker 8: And every time you turn around, that's all he was
• 32:25
  Speaker 8: concerned on, sitting on my couch and asking for another beer.
• 32:29
  Speaker 8: He had no emotion whatsoever.
• 32:31
  Speaker 10: While the family struggles with the sudden death, the coroner
• 32:35
  Speaker 10: performs an autopsy. The results are devastating, a horrifying map
• 32:41
  Speaker 10: of thirty five recent injuries on the young woman's body,
• 32:45
  Speaker 10: showing a blunt object hit her face, mouth, and jaw,
• 32:49
  Speaker 10: contusions covered her from head to toe, bleeding between the
• 32:54
  Speaker 10: skull and brain, and a pool of blood in her stomach.
• 32:58
  Speaker 9: She was beaten from head to from head to toe.
• 33:02
  Speaker 10: Then, in a shocking report, the Denver Medical Examiner determined
• 33:07
  Speaker 10: not even one of Marina's injuries on their own could
• 33:11
  Speaker 10: have killed her. So the cause of death is listed
• 33:14
  Speaker 10: as undetermined.
• 33:16
  Speaker 18: How can they tell us an undetermined death? To me,
• 33:19
  Speaker 18: it sounds pretty evident.
• 33:21
  Speaker 10: But it wasn't evident to the coroner or police, and
• 33:25
  Speaker 10: with no actual proof that Angelo even caused Marina's death. Shockingly,
• 33:31
  Speaker 10: the case is not considered a homicide investigation. And there's more.
• 33:37
  Speaker 10: Not only can detectives not determine how she died, they
• 33:41
  Speaker 10: can't even determine where she died. The train, passing through
• 33:46
  Speaker 10: multiple states, including Wisconsin, Iowa, and Nebraska before arriving in Colorado,
• 33:53
  Speaker 10: covers multiple police jurisdictions.
• 33:56
  Speaker 9: Does she die in Nebraska? Was she dead when they
• 33:59
  Speaker 9: were in Illinois? I have no clue.
• 34:02
  Speaker 10: When we contacted the Denver police, they have this to say.
• 34:06
  Speaker 10: The case is being carried as an open death investigation,
• 34:09
  Speaker 10: but they declined to comment beyond that. The frustrated family
• 34:13
  Speaker 10: says it took two weeks for Marina's body to be released.
• 34:17
  Speaker 10: At the viewing, her body was in such bad shape
• 34:20
  Speaker 10: she had to be positioned to conceal deep bruises.
• 34:24
  Speaker 11: According to Ancopie said, oh, she had a couple of
• 34:27
  Speaker 11: bruises on her face for moving boxes.
• 34:29
  Speaker 6: From our house.
• 34:31
  Speaker 11: Like okay, well, you don't move boxes with your face.
• 34:34
  Speaker 10: Lana Martinez, a neighbor of the couple, tells Our Denver
• 34:37
  Speaker 10: affiliate KDVR. She saw Marina being brutally assaulted by Angelo
• 34:42
  Speaker 10: just a day before they boarded the train, and.
• 34:45
  Speaker 8: I saw him hit her.
• 34:47
  Speaker 9: He hit her in the back and she fell forward
• 34:49
  Speaker 9: because I saw her go down.
• 34:50
  Speaker 10: Her arms went up as she fell, fell loose on
• 34:53
  Speaker 10: the floor.
• 34:55
  Speaker 7: When I found out Marina had passed away on the train,
• 34:59
  Speaker 7: my heart dropped.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: And I knew right away he did it.
• 35:05
  Speaker 10: But in yet another blow to the family, Angelo was
• 35:09
  Speaker 10: not arrested, nor has he ever been charged with any
• 35:12
  Speaker 10: crime related to Marina's death. Why do you think that
• 35:17
  Speaker 10: unarrest hasn't been made.
• 35:20
  Speaker 9: This is what has me really really puzzled. I watched
• 35:24
  Speaker 9: programs on TV. Oh well, there's not a body. You
• 35:27
  Speaker 9: can't prove nothing, But here you have a body. It's
• 35:31
  Speaker 9: trying to tell you something.
• 35:32
  Speaker 10: At this point, Angelo has also not been charged with
• 35:36
  Speaker 10: child abuse. But listen to this audio recording of what
• 35:42
  Speaker 10: his boys themselves are reportedly telling family and social services
• 35:47
  Speaker 10: following Marina's death.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: No, what do you hit her?
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: That?
• 35:56
  Speaker 6: And heed me?
• 36:00
  Speaker 8: I just I don't understand how one could be. I'm
• 36:03
  Speaker 8: having a really hard time hearing the description.
• 36:08
  Speaker 9: I thought these children were treated I'm having a hard.
• 36:11
  Speaker 10: Time for now. The children are in a foster home,
• 36:19
  Speaker 10: but their family wants them back.
• 36:22
  Speaker 18: They're ripped away by the system and they haven't been
• 36:24
  Speaker 18: with family since they belong with us.
• 36:29
  Speaker 10: And Angelo appears to be moving on.
• 36:32
  Speaker 13: He's running around carefree and happy. She passed in September
• 36:37
  Speaker 13: and in April he's already posting in a relationship.
• 36:41
  Speaker 10: Our Denver affiliate KDVR track down Angelo Mantage for comment
• 36:46
  Speaker 10: on Marina's death, but he wasn't talking.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: Hey Angelo, if you're not, we just want to ask
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: you what happened.
• 36:54
  Speaker 6: On the train?
• 36:55
  Speaker 8: It's cool? Do you get that time out on my face?
• 36:58
  Speaker 10: And we reached out to Mantage his attorney for comment.
• 37:02
  Speaker 10: We didn't hear back. The race scene. Wisconsin Police Department
• 37:06
  Speaker 10: told Crime Watch Daily they have no open investigations against Angelo.
• 37:11
  Speaker 13: Wisconsin wouldn't pick it up. Denver wouldn't pick it up.
• 37:14
  Speaker 13: And you know, somebody has to look at this.
• 37:18
  Speaker 10: While the Colorado Department of Social Services is not allowing
• 37:22
  Speaker 10: Mantage full custody or unsupervised visits with the children, the
• 37:27
  Speaker 10: family wants closure to this painful chapter of their lives.
• 37:32
  Speaker 8: We don't want to go street justice we want to
• 37:34
  Speaker 8: do this, the leak away, so then when it comes
• 37:38
  Speaker 8: to light and is proven guilty, there's no more.
• 37:41
  Speaker 10: Hiding and the question that will forever haunt them. Could
• 37:45
  Speaker 10: they have done more to protect Marina while she was alive?
• 37:49
  Speaker 8: I let her down, got true, believe my sister down.
• 37:54
  Speaker 8: She made it home. But now she's home in a
• 37:58
  Speaker 8: little chark that sits on my treasuret