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- 0:22Speaker 1: on the Front. I'm Claire Harvey. It's Tuesday, August thirteen.
- 0:29Speaker 1: Chatbots will be writing lesson plans and assignments in a
- 0:33Speaker 1: new Education Department trial, even as teachers are warned to
- 0:36Speaker 1: check the bot's answers. Australia could be left high and
- 0:43Speaker 1: dry on the nuclear submarine deal, with new treaty documents
- 0:46Speaker 1: revealing the US and UK can pull out with just
- 0:50Speaker 1: one year's notice if they decide it threatens their own
- 0:53Speaker 1: defense plans. That's an exclusive live now at the Australian
- 0:58Speaker 1: dot Com dot u. The government released dangerous non citizens
- 1:05Speaker 1: into the community with no visas and no way to
- 1:08Speaker 1: monitor them, and then misled the public about it. That's
- 1:12Speaker 1: an exclusive in The Australian Today and Today's Deep Dive
- 1:16Speaker 1: on the Front.
- 1:25Speaker 2: This is the issue that Anthony Albanez you wanted to
- 1:27Speaker 2: have off the agenda, but it is back to haunt
- 1:31Speaker 2: the government and the new Minister for Immigration and Home
- 1:35Speaker 2: Affairs Tony Burke.
- 1:37Speaker 1: The issue is illegal immigration, boat people, border security, and
- 1:42Speaker 1: it's the soundtrack to the Labor parties nightmares.
- 1:48Speaker 3: Elements in the coalition's plan to stop the boats finally
- 1:52Speaker 3: and fully stop the boats, stopping the boats now, I'm
- 1:55Speaker 3: interested in stopping the boats. And why I'm interested in
- 1:58Speaker 3: stopping the bats.
- 2:00Speaker 1: We have to have the will we are going to
- 2:01Speaker 1: stop the boats. Ever since they lost the twenty thirteen
- 2:06Speaker 1: election to Tony Abbott in large part because of a
- 2:09Speaker 1: surge in unauthorized maritime arrivals, Labor has a long term
- 2:14Speaker 1: case of the hebegbs about border integrity coming back to
- 2:18Speaker 1: bite it, and in November twenty twenty three it really did.
- 2:22Speaker 1: The immigration laws have been shaken up by a High
- 2:25Speaker 1: Court ruling.
- 2:26Speaker 4: For the last twenty years, the Australian government has been
- 2:29Speaker 4: able to detain non citizens who don't have a valid
- 2:33Speaker 4: visa or any prospect of deportation, but the High Court
- 2:37Speaker 4: has ruled that process is unlawful.
- 2:45Speaker 1: The test case at the center of that monumental High
- 2:48Speaker 1: Court decision can be named only as enz Yq. He
- 2:53Speaker 1: arrived by boat aged about sixteen in twenty twelve, at
- 2:58Speaker 1: the height of the influx of boat Enzedyq is from
- 3:02Speaker 1: Myanmar's persecuted Rohinja community. After arriving in Australia and being
- 3:08Speaker 1: granted a temporary visa, he sexually assaulted another Rowhinja refugee,
- 3:13Speaker 1: a ten year old boy. Enzedyq has served a prison
- 3:18Speaker 1: term for that offense, but on his release from jail,
- 3:21Speaker 1: the government deemed him not a legitimate refugee. He had
- 3:28Speaker 1: committed a serious criminal offense, which deemed him ineligible for
- 3:31Speaker 1: Australian citizenship, but when they tried to send him back
- 3:35Speaker 1: to Myanmar, he refused to go. The government held Enzedyq
- 3:40Speaker 1: in immigration detention at Sydney's Villawood Center, and the High
- 3:45Speaker 1: Court ruled that was illegal. The court said if a
- 3:48Speaker 1: non Australian citizen is refusing to go back to their
- 3:51Speaker 1: country of origin, Australia cannot hold them in indefinite detention.
- 3:56Speaker 1: That decision also freed another one hundred and fifty detail
- 4:00Speaker 1: and ease, including some serious offenders, murderers and rapists. For
- 4:05Speaker 1: most of the year, it's been a rolling disaster in Parliament.
- 4:10Speaker 5: Being an immigration detainee and child sex offender released by
- 4:14Speaker 5: the High Court. Has been arrested in Dandignong, accused of
- 4:18Speaker 5: using social media to contact children.
- 4:21Speaker 3: This is the reality of the High Court's decision. The
- 4:25Speaker 3: government did not choose to be in order positions.
- 4:31Speaker 1: Last month, Anthony Albanesi demoted the two ministers in charge,
- 4:35Speaker 1: Home Affairs Minister Claire O'Neil and Albanesi's old friend, Immigration
- 4:40Speaker 1: Minister Andrew Giles. The PM installed Tony Burke in their
- 4:44Speaker 1: place to try and resolve this issue before the next election,
- 4:49Speaker 1: due by September twenty twenty five.
- 4:52Speaker 2: Claire Well, I think what it shows is that you
- 4:55Speaker 2: can change your front bench, you can change the minister,
- 4:59Speaker 2: but it doesn't mean the political problems go away.
- 5:02Speaker 1: Joe Kelly is The Australian's National Affairs editor.
- 5:07Speaker 2: So we've got a new minister in the Immigration and
- 5:10Speaker 2: Home Affairs portfolio, and Tony Burke, but he still has
- 5:14Speaker 2: to clean up the mess that Andrew Giles left behind.
- 5:18Speaker 2: There are new questions about the government's response, and in
- 5:23Speaker 2: particular some of its claims at the time that all
- 5:26Speaker 2: the people who were released from immigration detention were subject
- 5:31Speaker 2: to strict visa conditions.
- 5:33Speaker 3: All of those who have been released from detention have
- 5:37Speaker 3: been granted and are on visas with appropriate conditions.
- 5:42Speaker 2: There are new documents which now question those claims and
- 5:46Speaker 2: in particular some of the statements that mister Giles made
- 5:50Speaker 2: to Parliament last November, just days after the landmark High
- 5:55Speaker 2: Court decision, And now Tony Burke is left in the
- 5:59Speaker 2: invidious position of having to deal with all of that.
- 6:02Speaker 1: Labor suffers from a bit of intergenerational trauma on asylum seekers,
- 6:07Speaker 1: boat people, border integrity. Their hearts must sink when they
- 6:11Speaker 1: see questions on this topic coming from you Joe across
- 6:14Speaker 1: their email.
- 6:15Speaker 2: Well, it's just a distraction for them at this stage.
- 6:18Speaker 2: They really don't want to be talking about this. This
- 6:21Speaker 2: is just bringing up negative stories from the past that
- 6:25Speaker 2: they don't really want to have to deal with.
- 6:29Speaker 1: Back in May, when the government was really floundering around
- 6:32Speaker 1: on this issue, Andrew Giles, the then Minister, said this
- 6:36Speaker 1: on Sky News.
- 6:38Speaker 3: There is a quarter of a billion dollars that we've
- 6:40Speaker 3: invested in supporting our law enforcement agencies to enforce that
- 6:44Speaker 3: and that's enabled things like using drones to keep track
- 6:47Speaker 3: of these people.
- 6:48Speaker 1: We know where they are drones monitoring the people who'd
- 6:53Speaker 1: been released by the High Court. Australia's military doesn't even
- 6:56Speaker 1: have a functional drone fleet. Who knew the Immigration Department
- 7:00Speaker 1: and had eyes in the sky appeering in the bedroom
- 7:02Speaker 1: windows of High Court Amansipees. Turns out that was completely wrong.
- 7:08Speaker 1: There were no drones, no drones at all, and Giles
- 7:12Speaker 1: had to admit it.
- 7:14Speaker 3: I relied on information provided by my department at the time,
- 7:18Speaker 3: which has since which has since been clur of members
- 7:22Speaker 3: on my land.
- 7:24Speaker 1: Today Joe is revealing documents obtained by the Coalition under
- 7:28Speaker 1: freedom of information laws that show what was really going
- 7:32Speaker 1: on in the background as the Minister was on his
- 7:34Speaker 1: feet in Parliament.
- 7:37Speaker 2: What we have uncovered a number of documents under freedom
- 7:41Speaker 2: of information laws and these are submissions that the Department
- 7:46Speaker 2: made to the then Minister Andrew Giles. So we have
- 7:51Speaker 2: eight submissions from the Department to Andrew Giles between November
- 7:56Speaker 2: ten and November sixteen, and it's apparent from these submissions
- 8:02Speaker 2: that there are individuals who have been released into the
- 8:06Speaker 2: community following the NZYQ decision and are residing in the
- 8:11Speaker 2: community as unlawful non citizens. And in each of these submissions,
- 8:17Speaker 2: mister Giles is being asked to transition a cohort of
- 8:23Speaker 2: people onto bridging visas. So it becomes clear that following
- 8:28Speaker 2: the nzed YQ decision very quickly, large numbers of people
- 8:34Speaker 2: were released from immigration to tens into the community at large.
- 8:38Speaker 2: They were not placed on appropriate visas with strict conditions
- 8:42Speaker 2: and the Government had to subsequently, after the fact of
- 8:46Speaker 2: their release, transition them onto bridging visas.
- 8:51Speaker 1: Joe asked the government detailed questions about this, and New
- 8:55Speaker 1: Minister Tony Burke said simply, the Government doesn't want these
- 8:59Speaker 1: people in the community at all and will put restrictions
- 9:02Speaker 1: on them to the maximum extent allowed by the law.
- 9:06Speaker 1: Burke didn't explain why they only granted the visas after
- 9:10Speaker 1: allowing the detainees out of custody. The consequences of the
- 9:18Speaker 1: High Court decision are still flowing. An Eritrean man who
- 9:21Speaker 1: was convicted of violent stabbing, assaults, threatening to kill and
- 9:25Speaker 1: arson is now in the High Court seeking to avoid
- 9:28Speaker 1: the surveillance conditions. Lawyers for the man say wearing an
- 9:32Speaker 1: ankle bracelet and having a nightly curfew are an infringement
- 9:35Speaker 1: on his liberty. That stories live now at the Australian
- 9:39Speaker 1: dot com You so will Immigration decide yet another election
- 9:46Speaker 1: will be back after this break? So Labour's dealing with
- 10:06Speaker 1: today's crisis in immigration as well as a rolling disaster
- 10:10Speaker 1: where it's been trying and failing to deport other non
- 10:13Speaker 1: citizens who commit crimes here in Australia. So I asked Joe,
- 10:19Speaker 1: Labor just keeps taking the hits on immigration and border protection.
- 10:23Speaker 1: The party has done years of soul searching on this issue.
- 10:27Speaker 1: Where does Labor actually stand now?
- 10:33Speaker 2: I think that there's been a bit of a road
- 10:36Speaker 2: to Damascus moment for Labor over the last fifteen years.
- 10:40Speaker 2: On border protection, we had the dismantling of the Howard
- 10:44Speaker 2: government's tougher position under the former Rudd and Gillard governments
- 10:50Speaker 2: where we saw so many boats coming to Australia, and
- 10:54Speaker 2: of course the tragedy of that was that so many
- 10:57Speaker 2: people unfortunately lost their lives. So I think there was
- 11:01Speaker 2: a debate over what truly is the most compassionate and
- 11:05Speaker 2: humane policy. I think Labor initially thought we need to
- 11:09Speaker 2: have a compassionate and humane policy and we're not going
- 11:12Speaker 2: to agree to these tough border protection measures. But I
- 11:15Speaker 2: think what essentially we've seen when Labor was trying to
- 11:19Speaker 2: get back into government that they decided that actually it
- 11:23Speaker 2: is humane, it is compassionate to have a tougher approach
- 11:27Speaker 2: on the borders, because we're essentially stopping people risking their
- 11:31Speaker 2: lives coming to Australia in these leaky boats. And so
- 11:36Speaker 2: one of the political questions that arises from that, clear
- 11:39Speaker 2: I think, is is this road to Damascus moment for
- 11:43Speaker 2: Labor on border protection genuine or is this just something
- 11:47Speaker 2: that they said and they're going through the motions with
- 11:50Speaker 2: because they knew they needed to do that to win
- 11:53Speaker 2: and stay in government. So there are questions about Andrew
- 11:57Speaker 2: Giles as true convictions in this regard, also to an extent,
- 12:01Speaker 2: Anthony Albanezi as well. So it's a tricky issue for
- 12:05Speaker 2: them and obviously there's a lot of people in their
- 12:08Speaker 2: base and on the left wing of the party who
- 12:11Speaker 2: don't like this move to the center that Labour's undergone
- 12:15Speaker 2: over the last several years on this particular issue.
- 12:26Speaker 1: The other big trial raging at the moment is, of course,
- 12:29Speaker 1: Linda Reynolds versus Brittany Higgins in the WA Supreme Court
- 12:33Speaker 1: on Tuesday. Scott Morrison's in the witness box. You can
- 12:36Speaker 1: follow it live at the Australian dot com dot Au