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22 Panels Episode #212 - We’re Thankful · 22 Panels - A Comic Book Podcast

• 0:02
  Tyler Johnson: Hey everybody, welcome back to 22 Panels. This is the podcast that aims to examine, explore, and elevate the medium of comics. I am Tyler, and across the interwebs.
• 0:16
  Tyler Johnson: from me are my good buddies Tad and.
• 0:20
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, try that again, Tyler.
• 0:23
  Tad Eggleston: Though, those thwips were… were weak.
• 0:26
  Tyler Johnson: Weak!
• 0:27
  Tyler Johnson: Alright, and across the interweb from me…
• 0:29
  Phil: with…
• 0:30
  Tyler Johnson: Now, across the interweb, There you go.
• 0:35
  Tyler Johnson: I have to push the noise really hard, because I think my beard blocks my AirPods.
• 0:42
  Tad Eggleston: And so…
• 0:44
  Phil: Blaming it on the beer.
• 0:46
  Tyler Johnson: On my end, they were… they were decent, you know.
• 0:48
  Tad Eggleston: I'm good.
• 0:49
  Tyler Johnson: Hi guys, how are you?
• 0:51
  Tad Eggleston: Pretty good, it's good to have you back for a day, and hopefully for a couple more, because we got a…
• 0:57
  Tad Eggleston: We're gonna…
• 0:58
  Phil: Let's bring you back into this.
• 0:59
  Tad Eggleston: Black Hammer and a Monstrous episode, and then we got year-end stuff, and I know you wanted to come back for that, so, like…
• 1:06
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, the year-end stuff will be really cool. I feel like, for sure…
• 1:10
  Tad Eggleston: I feel like you should be coming back pretty much for the rest of the year now, because we've got Black Hammer, Monstrous, and then 3…
• 1:19
  Tad Eggleston: year-end episodes, so I'm just tossing that out there, Tyler. We can schedule around you.
• 1:26
  Tad Eggleston: We'll have to see.
• 1:26
  Tyler Johnson: Saturdays… Saturdays are pretty tough because of our work schedule.
• 1:30
  Tad Eggleston: Well, it's Sunday morning right now. We can…
• 1:33
  Tyler Johnson: It is Sunday.
• 1:35
  Tad Eggleston: Long enough to… Again, we can schedule around you.
• 1:39
  Tyler Johnson: Yes, that sounds good.
• 1:40
  Tad Eggleston: Even though there's a good chance I'll be working at Comic Shop Sundays.
• 1:44
  Tyler Johnson: Oh, you're gonna do… we're not open Sundays, so that's good.
• 1:47
  Tad Eggleston: Huh?
• 1:47
  Tyler Johnson: but…
• 1:49
  Tad Eggleston: we're kind of test ballooning the Sunday by having me go in and do it.
• 1:54
  Tad Eggleston: So…
• 1:56
  Tyler Johnson: We're doing it today because of a Santa Claus in town kind of thing.
• 2:00
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 2:01
  Tyler Johnson: So we will be open today.
• 2:04
  Tyler Johnson: Normally, we are kicking Sundays off.
• 2:07
  Tad Eggleston: So, episode 212?
• 2:11
  Tad Eggleston: I've been doing a better job of actually saying that.
• 2:15
  Phil: I sometimes forget.
• 2:17
  Phil: You know, you know what, we definitely need to do a better job of is mentioning the Patreon.
• 2:22
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, well, yeah, yeah, if you want to give us a few bucks on Patreon, we will totally take it.
• 2:29
  Phil: Goes to a, if, if we.
• 2:31
  Tad Eggleston: And Tyler, are you posting on Instagram while you're talking to us?
• 2:35
  Phil: At this moment?
• 2:37
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 2:37
  Tad Eggleston: I just got an alert for a Nexus Vault Instagram post.
• 2:43
  Tyler Johnson: No, my partner handles our social media.
• 2:46
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, okay, okay. So he's supposed to manage… I mean.
• 2:51
  Tyler Johnson: Don't play.
• 2:51
  Tad Eggleston: You'd be allowed to post on immigrant… Instagram while you were talking.
• 2:54
  Tyler Johnson: Not me at the moment, but no, that's… that's our partner.
• 2:58
  Tad Eggleston: Your Instagram needs to be liking us more often. We like you.
• 3:02
  Tyler Johnson: I will, get on that.
• 3:05
  Phil: I'm a realization right now.
• 3:07
  Tyler Johnson: Cause that's not me, I… I… it is not me, I'm sorry about that.
• 3:11
  Tad Eggleston: I'm just messing with you.
• 3:12
  Phil: Tyler, why don't you like us? Why don't you like us on Instagram, even?
• 3:15
  Tad Eggleston: I'm just missing…
• 3:16
  Tyler Johnson: Hold on, hold on, I will go… I don't… can we have two people in an Instagram account at the same time?
• 3:22
  Tad Eggleston: I don't know.
• 3:24
  Tad Eggleston: Don't worry about it a little bit.
• 3:25
  Phil: the streams, but… For Mark Zuckerberg, whatever he.
• 3:28
  Tyler Johnson: So, I don't know…
• 3:29
  Tad Eggleston: Actually, what I really need to do is have Kelly make up a poster to send out to you to put up to plug the show in shop.
• 3:36
  Tyler Johnson: For sure.
• 3:36
  Tad Eggleston: And then your customers will start expecting you to come back.
• 3:39
  Phil: Well, and the poster would have to have his face on it, naturally.
• 3:42
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, we could do that.
• 3:43
  Phil: Yeah.
• 3:44
  Phil: There's a three-face version.
• 3:46
  Tyler Johnson: A three-phase one, yeah.
• 3:47
  Phil: Oh, I haven't seen the three-faced one.
• 3:49
  Tyler Johnson: Make sure there's a QR code so that they can go right to it, kind of thing, but… Right.
• 3:55
  Phil: Oh, that's a smart move, too.
• 3:57
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, that'.
• 3:57
  Tad Eggleston: Let's roll through the news so we can get to the thankful part, because we need a thankful episode.
• 4:04
  Tad Eggleston: We've had too much heaviness. So,
• 4:09
  Tad Eggleston: We've taken slightly deeper dives into this for a while, but 90 are… who needs to be out of the Angleme business entirely, officially suspended this year's edition of Engleme. They refused to cancel it yet.
• 4:27
  Phil: Jeez.
• 4:28
  Tad Eggleston: Because they… they are under some misguided…
• 4:33
  Tad Eggleston: idea that it might go on with them,
• 4:39
  Tad Eggleston: It's pretty clear.
• 4:41
  Phil: Yeah. Hoping to sweep it under the rug, but yeah, that was…
• 4:44
  Tad Eggleston: Right, I mean, particularly as the previously, unnamed .
• 4:53
  Tad Eggleston: Employee who was sexually assaulted.
• 4:56
  Tad Eggleston: last year, and then fired for reporting it, is now named. She's come out and been doing interviews,
• 5:05
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah… Yeah.
• 5:07
  Tyler Johnson: Crazy.
• 5:08
  Tad Eggleston: away, and then we need to get Angelen back.
• 5:12
  Tad Eggleston: But, in happier news, we have, The Beat has their holiday gift guides out, and as always, they are fantastic, so, like, if you have comic lovers in your life, and we're not good enough in terms of all of the stuff we tell you is awesome, The Beat often fills in gaps that we miss.
• 5:31
  Tad Eggleston: And for that matter, if you've got video game lovers or whatnot, the stuff that we don't cover, the beat does, so go check out Heidi's…
• 5:40
  Tad Eggleston: Heidi and companies work.
• 5:41
  Phil: I was gonna say, who do you think has been telling me about good stuff for the past 10 years in comics, you know? That's our secret weapon.
• 5:49
  Phil: Right, right.
• 5:50
  Tad Eggleston: What kind of week has it been? Well.
• 5:55
  Tyler Johnson: Been crazy.
• 5:56
  Phil: A lot of turkeys out there.
• 5:57
  Tad Eggleston: It turns out that Pete Hegseth is enough of a war criminal that there are actually Republicans who are now calling for investigation. Armed Services Committees in both chambers
• 6:12
  Tad Eggleston: Have… have announced that they will be investigating the…
• 6:16
  Tad Eggleston: extrajudicial killings, also known as war crimes, or really, since we're not at war, murder. Yeah.
• 6:24
  Tyler Johnson: Doesn't it feel like he's just trying to, like, flex his muscles and show, like, I can do this if I want to?
• 6:30
  Tad Eggleston: It is crazy.
• 6:31
  Phil: Pretty, pretty stupid.
• 6:32
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, yeah.
• 6:32
  Phil: behavior for, yeah.
• 6:34
  Phil: politician.
• 6:35
  Tad Eggleston: So, I mean, again, upside, looks like there might actually be investigations. Whether there'll be consequences, we'll see. Meanwhile,
• 6:49
  Tad Eggleston: It's so hard to even know how to handle this one, because it's a tragedy, it's a horrible thing. Two members of the West Virginia National Guard were shot in D.C, one has died, the other is still in critical condition.
• 7:04
  Tad Eggleston: Thankfully, it's not going without being said that they… are probably illegally in DC?
• 7:14
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah.
• 7:18
  Tad Eggleston: But… still, there are a lot of people that want to make it about the Afghan refugee who…
• 7:28
  Tad Eggleston: Got them.
• 7:30
  Tad Eggleston: Gore allegedly shot them.
• 7:32
  Tad Eggleston: And tie it to immigration and how we shouldn't do that, blah blah blah.
• 7:37
  Tad Eggleston: But Spencer Ackerman.
• 7:42
  Tad Eggleston: Friend of the podcast.
• 7:44
  Tad Eggleston: Pulitzer winning.
• 7:45
  Tad Eggleston: Pulitzer Prize winning.
• 7:47
  Tad Eggleston: national security reporter has a piece at Sateo.
• 7:51
  Tad Eggleston: Talking specifically about how this particular Afghan refugee worked for us in Afghanistan.
• 7:58
  Tad Eggleston: On what can really only be called kill squads, run by the CIA.
• 8:06
  Phil: At an incredibly young age.
• 8:08
  Tad Eggleston: so…
• 8:11
  Phil: That's true.
• 8:12
  Tad Eggleston: everybody to go read that piece, I'm gonna drop a link into… Our, our, our show…
• 8:19
  Tad Eggleston: I don't even know what you call the part that goes on the
• 8:22
  Tad Eggleston: out to all the podcast services or whatnot, like, not full show notes, everybody knows I'm way behind on the blog.
• 8:30
  Tad Eggleston: But… But I'll drop the link in the way I often drop Kickstarter links or whatever in.
• 8:39
  Phil: Yeah, I'd be… I'd be very interested to read.
• 8:41
  Tad Eggleston: It's worth their details.
• 8:43
  Phil: Yeah.
• 8:43
  Tad Eggleston: Oops.
• 8:45
  Phil: I was gonna go out on a limb and say that, I, I don't think that…
• 8:51
  Phil: There is a lot of, crime across the country from…
• 8:56
  Phil: you know, immigrants, people from foreign countries… Oh, statistically speaking, there really isn't.
• 9:01
  Tad Eggleston: Exactly, yeah. Even less from illegal immigrants.
• 9:04
  Phil: Exactly. So when it does happen, there are extenuating circumstances, and something really fucked up and wrong has happened, clearly. And so that's why I'm glad.
• 9:11
  Tad Eggleston: Most of the time.
• 9:12
  Phil: has the details, you know.
• 9:14
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, yeah.
• 9:14
  Phil: Should never be taken as, as, you know, a reason to…
• 9:21
  Phil: I don't know, yeah, it sounds like a personal tragedy.
• 9:24
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I just… I don't… I don't have the energy to…
• 9:28
  Phil: Yeah.
• 9:29
  Tad Eggleston: Get into the politics of a couple of guardsmen being shot right now.
• 9:34
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, I mean, it's the…
• 9:35
  Tad Eggleston: The people that are playing politics with it are also lying.
• 9:39
  Phil: Oh yeah, as per usual.
• 9:41
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, boy.
• 9:43
  Tad Eggleston: So, anyway, let us… Talk some new-to-order comics.
• 9:51
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, this is gonna be exciting. This is Archie versus Er…
• 9:56
  Tyler Johnson: I don't know, how do you pronounce the X? Is it verb?
• 9:59
  Tad Eggleston: I just go, Archie X, Army of Darkness.
• 10:03
  Phil: Okay, Archie X, Army of Darkness number 1. You actually have to multiply it?
• 10:08
  Tyler Johnson: Eric Birdo.
• 10:09
  Tyler Johnson: Bill Gavilan. It's a teenage nightmare. There's a certain man named Ash, you may have heard of him, who is doomed to battle against the forces of evil over and over again, whether he likes it or not.
• 10:24
  Tyler Johnson: Now, no matter where he goes, the cycle of violence always repeats itself until the day that he arrives in the picturesque town of Riverdale.
• 10:35
  Tyler Johnson: This supernaturally wholesome community seems to break the curse that has plagued Ash ever since he encountered its otherworldly evil all those years ago. Or rather, the curse was broken.
• 10:48
  Tyler Johnson: Until an over-curious teenager named Archie finds a copy of the Necromica… Necronomicon?
• 10:55
  Tyler Johnson: Exmortis, and reads a portion of it aloud, summoning the horrifying dead… deadites once again. Now, Ash and the good townsfolk of Riverdale must hold back the undead hordes long enough for Archie to undo what he's unwillingly done.
• 11:13
  Tyler Johnson: Otherwise, an army of darkness will roll over Riverdale and destroy everything and everyone in the path.
• 11:20
  Tyler Johnson: And that's just not going to happen on Ashley J. Williams' watch.
• 11:25
  Tyler Johnson: This looks really good, you guys. It's gonna be in stores on February 4th of 26.
• 11:32
  Tad Eggleston: more to cover.
• 11:32
  Tyler Johnson: It's weird to say 26.
• 11:33
  Tad Eggleston: February 5th.
• 11:35
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 11:35
  Tyler Johnson: That's weird.
• 11:36
  Tad Eggleston: This is totally one that, I would have made fun of 10 years ago, and then I read Archie vs. Predator, and never again. Never again will I make fun of an Archie crossover with anything.
• 11:49
  Tyler Johnson: I, this is not a plug.
• 11:51
  Tad Eggleston: At least…
• 11:52
  Tyler Johnson: I am…
• 11:52
  Tad Eggleston: At least not before reading it.
• 11:54
  Tyler Johnson: I have an Army of Darkness comic in my shop right now that's, like, 80 bucks. So, I mean, that property is still popular.
• 12:03
  Phil: How did that?
• 12:03
  Tad Eggleston: And you can plug your store all you want. Nexus Vault, La Verne, Minnesota.
• 12:09
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, I'm doing, the comic shop lately, that's why I haven't been on the show, but it's been fun. I'm really having a great time, I'm happy that it's.
• 12:20
  Tad Eggleston: My… well, we'll get to the thankful part. NexusVault.com.
• 12:25
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah. People can help…
• 12:27
  Tad Eggleston: Tyler out by… people can help Tyler out by ordering stuff there, and the more you order, the more likely he is to be able to come back to be on the show, because he can hire somebody to be there on weekends.
• 12:39
  Tyler Johnson: We… we did have somebody, and he quit on us.
• 12:44
  Tyler Johnson: We'll get into that. We'll get into that.
• 12:46
  Tad Eggleston: Barbarian Behind Bars, number one, from Elliot Kalen and Andrea Moody, the team that gave us,
• 12:55
  Tad Eggleston: Oh god, why can't I remember? It was an Aftershock book that went away about the… a slasher in the trains of…
• 13:04
  Tad Eggleston: Or in New York, and I'm just…
• 13:06
  Tyler Johnson: Maniac of New York?
• 13:07
  Tad Eggleston: Maniac of… yeah, Maniac of New York.
• 13:10
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah.
• 13:10
  Tad Eggleston: have re-teamed up for Barbarian Behind Bars. Who is this mysterious, muscle-bound warrior who came to our world in a storm of magic and violence?
• 13:20
  Tad Eggleston: That's what public defender Irene Chang wants to know. The guy came out of nowhere, doesn't speak English, and now she's supposed to help him beat a murder charge after he chopped some other weird dude's head off with a magic axe in broad daylight?
• 13:34
  Tad Eggleston: Of course, he may not live to go to trial with all the enemies he's making in prison.
• 13:39
  Tad Eggleston: Good thing his cellmate grills a mean cheese sandwich.
• 13:45
  Tad Eggleston: Final order cutoff is January 19th in stores on February 11th.
• 13:54
  Phil: Alright, next up we've got Bleeding Hearts No. 1 from Dennis Camp and Stepin Morian, the red-hot writer of Absolute Martian Manhunter, and we're skipping that preamble to The Zombies won, and 10 years after the fall of humanity. They're the dominant form of life, or not life, on Earth.
• 14:12
  Phil: They've developed their own cultural practices, their own language, their own society. Mouse pokes golf ball through hole in head, poke for short, is a beloved member of his community, and with his brother-in-arm mush, he's happy to shamble along through the only world he can remember, until the day his heart mysteriously starts beating again.
• 14:32
  Phil: And in a blink, the first human he…
• 14:34
  Phil: Humans he sees have stopped looking like food, and have started looking like
• 14:39
  Phil: Friends, the team behind 20th Century Men, the bold mission statement that launched writer Dennis Camp and artist Stephen Morian to the next level of the comics industry, have reunited to bring you a world ruled by ruthless kill-or-be-killed logic, pitted against the demands of a single beating, bleeding emotional heart.
• 14:57
  Phil: Final order cut off, January 19th, in stores, February 11th.
• 15:04
  Tad Eggleston: Diorc.
• 15:05
  Tad Eggleston: Half Dwarf, half arc.
• 15:08
  Tad Eggleston: Orc.
• 15:08
  Tad Eggleston: Armed with nothing but a magical, yet ambitiously violent shield.
• 15:14
  Tyler Johnson: I think that's pronounced dork, sorry. I just…
• 15:17
  Phil: Could be.
• 15:17
  Tad Eggleston: I think it is, but I decided to have fun with it.
• 15:20
  Phil: I like… I like that. New York.
• 15:21
  Tyler Johnson: Okay, alright, sorry, Ted, go on.
• 15:24
  Tad Eggleston: with nothing but a magical yet ambitiously violent shield, a lonely orphan stumbles head-first into Sunderain's never-ending war between light and dark. Elves versus orcs. Wizards vs. common sense, dragons vs. Literally Everyone, and caught dead center, Diorc.
• 15:45
  Tad Eggleston: With a wholly, inconvenient doomsday prophecy, the half-dwarf, half-arch, Ald York, is spated to end the world soon. Every human, elf, goblin, dwarf, snargle-tooth, Necroid, ice giant, trauma llama.
• 16:02
  Tad Eggleston: Trauma Llama, are you gonna bring Trauma Llamas?
• 16:05
  Tyler Johnson: Mama Llama Red Pajama, Trauma Llama.
• 16:08
  Tad Eggleston: And at least 3 other unpronounceable magical creatures will know his name and want him dead. There will also be a chicken. This is from Brett Bean.
• 16:19
  Tad Eggleston: And Jean-Francois Bolou?
• 16:24
  Tad Eggleston: Final order cutoff is January 12th in stores on February 4th.
• 16:29
  Tad Eggleston: from Image Comics.
• 16:34
  Tyler Johnson: Alright, this happens to be, quickly one of my favorite new, not new, this is an old IP, but comic books that I'm getting into is DuckTales. This is the DuckTales Valentine's Day Special 2026 by, Connor Ratliff and James III.
• 16:53
  Tyler Johnson: Well, or is it James Ill? I don't know.
• 16:56
  Tad Eggleston: No, it's James III.
• 16:58
  Tyler Johnson: Okay, and then, art by Libero Ermetti?
• 17:02
  Tyler Johnson: All fair in love and sorcery, the world's richest duck didn't accumulate his uncomfortable cajilions by being anyone's fool.
• 17:12
  Tyler Johnson: And no one is more foolish than a fool in love. So when February 14th rolls around, and the unsolicited cards and presents from charlatans and two-timers start piling up on his desk.
• 17:23
  Tyler Johnson: Scrooge McDuck has multiple levels of precautions in place to neutralize all of their nefarious schemes. One age-old adversary, however, has forged a plan to bypass all of McDuck Money Bin's famed offenses and secure the ultimate prize, Uncle Scrooge's precious number one dime.
• 17:43
  Tyler Johnson: The, indefinite… I can't… what is that? Independable.
• 17:48
  Tyler Johnson: The indefatable magicka dispel just needs to get close enough to Scrooge to cloud his mind with the rare forget-me-do flower.
• 17:59
  Tyler Johnson: But when the single-minded sorceress is caught in the same memory-fogging spell as her quarry, all bets are off. Romance is suddenly in the air.
• 18:08
  Tyler Johnson: Having forgotten their long history of enmity, could these rival ducks turn into cooing lovebirds?
• 18:16
  Tyler Johnson: The final order cutoff is January 12th, and this will be in stores February 11th.
• 18:26
  Phil: Alright, now it's time for the Florida Hippopotamus Cocaine Massacre.
• 18:31
  Tyler Johnson: It's just not the title.
• 18:33
  Phil: by Fred Kennedy and James Edward Clark. Disco Hippo Wonderland is the number one amusement park in Flamingo City, but few realize its corpulent owner, Janz Major Disco, is about to release the most potent drug ever created, Coke 45.
• 18:51
  Phil: Fortunately for humanity, Agent Clark Nebraska is on the case. She'll bring down Disco home come heck or high water. That was the plan until her undercover agent, Tico Senecoza, was captured. And before she can rescue him, Mikael, Tico's sexy loose cannon of an older brother, beats her to the punch, storming into the park with bullets flying. Disco panics, dumping the Coke-45 into the hippo enclosure and
• 19:16
  Phil: letting them loose on the park before fleeing into Wonderland's tunnel network. Nebraska's plans are lawfully… are totally off the rails, and things get worse when a marijuana smoke-fueled hurricane drowns the park in torrential rain. Now it's up to Nebraska and Mikel to create an uncomfortable truce to bring Disco down before he escapes.
• 19:36
  Phil: Final order cutoff, January 26th, in stores, February 18th, from Mad Cave.
• 19:43
  Tyler Johnson: They look great. This kind of silly, crazy stories, I love them.
• 19:48
  Phil: Yeah.
• 19:50
  Tad Eggleston: I like up here that you've got, in quotes, fearless Fred Kennedy and James, quote, Edward Clark.
• 19:57
  Phil: Yeah, that's a pretty good one. It's a pretty good one.
• 20:01
  Tyler Johnson: quote.
• 20:02
  Phil: Oh…
• 20:05
  Tyler Johnson: Alright.
• 20:05
  Tad Eggleston: Alright, so…
• 20:06
  Tyler Johnson: Graphic novels.
• 20:07
  Tad Eggleston: Travels, yeah.
• 20:08
  Tyler Johnson: Alright, this is Detective Stanley in The Green Thumb Thief by Hannah Tuniklife, Erica Harrison from Flying Eye Books.
• 20:19
  Tyler Johnson: Alright, a clever, funny comic for young readers. Oh, I'll skip that. It's a botanical burglary who is swiping precious and priceless plants from the gnarly bone gardens. Barnaby Moss, head of horticulture, is flummoxed. Someone is thieving very rare specimens from the winter garden, and they are worth a lot of money.
• 20:39
  Tyler Johnson: The latest detective, Stanley Mystery.
• 20:42
  Tyler Johnson: is curlier than a vine and full of twisty secrets. Join Detective Stanley and his pal Parker Pine to catch the botanical Bandit. A perfect crime for young readers moving on from picture books, children who love comics, or anyone who likes a good mystery.
• 20:59
  Tyler Johnson: Guys, this is gonna be a final order cut off of January 5th, that's my mom's birthday, and we'll be in stores February 3rd.
• 21:09
  Tyler Johnson: Looks good. I'm gonna order that one for sure. I need more. This,
• 21:14
  Tyler Johnson: Children's titles, you know?
• 21:18
  Tad Eggleston: I've been highlighting them all. You have this wonderful resource. You can just go look at the most recent show notes and have a rundown of everything that I thought was interesting in both catalogs.
• 21:30
  Tyler Johnson: The… the issue is I'm going by final order cutoff when I'm ordering.
• 21:35
  Tad Eggleston: No, I understand.
• 21:36
  Tyler Johnson: And so I'm… your stuff is by, The order… New to Oracle.
• 21:44
  Tad Eggleston: But I do also do the final order cutoff a week ahead of time.
• 21:48
  Tyler Johnson: True, yep.
• 21:50
  Tyler Johnson: You do.
• 21:52
  Tyler Johnson: Alright, good to know.
• 21:55
  Tad Eggleston: You know, these are the options.
• 21:57
  Tad Eggleston: The next one's mine as well, good lord, sorry guys.
• 21:59
  Tad Eggleston: Bring it back to back, man!
• 22:00
  Phil: Back, you too.
• 22:02
  Tyler Johnson: Frankenstein unconquered. Yeah, it is me.
• 22:05
  Tad Eggleston: They can't.
• 22:06
  Phil: Yep.
• 22:06
  Tyler Johnson: Book 1 from Wells Thompson, Dalton K. Shannon, Mary Landreau, Elizabeth McKenzie, and Dahlia Maha from Hermes Press.
• 22:17
  Tyler Johnson: 500 years after the end of Mary Shelley's novel, the Arctic thaws and the beast awakens to a bombed-out apocalypse as hideous and hostile as he is.
• 22:28
  Tyler Johnson: Seeing an opportunity to reinvent himself and live the peaceful life he always wanted, the Beast attempts to live simply with villagers who are unafraid of his ghastly appearance.
• 22:40
  Tyler Johnson: But when soldiers come to collect their due, violence is the only answer, and his dream of a simple life is ripped away in a nightmare of his own design. Having followed his warpath to its bloody conclusion, the beast was exiled to the stars, his legacy tarnished, his family flayed before his eyes.
• 22:59
  Tyler Johnson: This looks awesome, you guys. It's gonna… Final order cutoff is January 19th, and it will be in storage February 18th.
• 23:10
  Phil: Alright, next up is Genderqueer, the annotated edition, from Maya Kobabe, Phoebe Kobabe, Justin Hall, Randy Som.
• 23:22
  Phil: This special annotated edition calls on voices from academic and creative communities to further shed light on Kobabe's work, exploring the technicalities of comic creation, the history of the LGBTQIA plus community, and highlighting personal anecdotes from a host of writers and artists discussing their own experiences growing up queer, featuring commentary from designer and animator Phoebe Kobabe, the
• 23:47
  Phil: VCs of, okay, cartoonist Ashley R. Guillory, Dr. Sandra Cox, Matthew, no…
• 23:57
  Phil: And author Hal Shreve, and many more. This beautiful hardcover edition promises to be a wonderful educational tool for years to come. Final order cutoff of April 27th, in stores, May 20th.
• 24:13
  Tad Eggleston: And I had them skip to the annotation parts, because.
• 24:17
  Phil: Yes.
• 24:17
  Tad Eggleston: Most people…
• 24:19
  Tad Eggleston: that listen to this podcast, at least, know… know one of the most banned books in America is genderqueer, and a lot of why, and probably have gone and watched…
• 24:31
  Tad Eggleston: Senator Kennedy from Louisiana.
• 24:35
  Tad Eggleston: Reading what he thinks is the most objectionable section without bothering to show that the… that the pictures for that section are, like.
• 24:44
  Phil: Oh, yeah.
• 24:45
  Tad Eggleston: bonus.
• 24:46
  Phil: It's absolute.
• 24:46
  Tad Eggleston: Absolutely.
• 24:47
  Phil: It's absolutely bonkers, the… the whole blue over that book, but yeah, everybody needs to know about it.
• 24:53
  Tad Eggleston: Yep.
• 24:54
  Tad Eggleston: Meta Doggos, a wisecracking dystopian visual feast. Gail Caldera is a self-styled junkyard dog who runs with his crew, the Metadogos, a squad of teenage dirtbags living in a techno megalopolis, the Metastation. With no place to crash after losing his friend's guitar, he drops a tab of Metadogo at Late Night Rave
• 25:19
  Tad Eggleston: with his friends, and everything goes sideways. Strobing lights, teeming dance floors, and endless skyscrapers from an eerie, futuristic backdrop for this daring, imaginative exploration of race, class, and belonging through the lens of youth culture and science fiction. Translated by Montana Kane, Mandadagos reinvents the cyberpunk fairy tale in the vein of Tank Girl, Blade Runner, and
• 25:43
  Tad Eggleston: 11 rockets, this is from Bernice?
• 25:46
  Tad Eggleston: Or Berenice?
• 25:47
  Tad Eggleston: Motoi des Narbonne.
• 25:50
  Tad Eggleston: At Drawn and Quarterly, final order cutoff is January 12th in stores on March 4th.
• 25:58
  Phil: Yeah, that looks awesome.
• 25:59
  Tad Eggleston: It does.
• 26:00
  Phil: Alright, here we have Tamiya and the Memories of the Dragon from David…
• 26:06
  Phil: Brania and Pahito? Little Tamiya and her father must overcome a difficult time in their lives. To do so, they decide to spend their summer vacation in Damar, a beautiful town with delicious pastries, mysterious shopkeepers, and no tech…
• 26:22
  Phil: technology. On their first night, Tamiya is awakened by a weird noise. A dragon. Sawsut, has broken in, seeking something?
• 26:31
  Phil: But is Sosut a dream, or is he a new friend? Adventure awaits as Tamiya and Sosut seek something lost and learn about the world and themselves in the process. Final order cutoff of January 19th in stores February 11th, and that's gonna be from Paper Cuts.
• 26:48
  Tad Eggleston: Paper cuts.
• 26:49
  Phil: Yeah, that looks really fun.
• 26:50
  Tad Eggleston: Tyler, if you're looking for kids' stuff… I was gonna say…
• 26:53
  Phil: This is very well curated. This. Really good stuff. I gotta remember this one.
• 26:57
  Tyler Johnson: I have got… yeah, I've been getting paper cuts.
• 27:01
  Tad Eggleston: They, they give, they give…
• 27:03
  Tad Eggleston: Scholastic Graphics a run for their money in terms of…
• 27:07
  Phil: I agree.
• 27:07
  Tad Eggleston: Best stuff.
• 27:08
  Tyler Johnson: Quite a few paper cut stuff.
• 27:09
  Phil: I think I might get that for my niece for her birthday. That's also a shout-out to my sister-in-law, Kelly, if she's listening. Hey, Kelly!
• 27:16
  Tad Eggleston: Vincent van Gogh, sadness will last forever.
• 27:21
  Tad Eggleston: A gorgeously rendered, emotional exploration of the life and death of one of the most famously tormented painters in human history.
• 27:29
  Tad Eggleston: Through an emotional dialogue between Vincent and his own madness, the artist revisits the most significant loves and losses of his short life.
• 27:37
  Tad Eggleston: From his tender and tumultuous relationship with his brother Theo, to the famous quarrel with Gauguin that resulted in the self-mutilation of his ear, to the extreme act of self-harm that led to his death.
• 27:49
  Tad Eggleston: Vincent van Gogh channeled an extraordinary light as bright today as it was upon his death in 1890.
• 27:57
  Tad Eggleston: Now, in print for the first time in English, Van Gogh, Sadness Is Forever casts its own light onto the dark, darkest shadows of the painter's life and inspirations. This is from Francesco Berilli and Saka, and it's a Mad Cave Becca Gyalo
• 28:15
  Tad Eggleston: release. Final order cutoff is February 2nd, and in-store date is February 25th.
• 28:24
  Tad Eggleston: So how about some collections?
• 28:26
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah.
• 28:28
  Tyler Johnson: Let's see here… iTyrant, this has been selling pretty well for me in single issue, but, yeah.
• 28:36
  Tad Eggleston: I've heard good things.
• 28:37
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, it's by E.E. Zahn, Godfar from Image Comics.
• 28:43
  Tyler Johnson: The lives of a struggling but madly ambitious Iranian playwright and an Arab serpent king from 611 AD, who once was given the power to halt death itself in its tracks, became, become
• 28:59
  Tyler Johnson: read to you.
• 29:00
  Tyler Johnson: Reticulated.
• 29:02
  Tyler Johnson: Around a reticulated… I can't read.
• 29:05
  Tyler Johnson: Around a non-zero-sum game.
• 29:09
  Tyler Johnson: Epic action and magical mythology clash when Zahak, a fearsome legend infamous for his stark depiction of tyrants, proposes to Hafez to toss out the death-dealing up
• 29:22
  Tyler Johnson: unpromising myths of 7th C conclusion.
• 29:27
  Tyler Johnson: Instead, Hafez must retell it with a Kirby exodus for Zahaq.
• 29:33
  Tyler Johnson: To give his tale a Miller reboot in the comic industry, Hafez must also deal with the risk of deportation to Iran.
• 29:42
  Tyler Johnson: And going home to a past, and a looming persecution he does not want to face. This is, awesome, you guys. It's got a final order cut off of January 12th, and it's gonna be in stores February 18th.
• 29:57
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, Josh Eisureich was telling me about this, and it sounds really good. I'm gonna have to go catch up.
• 30:05
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, it looks great. I have not read it either, but it, you know, I…
• 30:09
  Tyler Johnson: There's an issue out this week, that's why it's on my mind, so…
• 30:14
  Tad Eggleston: The Killer Affairs of the State 2. This is another one that we should bring you back to discuss, because we did all of the killer.
• 30:21
  Tyler Johnson: I'm reading this in issues right now.
• 30:23
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I am too. The assassin returns, and this time, the job gets personal.
• 30:29
  Tad Eggleston: Now operating out of a secluded cabin in the mountains of South…
• 30:33
  Tad Eggleston: of the south of France, the killer has developed a straightforward routine. Take the job, complete the mission, disappear. But when an unexpected neighbor with her own dark past suddenly disrupts his carefully managed solitude, it becomes the catalyst for a mission unlike any he's taken before.
• 30:49
  Tad Eggleston: After uncovering a sprawling human trafficking operation with international ties, the killer is forced to confront not only his enemies, but also the limits of a dangerous
• 31:00
  Tad Eggleston: Quality, the potential to care despite his own attachment.
• 31:07
  Tad Eggleston: This is from Motz and Luke Giacomon at Boom Archaea. Final order cutoff is January 26th, and in stores on April 28th.
• 31:21
  Tyler Johnson: really good.
• 31:22
  Tad Eggleston: I love the killer.
• 31:23
  Tyler Johnson: So good.
• 31:27
  Phil: Alrighty, and then we've got Re-Trailer Trash, Volume 1 from Natalie Wong and Alyssa Villery, and Yishan Lee.
• 31:36
  Phil: Tabitha Moore has lived a miserable life of regret and being treated as trailer trash Tabitha. But after a mishap with an MRI, her mind is sent back to 1998 and into her 16-year-old body. With her life now in front of her, maybe this is the chance to redo her life.
• 31:54
  Phil: But is it so easy to change what you've already lived through? It's gonna be…
• 31:58
  Phil: final order cutoff of January 5th in stores, March 11th, and that is going to be from Webtoon and Volume.
• 32:08
  Phil: and vaults.
• 32:11
  Tad Eggleston: Alrighty, so Tyler, you want to announce our new thing, rather than making people now sit through 20 minutes of us reading through all of the things.
• 32:24
  Tyler Johnson: All of it.
• 32:24
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 32:25
  Tyler Johnson: Sure. Alright, guys, if you want a complete rundown of, the list that we're talking about, jump to, the… after the next page, or the next page, I should say. Yeah.
• 32:38
  Tad Eggleston: Stick around after this…
• 32:40
  Tyler Johnson: Around…
• 32:41
  Tad Eggleston: For the next page.
• 32:44
  Tyler Johnson: stick around, and that'll be brought to you by, my new shop, the Nexus Vault, in La Verne, Minnesota. We have been up and going for a month, and it has been a blast.
• 32:55
  Tyler Johnson: I am exhausted, because we had a hire, but like I said, he decided that was too much work, because.
• 33:05
  Phil: Dun dun!
• 33:06
  Tyler Johnson: It has taken off. I'm just gonna say that, like, we're busy a lot. Awesome. That's great. And the person that we hired has a little bit of social anxiety, and I knew that, and…
• 33:18
  Tad Eggleston: Comics? No.
• 33:20
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah…
• 33:21
  Phil: You know.
• 33:21
  Tyler Johnson: And I knew that, and it… after our literally opening day, he was like, I… I can't do this. I'm like, okay.
• 33:29
  Tyler Johnson: And we decided we're gonna try.
• 33:31
  Tad Eggleston: to be, like, the Tuesday guy.
• 33:33
  Tyler Johnson: Well, currently, we're not open Tuesdays.
• 33:37
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, so you're closed Sunday through Tuesday?
• 33:40
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, yup.
• 33:40
  Tad Eggleston: Okay.
• 33:41
  Tyler Johnson: It's not a bad… it's not a bad idea. Yeah, Wednesday through Saturdays are, days that we are open, so…
• 33:47
  Tad Eggleston: Gotcha.
• 33:48
  Tyler Johnson: Yep.
• 33:50
  Tad Eggleston: So, yeah, those are also brought to you by Modern Age Comics in Algonquin, Illinois. So, we got comic shops in two states.
• 34:02
  Tad Eggleston: That will be coming up again, I'm certain, when we get to the… our thankful…
• 34:06
  Tyler Johnson: Thankfulness. Yes. Final order cut off this week, not a lot, but we've got Loka's The Maggie and Hopi story from Fanographics.
• 34:14
  Tad Eggleston: In stores on January 21st. This is the collection of Jaime Hernandez, stories from, like, the first 50 issues of Love and Rockets. And then…
• 34:28
  Tad Eggleston: The Past by Katriana Chapman, also at Fanographics, on January 21st.
• 34:35
  Tad Eggleston: Crowdfunding, we have Planet Death Original Art Edition from Tomas Giarello at Bad Idea on Kickstarter through December 4th, and Destiny New York Volume 7 by Pat Shand and Matteo Leone, Space Between Entertainment on Kickstarter through December.
• 34:51
  Tad Eggleston: Fifth.
• 34:52
  Tad Eggleston: 3 amazing books this week.
• 34:57
  Tyler Johnson: I love your number one.
• 34:58
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, it was kind of a light week, but there was some really good stuff.
• 35:04
  Tad Eggleston: leading off with Orla, number 4 from John Lees and Sally Cantorino. We're winding down, taking twists, having major character development, whatnot, and still some, like.
• 35:19
  Tad Eggleston: Blood and guts and gore.
• 35:22
  Tad Eggleston: Galactic number 1 from Kurt Byers, and Emocopena absolutely lived up to… to the hype. And, Devil on My Shorter number one from Kyle Starks, Peter Kowalski at Dark Horse, had one of the coolest ever
• 35:38
  Tad Eggleston: Trigger warnings at the beginning.
• 35:43
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, I did.
• 35:44
  Tad Eggleston: It started out with, warning…
• 35:49
  Tad Eggleston: Depictions of gore, violence against women, etc, etc, etc, but then a separate line of…
• 35:58
  Tad Eggleston: Her revenge will be justice.
• 36:02
  Phil: Nice.
• 36:05
  Tad Eggleston: That's crazy.
• 36:06
  Tyler Johnson: It was a great book. It was a great book. I, I really enjoyed it. What's nice is I'm reading my stuff early, because I, like I said, I'm getting it a few days early.
• 36:15
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 36:17
  Tyler Johnson: That's right, so…
• 36:18
  Phil: of heaven.
• 36:20
  Tyler Johnson: Except, you know, you gotta unpack it all, you know?
• 36:24
  Tad Eggleston: And put it into the system, and… okay.
• 36:27
  Phil: I was gonna say, I was gonna say, it probably, it probably, you know, it…
• 36:30
  Tad Eggleston: Do you have a way to just upload the invoice once you've…
• 36:35
  Tad Eggleston: Made certain that it's all there? No.
• 36:37
  Tyler Johnson: Oh, we'll have to talk about that. No, I do not. Interesting. I'm using Square. I'm not using… I'm not using the comic suite
• 36:46
  Tyler Johnson: Is that what it's called? Comic Suite?
• 36:48
  Tad Eggleston: Well, you shouldn't be.
• 36:48
  Tyler Johnson: from time to…
• 36:49
  Tad Eggleston: diamond one.
• 36:50
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, no, I'm not using…
• 36:51
  Tad Eggleston: A number of other options.
• 36:53
  Tyler Johnson: Okay. Anyway, we'll talk about that. I'm just using.
• 36:56
  Tad Eggleston: Yes.
• 36:56
  Tyler Johnson: native software.
• 36:58
  Tad Eggleston: Gotcha.
• 36:59
  Phil: Oh, if you use the Diamond Suite.
• 37:00
  Tad Eggleston: Does Square have any… like, I know that,
• 37:08
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, we'll have to talk… later, and…
• 37:12
  Tyler Johnson: There's a… there's one that I'm looking at, but it, you know, being that they're mostly around $100 a month, it's just an expense I don't want right now.
• 37:21
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 37:21
  Tyler Johnson: You know, but… Anyway, let's keep going.
• 37:26
  Tad Eggleston: Take a walk!
• 37:27
  Phil: Oh, yeah! So, I actually, I did not get a chance to head to the comic shop this week due to, a holiday that felt like it came out of nowhere. So instead, these are, it's the end of the month. If somehow you are listening to this today and not tomorrow on December 1st, here are, the things I burned the last of my hoopla pics on.
• 37:47
  Phil: First up, there is Crystal Heart, a graphic novel from Dark Horse by Aran Adharam and Aviv Orr. We had a good chat with them recently, go ahead and check that out if you want to hear about this.
• 37:58
  Phil: actual play comic. It sounds, really great, and I'm excited to dig into it. Then there's All Against All, a miniseries from, I think, I think 2 years ago, maybe? From…
• 38:10
  Tad Eggleston: Good.
• 38:11
  Phil: Oh yeah, the pitch was,
• 38:13
  Phil: Tarzan, or Alien, where Tarzan is the alien. I think that was… that was how they described it. From Alex Pecknatal, and Casper Wingard, and Hassan Atzmin El Hao.
• 38:25
  Phil: Then there is Under Kingdom, which looks like a crunchy graphic novel from Mary Enger and Christoph Bogox in Dark Horse, it looks awesome. And then, I figured I'd give a try to,
• 38:37
  Phil: book, from people I'd never heard of before. It's called Knights Season 1, Part 1 by Wyatt Kennedy and Luigi Formisano at Image. It looks pretty, pretty interesting. It's all over.
• 38:47
  Tad Eggleston: Wyatt Kennedy did Bolero.
• 38:49
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 38:50
  Phil: I really enjoy it.
• 38:51
  Tad Eggleston: it, and I.
• 38:52
  Tyler Johnson: That was good.
• 38:53
  Tad Eggleston: More of… more of his work.
• 38:55
  Phil: Oh, yeah.
• 38:56
  Phil: I'll try to get to that one first, and, you know, see if we can incentivize.
• 39:01
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, it doesn't matter which order. So Tyler, you know what has happened since you… you bailed on…
• 39:08
  Phil: Abandoned the One Piece race.
• 39:10
  Tad Eggleston: I… I have had… not had nearly the… the drive to… to keep
• 39:17
  Tad Eggleston: So, this is, like, the third week in a row where I read no chapters of One Piece. I'm stuck at 617.
• 39:24
  Tyler Johnson: Tad, I…
• 39:25
  Phil: Have you kept reading One Piece? Have you pulled ahead?
• 39:28
  Tyler Johnson: No. I was… I was gonna… I was gonna have some song and dance about how I'm on, like, chapter 1000 or something, but…
• 39:36
  Tyler Johnson: No, I have been reading it, but very sparingly. I'm not sure what chapter I'm on right now.
• 39:43
  Tyler Johnson: But, yeah, I… I have just had to put that aside. I'm just too busy.
• 39:50
  Tyler Johnson: Nope.
• 39:50
  Tad Eggleston: No, I understand, I understand. And after Phil brags that he read one more chapter of manga than me again this week.
• 40:01
  Phil: We'll talk about the reasons we've been busy.
• 40:04
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah.
• 40:04
  Phil: Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's still weird. I am intrigued because it looks like Bob is ignoring the, the uncomfortable ghost that's following him around, and it… Bob also has a younger brother who seems like a very interesting character, so I think I am sticking with this one. We'll,
• 40:19
  Phil: You know? It's a classic for a reason.
• 40:23
  Tad Eggleston: Cool.
• 40:24
  Tad Eggleston: This is the, the Sunday after Thanksgiving, so as is, 22 Panels Tradition,
• 40:35
  Tad Eggleston: We're gonna talk about what we're thankful for, mostly in the world of comics, but at this point, the world of comics just includes our worlds.
• 40:43
  Tad Eggleston: Because, like, I mean, that's one of the things I'm thankful for. Somehow, I… I belong in the world of comics.
• 40:50
  Tad Eggleston: Which is kind of… Weird.
• 40:53
  Tad Eggleston: I've actually been writing up panel proposals for C2E2.
• 40:58
  Phil: That's amazing. That we'll be putting in…
• 41:00
  Tad Eggleston: I have some really impressive people who are willing to be on panels that I'm putting in, that I'm not gonna announce on the air, at least.
• 41:08
  Phil: Wow.
• 41:08
  Tad Eggleston: it's been approved.
• 41:10
  Tad Eggleston: But, but, like…
• 41:12
  Tyler Johnson: For this seat to each other, like, in March or April, whatever it is?
• 41:15
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, the deadline is tomorrow, so literally…
• 41:19
  Phil: cow. Yeah.
• 41:20
  Tad Eggleston: literally… I mean, I've written them all up, I bounced them off of my friend Britt, who's.
• 41:25
  Tad Eggleston: done panels at country… er, Comic-cons all over the country, so, like, I wanted his… his take.
• 41:31
  Tad Eggleston: So at this point, it's mostly just cut and paste, and I'll be doing that literally, after we're done with this, while I'm waiting for…
• 41:40
  Tad Eggleston: The… the… show to download?
• 41:44
  Tad Eggleston: Or finish processing on Zoom.
• 41:46
  Tad Eggleston: But yeah, no, it's, like, weird that, that, like, not only did I finally…
• 41:54
  Tad Eggleston: Reached the point where… I'm like, hey, I do this podcast, and by the way, we have 750
• 42:04
  Tad Eggleston: As of yesterday, 750 episodes up.
• 42:08
  Tyler Johnson: Awesome.
• 42:09
  Phil: A Titanic achievement.
• 42:11
  Tad Eggleston: Right. That, like, When somebody… when somebody shot me an email saying, hey, crazy idea, why don't we…
• 42:22
  Tad Eggleston: propose an indie comics panel, I went, that's not a crazy idea.
• 42:28
  Tyler Johnson: I'm not crazy about.
• 42:30
  Tad Eggleston: That's something that I should be doing.
• 42:32
  Tyler Johnson: It's like, yeah, that is right in your wheelhouse.
• 42:35
  Tad Eggleston: You know, when I really had that feeling that I'm like, is when…
• 42:43
  Tad Eggleston: You know, as I… because I've got… I've got some long-shot panel ideas, and… and I've got some, like, steadier panel ideas, but because so few guests have been announced, it's harder.
• 42:57
  Tad Eggleston: Because, like…
• 42:58
  Tad Eggleston: some of the panel ideas would be much less long shot if I could go, oh, well, Chris Condon will be there, and Tom King will be there, and whatever, but I don't know who will be in Chicago, so I don't know…
• 43:12
  Tad Eggleston: But, so, I was, I was, and I'll, I'll even tease it just a little bit. As I was driving to work one morning.
• 43:19
  Tad Eggleston: I, I was, thinking, who do I know in Chicago that I could make an
• 43:28
  Tad Eggleston: Easy panel… or make a good panel out of.
• 43:32
  Tad Eggleston: And,
• 43:35
  Tad Eggleston: So… so, I don't know if I've told you guys that one of… one of my autistic things is sometimes I'll start hearing a song before I, like, know why.
• 43:46
  Tad Eggleston: It's kind of the way my brain will lead me to something. Interesting. So I'm driving, and I'm trying to think, who do I know in Chicago that… and suddenly, in my head, I'm hearing Bob Dylan singing, I was so much older than… I'm younger than that now.
• 44:05
  Phil: Hmm.
• 44:06
  Tad Eggleston: And I immediately knew, oh, I need to email these people.
• 44:12
  Tad Eggleston: And I did so first thing when I got into the building. So, I sent out an email to two New York Times best-selling authors at 7.45 a.m.
• 44:24
  Tad Eggleston: And by 11.30, they had both not only said yes, but, like, unequivocally, hell yes!
• 44:32
  Phil: Nice.
• 44:33
  Tad Eggleston: Let's do…
• 44:34
  Phil: I'm excited.
• 44:35
  Tad Eggleston: And I'm like, ugh! So, I'm really hoping that that one gets chosen, so I can tell the end of that story sooner rather than later.
• 44:45
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah.
• 44:48
  Tad Eggleston: But also, this show has spawned two comic shops this year.
• 44:53
  Tad Eggleston: For sure. Because I don't think I'm pushing things to say that…
• 45:02
  Tad Eggleston: part of Edgar finally taking the plunge.
• 45:05
  Tad Eggleston: Into buying a comic shop.
• 45:08
  Phil: Is that he knew he had me on his bench.
• 45:12
  Phil: I hope so. That's a heavy hitter, you know?
• 45:15
  Tad Eggleston: Right. And, you know, Tyler, I know, like, it was doing this that, like, pushed him over to when it was like, oh.
• 45:25
  Tad Eggleston: I left one teaching job, we didn't move, am I gonna scramble for another teaching job, or am I gonna do something else, when…
• 45:33
  Tad Eggleston: I think I can do this, and it sounds like he's already…
• 45:37
  Tad Eggleston: already reaping some benefits. So, Tyler, tell us about more of your journey, because…
• 45:44
  Phil: We haven't gotten to see enough of it lately, because you, like…
• 45:47
  Tad Eggleston: got too busy, and ran away from us, and so one of the things, I'm thankful that Tyler is just here.
• 45:53
  Tad Eggleston: staring back at me. I missed him. Fiddly, you're okay.
• 45:58
  Phil: I was about to say.
• 45:59
  Tad Eggleston: Still…
• 45:59
  Phil: And here, and here, and here, I was thinking about a joke that I'd be…
• 46:03
  Tad Eggleston: step in, because it would have been really, really, really, really sad if the podcast that started with Tyler saying, I'm just looking for somebody who won't flake out on me.
• 46:19
  Tad Eggleston: And with Tyler going, I'm too busy.
• 46:24
  Phil: Well, it.
• 46:25
  Tyler Johnson: I gotta go, guys.
• 46:26
  Phil: I have to imagine that Tad would… I think you'd get at least 2 or 3 episodes talking to yourself, you know?
• 46:33
  Tad Eggleston: You know, I mean, probably I'd just kill the weekly episode if I ever had to.
• 46:39
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because… Or dramatically change the weekly episode.
• 46:44
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, I mean, maybe just do a rundown of what's going on.
• 46:47
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 46:48
  Tyler Johnson: Boom.
• 46:49
  Phil: Full radio noise.
• 46:50
  Tyler Johnson: I'm… well, first of all, I'm very grateful that Phil, came on when he did. It was not intentional that I would be like, oh, sweet, there's a third guy. It can go now.
• 47:02
  Phil: Like a game of chips.
• 47:04
  Tad Eggleston: to do one thing, and then we liked the… we liked the…
• 47:08
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah.
• 47:09
  Tad Eggleston: When Tyler asked me if we should invite you to be the host, it didn't even occur to me that you were gonna be…
• 47:18
  Tad Eggleston: His semi-replacement.
• 47:20
  Tyler Johnson: No, not at all. I… I just wanted… I just wanted another voice to change up the dynamic, and…
• 47:26
  Tyler Johnson: You were a lot of fun to have on. Thank you. You're knowledgeable, you seem to be in our wheelhouse of the type of person that we like, you know? That's… these are… this is a tight set of criteria, I'm glad I could squeeze into it.
• 47:39
  Tyler Johnson: Oh, it's very tight, like, we've had so many people on the show, and none of them have, like, kind of, like.
• 47:45
  Tyler Johnson: tickled that part of my brain, going, wait a minute, this person is, like, great, you know? So, Phil, I'm very grateful that you have…
• 47:53
  Tad Eggleston: Thanks, Andy, keep giving us money.
• 47:54
  Phil: Ha!
• 47:58
  Tyler Johnson: Oh, man, but Andy couldn't do it, like, ongoing, you know what I mean?
• 48:02
  Tad Eggleston: No, he doesn't have the time.
• 48:03
  Tyler Johnson: No.
• 48:04
  Tad Eggleston: We don't even have him in the Saga Book Club.
• 48:07
  Phil: Yeah…
• 48:08
  Tyler Johnson: So,
• 48:10
  Tyler Johnson: Phil, I'm very grateful for you. Tad, I'm extremely grateful that you are making this into something bigger than I ever wanted or imagined we should do with it, you know what I mean?
• 48:24
  Tad Eggleston: Now, if we throw…
• 48:25
  Tyler Johnson: Oh my god.
• 48:25
  Tad Eggleston: Get some more listeners.
• 48:27
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah.
• 48:28
  Tyler Johnson: And so, yeah, I am very thankful that I've had the opportunity to, start something new in my town. My community has been so receptive to it, it's crazy.
• 48:41
  Tyler Johnson: We… people pop in all the time saying, I'm so glad you're here for my kids. Like, we really focus on young people.
• 48:49
  Phil: Oh, that's great. Oh, that's good.
• 48:51
  Tyler Johnson: I don't know if you've noticed.
• 48:51
  Tad Eggleston: Well, then I'm gonna give you a free idea.
• 48:54
  Tyler Johnson: Sure.
• 48:54
  Tad Eggleston: that I've pitched to Edgar is something that I want to do if he ever brings me on anywhere near full-time.
• 49:01
  Tyler Johnson: Sure.
• 49:01
  Tad Eggleston: Do a homework club at the shop.
• 49:04
  Tyler Johnson: That's not a bad idea.
• 49:05
  Phil: Interesting.
• 49:08
  Tad Eggleston: Some sort of reward for…
• 49:10
  Tyler Johnson: I've got table space for gaming, so I mean, it makes sense. Right.
• 49:13
  Phil: Right.
• 49:13
  Tyler Johnson: I don't know if you've seen our…
• 49:15
  Tad Eggleston: A 4-6 homework club where you're a teacher, so you can help out with stuff.
• 49:21
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah. You know, you can invite other people to come tutor, you can…
• 49:25
  Tad Eggleston: Give space for stuff, and then, like, some sort of major reward, but some sort of, like.
• 49:36
  Tyler Johnson: You know what?
• 49:37
  Tad Eggleston: And, like, the grading period report card, and it's worth a comic book, or…
• 49:44
  Tad Eggleston: Or it's worth $5 a store credit if you wanna…
• 49:47
  Tyler Johnson: Sure.
• 49:49
  Tad Eggleston: roll it.
• 49:50
  Tad Eggleston: Till you've got enough for something else, or something.
• 49:53
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah. I just think.
• 49:55
  Tad Eggleston: This is just what I think, because, like, I can't imagine ever stopping teaching, I just…
• 50:01
  Tad Eggleston: Can totally imagine teaching in different ways.
• 50:04
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah.
• 50:05
  Tyler Johnson: Which, it's been… it's been a lot of fun, because I've really suffered from imposter syndrome my whole life.
• 50:14
  Tyler Johnson: And this is the first time I don't feel like that. I don't feel like…
• 50:18
  Tad Eggleston: Amazing.
• 50:18
  Tyler Johnson: I don't feel like I…
• 50:20
  Tyler Johnson: put on this facade that I know what I'm doing, and I hope someone doesn't figure out that I'm an idiot.
• 50:27
  Tyler Johnson: You know what I mean?
• 50:28
  Tad Eggleston: Did you know that you don't know what you're doing, and everybody thinks you're.
• 50:31
  Phil: idiot, and you're doing it anyway, because…
• 50:34
  Tyler Johnson: somebody.
• 50:35
  Tad Eggleston: comics.
• 50:36
  Tyler Johnson: So, I felt like that was gonna be the way it was gonna go, you know?
• 50:39
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, I'm sorry, we watched the Big Bang episode where all of the guys wanted to invest in Stuart's comic shop, and all.
• 50:47
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah.
• 50:48
  Tad Eggleston: were like, you're a grown man, wanting to sell toys. You don't see a problem with that?
• 50:54
  Tad Eggleston: And that's, like, it's my least favorite episode, because I'm sitting there going, you women are so much smarter than, like, when Amy's doing it, I'm like, Amy, I can hand you neuroscience comic books that are good.
• 51:10
  Tyler Johnson: But Phil, what are you thankful for us?
• 51:13
  Phil: You know, just to take a quick glimpse outside comics, I'm really grateful or thankful for my family this year.
• 51:20
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah.
• 51:20
  Phil: This was the first year that I… well, the first time in 3 years that I've seen my, parents on Thanksgiving, so that was really nice, and my Uncle Jim. Like, actually on…
• 51:32
  Phil: close to Thanksgiving, as opposed to around it. And we had a great time with my wife's family in… in Louisville, too, so that was really… that was really wonderful, to hear about.
• 51:44
  Phil: On a down note, I am also thankful for, my parents, Pug Walter, who's had, like, 18 beautiful years, but they are unfortunately gonna be putting them down soon, so…
• 51:56
  Tyler Johnson: You have a pug?
• 51:57
  Phil: My parents have a pug, yeah.
• 51:58
  Tyler Johnson: Oh, I have a pug right… I told you this before? Yeah, yeah.
• 52:03
  Phil: Yes, they're adorable.
• 52:05
  Tyler Johnson: I loved them!
• 52:06
  Phil: I know, and he's… he's… he's blind.
• 52:09
  Tyler Johnson: Kelly?
• 52:09
  Phil: He's, deaf, he's got growths all over him, he's… he's had a long life, so, you know, this is… poor one out for Walter.
• 52:21
  Phil: And then in comics, I mean, I gotta say, I'm so… oh my goodness, oh, she looks lovely.
• 52:28
  Phil: He was sitting right by me, sleeping. Oh, that's so cute.
• 52:32
  Tyler Johnson: Okay, let's see if we can hear her snort. She's snorting.
• 52:34
  Phil: Yeah. Oh, they're so adorable, yeah. And I… I'm so thankful for you guys, for knowing you, for… thanks for bringing me into the fold, you know, it's been wonderful,
• 52:47
  Phil: before that, I, you know, didn't have… I… comics were around my life, but I didn't have, an
• 52:55
  Phil: Yeah.
• 52:56
  Tyler Johnson: Yes, exactly why I wanted to do this, yup.
• 52:59
  Phil: Yeah, yeah, it's so… it's so nice being able to talk about the books that I love and obsess over, and to get to talk to some of the creators of them. That's been one of the most incredible things this year.
• 53:11
  Phil: And… and also just any… honestly, anyone and everyone that we get a chance to talk to. People that I'd never, heard of before, you know?
• 53:20
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, and when you just meet a random person, and you're on a Zoom call with them, you're like.
• 53:25
  Tyler Johnson: this is a little surreal. I don't even know you, and now we're having this video conversation. Oh, yeah. And… but, yeah, I mean, it makes me more so… I mean, it made me more so…
• 53:35
  Tad Eggleston: The more surreal is it when, like, you don't know them, but you know them?
• 53:40
  Phil: Right? Whoo! That's… that's still a,
• 53:43
  Phil: a surreal feeling, too. You're like, you don't know me, but I know you. Right.
• 53:50
  Phil: Oh, goodness.
• 53:51
  Tad Eggleston: You don't… like, like, when Matt Wagner was on, Kelly.
• 53:56
  Tyler Johnson: I can imagine, yeah.
• 53:57
  Tad Eggleston: like, yep, you guys don't know me at all, but I have known your work since I was in high school.
• 54:06
  Phil: Right?
• 54:07
  Phil: Goodness.
• 54:08
  Tad Eggleston: Both of you!
• 54:11
  Phil: Oh, yeah.
• 54:13
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 54:14
  Tad Eggleston: I wanna be clear, I think Tyler knows, but, like, I remember we're on a podcast that I was ribbing Tyler. Tyler is absolutely not an imposter when it comes to running a comic shop.
• 54:29
  Tyler Johnson: Oh, nope, nope, I didn't take.
• 54:30
  Tad Eggleston: He moved on to Phil so quickly that I didn't get to come in and clear up for the listeners that I was just giving Tyler a hard time. It's clear that he knows it, I mean…
• 54:43
  Phil: Oh, yeah.
• 54:44
  Tad Eggleston: I hope he never.
• 54:44
  Phil: I mean…
• 54:45
  Tad Eggleston: imposter on this podcast, because…
• 54:48
  Tyler Johnson: No, but you know what?
• 54:50
  Tad Eggleston: well.
• 54:50
  Tyler Johnson: You know what I did feel, Tad, is that my comic knowledge was so inadequate when I met you.
• 54:58
  Tyler Johnson: And I was like, holy buckets, I thought I was deep into this world, and…
• 55:04
  Tad Eggleston: Because you're not as… Prone to hyperfixation as me doesn't mean that you lack knowledge.
• 55:13
  Tyler Johnson: I lack knowledge in the, in titles, in authors, in artists. I mean, all of that, you… you just, like, expanded my world, like, 100%, because I thought what I knew was everything, you know, but what I knew was such a small portion.
• 55:32
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, see, and that's one of the reasons that I keep learning more, is I've never thought that I knew everything. I still think that I know a very small portion. And I'm able to do that without feeling like an imposter, because I'm aware that I know a lot
• 55:49
  Tad Eggleston: More, particularly in a diverse way than a lot of people do.
• 55:54
  Phil: Yeah. But… but particularly because I always tend to be…
• 55:59
  Tad Eggleston: The jack-of-all-trades, master of none.
• 56:03
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, I am… I get that. I mean, not about you, but about myself.
• 56:06
  Tad Eggleston: Particularly with,
• 56:10
  Tad Eggleston: things that I love, like, like, there… pick any aspect of baseball, music, or comics, and… and…
• 56:18
  Tad Eggleston: I know people who know, like, parts of it way better than I do.
• 56:26
  Tad Eggleston: But I also know that they have whole parts that I know a lot about that they know nothing about.
• 56:33
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah.
• 56:35
  Tad Eggleston: Because, like, I'm a weird hyperfixation guy, I tend to… I tend to hyperfixate at a macro level, rather than a micro level. Like, my hyperfixation is on COMICS.
• 56:48
  Tad Eggleston: It's not on Spider-Man.
• 56:51
  Phil: It's not. But that's…
• 56:52
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, that's… that's what keeps the hyperfixation going, though, you know? Like.
• 56:58
  Tyler Johnson: There's more, there's always more.
• 56:59
  Phil: Yeah.
• 57:00
  Tad Eggleston: Who can still keep it going.
• 57:01
  Phil: I, I do too.
• 57:03
  Tad Eggleston: And when it's micro.
• 57:04
  Phil: And this is where I'll say that, you know, I think… I think that you hyperfixating on… on comics, which ends up being… it's like… it's like an access point to everything else in the universe, you know? Because of how wide a medium comics is.
• 57:20
  Tad Eggleston: Like, that's what my hyperfixations on music, comics, and baseball have in common, is they take me all over the world, and they give me analogies for almost anything.
• 57:33
  Phil: Exactly, there we go, and, and…
• 57:36
  Phil: The difference… this is… this is a personal taste thing. I think that part of why I feel like it would…
• 57:43
  Tad Eggleston: I don't know if I would ever get tired of talking to you, you know? It's one of those things where your knowledge… Well, thank you. There are definitely people who do. And that… that's… There are people in my own family who have.
• 57:53
  Phil: It's their loss, you know? They don't realize what they have in front of them. It's definitely their loss. Probably. I think at some point, you'll realize that I have scripts, and you've heard most of them.
• 58:03
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, I do write new ones, but I think Tyler even… even occasionally realized, Tad, Tad, you've told this one before.
• 58:10
  Tad Eggleston: You know what?
• 58:11
  Phil: Speaking to someone who likes to tell the same story from 20 years ago as many times as he can about, my grandpa and, his feelings about eggs, you know? Yeah, then it's one of those things that I appreciate that, and I also think that, you know.
• 58:28
  Phil: it's just… it's one of those things where someone who hyperfixates on Spider-Man, I feel like there's an endpoint there, you know? Like, eventually…
• 58:37
  Phil: Eventually, it turns into a wall. I think it does. I think that at a certain point, a hyperfixation on Spider-Man could… could…
• 58:44
  Phil: Cut someone off.
• 58:46
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, I, I, I, well, I mean…
• 58:49
  Tad Eggleston: Possibly, but… but… but… I mean, what I think the bigger problem is when you're hyperfixating on a character is… is…
• 58:57
  Tad Eggleston: is, when somebody does something with a character you don't like, it can…
• 59:03
  Phil: I could see that, yeah.
• 59:05
  Tad Eggleston: It, it does… It would be surly.
• 59:06
  Phil: Yeah, it tends to warp things more than, like, a broad interest does.
• 59:12
  Tad Eggleston: feel like you have a vested interest in that character, like, you… How dare you do that?
• 59:16
  Tyler Johnson: How dare you write this?
• 59:18
  Phil: Yeah.
• 59:18
  Tyler Johnson: this way.
• 59:19
  Tad Eggleston: You've only written 10… 10 issues. I've read 6,000 issues.
• 59:24
  Phil: right, those.
• 59:25
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah.
• 59:26
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, you start to feel like you're a shot caller, and you're like, maybe.
• 59:30
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, it, it's… I mean, in, in, in…
• 59:34
  Tad Eggleston: not the same episode, but another episode of Big Bang that we watched yesterday was the one where Sheldon was trying to start his own Comic-Con because they hadn't gotten tickets to Comic-Con. And he's on the phone with Robert Downey's publicist, or whatever, and he's like.
• 59:51
  Tad Eggleston: I watched 2 hours… or I watched Iron Man 2, that means he owes me at least 2 hours of his time, and I'm like, no…
• 1:00:00
  Phil: Oh…
• 1:00:01
  Tad Eggleston: Can you imagine if everybody who watched Iron Man 2 got 2 hours of Robert Downey?
• 1:00:07
  Phil: He'd still be busy!
• 1:00:09
  Phil: He'd still be busy, to this day, you know, just…
• 1:00:12
  Tad Eggleston: You got your two hours of Robert Downey's time. You didn't like it.
• 1:00:16
  Phil: It's a different thing. Yeah. I'd also argue that, like, well… oh, goodness, I mean…
• 1:00:22
  Tyler Johnson: I thought Iron Man 3 was worse.
• 1:00:26
  Phil: I mean, I like 3 a little bit more than 2, if only because 2 was like, let's do Iron Man again, with more lasers this time.
• 1:00:37
  Phil: Let's put more suits in it, you know? The thing they were planning to do from the beginning.
• 1:00:42
  Tad Eggleston: And honestly, I like them both, but I also have never thought that.
• 1:00:50
  Phil: That it entitled you to 2 hours of Robert Downey Jr.'s time?
• 1:00:53
  Tad Eggleston: Well, no, but where I was really gonna go is that,
• 1:01:00
  Tad Eggleston: There have been very few Marvel movies.
• 1:01:04
  Tad Eggleston: Dead.
• 1:01:06
  Tad Eggleston: Have been more than an… Average trade paperback.
• 1:01:12
  Phil: Oh yeah, that's fair.
• 1:01:13
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, so, so, so, like…
• 1:01:15
  Tyler Johnson: Yes.
• 1:01:16
  Tad Eggleston: People outside of…
• 1:01:19
  Phil: serious comic reading.
• 1:01:21
  Tad Eggleston: Like, oh my god, this is amazing, and then they start judging them based… against each other.
• 1:01:28
  Phil: Yeah.
• 1:01:28
  Tad Eggleston: Because…
• 1:01:32
  Tad Eggleston: they still haven't realized that the comics are better. I mean, it really kind of drives me with the wall, because, like, everybody seems to know that the book is always better than the movie, but so few people are willing to believe that the comic is better than the movie.
• 1:01:47
  Phil: I… I'm gonna make… I'm gonna make a controversial claim here, and I'm… I'm gonna say that I think Captain America Civil War is a better movie than Civil War, the comic.
• 1:02:01
  Phil: Like, the entire Civil War, like, across all of the tie-ins? Like, I'm talking about… I'm talking about Civil War by Mark Millar and Steve McNiven.
• 1:02:10
  Phil: Yup.
• 1:02:11
  Tad Eggleston: And just the miniseries.
• 1:02:12
  Phil: Just that many series.
• 1:02:14
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, no, I don't think that's controversial, because, I mean, that…
• 1:02:18
  Tad Eggleston: One of the things that makes Civil War… the event…
• 1:02:24
  Tad Eggleston: so special?
• 1:02:26
  Tad Eggleston: Is it's one of few times where the tie-ins were… were…
• 1:02:32
  Tad Eggleston: better than what they were tying into. Yeah. And what they were tying into wasn't bad.
• 1:02:39
  Phil: Right.
• 1:02:39
  Tad Eggleston: just an anchor.
• 1:02:40
  Phil: Yes, and that's…
• 1:02:42
  Phil: Not to get us into this Civil War wormhole, but I haven't been able… I mean, it was an event that I only experienced through Osmosis, through seeing posters of it while playing Magic Tournaments, and thinking, oh, that's kind of neat, that's an interesting idea.
• 1:02:57
  Phil: And then trying to read it through trades of… I've never been able to get into it. You know, I imagine if I had, like, a giant pile of single issues of all the various tie-ins of various important.
• 1:03:10
  Tad Eggleston: Or even digital ones, I mean, because it's that, like, really works best.
• 1:03:16
  Tad Eggleston: If you do it in order.
• 1:03:18
  Phil: Exactly, that's the other thing, is that…
• 1:03:20
  Tad Eggleston: I'd have to look… Did they even do their omnibuses in… in…
• 1:03:26
  Phil: I have to hope that when they do those omnibuses of, like, here's an event, and every single tie-in, that they do it in some form of publication order, or at least.
• 1:03:34
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, I know, I know, and it's, it's… oh, it looks like there isn't…
• 1:03:39
  Tyler Johnson: Oh. I don't think so.
• 1:03:40
  Tad Eggleston: Vietnam.
• 1:03:41
  Phil: You know?
• 1:03:42
  Tad Eggleston: Jack.
• 1:03:42
  Phil: And… and that's… that's where… I… I guess this is to… to…
• 1:03:47
  Phil: Rejoin us to our great responsibility.
• 1:03:49
  Tad Eggleston: box set.
• 1:03:51
  Phil: Oh, there we go. Not one omnibus, but a whole box set. I'm actually thankful.
• 1:03:55
  Tad Eggleston: I'm, I'm, I'm curious as to, to how… They set it up.
• 1:04:02
  Phil: Oh, yeah.
• 1:04:03
  Tad Eggleston: Because, like, I thought that that was totally something that was done… really well.
• 1:04:11
  Tad Eggleston: with the Hickman X-Men, that they released it… Yes.
• 1:04:16
  Phil: Oh, yeah. And then they collected it.
• 1:04:17
  Tad Eggleston: Reading order is a collected reading order.
• 1:04:19
  Phil: Yes.
• 1:04:22
  Phil: could theoretically read it like one giant series between all the X books.
• 1:04:26
  Tyler Johnson: Shameless plug, I have… I have Civil War and all of the tie-ins at my store. The Nexus Vault in La Verne, Minnesota.
• 1:04:35
  Phil: Bum, ba-ba-bum!
• 1:04:36
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, anyway, I was having a conversation with someone yesterday about this. My partner, he was going through them while we were pricing and whatnot, and he was like, there are so many Civil War things. And I said, yeah, and all we got was a 3-hour movie.
• 1:04:51
  Phil: Haha, yep, somehow.
• 1:04:53
  Phil: Goodness. But yeah, I was just gonna say, I'm thankful to feel like I have a… I am really happy right now with my connection to comics and, you know, the series I'm reading right now. I'd like to keep reading a little bit more, keep increasing that, but
• 1:05:11
  Phil: I feel like it's at a really good place, and to finally feel disconnected from event comics, because that was what…
• 1:05:21
  Phil: an event by one of my favorite writers was what had me step away from superheroes, because I was like, well, I can either afford just this, or I can afford to read indie series by all these people, and I went that way. So, it's, you know, it's one of those things that…
• 1:05:37
  Phil: I… I appreciate superheroes for, you know, getting people in the door, getting people to look at the medium. If anyone listening to this at this point was a huge Marvel movie fanatic and hasn't dug into comics yet, first of all, I don't know how you've found our podcast, but thank you. Second of all, please, please take the plunge. You know, there's… there's no bad place to start. It's like an ocean. Just dive in and find what interests.
• 1:06:02
  Phil: you. But yeah, yeah, civil War.
• 1:06:07
  Tad Eggleston: toss out that, Comic Book Herald, as they often do, has a great
• 1:06:12
  Tad Eggleston: Should've known. Comic Book Herald was great for that.
• 1:06:15
  Tad Eggleston: for Civil War.
• 1:06:17
  Tad Eggleston: And, and see, like, the… and as I'm glancing at it, and I haven't…
• 1:06:23
  Tad Eggleston: It's been a while since I read the event. This is, I think.
• 1:06:28
  Tad Eggleston: I'm pretty certain, roughly, the order that I would read it in, and the issues that that…
• 1:06:35
  Tad Eggleston: One should definitely…
• 1:06:37
  Phil: Yeah.
• 1:06:37
  Tad Eggleston: Catch, that there are a handful of things that… that are…
• 1:06:42
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, see, or no, I guess it has some Punisher.
• 1:06:45
  Tad Eggleston: I don't… I don't even know if this has everything that has Civil War at the top of it. I think this is the…
• 1:06:53
  Tad Eggleston: The… Specific stuff, and then there are separate lines.
• 1:07:03
  Phil: Wow. 4.
• 1:07:06
  Tyler Johnson: for each title.
• 1:07:07
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 1:07:08
  Phil: Yep.
• 1:07:10
  Phil: That is…
• 1:07:11
  Tad Eggleston: That's… that's the thing, is, like… Civil War had… some of…
• 1:07:23
  Tad Eggleston: The best creators in comics at the time.
• 1:07:29
  Tad Eggleston: For sure. They're working in sync together.
• 1:07:32
  Tyler Johnson: For sure.
• 1:07:33
  Tad Eggleston: No.
• 1:07:34
  Tad Eggleston: Millar, and Fraction, and Bendis, and Remender, and, like… The list goes on.
• 1:07:42
  Phil: Remember was around for Civil War? I didn't… I didn't know who wanted.
• 1:07:45
  Tad Eggleston: say he did the… I could be wrong. I thought he was.
• 1:07:51
  Tad Eggleston: Cause I thought he had the…
• 1:07:54
  Tad Eggleston: I thought that was part of his Punisher run.
• 1:07:57
  Phil: I think his Punisher run started with… er… actually, no, it didn't start… it took a turn with Dark Rain, so yeah.
• 1:08:07
  Phil: I know that. So… It might have been, like, close to it, or right after it, even.
• 1:08:18
  Phil: Yeah, okay, yeah, so it does say that E…
• 1:08:22
  Phil: Right, he co-wrote Punisher War Journal Vol. 2 with Fraction and art by Howard Chaikin, so yeah, I do think you're right there, because it goes…
• 1:08:31
  Tad Eggleston: You'll get that.
• 1:08:32
  Phil: Damn.
• 1:08:33
  Tad Eggleston: I didn't even remember that Chaikin was involved.
• 1:08:36
  Phil: Right? Holy cow. Poor Howard. Poor Howard.
• 1:08:40
  Tad Eggleston: Oh…
• 1:08:41
  Phil: I mean…
• 1:08:42
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I mean, it's just… Again, like…
• 1:08:51
  Tad Eggleston: I agree with you that the movie is better than the seven-issue series. Not a doubt.
• 1:08:59
  Tad Eggleston: But…
• 1:09:06
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, no, that's just the second issue.
• 1:09:09
  Phil: So here's a quick question for you guys. Has there been a, like, superhero event series like this that you've been able to get into and appreciate after the fact? Because I've always found that it's.
• 1:09:19
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, I did this after the fact.
• 1:09:21
  Phil: Okay, okay.
• 1:09:23
  Phil: So you invent the rest?
• 1:09:24
  Tad Eggleston: after the fact. Okay, so you… Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:09:26
  Phil: Gotcha, interesting.
• 1:09:27
  Tad Eggleston: I started… No Man's Land in real time, but I finished it years later.
• 1:09:37
  Tad Eggleston: Starting again from the beginning.
• 1:09:40
  Tad Eggleston: Almost all event series.
• 1:09:42
  Tad Eggleston: I do have the fact.
• 1:09:44
  Tyler Johnson: I did, The Green Lantern… .
• 1:09:50
  Phil: Blackest Knight.
• 1:09:51
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, I did that in real time, and then afterwards decided, holy cow, I didn't need to buy all those hardcovers.
• 1:10:01
  Tyler Johnson: So it's kind of the opposite, Phil.
• 1:10:03
  Phil: Yeah, that's funny, that was the first event, when I was getting into, single issues. That was the first one that I was around for.
• 1:10:10
  Tyler Johnson: Oh, okay.
• 1:10:11
  Phil: Yeah, so I kind of… I kept… I went through just the main line of reading Blackest Knight and Green Lantern, and then a couple of the tie-ins here and there, and ultimately, I enjoyed it. You know, I stuck with it. You know, kept reading Green Lantern until Geoff Johns wrapped up.
• 1:10:30
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah.
• 1:10:31
  Phil: Yeah. But.
• 1:10:31
  Tyler Johnson: They did a… they did a whole hardcover, like, series with all the…
• 1:10:36
  Phil: Yeah.
• 1:10:36
  Tyler Johnson: Oh, I… I have them all, you know?
• 1:10:39
  Phil: I was gonna say, it definitely seems like that was an event that… it's so funny how it started out with them being like, oh, we're not gonna have too many tie-ins, because Final Crisis just did that, and then in hindsight, it's like, oh no, that… but it started being successful, so then they were like, alright, everybody, we need to get those tie-ins pumping again.
• 1:10:58
  Tad Eggleston: I read Final Crisis after the fact, too.
• 1:11:01
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, Sam. Me too.
• 1:11:02
  Tad Eggleston: well.
• 1:11:02
  Phil: that's a… that's one that, yes, just picking up the trade of Final Crisis, I… I really, I really enjoyed it.
• 1:11:07
  Tad Eggleston: I wrote House of… a Red House of M after the fact.
• 1:11:11
  Tyler Johnson: Shame.
• 1:11:12
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, House of Emily.
• 1:11:13
  Tad Eggleston: But again, with all of these, I didn't just read…
• 1:11:16
  Tad Eggleston: the central event comic. I mean, like, I…
• 1:11:20
  Tyler Johnson: You, you, I mean, absorb.
• 1:11:21
  Tad Eggleston: This is the advantage of having things like Marvel Unlimited and…
• 1:11:25
  Phil: Boom.
• 1:11:25
  Tad Eggleston: DC Universe, I actually, like, read through the reading guides.
• 1:11:30
  Phil: Interesting.
• 1:11:31
  Tad Eggleston: Going through EVERYTHING.
• 1:11:34
  Tad Eggleston: You know…
• 1:11:36
  Tyler Johnson: Huh.
• 1:11:37
  Tad Eggleston: Because that's pretty much how I decide to do it. Like, I wait until people that I trust start talking about the event afterwards.
• 1:11:47
  Tad Eggleston: And if it's getting lots of traction.
• 1:11:52
  Tad Eggleston: I'm way more likely to kind of go back and put it together and read it.
• 1:11:57
  Tad Eggleston: than I would have been… Otherwise.
• 1:12:00
  Phil: Interesting. Alright.
• 1:12:02
  Tad Eggleston: So… Anything else we're thankful for before we move on to books we hope will be spectacular?
• 1:12:08
  Tyler Johnson: I'm good.
• 1:12:10
  Tad Eggleston: Tyler, do you have any specifics that you know are coming up that you're looking forward to?
• 1:12:17
  Tyler Johnson: No, unfortunately, as far as, like, my own personal collection, and reading, like, I've been…
• 1:12:25
  Tyler Johnson: it's weird, because I've switched into business mode, so I… it's hard for me to look for stuff personally.
• 1:12:33
  Tad Eggleston: But, but, but…
• 1:12:35
  Tyler Johnson: I mean, you get to hope it will be spectacular sales. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:12:41
  Phil: There we go.
• 1:12:42
  Tad Eggleston: Interesting. This was a week where, where, I did lots of doubling up.
• 1:12:48
  Tad Eggleston: Though, though, and actually, I need to… I need to move another one into…
• 1:12:53
  Tyler Johnson: The red shirts looked good. I ordered that, Star Trek red shirts. Chris Cantwell.
• 1:12:58
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I need to… I need to move another one into the books I know are spectacular really quick.
• 1:13:05
  Tad Eggleston: Cause I read… Zach Kaplan's…
• 1:13:11
  Tad Eggleston: Kill All Immortals 2 last night.
• 1:13:14
  Tad Eggleston: I think it's Fico Osseo.
• 1:13:18
  Tad Eggleston: Isafico Asio on that book?
• 1:13:20
  Tad Eggleston: Any good… anybody gonna beat me to it?
• 1:13:23
  Phil: I'm not sure. I, I.
• 1:13:26
  Tyler Johnson: Hold on.
• 1:13:29
  Phil: I'm a little familiar with it. Tyler is typing on some sort of hologram keyboard.
• 1:13:35
  Tad Eggleston: Colossio.
• 1:13:35
  Phil: Tony Stark, right? There you go.
• 1:13:40
  Tad Eggleston: So, things I know are spectacular. Death Dog No. 2 from Bryce Ingman and Alex Robinson at Ahoy. I particularly love this series because the word that the dog uses
• 1:13:57
  Tad Eggleston: to me, like, one of the premises is that… because these are kind of robot dogs, but they were… they were built with, like, human DNA, or not human, dog DNA, so they got lots of dog tendencies, but they were also programmed to have, like, 100-word vocabulary so that they could…
• 1:14:15
  Tad Eggleston: Because they're like, futuristic guard dog, blah blah blah.
• 1:14:19
  Tad Eggleston: But… So, the dog in question is one that had been…
• 1:14:28
  Tad Eggleston: Designed to kind of actually have its own personality.
• 1:14:32
  Tad Eggleston: And the word… that becomes its catch-all word to mean… have you guys seen, Donnie Brasco?
• 1:14:40
  Phil: Oh, yeah.
• 1:14:41
  Tad Eggleston: you know how there's that scene, they're always saying, forget about it. What does forget about it mean? And he's like, well, I mean, it depends on the context. Sometimes.
• 1:14:50
  Tad Eggleston: Sometimes. So, the word for this dog that can mean all sorts of things, depending on the context and intonation and whatnot.
• 1:14:58
  Tad Eggleston: is potato.
• 1:15:01
  Tad Eggleston: I remember that.
• 1:15:02
  Tad Eggleston: Which is my dog.
• 1:15:04
  Tad Eggleston: So…
• 1:15:07
  Phil: So now your dog is part robot guard dog.
• 1:15:09
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, something like that.
• 1:15:10
  Phil: nice.
• 1:15:12
  Tad Eggleston: Well, I mean, no, because it's not the dog's name, it's.
• 1:15:16
  Phil: method.
• 1:15:16
  Tad Eggleston: The dog says. It's what the dog says.
• 1:15:19
  Tad Eggleston: To mean all sorts of things.
• 1:15:21
  Phil: Okay.
• 1:15:22
  Tad Eggleston: Potato means I love you, potato means… Hey, look out!
• 1:15:28
  Phil: Nice.
• 1:15:29
  Tad Eggleston: So, yeah, Death Dog number 2 from Bryce Engman and Allen Robinson at Ahoy. Kill All Mortals 2 from Zach Kaplan and Fico Asio at Dark Horse, in, in, like.
• 1:15:41
  Tad Eggleston: Wonderful, synchronicity.
• 1:15:45
  Tad Eggleston: Paul Popes, book that… that…
• 1:15:50
  Tad Eggleston: He loves, that not enough other people had read, was, part of a…
• 1:15:58
  Tad Eggleston: book that… that Fanographics published is next week, called The Magnificent Adventure, The Perils of Giuseppe Bergman by Milo Minara, that had been previously out of print for…
• 1:16:09
  Phil: Like, 20…
• 1:16:10
  Tad Eggleston: 5 years, so, so, like…
• 1:16:13
  Tad Eggleston: when he said it, he didn't think it would be easy for me to read it, and then I was able to shoot him a text and go, hey, Paul, is it this one? He's like, it is! That's amazing! And Phanographic sent me a reader PDF for it, so I can say that it is, in fact, very amazing.
• 1:16:30
  Tad Eggleston: Trigger Warning, a Strangers in Paradise story from Terry Moore at Abstract Studio, was sent out with his last Kickstarter as well, so I can also,
• 1:16:41
  Tad Eggleston: Totally.
• 1:16:42
  Tad Eggleston: say that it was amazing. But otherwise, this was one of those weeks where I had to cheat a little bit.
• 1:16:48
  Tad Eggleston: Because, Chris Cantwell has two books coming out. Briar Knight's Terror No. 1,
• 1:16:57
  Tad Eggleston: with Alex Lintz from Boom.
• 1:17:00
  Tad Eggleston: Finally getting to finish the story the way he wanted to?
• 1:17:03
  Tad Eggleston: And Star Trek Redshirts number 5, with Megan Levins at IDW, take my one spot. Giant-sized criminal number one from Ed Brubaker and Sean Phillips takes my two spot. I'm always happy to have more criminal.
• 1:17:18
  Tad Eggleston: And how crazy is it that Matt Kint, with two books from Bad Idea, still can't be in front of Ed Brubaker and Sean Phillips as much as I love Matt Kint and Bad Idea?
• 1:17:31
  Tad Eggleston: Save Now, number 2, Save Now number 1 was amazing. They're All Terrible, number 3, from Matt, the Save Now's from Matt Kint and Thomas Ciarillo, and They're All Terrible is Matt Kint and Ramon Villilobos. Both are from Bad Idea, and I fully expect them to be spectacular, but I have not read them, so right now we're gonna say Hope.
• 1:17:52
  Tad Eggleston: Also, the collected edition of I Was a Fashion School Serial Killer by Doug Wagner and Daniel Hilliard.
• 1:18:00
  Tad Eggleston: And I should have scrolled down further.
• 1:18:03
  Phil: I have a backup. It's okay. no, you can talk about it! I'll shut up now.
• 1:18:09
  Phil: I haven't read it, so that was my hopeful, like, I should read this one, you know, this is the.
• 1:18:13
  Tad Eggleston: You should.
• 1:18:13
  Phil: pick. I should beat this one.
• 1:18:14
  Tyler Johnson: It's so good. Yeah. But, you know, go back and read, plastic and Vinyl? Yeah, because this character, if you want her backstory, you really…
• 1:18:24
  Tad Eggleston: final.
• 1:18:25
  Tyler Johnson: She's in vinyl, yep.
• 1:18:27
  Phil: Okay. Interesting.
• 1:18:28
  Tyler Johnson: So…
• 1:18:29
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, really, any…
• 1:18:30
  Tyler Johnson: They are not… they don't really…
• 1:18:32
  Tad Eggleston: And Daniel Hilliard, you should just… Oh, yeah.
• 1:18:35
  Phil: I need to. He sounds delightfully fucked up, in, in a way I would enjoy…
• 1:18:40
  Tad Eggleston: That's the… that's the…
• 1:18:42
  Phil: Absolute best way to put it. Yeah, that's delightfully fucked up. You guys have… you guys have talked about him enough, and I… because, like, I saw the covers of the books, I was like, those look really interesting, but how much you guys have talked about, I'm like, okay, I need to… I need to start reading this guy.
• 1:18:54
  Tad Eggleston: him.
• 1:18:55
  Phil: Talk about him, with him, to him, all the time.
• 1:18:58
  Tyler Johnson: Doug and I, follow each other on social media. He sends me, like, happy birthday when it's my birthday. I mean.
• 1:19:06
  Tad Eggleston: Yep.
• 1:19:06
  Tyler Johnson: It's critical.
• 1:19:07
  Phil: Mench.
• 1:19:07
  Tyler Johnson: He's so nice. He's such a nice guy.
• 1:19:10
  Phil: I love the tradition of people who make disturbing art being absolute gems of people to talk to.
• 1:19:18
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah.
• 1:19:18
  Phil: Yeah.
• 1:19:19
  Tyler Johnson: John… John Lees from,
• 1:19:22
  Tad Eggleston: Also…
• 1:19:23
  Tyler Johnson: Yep, him also. He's just so screwed up to get… Orla, that's his book.
• 1:19:28
  Phil: Oh, yeah, I need to catch up on.
• 1:19:29
  Tyler Johnson: But he is such a great guy. He's really into swimming, so he'll talk to you about lap swimming, and so it's really fun.
• 1:19:38
  Tad Eggleston: Alex Cormac.
• 1:19:39
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, with Neil Clyde.
• 1:19:44
  Phil: So, in addition, my backup after, I was a fashion school serial killer was, I just saw they're putting out another, another edition, another printing, probably paperback, of… yeah, it is paperback, of The Private Eye by Brian K. Vaughan, Marcos Martin, and… Martin. Martin, thank you, and
• 1:20:03
  Phil: Months of incent.
• 1:20:05
  Phil: Which… Martine. Martine, yes, which is a book I absolutely love. I've had it on my shelf behind me. It's so good. I need to reread it. I feel… I'm feeling compelled to reread it now.
• 1:20:17
  Tad Eggleston: I have it.
• 1:20:18
  Phil: Yeah.
• 1:20:19
  Tad Eggleston: barrier.
• 1:20:20
  Phil: Yeah, I have Barrier 2. I haven't read that one, but I have the single issues that came out, so, I know, I have… I have a lot of books that I need to read. It's, you know, it's a dang shame.
• 1:20:31
  Tad Eggleston: Thank you.
• 1:20:32
  Tad Eggleston: But, but yeah, no, I read… I mean… I have… I have a crap ton of books that I need to read.
• 1:20:38
  Phil: I was one where I picked it up as it was coming out on Panel Syndicate. It was, you know, and absolutely loved it, absolutely adored it.
• 1:20:45
  Tad Eggleston: Tyler, you're the retailer now. Which is bigger, a crap ton or a metric crap ton?
• 1:20:51
  Tyler Johnson: I think a metric crap ton.
• 1:20:54
  Phil: Then I have a metric crap ton of books that I own and haven't read yet. The standard crap ton, it just doesn't hit the same.
• 1:21:01
  Tyler Johnson: Guys, okay, I'm gonna move my camera, and I'll show you my pile size, okay?
• 1:21:05
  Tyler Johnson: Right here… oh, you can't really see the height of it.
• 1:21:09
  Phil: Boom.
• 1:21:10
  Tad Eggleston: Is that on the floor?
• 1:21:12
  Tyler Johnson: No, it's on.
• 1:21:13
  Phil: Oh my goodness.
• 1:21:14
  Tad Eggleston: Okay, then you're nowhere near.
• 1:21:15
  Tyler Johnson: It's about 4 inches high.
• 1:21:17
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, that's, that's, that's, like, Tyler.
• 1:21:22
  Phil: 4 inches of pile? I was gonna say, I have piles of piles.
• 1:21:25
  Tad Eggleston: I have 8 inches right next to me, and that's, like, not even the tip of my iceberg.
• 1:21:34
  Tyler Johnson: I know, I… I used to be so good about reading week in and week out.
• 1:21:41
  Tad Eggleston: So… Tyler, you wanna take us out?
• 1:21:48
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, guys, thanks for listening. Hopefully I will be back soon. We're gonna be doing all kinds of fun episodes that I want to be included on. But…
• 1:21:59
  Tyler Johnson: Thanks for listening, and we'll catch you guys after the next page.
• 1:22:04
  Tyler Johnson: Bingo!