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Ballard Fired: Reaction with Will & Dave Retherford (A Special Colts Report, 3.87) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

• 0:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: You are listening to a special edition of the Colts Report with Will and Dave Rutherford.
• 0:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to get Will and Dave's reaction to the firing of Chris Ballard, and it's only on the central Indiana Sports Report.
• 0:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: Welcome Colts fans to the Central Indiana Sports Report.
• 0:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a brand new day, no matter your thoughts.
• 0:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Big news on Monday, your spallard has been fired.
• 0:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: We kind of called for it on the podcast on Sunday.
• 0:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: And apparently, Carly was listening to us well, your thoughts.
• 0:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm pretty sure that the munchkins and the Wizard of Oz talked about the wicked witch was dead and it kind of feels like this is the parade for cult fans today.
• 0:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry if I got it wrong, that's been a while since I watched the Wizard of Oz.
• 0:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: I am 23 now, but you know it.
• 1:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's a good day for Colts fans.
• 1:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think this has been brewing for the better part of the last three years and finally, Carly, or say, I had the gumption to do it.
• 1:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I applaud her for it.
• 1:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it was the right move.
• 1:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: I do think that there is some reason to believe that the reason to stike and was kept was because she's heard in internal communications for him during the season on the sideline.
• 1:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: I do think that he has a chance to keep his job.
• 1:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: is it a good chance?
• 1:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: Probably not, but I think there is a chance.
• 1:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that would take me.
• 1:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: Will it would and they have some serious discussions to be had in terms of roster management where they go and this trade deadline But they are assets that they have currently especially the age of most of them It's not like this is some young rebuilding team.
• 1:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: This team is filled littered with guys over twenty eight who are Impact players, but you don't see them probably being in their prime or even you know their twilight prime
• 2:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: The next time this Colts team is probably going to be competitive.
• 2:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: I would imagine that we're looking at 20-29 before this team is fully ready to compete again.
• 2:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: The roster's going to look entirely different at that point.
• 2:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I expect the phone to light up for a guy like Jonathan Taylor, Quentin Nelson, DeForce, Buckner, Grover Stewart, and I think the cult with their lack of capital in the first round are going to have to probably be ready to answer some of those calls.
• 2:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: especially if they go on to get embarrassed in Minnesota and they go to their house a horse and deval county and get beat by Jacksonville, which that game looks like it might be on Sunday night football now.
• 2:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, if we think it's bad, but they could be two and six, it could be a lot worse.
• 2:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't think the coach needed to go.
• 2:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: I thought the general manager did.
• 2:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: I did not think that there was any way that's what would happen.
• 2:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: I thought if it was going to happen, it would be both.
• 2:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that's typically what you do when you clean house.
• 2:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: I've said all year.
• 2:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think Shane Stikin is an NFL head coach.
• 2:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think Chris Ballard is an NFL GM.
• 2:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I think she made the right choice.
• 3:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: And today, and I had very little faith in Carly,
• 3:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: or say before today and today she gained a little back by just doing what she needed to do and I'm glad she did.
• 3:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: And sorry to Chris Ballard and his family and he's a human being and all that, but this is sports and it's just kind of the way things are.
• 3:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Good luck somewhere else, Chris Ballard.
• 3:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: Today was just step one of that process.
• 3:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: She's going to be obviously looking now for a new general manager.
• 3:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm sure we're going to talk a little bit about that here coming up here.
• 3:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: But she's going to be looking for a new general manager.
• 3:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I think it's right to go ahead and keep striking in place for now.
• 3:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: This team is put together.
• 3:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: We'll brought up a lot of things even yesterday in our in our recap.
• 3:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: regarding, you know, he's the play caller, you know, they really don't have a defensive coordinator that is suited to be a head coach, you know, their offensive coordinator is not suited to be a head coach, their special teams coach is not really prepared to be a head coach.
• 4:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I think.
• 4:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, for today, she had to keep stiking in place and let the new general manager decide whether to stikens the right guy for the job or whether they're going to clean house and move on from him at the end of the season.
• 4:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, be interesting to see now, kind of what happens, you know, obviously bringing in a new GM talking about then what, coaching staff looks like and who's going to make some of these decisions at trade deadline, assuming we don't have a new GM in place yet.
• 4:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: So going to be interesting, but this had to happen.
• 4:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: This just had to happen.
• 4:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: It probably should have happened long before now.
• 4:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: We finally got there.
• 4:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: And this is step one.
• 4:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe in the process of the colds being legitimate again, someday in the future.
• 4:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think as far as the GM search goes, I don't know enough to not just let Carly kind of make her choice and support it.
• 5:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a hard job and it's all situational.
• 5:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't think.
• 5:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: getting a GM that has been successful in the past necessarily means he's going to be successful again, getting a guy from a successful franchise doesn't always work as we think definitely there's going to be a phone call made to pay me and you know why why wouldn't you he's argue boy the greatest ever play the game and and so you know if he has any interest at all and coming back and helping
• 5:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: do some leadership position within the Cold Organization.
• 5:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: I would, I would think that she would welcome that with completely open arms.
• 5:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm still not a hundred percent sure that that's going to happen.
• 5:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like he's been able to move on with his life and post-play player and is doing pretty well for himself right now in, in other avenues.
• 5:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I kind of look for him to turn around, but I could be surprised, I guess, time will tell.
• 5:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: But certainly he's worth won't go.
• 6:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just know that he really admired John L. way when he went to Denver.
• 6:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: He admired a former quarterback being a president of a franchise that always seemed like it was something that he might do eventually and now seems like the time, but you're probably right.
• 6:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: It probably won't happen.
• 6:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're probably just going to go down the hope of the
• 6:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: I would assume a veteran general manager who's one would be where she'll go in the off season, but I, again, I'll just let her make her choice and move on well.
• 6:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I mean, he wouldn't be able to be Peyton, man, and many more, you know, I would imagine that nationwide it's going to have a bit of a bone to pick if all of a sudden he decides he wants to be the
• 6:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: colds president of uh operations and quite frankly it's awfully good as pain-maning.
• 6:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: I got to give it to the guys.
• 6:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Pretty good actor.
• 6:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Very talented.
• 6:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: I've just never gotten my hopes up because I just I don't think that he's got too many
• 7:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: things on the stove already and I don't see him at this point in his life being ready to do something like this.
• 7:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, John all the way was obviously an icon for the Broncos, but I feel like he was a lower profile major celebrity compared to Peyton Manning.
• 7:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he's kind of all over the place now.
• 7:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, a patent's everywhere.
• 7:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 7:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Sir, you're right.
• 7:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he's, he's a different level of super star.
• 7:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I just, I don't see it probably being a, a move beyond us with yet.
• 7:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: I could probably only name you 10 GMs and the entire league.
• 7:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: because nobody gives a shit.
• 7:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's a GM.
• 7:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: You hope he's the best thing you can have a GM as he don't hear his name, because that means it's working.
• 7:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: And you're not getting out of the news, and you're not getting, you know, the guys who are entrenched who you know are really good, you're not getting those guys.
• 7:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I have no idea.
• 7:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's, I pride myself on being an expert on sports.
• 7:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: I would have an opinion with a baseball general manager or a basketball general manager, but with a football general manager just doesn't seem like there's any pattern to success, except for a couple of guys who were successful in multiple places, it doesn't happen very much.
• 8:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now, because if you're successful somewhere, you stay there.
• 8:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's not a job that you get a ton of second chances because
• 8:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: If you failed the first time, it's probably a track record as to why.
• 8:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, NFL GMs are kind of like the NBA coach, just nobody, nobody cares.
• 8:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's whatever.
• 8:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, if you have a good one, sure, you're better than the other, you know, 32 organizations.
• 8:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: But the difference between the worst GM, the best GM is still nowhere near.
• 8:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's important, it's the best quarterback to the worst quarterback.
• 8:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: It all the front office stuff is great, but the roster construction stuff like that that are the players actually on the field performing.
• 8:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: And there's a lot that goes into that in terms of talent, development, acquisition.
• 8:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: And the ability to build a roster that helps maintain itself in a proper way.
• 8:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: But there's...
• 8:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: been a lot of genes that have done it.
• 8:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: I would honestly say that I think that Carlier, say it's first call, it should be Bill Polian.
• 9:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think if there's somebody that knows how to operate a mature NFL franchise at him and his relationship with the cults is still well known and well documented, I think that's who you call.
• 9:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: and get his advice is to where do we go from here?
• 9:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm sure she already has.
• 9:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: She's a CEO of an owner of a multi-billion dollar organization that she knows more about, she's forgotten more about business than I'll ever know my life.
• 9:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I trust her judgment here and hope that she can write this ship and get this franchise going in the right direction.
• 9:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: I guess it'll be more of the Ryan Griggs and Chris Ballard type understudy will be the next guy rather than when they went with Vince Tobin who helped build the 85 bears or when they went with Bill Polion.
• 9:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's my guess.
• 9:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: They won't go with a big name.
• 9:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: They'll go with a guy we've really never heard of.
• 9:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: No, I agree.
• 9:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think big name whites.
• 9:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: A lot of those, a lot of those people aren't going to come to Indianapolis with the situation that it currently has.
• 10:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, there's obviously lots of understudy guys, lots of.
• 10:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: assistant GMs within the leg of people that I'm sure are up and cameras.
• 10:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: Many of which I have no clue about, but she would obviously from her seat.
• 10:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's going to be interesting and even more interesting, you know, the timeline for things too, you know, is just going to happen, you know, before the season ends, I mean, our other teams going to let their assistant GMs
• 10:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: even interview for positions right now in season or are we looking at some kind of inner in that we can bring in just to make decisions in a short term until a long-term piece can be found.
• 10:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: But still.
• 10:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right decision in place today, if we're going to make any big moves, we don't need Chris Boward making them at this point, knowing that he was in and out, and so, you know, it's time line now is going to be what's going to be, uh, interesting.
• 11:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: And you kind of left the cupboard bare as Will mentioned and the assets as far as draft picks.
• 11:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: No first round or this year.
• 11:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: But as we've seen with teams that look like they were directionless new general manager, new coach, new whatever.
• 11:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: It can turn around fast in the NFL.
• 11:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: It can, and for Carly's sake, it's going to have to because, unfortunately, we still live in a world where she's going to be questioned as a female owner of an NFL roster wrongly judge because of it because there's no reason that she is not just as capable of being an incredible owner as any man is.
• 11:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: I do find the discourse and the rhetoric surrounding her to be
• 11:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: an issue it is because she's simply doing her job.
• 11:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: She she's done everything the right way and and I've been above board up to this point sending up for her father.
• 12:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just hope that this can be a successful tenure for her because she's going she's going to start getting heavily criticized if this goes wrong and it's not fair.
• 12:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: She obviously is the the president and CEO and the final boss but she also needs to be given some grace to hopefully make a decision that is
• 12:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: thoughtful and and benefits the next phase of the cult and I I think today she took a step in the right direction in terms of that and and showing her prowess within the business but she she's gonna have to get this one right for for the large majority of cults fans and the NFL community as a whole
• 12:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: I will say this, Dave Bobbersay acted as General Manager for the Colts, and that did not go well.
• 12:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: He was one of the worst of all time, and then Jimmer say, back off a little and was really serious about it, and he was a, I wouldn't say great owner, but a very good one.
• 13:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: And Carly, if she keeps going in the same direction, it could be a really good 10 year I have no reason to believe.
• 13:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: We women,
• 13:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: owners of one championship.
• 13:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know why you can't.
• 13:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: And wouldn't she seems to take it very seriously as we've seen most owners don't take it that seriously.
• 13:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think it's good when the owner does.
• 13:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Do you want to do the Jerry Jones level?
• 13:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: Probably not.
• 13:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I don't mind a little involvement from the owner.
• 13:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: If I was the owner, I'd want to be a little involved.
• 13:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: No, I've been really impressed, honestly, with the way she's conducted herself.
• 13:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: We all believe that she made the wrong decision at the end of last year and keeping hours like and then.
• 13:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I couldn't argue with her reasoning behind it.
• 13:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: I couldn't argue with that at all, and she's obviously clearly studying the game.
• 13:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: She's on the sideline at every game, and is connected.
• 13:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: It seems like her as it's trying to connect with players and coaches and team personnel.
• 14:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: And so I feel like she's doing everything the right way.
• 14:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: she's going to make every decision correctly.
• 14:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: No, none of them do.
• 14:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: And we all again criticized that she didn't get rid of being at the end of last season, but she finally came to the conclusion, you know, on her own and I appreciate that.
• 14:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: she didn't listen to the naysayers on the outside and that she did what her gut told her to do and today she knew that this was the right move to make now for the franchise and she made it.
• 14:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I give her a lot of props and a lot of kudos and I wish her well as she continues to try to figure out how to move this team in the right direction.
• 14:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I don't have any reason to believe that she's not capable.
• 14:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: She certainly giving it every bit of effort and I applaud her for that.
• 14:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Chris Ballard's a realer got a zipper burn this morning here in this news.
• 14:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: That guy, he is pumped to see this because it's right.
• 15:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Good luck to the Ballard family somewhere else.
• 15:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, good man, I think he just, some point you've had a wrong way, but he did.
• 15:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: And Indianapolis, I think it is it went on he did.
• 15:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's just the time to move on.
• 15:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: His downfall started the day, Darious Leonard got hurt.
• 15:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: I really believe that they were on their way to be in a really good football team and then he got hurt and that was the end.
• 15:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: And probably Andrew Luck that as well.
• 15:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: And the day that Carl Wins went down the Jacksonville and got the crap me out of him.
• 15:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: That wasn't a very good day.
• 15:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's the worst and the franchise's history.
• 15:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: But worse than Super Bowl three.
• 15:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Can't say I was around for that Greg.
• 15:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, biggest upset and NFL history.
• 16:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: I would go out on a limb and say that you are probably one of the three percent of NFL fans that actually care about that.
• 16:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: But it's good you do.
• 16:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: I would just say that most people probably could give in your list yets unless it's happened the last like 30 years.
• 16:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: How about the Saints lost Dave or the Steelers lost?
• 16:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, gosh.
• 16:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: The Steelers lost the last time I cried as a sports fan.
• 16:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: There have been some major painful horses on our history.
• 16:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's hard to compare, I guess, and contrast, which ones might have been worse.
• 16:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yesterday was truly a low.
• 16:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it was a low point in this franchises history.
• 16:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: Whether it's the worst thing in history, one could argue that all day, I suppose.
• 16:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: But definitely it was a low point.
• 16:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: And let's still have a season to play.
• 16:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: And we have to move on and hopefully,
• 17:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, the team will maybe ride this a little bit too.
• 17:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, maybe they have a little bit left to prove to, to Carly and to Shane and to whoever is going to be the new GM coming in that, you know, they have jobs to play for.
• 17:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I'd like to think that this will maybe give them a little bit more motivation, not that it should have taken this, but maybe a little bit more motivation to perform because
• 17:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, they truly are performing now for their jobs with a new GM coming in town.
• 17:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a brand new day in Colts history, and we look forward to seeing where it goes from here.
• 17:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you so much to Will and Dave, thank you so much for listening.
• 17:44
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• 18:05
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• 18:10
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