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ExperimenTayshia · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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Speaker 1: with our radio. I'm so ready for another week of
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Speaker 1: the Almost Famous podcast. Ashley Tasia has never disappointed ever.
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Speaker 1: She truly is bigger is she's She's a bachelor right
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Speaker 1: that we've had the least amount of bachelor speak with
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean When I say bachelor speak
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Speaker 1: like there's like no booths, there's just no fluff talk.
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Speaker 1: It's real talk and it's so easy and fun to watch.
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Speaker 1: I didn't want this episode to end. I love this episode.
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Speaker 1: And when I was thinking about coming on here to
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Speaker 1: talk to you about it, I was like, I don't
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Speaker 1: even have much to say, you know why, because there's
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Speaker 1: nothing to pick apart. It was pretty much drama free
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Speaker 1: until the very end. And yeah, it's just like I
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Speaker 1: always want this episode to lie. It's like, just let
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Speaker 1: it be because it was a perfect episode. Well, there's
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Speaker 1: definitely gonna be things, some things I pick apart, but
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Speaker 1: those You have some bachelor headlines actually going through the
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Speaker 1: list as usual, You're gonna break them down because you're
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Speaker 1: the expert and I learned from you on all at
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Speaker 1: all times. Alright, first headline Matt James Bacheler sneak peak
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Speaker 1: is full of makeout sessions and tears. This according to Cosmo,
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Speaker 1: Well did you see the sneak peak that aired for
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Speaker 1: the first time during Ryan Field? But you know my
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Speaker 1: favorite UM new show based guy last week? Did you
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Speaker 1: watch it? Did that? Yeah? So it's a great clip.
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Speaker 1: It came out earlier than we get basically any other
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Speaker 1: Bachelor preview for the season. He looks great, Harrison saying
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Speaker 1: that the women are falling for him literally because one
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Speaker 1: girl trips on her exit outside the limo, and I
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Speaker 1: mean there's nothing, there's something hugely stand out about it.
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Speaker 1: Jared's favorite part was that that Chris says, you've never
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Speaker 1: been in love. Well, we are here to change that.
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Speaker 1: He thought it was very cinematic. Chris has been on
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Speaker 1: his game. I mean, the guy's working harder than never.
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Speaker 1: He's on more TV than he's ever been on before.
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Speaker 1: The guy is just crushing it with the lines. I
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Speaker 1: mean he is on fire. We're speaking of on fire
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Speaker 1: Bachelor at Tasha Adams turns heads, yes, turns heads in
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Speaker 1: many dress and braids at American Music Awards in l A. This,
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Speaker 1: according to Full Daily Mail, not much of a story here,
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Speaker 1: but if you guys, did check out Tasia on the
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Speaker 1: American Music Awards on Sunday night, or you saw her
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Speaker 1: posting on Instagram, but leading up to it, you saw
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Speaker 1: how amazing she looks. She had those long, beautiful braids
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Speaker 1: and like the cutest dress. So Tastia's killing it as usual,
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Speaker 1: nothing more. Let's talk about here. Well, this is shocking
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Speaker 1: but yet not shocking. Uh. It feels like when you're
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Speaker 1: the Bachelor or Bachelor. Uh, celebrities are sliding into the
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Speaker 1: ms UM quicker than you ex expect. In fact, it
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Speaker 1: feels like recently, especially MEMP cast members and former leads
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Speaker 1: are entering into a celebrity circle. There own bachelortte, Tasha
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Speaker 1: Adams reveals a laker, Yes, an l a laker slid
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Speaker 1: into her d M s. This according to The New
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Speaker 1: York Post. Okay, so Tasia was on you Know What
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Speaker 1: her podcast this week and she said, well, there's a
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Speaker 1: laker that slips to my d MS. I talked to
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Speaker 1: a laker, That's what she says. And then Rachel, who
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Speaker 1: I think was on her podcast it was a happy
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Speaker 1: Hour and clickbait crossover podcast. Um, she said, is it
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Speaker 1: because referencing Winnie Harlowe's main squeeze, you know, supermodel Winnie
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Speaker 1: Harlow's main squeeze, Kyle Kuzma, and then Tasia said maybe
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Speaker 1: maybe not, before clarifying that she had spoken to him previously.
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Speaker 1: She also ruled out that Lebron James is not like her.
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Speaker 1: In questions, she said, I wish it was Lebron. The
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Speaker 1: guessing game continued um and then she said, no, believe me,
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Speaker 1: no one exciting. I wish somewhat. I wish it was
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Speaker 1: someone really good, but nobody exciting. So I'm assuming that
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Speaker 1: the Laker that did slam into her d MS is
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Speaker 1: not a household name. So actually I might be reading
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Speaker 1: into this too much. Tell me where my thoughts are
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Speaker 1: going wrong. If Tasia was mentioning that it would be
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Speaker 1: exciting for one of these guys to slide into the
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Speaker 1: d m R, does that mean she's potentially single, because
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Speaker 1: you wouldn't. I mean, maybe, like you know, matters how culture,
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Speaker 1: but it would feel like a pretty aggressive statement for
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Speaker 1: somebody who just recently got engaged to be saying pretty interesting. Now,
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Speaker 1: we haven't listened to the actual interview, the actual cross
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Speaker 1: of our podcast, so we were we apologize for not
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Speaker 1: having contacts on this. But I would assume that this
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Speaker 1: laker slid into her d MS not knowing that she
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Speaker 1: was taken lady, and she didn't start anything flirtatious or
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Speaker 1: it was previously before she became the Bachelorette. Okay, fair enough,
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Speaker 1: I just wanted to I just have the headline, so
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Speaker 1: it's like, Hey, if I'm putting my clues together, something's
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Speaker 1: up here, but maybe not. Well. Hey, h fans have
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Speaker 1: been going crazy the last week with rumors of another
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Speaker 1: bachelorette in her boo. Uh it's bachelortte couple Claire in Dale.
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Speaker 1: If you remember right there on this season of The Bachelorette,
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Speaker 1: they left after a couple of weeks to be happy together. Uh.
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Speaker 1: And the headlines released this bachelorette couple Claire and Dale
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Speaker 1: ignore cheating talk spending Thanksgiving Day together. This according to TMZ.
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Speaker 1: Now a little background here. I know this story because
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Speaker 1: it came up on my phone. Last week. There were
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Speaker 1: rumors that Dale was caught out in New York um
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Speaker 1: kissing on somebody at a bar. Now, oh, I didn't
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Speaker 1: hear about the kissing part, but I saw that he
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Speaker 1: was like out without Claire with a couple of ladies
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Speaker 1: and I think a guy you saw you saw a
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Speaker 1: report that he was kissing a woman. Now, I've been
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Speaker 1: reading like the comments and like some of the like
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Speaker 1: drag me, like some of the stuff that's like you
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Speaker 1: would just push out the window, like the throwaway back,
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Speaker 1: you know. And so I could be wrong. Now tell
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Speaker 1: me what you know, what you've heard, and tell me,
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Speaker 1: I mean, has this been proven true? Okay, So he
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Speaker 1: was photographed last week walking around the city with a
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Speaker 1: few models after they worked on a Hugo Boss event together.
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Speaker 1: They got drinks afterward, and that's when the rumor mills
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Speaker 1: started turning out that he was smooching seen smooching uh
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Speaker 1: multiple women, But they say it's completely untrue. One of
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Speaker 1: the women Dale was actually hanging out with is married
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Speaker 1: and the other one as a boyfriend. I think I
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Speaker 1: even saw a little footage of this, and it may
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Speaker 1: have been from Halloween time. He was out with a
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Speaker 1: couple of women in New York, but I didn't see
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Speaker 1: anything roman antic. So it just looks like they've been
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Speaker 1: documenting their trip to sacrament Um. He flew to Sacramento
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Speaker 1: and they I think they're driving down to San Diego.
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Speaker 1: Because they've been posting a lot of stories singing in
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Speaker 1: the car. It looks like a road trip. Yeah, you know,
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Speaker 1: they seem happy together. Um so so far, you know,
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Speaker 1: she would be the one to know more than most
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Speaker 1: and I'm sure she asked him right, So all signs
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Speaker 1: pointed them being healthy and good together. At least that's
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Speaker 1: what we know. Um, we have no other rumors otherwise. Well,
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Speaker 1: Bachelor alum Hannah Brown consults with a matchmaker to find
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Speaker 1: love again. This according to US Weekly. Okay, so you
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Speaker 1: guys know that Hannah has a new YouTube channel. So
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Speaker 1: on her YouTube channel, she had a life coach, her
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Speaker 1: life coach Nora. I can't not gonna even attend to
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Speaker 1: the last name, who also is a professional matchmaker. Come on,
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Speaker 1: and Hannah admitted that she hasn't dated since being on
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Speaker 1: the Bachelorette, which you know is over a year and
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Speaker 1: a half ago. And she said, um, if you don't
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Speaker 1: know yourself completely, or you lose sight of that, it
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Speaker 1: becomes what do I want? Who do I want to
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Speaker 1: be with? It got really hard for me. So for
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Speaker 1: a while I just tried to numb it as much
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Speaker 1: as possible. She said that now she's in a place
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Speaker 1: where she feels comfortable getting into a serious relationship. She
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Speaker 1: says that I think I am truly ready to give
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Speaker 1: and receive love again, but it definitely has been a journey.
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Speaker 1: When the relationship coach asked Hannah Um what she looks
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Speaker 1: forward a partner, she said, a confident energy. She also
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Speaker 1: said she wants somebody who's open and of course shares
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Speaker 1: her values of honesty, having already had issues with that
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Speaker 1: in the past. Yeah. Well, it's interesting because Hannah I
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Speaker 1: haven't seen a lot of her YouTube channel. I'm sure
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Speaker 1: it's well followed. Um. You know, I did see some
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Speaker 1: Instagram where she was like trying to get out there,
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Speaker 1: trying to put herself out there, putting notes on guys cars.
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Speaker 1: It will be fun to follow this and see if
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Speaker 1: it works out. Now, speaking of dating, Tyler, Cameron is
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Speaker 1: low key dating model Elizabeth Turner. This according to Carmel
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Speaker 1: So they've apparently gone on a few dates. It's nothing serious.
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Speaker 1: She's definitely his type. These are all what sources have said.
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Speaker 1: This source also says that they don't live in the
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Speaker 1: same place and that Taylor and that Tyler isn't looking
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Speaker 1: for a relationship at the moment. They've hung out multiple
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Speaker 1: times in l A and New York. They're having fun together.
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Speaker 1: That the texting keeping a casual um. Apparently, Tyler and
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Speaker 1: Elizabeth met through a mutual friend and they started chatting
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Speaker 1: on Instagram. They of course haven't gone public with a
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Speaker 1: relationship because they're keeping it casual. Uh. And recently, Tyler
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Speaker 1: confirmed on the podcast Chicks in the Office he and
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Speaker 1: Hannah are simply friends. He's implying he's single. He says
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Speaker 1: he's single despite you know, going out with Elizabeth possibly
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Speaker 1: a few times. And he's happy to share his dating life.
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Speaker 1: But first he's got to get a girlfriend. So when
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Speaker 1: he has a girlfriend, he'll let you guys now Elizabeth
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Speaker 1: Turner scene with Leonardo DiCaprio at one point, right, that's
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Speaker 1: how I know that name is she? So Will has
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Speaker 1: been with that one girl for like over a year
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Speaker 1: and some before. So let me let me I mean, wow,
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Speaker 1: Tyler is dipping into Leo territory. Well as your researching, Ashley,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna read the next headline. Bachelor's Melissa Ryecroft and
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Speaker 1: husband Tie have ruled out baby number four. This according
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Speaker 1: to US Weekly. Well, we should talk to Melissa about
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Speaker 1: this when she's on our podcast later. Um, she's gonna
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Speaker 1: be recapping the episode with us and of course talking
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Speaker 1: about Caitlin's huge win on Dancing with the Stars because
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Speaker 1: she's also a former Dancing with the Stars winner. Yes,
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Speaker 1: then Tyler See is now dipping his toes in area. Well,
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Speaker 1: that sounds dirty. He's dating someone possibly who Leonardo DiCaprio dated. Wow,
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Speaker 1: pretty cool, good for him. Dean Angler confesses he was
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Speaker 1: disappointed in girlfriend Kaylin's passed when they started dating, disappointing
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Speaker 1: to us Weekly, I thought this is super interesting. So, um,
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Speaker 1: Dean came out about this on the podcast with Jared Help.
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Speaker 1: I second dating a couple uh week ago, and I
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Speaker 1: thought this very interesting. He said that their past relationship,
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Speaker 1: of course, we're a long time ago, but when they
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Speaker 1: first started dating, there were things that he said that
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Speaker 1: he felt disappointed about or just upset to hear. He
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Speaker 1: said that he was like, well, dude, if you're going
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Speaker 1: to flip it around and put me in the same
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Speaker 1: position that I'm putting her in, I would look twenty
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Speaker 1: times worse. So I'm not going to just sit here
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Speaker 1: and be a hypocrite and be upset about something that
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Speaker 1: she might or may not have done, while I would
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Speaker 1: have probably done the same thing, if not worse, ten
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Speaker 1: times over. He also said that he doesn't think that
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Speaker 1: you should ever really hold your significant other accountable for
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Speaker 1: the things that they did before they knew the person
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Speaker 1: that they're currently dating, and he said, you could spend
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Speaker 1: time thinking about it and dwelling on it, but it's
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Speaker 1: just gonna make yourself angry for literally no reason at all,
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Speaker 1: because it's like, what are you supposed to do about
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Speaker 1: some someone doing things before you they possibly ever met you.
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Speaker 1: It's it's interesting. I wonder when he was a little
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Speaker 1: not up maybe I don't know, what do you think
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Speaker 1: he was annoyed about. I mean, I think it's like
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Speaker 1: she just dated around a lot, and like it's hard
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Speaker 1: to think about your significant other dating around. Yeah, I mean,
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Speaker 1: if I were to assume here any I think this
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Speaker 1: is actually really it's a really beautiful statement by Dean,
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Speaker 1: because I know Dean, and you know Dean, and Dean
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Speaker 1: doesn't fall easily, and so for him to get at
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Speaker 1: all jealous care is unique, right, So I think it's
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Speaker 1: actually showing that, like Dean heard these things that Caitlin
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Speaker 1: had done what he had done himself and probably girls
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Speaker 1: that he's dated before have done and for the first
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Speaker 1: time in a lot his life, he's feeling this. You know.
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Speaker 1: Oh but that wasn't me and this hurts and it's
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Speaker 1: not fun. It's not fun to think about that or
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Speaker 1: here it happens. We all understand that it's part of life.
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Speaker 1: But I think Dean, I think this point out how
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Speaker 1: hard and how much he loves I know, it's so cute,
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Speaker 1: it's so sweet. You're right, Dean's like not the guy
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Speaker 1: that would really care about other girls dating past from
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Speaker 1: you know, all the time we knew him before. Kaitlin. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so sweet. Well, get us a little jealousy. Actually, that's
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Speaker 1: all the Bachelor headlines we have now. I do want
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Speaker 1: to take this time to mention UH that we had
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Speaker 1: an amazing time this last week doing our friends giving.
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Speaker 1: It was a really great experience. We had a lot
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Speaker 1: of people show up for the virtual podcast that we did.
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Speaker 1: We had some incredible guests. Now, if you weren't able
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Speaker 1: to watch that, UH, please go back and listen to
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Speaker 1: the episode. It was. It was a really fun time
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Speaker 1: for us and it was good to gather together and
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Speaker 1: UH and show off the recipes and catch up obviously
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Speaker 1: with some of our favorites who have been on this
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Speaker 1: show many times before. It was so much fun. Okay, well,
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Speaker 1: we're gonna take a quick break and then afterward we'll
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Speaker 1: be talking to Melissa Ryecroft about Caitlin's win and recapping
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Speaker 1: the episode with her. Staying alright, guys, we have Melissa
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Speaker 1: Ryecroft on the line. If you guys don't remember her, well,
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Speaker 1: she is, you know, pretty much a Bouchel royalty and
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Speaker 1: you have been part of the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders, making
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Speaker 1: the team. You're contestant on Dancing with the Stars season eight,
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Speaker 1: and um, Melissa also was competing for bachelor Jason Mesnick's parts. Um,
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Speaker 1: she you know, we all know the drama that happened there.
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Speaker 1: He ended up with Molly, But you got to go
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Speaker 1: on Dancing with the Stars and now you are very
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Speaker 1: happily married with three children. How you doing, Melissa, I'm
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Speaker 1: doing all right, know quite the intro um. Yeah, things
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Speaker 1: are as good as they can be, you know, live
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Speaker 1: in life and quarantine with a bunch of children and
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Speaker 1: my husband getting by like everybody else. But yeah, things
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Speaker 1: are things are pretty good. Okay, well that is good.
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Speaker 1: Did you did you follow Caitlin's journey on The Bachelor
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Speaker 1: at I mean, did you follow Caitlin's journey on Dancing
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Speaker 1: with the Stars? Well? I followed both. I followed her
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Speaker 1: on Bachelor of course. Yeah, I had to follow her
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Speaker 1: on Dancing with the Stars too. I mean I owe
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Speaker 1: that show a lot, and so I'm always supportive every year.
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Speaker 1: This year was difference. There were a lot of changes
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Speaker 1: that they made. Um, going in with Tyra being a host,
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Speaker 1: obviously there's no audience, but um, I think the talent
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Speaker 1: this year was huge, and I think Caitlin rocked it
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Speaker 1: the entire time. Now, uh, see what you want, but
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Speaker 1: obviously use a big change. Like Tom bergeron was beloved
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Speaker 1: and he was a great host. I don't think anybody's
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Speaker 1: gonna question his ability to host. How did you feel
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Speaker 1: as a former contestant having that change happened. I didn't
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Speaker 1: like it. I mean I have gosh, it's been over
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Speaker 1: ten years that I've worked with that show, so I
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Speaker 1: was all Tom that's the only host I knew. But
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Speaker 1: he was also a friend to everybody. I mean, I
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Speaker 1: think anybody that watched that show before could see the
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Speaker 1: relationship that he had with the contestants, with the dancers,
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Speaker 1: with his co hosts, the judges, and so when we
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Speaker 1: found out that he wasn't going to be a part
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Speaker 1: of it, I was like, well, it's not the same
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Speaker 1: show at all, um, And then you try to go
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Speaker 1: into an open minding, going okay, so there's a completely
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Speaker 1: different person. You know, she hosts very differently, she has
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Speaker 1: a different energy about her. Um. I just I never
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Speaker 1: got sold on it, to be honest with you, even
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Speaker 1: watching it, and I almost feel like they should have
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Speaker 1: just changed the aime of the show that way, we
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Speaker 1: wouldn't expect what we have seen in the past, what
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Speaker 1: twentysomething seasons. So yeah, I missed Tom. I I'm really
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Speaker 1: sad that he's not a part of it anymore. Tom was.
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Speaker 1: Tom had a following, and I know the people who
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Speaker 1: have been on the show in the past really loved
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Speaker 1: him and it and he was great to them as
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Speaker 1: a host. And I know a lot of hosts out
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Speaker 1: there would consider Tom maybe one of the most talented
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Speaker 1: and prepared hosts that's on TV. I mean, you know,
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Speaker 1: he was talked about in great ways. Well, we did
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Speaker 1: see a whole different season we did see Caitlin win.
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Speaker 1: There's an interesting thing that happened this year which is
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Speaker 1: really cool as a friend of Caitlin and also somebody
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Speaker 1: just really enjoys her as a person. Bachelor Nation, including
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Speaker 1: Bachelor contestants, came out and droves like more than any
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Speaker 1: contestant on Days for the Stars ever to support her. Now,
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Speaker 1: you won this thing not without support, but the support
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Speaker 1: looked a lot different, absolutely different social media era. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I didn't have social media. I'm a O G. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think a lot of it is. Caitlin
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Speaker 1: is one of the most beloved people to ever come
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Speaker 1: out of Bachelor Nation, you know what I mean. I
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Speaker 1: mean the career that she has created for herself outside
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Speaker 1: of the franchise is huge and unmatched, and I think
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Speaker 1: that you have to give extreme credit to that. Uh um.
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Speaker 1: And I think the fact that most of us knew
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Speaker 1: the backstory of her not being able to do Dancing
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Speaker 1: with the Stars back when it was her Bachelor prime,
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Speaker 1: if you will, And yeah, she's very vocal about that,
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Speaker 1: and I think a lot of us were like, let's
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Speaker 1: doesn't seem right. I mean, I know, I know some
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Speaker 1: of the backstory that can happen with Bachelor and what
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Speaker 1: you're allowed to do and what you're not allowed to do,
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Speaker 1: and what they say you can say and what you can't,
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Speaker 1: And so I felt really bad for her personally. Going
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Speaker 1: Dancing with the Stars is a huge opportunity and if
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Speaker 1: she was offered the position and not allowed to take it,
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Speaker 1: maybe because someone on Bachelor didn't allow her to. Um,
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Speaker 1: I don't think that's fair. Now that being said, look
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Speaker 1: at what she did without the Dancing with the Stars platinform,
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Speaker 1: you know, I mean, she didn't really need it, but
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Speaker 1: I think everybody knew that backstory, and because of that,
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Speaker 1: they were rooting for her so much more. One She's
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Speaker 1: she wanted this really really bad for a while. And
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Speaker 1: not only is this like a huge dream come true,
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Speaker 1: And it was so amazing just to see a drid
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Speaker 1: come true in front of your eyes, especially after a
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Speaker 1: dance like the Mulan Rouge and coming from the ceiling
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Speaker 1: on this sing. It was just like such an amazing
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Speaker 1: fairy tale moment. But she worked so hard for it,
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Speaker 1: Like and we all knew that, you know, because of
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Speaker 1: her being maybe a little screwed over in the past,
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Speaker 1: she was gonna put like even more heart and soul
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Speaker 1: into this, but this is a demonstration of just dedication, discipline.
19:24
Speaker 1: She danced through those injuries and she also like didn't
19:29
Speaker 1: always have perfect scores. You know, she struggled with the
19:32
Speaker 1: judges at times, but she prevailed and it was an
19:35
Speaker 1: amazing moment. And watching Jason watching Jason watching from afar
19:41
Speaker 1: was just at all just as good to see how
19:44
Speaker 1: incredibly supportive he is. Just adorable. I know, I wish
19:48
Speaker 1: we could have seen him in the audience, could in
19:51
Speaker 1: the front row, and that happened. I do think one
19:54
Speaker 1: of the greatest things about Caitlin this season on Dancing
19:58
Speaker 1: with the Stars is that, you know, I think we
20:00
Speaker 1: all know her as she can be snarky and sarcastic
20:02
Speaker 1: and funny and and she's got that edge to her.
20:05
Speaker 1: And she was so gracious on Dancing with the Stars,
20:09
Speaker 1: Like all the critiques that she got, you could tell
20:11
Speaker 1: like she took it in and I want to make
20:12
Speaker 1: this better. The way that she her an artem, the
20:16
Speaker 1: relationship that they had, I mean, you just saw the
20:18
Speaker 1: side of her of like she really wants it and
20:20
Speaker 1: she's working hard. She's not just relying on support from
20:23
Speaker 1: Bachelor Nation. Fans to vote it, and like she genuinely
20:26
Speaker 1: wants to do better and you know, get better every week.
20:30
Speaker 1: And I you know, I just think that was really
20:31
Speaker 1: cool to actually see that she Uh. What I realized
20:35
Speaker 1: this season watching Dance with the Stars, because I haven't
20:38
Speaker 1: watched every season, it's how important stories behind the dancers
20:42
Speaker 1: are for their performances, but also for how the fans react.
20:46
Speaker 1: And I think you're right, I think everything it felt
20:48
Speaker 1: like even when we, like Caitlin found out she was
20:50
Speaker 1: gonna be on Dance with the State, it felt like
20:53
Speaker 1: everything aligned for her to like to win, not not
20:56
Speaker 1: because it was given to her, but because she she
20:58
Speaker 1: wanted to work hard, she had a story tell she
21:00
Speaker 1: fought for this. This was what I mean. She is
21:03
Speaker 1: a dancer and she is a star, and so you
21:05
Speaker 1: bring those two things together and you're Dancing with the Stars,
21:09
Speaker 1: and she is I mean, she is a a great
21:12
Speaker 1: embodiment of not only the franchise for the Bachelor, but
21:17
Speaker 1: for Dancing with the Stars in general. And so really
21:20
Speaker 1: cool to see that, and so um last piece, last
21:24
Speaker 1: thing about Caitlin here, Melissa, Now she's one, E're a
21:28
Speaker 1: past winner. What advice would you have for Caitlin is
21:31
Speaker 1: she now enters into the season of being carrying the Mirrorball.
21:34
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think I need to give Caitlin
21:37
Speaker 1: Bristow any advice. You know, she's got things figured out
21:40
Speaker 1: and you know, I I would guess that is probably
21:45
Speaker 1: gonna be a really good year for her. I could
21:46
Speaker 1: see maybe a ring coming very soon. And it's almost
21:51
Speaker 1: like this little fairy tale that we all know that
21:52
Speaker 1: she's wanted for so long is happening. And I think
21:56
Speaker 1: I think this win is just kind of the start
21:58
Speaker 1: of some really great things that are going to happen
21:59
Speaker 1: to her. It's you now make three Bachelorette ish I
22:04
Speaker 1: mean you were in a Bachelorette but ish contestants that
22:07
Speaker 1: have won the Mirror Ball. So that's a lot of consistency.
22:11
Speaker 1: And now we have back to back winners with Hannah
22:14
Speaker 1: and Caitlin. So I wonder if people are starting, like
22:17
Speaker 1: I truly think that Caitlyn would have won if there
22:19
Speaker 1: was no fan vote. I don't know the math on that. Yeah,
22:23
Speaker 1: Like I think that that probably matches up. Um, do
22:28
Speaker 1: you think that there's gonna be maybe like a sect
22:31
Speaker 1: of the Dancing with the Stars fandom that is like,
22:34
Speaker 1: this isn't fair because the bachelorettes are going to keep
22:37
Speaker 1: winning because they have such fan support from Bachelor Nation.
22:41
Speaker 1: Or do you think that they just happened to be
22:43
Speaker 1: more talented? Well, I mean, I think it's a combination
22:46
Speaker 1: of talent and like we were talking about the fan vote,
22:49
Speaker 1: I mean, I love Nellie. I was. I was rooting
22:52
Speaker 1: for Nellie from day one. The only reason he got
22:55
Speaker 1: to the final was his fan vote. He didn't get
22:58
Speaker 1: it based on his dance ability or of scores. So
23:01
Speaker 1: it it is a large part and what the fans think.
23:05
Speaker 1: I do worry that they get ABC fatigue, if you will,
23:10
Speaker 1: you know, I mean I think sometimes you feel like
23:12
Speaker 1: especially going from Bachelor to Dancing with the Stars, it's
23:15
Speaker 1: from one season straight into the next. You know, Bachelor
23:17
Speaker 1: Bacheltte ends Dancing with the Star starts. So with Hannah Brown,
23:21
Speaker 1: for example, we saw her on our screens for six
23:24
Speaker 1: months straight and so like exactly exactly I was being
23:30
Speaker 1: getting it's um But I do I do worry. Now
23:34
Speaker 1: this has happened twice in a row. If come the
23:36
Speaker 1: next round, if somebody from Matt James, if Matt James
23:40
Speaker 1: gets on and people are like, Oh, we've already seen
23:42
Speaker 1: it too much. I'm not voting just because of what's happened.
23:45
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be interesting. I tell you one person
23:48
Speaker 1: that we're gonna get into right now that could definitely
23:52
Speaker 1: when I think is Tasia. I feel like she's beloved
23:55
Speaker 1: by many, she's celebrated by all. Right now, she's crushing
23:58
Speaker 1: it as the Bachelor at But we're gonna take a break.
24:00
Speaker 1: When we come back, we're gonna catch up with you
24:02
Speaker 1: in your life, Melissa, and then we're going to break
24:03
Speaker 1: down Tastia's last episode of the Bachelor. We're back with Melissa.
24:19
Speaker 1: Melissa now catches up on your life. You are a
24:22
Speaker 1: mirror ball champion. You have thrived yourself. You have a
24:26
Speaker 1: long list of accomplishments and things that you've done. What
24:29
Speaker 1: is life like for you right now? Um? Oddly quiet,
24:34
Speaker 1: which is really nice. I Mean, one of the blessings
24:37
Speaker 1: with this whole quarantine that we're in is that I
24:40
Speaker 1: get to stay home with my kiddos, which at certain
24:43
Speaker 1: times I'm like, oh my gosh, we gotta get out
24:45
Speaker 1: of the house. Um. On the other hand, I'm like,
24:47
Speaker 1: I've never had just this much quality time with my family,
24:50
Speaker 1: and I'm very thankful we all like each other, you know,
24:53
Speaker 1: and we're getting through this. But yeah, it's been an
24:57
Speaker 1: interesting couple of months. But I will have really take
25:00
Speaker 1: the quiet that has that has come with it, the calmness.
25:04
Speaker 1: If you will, you are part of this season. You've
25:08
Speaker 1: been part of any seasons, right, but I think but
25:11
Speaker 1: you're part of this season again of the Dallas Cowboys
25:13
Speaker 1: Cheerleaders on c MT. It is the network's most popular
25:16
Speaker 1: in the longest running series, and you're going to come
25:19
Speaker 1: back as a judge this year. How did you guys
25:22
Speaker 1: film this? And was it was it during COVID days
25:24
Speaker 1: or was this pre tip? Yeah? No, this was completely
25:27
Speaker 1: So trials usually start in May, which, if everybody knows,
25:31
Speaker 1: we were we were shut down. Nothing was happening, and
25:33
Speaker 1: so we were all just told, you're on hold for
25:36
Speaker 1: a little bit. We don't know. We don't even know
25:38
Speaker 1: one if there's gonna be a team to make and
25:40
Speaker 1: too if there's a way to document. I mean, the
25:42
Speaker 1: show is I mean over ten years old at this point.
25:46
Speaker 1: I was on the very first season when I tried
25:48
Speaker 1: out if that says anything? And um, and then we
25:50
Speaker 1: got word A couple of months later that they've they
25:53
Speaker 1: had figured out a way to do the whole process virtually,
25:56
Speaker 1: and so they had so many girls send in tapes
26:00
Speaker 1: from across the world, and that's how we judged was
26:03
Speaker 1: from our living room couch. And then the team actually
26:07
Speaker 1: rented out a hotel here in Dallas for all of
26:09
Speaker 1: the girls and for production found a way to safely
26:12
Speaker 1: do it. But they condensed what normally happens in about
26:15
Speaker 1: three to four months into sixteen days, so it was
26:19
Speaker 1: really accelerated. But I think I think Bachelor was the
26:22
Speaker 1: first production to go back with her, and then I
26:27
Speaker 1: think I think Making the team was right behind them,
26:29
Speaker 1: and so it was kind of they were all charting
26:32
Speaker 1: these unnavigated seas together. The you know, you mentioned this
26:38
Speaker 1: and you obviously have been up to a lot and
26:40
Speaker 1: you've done a lot of great things, but you mentioned
26:43
Speaker 1: something that I think everybody listening and actually myself can
26:46
Speaker 1: relate with. This has been a season of things being
26:49
Speaker 1: early quiet in a lot of ways, right for everybody,
26:54
Speaker 1: if that's an entertainment, if that's in business, if that's
26:56
Speaker 1: you know, teachers going back to school, how have you
27:00
Speaker 1: navigated this season of quiet? You said it's been great,
27:02
Speaker 1: but I'm sure there's been moments it has been difficult.
27:05
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, yeah, No, it's it's not. I wouldn't wish
27:09
Speaker 1: life to be like this, you know. And um, the
27:12
Speaker 1: position that I'm in having three small children, two of
27:15
Speaker 1: which are in school, when everything got shut down, and
27:19
Speaker 1: I'm now the one responsible for trying to teach them
27:21
Speaker 1: and entertain them all day. I mean, those first two
27:24
Speaker 1: months were really hard, and I found myself with a
27:27
Speaker 1: lot of other people. I don't know what to do,
27:29
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I we can't even go to
27:31
Speaker 1: the park or I mean, it was it was definitely
27:33
Speaker 1: a struggle. I had to change my mindset, though, and go,
27:38
Speaker 1: my kids are going to remember this. They're old enough
27:40
Speaker 1: to remember what we're going through right now. So I
27:43
Speaker 1: need to make sure that this is an experience that
27:46
Speaker 1: they don't look back on and hate and and you know, despise.
27:50
Speaker 1: But let's start making memories together, you know. I went
27:52
Speaker 1: online and bought a bunch of card games and board games,
27:55
Speaker 1: and um, we just kind of started changing our attitudes
27:59
Speaker 1: about it. And that's when I started to realize, this
28:01
Speaker 1: is kind of nice. You know. I don't have to travel,
28:03
Speaker 1: I don't have to do anything, and um, I can
28:05
Speaker 1: be with them now. Of course we're allowed to go
28:07
Speaker 1: out and do some stuff. But I think it was
28:09
Speaker 1: just the mindset of saying, I'm gonna make this an
28:12
Speaker 1: experience that they remember rather than one that they wished
28:14
Speaker 1: that they could forget. You know, yeah, that's fair. Well,
28:18
Speaker 1: one thing that's taken her mind off of everything right
28:21
Speaker 1: now is having a Bachelor on You mentioned it. They
28:24
Speaker 1: are one of the first, if not the first. I
28:26
Speaker 1: think they are officially the first production to go back
28:29
Speaker 1: and they blessed our screens co left amazing television. Uh,
28:35
Speaker 1: let's break down this week's episode, Ashley take it away. Alright,
28:39
Speaker 1: let's start with the first sort of kind of a
28:43
Speaker 1: group date. So it's a small group date to compete
28:49
Speaker 1: for a one on one. The guys have to write
28:51
Speaker 1: and perform a song. We've seen this. I feel like
28:55
Speaker 1: they've used this date idea. Actually they do to say
29:00
Speaker 1: it idea like every other season. But maybe it's because
29:03
Speaker 1: it is always quite entertaining. Anything that you thought was
29:08
Speaker 1: mentionable from this, I thought that it came but down
29:11
Speaker 1: between Damar and Ivan to me, definitely worked to stand out.
29:15
Speaker 1: I think that's who came down to. I mean, it's
29:18
Speaker 1: hard now that I've seen the episode because I'm so
29:21
Speaker 1: into Ivan and so it's almost like I don't remember
29:24
Speaker 1: how he even did. I just I'm such a fan
29:26
Speaker 1: of him now and I think he's so cute. I
29:29
Speaker 1: just the singing things are so cringe e And I
29:32
Speaker 1: guess I take myself back to and I had to
29:33
Speaker 1: do it, and we're just standing there, and Nantasia was
29:36
Speaker 1: a really good sport about it, you know, and she's like,
29:38
Speaker 1: I'm not going to grow them too hard because this
29:40
Speaker 1: is not easy. But I mean, I feel like it's
29:43
Speaker 1: different for girls for us to have to get up
29:46
Speaker 1: and write any sing a song, as opposed to guys
29:48
Speaker 1: having to get up and and sing a song. I
29:51
Speaker 1: don't know how different really, see. I feel like guys
29:53
Speaker 1: can get away with it like, oh this is silly,
29:56
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna sound bad, like I can make fun
29:59
Speaker 1: of ourselves. I think it's far more traumatizing for the
30:02
Speaker 1: girls to have to sing and show off of that boy,
30:05
Speaker 1: because it feels like you're you should like as a female,
30:09
Speaker 1: you should like carry a tune. Like it's like it's
30:13
Speaker 1: it's just more appealing if you can. But it was
30:15
Speaker 1: the guy I think you have tion, Ben, did you
30:18
Speaker 1: have to sing? Uh? No, I didn't um luckily. But
30:23
Speaker 1: there's a small little move here that I think change
30:26
Speaker 1: the game. I think it changes a huge there's a
30:29
Speaker 1: huge season switch in my eyes with this one move.
30:33
Speaker 1: It's even having her come up and sit beside him.
30:37
Speaker 1: What what a move that? That shows those little things. Now,
30:41
Speaker 1: if I'm in this situation, you can't take this too seriously,
30:44
Speaker 1: Like even if you're a good singer, it's embarrassing to
30:46
Speaker 1: get up there and starts like belting something out, So
30:50
Speaker 1: like take this lightly, do it and and like, honestly,
30:54
Speaker 1: it's those little moves like that to say that shows Hey,
30:57
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about Tasia first, my song, second, third, whatever,
31:02
Speaker 1: and I and I really at that moment ago Ivan,
31:04
Speaker 1: You've got something special here, hey, And it worked. So yeah. Yeah. Now,
31:09
Speaker 1: at the top of the episode, Melissa I told Ben,
31:11
Speaker 1: I was like, there is some perfection in this episode
31:15
Speaker 1: that I just don't even want to touch, Like, let's
31:17
Speaker 1: just let it breathe. It was. It was great. It
31:20
Speaker 1: was some of the best, the best Bachelor stuff I
31:23
Speaker 1: can remember seeing. And that was her one on one
31:26
Speaker 1: with Ivan from everything about it, from her first saying
31:31
Speaker 1: like except the Flora's lava in that game, and that
31:34
Speaker 1: was cute, and then the ordering of the room service
31:37
Speaker 1: in the pillow fight, to the extremely vulnerable and culturally
31:43
Speaker 1: timely conversation that they had and how emotional it was
31:46
Speaker 1: and how it felt like we were just watching this
31:49
Speaker 1: intimate moment that it just didn't feel like they were
31:53
Speaker 1: on camera at all. I don't even know what else
31:57
Speaker 1: to say about it, but like it was just it
31:59
Speaker 1: was so good to see and it felt so real,
32:02
Speaker 1: and I'm really glad that they let that conversation breathe
32:05
Speaker 1: and they just like they didn't cut it short at all,
32:09
Speaker 1: you know, they let it be a standout moment. And
32:11
Speaker 1: then it wasn't even done because after that they they
32:16
Speaker 1: went inside, they looked at old pictures of Tatia as
32:18
Speaker 1: a kid. It was just like the most complete day.
32:21
Speaker 1: I loved it. I think it was great because when
32:24
Speaker 1: you think about it, it's a date they would actually have.
32:27
Speaker 1: You know, it's not the extravagance and the surface level
32:31
Speaker 1: conversation because you're surrounded by all of this beauty and
32:34
Speaker 1: a higher balloon kind of a thing. It was. This
32:36
Speaker 1: is what we'd really be doing. We'd be sitting at
32:38
Speaker 1: one of our houses, maybe trying to break the ice
32:42
Speaker 1: by having a silly game. But then you're talking. I mean,
32:45
Speaker 1: the conversation that Ivan and Tasia had I think was
32:49
Speaker 1: the most in depth conversation we've ever seen on Bachelor,
32:52
Speaker 1: if I can say that, I mean, they don't usually
32:54
Speaker 1: like to go that deep or at least show the
32:56
Speaker 1: audience that with with kalin Um and Bolton, we saw
33:00
Speaker 1: a similar ish conversation but different here you're right, You're right,
33:05
Speaker 1: I had to go back, but different here where there
33:08
Speaker 1: was like a beautiful back and forth now like it
33:12
Speaker 1: was both of them mutually saying, this is my story.
33:15
Speaker 1: I want you to get to know me, and I
33:17
Speaker 1: want to get to know you. And it wasn't one
33:20
Speaker 1: person talking another person shaking their head yes or no,
33:23
Speaker 1: like just this was I would agree with listen, this
33:26
Speaker 1: is one of the most beautiful and timely and intimate
33:31
Speaker 1: conversations between two people that we've ever seen. Right, and
33:36
Speaker 1: the bread and naturally evolved from them talking about, you know,
33:40
Speaker 1: his childhood, to his to his younger brother in prison,
33:44
Speaker 1: and then to George Floyd and everything that's gone hadn't
33:47
Speaker 1: gone on since then, and it just great. Yeah. I mean,
33:51
Speaker 1: I'll be honest, I didn't know who Evan was before
33:54
Speaker 1: this episode, and he's now like he's my top guy.
33:57
Speaker 1: Seeing them together, I was like, I just there's an
34:00
Speaker 1: ease there that you just don't see with anybody. And
34:04
Speaker 1: the depths that they've been able to take the relationship
34:07
Speaker 1: on one date I think is huge. Can we can
34:10
Speaker 1: we just pousitive for a second and talk about the
34:13
Speaker 1: one thing that gave me anxiety on the state? Yeah,
34:18
Speaker 1: the feathers that gave me a little anxiety. No, it's
34:23
Speaker 1: a bowl of ice cream that big like that, and
34:27
Speaker 1: I am not good on a date like you gotta
34:29
Speaker 1: see you gotta see me do like that? Is you
34:32
Speaker 1: want to really break the eyes, you have me eat
34:34
Speaker 1: a bull of ice cream and you're like, yeah, this
34:37
Speaker 1: guy ain't that great, but freaking like mound gallon. It
34:43
Speaker 1: was like, look like five gallons. It was definitely a
34:46
Speaker 1: waste of ice cream. Cute for the visual effect, but
34:49
Speaker 1: then I can't lie. I was thinking very similar things.
34:53
Speaker 1: I was like, I could maybe have two spoonfuls of that.
34:56
Speaker 1: I have to cut it off. Yeah, it's not good news.
34:59
Speaker 1: Like credited kudos to it then, but you if that
35:03
Speaker 1: bull of ice cream came out, I would be stressed
35:05
Speaker 1: out right away, going, I don't know how I'm gonna
35:08
Speaker 1: manage this because I'm either gonna look a like a
35:09
Speaker 1: prude and I don't eat ice cream, or well, Casee
35:14
Speaker 1: and I are gonna get really close. Um well, you
35:17
Speaker 1: know I thought, and we said it every week Melissa,
35:22
Speaker 1: and it's just I think it just continues to highlight
35:24
Speaker 1: this how amazing the date producers have been during this
35:28
Speaker 1: season to make this so interesting for all of us
35:31
Speaker 1: to watch when they are stuck in one location, Like, yes,
35:33
Speaker 1: this date was simple, Yes, this date looked like something
35:36
Speaker 1: you do on a Friday night. However, not only did
35:39
Speaker 1: ivan intation make it really interesting for all of us,
35:41
Speaker 1: not on purpose just because of their chemistry, but the
35:44
Speaker 1: date produces this episode with just above and beyond, I think,
35:49
Speaker 1: once again to keep these dates interesting. These dates are better.
35:54
Speaker 1: I mean they're more real. I feel like people are trying.
35:57
Speaker 1: They're trying to Oh my gosh, they were writing horses
36:00
Speaker 1: around the resort. I mean they're they're almost looking for
36:02
Speaker 1: reasons to um say that it's silly that they're at
36:06
Speaker 1: one resort. But like you said, if you actually know
36:09
Speaker 1: the process and you know what goes into it, they're
36:11
Speaker 1: really being creative to have one location to film all
36:16
Speaker 1: of this stuff and make it feel different. It doesn't
36:18
Speaker 1: feel like we're just staying in one place and that
36:20
Speaker 1: they're kind of recycling dates. Um. Yeah, I think they
36:26
Speaker 1: made their pay this season, for sure they have. But
36:30
Speaker 1: like Ben was saying, just like less you and add
36:33
Speaker 1: dates and more intimacy on the dates because there's nothing
36:36
Speaker 1: to distract and should we go into another very fun
36:40
Speaker 1: truth or dare dates? It really was like really true
36:43
Speaker 1: there dare because there was no like choice here. There
36:46
Speaker 1: was just all a ton of dares and then there
36:49
Speaker 1: was like some truth in the end. But it was
36:52
Speaker 1: so funny. We see the guys drinking the most disc smoothies.
36:57
Speaker 1: Fear factor level, you know, we have like testicles and
37:02
Speaker 1: intestines and crickets and all that stuff. I think I've
37:05
Speaker 1: actually eat a cricket before. I don't think it's that bad,
37:07
Speaker 1: but that smoothie. Can't believe those guys kept it down. Um,
37:11
Speaker 1: then they had to make orgasm sounds and broadcast it
37:15
Speaker 1: to like the whole resort. Awful I was to do
37:21
Speaker 1: it having to do it so cringe e. But for
37:25
Speaker 1: whatever reason it hit my like funny bone because not
37:29
Speaker 1: because they were doing it, but because the very first
37:32
Speaker 1: time the guy's reactions that weren't on the dates. So
37:36
Speaker 1: can you imagine sitting there and all of a sudden
37:39
Speaker 1: some dudes moaning over the intercom and you're having to
37:43
Speaker 1: hear it, and at first you don't know what's going on,
37:45
Speaker 1: Like you don't know if I Mike got put into
37:47
Speaker 1: a bad place and it's a mistake, and then you
37:49
Speaker 1: realize that this is up something. I don't know why
37:51
Speaker 1: I found it hilarious. Yeah, one of those guys was like,
37:57
Speaker 1: somebody has demons that man, That's what I was gonna say.
38:02
Speaker 1: If I just heard those noises, my first thought would
38:05
Speaker 1: not be orgasm. That's what that is. I mean, these
38:08
Speaker 1: were It sounded demonic, It sounded painful. I mean that
38:15
Speaker 1: that you need to go to church. Yeah, that was brutal.
38:19
Speaker 1: Now here's the here's the funny part. Like having Becca
38:22
Speaker 1: and Sydney there with Tatia made it really fun to
38:26
Speaker 1: watch because they were just I mean, think about how
38:30
Speaker 1: fun it would be to have your too, Like two
38:32
Speaker 1: of your closest friends sitting beside you as this was
38:35
Speaker 1: going on, and you're watching it knowing they're doing it
38:37
Speaker 1: for you, Like that just made it I think awesome
38:40
Speaker 1: for Tasia, right, and I think it was all in
38:43
Speaker 1: good fun. You know. It wasn't one of those dates
38:45
Speaker 1: that was you've got to take yourself too seriously. Um
38:49
Speaker 1: And yeah, I I as a female, watched it going.
38:52
Speaker 1: I would love to have my girlfriends and have put
38:54
Speaker 1: my husband now tied through something like that because how
38:57
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it's funny, it's so good. Well
39:01
Speaker 1: again the date preaces did it, and they did it well,
39:05
Speaker 1: and then we enter into a weird part of the episode.
39:11
Speaker 1: Well that part was that was not on time. But
39:15
Speaker 1: it's like I feel like that part disappointed a little bit,
39:17
Speaker 1: Like I wanted to see a little more spice out
39:19
Speaker 1: of those guys, like they that they took the spice
39:22
Speaker 1: way too well. I wanted to see them like cry
39:25
Speaker 1: and grease outside like foam. I wanted to seem to
39:28
Speaker 1: get up they you know like that. It had to
39:32
Speaker 1: be uncomfortable, but they kind of like ran with it
39:36
Speaker 1: and they did a good job at you know, Habanair
39:38
Speaker 1: in the middle of the desert. Well you Ben did,
39:41
Speaker 1: I mean, Bennett did such a good job with that proposal. Yeah. Yeah. Anyways, Uh,
39:48
Speaker 1: well now that's probably a good time. Let's take a break.
39:50
Speaker 1: When we come back and break down the second part
39:52
Speaker 1: of the episode, which includes some things that really really
39:57
Speaker 1: frustrated me as a former lead, we'll be back with
40:00
Speaker 1: most of this podcast, so let's continue with a nighttime
40:13
Speaker 1: portion of that group date. She again didn't have any
40:17
Speaker 1: bachelor speak type conversations with these guys. I felt like
40:20
Speaker 1: she really made progress getting to know them. She talks
40:24
Speaker 1: about Blake letting his walls down. Um, she had that
40:28
Speaker 1: moment with Zack, which I actually expected more from the
40:31
Speaker 1: moment with Zack because I know that there is so
40:33
Speaker 1: something there. He does get the rose. Uh. You could
40:37
Speaker 1: feel the energy between them, but like there wasn't a
40:42
Speaker 1: lot of like words exchanged during that like hot tub
40:45
Speaker 1: scene together. But I just know this guy is gonna
40:47
Speaker 1: get far. Melissa, what do you think about Zach? I agree,
40:50
Speaker 1: I mean you can feel the build up between them.
40:53
Speaker 1: It almost is like, and it's not gonna come out
40:56
Speaker 1: right what I'm saying, It almost it's they're both kind
40:58
Speaker 1: of a little uncomfortable because they both are really into
41:01
Speaker 1: each other and it's like I don't quite know how
41:04
Speaker 1: to act and you don't quite know how to act,
41:06
Speaker 1: and we're navigating it. Um. It does look like there's
41:10
Speaker 1: really something there, Like he's one of my top favorites
41:13
Speaker 1: um right now. But it's going to be interesting because
41:15
Speaker 1: I do feel like we're watching this journey that's going
41:17
Speaker 1: to peak. I completely agree. I also love the way
41:20
Speaker 1: Tomorrow vocalized his worst fear about getting divorced and how
41:24
Speaker 1: he's watched his mom and how to be a child
41:26
Speaker 1: of that twice. And then I thought Bennett talking about
41:31
Speaker 1: how he was for you know, formally engaged and he
41:34
Speaker 1: broke off an engagement and didn't want to get married
41:36
Speaker 1: for though wrong reasons. That was It's surprisingly very vulnerable
41:42
Speaker 1: of Bennett. He but he shut down, he did because
41:49
Speaker 1: he he changed the subject very quickly to be what
41:52
Speaker 1: did he change it to? Well, right when he goes,
41:55
Speaker 1: this is really hard for me to talk about until
41:58
Speaker 1: my show. I get that it's hard, and you don't
42:00
Speaker 1: have to go into that stuff if you don't want to.
42:02
Speaker 1: But it feels like there's more there than what we
42:05
Speaker 1: understood from that conversation because all of a sudden he
42:08
Speaker 1: stops and he asked her a question about herself. He
42:12
Speaker 1: deflected a little bit, which again no shame to him.
42:16
Speaker 1: But I don't feel like we got a lot of
42:18
Speaker 1: why it is so hard for him, Like what happened there?
42:21
Speaker 1: Did he break it off? Um? You know? Is he is?
42:25
Speaker 1: He scared? Now? Like there, there wasn't a lot of
42:28
Speaker 1: detail following that one statement. I see what you're saying there.
42:32
Speaker 1: I guess it was just a hopeful moment because Bennett
42:36
Speaker 1: has been like such a fan favorite in the way
42:38
Speaker 1: that we find him so entertaining right that I was like, oh, exciting,
42:42
Speaker 1: there's something more there. There is emotion when he got
42:45
Speaker 1: choked up. I just kind of like, there's there's somebody
42:49
Speaker 1: behind the Harvard Gentleman. My thing with Bennett is I
42:55
Speaker 1: do I do like him, but I like him as
42:57
Speaker 1: a character. And I think that's what we're doing is
43:00
Speaker 1: we're watching Bennett the character, and so his interaction with
43:04
Speaker 1: Tassia to me is I almost don't expect it to
43:06
Speaker 1: go deeper because I think he knows who his character is,
43:10
Speaker 1: if you will. He came in very aware of how
43:13
Speaker 1: he was going to look and how he wanted to
43:14
Speaker 1: be portrayed. Um, and he just kind of he just
43:18
Speaker 1: stays on on that line with all his interactions, I
43:20
Speaker 1: feel like, but Melissa and Ashley, that brings up the
43:23
Speaker 1: question and that kind of gets to my point before.
43:26
Speaker 1: If you're been at and you come in going, hey,
43:28
Speaker 1: I think I've a lot to offer. I mean, in fact,
43:30
Speaker 1: his bio says like, I've always had women chasing after me.
43:34
Speaker 1: I now want to chase after somebody. So if you
43:38
Speaker 1: have this idea of the character, you've kind of put
43:40
Speaker 1: this character on, you realize that you're playing into it,
43:43
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, not to nowhere, unexpectedly,
43:45
Speaker 1: you start to develop real feelings for this person, Like
43:48
Speaker 1: he's really experiencing real feelings for Tassia. Is there an
43:52
Speaker 1: opportunity now for him to switch from being a character
43:55
Speaker 1: to actually being a viable partner to Tastia long term?
43:59
Speaker 1: I guess that's what I'm saying. I was excited seeing
44:01
Speaker 1: that that was about to happen. But you're right, maybe
44:03
Speaker 1: he did cut it off too soon, or maybe it's
44:06
Speaker 1: a preview of what's to come. I don't know. I
44:11
Speaker 1: I guess it depends on how invested in this quote
44:14
Speaker 1: unquote character that I've created for him. I mean, let's
44:16
Speaker 1: be honest, I don't know how he came in or not,
44:18
Speaker 1: But I feel like some people do come in with
44:22
Speaker 1: this characterization that they want and they almost don't allow
44:25
Speaker 1: themselves to get to a certain emotional point with the
44:28
Speaker 1: lead because you know, they've got this mask on of
44:32
Speaker 1: the character. So, I mean, I don't know if he
44:36
Speaker 1: really is super incitation or not. I don't know if
44:38
Speaker 1: he's going to be able to because he's you know,
44:40
Speaker 1: then at the Harvard guy, if that makes any sense now,
44:44
Speaker 1: just doing a little bit of over analyzing previews from
44:48
Speaker 1: the the rest of the season. I feel like this,
44:52
Speaker 1: the kiss that we saw between the two of them
44:54
Speaker 1: is the only Bennett Tatia kiss that we've seen teased.
44:58
Speaker 1: So I don't know that he's going to be sticking
45:00
Speaker 1: around much longer. Interesting that would be really intriguing. Well,
45:05
Speaker 1: following this group date, Uh, We're gonna speed things up
45:08
Speaker 1: a bit, uh, because the rest of the episode was
45:12
Speaker 1: was fine. There's a lot of drama between Noah and
45:14
Speaker 1: the guys, and that guys are not thrilled with, you know,
45:17
Speaker 1: Noah and I and we Still I don't see a
45:19
Speaker 1: problem with what he did. He jumped into a date
45:21
Speaker 1: where a guy backed out. If anybody they should be
45:23
Speaker 1: mad at ed. However, there is some weird stuff at
45:25
Speaker 1: the end that will get to that probably wasn't great
45:28
Speaker 1: for not to do because I just think it was untrue.
45:30
Speaker 1: But there's a moment in this episode, guys that everybody
45:34
Speaker 1: listening knows fires me up, and I've got a highlight
45:37
Speaker 1: because I've never seen it done before. It's the describing
45:41
Speaker 1: No well, that happens all. I've given up on that
45:43
Speaker 1: that I've I have preached my sermon on self describing
45:48
Speaker 1: and it drives me crazy. It's not gonna stop. Nobody's
45:50
Speaker 1: listening to me at all. I don't know why they
45:53
Speaker 1: don't listen to me. It would make me watch the
45:55
Speaker 1: show a little easier. But then decides to go to
46:01
Speaker 1: Tassia's room. Now here's the problem with this, guys. This
46:05
Speaker 1: is the second time he's made one mistake. Now I know,
46:08
Speaker 1: right now, I don't think this was a mistake. But again,
46:12
Speaker 1: I don't think this is gonna look like a mistake
46:14
Speaker 1: now I think it's a mistake. Later because last week
46:18
Speaker 1: on the episode he asked for more time with Taitia
46:20
Speaker 1: after the date's done. And I've said it before, I've
46:23
Speaker 1: never seen it done like this. You're exhausted as a lead,
46:26
Speaker 1: and all these contestants need to recognize and respect the
46:29
Speaker 1: fact that Elite is tired, like not tired of you
46:32
Speaker 1: as humans, tired in general. Like it's long hours. You
46:35
Speaker 1: talk to a lot of people. You drain yourself thin
46:38
Speaker 1: every night so that you get two hours, one hour,
46:41
Speaker 1: twenty minutes of a lone time, so that you can
46:43
Speaker 1: read fuel for the next day. It's important. If not,
46:47
Speaker 1: you'll never make it. So last week we see him
46:49
Speaker 1: asking for more time, it's pretty clear that Tastia's just tired.
46:51
Speaker 1: You wants go home. Fair This week he does the
46:55
Speaker 1: same thing. Now he didn't have time with her, so
46:58
Speaker 1: fair that he wanted to make sure he's lines time.
47:01
Speaker 1: But it's too thirty in the morning. Now, do you
47:04
Speaker 1: want to be known as somebody that shows up to
47:07
Speaker 1: your door at to thirty in the morning when somebody's
47:09
Speaker 1: tired and trying to refuel, or do you want to
47:11
Speaker 1: be known as somebody that steps up earlier than that
47:14
Speaker 1: and finds time to finds time that is not only
47:17
Speaker 1: ideal for you, but ideal for them. This had a
47:21
Speaker 1: great mix because obviously Ed shows up to Chris Harrison's
47:24
Speaker 1: room one of the best things I've ever seen him.
47:27
Speaker 1: I think it's absolutely fantastic. Like Chris answers the door, uh,
47:31
Speaker 1: pours him a glass of wine. The two of them
47:33
Speaker 1: are sitting there so awkwardly. Imagine how awkward that moment
47:38
Speaker 1: felt when you're in that room with him. Chris shnes
47:41
Speaker 1: once again. But it doesn't take away from the fact
47:44
Speaker 1: that I think Ben is self sabotaging himself secretly, maybe
47:49
Speaker 1: not even knowing it right now, because he just continues
47:52
Speaker 1: to show up at the most non ideal times. I
47:56
Speaker 1: know what you're saying then, and I understand. And if
47:59
Speaker 1: I were the lead, I also be probably kind of
48:01
Speaker 1: tired and annoyed. But if I liked the guy enough,
48:04
Speaker 1: I'd be pretty excited to see him at my door,
48:06
Speaker 1: regardless of what time it was, as long as I
48:08
Speaker 1: had makeup on. I mean, first of all, Taia looked
48:10
Speaker 1: beautiful at two thirty. That's not what I look like.
48:13
Speaker 1: If somebody you know that, Um, I think I could
48:16
Speaker 1: have gone either way. I mean, I I do think
48:19
Speaker 1: that he could have gone, and most of the time
48:21
Speaker 1: when we see people sneak out and go find the lead,
48:25
Speaker 1: it doesn't end super well. I mean, but watching this,
48:29
Speaker 1: I went I think he made the right move obviously.
48:31
Speaker 1: I mean, I think they had great conversation. Even Tasia
48:34
Speaker 1: at the end was like, this was the best thing
48:36
Speaker 1: that you could have done. And so I think if
48:40
Speaker 1: it hadn't gone that well, he'd probably be going home.
48:42
Speaker 1: I mean, two strikes are out kind of a thing.
48:44
Speaker 1: But I think he redeemed himself, if you will, and
48:48
Speaker 1: Tastious seemed to completely appreciate it, and I like him.
48:51
Speaker 1: I liked it. I liked what he did. He fast
48:53
Speaker 1: forward than to the big, big moment in this episode
48:57
Speaker 1: that will continue to play out as we watch. Uh, Noah,
49:00
Speaker 1: somebody that had a great week last week was kind
49:03
Speaker 1: of quiet this week. We didn't see a lot of him.
49:06
Speaker 1: We go to the Rose ceremony and we know that
49:08
Speaker 1: the house is a little bit uneasy about his tax
49:12
Speaker 1: tactic and and kind of how he's uh walk through
49:15
Speaker 1: this experience in his short time there. Now I'm on
49:19
Speaker 1: Noah's side up until this moment. He sits down with
49:21
Speaker 1: Tasha and he says something that I've yet to see
49:25
Speaker 1: any of the guys talk about he not. He doesn't,
49:28
Speaker 1: he doesn't stop with Hey, these guys are kind of
49:31
Speaker 1: like upset with me for getting the rose, and he
49:33
Speaker 1: he didn't even really need to say anything. Instead, I'm
49:37
Speaker 1: gonna use the word manipulates the situation and says to
49:41
Speaker 1: Tasia that these guys are questioning her behavior and her intentions.
49:47
Speaker 1: And if anything, I've seen these guys, even if I
49:50
Speaker 1: don't I'm not a fan of all of them, I've
49:51
Speaker 1: seen these guys be nothing but head over heels fro
49:53
Speaker 1: Tasia and really respectful of her as the bachelor. This
49:56
Speaker 1: replaced what are your thoughts as we close this episode
50:01
Speaker 1: on Noah's communication to Tasia. UM, I think that he
50:08
Speaker 1: put the nail in his coffin with that, um, because
50:12
Speaker 1: he did have me at the beginning of the episode
50:14
Speaker 1: when he was talking, he was like, all these guys
50:15
Speaker 1: are against me, and I have to be honest, it's
50:16
Speaker 1: really getting to me. I was watching that going, Man,
50:19
Speaker 1: I appreciate a guy that can say that that you know,
50:22
Speaker 1: the fact that these guys don't like him is bothering him. Um.
50:25
Speaker 1: But then when you see the manipulation wheels start turning
50:28
Speaker 1: in his head. And you see this conversation he as
50:30
Speaker 1: with Tasta and and maybe he wasn't expecting her to
50:34
Speaker 1: react the way that she did. You know, maybe he
50:36
Speaker 1: just thought, I'll put seeds of doubt of these guys
50:38
Speaker 1: in tatious mind and I'll go about my business. And
50:41
Speaker 1: when she came in and blew everything up, he was like,
50:45
Speaker 1: oh crap. You know, I wasn't expecting I wasn't expecting
50:48
Speaker 1: everybody to find out what I said, because he did.
50:51
Speaker 1: He waited a minute before he fessed up to it. It
50:53
Speaker 1: It was almost like he had to do the math.
50:54
Speaker 1: Are they going to know that I was it? Or
50:56
Speaker 1: should I just say that it was me? Now call
50:59
Speaker 1: me Eve? But do we have proof that the guys
51:03
Speaker 1: are a couple of them didn't say that behind closed doors?
51:08
Speaker 1: I think the proof is in this. The groups that
51:10
Speaker 1: are ound and look at each other like have you
51:11
Speaker 1: heard anybody questioned Tasha? Have you and nobody said anything?
51:14
Speaker 1: Then they're they're all shocked like, yeah, no, we don't
51:17
Speaker 1: like you, we don't like what you did, but we've
51:20
Speaker 1: never questioned Tasia. And I think in that moment, as
51:24
Speaker 1: Melissa just said, you see him shut her and go, crap,
51:27
Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't really I didn't. I didn't. I yeah,
51:33
Speaker 1: I didn't mean to make it this. I thought I
51:35
Speaker 1: was just gonna get you know, Tasha on my side,
51:38
Speaker 1: and now I think I have a lot of backtrack
51:40
Speaker 1: can do. And in the moment that splits it is
51:42
Speaker 1: when Bennett says, I think, you know, it's not gonna
51:45
Speaker 1: apologize to the guys. That's never gonna happen in this show.
51:47
Speaker 1: But he says, you need you own apology to Tasha,
51:50
Speaker 1: and I actually semi agree, like he needs to go
51:53
Speaker 1: to Tation and say, hey, these guys actually weren't questioning you,
51:56
Speaker 1: they were questioning me. Uh, and he needs to own
51:58
Speaker 1: up to that, which I think could be a really
52:01
Speaker 1: um controversial moment in his journey on The Bachelorette. Well,
52:06
Speaker 1: we see this episode finished up here and we lose
52:09
Speaker 1: this week Jordan's, Joe, Kenny, and Chason. Are any of
52:14
Speaker 1: you shocked or surprised? Yeah? Well, first off, we all
52:19
Speaker 1: wanted to see more of Joe. I mean, he's a
52:21
Speaker 1: n anaceseologist and he's on the Backachelorette and he's very handsome,
52:25
Speaker 1: has a sweet personality, thirty six, like he would have
52:28
Speaker 1: been a great batch of material, but I don't think
52:30
Speaker 1: he got far enough. Um Jason, Wow, yeah, we'll see
52:34
Speaker 1: We'll see him hopefully again, but but maybe not as elite.
52:38
Speaker 1: So then we have Chason, who just played such a
52:40
Speaker 1: major role in last week's episode, to then just have
52:44
Speaker 1: barely any dialogue in this episode and then be gone.
52:47
Speaker 1: It was kind of shocking, especially since I thought she
52:50
Speaker 1: was pretty physically attract to him. Kenny. I think Kenny
52:53
Speaker 1: and Jordan's are both the two that that I think
52:57
Speaker 1: we're the most obvious eliminations. Kenny seems to have a
53:00
Speaker 1: fun personality, but there was no chemistry there. Well, so
53:04
Speaker 1: you surprised, No really, I mean as much as we
53:08
Speaker 1: loved Joe being an audience member, I mean he was
53:11
Speaker 1: a great narrator and he was great to watch. I
53:13
Speaker 1: didn't particularly see the spark with him and Tasia. I
53:16
Speaker 1: am hoping that we see him in Paradise or something else,
53:18
Speaker 1: because I do think that he's he's great for the franchise,
53:22
Speaker 1: chasing kind of same thing. I think he was big
53:25
Speaker 1: from what the audience saw book. When I saw him
53:27
Speaker 1: in Tasia, I didn't see anything particularly special so um No,
53:31
Speaker 1: I wasn't. I wasn't shocked. This week another great episode
53:34
Speaker 1: of The Bachelor at tastious crushing. As actually said, you
53:37
Speaker 1: see very little bachelor talk at Tasha. She is straightforward,
53:40
Speaker 1: she's honest, she's herself, She's a great personality for the show.
53:43
Speaker 1: She's doing a terrific job. One of my favorite bachelorettes
53:47
Speaker 1: to watch. And I've loved watching a lot of these bachelorettes. Um,
53:50
Speaker 1: since I really tuned into the show. We also really
53:52
Speaker 1: enjoyed you Melissa. Thank you for coming on the Almost
53:54
Speaker 1: Famous podcast. Uh, you're great. Wishing the best with you
53:58
Speaker 1: and your family as you continue to kind of be
54:01
Speaker 1: in the quiet of uh most of follow our lead here. Uh.
54:06
Speaker 1: We close every episode in the same way you'll learn quickly. Hey,
54:09
Speaker 1: this has been another week of the Almost Famous Podcast.
54:11
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54:16
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54:19
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