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- 1:23Speaker 4: What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown.
- 1:24Speaker 5: I'm Brian.
- 1:24Speaker 6: I'm Nora.
- 1:25Speaker 5: I'm Lucy.
- 1:25Speaker 7: And we're coming to you live via digital recording.
- 1:27Speaker 8: From Doug's place. Your mobile place. We occasionally invade your
- 1:55Speaker 8: traveling home as you wander the land.
- 1:58Speaker 7: Hi.
- 1:59Speaker 8: Welcome, Doug Jones. Hi, everybody.
- 2:01Speaker 9: Well, I think this is the fourth time we've been
- 2:04Speaker 9: in one of my hotel rooms.
- 2:06Speaker 8: It's intimate.
- 2:07Speaker 9: But I have a suite today.
- 2:08Speaker 8: This is very fancy.
- 2:09Speaker 9: We have a second room here, so we don't have
- 2:11Speaker 9: to be on the floor next to my bed.
- 2:13Speaker 8: Well, and it's very fancy because you put your pants
- 2:16Speaker 8: on this time. So, I mean, we ask just a little.
- 2:19Speaker 9: I do love a good pantless podcast, though. Can we
- 2:22Speaker 9: be honest?
- 2:23Speaker 8: I mean, again, is it the first one I've done? Anyway,
- 2:27Speaker 8: that aside. I'm eating a granola bar, everybody. Powering up
- 2:32Speaker 8: with Doug. So, do get a snack.
- 2:34Speaker 9: I encourage it.
- 2:37Speaker 8: But I figured we'd go ahead and do our little
- 2:39Speaker 8: intros and bring you in, because at this point, you've
- 2:41Speaker 8: done so many, you're kind of the Anne B.
- 2:43Speaker 3: Davis.
- 2:43Speaker 8: We just need, at the beginning of every show, a
- 2:45Speaker 8: little square to pop up and be like, and Doug
- 2:48Speaker 8: Jones as Alice, or whatever.
- 2:50Speaker 9: Right, right, right.
- 2:51Speaker 8: We just need to bring you in as the extra
- 2:54Speaker 8: person every episode.
- 2:55Speaker 9: It's kind of like Joan Rivers being on the Johnny
- 2:56Speaker 9: Carson show. It was enough times that she needed no introduction.
- 3:00Speaker 8: Can we talk?
- 3:00Speaker 9: Can we talk?
- 3:02Speaker 8: We get a little more can we talks going on. Yeah, exactly.
- 3:05Speaker 9: I'll be your Joan Rivers.
- 3:07Speaker 10: Okay.
- 3:07Speaker 8: Okay. Way less surgery. Thank you.
- 3:10Speaker 9: Tell me about it.
- 3:12Speaker 8: So, last time we spoke, you just came from the Oscar. Like, literally. Like,
- 3:18Speaker 8: you're still wearing your tux.
- 3:19Speaker 10: I mean, we swept you in.
- 3:20Speaker 2: No, it wasn't that.
- 3:22Speaker 8: Moved all the lame press out of the way and
- 3:24Speaker 8: we're like, obviously come sit down and talk to movie. So, um,
- 3:28Speaker 8: how has it been since now being part of a,
- 3:30Speaker 8: you know, Oscar winning best picture project? Well, has, has
- 3:36Speaker 8: things changed for you?
- 3:38Speaker 9: Well, life changed, uh, uh, very little because I went
- 3:41Speaker 9: right back to Toronto again, went back into production for
- 3:43Speaker 9: season two of Star Trek discoveries.
- 3:45Speaker 8: So slather on more latex.
- 3:47Speaker 2: Right.
- 3:48Speaker 9: So I was, I was tucked away in Canada, uh, uh,
- 3:52Speaker 9: And so when I'm focused on doing that show, the
- 3:57Speaker 9: dialogue memorization alone is just like cramming for exams every
- 4:01Speaker 9: day of my adult life.
- 4:02Speaker 8: A little bit of technobabble. Yeah.
- 4:05Speaker 9: And, of course, the scientists in our audience would hate
- 4:08Speaker 9: the term technobabble, I have learned, because the techno has
- 4:13Speaker 9: lots of meaning and substance.
- 4:14Speaker 11: Yeah.
- 4:15Speaker 9: And it needs to be correct. The science has to
- 4:17Speaker 9: be right, or we're going to lose that part of
- 4:19Speaker 9: our audience. I lean towards the Babel part.
- 4:21Speaker 8: And I don't blame them.
- 4:22Speaker 9: Now, it feels like Babel to me, because I'm an
- 4:24Speaker 9: idiot who doesn't know the science. But to them, it's like,
- 4:27Speaker 9: it's not Babel, it's science. So I want to be respectful.
- 4:32Speaker 9: But it is so hard to memorize when you are
- 4:35Speaker 9: an artist and not a scientist. You know what I'm saying?
- 4:38Speaker 9: I'm not well read.
- 4:41Speaker 8: You've got a lot of other. You've got life experience.
- 4:44Speaker 8: I have other. You've logged in 10,000 movies at this point. No,
- 4:48Speaker 8: it's not that many. It's an impressive resume.
- 4:52Speaker 2: Oh, well.
- 4:53Speaker 9: My IMDb page does scroll down to 165 credits now.
- 4:56Speaker 9: Maybe I don't know what it is, but yeah.
- 4:59Speaker 8: Well, we'll see if we can get you some more.
- 5:01Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 5:02Speaker 8: It's dwindling away.
- 5:02Speaker 9: I'm hoping to get to 200 before I die. Yeah,
- 5:04Speaker 9: I don't know.
- 5:07Speaker 8: But yes, I mean, that's a lot to deal with,
- 5:10Speaker 8: just being part of that show.
- 5:12Speaker 3: It is.
- 5:12Speaker 9: But I will say that the big thing that I
- 5:15Speaker 9: noticed is we're sitting here at a convention this weekend, right?
- 5:18Speaker 9: This is Horror Hound in Cincinnati. And my lines at
- 5:23Speaker 9: the queuing up for my table at conventions has changed
- 5:26Speaker 9: dramatically since last year.
- 5:27Speaker 11: I never had.
- 5:29Speaker 9: You know, crickets.
- 5:30Speaker 8: You always get pretty well. Yeah.
- 5:32Speaker 9: I've been doing conventions since, you know, in my off time, uh,
- 5:35Speaker 9: since 2000, I'm going to say six. And, um, uh,
- 5:39Speaker 9: but I have never seen a surge like this last
- 5:42Speaker 9: year ever before. And, um, and it does create more stress,
- 5:46Speaker 9: you know, when you're at a table and you want to,
- 5:47Speaker 9: you want to hug on everybody and hear their life
- 5:49Speaker 9: story and, and, and get into the whys of what
- 5:51Speaker 9: they loved about this or that movie or TV show
- 5:53Speaker 9: I've been in.
- 5:53Speaker 8: That's great.
- 5:54Speaker 11: Great.
- 5:54Speaker 8: Great.
- 5:55Speaker 6: Love.
- 5:55Speaker 8: I want to hear it all.
- 5:56Speaker 9: Then there's a queue of people that have been waiting
- 5:58Speaker 9: for an hour behind them.
- 5:59Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 6:00Speaker 9: That makes me feel, oh, God.
- 6:01Speaker 2: Oh, God.
- 6:01Speaker 9: I got to keep this moving. So it adds a
- 6:04Speaker 9: pressure because I want to accommodate everybody, but there just
- 6:06Speaker 9: isn't enough time in the day.
- 6:08Speaker 4: I know.
- 6:09Speaker 8: It hurts my heart. Just hug. Squeeze the face. Move on.
- 6:13Speaker 8: Squeeze the face.
- 6:14Speaker 9: You saw me yesterday. I'm still squeezing faces and hugging.
- 6:17Speaker 8: Run out from behind the table and tackle people.
- 6:20Speaker 9: I shan't stop that.
- 6:21Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 6:21Speaker 9: That's a part of the deal. That's part of the
- 6:23Speaker 9: waiting in line. I'm sorry, but yeah. There was one
- 6:27Speaker 9: nice fellow yesterday who said, not the face.
- 6:30Speaker 8: I felt terrible. Try not to punch them.
- 6:32Speaker 3: I mean.
- 6:33Speaker 8: No, no.
- 6:33Speaker 9: It was like during the photo. We were getting a
- 6:35Speaker 9: little snapshot with his camera.
- 6:36Speaker 8: Like, hi.
- 6:37Speaker 9: And so I usually got to crawl my fingers up
- 6:39Speaker 9: a face.
- 6:40Speaker 5: No, no, no.
- 6:41Speaker 9: And he was like a dignified looking older man with
- 6:43Speaker 9: a suit jacket on and like a nice coiffed haircut.
- 6:45Speaker 9: I thought, oh my gosh. You know. Everything read, you know,
- 6:51Speaker 9: just normal and class about the man. And then he
- 6:54Speaker 9: starts screaming at me. And I felt horrible because I
- 6:57Speaker 9: should ask, I suppose. But I just crashed through people's boundaries.
- 7:02Speaker 8: Yeah, that does seem to be the case.
- 7:04Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah.
- 7:05Speaker 8: The one, again, just hanging out in that room there,
- 7:07Speaker 8: kind of watching people. The one that was the most
- 7:09Speaker 8: fascinating was, and it wasn't even one of yours, surprisingly.
- 7:13Speaker 8: In the same room was Christina Ricci. And she's adorable.
- 7:17Speaker 7: Adorable.
- 7:18Speaker 9: Still to this day.
- 7:19Speaker 8: Pocket size. She still looks like a seven-year-old.
- 7:21Speaker 4: I know.
- 7:21Speaker 8: It's ridiculous how petite she is. I kind of guess
- 7:25Speaker 8: I should have known that. But she's a tiny gal.
- 7:27Speaker 8: But so what's funny is the guy, there's a big
- 7:30Speaker 8: line and people are coming out and there's a guy
- 7:32Speaker 8: that's like six, five, big guy walking out of her line, weeping,
- 7:39Speaker 8: just crying. And I was just like, oh. I was like,
- 7:43Speaker 8: he really had an experience.
- 7:45Speaker 9: He was reduced to tears.
- 7:46Speaker 8: Oh, I love it.
- 7:48Speaker 9: That's kind of precious.
- 7:49Speaker 8: People have a strange reaction when they get to meet you.
- 7:51Speaker 9: I'm getting cried on more this past year, too.
- 7:53Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 7:54Speaker 8: But a movie like The Shape of Water is.
- 7:55Speaker 9: The one that's going to touch an emotional nerve. You know,
- 7:59Speaker 9: that other, like something like Falling Skies, you know, a
- 8:04Speaker 9: space invasion wouldn't, you know.
- 8:06Speaker 8: I have, it is funny just because most of my
- 8:09Speaker 8: movie geek talk is on this show. So like sometimes
- 8:13Speaker 8: I come in contact with regular people is how I
- 8:16Speaker 8: usually refer to them on the show. And I just
- 8:20Speaker 8: don't even get into it because my level of diving
- 8:23Speaker 8: into a movie is not what they're looking for. Like
- 8:25Speaker 8: it just, it confuses them usually when I've rambled for
- 8:28Speaker 8: five minutes and they're.
- 8:28Speaker 7: Like, what movie are we talking about?
- 8:31Speaker 8: So yeah it's way more than they want to get
- 8:33Speaker 8: into usually so to spare them i usually just shut
- 8:36Speaker 8: up but several times even in the last couple of
- 8:39Speaker 8: months i've had like very normal people bring up the
- 8:43Speaker 8: shape of water like it because of i'm assuming the
- 8:46Speaker 8: oscar more than anything i mean it was popular anyway
- 8:49Speaker 8: but just that pushes it into the limelight and Into
- 8:52Speaker 8: normal people's view in a way that like, yeah, other
- 8:55Speaker 8: movies don't always make it.
- 8:57Speaker 11: Right, right.
- 8:57Speaker 9: Movies with rubber monsters in them don't often make it
- 9:00Speaker 9: to a 13 nomination, you know, night at the Oscars
- 9:04Speaker 9: with including four wins, best picture, best director, all that.
- 9:09Speaker 9: That was quite a sticker on the wall. You've done
- 9:12Speaker 9: good for the genre of movies, you know.
- 9:15Speaker 8: And yet one of those normal people was still totally
- 9:18Speaker 8: creeped out by what was going on between. Hey, hey. See,
- 9:22Speaker 8: I was like, I don't know what you're talking about.
- 9:24Speaker 8: If you watch it to the end of the movie,
- 9:26Speaker 8: it makes perfect sense. Have you seen? I mean, people
- 9:28Speaker 8: hook up with fish people in movies.
- 9:29Speaker 9: All the time.
- 9:30Speaker 8: Watch Splash. It happens.
- 9:32Speaker 10: Right.
- 9:32Speaker 9: See, that's what I'm saying.
- 9:33Speaker 8: Yeah, it's fine.
- 9:34Speaker 9: Has no one seen Aquaman?
- 9:36Speaker 8: They wanted to be creeped out. I'm just like, whatever.
- 9:38Speaker 8: Put the towels under the door and get to business.
- 9:41Speaker 6: So.
- 9:42Speaker 8: Okay. That was my recommendation.
- 9:46Speaker 9: That's how the script called for it, too. In the
- 9:48Speaker 9: narration part, it was like, she puts the towel under
- 9:50Speaker 9: the door.
- 9:51Speaker 8: Guillermo's like, get to business. Get to business. Brian's terrible.
- 9:56Speaker 8: He's a terrible person. Yeah, that's true.
- 9:58Speaker 6: I feel like that movie was... really polarizing because I
- 10:02Speaker 6: loved it and I know a lot of people who
- 10:03Speaker 6: loved it, but then other people just couldn't get past.
- 10:06Speaker 6: But it's like, well, I don't know. I guess everybody
- 10:09Speaker 6: has their own theories, but I'm like, she was a
- 10:10Speaker 6: fish person.
- 10:11Speaker 2: Right.
- 10:12Speaker 9: But by the end, when you see, if you watch
- 10:13Speaker 9: it to the end, then it all makes sense. It
- 10:15Speaker 9: wasn't bestiality after all.
- 10:17Speaker 8: Damn it. Never mind, then. It changes my whole take
- 10:21Speaker 8: on this movie.
- 10:22Speaker 9: But him being a fish man mutant and a sentient being,
- 10:24Speaker 9: it just changes everything. It's not like doing your dog.
- 10:26Speaker 9: You know what I'm saying? It's way different. You know
- 10:29Speaker 9: what I'm saying?
- 10:29Speaker 8: He's pretty sophisticated.
- 10:30Speaker 2: I think.
- 10:32Speaker 9: And when he ends up having semi-supernatural sort of powers,
- 10:36Speaker 9: and he was touted as a river god in the Amazon,
- 10:39Speaker 9: and it turns out he might be one.
- 10:40Speaker 8: It changes everything a little bit. I'm just saying.
- 10:44Speaker 6: He knows what's going on.
- 10:45Speaker 8: Come on, now. Well, this, you know, Lucy, you've dealt
- 10:48Speaker 8: with him many, many times over the years. But this
- 10:50Speaker 8: was weird because Nora, in this last year, you have
- 10:53Speaker 8: joined the show. And we were already like sitting down talking.
- 10:56Speaker 8: I think you were already an episode or so in
- 10:59Speaker 8: when suddenly this like Doug Jones love like leapt out. Like,
- 11:03Speaker 8: I don't even think I brought it up. And I
- 11:04Speaker 8: was just like, wait, how is it that either I
- 11:08Speaker 8: am a beacon that calls all hardcore Doug Jones fans.
- 11:11Speaker 9: Yeah.
- 11:12Speaker 8: Because they just keep finding their way to the show.
- 11:14Speaker 8: Or everyone loves Doug Jones. I'm not sure. It's probably
- 11:19Speaker 8: that one. He's the most delightful human. Oh, yeah.
- 11:21Speaker 9: Are you kidding?
- 11:22Speaker 13: It's a thing.
- 11:24Speaker 6: Taking all my energy not to be really weird right now.
- 11:26Speaker 8: Pan's labyrinth has been.
- 11:29Speaker 8: One of my favorite movies.
- 11:30Speaker 6: Since I was like 14 and first thought now I
- 11:32Speaker 6: watch it without the subtitles because I know what's going
- 11:34Speaker 6: on I've seen it so many times.
- 11:36Speaker 13: It taught you Spanish I.
- 11:37Speaker 6: Know that's kind of precious well we actually watched it
- 11:40Speaker 6: in my high school Spanish class and at the time
- 11:42Speaker 6: I was like this is a pretty violent movie to
- 11:44Speaker 6: be showing in a high school Spanish.
- 11:45Speaker 11: Class it was rated R yeah so good yeah I.
- 11:50Speaker 8: Love that movie but with that tie in I know
- 11:52Speaker 8: there were some things you brought up did you want
- 11:54Speaker 8: to throw any other before we delve into this week's
- 11:57Speaker 8: movie I know you were like A big Skin and
- 12:00Speaker 8: Bones fan.
- 12:02Speaker 6: I think there should be way more Wendigo movies. Like
- 12:05Speaker 6: an untapped market in horror movies. I think we should
- 12:08Speaker 6: do one.
- 12:09Speaker 9: I had to look it up when I was given
- 12:10Speaker 9: the script.
- 12:11Speaker 8: What's a Wendigo?
- 12:12Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 12:12Speaker 8: That was a Wikipedia search. So scary.
- 12:14Speaker 2: Thank you.
- 12:15Speaker 8: Scary, so good. Thank you.
- 12:17Speaker 9: And that was kind of humanoid of me, too. I
- 12:18Speaker 9: looked like a guy-ish.
- 12:20Speaker 8: You started as a guy. I morphed a little into it.
- 12:23Speaker 8: A little more sickly is the thing going on. And
- 12:27Speaker 8: then you brought out The Candy Shop. Yes.
- 12:30Speaker 9: Oh, you saw The Candy Shop?
- 12:31Speaker 8: I did. A short film, ladies and gentlemen.
- 12:32Speaker 6: Yes. In my grad school research, I did minor research.
- 12:38Speaker 6: domestic human trafficking, sex trafficking. And so the short film
- 12:42Speaker 6: is about, it's like.
- 12:44Speaker 9: An allegory sort of thing.
- 12:47Speaker 6: He has this candy shop and the kids come in
- 12:49Speaker 6: and then candy comes out and all these old men
- 12:52Speaker 6: are buying them.
- 12:53Speaker 9: Lining up at my candy shop to buy the candy,
- 12:55Speaker 9: which is a metaphor for used up children. It was
- 13:00Speaker 9: a horrific imagery once you realize what's going on.
- 13:02Speaker 8: And you're so creepy in that.
- 13:04Speaker 9: I was, wasn't I?
- 13:05Speaker 6: The makeup and, like, the teeth.
- 13:06Speaker 8: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 13:07Speaker 9: I was a haggard old man that put on, like,
- 13:09Speaker 9: almost a clown makeup every day to be the face
- 13:12Speaker 9: of my candy shop and put the smile on to
- 13:14Speaker 9: greet my customer base. And it was just very disturbing,
- 13:18Speaker 9: as it should be. That's a subject matter that I
- 13:21Speaker 9: had no idea that sex trafficking was happening in our
- 13:23Speaker 9: country to that level at all.
- 13:26Speaker 8: But, yeah.
- 13:28Speaker 9: But that short film was also backed by a group
- 13:31Speaker 9: called Street Grace, which is an Atlanta-based ministry to reach
- 13:37Speaker 9: out to kids and to seek help for perpetrators and
- 13:42Speaker 9: trying to just squelch the entire problem on all ends
- 13:45Speaker 9: of it because it is a multilayered problem. And that
- 13:49Speaker 9: film was used by them as an educational tool. So
- 13:52Speaker 9: The Candy Shop, it's on the line. If you go
- 13:55Speaker 9: to the Vimeo, I think, specifically and look for the
- 13:58Speaker 9: candy shop, you'll find a search there. Yeah.
- 14:00Speaker 6: So lesser known ones.
- 14:02Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah.
- 14:02Speaker 6: Doug Jones fans, check it out.
- 14:04Speaker 8: Yeah, dive into the candy. Definitely more people need to
- 14:07Speaker 8: watch short films anyway. Trying to get those out to
- 14:10Speaker 8: the real world. Again, regular people. Right, right.
- 14:13Speaker 9: And if a short film sucks, it's over soon.
- 14:15Speaker 8: So it's not something you can invest in, right?
- 14:17Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 14:18Speaker 8: I just thought maybe that was a real machine. Really?
- 14:21Speaker 8: There's a lot of kids. I eat candy. None of
- 14:27Speaker 8: that other stuff going on. I just said I eat candy.
- 14:30Speaker 9: Screaming belligerent children.
- 14:32Speaker 8: There were a few yesterday, actually. Now that I think
- 14:35Speaker 8: about it, I could have a giant sucker right now.
- 14:39Speaker 8: Do you edit these shows?
- 14:43Speaker 5: No, no, no.
- 14:44Speaker 8: You know these people. No, I'm a horrible person. So
- 14:49Speaker 8: my only other older one to delve into, and only
- 14:52Speaker 8: because on previous episodes recently, we keep running, again, for allegories,
- 14:59Speaker 8: we keep referencing the Morlocks and the Eloi. And in general,
- 15:05Speaker 8: but the fact that I was looking, I was like, oh, wait,
- 15:07Speaker 8: you were one of the Morlocks. The Time Machine.
- 15:10Speaker 9: The Time Machine. The 2000... It came out in 2002,
- 15:14Speaker 9: I was going to say.
- 15:15Speaker 8: I think I wrote it down. Does that sound right? Yeah.
- 15:19Speaker 2: Yeah, 2002.
- 15:19Speaker 8: The Time Machine remake from the 1960 version. Which, there's
- 15:22Speaker 8: good moments, and I think the casting on him was
- 15:25Speaker 8: pretty good, and that whole setup and the machine looks great.
- 15:28Speaker 8: And so, yeah, I mean, it had some issues when
- 15:31Speaker 8: it got out there for people, but... For you, it's like,
- 15:34Speaker 8: how do you... Because I think that is, again, just
- 15:37Speaker 8: the Wells story in general is a pretty amazing look
- 15:40Speaker 8: at life. Again, our modern life and the future life,
- 15:45Speaker 8: sort of, in quotes. But, I mean... How much effort
- 15:50Speaker 8: was it to become a Morlock? Again, you usually get
- 15:53Speaker 8: thrown the makeup part of it, but was there anything
- 15:55Speaker 8: else going on in your preparation to become a Morlock?
- 15:59Speaker 12: Right.
- 16:01Speaker 9: Unlike the Morlocks of the 1960 version, the tubby blue
- 16:05Speaker 9: guys with weird white wigs, weren't they?
- 16:08Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah. They're still pretty scary, but in a different way.
- 16:11Speaker 9: Didn't their eyes glow or something? Yeah. Budget and technology
- 16:16Speaker 9: had come a long way. By the time we did
- 16:18Speaker 9: our version of the movie. And the Morlocks, of course,
- 16:21Speaker 9: there were two different types of Morlocks. There were the skinny,
- 16:23Speaker 9: spindly ones like me that shot darts into the Eloi people.
- 16:27Speaker 8: Of the future.
- 16:28Speaker 7: Good.
- 16:29Speaker 9: And that was quite a concept, too. The Eloi people
- 16:31Speaker 9: were all like mocha-colored people. Which I think is where
- 16:36Speaker 9: we're heading. We're seeing more racial blend now than ever before.
- 16:40Speaker 8: So I think we're headed there. You can't, I mean,
- 16:42Speaker 8: you can't.
- 16:42Speaker 9: If we're all one race one day.
- 16:44Speaker 8: Then we can't be racial. Yeah, you can't be a
- 16:45Speaker 8: jackass if we're all the same color. That's what we
- 16:47Speaker 8: need to do.
- 16:48Speaker 9: There's no inequality when everyone's the same color.
- 16:49Speaker 8: That's right.
- 16:51Speaker 9: I'd love to feel that way now anyway.
- 16:53Speaker 8: Wouldn't that be great?
- 16:53Speaker 9: But, so yeah, so that was an interesting concept that
- 16:58Speaker 9: I thought was thrown in with Samantha Mumba being Guy
- 17:03Speaker 9: Pearce's love interest. And so we Morlocks, I shot darts
- 17:09Speaker 9: into the Eloy people as one of the skinny people
- 17:11Speaker 9: spy Morlocks we were called. And they were the hunter Morlocks.
- 17:14Speaker 9: So there were the big lumbering smusley ones who would
- 17:17Speaker 9: then grab the Morlocks that were marked for devouring and
- 17:20Speaker 9: drag them back down under the earth, uh, to our,
- 17:23Speaker 9: our caverns below. Um, so yeah, so, so humanity, I
- 17:27Speaker 9: guess the concept was that humanity had split. So these,
- 17:30Speaker 9: you know, uh, people who stayed on land and, and
- 17:32Speaker 9: had racially mixed and then people, and then a human
- 17:35Speaker 9: faction kind of evolved into an underground dwellers, that consumed
- 17:40Speaker 9: the above ground dwellers. And so it's a, oh gosh,
- 17:44Speaker 9: to see humanity consuming itself. Again, I think it's.
- 17:47Speaker 8: A little closer to reality now.
- 17:50Speaker 9: That's just it. There was an equality and a racial
- 17:53Speaker 9: thing happening that was beautiful to see on the surface.
- 17:55Speaker 9: But then humanity had split into where we're actually eating
- 17:58Speaker 9: each other.
- 17:59Speaker 8: Well, I mean, it's just slightly throwing it into the
- 18:02Speaker 8: future a little bit. But you do see a society
- 18:04Speaker 8: that becomes nothing but the working class and then the
- 18:07Speaker 8: really rich class that do nothing all day.
- 18:09Speaker 9: And I'm like, we're kind of.
- 18:11Speaker 8: Fighting that rat. I don't know if we are anymore.
- 18:14Speaker 9: I don't recognize the world now. Having grown up in
- 18:16Speaker 9: the 60s and 70s, it's like it's a different place now.
- 18:19Speaker 9: I don't get it anymore.
- 18:21Speaker 8: It's scary.
- 18:22Speaker 9: It's scary out there. When making the movie, I was
- 18:26Speaker 9: under a heavy prosthetic make-up again with arm extensions and
- 18:30Speaker 9: discomforts that come with all that is playing a creature.
- 18:35Speaker 9: Getting through my day, I never think of political or
- 18:37Speaker 9: social issues while I'm filming a movie like that. I
- 18:39Speaker 9: want to For me, creating a piece of art, it's
- 18:44Speaker 9: not up to the artist to tell you how to
- 18:46Speaker 9: feel about it socially or politically.
- 18:47Speaker 8: I don't think.
- 18:49Speaker 9: From where this artist is talking right now, I don't
- 18:51Speaker 9: feel that way. I feel that if I do, like
- 18:54Speaker 9: making a painting or a sculpture, a piece of music,
- 18:56Speaker 9: a movie, a TV show, all art, four different people
- 18:59Speaker 9: can look at that same piece of art and get
- 19:00Speaker 9: four different things out of it. And that's what art
- 19:03Speaker 9: should do. It should inspire whatever you need that day.
- 19:06Speaker 9: So that's how I approach a movie idea. I go
- 19:10Speaker 9: into the story and the character and find out what
- 19:12Speaker 9: he's feeling and wanting out of the scene. And then
- 19:16Speaker 9: whatever the audience, it's not really art until somebody sees
- 19:19Speaker 9: it and appreciates it. And so that's the fun part
- 19:21Speaker 9: to watch. After my job is done, to sit back
- 19:24Speaker 9: and then watch the opening of a movie or the
- 19:26Speaker 9: premiere of a TV show on.
- 19:29Speaker 8: The networks and TV.
- 19:31Speaker 9: A computer. Or a computer now, yeah. To see the
- 19:34Speaker 9: reactions start happening. It's like, okay, now it's a piece
- 19:37Speaker 9: of art because it's being seen. You know what I mean?
- 19:40Speaker 8: Yeah, I love that because you get people that get
- 19:43Speaker 8: very highfalutin about their fancy paintings and anything in a museum,
- 19:48Speaker 8: but I always try to take that. that approach towards
- 19:51Speaker 8: film and TV as well. So I think all of
- 19:54Speaker 8: that is art. It needs to be kind of held
- 19:56Speaker 8: to those standards and kind of strive to bring something
- 20:01Speaker 8: like that to everything.
- 20:03Speaker 9: And I've seen artists of all those genres of art,
- 20:07Speaker 9: including filmmakers especially, that when an audience member doesn't quite
- 20:10Speaker 9: get it or has a criticism of, or this didn't
- 20:13Speaker 9: speak to me, in a Q & A at a
- 20:15Speaker 9: film festival especially, the filmmaker will tell that audience member, well,
- 20:19Speaker 9: you're just not watching it right. That is the worst
- 20:22Speaker 9: thing you can say. Because, no, no, they're watching, again,
- 20:25Speaker 9: they're the audience that we're playing to. They'll get out
- 20:27Speaker 9: of it whatever they get out of it. Our job
- 20:29Speaker 9: is to make the art, period, and not tell them
- 20:31Speaker 9: how to watch it.
- 20:32Speaker 10: Yeah.
- 20:32Speaker 8: Yeah. Yeah, I feel that with most of these things.
- 20:37Speaker 9: Unless it's Waking Ned Devine, then I'll tell you exactly.
- 20:38Speaker 8: How to watch it. Good, we'll get to that. In fact,
- 20:42Speaker 8: let's take our break and come back and get to
- 20:45Speaker 8: the movie.
- 21:06Speaker 12: I wish I was a fisherman, tumbling on the seas,
- 21:14Speaker 12: far away from dry land and its bitter memories, casting
- 21:22Speaker 12: out my sweet life for the band I'm in love with. Oh,
- 21:28Speaker 12: ceiling bearing down on me. Say the starry sky above
- 21:33Speaker 12: with light in my.
- 21:37Speaker 6: Head.
- 21:37Speaker 5: You in my arms.
- 21:41Speaker 10: Woo!
- 21:58Speaker 2: Each adult admission or 50 cents purchase at the refreshment
- 22:01Speaker 2: stand earns a punch on your treasure card. When the
- 22:05Speaker 2: card is completely punched out, present it to the theater manager.
- 22:09Speaker 2: He will then open the secret panel on the card,
- 22:12Speaker 2: and you will receive your treasure award of $ 1, $ 5, $ 10, $ 20, $ 50,
- 22:14Speaker 2: or $ 100 in cash. Other prizes include two to ten
- 22:16Speaker 2: passes to our lucky patrons. The treasure card is void
- 22:28Speaker 2: if the secret panel is tampered with. Remember, every card
- 22:32Speaker 2: is a winner. Thousands of dollars in valuable awards. So
- 22:36Speaker 2: be sure to take the treasure card with you when
- 22:38Speaker 2: you attend this theater. And to the refreshment stand to
- 22:42Speaker 2: be punched with every 50 cent purchase. Every card is
- 22:45Speaker 2: a winner.
- 22:49Speaker 8: It's a casualty.
- 22:51Speaker 9: Hopefully that encourages your listeners to get a snack, too.
- 22:55Speaker 8: Now it's time to get a snack and maybe a coffee. Yeah.
- 22:59Speaker 9: A weak one from your hotel machine.
- 23:01Speaker 8: No, never.
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- 23:11Speaker 13: Sounds like a plan. I need more coffee.
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- 24:31Speaker 8: Well, the lotto jackpot has grown to over $ 64 million.
- 24:34Speaker 3: It all started with a lottery ticket.
- 24:37Speaker 5: You got the longest one!
- 24:39Speaker 12: Wrong?
- 24:40Speaker 8: An honest cop. And a waitress.
- 24:44Speaker 6: Probably you've had good luck your entire life, which is.
- 24:46Speaker 8: The opposite of me. In the middle of a very
- 24:50Speaker 8: bad day. You just don't have enough for a tip.
- 24:53Speaker 11: I'll live.
- 24:53Speaker 8: Lottery ticket? If this ticket wins, I'll come back tomorrow
- 24:57Speaker 8: and split the proceeds. And if it doesn't, I'll still
- 24:58Speaker 8: come back and leave you a tip.
- 25:00Speaker 3: What do you think?
- 25:00Speaker 4: I think I'm never going to see you again.
- 25:03Speaker 14: What happened next.
- 25:04Speaker 4: was beyond.
- 25:11Speaker 3: Their wildest dreams.
- 25:13Speaker 2: I've got something to tell you.
- 25:15Speaker 8: Two million dollars? Come on!
- 25:23Speaker 2: Oh, my God!
- 25:25Speaker 8: Oh, my.
- 25:27Speaker 4: God!
- 25:27Speaker 3: This is a story of money.
- 25:30Speaker 8: Why didn't you stop at half? Why didn't you just
- 25:31Speaker 8: give her all the money? Don't get off my foot.
- 25:36Speaker 3: The things it can buy.
- 25:37Speaker 5: Just a quick stop at Tiffany's, darling, and I'll be
- 25:39Speaker 5: born again.
- 25:40Speaker 7: And the one thing.
- 25:41Speaker 8: You're doing great.
- 25:42Speaker 14: It can.
- 25:43Speaker 3: Oh, no.
- 25:46Speaker 8: Tristar Pictures presents. It's nice to meet somebody who you
- 25:50Speaker 8: can just talk with, you know, and hang.
- 25:54Speaker 3: This lottery thing, it's from one day to the next.
- 25:56Speaker 9: It's like you become this other person.
- 25:58Speaker 8: Ladies and gentlemen, I just won the lottery, and tonight's
- 26:01Speaker 8: ride home is on me and Miss Yvonne Biasi. She'll
- 26:08Speaker 8: put you in a straight jacket and take you to
- 26:10Speaker 8: the loony bin. It's like we're on two different channels now.
- 26:14Speaker 10: I'm CNN, and she's the home shopping network.
- 26:19Speaker 6: It's like a fairy tale.
- 26:22Speaker 4: Woman with the heart of gold.
- 26:27Speaker 3: It could happen to you.
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- 29:13Speaker 2: Hey, everybody.
- 29:18Speaker 3: My name is Jonathan Frakes, and you're listening.
- 29:22Speaker 5: To Movie Meltdown. Movie Meltdown.
- 29:32Speaker 3: Thank you.
- 29:30Speaker 5: It's time for Sofa Theater.
- 29:46Speaker 3: In 63 countries around the world, dozens of lottery machines
- 29:51Speaker 3: spin hundreds of lottery balls. It takes seconds for the
- 29:54Speaker 3: losers to realize they've lost. But for the winners, it
- 29:58Speaker 3: is an event which will undoubtedly change their lives forever.
- 30:04Speaker 3: Has the news reached Philly Mall? Nobody knows but the winner.
- 30:09Speaker 8: Good night.
- 30:11Speaker 1: Is there a greater twist of fate, winning, and the
- 30:14Speaker 1: next minute die from the shock of it?
- 30:17Speaker 4: Hello, National Lotto.
- 30:18Speaker 2: Now, I wanted to talk to someone about a claim
- 30:20Speaker 2: that I've been making.
- 30:21Speaker 10: If the Lotto Man comes to the village, you say
- 30:24Speaker 10: that Ned Devine is alive and well.
- 30:28Speaker 2: And you point your finger to Michael O'Sullivan.
- 30:31Speaker 3: Ned wants us to share the winnings.
- 30:33Speaker 8: Do you think you can outsmart the man from the city?
- 30:36Speaker 8: Would you happen to know a Ned Devine?
- 30:39Speaker 2: I do.
- 30:40Speaker 8: Well, I can take you to Ned Devine's house if
- 30:42Speaker 8: you want.
- 30:42Speaker 3: All right, Torrin, coming up here. Will you drive a
- 30:47Speaker 3: little slower, mister?
- 30:48Speaker 7: Are you on tour with the directions?
- 30:50Speaker 2: I am.
- 30:50Speaker 3: You're going too fast, yes. Uh, yes?
- 31:01Speaker 8: Michael's in with a man from the lotto.
- 31:03Speaker 6: He's never told a lie in his life.
- 31:05Speaker 3: Well, he's making up for it now, so.
- 31:08Speaker 7: Big win, is it?
- 31:10Speaker 9: Six million.
- 31:11Speaker 7: Yoo-hoo!
- 31:13Speaker 11: 894,000.
- 31:14Speaker 3: 620 pounds. How does that make you feel?
- 31:22Speaker 10: Okay.
- 31:22Speaker 3: Fox Searchlight Pictures presents.
- 31:27Speaker 7: I'll just have to.
- 31:28Speaker 3: Come back to the village and make some inquiries. I'd
- 31:30Speaker 3: like to make sure that you are Ned Devine. A
- 31:32Speaker 3: comedy that will make you feel.
- 31:34Speaker 8: like a winner.
- 31:38Speaker 7: To Ned Devine.
- 31:39Speaker 9: For Ned.
- 31:40Speaker 7: Waking Ned Divine.
- 31:43Speaker 8: This fall, odds are, you'll get lucky.
- 31:48Speaker 1: All the money that e'er I had I spent it
- 31:53Speaker 1: in good company And all the harm I've ever done Alas, it.
- 32:02Speaker 8: Was to none but me.
- 32:06Speaker 1: And all I've done for want of wit To memory
- 32:12Speaker 1: now I can't recall So fill to me the parting
- 32:20Speaker 1: glass Good night and joy be to you all.
- 32:36Speaker 8: Usually we'll throw out the IMDb. And if I remember,
- 32:40Speaker 8: the description is very basic, so we don't.
- 32:43Speaker 9: Have much to throw out. It's a very basic story.
- 32:45Speaker 9: It's a very uncomplicated movie.
- 32:47Speaker 8: That's what I love about it. I think I kept
- 32:49Speaker 8: waiting for more to unfold as far as extra, bigger issues.
- 32:55Speaker 8: And then as it goes on, I'm like, no, we're
- 32:56Speaker 8: just focusing on this.
- 32:59Speaker 9: You know me by now, Bri. All the movies that
- 33:01Speaker 9: I've requested we review are simple, feel-good... personality-driven movies.
- 33:06Speaker 8: This one's a little different, though. It wasn't a total romance,
- 33:09Speaker 8: so we veered into a different area.
- 33:12Speaker 9: I thought you'd be proud of me for not being
- 33:14Speaker 9: so mushy this time.
- 33:15Speaker 8: Branched out a little. All right. So this week's Super
- 33:19Speaker 8: Theta feature is Waking Ned Devine. The year is 1998.
- 33:22Speaker 8: The director, that was the one I couldn't really remember,
- 33:25Speaker 8: director Kirk Jones, and the plot, simple as it is,
- 33:29Speaker 8: according to IMDb, When a lottery winner dies of shock,
- 33:33Speaker 8: his fellow townsfolk attempt to claim the money. Spoiler alert.
- 33:36Speaker 2: There you go.
- 33:37Speaker 8: We're going to run this up.
- 33:38Speaker 10: Yeah.
- 33:38Speaker 8: Go watch it now.
- 33:39Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 33:40Speaker 8: And if you're trying to put it on your letterboxd,
- 33:42Speaker 8: I noticed there is no Waking Ned Divine.
- 33:45Speaker 9: On all four letterboxds?
- 33:46Speaker 8: You can find Waking Ned. And it brings up that poster.
- 33:49Speaker 8: So I'm like, did somebody just get lazy when entering
- 33:52Speaker 8: the title?
- 33:52Speaker 13: No, apparently that's the British title.
- 33:54Speaker 8: Is it the actual?
- 33:55Speaker 5: Okay.
- 33:55Speaker 13: Only in America is it Waking the Divine.
- 33:57Speaker 8: Well, no wonder. They're just fancier and more international than
- 34:01Speaker 8: we are.
- 34:01Speaker 2: Wow.
- 34:02Speaker 8: That was a little bit of trivia. British people. More accurately, Irish.
- 34:08Speaker 9: Well, the movie came out of Ireland.
- 34:10Speaker 8: They're welcome to call it whatever they want. By the way,
- 34:13Speaker 8: today's St.
- 34:13Speaker 9: Patrick's Day while we're recording this. I thought this was
- 34:16Speaker 9: very apropos.
- 34:16Speaker 8: I saw that coming this week, and I was like,
- 34:19Speaker 8: how devious was Doug? Did he blend this out?
- 34:23Speaker 9: Waking Dead of Mine has always been a favorite of mine,
- 34:25Speaker 9: along with Somewhere in Time and Notting Hill, which we
- 34:27Speaker 9: have reviewed.
- 34:27Speaker 8: We have covered.
- 34:29Speaker 9: But yeah, so I didn't know. It was just like,
- 34:31Speaker 9: that's one we haven't talked about yet. And it's a
- 34:33Speaker 9: mere coincidence that it's on St.
- 34:35Speaker 8: Paddy's Day.
- 34:35Speaker 6: Chismet.
- 34:35Speaker 11: I know.
- 34:36Speaker 14: That's amazing.
- 34:37Speaker 8: It's all coming together. It's the luck of the Irish.
- 34:41Speaker 6: And definitely the most Irish movie I've ever seen.
- 34:45Speaker 8: Maybe The Commitments. Although not shot in Ireland. Well, they're
- 34:51Speaker 8: just sneaky jerks. Where was it shot? Isle of Man.
- 34:55Speaker 13: Because the whole movie, I was like, oh, my God,
- 34:56Speaker 13: I want to go to Ireland.
- 34:57Speaker 10: I want to go to Ireland.
- 34:58Speaker 2: I want to go to Ireland.
- 34:58Speaker 13: And then I was like, oh, oh, no, I want
- 35:00Speaker 13: to go to the Isle of Man.
- 35:02Speaker 9: Is that in one of the– like the Isle of Jersey,
- 35:04Speaker 9: those isles?
- 35:05Speaker 11: Sure.
- 35:06Speaker 9: Is it like somewhere between– in the English Channel between
- 35:10Speaker 9: England and France in there somewhere?
- 35:11Speaker 13: Yeah, British Protectorate somewhere.
- 35:13Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, somewhere in there.
- 35:13Speaker 8: Okay, okay. Wherever they could get the tax break, you know.
- 35:16Speaker 9: And the scenery. Stunning.
- 35:20Speaker 10: And he takes advantage of that. Oh my goodness, those giant,
- 35:23Speaker 10: beautiful tracking shots.
- 35:24Speaker 9: Yes, that's what I'm saying.
- 35:27Speaker 8: So we set up, again, from the very beginning, they're
- 35:30Speaker 8: doing the voiceover of the news and kind of setting
- 35:33Speaker 8: up the lottery thing. So from the beginning, we don't
- 35:36Speaker 8: even get very far in before they're throwing out this
- 35:40Speaker 8: whole little setup. And we have one of our main
- 35:42Speaker 8: characters playing this fun little game with his wife. which
- 35:45Speaker 8: is not really that funny. I don't mind her smacking
- 35:48Speaker 8: the hell out of him because he kind.
- 35:49Speaker 9: Of earned that.
- 35:52Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 35:52Speaker 9: I love their relationship. The old crusty couple, the old
- 35:57Speaker 9: comfortable pair of shoes. That's where Mrs. Laurie and I are,
- 35:59Speaker 9: by the way, now. Our next anniversary in less than
- 36:02Speaker 9: a month now will be our 35th.
- 36:05Speaker 8: Do you believe that?
- 36:07Speaker 9: I love that.
- 36:08Speaker 3: I know.
- 36:09Speaker 9: So we're turning into that couple and waking the divine.
- 36:11Speaker 9: We're just like.
- 36:12Speaker 8: Oh, get off your ass. You know, whatever it is.
- 36:16Speaker 9: And if we know that love's there without having to,
- 36:18Speaker 9: you know.
- 36:18Speaker 8: Worry about it. You've got the bonus. You don't have to, like,
- 36:22Speaker 8: ask her to get a beer. You're like, you've got
- 36:24Speaker 8: Doug arms, so they just kind of reach way over
- 36:26Speaker 8: and get to the refrigerator.
- 36:27Speaker 9: That's right.
- 36:28Speaker 8: Go, go, Doug arms, and you just get yourself a beer.
- 36:31Speaker 8: So that's fine.
- 36:33Speaker 9: I'll get me own bangers and mash.
- 36:38Speaker 8: Oh, Lord. So that is one of my takes. I
- 36:40Speaker 8: don't really leave my part of the world because I'm
- 36:43Speaker 8: too broke most of the time, aside from going to
- 36:45Speaker 8: a random convention. But I'm watching this going, man, it
- 36:48Speaker 8: rains too much in Ireland.
- 36:50Speaker 9: I'm like, I can't, I can't.
- 36:52Speaker 8: I can barely handle it in my dumb town, so
- 36:54Speaker 8: if it's just all day, every day, I'm like.
- 36:56Speaker 9: I was just there at Dublin Comic Con a couple
- 36:59Speaker 9: weeks ago, and it was raining the entire time.
- 37:03Speaker 8: I was there. What a treat.
- 37:04Speaker 9: Yeah, but that's where you get the green from. Come
- 37:07Speaker 9: on now.
- 37:08Speaker 8: I suppose.
- 37:08Speaker 9: It ain't going to be green without the rain.
- 37:10Speaker 8: That is a lot of green and a lot of rain. So,
- 37:17Speaker 8: I don't know. How quickly do we want to jump
- 37:19Speaker 8: to the goings-on? Because I think... Well, let's go! I mean,
- 37:23Speaker 8: I think by the beginning, we already start, like, before
- 37:26Speaker 8: we even learn about the ticket, we start getting a
- 37:29Speaker 8: lot of this, like, well, if I had the money.
- 37:31Speaker 8: And so it starts setting up this sort of, like...
- 37:35Speaker 8: It's not a rich town that we're living in here.
- 37:38Speaker 8: But it's the same thing. Cause I just, I brought
- 37:40Speaker 8: up the same little like story art kind of thing
- 37:43Speaker 8: in the Buster Scruggs that we just watched. I'm like,
- 37:46Speaker 8: to me, when you've got like this ideal setting and
- 37:50Speaker 8: like these, these again, from a different perspective, this sort
- 37:53Speaker 8: of perfect little life. And like you said, this perfect
- 37:56Speaker 8: little couple and they've got this nice little house and
- 37:58Speaker 8: everything's great, but they're like, There's still this weird longing
- 38:01Speaker 8: of like, well, if I had the money, I would do...
- 38:03Speaker 8: I'm like, but you're kind of... Aside from the rain,
- 38:05Speaker 8: you're living in paradise and you love the person you're with.
- 38:08Speaker 8: Like everything... It's like it's people that don't acknowledge the
- 38:11Speaker 8: great things that they already have in their life when
- 38:14Speaker 8: they're busy looking for the gold or the lottery ticket
- 38:17Speaker 8: or whatever it is that, you know, is somehow going
- 38:20Speaker 8: to take them to the next level and make them
- 38:22Speaker 8: happy when realistically, hopefully, they're already there, but nobody... People
- 38:28Speaker 8: in general, I guess, don't acknowledge that. Yeah.
- 38:31Speaker 9: And this town, you don't think they acknowledge what they
- 38:34Speaker 9: had already?
- 38:35Speaker 8: I think all of it. And I think that's what I...
- 38:37Speaker 8: what i get to before the end of it so
- 38:38Speaker 8: i'll come back to that but yeah i think even
- 38:40Speaker 8: that like that's something even i try to do now
- 38:43Speaker 8: like for as pitiful as my life became for quite
- 38:46Speaker 8: a while i'm just like at this point i'm hanging
- 38:49Speaker 8: out with my dogs i try to appreciate my dogs
- 38:52Speaker 8: and like i try to stop enough to acknowledge even
- 38:54Speaker 8: what things i have that are pretty great at times
- 38:58Speaker 8: at moments so i'm like i don't know i think
- 39:01Speaker 8: this immediately tapped into that same feeling of like out
- 39:04Speaker 8: in a feel digging for gold when the scenery around
- 39:07Speaker 8: you is the most gorgeous paradise ever and like so
- 39:11Speaker 8: yeah it was kind of that same feeling but.
- 39:13Speaker 10: I think the screenplay kind of tipped that off at
- 39:15Speaker 10: the beginning though because when he goes to the beach
- 39:16Speaker 10: to see his friend he's like hey did you win
- 39:18Speaker 10: the lottery and the friend's like would i be sitting
- 39:19Speaker 10: on the beach if i did and.
- 39:21Speaker 8: That's what yeah i wrote that down as i got
- 39:23Speaker 8: there i was just like yeah i hope so if
- 39:26Speaker 8: you're doing this right so yeah i thought that same
- 39:29Speaker 8: at that same moment that's when it started planting that
- 39:32Speaker 8: and I'm just like no all of this like they're
- 39:34Speaker 8: just kind of missing what's right in front of them
- 39:36Speaker 8: the whole.
- 39:37Speaker 9: Time but that's kind of the fun of this movie
- 39:41Speaker 9: for me personally is that here's this town that's thriving
- 39:46Speaker 9: on all those points that you just taught life they're
- 39:48Speaker 9: thriving in life But here's this thing that's introduced, like
- 39:52Speaker 9: millions of dollars or pounds.
- 39:55Speaker 8: What are they using?
- 39:56Speaker 9: Euros now? So what does that do to upset that
- 40:03Speaker 9: world or to change it or to enhance it or whatever?
- 40:07Speaker 9: And what I loved about it was this entire town
- 40:10Speaker 9: coming up with a caper, like a way to outfox
- 40:14Speaker 9: the lottery system and come together and pretend that one
- 40:18Speaker 9: of them is who's still alive and well. Oh, gosh.
- 40:22Speaker 9: But can I just say that one of my favorite
- 40:25Speaker 9: scenes was when they found Ned dead in his bed
- 40:30Speaker 9: and they're trying to put his teeth back in. And
- 40:33Speaker 9: they get to giggling, the two friends. And that friendship
- 40:36Speaker 9: was just lovely for me to watch. I forget the
- 40:39Speaker 9: character names now, of course.
- 40:40Speaker 8: Those two are pretty good. And the guy who ends
- 40:42Speaker 8: up playing Ned is pretty great. He is one of
- 40:45Speaker 8: those I've seen in so many other things. So many
- 40:46Speaker 8: other things.
- 40:47Speaker 9: The skinny little fella. He's got such a great character.
- 40:49Speaker 9: That's who I want to be when I die. When
- 40:51Speaker 9: I hang up the rubber bits for good, I want
- 40:52Speaker 9: to be that guy in movies everywhere. It'll just be
- 40:55Speaker 9: easier to put fake teeth in when you don't have them.
- 40:57Speaker 9: So you got to keep doing it.
- 40:58Speaker 8: Don't hang it up. It's just easier to put in
- 41:01Speaker 8: false fangs when you don't have any real teeth.
- 41:04Speaker 9: Exactly.
- 41:05Speaker 2: I know.
- 41:05Speaker 11: I know.
- 41:07Speaker 9: And those two friends running off and running amok and
- 41:10Speaker 9: being the leaders of this town-wide caper.
- 41:14Speaker 8: Or teenagers, essentially. The funniest thing about the wife is
- 41:17Speaker 8: she just kind of shakes her head the whole time.
- 41:19Speaker 9: She's like, these idiots.
- 41:20Speaker 8: She bursts into the pub, right?
- 41:22Speaker 9: And she says, have you seen the boys?
- 41:24Speaker 11: Yeah, exactly.
- 41:24Speaker 10: I'm like, no.
- 41:26Speaker 9: Kill him yeah yeah he's the mom that moment was
- 41:29Speaker 9: just like yes yes my best friend rex and i
- 41:31Speaker 9: uh laugh about that all the time because we're the
- 41:34Speaker 9: mrs laurie would come after us like that have.
- 41:35Speaker 8: You seen the boys i'll kill him what's that dug
- 41:39Speaker 8: up to this time exactly i so related yeah but
- 41:44Speaker 8: that was one of those like as i got in
- 41:46Speaker 8: because i knew this by title i remembered even i
- 41:49Speaker 8: think the the poster but i was like i got
- 41:51Speaker 8: a few minutes in or once once the lottery we
- 41:54Speaker 8: got a little bit into it i'm like year is
- 41:57Speaker 8: this because it was it was stuck in time so
- 41:59Speaker 8: much i was just like yeah and and but i
- 42:01Speaker 8: guess because it's in ireland maybe things are a little
- 42:03Speaker 8: more simplified or or we're in this tiny little town
- 42:06Speaker 8: but i'm just like i don't think any of this
- 42:09Speaker 8: so i kept getting like 20 minutes ahead of where
- 42:11Speaker 8: their plan was thinking wait so no you're gonna have
- 42:14Speaker 8: to like i kept coming up with the lee i'm
- 42:16Speaker 8: like you're obviously gonna have to well they also didn't
- 42:18Speaker 8: specify that he'd signed the ticket till way further in
- 42:21Speaker 8: so i'm like why would you need to, if you
- 42:24Speaker 8: just grab the ticket, like, why would you need to
- 42:26Speaker 8: pretend to be Ned? But they did at least finally say, oh, well,
- 42:29Speaker 8: he signed the ticket, so now somebody's got to be Ned.
- 42:31Speaker 8: Got to be Ned, right, right, right. That, I was like,
- 42:34Speaker 8: they could have dropped that a little earlier, so I
- 42:35Speaker 8: wasn't arguing with them already. Right, right, right. Like, no,
- 42:38Speaker 8: just take the ticket and run. He's Ned, who cares?
- 42:40Speaker 8: I know, I know, I know.
- 42:41Speaker 10: I didn't know why they just didn't add their names
- 42:43Speaker 10: to the ticket.
- 42:43Speaker 13: That seems like it'd be a lot easier.
- 42:44Speaker 8: Oh, we brought one in together.
- 42:46Speaker 9: Oh, sure, good point.
- 42:47Speaker 13: I didn't think it would have been a very good movie.
- 42:49Speaker 1: Right, right, right, yeah.
- 42:50Speaker 6: Or you'd think that the lottery guy would ask for
- 42:52Speaker 6: some form of photo ID.
- 42:55Speaker 8: That's why I was like, what year is this?
- 42:57Speaker 9: You couldn't Google Ned Devine and see that that's not him?
- 43:02Speaker 8: Back in the day when they didn't do any sort
- 43:05Speaker 8: of checking on anything?
- 43:06Speaker 9: You said 1998, so the Webber net was not what
- 43:10Speaker 9: it is today.
- 43:11Speaker 8: Certainly, yeah. Not used as much. But even, I'm thinking
- 43:15Speaker 8: ahead to now, I'm like, now you're getting DNA tested
- 43:17Speaker 8: to women i know i know i know now there's
- 43:19Speaker 8: no hiding like i know there's no killing your friend
- 43:22Speaker 8: and taking their ticket like right which would happen with
- 43:25Speaker 8: most this one at least they found him i didn't
- 43:26Speaker 8: even have.
- 43:27Speaker 9: Email till 1999 so someone's gonna say that.
- 43:29Speaker 8: Okay the doug jones experience but um yeah that was
- 43:36Speaker 8: one of those like i kept getting like several jumps
- 43:40Speaker 8: ahead because they do they'll they'll go on their side
- 43:42Speaker 8: story and they'll go on i'm like but how are
- 43:44Speaker 8: you going to get to the point where you have to, like,
- 43:46Speaker 8: he's going to come to town and he's going to check, right?
- 43:48Speaker 8: And then they get there and I'm like, oh. he's
- 43:50Speaker 8: not checking very hard. Then I'm like, but they're going
- 43:54Speaker 8: to give you a check. What are you going to
- 43:55Speaker 8: do with that check? And then like 20 minutes later,
- 43:57Speaker 8: they're like, we can set up a bank account. I'm like,
- 44:00Speaker 8: you guys, you're killing me with it.
- 44:02Speaker 13: That's what you get for being so smart.
- 44:03Speaker 8: I'm not smart at all. That's the thing.
- 44:06Speaker 9: I turn off my brain and just go on the
- 44:08Speaker 9: ride they're giving me. That's how I watch it.
- 44:10Speaker 8: I just start working on the scam.
- 44:12Speaker 13: That's what you get for being a criminal mastermind.
- 44:14Speaker 8: Or a mastermind, maybe just a criminal.
- 44:17Speaker 6: But.
- 44:18Speaker 8: The, yeah, I just kept like the whole time starting
- 44:21Speaker 8: to jump. Again, I think I get too logical as
- 44:24Speaker 8: we've seen with our time traveling movies where I'm just like,
- 44:26Speaker 8: but how does, no, but you can't just a coin
- 44:28Speaker 8: and then you'd magic. I know, I know. I kind
- 44:32Speaker 8: of did the same thing with this where I'm just like,
- 44:34Speaker 8: but they're going to, it's a giant check and you
- 44:36Speaker 8: pose for a photo and then you can't take that
- 44:38Speaker 8: check to your bank. So yeah, I start trying to
- 44:41Speaker 8: think outside of the plot and I need to just
- 44:43Speaker 8: hang out in the pig farm and enjoy the pigs.
- 44:46Speaker 9: Right, right, right. The pig farmer. Oh, I didn't love that.
- 44:49Speaker 9: And him and his fruity soaps.
- 44:51Speaker 8: I'm using fruity soaps. You smell like a pig. That
- 44:56Speaker 8: is a fun running. Because there's a time where they
- 44:59Speaker 8: came into the bar and they hand him the soaps.
- 45:01Speaker 8: And I'm like, that's a weird thing to bring a
- 45:03Speaker 8: random dude at the pub. And then later, like, obviously
- 45:07Speaker 8: he needed some fruity soaps.
- 45:10Speaker 10: I loved all the setups. There were so many of
- 45:12Speaker 10: those that didn't pay off until like 30, 40, 50
- 45:13Speaker 10: minutes later.
- 45:15Speaker 8: Yes, I know.
- 45:16Speaker 1: I know.
- 45:17Speaker 8: Now i have issues with maggie maggie oh she's a
- 45:21Speaker 8: monster to me i'm like.
- 45:23Speaker 9: That was the town lady the old lady no the
- 45:25Speaker 9: young lady that he's in love with and i'm like
- 45:28Speaker 9: if you don't love him whether he's a pig farmer.
- 45:31Speaker 8: Or not screw you maggie i don't know i was
- 45:34Speaker 8: that was that was hard to get in because the
- 45:37Speaker 8: the plot was selling still selling it like we're supposed
- 45:39Speaker 8: to like her as a character and i'm like Otherwise,
- 45:43Speaker 8: I guess I do. The side scenes where you're talking
- 45:45Speaker 8: about your kid, you seem nice enough, but the fact
- 45:47Speaker 8: that you're selling this guy down the river because he
- 45:49Speaker 8: has a lame job or he doesn't have much money,
- 45:51Speaker 8: and I'm just like, but you love him, right?
- 45:55Speaker 9: I think it was simply about the smell, honestly. To me,
- 45:57Speaker 9: that's all I got.
- 45:59Speaker 8: Just convince him he needs to get another job.
- 46:02Speaker 6: Well, but also, like, you... You had relations with that
- 46:06Speaker 6: really old man?
- 46:08Speaker 8: They didn't really... Yeah, I kind of like... At the end,
- 46:11Speaker 8: they dropped that. I'm just like, so... Okay. That was hilarious.
- 46:15Speaker 5: That was hilarious.
- 46:17Speaker 9: I loved it. Plus, I thought that also made.
- 46:22Speaker 9: When a storyline is doing something that's illegal, it always
- 46:26Speaker 9: makes me feel guilty for rooting for them. You know
- 46:28Speaker 9: what I mean? But that was the part where I
- 46:30Speaker 9: was like, okay, well, then there is a direct descendant
- 46:33Speaker 9: in the mix of... who graciously said, no, the town should,
- 46:37Speaker 9: let's just all share it. I thought that was great, myself, that,
- 46:40Speaker 9: you know, that, like, his Ned Devine son was there, right,
- 46:45Speaker 9: and could have just, she could have claimed all of
- 46:46Speaker 9: it for him, right, as the next of kin, I guess.
- 46:49Speaker 9: But letting the whole town continue their, quietly and selflessly
- 46:54Speaker 9: doing that was just a nice message about humanity, I think.
- 46:58Speaker 8: Right? Come on. I think it was interesting that by
- 47:03Speaker 8: the end in the wacky chase scene where it's like, okay,
- 47:06Speaker 8: so not the townsfolk, they're fine. But the story, the
- 47:10Speaker 8: writer himself is like, it's okay if this gets to
- 47:13Speaker 8: the point of death. We can kill someone as long
- 47:17Speaker 8: as these people get away with it. I mean, that's
- 47:21Speaker 8: the writers doing. Granted, within the storyline, it's just bad luck-ish,
- 47:25Speaker 8: sort of. But I'm like, we kill off the old
- 47:27Speaker 8: lady who was about to out them.
- 47:29Speaker 9: And it was an accident.
- 47:30Speaker 8: But not the writing end of it. It wasn't an accident.
- 47:33Speaker 8: I'm saying the story is saying it's okay if we
- 47:36Speaker 8: kill somebody.
- 47:36Speaker 9: It was one of the most hilarious movie deaths I
- 47:38Speaker 9: have ever seen in my life.
- 47:39Speaker 8: That old lady's a jerk. I'm with you on that one.
- 47:42Speaker 9: When she's going down to the telephone booth, because no
- 47:44Speaker 9: one has cell phones, I guess. That's right.
- 47:46Speaker 8: Back in the day.
- 47:47Speaker 9: To make the call that outs the entire town for
- 47:49Speaker 9: the illegal deed they're doing. And then a car randomly...
- 47:53Speaker 9: Driven by the priest.
- 47:54Speaker 8: By the priest. That's right.
- 47:56Speaker 9: It was so connected. I loved it. Watching that telephone
- 47:59Speaker 9: booth sail into the air, it brought up a cheer
- 48:02Speaker 9: in the theater I was in at the time. We
- 48:04Speaker 9: were all rooting for her.
- 48:06Speaker 8: Death, which was awful.
- 48:07Speaker 9: It was so innocent, though. It felt innocent to watch
- 48:10Speaker 9: this woman.
- 48:11Speaker 8: Die and laugh about.
- 48:13Speaker 5: It.
- 48:14Speaker 8: And that's the only thing I call into question by
- 48:16Speaker 8: the end of it. It's like, again, not the town's folk.
- 48:19Speaker 8: They seem great. But I'm like, from the writer, I'm like,
- 48:22Speaker 8: what are you saying? That not only is it okay
- 48:25Speaker 8: to kill this old lady, but also that by the end,
- 48:29Speaker 8: there's just sort of this, I mean, again, we, as,
- 48:33Speaker 8: as the audience kind of want to root for him
- 48:34Speaker 8: and we want to have like a happy ending, but
- 48:36Speaker 8: I'm like, we're also like ready to just shrug it
- 48:39Speaker 8: off and be like, that's okay. Cause money fixes everything.
- 48:43Speaker 8: So like now they can have a relationship because he,
- 48:46Speaker 8: he doesn't have to be a pig farmer anymore. So
- 48:48Speaker 8: I don't have to not love him because he, I
- 48:50Speaker 8: don't like his job because money fixes everything. I don't know.
- 48:55Speaker 8: That was just like the money part of it was
- 48:58Speaker 8: kind of creepy at the end. Don't get me wrong.
- 49:02Speaker 8: I have a Powerball ticket sitting at home waiting to
- 49:04Speaker 8: go check it. I am easily that evil and all
- 49:07Speaker 8: I do is want a giant empire built out of Powerball.
- 49:09Speaker 9: An influx of money can change your life.
- 49:11Speaker 8: I'm not saying I don't want it. I'm just saying, again,
- 49:15Speaker 8: like we said earlier, I'm kind of holding this to
- 49:17Speaker 8: that artistic standard of like, what are you trying to
- 49:20Speaker 8: say in this? So we, as the audience, get to
- 49:22Speaker 8: pick which way I watch it wrong. You can tell
- 49:25Speaker 8: me I'm watching it wrong.
- 49:25Speaker 9: You're watching it wrong.
- 49:28Speaker 8: But I, like to me, that became, and I, Again,
- 49:31Speaker 8: real critics will call you out because you're supposed to
- 49:34Speaker 8: watch the movie that's there and not make up your
- 49:36Speaker 8: own as you go along. Which is what I did.
- 49:38Speaker 8: But by the end, I was like, to me, and again,
- 49:40Speaker 8: kind of basing it in that story earlier of appreciating
- 49:43Speaker 8: what you already have. I'm like, wouldn't it be great
- 49:46Speaker 8: if you wrote this as like, we don't bring the
- 49:48Speaker 8: lottery official guy in to do a lot of that
- 49:51Speaker 8: until the end of the movie. So the whole rest
- 49:53Speaker 8: of it, the whole town's like scurrying around trying to
- 49:55Speaker 8: get this big scam together and kind of working together
- 49:58Speaker 8: and getting all these relationships built that, you know, kind
- 50:02Speaker 8: of happened over the course of the film. And then
- 50:04Speaker 8: at the end, like, you know, the magical Irish wind
- 50:07Speaker 8: blows the lottery ticket out to sea. And then they're like, mm,
- 50:11Speaker 8: everybody loses out. But what they realize is that along
- 50:14Speaker 8: the way, they've built all these friendships. And they've learned
- 50:17Speaker 8: to kind of rely on these other people in their
- 50:19Speaker 8: town that have always been there. And maybe they should
- 50:22Speaker 8: have always been appreciating this. And that money didn't need
- 50:26Speaker 8: to be involved for them to be happy and to
- 50:28Speaker 8: find all these great people. And that's what I kind
- 50:31Speaker 8: of wanted from it. And then it went, nah, money's great.
- 50:34Speaker 8: And I'm like, you're right. I do want money, but...
- 50:37Speaker 8: And that's part of the laugh of it, though, I think, right? Yeah.
- 50:40Speaker 10: And this is what occurred to me while watching it.
- 50:42Speaker 10: It's pro-money because it's pro-lottery.
- 50:44Speaker 8: No, no, but the British film.
- 50:46Speaker 10: Industry is funded by lottery money. So really, it is
- 50:50Speaker 10: in their best interest, the film industry, especially the independent
- 50:54Speaker 10: film industry, to keep the lottery going. So the movie
- 50:56Speaker 10: starts out with a shot of the cosmos, which is
- 50:58Speaker 10: like the cosmos and the lottery.
- 51:02Speaker 13: And then by the end, it is very important.
- 51:04Speaker 8: There you go. I know that's true, not just in Ireland.
- 51:07Speaker 8: A lot of countries use their lottery money to fund
- 51:10Speaker 8: specifically the arts and independent films. So, like, we don't.
- 51:15Speaker 8: We don't. We pretend like it goes towards education and
- 51:18Speaker 8: look at our population. We're stupid. So, obviously, we're not
- 51:22Speaker 8: spending it on education.
- 51:23Speaker 7: No.
- 51:23Speaker 8: So can we fund some independent films with our lottery
- 51:26Speaker 8: is what I want to know. But yeah, it is
- 51:28Speaker 8: funny that the whole thing is kind of a commercial
- 51:30Speaker 8: for the lottery fund. I know.
- 51:32Speaker 13: And try to thwart the lottery because you're going to
- 51:33Speaker 13: get thrown off a cliff.
- 51:35Speaker 8: Yeah. It's okay as long as you keep buying your tickets, guys.
- 51:38Speaker 8: It's all right.
- 51:39Speaker 9: That's right.
- 51:40Speaker 8: Seven million pounds is a drop in the bucket compared
- 51:42Speaker 8: to what we keep making every week. So it's okay.
- 51:45Speaker 8: You can put a scam on us every once in
- 51:47Speaker 8: a while.
- 51:49Speaker 9: Precious.
- 51:51Speaker 8: So many of my side tangents. So did anyone else
- 51:54Speaker 8: have any other weird avenues to go down? You have,
- 51:57Speaker 8: as you know, Nora always has mini notes.
- 51:59Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 52:00Speaker 6: Just like as I'm watching it. I loved that when
- 52:04Speaker 6: they all agreed to the plan, they got a glass
- 52:06Speaker 6: of whiskey. when they all lined up at the table.
- 52:09Speaker 8: I feel like that's not an unusual thing in Ireland.
- 52:13Speaker 6: And then as soon as they all agreed to it,
- 52:15Speaker 6: they all went to the bar and totally overcrowded the bar.
- 52:18Speaker 8: And I was like, man, they're.
- 52:19Speaker 6: Both having a good time.
- 52:21Speaker 9: That's like going to Grandma's for Christmas. It's a very
- 52:22Speaker 9: family feeling about that.
- 52:24Speaker 8: I loved it. That's part of my upbringing, so I
- 52:26Speaker 8: can make fun of Irish people. Of course you can.
- 52:28Speaker 8: Drunken people. That's what we are. It's fine. I have.
- 52:33Speaker 6: Oh, um... There was one part where Michael, who was
- 52:36Speaker 6: the tall, skinny, older man, was on his motorcycle and shirtless,
- 52:41Speaker 6: and he had so many wrinkles that he looked like
- 52:43Speaker 6: the pale man.
- 52:44Speaker 8: From Pan's Labyrinth. Let's do a tie-in, shall we?
- 52:47Speaker 9: I never even thought that was long before I did
- 52:49Speaker 9: Pan's Labyrinth. I never even put that together.
- 52:51Speaker 8: You were inspired by Waking Dead.
- 52:53Speaker 9: Now, seeing the TV ads for the movie, that was
- 52:56Speaker 9: the shot that they kept showing in the movie trailer
- 52:59Speaker 9: for the 30-second trailer, because that was the big laugh.
- 53:02Speaker 9: Have you seen Waking the Divine? Is that the one
- 53:04Speaker 9: with the naked guy on the motorcycle? No, that was
- 53:07Speaker 9: the image everyone called.
- 53:08Speaker 8: I downloaded something like that the other day, but I
- 53:10Speaker 8: think that was different.
- 53:12Speaker 12: Child, child.
- 53:14Speaker 8: There's a lot of weird stuff on the internet, I'm
- 53:18Speaker 8: just saying.
- 53:20Speaker 10: Let's not forget there's not one, but two naked centenarians
- 53:23Speaker 10: on motorcycles.
- 53:24Speaker 8: The same motorcycle.
- 53:26Speaker 2: Precious, right?
- 53:27Speaker 9: Bless their hearts.
- 53:29Speaker 6: Real friendships.
- 53:30Speaker 8: But that's also that moment is like, you're watching and
- 53:34Speaker 8: I'm like, okay, it's funny, but this is like wacky
- 53:36Speaker 8: movie logic. Because at any point in your real life,
- 53:39Speaker 8: would you ever... Throw down your clothes to go do
- 53:42Speaker 8: whatever crazy scam you're in the middle of.
- 53:44Speaker 9: If you're not thinking and you need to get there
- 53:45Speaker 9: fast enough.
- 53:46Speaker 8: I think there's just a basic.
- 53:47Speaker 9: That's wasted time.
- 53:48Speaker 8: There's a base. At least like hang on to your
- 53:51Speaker 8: pants and throw them over while you're driving. And then
- 53:53Speaker 8: when you get to a stoplight.
- 53:54Speaker 9: Then shimmy them on real quick.
- 53:56Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 53:56Speaker 8: You get up next to the car next to you
- 53:58Speaker 8: and put your pants on. You're being too logical. This
- 54:00Speaker 8: is what I get myself in trouble with.
- 54:02Speaker 6: Those Europeans are just so much less uptight about nudity.
- 54:05Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 54:07Speaker 6: It's normal to go for naked motorcycle rides with your
- 54:10Speaker 6: best friend.
- 54:12Speaker 9: The word friendship you brought up, another favorite scene of
- 54:15Speaker 9: mine was the funeral. They had Ned's funeral, but they
- 54:21Speaker 9: faked the name up. I'm forgetting character names now, but
- 54:27Speaker 9: when the heavier guy is talking about the skinny guy
- 54:31Speaker 9: and doing that whole... Summing up his eulogizing his best friend.
- 54:36Speaker 8: If you could be at your own funeral.
- 54:37Speaker 4: Right.
- 54:37Speaker 9: It was such a great moment.
- 54:39Speaker 8: And that's the thing. There are so many great scenes
- 54:41Speaker 8: in it. And that is one of those that you're
- 54:43Speaker 8: just like, oh, no, this is where you spent your
- 54:45Speaker 8: writing time. Like, putting his little speech together is great. Oh,
- 54:48Speaker 8: of course. This is why the loopholes are over here.
- 54:50Speaker 8: But when it comes together, like, that speech is pretty amazing.
- 54:54Speaker 8: Especially with the guy sitting there.
- 54:55Speaker 10: I know.
- 54:56Speaker 9: It's a powerful moment. It's a speech we all want
- 54:57Speaker 9: to hear from our best friend, I think, at some point.
- 55:00Speaker 9: If we could hear our eulogies before we die, that
- 55:02Speaker 9: would be great. Reminds us to tell those we love
- 55:05Speaker 9: that we love them, I think.
- 55:06Speaker 8: We love you, Doug. Just Doug, though. Nobody else. Just
- 55:11Speaker 8: throw your affections towards them. Ignore your loved ones. Any
- 55:19Speaker 8: other weird facts?
- 55:24Speaker 6: Just so many quotes that I really enjoy.
- 55:27Speaker 9: I want to hear quotes.
- 55:29Speaker 6: When they find Ned dead and then he's going on
- 55:33Speaker 6: about some chicken dinner. I don't really remember why, but
- 55:36Speaker 6: he goes, there are two things we need to do
- 55:38Speaker 6: before we go, Michael. And by far the chicken dinner
- 55:41Speaker 6: is the least gruesome. I liked that one.
- 55:47Speaker 8: Chicken dinner. I don't know.
- 55:48Speaker 6: Yes.
- 55:49Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 55:51Speaker 8: My weird again like the rest of it kind of
- 55:54Speaker 8: holds because it's such a simplified story everything kind of
- 55:57Speaker 8: flows together the only thing that stood out was the
- 56:00Speaker 8: weird preacher and the kid scenes were so disjointed I'm
- 56:05Speaker 8: like I kept waiting I'm like are we going to
- 56:07Speaker 8: a creepy place here and I was like I don't
- 56:09Speaker 8: think so because the tone of this movie isn't that
- 56:11Speaker 8: but then I was just by the end I'm like
- 56:12Speaker 8: we're not but they seem so the only thing it
- 56:16Speaker 8: helped I was like it at least gives you a
- 56:17Speaker 8: little bit with the kid so we're invested in him
- 56:19Speaker 8: because otherwise that kid has very few scenes that aren't
- 56:23Speaker 8: the ones with the preacher. So it's like, they just
- 56:26Speaker 8: felt so forced and like not really connected to anything
- 56:29Speaker 8: else going on. It was just like, Hey, how's things.
- 56:31Speaker 2: Going with you? All right.
- 56:33Speaker 8: You're doing an okay job as a preacher. And like,
- 56:35Speaker 8: it was just so like random conversations with these two.
- 56:38Speaker 8: And I'm like, all right, let's get back to the scam.
- 56:40Speaker 2: I guess.
- 56:41Speaker 8: I don't know what you guys are talking about over here,
- 56:43Speaker 8: but they seem so like forced in there that I'm like,
- 56:46Speaker 8: was there something else that he was going to build
- 56:49Speaker 8: that into? And then just went, they're fine.
- 56:51Speaker 9: We just we need to see the kid a little
- 56:52Speaker 9: bit so in a town like that in ireland like
- 56:55Speaker 9: the the preacher vicar is going to be a huge
- 56:57Speaker 9: part of that community so maybe that's it well.
- 57:00Speaker 8: I thought that was an interesting thing that he wasn't
- 57:02Speaker 8: the regular guy for the time that he was the
- 57:04Speaker 8: implant that was there kind of filling in while the
- 57:07Speaker 8: other guy was gone so there could i feel like
- 57:10Speaker 8: i've been more done with that like his perspective especially
- 57:13Speaker 8: being like in a in a story that's kind of
- 57:17Speaker 8: blurring the lines of what's right and wrong here. Morality, yeah.
- 57:20Speaker 8: That he should be the outsider, kind of being like, well, guys,
- 57:23Speaker 8: is this okay? It seems like he'd be the moral...
- 57:26Speaker 8: figure to step up and be like is this really
- 57:29Speaker 8: the right thing but in like one line they're just
- 57:32Speaker 8: like it keeps filling up the collection plate good enough
- 57:34Speaker 8: for me just like father what's his name will be
- 57:37Speaker 8: fine with it i'm just like he'll be happy with
- 57:38Speaker 8: that i was like oh well.
- 57:41Speaker 10: We had to set up the other preacher coming backs
- 57:43Speaker 10: to murder the woman that's right right.
- 57:46Speaker 9: Right right we had to have someone a murdering preacher
- 57:49Speaker 9: that's what we're right no he wasn't.
- 57:52Speaker 11: Murdering accidental manslaughter he'll get off it's fine yeah just
- 57:59Speaker 11: a minor traffic violation really sure polluting the ocean maybe.
- 58:05Speaker 8: With evil women gotta dig that call box out of the.
- 58:09Speaker 6: Ocean yeah snitches get thrown into the ocean.
- 58:14Speaker 8: Again, these are the lessons it's teaching us.
- 58:17Speaker 6: Classic saying.
- 58:19Speaker 8: I keep looking at it from the writing standpoint more
- 58:21Speaker 8: than the story standpoint. I'm like, yeah, this has some
- 58:24Speaker 8: very specific points it's trying to make. Shut up and
- 58:28Speaker 8: take the payoff.
- 58:29Speaker 9: Keep your mouth shut.
- 58:30Speaker 8: Keep your mouth shut.
- 58:34Speaker 13: I also did worry about that little boy not having
- 58:36Speaker 13: a peer group.
- 58:36Speaker 6: I mean, he's just the only child.
- 58:37Speaker 8: He's the only child in the entire town. That's true.
- 58:40Speaker 8: Good point. That is a weird town that, like, everybody
- 58:43Speaker 8: was old. Yeah, it was a childless town. I guess
- 58:47Speaker 8: that's why that poor young girl hooked up with an
- 58:48Speaker 8: old man.
- 58:49Speaker 9: Okay.
- 58:50Speaker 8: I have nothing but a pig farmer and a bunch
- 58:52Speaker 8: of old dudes. This is my crop.
- 58:54Speaker 9: At least he didn't smell like a hog.
- 58:56Speaker 8: Enough. At least Ned was nice and Irish fresh. That's right.
- 59:01Speaker 8: I couldn't resist him. He smelled clean. Fruity soaps and whatnot.
- 59:05Speaker 9: Fruity soaps.
- 59:06Speaker 6: Also, did you notice at the end that the kid
- 59:08Speaker 6: is like smoking a cigar at the back? Yeah. And
- 59:10Speaker 6: holding what looks like a glass of wine or something?
- 59:13Speaker 8: He's rich now, of course. He can do whatever he wants.
- 59:15Speaker 6: Where did that come from?
- 59:17Speaker 8: Okay.
- 59:17Speaker 9: Again, the moral compass might have been off. There are
- 59:19Speaker 9: no adults in this town. They're all just like, again,
- 59:23Speaker 9: they're all teenagers.
- 59:24Speaker 8: Teenagers. They're all putting on this grand scheme to get ahead.
- 59:27Speaker 8: So at the end, it's like smoking? Sure, kid. Go ahead.
- 59:30Speaker 8: Want a booze? Here you go. Have some Irish whiskey.
- 59:33Speaker 9: You'll be fine. Yeah, here you go.
- 59:34Speaker 6: Maybe it's like a Benjamin Button situation. And really, he's
- 59:39Speaker 6: also like 75.
- 59:40Speaker 8: 75. He's the oldest member of the town.
- 59:43Speaker 9: Yeah, the town.
- 59:43Speaker 8: That's right. Oh, what else?
- 59:49Speaker 9: I'm going to play with your ear.
- 59:52Speaker 10: Okay.
- 59:53Speaker 8: Doug does touch me a lot. Just letting you guys know.
- 59:56Speaker 9: I touch everybody.
- 59:57Speaker 8: That's true. I saw it yesterday.
- 59:59Speaker 9: You're the closest within reach.
- 1:00:00Speaker 8: Right out in the middle of the room. A lot
- 1:00:02Speaker 8: of touching was going on.
- 1:00:03Speaker 2: Okay.
- 1:00:06Speaker 9: The way you put it, it sounds so dirty.
- 1:00:10Speaker 8: It's touching with love.
- 1:00:11Speaker 9: There's huggles and face cups. That's innocent.
- 1:00:16Speaker 8: It's a lot of love. As I've said, if anybody
- 1:00:19Speaker 8: puts you on a pedestal higher than most people, Again,
- 1:00:23Speaker 8: for those of you listening to the show normally, he's
- 1:00:26Speaker 8: hugged Misty and lives to tell about it. And she
- 1:00:29Speaker 8: enjoyed it. This is someone who doesn't leave the house
- 1:00:32Speaker 8: usually because she's so antisocial. But something special about Doug
- 1:00:37Speaker 8: allows it. So really, you are in your own special
- 1:00:41Speaker 8: breed of some sort because even the antisocial weirdos that
- 1:00:45Speaker 8: I hang out with enjoy the Doug hand faces and
- 1:00:50Speaker 8: hugs and Yeah, it's surprising. There's something special about Doug.
- 1:00:57Speaker 8: That's the new script I'm also working on. There's something
- 1:00:59Speaker 8: special about Doug, and it's going to be a rom-com.
- 1:01:03Speaker 9: Can it be set in Ireland?
- 1:01:04Speaker 8: In Ireland, and Doug's going to be riding a motor scooter. Yeah, naked.
- 1:01:09Speaker 9: Hey, my next birthday will be 59. I'm getting close
- 1:01:11Speaker 9: to the saggy bits.
- 1:01:14Speaker 8: We'll latex it up. It'll be fine. We'll encase you
- 1:01:17Speaker 8: in latex like every job you have.
- 1:01:19Speaker 9: Yeah, what else is new?
- 1:01:23Speaker 8: So, I don't know. I've thrown out many of my
- 1:01:25Speaker 8: takeaways from this movie. Is there anything else? I guess
- 1:01:27Speaker 8: we can go with some of the better ones. Give
- 1:01:30Speaker 8: your good wrap-up of why you... What made this one
- 1:01:33Speaker 8: of those that you've kind of been drawn to over
- 1:01:35Speaker 8: the years?
- 1:01:36Speaker 9: I don't know. Sense of community. And, yes, enjoy the
- 1:01:42Speaker 9: place you've been planted, I guess.
- 1:01:44Speaker 10: Yeah.
- 1:01:44Speaker 9: That's my takeaway.
- 1:01:46Speaker 8: It is gorgeous when it's not raining. Yeah. And, like,
- 1:01:48Speaker 8: everything else about it looks amazing.
- 1:01:51Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
- 1:01:51Speaker 8: Yeah looking at the director's lineup like it's a lot
- 1:01:54Speaker 8: of weird like this was to me like the big
- 1:01:57Speaker 8: one that i'd heard a lot about and then like
- 1:01:58Speaker 8: all the others were like some strange choices and hadn't
- 1:02:02Speaker 8: done a ton since then it was like maybe six
- 1:02:05Speaker 8: other movies so yeah it was kind of but yeah.
- 1:02:08Speaker 13: This was his debut right yeah.
- 1:02:10Speaker 10: That's like a tremendous return on investment yeah it was
- 1:02:13Speaker 10: like a three million dollar movie made like 50.
- 1:02:15Speaker 8: Million dollars like winning a lottery and that's why he
- 1:02:23Speaker 8: was broke from there on he forgot to work the
- 1:02:25Speaker 8: deal out so that he made a good cut of
- 1:02:27Speaker 8: it oh lord all right okay do we um good
- 1:02:35Speaker 8: at least want to round things out with some stuff
- 1:02:38Speaker 8: you're working on now I think you brought up the
- 1:02:42Speaker 8: Nosferatu last time, but I assume you're much further into
- 1:02:47Speaker 8: the project. I didn't know about this.
- 1:02:50Speaker 9: For those who haven't been following along the Doug Jones story,
- 1:02:55Speaker 9: we've been talking about Nosferatu for a couple of years now.
- 1:02:58Speaker 9: But it is finished filming and it is finished with
- 1:03:02Speaker 9: post-production now. And that was the big one, the post-production,
- 1:03:04Speaker 9: because our version of Nosferatu... was made by the same
- 1:03:10Speaker 9: director who did our version of The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari,
- 1:03:14Speaker 9: a remake that we did in 2005.
- 1:03:15Speaker 8: Which, of course, in each of those, the person you
- 1:03:18Speaker 8: think Doug's going to be, Doug is.
- 1:03:19Speaker 2: Is it? Right, yeah.
- 1:03:21Speaker 9: In Caligari, I was Cesare. And in Nosferatu, I am
- 1:03:25Speaker 9: Count Orlok, yes. And both movies are done by the
- 1:03:29Speaker 9: same director with the same technique of creating match shots
- 1:03:34Speaker 9: off the original silent films. and filming us in front
- 1:03:37Speaker 9: of a green screen element in every shot of the movie. Now,
- 1:03:41Speaker 9: we have tables, props, chairs, door frames, cabinets. We have
- 1:03:45Speaker 9: things that we have to use practically, but there is
- 1:03:47Speaker 9: a green screen element to every frame of the movie
- 1:03:50Speaker 9: that is filled in with footage or a plate from
- 1:03:53Speaker 9: the old original film, both in Caligari and Nosferatu. And
- 1:03:58Speaker 9: so that means that I got to play in the
- 1:03:59Speaker 9: environment that Max Schreck got to play the same character in,
- 1:04:02Speaker 9: you know, in 1922. So I'm very excited about that.
- 1:04:04Speaker 8: Your color forms in yourself into the background of these
- 1:04:07Speaker 8: silent films.
- 1:04:07Speaker 2: Right, right, right.
- 1:04:08Speaker 8: The way I'm thinking of it, I'm like, this is
- 1:04:09Speaker 8: kind of great because you do have this backdrop of
- 1:04:11Speaker 8: this thing that, again, movie geeks are kind of, well,
- 1:04:14Speaker 8: just that set and that framework.
- 1:04:16Speaker 9: Of course, of course.
- 1:04:17Speaker 8: You're in the middle.
- 1:04:17Speaker 9: And old silent movies, they did use... They held wide
- 1:04:20Speaker 9: shots for much longer than we do now. We punch
- 1:04:22Speaker 9: in for coverage now just to keep the story edited
- 1:04:26Speaker 9: and moving. But back then, silent films played like a play.
- 1:04:31Speaker 9: They would cut in for select close-ups and tons of
- 1:04:35Speaker 9: wide shots. So that's how Heek was able to collect
- 1:04:38Speaker 9: all the information as actors would move around the screen
- 1:04:41Speaker 9: in a wide shot. they would reveal the set that
- 1:04:44Speaker 9: was behind them. So he could collect that visual information
- 1:04:47Speaker 9: and remove the actors entirely and create a clean set
- 1:04:49Speaker 9: with no actors in it. Plop us into it after
- 1:04:51Speaker 9: our green screen was shot.
- 1:04:52Speaker 10: Right.
- 1:04:54Speaker 9: So, so I'm very excited to see this one put
- 1:04:56Speaker 9: together because, you know, Nosferatu is a classic. It is the,
- 1:05:00Speaker 9: the classic of, of vampire movies. It started it all off.
- 1:05:03Speaker 11: Yeah.
- 1:05:04Speaker 8: So ahead of its time, even just in filmmaking standards,
- 1:05:07Speaker 8: it was, it was amazing.
- 1:05:08Speaker 9: So, So I'm told that's done and it's been shopped
- 1:05:11Speaker 9: already at the marketplace of the Berlin Film Festival. And
- 1:05:15Speaker 9: distributors were clamoring for it. So I think we're going
- 1:05:19Speaker 9: to be seeing it this year somewhere. I don't know
- 1:05:21Speaker 9: in what format. I'm hoping for a theatrical run that
- 1:05:24Speaker 9: will at least be select cities in vintage theaters. That's
- 1:05:27Speaker 9: what I want. That would be awesome. If I can
- 1:05:30Speaker 9: host a Saturday night screening somewhere in Berlin. In Louisville.
- 1:05:33Speaker 8: At the Kentucky Theater. Lexington, Kentucky. Lexington has the much
- 1:05:37Speaker 8: better theater. We tore down all of ours in Louisville
- 1:05:39Speaker 8: because we're stupid. I would love that. Or they're selling
- 1:05:43Speaker 8: burritos in one, if you want. Shoes in another frame
- 1:05:47Speaker 8: of an old one.
- 1:05:47Speaker 9: Is that what happens to old theaters?
- 1:05:49Speaker 8: I don't like this modern version of tearing down our
- 1:05:51Speaker 8: old theaters. But, I was going to ask because it is,
- 1:05:54Speaker 8: I've seen some people have issues with doing so much
- 1:05:58Speaker 8: green screen work. Is it harder to Get into that
- 1:06:01Speaker 8: scene or get into what's going on with your character
- 1:06:04Speaker 8: when you're immersed in as much green screen.
- 1:06:06Speaker 9: I appreciate that. What I appreciated about it was that
- 1:06:10Speaker 9: we're using so much of the old film. It's an
- 1:06:12Speaker 9: homage to the old film. It's in reverence of the
- 1:06:14Speaker 9: original movie as opposed to trying to reimagine it and
- 1:06:17Speaker 9: rethink it and rewrite it. Ours is done with dialogue
- 1:06:20Speaker 9: and sound, so it's not a silent film as the
- 1:06:23Speaker 9: original was. I don't want to read, but right. But the,
- 1:06:26Speaker 9: but the dialogue is very, it fills in what you
- 1:06:29Speaker 9: were seeing. It actually does talk. Our dialogue and sound
- 1:06:33Speaker 9: does explain what, what the, what the silent movie was saying, uh, visually. Uh,
- 1:06:38Speaker 9: so it, it is not, again, not a re-imagination, but
- 1:06:40Speaker 9: actually it was perfect. It was absolutely perfect. So, so that, ah,
- 1:06:45Speaker 9: but I haven't seen it yet. So I hope, I hope,
- 1:06:47Speaker 9: I hope that it's been cut together and plays out
- 1:06:49Speaker 9: as I imagine it in my head.
- 1:06:50Speaker 7: Um, yeah.
- 1:06:52Speaker 8: Um, The other one I was interested in was because
- 1:06:55Speaker 8: I'm a fan of the movie, the fact that they're
- 1:06:58Speaker 8: doing a What We Do in the Shadows TV show
- 1:07:01Speaker 8: is an interesting take, especially recasting kind of. Two of
- 1:07:06Speaker 8: the guys are sort of involved but behind the scenes.
- 1:07:09Speaker 8: So we were bringing in new characters. So one of
- 1:07:12Speaker 8: those is you? Yes, yes, yes.
- 1:07:15Speaker 9: What We Do in the Shadows, the movie, was made
- 1:07:16Speaker 9: in New Zealand, of course. And it was kind of
- 1:07:19Speaker 9: a mockumentary style Big Brother house, you know, kind of
- 1:07:22Speaker 9: a thing with vampires.
- 1:07:24Speaker 8: I was pitching this to someone. Everyone at the table
- 1:07:27Speaker 8: was trying to describe. One of the guys last night
- 1:07:29Speaker 8: when we went to get food didn't know what it was.
- 1:07:31Speaker 8: And we're all like, okay, it's like, it's a mockument. Okay,
- 1:07:34Speaker 8: but then like, so trying to describe it. Everybody's so
- 1:07:37Speaker 8: excited because they love it so much. So yeah.
- 1:07:39Speaker 9: Right, right, right.
- 1:07:40Speaker 8: It's a pitch for people who don't get it sometimes.
- 1:07:42Speaker 9: Right, like the office meets Big Brother. Yeah, meets Nosferatu. Right,
- 1:07:47Speaker 9: meets Nosferatu.
- 1:07:49Speaker 7: Exactly.
- 1:07:50Speaker 9: And anyway, so the story, the TV series, it's not
- 1:07:56Speaker 9: the same characters exactly. It is a bunch of vampires
- 1:07:59Speaker 9: who have been sent to America to conquer the new world.
- 1:08:03Speaker 9: And they never make it out of Staten Island.
- 1:08:06Speaker 8: I'd go back and tell them we're a lost cause. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:08:10Speaker 8: Never mind.
- 1:08:10Speaker 9: And it premieres on the FX network starting the episode.
- 1:08:15Speaker 9: I'm in episodes one and five. And it will start
- 1:08:20Speaker 9: airing Wednesday, March 27th, I believe, if I've got my
- 1:08:24Speaker 9: calendar right.
- 1:08:24Speaker 8: Do you know what the run was of that initial
- 1:08:27Speaker 8: ones that they shot? Did they do a box of
- 1:08:28Speaker 8: like 12? I don't know how many.
- 1:08:30Speaker 9: I have no idea how many episodes this season is
- 1:08:32Speaker 9: going to be. So we'll find out. But they're running
- 1:08:35Speaker 9: ads for it now on FX Channel.
- 1:08:37Speaker 8: It'll be interesting to see how.
- 1:08:38Speaker 9: And it's drop dead funny. I'm not going to lie.
- 1:08:40Speaker 10: Yeah.
- 1:08:42Speaker 9: And especially episode five, I was really funny. I don't
- 1:08:45Speaker 9: want to boast or anything, but yeah.
- 1:08:48Speaker 8: Again, working with that team, especially the writers and director,
- 1:08:52Speaker 8: I mean, they're all like so talented i'm gonna be in.
- 1:08:54Speaker 9: A heavy makeup uh as you might have guessed so
- 1:08:58Speaker 9: so in episode one right off the bat you will
- 1:09:00Speaker 9: know who is me you'll know it's me the minute
- 1:09:02Speaker 9: i step out so yeah um.
- 1:09:05Speaker 8: One of these days you're going to play a short
- 1:09:06Speaker 8: heavyset guy. Throw you all off.
- 1:09:08Speaker 6: It's going to be the ultimate test.
- 1:09:10Speaker 8: I know, I know, I know. They cast you as
- 1:09:12Speaker 8: an Oompa Loompa.
- 1:09:14Speaker 9: It could be done.
- 1:09:15Speaker 7: Take that, D-Bro.
- 1:09:16Speaker 8: Right.
- 1:09:17Speaker 9: Take that. So anything else? And also on the FX
- 1:09:24Speaker 9: network I did an episode of Better Things, Pamela Adlin's show.
- 1:09:30Speaker 9: She writes, directs, produces all herself. It's her entire project.
- 1:09:35Speaker 9: I think she did it in conjunction with Louis C.K.,
- 1:09:39Speaker 9: I believe, if I'm not crazy. Is that the one?
- 1:09:40Speaker 8: Yes.
- 1:09:42Speaker 9: So she's been in cahoots with him as a comedian
- 1:09:45Speaker 9: for years. Very funny show. Very slice of life. She
- 1:09:50Speaker 9: plays a childhood actress who's now grown up and has
- 1:09:54Speaker 9: kids of her own but is still doing schlocky movies
- 1:09:56Speaker 9: here and there. I was in one of those schlocky
- 1:09:58Speaker 9: movies within the show. And I was like, you know,
- 1:10:02Speaker 9: sort of an ogre, like monster-y, but cheesy, cheesy, cheesy looking.
- 1:10:06Speaker 8: It was hilarious.
- 1:10:08Speaker 9: And when the director should have yelled cut, he wasn't
- 1:10:10Speaker 9: paying attention. And so I end up staying, you know,
- 1:10:14Speaker 9: standing up and going, you know, this really tense moment
- 1:10:16Speaker 9: where she and I are nose to nose. I'm about
- 1:10:18Speaker 9: to pounce on her. And that was when he was
- 1:10:20Speaker 9: supposed to yell cut, and he wasn't. So we're lingering
- 1:10:23Speaker 9: and lingering and lingering. And so finally I stand up
- 1:10:25Speaker 9: and say, is someone going to call cut or just
- 1:10:26Speaker 9: want to stand here with my tits out all day? Right?
- 1:10:31Speaker 9: So I was actually playing Doug Jones, but who goes
- 1:10:34Speaker 9: off on a bit of a tirade.
- 1:10:37Speaker 8: He's known to do that.
- 1:10:38Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:10:39Speaker 9: I was cussing about the heat and how they've been
- 1:10:41Speaker 9: treating us like animals. Oh, gosh. And she had to
- 1:10:45Speaker 9: calm me down, basically. So then I guess I have
- 1:10:51Speaker 9: a little cameo appearance two episodes later. So that's episode
- 1:10:55Speaker 9: two and four that I show up in, in Better Things,
- 1:10:59Speaker 9: this season, season three. There you go.
- 1:11:03Speaker 8: Okay.
- 1:11:04Speaker 9: And the news came out that we are picked up
- 1:11:08Speaker 9: for season three of Star Trek Discovery. So we'll be
- 1:11:10Speaker 9: going back into production of that sometime this summer.
- 1:11:13Speaker 8: It is interesting with all these new– options that even
- 1:11:16Speaker 8: something as big as cbs but yet streaming and then
- 1:11:21Speaker 8: FX is like funding their own show. So like there's
- 1:11:24Speaker 8: so many options now. You kind of never know what's
- 1:11:27Speaker 8: going to catch on.
- 1:11:28Speaker 9: And you cannot keep up. Television, there's too much. What
- 1:11:32Speaker 9: was it? I went to the AFI Awards last year
- 1:11:34Speaker 9: with the Pan's Labyrinth, or not Pan's Labyrinth, with the
- 1:11:36Speaker 9: Shape of Water team.
- 1:11:38Speaker 8: One of those.
- 1:11:38Speaker 9: One of those artistic wonder movies. But the AFI, they
- 1:11:44Speaker 9: were recognizing excellence in film and television. And when the
- 1:11:47Speaker 9: guy got up to introduce the TV categories... He said,
- 1:11:51Speaker 9: I wish I was on the feature film team this
- 1:11:53Speaker 9: year because there are 450 eligible shows in the TV category.
- 1:11:59Speaker 9: You can't keep up with all that. I don't know
- 1:12:02Speaker 9: how the Emmy.
- 1:12:03Speaker 8: I mean, that's what I was talking about on the show.
- 1:12:06Speaker 8: It's like, that's why I am glad we keep focusing
- 1:12:09Speaker 8: on movies because I can sit down for 90 minutes.
- 1:12:11Speaker 8: But when it's. 12 or 20 episodes. It's like I
- 1:12:14Speaker 8: can't invest that much time and get anything else done,
- 1:12:17Speaker 8: like make this crazy show.
- 1:12:19Speaker 9: That might be why there's a trend of shorter seasons now.
- 1:12:21Speaker 8: Yeah, the 12 block is a little easier to consume.
- 1:12:25Speaker 9: Yeah, the 10 to 13 kind of range is more
- 1:12:28Speaker 9: common now. because there's too much and we're losing attention spans.
- 1:12:35Speaker 8: Well, it's both because we're losing attention spans yet people
- 1:12:39Speaker 8: want to marathon 13 hours worth of footage and then
- 1:12:43Speaker 8: complain that the second season isn't out.
- 1:12:45Speaker 9: It's all or nothing. But you might lose them if
- 1:12:48Speaker 9: you had a 22-episode show.
- 1:12:51Speaker 8: They might lose interest halfway in.
- 1:12:52Speaker 9: But it seems more doable to binge a 13-episode show,
- 1:12:55Speaker 9: I think.
- 1:12:56Speaker 8: I don't know. It is weird how much the industry's
- 1:12:58Speaker 8: changed just in 15 years.
- 1:13:00Speaker 9: Well, and on Star Trek Discovery, too, I think that
- 1:13:02Speaker 9: the epicness, this is not like the old Star Trek,
- 1:13:05Speaker 9: as in it's more budgeted and more cinematic than any
- 1:13:09Speaker 9: TV series in the franchise. So our episodes cost around
- 1:13:14Speaker 9: the $ 10 million mark per episode. That's like movie budgets.
- 1:13:19Speaker 9: So to go a 22-episode season, and they take longer
- 1:13:22Speaker 9: to shoot each episode, too. We did nine months to
- 1:13:25Speaker 9: create our 14-episode season two. Nine months. So had we
- 1:13:30Speaker 9: gone 22 episodes, we would still be filming it now.
- 1:13:32Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying?
- 1:13:33Speaker 9: We would never be done. So I think it's just
- 1:13:37Speaker 9: a practicality thing, too. If you're going to go that
- 1:13:39Speaker 9: huge and that cinematic, you can't do that many episodes.
- 1:13:42Speaker 8: And bringing in big directors. I talked with Jonathan Frakes.
- 1:13:45Speaker 8: And we discussed the Doug, obviously.
- 1:13:48Speaker 9: Oh, did you really?
- 1:13:49Speaker 8: He had wonderful things to say about you, too.
- 1:13:51Speaker 9: That's very solid.
- 1:13:52Speaker 8: I didn't know that. That's very sweet.
- 1:13:53Speaker 11: Yeah.
- 1:13:55Speaker 8: Jonathan was pretty cool and has an interesting story himself.
- 1:13:58Speaker 8: We kind of got into his weird path that led
- 1:14:00Speaker 8: him to being the respected director.
- 1:14:02Speaker 9: There he is. Of course, he played number one on
- 1:14:04Speaker 9: The Next Generation, for those who don't know. He is
- 1:14:07Speaker 9: now directing so much. I met him. He directed a
- 1:14:10Speaker 9: couple episodes of Falling Skies when I was on the
- 1:14:12Speaker 9: TNT show. And so then when I got Star Trek
- 1:14:15Speaker 9: Discovery and he came in to direct, of course he
- 1:14:17Speaker 9: came in to direct a couple episodes last year and
- 1:14:19Speaker 9: this year. And his episodes are always... And he's one
- 1:14:26Speaker 9: of our favorites because he was an actor. He understands
- 1:14:29Speaker 9: us as actors. He also understands the reverence to the
- 1:14:32Speaker 9: lore and the canon. It's a shorthand for him.
- 1:14:33Speaker 8: Yeah, it's his life. Yes, he gets it.
- 1:14:35Speaker 9: He totally gets it.
- 1:14:36Speaker 8: He spends so much time on both sides of that set.
- 1:14:38Speaker 9: Right, right, right, right.
- 1:14:40Speaker 8: It's amazing.
- 1:14:40Speaker 9: So that's more of that coming. And as far as
- 1:14:44Speaker 9: feature films go, I recently won with Mira Sorvino and
- 1:14:48Speaker 9: Paul Sorvino came out. It was kind of straight to streaming,
- 1:14:52Speaker 9: straight to DVD.
- 1:14:53Speaker 8: Um, mimic too.
- 1:14:55Speaker 9: No, it's called beneath the leaves. Uh, I play a
- 1:14:58Speaker 9: serial killer.
- 1:14:59Speaker 8: Uh, no, uh, yes.
- 1:15:00Speaker 9: Who, um, who's done dastardly deeds and I break out
- 1:15:03Speaker 9: of prison. And so it's back on again. And, uh,
- 1:15:06Speaker 9: Mira Sorvino is the lead detective coming after me and
- 1:15:09Speaker 9: her dad, Paul Sorvino is, uh, is the, the police
- 1:15:13Speaker 9: chief and, and a whole bunch of young pretty people
- 1:15:16Speaker 9: in the cast as well. So, uh, uh, but yeah,
- 1:15:18Speaker 9: so I don't show up and throughout the entire thing. So, uh,
- 1:15:21Speaker 9: It's okay. It's okay.
- 1:15:24Speaker 8: It's okay.
- 1:15:26Speaker 9: I like Sorvino.
- 1:15:28Speaker 8: They both kind of made a weird comeback because she
- 1:15:30Speaker 8: kind of stepped away for a few years.
- 1:15:33Speaker 9: I think she was pushed away from what I understand.
- 1:15:36Speaker 9: She was part of the Weinstein debacle back in the
- 1:15:37Speaker 9: day to hear her talk about it. She was a
- 1:15:41Speaker 9: legitimate part of the Me Too movement for sure.
- 1:15:43Speaker 8: Definitely. But he's even come back, and I've seen him
- 1:15:46Speaker 8: in a lot more stuff in these last few years.
- 1:15:48Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
- 1:15:48Speaker 8: That's awesome.
- 1:15:49Speaker 9: Showing up in a cameo here and there is great.
- 1:15:51Speaker 9: And boy, what an iconic face that man has. He
- 1:15:53Speaker 9: just reeks of mafia. You know what I mean?
- 1:15:56Speaker 8: It's garlic.
- 1:15:57Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:15:59Speaker 8: Based on the Goodfellas scene.
- 1:16:01Speaker 9: Yes, right, right. He's a classic actor. Boy, when you talk,
- 1:16:05Speaker 9: he's very intense to talk to. I love him dearly.
- 1:16:08Speaker 9: I love them both dearly. Well, Mira Sorvino and I
- 1:16:11Speaker 9: have history, too. She did a season of Falling Skies
- 1:16:13Speaker 9: with us.
- 1:16:13Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 1:16:14Speaker 9: And I was also, the movie I met Guillermo del
- 1:16:17Speaker 9: Toro on, Mimic, she was the star of.
- 1:16:19Speaker 8: I said Mimic 2. Technically, there is a Mimic 2.
- 1:16:21Speaker 9: There is a Mimic 2, but nothing to do with it.
- 1:16:23Speaker 8: It's not great. Yeah.
- 1:16:25Speaker 9: Maybe same studio, but nothing else was the same.
- 1:16:27Speaker 8: The third one was actually, I don't know that you've
- 1:16:29Speaker 8: seen it.
- 1:16:30Speaker 9: It was a third Mimic?
- 1:16:31Speaker 8: Yeah, but I think that's the one because I talked
- 1:16:33Speaker 8: to the guy who directed it, and he was like,
- 1:16:35Speaker 8: he was offered all these weird sequels and he didn't
- 1:16:37Speaker 8: really want to do any of them. But the thing that,
- 1:16:39Speaker 8: that seemed interesting was I think the third one is
- 1:16:42Speaker 8: the one that they basically do rear window only with
- 1:16:46Speaker 8: mimic world. So it's someone from across the street watching
- 1:16:50Speaker 8: this weird mimic story go on and like, He was like, well,
- 1:16:53Speaker 8: I mean, that's got the most potential. I'll see what
- 1:16:55Speaker 8: I can do with it. But yeah, it's interesting. The
- 1:16:59Speaker 8: second one I don't remember being quite as cool an idea.
- 1:17:02Speaker 8: But straight to DVD sequels, you never know what you're
- 1:17:05Speaker 8: going to get.
- 1:17:06Speaker 9: Right, right, right, right, right. So there you go.
- 1:17:08Speaker 8: There you go.
- 1:17:09Speaker 9: So I think that pretty much sums up my life
- 1:17:12Speaker 9: at the moment.
- 1:17:12Speaker 8: At the moment.
- 1:17:13Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 1:17:13Speaker 8: I'm sure there'll be many more things. Yeah, there you go.
- 1:17:17Speaker 9: Yes or no. By the time I'm done with Star
- 1:17:20Speaker 9: Trek Discovery, I might hang up the rubber bits.
- 1:17:22Speaker 8: I don't know. I don't know. You're doing a lot
- 1:17:25Speaker 8: more with your face.
- 1:17:26Speaker 9: I love doing more things with my face. And I also,
- 1:17:28Speaker 9: you know, I love the Hallmark Channel.
- 1:17:29Speaker 8: Oh, yeah, I do. Yes, yes.
- 1:17:31Speaker 9: So I would be the happiest thing if I could
- 1:17:34Speaker 9: do nothing but Hallmark Christmas movies from now on.
- 1:17:37Speaker 11: And yet.
- 1:17:38Speaker 8: They could do that many to keep you in your life. Well,
- 1:17:41Speaker 8: they do.
- 1:17:42Speaker 9: They produce 100 of me a year.
- 1:17:43Speaker 2: They do.
- 1:17:44Speaker 8: It's crazy.
- 1:17:45Speaker 9: So imagine me in a Christmas sweater, right? With my
- 1:17:47Speaker 9: cup of cocoa giving sound advice.
- 1:17:49Speaker 8: To my granddaughter.
- 1:17:50Speaker 6: Every day.
- 1:17:51Speaker 8: I would love that role. Yes.
- 1:17:54Speaker 6: You heard it here, Hallmark Channel.
- 1:17:57Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Get on it. Start putting this giant
- 1:18:00Speaker 8: contract together now. Yeah. The rest of your life will
- 1:18:03Speaker 8: be indentured to the Hallmark Channel. I would love it.
- 1:18:06Speaker 9: Love it more than you know.
- 1:18:08Speaker 14: All right.
- 1:18:09Speaker 8: Well, unless there's anything else to throw out there, Adam.
- 1:18:12Speaker 9: I'm good.
- 1:18:13Speaker 8: I thank you for once again coming on and continuing
- 1:18:16Speaker 8: to be part of the family as you are.
- 1:18:19Speaker 9: How many does this make for us now? I don't
- 1:18:21Speaker 9: remember how many I've done of your show now.
- 1:18:24Speaker 8: One of them we went on so long it became
- 1:18:26Speaker 8: two episodes. There was one sit down that went so...
- 1:18:30Speaker 8: That was the one where we were rolling around on
- 1:18:31Speaker 8: the couch, if you remember.
- 1:18:33Speaker 9: Was that in Louisville?
- 1:18:35Speaker 8: Yeah, that was when you were shooting a Hallmark film.
- 1:18:37Speaker 8: I just finished my Hallmark movie, yes! The ultimate legacy. Yeah,
- 1:18:40Speaker 8: we did a whole one of just us rambling and
- 1:18:42Speaker 8: then a whole other movie discussion. So I think that's
- 1:18:46Speaker 8: got to be at least five.
- 1:18:48Speaker 13: Yeah, I've done four with you.
- 1:18:49Speaker 8: That was the only one you weren't at.
- 1:18:51Speaker 6: Yeah, that was the only one I was at.
- 1:18:52Speaker 13: I realized that three out of the four have charming
- 1:18:54Speaker 13: British people in them.
- 1:18:55Speaker 8: I was like, okay, I think I get that. Do
- 1:18:56Speaker 8: you see a theme? He's secretly British. That Indianapolis thing,
- 1:19:03Speaker 8: that's a scam.
- 1:19:03Speaker 9: No, but that is my heritage.
- 1:19:05Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:19:06Speaker 9: When I did that convention in Dublin, Ireland, I fit
- 1:19:08Speaker 9: in there.
- 1:19:09Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:19:09Speaker 9: And they're a huggy-touchy bunch, too.
- 1:19:11Speaker 8: I was actually very pleased. This is where it comes from.
- 1:19:12Speaker 8: They're all just drunk, though. So far today, they're just
- 1:19:17Speaker 8: hopped up on coffee today.
- 1:19:18Speaker 9: That's right, that's right, that's right.
- 1:19:19Speaker 8: Wait till later in the day.
- 1:19:21Speaker 2: Right.
- 1:19:22Speaker 8: Irish coffee.
- 1:19:22Speaker 9: When the dark beer starts flowing.
- 1:19:24Speaker 8: It is St. Patrick's Day. Okay. Green beer for everyone.
- 1:19:28Speaker 5: Everyone.
- 1:19:29Speaker 8: That's right.
- 1:19:30Speaker 2: All right.
- 1:19:30Speaker 8: I think that about does it. Okay. Otherwise, that about
- 1:19:34Speaker 8: does it. We will return next time, probably with Doug.
- 1:19:36Speaker 8: Same geek vibe, same geek feed. Thanks for listening.
- 1:19:40Speaker 6: Bye.
- 1:20:06Speaker 5: Someone new, he's waiting in the car outside.
- 1:20:53Speaker 8: It's all in the past now.
- 1:20:57Speaker 5: Money changes everything. They shake your hand and they smile.
- 1:21:15Speaker 10: And they bite.
- 1:21:24Speaker 5: I'll see you next time.
- 1:22:01Speaker 12: You know what you're doing.
- 1:23:18Speaker 5: We don't know what day It's.
- 1:23:24Speaker 8: All in the past.
- 1:24:28Speaker 6: I have an odd request. Well, A, I just want
- 1:24:32Speaker 6: a picture with you, but B, I got these googly
- 1:24:35Speaker 6: eyes that you can stick on your hand.
- 1:24:37Speaker 8: I was like, this can't be the first time someone's
- 1:24:39Speaker 8: asked him to do that.
- 1:24:42Speaker 6: I was like, Brian, will he think I'm weird? And
- 1:24:45Speaker 6: he was like, I think he'll love it.
- 1:24:46Speaker 8: I was like, I'm at a horror convention. I was like,
- 1:24:49Speaker 8: you threw it out and I'm like, I don't think.
- 1:24:52Speaker 9: That's the least weird request I've gotten.
- 1:24:53Speaker 8: I don't think he's going to tell you no. I...
- 1:24:57Speaker 8: And it's not the first time I brought a prop
- 1:24:59Speaker 8: to a photo shoot. Actually, she's down across the street now. Specifically,
- 1:25:05Speaker 8: I think the only time I brought a prop was
- 1:25:09Speaker 8: PJ Souls. I didn't bring a butcher knife. I didn't
- 1:25:13Speaker 8: even bring a phone. She said she's had a lot
- 1:25:14Speaker 8: of people that want to strangle her with a phone cord.
- 1:25:16Speaker 8: I brought a spatula because I wanted to pose with
- 1:25:20Speaker 8: the Aunt Jemima treatment action. If you know Stripes, there's some.
- 1:25:25Speaker 8: It's Bill Murray. He sits around the stove and Aunt
- 1:25:27Speaker 8: Jemima's there.
- 1:25:30Speaker 2: Uh-oh.
- 1:25:30Speaker 8: I saw stripes.
- 1:25:31Speaker 9: I don't remember this at all.
- 1:25:33Speaker 8: It's very brief, but I was the one person that
- 1:25:36Speaker 8: latched onto that and brought a spatula to our photo.
- 1:25:39Speaker 8: So I'm equally as weird.
- 1:25:41Speaker 9: That sounds semi-kinky.
- 1:25:43Speaker 8: I mean, that's kind of what I was going for.
- 1:25:46Speaker 8: And she was into it.
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