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- 0:00SPEAKER_01: Hi, thank you for joining us today.
- 0:01SPEAKER_01: I'm Dr.
- 0:02SPEAKER_01: Cena McCullough, and today I'm so excited because we're discussing one of my favorite topics, which is how to connect with your body.
- 0:11SPEAKER_01: Now, this topic is so important for all aspects of your life, including disease prevention and disease reversal.
- 0:19SPEAKER_01: But body connection is vastly overlooked and even discouraged in our culture.
- 0:25SPEAKER_01: Now, Joel and I wrote about body connection in our book, Beyond Labels, because we feel that connecting with your intuition is essential for determining which foods are best for your body, determining how to prevent disease, telling you how to heal from disease, and actually getting a feeling of finally feeling worthy, finally feeling good enough.
- 0:44SPEAKER_01: So you can imagine how excited I am for today's guest because she is an expert in helping people connect with their bodies.
- 0:53SPEAKER_01: Her name is Lauren Girtson.
- 0:56SPEAKER_01: She is the author of the new book titled The Invisible Corset: Break Free from Beauty Culture and Embrace Your Radiant Self.
- 1:06SPEAKER_01: Now, as a body connection coach, Lauren helps women heal their relationship with food and body image.
- 1:13SPEAKER_01: Her holistic health website, which is called EmpoweredSustenance.com, has supported over 40 million readers.
- 1:22SPEAKER_01: Lauren, welcome to the show.
- 1:24SPEAKER_01: Thank you, Cena.
- 1:25SPEAKER_01: It's so good to be here.
- 1:26SPEAKER_01: Thanks.
- 1:27SPEAKER_01: I'm so excited.
- 1:27SPEAKER_01: I don't even know where to start.
- 1:29SPEAKER_01: Like I read your book.
- 1:30SPEAKER_01: It's fascinating.
- 1:31SPEAKER_01: It evokes all kinds of emotions and thought.
- 1:35SPEAKER_01: Um, it's very thought-provoking.
- 1:37SPEAKER_01: So um I apologize if I bounce around here, but I'm just so excited to share this information with our viewers and our listeners.
- 1:45SPEAKER_01: So I'm gonna jump right in.
- 1:47SPEAKER_01: In this book, you divide it into two parts.
- 1:50SPEAKER_01: The first part is you're describing what you call these invisible corset strings, and it's based on five beliefs.
- 1:58SPEAKER_01: In the second part of the book, you're talking about how to cut those strings, which in essence is how to um start listening to and communicating with your body, how to follow your intuition.
- 2:09SPEAKER_01: So I want to start with discussing the invisible corset and these strings.
- 2:15SPEAKER_01: In your book, you said I wrote this book to help women of all ages to tune into our body's truth so we can break the seams of the corset sewn together with fragile lies, which I love that.
- 2:30SPEAKER_01: That gives me goosebumps.
- 2:31SPEAKER_01: So, what is this corset and what are these fragile lies that are keeping us trapped and oppressed?
- 2:38SPEAKER_00: Great place to start.
- 2:40SPEAKER_00: So the invisible corset is a set of culturally inherited beliefs, and it makes us fear and dominate and disconnect from our bodies so that we become ill, right?
- 2:51SPEAKER_00: In mind and body and soul.
- 2:53SPEAKER_00: And these are themes that you have discussed before.
- 2:56SPEAKER_00: And the problem is because we can't see these beliefs, they are literally the water that we swim in.
- 3:03SPEAKER_00: A lot of women don't even realize they're wearing the invisible corset.
- 3:06SPEAKER_00: It's that much harder to get free.
- 3:09SPEAKER_00: Like when we were wearing restrictive physical corsets, we could feel it.
- 3:13SPEAKER_00: It felt good to take them off at the end of the day, much better than it feels to take off a bra at the end of the day.
- 3:19SPEAKER_00: So uh the thing here is we have to recognize our feelings of discomfort.
- 3:25SPEAKER_00: We've been acclimated to them.
- 3:26SPEAKER_00: We've been acclimated to the sensation of fearing and hating and distrusting our bodies.
- 3:30SPEAKER_00: We've been acclimated to the sensation of um truly not being comfortable and at ease and at peace in our bodies.
- 3:38SPEAKER_00: And then when we can recognize these beliefs, see how they're cropping up in our life, that's when we can start to do the work of deprogramming these mindsets, right?
- 3:49SPEAKER_00: Because it really is deep subconscious rewiring work that we're doing here.
- 3:54SPEAKER_00: Oh, get free.
- 3:56SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes.
- 3:56SPEAKER_01: And I've broken free from a lot of these um corset strings, but I've even going through your book, I thought, oh, wait a minute, here's here's another little piece of thread that I wasn't quite aware of, you know.
- 4:09SPEAKER_01: So it's very enlightening.
- 4:10SPEAKER_01: Can you give us some examples of, you know, this mindset, this perception, this, you know, uh how you call this oppression that we're under?
- 4:19SPEAKER_01: Like give us some examples of what it means to be wearing this corset.
- 4:25SPEAKER_00: So in the book, I go into the five strings, and just as a quick overview, they are fear, domination, disconnection, coercion, uh, mechanization, and then coercion.
- 4:39SPEAKER_00: So, you know, the the biggest one and the one that I find lands the fastest and easiest with women is fear.
- 4:48SPEAKER_00: So we are taught from so many aspects of our society to fear the natural manifestation and the natural variation of our bodies.
- 4:58SPEAKER_00: So, I mean, we're taught to fear our aging process.
- 5:01SPEAKER_00: We're uh in the book, I talk about how I bought an eye cream when I was 16 with my babysitting money.
- 5:07SPEAKER_00: I dropped 80 bucks of my babysitting money on an eye cream because I was so terrified of my body ever showing the signs of my age.
- 5:15SPEAKER_00: And when we're afraid of the, you know, our bodies showing our truth, it means that we are afraid of who we truly are.
- 5:22SPEAKER_00: Like that really is a soul sickness right there.
- 5:25SPEAKER_00: We're afraid of our body weight and size.
- 5:30SPEAKER_00: I work a lot with women who have a history of disordered eating and yo-yo dieting because we come from this mindset that we need to control our bodies to fit certain clothing sizes or to look a certain way, or that we're not healthy if we have a larger body.
- 5:47SPEAKER_00: Um, and so that creates this deeply entrenched fear of just eating normally and listening to our bodies' intuitive hunger and fullness signals.
- 5:58SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think that also lends to like the diet industry, right?
- 6:02SPEAKER_01: And how, I mean, that's one of the most profitable industries, right?
- 6:07SPEAKER_01: Taking diet pills and what's the latest diet.
- 6:10SPEAKER_01: And, you know, you've got all these kinds of the in the end, these are all man-made diets, right?
- 6:17SPEAKER_01: Somebody's putting down this list of foods to eat and list of foods you can't eat, and when to eat them, and how to eat them.
- 6:22SPEAKER_01: And um, you know, there's so many of them, you know, like keto, paleo, whole 30, I mean, you name them.
- 6:29SPEAKER_01: There's all these diets that um that we are, in other words, when you follow one of those diets, you are in essence um outsourcing your power to whoever is that quote unquote expert that designed that diet instead of actually tapping into your own intuition, right?
- 6:50SPEAKER_01: Um, so I think, and that's what I, one of the themes that I saw throughout your book, it's this continual in different areas of our lives, we keep outsourcing our power to these individuals or these groups that are in our culture that have been deemed to be the experts, right?
- 7:05SPEAKER_01: And when you do that, as you describe in the book, then what you're doing is you're saying, I am no longer an expert over my own body.
- 7:15SPEAKER_01: And that's that starts the right thing there, sever you from being able to connect to your intuition, right?
- 7:22SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and that's why I'm I am so uh passionate about this book coming out at this point in the world.
- 7:29SPEAKER_00: It was interesting.
- 7:30SPEAKER_00: I really expected the book to be out like a year earlier, and I did have the sense that it was divine timing to come out now.
- 7:39SPEAKER_00: Because what I do in this book is I actually explain how to see cult dynamics, how to see brainwashing, how to see propaganda, because that is so rife in the beauty industry and in the diet industry, and has been basically the lineage of how women have learned to relate to our bodies.
- 7:57SPEAKER_00: But my prayer and my hope is that when women can recognize that brainwashing and cult thinking with our inner relationship, we can start to see it not only how we're relating to the beauty industry, but maybe how we're relating to the pharmaceutical industry, maybe how we're relating to social media echo chambers or um certain politicians or other forms of authority in our world.
- 8:24SPEAKER_00: That is really where the healing is at.
- 8:28SPEAKER_00: Uh, I truly believe that the human body is the most effective and attuned truth sensing device available to us.
- 8:36SPEAKER_00: More so than a polygraph machine, more so than anything that technology will ever create.
- 8:42SPEAKER_00: And that is why we've been systematically, and I mean systematically, divorced from our bodies so that we lose touch with that truth sensing ability that is our birthright.
- 8:55SPEAKER_01: Okay, and that's fascinating.
- 8:56SPEAKER_01: So you said it so systematically, and in the book you describe beauty culture as a as a cult.
- 9:02SPEAKER_01: So um, can you elaborate on that?
- 9:05SPEAKER_01: What do you mean that we have been systematically um removed from being able to tap into our intuition?
- 9:14SPEAKER_01: Is it that sounds like it's intentional?
- 9:16SPEAKER_00: Right, right.
- 9:18SPEAKER_00: So, something I explained in the book is that beauty culture is a psychological abuser.
- 9:24SPEAKER_00: And just like an individual can be a psychological abuser, um, in a relationship, a parent, a partner, an industry can be as well.
- 9:32SPEAKER_00: So the goal of a psychological abuser is not to love and support you and give you confidence.
- 9:39SPEAKER_00: They say that, right?
- 9:41SPEAKER_00: All of these industries and the people who are abusers, they say that is their intention.
- 9:46SPEAKER_00: But their um actual goal is to exploit you uh financially, sexually, psychically, um, energetically, uh, sometimes a combination of all of those.
- 10:01SPEAKER_00: Definitely when it comes to the beauty industry, I think it is the intention to exploit women of all of their resources in that way, specifically financially.
- 10:12SPEAKER_00: Uh, women, on average, in the United States, spend over$200,000 in our lifetime on beauty expenses.
- 10:19SPEAKER_00: Like, that's the cost of an Ivy League education.
- 10:22SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 10:23SPEAKER_00: Right.
- 10:23SPEAKER_00: And we're spending that money towards beauty and towards body modification, not because it's our best investment, we believe it's our best investment, but because uh we we are so mentally coerced and brainwashed, we don't understand that if we spent that money on, say, like relationship coaches, business coaches, life coaches, you know, better uh better nutrition, um, naturopathic doctors and health support, if we invested that money in other areas of our lives, we would see a tremendous return on investment towards our happiness.
- 10:59SPEAKER_00: Um that's the key to understand is the beauty industry is a psychological abuser.
- 11:06SPEAKER_00: They promise you happiness and confidence, but that's not their real intention.
- 11:10SPEAKER_00: We can see their real intention if we look at the consequences, which is happening, which is sky high rates of eating disorders, um, body disconnection, body hatred at an all-time high, and then invisible corset being passed down from generation to generation.
- 11:24SPEAKER_00: So because you bring this up in the book too.
- 11:26SPEAKER_01: Like, this is not a modern um like tactic, right?
- 11:31SPEAKER_01: This goes back like years and years.
- 11:34SPEAKER_01: This goes back.
- 11:35SPEAKER_01: Can you give us a just a little snippet of what you talked about in the book about how far this action this beauty oppression actually goes back in time?
- 11:44SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
- 11:45SPEAKER_00: Well, we can see it across all cultures.
- 11:48SPEAKER_00: Uh and one thing I talk about in the book is how we shifted um kind of pre-Neolithic, uh pre-Paleolithic time period.
- 11:58SPEAKER_00: We had a much more goddess-worshiping society across the globe, uh, which correlated to a few qualities uh in communities, more connection with our bodies, um, more reverence for the female body, uh, especially because there were female deities.
- 12:20SPEAKER_00: Um, the earliest creation myths were women creating the world.
- 12:26SPEAKER_00: Um, God was originally a woman, and there was much more of a sense of partnership with nature.
- 12:32SPEAKER_00: And in the book, I talk about this kind of strange and cross-cultural shift into more patriarchal religions, which coincided with more of a dominating, uh even violent hierarchical societies, uh, and also more of a dominating relationship with the female body, right?
- 12:57SPEAKER_00: So women started to become oppressed for our biology, for our ability to uh be sex slaves, right, and our ability to have kids.
- 13:07SPEAKER_00: Um, so the female body became more of an object, and that was an interesting kind of cross-cultural paradigm shift that happened.
- 13:19SPEAKER_00: Uh, and along with that, we can see how the female body was manipulated into different uh forms and manipulated by different random beauty standards that inherently were destructive to our bodies, like Chinese foot binding, right?
- 13:38SPEAKER_00: So this actually physically crippled women, they couldn't properly walk, but mothers broke and bound their daughters' feet because they believed it would make their daughters desirable.
- 13:49SPEAKER_00: Like their version of sexy was broken bloodied feet, um, that it would guarantee, you know, upper class marriages.
- 13:58SPEAKER_00: And we can look at the um some tribes in Myanmar, and they would put those big neck rings, um, those gold coils on the neck.
- 14:08SPEAKER_00: So women's necks became so elongated that that was a sign of beauty, but it was also physically handicapping.
- 14:15SPEAKER_00: If you took those rings off, their necks would snap back.
- 14:18SPEAKER_00: Um, and even in Western culture, we've had similarly barbaric practices, we just don't recognize them because they become normalized to us.
- 14:27SPEAKER_00: Um, like, you know, corsetry uh was extremely immobilizing, uncomfortable.
- 14:34SPEAKER_00: It's so funny.
- 14:35SPEAKER_00: I found that some historical fashion experts say that corsets weren't the barbaric torture devices that they used to be, that women actually chose to wear them and that they were comfortable back braces.
- 14:48SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, did a male historian write that?
- 14:50SPEAKER_00: Like, hello?
- 14:52SPEAKER_00: Or, you know, nowadays women say, Oh, I'm choosing to get cosmetic surgery because it makes me feel good.
- 14:57SPEAKER_00: Well, guess what?
- 14:58SPEAKER_00: Women said the same thing of their corsets way back in the olden days.
- 15:01SPEAKER_00: It didn't make them feel good, it made them meet an arbitrary beauty standard that was intended to restrict our freedom and our movement.
- 15:09SPEAKER_00: Um, and same with the the very curve-free body shapes that went out in and out of fashion during the 1900s, like in the 1920s, 1930s, it was this very willowy flapper-like aesthetic.
- 15:24SPEAKER_00: This came back in the 1990s when we had the quote heroin chic supermodels.
- 15:29SPEAKER_00: Basically, that meant diet away your period.
- 15:32SPEAKER_00: Uh, so literally an invisible corset shaping your body but doing it through internal means.
- 15:38SPEAKER_00: Uh, now we have the extreme hourglass shape of the Victorian age coming back in style.
- 15:45SPEAKER_00: We can see this with the Kardashians, for example, right?
- 15:48SPEAKER_00: But instead of being achieved through bustles and padding and whalebone corsetry, it's done through obsessive dieting, you know, hours spent with a personal trainer shaping your body every day.
- 16:01SPEAKER_00: Like, again, let's look at where we can better invest our energy.
- 16:05SPEAKER_00: Um uh and now waist trainers, they're called waist trainers, are in style.
- 16:12SPEAKER_00: These are literally modern corsets.
- 16:14SPEAKER_00: They're like spanks without legs, basically.
- 16:19SPEAKER_00: It's insane that these caricatures of women's bodies cycle in and out of fashion, just like clothing, and these body shapes are almost entirely divorced from the natural manifestation of a woman's body.
- 16:35SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 16:36SPEAKER_01: So if I'm listening to this, I'm probably thinking, or I could be thinking, yeah, but these are all choices, right?
- 16:42SPEAKER_01: Like you're choosing to buy the diet pills, you're choosing to get the Botox injections, you're choosing to get the breast implants, right?
- 16:50SPEAKER_01: You're choosing to buy that gym membership and go to the gym two hours a day, or you know, like those are the people who don't have kids, right?
- 16:58SPEAKER_01: Um but but you know, that's the thing.
- 17:01SPEAKER_01: So so so so somebody could say, yes, but we're all responsible for our own choices, and not everybody chooses these things, so those people are choosing it.
- 17:11SPEAKER_01: What would you say?
- 17:12SPEAKER_00: I'm so glad you brought that up.
- 17:14SPEAKER_00: Because there is so much confusion.
- 17:16SPEAKER_00: And, you know, I get every time we talk about this on social media, I will have a woman commenting and saying, Well, I'm choosing to dye my gray hair.
- 17:25SPEAKER_00: I am choosing to get Botox because it makes me feel good and it makes me feel confident.
- 17:30SPEAKER_00: And so this is the rhetoric that the beauty industry itself has perpetuated, right?
- 17:34SPEAKER_00: Because if something is your choice as a woman and it makes you feel good, then it's empowering.
- 17:39SPEAKER_00: And if it's empowering, then it's feminist.
- 17:42SPEAKER_00: Therefore, breast implants equal feminist.
- 17:45SPEAKER_00: Yay! Except that rationale is complete propaganda and it falls apart at the seams.
- 17:52SPEAKER_00: What I do in the book is I help women understand when you are acting from a false self.
- 18:00SPEAKER_00: A false self is actually it's a spiritual term, but it's also a term that has been used looking at cult brainwashing and cult dynamics.
- 18:07SPEAKER_00: So a false self is kind of the programmed thoughts and beliefs inside a cult-like system of thinking.
- 18:16SPEAKER_00: So when you're acting from your false self, you can think that this is your choice, you can think that this is your opinion.
- 18:22SPEAKER_00: When in reality, it has been instilled into your mind and your subconscious through very targeted, regimented propaganda techniques, so that you act in the best interest of your abuser rather than your soul.
- 18:36SPEAKER_00: This is what women are doing in beauty culture.
- 18:39SPEAKER_00: We are acting in the best interest of our abuser, and we're saying that it's our choice because we aren't aware of our brainwashing.
- 18:46SPEAKER_00: And so I look at my own choices in my past.
- 18:51SPEAKER_00: You know, I struggled with severe anorexia when I was 12.
- 18:55SPEAKER_00: When I was in college, I woke up half an hour before my college roommate because I was so ashamed for anybody to see me without makeup.
- 19:01SPEAKER_00: Um, I spent like 40 minutes a day styling my hair.
- 19:04SPEAKER_00: It was long and unruly.
- 19:06SPEAKER_00: And I and again, I said all of those things were my choices.
- 19:10SPEAKER_00: I said it was my choice to spend my babysitting money when I was 16 on an anti-aging eye cream.
- 19:16SPEAKER_00: So when I did the work to deprogram these beliefs, I could get in touch with my true self.
- 19:23SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 19:23SPEAKER_00: This is the part of the human soul and psyche that cannot be touched by brainwashing.
- 19:30SPEAKER_00: And from there, when we are in touch with that part of ourselves, that deepest intuition, um, which I believe is connected to God, I believe that we can hear God's the divine instructions for our life through that connection.
- 19:44SPEAKER_00: Um and when we are connected there, we aren't making choices that are self-destructive.
- 19:51SPEAKER_00: We're making choices that are self-expressive.
- 19:55SPEAKER_00: Does that make sense?
- 19:57SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 19:57SPEAKER_01: And so, and to me, that's also one way of like I listen to my intuition like all every day.
- 20:04SPEAKER_01: You know, I'm constantly tapping into my intuition.
- 20:06SPEAKER_01: I didn't always do that, right?
- 20:09SPEAKER_01: Um, I I remember having, I remember feeling my intuition and knowing what was right, what the right path was for me, even as a child, but I do remember silencing it.
- 20:21SPEAKER_01: I, you know, I remember people, people would say, oh no, that can't be right, or you know, she's just a child, she doesn't know.
- 20:29SPEAKER_01: Um, and then I watched as my parents would outsource their power to the experts, and so I followed suit.
- 20:36SPEAKER_01: And I would do things where, you know, inside of me, like my instinct, my that true self would be screaming like, no, no, no, don't do that, you know?
- 20:47SPEAKER_01: And so you I and to me, this is the way I I think of it.
- 20:50SPEAKER_01: It's that when you make a choice and you know you didn't make it right because you have reservation about it, you have anxiety about it, right?
- 20:58SPEAKER_01: You can feel that something is not right or that you, you know, you've made the wrong choice, or you know, you're going down the wrong path.
- 21:04SPEAKER_01: And to me, that's a good indicator that that's your instincts kicking in there and trying to help you, right?
- 21:12SPEAKER_01: Um, so when I go through my day and I feel anxious about something or I feel nervous, then I do I take a step back and kind of go inside and I'm saying, okay, like this is where we are right now.
- 21:24SPEAKER_01: What talk to me?
- 21:25SPEAKER_01: What do you need?
- 21:26SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 21:26SPEAKER_01: Like actually have a conversation with my body.
- 21:29SPEAKER_01: Um, and so I think that we are more disconnected with our bodies than most of us actually realize.
- 21:37SPEAKER_01: Um, so what you're saying really resonates with me because um I have felt this kind of tug and pull relationship my entire life.
- 21:47SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, even I feel it now, but now I understand it better.
- 21:53SPEAKER_01: Right now I know the difference between this is my intuition and this is me, the brainwashed side of me wanting.
- 22:00SPEAKER_01: To do this other thing, going to go down this other path because I want to fit in with society.
- 22:06SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 22:06SPEAKER_01: And so at least now I can feel the difference.
- 22:09SPEAKER_01: I can sense it, you know, I like you literally can feel the emotional difference in your body when you're deciding between two choices.
- 22:17SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, you can feel if it's your intuition, you can feel if it's because of the brainwashing.
- 22:22SPEAKER_01: And I would say that um in one area that this was the hardest for me, but interestingly, the easiest at the same time it was food.
- 22:32SPEAKER_01: It was with food choices.
- 22:33SPEAKER_01: And um, we're gonna bring Lauren back in another episode because she also defeated an autoimmune condition.
- 22:40SPEAKER_01: And we're gonna learn how she did that.
- 22:42SPEAKER_01: And one, but I'll give away a little bit of that conversation.
- 22:45SPEAKER_01: One way is by tapping into this intuition.
- 22:48SPEAKER_01: I did the same thing, right?
- 22:50SPEAKER_01: That when I got really sick was when I stopped outsourcing my power to these culturally deemed experts.
- 22:59SPEAKER_01: And I started to really listen and then really follow what my instincts were telling me.
- 23:05SPEAKER_01: That's when I healed from the from the disease that I had.
- 23:10SPEAKER_01: Um, and you share a similar story.
- 23:12SPEAKER_01: So, all of that to say there's so much power in following your intuition, being able to tap into it and then follow it.
- 23:20SPEAKER_01: You have so much power within yourself.
- 23:23SPEAKER_01: And yet, like you're saying, we're outsourcing it in all these different industries, like beauty, the beauty industry, pharmaceutical, medical industry, the educational industry.
- 23:33SPEAKER_01: I mean, since when is it that parents aren't equipped to teach their own children, right?
- 23:38SPEAKER_01: That they need these certified teachers to teach their children, right?
- 23:41SPEAKER_01: So we can apply this to any of these industries.
- 23:44SPEAKER_01: And once you, once you open your eyes to one of them, like how you have um brilliantly laid out in this book, the eye opening to this cultural of this beauty culture.
- 23:55SPEAKER_01: Once you open your eyes to one of those industries, it's to me, it was like this domino effect.
- 24:02SPEAKER_01: It just opened my eyes to all of them, right?
- 24:05SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
- 24:05SPEAKER_00: And it really starts a spiritual peeling process.
- 24:09SPEAKER_00: Like this is the work of spiritual transformation.
- 24:12SPEAKER_00: This is a soul journey.
- 24:13SPEAKER_00: And I really love that you said you kind of explained the difference between how you feel your intuition versus when you're second guessing yourself when you have anxiety, you know that maybe you haven't.
- 24:27SPEAKER_00: What I found is that a lot of people don't even know what their intuition feels like because they haven't been allowed to make intuitive choices since they were like, you know, three, four, or five.
- 24:39SPEAKER_00: And especially for those of us like me coming from I came from a very perfectionistic background.
- 24:44SPEAKER_00: So I was a very overachiever, perfectionistic type.
- 24:48SPEAKER_00: And so accomplishment to me meant how well can I override my intuition in order to fit inside a little box.
- 24:58SPEAKER_01: Yes, you just gave me goosebumps.
- 25:00SPEAKER_01: Yes.
- 25:00SPEAKER_01: That's me.
- 25:01SPEAKER_01: That's exactly right.
- 25:03SPEAKER_01: Yeah, exactly.
- 25:04SPEAKER_01: I have to get the straight A's, right?
- 25:07SPEAKER_01: I have to be the head cheerleader, I have to fit into that cheerleading outfit, right?
- 25:11SPEAKER_01: I I have to be the president of the class.
- 25:14SPEAKER_01: Like now I gotta be an athlete too.
- 25:16SPEAKER_01: I gotta check that box and look that certain way as the athlete, right?
- 25:20SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
- 25:20SPEAKER_00: And it's interesting because women, I think, especially who have fit the box and then live their life and get to a certain place in their life, the fallout can be greater.
- 25:36SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 25:37SPEAKER_00: The more you try to fit in and the longer you have, because you do have the power and the strength uh to create a life that looks perfect to the world, but you're not sitting right in that life.
- 25:50SPEAKER_00: And so what's gonna happen is whether you like it or not, your body is gonna eject you from that life.
- 25:55SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 25:56SPEAKER_00: The fallout can be big, but what I would like to express, and I see this with my clients because I draw a lot of these very powerful female clients to me and my work, is that um, I'm yeah, I'm struggling to put this into words, but because you have so much inner strength, because you have so much energetic power, like you were able to override your intuition.
- 26:22SPEAKER_00: That takes a lot of power.
- 26:24SPEAKER_00: You've turned that power against yourself.
- 26:26SPEAKER_00: Imagine what happens when you turn that power outside of yourself.
- 26:30SPEAKER_00: Imagine what you can change in the world, imagine the good you can do.
- 26:33SPEAKER_00: That that is the force that you have.
- 26:36SPEAKER_00: You have to have a lot of force to hold back you as a very powerful being.
- 26:41SPEAKER_00: Um, and so it really is worth it if you give yourself the chance to uh allow that transformation to work its effect on the world at large instead of your soul.
- 26:52SPEAKER_00: And it's a really beautiful thing.
- 26:54SPEAKER_00: It's it can be a big process, but um, it's so interesting.
- 26:58SPEAKER_00: I just felt very compelled to say that for maybe one or two people who aren't specifically listening to this show.
- 27:04SPEAKER_00: There you go.
- 27:04SPEAKER_01: I love that.
- 27:05SPEAKER_01: I love that that resonates with me deeply because you know, I had somebody just a couple years ago, very close to me, say you need to step into your power.
- 27:16SPEAKER_01: And I was like, Well, what do you mean?
- 27:17SPEAKER_01: Like, I am like I'm using my voice to, you know, to share what I've learned and you know, which is what I promised God I would do.
- 27:25SPEAKER_01: I'm writing books, I'm blogging, you know.
- 27:27SPEAKER_01: What more do you want me to do?
- 27:29SPEAKER_01: And this individual said to me, No, no, you step in your power and then you get scared, and then you step out of your power and you'll stay there, right?
- 27:39SPEAKER_01: Until I feel like, okay, now I need to go and fulfill my promise to God again.
- 27:44SPEAKER_01: I need to step back into my power.
- 27:46SPEAKER_01: Like I wasn't consciously saying that, but that's actually what I was doing subconsciously.
- 27:50SPEAKER_01: And it goes back to how we started this conversation with the fear.
- 27:54SPEAKER_01: It's the fear of like my voice finally being heard, you know, and what are they gonna say?
- 28:00SPEAKER_01: And I think that's a that's one thing that you have to grapple with, right, when you're trying to express your find your true self and express that.
- 28:08SPEAKER_01: You have to be okay with the criticism, right?
- 28:12SPEAKER_01: And realize that that's not, yeah, that that that's that's fear of them.
- 28:16SPEAKER_01: Like that's what I do now is criticism.
- 28:19SPEAKER_01: Um we criticize that which we are afraid of, that which we don't know.
- 28:23SPEAKER_00: And you know, I I love that you brought up this point of what does it mean to step into your power?
- 28:28SPEAKER_00: Because I find that can be a very airy, fairy fluffy term that's thrown around in empowerment circles.
- 28:34SPEAKER_00: And for me, it means self-trust.
- 28:36SPEAKER_00: Are you willing to trust your perceptions and your interpretation of reality more so than the experts, um, more so than your educational system or your religion or your government or your family structure has told you is reality.
- 28:52SPEAKER_00: Uh, and when women do that in their life, oh my gosh, the transformation is incredible.
- 28:58SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
- 28:59SPEAKER_01: I mean, okay, there's so many things I want to talk to you about.
- 29:01SPEAKER_01: I wish we had two hours, but um, I want to get on to the second part of the book to help people connect with themselves.
- 29:09SPEAKER_01: Um, and I want to read this quote from your book because I read it and and I thought they gave me goosebumps.
- 29:16SPEAKER_01: I thought, who doesn't want this, right?
- 29:19SPEAKER_01: So this is what you said in the book.
- 29:22SPEAKER_01: When you trust your body, you jump fearlessly into this beautiful world.
- 29:26SPEAKER_01: You know you are everything you need to be to do what your soul came here to do.
- 29:32SPEAKER_01: You navigate your life confidently and peacefully, even in the midst of crisis, because the compass of your heart guides your every step.
- 29:41SPEAKER_01: You feel more deeply loved than ever before, because now you know the love your body has for you and you love her back.
- 29:51SPEAKER_01: Oh, it gives me goosebumps.
- 29:53SPEAKER_01: This is such a beautiful description of what it means to really be in harmony with your true self.
- 30:01SPEAKER_01: I love that description.
- 30:03SPEAKER_01: That that could be like a litmus test for people, whether or not you know that you are in harmony with your true self, if that you are um in connection with your intuition, or if you're not, or if you know if you've gone back into whatever the brainwashing cult state.
- 30:18SPEAKER_01: Um, so what I'd love for you to do is um walk us through one of your exercises.
- 30:24SPEAKER_01: Lauren, in this throughout the whole book, but particularly in the second half of the book, she provides so many mindset-changing exercises and journaling exercises to help you learn how to, you know, detach those strings and connect with your intuition, with your inner wisdom.
- 30:42SPEAKER_01: So Lauren's agreed to walk us through one of the exercises.
- 30:46SPEAKER_01: And uh I'm gonna so if you want, go ahead and grab some paper and a pen or a pencil.
- 30:52SPEAKER_01: I don't know what the exercise is that we're doing exactly.
- 30:55SPEAKER_01: I just know I need a pen and a paper.
- 30:57SPEAKER_01: Um, and I'm gonna go ahead and do the exercise along with all of our members in the audience.
- 31:02SPEAKER_01: So take it away, Lauren.
- 31:04SPEAKER_00: Love it.
- 31:04SPEAKER_00: Okay, so this one is called channeling your body's voice.
- 31:07SPEAKER_00: Okay, and it's based on a process called speed writing.
- 31:11SPEAKER_00: This is a way that you can actually tap into your subconscious mind and write faster than your conscious mind.
- 31:19SPEAKER_00: You can get really beautiful nuggets of your intuition out on the paper.
- 31:24SPEAKER_00: But the key here is you have to keep your pen moving.
- 31:27SPEAKER_00: This is a really hard practice for those of us perfectionists.
- 31:30SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 31:31SPEAKER_00: Right?
- 31:31SPEAKER_00: I know, because we want to edit, we want to get the spelling right, we want to get the grammar right, we want to make it look neat, but this is supposed to be exactly the opposite.
- 31:40SPEAKER_00: It's supposed to be messy, fast, nonsensical, even.
- 31:44SPEAKER_00: The key here is write faster than your hesitation.
- 31:47SPEAKER_00: Write faster than your inner critic can criticize.
- 31:50SPEAKER_00: It's a race.
- 31:51SPEAKER_00: I love it.
- 31:52SPEAKER_00: So it's based on um another good read for the for current events, 1984, by George Orwell.
- 32:00SPEAKER_00: And in that book, he talks about Winston, the main character, uh, had a journal.
- 32:04SPEAKER_00: And this journaling was an illegal activity in the totalian uh totalitarian state that he was in.
- 32:10SPEAKER_00: But he actually started journaling and his mind started drifting.
- 32:14SPEAKER_00: He was looking out the window, journaling away.
- 32:16SPEAKER_00: He looks down at his paper and he sees that he has written over and over, down with big brother, down with big brother.
- 32:22SPEAKER_00: Wow, which of course is thought crime.
- 32:24SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 32:25SPEAKER_00: And that's what we need to get to right now in our world is we need to commit thought crime against these structures that are holding us back.
- 32:32SPEAKER_00: Throughout thought crime against beauty culture, you know, old family systems, narcissistic dynamics, um, you know, limiting religious paradigms that we might be a part of, limiting um governmental regimes.
- 32:46SPEAKER_00: We need to commit thought crime.
- 32:48SPEAKER_00: And that's a scary thing.
- 32:49SPEAKER_00: Our conscious mind is gonna want to prevent that.
- 32:52SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 32:52SPEAKER_00: But our intuition does a lot of thought crime.
- 32:56SPEAKER_00: So the key here is to do it with a timer.
- 33:01SPEAKER_00: So I'm gonna set my phone timer for three minutes.
- 33:05SPEAKER_00: Usually the instructions are to do this for seven minutes.
- 33:09SPEAKER_00: Um, we're gonna do the speed writing process for like, should we do two or three minutes just for the sake of it?
- 33:14SPEAKER_00: Three minutes.
- 33:14SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 33:15SPEAKER_00: Three minutes we can.
- 33:16SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 33:16SPEAKER_00: Um, and so you're gonna start by writing on your paper, dear, your name.
- 33:24SPEAKER_00: And then the next line is this is your body, and this is what I want to tell you.
- 33:30SPEAKER_00: Okay, so you're gonna be writing this from your body's voice.
- 33:34SPEAKER_00: Again, write faster than your inner critic, and I'm gonna start the timer.
- 33:39SPEAKER_00: So roll with it.
- 33:41SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 33:43SPEAKER_01: Oh, I'm nervous.
- 33:44SPEAKER_01: Like I'm like, ah, what's gonna come out?
- 33:48SPEAKER_01: Okay, so I'm gonna go.
- 33:50SPEAKER_01: I'm not thinking.
- 33:50SPEAKER_00: I you're not thinking, you're just spilling it out.
- 33:53SPEAKER_00: And even if you need to keep your pen moving, you can just write, keep going, darling, just keep going, just keep swimming.
- 33:59SPEAKER_00: So like Dory, can I just scribble?
- 34:02SPEAKER_00: If nothing comes out, just scribble.
- 34:04SPEAKER_00: Just just write words, whatever you got in your head.
- 34:07SPEAKER_00: Okay, okay, and I I'll give it a roll.
- 34:09SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna do it too.
- 34:11SPEAKER_00: Oh, perfect.
- 34:13SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 34:14SPEAKER_00: Well, that felt like forever.
- 34:18SPEAKER_00: Yeah, seven minutes is uh definitely a stretch, but it it's what's cool is now you can read through what you write, what you've written, and just take a pen and underline anything that really stands out.
- 34:32SPEAKER_01: Okay, yeah, because my body kept repeating some of the same words over and over.
- 34:38SPEAKER_01: So let's see, let's underline them and then do you want to share?
- 34:43SPEAKER_00: Um, I'm I'm good for sharing.
- 34:45SPEAKER_00: Yeah, this is just the process of kind of finding the gold nuggets and all of the dust that had to come out.
- 34:51SPEAKER_01: All right, so everybody who's listening or watching, we're now going through an underlying what common word words that kept coming up, right?
- 34:59SPEAKER_01: Or words that were are really speaking to you.
- 35:01SPEAKER_00: Yeah, or phrases that or instruct if you got any instructions that you know your body needed to express to you.
- 35:09SPEAKER_00: Okay, are you ready?
- 35:11SPEAKER_00: I'm ready.
- 35:12SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 35:12SPEAKER_00: Should I give it a go first?
- 35:14SPEAKER_00: You go first, then I'll go.
- 35:16SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 35:17SPEAKER_00: Um, I got more reminders to rest more.
- 35:20SPEAKER_00: I've had a couple intense weeks, and just to take more time uh in nature without my phone, just a reminder like, hey Lauren, this is what I came down here for was to really enjoy Earth.
- 35:32SPEAKER_00: Like, I love being in Earth.
- 35:34SPEAKER_00: I am part of Earth.
- 35:36SPEAKER_00: I want to just, you know, take a walk and look up at the sky, um, just be in the quiet in the trees.
- 35:42SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, I I I wrote down, you are in this beautiful world, drink it up.
- 35:50SPEAKER_00: Oh, I love that.
- 35:51SPEAKER_00: I love that.
- 35:53SPEAKER_01: All right, I'll tell you mine.
- 35:54SPEAKER_01: And it's interesting because um I didn't realize this was affecting me so much.
- 35:59SPEAKER_01: But I wrote um over and over, um, I want to feel alive and free.
- 36:05SPEAKER_01: Um, which obviously means different things to different people.
- 36:08SPEAKER_01: But then it made sense because as I continued on, it said, um, um, I need to laugh.
- 36:13SPEAKER_01: And now uh I've connected so much with my body that it will tell me the difference between a want and a need.
- 36:19SPEAKER_01: So I'm sure you've experienced that too.
- 36:21SPEAKER_01: So I need, I actually need laughter.
- 36:23SPEAKER_01: And then um as I continued writing, like I'm glad that you had it for three minutes because it did.
- 36:30SPEAKER_01: It the more time in, like I'm I'm gonna go back and do it for seven minutes, like you said, because the more time in, the more things that actually got revealed, you know.
- 36:37SPEAKER_01: Like at the beginning, I wrote, I want to eat a brownie.
- 36:42SPEAKER_01: That's obviously not my intuition, that's my mind.
- 36:44SPEAKER_01: I'm like, I'm tired.
- 36:45SPEAKER_01: I want to eat a brownie.
- 36:47SPEAKER_01: Um, so as I went down though and really started tapping in to what my body was actually telling me, um, my throat started constricting, like closing up.
- 36:57SPEAKER_01: And it said, um, it says, uh, my body said, I need to be released.
- 37:02SPEAKER_01: I need you to set me free.
- 37:04SPEAKER_01: I need you to trust me.
- 37:05SPEAKER_01: I try to trust yourself and trust me.
- 37:09SPEAKER_01: I am all that you need.
- 37:11SPEAKER_01: And then um then it said, Um, I need you to trust me.
- 37:15SPEAKER_01: I'm sad.
- 37:16SPEAKER_01: You're holding it too close, holding life too close.
- 37:19SPEAKER_01: So this is all related to my mother passing away, you know, if in the last year.
- 37:26SPEAKER_01: Uh well, part of that is so holding on to life and holding all that too close and needing to laugh and the sadness.
- 37:32SPEAKER_01: That's I'm I'm, you know, still grieving her loss.
- 37:35SPEAKER_01: And then the whole trust me and the the throat constricting.
- 37:38SPEAKER_01: Um, that one is afraid to use my voice, right?
- 37:42SPEAKER_01: Even through these, through the podcast and my my books and my my blogging.
- 37:48SPEAKER_01: Like I talked about this with my co-author Joel before, is I am I'm afraid to just open up and because of because of the criticism, right?
- 37:57SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 37:57SPEAKER_00: So can I share something that's coming up for me?
- 38:00SPEAKER_00: Yes.
- 38:00SPEAKER_00: So uh something else I talk about in the book is using flower essences.
- 38:04SPEAKER_00: Are you familiar with those?
- 38:05SPEAKER_00: I am, I have not used them myself, but okay.
- 38:09SPEAKER_00: So um, so I actually formulate flower essences, and I have three in particular that were like shouting your name as you're reading through your paper.
- 38:18SPEAKER_00: And so maybe this is an exercise other people can do if they're rereading and they're like, huh, these specific issues are coming up.
- 38:25SPEAKER_00: The first one is called soul play, and this is like releasing energetic patterns related to like kind of Protestant worth ethic or um not giving yourself permission to have fun and laugh.
- 38:38SPEAKER_00: So soul play.
- 38:40SPEAKER_00: Um, and these are from floralsong.com.
- 38:43SPEAKER_00: Um, the other one is heartbalm, and this is one that helps release like energetic patterns, release uh trauma related to deep wounds, deep grief that can get stored in the body, um, right?
- 39:00SPEAKER_00: Because emotions are energy, and energy can get stuck in our cells.
- 39:04SPEAKER_00: Yep.
- 39:04SPEAKER_00: And then the last one would be Song of Yourself, which I just took.
- 39:07SPEAKER_00: I actually have them back here.
- 39:09SPEAKER_00: This one I take before all my interviews, uh, and writing sessions, Song of Yourself, because it is for opening the throat chakra, empowering self-expression, empowering voice.
- 39:21SPEAKER_00: Uh, it's really it's a beautiful energetic tool for that.
- 39:24SPEAKER_00: That's wonderful.
- 39:25SPEAKER_01: Okay, so for anyone listening, these are flower essence, and how do they how do they take them?
- 39:31SPEAKER_00: So they're tinctures that you just you take orally, they're flavorless, odorless, they're preserved in invasive uh organic alcohol, and they work by capturing the energetic imprint of certain flowers and water.
- 39:43SPEAKER_00: You know, water has a very powerful memory, um, and they're very similar to homeopathy in that way.
- 39:50SPEAKER_00: The active ingredient is energy rather than like a chemical compound that's been extracted from the plant.
- 39:55SPEAKER_00: So you just take four drops like on your tongue, four times a day.
- 40:00SPEAKER_00: The frequency is important.
- 40:01SPEAKER_00: Uh, the number of times you're taking it during the day is kind of the key because you you want to keep introducing that new energetic pattern into your body.
- 40:09SPEAKER_00: Um, but for people who are energy sensitive, they work so well.
- 40:14SPEAKER_00: They're just powerful and beautiful and gentle.
- 40:17SPEAKER_01: That's awesome.
- 40:18SPEAKER_01: I love that.
- 40:19SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 40:21SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
- 40:21SPEAKER_01: Okay, so yeah, we'll have to have you come back another time to you know discuss more about body connection because this is just there's so much to ask, and there's so many layers to peel back here that you know.
- 40:31SPEAKER_01: I recommend if anyone's interested in this, um, get Lauren's book.
- 40:37SPEAKER_01: It's very thought-provoking, lots of great exercises, you know, even a meditation that she does that's available online.
- 40:44SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's it's fantastic.
- 40:46SPEAKER_01: Now, Lauren, where can they get your book?
- 40:48SPEAKER_00: So, Amazon, Barnes and Noble, all major booksellers.
- 40:53SPEAKER_00: Um, and then you can find links to all those at invisiblecoreset.com.
- 40:57SPEAKER_01: Great.
- 40:58SPEAKER_01: And we'll link them too in the description for this video and this podcast.
- 41:01SPEAKER_01: Well, Lauren, thank you so much for coming on the program.
- 41:04SPEAKER_00: This has been awesome.
- 41:06SPEAKER_00: Thank you, Cena.
- 41:06SPEAKER_00: I am just such a fan of your work and what you're bringing to the world, and it's really great to chat with you.
- 41:12SPEAKER_01: Oh, thanks.
- 41:13SPEAKER_01: We'll definitely come back again.
- 41:15SPEAKER_00: We'll do.
- 41:16SPEAKER_01: Okay, for everybody else, I hope you have a great time today, whatever your whatever your plans are.
- 41:21SPEAKER_01: Enjoy it, live in the moment, and come back for our interview with Lauren, the next one, about how she reversed an autoimmune disease.
- 41:31SPEAKER_01: All right, so next time.
- 41:32SPEAKER_01: Have a good day.
- 41:33SPEAKER_01: Bye bye.