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McDaniel's 1 · Brewing Better Marriages

• 0:13
  SPEAKER_01: I guess I've been looking for you.
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  SPEAKER_01: I guess I've been looking for you.
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  SPEAKER_03: Welcome to Brewing Better Marriages from T South Dakota with Philip and Debbie Sanders.
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  SPEAKER_03: If these podcasts have been a help to you, pass it on to others.
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  SPEAKER_03: Let us know with an email and also include any questions that you might have on the subjects that we cover.
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  SPEAKER_03: The last few sessions we have covered little snippets of marriage is honorable.
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  SPEAKER_03: And today we're shifting gears.
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  SPEAKER_03: We have Brother Sean, Sister Retha McDaniel, who has been helping us here to pioneer the church in Tea, South Dakota.
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  SPEAKER_03: Welcome, Brother Sean.
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  SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_03: Welcome, Sister Retha.
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  SPEAKER_03: And we're going to be discussing some things about their life, at least on this podcast.
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  SPEAKER_03: We may come back with another one or two in the future and talk about what they're going to do and what they have been doing in their ministry.
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  SPEAKER_03: But uh today we want to just say welcome.
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  SPEAKER_03: Deb's with us here.
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  SPEAKER_03: Hey Deb, how are you today?
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm good.
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  SPEAKER_03: Are you sure?
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I'm real sure.
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  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, guess what?
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  SPEAKER_03: Thursday is.
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  SPEAKER_04: Do you remember how many years?
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  SPEAKER_03: Of what?
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  SPEAKER_04: Marriage.
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  SPEAKER_03: Oh.
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  SPEAKER_03: Is Thursday our marriage uh anniversary?
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  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_04: You still haven't seen it.
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  SPEAKER_04: I do.
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  SPEAKER_03: I do how many.
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  SPEAKER_03: It seems like, honey, it's only been 20 years.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_04: One times 20.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, it has been.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's 49 years this Thursday, August the 6th.
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  SPEAKER_03: Right.
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  SPEAKER_03: And guess what?
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  SPEAKER_03: We are still madly in love.
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  SPEAKER_03: Maybe sometimes more madly than no, we're always in love.
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  SPEAKER_03: But uh our marriage conference, we say some days I I love you every day.
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  SPEAKER_03: But some days what?
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  SPEAKER_04: Uh I don't like you.
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  SPEAKER_03: Really?
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  SPEAKER_03: Is this one of those days?
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  SPEAKER_04: No comment.
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  SPEAKER_03: Okay, back to Brother Sean and Sister Retha.
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  SPEAKER_03: Man, it's been so great to have you guys here with us, Brother Sean.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I'm counted a privilege to be able to uh throw these podcasts out with you in it.
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  SPEAKER_03: And um you've got some you've got some things, you two have some things to share with people that most people don't have.
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  SPEAKER_03: So share with us a little about your life, the beginnings, Brother Sean, if you will.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay, I was uh born in Oklahoma, out a small town, Idabel, Oklahoma.
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh raised in church all my life.
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh and uh went uh went to uh brother El Wayne Schaefer's church there, uh Grace Assembly, and uh just uh saved at a at a young age.
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  SPEAKER_02: I think about uh when I was saved, I I don't remember how old I was, but I remember uh kneeling at the front pew there at the church and uh praying, and on the way home I told my parents, you know, I I don't remember what I said, but I remember uh being as a young child, probably seven, eight years old, I said I felt like a weight was lifted off my praise God.
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  SPEAKER_03: Praise God.
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  SPEAKER_03: Thankful for God's goodness and you have a little bit in common with Deb.
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh Deb says many times, you know, I can't remember, but I know I got saved uh four, I think, five years old.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I just know that uh I know that at that point God saved me.
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  SPEAKER_03: Go ahead, Brother Sean.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, as I said, I'm just thankful for uh the Christian upbringing that I had.
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  SPEAKER_02: You know, of course, you know, life is you know, life, and you know, not everything was perfect, but I'm thankful that uh was raised in a Christian home, was uh uh able to to go to a Christian school from kindergarten through twelfth grade, and and thankful for the the Christian foundation that I had for my life.
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  SPEAKER_02: Amen.
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  SPEAKER_02: Now was your parents uh saved, both of them?
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  SPEAKER_02: Yes, they were.
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  SPEAKER_02: There was a a time later on that uh my dad was out of church for several years, but uh when I in my younger years, they were both saved and in church.
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  SPEAKER_03: Praise the Lord.
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  SPEAKER_03: How about you, Sister Aetha?
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  SPEAKER_03: I know you're anticipating this.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I was um born in Indiana, and I was raised in a Christian home, and I got saved when I was a child, like I y'all have said, you know, remember when you got saved, but that's the same with me.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't really remember, but I think dad told me that one day I just came to him and told him I wanted to be saved.
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  SPEAKER_00: Praise God.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so um anyway, of course I've had my ups and downs, and you know, had to come back to God, say forgive me, you know, for whatever.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I'm thankful that I was raised in a Christian home.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I was actually under um um Brother McGeechee there in Goshen, Indiana at the Assembly of God Church.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then years later, my dad pastored for about 20 years, and so when I was in, uh, I would help him at times.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, I would be out sometimes um teaching at Christian schools, different places, but when I was home, I'd help him in the church.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so anyway, that's the way it was.
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  SPEAKER_03: Okay, now you also did a f a little bit of missionary stuff, and you know, tell us about you know, I remember your father from OBI.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um, him and uh I was just a young boy, and it caused him a lot of heartaches and sorrows, I'm sure.
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  SPEAKER_03: But uh I do remember uh I I remember him and Roseanne, and um he was a committed man.
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  SPEAKER_03: Of course, he was later, I think.
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  SPEAKER_03: How old were they when they went to OBI?
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I was a baby, so I was just born in June and they went in September.
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  SPEAKER_03: Okay, if you were a baby, then that means that what that would have been uh he would have been what 50?
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  SPEAKER_03: No, that it was about 20, 21.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and uh some good memories that we have there.
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  SPEAKER_03: And how how about later?
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  SPEAKER_03: I mean, as you went through, you do you went to Bible schools and et cetera?
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  SPEAKER_00: I went to Figby um for three years, graduated, and then about nine or ten years later went to OBI and did one year there.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so actually that's the reason why I was able to um get in contact with Sean or him with me, because if I would have never went to OBI, then uh we would have never got together.
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  SPEAKER_00: He didn't go there, but um a girl that uh came through um OBI while I was teaching OCA, um she's the one who got us connected and so and after you graduated from OBI, what are some of the things that you did?
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  SPEAKER_00: So after I graduated from Fig B, um I went to immediately I went to uh Berkeley Springs, West Virginia for the fall, I mean, to teach.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um and I taught there for two years, and then after that I uh taught at oh I guess it was probably two or three other Christian schools, and so I did that, and then I went on some short-term mission trips.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um and uh What countries have you been to?
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  SPEAKER_00: Guatemala, Dominican Republic, Haiti, um places like that.
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  SPEAKER_00: So you're world renowned.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, that gives you a little background for where you what you're doing.
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  SPEAKER_03: You it seems like Sister Ethan, you've always had a vision to accomplish more for God.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's my desire is to, you know, do you think what would you attribute that to?
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  SPEAKER_00: Probably um probably my mom and dad.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, she's dealt with depression on and off, but uh she she tells me, she said, You got that from me, you know, the evangelistic type, you know, things.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I don't know if we said, but her parents' name is Ken and Roseanne Johnson from Goshen, Indiana.
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  SPEAKER_03: And uh you know, isn't it something that we are a product of our raising?
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  SPEAKER_03: How that God just puts stuff into our lives and uh and changes us and makes something out of us.
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  SPEAKER_04: That's why it's important as parents that we keep our children in a church, not just church, but even in the home to keep God in their life to lead him and guide him, because we may not always be there.
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  SPEAKER_04: But those things that we instill in them will never leave them.
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  SPEAKER_04: And you know, even if our children go away from God, there's times that you know that happens, but you have instilled in them the principles and the teachings of the word, and and it'll come to fruition.
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  SPEAKER_03: And it's you know, I read it I read a book one time.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's really important for us as parents to be proactive and not reactive.
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  SPEAKER_03: Raising children is like uh riding in a canoe.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um, you know, uh we we did some father-son and even just some men's things uh when I was pastoring a faith.
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  SPEAKER_03: And uh one time, you know, uh uh nobody else wanted this guy in the canoe with him.
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  SPEAKER_03: So guess who gets him?
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  SPEAKER_03: The pastor.
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  SPEAKER_03: Okay, because he was just one of these guys that you knew something was going to, he was going to do something.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_03: And it wasn't me.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_03: And and so uh I put him in the front and I said, Now if I tell you to paddle on the right side, you paddle on the right side.
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  SPEAKER_03: If I tell you to paddle left, paddle left.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, the first sharp turn, there was a a limb that came down and kind of hung over the the uh river, and uh I said, paddle, paddle right, paddle right, paddle, and he threw his paddle down and stood up in the canoe.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm telling you, guess where all of our stuff, guess where I went?
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  SPEAKER_03: We all went in the river.
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  SPEAKER_03: Why?
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  SPEAKER_03: Because we didn't both have the same mind.
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  SPEAKER_03: Now, raising children is kind of the same way.
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  SPEAKER_03: We look ahead to see where we're going or they're going or what's in their life, and we try to guide that so that they will go in the right direction.
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  SPEAKER_03: What did he say in Proverbs?
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  SPEAKER_04: Train up a child, the way he should go.
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  SPEAKER_04: And when he's old, he'll not depart from it.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: You mean and and in our marriage conference we did this on our podcast.
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  SPEAKER_03: We told you it's like a planting a tree.
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  SPEAKER_03: You've got to train it.
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  SPEAKER_03: You can't just turn it loose and let it go.
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  SPEAKER_03: You have to train that tree.
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  SPEAKER_03: So um was that all that you was gonna say on the background, Sister Retha?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, just well, with the fact of going on mission trips, um, I'm kind of getting probably ahead of myself, but you know, Sean had done the same thing single, and we did not even know each other.
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  SPEAKER_00: Have you been on missions trip, brother Sean?
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  SPEAKER_02: I uh started when I was 19.
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  SPEAKER_02: We took our first trip to Mexico, and uh that's when the Lord first dealt with me about missions.
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  SPEAKER_02: And uh for about 15 years, every year we'd go to Mexico.
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  SPEAKER_02: Praise God.
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh help uh brother Vernon French, a missionary down there.
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  SPEAKER_02: We'd uh build a church or remodel a church.
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  SPEAKER_02: One year we built a house for a pastor.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, I wish I'd have known that.
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  SPEAKER_03: And Sunday night we was at uh tabernacle and brother Vernon was there.
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  SPEAKER_03: Oh, okay.
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  SPEAKER_03: And um he would have I don't know if he'll remember, he's having some uh memory problems.
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  SPEAKER_02: But that's that's that is pretty neat.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and then uh did that for you know, like I said, about fifteen years.
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  SPEAKER_02: Then I've been to Panama and to Haiti.
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  SPEAKER_00: We both had been to Haiti at the same well, the Lloyd's orphanage and like a year or two yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: A year apart, and we didn't know each other at that point.
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  SPEAKER_02: I was there, and then a year later she was there, and this was a couple years before we met.
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  SPEAKER_03: Oh, praise God.
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  SPEAKER_03: This is wonderful.
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  SPEAKER_03: Now, our next podcast, we're kind of coming to the end of this one, but our next podcast will still have Brother Sean, Sister Retha with us, and we're gonna be talking more about um how they met, uh, about their relationship and and when they did meet and what caused all that.
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  SPEAKER_03: They were later in life.
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  SPEAKER_03: The mo most, you know, I mean, most people are about like old Phillip Sanders, you know, 19 years old when he popped the question.
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  SPEAKER_03: And of course, I married an older woman.
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  SPEAKER_03: She's 42.
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  SPEAKER_04: She was 42 when I'm now we're gonna have to have an altar call.
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  SPEAKER_03: So she was 21.
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  SPEAKER_03: When we married.
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  SPEAKER_03: 21.
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  SPEAKER_03: And um uh, you know, it's I should have known better.
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  SPEAKER_03: Look how blessed you are and what you would have missed, honey.
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  SPEAKER_03: Oh, happy years.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: But it's kind of come to the end.
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  SPEAKER_03: We try not to drag these out and appreciate those who have said something.
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  SPEAKER_03: Not very many are emailing us or or letting us know that you appreciate these or enjoy these.
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  SPEAKER_03: But if you will, you can go to our website, which is sanders-ministries.org.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'll say that again.
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  SPEAKER_03: Sanders-ministries.org or Deb?
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  SPEAKER_04: Or you can email us at sandersministries at gmail.com with any questions or comments.
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  SPEAKER_04: Sandersministries at gmail.com.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, once again, thank you for tuning in.
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  SPEAKER_03: We've enjoyed it, and uh we'll get a little more from Brother Sean, Sister Reath on the next podcast.
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  SPEAKER_03: God bless.