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3 Guys Before The Game - Tucker DeVries Visits (Episode 579) · 3 Guys Before The Game

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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, just when you thought, just when you thought
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  Speaker 1: the Summers series was over, because you thought summer was over,
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  Speaker 1: you thought fall was here.
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  Speaker 2: What do we do? We're going backdoor cut, We're gonna
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  Speaker 2: come in from behind. You don't even see us coming in.
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  Speaker 2: We got a guest in studio for Three Guys before
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  Speaker 2: the game, episode number five hundred and seventy eight, and
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  Speaker 2: we are delighted to be joined by Mountaineer basketball player
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  Speaker 2: Tucker Devrees on the program snuckling in out and didn't.
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  Speaker 3: We They had no idea.
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  Speaker 2: This was like you thought, hey, here, hey, it's gonna
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  Speaker 2: be this is a good We're gonna be a football
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  Speaker 2: shall say no, no, no, this is not like, hey, hey,
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  Speaker 2: what are we gonna do full time? No, we got
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  Speaker 2: a dude. We got a dude with us in the studio.
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  Speaker 2: We talked last week about Mountaineer basketball practice beginning. Fortunately,
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  Speaker 2: we're taking advantage of an off day and we're going
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  Speaker 2: to just kind of talk ball plus a few other things. Senators, here,
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  Speaker 2: Tucker is here and three guys is ready to go,
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  Speaker 2: start your day? The three guys way with a Tutor's
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  Speaker 2: Conley's CPA group.
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  Speaker 3: We should have picked up some of those tutors biscuits
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  Speaker 3: on the way here.
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  Speaker 2: Have you had one yet?
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  Speaker 4: I haven't.
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  Speaker 3: Oh really, yeah, we should have done oh yeah early
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  Speaker 3: turnover by me. Yeah, should have got us one.
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  Speaker 2: We didn't need to get Tucker a Tutor's biscuit and
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  Speaker 2: three guys also brought to us by Conley CPA group
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  Speaker 2: providing value beyond numbers. We're going to do that as well.
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  Speaker 2: And the numbers. We're going to look at our Tucker numbers.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe teach him something that he may not know about
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  Speaker 2: his game, that the computer knows about his game, whether
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  Speaker 2: he doesn't know about his game. All right, let's do
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  Speaker 2: this thing. Ooh music, all right, buddy, nice to have
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  Speaker 2: you on here.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, thank thank you guys for having me.
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  Speaker 2: So we got about fifty two different directions a week
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  Speaker 2: could go. We're catching you on and off day. We
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  Speaker 2: were saying in the last couple of weeks, basketball practice
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  Speaker 2: really like back in the old days. October fifteenth, and
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  Speaker 2: you're too young to remember this, but it was October fifteenth.
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  Speaker 2: It was like it was like Christmas Day for basketball
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  Speaker 2: fans October fifteenth. Everyone is October fifteenth, of October fifteenth,
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  Speaker 2: and then like on the fourteenth, people would start practice
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  Speaker 2: at midnight going into the fifteenth midnight madness. Now you
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  Speaker 2: barely may remember that. Where you're growing up in Omaha Creighton,
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  Speaker 2: maybe you had a little midnight madness.
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  Speaker 4: They had something called midnight madness. Yeah, but I don't
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  Speaker 4: think it was really never a midnight.
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  Speaker 2: Well back in the old days, old days, it was midnight.
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  Speaker 2: So you would just sit in a gym. It's the
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  Speaker 2: fourteenth of October, and then the stroke of midnight comes.
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  Speaker 2: It's legal because Lord knows, we don't want to have
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  Speaker 2: any NC double A violations. And practice would start and
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  Speaker 2: then the season wouldn't start until the Thanksgiving week that's
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  Speaker 2: when you would play your first game. Oh yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So the point to all this is like practice never stops, never, right,
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  Speaker 2: it's a year round thing.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: No, we get a couple of weeks right after the
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  Speaker 5: season and maybe a week in August and that's about it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And for you what an off season? Man, A
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  Speaker 2: few things change in your life. Huh.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, it's a little different now. Yeah, it's been good,
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  Speaker 5: it's been exciting. So we're looking forward to.
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  Speaker 2: It, so just to kind of think of this. So
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  Speaker 2: we're recording and it's still September, So this is the
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  Speaker 2: ninth month in the course of six months. Let's start
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  Speaker 2: lining up a few of the milestones in your life
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  Speaker 2: and the course of the last six months. You guys have
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  Speaker 2: played in the NCAA tournament at Drake. Your dad less
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  Speaker 2: than five six days later, takes a new job at
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  Speaker 2: West Virginia. A few days later, or if not the
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  Speaker 2: same exact time, you say, I'm in. You have shoulder surgery, right,
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  Speaker 2: Fleu had shoulder surgery. You come here, you see your
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  Speaker 2: dad's press conference, You rehab, you kind of get integrated here,
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  Speaker 2: you're going back and forth, finishing school, doing the whole thing.
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  Speaker 2: Now you're here, putting a roster together, start practicing for Italy.
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  Speaker 2: Go to Italy, go do that. Get back here. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: now it's for real. You build up to your practices,
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  Speaker 2: the hour commitment that you have and now it's started.
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  Speaker 2: That just made me tired, Senator? Did that did that
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  Speaker 2: make you tee?
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  Speaker 3: It's a lot in a few months.
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  Speaker 2: Now you're young. What does that do you have? You
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  Speaker 2: have you put that in the prospective got.
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  Speaker 3: He picked up the Missouri Valley Conference Player of the
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  Speaker 3: Year before they went to the nca Tournament, his second straight. Right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I had to clear some room on the trophy case.
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  Speaker 2: Larry the Larry Bird. Sure, Larry Bird MVP. So dude,
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  Speaker 2: that's a ton.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, No, it's definitely. Looking back at it, it feels
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  Speaker 5: like a lot. But it's crazy how quick it's gone.
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  Speaker 5: And you know, scary how quick it's going to go
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  Speaker 5: because you want it to slow down because you know
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  Speaker 5: it's final year and you just want to enjoy it.
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  Speaker 5: But you know, just trying to soak it all in
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  Speaker 5: and you know, embrace it. But it's it's certainly been
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  Speaker 5: a whirlwind last Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, and you think about it, I mean, just forget
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  Speaker 2: about the basketball. I mean you're moving into a completely
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  Speaker 2: new area, right, your whole family, who's you know, based
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  Speaker 2: from Omaha and then in in Des Moines and in
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  Speaker 2: that area in Iowa, and you come here and there's
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  Speaker 2: a different geography, different topography, you different people that you're meeting.
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  Speaker 2: I know, it's a ton, but I think long term,
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  Speaker 2: you'll look back at this and you go like that
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  Speaker 2: was an invaluable experience because it just exposes you to
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  Speaker 2: different people, different looks, different things, and just it helps
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  Speaker 2: you in your growth. Yeah, I mean I needed to
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  Speaker 2: tell you that, but I'm just letting it know now.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm certainly excited. It's weird.
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  Speaker 5: I'm actually just talking about this too, how different it is.
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  Speaker 5: You know, Drake's small school two thousand students to three
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  Speaker 5: thousand students, and then but it's in a city, so
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  Speaker 5: it's just a different vibe of you know, almost half
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  Speaker 5: a million people, right you. And then then you come
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  Speaker 5: here and it's you know, a smaller community but a
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  Speaker 5: big school, so it's you know, just kind of that
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  Speaker 5: college town vibe. And it's just two completely different experiences,
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  Speaker 5: and you know, glad I get to experience both of them.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're a football guy. You like football, right, football family. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: your uncle played in thirty seven years in the NFL
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  Speaker 3: something like that. There was thirty eight, was it like
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  Speaker 3: twelve he played like twelve or thirteen?
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  Speaker 5: He played twelve years? Yeah, I remember probably the last
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  Speaker 5: two to three. One of them wasn't so great for him,
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  Speaker 5: but it was fun to be a part of and
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  Speaker 5: be able to, you know, go to those games.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: One of the all time great college players in history
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  Speaker 3: at the University of Aisle. You've you've enjoyed going over
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  Speaker 3: to Mountaineer Field watching those games.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been fun.
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  Speaker 5: Fun, been to all the home games, so it's been
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  Speaker 5: a lot of fun to be able to experience it.
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  Speaker 2: We were talking about your uncle's numbers in college. There's
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  Speaker 2: it's crazy that he's not in a college football Hall
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  Speaker 2: of Fame. He's got to be going into the criminal Dude.
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  Speaker 2: Have you ever looked at his stats?
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  Speaker 4: I haven't.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.
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  Speaker 4: Everybody talks about his.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, his stats are one word stupid. His
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  Speaker 2: stats are how many TFLs do.
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  Speaker 3: You talk at NCAA one or two all time in
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  Speaker 3: tackles for losses, He's up there in sacks. It's it's unbelievable.
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  Speaker 2: He had twenty two tackles for a loss in the season.
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  Speaker 2: What was that one game? Was that one game against
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  Speaker 2: Michigan and Brian Greasy?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he had four tackles for ten ten on assisted tackles,
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  Speaker 3: four TfL's, three sacks against Michigan just one game.
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  Speaker 2: That's consensus all American. I mean, you understand that consensus
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  Speaker 2: all American. That's kind of like here, what they used
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  Speaker 2: to do. If you were consensed All American, they'd take
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  Speaker 2: your locker and they would plexiglass at shut leave your
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  Speaker 2: uniform in there, and that was it. Consensued all American.
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  Speaker 3: How I'm starting of the twenty five of them in
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  Speaker 3: the history of Iowa football, Jared's one of them.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't met him yet. Almost a campaign. You got
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  Speaker 2: to get the guy into College Football Hall of Fame,
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  Speaker 2: because in order to be eligible, you have to be
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  Speaker 2: an All American, a consensus All American, just to get
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  Speaker 2: into the qualifying right, And that's a that's a thing
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  Speaker 2: here that's always going to come back as Pat White,
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  Speaker 2: you know, unfortunately was not a first team All American
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  Speaker 2: and as a result, will never qualify to go to
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  Speaker 2: the College Football Hall of Fame, which is a whole
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  Speaker 2: different criminal story because he should be. But anyway, but
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  Speaker 2: your guy uncle, he got to get in, all right.
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  Speaker 4: You have to.
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  Speaker 5: You have to start start the trend for him. Is
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  Speaker 5: he gonna come around here, or he'll be here, he'll
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  Speaker 5: visit you, he'll come to some game.
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  Speaker 2: He's on the farm. Now what's he doing out there?
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  Speaker 2: Is he working? What's he doing?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's just hanging around. Clear Lake, you know, kind
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  Speaker 4: of living the life.
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  Speaker 3: Is he still coaching? He's coaching there for a while.
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  Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, he did for a little bit, but I
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  Speaker 5: think he's finally had his time and you know, just
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  Speaker 5: kind of enjoying life now.
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  Speaker 2: So he's in clear Lake.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he's kind of all over there. Iow City,
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  Speaker 4: clear Lake, Moine.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, give me gi for you here. Clear Lake is
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  Speaker 2: how far from Iowa From Iowa City?
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  Speaker 4: Iowa City's probably an hour and a half.
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  Speaker 2: As far as he from Ames.
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  Speaker 4: Ames would probably be an hour to an hour.
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  Speaker 2: So we're talking clear Lake, clear Lake, like the clear
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  Speaker 2: Lake Buddy, like the body Buddy Holly, clear Lake, you
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  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Yeah, I think that's r Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's where it was. Buddy Holly, one of the great musicians, died, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: playing crash along with the Big along with the Richie
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  Speaker 2: Vallens was on the flight, the Big Bopper and uh
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  Speaker 2: and Buddy Holly and Whalen Jennings was supposed to be
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  Speaker 2: on the flight, but he took the bus.
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  Speaker 3: Chances are good when Jared's out at clear Lake, he's
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  Speaker 3: on a lou Wendel Marine pontoon. But I don't think
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  Speaker 3: there's any questions, there's any question, Well, I.
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  Speaker 2: Think yeah, there's probably And you know, he's an American
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  Speaker 2: like most of us, and he wants probably the American
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  Speaker 2: Baiden moats. And so when he goes on his pontoon
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  Speaker 2: from lou Wendell, they're in clear Lake, he's on an
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  Speaker 2: avalon boat because they are manufactured one hundred percent in
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  Speaker 2: the United States, made in Michigan. You can check him
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  Speaker 2: out for yourself visit lou Wendell Marine Sales dot com.
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  Speaker 2: Very well done in your part. We call that in
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  Speaker 2: the name basketball. You call that an assist. We call
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  Speaker 2: that in an assist in the podcast thing space. All right,
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  Speaker 2: so he'll be around, yeah for sure. How does he
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  Speaker 2: behave in games like behind? Is he behind the bench guy?
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  Speaker 2: Or is he tried? Will he try to go four, seven, eight,
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  Speaker 2: ten rows up?
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  Speaker 5: Uh, somebody's just gonna need to tell him one time
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  Speaker 5: what the chin is and he'll be starting at.
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  Speaker 2: Twenty times, so he's he's animated.
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  Speaker 4: He'll be into the game.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know I always find that interesting too.
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  Speaker 2: We get you know, basketball families, and by that I
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  Speaker 2: mean the wife and the kids. You know, you could
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  Speaker 2: probably you know that'd be a pretty good show because
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  Speaker 2: some families they are they sit behind their their bench,
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  Speaker 2: dad's coaching the team, and their nail biters like they
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  Speaker 2: literally like they're nervous the whole time. Others like they're
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  Speaker 2: outside of their skin, right, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 4: The nail biers would be my mom.
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  Speaker 2: She's so she's chilled, but she's biting neil.
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  Speaker 5: She doesn't really bite the nails, but she's she's.
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  Speaker 2: She's one of the she's one of those like the
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  Speaker 2: free throw goes up and she's giving you until.
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  Speaker 3: You're nervous for you or like that's a double dose
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  Speaker 3: of nervousness there. She's got her kid playing and her husband.
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  Speaker 5: That's a double dose on It's always it's always been
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  Speaker 5: pretty bad. She sometimes she just won't watch. She'll just
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  Speaker 5: turn away, and you have to tell her what happened.
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  Speaker 2: He got she goes home watch his tape. Okay, let
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  Speaker 2: me see what happened there.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, And then I think, now that I'm playing, uh,
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  Speaker 5: it's definitely way worse. I think I think she's probably
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  Speaker 5: a little more nervous for me than my dad.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: He'd have to ask her, well, she probably thinks your
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  Speaker 2: dad can fend for himself. He's been around, he's been
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  Speaker 2: through it. But she's thinking of you. Okay, you're your baby.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. That's probably a question for her,
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  Speaker 4: but I know she's nervous.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Interesting, Yeah, that's interally. So let me ask you this,
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  Speaker 2: So has her level of nervousness increased as your level
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  Speaker 2: of competition is increased? In other words, I don't think
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  Speaker 2: she's getting nervous when you were in fifth grade running
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  Speaker 2: up and down the floor chucking shots.
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  Speaker 4: No, probably not.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, high school she getting nervous?
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  Speaker 3: Well, you hold on. He had like a super team
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  Speaker 3: at Walkee. Well, I'm not saying he didn't. I'm just
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  Speaker 3: going there was anything to be nervous about. They They
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  Speaker 3: had like sixteen d one guys. They just never seen
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  Speaker 3: that in the state of Iowa. Absolute super team there. Well,
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  Speaker 3: she can still get happening at Waukee. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: how they amassed that kind of talent there, just absolutely
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  Speaker 3: loaded Ata.
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  Speaker 2: Did you guys have a big on il at Waukee? No?
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  Speaker 5: I wish, but no. She was probably nervous for our
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  Speaker 5: state championship. We had a little bit of a scare there.
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  Speaker 2: What was that What was going on was a score.
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  Speaker 4: Who'd you play Johnston?
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  Speaker 2: We're yeah.
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  Speaker 4: We were down eight or nine at half and that
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  Speaker 4: wasn't good. I don't think we had been down eight
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  Speaker 4: or nine probably whole year, and we were down.
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  Speaker 2: But there was a lot of pressure on.
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  Speaker 4: Our team took over. We handled business.
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  Speaker 3: Who okay, who else was on that team?
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  Speaker 2: Uh?
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  Speaker 5: Peyton Sanford at Iowa? Price Sanford at Iowa.
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  Speaker 3: Hold on, backup, go ahead, go slower so he can
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  Speaker 3: digest us.
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  Speaker 4: Both the Sanford brothers are now out Iowa.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Size.
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  Speaker 5: Uh Peyton's price six eight, sixty nine prices six eight?
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  Speaker 4: Then Omaha baloo?
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  Speaker 2: I love that name.
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  Speaker 3: What was Omaha's rating? Coming out of high school?
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  Speaker 4: Up there?
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  Speaker 3: Went to Iowa State originally remember this now this is
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  Speaker 3: the same high school team. It's in a travel team.
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  Speaker 5: No public public school. Then uh, other started was six eight?
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  Speaker 5: Just shoot her?
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  Speaker 4: And so how big?
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  Speaker 2: Because so give me all the heights of the starting lineup.
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  Speaker 2: I was our shortest guy, and you're six seventh, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: six seven, you're the shortest guy, was six seven? Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: How big is the point guard?
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  Speaker 4: I was?
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  Speaker 2: You were the point guard?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, high school times have changed.
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  Speaker 2: Here's a big question, what the hell were you doing
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  Speaker 2: down eight at halftime?
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  Speaker 4: That's a great question. You just weren't playing very well,
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  Speaker 4: but kicked it in.
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  Speaker 3: You got to win Toms.
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  Speaker 2: You wint the dub thirteen fourteen. What did it feel
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  Speaker 2: like to win a state championship?
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  Speaker 4: Relieving because we're supposed to?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess it be right.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, there's probably more pressure that you know, everybody expected
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  Speaker 5: it to happen.
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So in West Virginia, the state championship tournament is
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: a big deal. I mean people flock there. It's an event.
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: They're there. In Iowa, where is it held un Wells Fargo,
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: Wells Fargo.
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: He played in a different building that I played. The
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: old school was Vets Auditorium is where we played. They
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: played in the new area.
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: I'm assuming than in the state Iowa. It's a big
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: deal and people pack it.
• 15:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's a pretty big deal that ours is
• 15:27
  Speaker 5: a little unique because of COVID. But my junior year
• 15:31
  Speaker 5: we were actually the last sporting event oh like known
• 15:35
  Speaker 5: that played because everything kind of shut down On a Thursday.
• 15:39
  Speaker 5: It was our semi final and we had probably eight
• 15:42
  Speaker 5: to nine thousand people there and then the next day
• 15:44
  Speaker 5: State championship, one hundred fans each team. I know, man
• 15:48
  Speaker 5: in eighteen thousand arenas.
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: It's crazy, it's kind of weird.
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: Oh it was. I hate to even look back at that.
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: It was such a bummer.
• 15:55
  Speaker 5: Then the next year when when we won it, we
• 15:57
  Speaker 5: had we had fans, So yeah, it was good. So
• 15:59
  Speaker 5: you won on how many I won?
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: One?
• 16:01
  Speaker 5: I finished third my sophomore year, second my junior year, and.
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: Built it up. Yeah, so a great sense of relief
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: in her last year.
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I went to experience at all.
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: How that team get all loaded? Are all those kids
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: from there?
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 16:15
  Speaker 5: The Sanford brothers they were just from Waukee, and then
• 16:19
  Speaker 5: the other kid was from Waukey and then omaha, uh
• 16:24
  Speaker 5: he was.
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: Lived in Des Moines.
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: He went to migrated he was he was in De
• 16:28
  Speaker 5: Moine the whole time, went to private school first freshman
• 16:31
  Speaker 5: year and then when to come winn State championship.
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: So hey, Valley did a poor It went out and
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: got Jake Houer, right, Valley had Jake Houer.
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: But Jake gave it, gave it his best fight. I'll
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: give him that.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: When you played Valley, yeah yeah, let me ask you
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: this just between me and you, forget that he's here.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: Forget that he's here. So he's a Valley guy. Finally,
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: I mean he's been talking all this valley for all
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: these years, but we never had any Iowa people to
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: actually give us truth. It was just his verse version
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: of truth. Isn't it true? The Valley is a school
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: that consists of a bunch of elitists that looked their
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: not down their nose on other people objection, don't leave
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: the witness, just asking a question. Why don't that be
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: the perception that they're just kind of snooty?
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: Yea, there's a lot of perceptions of probably all them,
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: all that uh suburbs schools, but it's probably changed. We're
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: probably more of the suburb further out suburbs schooling now.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: So, by the way, he almost hyperventilated when you found
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: out your boy was here and that he broke his
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: three point shooting record.
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: And like he asked, break it, Jake, he did break it.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: Well, I don't I think he got the season, but
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: I still had the single game. So he had felt
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: one eight, he had.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: Eight, and and Jake had seven like seven times, but
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: he didn't get eight. And so he he has a
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: great sense of relief.
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: One of those seven were definitely against us.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: Well, he put up seven on you, guys.
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a lot of them.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: He rained them on you. Huh. Okay, all right, well
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: I'm glad we got that all clear. Thank you. I
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: appreciate that very much, Valley guys. Elitist anyway, health wise,
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: you're good, Yeah.
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: For sure.
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: This is actually probably the most healthy I've been in mind,
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: you know, since middle sophomore year.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: Seriously, so what have you been? What's been lingering?
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: Well? Two shoulder seargeries didn't help, but.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: It's always been the shoulders both.
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, no, just well a little bit of both. But yeah,
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: it's all cleaned up. How'd that happen?
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: Was it an acute or was it something that came
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: over p times at my shoulder?
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: The first one was just a disokayed shoulder toward labram
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: you gotta fix right away because it's like right after
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: sophomore year actually in a practice.
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: And then the other one was.
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: Just instability basically two games in last year, so basically
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: just tried to get through the year and then knew
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: once the season was over is time to dude.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: That's hard man, I mean, twenty games in you kind
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: of go Okay, I'll deal with this for the rest
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: of the season. So that had to be a hard
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: game too, you know, you go like, okay, I gotta
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: I got a wing here. That's not gonna be right.
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we had to change some of my rules.
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: You know, supposed to go off into rebound and we
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: got that one out. You know, maybe if there's a
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: fifty to fifty ball, maybe you just maybe it's not
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: worth it this.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: Time you hope to get it rather than dive to
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: get it.
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, just let's make just make it to
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: the next game instead of possession. But it was you know,
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: certainly had to pick my times to you know, be
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: aggressive and would not to be. But and you made it.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: Through the year.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you healed faster is a truth. Would you agree
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: you healed this last surgery you healed faster than you
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: were scheduled. Yeah.
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: This, uh, this one was scheduled only three months just
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: because there was a bone procedure instead.
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: Of a you know whatever labor is, a ligament, tendon, whatever, scan.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Some cartilage, whatever takes what one took.
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: Pride four to six months. But you know, hopefully that's
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: all in the past.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So when you shop the ball last year. At times,
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: did it feel a little bit wonky?
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: Uh yeah, sometimes it did not not even come close
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: because it would kind of shift on me. But you know,
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: for only some of them did go in and you know,
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: decided to just keep playing and ended up okay.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, some of them went in, he says, player of
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: the Year in the league.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: I mean it was kind of like an accepted thing,
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: like you're Devirees, We're gonna play hurt. Yeah, Uncle Jared
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: gets on the phone. He said, but we're gonna play.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: We're gonna We're gonna keep playing. I mean, it's one
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: of those deals.
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we had.
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: I think I missed one game and I think it
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: was just because there's a deadline before we had to
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: decide if we're going to shut it down or not,
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: and we were playing.
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: It was by game and we felt like we'd be
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: okay for that one.
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: So I sat that one out and we had a
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: big I think we played Nevada next and played that one.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: They were good.
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they're really good.
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: They're under he undefeated when when we played them, and
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: we did pretty well on that one and I played
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: all right, So I was I can't shut it down right,
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: Let him.
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: Go, we're gonna finish this thing.
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: So I'm glad I did, and you know, if not,
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: might not be here.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, everything works out amazing, So it feels good now,
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: stroke feels good. Yeah.
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: When did you identify.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: By the way, he had twenty seven in that game Nevadas?
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: You say that was more than.
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: Five or six?
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: So, like, are one of our assistants? Corey was on staff,
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: So I bring it up quite a bit.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's true. He is.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so you're on a tuck five.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was on the Nevada staff. Yeah.
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's that's one I'll remember bring up.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I felt a little bad for your dad last
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: week because when they honored the Elite eight team here
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: obviously he was at Creighton at that time, and they
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: came close and here's here's all those dudes, like, well
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: they were talking to you guys four five. That was yeah, yeah,
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: exactly right, Cleveland.
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: I was maybe a little young to remember that one.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah you were.
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: But your dad, your dad, Oh yeah, he's brought it up.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: But you know it is, how how how absolutely ironic
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: is it that your dad For those that don't, I mean,
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: his dad is an assistant at Craton at the time,
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: obviously West Virginia Creighton just go down out of the
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: final shot in that NCAA tournament game. And now twenty
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: years later, how weird is this? Twenty years later, Darren
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Devrees is the coach at West Virginia and that team
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: that beat him, right or beat Crayton comes back into
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: the building where he's now the coach and speaks to
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: you guys as a team and him you as your son,
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: as his son. It's kind of wild. Then here's John
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: b Line, the guy that was the coach, and they
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: talk to you guys to fire you guys up obviously
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: for this coming season. Yeah.
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: No, it was really cool to get to, you know,
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: talk to all them and you know, hear their stories,
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: and I think it's even more special to see that
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: they all still stay in touch and are able to,
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: you know, come back and experience it together again. And
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: you know, hopefully twenty years from now we're able to
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: you know, still stay in touch and be as close
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: as angus and you know, no matter how it ends,
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: you try and keep those relationships, you know, forever.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: Those guys are the definition of a team.
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: So not the single most athletic group, but perhaps one
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: of the most skilled groups. They just knew how to play.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: John just really taught him how to play basketball, and
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: they would beat teams that were more athletic and they
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: would cut him up, and the other team that's more
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: athletics looking around, going like, how is this happening? Have
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: no idea? What they're no idea?
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: That's the most fun way to play.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: Your dad, Your dad has a lot of that in
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: it that that's one of the messages to you guys, right,
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: is how to play and be connected, and be tough
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: and all those intangible things, team defense together, get out
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: and run in transition. He's a stickler for those things,
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: isn't he.
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah he is.
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: He's uh, you know, almost perfectionists. Yeah, but you know,
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: everybody's got to be on the same page and competing
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: at a really high level. And he'll he'll tell you
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: no matter what we draw up or you know, what
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: game plan we have, it's not going to work if
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: we're not you know, all the same page and you know,
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: competing at a high level.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: That's the beauty of the game. I mean, that's the
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: the beauty of the game is to get five guys
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: doing the same thing. In perfect synchronous of you know,
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: like when you set when you run a half court
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: set and everyone does their thing and like the screen
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: is set, someone fades back, someone pulls it, got option,
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Like that's the beauty of the game.
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Right, we often talk about how hard it is in
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: football to successfully run a play because eleven dudes have
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: to do the right thing and if one guy doesn't,
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: the thing can get crumbled and the fanls sit in
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: the stands and go like that was terrible play. Why
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: would you call that? Well, it's because all this good
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: dude had to do is come over there and seal
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: that guy and that thing is gone. But instead you
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: don't see it right. And in basketball, the fun about
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: basketball to me is it happens so frequently and so fast. Yeah,
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: that's what makes it go as a whole. It's a
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: whole different deal.
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think especially in basketball, like the communication it's
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: just so important because you know, we don't get a
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: time out every every possession to you know kind of see,
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: so you got to you got to kind of like
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: just read each other's minds and it's part of just
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: playing together so much, you know, to kind of know
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: exactly where everybody's at, and uh, you know what what
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: you're supposed to be doing.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, which makes it, which is what you guys are
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: going through right now. So you've got a bunch of
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: guys that have not played together, and so you're trying
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: to do this an extremely quick amount of time, trying
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: to get it. It's difficult to move mother nature and
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: time right, so your repetition base has to be like
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: really really heavy loaded right now and to get any
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: kind of a chance that you're going to get in
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: a rhythm.
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean last year, our our group last year
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: was kind of in the exact same position at Drake.
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: We had one returning or two routreating starters our center
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: and then I was out basically until this week. Last
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: year was my first week back, and everybody else is new.
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: So we're honestly probably even a little further ahead of
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: as far as like chemistry and knowing how to play
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: together than we were last year. We had we could
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: barely get through drills last year, and then I got
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: thrown the mix like right about now, right as they
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: had kind of started to figure out how to play together.
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: And then you know, this year, everybody we were healthier,
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: a little earlier and able to you know, go to
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: Italy and play together, which really helped. And you know,
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: I think we've made a lot of strides since that
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: trip as far as you know, chemistry and figuring out
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: how to play together.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's interesting.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: So you did a little bit of this role last year,
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: and by that I don't mean the playing stuff. I
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: mean like the additional coach on the floor. You do
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: a lot of coaching with guys or explaining to guys
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: or make sure you do this. That's so that's something
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: you've done for the last couple of years. Obviously, you
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: know the system as well as as anybody. You've been
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: around it and you've been in it and you understand
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: what your dad's trying to get through there. But you've
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: seemed to take that role pretty seriously of helping the
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: other guys in everything on floor.
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: I think this year especially, you know, it was just
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: my dad and Nick originally from Drake, and really as
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: good as our assistants are, they just didn't know my
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: dad's system as well right away. And you know, I
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: was one of those guys that just knew it and
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: was able to, you know, help you know, facilitate guys
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: and tell them where to be or what he's looking for.
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: And then I also say, with how many new guys
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: and you know, new new coaches we have. There's also
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: been a lot of like great new ideas to you know,
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: kind of bounce off of each other and expand on
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: what we already have and you know, be a little
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: more creative. It's been, it's been really nice.
• 27:28
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• 27:33
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• 27:36
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• 27:38
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• 27:41
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• 27:43
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• 27:46
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• 28:21
  Speaker 2: go back in time. You start bouncing that orange ball.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: What's the earliest recollection you have? Are you five? Are
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: you six years old? Or what are you seven? When
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: you start going like I like this.
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: I remember my kindergarten league. There was a first and
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: second grade league, and I convinced my parents to let
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: me play in it.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Played up, played up in kindergarten one age group, but
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: I remember because they're where I started playing. There was
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: four big courts and then there's like one half court,
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: but you played like sidelines, sideline on the.
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: Sall hoops, and I was so mad I couldn't play
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: on the big court. I just remember, you know, finally
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: talking him into it, like I want to go to
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: the big court.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: So he played up in kindergarten. Sure, okay, that's a
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: good start. That's a good start. Were you one of
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: those kids that would go to your dad's practice, Like,
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: did you hang out in Creighton's gym? Yeah? I did
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: quite about what age where you're like, are you still just.
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: A little probably before that, Yeah, it was.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: So you're the kid during the timeouts and things like
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: that would run around on the floor and do that
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: stuff and breaks and things that.
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: Now during the games, I I would my dad would
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: keep me up in the stands. So it's messing around
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: too much, but you know, practice and stuff. I'm sure
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: I was running around acting a fool. But yeah, you know,
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: it was great experience that not everybody gets to be
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: around and you know, grow up in. And I was
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: very fortunate and grateful for that, and you know, definitely helped,
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: especially as I got older, you know, being around it
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: and being able to see some of the highest level
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: of basketball and be around some of the great basketball
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: minds that we're there.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a huge part of it. I think,
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: whether it's a sport or whatever, it is, when people
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: are given access to see someone doing something at an
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: extremely high level and they can basically model that, it
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: takes them so far ahead so quick, right, So you're
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: looking at it and going like, okay, college players do this,
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: college players do this. It makes you just go if
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: it was an instrument and you watch one of the
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: greats that are performing an instrument. You're going like, okay,
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: they're doing this, and it increases your growth so fast.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: When did you have an idea that you were going
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: to be able to be more than just a regular guy,
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: a really good player. Where you is this sixth seventh
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: grade where you're going like, I'm starting to starting to
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: deal on people or.
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: It's actually kind of a funny story.
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: I'd say growing up, I was just kind of bigger,
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: and I was decent growing growing up when I was younger,
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: and then probably about middle school, it balanced itself back out.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: And then my.
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: Dad had a few talks to me about if you
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: wantn't really be good, he sprite start start doing something
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: about it, because you aren't very good.
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: I was like, okay, wait.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: A second, Okay, so I thought you were going size
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: that were you? He's saying skill, Yeah, just kind of everything.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: And you know, it wasn't very athletic still.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: But you had size in middle school at that point
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: or no.
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: Middle school I did. I wasn't crazy big, but I was.
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: I was bigger than most and then uh, freshman year,
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: it's when I really started to work out, and you know,
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: freshman to sophomore year and I was really only six
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: two six ' three.
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: Around that time.
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: And you know, and he'll tell some of the other
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: guys like, I hope he's good enough to walk on
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: or you know, try and you know, go detwo or.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Maybe ward, maybe word work down three school, something like
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: play somewhere.
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: And yeah, and then probably my junior years when it
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: started to take off a little bit, and you know,
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: some of the bigger schools called.
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: He was really confused. I guess he didn't quite see
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: the potential that they saw.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: But had you spurted at that point my.
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: Junior year is about when it I went from probably
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: six four to six six to six seven. So that helped,
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: you know, athleticism got a little better. But you know,
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: glad it worked out because that he thinks I'm not terrible.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: Now, yeah, he probably doesn't. He probably don't think you're terrible.
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: So see, that's encouraging for late bloomers. We talked about
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: it all the time, right, so much with the travel
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: ball and stuff. Now, some kids get turned off on
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: that when they're young. That's a great example of like
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: there needs to be for guys. There's some late bloomers
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: that come along here.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: Well, we talk a lot about this, like people sometimes
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: people think that you've reached how good you're going to become,
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: like while you're still here. And then we see guys
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: that leave here and they get better. Why, well, because
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: now they're getting a different look they're getting they're doing
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: it every single day at a higher level, and all
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: of a sudden, Hey, guess what, he's better now. Well, yeah,
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: he's better now. Because it's like anything else, the more
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: you do it, the better you get.
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, exactly.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: It doesn't stop. It doesn't stop the day your college
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: experience is over. But that's okay. So are you working
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: out in the weight room at Creighton growing up or
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: are you doing the high school thing? Like what is
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: your level of seeing the big boys?
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: Honestly, I would just go to practice or you know,
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: go to the facility, and he would just sit up
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: in the office. I don't even think he knew where
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: I was half the half a day, right, as long
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: as I wasn't causing a ruckus, he didn't really care.
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: But I had a few some of the other coaches
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: had some kids my age that we would go and
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: just you know, shoot around the gym, and watch practice
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: and you know, just being around it every day was
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: really cool, especially you know some of the teams they
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: had with Doug McDermott. And that's probably my when I
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: really started remembering things, and you know, I probably took
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: it for granted at that time, but looking back out
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: how special he was. And then you know when they
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: went to the Big East and some of the teams
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: they had that uh, you know, made the tournament and
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: it was really cool to be around and see it.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah with Mcdurhmy, you're watching an NBA guy.
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah right, No, he's pretty good.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's pretty good. So when is the first recollection
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: you have of playing open gym against college dudes?
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: I was not ready at all.
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: My buddy who's he was probably a little more ready
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: for me, but we were on the same team, same age,
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: and they had nine guys.
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: We just alternated. He was more ready for it than
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: I was at that time. This is probably I don't know,
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: eighth ninth grade and I don't.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: Know that young. Okay, Yeah, you weren't ready.
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: No, I don't even know if it was the team,
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: it might have been just guys the older Yeah, like coaching,
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: I don't remember what it was. But I remember being
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: not ready, like wow, and.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: Your eyes opened up and you went, what in the
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: world is this?
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought it was really bad.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, eah, that happens, But you.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: Must have still loved it. Right When did you start
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: loving the game? Because you can't work as hard as
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: you've worked to get where you are without life.
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: Probably my freshman year really just kind of fell in
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: love with just going to the gym every day and
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: like actually working on not just going in and chucking
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: up a few shots and laughing around. But you know,
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: when you start to see improvements, I feel like that's
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: when I started to fall in love with it. And
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: you know, especially when you're at that time, you feel
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: like high school was such a high level and you know,
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: being being a part of it was you know, really
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: cool at the time. So you know, just wanting to
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: be good enough to play play high school and then yeah,
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: then the next steps you want to be a good
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: high school player, then you want to try and be
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: good enough to be a college player, and just taking
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: it one step at a time to try and get
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: better and better. And you know, that's kind of when
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: I really fell in love with it.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: Does it ever I'm wondering this. So this is this
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: is before your dad ever becomes a head coach. Did
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: you ever assume he was going to become a head coach?
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Did you ever like did that ever? Did you ever
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: think about that at that time, because eighteen years as
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: an assistant at one place is unheard of.
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean there's probably four or five opportunities that
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: I remember way before Drake's because I think he got
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: the Drake job. It was his third third time trying
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: to get the Drake job. Wow, when you finally got it.
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: So I think it was like a four or five
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: years from the first time to to the next time.
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: And then there was some other you know, uh like
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: something the league schools that you know, he had thought about,
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: and so it kind of crossed my mind, but I
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: guess it never really sank in. Then it was a
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: real possibility. And then one day he said we're leaving,
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: and I was like, well, okay, we haven't done that before.
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: But you know, it was then kind of flipped quick that.
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: You know, it's at that time thought it was probably
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: more my level and sophomore year, and you know, my
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: goal was to try and make it to that level
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: and you know, see where see where it took me.
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: So let's let's talk about that conversation. Because we just
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: mentioned the two thousand and five team here, so we've
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: weave in this fan base has seen a successful father
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: son tandem on the sidelines. What were the discussions in
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: your house when it came time to go to Drake
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: to not go to Drake? What were the early What
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: was your initial reaction, I'm going to play for Dad,
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: good bad, Like, I don't know how this is gonna work.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: How was that?
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: Well? Yeah, he he never really brought it up.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: I don't know if he felt like, you know, just didn't.
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: I don't think he wanted to tell me what to do.
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: I think he certainly wanted to leave it up to me.
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: But I think he did feel a little awkward because
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: during COVID so it was all like zoom calls. I
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: remember we had like a visit with Iowa stay over
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: zoom and he was on the phone. Audio wouldn't work,
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: and so Prome at the time was at Iowa State
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: and he was texting my dad.
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sure the audio doesn't work.
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: It's like, but he thought sabotage to get you to drink.
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: No, it was he was different. I think he was.
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: I don't know how he I think he was probably
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: maybe a little nervous, just you know, me growing up
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: at Creighton and you know what they had at the time.
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: But yeah, one day at the golf course. I don't
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: know why I decided that day. He didn't really think
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: about the night before. I finally, hey, I'm come, Drake,
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: that's all right. I think we might even stopped after
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: nine because he was he was excited, and but yeah,
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: there wasn't much thought to it.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: I guess he didn't. He didn't squeeze at all. Then no,
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: to do it.
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: No, I think Creighton kind of gave me like a
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: week and that's kind of when I was just like,
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: all right, what am I waiting for?
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: And then that was it.
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: Did you have any hesitation though about just the dynamic
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: of playing for your dad or No? Obviously not because
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: you went well.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: No, he had.
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: He had like been on the sideline one time when
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: I was younger and it did not go well.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: So what do you mean by that?
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: It was a rough car ride home. I'm he he.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: Was coaching like an AAU team or something.
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: We were young. It wasn't even au. It was I
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: can't remember exactly.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: And he was working the sidelines like maybe a.
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: Younger, yeah, younger, I think he was just coach wasn't there,
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: and it was like a parent parent.
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: I asked him to like, hey, help a little bit,
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: like yeah, But after the game he drove home. It
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: was not a good car ride. He's apologized and said, yeah,
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: I'll probably never coach you again, but you are probably
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: don't know how many games I played one hundred and
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: fifteen games later.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: I laughed because I had a few of those. Yeah.
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: At least now if he does it, it's on national
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: television exactly.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: What's different about the coach player relationship now versus that
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: first year? Uh, you understand what he wants a lot better, right, Oh?
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, your effort.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: I've seen you in practice. You're Tony and I have
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: talked about this. Your effort and doing things to the
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: max is as good as there is on the team.
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: It's not like you're saying, my dad's good, I'm not
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: going to go hard here. So you kind of set
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: the tone for everybody. Has it always been that way?
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: I think you know, I know what he really values
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: and it's guys are willing to kind of do whatever
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: it takes to try and win. And I think my
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: freshman year that was kind of just my main focus
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: of you know, I honestly came into Drake. We had
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: three or they were coming off in nineteen and oh
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: start the year before NCAA tournament at large NCAA Tournament
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: Drake and had three or four guys in my position
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: that it started all conference. So I came in thinking
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: I was red shirting and then so I was just
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: trying to go out there and do whatever I could
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: to try and get on the floor. And then come
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: probably two weeks before the season, he kind of told like,
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: you you're you're gonna be playing quite a bit, so
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: as I but then you know, as as a season
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: gones on, you just get more comfortable. I think at
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: first I just didn't want to like let him down.
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: You know, it's still there a little bit like obviously
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: you want to succeed for him, but as you should
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: for any coach. But you know, it's it's it's more
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: now of like you know, just understanding like what we're
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: going through and it's basketball at the end of day,
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: and just leaving it all out there to you know,
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: try try and make him proud and you know, do
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: the best we can as a team to to get
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: what we.
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: Need to get done.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: He probably so, I think the answer to your question,
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: he probably he trusts you now more. Yeah, as time
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: has gone, he's earned your trusts you. You trust him,
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: he trusts you, he says, Okay, I got it.
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's more of an understanding.
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: I think, you know, you know, if I had a
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: bad game my freshman year, I feel really bad. I
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: still feel bad. But it's it's I mean, it's basketball.
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: It's kind of the understanding like it's going to happen.
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: But uh, you know, freshman immaturity probably a little a
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: little more scared.
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: And but this is just the reason I'm asking m.
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: That's not There's a lot of people listening that have
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: coached their kids through different levels of sport, not very
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: few that are on this stage. But that's a hard dynamic,
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: right for the for the parent and for the child
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: on how much do you push the kid versus the
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: other kids? How much can I give my kid versus
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: somebody else? Too hard versus too easy? So I just
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: think it's a it's an amazing dynamic that you guys
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: not only coexist but have thrived in that role for
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: both parts of you, and you seem to react very
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: well and interact very well with each other.
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he from day one, he's tried to
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: treat me like like it's anybody else, you know, And
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: as a freshman he was he was a lot harder
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: on me than I mean he is now. I mean
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: that's just kind of typically how it goes, like he'll
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: get on us as as seniors, but you know, as
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: seniors you have a little more understanding of, you know,
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: what to expect, and guys that have been with him
• 42:30
  Speaker 5: for a couple of years at Drake are probably gonna,
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: you know, get a little more than you know, guys
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: that are showing up trying to fix those, you know, habits.
• 42:37
  Speaker 5: But this year, with so many new guys, it's just everybody,
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: we're all He's hard on everybody. We're trying to set
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: the standard, which is probably a little different than what
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: we've had in the past throughout my career because over
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: the years we've been so old and you know, everybody
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: was kind of knew his his standards. But you know,
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: you can even tell as as time's gone on here, Uh,
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: you know need work understanding those standards as a team
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: and you know, starting to play play play to those expectations.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're they're understanding those new standards. Nine nine nine
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: seconds nine nine seconds nine that kind of they'll teach
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: you a little bit, won't it. Yeah, let's talk about
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: the number nine. What's number nine mean to you?
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: And you messed up? Somebody did?
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: You don't need to He doesn't even miss a beat.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, I've never seen a guy explain that.
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: So when when somebody does something he doesn't like, he'll
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: just say nine nine and you get on the line
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: and you got to run down and back. It seems
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: got to get there nine side.
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: And it's typically more like effort or disciplinary like just
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: you know, jumping on a pump fake or you know,
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: not sprinting hard enough.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: We're not communicating, looking, not talking Like I saw him
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: reel off like it was about I mean, I've never
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: seen it before. Like I've seen coaches screaming yell at players, right,
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: but they waste like six seven minutes screaming and yelling
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: like your dude, like he just like totally like totally
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: no emotion like nine, and then as soon as you're done,
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: he goes nine, nine, and like you reel off like
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: five of those in a row, and I'm going like whoa.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: And then you start adding him up over the period
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: of like fifteen or twenty minutes. Well, they you just
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: ran like twenty five of those things.
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's came to the point where I don't even
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: ask why we're running. I kind of just assume somebody
• 44:20
  Speaker 5: I don't know, I just get out of line.
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: Just happened again. I'm sure.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: Here's what I don't know that there is a purpose
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: that because you guys need to be in shape because
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: you're gonna know my defensive intensity. You're gonna get up
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: and down the floor. So you get a little out
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: of that too. That's not just straight old school run
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: because you did something wrong. There's a method of that madness.
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: In the nine. So they're slowly starting to slow down,
• 44:39
  Speaker 5: which is good things. I mean listening, we're boxing out more.
• 44:43
  Speaker 5: I guess, yeah, turn it over as.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: Much method to the mess. Here's what I understand. So
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: you said you go there as a freshman, and you
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: got all these dudes in front of you that have
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: played a whole ton and you're thinking, well, I'm might
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: red schert am I not mistaken. You led the team
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: in scoring as a freshman. Yeah, okay, Well you went
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: from you went from I think I'm gonna red shirt,
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: and there's all these guys in front of me, and
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: you let the team of scoring.
• 45:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we had a we had a really old group,
• 45:06
  Speaker 5: but there were some injuries in there that kind of
• 45:09
  Speaker 5: just gave opportunity.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: I think me and Garrett Starts both started the year
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: on the bench for I don't know, probably there's first
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: four to.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: Five Garrett Garrett now here with as the dobo. Yeah.
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, So if you looked at us and you know,
• 45:23
  Speaker 5: I was a scrawny freshman and he's six three, really
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: skinny and honestly can't shoot it very well, and you
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: would have looked at us and said, you're two of
• 45:32
  Speaker 5: our top players. You guys are not winning very many games,
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: and somehow we found a way and rattled a couple
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: off and it had it had a really fun freshman year.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah. By the way, Tucker doesn't know this, but first
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: time as a fashion model. Tucker's appearance here on three
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: Guys before the game is provided to us by Daniel's
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: Men's store located in Morgantown and producer Austin. If you
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: want to take a tight shot there of Tucker now
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: now final looking Phil's sporting him with the what is
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: that a tire right there?
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: It's a Peter Mallar quarters in.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: That's kind of nice. Right, there's a.
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: Bunch of them. He's got a bunch of new ones
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: out there. His his West Virginia stuff is normally you
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: walk in that stort's over on the right side, kind
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: of wraps around the front. It's spilled over onto the
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: left side here a little. There is a lot of
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: cool stuff out there. The fall gear has arrived. Yeah, yeah,
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: standing over to check it out.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: Understated elegance is just the classic blue with the flying
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: WV and gold. Just nice that and a bunch more
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: thanks to fine looking Phil over at Daniels Minster. Are
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: you going to a big twelve media day? Uh?
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't know what it is.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: But you get you get fitted yet for your for
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: that event? Yeah? I haven't, Yeah, Okay.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: You will soon.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: You'll look. You look, you'll look, you'll look you look.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: You look sporty on that you want to do some numbers.
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: Center yeah, we can talk a few numbers, it says.
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: So uh so, Senator. As you all know, during hoop
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: season goes to the next level when it comes to analytics, metrics,
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: and as as someone once said, things of that's nature.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: So let's do a little numbers right now. I check
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: your numbers. I'll just go right to the numbers here.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: Let's jump into the analytics worship of the show time
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: for spreads on stats brought to us by the Conley
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: CPA Group. They do provide value beyond the numbers. Probably
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: like a probably got like a crack team of like
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: seven or eight CPAs right now trying to break down
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: Tucker's metrics and analytics.
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: They do that over there too, sometimes, I think, because
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: I know they also they get busy with other things there.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: Sure they provide full service accountancy. They'll come in, they'll
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: consult for you tax planning, preparation, audit and assurance, all
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: those things. And they can come in hybrid any kind
• 47:45
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• 47:47
  Speaker 2: can do that remotely. CFO services they can do that
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: as well. It's Conley CPA group. We're gonna play this
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: as a trivia kind of thing.
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: I've got a couple questions around.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, here you did let him.
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: He did take a peek at the secret, super secret
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: analytic profile.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: Pretty nice.
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: He did get a look at it.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: All right, go ahead, give him one.
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: What do you think your favorite spot from three was
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: last year? Where did you take the highest percentage of
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: three point shots around the arc? Which spot?
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: Last year?
• 48:23
  Speaker 5: I did not get to the corner very often. I
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: know that interesting, but that's it was a little different
• 48:31
  Speaker 5: system last year that we have. But I'm gonna guess
• 48:36
  Speaker 5: I did see it. I know where I shot better,
• 48:37
  Speaker 5: but I bet I actually took more on the other wing,
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: the right wing.
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: Close top of the key. Twenty percent of your shots
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: were from the top of the key. Okay, surprise you. No, No,
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: were you playing out front? More more on the ball
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: and yeah, ball screens, handoffs. So you just kind of
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: answer you knew where you shot best from last year?
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, left wing.
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but you've.
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: Lit it up from there the last three years. That
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: your favorite spot on the floor. I mean, you'll pull
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: up from anywhere.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 49:05
  Speaker 5: I mean, now that I know that, I'm gonna make
• 49:08
  Speaker 5: it my favorite spot.
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: Last year from the left wing?
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: Well, hell, them all a waiting for got forty.
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: The year before from that spot thirty eight percent the
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: year before as a freshman. I mean you've been thirty
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: eight plus from the left wing from three every year
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: shooting more. Find that left wing transition, get on the
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: left side and get up the floor that way.
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: Okay, I liked this.
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: Last year was interesting too. Your your three spots with
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: the most field goal attempts were straight up the middle,
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: at the rim, in the lane, and top of the
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: key three pointer.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 49:41
  Speaker 5: I think it was a lot of middle ball screens,
• 49:43
  Speaker 5: a lot of uh, you know, trying to get me
• 49:45
  Speaker 5: in the middle of the floor to get in the paint,
• 49:47
  Speaker 5: and you know, either make a play for myself work
• 49:50
  Speaker 5: for the other guys around.
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: So let's say that's an interesting point. Let's talk about
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: that a little bit because I think people need an
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: overview of your game. You can be an e lead shooter, right,
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: you're gonna you're gonna bang three, but you'll also take
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: a mid range, you'll put the ball on the floor.
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: You can distribute what four assists per game last year,
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: so you'll you'll do everything. At times, will you bring
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: it up?
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: Times, I mean this year we have.
• 50:12
  Speaker 5: You know, obviously a really good point guarden Javon that
• 50:16
  Speaker 5: you know, can make plays for other guys as well.
• 50:18
  Speaker 5: So maybe not have the ball quite quite in my
• 50:21
  Speaker 5: hands as much as last year, but being able to
• 50:23
  Speaker 5: do a little bit of both, for sure.
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: It gives you some versatility. You could also put Javon
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: off the ball if you needed to run him off screens.
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: You could still work and distribute.
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, for sure.
• 50:31
  Speaker 5: That's you know, as as a group, it's you know,
• 50:34
  Speaker 5: a lot of versatility skill wise on offense one through five.
• 50:37
  Speaker 5: So you know, I think you'll see a lot of
• 50:41
  Speaker 5: versatility on offense from all positions.
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: Tucker was ninety ninth percentile nationally in points per game
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: per forty minutes last year.
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: Quite quite efficient.
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: Ha, it's Missouri Valley Conference players.
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: And that's and that's with a tender wing, right that thing,
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: it was a tender wing he was going with there too.
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: All right. It wasn't a hundred percent.
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: It definitely had its bad times. Yeah, it had some
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: good moments.
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: Who's who's a guy? Give us an NBA guy that
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: you think Tom TOMPs are always tough? I get it,
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: But who do you think you pattern your game after
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: or would like to pattern your game after.
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: In order to translate into the NBA, or.
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: Just like currently, yeah, like who do you watch in
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: the NBA that you enjoy watching watching them play? And
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: there's a little bit of a yeah, I could see
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: myself in that in that.
• 51:28
  Speaker 5: Regard, and in no way am I am I like him,
• 51:31
  Speaker 5: but I love watching Luca and I love watching stuff. Yeah,
• 51:35
  Speaker 5: I think Steff's ability to find ways to get shots
• 51:39
  Speaker 5: is just I don't think people realize how how high
• 51:44
  Speaker 5: his motor and IQ is to get his shots off.
• 51:47
  Speaker 5: And then Luca as well, like he's not the most
• 51:50
  Speaker 5: athletic guy, but he the angles he uses and again
• 51:54
  Speaker 5: his IQ to you know, get shots and just trying
• 51:57
  Speaker 5: to take bits and pieces of of their game and
• 52:00
  Speaker 5: the way they get their shots off and able to
• 52:04
  Speaker 5: affect the game outside of just scoring is actually better.
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: Than popular offensive game. And again, I know we're not
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: saying you're you're Luca or your games where Luca is obviously,
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: but you do a lot of the I mean you
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: shoot it from all three levels. You'll pass the ball,
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: you can post up if you have an advantage there,
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: or you can step back and hit the three. So
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: there are I think there are some similarities to your
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: game stylistically. No, sure, I'll say that.
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, I see that little I see that little Uh.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: You got a little fade away. You got a little
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: Luca fade away in there too, huh.
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: And try to drop in the lane. You'll hit that right,
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: You can do all those things.
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: I try my best.
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's being too humble.
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: Those fade aways are tough to guard, as you well know,
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: how do you stop that thing?
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: Just got to go in?
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. Yeah, two different speed. Yeah? What else
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: you got?
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm just looking through this.
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: Let me ask you this in your little magic machine
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: over there, Are there any comparable players that he's similar to?
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: There is? Thanks for asking. We looked at that beforehand.
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: You know who One of the top four comps is
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: from a Big twelve conference player. And this is remember
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: this is a statistical comp This isn't what I just
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: did right there with body type and how you go
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: and what your game is like. But one of the
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: top five matches in terms of statistics taking last year's
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: stats for this player and for Tucker Javon Small.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: Oh, what interesting is that?
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: How about that Kevin mccullor from Kansas is another one. Statistically, Yeah,
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: Hunter Dickinson not too far down the list in terms.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: Of a statistical similarities. These are Dylan de Sue. Sure
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: we saw him last year when he was on he
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: was stupid.
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So those are just statistical profiles of what there's
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: a there's a wheel here that has just all the
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: different statistics on it and based on where the numbers
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: fall on the wheel, that's what your comps come out to.
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: So obviously Javon and Tucker are two different players stylistically,
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: but statistically they were similar last year. Yeah, all at
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: a really high level.
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: By the way, three guys before the game and the
• 54:03
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  Speaker 3: Can we do two more numbers?
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: Well?
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: Sure, go ahead.
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: Your assist percentage last year, so we're just talking about
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: you can do different things. You can distribute if you
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: need to. Would you be surprised to know you assisted
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: on twenty one percent of your team's baskets. It's pretty
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: high for a six to seven.
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't know this.
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: One and a half assist a turnover ratio, yeah, pretty good.
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: Good for a non point guard.
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: I turned it over. We had a nine s. How
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: you learned to not turn it over very often?
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: It works.
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: Where's that rank on the list of things don't do for?
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: Coach DeFries? Way up on the list.
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: That's one A and one b's if you don't box out.
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so don't turn it over and if you don't
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: box out, you got a problem.
• 55:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you do those two things. Enjoy your time.
• 55:59
  Speaker 5: We won't be running very much, but those two you better.
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: The offensive sets that you ran last year compared to
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: this year is how different?
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: Sets wise?
• 56:13
  Speaker 5: There's still some quite I mean quite a bit of similarities,
• 56:18
  Speaker 5: especially the ones that were put in last year for
• 56:21
  Speaker 5: me that you know a lot of those have stayed
• 56:23
  Speaker 5: the same. And then finding different ways to utilize you know,
• 56:26
  Speaker 5: guys that we have differently than what we had on
• 56:29
  Speaker 5: last year's team. You know, this year we have a
• 56:31
  Speaker 5: five man that could shoot, so you know, adding a
• 56:33
  Speaker 5: few of those in, you know, using javan, putting him
• 56:36
  Speaker 5: in the best positions possible, and then everything else is
• 56:40
  Speaker 5: outside of the sets is probably pretty similar. You know,
• 56:44
  Speaker 5: maybe in a little more like go through the five
• 56:47
  Speaker 5: for hand games because we have such a skilled five
• 56:49
  Speaker 5: man that you know, makes it so.
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: Much harder to guard.
• 56:53
  Speaker 5: You know, I remember last year, you know, when we're
• 56:54
  Speaker 5: a garden of five men that could kind of do
• 56:56
  Speaker 5: it all, it makes it hard. It's really hard to guard.
• 56:59
  Speaker 5: So being able to go through them and you know,
• 57:03
  Speaker 5: go through high split screens or you know what we
• 57:06
  Speaker 5: call blast screens or you know, with the five men
• 57:09
  Speaker 5: having the ball and getting other guys involved with the
• 57:11
  Speaker 5: five minutes.
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, pretty important for us.
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: So why don't we put your coaching hat on now,
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: give me the scout and report on your mountaineer team
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: that's getting ready to We're about well, we're less than
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: three weeks right, twenty a little bit more than three
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: weeks away from watching you guys play in your first exhibition.
• 57:28
  Speaker 5: Twenty eight practices left. I think, yeah, it happens fast,
• 57:33
  Speaker 5: but you know, I love the group. I think we
• 57:35
  Speaker 5: all fit each other very well. I think we have
• 57:39
  Speaker 5: a little bit of everything, a lot of versatility offensively
• 57:42
  Speaker 5: and defensively. You know, we were able to do a
• 57:45
  Speaker 5: lot of things, you know, with with that versatilities. I think,
• 57:52
  Speaker 5: you know, we have great point guard to Vaughan, you
• 57:54
  Speaker 5: know who's played at this level and been successful at
• 57:57
  Speaker 5: this level. And then you know guys that have been
• 57:59
  Speaker 5: on successful programs and have kind of brought those intangibles
• 58:02
  Speaker 5: with them. And then you know guys that are ready
• 58:05
  Speaker 5: to prove themselves that you know, are either coming off
• 58:07
  Speaker 5: injury or you know, coming on from you know, the
• 58:10
  Speaker 5: mid major level that are ready to prove himself at
• 58:12
  Speaker 5: this level from some of the top guys from mid major.
• 58:15
  Speaker 5: But I think you know, positional size length defensively is
• 58:19
  Speaker 5: you know, we we have a lot of positional size
• 58:21
  Speaker 5: that you know, as long as we continue to develop
• 58:24
  Speaker 5: the right habits, it'll it'll translate to being really successful.
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah. To be successful, you absolutely have to do what.
• 58:35
  Speaker 5: Fill in the blank, uh, compete really hard. That's probably
• 58:39
  Speaker 5: that's just number one. Uh, you know, and and he's
• 58:42
  Speaker 5: honest about that every every single day. That's one thing
• 58:45
  Speaker 5: that you know he'll he'll never give in on. And
• 58:48
  Speaker 5: then the other things, like I said, are you better
• 58:50
  Speaker 5: not turn it over and you better defensive rebound, which
• 58:53
  Speaker 5: you know, when we've been successful the last few years,
• 58:55
  Speaker 5: we've been you know, one or two in the conference
• 58:58
  Speaker 5: in both those statistical categories and even you know, one
• 59:01
  Speaker 5: of the best in the country.
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: Those two give me a player or two that perhaps
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: people aren't talking about yet or haven't heard a whole
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: lot about yet, that you think are going to be
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: really impactful are fives.
• 59:16
  Speaker 5: I think both both both the bigs that you know
• 59:20
  Speaker 5: we've had throughout throughout the summer have made tremendous progress
• 59:24
  Speaker 5: and are really going to surprise some people of you know,
• 59:26
  Speaker 5: what they're able to do at that position and the
• 59:30
  Speaker 5: challenges that they will give other other teams that are
• 59:34
  Speaker 5: that are trying to.
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: Go you're talking about Andre and Hansbury.
• 59:36
  Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, I think both of them completely different players,
• 59:39
  Speaker 5: but both bring things that can cause a lot of problems. Uh,
• 59:44
  Speaker 5: you know, and maybe an area that people are kind
• 59:47
  Speaker 5: of sleeping on for this team because.
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: They're hearing small teams, small teams, small team and you
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: think the five spot could be an impactful position. Yeah,
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: I do.
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: Jonathan Powell is a guy if you're looking for a
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: young guy that's really good size at the two, can
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: shoot it, but his defense and intensity has been really
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: coming along.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know he's for a freshmen.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 5: He's really confident, which is what you need if you
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 5: want to play at this level as a freshman. And
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  Speaker 5: you know, he's very coachable in a guy that is
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 5: willing to do kind of what it takes to get
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  Speaker 5: out on that floor. So I think that's somebody you'll see, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: you know, help us out this year.
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  Speaker 2: We were talking about modeling earlier as far as like
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: you look at a guy and say, okay, this is
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  Speaker 2: what it takes. I think Jonathan Powell needs to model
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  Speaker 2: after you guys, and you can make him better quicker
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  Speaker 2: if he's seen how you guys are doing it, because
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  Speaker 2: I do think like obviously he's got the size right,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: he can shoot it. So the question for him is
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: how long will it take him to adjust to the
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: mental and the physical toughness of what this is going
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  Speaker 2: to be.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think kind of every freshman has to
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  Speaker 5: go to it. I mean I remember going through it
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 5: of you know, you're gonna have some wow moments, especially
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 5: as a freshman, especially in this league. But I know
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  Speaker 5: he he like I said, he's he's a confident guy
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  Speaker 5: and I have full confidence in him that he's going
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 5: to be very very successful player in the future and
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 5: if if not this year.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, another guy that looks the part is going to
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  Speaker 3: be super important as Toby Toby Ocanni looks like a
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  Speaker 3: big twelve player, size, length, really good athleticism, is going
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  Speaker 3: to guard one of the best players on the other
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  Speaker 3: team every night, So offensively and defensively, Toby's going to
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: be a huge key to this season.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, he's another guy, fifth fifth year senior that's
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 5: played a lot of basketball and you know physical tools
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  Speaker 5: are you know, some of the best I've ever seen,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 5: six ' eight long, you know, fast athletic, you know,
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  Speaker 5: can jump and shoot, can pass, can kind of do
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  Speaker 5: a little bit of everything, and can can really be
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  Speaker 5: that guy that can can kind of do it all
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  Speaker 5: for us. But I think he's made another guy that's
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 5: made a lot of progress throughout the year or throughout
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  Speaker 5: the summer. And you know a guy that you I
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 5: think people are going to really see, you know, come
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  Speaker 5: through and be a big, big part of this team.
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  Speaker 2: Like those Santa boots they made last year for Christmas.
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  Speaker 3: similar to.
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  Speaker 2: That favorite candy kit Cat see kit Cat.
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  Speaker 3: The candies influenced him.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, you go to this go Maart. Unbelievable they
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if it's in the diet. I mean
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  Speaker 4: I don't know coach rying.
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  Speaker 3: You got you gotta one.
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  Speaker 2: They're so big they got two people to sign inside
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  Speaker 3: Favorite food when it's not a kit Cat steak?
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: How is it done at what media that will challenge him?
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: Nebraska, Iowa guy, he knows how to do steak.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: Now, you know. We were talking about this the other
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: night in the show Basketball Players. They don't understand. They
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: get you. They ask for it to be like Charred.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: It's the wrong way to do it. I want you
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: to take initiative on your rest your teammates when they
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: say I want it well done. So we're not doing
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: it well done. We're doing it at worst, we're gonna
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: do it medium. We'd like to get you to medium rare,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: but we'll just do it Meia.
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  Speaker 3: That's side to go with a steak.
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  Speaker 4: Uh, some sort of potatoes, probably.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: Potatoes you went all grotten or not baked or or I.
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  Speaker 4: Was gonna I was gonna say mashed potatoes with corn.
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  Speaker 4: That's that's an Iowa one.
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  Speaker 2: How good? How good of a cook is your mom?
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 4: She's pretty good?
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: Pretty good? What's her special like? If you're going to
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: say one thing? Mom getting me make me?
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 5: My favorite is the honey mustard chicken. Oh yeah, that's good,
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 5: my personal favorite.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: But she did it on on breast on chicken breast, Yeah,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: very good. What about your dad? I would seem to
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: me he wouldn't be a real picky eater. He's like
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: the guy that gets up there and goes, what do
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: we got?
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 5: Uh yeah, yeah, hell yeah. He's kind of a convenience
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 5: heater to be honest.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: What does that mean?
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 4: Frozen pizzas?
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: You know what before when he came here, before everyone
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: got here, that's what he said. He said, dude, I'm
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: just killing myself around these frozen pizzas.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 4: Well.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: He was at the one of those hotels that has
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: those heater and there's something some kind of an oven
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: something like that. Probably really happy to see you guys.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: You guys are finally you're all here, right, so finally
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: it's here. Pretty nice view over at the house. Huh.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a nice view.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 5: It's pretty cool, especially go there at night and see sunset.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's pretty stuff. All right, man, we're good.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: Do you have fun? Yeah? Yeah, I mean, as you
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: well know, all of our questions are in advance prepared
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  Speaker 2: thing's going to happen fast man. This Charleston game, the
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  Speaker 2: sex Phibition.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, this is this is the earliest I've had an
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  Speaker 5: exhibition my career.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know it's crazy early.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 5: It's really early, but you know, I think it'll actually
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 5: be It's kind of nice that you'll get to play
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 5: somebody else and you have time to kind of see
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 5: where you're at, to you know, fix some things that
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 5: you know, every year the first couple of games, you're
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 5: you're gonna have something that're like, maybe well we probably
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 5: weren't as good in that area as we thought we were.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 5: To have the time to kind of address that, and
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 5: it would be pretty nice.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: So you have Yeah, so you play the exhibition on
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: the eighteenth. Then you have seventeen days before you play
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: Robert Morris. Around here, we just call him Bobby Mo.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: Robert Morris, Bobby Mo.
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  Speaker 4: They're close by, right y.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the Pittsburgh Report, Yeah, right up there. And then
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: four days later you mass. I know those guys out
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: physicaled us last year, kind of pissed me off. We
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: went up there, played them in Springfield, kind of pissed
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: me off. They bullied us. So let's not have that happen.
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  Speaker 4: That's that's the plan.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's not have that happen. You know, it's Frank
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: Martin's team. They like they coached a well coach, and
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: they're like, go and play. They're going to take his personality.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: So you got to come in here and don't take that,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: and then you'll be in for a little treat up
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: at pitt Yeah. On November fifteenth, they're feeling their oats
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: and they're gonna they're gonna be bouncy iona here and
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: it's already the twentieth of November, and then things get
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: really really, really really real. Go to the Bahamas. There's
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: a squad there called Gonzaga. There's all of those teams.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: I think they're out of Spokane, Washing, isn't what the
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: little game? Yeah, sure, out of there. I guess they're
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: gonna be joining the PAC.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: Twelve one time, gonna be a big twelve member.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: But they're not.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: They are actually the PAC twelve commissioning a good job
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: getting a regional school in there.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: Stunning, stunning announcement that the Gonzaga is going to stay
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: on the West Coast. Whatever I thought of.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: That West Coast school joined the West Coast Conference. Imagine that.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, apparently because Taiwan was unavailable. Meanwhile, Indiana or Louisville
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: a couple of brand names in the game. And then
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: in some form or formation, the other teams in the Bahamas, Arizona,
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: UH Davidson, Oklahoma and Providence.
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  Speaker 3: That's a fun field.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 4: It's a good one.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: As a player, what does that make you do?
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 4: Go like, yeah, I'm glad I'm not the coach.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: And then off we go Georgetown here. That'll be super nice.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: That'll be that's a Friday night. That's a good one.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: And then some non conference buy ins n C Central,
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: the Thune Cookman, Mercyhurst and then one of these months
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: they'll finally announce the league schedule. I mean, we know who,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: but we don't know when. And we'll get that all
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: figured out. Gonna happen fast man.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: Hey, Reokie, are you done with Law School Hill?
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 4: Now? I sure hope?
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: So how was that for you?
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 5: I don't know what the definition of a hill and
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 5: a mountain is, but it's gotta be somewhere in between.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 4: It's up there.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: So you dispute law school hill. You think it should
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: be Law School mountain.
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  Speaker 4: It's a hill. It's a big one.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: It's what'd you think of that first time? Like had
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: so you came over for football, had just seen it?
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: Or did does it just one of those that, Hey
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: we're going over the football stadium, we're gonna run, we're
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: gonna do some stuff, did you know?
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 5: So we ran a hill downtown to Moine and it
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 5: was it was a good hill. It was you know,
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 5: it was tough, it was good one in our strength.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 5: Coach and he even thought it was that was a
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 5: pretty good one to Moine. And then when he got here,
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 5: he's like, I got a hill.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 4: For you here.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 5: It's like okay, yeah, great, and I went to the
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 5: football game. I think it was a Penn State game.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 5: We were up on top. I didn't know that was
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 5: Law School Hill, and then we walked down the stairs
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 5: and just that was downstairs going down. We all we
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 5: did was go down and then we showed up. He
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 5: sent the address for the conditioning.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 4: I looked up. That's gonna be.
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  Speaker 2: You guys were the first ever. I've seen people run
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: up it. I've seen people come down it. I've seen
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: people run four. I've seen people come down backwards. You
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: guys are the first ever to do defensive slides. Yeah,
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: we'll get you.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: That's a challenge.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, No, we definitely improved though.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 5: We did it both times, and strategy made from week
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 5: one to week two is Yeah, it was, and I
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 5: think it was good for the team, you know, and
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 5: need some tough days in there, and that was one of.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: Theulte Where do you think your physical condition is right
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: now compared to word's been in the past.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 5: Uh, For me personally, it's it's probably the best. It's
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 5: just you know, last year, I was just so out
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 5: of shape last year because I didn't get to never practice. Really,
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 5: it was like one or two reps get out just
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 5: because of the shoulder, but now being able to kind
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 5: of do everything and you know, making an emphasis on
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 5: you know, getting back to those those habits now that
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 5: I can, and you know, I feel like conditioning wise
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 5: and strength wise is probably probably the best it's been.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: That's great team wise too, working up to it.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, no, i'd say, And we were even talking to
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 5: some of the guys like compared to like where their
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 5: teams were at, like we're I think shape wise, it's
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 5: it's up there ahead a pace. We're actually pretty head
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 5: of schedule, which which is good. Then it's just you know,
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 5: getting in game shape, which no matter how in shape
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 5: you are, there's not a team in the country that's
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 5: in game shape one. So you know that's kind of
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 5: the next step to try and be as prepared as
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 5: possible for that because you know, I don't think I've
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 5: gone through a first game of my entire college career
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 5: without cramping. So I'm really going to bank on it
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 5: happening and do everything possible to prevent it.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 4: But you know, we'll get our best shot.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: You watch, are you a big GPS guys, So you
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: guys have the bands on, you're getting your information during practice? Yeah, Yeah.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, our strength coach tells me the numbers, and I'd
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 5: just say that sounds good?
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 4: Is that bad? This one's this one's great.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: Some of those numbers are crazy as far as like
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: resting heart rates, what you guys get down to and
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: then when they get up to and so it's yeah, yeah.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 4: That's up for them to tell me what it's good
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 4: and bad.
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  Speaker 2: I just until just put it in the hole. Just
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  Speaker 2: very much.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you, thanks for having me a lot of fun.
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