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- 0:00OK, we are doing heljas, guerras, conversions.
- 0:03We are continuing race some we're continuing with bet.
- 0:07Just want to point out from the from the the Rambam that he
- 0:10points out, I don't think it's here that we learned our three
- 0:14main procedures that we do are rituals that were Khayev to do.
- 0:18It's miakave. Well, two out of the three are
- 0:21miakave who said there's Mila Tavila and then the Qurban.
- 0:25So he just points out that that's also the same process
- 0:29that the Jews did when they left Mitzrayim and became Kilo
- 0:33converted to a Kurdish bar. Whose nation, right.
- 0:36They did the Mila on the way out in Mitzrayim.
- 0:39Then they did the Tavila in the midbar and that's that's what's
- 0:43alluded to when when the Pasak says mikidashtam hayam mahib
- 0:48sushi motam, that's going to the mikvah.
- 0:50And over there it also says via alu olot and they brought the
- 0:55korban korban Ola and so too ladorot is the for future
- 0:59generations. That's the same process.
- 1:01We just finished Hilchos Vadim. So he had mentions over there
- 1:05also this is eni surabiya yogimo.
- 1:09That's where he has Hilchat Girim and he mentions that when
- 1:12the gear goes to the mikvah, it's a Miksat gerut, whatever
- 1:16that means. It's a partial conversion.
- 1:18In other words, he's he's a Jew. He's high of the mitzvos, like
- 1:23the level of a woman, though. All right, whatever that means.
- 1:25Exactly. That's an avid an avid, an avid
- 1:28Kanani. That's I'm talking about not a
- 1:30gear, a regular gear because he is it's a partial gerut.
- 1:33It really is. I would have said it's more like
- 1:374/5. I mean mixed up could be
- 1:39anywhere in the in the in the spectrum of percentages.
- 1:42But anyways, let's go on to Allah Bays bass Keshabalihite
- 1:48gaier. OK, so now the goy shows up at
- 1:51the at the door of the rabbi, the rabbi I want to convert.
- 1:55So Omriyimlo, we tell him Maraita Shabbat elite gaier.
- 1:59What what did you see? Why what why do you want to
- 2:02convert Yaya? She said El bizman.
- 2:04I said don't you know that Jews nowadays and we certainly can
- 2:07see this, some of us can see it walking around outside, but we
- 2:12can all see it on the news and we can see the the missiles
- 2:17coming overhead. We see this nowadays.
- 2:19We are Dahufim Sahufim perush Abhuddim Sahufimimin manidoua
- 2:25niskhaf adirayek uma Torahfim V serem by Malayan.
- 2:30So we see that the Jews are pursued.
- 2:32The anti-Semitism is open, it's blatant everywhere and
- 2:38terrorists who try and murder you are praised around the world
- 2:42openly anyway. So that's and then and we see
- 2:46what we're going through. Umaturafimvi Surya by Malayan.
- 2:50So we tell him that it's in Birkayosa.
- 2:52If I have, it's quoted in the bottom of mine.
- 2:53And he also quotes from Musakat Girim.
- 2:57And you point there, they also say the koverim, the same idea.
- 3:00They also adds the words the koverim Bani mubini Bani.
- 3:03And we have to unfortunately bury our own children.
- 3:06And that's what we have to deal with nowadays too.
- 3:08And and the Jew has to be willing to die for the Mila and
- 3:12the tavila and all the mitzvahs. So that's part of pointing that
- 3:16out to him. Imamiudiyani veni kadali khaber
- 3:19imahem makabli notomiyat. So then if he says I know that
- 3:25and I still want to be Jewish because I know how great it is
- 3:28to be Jewish connection to Kurish Baraku, your kedusha,
- 3:32your Ola Mahaba, I want to, I want to be 1 of you.
- 3:35So then we accept them right away.
- 3:37We don't stall the modeno tell ikre nowadays, obviously it's a
- 3:40little bit different. We do stall.
- 3:42We want to make sure a little bit of a vetting process,
- 3:45educational process, and we want to make sure he's going to join
- 3:49a Jewish community and he's sincere and serious and it's
- 3:51going to work. We want to make sure as we're
- 3:54going to, we're going to keep seeing.
- 3:55We'll see in a moment a bit more about this Boumodino tell Ikreya
- 4:00Dutch who yuko dashem and we must tell him the Basden must
- 4:05inform him basics foundations of Judaism of what it means to be a
- 4:11Jewish who yuko dashem that Hashem is 1 obviously believe in
- 4:15Hashem. He's a boreolum creator, the
- 4:18isser of Voda Vadizar, and we have to and against the Vadizar.
- 4:22You can't have two gods, can have Christianity.
- 4:25You can't do any of these things.
- 4:28Mahariti and Imabeda Varze and we do Maharit.
- 4:34We do spend some time explaining this.
- 4:37Then Umodin Otto, let me point out.
- 4:41Then we tell him mitzvahs, Carlos Submitza, submitzvos,
- 4:47Camaros, let me give him a sampling of the mitzvos, the
- 4:51halachos. We give him some basic ones,
- 4:55some he points on the bottom, like lighting candles or the GRA
- 4:59mentions Lekhit Shekhar peya. It's also from the gomara there,
- 5:03but he says maybe the Shokanar left it out.
- 5:06It's not so common any these days.
- 5:09And now obviously it's a little more common.
- 5:11OK, so then anyways, you give them a sampling of some mitzvahs
- 5:16that are a little bit easy, maybe a little bit fun,
- 5:18whatever. And but then you have to give
- 5:20them some of the more difficult ones and with a more harsh
- 5:24punishment. Obviously the three biggest,
- 5:26you're going to tell them cautious.
- 5:28I'm saying like for people when they think about who's a Jew,
- 5:31what are the main, how do you decide if someone's from?
- 5:34So obviously there's going to be cautious Taras and Ishbacha, all
- 5:38right, Nida and Shabbas, those are for sure going to be the
- 5:40three, OK, Omodi Ino tell mitzas on Shanchil mitzvahs.
- 5:44And we have to also tell them the punishment that comes along
- 5:47with it. All right?
- 5:48It's not all easy or fun. We should we tell them, listen,
- 5:55call them Shabbat lamidaza ahalta Khalif ETA nosh kharab.
- 6:01Before you can eat any piece of meat, any piece of fat that's
- 6:05from the animal. You don't have to worry about
- 6:07anything. You don't worry about shiba.
- 6:08But the point of saying khalif is because of you didn't get
- 6:11karis if you ate it Khalil to Shabbat ETA khayya scila.
- 6:15Up until now, you could be a mahalo Shabbos, do anything you
- 6:18want, and there's no death penalty.
- 6:20There's no scila for it. Yeah, Shab.
- 6:22But now, nowadays, ahalta khalev, Atta anosh karat.
- 6:27But if you do eat khalev, you're going to get the punishment of
- 6:30karat Khalil to Shabbos. If you're a mahalo Shabbos Atta
- 6:33khayya skill, you're going to get the death penalty of skilla
- 6:36from baisden or karis Mina shamayim.
- 6:40Or at least you deserve it. Whatever it is, the aim, merabi
- 6:43and Allah. But you don't overdo it.
- 6:45You don't tell them too much about you don't give them all
- 6:47the details and all the punishments, the aim and Datuki
- 6:50and Allah, every little detail. We'll talk maybe more about this
- 6:54later about some details. Oka shame, shimodi noto
- 6:58unchencho mitzvahs, but it's got to be balanced.
- 7:03You also have to tell them that you know, there are some good
- 7:05benefits. OK, Nowadays, obviously people
- 7:08did this, a little bit of a reading list.
- 7:10Generally speaking, when you go to a basden, so you're going to
- 7:13see all this anyway. But anyways, point out some
- 7:16scarlet Modi noto Shabasiat mitzvah, and you tell them that
- 7:20when you do these mitzvahs, yiske akai olam haba, that you
- 7:24get Olamahaba for this, right? And you can talk a little bit
- 7:28about what it is if you can read up on it.
- 7:30And the real Sadiq is someone who's he knows the mitzvahs.
- 7:38He does them fine. And you tell listen, is really
- 7:46for justice Siddiqin, And that's primarily the Jews.
- 7:52Are they certainly getting much higher elevated place in olam
- 7:56haba vizesh shatira yiser al bitsar bolamazeh tobaghi sofun
- 8:02alhamshena mehuli mokago rogue toba bolamazeh.
- 8:06And he's saying, don't worry that nowadays when you see the
- 8:09Jews actually olam mafuch, it's a little bit upside down.
- 8:13We see that the Jews have the worst.
- 8:14That's really it's to save, to preserve us in in a good way and
- 8:21to save the the reward for Olam haba.
- 8:25Shamma yarum libo vidu vidya siddu shara olam haba.
- 8:30If life is too good for them here, then they'll abandoned the
- 8:33Tara. They'll the loser Olam Haba.
- 8:35So we make it so it's not so fun and not so perfect, OK and not
- 8:40so free. And they in a kadosh Baruchu,
- 8:43maybe Alayam robe Parnell, but Sham doesn't overdue the
- 8:49punishments at least most of the time today Shalaya Vedu so that
- 8:53we don't disappear right. We want he wants us to still
- 8:56stay from if we go through two difficult times.
- 9:00As we know some people they leave, they leave being from
- 9:04Alakola umat Khalim, but really all the other non Jews they are
- 9:07going to they eventually die away.
- 9:10Vahem Omdin marathin Vadavarzak de la Kababam.
- 9:13And the and the Jews that we we stay.
- 9:16We stay because he loves us. The IM Kibel.
- 9:20Now it's OK. So we gave this whole little
- 9:23introduction. We give this short reminder on
- 9:27the day of the conversion process as part of Cabela's
- 9:30Agueros is that we're going to get there soon.
- 9:35So let's keep reading. But OK, but Harka or I say IM
- 9:40Kibel. Molino told me.
- 9:41Yeah. So now the guy tells you, the
- 9:43non Jew says OK, I accept. So then we give him a brasmila
- 9:47right now U Montinian lo achi itrape or fua shlema, right.
- 9:52If you had a full breast. So you now you're going to wait
- 9:54for the wound to heal. I'm not sure if it's set for
- 9:58sanitary reasons, as we might say, but the gomars is also just
- 10:01for the healing process. So you don't want to go in the
- 10:03water. It's bad for the for the
- 10:05healing. So we you let it heal fine.
- 10:09Once it heals, it doesn't have this is not all done on the same
- 10:12day. You can have days in between,
- 10:14obviously. So now it is guantini lo achi
- 10:18yitra perafua shalima via kharka madbili noto tivila hoganet and
- 10:24then you do a proper tivila, right?
- 10:26The order is Mila then tila. But there could be days in
- 10:29between and but it must be with, you know, with all the halakhas
- 10:34in hidurium that we learnt can help us Nida khatita.
- 10:39It has to be without any barriers, you know, stuck to the
- 10:44body that's preventing the water from going there.
- 10:49It has to be a tavila, the entire body all at once.
- 10:53Agha and the Rama mentions this custom Viyesh omem Shegalaya
- 10:58Sarotav that we shave off all of his hair and his body.
- 11:03Vito siparnae yaga Veraglav called them.
- 11:07No one does this as far as I know.
- 11:09But what is? So anyways, you have to make
- 11:11sure, I don't know. We have to just make sure
- 11:13there's no hatsitsa on the entire body, the entire body
- 11:16then including the head. And that's all that's needed.
- 11:20I believe we're going to cut the nails like normal women will
- 11:23generally cut the nails and but as far as I know, no one does
- 11:27any shaving. We just make sure there's
- 11:29absolutely no no hatsitsa. Even from the shock doesn't
- 11:33sound like he's familiar with such a min hug.
- 11:36The he does quote though, shame Moshe Darshan the shame Rashi
- 11:42that means Rashi that is brought by Rashi that so this is like
- 11:48the Levine when they got their conversion process to become
- 11:52from kilo a regular Jew to the status of a levy.
- 11:57The Kedusha levy also you have it there and he does quote there
- 12:01is such a min hug by if a Jew becomes a let's say a Christian
- 12:05and then wants to be come back to Jewish.
- 12:07There is such a custom ushlosha. Now the Chalkanar continues.
- 12:13You need 3 haga Tami de khakhamim.
- 12:17You want to have not just three slouches, 3 hagiotos, just any
- 12:21three random people. You want them to be 3 Tami de
- 12:24khakhamim 3IN other words, a proper based in it.
- 12:27That's what it would translate Nowadays you have to get a, a
- 12:30recognized proper basdin. You don't just get 3 people on
- 12:33the side now. So you have this basdin Omdim al
- 12:37GABA. So they, they stand over, they
- 12:39watch this person Modin oto mitsas mitzvos Carlos and
- 12:44mitzvos, mitzvos Kamuros palm sheniya.
- 12:47So the first time was in the beginning of the process, you
- 12:51know, some place, some gearing there, some Basdin nowadays,
- 12:55like they take a full year, whatever their their parameters
- 12:59are to get them educated so they can, you know, become a proper,
- 13:04join a community properly and and stick with it.
- 13:07But anyways, in the Chalkanar we're talking about on the day,
- 13:13basically when they do the Mila, that's the first time.
- 13:17It doesn't have to obviously doesn't have to be that same
- 13:19day, but anyways, that's the first time.
- 13:21Now he's all ready to go. Did the meal, I did the mikvah.
- 13:25And now or I'm sorry, you're at the mikvah stage.
- 13:28Now you're at the mikvah stage. And now you remind them again, a
- 13:32little bit could be a little bit quicker version than what you
- 13:35did the last time. There's a little mikvah mine.
- 13:37Now he's standing in the water. OK, So while he's standing in
- 13:41the water, you review the the mitzvos, Kabala san mitzvos
- 13:44while he's there right now, this is this is the conversion,
- 13:49right? It's the Tavila and Kabala San
- 13:52mitzvos, the E Maita Isha. So and if it's a woman who's
- 13:56converting, so then Nashima, Shivot, Utah, the Mayim al
- 14:01Savara, the Dianem NI Bahuts. So how do you do it?
- 14:06So the woman's not wearing any clothing, so it's inappropriate.
- 14:09So she goes in there with women, woman, women.
- 14:13They they bring her into the water.
- 14:15Then the Dianem, the basin, they're outside.
- 14:18Well, they're outside, they're not.
- 14:20They can. They're going to talk to her,
- 14:22they're going to communicate, but they're not looking at her.
- 14:24MO de Eno tah mitzvos, Carlos. And you can see a reminder of a
- 14:28few of the easier mitzvos and the harder ones.
- 14:33And she's in the water, let's say up to her neck.
- 14:38Then they walk in and they look as she goes into the mikvah.
- 14:44Right from there they would face she'd be facing away from them
- 14:47that she would they would be looking at her back through the
- 14:49water, her head baheim maxirin pineum.
- 14:53And then as soon as she dips in the mikvah, they immediately
- 14:56walk out and then and they leave the room.
- 15:01Kadesha loyurota so that they don't see her when she gets out.
- 15:06Ian Varek al that Savila akarshi alamina Mayan.
- 15:09So now whether it's a man or woman, after they get out, after
- 15:13the conversion is completely over, right?
- 15:15It's a once they dump once into the water, now they're 100%
- 15:19converted. There's no way.
- 15:21There's no going back. And now they can say the brafa.
- 15:24You can say the Brafa al had Tavila before because they're
- 15:27not Jewish. And this is the paradigm, the
- 15:30one source in all of the Gemara al Shahs where it talks about
- 15:34you do the bracha afterwards, even though it's an Auverla
- 15:38Siatan, it all comes from here. OK, If you learn Nida from here,
- 15:42it's mahokas. If you learn Nithya Shidayan,
- 15:45it's from here. It's all of mahokas and we
- 15:47shown, but it's all this is the this is the case.
- 15:49The Cave on Chitava. Now once she goes into the
- 15:52Mecca, he Hariyuki Israel, he's 100% Jewish Shiim Khazar Lisuro
- 15:59a minute after he gets out of the mikvah, he says, you know
- 16:02what, what did I just do? I'm crazy.
- 16:05I'm going to go eat a hamburger. I'm going to go with with with
- 16:07my girlfriends. I used to know and whatever I
- 16:09want to do, I'm going to whatever.
- 16:12So then Hariyuki Israel, Muammar, he's 100% Jewish.
- 16:18Look, hold over in Kidesh. And now if he goes gets married
- 16:23Ki dusha of Ki dushin, that woman is married to him 100% and
- 16:27she's stuck. She can't marry anybody else.
- 16:31OK, what's commonly done with women nowadays?
- 16:36I didn't do a full survey, but I do know that it's very common
- 16:41that going to get to the concept of we mention that you need 3.
- 16:48So because the pasta calls regarding agaires mishbat, ekhad
- 16:53ye lachen, it's a mishbat. And so a mishbat needs 3.
- 16:58Anytime you give a judgement, it needs 3.
- 17:00So in order to make a conversion happen, there must be the
- 17:04acquirement of three. I don't think we discussed, I
- 17:07think we're about to get to it. Yeah, we're about to get to it
- 17:10that it needs to have. That's the next that you need to
- 17:13have three and you need to have well see, during the day,
- 17:16whatever. OK, 3 sure.
- 17:18What was I going to get to? So what do we do for a woman?
- 17:23So there are two options. I'm going to get to name on us
- 17:27and aid us in a moment. I don't want to jump ahead too
- 17:29far, but just because it's here. We spoke about women going to
- 17:32the mikvah. So women, they can go to them.
- 17:38What's commonly done is there's two options or you can do both.
- 17:441 is the when the woman goes into the mikvah, she wears
- 17:47either a robe, it's a loose robe.
- 17:50So when the rabbis see her go to the mikvah, there's no khatsitsa
- 17:54and she's fully covered. Her head will be uncovered, but
- 17:58her, her body is completely covered because she goes in with
- 18:01the robe. They don't she'll go in, then
- 18:03the rabbis will walk in the room.
- 18:05So when they see her, they'll see her head, they'll see her
- 18:07back and she'll be completely clothed and but it's loose.
- 18:12Or there's, they also make some kind of garment cloak, whatever
- 18:18it is, where it's kind of like a poncho.
- 18:20There you go. It's like a poncho.
- 18:22So when she goes in the water, it floats the top, but no one
- 18:26can see what's underneath. And so that's, that's another
- 18:29type of way that it happens. And then they leave the room.
- 18:32Well, they see her go in the water, then they leave the room.
- 18:36And so the rabbi's never saw anything inappropriate.
- 18:40And then what some will do is they'll have her go in again.
- 18:44Well, she's in the water already.
- 18:45She just takes off the robe or the poncho, whatever she's
- 18:49wearing. And then the lady who there
- 18:52baloney to whatever the lady who's there who works in the
- 18:54mikvah will help her get in and checked her out.
- 18:58So then she'll tobel again in front of her.
- 19:03So she is a witness in Adekhlad Nehmanbi.
- 19:06Soon we're going to get to Adeus and whatever.
- 19:09But we also, and since the Rabbis did the Kabbalah Sam
- 19:13mitzvos with her there, the question is, does that work by
- 19:16itself or not? So that's the whole question.
- 19:20But this way you get all the hummers of her going to the
- 19:24mikvah with the Katsitsa. No, no, all the plumbers have no
- 19:29clothing. So there's no Katsitsa.
- 19:31And OK, so those are the I've seen, I've seen where they've
- 19:36done both. I'll just point out he points on
- 19:39the bottom from the red buzz in case it wasn't clear.
- 19:42And when, when we say there's a there's an inion oven, there is
- 19:45such an inion oven of a Jew who's an RL, right?
- 19:51He didn't have a mikvah. He and if he needs to and if he
- 19:54wants to, to become either concept of a mikvah or I'll
- 20:00just, I'll just say it anytime it's an it's a Jew.
- 20:03He never needs to go to the mikvah, but there's a Kumrah of
- 20:06a mummah and this and that it's a Kumrah, but he never needs to
- 20:10and you know, and any time he wants to come back to mitzvahs,
- 20:12you have someone who's was in shumar mitzvahs.
- 20:15He was a there is such a right there.
- 20:17Someone went into Christianity A shumad.
- 20:21So there's an inion to have him also go to the mikvah.
- 20:26But again, so as the post can point out and tell somebody
- 20:29could buy it and others, you encourage him to go to the
- 20:32mikvah and you don't make it too difficult like we do by Ager.
- 20:35There's there's no purpose to scare him off.
- 20:38He is Jewish. So you want to you don't you
- 20:41know, you don't scare him off at all.
- 20:43And the mikvah process that's done.
- 20:45It's just a custom and that's only me there about no, I'm
- 20:48fine. But when I'm talking about a
- 20:50proper conversion, it's 100% me doraisa and he has to go.
- 20:54And if it's not, it's meiakiv. And if it's a suffik, if they
- 20:58need to any case of a conversion process from a non Jew, it's a
- 21:02seika doraisa la kumra and it's an absolute must and it's 100%
- 21:06meiakiv. OK, now one of the one of the
- 21:10Gumaras that the the post can point out over here is this is
- 21:17Gumar. It's in a couple places.
- 21:18One of them's in Kedushim ayin amad baze where it says kasha
- 21:23gearing lisal kisapaka. So non Jews are difficult for
- 21:29the Jewish people like like a nega like a plague effects the
- 21:34people are that it's attached to that it's next to.
- 21:37So what is that we're referring to?
- 21:39So a couple of different Nafarshim over there.
- 21:41It's also if almost the shock brings it down.
- 21:44So that's why we're not quick to convert them.
- 21:47We want to make sure we weed them out.
- 21:49And if they're not sincere and they're not going to hold by it,
- 21:52we don't convert them. We do want to scare them a
- 21:55little bit. So, so what's so that Gomara
- 21:58over there? So it's so the shadow of that
- 22:01Gomara is that converts are not good for us, right?
- 22:05So why not? So one of them is because
- 22:09they're not Medocta king. Many times we see converts, we
- 22:14see both, but let me just explain what what's the what's
- 22:17the shot? Because men and that and
- 22:19nowadays we are, it's more of a difficult process to convert
- 22:23nowadays by most. But they didn't.
- 22:25So therefore many times you would end up with a non Jew
- 22:30convert, convert. But they're not medaktik and
- 22:32mitzvahs. They have bad habits.
- 22:34They have bad taivas that they're used to and they don't.
- 22:38They didn't go to yeshiva, they didn't learn all the mitzvahs.
- 22:40They didn't go to the Mishnabura, They don't you
- 22:42didn't learn the Kitzer Shalkhanara.
- 22:44So they're not aware of everything.
- 22:46So therefore they they do Averos anyway.
- 22:50Some of their habits might not be very good.
- 22:52And the issue is maybe it's it's a problem of arevas.
- 22:56That's the whole question. If there's Arevas by by Aguer,
- 22:59we'll just leave that on the side.
- 23:00But we can get punished because of them.
- 23:02Another thing is we can learn from them and learn bad behavior
- 23:05from them and then then we deserve to get punished if we're
- 23:10influenced badly. Another one is another reason
- 23:14why they're they're called Kashyam.
- 23:16The Israel is because sometimes we don't treat them properly.
- 23:20We harass them or we abuse them, we ashamed them, we embarrass
- 23:24them and we don't treat them right.
- 23:26So therefore we're prejudice against them, real racist,
- 23:29whatever it is, and therefore we violate the ESR da araisa of
- 23:34Latonia of that, that behavior. Also another shot of Kashyam
- 23:42garingly he sells because because of them.
- 23:44So there's a Gomarian musakin, it's two different perushim
- 23:47musakin pei Zain. Why Jews go?
- 23:49Why is there Gallus? Why are Jews dispersed
- 23:52throughout the world? So one of them, well, the point
- 23:55is Garyam is difficult for us because now because of them, we
- 23:59have to go into Gallus because one of the two reasons that the
- 24:03Gomara gives, why Jews go into Gallus is in order to pick up
- 24:07and pick up the gering itself. So Kedusha that are scattered.
- 24:11And part of our purpose is to look for them and to get them.
- 24:15The Kumar. Another reason the Kumar over
- 24:16there gives is because so in case there's a Holocaust or
- 24:19tagrams that there's even if one location gets wiped out, you
- 24:24have Jews in a different land that'll survive.
- 24:27And one last shot on that Gumara, and we'll conclude is
- 24:32Tosvas over there in Kedushan quotes would be Avraham Hagar.
- 24:36And Avraham Hagar says, do you know why Kashuna Kashungarian?
- 24:41Because when they convert, they really convert.
- 24:44They're sincere and they do mitzvahs much better than the
- 24:48regular Jew who mitzvahs and Ashima Lumada.
- 24:52And therefore they, because they're so good, they make us
- 24:55look bad in the eyes of Hashem, and then we get punished.