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Brandon Henderson: I Am Terrified | Furnace Fest 2024 Series · The BlackSheep Podcast: Presented by HM Magazine

• 0:30
  Speaker 1: Today, we've got Brandon from Rye and Terrified that super
• 0:33
  Speaker 1: stoked to chat Brandon.
• 0:34
  Speaker 2: Last time it was maybe like two years ago. Now
• 0:36
  Speaker 2: we chatted about the Chariot.
• 0:38
  Speaker 1: Obviously added more about that just because obviously Colin and
• 0:42
  Speaker 1: I are big Cheriot fans. But obviously at the time
• 0:45
  Speaker 1: that we chatted, you were like, hey, like I am
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  Speaker 1: terrified stuff like kind of coming back together.
• 0:50
  Speaker 2: We're you know, making.
• 0:51
  Speaker 1: Some new music, and here we are now you've got
• 0:54
  Speaker 1: some new music out. So you've got I think like
• 0:56
  Speaker 1: last year you had a single out, You've got a
• 0:59
  Speaker 1: new single out this year.
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  Speaker 2: That is one of my favorite songs of this year.
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  Speaker 1: Like I remember when you guys initially released it and
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  Speaker 1: I didn't you're it right away. Colin texted me about
• 1:09
  Speaker 1: it because he like jumped on it right away. Colin
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  Speaker 1: texted me was like, dude, this is like song of
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  Speaker 1: the year contender right here. This is so freaking good.
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  Speaker 1: So really stuck about the new music. So we'll try
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  Speaker 1: about that. We'll talk about your guys' upcoming show up
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  Speaker 1: furnst Best. But before we get in all of that,
• 1:24
  Speaker 1: are you doing.
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  Speaker 2: Today, Brandon?
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  Speaker 3: I am great, fantastic, just being a full time dad
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  Speaker 3: over here.
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  Speaker 2: Just being full time dad. You're still like kind of
• 1:34
  Speaker 2: like Florida.
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  Speaker 3: Area, right, Yep, I'm in Florida. I am in Aplechical
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  Speaker 3: of Florida now.
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  Speaker 4: Ooh yeah, if I remember right, last time we talked
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  Speaker 4: to you, you were you were Were you living at camper?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? I was at the time, yeause, I was. I
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  Speaker 3: was air being airbnbing my house that I was in
• 1:54
  Speaker 3: that I lived in. We turned it into airbnb, and
• 1:59
  Speaker 3: so I was going, like, my in laws have a
• 2:01
  Speaker 3: place on the island and I was staying in there
• 2:03
  Speaker 3: camper while we air being beat our house out. So
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  Speaker 3: I actually lived in that thing for like six months,
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  Speaker 3: my whole four of us.
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  Speaker 4: Dude, that would have been so tight. So I can't imagine.
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  Speaker 3: Was an experience that I don't want to do again.
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  Speaker 2: So you're saying tiny house living is not for you,
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  Speaker 2: and the Henderson's.
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  Speaker 3: No, definitely not. I need my space. I need to
• 2:27
  Speaker 3: be able to close the door tell everyone to get out.
• 2:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta like, uh, what is it like when
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  Speaker 1: you like like guys like when they sit down and
• 2:35
  Speaker 1: they've got to like spread like me and spread or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you just got to air out those balls.
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  Speaker 3: You need that kind of space, right, I definitely do,
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  Speaker 3: and I mean my whole family need that, Like both
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  Speaker 3: of my kids like to be.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody's got to the balls, Henderson family.
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  Speaker 3: Everyone big balls here.
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  Speaker 4: You might even call it Harry and the Henderson all right. Uh,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I I take you as a very relaxed
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  Speaker 4: I'm a calm individual, and I can't imagine how like
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  Speaker 4: all these kids running around in such a small space.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm sure, I'm sure you were really pushing
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  Speaker 4: the edge of your sanity.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I can be deceiving. I mean for the most part,
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  Speaker 3: I am very chill and relaxed, but man, I can
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  Speaker 3: get there quick. Like I kind of I do have
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  Speaker 3: a temper problem.
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  Speaker 4: Really, It's not like a serial killer snap.
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  Speaker 3: It's not like a serial killer snap. It's just like
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  Speaker 3: the stress levels get so high sometimes that I'm I
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  Speaker 3: don't really let it out. Maybe that is the issue,
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  Speaker 3: but I don't let it out. But it's in me that.
• 3:40
  Speaker 1: Were you able to like let it out more so
• 3:42
  Speaker 1: in the Chariot shows when you were playing with the Chariot, like,
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  Speaker 1: because I feel like that's the kind of show where
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  Speaker 1: it's like you've got like tents up energy.
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  Speaker 2: A Chariot show is going to take that out of you.
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  Speaker 3: That's yeah, that has happened. At one Chariot show that
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  Speaker 3: I can think of that did happen. But most of
• 4:00
  Speaker 3: the time we would have talks about that and we
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  Speaker 3: didn't want any anything to come off as frustration or anger.
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  Speaker 3: We just wanted to have fun, so we tried not
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  Speaker 3: to let that be what's making us go crazy. But yeah, right,
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  Speaker 3: I feel like I.
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  Speaker 4: Do remember one moment a show that Mason were first song,
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  Speaker 4: your shirt gets torn off, like literally ripped in half.
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  Speaker 4: It was a Michael Jackson Thriller shirt. I think, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: and you had a face of legitimate anger. I think
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  Speaker 4: because you're like, dude, first.
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  Speaker 3: Song, really sometimes it's anger, but after the show, guys,
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  Speaker 3: sometimes it's just adrenaline there.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I suppose that makes sense.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want this to be like a whole Cheeriot thing,
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  Speaker 1: but a cheeriot question does pop in my mind here
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  Speaker 1: where you know, Colin just mentioned a second ago, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like you definitely have like total chill vibes and pretty
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  Speaker 1: much all of the guys from the Cheriot that we've
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  Speaker 1: ever interviewed, including yourself, Like I mean, you definitely seem like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, good old country boy, like just you know,
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  Speaker 1: you'd love to like just sip on some like you know,
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  Speaker 1: sweet tea and.
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  Speaker 2: Just be chill. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Steves definitely has that energy too. I think,
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  Speaker 1: uh certainly Wolf did. Like Wolf is like probably one
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  Speaker 1: of the most chill dudes ever. I would imagine maybe
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  Speaker 1: David is like that a little bit too. I'm just
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  Speaker 1: kidd but at like some point you'd think, like somebody's
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  Speaker 1: balancing that chill energy out in the Cherriot, it was
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  Speaker 1: it Josh that was a little bit more like hyperactive
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  Speaker 1: of energy or like who was kind of like balancing
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  Speaker 1: out some of that chillness because I can't imagine that
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  Speaker 1: entire band could just be like five chill dudes the
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  Speaker 1: entire time or maybe ever.
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  Speaker 3: Uh it kind of is like it kind is really chill.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, we all have our moments of where we
• 5:45
  Speaker 3: go in saying, you know, like Wolf has that. He
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  Speaker 3: has his moments like if we're staying at someone.
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  Speaker 1: Like he like rain up like a mountain in Montana,
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  Speaker 1: like off the side of the road one time, I
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  Speaker 1: think I saw.
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  Speaker 2: Like aet you w.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he does things like that quite often. He takes
• 6:00
  Speaker 3: his own little adventures. I think that's how he gets
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  Speaker 3: everything out of his system'll he'll go off on his own.
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  Speaker 3: We won't see him for hours and be like, oh dude,
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  Speaker 3: load ends in like thirty minutes. Hope he's gonna make it.
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  Speaker 3: Ye Like things like that happen, you know.
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  Speaker 4: That doesn't make sense? That does make sense? Is that
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  Speaker 4: a similar dynamic with I am terrified?
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  Speaker 3: I am terrified? No, not really?
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  Speaker 4: How's How's how? What is the dynamic of I am terrified?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, how do you? Guys?
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  Speaker 3: We we have been so Me and Patty have been
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  Speaker 3: like best friends since I don't know, two thousand and
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  Speaker 3: nine or so, but before that, like two thousand and eight.
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  Speaker 3: I joined the band in two thousand and eight, and
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  Speaker 3: we we we get pretty wild together, me and Patty,
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  Speaker 3: like we we've been in fights, you know, like literally
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  Speaker 3: fist fights. And day Where were we at? I can't
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  Speaker 3: even remember where we are.
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  Speaker 4: It's like, I'm curious how your fist fights go down?
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  Speaker 4: Is there like hair pulling and stuff like that?
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  Speaker 3: There should be. But we were at a pool hall
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  Speaker 3: and maybe it was Baltimore. It's Baltimore, and I was drinking.
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  Speaker 4: This sounds like it sounds like a nineteen eighties like Trucker.
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  Speaker 3: Dude, it was a wild it was somewhere we did
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  Speaker 3: and we were the loudest people in the place. I
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  Speaker 3: mean we got kicked out, but yeah, but.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I would say, like if I were a
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  Speaker 1: person about to get in a fight with Brandon Henderson,
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  Speaker 1: I would like, maybe right before him about to throw
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  Speaker 1: my first punch, I would like have serious, like a
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  Speaker 1: serious moment of contemplation of like, do I really want
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  Speaker 1: to mess.
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  Speaker 2: Up this guy's beautiful face?
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  Speaker 1: You don't want to, and you don't want like I
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  Speaker 1: I would just feel so guilty if I, like ever
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  Speaker 1: messed that up and I'm be like you no, like
• 7:51
  Speaker 1: you know, the the Chariot in particular, like there's it's
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  Speaker 1: not like those guys. The rest of those guys are
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  Speaker 1: much lookers and so like, you know, I can't like
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  Speaker 1: just Ruin the one a pretty guy in the band's
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  Speaker 1: face except.
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  Speaker 3: For dude, I don't know, those are some good looking dudes.
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  Speaker 1: Well see, I guess Steve this really is like a
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  Speaker 1: true model at this point. I mean, he's a great
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  Speaker 1: looking guy.
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  Speaker 3: The wolf is so handsome, yeah, especially when his shade.
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  Speaker 4: Dude you guys. You guys, you guys look pretty similar,
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  Speaker 4: and that's a lot.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie, like if you were able to
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  Speaker 2: grow the Wolf Crew, Like, yeah, you guys kind of
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  Speaker 2: got a total like similar.
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  Speaker 4: Look.
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  Speaker 3: We've been told that you guys can pass sure, you know,
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  Speaker 3: we've been asked that a few times.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can see that you guys have like similar
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  Speaker 2: where it's not like super super thick drawl, but like
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  Speaker 2: it's enough there where it's like, all right, you guys
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  Speaker 2: are from the South, and so I could totally see
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  Speaker 2: you guys passing his brothers.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well we've claimed it before, you know, someone asks, Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Mason and I we were talking I think, just
• 8:50
  Speaker 4: like probably like a week ago, two weeks ago, about
• 8:53
  Speaker 4: how we can only stand each other before like we
• 8:57
  Speaker 4: start like really kind of getting under each other's skin
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  Speaker 4: about seventy hours. I can't imagine being in a band
• 9:05
  Speaker 4: with somebody driving down the road it constantly, you know,
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  Speaker 4: trying to keep your own space and all that stuff.
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  Speaker 4: Like I've always wondered what that life is really like
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  Speaker 4: and how people actually stay friends.
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  Speaker 3: I mean it's pretty easy. Like the Chariot, most of
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  Speaker 3: the time, we all had our own bones, and we
• 9:26
  Speaker 3: would just do our own thing. We might listen to music,
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  Speaker 3: but usually someone's driving, other guys are just sleeping, playing
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  Speaker 3: on her phone or something like that. So that was
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  Speaker 3: pretty easy. There's you get these spurts of like, all right,
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  Speaker 3: I gotta have some entertainment now, Like you start when
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  Speaker 3: you're getting on, like towards the three hours of a drive,
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  Speaker 3: it starts getting very boring. And that's when I start
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  Speaker 3: kind of losing my mind, and it's just like, all right,
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  Speaker 3: what can I do? What can I do? I'm like
• 9:54
  Speaker 3: cooped in bags, you know, in the van, just to
• 9:58
  Speaker 3: just to have something happening, you know, just something some
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  Speaker 3: kind of crazy.
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  Speaker 4: Would you grenade those out the window at some unsuspecting
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  Speaker 4: family media?
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  Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, I just held on to him
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  Speaker 3: until he made a stop, which it forces you know,
• 10:12
  Speaker 3: it forces you to make a stop. Yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 3: you'd be stopping real quick. Yeah. So that that's kind
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  Speaker 3: of how the chariot was. I am terrified was Patty
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  Speaker 3: was always throwing matches at us, like lighting matches while
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  Speaker 3: you're driving, You're just throwing them at.
• 10:28
  Speaker 4: You and while you're driving.
• 10:30
  Speaker 3: Yes, Paddy would lose his mind more than anyone.
• 10:36
  Speaker 4: We have a van, and he likes with with how
• 10:38
  Speaker 4: many vans getting rigged rex and stuff. I just can't
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  Speaker 4: imagine that's a good idea.
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  Speaker 3: He was stabbing the dash of the van one time
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  Speaker 3: with his knife, just over and over and over and over.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, dude, like air bag's gonna pop out and
• 10:50
  Speaker 3: the knife is just guys, hit you in the face.
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  Speaker 3: But he does things, he goes. He's a wild person.
• 10:59
  Speaker 1: You know, one of these things you're talking about, these
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: vans on the things I was thinking of lately, just
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  Speaker 1: because when I was like driving within the like the
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: last month, like one of those, like like a sixteen
• 11:10
  Speaker 1: passenger van, the Yah fifteen fifteen passenger van, one of
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  Speaker 1: those drove by me, and I thought to myself, there
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  Speaker 1: was a time period of my life, like maybe a
• 11:20
  Speaker 1: six year period where I was in one of those.
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  Speaker 2: Things, like almost weekly, it seemed like.
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  Speaker 1: And I have not been in one of those in
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  Speaker 1: like fifteen years now or fourteen years.
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  Speaker 4: Do you miss it? Do you miss it?
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  Speaker 1: I kind of like it's so weird that like that
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  Speaker 1: was such a like a core part of my life
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  Speaker 1: for so long or for you know, for a good
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  Speaker 1: six years. And then I just have never, like, have
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  Speaker 1: ever even come close to being in one of those
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  Speaker 1: vans since.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really weird, Like the only things they're used
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  Speaker 3: for is churches and bands vans.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I don't think I don't think I've seen
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  Speaker 1: one of those vands used in any other maybe like
• 11:59
  Speaker 1: for port shuttles.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's some like like carpet guys that will tear
• 12:05
  Speaker 3: the seats out and throw rolls of carpet in the
• 12:07
  Speaker 3: back and things like that. But yeah, usually when I
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  Speaker 3: see one, I'm like, is that a band in there? Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I gotta check it out.
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  Speaker 4: I do exact same thing, especially if it's like a
• 12:17
  Speaker 4: little bit of a beat up fan. If it's like
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  Speaker 4: pristine white, I'm like, oh that's that's definitely like a
• 12:23
  Speaker 4: shuttle or that's some delivery service. But if it's if
• 12:27
  Speaker 4: it's a little bit you know, not well taken care
• 12:30
  Speaker 4: of him, like God, that's probably that's the trying to
• 12:32
  Speaker 4: catch up to them, see what's going on.
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  Speaker 1: That's like, you know, like the white ones and the
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  Speaker 1: white ones are like, you know, very clearly like either
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  Speaker 1: this is like a church or a or a band
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  Speaker 1: that's in it. I will say so, uh a couple
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: of months ago, I was hanging out with Garrett from
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: Silent Planet and he just just bought one. And it
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: was like probably from the eighties, and it was like
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  Speaker 1: one that was old enough where it had like the
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  Speaker 1: curtains on the in the back for over the windows,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, this this is like borderline like
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  Speaker 1: kind of one of those like creepy pervert ones and
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  Speaker 1: not like a cool band one or a church fan
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  Speaker 1: one or whatever. Like it definitely had way more of
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: a creeper vibe than it did a band vibe.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, So he bought it for himself, not for
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  Speaker 3: the band.
• 13:16
  Speaker 2: No, he bought well, he bought it for like to
• 13:18
  Speaker 2: use it for the band, but he got like a
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  Speaker 2: really cheap deal on it because it's so old, got
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  Speaker 2: like a really cheap.
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  Speaker 3: Deal in it. Was it afteen passenger or it was
• 13:25
  Speaker 3: just like the old.
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: It was a fifteen passenger one. Yeah, but it was
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: like from the I mean it is old. It was
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  Speaker 1: like from the eighties or.
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  Speaker 3: Like I've actually been looking at getting one of those
• 13:33
  Speaker 3: conversion vans that yeah that has that has the curtains,
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  Speaker 3: that has.
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  Speaker 4: The little luxurious.
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: Put a little hot tub in the back.
• 13:42
  Speaker 4: Put a mirror on the roof absolutely for those long
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  Speaker 4: drives at nights.
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  Speaker 3: Talk to yourself with the boys.
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: All right, well, let's talk about I Am Terrified music.
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  Speaker 1: Uh so again obviously you guys had this single last
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: year news single Again, it's Kuller. I mean there are
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: parts of it where it's like this is so chaotic,
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: like I would have never expected this from behind Terrified.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, just talk about like some of the a
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  Speaker 1: couple of new songs and like, you know, what, what
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  Speaker 1: was the writing process like for this?
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  Speaker 2: You know, were you guys trying to do something way different?
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  Speaker 1: Like I'm just really curious about some of the ideas
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: that you've had around these new songs.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we're always trying to do something different.
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  Speaker 3: Like I think the last time we talked, which this
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: is still the case. We have so many songs written
• 14:31
  Speaker 3: and we have a lot of songs that they're pretty
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: much done like that. We're just holding on too, because
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: we released Evolve and they were like, well, these other
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: songs don't really seem to fit. Then when we released
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: Bone to Pick, these other songs still don't seem to
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  Speaker 3: fit like the other ones we're working on right now.
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: That are almost done, are just so much heavier than all. Like,
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: there's probably about ten songs that are finished that just
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  Speaker 3: doesn't fit with these songs that we have right now,
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  Speaker 3: and we're just kind of on this train. We're like,
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: let's just ride it, man, because every time we get together,
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: we you know, write a new one and it just happens,
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: and we're not going to get off this train until
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: we're like, all right, let's now, let's take a let's
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: take a turn this way, you know. But it's the
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: process is kind of the same. I always start with
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: the riffs, you know, I have I have the bones
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  Speaker 3: of a song done, just put together, and then everybody
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: just chimes in. And when we meet up, which is
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: rare because we're all in different places, we meet up
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: and that's when everything really comes together out of nowhere.
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: Like, so are you usually the instigator of the song?
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  Speaker 4: Like where you are the kind of the first spark
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: or the first idea and then it just evolves from
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: there or yeah, that's how.
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  Speaker 3: It's been on these last few songs. Patty does sort
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: of the same thing as well. He'll he'll sit at
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: home and write riffs, come up with the riffs, and
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: then pass it along. I like, I like to get
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: in my head about songs, though, I like to sit
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: with them for a long time, and I usually don't
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: send anything out until I'm like, this can be a
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: full song. We just have to sure, you know, get
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: it composed.
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I I am thoroughly, thoroughly impressed with both Evolve
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: and Bone to Pick. And I cannot wait to see
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: where else you guys go with this stuff, because I
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: means especially Bone to Pick. Man, I it felt like
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: it scratched something in my brain that I didn't know
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: I needed scratched. You know that feeling like where all
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: of a sudden, like something just lands in your lap.
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: And like, this is exactly what I've just been I've
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: just been needing this. I've listened to the song no
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: less than two hundred and fifty times. You're the guy,
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: I am the guy. I'm the guy.
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: Just impressed. Yeah, I know, man, it's ridiculous, but it is.
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: It is pretty cool. It's like I that song was
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: originally supposed to be just a short song minute thirty
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: seconds in and out, just heavy blaster, and it never
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: fails once I. Once I get the song to Patty,
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: I don't know man, he has a way of doing choruses,
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: like he knows exactly what he wants to hear on courses. Hey,
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: if even if it's a song, I'm like, I don't
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: want to have a course on the song. It's gonna
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: have a course like Patty's like, oh nope. And then
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: it's like, oh, well, we got another full song again. Yeah.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: I keep trying to do these little short songs. I'm like,
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: come on, man, let's just do one minute in and out.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: And it always turns into a full blown thing, which
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: ends up better. I mean, it's it's better in the last.
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: It's a journey man.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: But he's he's he is really good at that side
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: of things. He can pull he can pull the melody
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: out of like into songs that weren't there before. And
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: that's where that's where that magic comes from. It's him. Yeah.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: Well, when when I saw Go Ahead.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: When I saw you guys had a song called Evolve,
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: I was like, for a second, it was like, you
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: guys gonna have a song called the City and a
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: song called Forget, and maybe maybe have a song called
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: back to Back or something like.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: I was just like, that is that? Where is that?
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: The route we're going on here.
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: That is actually my first thought I think about.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: That's the first a hilarious joke.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: What wouldn't that be like a hilarious joke if you
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: just like all of the new songs are just like
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: Chariot songs or like the titles of Ero, it would be.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: That would be You've got to use like that would
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: be hilarious.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be pretty cool.
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: Or like plays off of them. Yeah, so like instead
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: of instead of teaching, you'd say, like teacher, Yeah, instead
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: of the city, it would be the town.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: The town, and it wouldn't be what it would just
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: be like slightly different.
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, just oh yeah, speaking of the city, I don't
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: know if you saw the breening, but Skogin's gonna be
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: around at Furnace fast playing sixty eight.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Last time sixty eight played so two years ago, uh,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: sixty eight played the city and Colin and I saved
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: joke to that. It was really fun. I mean, I
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: don't know if you've been talking with Skogin or not,
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: but I'm sure you guys are gonna maybe, you know,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: try to say hi and hang out.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: But it'd be cool if we can get like maybe a.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: Little I mean, we've got you playing, We've got Skoghin playing.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know if there's any other Like former Chariot
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: Guy's gonna be great.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: Who e Keller the Glass Ocean they're gonna be playing.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: Oh so I mean maybe maybe we could get like
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: a mini Chariot reunion for a second. That'd become fun, right,
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: I would be.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: Down, dude, I would do it.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Sounds like Scoggin turning down offers, but like, you know,
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: if y'all are in the same place already.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: May as well just do something, right, I mean, I
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: would just do it for free. Yeah, just to do it.
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: Hell yeah, see that be incredible in the parking lot
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: next door the brewery. Yeah, that sounds like a Chariot
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: thing to do.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: It'd be fun. I'd be down. I haven't talked to
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: Skogan about it yet, but I did know that they
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: were gonna be there. I found out like a few
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: months ago, and I was just like, oh, I can't
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: wait for this to drop because here comes to the
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: conspiracies again.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Well my like, I mean, I don't have any Chariot conspiracy,
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: but like last time I when sixty eight was there,
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: So Skogin played a set Right after that was when
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: Norman Jean played, So I thought maybe because like Skogin's
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: already warmed up, maybe he would play Memphis with Norma Jean.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: That didn't end up happening. It was a little disappointed,
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: but maybe this toy we could maybe see a little
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: uh little Memphis.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: I mean obviously, I mean, I know you're not supposed
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: to be like a Skoggin insider, but I feel like
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: if anybody that we talked to is going to be
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: a Skoggin insider, you.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: Would be the one.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: I am not because I don't know. I never know
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: what that guy's going to do. Like when we were
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: on the road to a normal game, you know he
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: would do that part with him, but then I don't know.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: He might be getting coffee one night. So he's just
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: not there right now.
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: So they didn't sure.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah makes sense.
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: Are you excited to play Furnest Fast?
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: Dude? I'm so excited. I'm very Yeah.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Have you been there?
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: Have you have you been?
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: I've not been. I have been, but not to the fest.
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: I've been Sloss, So so you've been to Sloss but
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: you haven't been.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: Have not been to the festival? You know, the first
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: year we played that after show as well. It was awesome. Gideon,
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: my children, my brother, we played that and I had
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: every intention on going to the fest, but it just
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: didn't happen. Yeah, you get into your own show and
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: it's just like, well I'm here.
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, now that makes time.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Are you playing it on, like actually hanging out at
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: the festival this year?
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: I'm planning on it. I mean I hope that happens, like, well,
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: the day before. We're playing with Norma Jean on October fourth,
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: and then our Birmingham shows on the fifth. All right,
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: so yeah, I won't be there on the fourth obviously, sure,
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: but I'm hoping us to stay around for the last day.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: I'm hoping to get there all day Saturday and hang
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: around Sunday. That's my plan.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well if we see you, I mean obviously
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: we'll want to go to the show, but we'll you know,
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: hang out with the show. But we see you just
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: hanging out at the festival, obviously we want to give
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: you a big hug.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: I mean it'd be really clusive for sure.
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Oh yeah. Are there other buddies that you're maybe
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: excited to see either watch them play or just to
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: hang and shoot the shitter.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's too many, you know, I mean, of course
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: you don't want to leave anyone out either, Yeah, I
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: mean all the Normangena, everyone on the show that we're on.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: It's just cool. I haven't seen them pign doing guys
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: and so long, so I'm starting to see them. Who
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: else is the War of Ages? Haven't seen those guys
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: in forever? I mean I haven't seen them in probably
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: like twenty years. I would say, wow, well close to it.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, are there if you did, if you were around
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: like at the festival on Saturday and Sunday, Like, are
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: there bands that you would like?
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: For sure?
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: Just like want to see, whether you know them or not,
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: but like just you want to see because you love
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: that band, Like what would that be?
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: I don't think I'm going to be able to see Sayosin,
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: but I really want to see Satosin. I really want to.
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: Have you gotten the schedule of when everyone's.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: Playing, no idea, no.
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: Interest? So they don't give that out even to the
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: bands yet, huh.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I just don't have it. Maybe everyone
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: else does, but I don't know. I don't show up. Yeah,
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: I'm just there. Yeah, I don't even I'm trying.
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: To figure out who's, uh, who's going to conflict with
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: my schedule because there's always going to be, you know,
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: two bands that you're dying to see playing at the
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: same time.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: Well, I've seen Cohed before, so I'm not worried about
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: seeing Coed.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: Not the biggest You might be the only person saying
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: I'm not worried about saying about seeing Cohed.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: I don't know, man, I hope, I hope not, because
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: I think if everyone stays to see them, they're gonna
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: miss us. That's the Yeah, let's see. I can't even
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: remember who else is playing Saturday, to be honest, Yeah,
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: who else is?
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: I have no idea what that.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: I'm just I just know, like pretty much every band
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: I want to see.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: I was just bummed that I didn't see blind Side
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: that year.
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: Dude, that was incredible.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: Waita, what day are they playing this year?
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: Sunday?
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: Bland Sunday?
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Okay, well you got Sunday and Extell's playing again now
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: this year. I don't know if you saw that.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: That was just a yeah, I did see that.
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: I'm stoked.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Blindside, that was one of the top five bands
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: I should have named last time.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: What's your favorite album with that?
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: I think.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: About a Burning Fire, of course.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: I mean that's probably my favorite as well. Although I'm
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: a huge here's what I actually think.
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: I like.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: The Great Depression more than Silence, even though obviously like Silence,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: probably their most famous one. But I think I like
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: the Great Depression more than Silence. But but yeah, definitely
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: about a Breeding Part is probably my favorite.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Great Depression. That's a It's a really great album.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: I don't think I gave it enough listens when it
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: first came out, just because it was so different from
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: what it definitely has more of.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: This like like rob bluesy vibe more so than like
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: they're more kind of new metal alternative metal vibe that
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: they had.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: Obviously previously with their last those other first two albums.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's so good.
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, blind blind Side is playing Sunday for sure.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: I see here, Clint, you got really dart.
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: I just got really dark.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: You look dark.
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: There you go. It's probably probably from my computers, you know,
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: I do. I do appreciate that you like Blindside so much,
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: because I've always said that Christian or not christ Lak
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: song Simon granaheak, they're they're guitarist. I think it's, in
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: my opinion, the greatest riff writer in the entire scene.
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I can be a entire alternative scene. Every
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: single song is It's not always the most flashy, you're
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: most like intricate or anything like that, and it doesn't
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: need to be. It's just it's so musically brilliant. For this.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he holds it the one guitar down very very well.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: So it's almost unbelievable that they're able to get that
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: sound out of four guys and only three of them
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: are actually playing instruments. I mean, they just are able
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: to create so much sound out of three instruments.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: Well, Christian was one of the people that I've I
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: don't think i've said hello to, but I've been so
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: starstruck around that.
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: I was the same way. Man, I'm not a star
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: bars but like as soon as I saw him, I
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: was like I had like the tight chest and everything.
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: Like I don't really get that much anymore when I'm
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: talking to some of my heroes, and you know, my
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: musical heroes especially, But when I saw Christian and I
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: said hello and everything, I felt like a bumbling idiot.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: We I mean, I had I just had nothing.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: You feel like, what's like, what would be the swifty
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: equivalent of a Christian lynks Gaga, A lynks Lynkski.
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: What do you mean, I'm a skaging.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, how would you even say that?
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: It's got to be a skagy Right, I'm a skagy brou.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: But that well, you could be a skagee as a
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Chris Joshins look Christian.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: No. I Am Terrified played there. I think it was
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: like one of their first shows back, like when they
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: had split up a long time ago. This was in like, oh,
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: this might have been nine, two thousand and nine, O.
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: Nine, O nine they came back for me.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: It was like, well they played, Oh they played twenty
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: eleven in America because Colin and I saw them in
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: twenty eleven at Life Flight Fast maybe around well, I know,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: you guys would have been it was a.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: Nine because it was an im. I was a I
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: Am Terrified And we played with them in New Mexico
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: some festival.
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: I think, oh, nine is when the Black Rose Ep
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: came out and they were they were doing some stuff
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: with that, yeah, and then they came out with final albums.
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: It was it was just us and them on the show.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: That day. It was just a two band thing. It
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: was an amusement park that we were playing, and they
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: were like, dude, Christian, a man, nice to see you.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: Just keep going.
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: So it was just it was just you guys, and
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: you guys didn't dude.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: No, I was so nervous. I couldn't do it. And
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: when the Chariot was in Sweden he came out to
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: the shows. It was just hanging in the green room.
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: I didn't say a single word. I still couldn't do it.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: Man, do you normally get like around I mean, like
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: I can't imagine like you got you probably in your
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: touring days, especially like you're probably meeting a lot of
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: people that were musical heroes of yours.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: Would did you ever get that way around other people
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: like that? Or was it just Christian like kind of
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: South struck, starstruck?
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: I could see Metallica.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: That makes sense, Christian and Metallica. That's when did.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: You When did you have the chance to eat Metallica.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: When we did that sound Wave fest in Australia.
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: Was that when they were playing with Gojira?
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: No, they were they were the headliner on sound Wave.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: I think it was twenty twelve, maybe twenty eleven, but
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: they were the main the headliner, and they they hosted
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: a barbecue the first night, like they bought all the
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: three all the bands, Yeah, for every band. Wow, they
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: were just hanging out with everyone. I mean, they were
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: so cool, but still didn't need them hitting talf.
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: Did you wear your napster T shirt?
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: It's funny you got do you know the you know
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: the dudes and this as hell? Do you remember that band?
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: I know the band, I don't. I don't know that
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: they were.
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: They were on that fest too, and I just remember
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: hanging out with them, like hanging out with their singer
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: guitarist and we're talking. We're like, dude, go talk to them. No, man,
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: you go talk to them like no one did.
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: Like imagine imagine throwing a party, uh with with all
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: these bands and uh, you're like, hey, come on hang
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: and you just end up hanging out by yourself as
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: Metallica because everyone's terrified to come out.
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: I saw a few brave, brave souls walk up to them,
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: you know, and shake hands, and I was just like,
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna do it. I'll make a fool of myself
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: not doing that, you know. And we had to play
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: at the same time as them every single night. That
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: was a shame.
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: Oh man, that's rough. That's rough. If you were to
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: go hang out with one of them, which one would
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: you hang out with?
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: I don't know if it'd be by choice, but it
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: would be Lars because I saw him hanging out at
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: side shows, like we had all these little side shows
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: throughout the week, and he would just yeah, come in
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: and hang out. It was really cool.
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: Dude, that guy is a is a heavy music fan.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Like it doesn't matter.
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: What it is, he's he's on top of it. It's impressive.
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: I've seen some interviews with him and he's he's nameing
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: off bands I listen to and the kind of like
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: the underground alternative world, and I'm like, how in the
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: world are you this connected? This like plugged in he.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: Was just hanging out with everyone, like he was just
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: front row, like in the crowd, just watching every band.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: I was like, man, it's so cool.
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: That is sick.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: I would have like I often like have thought about
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: this where you know, it's like some of these like
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: you know, really kind of more popular bands that maybe
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: we've interviewed them before or like we just like know
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: of them. But then they'll like name drop a band
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: that's like way more underground that we, like, you know,
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: everybody else listens to, and you just would assume that
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: this more popular band.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Just like could have possibly listened to you because they
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: were like this band is so underground whatever. But like,
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: like I still remember the drummer for Thrice a couple
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: of years ago.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Uh he like did like a top like five like
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: album list of that year and it was a band
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: from one of the bands was a band that's one
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: of my favorite bands called The Hope for Home U
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: and they were on face down and they had just
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: like released like this four song EP, like it was
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: like their first music in like eleven or twelve years,
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: and it was like, here's the guy from Thrice that
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: you know likes this band that might might have five
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: hundred monthly listeners on Spotify, right, like just a tiny band,
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: and it it was like things like that where it's like,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: oh my god, like some of these people actually really
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: listen to or you know, like I don't know if
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: you've ever seen like.
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: My favorite one is this one Mason is like Billy
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: like nih loose or something, right, you know, it was
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: it was it Dies today?
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: Was that Billy Eilish said that it Dies did that one?
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Billy Eilish was was Yeah, she posted about it
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: Dies today. She's like I love this band whoa And
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: they're like, what the fuck that she.
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: Loved this band from like years ago or like today?
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: I don't know, but he's just still good, still likes
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: some regardless clearly.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: I think she posted like an Instagram story with them
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: like tagged or whatever or like you know, like she like,
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: you know how like Instagram you can like put the
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: song that like you can actually have the song in
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: the story or whatever. You like, did something like that,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: and so you like just like see the screenshot of
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: this story and then there's it's it Dies to a
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: being played or whatever, like oh my god.
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah they thought they were getting punked, yeah.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: Or like Demi Levado like has what was like the
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: band that they were listening to.
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: She's fan or not loose Holy buckets my brain just.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: But it's like a heavy band that you're like, oh
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: my god, listens Seppi and like, but I mean it's
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: just like funny when there's like super popular people listen
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: to like what we would consider extremely less popular bands
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: or artists than what that artist would be.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: It's like it would be paramore now like it people
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: that just now know yea more would be like, oh,
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: Haley likes Haley liked the Chariot, you know, like what
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: that wouldn't make sense to people? Now?
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: Did you ever get to meet her real?
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, they were on that fest too.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: So did you get starstar your own hurt?
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: No? I didn't.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: What I would I.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: Would be I would be the most I would literally
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: be like an awkward sixth grader trying to like ask
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: a girl to the dance. Like, I would be so weird.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: I feel like I'm pretty like chill around pretty much anyone,
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: but Hailey Williams.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: I just I wouldn't know what to do with myself.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: It was mostly because I'm like also very attracted to her,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: and like I feel like any any person of them
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: attracted to him, Like, oh boy, I'm like I'm about
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: to fumble.
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: I saw those pictures back in two thousand and six,
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: that's what.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: Oh it was her and there guitarist Taylor. You know,
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: they just came over. We were me and Josh was
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: just eating lunch one day and they just came over
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: and sat down. I was like, oh, hey, guys, what's up.
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: So we just had some lunch with them for a minute.
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: And then Taylor he's he's such a nice guy. We
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: ended up hanging out a bunch, like at the after
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: parties and stuff. Man then would just go out. I
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: never hung out with Haley again, but I did hang
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: out with Taylor quite a bit.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: I've heard he really sucks at fantasy football.
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: Oh really, yeah.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: We when we interviewed Mike from You Without You, Uh,
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: he's in a fantasy football league with Taylor and he
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: said he's usually the worst.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: Oh man, just get throw on him under the bus
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: like that. Yeah, he's a nice guy.
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: Low blow.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: I mean I think probably most I think to be
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: good at fantasy football, Like generally you're probably like not
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: a good person. Yeah, probably so, And I mean I
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: would like and if you're a good person, you're probably
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: not good at fantasy football.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: True. I I backed that.
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: I guess I'm a good person.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: Well, it helps when you're also a Vikings fan and
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: you know, like you're just your team.
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's it. That's where that's where you you
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: lose it. So I'm curious, you know, you said, you
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: have all these songs ready to go for I'm terrified. Yeah,
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: you know, you got new music kind of coming out,
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: trickling out at least at this moment. Where do you
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: take it from here? Then you're saying that some of
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: the songs are really fitting together with what you've already
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: released as singles or as one Officer or whatever they
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: happen to be for for going to pick and involved,
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: where do you go from here? That's what can fans expect.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: I would just keep expecting heavy, fast stuff. That's because
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: it's that's why we haven't released all that stuff. And
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: that's also what's taking takes us so long because we're
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: we have all these other songs, but that we put
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: them on the back burner. So it's all this new
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: music that we're writing that everyone keeps here so you know,
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: they'll hear people will hear this other stuff one day
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: when it's the right time, but it's just not the
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: right time.
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Which are you going to use furnace Fast
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: as kind of a springboard for.
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: That or No?
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: Probably not?
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: What are you thinking? They're probably not? So it's not
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: it's not going to be expedited quite that much as
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: what you're saying.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: Now, we I'll be We'll be playing a new song
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: at that show, another new one, a new unreleased song.
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: Can we can we expect them to pick Oh yeah, yeah,
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: Oh dude, we're trying to We can't miss much as
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: some people hate it. We're just trying to not play
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: any old stuff at all. I don't want to play
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: any old stuff. We're just trying to get away from it, yeah,
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: which kind of sucks for some people. They're like, I
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: want to hear you know, they want to hear things
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: before the band was called I Am Terrified. You know,
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: they used to be called Fix Till Tuesday, and people
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: bring up songs from back then, like, dude, those songs
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: are so old. We want to get away from.
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: It, Like why do you want to get Why do
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: you want to get away from it so bad? Like
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: is it just because you're like, hey, that's just like
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: a different time or what's what's the reason.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I don't want to just hold on
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: to the nostalgia of things. I want to be just
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: appreciate the new, like we like the you a lot better. Yeah.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: I mean it's like any band that releases new album,
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: they tour on the new album and they play, you know,
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: a few old strips here and there, but we're trying
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: not to go that old because technically that was a
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: different band. Even in two thousand and eight, that was
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: a different band. It was a different title.
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, Like I I'm so glad to hear that.
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: I like, I like the old stuff. There ain't there.
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: I mean, I've listened to it a bunch, but this
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: is just vastly better what I've heard.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: So thank you. I think so too.
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: And I wish that more artists were willing to say
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: that too, because a lot of times the new stuff
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: just is better.
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: They're like they'll they'll often say like, yo, this is
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: the best thing we've ever made, and it's like, okay,
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: do you really believe that? Though right, A lot of
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: times I don't think they do. Yeah, they're just saying
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: that because they want you to go out by the record.
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: This is like, this is this is vastly better. It's
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: just so good. I'm having so much fun with you.
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: You're gonna I just need more. It's like Heroin right now,
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: and you're like you're like keeping me from my needle
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: right now.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: I don't know if I would get that far.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: But yeah, you're gonna make me have to add this podcasted.
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: When I said that it's scratched an itch that I
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: just haven't I didn't even know I needed scratching.
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: What was the what? What part of the song? In particular,
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: I think you're about to ask what what?
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: What part of his body was?
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: What?
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: Right now? It's uh it the very beginning, the way
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: it kicks off, that guitar tone, that tempo that just
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: like evil overlording kind of sound coming up of out
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: of the speakers that draws me in, and then those
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: that big hooky chorus and then just like an out
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: of nowhere bridge that goes in a completely different direction.
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: I'm just all about it, man, Yeah, all about it.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well from bringing for you, like as a guitarist,
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: like how much do you think being in the Chariot
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: maybe like influence this sound that we're hearing from.
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: I am terrified now.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Like what was that something like just being in the
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: chariot maybe kind of was like, oh, like what if
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: I brought like some of that some of that sound
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: that I created in the Chariot, Like what if I
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: brought a little bit of that like version of it
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: to I AM Terrified, Like, was that something that you
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: like thought about or were conscious stuff? Because to me,
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: like it does feel like Okay, there's definitely obviously like
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: the total like classic I AM Terrified sound, but it
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: does kind of like got a little bit more of
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: this closer to a chariot vibe than we've heard past
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: iron terrified music.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it does on certain parts, like before that song
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: goes into the bridge, it does all those dissonance, some
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: of that kind of stuff does play into it, but
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: it also goes back to like the old Norma Jean stuff,
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: like the things I grew up listening to. Yeah, you know,
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: I grew up listening to Yeah, old Norma Jean, and.
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: I think the guitar tone really reminded me of old
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: God the aftermath kind of a guitar tone.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: Well, that's one of my I was picking on that.
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Like like the song Scientification specifically for some reasons
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: coming to my head, it's kind of got that those
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: strange dissonant chords, very low end, but also got some
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: like some high parts. I don't know enough of Bock
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: Retired to like be able to like describe it very well,
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: but yeah, that where the where it sounds like the
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: chords fighting with itself. It just it makes me so happy.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: I think like that beginning risk came from I'm trying
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: to think of the band, but it was I had
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: an old hell Fest DVD growing up, and I can't
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: remember that. It was like the title, the title screen,
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: whatever risk that was played. Who was it? I cannot remember.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: I want to say bleeding through, but I don't think
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: it was bleeding through, but I can see it might
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: have been. I can't remember at this point, but they
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: I just remember that riff and I was always I
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: love those, just just that chugginess of that and that
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: I literally when I was writing that riff, I was like,
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: I want to write something like that, like that has
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: that feel. And that's so that's where that came from from.
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: I don't know, year two thousand, Yeah, yeah, somewhere.
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: But if it feels fresh though, man, I'm just I'm
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: all about it. Yeah.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: The production value of it, I mean, I don't know
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: where you guys.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: Are recording and and all of that, but the production
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: of it just found and it like it's it doesn't
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: feel overproduced at all, like it I mean, obviously it
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: clearly sounds.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: Like real guitar guitar riffs.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: But but it's also like, I mean, it's clean as well,
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Like I mean, you're obviously a great guitar so it
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: sounds clean. So it doesn't sound like some like garbage
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: like eighties black metal recording or whatever, but it but
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: it also doesn't feel like way over like fabricated and overproduced,
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: like it's just it's like right in that like great
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: kind of sweet spots spot.
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah. We do all the recording ourselves, you know, we
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: do all that ourselves, and then I try to I
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: try to edit as much as I can to make
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: it clean. For Ryan, he's the one who we send
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: it off to for mixing and mastering. Sure Yellow Ryan
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: what true he was, He was a forty day guitar player.
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: He does he does all this Planet stuff, record Gideon
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: and all that. But he's the he's who we're using
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: for that. So we try to give him a pretty
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: good version when he first gets it, but he puts
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: he just puts magic on it. I don't know, I
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: don't even know how to explain it. Like I want
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: him to show me how he does it, you know,
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: but I wouldn't show anyone how I do it, you know,
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: if I'm right right exactly, But I just wish I
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: would just want to watch him so close one day.
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: How are you doing that? Because some of it I
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: didn't even understand, Like some things he did to the song.
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: I was like, they're so subtle and I wouldn't even
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: notice it until he said something to me. And he
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: would like he would turn certain things on and off.
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: I'd be like, oh, well, it didn't make a difference,
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: like not even that something that even is needed for
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: the song. It just enhanced it. I was like, how
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: did you do that?
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: So like like like like when you say it needed,
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: like is it?
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: Well?
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: What give us an example? Like what did it do
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: to me?
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: Like he made the bass just beefier. I don't even
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: know what he did.
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: Okay, so fills out, fills out the low end somehow.
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure what he did because what we're doing,
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: so we're tracking everything here and I'm sending him just
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: our raw files. You know, he has nothing on it,
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: Like I send him. I send him my guitar, like
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: through my AMP guitar, and I also send him dry
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: track guitar. So it's just a shame change just clean
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: you know, and uh he he kind of he reamps
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: it like you would in a studio. He'll run it
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: through like the MESA, you know, all kinds of different
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: heads and apps.
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: So and then so you can do it that way,
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: so you can go so can you go direct line
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: in h record there and then send it through the
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: MESA there?
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: Is that how that would work? Interesting? I didn't know
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: that was even the way that was done.
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: Yeahs now or is it usually well just because we're
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: in all different states, that's how we're doing it. Yeah.
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: Sure, and so but is that like kind of like
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: the standard is because I I just imagine that people
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: would just send it through like an AX effects kind
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: of situation on their computer.
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: Well, I do that too. I have my you know,
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: my pedal down here that I play through. So I
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: send him the wet file and the dry file, so
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: I think he blends them. He'll blend my signal with
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: a little bit of his like REAMPT stuff.
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: Gotcha. Interesting? Is there a tone? Because I am really
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: impressed by your tone. Is there a tone that you
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: kind of go for, maybe like an inspiration of someone's
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: guitar or is it just something that you've like found
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: that you really like the way it comes through the
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: way you play. I like mids.
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: I like a lot of MIDSU I don't like scoopy guitars.
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: I like the clarity. I like to be able to
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: hear notes really well. So I look for a good
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: bassy chug with some good mids so that you can
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: have clarity in notes. That's what I'm looking for. Hell yeah,
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: And I tweak it all the time, Like I got
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: so many like presets saved on my pedal. I'm always
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: like adjusting and tweaking, save it, tweak it, save it.
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: It's changing all the time.
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: I love it. Do you feel like you ever lose
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: anything on the high end when you're maybe noodling around
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: a little bit more.
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: I don't think so. Sometimes maybe sometimes I might lose
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: something and save it and like I'm never getting that back.
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: I've done that.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: Too, that's gonna be the worst.
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: It's just like, yeah, actually I did that on Evolved.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: Like I was tweaking my sound a lot when we
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: were doing Evolved, and I had to retrack the whole
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: thing because I had a whole another sound and I
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: couldn't get my other sound back. I didn't mean to
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: do that. I just overridden that preset and I was like, God,
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: oh no, but well, so you.
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: Don't you don't like also have a paper copy of
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: you don't like like right now like where you're.
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: At, not very organized in that way. I should be
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: more organized in that way, but I'm not. I don't
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: have like a backup or anything. It's just, oh damn,
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: So all you're saying is is that somebody's to steal
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: that pedal and you're you're not reinventing yourself.
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I have to start all over pretty much. Jesus terrible, Yeah, Jesus.
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: All right, let's get into your top five biggest guilty
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: pleasure artists.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: I think we might have mentioned this one last time,
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: but Creed, Creed, that's.
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: Not only your most influential, but it's also a guilty pleasure.
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: That is a first that I think, right, Yeah.
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: I can't imagine.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: I don't think there's ever been anybody who is like,
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: this is a band that's also influential and is a
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: guilty pleasure.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: But it is.
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, at least in the scene of music that
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: we're in. I think more people like Creed than they
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: are willing to admit, and so I think they are
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: probably the quintessential example of a guilty pleasure.
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I get why, Like he can discuss out.
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: His voice can be a little much sometimes I think he.
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and a little bit cheesy songwriting sometimes even yeah,
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: I mean yeah, but.
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: That guitar work, that dude can shred.
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: I don't. I don't know anyone who's the guitarist and
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: says he's bad, and he has everyone says he's at all,
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: not a bit, just like you.
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: I've aged. I got some gray hair, dude.
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: I just I was watching uh, I was watching a
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: music video of yours from fifteen years ago, and I
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: was like, yeah, not at all, no change there whatsoever.
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: Appreciate it.
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: Maybe's just because you're wearing a hat. I don't know.
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: Maybe you're bald.
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: Back there, but I'm not bald. It's crazy. My hair
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: is a little wild, right, you got thick hair, You
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: got thick hair, and but yeah, full. What's terrible is
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: where I'm at in Florida. We have such hard water
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: that it has it's like messed my hair up. It's
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: like damaged it. So I'm in the process of now
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: getting like a whole home solten Our system. Oh man,
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: I literally look like beetlejuice. Like if I shower wash
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: my hair, I look like beetlejuice when I come out.
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: It's just everywhere. It's insane.
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: What a fun time. I'm sorry, man, it sucks.
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: First world problems.
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right.
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: Okay, So Creed number one guilty pleasure artists.
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: What are you other for? Let's see, let me think
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: about this one. What's the dude's name I'm blanking right now,
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: Steve Scourge Chapman, no ah, God?
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: What that famous that Toby Mack right now, like famous
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: British right now? Freddie Mercury, No not, No, dude was
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: in the boy band Harry Styless.
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: Ah, Harry Styles. That makes sense. He's got some tunes
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: and I'm like, I kind of dig as.
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: Well, Watermelon Sugar or whatever.
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: But there's another album that's good. What's the what's that
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: other song that is all over the place something Times
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: or something. I can't remember the name of it.
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: I don't remember any names of songs or albums or anything,
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: but that album.
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: He knows how to create a good earworm of a song.
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean he's very talented.
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and the girls. I mean the girls swoon over
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: him too.
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: I think he's losing his charm though.
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you get married or what. That's usually the way
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: that boy bands.
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: It's not it's not that, but they're off the so
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: I teach, I teach, I teach high schoolers, and all
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: of them hate Harry Styles. Years ago, they were like
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: all about him. I don't know. I'm not I'm not
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: up to date on nothing.
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: Figure that out.
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: That's interesting.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: Well, I think Harry Style. That's a that's a great
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: other choice though. That's definitely guilty pleasure.
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a perfect guilty pleasure. Jackson five Jackson in general.
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: Hell yeah, Michael jacks got that ABC just olden huh dude, Yeah.
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: Where does that come from? I don't I don't pick
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: you as a Jackson five guy at all.
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: I grew up idolizing Michael Jackson, like trying to moonwalk,
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: like in my kitchen, you know, when I was kidding
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: everything and figure it out. Yeah, oh yeah, oh I
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: can moon walk.
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: You can still moonwalk.
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: I can still move. I used to move walk on
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: stage sometimes if I felt like it, I.
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: Was gonna say, can you do it? While playing guitar.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: Okay, in three weeks, Colin and I will be expecting
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: the moonwalk.
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: All right, I'm gonna do it.
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: And we also want the lean with the hat that
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: I'll put a nail in the in the stage.
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: Yes, you don't get bummed like when I found out
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: he wasn't just doing that.
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but it still takes a ton of course strength
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: to be able to hold yourself up. Yeah, at that angle,
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: it's magical though. Yeah, you're right, great though.
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: Michael Jackson Jackson five.
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, one of the same, all right, two more,
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: two more. M I I honestly don't like this band much,
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: but I like like one of their songs Maroon five.
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: One of their songs, Oh that's a great one.
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: What what.
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: She Will Be Loved? Oh?
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: Interesting? That is like right up the same alley as
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: Mason's Total vibe.
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, totally same vibe.
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: And now most of the songs. I don't like affairs,
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: but I like that song.
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: I didn't mind their first record too much. It's a
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: little it's a little creepy at times, but in terms
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: of like actual songwriting.
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: It's not.
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: It's just I feel like they've kind of like following
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: off the Cliff like I can't.
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: I couldn't tell you the.
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: Last like top like hit from five in the last
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: ten years, right like yeah, even they just stopped since
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: he was on the voice or whatever.
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: I don't Lvian, He's just he's not very good at
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: texting either, so that kind of ruined him.
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: I think, Wait, what happened with.
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: He was like, wasn't he like wasn't his like sexting
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: like really cheesy? Yeah, came out like a couple like
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: that's right.
• 55:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Like gosh, I gotta I gotta look it up
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: again with some of those works because they were and
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: they weren't and they weren't his wife, so that, you know,
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: kind of messing.
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, one more, let me think of one more.
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: I mean I like a lot of country, real, I
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: love country.
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, what what what era of country are you in?
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: Nineties? Oh? All right, country like some Alan Brooks and
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: Done that kind of stuff. Nice?
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: Nice? Do you have a specific that you want to
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: include in your tin guilty Pleasures?
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: Dude, I'll love some Shania Twain who doesn't love Yeah,
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: I'll just I'll just make it Brooks and Done. Okay,
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: Brooks and Done.
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: Do they are they the ones that do red Dirt
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: Road that song rips. I don't care.
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: They have so many songs that.
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: They do, have so many songs, but that's not.
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: That's rips.
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: I don't care what you know, there is a whole.
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: Can you can you name one Brooksham Done song other
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: than the ones I just named me?
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I couldn't name any I'm sure I
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: recognize a bunch of them, but I couldn't name any
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: of them, right, all right, I mean growing up in
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: South Drooto, like you, you get to know, Like, I'm
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: sure I've heard many Brooks and Done songs on the radio,
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: but none that I would be like, oh my god,
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: that the Brooks and Done song Like I don't care
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: enough about them to know.
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: My whole family is country fans, and uh, when I
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: was a kid, they made us go to or they
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: didn't make us. They drugged my ass to a country
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: music festival called we Fest in Minnesota.
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: Drug dead meaning they put something in your drink or they.
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: They know they they dragged me there. I think it's
• 57:23
  Speaker 4: drugged me.
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: There, didn't they or drag they dragged me there.
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: Dragged whatever it is. I'm not here about semantics you're
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: usually the one that fucks that up. But uh, it
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: was the worst time of my life. I was so bored.
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: Who played except.
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: For except for when Montgomery Gentry played Montgomery Gentry ripped
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: and roared up there man show they were yeah everyone else.
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: I was like, this sucks.
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: Well. Country's coming back now, like with post Malon doing
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: his thing, like that's.
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: Just what's that one guy that and he just won
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: like a Grammy that was like really had that, like
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: the get what song was?
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: It's like super poppy right now. It's like that hip
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: hop guy and he's like super tattered. Oh jelly roll
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: yeah that guy.
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, jelly won Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. Country's having
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: like a big pop right now.
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: It is, it is, and it's actually kind of getting
• 58:25
  Speaker 4: decent again. Yeah, because there was a long time there,
• 58:29
  Speaker 4: especially in the twenty teens.
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: It was Florida Georgia Line real bad.
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah and Luke Bryant all that stuff.
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: So now Florida Georgia Line, I wish they would just
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: say they're a pop ban because they do have some
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: really catchy song. Yeah, it's good songwriting, but man, but
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: the country part of it kind of kills it for me.
• 58:53
  Speaker 4: Right yeah, well they lean so much into that redneck
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: kind of yes kind of look too that they just
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: kind of have to be a country band. Yeah, things
• 59:01
  Speaker 4: that I don't know, even though they're not really one.
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah it's a pop band.
• 59:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I agree.
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good list that that is probably one
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: of the best fuilty pleasure lists that we've got, because
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: you know, sometimes like again, like so many well artists
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: are like, oh, I don't feel guilty, Like no, but
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: that's a that's a great list. Like you you definitely
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: nailed each one of those that those are those are
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: artists that you definitely should feel guilty for listening to. Uh,
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: but but you love them and it's okay, yeah, do
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: love them.
• 59:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think this might be like the first
• 59:36
  Speaker 4: time that like it was actually pretty easy for someone.
• 59:38
  Speaker 4: Usually they're like they're like, I don't know, I don't
• 59:41
  Speaker 4: have a I don't have another one. And then they'll
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: say something like I don't know it's like some like
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: opera singer from the nineteen forties, and everyone's like, oh,
• 59:52
  Speaker 4: who the hell is that? That's not you can't have
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: a guilty pleasure that no one's heard of?
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I mean I have. I don't know,
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: there's so many more of them, but.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 4: I like it. I like it.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: Great list.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 4: Uh, you're supposed to be guilty, that's good, exactly.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: Brandon, what do you want to plug obviously upcoming show
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: for his Fast Year in a few weeks. Uh, new
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: music that we could be expecting sometime soon. But yeah,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: what do you want to plug about?
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: Terrified? Let's see, we are going to be doing like
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: a scuba tour, subub tour, submarine tour.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: So you're playing in a submarine or are you playing
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: like in scuba gear at underwater both scuba gear and
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: a submarine.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: Dude, that's amazing. Yeah, and we're just gonna go what
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: kind of submarine? Is it a yellow submarine or a
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: yellow submarine?
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: Unfortunately?
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: Is it one of those user submarines that like a
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: bunch of people got lost and died?
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: Hey, could it be one of those? We're going to
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: test it.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: Are they giving you the Xbox controllers?
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: We're just gonna see how low we can go before
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: music doesn't sound as good anymore. And you know, everything starts.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 4: Until there's not enough air where you can't even hear that.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, those midtones are about to sound like low tones.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: That's right, dude, it's gonna crush.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: I promise you that was a bad joke. I'm sorry
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: now that that thing basically he had no readn't.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: Explode, right, didn't it? Just no, it imploded.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: Imploded, And uh well, I think they probably all died
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: before then because they lack of oxygen more.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: But then obviously had to have imploded because it, you know,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: just you keep sinking the pressure.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: It's less unless it's like builds to where it's able
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: to hit to the bottom of the ocean without imploding.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: I don't know, but they definitely they all die because
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: of lack of oxygen.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: Like is it fuel though? Is it like gasoline? How
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: is it?
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: How does it implode?
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: I mean, if there's like gasoline on it, it seems
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: like it would cause an explosion like something flammable.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 4: Maybe I don't think there's gasoline. And I think they
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 4: use a an electric motor, a small electric motor, because
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: you don't need a whole lot of movement to actually
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 4: go up and down.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: I don't know, I'm much get in one.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: You're just you're skinting into it and plane.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so who's who's putting this on? Is it is it,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 4: h James Cameron.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: It's just us.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: Is this is this the new Furnace Fest plane?
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: Like, you know, I know they said like they're kind
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: of leaving it open for you know, new future. Uh,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: you know, obviously they're not going to do the festival
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: in Birmingham anymore. But it sounds like maybe is this
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: a furnst Festival could be.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: I'm not giving that secret away, but I have been
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: in talks with some of the founders.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: So okay, all right, Chad Johnson, Yeah.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: So I just I'm curious who's captaining this this this watercraft?
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: Is it John Cotterery Denzil Washington.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: No, it was just an old World tour bus driver
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: that we found there's no longer working.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys, you guys had a big enough band
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: to have a bus driver yourselves. Well it was the
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: guy you guys yourself weren't the bus drivers, the chariot.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: Spost driver from Warped Tour who got fired from his job.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: I hit him up. So now he's coming on with
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: the iron Chair submarine driver.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: Well he was he the reason why you guys broke
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: up on warp Tour.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: Yes, he was the reason. He said, we should break out,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: and we took his advice.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: Why what was he just that he looked like Gandolf
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: and you felt like you were obligated to listen to
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: him or what?
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: No, he said, you'll never be as big as Nelly,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: so give it up. Yeah, we gave it up. That
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: was it?
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 4: Fair enough?
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: It's a good point.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 4: Hard to argue with that, even if you even if
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 4: you wear air Force ones.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: Even if we were air Force lens. He said, you'll
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: never have the girls on the bus like Nelly did,
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: So break up. Fair enough.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 4: Gosh that sucks. I mean, I get it, though he's
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 4: probably right.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: He didn't want to drive us around.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, screw all right? Well sweet he submarine tour? Can't wait?
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 4: What coast are you going to be on? Or is
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 4: this gonna be on land?
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: No, it's a it's a world tour, actually.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: World even going to the Indian Ocean.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, going everywhere.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 4: Dang, are gonna play for the penguins and Antarctica.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: If we can make it. It just depends on I hope
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: so icebergs.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 4: And yeah, I hear the straits of Agela are pretty treacherous,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 4: and be careful they're.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: Being treacherous at this time of the year, well braided,
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: we're super excited uh for Furnace Fast and obviously it
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: sounds like a whole entire world tour.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: Around all the the oceans of planet Earth. But yeah,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: super excited, uh for all the new music that's gonna
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: be coming out soon.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: Uh. Yeah, it's just all of the two tunes that
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: have come out since I Just Have Bad, so good,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: that we're just excited for all the new music that
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: so so good.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: The words release, yes, sir,