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MC Fireside Chats - December 8th, 2021 · MC Fireside Chats, an Outdoor Hospitality Podcast

• 0:51
  Good
• 0:51
  morning,
• 0:52
  everybody.
• 0:52
  Welcome
• 0:52
  to
• 0:53
  another
• 0:53
  episode
• 0:53
  of
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  MC
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  Fireside
• 0:54
  Chats.
• 0:54
  My
• 0:54
  name
• 0:55
  is
• 0:55
  Brian
• 0:55
  Searl
• 0:55
  with
• 0:55
  Insider
• 0:56
  Perks
• 0:56
  and
• 0:56
  Modern
• 0:57
  Campground.
• 0:57
  We
• 0:57
  are
• 0:57
  here
• 0:57
  as
• 0:58
  always
• 0:58
  with
• 0:58
  Cara
• 0:59
  Csizmadia
• 0:59
  from
• 0:59
  the
• 0:59
  Canadian
• 1:00
  Camping
• 1:00
  RV
• 1:01
  Council,
• 1:01
  as
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  well
• 1:02
  as
• 1:02
  Angela
• 1:02
  Hilton,
• 1:03
  who
• 1:03
  is
• 1:03
  joining
• 1:03
  us
• 1:03
  from
• 1:04
  the
• 1:04
  back
• 1:04
  of
• 1:04
  a
• 1:04
  restaurant.
• 1:05
  True,
• 1:05
  dedicated
• 1:06
  commitment
• 1:06
  there
• 1:07
  to
• 1:07
  being
• 1:07
  on
• 1:07
  the
• 1:07
  show,
• 1:08
  the
• 1:08
  editor
• 1:09
  in
• 1:09
  chief
• 1:09
  of
• 1:10
  Modern
• 1:10
  Campground.
• 1:11
  We
• 1:11
  really
• 1:11
  appreciate
• 1:11
  her
• 1:12
  taking
• 1:12
  some
• 1:12
  time
• 1:12
  here.
• 1:12
  She's
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  just
• 1:13
  got,
• 1:13
  what
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  did
• 1:13
  you
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  just
• 1:14
  get
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  done
• 1:14
  doing
• 1:14
  Angela
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  making
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  was
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  it
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  scones
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  you
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  said,
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  or
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  croissant
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  making
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  glass
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  croissant
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  making,
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  which
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  is
• 1:20
  way
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  more
• 1:21
  delicious
• 1:21
  and
• 1:22
  important.
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  And
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  you're
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  bringing
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  some
• 1:27
  of
• 1:27
  those
• 1:27
  to
• 1:27
  us,
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  right?
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  Like
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  where
• 1:28
  their
• 1:28
  shipments
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  in
• 1:29
  the
• 1:29
  mail.
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  Yeah,
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  sure.
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  I'll
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  put
• 1:32
  yours
• 1:32
  in
• 1:32
  there.
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  I
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  think
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  it
• 1:34
  will
• 1:34
  be
• 1:35
  good
• 1:35
  by
• 1:35
  the
• 1:35
  time
• 1:35
  it
• 1:35
  gets
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  to
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  Canada.
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  So
• 1:37
  really
• 1:37
  appreciate
• 1:37
  you
• 1:37
  guys
• 1:37
  joining
• 1:38
  us
• 1:38
  again.
• 1:38
  We're
• 1:38
  happy
• 1:39
  to
• 1:39
  have
• 1:39
  a
• 1:39
  really
• 1:40
  important
• 1:40
  conversation
• 1:41
  today.
• 1:42
  At
• 1:42
  least
• 1:42
  in
• 1:42
  my
• 1:42
  opinion
• 1:43
  about
• 1:43
  diversity
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  and
• 1:44
  I
• 1:44
  don't
• 1:44
  want
• 1:44
  to
• 1:45
  be
• 1:45
  the
• 1:45
  person
• 1:45
  that
• 1:45
  guides
• 1:46
  this
• 1:46
  conversation.
• 1:46
  So
• 1:46
  we've
• 1:47
  got
• 1:47
  a
• 1:47
  lot
• 1:47
  of
• 1:47
  amazing
• 1:48
  guests
• 1:48
  on
• 1:48
  here.
• 1:49
  We've
• 1:49
  got
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  Earl
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  from
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  black
• 1:50
  folks,
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  cam
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  two,
• 1:50
  we've
• 1:50
  got
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  Lindsay
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  linner
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  out
• 1:52
  David
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  and
• 1:52
  Eddie
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  from
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  a
• 1:53
  full-time
• 1:53
  gaze
• 1:53
  full-time
• 1:54
  RV
• 1:54
  years.
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  And
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  so
• 1:55
  I
• 1:55
  want
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  to
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  go
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  around
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  the
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  room
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  first
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  and
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  let
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  each
• 1:57
  person
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  introduce
• 1:58
  themselves
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  and
• 1:59
  not
• 2:00
  just
• 2:00
  introduce
• 2:00
  themselves,
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  but
• 2:01
  give
• 2:01
  a
• 2:01
  backstory
• 2:02
  as
• 2:02
  to
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  why
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  you
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  feel.
• 2:04
  You
• 2:04
  can
• 2:04
  speak
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  to
• 2:05
  these
• 2:05
  issues,
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  what
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  diversity
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  may
• 2:07
  be
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  means
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  in
• 2:08
  your
• 2:08
  eyes
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  and
• 2:08
  your
• 2:08
  mind.
• 2:09
  And
• 2:09
  then
• 2:09
  I
• 2:10
  just
• 2:10
  am
• 2:10
  hoping
• 2:10
  that
• 2:10
  all
• 2:11
  of
• 2:11
  you
• 2:11
  will
• 2:11
  play
• 2:11
  off
• 2:11
  each
• 2:12
  other
• 2:12
  and
• 2:12
  tell
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  our
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  audience
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  of
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  campground
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  owners
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  and
• 2:15
  industry
• 2:16
  people
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  and
• 2:17
  suppliers.
• 2:18
  What
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  they
• 2:19
  should
• 2:19
  be
• 2:19
  focusing
• 2:19
  on
• 2:20
  what
• 2:20
  you've
• 2:20
  seen,
• 2:21
  what
• 2:21
  has
• 2:21
  improved,
• 2:22
  what
• 2:22
  still
• 2:22
  needs
• 2:22
  to
• 2:23
  improve
• 2:23
  and
• 2:23
  just
• 2:23
  take
• 2:24
  the
• 2:24
  conversation
• 2:24
  wherever
• 2:24
  you
• 2:25
  want
• 2:25
  to
• 2:25
  go.
• 2:25
  But
• 2:25
  I
• 2:25
  want
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  to
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  play
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  a
• 2:26
  background
• 2:26
  role
• 2:26
  in
• 2:27
  this
• 2:27
  show
• 2:27
  as
• 2:28
  much
• 2:28
  as
• 2:28
  I
• 2:28
  can.
• 2:28
  Earl,
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  I
• 2:29
  know
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  you
• 2:29
  a
• 2:29
  little
• 2:30
  bit,
• 2:30
  we
• 2:30
  met
• 2:30
  each
• 2:30
  other
• 2:31
  a
• 2:31
  couple
• 2:31
  years
• 2:32
  ago
• 2:32
  at
• 2:32
  an
• 2:32
  RV
• 2:32
  convention.
• 2:33
  You
• 2:33
  probably
• 2:33
  don't
• 2:33
  remember
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  I'm
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  sure,
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  but
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  we
• 2:35
  did.
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  And
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  you
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  came
• 2:36
  across
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  as
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  a
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  really
• 2:37
  intelligent,
• 2:38
  amazing
• 2:38
  guy,
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  and
• 2:38
  I'm
• 2:39
  super
• 2:39
  thankful
• 2:40
  that
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  you've
• 2:40
  had
• 2:40
  so
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  much
• 2:41
  success,
• 2:41
  that
• 2:41
  you're
• 2:41
  still
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  flying
• 2:42
  to
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  Vegas,
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  keynoting
• 2:43
  doing
• 2:44
  all
• 2:44
  these
• 2:44
  kinds
• 2:44
  of
• 2:44
  cool
• 2:44
  things.
• 2:45
  And
• 2:45
  so
• 2:45
  let's
• 2:46
  start
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  with
• 2:46
  you
• 2:46
  Earl.
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  Just
• 2:47
  introduce
• 2:47
  yourself
• 2:47
  a
• 2:47
  little
• 2:48
  bit
• 2:48
  of
• 2:48
  your
• 2:48
  backstory
• 2:49
  and
• 2:49
  what
• 2:49
  diversity
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  means
• 2:50
  to
• 2:50
  you
• 2:51
  and
• 2:51
  take
• 2:51
  it
• 2:51
  wherever
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  you
• 2:52
  want
• 2:52
  from
• 2:52
  there.
• 2:53
  Right
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  on.
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  So
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  first
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  of
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  all,
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  to
• 2:54
  the
• 2:54
  audience,
• 2:55
  I'm
• 2:55
  sitting
• 2:55
  in
• 2:55
  the
• 2:55
  airport,
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  so
• 2:56
  you're
• 2:56
  going
• 2:56
  to
• 2:56
  hear
• 2:56
  some
• 2:56
  background
• 2:57
  noise.
• 2:57
  I
• 2:57
  hate
• 2:57
  to
• 2:58
  hate
• 2:58
  that's
• 2:58
  happening,
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  but
• 2:59
  I'm
• 2:59
  actually
• 2:59
  flying
• 2:59
  out.
• 2:59
  As
• 3:00
  a
• 3:00
  state,
• 3:00
  but
• 3:00
  it's
• 3:01
  Earl
• 3:01
  B
• 3:01
  hunter
• 3:01
  Jr.
• 3:02
  I'm
• 3:02
  actually
• 3:02
  the
• 3:03
  founding
• 3:03
  president
• 3:04
  of
• 3:04
  black
• 3:04
  folks
• 3:04
  came
• 3:04
  to
• 3:05
  our
• 3:06
  job
• 3:06
  and
• 3:06
  our
• 3:07
  company
• 3:07
  is
• 3:07
  to
• 3:07
  remove
• 3:08
  fear
• 3:08
  and
• 3:09
  knowledge,
• 3:09
  and
• 3:09
  there's
• 3:09
  like
• 3:09
  more
• 3:09
  black
• 3:10
  folks
• 3:10
  to
• 3:10
  camp
• 3:11
  and
• 3:11
  enjoy
• 3:11
  the
• 3:11
  outdoor
• 3:12
  lifestyle
• 3:12
  with
• 3:12
  any
• 3:13
  and
• 3:13
  everyone.
• 3:14
  And
• 3:14
  if
• 3:14
  you're
• 3:14
  wondering
• 3:14
  who
• 3:15
  any,
• 3:15
  and
• 3:15
  everyone
• 3:15
  is
• 3:16
  just
• 3:16
  pick
• 3:16
  up
• 3:16
  a
• 3:16
  mirror
• 3:17
  and
• 3:17
  then
• 3:17
  you'll
• 3:18
  see
• 3:18
  that
• 3:18
  any
• 3:18
  and
• 3:18
  everyone
• 3:19
  right
• 3:19
  in
• 3:19
  that
• 3:19
  mirror.
• 3:20
  I,
• 3:20
  my
• 3:20
  background
• 3:21
  is
• 3:22
  that
• 3:22
  I
• 3:22
  was
• 3:22
  an
• 3:22
  executive
• 3:23
  in
• 3:23
  the
• 3:23
  outdoor
• 3:23
  industry,
• 3:24
  particularly
• 3:24
  in
• 3:24
  the.
• 3:25
  RV
• 3:25
  industry,
• 3:25
  one
• 3:26
  of
• 3:26
  the
• 3:26
  only
• 3:26
  black
• 3:26
  executives
• 3:27
  on
• 3:27
  $114
• 3:28
  billion
• 3:28
  industry,
• 3:29
  my
• 3:29
  claim
• 3:30
  to
• 3:30
  fame
• 3:30
  is
• 3:30
  taking
• 3:30
  a
• 3:31
  company
• 3:31
  from
• 3:31
  800
• 3:31
  to
• 3:31
  15,000
• 3:32
  to
• 3:32
  17
• 3:33
  and
• 3:33
  a
• 3:33
  half
• 3:33
  million
• 3:33
  in
• 3:33
  four
• 3:34
  years.
• 3:34
  And
• 3:34
  so
• 3:35
  my,
• 3:35
  the
• 3:35
  mantra
• 3:36
  that
• 3:36
  I
• 3:36
  have
• 3:36
  in
• 3:37
  my
• 3:37
  space
• 3:37
  or
• 3:37
  what
• 3:37
  people
• 3:38
  know
• 3:38
  of
• 3:38
  me
• 3:38
  is
• 3:38
  that
• 3:38
  I
• 3:38
  know
• 3:38
  how
• 3:39
  to
• 3:39
  drive
• 3:39
  the
• 3:39
  business.
• 3:39
  And
• 3:40
  I
• 3:40
  like
• 3:40
  building
• 3:40
  businesses.
• 3:41
  One
• 3:41
  of
• 3:41
  the
• 3:41
  greatest
• 3:42
  builds
• 3:42
  businesses
• 3:43
  that
• 3:43
  we
• 3:43
  have,
• 3:43
  which
• 3:44
  we're
• 3:44
  not
• 3:44
  a
• 3:44
  nonprofit,
• 3:45
  we
• 3:45
  are
• 3:45
  a
• 3:45
  for-profit
• 3:46
  business,
• 3:46
  which
• 3:46
  is
• 3:46
  black
• 3:46
  folks.
• 3:47
  Can't
• 3:47
  too
• 3:48
  is
• 3:48
  the
• 3:48
  legacy
• 3:49
  of
• 3:49
  inviting,
• 3:50
  educating
• 3:51
  and
• 3:52
  removing
• 3:52
  them,
• 3:53
  leaving
• 3:53
  that
• 3:53
  generation
• 3:54
  of
• 3:54
  fear
• 3:54
  from
• 3:55
  folks
• 3:55
  that
• 3:55
  look
• 3:55
  like
• 3:55
  me
• 3:55
  to
• 3:56
  enjoy
• 3:56
  not
• 3:57
  only
• 3:57
  just
• 3:57
  public
• 3:57
  lands,
• 3:58
  but
• 3:58
  the
• 3:59
  RV
• 3:59
  industry,
• 4:00
  the
• 4:00
  RV
• 4:00
  lifestyle,
• 4:00
  camp
• 4:01
  grounds,
• 4:01
  and
• 4:01
  all
• 4:01
  that
• 4:01
  kind
• 4:02
  of
• 4:02
  good
• 4:02
  stuff.
• 4:03
  At
• 4:03
  the
• 4:03
  end
• 4:03
  of
• 4:03
  the
• 4:03
  day,
• 4:04
  if
• 4:04
  you
• 4:04
  can't,
• 4:05
  if
• 4:05
  you've
• 4:05
  been
• 4:05
  camping
• 4:06
  for
• 4:06
  a
• 4:06
  long
• 4:06
  time,
• 4:06
  you
• 4:07
  hadn't
• 4:07
  seen
• 4:07
  many
• 4:07
  folks
• 4:07
  that
• 4:08
  looked
• 4:08
  like
• 4:08
  me
• 4:08
  and
• 4:09
  our
• 4:09
  job
• 4:09
  is
• 4:09
  not
• 4:09
  to
• 4:09
  build
• 4:10
  a
• 4:10
  segregated
• 4:11
  outdoors.
• 4:11
  Our
• 4:11
  job
• 4:12
  is
• 4:12
  to
• 4:12
  build
• 4:12
  a
• 4:13
  truly
• 4:14
  inclusive
• 4:14
  outdoors.
• 4:15
  And
• 4:16
  the
• 4:16
  campfire
• 4:17
  in
• 4:17
  our
• 4:17
  logo
• 4:17
  is
• 4:17
  certainly
• 4:18
  what
• 4:18
  we
• 4:18
  want
• 4:19
  to
• 4:19
  build
• 4:19
  around.
• 4:19
  So
• 4:20
  I
• 4:20
  look
• 4:20
  forward
• 4:20
  to
• 4:20
  having
• 4:20
  this
• 4:20
  conversation
• 4:21
  with
• 4:21
  y'all
• 4:22
  just
• 4:22
  to
• 4:22
  warn
• 4:22
  everyone,
• 4:23
  I
• 4:23
  don't
• 4:23
  sugar
• 4:23
  coat,
• 4:23
  anything
• 4:24
  when
• 4:24
  it
• 4:24
  comes
• 4:24
  to
• 4:24
  this,
• 4:24
  because
• 4:25
  I'm
• 4:25
  a
• 4:25
  data,
• 4:25
  we're
• 4:26
  a
• 4:26
  data
• 4:26
  company.
• 4:27
  We're
• 4:27
  not
• 4:27
  a
• 4:27
  group,
• 4:28
  we're
• 4:28
  not
• 4:28
  a
• 4:28
  club
• 4:29
  and
• 4:29
  I've
• 4:29
  spent
• 4:29
  a
• 4:29
  ton
• 4:30
  of
• 4:30
  money
• 4:30
  on
• 4:30
  data.
• 4:31
  And
• 4:31
  so
• 4:31
  I
• 4:31
  don't
• 4:31
  deal
• 4:32
  in
• 4:32
  opinions
• 4:32
  I
• 4:32
  did
• 4:32
  in
• 4:32
  facts.
• 4:33
  Good.
• 4:33
  That's
• 4:33
  what
• 4:34
  we
• 4:34
  really
• 4:34
  like.
• 4:34
  Please.
• 4:34
  Don't
• 4:35
  sugar
• 4:35
  coat,
• 4:35
  anything
• 4:35
  for
• 4:36
  us?
• 4:36
  I
• 4:36
  like
• 4:36
  that.
• 4:36
  I
• 4:36
  appreciate
• 4:37
  that.
• 4:37
  And
• 4:37
  I
• 4:37
  respect
• 4:38
  that.
• 4:38
  So
• 4:38
  before
• 4:39
  we
• 4:39
  go
• 4:39
  onto
• 4:39
  the
• 4:39
  next
• 4:39
  person,
• 4:40
  what
• 4:40
  does
• 4:40
  diversity
• 4:40
  mean
• 4:41
  to
• 4:41
  you?
• 4:41
  Just,
• 4:41
  I
• 4:41
  know
• 4:41
  that's
• 4:42
  a
• 4:42
  broad
• 4:42
  thing
• 4:43
  and
• 4:43
  it's
• 4:43
  intentionally
• 4:44
  that
• 4:44
  way,
• 4:44
  but
• 4:44
  what
• 4:44
  does
• 4:44
  it
• 4:44
  mean
• 4:44
  to
• 4:45
  you?
• 4:45
  Diversity,
• 4:45
  but
• 4:45
  diversity
• 4:46
  for
• 4:46
  me
• 4:46
  is
• 4:47
  treating
• 4:47
  everyone
• 4:47
  everywhere
• 4:48
  equally,
• 4:48
  right?
• 4:48
  And
• 4:49
  that's
• 4:49
  what
• 4:49
  we
• 4:49
  stand
• 4:49
  for.
• 4:50
  I
• 4:50
  want
• 4:50
  folks
• 4:50
  to
• 4:51
  feel
• 4:51
  welcome
• 4:51
  the
• 4:51
  matter
• 4:52
  your
• 4:52
  race,
• 4:52
  your
• 4:52
  age,
• 4:52
  your
• 4:53
  gender.
• 4:53
  I
• 4:53
  want
• 4:54
  folks
• 4:54
  to
• 4:54
  feel
• 4:54
  welcome
• 4:54
  in
• 4:55
  the
• 4:55
  outdoors,
• 4:55
  particularly
• 4:55
  in
• 4:56
  the
• 4:56
  640
• 4:56
  million
• 4:57
  acres
• 4:57
  of
• 4:57
  public
• 4:57
  land
• 4:58
  that
• 4:58
  we
• 4:58
  own,
• 4:59
  that
• 4:59
  we
• 4:59
  all
• 4:59
  own.
• 5:00
  I
• 5:00
  want
• 5:00
  folks
• 5:01
  to
• 5:01
  feel
• 5:01
  like
• 5:02
  it
• 5:02
  doesn't
• 5:02
  matter
• 5:02
  again,
• 5:03
  your
• 5:03
  race,
• 5:03
  your
• 5:03
  age,
• 5:04
  your
• 5:04
  agenda,
• 5:04
  you
• 5:04
  should
• 5:04
  be
• 5:05
  welcomed
• 5:05
  into
• 5:05
  a
• 5:05
  space
• 5:06
  where
• 5:06
  people
• 5:07
  treat
• 5:07
  you
• 5:07
  with
• 5:07
  respect.
• 5:08
  And
• 5:08
  before
• 5:08
  that,
• 5:09
  from
• 5:09
  a
• 5:09
  standpoint
• 5:09
  of
• 5:10
  diversity,
• 5:10
  I
• 5:11
  think
• 5:11
  if
• 5:12
  you
• 5:12
  look
• 5:12
  at
• 5:12
  every
• 5:12
  other
• 5:13
  industry,
• 5:14
  besides
• 5:15
  the
• 5:15
  outdoor
• 5:15
  industry
• 5:16
  diversity
• 5:16
  all
• 5:16
  over
• 5:17
  the
• 5:17
  place
• 5:17
  and
• 5:17
  those
• 5:17
  industries
• 5:18
  are
• 5:18
  better.
• 5:18
  Our
• 5:19
  industry,
• 5:19
  which
• 5:19
  is
• 5:19
  the
• 5:19
  outdoor
• 5:20
  industry
• 5:20
  will
• 5:20
  get
• 5:20
  better
• 5:21
  when
• 5:21
  we
• 5:21
  have
• 5:22
  more
• 5:22
  diversity
• 5:22
  in
• 5:22
  this
• 5:23
  space.
• 5:25
  Awesome.
• 5:25
  Thank
• 5:26
  you
• 5:26
  so
• 5:26
  much,
• 5:26
  sir.
• 5:26
  David
• 5:27
  and
• 5:27
  Eddie,
• 5:27
  you
• 5:27
  want
• 5:27
  to
• 5:27
  go
• 5:27
  next?
• 5:28
  Yeah,
• 5:29
  sure.
• 5:29
  Thanks
• 5:29
  so
• 5:29
  much.
• 5:30
  And
• 5:30
  it's
• 5:30
  great
• 5:30
  to
• 5:30
  be
• 5:30
  here.
• 5:31
  We
• 5:31
  are
• 5:32
  David
• 5:32
  and
• 5:32
  Eddie.
• 5:33
  We
• 5:33
  have
• 5:33
  a
• 5:34
  YouTube
• 5:34
  channel
• 5:34
  called
• 5:35
  full-time
• 5:35
  gaze
• 5:36
  that
• 5:36
  we
• 5:36
  started
• 5:36
  a
• 5:36
  couple
• 5:36
  of
• 5:37
  years
• 5:37
  ago
• 5:37
  has
• 5:37
  a
• 5:37
  few
• 5:38
  thousand
• 5:38
  followers
• 5:39
  on
• 5:39
  it.
• 5:39
  And
• 5:40
  what
• 5:40
  we
• 5:40
  do
• 5:40
  is
• 5:40
  we
• 5:41
  live
• 5:41
  full-time
• 5:42
  in
• 5:42
  our
• 5:43
  43
• 5:43
  foot
• 5:44
  fifth
• 5:44
  wheel.
• 5:44
  We've
• 5:44
  been
• 5:44
  doing
• 5:45
  that
• 5:45
  for
• 5:45
  about
• 5:45
  three
• 5:46
  and
• 5:46
  a
• 5:46
  half
• 5:46
  years.
• 5:46
  We
• 5:47
  started
• 5:47
  the
• 5:47
  channel
• 5:48
  a
• 5:48
  while
• 5:48
  on
• 5:48
  a
• 5:48
  road
• 5:49
  trip
• 5:49
  around
• 5:49
  the
• 5:49
  country
• 5:50
  a
• 5:50
  couple
• 5:50
  of
• 5:50
  years
• 5:51
  back
• 5:52
  when
• 5:53
  we
• 5:53
  realized
• 5:53
  that
• 5:53
  all
• 5:54
  of
• 5:54
  the
• 5:54
  things
• 5:54
  that
• 5:54
  we
• 5:54
  were
• 5:54
  trying
• 5:55
  to
• 5:55
  find
• 5:55
  out
• 5:55
  about
• 5:56
  getting
• 5:56
  to
• 5:56
  a
• 5:56
  campground,
• 5:56
  not
• 5:57
  necessarily
• 5:57
  gay
• 5:58
  camp
• 5:58
  grounds
• 5:58
  person,
• 5:59
  LGBT
• 5:59
  oriented
• 6:00
  campgrounds,
• 6:00
  but
• 6:00
  any,
• 6:01
  there,
• 6:02
  there
• 6:02
  were
• 6:02
  a
• 6:02
  lot
• 6:02
  of
• 6:02
  unanswered
• 6:03
  questions
• 6:03
  on
• 6:04
  a
• 6:04
  lot
• 6:04
  of
• 6:04
  websites
• 6:04
  in
• 6:04
  terms
• 6:05
  of
• 6:05
  how
• 6:05
  easy
• 6:05
  is
• 6:05
  it
• 6:06
  for
• 6:06
  a
• 6:06
  big
• 6:06
  rig
• 6:06
  to
• 6:06
  get
• 6:07
  to
• 6:07
  a
• 6:07
  campground?
• 6:08
  How
• 6:08
  is
• 6:08
  the.
• 6:09
  Availability
• 6:10
  there,
• 6:10
  whether
• 6:11
  it's
• 6:11
  three,
• 6:11
  a
• 6:11
  through
• 6:12
  wifi
• 6:12
  or
• 6:13
  a
• 6:14
  cell
• 6:15
  phone
• 6:15
  signal,
• 6:15
  if
• 6:15
  people
• 6:16
  have
• 6:16
  hotspots
• 6:16
  in
• 6:17
  order
• 6:17
  to
• 6:17
  make
• 6:17
  sure
• 6:17
  that
• 6:18
  people
• 6:18
  like
• 6:18
  us
• 6:18
  that
• 6:18
  work
• 6:19
  full-time
• 6:19
  can
• 6:19
  work
• 6:20
  while
• 6:21
  we
• 6:21
  travel.
• 6:21
  And
• 6:22
  then
• 6:22
  also
• 6:22
  there
• 6:22
  was
• 6:23
  not
• 6:23
  a
• 6:23
  really
• 6:23
  good
• 6:23
  resource
• 6:24
  that
• 6:24
  we
• 6:24
  found
• 6:24
  that
• 6:25
  reviewed
• 6:25
  campgrounds
• 6:26
  based
• 6:27
  on
• 6:27
  those
• 6:27
  and
• 6:27
  other
• 6:27
  factors
• 6:28
  in
• 6:28
  the
• 6:28
  LGBT
• 6:29
  community
• 6:29
  and
• 6:30
  while
• 6:30
  gay
• 6:30
  and
• 6:30
  lesbian
• 6:31
  and
• 6:31
  bisexual
• 6:31
  and
• 6:31
  transgender
• 6:32
  folks.
• 6:32
  Don't
• 6:32
  just
• 6:33
  camp
• 6:33
  at
• 6:34
  quote
• 6:34
  unquote
• 6:35
  LGBT
• 6:36
  focused
• 6:36
  campgrounds
• 6:37
  to
• 6:37
  the
• 6:37
  earlier
• 6:38
  point
• 6:38
  where
• 6:39
  everywhere
• 6:40
  there
• 6:40
  are
• 6:40
  a
• 6:40
  network
• 6:41
  of
• 6:41
  about
• 6:41
  60
• 6:41
  campgrounds
• 6:42
  throughout
• 6:42
  north
• 6:43
  America
• 6:43
  that
• 6:43
  do
• 6:43
  cater
• 6:44
  to
• 6:44
  that
• 6:44
  audience.
• 6:45
  And
• 6:45
  so
• 6:45
  we
• 6:46
  decided
• 6:46
  that
• 6:46
  we
• 6:46
  would
• 6:47
  try
• 6:47
  to
• 6:47
  fill
• 6:47
  that
• 6:47
  niche
• 6:47
  in
• 6:47
  the
• 6:47
  market.
• 6:48
  Give
• 6:48
  our
• 6:48
  thoughts.
• 6:49
  Our
• 6:49
  2
• 6:49
  cents
• 6:49
  is
• 6:50
  objectively
• 6:50
  as
• 6:51
  possible.
• 6:51
  In
• 6:51
  terms
• 6:51
  of
• 6:51
  the
• 6:52
  vibe,
• 6:52
  getting
• 6:52
  there
• 6:53
  with
• 6:53
  big
• 6:53
  rigs,
• 6:53
  what
• 6:53
  kind
• 6:54
  of
• 6:54
  grounds
• 6:54
  that
• 6:54
  facilities
• 6:55
  as
• 6:55
  a
• 6:55
  campground
• 6:55
  have.
• 6:56
  And
• 6:56
  then
• 6:56
  as
• 6:56
  I
• 6:56
  mentioned,
• 6:56
  the.
• 6:57
  And
• 6:58
  it
• 6:58
  just
• 6:58
  happened
• 6:58
  to
• 6:59
  take
• 6:59
  off
• 6:59
  and
• 7:00
  now
• 7:00
  everywhere
• 7:00
  we
• 7:00
  go,
• 7:01
  we
• 7:01
  get
• 7:01
  recognized
• 7:02
  and
• 7:02
  we're
• 7:02
  future
• 7:03
  campground
• 7:04
  owners,
• 7:04
  ourselves
• 7:05
  that
• 7:05
  we're
• 7:05
  aspiring
• 7:06
  to
• 7:06
  be
• 7:06
  that.
• 7:07
  And
• 7:07
  so
• 7:07
  we
• 7:07
  do
• 7:08
  this,
• 7:08
  not
• 7:08
  just
• 7:08
  to
• 7:08
  help
• 7:09
  other
• 7:09
  people,
• 7:09
  but
• 7:09
  to
• 7:09
  educate
• 7:10
  ourselves
• 7:10
  as
• 7:10
  well.
• 7:12
  Yeah.
• 7:12
  We
• 7:12
  also
• 7:13
  wanted
• 7:13
  to
• 7:13
  make
• 7:13
  sure
• 7:13
  that
• 7:14
  the
• 7:14
  LGBT
• 7:15
  community
• 7:15
  also
• 7:15
  knew
• 7:16
  that
• 7:16
  there
• 7:16
  were
• 7:16
  camping
• 7:17
  options
• 7:17
  for
• 7:18
  them.
• 7:18
  So
• 7:18
  even
• 7:18
  if
• 7:18
  they
• 7:18
  didn't
• 7:19
  walk
• 7:19
  since
• 7:19
  they
• 7:20
  let's
• 7:20
  say
• 7:20
  a
• 7:20
  state
• 7:20
  park
• 7:21
  or
• 7:21
  a
• 7:21
  national
• 7:21
  park,
• 7:22
  but
• 7:22
  there
• 7:22
  was
• 7:22
  actually
• 7:22
  venues
• 7:23
  that
• 7:23
  they
• 7:23
  can
• 7:23
  go
• 7:23
  to
• 7:24
  that
• 7:24
  was
• 7:24
  focused
• 7:25
  on
• 7:25
  their
• 7:25
  needs.
• 7:28
  Okay.
• 7:29
  Awesome.
• 7:29
  And
• 7:29
  what
• 7:30
  does
• 7:30
  diversity
• 7:30
  mean
• 7:31
  to
• 7:31
  both
• 7:31
  of
• 7:31
  you?
• 7:33
  It's
• 7:33
  a
• 7:33
  great
• 7:34
  question
• 7:34
  and
• 7:35
  it
• 7:36
  goes
• 7:36
  way
• 7:36
  beyond
• 7:37
  LGBT
• 7:38
  or
• 7:38
  even
• 7:38
  color
• 7:39
  is
• 7:39
  skin
• 7:39
  color
• 7:40
  or
• 7:40
  religion.
• 7:41
  If
• 7:41
  we're
• 7:41
  focusing,
• 7:41
  if
• 7:42
  we're
• 7:42
  focusing
• 7:42
  on
• 7:43
  the
• 7:43
  LGBT
• 7:43
  aspect
• 7:44
  of
• 7:44
  it,
• 7:44
  historically.
• 7:46
  Gay
• 7:46
  folks
• 7:47
  have
• 7:47
  had
• 7:47
  to
• 7:47
  go,
• 7:48
  way
• 7:48
  back
• 7:48
  in
• 7:49
  the
• 7:49
  day
• 7:49
  to
• 7:50
  bars,
• 7:50
  to
• 7:51
  incognito
• 7:51
  the
• 7:51
  speakeasy
• 7:52
  bars.
• 7:53
  That's
• 7:53
  of
• 7:53
  course
• 7:53
  opened
• 7:54
  up.
• 7:54
  As
• 7:54
  we
• 7:54
  all
• 7:54
  know
• 7:55
  over
• 7:55
  the
• 7:55
  past
• 7:55
  several
• 7:55
  years,
• 7:55
  at
• 7:56
  least
• 7:56
  in
• 7:56
  a
• 7:56
  lot
• 7:56
  of
• 7:56
  areas,
• 7:56
  there's
• 7:57
  still
• 7:57
  a
• 7:57
  lot
• 7:57
  of
• 7:57
  areas
• 7:57
  that
• 7:58
  have
• 7:58
  a
• 7:58
  lot
• 7:58
  of,
• 7:58
  a
• 7:58
  lot
• 7:59
  more
• 7:59
  progress
• 7:59
  to
• 7:59
  make.
• 8:00
  But
• 8:00
  really
• 8:00
  it's
• 8:00
  depend
• 8:01
  demic
• 8:01
  kit
• 8:01
  is
• 8:02
  especially
• 8:03
  a
• 8:03
  lot
• 8:04
  of
• 8:04
  folks
• 8:04
  that
• 8:05
  had
• 8:05
  a
• 8:05
  refuge,
• 8:07
  a
• 8:07
  safe
• 8:07
  space
• 8:08
  at
• 8:08
  the
• 8:08
  gates,
• 8:09
  et
• 8:09
  cetera,
• 8:10
  in
• 8:10
  the
• 8:10
  big
• 8:10
  cities.
• 8:11
  And
• 8:11
  then
• 8:12
  those
• 8:12
  that
• 8:12
  don't
• 8:12
  live
• 8:12
  in
• 8:12
  the
• 8:12
  big
• 8:13
  cities
• 8:13
  that
• 8:13
  never
• 8:13
  had
• 8:14
  that
• 8:14
  suddenly
• 8:15
  camping
• 8:15
  became
• 8:16
  an
• 8:16
  alternative
• 8:16
  like,
• 8:17
  Hey,
• 8:17
  I
• 8:17
  can
• 8:17
  still
• 8:18
  do
• 8:18
  something.
• 8:18
  I
• 8:19
  can
• 8:19
  still
• 8:19
  socialize
• 8:20
  in
• 8:20
  a
• 8:20
  reasonably
• 8:21
  safe
• 8:22
  way
• 8:22
  with
• 8:22
  precautions
• 8:23
  that
• 8:23
  potentially
• 8:24
  open
• 8:25
  during
• 8:25
  the
• 8:25
  pandemic.
• 8:26
  Let
• 8:26
  me
• 8:26
  go
• 8:26
  explore
• 8:27
  this.
• 8:28
  And
• 8:28
  as
• 8:28
  a
• 8:28
  results
• 8:29
  gay
• 8:29
  camping
• 8:30
  as
• 8:30
  a,
• 8:30
  as
• 8:30
  an
• 8:31
  industry
• 8:31
  is
• 8:32
  in
• 8:32
  a
• 8:32
  boom
• 8:32
  right
• 8:33
  now
• 8:33
  in
• 8:33
  continues
• 8:34
  even
• 8:34
  as
• 8:35
  COVID
• 8:35
  restrictions
• 8:36
  are
• 8:36
  easing.
• 8:36
  And
• 8:36
  so
• 8:36
  diversity
• 8:37
  really
• 8:37
  is
• 8:38
  in
• 8:38
  addition
• 8:39
  to
• 8:39
  just
• 8:39
  being
• 8:39
  LGBT
• 8:40
  it's
• 8:40
  the
• 8:40
  fact
• 8:41
  that.
• 8:42
  It's
• 8:42
  opening
• 8:43
  up
• 8:43
  a
• 8:43
  new
• 8:44
  avenue
• 8:44
  of
• 8:44
  recreation
• 8:45
  for
• 8:45
  folks
• 8:46
  in
• 8:46
  a
• 8:46
  quote
• 8:47
  unquote
• 8:47
  safe
• 8:47
  space
• 8:48
  that
• 8:48
  maybe
• 8:49
  they
• 8:49
  didn't
• 8:49
  know
• 8:49
  about
• 8:49
  the
• 8:50
  four,
• 8:50
  maybe
• 8:51
  they're
• 8:51
  going
• 8:51
  by
• 8:51
  necessity.
• 8:52
  But
• 8:52
  now
• 8:53
  that
• 8:53
  they're
• 8:53
  seeing
• 8:53
  it,
• 8:54
  now
• 8:54
  that
• 8:54
  they're
• 8:54
  experiencing,
• 8:55
  Hey,
• 8:55
  you
• 8:55
  can
• 8:55
  go
• 8:55
  RV.
• 8:56
  You
• 8:56
  can
• 8:56
  go
• 8:56
  in
• 8:56
  a
• 8:56
  tent,
• 8:56
  you
• 8:57
  can
• 8:57
  rent
• 8:57
  a
• 8:57
  cabin
• 8:58
  suddenly.
• 8:58
  Now
• 8:59
  it's
• 8:59
  not
• 8:59
  just
• 8:59
  about
• 9:00
  being
• 9:00
  in
• 9:00
  the
• 9:00
  city.
• 9:00
  It's
• 9:00
  not
• 9:00
  just
• 9:01
  about
• 9:01
  going
• 9:01
  downtown
• 9:02
  to
• 9:02
  the
• 9:02
  gayborhood.
• 9:03
  There's
• 9:03
  a
• 9:03
  lot
• 9:03
  more
• 9:03
  out
• 9:03
  there
• 9:04
  and
• 9:04
  you
• 9:04
  can
• 9:04
  do
• 9:04
  it
• 9:05
  in
• 9:05
  a
• 9:05
  beautiful
• 9:06
  serene
• 9:07
  setting.
• 9:07
  You
• 9:07
  can
• 9:08
  do
• 9:08
  it
• 9:08
  outside
• 9:08
  of
• 9:08
  the
• 9:08
  cities.
• 9:09
  You
• 9:09
  can
• 9:09
  do
• 9:09
  it
• 9:09
  in
• 9:09
  traditionally
• 9:10
  conservative
• 9:10
  areas.
• 9:11
  And
• 9:12
  by
• 9:12
  and
• 9:13
  large
• 9:13
  people
• 9:13
  are
• 9:13
  with
• 9:14
  welcoming
• 9:14
  and
• 9:14
  embracing
• 9:15
  of
• 9:15
  it.
• 9:18
  David
• 9:18
  anything
• 9:19
  to
• 9:19
  add?
• 9:21
  Yeah.
• 9:21
  It's
• 9:21
  not
• 9:22
  just,
• 9:22
  what
• 9:22
  David
• 9:22
  had
• 9:23
  has
• 9:23
  said,
• 9:23
  but
• 9:23
  to
• 9:23
  add
• 9:23
  to
• 9:24
  that
• 9:24
  is,
• 9:25
  folks
• 9:25
  who
• 9:25
  would
• 9:25
  typically
• 9:25
  go
• 9:26
  to
• 9:26
  a
• 9:26
  bar
• 9:27
  in
• 9:27
  their
• 9:27
  city
• 9:28
  would
• 9:29
  find
• 9:29
  their
• 9:29
  crowd.
• 9:30
  Now
• 9:30
  they're
• 9:30
  going
• 9:31
  out
• 9:31
  and
• 9:31
  camping
• 9:31
  and
• 9:32
  they're
• 9:32
  finding
• 9:32
  a
• 9:32
  whole
• 9:32
  mix
• 9:33
  of
• 9:33
  crowds,
• 9:34
  whether
• 9:34
  it
• 9:34
  be
• 9:34
  someone
• 9:35
  of
• 9:35
  a
• 9:35
  different
• 9:35
  color
• 9:36
  or
• 9:36
  gender
• 9:37
  or
• 9:37
  identity
• 9:39
  age,
• 9:39
  they're
• 9:39
  all
• 9:39
  mixing
• 9:40
  and
• 9:40
  mingling
• 9:41
  in
• 9:41
  these
• 9:41
  campgrounds.
• 9:42
  And
• 9:42
  it's
• 9:43
  really
• 9:43
  nice
• 9:43
  to
• 9:43
  see
• 9:43
  that
• 9:43
  we're
• 9:43
  getting
• 9:44
  away
• 9:44
  from
• 9:44
  we're
• 9:45
  having
• 9:45
  just
• 9:45
  a
• 9:45
  gay
• 9:46
  venue
• 9:46
  or
• 9:46
  a
• 9:46
  straight
• 9:47
  venue
• 9:48
  is
• 9:48
  now
• 9:48
  all
• 9:48
  coming
• 9:49
  together.
• 9:50
  Yeah.
• 9:52
  Awesome.
• 9:52
  Lindsay,
• 9:53
  you
• 9:53
  want
• 9:53
  to
• 9:53
  go
• 9:53
  next?
• 9:55
  Sure
• 9:55
  thing.
• 9:56
  I
• 9:56
  can
• 9:56
  do
• 9:56
  that.
• 9:57
  Hi
• 9:57
  everyone.
• 9:58
  So
• 9:58
  great
• 9:59
  to
• 9:59
  see
• 9:59
  some
• 9:59
  familiar
• 10:00
  faces
• 10:00
  and
• 10:00
  meet
• 10:01
  some
• 10:01
  of
• 10:01
  them
• 10:01
  meet
• 10:01
  some
• 10:02
  new
• 10:02
  ones.
• 10:03
  And
• 10:03
  for
• 10:03
  me,
• 10:04
  I.
• 10:05
  Involved
• 10:06
  specifically
• 10:06
  in
• 10:07
  diversity,
• 10:08
  disability,
• 10:08
  equity
• 10:08
  and
• 10:09
  inclusion.
• 10:09
  And
• 10:09
  when
• 10:09
  it
• 10:10
  comes
• 10:10
  to
• 10:10
  the
• 10:10
  outdoor
• 10:11
  space,
• 10:12
  a
• 10:12
  couple
• 10:12
  of
• 10:12
  years
• 10:12
  ago,
• 10:13
  I
• 10:13
  started
• 10:13
  a
• 10:14
  company
• 10:14
  that
• 10:15
  no
• 10:15
  longer
• 10:16
  exists
• 10:16
  anymore,
• 10:16
  but
• 10:17
  I
• 10:17
  started
• 10:17
  a
• 10:17
  company
• 10:18
  called
• 10:18
  Ventre
• 10:19
  and
• 10:19
  it
• 10:19
  was
• 10:19
  a
• 10:19
  mobile
• 10:19
  app
• 10:20
  that
• 10:20
  may
• 10:20
  go
• 10:20
  in
• 10:20
  places
• 10:20
  easy
• 10:21
  and
• 10:21
  safe
• 10:21
  for
• 10:21
  diverse
• 10:22
  communities,
• 10:22
  whether
• 10:22
  that
• 10:23
  was
• 10:23
  LGBTQ
• 10:24
  folks
• 10:24
  with
• 10:24
  disabilities,
• 10:25
  folks
• 10:25
  of
• 10:26
  color,
• 10:26
  whatever,
• 10:26
  any,
• 10:27
  and
• 10:27
  all
• 10:27
  boxes
• 10:27
  you
• 10:27
  checked.
• 10:27
  We
• 10:28
  wanted
• 10:28
  to
• 10:28
  make
• 10:28
  sure
• 10:28
  that
• 10:29
  you
• 10:29
  could
• 10:29
  go
• 10:29
  places
• 10:29
  safely
• 10:30
  and
• 10:30
  have
• 10:30
  a
• 10:30
  really
• 10:30
  great
• 10:31
  experience
• 10:31
  when
• 10:31
  you
• 10:31
  got
• 10:31
  there.
• 10:32
  And
• 10:32
  me,
• 10:33
  my
• 10:33
  background
• 10:34
  I've
• 10:34
  been
• 10:34
  in
• 10:34
  the
• 10:34
  music
• 10:35
  industry
• 10:35
  for
• 10:35
  the
• 10:35
  last
• 10:36
  10
• 10:36
  years
• 10:36
  or
• 10:36
  so
• 10:37
  prior
• 10:37
  to
• 10:37
  getting
• 10:37
  into
• 10:37
  the
• 10:38
  travel
• 10:38
  realm.
• 10:39
  And
• 10:39
  I
• 10:40
  have
• 10:40
  been
• 10:40
  a
• 10:40
  tour
• 10:40
  manager,
• 10:41
  worked
• 10:41
  primarily
• 10:41
  with
• 10:42
  hip
• 10:42
  hop
• 10:42
  groups,
• 10:43
  and
• 10:43
  most
• 10:44
  of
• 10:44
  those
• 10:44
  folks
• 10:44
  were
• 10:45
  all
• 10:45
  men
• 10:46
  of
• 10:46
  color.
• 10:46
  And
• 10:46
  the
• 10:46
  amount
• 10:47
  of
• 10:47
  times
• 10:47
  that
• 10:47
  I
• 10:48
  went
• 10:48
  back
• 10:48
  and
• 10:48
  forth
• 10:49
  across
• 10:49
  the
• 10:49
  country
• 10:50
  and
• 10:50
  had
• 10:51
  really
• 10:51
  negative
• 10:51
  interactions
• 10:52
  when.
• 10:54
  Really
• 10:54
  great
• 10:54
  reactions
• 10:55
  when
• 10:55
  I
• 10:55
  showed
• 10:56
  up
• 10:56
  to
• 10:56
  a
• 10:56
  hotel,
• 10:56
  but
• 10:56
  really
• 10:57
  negative
• 10:58
  reactions
• 10:58
  when
• 10:58
  other
• 10:59
  folks
• 10:59
  would
• 11:00
  join
• 11:00
  me
• 11:00
  from
• 11:00
  the
• 11:00
  band
• 11:01
  particularly
• 11:01
  folks
• 11:02
  at
• 11:02
  the
• 11:02
  front
• 11:02
  desk
• 11:02
  being
• 11:03
  very
• 11:03
  warm
• 11:03
  and
• 11:03
  kind
• 11:03
  to
• 11:04
  me,
• 11:04
  and
• 11:04
  then
• 11:04
  asking
• 11:04
  me,
• 11:05
  Hey,
• 11:05
  sweetie,
• 11:05
  do
• 11:05
  you
• 11:05
  need
• 11:06
  help
• 11:06
  getting
• 11:06
  away
• 11:06
  from
• 11:06
  them?
• 11:07
  Things
• 11:08
  like
• 11:08
  it
• 11:08
  didn't
• 11:08
  quite
• 11:09
  fly,
• 11:09
  hit
• 11:09
  up
• 11:09
  with
• 11:09
  me.
• 11:10
  And
• 11:10
  then
• 11:10
  in
• 11:10
  my
• 11:11
  personal
• 11:11
  life,
• 11:11
  I
• 11:12
  became
• 11:12
  of
• 11:12
  them
• 11:12
  over
• 11:13
  a
• 11:13
  couple
• 11:13
  years
• 11:13
  ago.
• 11:14
  Sold
• 11:14
  my
• 11:14
  van
• 11:15
  last
• 11:15
  year.
• 11:15
  David
• 11:15
  and
• 11:16
  Eddie.
• 11:16
  I
• 11:16
  I'm
• 11:16
  a
• 11:16
  little
• 11:16
  envious
• 11:17
  of
• 11:17
  seeing
• 11:18
  a
• 11:18
  singer
• 11:19
  rig
• 11:19
  right
• 11:19
  now,
• 11:20
  but
• 11:20
  we'll
• 11:20
  go
• 11:21
  through
• 11:21
  that
• 11:21
  road
• 11:21
  again
• 11:22
  soon.
• 11:22
  But
• 11:22
  on
• 11:22
  the
• 11:22
  personal
• 11:23
  side
• 11:23
  of
• 11:23
  things,
• 11:24
  when
• 11:24
  I
• 11:24
  had
• 11:24
  my
• 11:24
  then
• 11:25
  I
• 11:25
  was
• 11:25
  primarily
• 11:26
  by
• 11:26
  myself.
• 11:27
  But
• 11:27
  occasionally
• 11:27
  my
• 11:28
  partner
• 11:29
  and
• 11:29
  my
• 11:29
  daughter
• 11:30
  would
• 11:30
  come
• 11:30
  with
• 11:30
  me.
• 11:31
  My
• 11:31
  partner
• 11:31
  is
• 11:32
  an
• 11:32
  Afro-Latino
• 11:32
  women
• 11:33
  and
• 11:33
  my
• 11:33
  daughter
• 11:33
  is
• 11:34
  a,
• 11:34
  is
• 11:35
  black
• 11:35
  and
• 11:35
  soaps.
• 11:37
  It
• 11:37
  was
• 11:37
  really
• 11:38
  eye
• 11:38
  opening
• 11:38
  for
• 11:38
  me
• 11:39
  on
• 11:39
  the
• 11:39
  personal
• 11:39
  side
• 11:40
  of
• 11:40
  things,
• 11:40
  as
• 11:40
  well
• 11:40
  as
• 11:40
  the
• 11:40
  professional
• 11:41
  side
• 11:41
  of
• 11:41
  things,
• 11:41
  to
• 11:41
  see
• 11:42
  how,
• 11:42
  I'm
• 11:42
  able
• 11:43
  to
• 11:43
  navigate
• 11:43
  through
• 11:43
  the
• 11:43
  world
• 11:44
  and
• 11:44
  not
• 11:44
  really
• 11:44
  run
• 11:44
  into
• 11:44
  any
• 11:45
  issues,
• 11:45
  but
• 11:45
  anytime
• 11:46
  that
• 11:46
  I'm
• 11:46
  bringing
• 11:46
  people,
• 11:46
  I
• 11:46
  care
• 11:47
  about
• 11:47
  how
• 11:47
  it
• 11:47
  impacts
• 11:48
  them.
• 11:48
  And
• 11:49
  so
• 11:49
  I'm
• 11:49
  very
• 11:49
  passionate
• 11:50
  about
• 11:51
  all
• 11:51
  things
• 11:52
  diversity,
• 11:53
  disability,
• 11:53
  equity,
• 11:54
  and
• 11:54
  inclusion,
• 11:54
  and
• 11:54
  I'm
• 11:55
  really
• 11:55
  excited
• 11:55
  to
• 11:55
  figure
• 11:56
  out
• 11:56
  how
• 11:56
  we
• 11:56
  can
• 11:56
  all
• 11:57
  come
• 11:57
  together
• 11:58
  to
• 11:58
  figure
• 11:58
  out
• 11:58
  new
• 11:59
  and
• 11:59
  creative
• 11:59
  ways
• 11:59
  just
• 12:00
  to
• 12:00
  make
• 12:00
  things
• 12:00
  better
• 12:01
  for
• 12:01
  everyone,
• 12:01
  especially
• 12:02
  when
• 12:02
  it
• 12:02
  comes
• 12:02
  to
• 12:02
  the
• 12:03
  outdoors,
• 12:03
  because
• 12:03
  everyone
• 12:04
  deserves
• 12:04
  to
• 12:04
  be
• 12:04
  able
• 12:05
  to
• 12:05
  get
• 12:05
  outdoors
• 12:05
  in
• 12:06
  a
• 12:06
  safe
• 12:06
  way.
• 12:08
  And
• 12:08
  what
• 12:08
  it's,
• 12:09
  what
• 12:09
  does
• 12:09
  diversity
• 12:10
  mean
• 12:10
  to
• 12:10
  you,
• 12:10
  Lindsey?
• 12:12
  I
• 12:12
  think
• 12:12
  just
• 12:13
  to
• 12:13
  pull
• 12:13
  off
• 12:13
  of
• 12:13
  what
• 12:14
  Erlin
• 12:15
  and
• 12:15
  Dave
• 12:15
  and
• 12:16
  Eddie
• 12:16
  have
• 12:16
  already
• 12:16
  said,
• 12:17
  it's
• 12:17
  just
• 12:17
  it's
• 12:18
  I
• 12:19
  wish
• 12:19
  it
• 12:20
  was.
• 12:21
  I
• 12:22
  wish
• 12:22
  it
• 12:22
  didn't
• 12:22
  matter.
• 12:23
  I
• 12:24
  wish
• 12:24
  it
• 12:24
  could
• 12:24
  all
• 12:24
  be
• 12:25
  celebrated
• 12:25
  rather
• 12:26
  than
• 12:27
  using
• 12:27
  it
• 12:27
  to
• 12:28
  divide
• 12:28
  us.
• 12:28
  The
• 12:28
  fact
• 12:29
  that
• 12:29
  Al
• 12:30
  like
• 12:30
  I,
• 12:30
  I've
• 12:31
  pretty
• 12:31
  tight
• 12:31
  relationship
• 12:32
  with
• 12:32
  Al
• 12:32
  and
• 12:32
  I've
• 12:33
  chatted
• 12:33
  with
• 12:33
  Earl
• 12:34
  quite
• 12:34
  a
• 12:34
  bit.
• 12:34
  And
• 12:34
  I
• 12:34
  know
• 12:35
  that
• 12:35
  I've
• 12:35
  been
• 12:35
  there,
• 12:36
  unique
• 12:36
  stories,
• 12:37
  just
• 12:37
  make
• 12:37
  them
• 12:38
  that
• 12:38
  much
• 12:38
  more
• 12:38
  interesting
• 12:39
  in
• 12:39
  that,
• 12:39
  which
• 12:39
  we're
• 12:39
  excited
• 12:40
  to
• 12:40
  talk
• 12:40
  to
• 12:40
  and
• 12:40
  to
• 12:40
  hang
• 12:41
  out
• 12:41
  with.
• 12:41
  And
• 12:42
  that's
• 12:42
  what
• 12:42
  everyone
• 12:43
  brings
• 12:43
  to
• 12:43
  the
• 12:43
  table.
• 12:44
  And
• 12:44
  for
• 12:44
  me,
• 12:44
  I
• 12:44
  really
• 12:45
  truly
• 12:45
  believe
• 12:45
  that
• 12:45
  diversity
• 12:46
  is
• 12:46
  what
• 12:46
  drives
• 12:47
  creativity
• 12:48
  is
• 12:48
  what
• 12:48
  drives
• 12:48
  innovation.
• 12:49
  And
• 12:49
  if
• 12:49
  we
• 12:49
  can
• 12:49
  accept
• 12:50
  that,
• 12:50
  I
• 12:50
  won't
• 12:50
  get
• 12:51
  further
• 12:51
  rather
• 12:51
  than
• 12:51
  fighting
• 12:52
  it.
• 12:54
  Awesome.
• 12:54
  Thank
• 12:54
  you.
• 12:55
  And
• 12:55
  then
• 12:55
  Al
• 12:56
  last
• 12:56
  a
• 12:57
  mess
• 12:57
  for
• 12:57
  last
• 12:57
  maybe.
• 12:58
  Oh,
• 13:01
  thank
• 13:01
  you
• 13:01
  for
• 13:02
  having
• 13:02
  me
• 13:02
  on
• 13:02
  it's
• 13:03
  what
• 13:03
  were
• 13:03
  the
• 13:03
  questions
• 13:03
  again?
• 13:04
  I'm
• 13:04
  sorry.
• 13:04
  That
• 13:04
  was
• 13:05
  like
• 13:05
  really
• 13:05
  focused
• 13:05
  on
• 13:06
  what
• 13:06
  everybody
• 13:06
  else
• 13:06
  is
• 13:06
  saying.
• 13:06
  Introduce
• 13:07
  yourself,
• 13:07
  tell
• 13:08
  us
• 13:08
  why
• 13:08
  you
• 13:09
  feel
• 13:09
  like
• 13:09
  you
• 13:09
  can
• 13:09
  speak
• 13:10
  to
• 13:10
  this
• 13:10
  issue
• 13:10
  a
• 13:10
  little
• 13:11
  bit
• 13:11
  of
• 13:11
  your
• 13:11
  background
• 13:12
  how
• 13:12
  you're
• 13:12
  focused
• 13:12
  on
• 13:13
  diversity
• 13:13
  and
• 13:13
  then
• 13:13
  as
• 13:13
  a
• 13:13
  sidebar,
• 13:14
  what
• 13:14
  diversity
• 13:14
  means
• 13:15
  to
• 13:15
  you.
• 13:15
  Got
• 13:15
  it.
• 13:15
  Al
• 13:16
  burials
• 13:16
  founder
• 13:17
  and
• 13:17
  general
• 13:17
  manager
• 13:17
  out
• 13:18
  of
• 13:18
  there,
• 13:18
  out
• 13:18
  of
• 13:19
  things
• 13:19
  in
• 13:19
  New
• 13:19
  York
• 13:19
  city
• 13:19
  based
• 13:20
  tour
• 13:20
  operator,
• 13:20
  we
• 13:21
  operate
• 13:21
  a
• 13:21
  hundred
• 13:21
  tours
• 13:22
  a
• 13:22
  year
• 13:22
  now.
• 13:22
  One
• 13:22
  of
• 13:22
  the
• 13:22
  largest
• 13:23
  here
• 13:23
  in
• 13:23
  New
• 13:23
  York
• 13:23
  city
• 13:24
  and,
• 13:24
  being
• 13:25
  in
• 13:25
  New
• 13:25
  York
• 13:25
  has
• 13:25
  also
• 13:26
  is
• 13:26
  part
• 13:27
  of
• 13:27
  what
• 13:27
  started
• 13:28
  to
• 13:28
  change
• 13:28
  our
• 13:28
  focus
• 13:29
  from
• 13:29
  just
• 13:29
  the
• 13:30
  cultures
• 13:30
  of
• 13:30
  various
• 13:31
  cultures
• 13:31
  across
• 13:31
  all
• 13:32
  the
• 13:32
  activities
• 13:32
  that
• 13:32
  we
• 13:32
  operate
• 13:33
  towards
• 13:33
  her
• 13:33
  arm
• 13:34
  versus
• 13:34
  something
• 13:34
  a
• 13:34
  little
• 13:35
  bit
• 13:35
  more
• 13:35
  specific
• 13:35
  to
• 13:35
  the
• 13:36
  question
• 13:36
  of
• 13:36
  that.
• 13:37
  So
• 13:38
  unlike
• 13:38
  other
• 13:38
  tour
• 13:39
  operators
• 13:39
  we
• 13:39
  focused
• 13:40
  around,
• 13:40
  which
• 13:40
  means
• 13:40
  we're
• 13:40
  not
• 13:41
  just
• 13:41
  doing
• 13:41
  hikes
• 13:41
  and
• 13:41
  camping
• 13:42
  trips.
• 13:42
  We're
• 13:42
  also
• 13:42
  doing
• 13:43
  a
• 13:43
  bike
• 13:44
  tour,
• 13:44
  paddling
• 13:45
  trips,
• 13:45
  where
• 13:45
  there
• 13:45
  was
• 13:45
  skiing
• 13:46
  snowboarding.
• 13:46
  So
• 13:46
  we're
• 13:46
  operating
• 13:47
  year
• 13:47
  round
• 13:47
  and
• 13:48
  every
• 13:48
  one
• 13:48
  of
• 13:48
  those
• 13:48
  activities
• 13:49
  has
• 13:49
  their
• 13:49
  own
• 13:49
  culture
• 13:51
  associated
• 13:51
  with
• 13:51
  it.
• 13:52
  I'm
• 13:52
  sure
• 13:52
  that
• 13:52
  you've
• 13:52
  heard
• 13:52
  of
• 13:53
  ski
• 13:53
  bums
• 13:53
  and
• 13:54
  guys
• 13:54
  who
• 13:54
  surf
• 13:55
  guys.
• 13:55
  And,
• 13:55
  every
• 13:56
  culture
• 13:56
  now,
• 13:56
  those
• 13:56
  cultures
• 13:57
  are
• 13:57
  not
• 13:58
  always
• 13:58
  welcoming.
• 13:58
  And
• 13:58
  part
• 13:59
  of
• 13:59
  the
• 13:59
  reason
• 14:00
  they're
• 14:00
  not
• 14:00
  welcoming
• 14:00
  could
• 14:01
  be
• 14:01
  because
• 14:01
  it
• 14:02
  takes
• 14:02
  a
• 14:02
  lot
• 14:02
  of
• 14:02
  time
• 14:02
  and
• 14:02
  investment
• 14:03
  to
• 14:03
  get
• 14:03
  to
• 14:03
  become
• 14:04
  part
• 14:04
  of
• 14:04
  those
• 14:04
  cultures.
• 14:05
  They
• 14:05
  have
• 14:05
  their
• 14:05
  own
• 14:05
  language,
• 14:06
  which
• 14:06
  kind
• 14:07
  of
• 14:07
  makes
• 14:07
  it
• 14:07
  a
• 14:07
  little
• 14:07
  bit
• 14:07
  more
• 14:08
  exclusive
• 14:08
  if
• 14:08
  you
• 14:08
  don't
• 14:09
  know
• 14:09
  the
• 14:09
  language.
• 14:09
  And
• 14:10
  of
• 14:10
  course
• 14:10
  the
• 14:10
  big
• 14:10
  one,
• 14:11
  they
• 14:11
  have
• 14:11
  different
• 14:11
  types
• 14:12
  of
• 14:12
  investments
• 14:12
  that
• 14:12
  it
• 14:13
  requires
• 14:13
  to
• 14:13
  get
• 14:13
  into.
• 14:14
  So
• 14:14
  the
• 14:14
  investment
• 14:15
  in
• 14:15
  bouldering
• 14:16
  is
• 14:16
  one
• 14:16
  thing
• 14:17
  and
• 14:17
  investment
• 14:17
  in
• 14:17
  ice
• 14:18
  climbing.
• 14:18
  It's
• 14:18
  another,
• 14:18
  but
• 14:19
  it's
• 14:19
  part
• 14:19
  of
• 14:19
  how
• 14:20
  more,
• 14:20
  much
• 14:20
  more
• 14:20
  exclusive
• 14:21
  things
• 14:21
  get.
• 14:21
  So
• 14:22
  for
• 14:22
  me,
• 14:22
  things
• 14:23
  started
• 14:23
  around
• 14:23
  exclusivity,
• 14:24
  not
• 14:24
  necessarily
• 14:25
  diversity
• 14:25
  for
• 14:26
  this
• 14:26
  is
• 14:26
  my
• 14:27
  10th
• 14:27
  season
• 14:27
  I've
• 14:28
  been
• 14:28
  doing.
• 14:29
  And
• 14:29
  over
• 14:30
  years
• 14:30
  over
• 14:30
  the
• 14:30
  years,
• 14:31
  friends
• 14:31
  have
• 14:31
  not
• 14:31
  always
• 14:31
  wanted
• 14:32
  our
• 14:32
  guests
• 14:33
  have
• 14:33
  not
• 14:33
  always
• 14:33
  wanted
• 14:34
  to
• 14:34
  do
• 14:34
  one
• 14:34
  thing
• 14:34
  versus
• 14:35
  another.
• 14:35
  And
• 14:36
  as
• 14:36
  I
• 14:36
  and
• 14:36
  really
• 14:37
  the
• 14:37
  opportunity
• 14:38
  to
• 14:38
  speak
• 14:38
  about
• 14:38
  it
• 14:38
  happened
• 14:39
  last
• 14:39
  year
• 14:39
  in
• 14:40
  the
• 14:40
  middle
• 14:40
  of
• 14:40
  pandemic,
• 14:41
  we
• 14:41
  hosted
• 14:42
  two,
• 14:42
  two
• 14:42
  trips
• 14:43
  and
• 14:43
  LBGT
• 14:43
  trip.
• 14:44
  And
• 14:44
  another
• 14:45
  one
• 14:45
  focused
• 14:45
  around
• 14:46
  Juneteenth.
• 14:47
  And
• 14:47
  the
• 14:47
  w
• 14:47
  I
• 14:48
  took
• 14:48
  advantage
• 14:48
  took
• 14:49
  out
• 14:49
  my
• 14:49
  camera
• 14:49
  and
• 14:49
  started
• 14:50
  asking
• 14:50
  people,
• 14:50
  why
• 14:50
  are
• 14:50
  you
• 14:51
  coming
• 14:51
  with
• 14:51
  this
• 14:51
  trip
• 14:51
  versus
• 14:52
  another
• 14:52
  trip?
• 14:52
  And
• 14:53
  a
• 14:53
  lot
• 14:53
  of
• 14:53
  the
• 14:53
  things
• 14:53
  that
• 14:54
  Earl
• 14:54
  in
• 14:54
  particular
• 14:55
  and
• 14:55
  David
• 14:55
  Eddy
• 14:55
  also
• 14:55
  said
• 14:56
  where
• 14:56
  you're
• 14:56
  not
• 14:57
  always
• 14:57
  feeling
• 14:57
  safe,
• 14:58
  you're
• 14:58
  not
• 14:58
  always
• 14:58
  feeling
• 14:58
  welcome.
• 14:59
  And
• 14:59
  in
• 14:59
  different
• 14:59
  spaces
• 15:00
  that
• 15:00
  you
• 15:00
  go
• 15:00
  to.
• 15:01
  So
• 15:02
  that
• 15:02
  became
• 15:03
  like
• 15:03
  the
• 15:03
  wake-up
• 15:03
  call.
• 15:03
  I've
• 15:04
  been
• 15:04
  trying
• 15:04
  to
• 15:04
  get
• 15:04
  people
• 15:05
  to
• 15:05
  try
• 15:05
  all
• 15:05
  these
• 15:05
  different
• 15:06
  activities,
• 15:07
  but
• 15:07
  nobody
• 15:07
  seems
• 15:07
  to
• 15:08
  want
• 15:08
  to
• 15:08
  try
• 15:08
  them.
• 15:09
  Now,
• 15:09
  I
• 15:10
  have
• 15:10
  not
• 15:10
  necessarily
• 15:11
  experienced
• 15:12
  the
• 15:12
  same
• 15:13
  sense.
• 15:13
  Not
• 15:14
  being
• 15:14
  safe,
• 15:14
  I'm
• 15:14
  on
• 15:15
  I'm
• 15:15
  five
• 15:15
  11,
• 15:15
  I'm
• 15:15
  almost
• 15:16
  200
• 15:16
  pounds
• 15:17
  when
• 15:17
  I
• 15:17
  walk
• 15:18
  into
• 15:18
  a
• 15:18
  room
• 15:18
  and
• 15:18
  I
• 15:18
  want
• 15:18
  to
• 15:18
  do
• 15:19
  a
• 15:19
  thing
• 15:19
  I,
• 15:19
  that
• 15:19
  thing
• 15:20
  gets
• 15:20
  done.
• 15:21
  That's
• 15:21
  not
• 15:21
  the
• 15:21
  case
• 15:22
  for
• 15:22
  a
• 15:22
  lot
• 15:22
  of
• 15:22
  other
• 15:22
  people,
• 15:23
  especially,
• 15:23
  BiPAP
• 15:24
  LBGT.
• 15:25
  And
• 15:25
  of
• 15:25
  course,
• 15:26
  even
• 15:26
  single
• 15:27
  moms
• 15:27
  and
• 15:27
  older
• 15:27
  folks
• 15:28
  have
• 15:28
  challenges,
• 15:29
  walking
• 15:29
  into
• 15:30
  a
• 15:30
  room
• 15:30
  and
• 15:30
  walking
• 15:30
  into
• 15:30
  a
• 15:31
  space
• 15:31
  and
• 15:31
  feeling
• 15:32
  welcome.
• 15:32
  So
• 15:32
  that
• 15:33
  became
• 15:33
  our
• 15:33
  mantra.
• 15:34
  Everyone
• 15:35
  is
• 15:35
  welcome.
• 15:35
  When
• 15:36
  you
• 15:36
  ask
• 15:36
  what
• 15:36
  diversity
• 15:37
  means
• 15:37
  to
• 15:37
  me,
• 15:37
  that's
• 15:37
  what
• 15:37
  it
• 15:38
  means.
• 15:38
  It
• 15:38
  means
• 15:39
  not
• 15:40
  feeling
• 15:40
  judged,
• 15:41
  not
• 15:41
  feeling
• 15:41
  shamed
• 15:42
  for
• 15:42
  not
• 15:42
  having
• 15:43
  the
• 15:43
  latest
• 15:43
  gear
• 15:43
  feeling
• 15:44
  respected,
• 15:45
  feeling
• 15:45
  heard.
• 15:46
  And
• 15:46
  those
• 15:46
  are
• 15:46
  the
• 15:47
  things
• 15:47
  that
• 15:48
  we
• 15:48
  as
• 15:48
  an
• 15:49
  organization
• 15:49
  tried
• 15:49
  to
• 15:49
  do
• 15:50
  at
• 15:50
  all
• 15:50
  our.
• 15:51
  Our
• 15:51
  hosts
• 15:52
  are
• 15:52
  first-line
• 15:53
  interaction
• 15:54
  with
• 15:54
  a
• 15:55
  lot
• 15:55
  of
• 15:55
  all
• 15:55
  of
• 15:55
  our
• 15:56
  guests,
• 15:56
  they
• 15:56
  go
• 15:57
  through
• 15:57
  60
• 15:57
  hours
• 15:57
  of
• 15:57
  training.
• 15:58
  A
• 15:58
  lot
• 15:58
  of
• 15:58
  this
• 15:58
  training,
• 15:59
  it
• 15:59
  happens
• 16:00
  on
• 16:00
  the
• 16:00
  trips,
• 16:01
  but
• 16:01
  before
• 16:01
  they're
• 16:01
  able
• 16:02
  to
• 16:02
  host
• 16:02
  their
• 16:02
  own
• 16:02
  trip,
• 16:03
  they
• 16:03
  know
• 16:03
  everything
• 16:04
  about
• 16:04
  every
• 16:04
  person
• 16:05
  that
• 16:05
  they're
• 16:05
  about
• 16:05
  to
• 16:05
  encounter
• 16:06
  things
• 16:06
  like
• 16:07
  how
• 16:07
  to
• 16:07
  speak,
• 16:07
  how
• 16:08
  to
• 16:08
  not
• 16:08
  use
• 16:08
  the
• 16:08
  word,
• 16:09
  Hey
• 16:09
  guys,
• 16:10
  in
• 16:10
  conversations,
• 16:11
  because
• 16:11
  not
• 16:12
  everyone
• 16:12
  there
• 16:12
  is
• 16:13
  a
• 16:13
  guy
• 16:13
  or
• 16:14
  whenever
• 16:14
  we
• 16:14
  are
• 16:14
  interacting
• 16:15
  with
• 16:15
  a
• 16:15
  third
• 16:16
  party,
• 16:17
  a
• 16:17
  tour
• 16:17
  operator.
• 16:18
  So
• 16:18
  we
• 16:18
  do
• 16:19
  not
• 16:19
  own
• 16:19
  a
• 16:19
  whole
• 16:20
  fleet
• 16:20
  of
• 16:20
  rasp.
• 16:21
  So
• 16:21
  whenever
• 16:22
  we
• 16:22
  go
• 16:22
  out
• 16:22
  on
• 16:22
  a
• 16:22
  whitewater
• 16:23
  rafting
• 16:23
  trip,
• 16:24
  we
• 16:24
  want
• 16:24
  to
• 16:24
  make
• 16:24
  sure
• 16:24
  that,
• 16:24
  okay,
• 16:25
  is
• 16:25
  this
• 16:25
  environment,
• 16:26
  is
• 16:26
  this
• 16:26
  space
• 16:26
  safe?
• 16:27
  Are
• 16:27
  the
• 16:27
  guides
• 16:28
  all
• 16:28
  well-trained
• 16:29
  in
• 16:29
  safety?
• 16:29
  Are
• 16:29
  they,
• 16:29
  or
• 16:30
  are
• 16:30
  they
• 16:30
  just
• 16:31
  not
• 16:31
  really
• 16:31
  paying
• 16:31
  attention
• 16:32
  to,
• 16:32
  and
• 16:33
  are
• 16:33
  they
• 16:33
  trying
• 16:33
  to
• 16:34
  shame
• 16:34
  you
• 16:34
  for
• 16:34
  not
• 16:34
  going
• 16:34
  fast
• 16:35
  enough
• 16:35
  or
• 16:35
  not
• 16:35
  paddling
• 16:36
  a
• 16:36
  certain
• 16:36
  way?
• 16:37
  These.
• 16:38
  Are
• 16:38
  the
• 16:39
  things
• 16:39
  that
• 16:39
  I
• 16:39
  want
• 16:39
  to
• 16:39
  point
• 16:40
  out
• 16:40
  to
• 16:40
  when
• 16:40
  it
• 16:40
  comes
• 16:40
  to
• 16:41
  what
• 16:41
  we've,
• 16:42
  I've
• 16:42
  experienced
• 16:43
  across
• 16:44
  the
• 16:44
  wide
• 16:44
  spectrum
• 16:45
  of
• 16:45
  what
• 16:45
  it
• 16:46
  is
• 16:46
  to
• 16:46
  be
• 16:46
  Northeast
• 16:47
  outdoors,
• 16:47
  that's
• 16:47
  where
• 16:48
  I'm
• 16:48
  a
• 16:48
  footprint.
• 16:49
  And
• 16:49
  whenever
• 16:49
  we
• 16:49
  do
• 16:49
  these
• 16:50
  things,
• 16:50
  that's
• 16:50
  what
• 16:50
  I
• 16:51
  would
• 16:51
  like
• 16:52
  really
• 16:52
  fires
• 16:52
  me
• 16:52
  up,
• 16:53
  like
• 16:53
  the
• 16:53
  opportunity
• 16:53
  to
• 16:54
  change,
• 16:54
  from
• 16:55
  allowing,
• 16:55
  from
• 16:55
  bringing
• 16:56
  our
• 16:56
  guests
• 16:56
  to
• 16:56
  those
• 16:57
  spaces
• 16:57
  that
• 16:57
  don't
• 16:58
  treat
• 16:58
  us
• 16:58
  respectfully
• 16:59
  to
• 16:59
  now
• 16:59
  creating
• 17:00
  our
• 17:00
  own
• 17:00
  spaces
• 17:00
  and
• 17:01
  our
• 17:01
  own
• 17:01
  experiences,
• 17:02
  where
• 17:02
  we
• 17:02
  are
• 17:02
  treating
• 17:02
  our
• 17:02
  guests
• 17:03
  with
• 17:03
  the
• 17:03
  utmost
• 17:04
  respect
• 17:04
  and
• 17:05
  seeing
• 17:05
  those
• 17:05
  guests
• 17:05
  come
• 17:05
  back
• 17:06
  over
• 17:06
  and
• 17:06
  over
• 17:06
  and
• 17:06
  over
• 17:07
  again,
• 17:07
  over
• 17:07
  the
• 17:07
  years,
• 17:08
  we've
• 17:08
  also
• 17:08
  helped
• 17:09
  eliminate
• 17:09
  a
• 17:09
  lot
• 17:09
  of
• 17:09
  those
• 17:10
  barriers
• 17:10
  from
• 17:11
  the
• 17:12
  ability
• 17:12
  to
• 17:12
  get
• 17:13
  from
• 17:13
  point
• 17:13
  a
• 17:13
  to
• 17:13
  point
• 17:13
  B.
• 17:13
  So
• 17:15
  being
• 17:15
  in
• 17:15
  New
• 17:15
  York,
• 17:15
  our
• 17:15
  audience
• 17:16
  is
• 17:16
  99%
• 17:17
  new
• 17:17
  Yorkers.
• 17:18
  We
• 17:18
  do
• 17:18
  not
• 17:19
  New
• 17:19
  York
• 17:19
  when
• 17:19
  we
• 17:19
  drive.
• 17:20
  So
• 17:20
  we
• 17:20
  are
• 17:20
  trying
• 17:20
  to,
• 17:20
  how
• 17:21
  do
• 17:21
  we
• 17:21
  get
• 17:21
  new
• 17:21
  Yorker
• 17:21
  from
• 17:22
  New
• 17:22
  York
• 17:22
  city
• 17:22
  to
• 17:22
  wherever
• 17:23
  we're
• 17:23
  going
• 17:23
  to
• 17:23
  go?
• 17:23
  So
• 17:23
  we're
• 17:23
  providing
• 17:24
  transportation
• 17:25
  now,
• 17:26
  again,
• 17:26
  the
• 17:26
  pricing
• 17:26
  I
• 17:26
  mentioned.
• 17:27
  Not
• 17:27
  everyone
• 17:27
  could
• 17:27
  afford
• 17:28
  to
• 17:28
  do
• 17:28
  a
• 17:28
  lot
• 17:28
  of
• 17:28
  these
• 17:28
  things,
• 17:28
  particularly
• 17:29
  now
• 17:29
  we're
• 17:29
  going
• 17:29
  into
• 17:30
  the
• 17:30
  winter
• 17:30
  season,
• 17:31
  skiing
• 17:31
  and
• 17:31
  snowboarding.
• 17:31
  It's
• 17:32
  very
• 17:32
  expensive.
• 17:33
  So
• 17:33
  we
• 17:33
  try
• 17:33
  to
• 17:33
  provide
• 17:33
  subsidies
• 17:34
  are
• 17:34
  and
• 17:34
  where
• 17:34
  we
• 17:34
  can,
• 17:35
  we
• 17:35
  try
• 17:35
  to
• 17:35
  lower
• 17:35
  the
• 17:36
  price
• 17:36
  as
• 17:36
  much
• 17:36
  as
• 17:36
  we
• 17:36
  can.
• 17:37
  We
• 17:37
  provide
• 17:38
  a
• 17:38
  freewheeling
• 17:38
  library
• 17:38
  for
• 17:39
  all
• 17:39
  the
• 17:39
  gear
• 17:39
  you
• 17:39
  might
• 17:39
  need
• 17:39
  including
• 17:40
  skiing
• 17:40
  and
• 17:41
  snowboarding,
• 17:41
  camping
• 17:41
  gear.
• 17:42
  And
• 17:42
  of
• 17:42
  course
• 17:43
  we
• 17:43
  do
• 17:43
  everything
• 17:43
  from
• 17:43
  support
• 17:44
  to
• 17:44
  training
• 17:45
  and
• 17:45
  like
• 17:45
  David
• 17:46
  Eddy
• 17:46
  we
• 17:46
  actually
• 17:46
  scout
• 17:47
  a
• 17:47
  lot
• 17:47
  of
• 17:47
  places
• 17:48
  before
• 17:48
  we
• 17:48
  invite
• 17:48
  our
• 17:48
  guests
• 17:49
  to
• 17:49
  make
• 17:49
  sure
• 17:49
  that
• 17:50
  they
• 17:50
  are,
• 17:50
  welcoming
• 17:51
  that
• 17:51
  if
• 17:51
  they're
• 17:51
  saying
• 17:51
  they're
• 17:52
  all
• 17:52
  about
• 17:52
  diversity
• 17:53
  and
• 17:53
  inclusion,
• 17:53
  they
• 17:53
  mean
• 17:54
  it.
• 17:54
  And
• 17:54
  they
• 17:54
  mean
• 17:54
  it
• 17:54
  with
• 17:55
  their
• 17:55
  actions,
• 17:55
  not
• 17:55
  just
• 17:56
  something
• 17:56
  that
• 17:56
  they
• 17:56
  say.
• 17:56
  So
• 17:57
  that's
• 17:57
  our
• 17:58
  story
• 17:58
  and
• 17:58
  Alicia
• 17:58
  I
• 17:58
  think
• 17:59
  I
• 17:59
  got
• 17:59
  it
• 17:59
  right.
• 18:01
  I
• 18:01
  think
• 18:01
  you
• 18:01
  did
• 18:01
  Al
• 18:01
  yeah,
• 18:01
  I
• 18:02
  really
• 18:02
  appreciate
• 18:02
  it.
• 18:02
  So
• 18:02
  I
• 18:03
  want
• 18:03
  to
• 18:03
  turn
• 18:03
  it
• 18:03
  over
• 18:03
  to
• 18:04
  all
• 18:04
  of
• 18:04
  you
• 18:04
  to
• 18:04
  Al,
• 18:05
  to
• 18:05
  Lindsay,
• 18:05
  to
• 18:05
  David,
• 18:05
  to
• 18:06
  Eddie,
• 18:06
  to
• 18:06
  Earl,
• 18:07
  to
• 18:07
  just
• 18:07
  have
• 18:07
  a
• 18:07
  conversation
• 18:08
  and
• 18:08
  to
• 18:08
  give
• 18:08
  you
• 18:08
  some
• 18:08
  context
• 18:09
  from
• 18:09
  the
• 18:09
  Canadian
• 18:10
  Camping
• 18:10
  RV
• 18:10
  Council,
• 18:11
  which
• 18:11
  is
• 18:11
  the
• 18:11
  national
• 18:11
  association
• 18:12
  of
• 18:12
  campgrounds
• 18:13
  up
• 18:13
  here
• 18:13
  in
• 18:13
  Canada.
• 18:14
  She
• 18:14
  also
• 18:14
  used
• 18:15
  to
• 18:15
  own
• 18:15
  an
• 18:15
  RV
• 18:15
  park
• 18:16
  catered
• 18:16
  to
• 18:16
  a
• 18:16
  lot
• 18:17
  of
• 18:17
  different
• 18:17
  demographics.
• 18:18
  Angela
• 18:18
  is
• 18:19
  the
• 18:19
  editor
• 18:19
  in
• 18:20
  chief
• 18:20
  of
• 18:20
  Modern
• 18:20
  Campground
• 18:21
  who
• 18:21
  covers
• 18:21
  a
• 18:21
  lot
• 18:21
  of
• 18:22
  these
• 18:22
  stories
• 18:22
  on
• 18:22
  a
• 18:22
  regular
• 18:23
  basis.
• 18:24
  And
• 18:24
  our
• 18:24
  audience
• 18:24
  is
• 18:25
  primarily
• 18:25
  campground
• 18:26
  and
• 18:26
  RV
• 18:26
  park
• 18:26
  owners
• 18:27
  and
• 18:27
  operators,
• 18:27
  managers,
• 18:28
  their
• 18:28
  staff,
• 18:29
  people
• 18:29
  who
• 18:29
  supply
• 18:29
  things
• 18:30
  to
• 18:30
  the
• 18:30
  industry.
• 18:30
  And
• 18:31
  what
• 18:31
  I'm
• 18:31
  looking
• 18:31
  for
• 18:31
  is
• 18:32
  what
• 18:32
  do
• 18:32
  they
• 18:32
  need
• 18:32
  to
• 18:32
  hear?
• 18:32
  Where
• 18:33
  does
• 18:33
  the
• 18:33
  conversation
• 18:33
  need
• 18:34
  to
• 18:34
  go?
• 18:34
  And
• 18:34
  I'm
• 18:34
  hopefully
• 18:35
  that
• 18:35
  hopeful
• 18:35
  that
• 18:35
  you
• 18:36
  guys
• 18:36
  can
• 18:36
  all
• 18:36
  help
• 18:36
  steer
• 18:37
  that
• 18:37
  in
• 18:37
  whatever
• 18:37
  direction
• 18:38
  you
• 18:38
  feel
• 18:38
  is
• 18:38
  necessary.
• 18:39
  So
• 18:39
  whoever
• 18:40
  wants
• 18:40
  to
• 18:40
  start
• 18:44
  I'll
• 18:45
  I'll
• 18:45
  start.
• 18:45
  One
• 18:45
  of
• 18:45
  the
• 18:45
  things
• 18:46
  I
• 18:46
  tell
• 18:46
  folks,
• 18:46
  particularly
• 18:47
  in
• 18:47
  this
• 18:47
  space
• 18:47
  is
• 18:47
  that.
• 18:48
  Bi-folds
• 18:48
  came
• 18:48
  to,
• 18:48
  we
• 18:49
  were
• 18:49
  a
• 18:49
  very
• 18:49
  inclusive
• 18:50
  company.
• 18:51
  We
• 18:51
  don't,
• 18:51
  I
• 18:51
  don't
• 18:51
  want
• 18:52
  to
• 18:52
  see
• 18:52
  black
• 18:52
  folks
• 18:53
  just
• 18:53
  going
• 18:53
  into
• 18:53
  the
• 18:53
  outdoors
• 18:54
  just
• 18:54
  to
• 18:54
  be
• 18:54
  with
• 18:54
  black
• 18:55
  folks.
• 18:55
  I
• 18:55
  don't
• 18:56
  want
• 18:56
  to
• 18:56
  see
• 18:56
  white
• 18:56
  folks
• 18:57
  wanting
• 18:57
  to
• 18:57
  be
• 18:57
  in
• 18:57
  the
• 18:57
  outdoors.
• 18:58
  This
• 18:58
  is
• 18:58
  going
• 18:58
  to
• 18:58
  outdoors,
• 18:58
  just
• 18:59
  white
• 18:59
  folks.
• 18:59
  The
• 18:59
  outdoor
• 19:00
  industry
• 19:00
  and
• 19:00
  lifestyle
• 19:01
  is
• 19:01
  already
• 19:01
  most
• 19:01
  segregated
• 19:02
  field
• 19:02
  and
• 19:02
  lifestyle
• 19:03
  industry
• 19:03
  in
• 19:03
  the
• 19:03
  world.
• 19:04
  I
• 19:04
  don't
• 19:04
  want
• 19:04
  to
• 19:04
  go
• 19:04
  create
• 19:05
  another
• 19:05
  segregated,
• 19:06
  outdoors.
• 19:06
  What
• 19:07
  I
• 19:07
  want
• 19:07
  is
• 19:07
  for
• 19:07
  black
• 19:08
  folks
• 19:08
  to
• 19:08
  feel
• 19:08
  like
• 19:09
  I
• 19:09
  want
• 19:09
  blindfolds
• 19:09
  to
• 19:09
  feel,
• 19:10
  Hey,
• 19:10
  you
• 19:11
  feel
• 19:11
  educated,
• 19:11
  get
• 19:11
  educated
• 19:12
  enough
• 19:12
  to
• 19:12
  go
• 19:12
  into
• 19:13
  the
• 19:13
  outdoors.
• 19:13
  Particularly
• 19:14
  look,
• 19:14
  I
• 19:14
  live
• 19:14
  in
• 19:14
  the
• 19:14
  south.
• 19:15
  Okay.
• 19:15
  And
• 19:16
  we
• 19:16
  have
• 19:16
  some
• 19:16
  amazing
• 19:17
  places
• 19:17
  in
• 19:17
  the
• 19:17
  south.
• 19:18
  There
• 19:18
  are
• 19:18
  a
• 19:18
  lot
• 19:18
  of
• 19:18
  groups,
• 19:19
  a
• 19:19
  lot
• 19:19
  of
• 19:19
  clubs,
• 19:19
  and
• 19:20
  a
• 19:20
  lot
• 19:20
  of
• 19:20
  all
• 19:21
  types
• 19:21
  of
• 19:21
  organizations
• 19:22
  that
• 19:22
  are
• 19:22
  out
• 19:22
  west
• 19:23
  and
• 19:23
  up
• 19:23
  north,
• 19:23
  but
• 19:23
  not
• 19:24
  really
• 19:24
  many
• 19:24
  in
• 19:25
  the
• 19:25
  south.
• 19:25
  And
• 19:25
  I
• 19:25
  don't
• 19:25
  think,
• 19:26
  honestly,
• 19:26
  for
• 19:26
  us,
• 19:26
  we're
• 19:27
  not
• 19:27
  a
• 19:27
  club
• 19:27
  or
• 19:27
  a
• 19:27
  group
• 19:28
  at
• 19:28
  all.
• 19:30
  Our
• 19:30
  job
• 19:30
  is
• 19:31
  to
• 19:31
  educate
• 19:31
  not
• 19:31
  only
• 19:32
  just
• 19:32
  black
• 19:32
  folks,
• 19:32
  but
• 19:33
  our
• 19:33
  job
• 19:33
  is
• 19:33
  to
• 19:33
  educate
• 19:33
  the
• 19:34
  majority
• 19:34
  of
• 19:34
  the
• 19:34
  folks
• 19:35
  who
• 19:35
  enjoy
• 19:35
  the
• 19:35
  lifestyle
• 19:36
  right
• 19:36
  now,
• 19:36
  which
• 19:36
  are
• 19:37
  predominantly
• 19:37
  white
• 19:37
  folks
• 19:38
  on
• 19:38
  the
• 19:38
  reasons
• 19:39
  why
• 19:39
  black
• 19:39
  folks
• 19:39
  hadn't
• 19:40
  been
• 19:40
  in
• 19:40
  the
• 19:40
  outdoors.
• 19:41
  And
• 19:41
  so
• 19:41
  that
• 19:41
  they
• 19:42
  will
• 19:42
  then
• 19:42
  understand
• 19:43
  that
• 19:43
  we
• 19:43
  have
• 19:43
  generational
• 19:44
  fear.
• 19:44
  We
• 19:44
  have
• 19:45
  a
• 19:45
  lack
• 19:45
  of
• 19:45
  knowledge
• 19:46
  and
• 19:46
  we
• 19:46
  have
• 19:47
  we
• 19:47
  have
• 19:47
  really
• 19:48
  not
• 19:48
  really
• 19:48
  never
• 19:48
  been
• 19:48
  invited
• 19:49
  into
• 19:49
  a
• 19:49
  space
• 19:50
  that
• 19:50
  we
• 19:51
  would
• 19:51
  thrive
• 19:51
  in
• 19:52
  because
• 19:53
  the
• 19:53
  fact
• 19:54
  that
• 19:54
  we
• 19:55
  we
• 19:55
  love
• 19:55
  and
• 19:55
  enjoy
• 19:56
  the
• 19:56
  outdoor
• 19:56
  lifestyle.
• 19:57
  If
• 19:57
  we
• 19:58
  w
• 19:58
  we're
• 19:58
  not
• 19:58
  fearful
• 19:59
  of
• 19:59
  the
• 19:59
  outdoors.
• 20:00
  And
• 20:00
  I
• 20:00
  talk
• 20:00
  about
• 20:01
  this
• 20:01
  fear
• 20:01
  because
• 20:01
  my
• 20:02
  great
• 20:02
  grandmother
• 20:02
  told
• 20:03
  my
• 20:03
  grandmother,
• 20:03
  told
• 20:03
  my
• 20:03
  mother
• 20:04
  told
• 20:04
  me,
• 20:04
  don't
• 20:04
  go
• 20:05
  in
• 20:05
  those
• 20:05
  woods.
• 20:05
  And
• 20:05
  these
• 20:06
  things
• 20:06
  resonate
• 20:07
  with.
• 20:08
  And
• 20:08
  to
• 20:08
  generation,
• 20:09
  however,
• 20:10
  myself
• 20:10
  I've
• 20:11
  never
• 20:11
  experienced
• 20:11
  anything
• 20:12
  offered
• 20:12
  in
• 20:13
  the
• 20:13
  outdoors.
• 20:13
  I
• 20:13
  don't,
• 20:14
  I
• 20:14
  don't
• 20:14
  necessarily
• 20:14
  want
• 20:14
  to
• 20:15
  see
• 20:15
  different
• 20:15
  camp
• 20:16
  grounds.
• 20:16
  I
• 20:16
  want
• 20:16
  to
• 20:17
  see
• 20:17
  campgrounds
• 20:18
  where
• 20:18
  they
• 20:18
  welcome
• 20:19
  everyone.
• 20:19
  This
• 20:20
  is
• 20:20
  not
• 20:20
  something
• 20:20
  that
• 20:21
  I'm
• 20:21
  not
• 20:21
  proud
• 20:21
  of.
• 20:22
  When
• 20:22
  I
• 20:22
  see
• 20:22
  a
• 20:22
  black
• 20:23
  owned
• 20:23
  campground,
• 20:23
  just
• 20:24
  catering
• 20:24
  to
• 20:24
  black
• 20:24
  folks
• 20:25
  or
• 20:25
  a
• 20:26
  a
• 20:26
  gay
• 20:26
  lesbian
• 20:27
  campground,
• 20:27
  Katie,
• 20:28
  just
• 20:28
  to
• 20:28
  lesbian
• 20:28
  folks.
• 20:29
  That,
• 20:29
  to
• 20:29
  me,
• 20:30
  that's
• 20:30
  what
• 20:30
  we're
• 20:30
  building
• 20:31
  a
• 20:31
  more
• 20:31
  segregated
• 20:32
  environment.
• 20:32
  I
• 20:32
  want
• 20:33
  the
• 20:34
  businesses
• 20:34
  to
• 20:34
  understand
• 20:35
  that
• 20:36
  there
• 20:36
  is
• 20:36
  there
• 20:37
  are
• 20:37
  customers
• 20:37
  out
• 20:37
  there.
• 20:38
  We
• 20:38
  all
• 20:38
  are
• 20:38
  different.
• 20:39
  We
• 20:39
  all
• 20:40
  have
• 20:40
  different
• 20:40
  spaces.
• 20:41
  We
• 20:41
  all
• 20:41
  require
• 20:42
  different
• 20:42
  things.
• 20:43
  And
• 20:43
  it's
• 20:43
  so
• 20:43
  key
• 20:44
  to
• 20:44
  cater
• 20:45
  to
• 20:45
  everyone
• 20:46
  because
• 20:47
  camping
• 20:47
  is
• 20:47
  camping
• 20:48
  and
• 20:48
  we
• 20:48
  get
• 20:48
  around
• 20:49
  that
• 20:49
  campfire,
• 20:50
  you
• 20:50
  start
• 20:50
  having
• 20:50
  conversations.
• 20:51
  You're
• 20:51
  going
• 20:52
  to
• 20:52
  find
• 20:52
  out
• 20:52
  you
• 20:52
  have,
• 20:52
  we
• 20:52
  have
• 20:53
  more
• 20:53
  sames
• 20:53
  and
• 20:53
  differences,
• 20:54
  and
• 20:55
  we
• 20:55
  have
• 20:55
  to
• 20:55
  get
• 20:55
  folks
• 20:56
  to
• 20:56
  respect
• 20:56
  our
• 20:57
  different.
• 20:58
  Before
• 20:58
  we
• 20:58
  can
• 20:58
  move
• 20:58
  on
• 20:59
  to
• 20:59
  anything
• 20:59
  else.
• 21:00
  If
• 21:00
  we
• 21:00
  try
• 21:00
  to
• 21:01
  segregate
• 21:01
  ourselves
• 21:02
  and
• 21:02
  hide
• 21:02
  behind
• 21:03
  our
• 21:03
  titles
• 21:03
  on
• 21:03
  whatever
• 21:04
  it
• 21:04
  may
• 21:04
  be,
• 21:04
  whether
• 21:05
  it
• 21:05
  be
• 21:05
  a
• 21:05
  black
• 21:05
  person,
• 21:06
  white
• 21:06
  person,
• 21:06
  a
• 21:06
  gay
• 21:06
  or
• 21:06
  lesbian
• 21:07
  person,
• 21:07
  or
• 21:07
  anyone
• 21:08
  else,
• 21:08
  a
• 21:08
  woman,
• 21:08
  or
• 21:09
  anything
• 21:09
  else,
• 21:09
  what
• 21:10
  we're
• 21:10
  going
• 21:10
  to
• 21:10
  do
• 21:10
  is
• 21:10
  create
• 21:10
  more
• 21:11
  issues
• 21:11
  for
• 21:11
  our
• 21:11
  children.
• 21:12
  And
• 21:12
  for
• 21:12
  me,
• 21:13
  what
• 21:13
  I
• 21:13
  would
• 21:13
  tell
• 21:13
  campgrounds
• 21:14
  straight
• 21:15
  up,
• 21:15
  make
• 21:15
  sure
• 21:16
  that
• 21:16
  your
• 21:16
  staff
• 21:17
  and
• 21:17
  yourself,
• 21:17
  you
• 21:18
  are
• 21:18
  really
• 21:18
  keenly
• 21:19
  involved
• 21:19
  into
• 21:20
  what
• 21:20
  you're
• 21:20
  wanting
• 21:20
  to
• 21:21
  to
• 21:21
  be
• 21:21
  as
• 21:21
  your
• 21:21
  business.
• 21:22
  This
• 21:22
  is
• 21:22
  a
• 21:22
  business.
• 21:23
  These
• 21:23
  are
• 21:23
  businesses.
• 21:24
  This
• 21:24
  is
• 21:24
  not
• 21:25
  a
• 21:25
  Coon
• 21:25
  by
• 21:25
  y'all.
• 21:25
  We
• 21:26
  eat
• 21:26
  any
• 21:26
  business
• 21:27
  and
• 21:27
  every
• 21:27
  business
• 21:28
  out
• 21:28
  there,
• 21:28
  particularly
• 21:29
  all
• 21:30
  the
• 21:30
  businesses
• 21:30
  that
• 21:30
  I
• 21:30
  know
• 21:31
  that
• 21:31
  are
• 21:31
  diverse
• 21:31
  in
• 21:32
  their
• 21:32
  space,
• 21:32
  in
• 21:32
  their
• 21:33
  workers,
• 21:33
  in
• 21:33
  their
• 21:33
  employees,
• 21:34
  in
• 21:34
  their
• 21:34
  in
• 21:34
  their
• 21:35
  thinking,
• 21:35
  they
• 21:35
  do
• 21:36
  better.
• 21:36
  They
• 21:37
  are
• 21:37
  better.
• 21:37
  I
• 21:37
  played
• 21:38
  football
• 21:38
  at
• 21:38
  a
• 21:38
  very
• 21:38
  high
• 21:39
  level,
• 21:39
  and
• 21:39
  it
• 21:39
  was
• 21:40
  a
• 21:40
  very
• 21:40
  mixed
• 21:40
  group
• 21:41
  of
• 21:41
  folks
• 21:41
  on
• 21:41
  this
• 21:41
  team.
• 21:42
  And
• 21:42
  we
• 21:42
  won
• 21:42
  game
• 21:43
  because
• 21:43
  we
• 21:44
  fought
• 21:44
  together
• 21:45
  as
• 21:45
  a
• 21:45
  unit.
• 21:45
  For
• 21:46
  the
• 21:46
  magazines
• 21:47
  for
• 21:47
  the
• 21:47
  campgrounds
• 21:48
  out
• 21:48
  there.
• 21:48
  Now
• 21:49
  it
• 21:49
  is
• 21:49
  time
• 21:50
  to
• 21:50
  have
• 21:50
  a
• 21:51
  different
• 21:51
  thinking
• 21:52
  to
• 21:52
  think
• 21:53
  that
• 21:53
  everyone
• 21:54
  is
• 21:54
  welcome.
• 21:55
  Treat
• 21:55
  everyone
• 21:56
  everywhere
• 21:56
  equally.
• 21:56
  We'll
• 21:57
  be
• 21:57
  fine.
• 21:57
  Going
• 21:57
  off
• 21:58
  of
• 21:58
  what
• 21:58
  you
• 21:58
  just
• 21:58
  said,
• 21:58
  Earl,
• 21:58
  thank
• 21:59
  you
• 21:59
  for
• 21:59
  that.
• 21:59
  It's
• 21:59
  interesting
• 22:00
  that
• 22:00
  you
• 22:00
  use
• 22:00
  the
• 22:00
  word
• 22:00
  kumbaya
• 22:01
  because
• 22:02
  it's
• 22:02
  a
• 22:03
  business
• 22:04
  in
• 22:04
  business
• 22:05
  to
• 22:05
  make
• 22:05
  kumbaya
• 22:06
  moments
• 22:06
  for
• 22:06
  folks
• 22:07
  that
• 22:07
  go
• 22:07
  there.
• 22:07
  And
• 22:08
  I
• 22:08
  think
• 22:08
  it's
• 22:08
  one
• 22:09
  of
• 22:09
  those
• 22:09
  where
• 22:09
  there's
• 22:10
  room
• 22:10
  for
• 22:10
  both
• 22:11
  there's
• 22:11
  room,
• 22:11
  for
• 22:12
  campgrounds
• 22:13
  that
• 22:13
  are
• 22:13
  geared
• 22:14
  toward
• 22:14
  a
• 22:14
  specific
• 22:15
  demographic,
• 22:15
  whatever
• 22:16
  that
• 22:16
  demographic
• 22:16
  happens
• 22:17
  to
• 22:17
  be.
• 22:17
  There's
• 22:17
  adult
• 22:18
  only
• 22:18
  campgrounds
• 22:18
  there's
• 22:19
  family
• 22:19
  campgrounds,
• 22:20
  there's
• 22:21
  gay
• 22:21
  men
• 22:22
  only
• 22:22
  there's
• 22:22
  lesbian
• 22:23
  only
• 22:24
  there's
• 22:24
  LGBT
• 22:25
  to
• 22:25
  your
• 22:25
  point.
• 22:25
  There's
• 22:26
  room
• 22:26
  for
• 22:26
  all
• 22:26
  of
• 22:27
  those.
• 22:27
  And
• 22:27
  we've
• 22:27
  seen
• 22:28
  those
• 22:28
  in
• 22:28
  our
• 22:28
  travels
• 22:29
  and
• 22:29
  we
• 22:29
  don't
• 22:29
  just
• 22:30
  go
• 22:30
  to
• 22:30
  again,
• 22:31
  air
• 22:31
  quote,
• 22:31
  LGBT
• 22:32
  campgrounds,
• 22:33
  although
• 22:33
  that's
• 22:33
  the
• 22:33
  majority
• 22:34
  of
• 22:34
  the
• 22:34
  ones
• 22:34
  we
• 22:34
  go
• 22:34
  to.
• 22:35
  There's
• 22:35
  a
• 22:35
  place
• 22:35
  in
• 22:35
  Vermont
• 22:36
  that
• 22:36
  we
• 22:36
  discovered
• 22:37
  this
• 22:37
  year
• 22:37
  called
• 22:37
  Vermont
• 22:37
  freedom,
• 22:38
  tiny
• 22:38
  little
• 22:38
  campground
• 22:39
  way,
• 22:39
  upstate
• 22:40
  and
• 22:40
  Vermont
• 22:40
  in
• 22:40
  a
• 22:40
  town
• 22:41
  called
• 22:41
  Greensboro
• 22:42
  bend.
• 22:42
  And
• 22:42
  it's
• 22:43
  owned
• 22:43
  by
• 22:43
  a
• 22:43
  gay
• 22:43
  gentleman
• 22:44
  in
• 22:44
  his
• 22:45
  sixties.
• 22:45
  He
• 22:45
  started
• 22:46
  it
• 22:46
  as
• 22:46
  a
• 22:46
  hobby,
• 22:46
  so
• 22:47
  he
• 22:47
  wouldn't
• 22:47
  get
• 22:47
  fat.
• 22:48
  As
• 22:48
  you
• 22:48
  said,
• 22:48
  that
• 22:48
  was
• 22:48
  his
• 22:49
  whole
• 22:49
  desire
• 22:49
  to
• 22:49
  do
• 22:49
  it.
• 22:50
  And
• 22:51
  it's
• 22:52
  exactly
• 22:52
  what
• 22:52
  you
• 22:53
  just
• 22:53
  described
• 22:53
  as
• 22:53
  an
• 22:54
  everybody
• 22:55
  live
• 22:56
  and
• 22:56
  let
• 22:56
  live
• 22:56
  a
• 22:56
  place
• 22:57
  that
• 22:57
  you
• 22:57
  are
• 22:58
  retirees
• 22:59
  as
• 22:59
  straight
• 23:00
  retiree,
• 23:00
  couple
• 23:00
  in
• 23:00
  the
• 23:01
  camper
• 23:01
  next
• 23:01
  to
• 23:01
  us,
• 23:02
  a
• 23:02
  gay
• 23:02
  couple
• 23:03
  and
• 23:03
  the
• 23:03
  other
• 23:03
  camper
• 23:03
  next
• 23:04
  to
• 23:04
  us,
• 23:04
  a
• 23:04
  lesbian
• 23:04
  couple
• 23:05
  across
• 23:05
  the
• 23:05
  street,
• 23:05
  straight
• 23:06
  couples
• 23:07
  that
• 23:07
  you
• 23:07
  know,
• 23:07
  our
• 23:07
  age
• 23:08
  in
• 23:08
  our
• 23:08
  thirties
• 23:08
  and
• 23:08
  forties
• 23:09
  down
• 23:10
  the
• 23:10
  road,
• 23:10
  and
• 23:11
  everybody
• 23:12
  got
• 23:12
  along.
• 23:12
  Great.
• 23:13
  And
• 23:13
  that
• 23:13
  to
• 23:13
  me
• 23:14
  in
• 23:14
  body
• 23:14
  is
• 23:14
  the
• 23:14
  ideal,
• 23:15
  I
• 23:15
  think
• 23:16
  earlier
• 23:16
  you
• 23:16
  were
• 23:16
  trying
• 23:17
  to
• 23:17
  speak
• 23:17
  to,
• 23:18
  does
• 23:19
  it
• 23:19
  happen
• 23:19
  everywhere?
• 23:20
  Yeah.
• 23:21
  Can
• 23:21
  it
• 23:22
  maybe
• 23:22
  somebody
• 23:23
  mentioned
• 23:23
  something
• 23:23
  about
• 23:23
  being,
• 23:24
  I
• 23:24
  think
• 23:24
  it
• 23:24
  was
• 23:24
  also
• 23:25
  lot
• 23:25
  the
• 23:25
  south.
• 23:25
  It's
• 23:26
  interesting.
• 23:26
  Some
• 23:26
  of
• 23:26
  the
• 23:27
  very
• 23:27
  first,
• 23:28
  or
• 23:28
  at
• 23:28
  least
• 23:28
  the
• 23:28
  majority
• 23:29
  of
• 23:29
  gay
• 23:30
  lesbian
• 23:30
  campgrounds
• 23:32
  at
• 23:32
  least
• 23:33
  were
• 23:33
  in
• 23:33
  like
• 23:34
  the
• 23:34
  south
• 23:34
  Southeast,
• 23:34
  the
• 23:35
  more
• 23:35
  air
• 23:36
  quote
• 23:36
  conservative
• 23:37
  areas.
• 23:37
  And
• 23:38
  now
• 23:38
  that
• 23:39
  there's
• 23:39
  less
• 23:39
  of
• 23:39
  a
• 23:39
  need
• 23:40
  for
• 23:40
  LGBT
• 23:41
  folks
• 23:41
  to
• 23:41
  necessarily
• 23:43
  congregate
• 23:43
  in
• 23:44
  the
• 23:44
  gayborhood
• 23:44
  is
• 23:44
  within
• 23:45
  the
• 23:45
  big
• 23:45
  cities
• 23:46
  at
• 23:46
  the
• 23:46
  gay
• 23:46
  bars
• 23:46
  and
• 23:47
  the
• 23:47
  libraries
• 23:48
  and
• 23:48
  their
• 23:48
  gay
• 23:48
  restaurant.
• 23:48
  A
• 23:49
  lot
• 23:49
  of
• 23:49
  cities
• 23:49
  have
• 23:49
  those
• 23:50
  and
• 23:50
  still
• 23:50
  do,
• 23:51
  but
• 23:51
  because
• 23:51
  that's
• 23:51
  becoming
• 23:52
  less
• 23:52
  necessary,
• 23:53
  I
• 23:53
  think
• 23:54
  campgrounds
• 23:55
  catering
• 23:55
  to
• 23:55
  that
• 23:56
  community
• 23:57
  or
• 23:57
  those
• 23:57
  communities
• 23:58
  are
• 23:58
  springing
• 23:59
  up
• 23:59
  in
• 24:00
  other
• 24:00
  places
• 24:00
  now,
• 24:01
  too.
• 24:02
  And
• 24:02
  that's
• 24:02
  a
• 24:02
  good
• 24:03
  thing
• 24:04
  where
• 24:04
  the
• 24:04
  challenge
• 24:05
  is
• 24:06
  speaking,
• 24:06
  just
• 24:06
  in
• 24:06
  terms
• 24:07
  of
• 24:07
  LGBT
• 24:07
  campgrounds
• 24:08
  is
• 24:08
  you
• 24:09
  have
• 24:09
  such
• 24:09
  a
• 24:09
  subset
• 24:10
  there's
• 24:10
  all
• 24:10
  males.
• 24:10
  I
• 24:10
  said
• 24:11
  there's
• 24:11
  a
• 24:11
  campground
• 24:12
  in
• 24:12
  Michigan
• 24:12
  that
• 24:12
  went
• 24:13
  through
• 24:13
  him.
• 24:13
  Enormous
• 24:14
  controversy.
• 24:15
  Earlier
• 24:16
  this
• 24:16
  year,
• 24:16
  because
• 24:17
  it
• 24:17
  was
• 24:17
  an
• 24:18
  all-male
• 24:18
  campground
• 24:19
  and
• 24:19
  their
• 24:19
  definition
• 24:20
  as
• 24:20
  a
• 24:20
  private,
• 24:21
  not
• 24:21
  public
• 24:22
  private
• 24:22
  club
• 24:23
  campground
• 24:24
  was
• 24:24
  that
• 24:24
  should
• 24:25
  be
• 24:25
  just
• 24:26
  a
• 24:27
  CIS
• 24:27
  males
• 24:28
  or
• 24:28
  naturally
• 24:29
  born
• 24:29
  males.
• 24:29
  In
• 24:30
  other
• 24:30
  words,
• 24:30
  exclusionary
• 24:31
  of
• 24:31
  transgender.
• 24:33
  And
• 24:33
  at
• 24:34
  the
• 24:34
  end
• 24:34
  of
• 24:34
  the
• 24:34
  day,
• 24:34
  it
• 24:35
  turned
• 24:35
  out
• 24:35
  that
• 24:35
  it
• 24:35
  was
• 24:36
  a
• 24:36
  big
• 24:36
  misunderstanding
• 24:37
  and
• 24:37
  a
• 24:37
  lot
• 24:37
  of
• 24:37
  opportunity
• 24:38
  for
• 24:38
  learning
• 24:38
  and
• 24:39
  for
• 24:39
  growth.
• 24:39
  And
• 24:39
  it
• 24:39
  served
• 24:40
  that
• 24:40
  purpose,
• 24:41
  but
• 24:41
  it
• 24:41
  also
• 24:42
  showed
• 24:42
  to
• 24:42
  underscore
• 24:43
  the
• 24:43
  deep
• 24:44
  divides
• 24:44
  that
• 24:44
  still
• 24:45
  exist,
• 24:45
  even
• 24:45
  within
• 24:47
  some
• 24:47
  of
• 24:47
  these
• 24:47
  communities
• 24:48
  that
• 24:48
  are
• 24:48
  out
• 24:49
  there.
• 24:49
  And
• 24:49
  it
• 24:49
  doesn't
• 24:50
  just
• 24:50
  have
• 24:50
  to
• 24:50
  be
• 24:50
  within
• 24:51
  the
• 24:51
  LGBT
• 24:51
  community.
• 24:52
  It
• 24:52
  could
• 24:52
  be
• 24:53
  communities
• 24:53
  of
• 24:54
  people
• 24:54
  of
• 24:54
  color
• 24:54
  or
• 24:55
  different
• 24:55
  religions
• 24:56
  or
• 24:56
  even
• 24:57
  campgrounds
• 24:57
  that
• 24:58
  are
• 24:58
  for
• 24:58
  generally
• 24:59
  for
• 24:59
  older
• 24:59
  folks
• 25:00
  or
• 25:00
  retirees
• 25:01
  versus
• 25:01
  those
• 25:01
  that
• 25:01
  are,
• 25:02
  have
• 25:02
  a
• 25:02
  lot
• 25:02
  more
• 25:03
  younger
• 25:03
  children.
• 25:04
  I
• 25:04
  think
• 25:04
  those
• 25:05
  things
• 25:05
  still
• 25:05
  exist
• 25:05
  everywhere.
• 25:06
  And
• 25:06
  I
• 25:06
  think
• 25:07
  the
• 25:07
  change
• 25:07
  that
• 25:08
  it
• 25:08
  starts
• 25:09
  with
• 25:09
  the
• 25:09
  culture
• 25:10
  that
• 25:10
  the
• 25:10
  owners
• 25:11
  of
• 25:11
  any
• 25:11
  given
• 25:11
  campground
• 25:12
  choose
• 25:12
  to
• 25:12
  create.
• 25:17
  Definitely
• 25:18
  I
• 25:18
  think
• 25:18
  to
• 25:19
  piggyback
• 25:19
  a
• 25:19
  little
• 25:19
  bit
• 25:19
  off
• 25:20
  of
• 25:20
  what
• 25:20
  you
• 25:20
  were
• 25:21
  just
• 25:21
  speaking
• 25:21
  to,
• 25:22
  it
• 25:22
  comes
• 25:22
  down
• 25:23
  more
• 25:23
  to
• 25:23
  the
• 25:24
  intersectionality
• 25:25
  of
• 25:25
  it.
• 25:25
  You
• 25:25
  could
• 25:25
  have
• 25:26
  a
• 25:26
  ton
• 25:26
  of
• 25:26
  black
• 25:27
  friendly
• 25:27
  campgrounds.
• 25:28
  You
• 25:28
  could
• 25:28
  have
• 25:28
  a
• 25:28
  ton
• 25:28
  of
• 25:29
  LGBTQ
• 25:30
  friendly
• 25:30
  campgrounds,
• 25:31
  but
• 25:31
  if
• 25:31
  I
• 25:32
  go
• 25:32
  to
• 25:32
  a
• 25:32
  place
• 25:33
  and
• 25:33
  I
• 25:33
  bring
• 25:33
  my
• 25:34
  entire
• 25:34
  family
• 25:34
  with
• 25:34
  me,
• 25:35
  there's
• 25:35
  a
• 25:35
  line.
• 25:36
  And
• 25:36
  the
• 25:36
  amount
• 25:36
  of
• 25:36
  times
• 25:37
  that
• 25:37
  I've
• 25:37
  showed
• 25:37
  up
• 25:37
  at
• 25:38
  family-friendly
• 25:38
  campgrounds
• 25:39
  that
• 25:39
  have,
• 25:39
  the
• 25:40
  little
• 25:40
  rainbow
• 25:40
  flag
• 25:40
  on
• 25:41
  it
• 25:41
  on
• 25:41
  Yelp
• 25:41
  that
• 25:41
  say
• 25:42
  it's
• 25:42
  LGBTQ
• 25:42
  friendly.
• 25:43
  That's
• 25:43
  great.
• 25:44
  But
• 25:44
  that
• 25:44
  doesn't
• 25:44
  mean
• 25:45
  that
• 25:45
  they're
• 25:45
  not
• 25:45
  racist.
• 25:45
  And
• 25:45
  that
• 25:46
  doesn't
• 25:46
  mean
• 25:46
  that
• 25:46
  they're
• 25:46
  not
• 25:46
  going
• 25:47
  to
• 25:47
  treat
• 25:47
  me
• 25:47
  poorly
• 25:48
  because
• 25:48
  of
• 25:48
  the
• 25:49
  people
• 25:49
  that
• 25:49
  I'm
• 25:49
  traveling
• 25:50
  with,
• 25:50
  because
• 25:51
  that.
• 25:51
  Afro
• 25:51
  Latino
• 25:51
  or
• 25:51
  black.
• 25:52
  And
• 25:52
  so
• 25:52
  that
• 25:53
  I
• 25:53
  think
• 25:53
  is
• 25:53
  the
• 25:54
  other
• 25:54
  part
• 25:54
  of
• 25:54
  this,
• 25:55
  that
• 25:55
  more
• 25:55
  people
• 25:55
  that
• 25:55
  have
• 25:56
  need
• 25:56
  to
• 25:56
  have
• 25:56
  conversations
• 25:57
  about.
• 25:57
  I
• 25:57
  think
• 25:57
  there's
• 25:58
  a
• 25:58
  lot
• 25:58
  of,
• 25:58
  pink
• 25:59
  washing,
• 25:59
  rainbow,
• 25:59
  washing,
• 26:00
  whatever
• 26:00
  you
• 26:00
  want
• 26:00
  to
• 26:00
  call
• 26:01
  it
• 26:01
  all
• 26:01
  over
• 26:02
  the
• 26:02
  place
• 26:02
  with,
• 26:02
  you
• 26:03
  can
• 26:03
  see
• 26:03
  I've
• 26:03
  seen
• 26:03
  more
• 26:03
  rainbow
• 26:04
  flights
• 26:04
  this
• 26:04
  year
• 26:04
  than
• 26:04
  any
• 26:05
  other
• 26:05
  year,
• 26:05
  but
• 26:06
  there's
• 26:06
  the
• 26:06
  added
• 26:07
  layers
• 26:08
  that
• 26:08
  go
• 26:08
  deeper
• 26:08
  and
• 26:08
  deeper,
• 26:09
  the
• 26:09
  more
• 26:09
  that
• 26:09
  you
• 26:10
  get
• 26:10
  into
• 26:10
  it.
• 26:10
  And
• 26:10
  that
• 26:11
  I
• 26:11
  think
• 26:11
  are
• 26:11
  those
• 26:12
  more
• 26:12
  of
• 26:12
  the
• 26:12
  things
• 26:12
  that
• 26:12
  we
• 26:13
  need
• 26:13
  to
• 26:13
  be
• 26:13
  talking
• 26:13
  about.
• 26:14
  And
• 26:14
  I've
• 26:14
  had
• 26:14
  a
• 26:14
  lot
• 26:14
  of
• 26:14
  these
• 26:14
  conversations
• 26:15
  with,
• 26:15
  without
• 26:16
  over
• 26:16
  the
• 26:16
  course
• 26:17
  of
• 26:17
  the
• 26:17
  last
• 26:17
  year
• 26:18
  or
• 26:18
  so,
• 26:18
  just
• 26:18
  looking
• 26:18
  at,
• 26:19
  okay,
• 26:19
  great.
• 26:19
  We're
• 26:19
  going
• 26:20
  to
• 26:20
  get
• 26:20
  a
• 26:20
  bunch
• 26:20
  of
• 26:20
  different
• 26:21
  people
• 26:22
  out
• 26:22
  here,
• 26:22
  but
• 26:23
  how
• 26:23
  are
• 26:23
  we
• 26:23
  going
• 26:23
  to
• 26:23
  make
• 26:23
  them
• 26:23
  comfortable?
• 26:24
  And
• 26:24
  what's
• 26:24
  going
• 26:25
  to
• 26:25
  make
• 26:25
  them
• 26:25
  comfortable
• 26:26
  in
• 26:26
  that's
• 26:26
  stays.
• 26:26
  Let
• 26:26
  me
• 26:26
  hot
• 26:27
  right
• 26:27
  back
• 26:27
  in
• 26:27
  for
• 26:27
  one
• 26:27
  second.
• 26:28
  One
• 26:28
  of
• 26:28
  the
• 26:28
  things
• 26:28
  I
• 26:28
  think
• 26:29
  that
• 26:29
  a
• 26:29
  lot
• 26:29
  of
• 26:29
  folks
• 26:30
  miss
• 26:30
  in
• 26:30
  regards
• 26:31
  to
• 26:32
  conversation,
• 26:33
  and
• 26:33
  mainly
• 26:33
  because
• 26:34
  we
• 26:34
  don't
• 26:34
  have
• 26:34
  a
• 26:34
  lot
• 26:34
  of
• 26:34
  conversations,
• 26:35
  we
• 26:35
  missed
• 26:35
  the
• 26:35
  education
• 26:36
  part.
• 26:36
  People
• 26:37
  have
• 26:37
  to
• 26:37
  be
• 26:37
  educated
• 26:38
  there,
• 26:38
  camp
• 26:38
  grounds
• 26:38
  out
• 26:38
  there,
• 26:39
  and
• 26:39
  then
• 26:39
  people
• 26:39
  out
• 26:39
  there
• 26:40
  that
• 26:40
  have
• 26:40
  not
• 26:40
  done.
• 26:41
  Different
• 26:41
  communities,
• 26:42
  particularly
• 26:42
  in
• 26:42
  the
• 26:42
  black
• 26:43
  community,
• 26:43
  camp
• 26:43
  Browns
• 26:44
  out
• 26:44
  there,
• 26:44
  haven't
• 26:44
  dealt
• 26:44
  with
• 26:45
  seeing
• 26:45
  black
• 26:45
  folks
• 26:45
  at
• 26:46
  campgrounds.
• 26:46
  And
• 26:47
  I
• 26:48
  don't
• 26:48
  want
• 26:48
  to
• 26:48
  deem
• 26:48
  folks
• 26:49
  because
• 26:49
  they
• 26:49
  haven't
• 26:49
  seen
• 26:50
  folks
• 26:51
  and
• 26:51
  not
• 26:51
  knowing
• 26:51
  how
• 26:52
  to
• 26:52
  act
• 26:52
  to
• 26:52
  culturally,
• 26:53
  some
• 26:53
  of
• 26:53
  the
• 26:53
  things
• 26:53
  that
• 26:54
  we
• 26:54
  with,
• 26:54
  some
• 26:54
  of
• 26:54
  the
• 26:54
  things
• 26:54
  that
• 26:54
  we
• 26:54
  don't
• 26:55
  like,
• 26:55
  I
• 26:55
  want
• 26:55
  to
• 26:55
  educate
• 26:56
  these
• 26:56
  folks
• 26:57
  so
• 26:57
  that
• 26:57
  when
• 26:57
  they
• 26:57
  see
• 26:57
  folks
• 26:58
  that
• 26:58
  look
• 26:58
  like
• 26:58
  us
• 26:59
  coming
• 26:59
  to
• 26:59
  the
• 26:59
  campgrounds,
• 27:00
  they
• 27:00
  understand
• 27:01
  that.
• 27:01
  So
• 27:01
  when
• 27:01
  we
• 27:02
  don't
• 27:02
  know,
• 27:02
  things
• 27:03
  are
• 27:03
  not
• 27:03
  to
• 27:03
  treat
• 27:04
  us
• 27:04
  any
• 27:04
  differently,
• 27:04
  but
• 27:05
  to
• 27:05
  teach
• 27:05
  us
• 27:06
  and
• 27:06
  what
• 27:06
  to
• 27:06
  do
• 27:07
  at
• 27:07
  camp
• 27:07
  grounds,
• 27:08
  teach
• 27:08
  us
• 27:08
  how
• 27:09
  to
• 27:09
  make
• 27:09
  fires
• 27:10
  teachers,
• 27:10
  these
• 27:10
  things
• 27:11
  that
• 27:11
  we
• 27:11
  don't
• 27:11
  know,
• 27:11
  th
• 27:11
  the
• 27:12
  greatest
• 27:12
  thing
• 27:13
  that
• 27:13
  we
• 27:13
  can
• 27:13
  do
• 27:14
  that
• 27:14
  one
• 27:14
  of
• 27:14
  the
• 27:14
  worst
• 27:14
  things
• 27:15
  we
• 27:15
  can
• 27:15
  do
• 27:16
  is
• 27:16
  to
• 27:16
  treat
• 27:17
  them
• 27:17
  bad
• 27:17
  about
• 27:17
  things
• 27:18
  they
• 27:18
  don't
• 27:18
  know.
• 27:19
  And
• 27:19
  we
• 27:20
  have
• 27:20
  to
• 27:20
  educate
• 27:20
  people,
• 27:21
  just
• 27:21
  like
• 27:21
  we
• 27:21
  have
• 27:21
  to
• 27:21
  educate
• 27:22
  black
• 27:22
  folks
• 27:22
  about
• 27:22
  the
• 27:22
  outdoors.
• 27:23
  We
• 27:23
  have
• 27:23
  to
• 27:23
  educate
• 27:24
  the
• 27:24
  predominantly
• 27:25
  the
• 27:25
  predominantly
• 27:25
  the
• 27:25
  lifestyle
• 27:26
  in
• 27:26
  the
• 27:26
  industry,
• 27:27
  or
• 27:27
  why
• 27:27
  black
• 27:28
  folks
• 27:28
  haven't
• 27:28
  been
• 27:28
  in
• 27:28
  the
• 27:28
  outdoors
• 27:29
  so
• 27:29
  that
• 27:29
  they
• 27:30
  then
• 27:30
  understand
• 27:31
  the
• 27:31
  reasons.
• 27:32
  To
• 27:33
  get
• 27:33
  us
• 27:33
  there
• 27:33
  or
• 27:33
  to
• 27:33
  make
• 27:34
  us
• 27:34
  feel
• 27:34
  more
• 27:34
  comfortable.
• 27:35
  I'm
• 27:35
  big
• 27:35
  on
• 27:35
  education.
• 27:36
  We,
• 27:37
  our
• 27:37
  company
• 27:38
  we've
• 27:38
  partnered
• 27:38
  with
• 27:39
  leave,
• 27:39
  no
• 27:39
  trace
• 27:40
  our
• 27:40
  company.
• 27:40
  We've
• 27:40
  partnered
• 27:40
  with
• 27:41
  the
• 27:41
  states.
• 27:41
  Plenty
• 27:41
  of
• 27:41
  states.
• 27:42
  We
• 27:42
  have
• 27:42
  states
• 27:42
  on
• 27:42
  our
• 27:42
  resume
• 27:43
  folks
• 27:43
  that
• 27:43
  we
• 27:43
  deal
• 27:44
  with
• 27:44
  every
• 27:44
  single
• 27:44
  day.
• 27:45
  And
• 27:45
  I
• 27:45
  tell
• 27:46
  them
• 27:46
  every
• 27:46
  day,
• 27:47
  just
• 27:47
  like
• 27:47
  I
• 27:47
  tell
• 27:47
  everyone
• 27:47
  on
• 27:48
  this
• 27:48
  call,
• 27:49
  we
• 27:49
  have
• 27:49
  to
• 27:49
  have
• 27:49
  communication.
• 27:50
  We
• 27:50
  have
• 27:51
  to
• 27:51
  have
• 27:51
  amazing
• 27:51
  conversations.
• 27:52
  We
• 27:52
  have
• 27:52
  to
• 27:52
  do
• 27:53
  work
• 27:53
  and
• 27:53
  we
• 27:53
  have
• 27:53
  to
• 27:53
  do
• 27:54
  very
• 27:54
  sincere,
• 27:55
  meaningful,
• 27:56
  measured,
• 27:58
  so
• 27:58
  it
• 27:58
  can
• 27:58
  be
• 27:58
  sustainable
• 27:59
  work.
• 28:00
  Otherwise
• 28:01
  we'll
• 28:01
  continue
• 28:01
  to
• 28:01
  have
• 28:01
  these
• 28:02
  podcasts
• 28:02
  and
• 28:02
  these
• 28:03
  conversations
• 28:04
  every
• 28:04
  single
• 28:04
  day,
• 28:04
  without
• 28:05
  any
• 28:05
  action
• 28:05
  being
• 28:06
  taken.
• 28:06
  I'm
• 28:06
  going
• 28:06
  to
• 28:06
  say
• 28:06
  something
• 28:06
  a
• 28:06
  little
• 28:07
  controversial.
• 28:07
  But
• 28:08
  it's
• 28:08
  the
• 28:08
  little,
• 28:09
  sorry.
• 28:09
  Earl
• 28:09
  is
• 28:09
  the
• 28:09
  opposite
• 28:10
  of
• 28:10
  what
• 28:10
  you're
• 28:10
  saying,
• 28:10
  but
• 28:12
  if
• 28:12
  they
• 28:12
  wanted
• 28:13
  us
• 28:13
  in
• 28:14
  their
• 28:14
  spaces,
• 28:14
  we
• 28:15
  would
• 28:15
  have
• 28:15
  been
• 28:15
  welcome
• 28:16
  years
• 28:16
  ago.
• 28:17
  This
• 28:18
  industry,
• 28:18
  the
• 28:18
  outdoor
• 28:19
  recreation
• 28:19
  industry,
• 28:20
  it's
• 28:20
  a
• 28:20
  $900
• 28:21
  billion
• 28:21
  industry
• 28:22
  with
• 28:22
  60
• 28:22
  to
• 28:22
  70%.
• 28:24
  Why
• 28:24
  audiences?
• 28:25
  What
• 28:25
  does
• 28:25
  that
• 28:25
  tell
• 28:25
  you?
• 28:26
  That
• 28:26
  means
• 28:26
  a
• 28:26
  lot
• 28:27
  of
• 28:27
  byproducts
• 28:27
  and
• 28:28
  everybody
• 28:28
  else
• 28:28
  who's
• 28:29
  not
• 28:29
  spending
• 28:30
  in
• 28:30
  this
• 28:30
  issue
• 28:30
  because
• 28:31
  they're
• 28:31
  simply
• 28:31
  not
• 28:31
  welcome.
• 28:32
  It's
• 28:32
  not
• 28:32
  a
• 28:32
  matter
• 28:32
  of
• 28:32
  education.
• 28:33
  Americans
• 28:34
  have
• 28:34
  learned
• 28:35
  Chinese
• 28:35
  to
• 28:35
  go
• 28:35
  sell
• 28:36
  in
• 28:36
  China,
• 28:37
  but
• 28:37
  they
• 28:37
  won't
• 28:37
  deal
• 28:38
  with
• 28:38
  us
• 28:38
  and
• 28:38
  are
• 28:38
  in
• 28:39
  their
• 28:39
  own
• 28:39
  backyard.
• 28:40
  So
• 28:41
  I
• 28:42
  do
• 28:42
  think
• 28:43
  that
• 28:43
  action
• 28:44
  is
• 28:44
  more
• 28:44
  important.
• 28:45
  It
• 28:45
  comes
• 28:45
  from
• 28:46
  those
• 28:46
  companies
• 28:47
  who
• 28:47
  are
• 28:47
  working
• 28:47
  with
• 28:47
  you
• 28:48
  and
• 28:49
  the
• 28:49
  leadership
• 28:50
  is
• 28:50
  getting
• 28:50
  involved
• 28:51
  in
• 28:51
  the
• 28:51
  training
• 28:52
  and
• 28:52
  in
• 28:52
  the
• 28:52
  way
• 28:53
  that
• 28:53
  their
• 28:54
  guests
• 28:54
  were
• 28:54
  being
• 28:54
  treated,
• 28:55
  those
• 28:55
  leaders
• 28:56
  are
• 28:56
  the
• 28:57
  ones
• 28:57
  who
• 28:57
  are
• 28:57
  ultimately
• 28:57
  going
• 28:57
  to
• 28:58
  make
• 28:58
  a
• 28:58
  difference
• 28:58
  in
• 28:59
  this
• 28:59
  industry,
• 29:00
  because
• 29:00
  it's
• 29:00
  a
• 29:00
  top
• 29:01
  down
• 29:01
  thing.
• 29:01
  It
• 29:01
  can't
• 29:01
  be
• 29:02
  like
• 29:02
  the
• 29:02
  leaders
• 29:03
  hire
• 29:03
  consultants,
• 29:04
  the
• 29:04
  consultants
• 29:04
  go
• 29:04
  and
• 29:04
  train
• 29:05
  everybody
• 29:05
  else.
• 29:05
  And
• 29:06
  then,
• 29:06
  there's
• 29:06
  no
• 29:06
  incentives
• 29:06
  behind,
• 29:07
  there's
• 29:07
  no
• 29:07
  reason,
• 29:08
  the
• 29:08
  companies
• 29:08
  are
• 29:08
  just
• 29:09
  not
• 29:09
  giving
• 29:10
  their
• 29:10
  frontline.
• 29:11
  Any
• 29:11
  reasons
• 29:12
  to
• 29:12
  to
• 29:13
  do
• 29:13
  more
• 29:14
  above
• 29:14
  and
• 29:14
  beyond.
• 29:15
  And
• 29:15
  let
• 29:15
  me
• 29:15
  tell
• 29:15
  you
• 29:15
  welcoming
• 29:16
  people
• 29:16
  that
• 29:16
  you
• 29:16
  are
• 29:17
  not
• 29:17
  familiar
• 29:17
  with
• 29:18
  is
• 29:18
  a
• 29:18
  little
• 29:18
  bit
• 29:18
  above
• 29:18
  and
• 29:18
  beyond
• 29:19
  for
• 29:19
  everybody,
• 29:19
  unless
• 29:20
  it's
• 29:20
  part
• 29:20
  of
• 29:20
  your
• 29:20
  DNA,
• 29:21
  unless
• 29:21
  you're,
• 29:22
  you
• 29:22
  can
• 29:22
  educate,
• 29:22
  there
• 29:23
  is
• 29:23
  no
• 29:23
  edge,
• 29:23
  more
• 29:24
  education
• 29:24
  necessary
• 29:25
  for
• 29:25
  this
• 29:25
  issue.
• 29:25
  Everyone
• 29:26
  knows
• 29:26
  everything
• 29:27
  they
• 29:27
  need
• 29:27
  to
• 29:27
  know.
• 29:27
  It's
• 29:27
  a
• 29:27
  matter
• 29:28
  of
• 29:28
  willingness,
• 29:29
  and
• 29:29
  this
• 29:29
  is
• 29:29
  why,
• 29:29
  how
• 29:30
  many
• 29:30
  years
• 29:31
  haven't
• 29:31
  we
• 29:31
  been
• 29:31
  part
• 29:32
  of
• 29:32
  this
• 29:32
  industry
• 29:32
  going
• 29:33
  out
• 29:33
  there?
• 29:33
  There's
• 29:33
  a
• 29:33
  couple
• 29:33
  of
• 29:33
  that,
• 29:34
  that
• 29:34
  I
• 29:34
  was
• 29:34
  just
• 29:35
  reading
• 29:35
  about.
• 29:35
  They
• 29:35
  spent
• 29:35
  what
• 29:36
  50,
• 29:36
  60
• 29:36
  years
• 29:37
  are
• 29:37
  being
• 29:38
  the
• 29:38
  whole
• 29:38
  country,
• 29:39
  190,
• 29:39
  2000
• 29:40
  miles
• 29:40
  black
• 29:41
  couple,
• 29:41
  and
• 29:41
  they've
• 29:42
  seen
• 29:42
  it
• 29:42
  on
• 29:42
  and
• 29:42
  on.
• 29:42
  And
• 29:43
  they
• 29:43
  believe
• 29:43
  the
• 29:43
  same
• 29:43
  that
• 29:44
  if
• 29:44
  everyone
• 29:45
  can
• 29:45
  be
• 29:45
  welcomed
• 29:46
  there's
• 29:46
  great
• 29:46
  people
• 29:47
  out
• 29:47
  there.
• 29:48
  But
• 29:48
  what
• 29:48
  we're
• 29:48
  talking
• 29:49
  about
• 29:49
  specifically,
• 29:50
  The
• 29:50
  broader
• 29:50
  industry
• 29:51
  and
• 29:51
  the
• 29:51
  broader
• 29:51
  industry.
• 29:53
  I
• 29:54
  don't
• 29:54
  think
• 29:54
  they
• 29:54
  really
• 29:55
  care.
• 29:55
  They
• 29:55
  don't
• 29:55
  think
• 29:56
  they
• 29:56
  really
• 29:56
  are
• 29:56
  interested.
• 29:57
  So
• 29:57
  what
• 29:58
  does
• 29:58
  that
• 29:58
  mean
• 29:58
  to
• 29:58
  me?
• 29:58
  That
• 29:59
  means
• 29:59
  I'm
• 29:59
  the
• 29:59
  one
• 30:00
  who
• 30:00
  has
• 30:00
  to
• 30:00
  go
• 30:00
  out
• 30:00
  there
• 30:01
  and
• 30:01
  do
• 30:01
  the
• 30:01
  work.
• 30:02
  I'm
• 30:02
  the
• 30:02
  one
• 30:02
  who
• 30:02
  arrested
• 30:06
  them,
• 30:06
  invite
• 30:07
  them
• 30:08
  as
• 30:08
  opposed
• 30:09
  to
• 30:09
  waiting
• 30:09
  for
• 30:09
  them,
• 30:10
  to
• 30:10
  invite
• 30:10
  us
• 30:11
  into
• 30:11
  their
• 30:11
  spaces
• 30:16
  all
• 30:16
  the
• 30:16
  time
• 30:17
  everywhere.
• 30:19
  W
• 30:19
  you
• 30:19
  know
• 30:19
  this
• 30:20
  and
• 30:20
  thank
• 30:20
  you
• 30:20
  so
• 30:20
  much
• 30:20
  for
• 30:21
  that
• 30:21
  conversation.
• 30:21
  And
• 30:21
  for
• 30:22
  that
• 30:22
  for
• 30:22
  your
• 30:22
  points.
• 30:23
  I
• 30:23
  think
• 30:23
  the
• 30:23
  industry
• 30:24
  is
• 30:24
  doing
• 30:24
  a
• 30:24
  lot.
• 30:25
  I'm
• 30:25
  inside
• 30:26
  of
• 30:26
  this
• 30:26
  industry
• 30:26
  quite
• 30:27
  a
• 30:27
  bit
• 30:27
  from
• 30:27
  the
• 30:27
  top
• 30:28
  down.
• 30:28
  And
• 30:28
  I
• 30:28
  think
• 30:29
  one
• 30:29
  of
• 30:29
  the
• 30:29
  things
• 30:29
  I
• 30:29
  talked
• 30:30
  about
• 30:30
  earlier
• 30:30
  about
• 30:30
  data,
• 30:31
  I
• 30:31
  spent
• 30:31
  over
• 30:31
  a
• 30:31
  quarter
• 30:32
  million
• 30:32
  dollars
• 30:32
  last
• 30:32
  year,
• 30:33
  just
• 30:33
  in
• 30:33
  data
• 30:34
  alone.
• 30:34
  We
• 30:34
  took
• 30:34
  out
• 30:34
  over
• 30:35
  2,
• 30:35
  300,
• 30:35
  400
• 30:36
  folks.
• 30:37
  In
• 30:37
  the
• 30:37
  outdoors
• 30:38
  to
• 30:38
  gain
• 30:38
  this
• 30:38
  data.
• 30:39
  And
• 30:39
  what
• 30:40
  we
• 30:40
  learned
• 30:40
  in
• 30:40
  this
• 30:40
  data
• 30:41
  that
• 30:41
  97%
• 30:42
  of
• 30:42
  the
• 30:42
  folks
• 30:42
  who
• 30:43
  we
• 30:43
  spoke
• 30:43
  to,
• 30:43
  particularly
• 30:44
  the
• 30:44
  white
• 30:44
  folks,
• 30:44
  they
• 30:44
  have
• 30:45
  no
• 30:45
  clue
• 30:46
  on
• 30:46
  why
• 30:46
  black
• 30:46
  folks
• 30:46
  hadn't
• 30:47
  been
• 30:47
  in
• 30:47
  the
• 30:47
  outdoors,
• 30:48
  have
• 30:48
  no
• 30:48
  clue
• 30:49
  why
• 30:49
  we
• 30:49
  haven't
• 30:50
  exposed,
• 30:50
  been
• 30:50
  exposed
• 30:51
  to
• 30:51
  the
• 30:52
  public
• 30:52
  lands.
• 30:53
  And
• 30:53
  so
• 30:53
  I'm
• 30:53
  going
• 30:53
  off
• 30:53
  the
• 30:53
  data
• 30:54
  based
• 30:54
  on
• 30:54
  which
• 30:54
  we
• 30:55
  have.
• 30:55
  And
• 30:55
  so
• 30:55
  when
• 30:56
  you
• 30:56
  don't
• 30:56
  know
• 30:56
  the
• 30:56
  reason
• 30:57
  why
• 30:57
  folks
• 30:57
  had
• 30:58
  been
• 30:58
  in
• 30:58
  the
• 30:58
  outdoors,
• 30:59
  you
• 30:59
  tend
• 30:59
  to
• 30:59
  not
• 31:00
  know
• 31:00
  how
• 31:00
  to
• 31:00
  help.
• 31:00
  It's
• 31:01
  almost
• 31:01
  going
• 31:01
  to
• 31:01
  a
• 31:01
  doctor.
• 31:02
  If
• 31:02
  you
• 31:02
  don't
• 31:02
  know,
• 31:02
  if
• 31:03
  you
• 31:03
  go
• 31:03
  there
• 31:03
  with
• 31:03
  a
• 31:04
  w
• 31:04
  in
• 31:04
  your
• 31:04
  foot
• 31:05
  is
• 31:05
  hurting
• 31:05
  and
• 31:06
  you,
• 31:06
  and
• 31:06
  they
• 31:06
  go
• 31:07
  check
• 31:07
  in
• 31:07
  your
• 31:07
  brain
• 31:07
  and
• 31:08
  you're
• 31:08
  w
• 31:08
  what
• 31:08
  are
• 31:08
  you
• 31:08
  doing?
• 31:08
  I
• 31:08
  want
• 31:09
  folks
• 31:09
  to
• 31:09
  know
• 31:10
  the
• 31:10
  reason
• 31:10
  why
• 31:10
  we
• 31:11
  haven't
• 31:11
  been
• 31:11
  in
• 31:11
  the
• 31:11
  outdoors
• 31:12
  while
• 31:12
  we
• 31:12
  haven't
• 31:13
  been
• 31:13
  there.
• 31:13
  And
• 31:13
  when
• 31:14
  they
• 31:14
  know
• 31:14
  that
• 31:14
  they
• 31:15
  typically
• 31:15
  ask
• 31:15
  me,
• 31:15
  or
• 31:16
  what
• 31:16
  can
• 31:16
  I
• 31:16
  do?
• 31:17
  And
• 31:17
  I
• 31:17
  tell
• 31:17
  them
• 31:17
  straight
• 31:18
  up,
• 31:18
  go
• 31:18
  find
• 31:18
  some
• 31:19
  black
• 31:19
  friends
• 31:19
  and
• 31:19
  take
• 31:19
  them
• 31:19
  in
• 31:20
  the
• 31:20
  outdoors.
• 31:20
  This
• 31:21
  is
• 31:21
  for
• 31:21
  me.
• 31:22
  I
• 31:22
  am
• 31:22
  I'm
• 31:22
  very
• 31:23
  adamant
• 31:23
  about
• 31:23
  this,
• 31:23
  I
• 31:24
  I
• 31:24
  didn't
• 31:24
  love
• 31:25
  the
• 31:25
  outdoors
• 31:25
  before
• 31:26
  I
• 31:26
  got
• 31:26
  into
• 31:26
  the.
• 31:26
  I
• 31:26
  didn't
• 31:26
  know
• 31:27
  anything
• 31:27
  about
• 31:27
  the
• 31:27
  outdoor
• 31:28
  industry.
• 31:28
  What
• 31:28
  made
• 31:29
  me
• 31:29
  change
• 31:30
  and
• 31:30
  wanting
• 31:30
  to
• 31:30
  change
• 31:31
  the
• 31:31
  outdoor
• 31:31
  industry
• 31:31
  and
• 31:32
  lifestyle
• 31:32
  is
• 31:33
  when
• 31:33
  I
• 31:33
  was
• 31:33
  involved
• 31:34
  in
• 31:34
  it.
• 31:34
  When
• 31:34
  I
• 31:34
  was
• 31:34
  the
• 31:34
  only
• 31:35
  black
• 31:35
  executive
• 31:36
  in
• 31:36
  this
• 31:36
  space,
• 31:36
  I
• 31:36
  wanted
• 31:37
  to
• 31:37
  make
• 31:37
  sure
• 31:38
  that
• 31:38
  not
• 31:38
  only
• 31:39
  that
• 31:39
  we
• 31:39
  enjoyed
• 31:39
  the
• 31:39
  lifestyle,
• 31:40
  but
• 31:40
  that
• 31:40
  black
• 31:40
  folks
• 31:40
  were
• 31:41
  actually
• 31:41
  in
• 31:41
  this
• 31:41
  industry.
• 31:42
  We
• 31:42
  have
• 31:42
  this
• 31:43
  amazing
• 31:43
  scholarship
• 31:44
  program.
• 31:44
  W
• 31:44
  T.
• 31:44
  So
• 31:45
  I
• 31:45
  say
• 31:45
  to
• 31:45
  folks
• 31:45
  all
• 31:46
  the
• 31:46
  time,
• 31:46
  we're
• 31:46
  an
• 31:47
  action
• 31:47
  orientated
• 31:48
  company.
• 31:48
  We
• 31:48
  are
• 31:49
  very
• 31:49
  action
• 31:50
  orientated
• 31:50
  to
• 31:50
  the
• 31:50
  point
• 31:51
  that
• 31:51
  we,
• 31:52
  everything
• 31:52
  we
• 31:52
  do
• 31:53
  is
• 31:53
  sincere.
• 31:54
  It
• 31:54
  is
• 31:54
  meaningful.
• 31:55
  It
• 31:55
  is
• 31:55
  very
• 31:55
  measured,
• 31:56
  so
• 31:56
  that
• 31:57
  it's
• 31:57
  going
• 31:57
  to
• 31:57
  be
• 31:57
  sustainable.
• 31:58
  I
• 31:58
  just
• 31:59
  believe
• 32:00
  that
• 32:00
  folks
• 32:01
  have
• 32:01
  to
• 32:01
  be
• 32:02
  aware
• 32:03
  of
• 32:03
  the
• 32:03
  reasons
• 32:04
  why
• 32:04
  folks
• 32:05
  have
• 32:05
  issues,
• 32:06
  and
• 32:06
  once
• 32:06
  they
• 32:06
  are
• 32:06
  aware
• 32:08
  of
• 32:08
  the
• 32:08
  folks
• 32:08
  and
• 32:08
  why
• 32:08
  they
• 32:09
  have
• 32:10
  on
• 32:10
  the
• 32:10
  issues
• 32:10
  that
• 32:10
  they
• 32:10
  have,
• 32:11
  then
• 32:12
  we
• 32:12
  then
• 32:13
  start
• 32:13
  to
• 32:13
  have
• 32:13
  more.
• 32:13
  We
• 32:14
  start
• 32:14
  to
• 32:14
  put
• 32:14
  in
• 32:14
  action
• 32:15
  items
• 32:15
  in
• 32:15
  places,
• 32:16
  put
• 32:16
  in
• 32:16
  action
• 32:16
  items
• 32:17
  to
• 32:17
  help
• 32:17
  these
• 32:17
  folks
• 32:17
  get
• 32:18
  over
• 32:18
  this.
• 32:18
  It's
• 32:18
  going
• 32:18
  to
• 32:18
  be
• 32:18
  a
• 32:19
  long.
• 32:20
  It's
• 32:20
  going
• 32:20
  to
• 32:20
  take
• 32:20
  a
• 32:20
  long
• 32:21
  time
• 32:21
  for
• 32:21
  folks
• 32:22
  to
• 32:22
  look
• 32:22
  like
• 32:22
  me,
• 32:22
  to
• 32:23
  want
• 32:23
  to
• 32:23
  go
• 32:23
  into
• 32:23
  the
• 32:23
  outdoors
• 32:24
  on
• 32:24
  their
• 32:24
  own
• 32:25
  a
• 32:25
  long
• 32:26
  time.
• 32:26
  And
• 32:26
  I
• 32:26
  know
• 32:27
  that
• 32:27
  because
• 32:27
  again,
• 32:28
  I'm
• 32:28
  in
• 32:28
  this
• 32:28
  space
• 32:29
  and
• 32:29
  I'm
• 32:29
  doing
• 32:29
  this
• 32:29
  every
• 32:30
  single
• 32:30
  day,
• 32:30
  which
• 32:30
  like
• 32:31
  many
• 32:31
  of
• 32:31
  you
• 32:32
  are
• 32:32
  as
• 32:32
  well.
• 32:33
  However,
• 32:34
  our
• 32:34
  approach
• 32:34
  is
• 32:34
  just
• 32:34
  a
• 32:34
  little
• 32:35
  bit
• 32:35
  different.
• 32:35
  Our
• 32:35
  approach
• 32:36
  is,
• 32:36
  if
• 32:36
  they're
• 32:36
  49
• 32:37
  million,
• 32:38
  900
• 32:39
  folks
• 32:39
  are
• 32:39
  in
• 32:39
  the
• 32:39
  industry
• 32:40
  on
• 32:40
  the
• 32:40
  lifestyle
• 32:41
  that
• 32:41
  don't
• 32:41
  look
• 32:41
  like
• 32:41
  me
• 32:42
  or
• 32:42
  in
• 32:42
  45
• 32:42
  million
• 32:43
  of
• 32:43
  those
• 32:43
  folks
• 32:43
  look
• 32:43
  like
• 32:44
  me.
• 32:44
  Hell
• 32:44
  if
• 32:44
  35
• 32:45
  million,
• 32:45
  those
• 32:45
  folks
• 32:45
  really
• 32:46
  want
• 32:46
  to
• 32:46
  get
• 32:46
  some
• 32:46
  work
• 32:46
  done.
• 32:47
  I
• 32:47
  say
• 32:48
  35
• 32:48
  million
• 32:48
  folks
• 32:49
  go
• 32:49
  find
• 32:49
  them.
• 32:49
  Somebody
• 32:50
  that
• 32:50
  looks
• 32:50
  like
• 32:50
  me
• 32:50
  and
• 32:51
  take
• 32:51
  them
• 32:51
  in
• 32:51
  the
• 32:51
  outdoors.
• 32:51
  We'll
• 32:52
  have
• 32:52
  35
• 32:52
  million
• 32:53
  more
• 32:53
  folks
• 32:53
  that
• 32:53
  look
• 32:53
  like
• 32:53
  me
• 32:53
  in
• 32:53
  the
• 32:54
  outdoors
• 32:54
  period.
• 32:55
  It's
• 32:55
  not
• 32:55
  rocket
• 32:56
  science,
• 32:56
  but
• 32:56
  people
• 32:57
  need
• 32:57
  to
• 32:57
  know
• 32:57
  what's
• 32:57
  going
• 32:57
  on
• 32:58
  first.
• 32:59
  And
• 32:59
  I
• 32:59
  just
• 32:59
  don't
• 32:59
  want
• 32:59
  to
• 32:59
  Deane
• 32:59
  anybody
• 33:00
  about
• 33:01
  something
• 33:01
  that
• 33:01
  they
• 33:01
  don't
• 33:01
  know
• 33:02
  now
• 33:02
  when
• 33:02
  they
• 33:02
  know,
• 33:03
  and
• 33:03
  they
• 33:04
  don't
• 33:04
  do
• 33:04
  anythings.
• 33:04
  That's
• 33:05
  what
• 33:05
  I
• 33:05
  want
• 33:05
  to
• 33:05
  say.
• 33:05
  What's
• 33:06
  the
• 33:06
  problem
• 33:06
  then?
• 33:08
  Can
• 33:08
  I
• 33:08
  ask
• 33:09
  here?
• 33:09
  Oh,
• 33:10
  I'm
• 33:10
  sorry.
• 33:10
  No,
• 33:10
  go
• 33:11
  ahead.
• 33:12
  I
• 33:12
  just
• 33:12
  I
• 33:13
  here
• 33:13
  in
• 33:13
  Canada,
• 33:13
  our
• 33:14
  provincial
• 33:14
  and
• 33:14
  federal
• 33:15
  governments
• 33:15
  who
• 33:16
  both
• 33:16
  have
• 33:17
  ownership
• 33:17
  of
• 33:17
  several
• 33:18
  public
• 33:18
  land
• 33:18
  spaces
• 33:19
  across
• 33:19
  the
• 33:19
  country
• 33:20
  do
• 33:20
  several
• 33:21
  targeted
• 33:21
  new
• 33:21
  camper
• 33:22
  campaigns
• 33:23
  to
• 33:23
  new
• 33:24
  Canadians
• 33:24
  of
• 33:25
  various
• 33:25
  cultural
• 33:26
  demographics.
• 33:27
  And
• 33:27
  they
• 33:27
  actually
• 33:28
  take
• 33:28
  them
• 33:28
  out
• 33:28
  to
• 33:28
  campgrounds,
• 33:29
  campgrounds
• 33:30
  closer
• 33:30
  to
• 33:31
  some
• 33:31
  of
• 33:31
  our
• 33:31
  urban
• 33:31
  centers.
• 33:32
  So
• 33:32
  they
• 33:32
  don't
• 33:32
  have
• 33:32
  as
• 33:32
  far
• 33:32
  to
• 33:33
  go,
• 33:33
  but
• 33:34
  taking
• 33:34
  those
• 33:34
  campgrounds
• 33:35
  and
• 33:35
  walks
• 33:35
  through
• 33:35
  the
• 33:36
  process,
• 33:36
  basic
• 33:37
  things
• 33:37
  like
• 33:38
  pitching
• 33:38
  a
• 33:38
  tent
• 33:38
  or
• 33:39
  how
• 33:39
  to
• 33:39
  plug
• 33:39
  in
• 33:39
  they'll
• 33:40
  get
• 33:40
  a
• 33:40
  couple
• 33:40
  of
• 33:40
  RV
• 33:41
  rentals
• 33:41
  out
• 33:41
  there
• 33:41
  and
• 33:41
  pump
• 33:42
  the,
• 33:42
  plug
• 33:42
  them
• 33:43
  in
• 33:43
  and
• 33:43
  teach
• 33:43
  them
• 33:43
  how
• 33:43
  to
• 33:43
  work
• 33:44
  those
• 33:44
  connections
• 33:44
  and
• 33:44
  things
• 33:45
  like
• 33:45
  that.
• 33:45
  Are
• 33:45
  there
• 33:46
  programs
• 33:46
  like
• 33:46
  that
• 33:46
  in,
• 33:47
  in
• 33:47
  the
• 33:48
  states
• 33:48
  anywhere
• 33:48
  to
• 33:48
  your
• 33:49
  guys'
• 33:49
  knowledge?
• 33:52
  Yes.
• 33:57
  I
• 33:57
  see
• 33:57
  those
• 33:58
  programs.
• 33:59
  Theirs
• 33:59
  is
• 33:59
  REI.
• 34:00
  As
• 34:00
  a
• 34:00
  matter
• 34:00
  of
• 34:00
  fact,
• 34:00
  one
• 34:00
  of
• 34:00
  which
• 34:01
  I
• 34:01
  think
• 34:01
  is
• 34:01
  a
• 34:01
  concern
• 34:01
  of
• 34:01
  your
• 34:02
  Mer
• 34:02
  or
• 34:02
  MRI
• 34:03
  or
• 34:03
  with
• 34:04
  a
• 34:04
  big
• 34:04
  outdoor
• 34:04
  retailer.
• 34:05
  They
• 34:05
  are
• 34:05
  there.
• 34:06
  And
• 34:06
  in
• 34:06
  fact,
• 34:06
  all
• 34:07
  of
• 34:07
  the
• 34:07
  manufacturers
• 34:07
  have
• 34:08
  programs,
• 34:08
  sponsorships,
• 34:09
  funds,
• 34:10
  grants,
• 34:11
  everything
• 34:11
  to
• 34:11
  encourage
• 34:12
  and
• 34:12
  incentivize
• 34:13
  more,
• 34:13
  people
• 34:14
  of
• 34:14
  color
• 34:14
  to
• 34:15
  participate
• 34:15
  in
• 34:15
  outdoor
• 34:16
  activities
• 34:16
  to
• 34:16
  have
• 34:17
  representation.
• 34:18
  It
• 34:18
  is
• 34:18
  done.
• 34:18
  And
• 34:19
  that's
• 34:19
  just
• 34:19
  the
• 34:19
  retail
• 34:20
  side
• 34:20
  on
• 34:20
  the
• 34:20
  government
• 34:21
  agency
• 34:21
  side.
• 34:21
  Absolutely.
• 34:22
  I
• 34:22
  see
• 34:23
  these
• 34:23
  core
• 34:23
  games
• 34:23
  all
• 34:23
  the
• 34:23
  time.
• 34:24
  We
• 34:24
  have
• 34:24
  an
• 34:24
  outgoing
• 34:25
  head
• 34:25
  of
• 34:26
  our
• 34:26
  parks
• 34:26
  services
• 34:27
  as
• 34:27
  a
• 34:27
  Cuban
• 34:28
  American
• 34:28
  man
• 34:28
  or
• 34:29
  was
• 34:29
  previously.
• 34:30
  But
• 34:30
  yeah,
• 34:31
  I
• 34:31
  do
• 34:31
  not
• 34:31
  think
• 34:31
  that
• 34:32
  the,
• 34:32
  I
• 34:32
  think
• 34:33
  there's
• 34:33
  a
• 34:33
  lot
• 34:33
  of
• 34:33
  comparison
• 34:34
  here
• 34:34
  with
• 34:34
  the
• 34:34
  difference
• 34:35
  being
• 34:35
  new
• 34:35
  has
• 34:35
  a
• 34:35
  lot
• 34:36
  of
• 34:36
  things
• 34:37
  that
• 34:37
  unlike
• 34:38
  like
• 34:38
  Earl
• 34:38
  was
• 34:38
  saying,
• 34:38
  there's
• 34:39
  not
• 34:39
  a
• 34:39
  lot
• 34:39
  of
• 34:39
  education
• 34:40
  there
• 34:40
  that's
• 34:41
  being
• 34:41
  done
• 34:42
  across
• 34:42
  both
• 34:42
  sides.
• 34:42
  I'm
• 34:43
  gonna,
• 34:44
  yeah,
• 34:45
  I
• 34:45
  have
• 34:45
  more
• 34:45
  to
• 34:45
  say,
• 34:45
  but
• 34:45
  I
• 34:46
  want
• 34:46
  others
• 34:46
  to
• 34:46
  speak
• 34:46
  for.
• 34:50
  So
• 34:51
  I'll
• 34:51
  speak
• 34:51
  up
• 34:51
  a
• 34:51
  little
• 34:52
  bit.
• 34:52
  I
• 34:52
  think
• 34:52
  there's
• 34:52
  room
• 34:52
  for
• 34:53
  both.
• 34:53
  And
• 34:53
  I
• 34:53
  think
• 34:53
  that
• 34:54
  both
• 34:54
  are
• 34:55
  Kim
• 34:55
  at
• 34:55
  the
• 34:55
  same
• 34:56
  time
• 34:56
  simultaneously
• 34:57
  exists.
• 34:57
  There
• 34:58
  are
• 34:58
  probably
• 34:58
  a
• 34:58
  lot
• 34:59
  of
• 34:59
  people
• 34:59
  in
• 35:00
  multiple
• 35:01
  minority
• 35:02
  communities
• 35:02
  that
• 35:03
  don't
• 35:03
  know
• 35:03
  to
• 35:04
  say
• 35:04
  they
• 35:04
  don't
• 35:04
  know
• 35:04
  all
• 35:04
  camping
• 35:05
  is
• 35:05
  probably
• 35:05
  disingenuous.
• 35:06
  They
• 35:06
  know
• 35:06
  about
• 35:06
  camping,
• 35:06
  but
• 35:06
  they've
• 35:07
  never
• 35:07
  even
• 35:08
  thought
• 35:08
  about
• 35:08
  it.
• 35:08
  Maybe
• 35:09
  in
• 35:09
  terms
• 35:09
  of
• 35:09
  something
• 35:09
  that
• 35:09
  would
• 35:09
  be
• 35:10
  the
• 35:10
  big
• 35:10
  want
• 35:11
  to
• 35:11
  do
• 35:11
  for
• 35:12
  a
• 35:12
  variety
• 35:13
  of
• 35:13
  reasons.
• 35:13
  It,
• 35:14
  I
• 35:14
  can
• 35:14
  speak
• 35:14
  to
• 35:14
  the
• 35:15
  LGBT
• 35:15
  community.
• 35:15
  At
• 35:16
  least
• 35:16
  my
• 35:16
  part
• 35:16
  of
• 35:16
  it.
• 35:16
  My
• 35:16
  own
• 35:17
  experience
• 35:17
  in
• 35:17
  it,
• 35:17
  I
• 35:17
  should
• 35:18
  say
• 35:18
  in
• 35:18
  that
• 35:18
  a
• 35:18
  lot
• 35:19
  of
• 35:19
  times
• 35:20
  when
• 35:20
  I
• 35:20
  was
• 35:20
  growing
• 35:21
  up,
• 35:21
  I
• 35:22
  didn't
• 35:22
  think
• 35:22
  about
• 35:22
  camping
• 35:23
  because
• 35:23
  it
• 35:23
  didn't
• 35:24
  feel
• 35:24
  like
• 35:24
  again,
• 35:24
  that
• 35:25
  safe
• 35:25
  space.
• 35:25
  Not
• 35:26
  that
• 35:26
  it
• 35:26
  wasn't,
• 35:26
  but
• 35:26
  it
• 35:26
  didn't
• 35:27
  feel
• 35:27
  like
• 35:27
  one.
• 35:27
  Instead
• 35:28
  I
• 35:28
  had,
• 35:28
  gay
• 35:29
  bars
• 35:29
  to
• 35:29
  go
• 35:29
  to
• 35:29
  and
• 35:29
  I
• 35:29
  had
• 35:30
  groups
• 35:30
  that,
• 35:30
  youth
• 35:31
  groups
• 35:31
  that
• 35:31
  I
• 35:31
  could
• 35:31
  be
• 35:31
  part
• 35:31
  of
• 35:32
  or
• 35:32
  choruses
• 35:33
  that
• 35:33
  I
• 35:33
  could
• 35:33
  sing
• 35:34
  in.
• 35:34
  And
• 35:35
  it's
• 35:35
  not
• 35:36
  unreasonable
• 35:36
  to
• 35:36
  me
• 35:36
  that,
• 35:37
  that.
• 35:37
  Version
• 35:37
  some
• 35:38
  version
• 35:38
  of
• 35:38
  that
• 35:39
  same
• 35:39
  story
• 35:40
  exists
• 35:40
  in
• 35:41
  other
• 35:41
  communities
• 35:41
  as
• 35:42
  well.
• 35:42
  At
• 35:42
  the
• 35:43
  same
• 35:43
  time,
• 35:44
  if
• 35:44
  I'm
• 35:44
  a
• 35:45
  campground
• 35:45
  owner
• 35:46
  and
• 35:46
  my
• 35:46
  business
• 35:47
  is
• 35:47
  booming
• 35:48
  with
• 35:48
  the
• 35:48
  demographics
• 35:49
  that
• 35:49
  I
• 35:49
  have
• 35:50
  that
• 35:50
  have
• 35:50
  historically
• 35:51
  come
• 35:51
  to
• 35:51
  my
• 35:52
  own
• 35:52
  establishment,
• 35:53
  I
• 35:53
  don't
• 35:54
  necessarily
• 35:54
  have
• 35:55
  a
• 35:55
  catalyst
• 35:56
  for
• 35:56
  me
• 35:57
  as
• 35:57
  an
• 35:57
  owner
• 35:57
  to
• 35:58
  go
• 35:58
  create
• 35:59
  or
• 35:59
  to
• 35:59
  go
• 35:59
  expand,
• 36:00
  my
• 36:01
  demographic
• 36:01
  outreach,
• 36:02
  because
• 36:02
  I
• 36:02
  don't
• 36:03
  need
• 36:03
  to,
• 36:03
  from
• 36:03
  a
• 36:03
  business
• 36:04
  standpoint
• 36:05
  right
• 36:05
  now
• 36:06
  the
• 36:06
  industry
• 36:07
  is
• 36:07
  in
• 36:07
  a
• 36:08
  growth
• 36:08
  phase.
• 36:08
  Certainly
• 36:09
  not.
• 36:09
  It's
• 36:09
  mature,
• 36:10
  but
• 36:10
  it's
• 36:10
  growing
• 36:11
  crazy,
• 36:11
  like
• 36:11
  crazy
• 36:12
  and
• 36:13
  campgrounds
• 36:13
  are
• 36:13
  hard
• 36:14
  to
• 36:14
  build.
• 36:15
  So
• 36:15
  there's
• 36:15
  not
• 36:15
  enough
• 36:16
  campgrounds
• 36:16
  to
• 36:17
  meet
• 36:17
  the
• 36:17
  demand
• 36:18
  that's
• 36:18
  out
• 36:18
  there.
• 36:19
  Something
• 36:20
  needs
• 36:20
  to
• 36:20
  incentivize
• 36:21
  campground
• 36:22
  owners
• 36:23
  that
• 36:24
  don't
• 36:24
  naturally
• 36:25
  have
• 36:25
  that
• 36:25
  inborn
• 36:26
  instinct
• 36:26
  to
• 36:26
  do
• 36:26
  that.
• 36:26
  If
• 36:27
  somebody
• 36:27
  also
• 36:27
  was
• 36:27
  saying.
• 36:28
  To
• 36:28
  reach
• 36:29
  out
• 36:29
  to
• 36:29
  new
• 36:29
  demographics,
• 36:30
  just
• 36:31
  as
• 36:32
  those
• 36:32
  demographics,
• 36:33
  they
• 36:33
  haven't
• 36:33
  historically
• 36:34
  camped
• 36:34
  LGBT
• 36:35
  community,
• 36:35
  people
• 36:36
  of
• 36:36
  color,
• 36:36
  whatnot,
• 36:38
  having
• 36:38
  a
• 36:38
  catalyst
• 36:39
  to
• 36:39
  make
• 36:39
  them
• 36:39
  want
• 36:40
  to
• 36:40
  go
• 36:40
  camping.
• 36:40
  That
• 36:40
  could
• 36:40
  be
• 36:41
  a
• 36:41
  marketing
• 36:41
  campaign.
• 36:41
  It
• 36:42
  could
• 36:42
  be
• 36:42
  an
• 36:42
  ex,
• 36:42
  it
• 36:43
  could
• 36:43
  be
• 36:43
  a
• 36:43
  third-party
• 36:43
  circumstance.
• 36:44
  Like
• 36:45
  something
• 36:45
  like
• 36:45
  this
• 36:45
  pandemic
• 36:46
  has
• 36:46
  caused
• 36:46
  a
• 36:46
  lot
• 36:46
  of
• 36:47
  people
• 36:47
  to
• 36:47
  suddenly
• 36:47
  go
• 36:48
  out.
• 36:48
  It
• 36:48
  could
• 36:48
  be
• 36:48
  changing
• 36:49
  in
• 36:49
  cultural
• 36:49
  norms,
• 36:50
  like
• 36:50
  teleworking.
• 36:51
  That
• 36:51
  is
• 36:51
  a
• 36:51
  huge
• 36:52
  influx
• 36:53
  of
• 36:54
  full-time
• 36:54
  RV
• 36:54
  campers.
• 36:55
  And
• 36:55
  our
• 36:56
  full-time
• 36:56
  campers
• 36:57
  is
• 36:57
  a
• 36:57
  huge
• 36:58
  adjustment
• 36:58
  for
• 36:59
  legacy
• 36:59
  campground
• 37:00
  owners.
• 37:01
  And
• 37:01
  no
• 37:01
  one
• 37:02
  thing
• 37:02
  is
• 37:03
  going
• 37:03
  to
• 37:03
  do
• 37:03
  any
• 37:03
  bit
• 37:04
  of
• 37:04
  good
• 37:05
  if
• 37:05
  it's
• 37:05
  not
• 37:05
  met
• 37:06
  by
• 37:06
  some
• 37:06
  either
• 37:06
  opportunity
• 37:07
  or
• 37:08
  engineered
• 37:08
  circumstance
• 37:10
  to
• 37:10
  match
• 37:10
  it.
• 37:10
  Yeah,
• 37:11
  it's
• 37:11
  chicken
• 37:11
  egg,
• 37:12
  but
• 37:12
  it's
• 37:12
  in
• 37:12
  reality,
• 37:13
  it's
• 37:13
  both
• 37:14
  and
• 37:14
  it's
• 37:14
  striking
• 37:14
  while
• 37:15
  the
• 37:15
  iron
• 37:15
  is
• 37:15
  hot.
• 37:15
  That's
• 37:16
  going
• 37:16
  to
• 37:16
  make
• 37:16
  real
• 37:16
  change.
• 37:17
  I
• 37:17
  think
• 37:17
  I
• 37:17
  lost
• 37:17
  connection.
• 37:18
  Yeah.
• 37:18
  I'm
• 37:18
  so
• 37:18
  sorry,
• 37:19
  everyone.
• 37:19
  Wind
• 37:20
  Al
• 37:20
  when
• 37:20
  you
• 37:20
  were
• 37:20
  speaking
• 37:21
  and
• 37:21
  I
• 37:21
  apologize.
• 37:22
  Everything
• 37:23
  you're
• 37:23
  saying,
• 37:24
  but
• 37:24
  to
• 37:24
  that
• 37:24
  question
• 37:25
  that
• 37:25
  was
• 37:25
  asked
• 37:25
  in
• 37:25
  regards
• 37:26
  to
• 37:26
  Canada,
• 37:26
  we're
• 37:26
  working
• 37:27
  with
• 37:27
  the
• 37:27
  national
• 37:27
  and
• 37:27
  state
• 37:28
  parks
• 37:28
  right
• 37:28
  now
• 37:29
  as
• 37:29
  a
• 37:29
  company,
• 37:30
  as
• 37:30
  a
• 37:30
  firm.
• 37:30
  And
• 37:31
  we're
• 37:31
  also
• 37:31
  working
• 37:31
  with
• 37:32
  a
• 37:32
  lot
• 37:32
  of
• 37:32
  the
• 37:32
  a
• 37:33
  lot
• 37:33
  of
• 37:33
  the
• 37:33
  groups
• 37:33
  out
• 37:33
  there,
• 37:33
  for
• 37:34
  instance
• 37:34
  RVIA
• 37:35
  and
• 37:35
  RVDA
• 37:36
  what
• 37:36
  I've
• 37:36
  shared
• 37:36
  with
• 37:37
  them
• 37:37
  in,
• 37:40
  and
• 37:40
  several
• 37:41
  of
• 37:41
  my
• 37:41
  conversations
• 37:41
  is
• 37:42
  that
• 37:42
  we
• 37:42
  have
• 37:42
  to
• 37:42
  start
• 37:43
  at
• 37:43
  a
• 37:43
  teen
• 37:43
  to
• 37:43
  have
• 37:44
  life
• 37:44
  paraded
• 37:44
  around
• 37:45
  in
• 37:46
  RVs
• 37:46
  and
• 37:47
  on
• 37:47
  billboards
• 37:47
  and
• 37:48
  things
• 37:48
  of
• 37:48
  that
• 37:48
  nature.
• 37:48
  But
• 37:49
  it's
• 37:49
  another
• 37:49
  thing
• 37:49
  to
• 37:49
  educate
• 37:50
  us
• 37:50
  about
• 37:50
  RV
• 37:51
  financing,
• 37:52
  particularly
• 37:52
  because
• 37:53
  we've
• 37:53
  dealt
• 37:53
  with
• 37:53
  so
• 37:53
  much
• 37:53
  red
• 37:54
  lining
• 37:54
  and
• 37:54
  understanding
• 37:55
  what
• 37:55
  financing
• 37:55
  is
• 37:56
  in
• 37:56
  regards
• 37:56
  to
• 37:56
  RVs.
• 37:57
  But
• 37:57
  it's
• 37:57
  another
• 37:57
  thing
• 37:58
  is
• 37:58
  to
• 37:59
  educate
• 37:59
  those
• 37:59
  sales
• 38:00
  folks
• 38:00
  that
• 38:00
  are
• 38:01
  actually
• 38:01
  at
• 38:01
  these
• 38:01
  RV
• 38:02
  dealerships,
• 38:02
  who
• 38:02
  do
• 38:02
  not
• 38:03
  look
• 38:03
  like
• 38:03
  me
• 38:03
  and
• 38:04
  may
• 38:04
  not
• 38:04
  see
• 38:04
  folks
• 38:04
  that
• 38:04
  look
• 38:05
  like
• 38:05
  me,
• 38:05
  come
• 38:05
  in
• 38:06
  and
• 38:06
  sharing
• 38:06
  with
• 38:07
  them.
• 38:07
  Some
• 38:07
  of
• 38:07
  the
• 38:07
  plates
• 38:08
  that
• 38:08
  we
• 38:08
  do
• 38:08
  have,
• 38:09
  and
• 38:09
  when
• 38:09
  it
• 38:09
  comes
• 38:09
  to
• 38:10
  financing
• 38:10
  and
• 38:10
  things
• 38:10
  of
• 38:11
  that
• 38:11
  nature,
• 38:11
  all
• 38:11
  these
• 38:12
  things
• 38:12
  that
• 38:12
  I
• 38:12
  speak
• 38:13
  of,
• 38:13
  I
• 38:13
  tell
• 38:13
  folks
• 38:14
  all
• 38:14
  the
• 38:14
  time
• 38:14
  we
• 38:14
  try
• 38:14
  to
• 38:14
  get
• 38:15
  as
• 38:15
  much
• 38:15
  data
• 38:15
  as.
• 38:15
  So
• 38:15
  that
• 38:16
  we're
• 38:16
  not
• 38:16
  speaking
• 38:16
  so
• 38:16
  much
• 38:16
  on
• 38:17
  opinions
• 38:17
  because
• 38:18
  at
• 38:18
  the
• 38:18
  end
• 38:18
  of
• 38:18
  the
• 38:18
  day,
• 38:19
  I
• 38:19
  think
• 38:19
  the
• 38:19
  industry
• 38:20
  in
• 38:20
  the
• 38:20
  last
• 38:20
  the
• 38:20
  last
• 38:21
  six
• 38:21
  or
• 38:21
  seven
• 38:21
  months
• 38:22
  have
• 38:22
  decided
• 38:22
  to
• 38:22
  say,
• 38:23
  listen,
• 38:23
  we
• 38:23
  have
• 38:23
  an
• 38:24
  issue
• 38:24
  rather
• 38:24
  than
• 38:24
  having
• 38:25
  it
• 38:25
  well,
• 38:25
  not
• 38:25
  necessarily
• 38:26
  issue,
• 38:26
  but
• 38:26
  an
• 38:26
  opportunity.
• 38:27
  We
• 38:27
  have
• 38:27
  a
• 38:27
  $1.2
• 38:28
  trillion
• 38:29
  opportunity,
• 38:30
  a
• 38:30
  really
• 38:30
  a
• 38:30
  $560
• 38:31
  billion
• 38:32
  opportunity,
• 38:32
  which
• 38:32
  is
• 38:33
  what
• 38:33
  we
• 38:33
  spend
• 38:34
  particularly
• 38:34
  black
• 38:35
  folks
• 38:35
  spend
• 38:35
  in
• 38:36
  a
• 38:36
  consumer
• 38:36
  space
• 38:37
  of
• 38:37
  a
• 38:37
  non
• 38:38
  equitable
• 38:38
  products.
• 38:39
  And
• 38:39
  I
• 38:39
  think
• 38:39
  for
• 38:40
  me,
• 38:40
  we
• 38:40
  will
• 38:41
  continue
• 38:42
  as
• 38:42
  a
• 38:42
  company
• 38:42
  to
• 38:42
  educate
• 38:43
  folks
• 38:44
  about
• 38:44
  the
• 38:44
  outdoors.
• 38:45
  We're
• 38:45
  going
• 38:45
  to
• 38:45
  continue
• 38:45
  to
• 38:45
  educate
• 38:46
  the
• 38:46
  lifestylers,
• 38:46
  which
• 38:47
  don't
• 38:47
  look
• 38:47
  like
• 38:48
  me
• 38:48
  about
• 38:49
  why
• 38:49
  we
• 38:49
  haven't
• 38:50
  been
• 38:50
  any
• 38:50
  outdoor
• 38:50
  educate
• 38:51
  the
• 38:51
  industry
• 38:52
  on
• 38:52
  how
• 38:52
  to
• 38:53
  to,
• 38:53
  to
• 38:54
  not
• 38:54
  only
• 38:54
  just
• 38:54
  market
• 38:55
  to
• 38:55
  us,
• 38:55
  but
• 38:55
  to
• 38:55
  educate
• 38:56
  us
• 38:56
  as
• 38:56
  well.
• 38:56
  It's
• 38:57
  one
• 38:57
  thing
• 38:57
  to
• 38:57
  want
• 38:58
  to
• 38:58
  do
• 38:58
  something.
• 38:58
  It's
• 38:59
  another
• 38:59
  thing
• 38:59
  to
• 38:59
  know
• 38:59
  how
• 38:59
  to
• 39:00
  do
• 39:00
  it.
• 39:00
  Yeah.
• 39:01
  We
• 39:01
  take
• 39:01
  folks
• 39:01
  out
• 39:02
  in
• 39:02
  the
• 39:02
  outdoors,
• 39:02
  they
• 39:02
  don't
• 39:02
  know
• 39:02
  what
• 39:03
  a
• 39:03
  Trailhead
• 39:03
  is.
• 39:03
  They
• 39:03
  don't
• 39:04
  know
• 39:04
  where
• 39:04
  just
• 39:04
  what
• 39:05
  a
• 39:05
  trail
• 39:05
  is
• 39:05
  or
• 39:06
  having
• 39:06
  the
• 39:06
  right,
• 39:07
  not
• 39:07
  necessarily
• 39:07
  having
• 39:08
  the
• 39:08
  right
• 39:08
  equipment
• 39:08
  because
• 39:09
  we're
• 39:09
  at
• 39:09
  where
• 39:09
  we
• 39:09
  live.
• 39:10
  I
• 39:10
  live
• 39:10
  in
• 39:10
  an
• 39:10
  area
• 39:11
  with
• 39:11
  250
• 39:11
  waterfalls
• 39:12
  in
• 39:12
  a
• 39:12
  two
• 39:12
  mile
• 39:13
  radius,
• 39:13
  or
• 39:13
  we
• 39:13
  have
• 39:13
  black
• 39:14
  folks
• 39:14
  in
• 39:14
  our
• 39:14
  area
• 39:15
  that
• 39:15
  don't
• 39:15
  even
• 39:15
  know
• 39:16
  anything
• 39:16
  about
• 39:17
  those
• 39:17
  waterfalls.
• 39:18
  So
• 39:18
  it's
• 39:18
  not
• 39:18
  necessarily
• 39:19
  about
• 39:19
  access.
• 39:19
  What
• 39:19
  we
• 39:20
  found
• 39:20
  is
• 39:20
  more
• 39:21
  so
• 39:21
  about
• 39:21
  being
• 39:22
  educated
• 39:23
  because
• 39:23
  no
• 39:24
  one
• 39:24
  is
• 39:24
  twisting
• 39:25
  anyone's
• 39:25
  arms
• 39:26
  to
• 39:26
  go
• 39:26
  into
• 39:27
  the
• 39:27
  outdoors,
• 39:28
  our
• 39:28
  company,
• 39:29
  what
• 39:29
  we
• 39:29
  plan
• 39:30
  to
• 39:30
  do,
• 39:30
  we
• 39:31
  want
• 39:31
  to
• 39:32
  educate
• 39:33
  and
• 39:33
  invite
• 39:34
  folks
• 39:34
  to
• 39:34
  want
• 39:35
  to
• 39:35
  do
• 39:35
  this
• 39:35
  on
• 39:35
  their
• 39:35
  own.
• 39:36
  The
• 39:36
  more
• 39:37
  folks
• 39:37
  who
• 39:37
  want
• 39:37
  to
• 39:37
  do
• 39:37
  this
• 39:37
  on
• 39:38
  their
• 39:38
  own,
• 39:38
  the
• 39:38
  better
• 39:39
  week,
• 39:39
  the
• 39:39
  better
• 39:39
  we
• 39:39
  believe
• 39:40
  the
• 39:40
  outcome
• 39:41
  will
• 39:41
  be.
• 39:46
  Lindsay,
• 39:47
  you've
• 39:47
  been
• 39:47
  kinda
• 39:47
  quiet
• 39:47
  over
• 39:48
  there.
• 39:48
  Do
• 39:48
  you
• 39:48
  have
• 39:48
  anything
• 39:48
  to
• 39:48
  add
• 39:48
  to
• 39:49
  the
• 39:49
  conversation?
• 39:51
  I
• 39:51
  just
• 39:51
  appreciate
• 39:52
  listening
• 39:53
  to
• 39:53
  it.
• 39:53
  I
• 39:54
  enjoy
• 39:54
  it
• 39:55
  thoroughly.
• 39:56
  I
• 39:56
  just,
• 39:56
  I
• 39:56
  think
• 39:57
  a
• 39:57
  lot
• 39:57
  of
• 39:57
  it's.
• 40:00
  I
• 40:00
  think
• 40:01
  Earl
• 40:01
  is
• 40:01
  on
• 40:02
  the
• 40:02
  leading
• 40:03
  and
• 40:03
  the
• 40:03
  front
• 40:03
  edge
• 40:04
  of
• 40:04
  this.
• 40:04
  And
• 40:05
  he's
• 40:05
  willing
• 40:05
  to
• 40:05
  put
• 40:05
  himself
• 40:06
  into,
• 40:06
  to
• 40:07
  uncomfortable
• 40:07
  situations
• 40:08
  as
• 40:08
  is
• 40:09
  Al
• 40:09
  maybe
• 40:10
  that's
• 40:11
  and
• 40:11
  guys
• 40:12
  correct
• 40:12
  me
• 40:12
  if
• 40:12
  I'm
• 40:12
  wrong,
• 40:13
  but
• 40:13
  that's,
• 40:13
  you
• 40:13
  are
• 40:14
  bigger
• 40:15
  men
• 40:16
  who
• 40:16
  are
• 40:16
  more
• 40:17
  forceful.
• 40:18
  I
• 40:18
  have
• 40:18
  a
• 40:18
  lot
• 40:19
  of
• 40:19
  friends
• 40:20
  that
• 40:20
  have
• 40:20
  a
• 40:20
  lot
• 40:21
  of
• 40:21
  women
• 40:22
  in
• 40:22
  my
• 40:22
  life,
• 40:22
  women
• 40:23
  of
• 40:23
  color
• 40:23
  that
• 40:24
  anytime
• 40:24
  I
• 40:24
  invite
• 40:25
  them
• 40:25
  to
• 40:25
  go
• 40:25
  out
• 40:26
  camping
• 40:26
  or
• 40:26
  out
• 40:26
  playing
• 40:27
  in
• 40:27
  the
• 40:27
  woods,
• 40:27
  they
• 40:27
  would
• 40:27
  say
• 40:28
  over
• 40:28
  my
• 40:28
  dead
• 40:28
  body.
• 40:29
  I'm
• 40:29
  good.
• 40:29
  No,
• 40:29
  thank
• 40:30
  you.
• 40:30
  And
• 40:30
  so
• 40:31
  it's
• 40:31
  a
• 40:31
  lot
• 40:32
  of
• 40:32
  that
• 40:32
  discomfort
• 40:33
  and
• 40:33
  it's
• 40:33
  not
• 40:33
  only
• 40:34
  the
• 40:34
  discomfort
• 40:34
  of
• 40:35
  them
• 40:35
  personally,
• 40:36
  but
• 40:36
  it's
• 40:36
  also
• 40:37
  educating
• 40:37
  the
• 40:38
  folks
• 40:39
  around
• 40:40
  us
• 40:40
  and
• 40:41
  shielding
• 40:41
  them
• 40:42
  from
• 40:42
  any
• 40:42
  of
• 40:42
  the
• 40:43
  negative
• 40:43
  things
• 40:44
  that
• 40:44
  go
• 40:44
  wrong.
• 40:45
  When
• 40:45
  you
• 40:45
  bring
• 40:45
  people
• 40:45
  places.
• 40:46
  It
• 40:46
  might
• 40:46
  not
• 40:47
  be
• 40:47
  blatant
• 40:48
  in
• 40:49
  your
• 40:49
  face
• 40:49
  aggression
• 40:50
  or
• 40:51
  calling
• 40:51
  people
• 40:51
  out,
• 40:51
  or,
• 40:52
  Pushing
• 40:52
  people
• 40:52
  on
• 40:52
  a
• 40:52
  trail
• 40:53
  or
• 40:53
  something
• 40:53
  like
• 40:53
  that,
• 40:54
  but
• 40:54
  the
• 40:54
  derogatory
• 40:55
  comments
• 40:56
  and
• 40:56
  the
• 40:56
  negative
• 40:56
  things
• 40:57
  that
• 40:57
  I've
• 40:57
  heard
• 40:57
  said
• 40:58
  while
• 40:58
  on
• 40:58
  the
• 40:58
  trail
• 40:59
  with
• 40:59
  some
• 40:59
  of
• 40:59
  my
• 40:59
  friends
• 41:00
  of
• 41:00
  color,
• 41:00
  it's
• 41:01
  bullshit
• 41:01
  that
• 41:01
  nobody
• 41:01
  should
• 41:02
  have
• 41:02
  to
• 41:02
  deal
• 41:02
  with.
• 41:02
  And
• 41:03
  that's
• 41:03
  unfortunate.
• 41:03
  And
• 41:03
  so
• 41:04
  the
• 41:04
  choice
• 41:04
  is
• 41:04
  then,
• 41:05
  Hey,
• 41:05
  I
• 41:05
  can
• 41:06
  go
• 41:06
  and
• 41:06
  I
• 41:06
  can
• 41:06
  put
• 41:06
  myself
• 41:07
  in
• 41:07
  an
• 41:07
  uncomfortable
• 41:07
  situation
• 41:08
  and
• 41:08
  get
• 41:08
  treated
• 41:09
  like
• 41:09
  crap
• 41:09
  on
• 41:09
  top
• 41:10
  of
• 41:10
  it.
• 41:10
  Or
• 41:10
  I
• 41:11
  can
• 41:11
  stay
• 41:11
  in
• 41:12
  a
• 41:12
  city
• 41:12
  with
• 41:13
  people
• 41:13
  that
• 41:13
  I
• 41:13
  know
• 41:13
  and
• 41:14
  do
• 41:14
  the
• 41:14
  things
• 41:15
  that
• 41:15
  I'm
• 41:15
  comfortable
• 41:15
  with.
• 41:16
  And
• 41:16
  so
• 41:16
  it
• 41:17
  comes
• 41:17
  down
• 41:17
  to
• 41:18
  organizations
• 41:19
  and
• 41:19
  companies
• 41:19
  like,
• 41:19
  out
• 41:20
  of
• 41:20
  there
• 41:20
  that
• 41:20
  are
• 41:20
  willing
• 41:21
  to
• 41:21
  create
• 41:21
  a
• 41:21
  safe
• 41:22
  space
• 41:22
  and
• 41:22
  then
• 41:22
  take
• 41:23
  a
• 41:23
  group
• 41:23
  of
• 41:23
  people
• 41:24
  out
• 41:24
  to
• 41:25
  experience
• 41:25
  a
• 41:25
  thing
• 41:25
  together
• 41:26
  where
• 41:26
  the
• 41:26
  entire
• 41:27
  experience
• 41:28
  is
• 41:28
  curated.
• 41:29
  And
• 41:29
  if
• 41:29
  something
• 41:29
  goes
• 41:30
  wrong,
• 41:30
  there's
• 41:30
  an
• 41:31
  entire
• 41:31
  support
• 41:31
  system
• 41:32
  to
• 41:32
  be
• 41:32
  able
• 41:32
  to
• 41:32
  support
• 41:33
  whatever
• 41:33
  it
• 41:34
  is
• 41:34
  that
• 41:34
  went
• 41:34
  wrong
• 41:35
  to
• 41:35
  really
• 41:36
  handle
• 41:36
  the
• 41:36
  situation.
• 41:37
  An
• 41:37
  arguably
• 41:37
  that
• 41:37
  fosters
• 41:38
  confidence
• 41:38
  in
• 41:39
  those
• 41:39
  potentially
• 41:40
  marginalized
• 41:40
  groups.
• 41:41
  I
• 41:41
  know,
• 41:42
  I
• 41:42
  don't
• 41:42
  want
• 41:42
  to
• 41:43
  compare
• 41:43
  my
• 41:43
  scenario,
• 41:44
  but
• 41:44
  I
• 41:44
  will
• 41:44
  say
• 41:45
  being
• 41:45
  a
• 41:45
  single
• 41:45
  mom,
• 41:46
  taking
• 41:46
  my
• 41:46
  kids
• 41:46
  out
• 41:47
  camping
• 41:47
  is
• 41:47
  incredibly
• 41:48
  daunting.
• 41:48
  But
• 41:49
  that's
• 41:49
  exactly
• 41:49
  what
• 41:50
  it
• 41:50
  is,
• 41:50
  Cara.
• 41:51
  Yeah.
• 41:51
  But
• 41:52
  doing
• 41:52
  so
• 41:53
  in
• 41:53
  w
• 41:53
  in
• 41:54
  a
• 41:54
  group
• 41:54
  of
• 41:55
  other
• 41:55
  single
• 41:55
  moms
• 41:56
  and
• 41:56
  all
• 41:56
  of
• 41:56
  our
• 41:56
  kids
• 41:56
  are
• 41:56
  together
• 41:57
  and
• 41:57
  we
• 41:57
  all
• 41:57
  help
• 41:58
  each
• 41:58
  other
• 41:58
  back
• 41:58
  the
• 41:58
  armies
• 41:59
  in
• 41:59
  and
• 41:59
  all
• 41:59
  those
• 41:59
  things.
• 42:00
  That's
• 42:00
  far
• 42:01
  more
• 42:01
  comfortable
• 42:01
  for
• 42:01
  me
• 42:02
  and,
• 42:02
  I
• 42:02
  think
• 42:02
  that's
• 42:02
  just
• 42:03
  human
• 42:04
  nature.
• 42:04
  And
• 42:04
  it
• 42:04
  does
• 42:05
  inspire
• 42:05
  me
• 42:05
  to,
• 42:06
  the
• 42:06
  more
• 42:06
  comfortable
• 42:06
  I
• 42:06
  get
• 42:07
  the
• 42:07
  more
• 42:07
  often
• 42:08
  I
• 42:08
  want
• 42:08
  to
• 42:08
  do
• 42:09
  it
• 42:09
  in
• 42:09
  the
• 42:09
  more
• 42:10
  willing
• 42:10
  I
• 42:10
  am
• 42:10
  to
• 42:10
  step
• 42:11
  outside
• 42:11
  of
• 42:11
  my
• 42:11
  comfort
• 42:12
  zone
• 42:12
  and
• 42:12
  try
• 42:12
  something
• 42:13
  newer
• 42:13
  and
• 42:14
  also
• 42:15
  with.
• 42:15
  Less
• 42:16
  need
• 42:16
  for
• 42:16
  that
• 42:16
  support
• 42:17
  system.
• 42:17
  I
• 42:17
  can
• 42:17
  start
• 42:18
  to
• 42:18
  venture
• 42:18
  out
• 42:18
  and
• 42:18
  do
• 42:18
  more
• 42:19
  of
• 42:19
  those
• 42:19
  things.
• 42:19
  Independently,
• 42:20
  the
• 42:20
  more
• 42:21
  confident
• 42:21
  I
• 42:21
  get.
• 42:21
  I
• 42:22
  think
• 42:22
  all
• 42:22
  of
• 42:22
  those
• 42:22
  things
• 42:23
  are
• 42:23
  our
• 42:24
  steps,
• 42:24
  to,
• 42:25
  to
• 42:25
  getting
• 42:26
  there
• 42:26
  again,
• 42:26
  all
• 42:27
  the
• 42:27
  dominoes,
• 42:27
  all
• 42:27
  the
• 42:27
  things
• 42:28
  are
• 42:28
  contributing
• 42:29
  here
• 42:29
  for
• 42:29
  fall
• 42:30
  at
• 42:30
  one
• 42:30
  and
• 42:31
  huge.
• 42:32
  And
• 42:32
  I
• 42:32
  think
• 42:32
  what
• 42:33
  Earl
• 42:33
  mentioned
• 42:33
  earlier
• 42:34
  as
• 42:34
  well,
• 42:34
  in
• 42:34
  terms
• 42:35
  of,
• 42:36
  being
• 42:36
  able
• 42:37
  to
• 42:37
  just
• 42:38
  educate
• 42:38
  people,
• 42:39
  that
• 42:39
  is
• 42:40
  a
• 42:40
  huge
• 42:40
  part
• 42:40
  of
• 42:41
  it.
• 42:41
  And.
• 42:41
  We
• 42:41
  have
• 42:41
  to
• 42:41
  start,
• 42:42
  we
• 42:42
  have
• 42:42
  to
• 42:42
  start
• 42:43
  somewhere.
• 42:44
  And
• 42:44
  building
• 42:44
  confidence
• 42:45
  is
• 42:45
  huge.
• 42:46
  Being
• 42:46
  able
• 42:46
  to
• 42:47
  provide
• 42:47
  people
• 42:47
  the
• 42:47
  opportunity
• 42:48
  to
• 42:48
  try
• 42:49
  and
• 42:49
  experiment
• 42:49
  and
• 42:49
  do
• 42:50
  new
• 42:50
  things.
• 42:50
  And
• 42:51
  it's
• 42:51
  not
• 42:51
  just
• 42:51
  in
• 42:51
  the
• 42:51
  outdoors.
• 42:52
  It's
• 42:52
  in
• 42:52
  general,
• 42:53
  if,
• 42:53
  and
• 42:54
  to
• 42:54
  Earl's
• 42:55
  point,
• 42:55
  even
• 42:55
  earlier
• 42:56
  at
• 42:56
  the
• 42:56
  beginning
• 42:56
  of
• 42:56
  the
• 42:56
  conversation,
• 42:57
  just
• 42:57
  the
• 42:57
  historical
• 42:58
  aspects
• 42:59
  of
• 42:59
  it
• 42:59
  that
• 42:59
  most
• 42:59
  people
• 43:00
  don't
• 43:00
  understand.
• 43:01
  There's
• 43:01
  a
• 43:01
  million
• 43:02
  reasons
• 43:02
  why
• 43:03
  a
• 43:03
  lot
• 43:03
  of
• 43:03
  my
• 43:03
  friends
• 43:04
  who
• 43:04
  are
• 43:04
  folks
• 43:04
  of
• 43:04
  color
• 43:05
  do
• 43:05
  not
• 43:05
  want
• 43:05
  to
• 43:05
  go
• 43:06
  out
• 43:06
  and
• 43:06
  they
• 43:06
  do
• 43:06
  not
• 43:07
  want
• 43:07
  to
• 43:07
  camp,
• 43:07
  especially
• 43:08
  from
• 43:08
  an
• 43:08
  immigration
• 43:09
  standpoint.
• 43:10
  I
• 43:10
  have
• 43:10
  a
• 43:10
  couple
• 43:10
  of
• 43:10
  friends
• 43:11
  that
• 43:11
  I've
• 43:11
  organized
• 43:11
  trips
• 43:11
  with
• 43:12
  that
• 43:12
  their
• 43:12
  parents
• 43:12
  have
• 43:13
  been
• 43:13
  mortified,
• 43:14
  that
• 43:14
  they
• 43:14
  came
• 43:14
  to
• 43:15
  this
• 43:15
  country
• 43:15
  to
• 43:16
  build
• 43:16
  a
• 43:16
  better
• 43:16
  lives
• 43:17
  for
• 43:17
  themselves.
• 43:17
  They
• 43:17
  came
• 43:18
  from
• 43:18
  absolutely
• 43:19
  nothing.
• 43:19
  They
• 43:19
  had
• 43:19
  no
• 43:19
  place
• 43:20
  to
• 43:20
  live
• 43:20
  and
• 43:20
  they
• 43:20
  lived
• 43:21
  outdoors
• 43:21
  and
• 43:22
  that
• 43:22
  was
• 43:22
  not
• 43:22
  success
• 43:23
  for
• 43:23
  them.
• 43:23
  Then
• 43:24
  their
• 43:24
  children
• 43:24
  are
• 43:24
  coming
• 43:25
  here
• 43:25
  and
• 43:25
  they're
• 43:25
  going
• 43:25
  on
• 43:26
  a
• 43:26
  camping
• 43:26
  trip
• 43:26
  and
• 43:26
  they're
• 43:26
  paying.
• 43:27
  That
• 43:28
  blows
• 43:28
  their
• 43:28
  mind.
• 43:28
  And
• 43:28
  so
• 43:29
  there's
• 43:29
  a
• 43:29
  lot
• 43:29
  of
• 43:29
  familial
• 43:30
  pressures
• 43:30
  as
• 43:31
  well,
• 43:31
  and
• 43:31
  cultural
• 43:32
  discrepancies
• 43:33
  between
• 43:33
  here
• 43:34
  and
• 43:34
  everywhere
• 43:34
  else
• 43:35
  in
• 43:35
  the
• 43:35
  world
• 43:35
  that
• 43:36
  people
• 43:36
  are
• 43:36
  not
• 43:37
  aware
• 43:37
  of
• 43:37
  that
• 43:37
  also
• 43:38
  create
• 43:38
  the
• 43:38
  pressures
• 43:39
  that
• 43:39
  are
• 43:39
  creating
• 43:39
  the
• 43:39
  environment
• 43:40
  that
• 43:40
  we're
• 43:40
  in
• 43:40
  currently.
• 43:46
  So
• 43:46
  let
• 43:46
  me
• 43:47
  ask
• 43:47
  something
• 43:47
  that
• 43:48
  you
• 43:48
  guys
• 43:48
  can
• 43:49
  take
• 43:49
  wherever
• 43:49
  you
• 43:49
  want,
• 43:50
  and
• 43:50
  it
• 43:50
  may
• 43:50
  or
• 43:50
  may
• 43:50
  not
• 43:51
  be
• 43:51
  controversial,
• 43:51
  but
• 43:51
  we've
• 43:51
  heard
• 43:52
  a
• 43:52
  lot
• 43:52
  about
• 43:52
  education,
• 43:53
  and
• 43:53
  this
• 43:53
  needs
• 43:53
  to
• 43:53
  be
• 43:54
  done
• 43:55
  from
• 43:55
  a
• 43:56
  everyone.
• 43:56
  My
• 43:57
  flight
• 43:57
  is
• 43:57
  going
• 43:57
  to
• 43:57
  be
• 44:01
  no
• 44:01
  you're
• 44:02
  okay.
• 44:02
  Earl,
• 44:02
  do
• 44:02
  you
• 44:02
  need
• 44:02
  to
• 44:02
  go
• 44:02
  for
• 44:03
  your
• 44:03
  flight?
• 44:05
  No,
• 44:05
  go
• 44:05
  ahead
• 44:06
  and
• 44:06
  state
• 44:06
  your
• 44:06
  question.
• 44:06
  I'm
• 44:06
  sorry.
• 44:07
  I
• 44:07
  think
• 44:07
  I
• 44:07
  have
• 44:07
  a
• 44:08
  just
• 44:08
  a
• 44:08
  lag
• 44:08
  time
• 44:09
  in
• 44:09
  the
• 44:09
  conversation
• 44:09
  because
• 44:10
  of
• 44:10
  my
• 44:10
  service.
• 44:11
  I
• 44:11
  apologize.
• 44:12
  No,
• 44:12
  that's
• 44:12
  okay.
• 44:13
  No
• 44:13
  problem
• 44:13
  at
• 44:13
  all.
• 44:14
  So
• 44:14
  my
• 44:14
  question
• 44:14
  was
• 44:15
  just
• 44:15
  we've
• 44:15
  heard
• 44:15
  a
• 44:15
  lot
• 44:16
  about
• 44:16
  education
• 44:16
  and
• 44:17
  the
• 44:17
  need
• 44:17
  for
• 44:17
  this.
• 44:18
  The
• 44:18
  entire
• 44:19
  conversation,
• 44:19
  really?
• 44:20
  My
• 44:20
  question
• 44:20
  each
• 44:20
  one
• 44:20
  of
• 44:21
  you
• 44:21
  is
• 44:21
  what
• 44:21
  is
• 44:21
  the
• 44:22
  responsibility
• 44:22
  for
• 44:23
  that
• 44:23
  education
• 44:23
  in
• 44:24
  your
• 44:24
  eyes,
• 44:24
  your
• 44:24
  opinion,
• 44:25
  your
• 44:25
  experience,
• 44:26
  your
• 44:26
  data,
• 44:27
  whatever
• 44:27
  it
• 44:27
  is
• 44:28
  from
• 44:28
  a
• 44:29
  consumer
• 44:29
  standpoint,
• 44:30
  from
• 44:30
  a
• 44:30
  campground
• 44:31
  owner
• 44:31
  standpoint,
• 44:31
  from
• 44:32
  an
• 44:32
  association
• 44:32
  or
• 44:33
  company
• 44:33
  standpoint
• 44:34
  or
• 44:34
  sponsorship
• 44:35
  or
• 44:35
  whatever,
• 44:35
  how
• 44:36
  does
• 44:36
  that
• 44:36
  balance
• 44:36
  in
• 44:36
  your
• 44:37
  eyes?
• 44:37
  What
• 44:37
  is
• 44:37
  the
• 44:37
  responsibility
• 44:38
  of
• 44:39
  the
• 44:39
  different
• 44:39
  organizations,
• 44:40
  associations,
• 44:40
  people,
• 44:41
  consumers
• 44:41
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• 44:42
  either
• 44:43
  go
• 44:43
  out
• 44:43
  and
• 44:44
  seek
• 44:44
  that
• 44:44
  education
• 44:45
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• 44:45
  to
• 44:46
  find
• 44:47
  it
• 44:47
  through
• 44:48
  advertising
• 44:49
  or
• 44:49
  websites
• 44:50
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• 44:50
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• 44:50
  work
• 44:50
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• 44:50
  Earl
• 44:51
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• 44:51
  doing
• 44:51
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• 44:51
  things
• 44:51
  like
• 44:52
  that.
• 44:54
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• 44:54
  you
• 44:54
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• 44:54
  don't
• 44:54
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• 44:54
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• 44:55
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• 44:55
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• 44:55
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• 44:56
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• 44:56
  going
• 44:56
  to,
• 44:56
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• 44:56
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• 44:56
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• 44:56
  jump
• 44:57
  off
• 44:57
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• 44:57
  call
• 44:57
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• 44:57
  you
• 44:57
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• 44:57
  go
• 44:57
  ahead.
• 44:58
  I'm
• 44:58
  sorry.
• 44:59
  Go
• 44:59
  ahead
• 44:59
  bro.
• 45:01
  Oh,
• 45:01
  I
• 45:01
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• 45:01
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• 45:01
  to
• 45:01
  say
• 45:01
  it
• 45:01
  is,
• 45:02
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• 45:02
  want
• 45:03
  guests
• 45:03
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• 45:04
  come
• 45:04
  on
• 45:04
  our
• 45:04
  trips
• 45:05
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• 45:05
  our
• 45:06
  trips
• 45:06
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• 45:06
  not
• 45:06
  all
• 45:07
  free.
• 45:07
  Some
• 45:07
  of
• 45:07
  them
• 45:07
  are,
• 45:08
  so
• 45:08
  I
• 45:08
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• 45:09
  it
• 45:09
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• 45:09
  my.
• 45:10
  To
• 45:10
  invest
• 45:10
  in
• 45:11
  content
• 45:11
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• 45:11
  demonstrates
• 45:12
  what
• 45:13
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• 45:13
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• 45:13
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• 45:14
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• 45:14
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• 45:14
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• 45:14
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• 45:15
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• 45:15
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• 45:15
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• 45:15
  whole,
• 45:16
  this
• 45:16
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• 45:16
  a
• 45:16
  review
• 45:17
  or
• 45:17
  rating.
• 45:18
  You
• 45:18
  can
• 45:18
  see
• 45:18
  videos
• 45:18
  on
• 45:19
  our
• 45:19
  website
• 45:19
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• 45:19
  shows
• 45:19
  you
• 45:20
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• 45:20
  you're
• 45:20
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• 45:20
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• 45:20
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• 45:20
  into
• 45:21
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• 45:21
  Content
• 45:22
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• 45:22
  a
• 45:22
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• 45:23
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• 45:23
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• 45:24
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• 45:24
  these
• 45:25
  guests,
• 45:25
  who
• 45:26
  for
• 45:26
  whatever
• 45:26
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• 45:26
  cultural
• 45:27
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• 45:27
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• 45:27
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• 45:27
  safety,
• 45:28
  whatever
• 45:28
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• 45:28
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• 45:29
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• 45:29
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• 45:29
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• 45:29
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• 45:29
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• 45:30
  out,
• 45:30
  they
• 45:30
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• 45:30
  now
• 45:30
  convinced,
• 45:31
  you
• 45:31
  know
• 45:31
  what?
• 45:31
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• 45:31
  can
• 45:31
  do
• 45:32
  this
• 45:32
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• 45:32
  I
• 45:32
  can
• 45:32
  come
• 45:32
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• 45:33
  What
• 45:33
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• 45:33
  love
• 45:33
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• 45:33
  be
• 45:34
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• 45:34
  What
• 45:34
  I
• 45:34
  look
• 45:34
  to
• 45:34
  see
• 45:35
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• 45:35
  companies
• 45:36
  do
• 45:36
  the
• 45:36
  same,
• 45:37
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• 45:37
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• 45:38
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• 45:38
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• 45:38
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• 45:38
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• 45:38
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• 45:38
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• 45:39
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• 45:39
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• 45:40
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• 45:41
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• 45:41
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• 45:41
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• 45:41
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• 45:42
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• 45:42
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• 45:42
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• 45:42
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• 45:42
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• 45:43
  Now,
• 45:43
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• 45:43
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• 45:43
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• 45:43
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• 45:44
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• 45:44
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• 45:45
  videos
• 45:45
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• 45:45
  see,
• 45:46
  from
• 45:46
  retailers
• 45:46
  or
• 45:47
  manufacturers
• 45:48
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• 45:48
  just
• 45:48
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• 45:48
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• 45:49
  product,
• 45:49
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• 45:50
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• 45:50
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• 45:51
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• 45:51
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• 45:51
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• 45:51
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• 45:52
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• 45:52
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• 45:53
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• 45:53
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• 45:54
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• 45:54
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• 45:54
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• 45:55
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• 45:55
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• 45:55
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• 45:56
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• 45:56
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• 45:56
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• 45:56
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• 45:56
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• 45:57
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• 45:58
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• 45:58
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• 45:58
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• 45:58
  Mexican
• 45:59
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• 45:59
  Cuban
• 46:00
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• 46:00
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• 46:00
  Dominican
• 46:00
  immigrant
• 46:01
  who
• 46:01
  comes
• 46:01
  to
• 46:01
  this
• 46:01
  country?
• 46:01
  Appreciate
• 46:02
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• 46:02
  rents
• 46:02
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• 46:03
  value
• 46:03
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• 46:04
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• 46:04
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• 46:05
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• 46:05
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• 46:05
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• 46:05
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• 46:05
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• 46:06
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• 46:06
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• 46:06
  introduced.
• 46:07
  We
• 46:07
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• 46:07
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• 46:08
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• 46:08
  learn
• 46:08
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• 46:08
  value
• 46:08
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• 46:09
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• 46:09
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• 46:09
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• 46:10
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• 46:10
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• 46:10
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• 46:10
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• 46:11
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• 46:11
  their
• 46:11
  countries.
• 46:11
  So
• 46:12
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• 46:12
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• 46:12
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• 46:12
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• 46:12
  trying
• 46:13
  to
• 46:13
  do,
• 46:13
  private
• 46:13
  companies
• 46:14
  should
• 46:14
  be
• 46:14
  doing
• 46:15
  is
• 46:15
  showing
• 46:15
  the
• 46:15
  value
• 46:16
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• 46:16
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• 46:16
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• 46:17
  those
• 46:17
  products
• 46:17
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• 46:18
  an
• 46:18
  a
• 46:18
  for
• 46:18
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• 46:19
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• 46:19
  outdoor
• 46:19
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• 46:20
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• 46:21
  creating
• 46:21
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• 46:21
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• 46:21
  more
• 46:21
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• 46:22
  So
• 46:22
  the
• 46:22
  education
• 46:23
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• 46:23
  I
• 46:23
  agree
• 46:24
  a
• 46:24
  hundred
• 46:24
  percent.
• 46:24
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• 46:24
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• 46:25
  think
• 46:25
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• 46:25
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• 46:25
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• 46:25
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• 46:25
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• 46:25
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• 46:26
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  It
• 46:26
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• 46:26
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• 46:27
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• 46:27
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• 46:27
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• 46:27
  to
• 46:27
  put
• 46:27
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• 46:27
  onus
• 46:28
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• 46:28
  the
• 46:28
  person
• 46:29
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• 46:29
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• 46:29
  trying
• 46:29
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• 46:29
  sell
• 46:29
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• 46:30
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• 46:30
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• 46:30
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• 46:30
  one
• 46:30
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• 46:31
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• 46:31
  out
• 46:31
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• 46:31
  education.
• 46:32
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• 46:32
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• 46:32
  to
• 46:32
  force
• 46:33
  that
• 46:33
  education
• 46:34
  right
• 46:34
  down
• 46:34
  their
• 46:34
  throats.
• 46:35
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• 46:35
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• 46:35
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• 46:36
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• 46:36
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• 46:36
  me
• 46:36
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• 46:36
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• 46:36
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• 46:37
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• 46:37
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• 46:37
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• 46:37
  you
• 46:38
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• 46:38
  they
• 46:38
  finally
• 46:39
  say,
• 46:39
  you
• 46:39
  know
• 46:39
  what?
• 46:39
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• 46:40
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• 46:40
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• 46:40
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• 46:40
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• 46:40
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• 46:41
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• 46:41
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• 46:41
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• 46:41
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• 46:41
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• 46:41
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• 46:41
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• 46:42
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• 46:42
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• 46:42
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• 46:42
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• 46:42
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• 46:42
  feel
• 46:42
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• 46:43
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• 46:49
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• 46:49
  Al,
• 46:50
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• 46:50
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• 46:50
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• 46:50
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• 46:50
  you
• 46:50
  guys
• 46:50
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• 46:51
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• 46:51
  me
• 46:51
  in
• 46:51
  that,
• 46:51
  but
• 46:52
  I
• 46:52
  didn't
• 46:52
  hear
• 46:53
  you
• 46:53
  at
• 46:53
  all.
• 46:53
  So
• 46:53
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• 46:54
  going
• 46:54
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• 46:54
  have
• 46:54
  to,
• 46:54
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• 46:54
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• 46:54
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• 46:54
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• 46:55
  email
• 46:55
  me
• 46:55
  your.
• 46:56
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• 46:57
  Confirm
• 46:57
  your
• 46:58
  contact
• 46:58
  information
• 46:59
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• 46:59
  I
• 46:59
  want
• 46:59
  to
• 46:59
  hear
• 47:00
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• 47:00
  It
• 47:00
  sounded
• 47:00
  like
• 47:00
  you
• 47:00
  was
• 47:00
  giving
• 47:00
  some
• 47:00
  good
• 47:01
  information
• 47:01
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• 47:02
  I
• 47:02
  couldn't
• 47:02
  hear
• 47:02
  any
• 47:02
  of
• 47:03
  it.
• 47:03
  And
• 47:03
  I
• 47:03
  don't
• 47:03
  know
• 47:03
  if
• 47:03
  you
• 47:03
  guys
• 47:04
  can
• 47:04
  hear
• 47:04
  me
• 47:04
  or
• 47:04
  not,
• 47:05
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• 47:05
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• 47:05
  didn't
• 47:05
  hear
• 47:05
  any
• 47:06
  of
• 47:06
  it.
• 47:06
  And
• 47:06
  I
• 47:06
  apologize.
• 47:07
  But
• 47:07
  I
• 47:07
  want
• 47:07
  to
• 47:07
  go
• 47:08
  ahead.
• 47:08
  If
• 47:08
  you
• 47:08
  don't
• 47:08
  guys
• 47:08
  don't
• 47:09
  mind,
• 47:09
  I'll
• 47:09
  go
• 47:09
  ahead
• 47:09
  and
• 47:09
  state
• 47:10
  my
• 47:10
  last
• 47:10
  statements
• 47:10
  here
• 47:11
  as
• 47:11
  I'm
• 47:11
  going
• 47:11
  to
• 47:11
  go
• 47:11
  catch
• 47:12
  a
• 47:12
  flight
• 47:12
  here.
• 47:12
  I'm
• 47:12
  not
• 47:13
  sure
• 47:13
  if
• 47:13
  you
• 47:13
  can
• 47:13
  hear
• 47:13
  me
• 47:13
  now,
• 47:13
  if
• 47:13
  you
• 47:14
  can
• 47:14
  hear
• 47:14
  me
• 47:14
  shake
• 47:14
  your
• 47:14
  head.
• 47:15
  Yes,
• 47:15
  we
• 47:15
  can
• 47:15
  or
• 47:15
  not,
• 47:16
  but
• 47:16
  I
• 47:16
  want
• 47:16
  to
• 47:16
  just
• 47:16
  say
• 47:17
  this
• 47:17
  to
• 47:17
  folks
• 47:17
  and
• 47:17
  I
• 47:17
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• 47:18
  in
• 47:18
  my
• 47:18
  conversation
• 47:19
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• 47:19
  this,
• 47:20
  I
• 47:20
  tell
• 47:20
  folks,
• 47:20
  listen,
• 47:20
  I'm
• 47:21
  a
• 47:21
  good
• 47:21
  times
• 47:21
  kid.
• 47:21
  If
• 47:22
  you
• 47:22
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• 47:22
  reference
• 47:22
  that
• 47:22
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• 47:23
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• 47:23
  sit-com
• 47:23
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• 47:24
  a
• 47:24
  good
• 47:24
  times
• 47:24
  kid
• 47:24
  living
• 47:25
  Huxtable
• 47:25
  lifestyle.
• 47:26
  That
• 47:26
  means
• 47:26
  I
• 47:26
  understand
• 47:27
  the
• 47:27
  struggle
• 47:27
  of
• 47:27
  money.
• 47:28
  I
• 47:28
  understand
• 47:28
  the
• 47:28
  struggle
• 47:29
  of
• 47:29
  classism
• 47:30
  and
• 47:30
  the
• 47:30
  strong,
• 47:30
  the
• 47:30
  struggle
• 47:31
  of
• 47:31
  not
• 47:31
  having
• 47:32
  places
• 47:32
  to
• 47:32
  go
• 47:32
  in
• 47:32
  the
• 47:33
  outdoors.
• 47:33
  I
• 47:33
  was
• 47:34
  raised
• 47:34
  by
• 47:34
  a
• 47:34
  single
• 47:34
  mother
• 47:35
  who
• 47:35
  didn't
• 47:35
  know
• 47:35
  what
• 47:35
  to
• 47:35
  do
• 47:35
  in
• 47:35
  the
• 47:36
  outdoors.
• 47:36
  That's
• 47:36
  one
• 47:36
  of
• 47:36
  the
• 47:36
  reason
• 47:37
  why
• 47:37
  I
• 47:37
  didn't
• 47:37
  know
• 47:37
  what
• 47:37
  to
• 47:37
  do
• 47:37
  in
• 47:37
  the
• 47:37
  outdoors.
• 47:38
  As
• 47:38
  I
• 47:38
  stand
• 47:39
  down
• 47:39
  in
• 47:39
  my
• 47:39
  particular
• 47:40
  space
• 47:40
  as
• 47:41
  a
• 47:41
  45
• 47:41
  year
• 47:42
  old
• 47:42
  man
• 47:42
  I
• 47:42
  have
• 47:42
  a
• 47:42
  legacy
• 47:43
  and
• 47:43
  my
• 47:44
  legacy
• 47:44
  is
• 47:44
  not
• 47:44
  to
• 47:44
  be.
• 47:45
  For
• 47:45
  another
• 47:45
  company
• 47:46
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• 47:46
  make
• 47:46
  a
• 47:46
  ton
• 47:46
  of
• 47:46
  money,
• 47:47
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• 47:47
  has
• 47:47
  been
• 47:48
  done
• 47:48
  in
• 47:48
  the
• 47:48
  past.
• 47:49
  My
• 47:49
  legacy
• 47:50
  is
• 47:50
  to
• 47:50
  educate,
• 47:52
  remove
• 47:52
  fear,
• 47:53
  and
• 47:53
  invite
• 47:54
  more
• 47:54
  blind
• 47:54
  folks
• 47:54
  to
• 47:54
  camp
• 47:55
  and
• 47:55
  enjoy
• 47:56
  the
• 47:56
  outdoor
• 47:56
  lifestyle
• 47:57
  with
• 47:57
  any
• 47:57
  and
• 47:57
  everyone
• 47:58
  and
• 47:58
  doing
• 47:59
  that.
• 47:59
  I
• 47:59
  want
• 47:59
  to
• 47:59
  make
• 48:00
  sure
• 48:00
  that
• 48:00
  everyone
• 48:01
  around
• 48:01
  us,
• 48:01
  particularly
• 48:02
  campgrounds,
• 48:02
  particularly
• 48:03
  RV
• 48:03
  industry,
• 48:03
  the
• 48:03
  outdoor
• 48:04
  industry,
• 48:04
  that
• 48:04
  folks
• 48:05
  are
• 48:05
  educated
• 48:06
  on
• 48:06
  while
• 48:06
  we're
• 48:06
  not
• 48:07
  in
• 48:07
  the
• 48:07
  outdoors
• 48:07
  because.
• 48:09
  Can't
• 48:09
  do
• 48:09
  this
• 48:10
  alone
• 48:10
  and
• 48:10
  the
• 48:11
  folks
• 48:11
  on
• 48:11
  this
• 48:11
  call,
• 48:12
  we
• 48:12
  can't
• 48:12
  do
• 48:12
  this
• 48:12
  alone.
• 48:13
  So
• 48:13
  why
• 48:13
  not
• 48:13
  just
• 48:13
  get
• 48:14
  everyone
• 48:14
  educated
• 48:15
  about
• 48:15
  what's
• 48:15
  going
• 48:16
  on
• 48:16
  and
• 48:16
  what
• 48:16
  we
• 48:16
  feel
• 48:17
  and
• 48:17
  what
• 48:17
  we're
• 48:17
  going
• 48:18
  through,
• 48:18
  and
• 48:18
  then
• 48:19
  let
• 48:19
  those
• 48:19
  folks
• 48:19
  jump
• 48:20
  in
• 48:20
  the
• 48:20
  boat
• 48:20
  and
• 48:20
  start
• 48:20
  rowing
• 48:21
  as
• 48:21
  well.
• 48:21
  So
• 48:22
  we
• 48:22
  all
• 48:22
  could
• 48:22
  be
• 48:22
  doing
• 48:23
  this
• 48:23
  together.
• 48:24
  And
• 48:24
  when
• 48:24
  we
• 48:24
  all
• 48:25
  do
• 48:25
  this
• 48:25
  together,
• 48:25
  what
• 48:25
  we're
• 48:25
  going
• 48:26
  to
• 48:26
  find
• 48:26
  is
• 48:27
  we're
• 48:27
  going
• 48:27
  to
• 48:27
  find
• 48:27
  that
• 48:27
  we
• 48:28
  were
• 48:28
  going
• 48:28
  to
• 48:28
  get
• 48:28
  in
• 48:29
  these
• 48:29
  spaces
• 48:29
  and
• 48:29
  we're
• 48:29
  going
• 48:30
  to
• 48:30
  find
• 48:30
  out
• 48:30
  we've
• 48:30
  been
• 48:31
  we've
• 48:31
  been
• 48:31
  creating.
• 48:31
  Chaos
• 48:32
  for
• 48:32
  one
• 48:32
  another
• 48:32
  in
• 48:33
  different
• 48:33
  spaces
• 48:33
  for
• 48:33
  reasons
• 48:34
  unknown
• 48:35
  or
• 48:35
  necessarily
• 48:36
  that
• 48:36
  are
• 48:36
  maybe
• 48:37
  that,
• 48:37
  that
• 48:37
  are
• 48:37
  known.
• 48:38
  I
• 48:38
  can't,
• 48:38
  I
• 48:39
  tell
• 48:39
  folks
• 48:39
  all
• 48:39
  the
• 48:39
  time,
• 48:40
  I
• 48:40
  can't
• 48:40
  guarantee
• 48:40
  you're
• 48:41
  going
• 48:41
  to
• 48:41
  be
• 48:41
  safe
• 48:41
  at
• 48:41
  the
• 48:41
  camp
• 48:41
  ground.
• 48:42
  I
• 48:42
  can't
• 48:42
  guarantee
• 48:43
  you're
• 48:43
  going
• 48:43
  to
• 48:43
  be
• 48:43
  safe
• 48:44
  in
• 48:44
  in,
• 48:44
  in
• 48:44
  public
• 48:45
  lands.
• 48:45
  But
• 48:45
  what
• 48:45
  I
• 48:45
  can
• 48:46
  do
• 48:46
  is
• 48:47
  we
• 48:47
  can
• 48:47
  get
• 48:47
  you
• 48:47
  educated,
• 48:48
  excuse
• 48:48
  me,
• 48:48
  because
• 48:49
  we
• 48:49
  built
• 48:49
  DEI.
• 48:50
  Our
• 48:50
  DEI
• 48:51
  stands
• 48:51
  for
• 48:51
  digital
• 48:52
  education
• 48:52
  initiative.
• 48:53
  We
• 48:53
  have
• 48:53
  an
• 48:53
  allotment
• 48:54
  almost
• 48:54
  700,
• 48:55
  a
• 48:55
  hundred
• 48:56
  thousand
• 48:56
  dollars
• 48:56
  for
• 48:56
  the
• 48:57
  next
• 48:57
  two
• 48:57
  years,
• 48:58
  creating
• 48:58
  this
• 48:59
  DEI,
• 49:00
  this
• 49:00
  digital
• 49:00
  education
• 49:01
  initiatives
• 49:01
  to
• 49:01
  make
• 49:02
  sure
• 49:02
  that
• 49:02
  folks
• 49:02
  are
• 49:03
  educated
• 49:04
  about
• 49:04
  the
• 49:04
  reasons
• 49:05
  why
• 49:06
  certain
• 49:06
  groups
• 49:06
  have
• 49:06
  not
• 49:07
  been
• 49:07
  in
• 49:07
  the
• 49:07
  outdoors
• 49:08
  and
• 49:08
  then
• 49:08
  educate
• 49:09
  those
• 49:09
  folks
• 49:10
  to
• 49:10
  want
• 49:10
  to
• 49:10
  go
• 49:11
  out
• 49:11
  and
• 49:11
  enjoy
• 49:11
  this.
• 49:12
  So
• 49:12
  the
• 49:12
  bottom
• 49:13
  line
• 49:13
  the
• 49:13
  bottom
• 49:14
  line
• 49:14
  for
• 49:14
  us
• 49:14
  is
• 49:15
  that,
• 49:15
  I
• 49:15
  don't
• 49:15
  want
• 49:15
  to
• 49:15
  go
• 49:16
  bashing
• 49:16
  anyone.
• 49:17
  I
• 49:17
  don't
• 49:17
  want
• 49:17
  folks
• 49:17
  to
• 49:17
  feel
• 49:18
  bad.
• 49:18
  I
• 49:18
  want
• 49:18
  folks
• 49:19
  to
• 49:19
  get
• 49:20
  on
• 49:20
  board
• 49:21
  so
• 49:21
  we
• 49:21
  can
• 49:21
  make
• 49:21
  this.
• 49:23
  And
• 49:23
  the
• 49:23
  more
• 49:23
  we
• 49:23
  make
• 49:24
  it
• 49:24
  better,
• 49:24
  we'll
• 49:25
  make
• 49:25
  it
• 49:25
  better
• 49:25
  for
• 49:25
  my
• 49:25
  children,
• 49:26
  but
• 49:27
  Earl
• 49:27
  B
• 49:27
  hunter
• 49:27
  Jr.
• 49:28
  When
• 49:28
  I
• 49:28
  leave
• 49:29
  this
• 49:29
  earth,
• 49:30
  all
• 49:30
  I
• 49:30
  care
• 49:30
  about
• 49:31
  all
• 49:32
  I
• 49:32
  want
• 49:32
  folks
• 49:32
  to
• 49:32
  remember
• 49:33
  me
• 49:33
  for
• 49:33
  is
• 49:33
  that
• 49:34
  I
• 49:34
  helped
• 49:34
  remove
• 49:34
  fear
• 49:34
  and
• 49:35
  knowledge
• 49:35
  and
• 49:35
  invited
• 49:35
  more
• 49:36
  black
• 49:36
  folks
• 49:36
  to
• 49:36
  camp
• 49:37
  and
• 49:37
  enjoy
• 49:37
  the
• 49:37
  outdoor
• 49:37
  lifestyle
• 49:38
  with
• 49:38
  any.
• 49:38
  And
• 49:38
  everyone
• 49:39
  on
• 49:39
  that
• 49:39
  note,
• 49:39
  I
• 49:39
  hope
• 49:39
  all
• 49:40
  of
• 49:40
  you
• 49:40
  have
• 49:40
  the
• 49:41
  most
• 49:41
  amazing
• 49:41
  day
• 49:42
  of
• 49:42
  your
• 49:42
  life,
• 49:44
  but
• 49:44
  more
• 49:44
  than
• 49:44
  that,
• 49:45
  I
• 49:45
  hope
• 49:45
  tomorrow
• 49:45
  is
• 49:46
  better.
• 49:46
  And
• 49:47
  I'll
• 49:47
  see
• 49:47
  you
• 49:47
  down
• 49:47
  the
• 49:47
  road
• 49:48
  somewhere.
• 49:48
  Al
• 49:49
  and
• 49:49
  the
• 49:49
  rest
• 49:49
  of
• 49:49
  the
• 49:49
  group.
• 49:49
  My
• 49:50
  email
• 49:50
  is
• 49:51
  very
• 49:51
  simple.
• 49:51
  You
• 49:51
  can
• 49:51
  email
• 49:52
  me
• 49:52
  at
• 49:52
  info
• 49:53
  at
• 49:53
  black
• 49:54
  folks.
• 49:54
  Can't
• 49:54
  too.com.
• 49:55
  We
• 49:55
  have
• 49:55
  a
• 49:55
  full
• 49:56
  staff
• 49:56
  and
• 49:56
  we're
• 49:56
  ready
• 49:57
  to
• 49:57
  have
• 49:57
  conversation
• 49:58
  to
• 49:58
  figure
• 49:58
  out
• 49:59
  how
• 49:59
  we
• 49:59
  can
• 49:59
  actually
• 49:59
  get
• 49:59
  to
• 49:59
  the
• 50:00
  next
• 50:00
  level.
• 50:00
  And
• 50:01
  so
• 50:01
  that
• 50:01
  we
• 50:01
  can
• 50:01
  spend
• 50:01
  20%
• 50:02
  of
• 50:02
  our
• 50:02
  time
• 50:02
  on
• 50:02
  the
• 50:02
  issue
• 50:03
  and
• 50:03
  80%
• 50:04
  of
• 50:04
  our
• 50:04
  time
• 50:04
  on
• 50:04
  the
• 50:04
  solution.
• 50:05
  Hope
• 50:06
  you
• 50:06
  guys
• 50:06
  have
• 50:06
  an
• 50:06
  amazing
• 50:06
  day
• 50:07
  and
• 50:07
  we'll
• 50:07
  be
• 50:07
  in
• 50:07
  touch.
• 50:12
  No,
• 50:12
  I,
• 50:13
  I.
• 50:14
  Just
• 50:15
  my
• 50:15
  last
• 50:15
  closing
• 50:16
  thing
• 50:16
  to
• 50:16
  say
• 50:16
  real
• 50:16
  quick.
• 50:16
  I
• 50:17
  don't
• 50:17
  pretend
• 50:18
  to
• 50:18
  have
• 50:19
  all
• 50:19
  of
• 50:19
  the
• 50:19
  data
• 50:20
  that
• 50:20
  Earl
• 50:21
  certainly
• 50:21
  has
• 50:22
  at
• 50:22
  his
• 50:22
  disposal,
• 50:23
  but
• 50:23
  one
• 50:23
  of
• 50:23
  the
• 50:23
  things
• 50:25
  that
• 50:25
  would
• 50:26
  help
• 50:26
  grow
• 50:27
  minority
• 50:27
  audiences
• 50:28
  to
• 50:29
  this
• 50:29
  lifestyle,
• 50:30
  to
• 50:30
  this,
• 50:30
  whether
• 50:30
  it's
• 50:30
  full
• 50:30
  timing
• 50:31
  or
• 50:31
  just
• 50:31
  weekend
• 50:32
  warrior,
• 50:32
  having
• 50:33
  fun,
• 50:33
  whether
• 50:34
  it's
• 50:34
  a
• 50:34
  destination
• 50:35
  campground
• 50:35
  or
• 50:36
  going
• 50:36
  to
• 50:36
  a
• 50:36
  national
• 50:36
  park
• 50:37
  or
• 50:37
  some
• 50:38
  Dollywood,
• 50:38
  right?
• 50:39
  All
• 50:39
  of
• 50:39
  those
• 50:40
  things
• 50:40
  aside,
• 50:42
  having
• 50:42
  people
• 50:43
  in
• 50:43
  their
• 50:43
  own
• 50:43
  community,
• 50:44
  in
• 50:44
  our
• 50:45
  own
• 50:45
  community,
• 50:46
  talking
• 50:47
  about
• 50:47
  it
• 50:47
  creates
• 50:48
  an
• 50:48
  awareness.
• 50:48
  And
• 50:49
  it
• 50:49
  does
• 50:49
  it
• 50:50
  both
• 50:50
  to
• 50:51
  the
• 50:51
  consumer
• 50:52
  as
• 50:52
  well
• 50:52
  as
• 50:53
  to
• 50:53
  the
• 50:54
  businesses
• 50:54
  that
• 50:54
  are
• 50:55
  hoping
• 50:55
  or
• 50:55
  that
• 50:56
  we
• 50:56
  want
• 50:57
  to
• 50:57
  get
• 50:57
  this
• 50:57
  business.
• 50:57
  So
• 50:58
  our
• 50:58
  YouTube
• 50:59
  channel
• 50:59
  full-time.
• 51:00
  We
• 51:01
  started
• 51:01
  off
• 51:01
  reviewing
• 51:02
  gay
• 51:02
  campgrounds.
• 51:03
  And
• 51:03
  a
• 51:03
  lot
• 51:04
  of
• 51:04
  people
• 51:04
  were
• 51:04
  like,
• 51:05
  oh,
• 51:05
  this
• 51:05
  is
• 51:05
  great.
• 51:05
  I'm
• 51:06
  going
• 51:06
  to
• 51:06
  start
• 51:06
  go.
• 51:06
  I'm
• 51:07
  going
• 51:07
  to
• 51:07
  go
• 51:07
  start
• 51:07
  gay
• 51:07
  camping.
• 51:08
  Or
• 51:08
  if
• 51:08
  I've
• 51:08
  gone
• 51:09
  to
• 51:09
  one,
• 51:09
  I'm
• 51:09
  going
• 51:09
  to
• 51:09
  go
• 51:09
  to
• 51:09
  another
• 51:10
  one
• 51:10
  now,
• 51:10
  because
• 51:10
  I
• 51:10
  have
• 51:11
  an
• 51:11
  idea
• 51:11
  of
• 51:11
  what
• 51:11
  it's
• 51:12
  like.
• 51:13
  Meanwhile,
• 51:15
  campground
• 51:15
  owners
• 51:16
  also
• 51:16
  take
• 51:17
  notice.
• 51:17
  And
• 51:17
  so
• 51:18
  they
• 51:18
  ask
• 51:18
  us
• 51:19
  what
• 51:19
  are
• 51:19
  some
• 51:19
  things
• 51:20
  that
• 51:20
  we
• 51:20
  should
• 51:20
  do?
• 51:20
  Watch
• 51:21
  our
• 51:21
  video
• 51:21
  and
• 51:21
  we'll
• 51:21
  tell
• 51:21
  you,
• 51:22
  or
• 51:23
  they.
• 51:24
  In
• 51:25
  advance
• 51:25
  of
• 51:25
  our
• 51:26
  arrival
• 51:26
  for
• 51:26
  better
• 51:27
  or
• 51:27
  for
• 51:27
  worse,
• 51:27
  they
• 51:27
  maybe
• 51:28
  they're
• 51:28
  making
• 51:28
  some
• 51:28
  updates
• 51:29
  or
• 51:29
  some
• 51:29
  upgrades.
• 51:29
  They
• 51:29
  had
• 51:30
  been
• 51:30
  put
• 51:30
  in
• 51:30
  a
• 51:30
  back
• 51:30
  burner
• 51:31
  for
• 51:31
  a
• 51:32
  year
• 51:32
  or
• 51:32
  a
• 51:32
  season
• 51:33
  or
• 51:33
  10
• 51:33
  years
• 51:34
  because
• 51:34
  now
• 51:34
  they
• 51:34
  know
• 51:34
  they're
• 51:35
  about
• 51:35
  to
• 51:35
  be
• 51:35
  reviewed.
• 51:36
  And
• 51:36
  so
• 51:36
  they
• 51:36
  suddenly
• 51:36
  have
• 51:37
  an
• 51:37
  interest
• 51:37
  in
• 51:37
  a
• 51:37
  motivation
• 51:38
  to
• 51:38
  go
• 51:39
  do
• 51:39
  those
• 51:39
  things
• 51:40
  that
• 51:40
  are
• 51:40
  going
• 51:40
  to
• 51:41
  be
• 51:41
  called
• 51:41
  out
• 51:41
  in
• 51:41
  a
• 51:41
  video,
• 51:42
  which
• 51:42
  the
• 51:42
  end
• 51:42
  user's
• 51:42
  going
• 51:43
  to
• 51:43
  see,
• 51:43
  which
• 51:43
  is
• 51:43
  going
• 51:43
  to
• 51:43
  drive
• 51:44
  them
• 51:44
  more
• 51:44
  business.
• 51:45
  And
• 51:45
  at
• 51:45
  the
• 51:45
  same
• 51:45
  time,
• 51:46
  creating
• 51:46
  more
• 51:47
  awareness
• 51:47
  in
• 51:47
  the
• 51:47
  community
• 51:47
  at
• 51:48
  large,
• 51:48
  not
• 51:48
  just
• 51:48
  those
• 51:48
  already
• 51:49
  predisposed
• 51:49
  to
• 51:49
  camping,
• 51:50
  that's
• 51:50
  not
• 51:51
  the
• 51:51
  only
• 51:51
  solution,
• 51:52
  but
• 51:52
  it's
• 51:52
  part
• 51:52
  of
• 51:52
  the
• 51:53
  solution.
• 51:53
  Sponsorships
• 51:54
  obviously
• 51:54
  would
• 51:55
  help
• 51:55
  with
• 51:55
  advertising
• 51:56
  or
• 51:56
  marketing
• 51:57
  campaigns
• 51:57
  that
• 51:57
  show
• 51:57
  people
• 51:58
  of
• 51:58
  a
• 51:58
  given
• 51:58
  demographic
• 51:59
  would
• 51:59
  help
• 51:59
  campground
• 52:00
  owners
• 52:01
  or
• 52:01
  publications
• 52:02
  and
• 52:02
  magazines
• 52:02
  proactively
• 52:04
  doing
• 52:04
  interest
• 52:05
  stories
• 52:05
  or
• 52:05
  some
• 52:06
  kind
• 52:06
  of
• 52:06
  story
• 52:06
  that
• 52:06
  bring
• 52:07
  in
• 52:07
  other
• 52:07
  demographics
• 52:08
  with
• 52:08
  all
• 52:09
  of
• 52:09
  those
• 52:09
  things
• 52:09
  help.
• 52:10
  But
• 52:10
  getting
• 52:10
  excitement,
• 52:11
  getting
• 52:12
  that
• 52:12
  kind
• 52:12
  of
• 52:12
  ground
• 52:13
  level,
• 52:13
  ground
• 52:14
  swelling,
• 52:14
  support,
• 52:15
  and
• 52:15
  excitement
• 52:15
  and
• 52:15
  awareness
• 52:17
  makes
• 52:18
  it
• 52:18
  big.
• 52:22
  Thank
• 52:22
  you,
• 52:22
  Eddie.
• 52:22
  You
• 52:22
  really
• 52:22
  appreciate
• 52:23
  it.
• 52:23
  Lindsay,
• 52:23
  any
• 52:24
  last
• 52:24
  words?
• 52:28
  I
• 52:28
  think
• 52:28
  everyone's
• 52:29
  doing
• 52:29
  a
• 52:29
  great
• 52:29
  job.
• 52:30
  I
• 52:30
  super
• 52:31
  appreciate
• 52:31
  Eddie.
• 52:31
  What
• 52:31
  you
• 52:32
  were
• 52:32
  just
• 52:32
  saying.
• 52:32
  And
• 52:32
  I
• 52:33
  think,
• 52:33
  the
• 52:33
  responsibility
• 52:34
  really
• 52:34
  does
• 52:34
  fall
• 52:35
  on
• 52:35
  all
• 52:35
  of
• 52:35
  us.
• 52:36
  If
• 52:36
  we
• 52:36
  can
• 52:36
  all
• 52:37
  work
• 52:37
  personally
• 52:38
  on
• 52:39
  ourselves
• 52:40
  and
• 52:40
  whatever
• 52:40
  issues
• 52:41
  we
• 52:41
  need
• 52:41
  to
• 52:41
  work
• 52:41
  through
• 52:42
  and
• 52:42
  understand,
• 52:42
  or
• 52:43
  at
• 52:43
  least
• 52:43
  attempt
• 52:44
  to
• 52:44
  understand
• 52:45
  why
• 52:45
  it
• 52:45
  is
• 52:46
  that,
• 52:46
  Eddie
• 52:46
  and
• 52:47
  David,
• 52:47
  you
• 52:47
  guys
• 52:47
  being
• 52:48
  gay,
• 52:48
  I'm
• 52:48
  offended.
• 52:49
  Why?
• 52:49
  Like,
• 52:49
  why
• 52:50
  am
• 52:50
  I
• 52:50
  so
• 52:50
  upset
• 52:50
  about
• 52:51
  that?
• 52:51
  Ugh.
• 52:51
  Maddie,
• 52:52
  I'm
• 52:52
  really
• 52:52
  pissed
• 52:52
  that
• 52:52
  you
• 52:53
  look
• 52:53
  the
• 52:53
  way
• 52:53
  you
• 52:53
  do.
• 52:53
  Like
• 52:53
  why
• 52:54
  does
• 52:54
  that
• 52:54
  actually
• 52:54
  bother
• 52:55
  me
• 52:55
  and
• 52:55
  what's
• 52:55
  going
• 52:56
  on
• 52:56
  there?
• 52:56
  And
• 52:56
  then
• 52:57
  I
• 52:57
  think
• 52:57
  from
• 52:57
  there,
• 52:57
  we're
• 52:57
  able
• 52:58
  to
• 52:58
  better
• 52:59
  ourselves
• 52:59
  and
• 52:59
  create
• 53:00
  the
• 53:00
  space
• 53:00
  to
• 53:00
  create
• 53:01
  better
• 53:01
  opportunities
• 53:02
  for
• 53:02
  each
• 53:02
  other.
• 53:03
  And
• 53:03
  so
• 53:03
  I
• 53:03
  think
• 53:03
  that's
• 53:03
  what
• 53:03
  we
• 53:04
  really
• 53:04
  need
• 53:04
  to
• 53:05
  push.
• 53:05
  And
• 53:05
  honestly,
• 53:06
  I
• 53:06
  have
• 53:06
  a
• 53:06
  daughter
• 53:06
  who's
• 53:06
  in,
• 53:07
  in
• 53:07
  kindergarten
• 53:08
  and
• 53:08
  what
• 53:08
  do
• 53:08
  they
• 53:08
  treat?
• 53:09
  What
• 53:09
  do
• 53:09
  they
• 53:09
  teach
• 53:09
  them?
• 53:10
  Treat
• 53:10
  people
• 53:11
  how
• 53:11
  you
• 53:11
  want
• 53:11
  to
• 53:11
  be
• 53:11
  treated
• 53:12
  at
• 53:12
  the
• 53:12
  end
• 53:12
  of
• 53:13
  the
• 53:13
  day.
• 53:13
  Five-year-olds
• 53:14
  get
• 53:14
  it,
• 53:15
  they
• 53:15
  can
• 53:15
  handle
• 53:16
  it.
• 53:16
  We
• 53:16
  should
• 53:16
  all
• 53:17
  really
• 53:17
  be
• 53:17
  able
• 53:17
  to
• 53:18
  do
• 53:18
  that,
• 53:18
  especially
• 53:18
  at
• 53:18
  this
• 53:19
  point.
• 53:19
  And
• 53:20
  if
• 53:20
  you
• 53:20
  don't
• 53:20
  want
• 53:20
  to
• 53:20
  do
• 53:20
  it,
• 53:21
  I
• 53:21
  know
• 53:21
  that
• 53:21
  this
• 53:22
  a
• 53:22
  little
• 53:22
  bit,
• 53:22
  in
• 53:23
  some
• 53:23
  ways
• 53:23
  has
• 53:23
  a
• 53:23
  little
• 53:23
  bit
• 53:23
  of
• 53:24
  a
• 53:24
  business
• 53:24
  tilt
• 53:25
  in
• 53:25
  terms
• 53:25
  of
• 53:26
  why,
• 53:26
  how
• 53:26
  we
• 53:27
  all
• 53:27
  gathered
• 53:27
  here.
• 53:28
  If
• 53:28
  you
• 53:28
  don't
• 53:28
  want
• 53:28
  to
• 53:28
  be
• 53:29
  a
• 53:29
  good
• 53:29
  person,
• 53:29
  you
• 53:30
  can
• 53:30
  do
• 53:30
  it
• 53:30
  for
• 53:30
  the
• 53:30
  most
• 53:31
  financially
• 53:32
  driven
• 53:32
  purposes
• 53:33
  ever.
• 53:33
  And
• 53:33
  that
• 53:34
  is
• 53:34
  that
• 53:34
  you
• 53:34
  will
• 53:34
  get
• 53:35
  more
• 53:35
  people
• 53:35
  to
• 53:36
  your
• 53:36
  business.
• 53:37
  And
• 53:37
  if
• 53:37
  you
• 53:38
  would
• 53:38
  like
• 53:38
  to
• 53:38
  make
• 53:38
  more
• 53:38
  money,
• 53:39
  make
• 53:39
  your
• 53:39
  business
• 53:40
  more
• 53:40
  diverse
• 53:41
  at
• 53:41
  the
• 53:41
  end
• 53:41
  of
• 53:41
  the
• 53:41
  day,
• 53:41
  even
• 53:42
  if
• 53:42
  you
• 53:42
  don't
• 53:42
  want
• 53:42
  to
• 53:42
  do
• 53:42
  it
• 53:43
  for
• 53:43
  kind
• 53:43
  or
• 53:44
  good-hearted
• 53:44
  reason
• 53:45
  from
• 53:46
  the
• 53:46
  strictly
• 53:46
  capitalistic
• 53:47
  perspective,
• 53:49
  that
• 53:49
  is
• 53:49
  also
• 53:49
  the
• 53:50
  win.
• 53:51
  Your
• 53:51
  ROI
• 53:51
  will
• 53:51
  be
• 53:51
  higher,
• 53:53
  which
• 53:53
  I
• 53:53
  hope
• 53:53
  you
• 53:53
  do
• 53:54
  it
• 53:54
  for
• 53:54
  kind
• 53:54
  reasons,
• 53:55
  but.
• 53:59
  Thank
• 53:59
  you
• 53:59
  Lindsey.
• 53:59
  I
• 53:59
  really
• 54:00
  appreciate
• 54:00
  you
• 54:00
  joining
• 54:00
  us.
• 54:00
  Al
• 54:01
  do
• 54:01
  you
• 54:01
  have
• 54:01
  any
• 54:01
  last
• 54:01
  words?
• 54:04
  Everything
• 54:05
  Lindsey
• 54:05
  just
• 54:05
  said,
• 54:06
  if
• 54:07
  the
• 54:07
  financial
• 54:07
  incentive
• 54:08
  is
• 54:08
  there,
• 54:09
  you
• 54:09
  just
• 54:09
  need
• 54:09
  to
• 54:10
  wake
• 54:10
  up
• 54:10
  and
• 54:10
  do
• 54:11
  it.
• 54:11
  And
• 54:11
  if
• 54:11
  it
• 54:11
  takes
• 54:11
  a
• 54:11
  review
• 54:12
  from
• 54:12
  David
• 54:13
  Nettie
• 54:13
  coming
• 54:13
  to
• 54:13
  your,
• 54:14
  so
• 54:14
  your
• 54:14
  place,
• 54:15
  you
• 54:15
  get
• 54:15
  yourself
• 54:16
  put
• 54:16
  together,
• 54:16
  you
• 54:16
  clean
• 54:17
  you.
• 54:17
  And
• 54:18
  also
• 54:18
  I
• 54:18
  want
• 54:18
  to
• 54:18
  make
• 54:19
  a
• 54:19
  big
• 54:19
  shout
• 54:20
  out
• 54:20
  to,
• 54:21
  to,
• 54:21
  Americans
• 54:22
  with
• 54:22
  disabilities
• 54:23
  Canadians
• 54:23
  with
• 54:23
  disabilities.
• 54:24
  They
• 54:25
  also
• 54:25
  need
• 54:26
  to
• 54:26
  be
• 54:26
  factored
• 54:26
  into
• 54:26
  this
• 54:26
  whole
• 54:27
  conversation.
• 54:27
  It's
• 54:27
  not
• 54:27
  just,
• 54:28
  what
• 54:28
  color
• 54:28
  your
• 54:28
  skin
• 54:29
  is.
• 54:29
  It's
• 54:30
  not
• 54:30
  just
• 54:30
  what
• 54:30
  your
• 54:30
  preference
• 54:31
  are,
• 54:31
  but
• 54:31
  it's
• 54:31
  also
• 54:32
  whether
• 54:32
  you
• 54:32
  can
• 54:32
  actually,
• 54:33
  walk
• 54:33
  up
• 54:33
  a
• 54:33
  little
• 54:34
  set
• 54:34
  of
• 54:34
  stairs.
• 54:34
  Like
• 54:35
  you
• 54:35
  may
• 54:35
  have
• 54:35
  some
• 54:35
  challenges
• 54:36
  with
• 54:36
  that.
• 54:36
  All
• 54:37
  of
• 54:37
  these
• 54:37
  groups
• 54:38
  of
• 54:38
  people
• 54:38
  tend
• 54:39
  to
• 54:39
  be
• 54:39
  left
• 54:39
  out
• 54:39
  of
• 54:39
  these
• 54:40
  conversations
• 54:40
  and
• 54:41
  when
• 54:41
  it
• 54:41
  comes
• 54:41
  to,
• 54:41
  willingness,
• 54:42
  I
• 54:42
  think
• 54:42
  the.
• 54:43
  And
• 54:44
  all
• 54:44
  of
• 54:44
  these
• 54:44
  groups
• 54:45
  we've
• 54:45
  been
• 54:45
  talking
• 54:45
  about,
• 54:45
  spend
• 54:46
  lots
• 54:46
  of
• 54:46
  money.
• 54:47
  And
• 54:47
  if
• 54:47
  it's
• 54:47
  a
• 54:47
  $900
• 54:48
  billion
• 54:49
  industry
• 54:49
  right
• 54:49
  now
• 54:50
  with
• 54:50
  60
• 54:50
  to
• 54:50
  70%
• 54:51
  of
• 54:51
  that
• 54:52
  population
• 54:52
  being
• 54:53
  just
• 54:53
  what
• 54:54
  most
• 54:54
  people
• 54:54
  think
• 54:55
  of
• 54:55
  us
• 54:55
  as
• 54:55
  a
• 54:55
  typical
• 54:56
  American,
• 54:56
  you're
• 54:57
  still
• 54:57
  leaving
• 54:57
  a
• 54:57
  whole
• 54:58
  lot
• 54:58
  of
• 54:58
  other
• 54:58
  people
• 54:58
  out
• 54:59
  of
• 54:59
  that
• 54:59
  conversation,
• 55:00
  which
• 55:00
  if
• 55:00
  they
• 55:00
  were
• 55:01
  welcomed
• 55:01
  in
• 55:02
  with
• 55:02
  the
• 55:02
  proper,
• 55:03
  what
• 55:03
  red
• 55:03
  carpet
• 55:04
  treatment
• 55:04
  and
• 55:05
  the
• 55:05
  right
• 55:05
  amenities
• 55:05
  and
• 55:05
  the
• 55:06
  right
• 55:06
  sort
• 55:06
  of
• 55:06
  sensitivities,
• 55:07
  and
• 55:08
  more
• 55:08
  importantly,
• 55:09
  respect
• 55:10
  the
• 55:10
  same
• 55:10
  respect
• 55:10
  Lindsey's
• 55:11
  talking
• 55:11
  about.
• 55:11
  Those
• 55:11
  five-year-olds
• 55:12
  are
• 55:12
  giving
• 55:12
  each
• 55:12
  other.
• 55:12
  With
• 55:13
  that
• 55:13
  respect.
• 55:13
  You'd
• 55:14
  be
• 55:14
  making
• 55:14
  so
• 55:15
  much
• 55:15
  more
• 55:15
  money
• 55:15
  in
• 55:15
  this
• 55:15
  business.
• 55:16
  I,
• 55:16
  I
• 55:16
  don't
• 55:16
  have
• 55:16
  a
• 55:16
  lot
• 55:16
  of
• 55:17
  high
• 55:17
  hopes,
• 55:17
  Earl
• 55:18
  seems
• 55:18
  to
• 55:18
  have
• 55:18
  enough
• 55:18
  hope
• 55:18
  for
• 55:18
  all
• 55:19
  of
• 55:19
  us.
• 55:19
  So
• 55:19
  I'm
• 55:19
  hoping
• 55:20
  that,
• 55:20
  it
• 55:20
  rubs
• 55:20
  off
• 55:21
  somewhere.
• 55:21
  I'm
• 55:21
  going
• 55:21
  to
• 55:22
  just
• 55:22
  stick
• 55:22
  to
• 55:22
  doing
• 55:22
  what
• 55:22
  I'm
• 55:23
  doing,
• 55:23
  which
• 55:23
  is,
• 55:23
  we're
• 55:23
  going
• 55:24
  to
• 55:24
  do
• 55:24
  it
• 55:25
  by
• 55:25
  hook
• 55:25
  or
• 55:25
  by
• 55:25
  crook
• 55:26
  one
• 55:26
  way
• 55:26
  or
• 55:26
  another.
• 55:26
  And,
• 55:27
  hopefully
• 55:27
  on
• 55:28
  the
• 55:28
  other
• 55:28
  end
• 55:28
  of
• 55:28
  this,
• 55:28
  when
• 55:28
  I'm
• 55:29
  deep
• 55:29
  in
• 55:29
  the
• 55:29
  grave,
• 55:30
  number
• 55:31
  four
• 55:31
  is,
• 55:31
  the
• 55:31
  industry
• 55:32
  did
• 55:32
  change
• 55:32
  even
• 55:32
  if
• 55:33
  it
• 55:33
  was
• 55:33
  a
• 55:33
  little
• 55:33
  bit
• 55:33
  because,
• 55:34
  people
• 55:34
  are
• 55:34
  now
• 55:35
  demanding
• 55:35
  that
• 55:36
  they
• 55:36
  be
• 55:36
  treated
• 55:36
  with
• 55:36
  respect
• 55:37
  instead
• 55:37
  of
• 55:37
  waiting
• 55:38
  for
• 55:38
  the
• 55:38
  industry
• 55:38
  to
• 55:38
  do
• 55:39
  it
• 55:39
  for,
• 55:39
  to
• 55:39
  them.
• 55:39
  So
• 55:41
  that's
• 55:41
  my
• 55:41
  last
• 55:42
  bit.
• 55:42
  Thank
• 55:42
  you
• 55:42
  so
• 55:42
  much,
• 55:42
  Alan.
• 55:43
  Really
• 55:43
  appreciate
• 55:43
  you
• 55:43
  joining
• 55:44
  us.
• 55:44
  Same
• 55:44
  thing.
• 55:44
  I
• 55:44
  said
• 55:44
  Lindsey
• 55:45
  already.
• 55:45
  David
• 55:46
  and
• 55:46
  Eddie.
• 55:46
  I
• 55:46
  know
• 55:46
  David
• 55:46
  had
• 55:46
  to
• 55:47
  step
• 55:47
  away,
• 55:47
  but
• 55:47
  Eddie
• 55:47
  really
• 55:48
  appreciate
• 55:48
  you
• 55:48
  guys
• 55:48
  joining
• 55:48
  us.
• 55:49
  I
• 55:49
  really
• 55:50
  hope
• 55:50
  that
• 55:50
  all
• 55:50
  of
• 55:50
  you
• 55:51
  will
• 55:51
  be
• 55:51
  more
• 55:51
  involved.
• 55:52
  I
• 55:52
  know
• 55:52
  you
• 55:52
  already
• 55:53
  are
• 55:53
  with
• 55:53
  the
• 55:53
  industry
• 55:53
  going
• 55:54
  forward,
• 55:54
  but
• 55:54
  at
• 55:54
  least
• 55:54
  more
• 55:55
  involved
• 55:55
  in.
• 55:56
  Maybe
• 55:56
  Modern
• 55:56
  Campground
• 55:57
  and
• 55:57
  the
• 55:57
  voices
• 55:58
  and
• 55:58
  the
• 55:58
  platforms
• 55:59
  that
• 55:59
  we
• 55:59
  can
• 55:59
  do
• 55:59
  our
• 56:00
  very
• 56:00
  small
• 56:00
  part
• 56:01
  to
• 56:01
  help
• 56:02
  you
• 56:02
  share
• 56:03
  your
• 56:03
  messages,
• 56:03
  to
• 56:03
  help
• 56:04
  increase
• 56:04
  education
• 56:05
  awareness
• 56:06
  what
• 56:06
  needs
• 56:06
  done,
• 56:07
  what
• 56:07
  doesn't
• 56:07
  need
• 56:07
  done,
• 56:07
  who
• 56:08
  needs
• 56:08
  to
• 56:08
  do
• 56:08
  it,
• 56:08
  how
• 56:09
  it
• 56:09
  needs
• 56:09
  to
• 56:09
  happen,
• 56:09
  all
• 56:09
  those
• 56:10
  kinds
• 56:10
  of
• 56:10
  things.
• 56:10
  And
• 56:10
  I
• 56:11
  know
• 56:12
  I'm
• 56:12
  hopeful
• 56:13
  that
• 56:13
  Angela
• 56:13
  will
• 56:13
  reach
• 56:14
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• 56:14
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• 56:14
  each
• 56:14
  one
• 56:14
  of
• 56:15
  you
• 56:15
  individually.
• 56:15
  And
• 56:15
  maybe
• 56:16
  we
• 56:16
  can
• 56:16
  figure
• 56:16
  out
• 56:16
  ways
• 56:17
  where
• 56:17
  if
• 56:17
  you
• 56:17
  want
• 56:17
  to
• 56:17
  contribute
• 56:18
  through
• 56:18
  columns
• 56:18
  or
• 56:18
  interviews,
• 56:19
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• 56:19
  if
• 56:20
  we
• 56:20
  just
• 56:20
  want
• 56:20
  to
• 56:20
  simply
• 56:20
  do
• 56:21
  something
• 56:21
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• 56:21
  small
• 56:21
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• 56:21
  post
• 56:22
  David
• 56:22
  and
• 56:22
  Eddie's
• 56:22
  videos
• 56:23
  on
• 56:23
  our
• 56:23
  website.
• 56:24
  So
• 56:24
  more
• 56:24
  people
• 56:24
  can
• 56:24
  see
• 56:24
  those
• 56:25
  things
• 56:25
  whatever
• 56:26
  that
• 56:26
  action
• 56:26
  needs
• 56:26
  to
• 56:26
  take.
• 56:27
  Just
• 56:27
  hopefully
• 56:28
  you
• 56:28
  can
• 56:28
  help
• 56:28
  continue
• 56:28
  to
• 56:29
  be
• 56:29
  a
• 56:29
  part
• 56:29
  of
• 56:29
  that
• 56:29
  conversation
• 56:30
  with
• 56:30
  us.
• 56:30
  So
• 56:31
  we
• 56:32
  know
• 56:32
  where
• 56:32
  it
• 56:33
  needs
• 56:33
  to
• 56:33
  go
• 56:33
  because
• 56:34
  I'm
• 56:34
  not
• 56:34
  the
• 56:35
  person
• 56:35
  to
• 56:35
  guide
• 56:35
  that
• 56:35
  conversation.
• 56:36
  And
• 56:36
  all
• 56:36
  of
• 56:36
  you
• 56:36
  are.
• 56:38
  So
• 56:38
  I
• 56:38
  don't
• 56:38
  think
• 56:38
  I
• 56:38
  have
• 56:38
  anything
• 56:39
  else
• 56:39
  to
• 56:39
  add.
• 56:39
  Cara,
• 56:39
  Angela,
• 56:40
  any
• 56:40
  closing
• 56:40
  statements?
• 56:43
  No,
• 56:43
  I
• 56:43
  just
• 56:44
  want
• 56:44
  to
• 56:44
  say
• 56:44
  thanks
• 56:44
  to
• 56:44
  everybody
• 56:45
  for
• 56:45
  your
• 56:45
  time
• 56:45
  and
• 56:46
  for
• 56:46
  joining
• 56:46
  us.
• 56:47
  And
• 56:47
  it
• 56:47
  was
• 56:47
  great
• 56:47
  to
• 56:47
  meet
• 56:47
  you
• 56:47
  all.
• 56:48
  I
• 56:48
  think
• 56:48
  these
• 56:48
  are
• 56:49
  super
• 56:49
  important
• 56:49
  conversations
• 56:50
  and
• 56:51
  certainly
• 56:51
  from
• 56:52
  the
• 56:52
  association
• 56:52
  standpoint,
• 56:53
  it's
• 56:54
  can
• 56:54
  potentially
• 56:54
  play
• 56:55
  a
• 56:55
  valuable
• 56:56
  role
• 56:56
  in
• 56:57
  disseminating
• 56:57
  the
• 56:58
  kind
• 56:58
  of
• 56:58
  education
• 56:59
  and
• 56:59
  perspectives
• 57:00
  to,
• 57:00
  to
• 57:01
  our
• 57:01
  members
• 57:01
  or
• 57:01
  campground
• 57:02
  operators
• 57:02
  across
• 57:03
  the
• 57:03
  country.
• 57:03
  I'm
• 57:03
  committed
• 57:04
  to
• 57:04
  continuing
• 57:04
  to
• 57:04
  do
• 57:04
  that.
• 57:05
  However
• 57:05
  we
• 57:05
  can
• 57:05
  potentially
• 57:06
  be
• 57:06
  in
• 57:06
  touch
• 57:06
  with
• 57:06
  you
• 57:06
  guys
• 57:07
  as
• 57:07
  well
• 57:07
  in
• 57:07
  the
• 57:08
  coming
• 57:08
  weeks.
• 57:08
  And
• 57:10
  look
• 57:10
  forward
• 57:10
  to
• 57:10
  that.
• 57:12
  Thank
• 57:12
  you
• 57:12
  so
• 57:12
  much.
• 57:14
  I
• 57:14
  don't
• 57:14
  know.
• 57:15
  Cause
• 57:16
  my
• 57:16
  connection.
• 57:16
  Isn't
• 57:16
  great,
• 57:17
  but
• 57:17
  thank
• 57:17
  you
• 57:17
  all
• 57:17
  so
• 57:17
  much
• 57:18
  for
• 57:18
  joining
• 57:18
  us
• 57:18
  today.
• 57:18
  We
• 57:19
  really
• 57:19
  appreciate
• 57:19
  it
• 57:20
  and
• 57:20
  I
• 57:20
  will
• 57:21
  absolutely
• 57:21
  be
• 57:21
  reaching
• 57:21
  out
• 57:22
  to
• 57:22
  see
• 57:23
  how
• 57:23
  we
• 57:23
  can
• 57:23
  continue
• 57:23
  with
• 57:24
  him
• 57:24
  together.
• 57:24
  So
• 57:24
  thank
• 57:24
  you
• 57:25
  guys
• 57:25
  so
• 57:25
  much.
• 57:26
  Absolutely.
• 57:27
  Awesome.
• 57:27
  Thank
• 57:28
  you
• 57:28
  everybody.
• 57:28
  We're
• 57:28
  going
• 57:28
  to
• 57:28
  wrap
• 57:29
  it
• 57:29
  up,
• 57:29
  but
• 57:29
  just
• 57:29
  as
• 57:29
  a
• 57:29
  reminder,
• 57:30
  this
• 57:30
  video
• 57:30
  will
• 57:31
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• 57:31
  available
• 57:31
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• 57:31
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• 57:31
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• 57:32
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• 57:32
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• 57:32
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• 57:32
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• 57:33
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• 57:33
  on
• 57:33
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• 57:33
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• 57:34
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• 57:34
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• 57:34
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• 57:34
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• 57:35
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• 57:35
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• 57:35
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• 57:35
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• 57:36
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• 57:36
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• 57:36
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• 57:36
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• 57:36
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• 57:37
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• 57:37
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• 57:37
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• 57:38
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• 57:38
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• 57:38
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• 57:39
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• 57:39
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• 57:40
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• 57:40
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• 57:41
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• 57:41
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• 57:41
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• 57:41
  So
• 57:42
  again,
• 57:43
  looking
• 57:43
  forward
• 57:43
  to
• 57:43
  continuing
• 57:43
  the
• 57:44
  conversation
• 57:44
  with
• 57:44
  all
• 57:44
  of
• 57:44
  you,
• 57:45
  whether
• 57:45
  that's
• 57:45
  through
• 57:45
  articles,
• 57:45
  interviews,
• 57:46
  videos,
• 57:46
  having
• 57:47
  you
• 57:47
  back
• 57:47
  on
• 57:47
  the
• 57:47
  show,
• 57:47
  whatever
• 57:48
  it
• 57:48
  may
• 57:48
  be
• 57:49
  to
• 57:49
  continue
• 57:49
  to
• 57:49
  drive
• 57:50
  that
• 57:50
  conversation
• 57:50
  and
• 57:50
  really
• 57:51
  appreciate
• 57:51
  you
• 57:51
  guys
• 57:51
  being
• 57:51
  here.
• 57:51
  We'll
• 57:52
  see
• 57:52
  you
• 57:52
  next
• 57:52
  week
• 57:53
  for
• 57:53
  another
• 57:53
  show.
• 57:55
  Thanks.