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Taylor Swift is Happy… and Apparently Having Great Sex · I Do, Part 2

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  Speaker 1: Hey, there are folks. It is Tuesday, October seventh. Taylor
• 0:05
  Speaker 1: Swift is happy and apparently horny. Welcome to this episode
• 0:10
  Speaker 1: of Amy and TJ. I didn't that's not me. That
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  Speaker 1: is not me. I am relaying what I had no
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  Speaker 1: idea this was going on, this conversation around Taylor swift album,
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  Speaker 1: So Heart, what did I miss? Am I not in
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  Speaker 1: tune enough to pop culture? I thought she's had a
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  Speaker 1: record setting album and we're going about our business.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean that can all be true. At the
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  Speaker 2: same time, I think look, right away, people were writing
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  Speaker 2: about how this was a departure, not from the way
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  Speaker 2: it sounds the music necessarily, but certainly the subject matter.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, she's often talked about breakups and heartbreak and
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  Speaker 2: all of that. Now she's in love and apparently she's
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  Speaker 2: having amazing sex because there is and I haven't seen
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  Speaker 2: this for some fairly adult themes in her music, where
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  Speaker 2: you know, typically she was you know, selling to a
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  Speaker 2: younger audience. She started when she was a teenager, but
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  Speaker 2: we have to remember she is thirty five years.
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  Speaker 1: Old now, Yeah, very grown woman.
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  Speaker 2: So she's fully capable of talking about and writing about
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  Speaker 2: and singing about sex. But it just is a little
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  Speaker 2: It threw me a little bit when I read some
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  Speaker 2: of the lyrics.
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  Speaker 1: I guess her fans are. Is that what we were
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  Speaker 1: dealing with here, So let's start with that Life of
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  Speaker 1: a Show Girl came out last Friday to record numbers
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  Speaker 1: over the two point seven first day, one day, one day,
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  Speaker 1: so it beat her own week of sales record with
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  Speaker 1: two point seven in the first day. That's just astronomical.
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  Speaker 1: And then her movie was number one at the box
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  Speaker 1: office over the weekend. Everything is cooking for this young
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  Speaker 1: lady when it comes to her music. I am not
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  Speaker 1: used to robes and this threw me. She's almost certainly
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  Speaker 1: critic proof, but she has made I guess she doesn't
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  Speaker 1: have a lot of projects that not a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people are bold enough to go after her and to
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  Speaker 1: go after her music, to go after her lyrics, and
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  Speaker 1: I have never seen it. I'm not the biggest Swift follower,
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  Speaker 1: but there is a different tone to what I'm seeing,
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  Speaker 1: or I guess more in the masses of what I'm
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  Speaker 1: hearing about her music.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, you think what you're saying is basically there are
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  Speaker 2: media outlets, magazines, and even a lot of folks on
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  Speaker 2: social media daring to criticize her work, daring to criticize
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  Speaker 2: her lyrics, and that is not something we're used to
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  Speaker 2: seeing or hearing.
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  Speaker 1: I guess I don't know. Something just feels a little.
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  Speaker 1: People feel a little more emboldened, or maybe they're going
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  Speaker 1: after her art and her life differently now and we
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  Speaker 1: can get into the possibility of why this is a
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  Speaker 1: young woman, this is period, point blank. I don't give
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  Speaker 1: a damn really one way or another, if she ever
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  Speaker 1: put out another album. I am a fan of hers,
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  Speaker 1: not necessarily her music. It's not my lane. I respect it,
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  Speaker 1: but it's just I don't put on Taylor Swift's music.
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  Speaker 1: I've seen her in concert one of the best things
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  Speaker 1: I've ever seen in my life.
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  Speaker 2: I love her music, so I run to her music
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  Speaker 2: and have obviously because of just our relationship at ABC News,
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  Speaker 2: got to meet her several times. She was kind to
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  Speaker 2: my daughters. She will always be a superstar to me.
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  Speaker 1: So if she has taken a turn and produced an
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  Speaker 1: album that's different from the rest, talking about things that
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  Speaker 1: are different from the rest, and if that has been
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  Speaker 1: fed by her personal life and this woman being happy
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  Speaker 1: that I'm saying this is the best album of her life.
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  Speaker 1: I love if this is what she produces when she
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  Speaker 1: is happy. Girl, do you think?
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  Speaker 2: Look she she writes, she writes her songs, and she
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  Speaker 2: obviously famously writes about the ups and downs of her
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  Speaker 2: love life. And now she is on a upward trajectory,
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  Speaker 2: and she's writing about the good sex. She's writing about
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  Speaker 2: the great relationships. She's writing about being engaged. She's writing
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  Speaker 2: about maybe even an ex girlfriend of Travis, maybe a
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  Speaker 2: friend or an ex friend or never was, a friend
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  Speaker 2: who's a fellow singer who they both were dating, someone
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  Speaker 2: in the same group. So she's going there and maybe
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  Speaker 2: being a little edgier than she's been before.
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  Speaker 1: You okay with that?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, of course. I mean if you can't stay in
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  Speaker 2: the same lane, you can't be seventeen all your life
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  Speaker 2: talking about it's a love story, you know. No, it's
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  Speaker 2: she's obviously gone through some shit and she's writing about it,
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  Speaker 2: and she's singing about it.
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  Speaker 1: Dang it. Can can you think of one who successfully
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  Speaker 1: with somebody? Obviously we're gonna miss that made that transition
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  Speaker 1: and their fans grew up with them that they went
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  Speaker 1: from kind of a teeny bopper thing. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: what Justin Bieber's is not a bad example.
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  Speaker 2: That's a great example. I was actually thinking of Michael Jackson.
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  Speaker 2: I was thinking about someone who you know, started singing
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  Speaker 2: young and was singing about poppy, fun songs and then
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  Speaker 2: was able to Yeah, grow the lyrics grew with them.
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  Speaker 1: Who else are we missing as guy's gotta be something.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, to think about that, Okay, her maybe did
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  Speaker 1: her evolution come a little later? Did her the maturity
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  Speaker 1: or a grit or a I don't know, a ruggedness
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  Speaker 1: to her lyrics about adulthood not come until she's thirty five.
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  Speaker 1: I am not familiar enough with her music just be
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  Speaker 1: honest there to know what kind of themes. But she
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  Speaker 1: talks about heartbreak.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, and she's she's gotten edgy or her themes have softened.
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  Speaker 2: I mean again, when she was young, it was all
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I love her early stuff. When she was
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  Speaker 2: a young, hopeful, bright eyed, bushy tailed girl who had
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  Speaker 2: the whole world in front of her and she was
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  Speaker 2: conquering her dreams. Those are sweet fun songs, even twenty two.
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  Speaker 2: I'm feeling twenty two. But yes, now she went in
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  Speaker 2: like ooh, look what you made me do? Like she
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  Speaker 2: starts you know, she's been she's been doing some not
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  Speaker 2: the necessarily just pop songs. She's had some fun edge
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  Speaker 2: to some of her songs.
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  Speaker 1: So is this then about the sex?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, sex, I haven't really And look, I don't know
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  Speaker 2: Taylor swift songs the way her fans do the Swifties do,
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  Speaker 2: but I don't recall there being much sex talk in
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  Speaker 2: any of her lyrics.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So let's get to what look people have. And again,
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  Speaker 1: there are critics music criigs out. They're doing their thing,
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  Speaker 1: and they're supposed to be critical of the music. And
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  Speaker 1: I think a lot of those folks have been respectful
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  Speaker 1: of it and doing their jobs. But there are three
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  Speaker 1: things that are standing out to fans certainly and critics alike,
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  Speaker 1: and in particular a song that people are pointing to
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  Speaker 1: in particular lyrics having to do about sex. And it's
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  Speaker 1: almost no, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna put anything
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  Speaker 1: you had to influence you, but I'll just tell you
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  Speaker 1: the name of the song. It's would, Okay, And now
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  Speaker 1: we'll share the lyrics that people are just having a
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  Speaker 1: blast with.
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  Speaker 2: All right, this is I'm actually blushing a little even
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  Speaker 2: with these lyrics because yeah, all right, she says, forgive me.
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  Speaker 2: It sounds cocky. He amatized me and opened my eyes.
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  Speaker 2: You told me amatized is a Yes, it's.
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  Speaker 1: A she shortened a popular online reference to having sex
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  Speaker 1: so good that you have been dimatized. I didn't want
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  Speaker 1: to say.
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  Speaker 2: It, all right, but amatized and opened my eyes Redwood Tree,
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  Speaker 2: it ain't hard to see. His love was the key
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  Speaker 2: that opened my thighs.
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  Speaker 1: Heal.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah again. I'm like, I don't really want to read this,
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  Speaker 2: but okay, girls, I don't need to catch the bouquet
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  Speaker 2: to know a hard rock is on the way.
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  Speaker 1: But bump, bump, I mean, and.
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  Speaker 2: Baby, I'll admit I've been a little superstitious. The curse
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  Speaker 2: on me was broken by your magic. Wand man seems
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  Speaker 2: to be that you and me we make our own
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  Speaker 2: luck new heights of manhood. I ain't got a knock
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  Speaker 2: on wood.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think Taylor if she's happy have fun? Look, Yes,
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  Speaker 3: that's fun, it's funny. That's just it's hilarious. How much
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  Speaker 3: I always say man rappers are some great writers, because
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  Speaker 3: even if they talk about some of the most bulgar
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  Speaker 3: things you've ever heard, it's creative And how it's delivered.
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  Speaker 3: If she's having fun and talking about sex in this
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  Speaker 3: way in a song, and this is more actually one
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  Speaker 3: of the more upbeat it has, like the Jackson five
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  Speaker 3: with that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like ABC a little bit at the beginning.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, I was thinking, sure, I think it's great.
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  Speaker 2: She should be able to write about whatever and sing
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  Speaker 2: about whatever she wants. And if she's singing about having
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  Speaker 2: great sex and being really happy, amazing. I was just
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  Speaker 2: thinking about his mom and her mom like that would
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  Speaker 2: give me so much pause. But I love that she's
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  Speaker 2: risen above that, and it's all for the art. It's
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  Speaker 2: all for the art.
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  Speaker 1: She's a grown woman. However, I will, you know, say
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  Speaker 1: okay to the fans who have grown up with her,
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  Speaker 1: who have been listening to every line of every album,
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  Speaker 1: and to hear that from her might be a little stunning.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just I mean, I think if you can.
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  Speaker 2: It seems like she's laughing as she's saying it, and
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  Speaker 2: so if you can just laugh with her and say, man,
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  Speaker 2: if you haven't experienced that one day, I hope I will,
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  Speaker 2: you know, just lean in, enjoy it all right.
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  Speaker 1: The other issue here that some have pointed out is
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  Speaker 1: the idea. I guess you put it this way, right,
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  Speaker 1: Disney is trying to get away from the princess who
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  Speaker 1: needs to be saved in the tower from the prince,
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  Speaker 1: and then once he comes, everything is going to be okay.
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  Speaker 1: And I guess it's that the life of Ophelia. That
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  Speaker 1: song is one that folks are pointing to it and
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  Speaker 1: again do you think, sister, But it does have kind
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  Speaker 1: of that theme of everything's okay in my life, you
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  Speaker 1: know what?
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  Speaker 2: That is what happened for her, that's I think we again,
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  Speaker 2: we can overcoreac overcorrect, excuse me, instead of teaching all
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  Speaker 2: little girls that they need a prince to come save her.
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  Speaker 2: It's okay. If maybe you were not feel in love
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  Speaker 2: and had gotten disappointed so many times, when someone comes
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  Speaker 2: and suddenly you believe in love again, I think. And
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  Speaker 2: if it took that guy to make you feel that
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  Speaker 2: way again, to realize that it was possible, that can
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  Speaker 2: be okay too. You know, I don't think it has
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  Speaker 2: to be, but I get it. There were some folks
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  Speaker 2: online saying things like, please don't tell me that you
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  Speaker 2: know Ophelia ends up dying killing herself in Shakespearean tragedy
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  Speaker 2: that it is. And she was like, please don't tell
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  Speaker 2: me that you know you needed a quarterback so that
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  Speaker 2: you didn't, you know, do harm or kill yourself or
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  Speaker 2: end up like Ophelia. So the people who've taken it
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  Speaker 2: a little too far, like they're personally offended that she's
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  Speaker 2: saying she was at death's door until Travis Kelsey came around.
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  Speaker 2: But maybe that's true and that's her path and that's
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  Speaker 2: what happened with her.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, the thing, I don't know how, and I haven't
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  Speaker 1: heard the breakdown that she does a thing where she
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  Speaker 1: kind of goes into each song. I haven't listened to
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  Speaker 1: her and the meaning behind this and the story behind it.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't know. I didn't think about it until
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  Speaker 1: you just said, well, maybe that's true for her, Like
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  Speaker 1: we don't know how propable place and I suggesting Taylor
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  Speaker 1: Swift with everything. No, but she caring herself.
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  Speaker 2: She does say this all that time, This is life
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  Speaker 2: of Ophelia. All that time I sat alone in my tower,
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  Speaker 2: you were just honing your powers. Now I can see
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  Speaker 2: it all. Late one night you dug me out of
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  Speaker 2: my grave and saved my heart from the fate of Ophelia,
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: so her heart from the Fate of Ophelia where she
• 11:41
  Speaker 2: wanted to die because she was heartbroken. So I think
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  Speaker 2: that's okay. I mean, look her one of her big
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  Speaker 2: hits that I sang so badly, The beginning Love story
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  Speaker 2: is all about a love story. It's a very like
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  Speaker 2: a I'm a princess, I'm Romeo, I'm Juliette, You're Romeo
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  Speaker 2: like she's She's sung about fairy tales before. So this
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  Speaker 2: is a little bit of a darker twist to it
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  Speaker 2: with a happy ending.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but again, we're just passing along what some are
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  Speaker 1: saying out there. I wouldn't suggest the other thing about it.
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  Speaker 1: It's just art, right, Yeah, she's just telling telling a story. Now,
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  Speaker 1: that's one part that's being looked out. The other one
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  Speaker 1: has to do with Travis Kelsey's ex girlfriend. Now there's
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  Speaker 1: no way I would have been able to dig this
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  Speaker 1: one out on my own. These folks can spot stuff,
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  Speaker 1: can't think, because this takes a little bit of a
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  Speaker 1: deep dive.
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  Speaker 2: Well, people know all the ins and outs. We did not.
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  Speaker 2: I actually I knew what Travis Kelsey's ex girlfriend looked like,
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  Speaker 2: but I didn't really know anything about her, So yes,
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  Speaker 2: I would never have been able to figure this out.
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  Speaker 2: But it is all in the song Opaighte and she
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  Speaker 2: describes a scene, or at least a past love of
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  Speaker 2: the person she's writing about that very much mimics something
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  Speaker 2: that happened in real life between Travis Kelcey and his
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  Speaker 2: now ex girlfriend Kaylin Nicole. She writes, you were dancing
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  Speaker 2: through the lightning strikes sleepless in the Onyx Night. We
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  Speaker 2: should point out that Travis Kelcey's ex girlfriend is black,
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  Speaker 2: so there is that people are pointing to Onyx Knight.
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  Speaker 2: But now the sky is opal light. Oples are white.
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  Speaker 2: Oh oh oh oh, my Lord never made no one
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  Speaker 2: like you before. You had to make your own sunshine.
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  Speaker 2: But now the sky is opal light.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's a stretch for anybody to try to
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  Speaker 1: I don't think that's what she was singing about. That's
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  Speaker 1: just me, and that's that's some folks out there. Really,
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  Speaker 1: it could.
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  Speaker 2: Have just been a dark night, like a black night,
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  Speaker 2: like meaning you were depressed, you were sad, but there
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  Speaker 2: was a specific lyric. This is where they really pointed
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  Speaker 2: to Kayla Nicole. This was different, yeah, she said, and
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  Speaker 2: this is speaking of her person she's singing about. We
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  Speaker 2: can't say it's for sure, Travis Kelsey, but people, of
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  Speaker 2: course are connecting the dots. You couldn't understand it. Why
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  Speaker 2: you felt alone? You were in it for real. She
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  Speaker 2: was in her phone and you were just a poet.
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  Speaker 2: And why don't we try to love love? We give
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  Speaker 2: it all we got. You finally left the table, and
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: what a simple thought. You're starving till you're not the
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  Speaker 2: phone thing. There is a story behind that.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, there was a video out there that was posted
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  Speaker 1: that showed Travis Kelsey in an interaction interaction with the
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  Speaker 1: ex girlfriend in which there was a back and forth
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  Speaker 1: over the phone, essentially in attention, if you will, a
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  Speaker 1: focus in the relationship, paying more attention to the phone
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  Speaker 1: in that moment than they were to each other. So
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  Speaker 1: that's the backstory there. It's hard to look at this
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  Speaker 1: one and see what a quinkie dink.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, well, and here's another quinky dink. So on the
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: very day October three, that Taylor's album came out and
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: the song Open LIGHTE and its lyrics were out for everybody,
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  Speaker 2: Caylin Nicole posted this to her story without any reference
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: to anything she re shared in America's Next Top Model
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: clip that featured Tyra Banks asking a contestant, how do
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: you compare yourself to the other girls out there? That
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: contestant said, I don't compare myself to other girls. I'm
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  Speaker 2: no comparison to anyone else. Kuwinki deeck.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe she's a producer on the show and she's trying
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  Speaker 1: to promote it in the new season.
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  Speaker 2: I love how everybody now, well, if you, I guess,
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  Speaker 2: if you can't write a song for millions to hear.
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  Speaker 2: We all have our social media feeds and don't people
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  Speaker 2: just love to send veiled messages.
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: That's a pretty good one, I.
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  Speaker 2: Do. I agree because it wasn't mean.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: It wasn't me at all. She's just and you know,
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: as she turned it back on herself. I don't know
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: this show.
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  Speaker 2: It was well done.
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: That's kind of well done. Give it all this so
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: we haven't even got to another one of the big
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: big mysteries. It does Taylor Swift have pop beef? They've
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: been listening to Drake and Kendrick Lamar too long? Stay
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: with us, folks, All right, folks, welcome back here now. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: there's a possibility of a pop beef. I didn't know
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: this was a real kind of funny thing. But yes,
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  Speaker 1: it's not. The Life of a Showgirl is out now
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  Speaker 1: setting records, but a lot of folks have been de
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: siphering a bunch of songs, the lyrics, the meaning behind them,
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: and surprisingly it's I didn't this. The Metacritics score for
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: this her twelfth album is in the bottom two of
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: all of her wow previous albums. So those are critics
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: speaking up. We'll get you assume some of what the
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: critics are saying here in just a second. But Charlie
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  Speaker 1: xc X, Now, I didn't know these two had any
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: type of relationship of any kind, and certainly didn't know
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  Speaker 1: there was something bull bubbling at the surface, I should say.
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  Speaker 1: But she's a British singer and a big deal who
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: has blown up over the past few years.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, and I didn't know this either, but apparently at
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  Speaker 2: one point they were both dating a member of the
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  Speaker 2: same band and so.
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  Speaker 1: Very important to the backstory.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, so Charlie XCX's song Sympathy is a Knife came
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  Speaker 2: out first.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was last year.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, okay, last year. And the lyric in Charlie XCX's
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  Speaker 2: song is this one girl taps my insecurities. Don't know
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: if it's real or if I'm spiraling. Don't want to
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: see her backstage at my boyfriend's show, fingers crossed behind
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: my back. I hope they break up quick. And then
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: there was also a reference to a boring blonde, sorry,
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: a boring did I get it wrong? Boring Barbie Barbie.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: That's h Taylor Swift picked up yes on that line
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: in her song, but that's very important. I didn't know this.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: So these are two women who were dating guys in
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: the same band. That's the backstory. Now that lyric comes
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: along and all the fans are piecing this together. So
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: now Taylor Swift on this new album has a song
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: called actually Romantic and robes. They picked up on this immediately.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: It seems like it might be all about Charlie XCX.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: So here's what Taylor Swift sings, high five my ex
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: and then said, you're glad he goasted me, wrote me
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: a song saying it makes you sick to see my face.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: Some people might be offended, but it's actually sweet. All
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: the time you've spent on me, it's honestly wild, all
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: the effort you've put in. It's actually romantic. I really
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: got to hand it to you. No man has ever
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: loved me like you do.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: You couldn't even get through it, could you.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: Oh? I was just dripping with sarcast So that.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: Is the lyric everybody's pointing to. And also at the top,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: what's the top lyric about the one you were just
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: trying to pull up about the the Barbie boring Barbie
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: line where she and accused her of being bold because
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: she's on coke. Oh, yes, that line. So apparently this
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: has been going back and forth, and mind you, folks,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: we should put this out there. We didn't say, did we.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: Charlie XCX has opened for Taylor Swift on tour before,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: so these two know each other pretty doll going well,
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know if any of this is real. Taylor
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: Swift has put out not a statement, but she explained
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: some of the songs lyrics, and she says, you know what,
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: get that lyric first, and then I'm gonna read this quote.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: How are you doing over there?
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: Because I'm trying to find I'm trying to find exactly
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: where the boring Barbie came in. Okay, wait, hold on,
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: So Charlie XCX said there are no diss tracks on
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: her album, but.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: The song the top of the song is where I
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: have it here and take this with starts. The first
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: line of the song is I heard you call me
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: boring Barbie when the Kochs got you brave. That's how
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: the song starts. Now that's some I mean, even Kendrick
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: Lamar is applaud that whoever he's talking about. So I
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: don't know how much of this is real. And the
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: back and forth of Charlie XCX is now put out
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: a video something online in which it's a recording studio
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: and you hear just a couple of notes, essentially, I
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: give your heads up, I'm in the studio.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: I'm working you like that. Huh, that's good. I got
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: a new album coming out.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: That's good, rap beep stuff. Now folks are saying Taylor
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: explained what the lyric and what the song is about
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: the robes and reading her explanation, it didn't turn me
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: away from it, said, oh, she's confirming.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: Yes, thinking she didn't say yes it was Charlie XCX,
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: but she explained the exact scenario in which these two,
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: it seems, have found themselves. So Taylor said, it's a
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: song about realizing that someone else has kind of had
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: a one sided adversarial relationship with you that you didn't
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: know about, and all of a sudden they start doing
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: too much and they start letting you know that actually
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: you've been living in their head rent free and you
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: had no idea. That kind of sounds exactly what we
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: just described.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: That's more brutal than the lyrics. Yeah, oh so, I
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know Charlie XCX saying.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: No one's love no man's loved me the way you
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: do that, that's pretty. That's that's a big poke.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: That's a compliment and the greatest insult ever. We want
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: to hit you with a few reviews here, just from
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: the New York Times Robes, because some of this stuff
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: is really good, oh says while the album goes down easy,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: it's not a hard pivot or a grand leap. It's
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: another missive from the inner world. The most famous politician
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: of our generation.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: Musician, you said, politician.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: Famous musician. Well, she did well. She was out in
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: the campaign.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Drill, wasn't She's a musician, Well, the.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Most famous musician of her generation set to meticulous mid
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: tempo creations that often glisten and sometimes trip over themselves.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: She said. They say. In nearly every song, the music
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: makes a sparkling first impression, but as the album unfolds,
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: the lyrics undermine those pop satisfactions. As the words sank in,
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: I was left wondering how many scores does Swift still
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: need to settle.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's interesting that I'm telling you she's got She's
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: creating pop Beef's.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, maybe it's brilliant. Look at what it did
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: for Kendrick Lamar and even look at what it's done
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: for Drake in terms of album sales. You keep pulling
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: up Spotify and Drake's like number one, number two, number.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, he just got back to work.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: Look at the end of the day. Well, even if
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: that rap beef kind of ignited a fire in him
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: and his fans to say, hey, we like him too,
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: this could be brilliant marketing.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: Babe. Wow, all right. Now are a few folks critics
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: of this album. One says we may have seen Taylor
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: on far better songwriting form than with the Life of
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: a Show Goal, but perhaps now more than ever, she
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: is making music for herself over anyone else. I buy that.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: Simon Cowell calls that indulgent on American idol, but you
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: know what, she's earned the right to be. I feel
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: like my personal opinion this one also is she leans
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: fully into the idea of her sona as a work
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: of artifice. The twelve songs here are either a peak
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: under the mask or are another mask altogether. From a
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: critical perspective, that pivot makes it at least a little
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: bit interesting as an exercise. But what's most surprising about
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: the Life of a Showgirl is the extent to which
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: it's off putting, both as a pop album and as
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: a Taylor Swift album.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: That's why I put in parentheses before that one. This
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: is the best quote. This is the best critic The
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: best way I've seen it put is that people don't
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: like it as a Taylor Swift album.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: I thought that was a good way for them to
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: put that.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that does make sense, But I do you know,
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: I do appreciate hmmm. This one's tough. The Life of
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: a Showgirl isn't a particularly bad album, but given Swift's
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: immense back catalog, too much of it sounds like an
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: artist on auto pilot. That's tough.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Upfront, The one two up says it's kind of the
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: same thing at the end appears a signal of disinterest
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: in evolution. Again, these are folks who, again I'm familiar
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: with her, Yeah, but there's are folks who pay attention
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: and know her, know her music, know all of those albums.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: I was shocked, Grobes. I was sitting up there with
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Savine earlier and asked, can you name any of the
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: other I really could not name a Taylor Swift album.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: I couldn't think of the name of even of them.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: See Sabine popped off all twelve.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh wow, that's impressive.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: Without even trying. So I'm for her to be at
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: this place, to have that reach, to evolve that this
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: may be the album she's been singing about eleven previous albums.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: You know, I feel like the song the sound does
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: sound the same, but it's just the lyrics that have
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: changed a bit, and I appreciate that. And look, you know,
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: she's it does seem she's very proud of it. The
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: fans are gobbling it up, and she looks happier than
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: she's ever been before, and that makes.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: It a great album, folks. And with that, always appreciate
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: you hanging thus for now, I'm teaching.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Hold and I'm Amy Robot. We'll talk to you soon.
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  Speaker 1: M m m mmm
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  Speaker 2: Mm hmmm mm