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- 0:03Speaker 1: Welcome to the Late Debase.
- 0:08Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the show. I'm Caler bond
- 0:11Speaker 2: Eve for the second hour of TV tonight. Props to
- 0:13Speaker 2: you if you've stayed since Kredlin where you watched me
- 0:16Speaker 2: six pm, joined of course by Liz Storer and Joe Hildebrand.
- 0:22Speaker 3: Right, you know how please?
- 0:24Speaker 2: You know how much we love a council story on
- 0:27Speaker 2: this program, and we've got plenty of it for you.
- 0:29Speaker 1: Tonight. We'll tell you.
- 0:30Speaker 2: About a council over in the US campaigning for menstrual equality,
- 0:35Speaker 2: whatever that is in the papers. We'll tell you about
- 0:38Speaker 2: a mayor here in Australia who lied about his particulars
- 0:41Speaker 2: during the election campaign and then blamed it on a
- 0:45Speaker 2: hundred concussions. And then later on in the show we'll
- 0:48Speaker 2: tell you about the dumbest court defendant ever. But first, you,
- 0:54Speaker 2: like me, perhaps grew up watching cricket on TV. Now,
- 0:58Speaker 2: some of our old viewers of would have come to
- 1:00Speaker 2: it a little bit later, but I grew up with
- 1:02Speaker 2: the likes of Tony greg and Richie Benno and Bill
- 1:06Speaker 2: Lourie in the Halcyon days of Channel nine.
- 1:10Speaker 1: Commentari Does this remind you.
- 1:14Speaker 2: Whatever turns to a star because she seemed to run
- 1:19Speaker 2: straight at him and all of a sudden he was.
- 1:21Speaker 1: On his back.
- 1:22Speaker 3: Fitchen's enjoying Tony West's seed.
- 1:31Speaker 1: Straightaway. He's Christ out of the stumps taste.
- 1:42Speaker 2: Now. Of course, the bloke you saw at the end
- 1:44Speaker 2: there was Michael Slater.
- 1:46Speaker 1: Once upon a time.
- 1:47Speaker 2: He was a decorated Test player who played seventy four
- 1:49Speaker 2: Tests for Australia, an average of forty two point eight
- 1:53Speaker 2: three runs, fourteen centuries and twenty one half centuries and
- 1:57Speaker 2: he was a big part of my childhood watching.
- 2:00Speaker 1: But of course in recent years he's had to deal.
- 2:02Speaker 2: With and has gone through a number of arrests and
- 2:06Speaker 2: convictions for domestic violence and other related offenses.
- 2:10Speaker 1: He was caught.
- 2:11Speaker 2: Again last month and charged with some nineteen domestic violence
- 2:16Speaker 2: related charges and with zen put in the slammer because
- 2:20Speaker 2: he was denied bail. Will the Wogga Wogga Council and
- 2:23Speaker 2: he was a Wogga Wogga boy, has decided to take
- 2:26Speaker 2: his name off the Michael Slater Oval. The council voted
- 2:30Speaker 2: last night four to three to remove his name. After
- 2:34Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago someone puts some tape over
- 2:37Speaker 2: his name on the sign. Well, they've made it official
- 2:40Speaker 2: now because of course they have decided that he has
- 2:43Speaker 2: brought shame to the region, and it opens up this
- 2:46Speaker 2: question of whether or not whenever someone commits an offense
- 2:51Speaker 2: or does something wrong, their name should be expunged from history.
- 2:54Speaker 2: That's of course what they're doing to Michael Slater here.
- 2:58Speaker 2: And yes he has been convicted, so it's not all
- 3:01Speaker 2: allegations anymore. But you know, I'm really conflicted on this one, Liz,
- 3:07Speaker 2: because sure, he is a man who has fallen from grace,
- 3:11Speaker 2: and there's no doubt he has done bad things. He
- 3:13Speaker 2: has convictions relating to domestic violence and other violence, etc.
- 3:20Speaker 2: But can you separate the man or the woman, as
- 3:23Speaker 2: the case may be, from the crime and say, look,
- 3:26Speaker 2: we still leave the name there because it goes down
- 3:29Speaker 2: this road of you know, we're tearing down statues, or
- 3:31Speaker 2: certainly people at Kamikazi tearing down statues now because they've
- 3:35Speaker 2: decided that someone was a bad historical figure. We have
- 3:39Speaker 2: names being removed from streets and electorates and all sorts
- 3:43Speaker 2: of things because we've decided that they're no longer okay.
- 3:47Speaker 2: Is it okay to say no more?
- 3:49Speaker 1: We don't want you.
- 3:51Speaker 4: Well, it was the honor of having this oval named
- 3:54Speaker 4: after him predated all of these offenses. So you're quite
- 3:58Speaker 4: right in saying the question is, can you honor someone
- 4:02Speaker 4: for extraordinary professional especially athletes, their prowess at any kind
- 4:09Speaker 4: of thing, as well as knowing that in their personal
- 4:14Speaker 4: life they were a piece of crap.
- 4:17Speaker 5: But at the time as well.
- 4:19Speaker 4: So if the answer is yes, and we should just
- 4:21Speaker 4: expunge anyone that had dodgy things going on in their
- 4:24Speaker 4: personal life at some point.
- 4:25Speaker 5: Who would be left.
- 4:27Speaker 4: There wouldn't be a building left or an oval left.
- 4:30Speaker 4: We'd have to rename them all, and we'd have to
- 4:32Speaker 4: start calling them after nobody. Because if I name something
- 4:35Speaker 4: today in honor of Joe, such an upstair, what is it?
- 4:39Speaker 5: And tomorrow he commits some sort.
- 4:42Speaker 1: Of felony is his name?
- 4:46Speaker 4: Then exponge like it just reaches a level. Obviously, these
- 4:49Speaker 4: honors nowadays are never handed to someone who currently has
- 4:53Speaker 4: convictions on their records because people would just be like,
- 4:56Speaker 4: we don't care what you achieved as a cricketer, you're
- 4:59Speaker 4: a terror able person when it comes to your personal life.
- 5:03Speaker 5: But because it pre dates and his achievements.
- 5:06Speaker 4: Still stand I just think it's a moot point. You'd
- 5:11Speaker 4: have to start renaming a lot of things, doing your
- 5:13Speaker 4: homework on everyone who's ever had anything named after them,
- 5:16Speaker 4: going into their personal lives and saying, well, did these
- 5:19Speaker 4: guys have something bad going on behind doors as well?
- 5:22Speaker 3: Yeah? I think it's probably a sliding scale, isn't it.
- 5:25Speaker 3: I mean, in theory, the art should be its own thing, right,
- 5:28Speaker 3: So you know, a song is a good song regardless
- 5:31Speaker 3: of who wrote it. The song stands to a masterpiece.
- 5:34Speaker 3: Doesn't matter what say, Leonardo da Vinci did in his private.
- 5:37Speaker 5: Life, they're the ones.
- 5:39Speaker 3: It's still a masterpiece. But then again, where do you
- 5:43Speaker 3: draw the line? And this is what this is what
- 5:44Speaker 3: I'm kind of concerned about. Firstly, that this happened just
- 5:47Speaker 3: because someone took it upon themselves to cross out his name,
- 5:50Speaker 3: and then the council suddenly decided that had to rename
- 5:53Speaker 3: the Oval. So it didn't do it. You know, months
- 5:56Speaker 3: or years ago when these charges were first raise viction
- 6:00Speaker 3: of the first phrase, So do they have a little
- 6:02Speaker 3: sort of abacus where they go, all right, yeah, okay,
- 6:04Speaker 3: third conviction. Now you don't get the oval. But the
- 6:07Speaker 3: first couple of you find like again, it's a problematic one.
- 6:10Speaker 3: Does everyone still listen to Michael Jackson songs?
- 6:12Speaker 1: Well, and that's because the seasons.
- 6:15Speaker 3: Took Michael Jackson after we all found out that it
- 6:18Speaker 3: really was Michael Jackson in that episode, they took him
- 6:21Speaker 3: off it.
- 6:21Speaker 2: But you listened to any FM radio station and they're
- 6:24Speaker 2: still playing Michael Jackson's right, And.
- 6:26Speaker 3: Then okay, so we've got that all right. Michael Jackson
- 6:28Speaker 3: was never convicted before you're ride in, so that there's
- 6:31Speaker 3: plenty of plenty of reguations out there. Rolf Harris, Ye,
- 6:35Speaker 3: do we still listen to Rolf Harris songs or not?
- 6:37Speaker 3: You know?
- 6:37Speaker 2: I don't well, I mean I remember at school it
- 6:40Speaker 2: was you know, Jake the Peg and Tymy Kangaroo down Sport.
- 6:43Speaker 1: But I suppose he's been.
- 6:45Speaker 3: There was a community center. I think it was in
- 6:46Speaker 3: Wi Community Center. I'm not sure if it was named after.
- 6:49Speaker 3: I had a Rolf Harris mural sort of dedicated to him,
- 6:52Speaker 3: and they got rid of that because I thought, well,
- 6:54Speaker 3: we just can't have it there. But again, Pablo Picasso,
- 6:58Speaker 3: he was a bit of an a hole by all reports,
- 7:00Speaker 3: And there are plenty of plenty if you're talking about
- 7:03Speaker 3: domestic violence here, plenty of figures of history. You could
- 7:06Speaker 3: go back. John Lennon admitted to hitting his partner, and
- 7:10Speaker 3: he actually admits it in an interview, says I was
- 7:12Speaker 3: a hitter, and he writes about it in a song. Now,
- 7:15Speaker 3: are we not going to listen to any John Lennon musically?
- 7:17Speaker 3: They're going to rename John Lennon International Airport at Liverpool
- 7:20Speaker 3: if we're not going to have any tolerance for domestic violence.
- 7:23Speaker 3: Or because he repented and said he doesn't do it anymore,
- 7:25Speaker 3: is that they're okay because he's a man of peace?
- 7:27Speaker 3: Well what if Michael Slater says, I'm really really sorry,
- 7:29Speaker 3: I've found God. I'm a man of peace. Now do
- 7:32Speaker 3: I get the name of my oval back? So anyone
- 7:34Speaker 3: who thinks that this is a black and white issue,
- 7:36Speaker 3: frankly doesn't know their history. And it's same guys with
- 7:39Speaker 3: tearing down statues, whether it's Captain Cook or the Confederate
- 7:41Speaker 3: statues that were built during the Jim Crow area in
- 7:43Speaker 3: the American South. Fine, you know who they're tearing down now,
- 7:46Speaker 3: Winston Churchill. They're tearing down Mahatma Gandhi because Gandhy wasn't
- 7:50Speaker 3: sufficiently advocating on the side of black South Africans. Who's
- 7:54Speaker 3: more concerned with Indian South Africans, And so he was
- 7:57Speaker 3: a racist as well because he you know, he supported
- 8:00Speaker 3: sliding color scar when he was there at the time.
- 8:02Speaker 3: Where do you draw the line? Do you demolish Paris
- 8:04Speaker 3: because it was built by Napoleon? There was a terrible
- 8:08Speaker 3: the nineth century dictator. I think if the.
- 8:11Speaker 4: Honor predates the crime, sorry reverse that. So if yeah,
- 8:17Speaker 4: if the honor predates the crime, leave it.
- 8:19Speaker 5: Otherwise it's going to.
- 8:21Speaker 1: Be impossible to roll out.
- 8:22Speaker 4: Obviously, the council was very divided on this as well.
- 8:26Speaker 5: The vote was three to four.
- 8:28Speaker 4: So also, who is going to then decide how bad
- 8:33Speaker 4: the crime has to be in order for the honor
- 8:36Speaker 4: to be revoked.
- 8:36Speaker 3: Jim Jeffrey actually has developed formula I want.
- 8:39Speaker 4: To remove honors or thought crimes.
- 8:43Speaker 3: It's like this.
- 8:44Speaker 4: Person holds certain opinions, like the famous saga of Margaret Court, people.
- 8:49Speaker 5: Calling for the arena named in her honor.
- 8:52Speaker 4: She still holds the world record for women's championships one,
- 8:57Speaker 4: and yet they want to go, well, we don't leave
- 9:00Speaker 4: what she believes, and so she should lose.
- 9:04Speaker 5: The honor of having this arena named after her. So
- 9:08Speaker 5: then even if.
- 9:08Speaker 4: You even if you go okay, let's let's roll with
- 9:11Speaker 4: this a little bit, it very quickly gets out of
- 9:13Speaker 4: hand and people go, oh, well that's a crime.
- 9:15Speaker 3: Can I say, I know this is going to be controversial,
- 9:17Speaker 3: but I actually do support the renaming of Margaret Court No,
- 9:21Speaker 3: because it should be called Margaret Court Court. Let's not
- 9:25Speaker 3: care for it. And then they should build an arena
- 9:27Speaker 3: next to it and call it Tina Arena Arena.
- 9:31Speaker 1: Hey, I'd be in full support of that.
- 9:33Speaker 3: I love Margaret.
- 9:34Speaker 1: I also love Tina Arena.
- 9:35Speaker 2: But I mean, you know, I mean Wayne Carey is
- 9:37Speaker 2: getting around Mogga Boy.
- 9:38Speaker 3: As well in football. That's so good, that's right.
- 9:40Speaker 2: So it's almost some people get a second chance and
- 9:43Speaker 2: other people don't get a sick that's right.
- 9:45Speaker 3: And I think it often depends on your ratings, your money,
- 9:50Speaker 3: whether or not you've covered it up, whether or not
- 9:52Speaker 3: you're able to you know. I mean, this is the thing.
- 9:54Speaker 3: It seems to me. It is very rarely a morally
- 9:57Speaker 3: pure decision. And again if often it starts with a
- 10:00Speaker 3: bit of sort of you know, vigilanteism or vandalism, and
- 10:03Speaker 3: so often as the council or the body. And we've
- 10:06Speaker 3: seen this in the US with the statues as well,
- 10:08Speaker 3: taking this incredibly moraled and principal decision because it's just
- 10:13Speaker 3: easier because if they don't do it, then they're worried
- 10:15Speaker 3: about this cready coming back.
- 10:16Speaker 4: It's like, oh, while leaving this oval in his name,
- 10:18Speaker 4: you support women bashing. That is a ridiculous equivocation.
- 10:22Speaker 3: Let's go to.
- 10:23Speaker 4: Another renaming of a street, this time in Mullen Bimbi.
- 10:28Speaker 4: It's called Hot and Tot Crescent and this was noticed
- 10:33Speaker 4: by a South African uber driver who told his mate
- 10:37Speaker 4: and they.
- 10:37Speaker 5: Took the council to task on this.
- 10:39Speaker 4: Not the council, actually the Geographical Names Board, who.
- 10:43Speaker 5: Knew that we had one saying this.
- 10:45Speaker 4: Is well was a racial slur back in the day
- 10:49Speaker 4: in South Africa.
- 10:51Speaker 5: You simply cannot keep this name. One of the names
- 10:54Speaker 5: that has.
- 10:55Speaker 4: Been ruled out as a replacement option is Drunken Parrot Play,
- 11:00Speaker 4: so you'll be relieved to know that.
- 11:02Speaker 3: But now I have named it Drunken Irishman Place.
- 11:06Speaker 4: So Johnny Simon's the Byron Bay resident who took this up,
- 11:10Speaker 4: said I grew up under apartheid and I am very
- 11:13Speaker 4: aware of what that name means, because it was a
- 11:16Speaker 4: name my people were called.
- 11:17Speaker 1: It was shortened to hot.
- 11:19Speaker 5: Tot's to make you feel inferior.
- 11:21Speaker 4: Only if you or your family were called those things.
- 11:24Speaker 5: Can you fully understand what it means?
- 11:28Speaker 3: Now?
- 11:28Speaker 4: I'm sure there's no person who reads that and isn't
- 11:31Speaker 4: empathetic to what he's saying. However, the crescent was called
- 11:35Speaker 4: hot and Tot because it has a plant that goes
- 11:38Speaker 4: by the name of hot and Tot, which grows all
- 11:41Speaker 4: along the crescent, hence the name.
- 11:44Speaker 5: So again, I had no.
- 11:46Speaker 3: Idea this was a racial slur.
- 11:48Speaker 1: I I've never heard of it.
- 11:50Speaker 4: If so either, But this is like when we renamed
- 11:52Speaker 4: coon cheese, which had nothing to do with anything indigenous
- 11:56Speaker 4: and everything to do with Edward Kuhn, who came up
- 11:58Speaker 4: with a patent to mature cheese far faster.
- 12:02Speaker 5: Thanks Edward Love, you were sorry about the man.
- 12:05Speaker 4: We renamed Chicko's to Cheeky's. We renamed redskins.
- 12:11Speaker 3: Yes, kids have loly cigarettes.
- 12:18Speaker 2: So the Hot and Top bean tree, I've no doubt
- 12:20Speaker 2: the Hot and Top being ascribed to it probably had
- 12:24Speaker 2: a racial connotation to begin with, But the shottier racky
- 12:28Speaker 2: Patala is the scientific name for the tree. But when
- 12:32Speaker 2: they named the street after the hot and top bean tree,
- 12:36Speaker 2: I don't think.
- 12:36Speaker 1: Anyone was sitting there going, oh boy, let's choose a
- 12:39Speaker 1: racial slur.
- 12:43Speaker 5: Three of us even knew that that was a racial slur.
- 12:46Speaker 5: In any country.
- 12:47Speaker 3: That's what we call the hot water bottles. It is
- 12:50Speaker 3: little hot top to go to bed.
- 12:51Speaker 2: But so we get caught up in these stupid arguments
- 12:55Speaker 2: about oh the streets racist, or we should change the
- 12:59Speaker 2: date of Australia, and all we talk about is surface
- 13:03Speaker 2: level nonsense. Because it feels nice to change it. We
- 13:05Speaker 2: can go, oh, we changed the street name. Look, how
- 13:08Speaker 2: good are we. We've solved racism.
- 13:10Speaker 1: Here in Australia.
- 13:11Speaker 2: And we'll get to Laura Tingle on those matters in
- 13:13Speaker 2: a minute. But you know, it makes people feel lovely
- 13:16Speaker 2: and virtuous because we've done something nice. But is there
- 13:19Speaker 2: a single South African on the face of the planet
- 13:22Speaker 2: who will get up tomorrow morning and go blame me, Charlie?
- 13:25Speaker 2: Can you believe in mullum mimbi they change the name
- 13:28Speaker 2: of Hot and Tot Crescent and our.
- 13:30Speaker 1: Racism is solved. It doesn't work like.
- 13:33Speaker 3: Thatlthough I do love the idea of South African suddenly
- 13:36Speaker 3: talking like alf from home and away, I think that's
- 13:41Speaker 3: that's an absolute squatcher here in joe Burgh.
- 13:45Speaker 2: But I just every time we have one of these things,
- 13:48Speaker 2: I just can't believe that people get so passionate. I mean,
- 13:51Speaker 2: obviously we're passionate about it here pointing out the ridiculousness
- 13:54Speaker 2: of it, but people actually feel so passionate about it
- 13:57Speaker 2: that they will spend hours, days, months campaigning to change
- 14:01Speaker 2: the name of the street when they could have actually
- 14:04Speaker 2: gone out and done something material in terms of.
- 14:07Speaker 4: The bar is so low offence equals changed. This was
- 14:11Speaker 4: two blokes in this instance, and much like Bakoon Cheese episode,
- 14:15Speaker 4: it was never about you.
- 14:17Speaker 5: It was about Edward Coon.
- 14:19Speaker 4: This this crescentce name was never about you.
- 14:23Speaker 5: It was about the plant. Like in the naming of
- 14:28Speaker 5: the shouldn't we go.
- 14:29Speaker 6: To most looks with pure hearts named?
- 14:33Speaker 3: I think I think that this is one of the
- 14:36Speaker 3: clear examples that Laura Tingle was talking about to the
- 14:40Speaker 3: Sydney Writers Festival last Sunday when she said that Australia
- 14:45Speaker 3: is a racist country, always has been, she said, and
- 14:48Speaker 3: now she has doubled down on her comments suggesting Australia
- 14:54Speaker 3: is a racist country. And this comes at the same
- 14:57Speaker 3: time as she's apparently been counseled saying that Australia is
- 15:03Speaker 3: a racist country. So justin sevens the ABC News buster
- 15:06Speaker 3: says she's very very sorry, she regrets it terribly. I
- 15:08Speaker 3: don't put out a statement saying we're all very sorry.
- 15:10Speaker 3: It was a terrible mistake. She shouldn't have said it.
- 15:12Speaker 3: Then Laura Tingle releases a statement the size of a
- 15:15Speaker 3: quarterly essay. It was basically basically detailing why she was
- 15:23Speaker 3: perfectly within her rights to say it and why she's
- 15:27Speaker 3: a racist country, listing all these examples of how racis
- 15:29Speaker 3: is and how terrible Peter Dutton was for you know,
- 15:32Speaker 3: dog whistling apparently allegedly in his budget reply speech, and
- 15:35Speaker 3: even said and this is what takes the cake for me.
- 15:40Speaker 3: Even raised in her statement the anti semitism angle. So
- 15:46Speaker 3: she said, after all, the Australian has been saying for
- 15:50Speaker 3: months about all these all these anti Semitic actions that
- 15:54Speaker 3: have been sweeping through the country. So she's actually turned
- 15:58Speaker 3: it back. She hasn't herself said that anti semitism was
- 16:01Speaker 3: one of the examples of racism that she was raising,
- 16:04Speaker 3: because imagine if she'd said that the Sydney writers that
- 16:07Speaker 3: might have in all Australia a racist country. On mass
- 16:11Speaker 3: Oh that's fine every because yeah, like that anti semitism,
- 16:14Speaker 3: what you sire? That's big dog you fashion. So it's
- 16:19Speaker 3: just a bizarre situation where again, you know, there's like
- 16:24Speaker 3: I don't think there is any actual awareness of what
- 16:28Speaker 3: people are upset about or what they find so kind
- 16:31Speaker 3: of I don't know, not offensives, I don't like the
- 16:33Speaker 3: whole offense utresting, but just so out of touch and
- 16:36Speaker 3: out of step with mainstream Australian values. Anyway. This is
- 16:40Speaker 3: what Peter Dutton had to say about it on two
- 16:41Speaker 3: GB this morning.
- 16:43Speaker 7: Laura Tinkles outed herself now as somebody who is a
- 16:46Speaker 7: part of san She's a green slash labor supporter, she
- 16:51Speaker 7: is political in nature, and therefore her credibility as a
- 16:56Speaker 7: journalist really is shot.
- 16:59Speaker 3: Which is exactly what you'd expect a racist to say.
- 17:03Speaker 1: Confirmation Confirmation.
- 17:06Speaker 3: It blows my mind, I mean, because this is because
- 17:10Speaker 3: this is the stuff, this is where not only this
- 17:12Speaker 3: because it gets my goat, because this is where someone
- 17:14Speaker 3: who is for the kind of sensible center left and
- 17:17Speaker 3: everyone to focus on real issues instead of this stupid, dumb,
- 17:21Speaker 3: kind of inner city preoccupation. Let's not forget that the
- 17:23Speaker 3: only racist scenario Laura Tingle imagined from the budget reply
- 17:28Speaker 3: speech she was so upset by occurred in her own head.
- 17:31Speaker 3: The only racist thoughts were in her own head as
- 17:34Speaker 3: she was imagining all this racism that was being unleashed.
- 17:37Speaker 3: And I agree with her analysis on the migration policy.
- 17:39Speaker 3: I don't think Peter Dunton is right on migration, but
- 17:41Speaker 3: do I think that is racist just for raising it, Well.
- 17:43Speaker 2: It's going to cause people to rock up to you know,
- 17:46Speaker 2: open inspections and just start abusing people on mass.
- 17:49Speaker 4: Seventy five percent of Australians do agree with Dunnan on
- 17:52Speaker 4: the immigration policy and saying yes, we need more clamp
- 17:56Speaker 4: down on this right now. It's ridiculous million rather arriving
- 18:02Speaker 4: in the country just last year. We simply can't accommodate this.
- 18:06Speaker 4: Dutton was simply making the point, Yes, it is impacting housing,
- 18:10Speaker 4: it is impacting traffic, et cetera, and so on.
- 18:12Speaker 5: How could it not so?
- 18:14Speaker 4: The ABC wheel out managing director David Anderson to know
- 18:19Speaker 4: unruffle the ruffled feathers. Here he is today at the
- 18:22Speaker 4: Senate Environment and Communications Legislation Committee, basically saying, look, she's
- 18:28Speaker 4: not going to be stood down from work or the board.
- 18:31Speaker 1: We've sorted it.
- 18:33Speaker 8: A mature nation, regardless of political views, should be able
- 18:37Speaker 8: to discuss such issues in a respectful and intelligent way.
- 18:41Speaker 8: The ABC's role and the work of our journalist light
- 18:44Speaker 8: miss Tingle, is to help facilitate those debates on our platforms. Finally,
- 18:49Speaker 8: Miss Tingle does not deserve the ferocity and frankly vicious
- 18:52Speaker 8: attacks that we've seen this week.
- 18:54Speaker 1: So vicious, so vicious.
- 18:56Speaker 3: She can't handle it.
- 18:57Speaker 5: No, and neither can we.
- 18:59Speaker 4: I don't know why they got him to go to
- 19:02Speaker 4: this Senate committee because the entire.
- 19:04Speaker 1: Thing he was so piss week.
- 19:06Speaker 4: There was a quick apology and all the rest of
- 19:09Speaker 4: it was blaming news Court for like highlighting this and
- 19:14Speaker 4: made it a news Court fee.
- 19:16Speaker 3: You can't do anything about Layd Tingle. They can't get
- 19:18Speaker 3: rid of it. There will be an open revolution. The
- 19:20Speaker 3: staff would revolt and the friends of the ABC type
- 19:23Speaker 3: so were also whiter than a polar bear at a
- 19:25Speaker 3: snow store, saw a picture of them recently, I was
- 19:27Speaker 3: just trying to find anyone who was just a less
- 19:30Speaker 3: wider shild of pale. But he can't. That would be
- 19:33Speaker 3: an open revolt, because you know, that's how the ABC runs.
- 19:36Speaker 3: And I'd said last night that you know, if you
- 19:38Speaker 3: go go to Twitter, guarantee tens of thousands of people
- 19:41Speaker 3: Laura Tingle was trending. I think it was the number
- 19:43Speaker 3: one trending topic. It was something like when I happened
- 19:46Speaker 3: to look at it, like fourteen thousand mentions or something
- 19:48Speaker 3: like this. This is just going crazy. And this is
- 19:52Speaker 3: the sort of thing that inner city left are just
- 19:54Speaker 3: obsessed with. I've never seen homelessness or poverty get that
- 19:58Speaker 3: kind of.
- 19:58Speaker 1: Oh what a surprise.
- 20:00Speaker 2: And Anderson went on today about impartiality because he was
- 20:03Speaker 2: asked about whether, of course, all of this affects the
- 20:05Speaker 2: impartiality of Laura Tingle, and he said that it did
- 20:08Speaker 2: not affect Laura Tingle's impartiality, but it had threatened the
- 20:12Speaker 2: impartiality of the ABC.
- 20:14Speaker 1: How do you reconcile that.
- 20:16Speaker 2: I mean, the woman whose mouth the words came out of, No, no, no,
- 20:20Speaker 2: that's fine, there's nothing wrong with her impartiality. But the
- 20:23Speaker 2: ABC has been heard by the whole thing, and then
- 20:25Speaker 2: Sarah Hansen Young was going on about, oh you know
- 20:28Speaker 2: what do we see this massive pile on this week?
- 20:30Speaker 2: It's News Corp digging the heels into the ABC. The
- 20:34Speaker 2: point is, it's not about News Corp, it's not about
- 20:37Speaker 2: the Sydney Morning Herald, it's not about any publication in particular.
- 20:40Speaker 2: What it is about is that a person who is
- 20:44Speaker 2: very high up at the ABC. Not only is she
- 20:46Speaker 2: the chief political correspondent on seven point thirty, she's also
- 20:50Speaker 2: the staff elected board member on the ABC board, so
- 20:54Speaker 2: she is a director of the outfit as well as
- 20:57Speaker 2: one of its best known reporters, comes out and says
- 21:01Speaker 2: the country I live in is racist, by which she
- 21:05Speaker 2: besmirches all Australians and says, well, you're all terrible, except
- 21:09Speaker 2: of course for the people who watch seven thirty every night,
- 21:12Speaker 2: because they are a different class of person. What she
- 21:15Speaker 2: is saying is that all the people in my little bubble.
- 21:17Speaker 2: And of course, you know she went along to the
- 21:19Speaker 2: Sydney Ratis Festival.
- 21:20Speaker 1: She probably felt like.
- 21:21Speaker 2: She was sitting in the drawing room of one of
- 21:23Speaker 2: her socialist friends in the Eastern Suburbs, where they can
- 21:26Speaker 2: safely sip champagne and talk about things without being overheard.
- 21:30Speaker 1: That's why she felt comfortable to say it.
- 21:33Speaker 2: But what she is saying is that people like you
- 21:35Speaker 2: who watch Sky News, who don't live in the inner city,
- 21:39Speaker 2: you know, maybe you live in the suburbs, maybe you
- 21:42Speaker 2: even live out in the country, often very successfully in
- 21:46Speaker 2: high migrant population areas. You are the racist people, not
- 21:51Speaker 2: the enclaves where I live that are full of white people.
- 21:54Speaker 1: That is the point of what she was saying. And
- 21:57Speaker 1: the fact that.
- 21:58Speaker 2: Anderson sat there and sort of no, nothing to worry about.
- 22:02Speaker 1: We haven't heard from the chair.
- 22:04Speaker 2: Kim Williams not a peep, and he famously said when
- 22:08Speaker 2: he got the job as chair that you know, if
- 22:10Speaker 2: you can't adhere to impartiality at the ABC, it's time
- 22:14Speaker 2: for you to go.
- 22:14Speaker 1: And that's a word from him.
- 22:16Speaker 3: Now the thing. I spoke to a friend of mine
- 22:18Speaker 3: who was at the thing, and just no one thought
- 22:20Speaker 3: that had the slightest issue with anything said. No one
- 22:22Speaker 3: even noticed that she said anything festival or controversial, because
- 22:27Speaker 3: everyone in that room they didn't think they were being
- 22:31Speaker 3: impartial or biased. They thought that it was a simple,
- 22:34Speaker 3: uncontestable facts, just like the sky is blue. Australia is
- 22:38Speaker 3: racist and that's how they think. And we are getting
- 22:40Speaker 3: and again we are sort of in this post truth
- 22:42Speaker 3: world now, which is scary but you know, unavoidable, it seems,
- 22:46Speaker 3: where no one can actually agree on what impartiality is.
- 22:50Speaker 3: So she and again this has shown and this I
- 22:52Speaker 3: suppose to what I'm trying to get, This has shown
- 22:54Speaker 3: Laura Tingle statement. She says, well, no, I was just
- 22:56Speaker 3: stating the facts. I was just stating the truth. And
- 22:58Speaker 3: you know what you can say if you want to
- 22:59Speaker 3: just say, well, if a country is racist because it
- 23:03Speaker 3: has some racist in it, or there are some things
- 23:05Speaker 3: that are racist that have happened in its history, or
- 23:09Speaker 3: that there are you know, things that have been you
- 23:11Speaker 3: know that some races are not doing as well as
- 23:14Speaker 3: others in the country, then yes, you can absolutely make
- 23:18Speaker 3: the case and say for a fact that Australia is racist.
- 23:20Speaker 3: And you know what other country is racist? All of them,
- 23:24Speaker 3: every single one. Because there's not a single country in
- 23:29Speaker 3: which everyone lives free from discrimination. There is no single
- 23:32Speaker 3: country with a clean sheet of history where no racism
- 23:34Speaker 3: has ever been practiced. And that is not just the
- 23:37Speaker 3: white European countries. There's not just the colonial powers. That
- 23:40Speaker 3: includes China, Japan, India, the US, Brazil, you name it.
- 23:45Speaker 3: They're all racist. They were even keeping they were keeping
- 23:48Speaker 3: slaves right up until I think the twentieth century in
- 23:53Speaker 3: some parts of the world. Not the British Empire, I'll
- 23:56Speaker 3: have you know. I'm want to check a few others.
- 23:58Speaker 3: So again, it seems so strange that you would know
- 24:02Speaker 3: all this. And I respect people just don't know it.
- 24:04Speaker 3: They don't know their history, they don't know their geography,
- 24:06Speaker 3: but that someone could just say, oh, yes, I just
- 24:09Speaker 3: see this thing happening with me in front of Australia
- 24:12Speaker 3: in twenty twenty four. Australia is so racist, like if
- 24:16Speaker 3: it is just such a stupid and ignorant and lazy comment.
- 24:21Speaker 3: And everyone I've spoken to, including you know, all my
- 24:23Speaker 3: friends on the LEFTO, are just going, why do these
- 24:25Speaker 3: people keep doing it? They did it in the Voice
- 24:27Speaker 3: debate constantly, and that is why we lost, because they
- 24:30Speaker 3: were just saying, well, the no vote's just racist or
- 24:33Speaker 3: they're just appealing to racism. Why they're just And again
- 24:35Speaker 3: you can run the numbers on that result, and if
- 24:38Speaker 3: the no vote is racist, then the most racist people
- 24:41Speaker 3: in the country are migrants. The most racist people in
- 24:45Speaker 3: the country are foreigners people who have come from overseas,
- 24:49Speaker 3: and the least racist people are all the people who
- 24:52Speaker 3: voted yes. We assume, so what is the most likely
- 24:56Speaker 3: to make you not racist? Being rich and white who
- 25:00Speaker 3: fundamentally position.
- 25:03Speaker 1: What the no vote.
- 25:04Speaker 4: Proved is that we are a nation who doesn't care
- 25:08Speaker 4: about being called racist, because it was at nauseam ran
- 25:11Speaker 4: down our throats. If you vote yes, rather if you
- 25:14Speaker 4: vote no, you are a racist.
- 25:17Speaker 5: Well, the last majority of us didn't care.
- 25:20Speaker 4: To Queensland now, where Premier Stephen Miles is pulling out
- 25:23Speaker 4: the stops because he's got an election to win and
- 25:26Speaker 4: he kind of at this point knows he won't. But
- 25:30Speaker 4: here he is telling us today that twelve. The reason
- 25:33Speaker 4: why we're not getting a new stadium is I've basically
- 25:36Speaker 4: spoken to absolutely every Queenslander and they said they don't
- 25:40Speaker 4: want it.
- 25:42Speaker 9: I spend every single day out in Queensland talking to Queenslander's,
- 25:46Speaker 9: hearing from them what they think, and if they wanted
- 25:50Speaker 9: a new three and a half billion dollar stadium, they
- 25:52Speaker 9: would have told me that. I can assure you that
- 25:55Speaker 9: they did not. What Queenslanders tell me is they want
- 25:58Speaker 9: support with the cost of living. They want energy rebates,
- 26:01Speaker 9: thousand dollars energy rebates, they want fifty cent public transport fares.
- 26:06Speaker 3: They want support for them now.
- 26:09Speaker 9: And the only people running around town behind closed doors
- 26:13Speaker 9: telling people that they will build that stadium is the LMP.
- 26:17Speaker 9: I can assure you that I've listened to Queenslanders and
- 26:21Speaker 9: I am making sure that we spend that money on
- 26:23Speaker 9: them and not on a stadium.
- 26:26Speaker 4: Except that the Olympics is still coming, okay, and you've
- 26:30Speaker 4: got to have the game somewhere.
- 26:32Speaker 5: Mate.
- 26:32Speaker 6: Your predecessor won the tender, got the gig, big celebration,
- 26:39Speaker 6: what a legend, and nobody's doing anything about it.
- 26:44Speaker 4: At this point, Chris of Fooley must be like, I'm
- 26:47Speaker 4: not sure if I do want to win the election,
- 26:50Speaker 4: because it will mean that the LMP have just seven
- 26:53Speaker 4: years to get this thing off the ground, because the
- 26:57Speaker 4: games are arriving regardless. Whereas his attitude is clearly well,
- 27:03Speaker 4: I've got an a lection.
- 27:05Speaker 3: They've got that old hockey field just a couple of
- 27:07Speaker 3: hours coach ride from me, exactly USAK, but I love there.
- 27:12Speaker 5: Can you believe he's got a PhD in philosophy?
- 27:15Speaker 2: I think he's got a PhD In having the quivers,
- 27:17Speaker 2: because every time you look at him, he always seems
- 27:19Speaker 2: like he's got a game. But I just love this
- 27:22Speaker 2: whole thing about Well, you know, it's either raw. You
- 27:24Speaker 2: can either have the stadium or you can have the
- 27:27Speaker 2: cost of living relief. Now, buddy, why don't you call
- 27:30Speaker 2: up your mates down in Victoria where they're spending what
- 27:33Speaker 2: is a two hundred billion dollars on the suburban rail
- 27:36Speaker 2: loop or something, right, I mean, they are throwing around
- 27:38Speaker 2: big bucks down there, and admittedly they are going broke.
- 27:41Speaker 2: I mean, you know, two and a half billion dollars
- 27:44Speaker 2: two hundred billion dollars is.
- 27:45Speaker 1: A lot of money.
- 27:46Speaker 2: Put three point five billion dollars to build a stadium, which,
- 27:49Speaker 2: by the way, Miles commissioned a report to tell him
- 27:53Speaker 2: what bits they should and shouldn't do, what they should
- 27:56Speaker 2: and shouldn't build for the Olympics.
- 27:58Speaker 1: Of course, they paid for that report.
- 28:00Speaker 2: Report then came back and he said yes to all
- 28:02Speaker 2: the recommendations except the biggest recommendation, which.
- 28:06Speaker 1: Was build a new stadium. No, no, I don't like that.
- 28:11Speaker 3: He commissioned another report after he endorsed the first report.
- 28:14Speaker 3: He commissioned another report that came back and said no,
- 28:17Speaker 3: the first report was wrong, and he said, oh, okay,
- 28:19Speaker 3: but it is our report.
- 28:22Speaker 1: Government absolutely insane.
- 28:23Speaker 2: The idea that you can't have fifty cent public transport
- 28:27Speaker 2: if you have an Olympic stadium is just absolute nonsense.
- 28:30Speaker 2: What's going to happen when all these people rock up
- 28:32Speaker 2: for the Olympics from all over the world and they're
- 28:35Speaker 2: going to.
- 28:35Speaker 3: Go the best hockey game of their lives, We're going
- 28:39Speaker 3: to have to ship out. If you're looking for advice
- 28:43Speaker 3: on how to put on a major international sporting event,
- 28:45Speaker 3: I'm not sure if the Victorian government, well we know what.
- 28:49Speaker 3: I think we might be seeing a similar trick here.
- 28:52Speaker 8: Oh.
- 28:52Speaker 3: I've just commissioned a third report and it turns out
- 28:55Speaker 3: the Olympics are much more expensive than it told we
- 28:58Speaker 3: were lied to. Can you believe that? And so now,
- 29:01Speaker 3: in the interest of Queenslanders, I'm going to do something,
- 29:04Speaker 3: not because it's popular, but because it's the right thing
- 29:06Speaker 3: to do. Oh, we're going to cancel the Olympics. And
- 29:09Speaker 3: then we're going to cancel Christmas.
- 29:11Speaker 2: God help us. I hope it never happens. While we're
- 29:13Speaker 2: on matters of sport, the NRL has managed to secure
- 29:17Speaker 2: a team in Papua New Guinea and for that the
- 29:19Speaker 2: taxpayers of Australia are going to stump up six hundred
- 29:23Speaker 2: million dollars.
- 29:24Speaker 3: They look like they're stadium exactly.
- 29:27Speaker 2: They've been looking to get an eighteenth license into the
- 29:30Speaker 2: game and there's been talk. Of course, there's a lot
- 29:32Speaker 2: of the players who of course are involved in the
- 29:35Speaker 2: NRL are Pacific Islanders, et cetera. So they were looking
- 29:39Speaker 2: to expand into a new market. It's good for the
- 29:41Speaker 2: NRL because of course it's a new TV market, it creates.
- 29:44Speaker 1: New hubbub over there.
- 29:46Speaker 2: But the taxpayer, of course, because Peter Velandi, who is
- 29:49Speaker 2: the Chairman of the NRL Commission also the CEO of
- 29:53Speaker 2: Racing New South Wales, has to be the most effective
- 29:57Speaker 2: sports administrator in the country.
- 30:00Speaker 1: Take note next time.
- 30:01Speaker 2: You hear reported in the news a story about the
- 30:04Speaker 2: NRL and they refer to Peter Vilandi's as the NRL boss.
- 30:08Speaker 1: He's not the NRL boss. He's the chairman.
- 30:11Speaker 2: There is actually a CEO, his name's Andrew Abdo, but
- 30:14Speaker 2: they call Peter Viland he's the boss because he's that
- 30:18Speaker 2: damn good at his job and he's managed to extract
- 30:21Speaker 2: six hundred million dollars from Anthony alban Easy to get
- 30:24Speaker 2: this thing up and going.
- 30:25Speaker 1: So Steven Miles, oh.
- 30:26Speaker 2: He can't have a stadium, but Anthony Albernezi is more
- 30:29Speaker 2: than happy, especially the cash around. Perhaps Miles should get
- 30:31Speaker 2: on the phone to his mate Anthony alban Easy and
- 30:34Speaker 2: ask for some money to build a stadium. But I
- 30:36Speaker 2: think there's probably something else at play here, because because
- 30:41Speaker 2: we love a bit of soft diplomacy, right and we
- 30:45Speaker 2: have to do it. We have to do some form
- 30:46Speaker 2: of diplomacy through these Pacific nations, because if we don't
- 30:50Speaker 2: give them six hundred million dollars, China gives them six
- 30:53Speaker 2: hundred million dollars.
- 30:54Speaker 1: In fact, China gives them a billion dollars two billion,
- 30:57Speaker 1: three billion, four billion.
- 30:58Speaker 2: Can tell Mestai thing, you tell me, I'll write the
- 31:02Speaker 2: check and I'll.
- 31:02Speaker 1: Hand it over to you.
- 31:03Speaker 2: And then, of course at some point China comes knocking
- 31:06Speaker 2: on the door and says, some remember the four billion
- 31:09Speaker 2: dollars we gave you, We'd like a favor back. So
- 31:12Speaker 2: we go around throwing money around in the hopes that
- 31:15Speaker 2: we'll be able to counter this sort of Chinese fence.
- 31:19Speaker 3: But China can't give them the NRL thow. China can't
- 31:21Speaker 3: give them a footy. And that's why this is a
- 31:22Speaker 3: good deal.
- 31:23Speaker 4: Firstly, China can just stump up with any number of
- 31:27Speaker 4: better deals. The building ransom by our neighbors. We're constantly
- 31:34Speaker 4: all this foreign aid or whatever we want to label it.
- 31:37Speaker 4: In this case, it's six hundred milli lives. It's like
- 31:43Speaker 4: we're being held to ransom, like please like us more
- 31:45Speaker 4: than China. That didn't work out in the Solomon Islands.
- 31:48Speaker 4: They were like, thanks for all your money and support
- 31:51Speaker 4: over the years. We're just giving these guys grounds right
- 31:54Speaker 4: under your nose anyway. So the bottom line is, no
- 31:58Speaker 4: matter how many like little sweet treats we give these neighbors,
- 32:03Speaker 4: China has deeper pockets and they are always going to
- 32:07Speaker 4: find a way to make even a six hundred million
- 32:11Speaker 4: dollar NRL team look like small.
- 32:14Speaker 5: Look they can offer.
- 32:16Speaker 3: There's a bit in that. And obviously, you know, we
- 32:18Speaker 3: are in something of a diplomatic bidding war with China,
- 32:20Speaker 3: and that is just how international primacy has always worked.
- 32:23Speaker 3: I mean, how do you think cities win the Olympics
- 32:25Speaker 3: in the first place. They do it by you know,
- 32:27Speaker 3: well at least in the good old days. They do
- 32:29Speaker 3: it by, you know, slapping on a seven course dinner
- 32:31Speaker 3: and line in the pockets of the IOC people who
- 32:33Speaker 3: are going to visit. Can't get your mistakes. A bit
- 32:35Speaker 3: of lobster to wash that down with. But the difference
- 32:39Speaker 3: between US and China can give them money, yes, but
- 32:41Speaker 3: it cannot give them the footy. So we can bring
- 32:43Speaker 3: the we can bring PMNG into the NRL shure.
- 32:46Speaker 1: They take both, and.
- 32:48Speaker 3: That builds, and that builds closer, but that builds close
- 32:50Speaker 3: to tires. That makes them feel hopefully more loyal to us.
- 32:53Speaker 3: The same with the other Pacific Island nations. They trust
- 32:55Speaker 3: us well, even though they take the China money, they
- 32:58Speaker 3: trust us more and they like us more, and we
- 33:00Speaker 3: have more really connections, connections, that's right. And so the
- 33:05Speaker 3: Solomoni is obviously dealing both sides of their talking out
- 33:08Speaker 3: of both sides. Now, yeah, yeah, that's right. But that's
- 33:12Speaker 3: you know, that's what happens. And they're going to play
- 33:14Speaker 3: players off against That's what I'm saying.
- 33:17Speaker 5: Deals with these guys like, are we friends?
- 33:19Speaker 3: We still need to make sure that Solomon Islands doesn't
- 33:23Speaker 3: become a Beijing port. But we have to make sure that.
- 33:26Speaker 5: By giving them an L team we haven't.
- 33:30Speaker 3: We already sorted them out, and with PJ we have
- 33:33Speaker 3: and we will.
- 33:34Speaker 2: I think the biggest problem is that we're sending them
- 33:36Speaker 2: the n r L. Why aren't we sending them the
- 33:38Speaker 2: greatest game in the country, which is Aussie Rules.
- 33:41Speaker 1: That's what they should be playing.
- 33:43Speaker 2: Don't insult their masculinity, all, come on, they should be
- 33:47Speaker 2: Look rugby league. They run forwards and then they pass
- 33:52Speaker 2: the ball backwards, and you want to talk about masculinity
- 33:55Speaker 2: in airfield there it's rough and tumbled, big tacklesknocking people over.
- 34:01Speaker 2: Eterial ping pole.
- 34:04Speaker 3: Is nothing but knocking people over. Half the time, they
- 34:06Speaker 3: don't even know where the ball is, but.
- 34:07Speaker 2: They're just mindlessly charging at each other, whereas in the
- 34:10Speaker 2: avil there's a bit of skill.
- 34:13Speaker 3: They're tough, they're strong, they're just made of muscley.
- 34:17Speaker 4: This has just evolved into sports talk, which is highly
- 34:20Speaker 4: boring if you're like me, which I'm sure you all are.
- 34:24Speaker 4: Elegant refined farm Anyway, enough of that to the city
- 34:29Speaker 4: of Victoria now, and not the one you're thinking of.
- 34:33Speaker 5: This is in British Columbia.
- 34:34Speaker 4: When I first came across this news article today, I was.
- 34:37Speaker 5: Like, Oh, Victoria's done it again. For once, It's not them.
- 34:42Speaker 4: They have tweeted today we join efforts to reduce the
- 34:46Speaker 4: stigma around periods and work toward minstrel equitique.
- 34:50Speaker 5: Someone explained what that is.
- 34:52Speaker 4: City hall will light up red and display the period flag.
- 34:56Speaker 4: Who knew that existed on our community flag poll.
- 35:00Speaker 5: I don't even know what that hashtag.
- 35:02Speaker 4: Stands for, so essentially menstrual equity means I don't know
- 35:08Speaker 4: the same menstrual rights for everyone, including of course trans women.
- 35:15Speaker 5: That's where they're going with this.
- 35:17Speaker 4: Well, the twitter sphere was popping with rage. These tweets
- 35:22Speaker 4: will make you laugh. Women assist wrote, for whom do
- 35:26Speaker 4: you want menstrual equality? You've managed to erase us females
- 35:31Speaker 4: in this post. Half of the population, the women and
- 35:36Speaker 4: girls who men straight. JK Rowling, who is absolutely based
- 35:41Speaker 4: when it comes to this topic, also chimed in. She
- 35:44Speaker 4: said people who men straight. I'm sure there used to
- 35:47Speaker 4: be a word for those people. Someone helped me out
- 35:50Speaker 4: woman wimpun womud. Some guy online wrote, you guys should
- 35:56Speaker 4: do this one same mom. I mean, these fascical nature
- 36:02Speaker 4: of this kind of nonsense that a city council anywhere
- 36:07Speaker 4: in the world thinks this is worth lighting up their
- 36:10Speaker 4: buildings for when we've got like bombs dropping, we've got
- 36:15Speaker 4: any number of issues happening in our world. This is
- 36:18Speaker 4: the cause that you want to take up trans men who,
- 36:21Speaker 4: according to you, menstruate and they need menstrual equity.
- 36:25Speaker 3: Is that the stigma around periods that they're talking about to.
- 36:28Speaker 5: Think that Goodness knows.
- 36:29Speaker 3: That men who menstruate face stigmatization.
- 36:34Speaker 5: They need the equity.
- 36:35Speaker 2: Look that there are some days I just wake up
- 36:37Speaker 2: and I'm like, can you just fire me into the
- 36:39Speaker 2: sun astroid? If I lived in British Columbia, in the
- 36:43Speaker 2: city of Victoria, I'd certainly be saying that right now.
- 36:46Speaker 2: I'd just like to know what the period flag looks like.
- 36:48Speaker 2: If anyone knows what it looks like, please write to me,
- 36:51Speaker 2: because I've never seen it in my life before. After
- 36:53Speaker 2: the break, we'll get into the papers, and sticking on
- 36:56Speaker 2: the theme of dodgy councils, we'll tell you about the
- 36:58Speaker 2: mayor who.
- 37:00Speaker 1: During his campaign he blamed it on concussion.
- 37:03Speaker 3: Who knew.
- 37:04Speaker 2: After break, all right, let's get into some good old
- 37:09Speaker 2: fashioned council bashing. Liz, you've got the courier mark, the
- 37:12Speaker 2: Courier mail.
- 37:13Speaker 4: It's not going to disappoint when it comes to council bashing. Mayor.
- 37:17Speaker 1: I lied to the voters, tell us more.
- 37:21Speaker 4: Townsville's embattled mayor is facing fresh allegations of deception, conceding
- 37:26Speaker 4: he misled voters on his education, business now and army career,
- 37:32Speaker 4: blaming quote one hundred plus end quote concussions for his
- 37:37Speaker 4: poor memory. So this guy, Troy Thompson has apologized to
- 37:41Speaker 4: veterans for embellishing his military service on national TV no less,
- 37:46Speaker 4: and he's now admitted that he never finished university, despite
- 37:51Speaker 4: the fact that before.
- 37:52Speaker 5: The election he claimed to have two degrees. So he
- 37:57Speaker 5: was concussed. You got, I mean on.
- 38:00Speaker 3: Concussion doesn't make you forget things. It inserts false memories,
- 38:07Speaker 3: clearly does. Clearly ninety nine you only get one university degree?
- 38:13Speaker 3: Got true.
- 38:16Speaker 2: I didn't know that delusions of grandeur were a known
- 38:19Speaker 2: symptoms like total recall after one hundred concussions.
- 38:24Speaker 1: How is the dude even able to.
- 38:25Speaker 5: Stay if anyone's believing that one hundred can.
- 38:28Speaker 2: Surely surely he's lied again either he is the unluckiest
- 38:32Speaker 2: footy player of all time. Like, I don't think even
- 38:35Speaker 2: Polypharmer when they cut his brain open after he carped
- 38:38Speaker 2: it and they found he had CT, I don't think
- 38:41Speaker 2: even he would have had one hundred concussions from back
- 38:43Speaker 2: in there.
- 38:43Speaker 3: Actually, I've just got some breaking years. The mayor has
- 38:46Speaker 3: just issued a second statement clarifying that he now says
- 38:50Speaker 3: it was in fact fifty concussions. He misremembered it because
- 38:53Speaker 3: he had twenty five.
- 38:57Speaker 2: The fact that and this is the quality of people
- 39:00Speaker 2: get elected to go yeah right, yeah, because you have
- 39:03Speaker 2: I don't know what the arrangements are up in Queensland,
- 39:05Speaker 2: whether it's compulsory voting or not, but you just get these.
- 39:08Speaker 3: Culsory for it.
- 39:10Speaker 1: Compulstery. Well, actually that would be a better excuse.
- 39:12Speaker 2: Actually if he just said, look I had a few
- 39:15Speaker 2: too many four xes, I forgot what was going on.
- 39:17Speaker 2: I was drunk at the time, that would actually be
- 39:19Speaker 2: totally believe.
- 39:20Speaker 3: I also out of my mind at Uni. I don't
- 39:22Speaker 3: even know if I got my degree.
- 39:26Speaker 1: Might believe we do.
- 39:27Speaker 3: Now onto a real newspaper. No, Corey is good. The
- 39:31Speaker 3: Daily Telegraph, the Mighty Daily Telegraph in Sydney, I say
- 39:34Speaker 3: that with all the impartiality of Laura Tingle, but it
- 39:39Speaker 3: has gone with ditch him. I wonder what that could
- 39:42Speaker 3: mean by that. Albows and z deal on crim's piles
- 39:45Speaker 3: on pressure to dump Giles dragged into a visa debacle
- 39:51Speaker 3: with accusations he prioritized the wishes of New Zealand over
- 39:55Speaker 3: Australian's safety. Anthony Albanesi is under increasing pressure to embattled
- 40:01Speaker 3: Immigration Minister Andrew Giles. The Prime Minister has rejected claims
- 40:05Speaker 3: he was lobbied by former New Zealand leader Sindra Adern
- 40:09Speaker 3: to put in place a migration directive. It spared dozens
- 40:12Speaker 3: of foreign criminals from deportation, but the coalition has argued
- 40:15Speaker 3: someone in government still has to quote pay a price
- 40:19Speaker 3: for the debacle. The golden rule of politics. Someone has
- 40:23Speaker 3: to go. They need a dead body. Make sure it's
- 40:26Speaker 3: not yours. Sam Giles, off your guard.
- 40:29Speaker 1: He ought to go. I mean he has to go.
- 40:31Speaker 2: As I said on Credlin earlier this evening, you know,
- 40:35Speaker 2: it started out as a joke and then it became
- 40:37Speaker 2: a sick.
- 40:38Speaker 1: When was it a joke? And now it is beyond
- 40:40Speaker 1: a joke?
- 40:41Speaker 4: When was it?
- 40:42Speaker 2: Because and the only problem with sacking Giles, which needs
- 40:46Speaker 2: to happen.
- 40:47Speaker 4: Is that there's that's one problem.
- 40:50Speaker 2: But the Prime Minister was inextrictly linked to this decision
- 40:53Speaker 2: being made, so he can sacrifice the man, but he
- 40:57Speaker 2: doesn't change the nuts and bolts of the thing.
- 40:59Speaker 3: Is the PM can say, listen, can you just put
- 41:01Speaker 3: in a thing saying, you know, telling you know, people
- 41:03Speaker 3: to take ties to Australia into consideration, right, And that's
- 41:06Speaker 3: a pretty reasonable thing to do in assessing any visa
- 41:08Speaker 3: cancelation of visa.
- 41:09Speaker 4: Normally talking about criminals, no, I don't care if you're founding.
- 41:13Speaker 3: This is the thing they all they had to do
- 41:15Speaker 3: was do by Albo has since said they're going to
- 41:17Speaker 3: do it. We'd say, but no, no, no, that doesn't
- 41:18Speaker 3: apply to people who are rapists or domestic abuses or
- 41:23Speaker 3: killers or whatever. And again it reminds me of when
- 41:25Speaker 3: my mum we had we had these two kittens who
- 41:29Speaker 3: had found a little spot in our backyard and one
- 41:31Speaker 3: had come in and we called him Midnight. He was
- 41:33Speaker 3: a very brave one. We later called him I think, yeah,
- 41:35Speaker 3: the Midnight. And then there was another kitten that was
- 41:37Speaker 3: much more shy, and my mom said to my mum's
- 41:40Speaker 3: special friend Don, can you we need to catch we
- 41:44Speaker 3: need to catch the other. We need to catch the
- 41:46Speaker 3: other kitten. Is you think of a way to catch it?
- 41:49Speaker 3: And Don goes, yeah, leave it with me, Chris, if
- 41:51Speaker 3: sort it out, blah blah ahah. And so next night
- 41:55Speaker 3: she goes, how are you going, you know? And Don goes, yeah,
- 41:57Speaker 3: I've set up a trap for it. It's right here.
- 41:59Speaker 3: What do you think? And my mum looks at it
- 42:01Speaker 3: and it's like a It's like a death trap. It's
- 42:04Speaker 3: like a snare because Don, we just want to we
- 42:08Speaker 3: just want to capture and take it in. We don't
- 42:10Speaker 3: want to kill it. And Don says, well, Chris, you
- 42:13Speaker 3: should have been more specific. And it's like, who assumes
- 42:18Speaker 3: that you want to kill a kitten? Well that's the
- 42:21Speaker 3: thing like that says oh yeah, Prime Minister, I'll go
- 42:25Speaker 3: and do that. And he goes off and says that,
- 42:26Speaker 3: you know, ties to Australia is more important than than
- 42:30Speaker 3: gim me criminal activity. And that is what it says.
- 42:33Speaker 3: I went and actually looked at the thing. It actually
- 42:35Speaker 3: says your ties to Australia have to be prioritized. I
- 42:38Speaker 3: were dealing with Yeah, insane.
- 42:41Speaker 2: Well, look anyway, I'm glad we've heard about your mum's
- 42:43Speaker 2: special friend Donny.
- 42:44Speaker 3: We never got that other kid.
- 42:46Speaker 1: He travails with the pussies.
- 42:48Speaker 2: Let's go to the Australian now where it says tomorrow,
- 42:52Speaker 2: UNI Sydney loses its faculties. Professor teaches hamas mass rapes
- 42:57Speaker 2: were a hoax.
- 42:58Speaker 1: I was going to say, can you believe it? But
- 43:00Speaker 1: you can believe it.
- 43:02Speaker 2: A University of Sydney professor has told first year students
- 43:04Speaker 2: that Hamas's mass rapes and sexual violence on October seven
- 43:08Speaker 2: were fake news and a hoax peddled by the media,
- 43:12Speaker 2: and that Israel had engaged in ethnic cleansing propped up
- 43:16Speaker 2: by Western governments that had quote repressed domestic descent. Now
- 43:22Speaker 2: yet again it's the University of Sydney Mark Scott, who
- 43:25Speaker 2: by the way, used to run the AVC.
- 43:28Speaker 1: Where are you?
- 43:30Speaker 2: It is insane obviously what has happened after he had
- 43:33Speaker 2: all the encampments and whatever. These academics, dopes, but anyone,
- 43:38Speaker 2: they just feel like they can do whatever they want.
- 43:41Speaker 2: Mark Scott has been so hands off that they feel
- 43:44Speaker 2: like they are untouchable and now they can just speak
- 43:47Speaker 2: blatant untruth. I mean, for God's sake, when even the
- 43:50Speaker 2: UN acknowledges that sexual violence was perpetrated on October the seventh,
- 43:56Speaker 2: surely you can understand that you're on the wrong side history.
- 44:00Speaker 1: Woman.
- 44:01Speaker 4: I'm reading, and I'm reading, and you can't find the
- 44:04Speaker 4: part where she's been promptly fired for this.
- 44:08Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 44:09Speaker 3: No, this is a problem. Promise. This is a massive
- 44:13Speaker 3: headache for Mark Scott. He doesn't like it one little bit.
- 44:15Speaker 3: He's not sanctioning this. The problem is.
- 44:17Speaker 5: He doesn't like it one little bit.
- 44:18Speaker 1: Put an end to it.
- 44:19Speaker 3: Noxt No, No, the problem is legally, legally he would
- 44:22Speaker 3: have great, great, great difficulty. I'd almost say he can't.
- 44:25Speaker 3: There was another just crazy ass, crazy left wing academic
- 44:30Speaker 3: who the Sydney University did eventually say right across the line,
- 44:34Speaker 3: you're fired after he showed a swastika on top of
- 44:37Speaker 3: an Israeli flag during a lesson. And guess what, he
- 44:40Speaker 3: went went to court and got back in. And so
- 44:44Speaker 3: even when someone does something like that, you can't get
- 44:46Speaker 3: rid of mix to that. They say, well that was
- 44:47Speaker 3: bad or it was man but it wasn't it. I
- 44:50Speaker 3: know that this is what these people.
- 44:52Speaker 5: But you're allowed to have an opinion.
- 44:54Speaker 3: I mean she would would come back, I would say
- 44:58Speaker 3: this is an opinion, this is the fact, and the
- 45:00Speaker 3: mainstream Western evil media use outlets are covering it all
- 45:04Speaker 3: up and not letting you know true. That's how cooked
- 45:06Speaker 3: people have got it.
- 45:06Speaker 4: And then you wonder why the UNI's under siege by
- 45:09Speaker 4: these protesters and encampments. It's like, well, if you've been
- 45:12Speaker 4: told this.
- 45:13Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, and this is why we're breeding, and
- 45:16Speaker 3: you breed out people. You know, you'll see them on
- 45:18Speaker 3: Twitter saying the same thing. You know, people tweeting, you know,
- 45:20Speaker 3: photos of the attacks as though these guys are heroic
- 45:23Speaker 3: freedom fighters, or saying simply that you know, the babies
- 45:28Speaker 3: weren't killed, or this is all just made up. It's nuts.
- 45:31Speaker 1: To the front page of the Herald Sun.
- 45:32Speaker 4: Before we leave this segment, pay up for Sins, the
- 45:36Speaker 4: splash reads social media giants should be hit with a
- 45:40Speaker 4: sin tax to pay for the damage they've done to
- 45:43Speaker 4: Australian teams and to help fix platforms for future generations.
- 45:48Speaker 4: That's the pitch to the Albinizi government from twenty seven
- 45:52Speaker 4: mental health experts.
- 45:55Speaker 5: I can't see the government running with that one.
- 45:57Speaker 2: Well, hell, we're already paying sin taxes on alcohol and
- 46:01Speaker 2: tobacco and everything else.
- 46:03Speaker 1: Is share the fun, Share the fun. I'm sick of
- 46:07Speaker 1: paying for it.
- 46:08Speaker 2: Coming up after the break, we're going to show you
- 46:10Speaker 2: did sit the dumbest court defendant ever. I used to
- 46:14Speaker 2: be a court reporter, and I reckon this takes the case.
- 46:17Speaker 2: After the break, Welcome back, Jill, you have a quick claim.
- 46:21Speaker 3: I do breaking news. Josh Freedenberg himself has actually just
- 46:24Speaker 3: texted me. Apparently the full bench of the Federal Court
- 46:27Speaker 3: overruled the court decision that reinstated the dodgy Sydney Union
- 46:31Speaker 3: academic and put the swastika on the Israeli flag and
- 46:34Speaker 3: back Sydney Union's decision to sack him. So if I
- 46:36Speaker 3: can sack him, I can suck.
- 46:38Speaker 2: Her common sense, can ray? Now take a look at
- 46:41Speaker 2: this fella. He's in Michigan in the US. He's got
- 46:44Speaker 2: a court date for driving offenses. He does not have
- 46:47Speaker 2: a license. Watch the proceedings and tell me if he
- 46:50Speaker 2: spots something wrong.
- 46:53Speaker 3: Mister, are you driving, Ashley? I'm pulling into my doctor's office,
- 47:00Speaker 3: actually so, so I'll just give me one second. I'm
- 47:04Speaker 3: parking right.
- 47:04Speaker 1: Now, your howner.
- 47:05Speaker 3: We are specially requesting in a German in this matter,
- 47:09Speaker 3: up possibly two to four weeks at the court would allow.
- 47:11Speaker 10: So maybe I don't understand something. This is a driving
- 47:15Speaker 10: one license suspended. That is correct your enter and he
- 47:19Speaker 10: was just driving and he didn't have a license.
- 47:25Speaker 3: I don't even know why he would do that.
- 47:28Speaker 10: So defendant's bond is revoked. In this manner, defendant is
- 47:31Speaker 10: turned himself into the Washington kind of deal by six
- 47:34Speaker 10: pm to day. Failure to turn himself in we'll result
- 47:37Speaker 10: in the benchmark with no bond.
- 47:43Speaker 2: Honestly, you know my days of court reporting, I don't
- 47:47Speaker 2: think that has ever been or ever will be taught.
- 47:51Speaker 3: Well, try this, I might of mine. Was once light
- 47:55Speaker 3: to a court appointments. He was hanging down the ride.
- 48:00Speaker 3: An orange light came on at the intersection just before
- 48:03Speaker 3: the courthouse. He thought, right, I'll just quickly go through it.
- 48:06Speaker 3: I'm running late for my hearing. I've got to get there.
- 48:09Speaker 3: Car in front of him breaked to stop. The light, swerved,
- 48:13Speaker 3: clipped the car in front of him, flipped onto his roof.
- 48:16Speaker 3: Everyone runs out, So are you okay? You okay, You're okay?
- 48:19Speaker 3: He flings over the door, and he says, the way
- 48:22Speaker 3: out of the way. I'm late, I'm late, I'm late quick.
- 48:24Speaker 3: I've got to get to court. I've got to get
- 48:25Speaker 3: to court. And they said, what are you in court for?
- 48:27Speaker 3: And he has dangerous driving.
- 48:31Speaker 1: You're not just sorry. I never know which Joe I
- 48:36Speaker 1: thought it was. It wasn't don your Mum's special free.
- 48:39Speaker 3: There was another friend of ours called mister Smith. Mississippi
- 48:43Speaker 3: changed his name, but he's now called Matthew Smith.
- 48:46Speaker 1: Oh my god.
- 48:47Speaker 2: Well I know Liz has a few offenses driving offences
- 48:50Speaker 2: to her name too.
- 48:50Speaker 3: I am, but I am.
- 48:53Speaker 1: I am a clean skin.
- 48:54Speaker 2: Anyway, that's all for us this week. I thinks the
- 48:56Speaker 2: riad of band show good.