Latest / Tony Katz | Popcorn Moment / Governor Mike Braun reacts to last night's primaries

Transcript

Governor Mike Braun reacts to last night's primaries · Tony Katz | Popcorn Moment

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: The popcorn moment. Let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go.
• 0:04
  Speaker 1: It's the story you need to hear to believe.
• 0:05
  Speaker 2: Then grab your popcorn, because there is more Indiana primaries
• 0:09
  Speaker 2: last night and President Trump turning point Action turning point
• 0:12
  Speaker 2: USA winning big.
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: Was it all about redistricting?
• 0:17
  Speaker 2: The governor of Indiana joins us right now, Mike Brown,
• 0:19
  Speaker 2: and I appreciate you taking the.
• 0:21
  Speaker 1: Time, Governor to be with us.
• 0:22
  Speaker 2: Let's just start with a general your take on the
• 0:25
  Speaker 2: primaries last night.
• 0:28
  Speaker 3: Well, with all the handicappers saying that we'd be lucky
• 0:31
  Speaker 3: to win one or two, obviously that one the case.
• 0:35
  Speaker 3: I think it was an excellent evening. I think it
• 0:39
  Speaker 3: calls out the folks that dug in in the Senate
• 0:43
  Speaker 3: and in our own support. We had twenty five wins
• 0:48
  Speaker 3: and three that didn't make it and two too close
• 0:51
  Speaker 3: to call. That's about it as good as it gets
• 0:54
  Speaker 3: in the business of endorsing. So I think it was
• 0:58
  Speaker 3: clear if you get to the reasons of why redistricting
• 1:01
  Speaker 3: was brought to Indiana and elsewhere, is the Democrats have
• 1:05
  Speaker 3: jerrymandered so effectively over the years. New England as an example,
• 1:11
  Speaker 3: our neighbor to the West, which is I think that
• 1:14
  Speaker 3: was a fifty three forty seven.
• 1:15
  Speaker 4: Election last time.
• 1:17
  Speaker 3: And they've got to think of their seventeen congressional districts,
• 1:21
  Speaker 3: fourteen of them, you know, were blue.
• 1:24
  Speaker 4: So I think the reason.
• 1:26
  Speaker 3: For doing it made sense in Indiana, digging in with
• 1:30
  Speaker 3: the leadership being so staunchly against it, when at the
• 1:34
  Speaker 3: closing line close to eighty percent of conservatives and Republicans
• 1:39
  Speaker 3: thought it was a good idea. They're paying for the
• 1:41
  Speaker 3: consequences of it, just like I predicted back then.
• 1:45
  Speaker 2: Now when we take a look at redistricting to which
• 1:49
  Speaker 2: I favored, and I was a very very loud voice
• 1:54
  Speaker 2: of and continue to be. I have made the statement
• 1:58
  Speaker 2: quite clearly that redistricting was handled properly the whole the presentation,
• 2:03
  Speaker 2: and I said this, sir, about your office, I said
• 2:06
  Speaker 2: this about the Vice President, Jade Vance, the entire thing.
• 2:10
  Speaker 2: I think that we could have handled this better and
• 2:12
  Speaker 2: gotten a better result from the beginning. So if we
• 2:16
  Speaker 2: had approached redistricting differently, do you think we would actually be.
• 2:20
  Speaker 1: In this moment today? Were any of those senators people.
• 2:23
  Speaker 2: Who could have been moved by a better presentation and
• 2:27
  Speaker 2: a better conversation before we got to that vote in
• 2:31
  Speaker 2: the Senate, Well, I don't remember what the particulars were
• 2:34
  Speaker 2: of what you would have suggested, but I think all
• 2:36
  Speaker 2: of us did to the extent we could do.
• 2:39
  Speaker 3: But when you had one individual and I'm calling for
• 2:42
  Speaker 3: leadership change there after this In terms of sender Bray,
• 2:47
  Speaker 3: he obviously was using methods that scared off the individuals
• 2:53
  Speaker 3: that were thinking about it and was going to happen.
• 2:56
  Speaker 3: And I think when you have someone that has that
• 2:59
  Speaker 3: kind of paser and digs in regardless of what you
• 3:02
  Speaker 3: could do, I'm not going to say to you, well,
• 3:04
  Speaker 3: I always love to learn from what you go through
• 3:08
  Speaker 3: and distill it. But in this case, he made that
• 3:12
  Speaker 3: decision and figured there probably wouldn't be any consequences. These
• 3:16
  Speaker 3: margins were unbelievable when almost anyone in mainstream media was saying,
• 3:23
  Speaker 3: lucky if we pick up one or two. So I think, yes,
• 3:26
  Speaker 3: always go back, debrief, see what you can do better.
• 3:29
  Speaker 3: You may be right, but in this business, you deal
• 3:32
  Speaker 3: with what happens in the moment and then you do
• 3:35
  Speaker 3: react to it. And I think this is a clear
• 3:37
  Speaker 3: statement of where they were wrong. And I think the
• 3:40
  Speaker 3: way you prevent stuff like this in the future is
• 3:43
  Speaker 3: make sure whoever leads your chamber is going to be
• 3:46
  Speaker 3: more in line with the pulse of what's going on
• 3:49
  Speaker 3: not only in your own backyard, in the country as well.
• 3:53
  Speaker 1: So let's make sure we go a little bit deeper
• 3:55
  Speaker 1: on this.
• 3:56
  Speaker 2: Talking to the governor of Indiana, Mike Brown, are you
• 3:58
  Speaker 2: calling for the center pro Tim rod Bray to step
• 4:01
  Speaker 2: down from leadership?
• 4:03
  Speaker 3: Well, I think with this statement that was so crystal clear,
• 4:09
  Speaker 3: I think that if he doesn't, it probably won't happen
• 4:12
  Speaker 3: within their own caucus.
• 4:14
  Speaker 4: Anyway. I'm not going to be I'm one that.
• 4:17
  Speaker 3: Figures once you have something like this, however it occurs,
• 4:22
  Speaker 3: it's the harbinger of change. And my main issue was
• 4:28
  Speaker 3: not even redistricting. The Senate has been the place where
• 4:32
  Speaker 3: a lot of good conservative entrepreneurial legislation seems to die.
• 4:38
  Speaker 4: And if we're going to be a state that is
• 4:41
  Speaker 4: going to do things above.
• 4:42
  Speaker 3: And beyond the normal, you can have as your default
• 4:45
  Speaker 3: a wet blanket and I'll let things evolve here forward
• 4:50
  Speaker 3: within their own caucus, and I think it's going to
• 4:52
  Speaker 3: be clear, you know what should happen.
• 4:54
  Speaker 4: We'll see if it does.
• 4:58
  Speaker 1: Well, that was a mouthful.
• 5:00
  Speaker 2: I mean referring to the Center pro tem as a
• 5:04
  Speaker 2: wet blanket. You now have to go about getting these
• 5:07
  Speaker 2: candidates to win the general election.
• 5:09
  Speaker 1: What have you heard from groups.
• 5:11
  Speaker 2: That were out there engaged in this fight, whether it's
• 5:13
  Speaker 2: Turning Point USA, Turning Point Action Club for Growth. I
• 5:16
  Speaker 2: believe in others who spend a tremendous amount of money
• 5:18
  Speaker 2: in Indiana. What are you hearing from them about their
• 5:21
  Speaker 2: commitment to see it through and get these candidates elected
• 5:25
  Speaker 2: in a general?
• 5:26
  Speaker 3: You know, I think if you just extend the equation logically,
• 5:30
  Speaker 3: they're probably not interested in the spending this much and
• 5:33
  Speaker 3: then seeing it fall flat in the general. There's been
• 5:37
  Speaker 3: no particular conversation on it. I mean, I think we're
• 5:40
  Speaker 3: kind of savoring what happened last night. It was such
• 5:43
  Speaker 3: a clear statement with such wide margins. I think the
• 5:47
  Speaker 3: rest is a simpler equation. And in these places, some
• 5:51
  Speaker 3: of these districts are going to be maybe close to
• 5:56
  Speaker 3: where they could go either way, and most of them,
• 5:59
  Speaker 3: though or solid Republican Senate seats to where there won't
• 6:04
  Speaker 3: be any question. A few of them will be ones
• 6:08
  Speaker 3: where you will have to put resources into it, and
• 6:11
  Speaker 3: I think it will be good money after good.
• 6:13
  Speaker 2: When you do it, let's talk about what comes next,
• 6:18
  Speaker 2: because you now have two years to work with this
• 6:21
  Speaker 2: potential new crop of GOP state centators. Talking to the
• 6:26
  Speaker 2: Governor of Indiana, Mike Brawn, are you going to take
• 6:29
  Speaker 2: another bite at the apple on property taxes and make
• 6:31
  Speaker 2: any changes that provide further relief? Because a little bit
• 6:36
  Speaker 2: was seen this year, I don't think as much as
• 6:37
  Speaker 2: people wanted to see serious relief, not even a little relief,
• 6:41
  Speaker 2: serious relief for hoos your taxpayers, because of the size
• 6:44
  Speaker 2: of property taxes that we have all been experiencing.
• 6:47
  Speaker 3: Well, it was one point three billion over three years,
• 6:52
  Speaker 3: passed by two votes, mostly due to Senate leadership. When
• 6:57
  Speaker 3: they give you SB one and gut it down onto
• 7:00
  Speaker 3: a hollow shell. Took us four months to build it
• 7:03
  Speaker 3: back in the House. And when you look at homes
• 7:07
  Speaker 3: being two thirds exempted regardless of value over the next
• 7:12
  Speaker 3: five years, that's about as much as the.
• 7:14
  Speaker 4: Cash flow could stand anyway.
• 7:16
  Speaker 3: And remember most of the criticism of that would have
• 7:19
  Speaker 3: been from Republicans that run local government. So I think
• 7:23
  Speaker 3: there's always room to do more. The key thing, Tony,
• 7:27
  Speaker 3: you got a cash flow and our economic development that
• 7:30
  Speaker 3: we put into place in the year and four months
• 7:33
  Speaker 3: is knocking it out of the park. We're getting it
• 7:36
  Speaker 3: across the state with a regional approach. And here's the
• 7:40
  Speaker 3: other dividend we're getting. I was asking for agencies to
• 7:43
  Speaker 3: run themselves more efficiently after the COVID glut of funds
• 7:48
  Speaker 3: and all the things that we were doing. That was
• 7:52
  Speaker 3: growing government faster than ever before in Indiana. We're really
• 7:57
  Speaker 3: realizing that. And when that faulty forecast from April of
• 8:01
  Speaker 3: twenty five was vindicated by an accurate one in December,
• 8:05
  Speaker 3: we're in a trajectory of being in the best shape
• 8:08
  Speaker 3: we've ever been in. And I'm going to credit that
• 8:10
  Speaker 3: to a great entrepreneurial team that I put together of entrepreneurs,
• 8:15
  Speaker 3: private sector folks that we're willing to come into government.
• 8:18
  Speaker 3: And we're seeing in across the policy silos of healthcare
• 8:23
  Speaker 3: and education, utility rates restructured to IURC to make them
• 8:29
  Speaker 3: a ratepayer attentive, froze tuitions at the public schools. I mean,
• 8:35
  Speaker 3: that affordability issue is real, and I want to end
• 8:38
  Speaker 3: with this on that issue. Biden gave it to us
• 8:42
  Speaker 3: over those three years of twenty two, three and four
• 8:45
  Speaker 3: cumulative inflation of twenty five percent.
• 8:49
  Speaker 4: We're living with that hangover.
• 8:51
  Speaker 3: We can't forget why we've got affordability issues. I'm going
• 8:55
  Speaker 3: to do everything to mitigate it.
• 8:57
  Speaker 4: As governor.
• 9:00
  Speaker 3: Shown that with stuff that we've done over these last
• 9:03
  Speaker 3: four months.
• 9:04
  Speaker 4: When in twenty six.
• 9:05
  Speaker 2: When this new crop of senators, if they should all
• 9:08
  Speaker 2: win the general are sworn in, just a quick yes
• 9:11
  Speaker 2: or no, we could do a round robin right here,
• 9:13
  Speaker 2: are you going to take another bite at the apple
• 9:14
  Speaker 2: to further lower property taxes?
• 9:17
  Speaker 3: Property taxes are always going to be on the table.
• 9:21
  Speaker 3: I feel that after a certain point in time, especially
• 9:24
  Speaker 3: after you've paid off your mortgage, that you probably shouldn't
• 9:27
  Speaker 3: have another expense out there. Several different angles to do
• 9:31
  Speaker 3: more and add to that is always going to be
• 9:34
  Speaker 3: on the table. And again focus on our state senate,
• 9:38
  Speaker 3: whoever might remain that was against more aggressive property tax reform,
• 9:43
  Speaker 3: we're certainly going to have a different complexion there.
• 9:46
  Speaker 4: So yes, it is on the table.
• 9:49
  Speaker 2: When it comes to gas taxes, will we see the
• 9:52
  Speaker 2: gas tax holiday continued? Do you want to make that
• 9:55
  Speaker 2: announcement right now that we've got another month of reduced
• 9:57
  Speaker 2: gas taxes.
• 9:58
  Speaker 4: I tell you what I am going to do.
• 10:00
  Speaker 3: I'm going to break the news that I'm going to
• 10:02
  Speaker 3: make an announcement later this afternoon, So stay tuned.
• 10:06
  Speaker 1: See, that's not what we need. We don't need announcements
• 10:08
  Speaker 1: this afternoon. We need announcements now. We will tune in
• 10:13
  Speaker 1: for that. Are the Chicago Bears coming to Indiana?
• 10:16
  Speaker 4: Yes? Or no?
• 10:18
  Speaker 3: Well, where would you like to spend the next fifty
• 10:20
  Speaker 3: years if you were starting a business on the outskirts
• 10:23
  Speaker 3: of Chicago, in a state like Illinois that is legging
• 10:27
  Speaker 3: in every category, or a place like Indiana where the
• 10:30
  Speaker 3: economic growth is twice that of Illinois, where you've got
• 10:33
  Speaker 3: reasonable regulations, where you've got plenty of territory, where logistically
• 10:38
  Speaker 3: it'd probably be easier to get to the game. But
• 10:40
  Speaker 3: most importantly, they're a business. And who do you think
• 10:43
  Speaker 3: is going to pay for all the mismanagement in Illinois.
• 10:48
  Speaker 3: It'll be the businesses, the major enterprises that do so
• 10:51
  Speaker 3: the way they govern I think that'll be the driving
• 10:54
  Speaker 3: factor in terms of what they do over the next
• 10:56
  Speaker 3: month and.
• 10:56
  Speaker 4: A half or two.
• 10:57
  Speaker 2: But the Bears haven't asked for anything else. We haven't
• 10:59
  Speaker 2: offered anything else. No one's trying to make some desperation,
• 11:02
  Speaker 2: plead for the Bears. We've made our case and now
• 11:04
  Speaker 2: the Bears have to do the right thing. Is that
• 11:06
  Speaker 2: where we're at.
• 11:07
  Speaker 4: I think that's where we're at.
• 11:08
  Speaker 3: And we can see by the due diligence that we're
• 11:11
  Speaker 3: checking off week after week, Mayor McDermott and Hammond has
• 11:15
  Speaker 3: been doing a yeoman's.
• 11:18
  Speaker 4: Job up there.
• 11:19
  Speaker 3: It looks good that it's plot kind of going in
• 11:22
  Speaker 3: that direction. About the speed we figured once things passed
• 11:26
  Speaker 3: the threshold of legislation and their strong statement.
• 11:29
  Speaker 2: I think back in February, last but not least, when
• 11:33
  Speaker 2: do I get named trade Ambassador of Indiana and you.
• 11:36
  Speaker 3: Publicly are still interested in doing it. So we're going
• 11:39
  Speaker 3: to actually probably make that happen if you're serious about
• 11:44
  Speaker 3: in your spare time trying to bring economic development to Indiana.
• 11:49
  Speaker 3: And I think you're targeting the state of New York.
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: I correct there in New York, California, Illinois, any place
• 11:56
  Speaker 2: that has horrible politics, but they can't bring the politics
• 11:59
  Speaker 2: with them.
• 11:59
  Speaker 1: And only I deliver that message. Yes, sir, let's.
• 12:02
  Speaker 4: Let's get this done.
• 12:03
  Speaker 3: Low hanging fruit to pick there, and you'd be a
• 12:05
  Speaker 3: good one to do it.
• 12:06
  Speaker 2: Let's I look forward to my sash and my scepter,
• 12:11
  Speaker 2: and of course my good parking spot. Most importantly getting
• 12:14
  Speaker 2: the job done. Governor Braun, I appreciate you taking the
• 12:17
  Speaker 2: time to be with us. Governor Mike Braun, the governor
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: of Indiana. We will have traffic for you on the
• 12:22
  Speaker 2: fives at seven thirty five. Keep it right here. Tony
• 12:25
  Speaker 2: Katz ninety three WIBC, Good morning,