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  Speaker 8: I know you still have amazing, amazing thoughts and intellectual thoughts.
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  Speaker 8: I know it's gonna have It's gonna be a very
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  Speaker 8: intellectual conversation. So the conversation is about why Pan.
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  Speaker 7: Africanism is so important.
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  Speaker 4: You know, and I believe.
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  Speaker 7: Definitely.
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  Speaker 8: But before that, I was actually looking at the sectors
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  Speaker 8: and the areas where the West has really tried or
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  Speaker 8: has been actually trying to control and blockers from actually
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  Speaker 8: from Africa ascending into the best version of themselves and
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  Speaker 8: in regards to who they truly are, right and also
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  Speaker 8: in regards to who they truly are, and we've.
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  Speaker 7: Seen them using religion number one.
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  Speaker 8: And also we do have in the economic sector the
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  Speaker 8: kind of foods that we process right, and also the
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  Speaker 8: political sector can take the systems that have been set
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  Speaker 8: up for us to.
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  Speaker 7: Not actually have conscious leaders.
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  Speaker 8: Because I was thinking about and them, like, we have
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  Speaker 8: blockages that have been set up for us not to
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  Speaker 8: actually be in tune with ourselves, you know. And these
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  Speaker 8: pointers came out in regards to first of all, religion
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  Speaker 8: or spirituality. Number two, are the kind of foods that
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  Speaker 8: we consume. Three, our political system are not. Actually, I'm
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  Speaker 8: not being set up for us to actually have conscious
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  Speaker 8: leaders who break out out of the sparks.
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  Speaker 7: I don't know if you agree with me on that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't agree with you, Actually I don't.
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  Speaker 10: Sometimes I don't even like calling them systems because in
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  Speaker 10: most in most cases, a system is supposed to work.
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  Speaker 4: That's why, for example, your a blody has a system
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  Speaker 4: that works.
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  Speaker 10: If I don't know what alternative need to call me,
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  Speaker 10: but I don't like following them systems because they do
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  Speaker 10: not work.
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  Speaker 4: So they are really not systems. They are more And
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  Speaker 4: if you look at all of.
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  Speaker 10: Them, just like you said you look at the political
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  Speaker 10: let me call them architectures. Okay, So, for lack of
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  Speaker 10: a better word, look at, for example, of the political
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  Speaker 10: architecture that we have. It's that which I can say
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  Speaker 10: it's already been read before the game even starts to
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  Speaker 10: look at for example, like like we always talk about
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  Speaker 10: how it's even about the multiple improbability that of all
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  Speaker 10: the countries that we have in Africa, we do not
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  Speaker 10: We do not even have one leader who's who we
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  Speaker 10: can point out and failure that one is superminded. So
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  Speaker 10: the architecture, like you said, and the fact that most
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  Speaker 10: of the architecture that we we Africa rans on it
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  Speaker 10: being the political architecture, being the legal architecture, it being
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  Speaker 10: the educational architecture. It's pre colonial, it was before it's
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  Speaker 10: colonial architecture. That for example, I saw that they Kenyans
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  Speaker 10: are starting to realize that to there's that conversation that
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  Speaker 10: was going on about Kenia and whether Jerkinata really food
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  Speaker 10: for the was really a freedom for I don't know
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  Speaker 10: if it's saw the conversation compelling online the other day.
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  Speaker 10: Then for the first time, people are now starting to
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  Speaker 10: even ask questions on for example, even the history that
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  Speaker 10: we have that we were.
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  Speaker 11: Taught in school from.
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  Speaker 4: The educational architecture was misinformed.
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  Speaker 10: You look at somebody like jerm at At whom we idolized, right,
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  Speaker 10: we pay this person who fought for independence.
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  Speaker 4: But you ask yourself some basic questions.
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  Speaker 10: Such as this we're talking about a guy who was
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  Speaker 10: in the UK the nineteen that you know how hard
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  Speaker 10: it is to go to the UK even right now
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  Speaker 10: as an African, if you decided to go to the
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  Speaker 10: UK in twenty twenty five, there's so many hurdles that
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  Speaker 10: allowed you to. But this guy was this guy who
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  Speaker 10: was supposed to believe was just a random young man
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  Speaker 10: from central Kenya who was a young fighter, lived there
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  Speaker 10: for years. I don't know when there was I don't know.
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  Speaker 10: I can't even I don't even think there was a
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  Speaker 10: functional airline at that time or an airport in that case.
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  Speaker 10: But he went to the UK and lived there for years,
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  Speaker 10: and then he came back with the white wife and
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  Speaker 10: convinced us that he was fighting the white man whom
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  Speaker 10: he had lived with it for years, you know.
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  Speaker 4: So those are some of the things that as you say,
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  Speaker 4: even the most of the systems.
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  Speaker 10: You look at the financial systems for for example, you
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  Speaker 10: you read John Parkins The Confessions and Economic hit Man,
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  Speaker 10: and you look.
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  Speaker 4: At how ye what is what it talks about the economics?
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  Speaker 10: How how the financial systems in Africa rand You look
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  Speaker 10: at there those that the main goal is I have
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  Speaker 10: to keep you in debt and they have to make
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  Speaker 10: sure the date does not benefit you.
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  Speaker 4: So it's I know that I want to want to
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  Speaker 4: make sure that he always has owes me something, but
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  Speaker 4: also I don't want.
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  Speaker 10: Need to benefit from what the So now that's basically
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  Speaker 10: the economic system that we have. The loners billions and
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  Speaker 10: millions of money every year, and then they make sure
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  Speaker 10: that the money they learners they're not going to put
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  Speaker 10: accountabilities clous They don't really care how the money is
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  Speaker 10: going to be use. Actually they do care because they
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  Speaker 10: don't want the money to benefit. So now they introduce
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  Speaker 10: these white elephant projects. Like John Patrick talks about how
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  Speaker 10: you go to Africa and the most developing countries and
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  Speaker 10: you're going to realize that most of you're going to
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  Speaker 10: find these ridiculous projects happening in all those countries. You
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  Speaker 10: can go to Senegal and they tell you they have
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  Speaker 10: the biggest bridge in the world. You go to another country,
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  Speaker 10: they tell you they have I don't know the beginning.
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  Speaker 10: You come to Kenya, they'll take you to to Livers
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  Speaker 10: and they tell you they have the biggest ferry school
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  Speaker 10: in Africa. You know, projects and elephant projects that you
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  Speaker 10: really and say what they benefit the countries in They
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  Speaker 10: tail you about this and then it takes years and
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  Speaker 10: layers for us to try and pay back those days.
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  Speaker 4: But then you look at what priority projects that should have.
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  Speaker 10: You know, I agree everybody has a day somewhere, even
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  Speaker 10: they I mean even from a personal.
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  Speaker 4: Level, you probably owe somebody's something right.
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  Speaker 7: And.
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  Speaker 10: It would be one the and if we took debts
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  Speaker 10: induced them in the right way, you know, we did
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  Speaker 10: projects that actually Martin for example, Kenny.
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  Speaker 4: Has a date feeling that is almost in trillions.
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  Speaker 10: But then you look at if you were to qualify
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  Speaker 10: the date and say this and this and this is
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  Speaker 10: what we've done with There are trillions of dates.
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  Speaker 4: We don't have anything point and if they.
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  Speaker 10: Took death, let's from an ignorant point of view, we
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  Speaker 10: took loans and did something in.
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  Speaker 4: Them that would be at least you know, But then
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  Speaker 4: we will live in.
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  Speaker 10: A world lawyer relation that the deeds will take will
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  Speaker 10: not also benefitters.
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  Speaker 4: So you owe money, you can point out what we
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  Speaker 4: did with the money. You still have to pay the money.
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  Speaker 10: And so in the process of you paying back the dates,
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  Speaker 10: you get into more deeds to pay the debts and
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  Speaker 10: to service the dates. And if it is a point
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  Speaker 10: where the whole world is in debt and people are
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  Speaker 10: starting to ask who do we all really right.
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  Speaker 8: Definitely makes sense in the political let me say area
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  Speaker 8: or sector on it, because we definitely do not have
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  Speaker 8: leaders who are they're there, but they cannot be given
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  Speaker 8: that position because they're definitely chosen. And the fact that
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  Speaker 8: we always need a leader that is always super conscious
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  Speaker 8: because right now before asking questions, as you've said, do
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  Speaker 8: you think this leader, I believe they are super gretty
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  Speaker 8: and that's why they will take that bait in regards
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  Speaker 8: to the fact that yes, I'm going to become president,
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  Speaker 8: but it's only better fitting me and my generation. In
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  Speaker 8: regards to they're not going to develop the country. They're
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  Speaker 8: not going to awaken or help people really know what's
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  Speaker 8: really happening, because if they do that, you know they've
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  Speaker 8: been given automator not to actually do what they're supposed
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  Speaker 8: to do.
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  Speaker 7: Because we do have a lot of.
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  Speaker 8: Expectation with this leaders or with this politician. Let me
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  Speaker 8: say that's a good word right now, you know, but
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  Speaker 8: the time went because see if booking a passil Abrahim
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  Speaker 8: is doing it, and the fact that he's doing right now,
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  Speaker 8: there's an attack in booking a passle that's what it takes.
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  Speaker 8: But I feel like a time that time should be
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  Speaker 8: now for us to be literally standard because it's possible
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  Speaker 8: for us to have an independent nation without any foreign interference.
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  Speaker 7: But what will that take don't know what's your take
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  Speaker 7: on that.
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  Speaker 10: I sometimes disagree with people they say can leaders are
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  Speaker 10: liars because I don't think they're liars.
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  Speaker 4: They never meant to do it from the work, so
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  Speaker 4: they never lied really from the never you think it's.
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  Speaker 12: Just as cool, like they need to tell us what
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  Speaker 12: we need to hear, but they literally do know like
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  Speaker 12: I'm not going to do these things at all.
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  Speaker 7: I'm just saying this to get this position.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, from the word goodie, you know that they're not
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  Speaker 10: going to do it, so you know they's know that
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  Speaker 10: they're really not going to do it.
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  Speaker 4: And then you look at you're a good pointing that
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  Speaker 4: you look there's.
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  Speaker 10: There, there are there almost like a wave that have
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  Speaker 10: been speaking through Africa.
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  Speaker 4: You look at I don't know if it come a
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  Speaker 4: round that had protests.
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  Speaker 13: Yesterday of a high phrases of you and I don't
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  Speaker 13: I can't remember the.
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  Speaker 4: Name of the country.
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  Speaker 10: But you've seen all the protests that have been coming up.
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  Speaker 10: You've seen what is happening in the hell in booking
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  Speaker 10: fast in Mali and Dnisia. And you know this is
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  Speaker 10: this is this is what is happening right now is
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  Speaker 10: a dream that was lived many many, many many many
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  Speaker 10: years ago by.
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  Speaker 8: W.
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  Speaker 4: Comen Kumar had had this another we're.
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  Speaker 10: Talking about Pan Africanism looking back at where it abably
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  Speaker 10: started in nineteen I think it was in nineteen sixty three,
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  Speaker 10: that is when Commen.
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  Speaker 13: Kroma came up with this suggestion in a disturber that's
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  Speaker 13: where they met.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, he came up with this adjuction and he told
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  Speaker 10: them that but if we united, you know, I remember
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  Speaker 10: that time, it was a few countries have gained independence,
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  Speaker 10: including Central a country public there was.
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  Speaker 4: The Upper Upper Delta and some other few African countries.
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  Speaker 4: At that time.
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  Speaker 10: I remember the president of the Central Republic telling the
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  Speaker 10: people who were sated there that Central African Republic is
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  Speaker 10: too small of a country and if we do not unite,
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  Speaker 10: then the French people are going to be back, the
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  Speaker 10: white man is going to be back. And that is
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  Speaker 10: when the first division happened in Africa. There was an
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  Speaker 10: ideological division that was of this traitor because there was
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  Speaker 10: one there was one group of revolution and Africans that
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  Speaker 10: at that time they were being referred to as radicals,
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  Speaker 10: that is, the likes.
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  Speaker 4: Of Ghanar, the likes of Algeria. Ghana then was not
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  Speaker 4: called There was a jay that was.
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  Speaker 10: Gimmy, There was Manly and a few other countries that
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  Speaker 10: was being led by Carmen Kromas, and he was calling
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  Speaker 10: for an immediate so the world was immediate that those
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  Speaker 10: those peatures are still there. And then they are still
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  Speaker 10: a few of those pitches, and I look at them,
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  Speaker 10: you'll see the fear in Commen Chromer's eyes because he
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  Speaker 10: was he was fearful of what happened if Africa did
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  Speaker 10: not unite there and then so for him, he was
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  Speaker 10: calling for an immediate political union in Africa and this
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  Speaker 10: included he was calling for three things. A unified army,
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  Speaker 10: a common currency, had a central government. And he believed
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  Speaker 10: that only as strong that is, Africa could only bid
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  Speaker 10: near colonialism if it united into one country, into one
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  Speaker 10: not country per se, but one block. And that group
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  Speaker 10: met him for a blanker that is why it was
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  Speaker 10: called a blanker group. But then that is when the
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  Speaker 10: first division happened because at the same time that a
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  Speaker 10: blancer group was meeting, another group was meeting in Monrovia.
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  Speaker 4: Right, that group was the lives of Nigeria. There was
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  Speaker 4: a theopia with Liberia.
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  Speaker 10: Actually it was most Franco all countries, it's Francophone tantios.
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  Speaker 10: The ones that were really most of them were in
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  Speaker 10: the Monrovia group, and they were the leaders like William
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  Speaker 10: Trubman of Liberia and Leopold Sega of Senegal.
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  Speaker 4: So those are the ones that were supporting. They were saying,
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  Speaker 4: it's okay, we can unit, yea is, but we're not
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: in a hurry, you know.
• 20:38
  Speaker 10: H Even when Julius Area of Tanzania was there, and
• 20:44
  Speaker 10: years later he did an interview and he said that
• 20:46
  Speaker 10: that was one of the things that he regretted doing.
• 20:48
  Speaker 10: But then he said that at that time there was
• 20:51
  Speaker 10: so much distrust man African leaders because most countries had
• 20:55
  Speaker 10: just gained independent, so they had just come off. So
• 20:59
  Speaker 10: he said that at that time there was that distrust
• 21:02
  Speaker 10: and every leader the other one was pushing this agenda
• 21:05
  Speaker 10: so that it can become the supreme leader.
• 21:09
  Speaker 11: And so.
• 21:11
  Speaker 10: That group, the Monrovia Group, say that it's okay, we
• 21:14
  Speaker 10: can unite, but we're not in a hurry.
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: Let's have they call lead moderate cooperation.
• 21:21
  Speaker 10: Let's let's operate, but let's let's maintain our independence.
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: We need to have a political union. Let us. They
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: were calling for self ray, that's soviety.
• 21:34
  Speaker 10: First they said, we need to be sofering and then
• 21:37
  Speaker 10: we can gradually the create.
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: Into a union.
• 21:41
  Speaker 10: And they say that if a union was formed then
• 21:44
  Speaker 10: it could cause internal instability.
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: It would cause instability.
• 21:48
  Speaker 10: Because most countries have not yet be gained independent. Then
• 21:52
  Speaker 10: and now the worst part is that this is the
• 21:54
  Speaker 10: the group that won because later after now the thea
• 21:57
  Speaker 10: Blanca and the Monrovia group may in Addis Ababa in.
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: Nineteen sixty three, that is when.
• 22:05
  Speaker 10: Despite Kroma, despite the President of Central African Republic ten
• 22:11
  Speaker 10: by this time Patricks Lumumba had been assassinated already, because.
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: This is nineteen sixty three, Laomber had already been assassinated.
• 22:20
  Speaker 10: But despite all this place from Kroma and the other
• 22:24
  Speaker 10: as a blanker group that was calling for unification of Africa,
• 22:30
  Speaker 10: the rejected the idea of an immediate union and they
• 22:34
  Speaker 10: ended up forming what Professor.
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: Pielo Lumumba described.
• 22:40
  Speaker 10: He says that some people describe it as that ruthless dog,
• 22:42
  Speaker 10: but he does not describe it as a dog at all.
• 22:45
  Speaker 10: We ended up forming the Organization of African Union Unity
• 22:49
  Speaker 10: and then it was called the Doganation of African Unity,
• 22:53
  Speaker 10: which they said it was a framework for promoting African
• 22:55
  Speaker 10: unity and unifying a nineteen sixty three. But ten years
• 22:59
  Speaker 10: later you look at them, you it has evolved in
• 23:01
  Speaker 10: many forms over the years. At the moment, it's called
• 23:05
  Speaker 10: a union with its headquarters still in Ethiopia where the
• 23:09
  Speaker 10: first time, where they met the first time, and.
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: You look at it years later, you look at its.
• 23:16
  Speaker 10: Infrastructure, you look at quot has achieved after all this time,
• 23:21
  Speaker 10: and you really can't point out at anything substantial that
• 23:26
  Speaker 10: the AU has achieved.
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: In fact, you has one. But it has achieved one thing,
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: and give it.
• 23:33
  Speaker 10: Give this. It has something that you have achieved massively,
• 23:38
  Speaker 10: is that it has the ability to observe conflicts and issue.
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: See rewarded statements.
• 23:46
  Speaker 10: Yeah, so people will die and the A you will
• 23:50
  Speaker 10: send observers to observe the death and then it will
• 23:53
  Speaker 10: issue a heavily warded statement saying we are deeply sadened
• 23:57
  Speaker 10: by the deaths happening in Ethiopia.
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: So I give it that. If that was the mandate
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: that it was maaid for then it has really achieved.
• 24:07
  Speaker 8: Standing situations right because it does not really represent anything
• 24:13
  Speaker 8: to do with Africa. Believe he's obviously you notice their
• 24:16
  Speaker 8: old fronts to actually keep us at that mindset that
• 24:21
  Speaker 8: you know what the organizations that here will help us,
• 24:24
  Speaker 8: which we have just said is there's nothing that we
• 24:26
  Speaker 8: can point out that they've actually done.
• 24:29
  Speaker 7: All these other organizations. Another conversation about the fact that
• 24:34
  Speaker 7: Africa should be.
• 24:34
  Speaker 8: Independent, right, we did have right ila odinga community with
• 24:39
  Speaker 8: or basically collaborating with doctor Rikanachicnbori in regards to we
• 24:44
  Speaker 8: should definitely have free movements within Africa right understanding where
• 24:48
  Speaker 8: the audio leader.
• 24:50
  Speaker 7: Right now stands at a point where he sturns from I.
• 24:53
  Speaker 8: Don't think we can really it definitely makes sense when
• 24:58
  Speaker 8: you hear like, you know what we should Africans should
• 25:00
  Speaker 8: move with freedom to all other African nations because first
• 25:05
  Speaker 8: of all, that is going to increase it if it's
• 25:08
  Speaker 8: in terms of our economic resources, it will increase our
• 25:11
  Speaker 8: GDP like one hundred percent. But also we do have
• 25:17
  Speaker 8: another conversation that I'm bringing a lot of foreign us.
• 25:22
  Speaker 8: First of all, Kellys, I thought you, I believe you
• 25:25
  Speaker 8: hard of what she did she bought three hundred acres
• 25:29
  Speaker 8: of land in Basha right over how many billion ken shillings?
• 25:36
  Speaker 7: And we do have the.
• 25:37
  Speaker 8: Tanzania or Tanzania has banned Nan citizens from running small
• 25:42
  Speaker 8: businesses like salons. All right, can you hear me right
• 25:46
  Speaker 8: now because I can hear you. Okay, good, okay. We
• 25:52
  Speaker 8: do have Tanzania which has banned Nan citizen from running
• 25:56
  Speaker 8: small businesses like salon's, retail shops, no restaurants, no, and
• 26:02
  Speaker 8: also on farm crop practicing and more like. You cannot
• 26:05
  Speaker 8: really own a land in Tanzania if you're a formner.
• 26:09
  Speaker 8: But here in Kenya we did see Kelly's I know
• 26:11
  Speaker 8: she's African America which she literally bought three hundred O
• 26:16
  Speaker 8: think she kind of like listed or she.
• 26:19
  Speaker 7: Bought it over. I think are some of a billion
• 26:24
  Speaker 7: shillings in Kenya.
• 26:26
  Speaker 8: I don't know what you're taking on that, because they
• 26:27
  Speaker 8: do have a lot of the asturants who are trying
• 26:29
  Speaker 8: to relocate back to the madland.
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: I think I think at especially with is that what
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: the that's that's the that'ssion.
• 26:49
  Speaker 10: According to me, Africa opening up boarders would bring more
• 26:54
  Speaker 10: benefit to every single African country. But then you to
• 27:00
  Speaker 10: look at it on both ways. For example, I remember
• 27:03
  Speaker 10: one of the things that the Hell did when it
• 27:05
  Speaker 10: was starting up was closing borders. Because at the end
• 27:08
  Speaker 10: of the day, in as much as I lose what
• 27:12
  Speaker 10: Judge said in the animals firm and he said that
• 27:14
  Speaker 10: in this in this farm, some animals are more equal
• 27:17
  Speaker 10: than others. Even in enough we cat some In as
• 27:20
  Speaker 10: much as most, if not all, of the countries are
• 27:23
  Speaker 10: perfect countries, some countries are more perfect.
• 27:25
  Speaker 11: Than anothers so m.
• 27:30
  Speaker 10: So at the same time, there are countries that will
• 27:34
  Speaker 10: still feel like even if we if we open up
• 27:37
  Speaker 10: a boarders these other countries. For example, I'll give an
• 27:40
  Speaker 10: example of this ahead the countries neighbor in Hell. Most
• 27:45
  Speaker 10: of them if the Hell opened up as fools to
• 27:49
  Speaker 10: tell they might be used against the head, you know
• 27:54
  Speaker 10: in that as I say, just like Joel said, even
• 27:57
  Speaker 10: in in Africa, some countries are more perfect than anothers
• 28:00
  Speaker 10: the countries that are fully perpeted like nothing happens. To
• 28:04
  Speaker 10: look at a country like Nigeria, for example, I'm always
• 28:08
  Speaker 10: very start when I talk about Nigeria one because they
• 28:11
  Speaker 10: don't have electricity too, because the president.
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: Is ball at Renoble.
• 28:14
  Speaker 10: That is Sader than the your president being Timbu is
• 28:17
  Speaker 10: sader than the second part. So it looks at a
• 28:21
  Speaker 10: country like Nigeria, it's one of the I think it's
• 28:26
  Speaker 10: the seventh of the.
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: Sixth largest exporter in opic in Opech. It's Africa's oil.
• 28:38
  Speaker 10: Good do I say it's Africa. It's literally Africa's oil.
• 28:42
  Speaker 10: Well and yet to look at it, nothing happens in
• 28:45
  Speaker 10: that country. It's one of the poorest economies.
• 28:51
  Speaker 11: In the world.
• 28:52
  Speaker 10: In fact that they put things, which is one country
• 28:54
  Speaker 10: that even if you're given a faith ravel.
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: And all expensive stad you did go to.
• 28:59
  Speaker 10: And the two countries that most people choose are India
• 29:02
  Speaker 10: in Nigeria and the standardbill. So wow, yeah, if you
• 29:06
  Speaker 10: give me money to go to Nigeria, I'm not going.
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: Under Standard Bill. So so.
• 29:14
  Speaker 10: Opening up Africa would be beneficial for Africans because even
• 29:19
  Speaker 10: you look at you look at what the boarders did
• 29:22
  Speaker 10: to us.
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: They did more.
• 29:24
  Speaker 10: But then also also if you look at it also,
• 29:28
  Speaker 10: it's going to be it's going to have an effect
• 29:31
  Speaker 10: on both sides.
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: Because I remember the some times Na opened its border
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: with so Mania for food for not so long.
• 29:39
  Speaker 10: If you remember so long and you remember what happened
• 29:42
  Speaker 10: there were attacks all over. Ashabab coming in and in
• 29:46
  Speaker 10: as much as maybe it's not Al Shabab as an
• 29:49
  Speaker 10: entity about terrorism, you know, most of the terrourisms that
• 29:52
  Speaker 10: we have is controlled terrorism. But apart from that, there
• 29:56
  Speaker 10: are also groups of people that are not the bigger
• 30:00
  Speaker 10: terrorism network, but that does kidnapp it's abductions. You know,
• 30:05
  Speaker 10: it's not really connected to the bigger But now this
• 30:08
  Speaker 10: are this a group of people who, for example, have
• 30:11
  Speaker 10: one in Nigeria, I can't remember the name that Pure
• 30:14
  Speaker 10: Leaders abductions its people. It adducts foreigners working in the
• 30:18
  Speaker 10: oil mines and then it releases them for ransom.
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: So now those are some of the things that we also.
• 30:24
  Speaker 11: Have to look at.
• 30:24
  Speaker 10: I don't know how how for example, US opening the
• 30:28
  Speaker 10: border with so Malia fully opening the bottom so Malia,
• 30:30
  Speaker 10: how detrimental that would be to.
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: Internal security.
• 30:38
  Speaker 10: But opening up the boarders because you look at even
• 30:41
  Speaker 10: some of the reasons that for example, the leaders rejected
• 30:46
  Speaker 10: Roma's proposal to have because he was advocating for both,
• 30:51
  Speaker 10: LA is advocating for but now on a bigger, on
• 30:54
  Speaker 10: a bigger scale, that is not having an Africa without boarders. Yes,
• 30:59
  Speaker 10: and you look at for example, all Tanzania, it's happening
• 31:03
  Speaker 10: in Tazania right now, with them saying, well, then us look.
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: At it from both angle so that we don't look
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: like we are by at least just look at it.
• 31:10
  Speaker 10: From Tanzania's point of view and look at it from
• 31:13
  Speaker 10: the larger Africans point of view.
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: So when Tanzania, when the government of Tanzania says it's
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: looking out foreign us because they're taking up even.
• 31:24
  Speaker 10: The basic jobs and the basic businesses to Tanzania should ran,
• 31:29
  Speaker 10: it reminds me of a few years ago in Kenya,
• 31:32
  Speaker 10: and we hate Chinese, these people even selling even booking
• 31:36
  Speaker 10: in the streets. Yes, yes, yeah, and that I remember
• 31:44
  Speaker 10: people people brought a lot of uproar because how can
• 31:47
  Speaker 10: you have Chinese doing even the basic work that we
• 31:51
  Speaker 10: Africans should be doing. But then I remember that I'm drinking,
• 31:54
  Speaker 10: we have all these I remember thinking that they really did.
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: That go us. I mean, they did a good one
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: on us because.
• 32:06
  Speaker 10: We had a problem because the Chinese were doing the
• 32:11
  Speaker 10: basically low level jobs that we think we should be doing,
• 32:17
  Speaker 10: selling maize on the streets. But then we have all
• 32:20
  Speaker 10: these expatriates doing all these high level jobs.
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: That Africans qualify for and that Africans should also be doing.
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: But we never.
• 32:29
  Speaker 10: Complain because we really do not think, we do not
• 32:32
  Speaker 10: believe should be doing those jobs.
• 32:34
  Speaker 7: Right, I get it, I get your.
• 32:38
  Speaker 10: Level jobs that we think we serves, you know, selling
• 32:41
  Speaker 10: mais on the streets, hockey throats, selling sweets. We felt
• 32:46
  Speaker 10: offended were taking our jobs. So that's why I say
• 32:51
  Speaker 10: we did that. We really need a good one on
• 32:53
  Speaker 10: us to a level that we consider ourselves so low,
• 33:00
  Speaker 10: yourselves so low that when they take over all they
• 33:04
  Speaker 10: For example, when we had Cuban doctors coming to ken
• 33:08
  Speaker 10: and taking over the doctors in the country, that.
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: Was not an issue. I mean, that's what we do
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: not think we that is qualified.
• 33:18
  Speaker 10: But when the Chinese famine and the amazing the streets,
• 33:21
  Speaker 10: we are offended. So that reflect more on how I'm saying.
• 33:26
  Speaker 10: They really did a good one on us to a
• 33:28
  Speaker 10: point that we view ourselves. Because it's one thing for
• 33:34
  Speaker 10: people to disrespect you. I always say that it's one
• 33:37
  Speaker 10: thing for disrespect you.
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: It comes with face.
• 33:40
  Speaker 10: Sometimes you'll be too successful and people will hate on
• 33:42
  Speaker 10: you because it's successful.
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: But there's nothing as.
• 33:47
  Speaker 10: Painful and as destractive as when you start disrespecting yourself.
• 33:52
  Speaker 10: I mean they disrespect you too much that it raps
• 33:55
  Speaker 10: on you, and you start disrespecting yourselves as a people.
• 34:01
  Speaker 10: To appoint that to full of fenders because the Chinese
• 34:04
  Speaker 10: man is poking in the streets, you feel like that
• 34:07
  Speaker 10: it me was supposed to be poking, not you.
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: You're supposed to be building the road, right, doing the
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: high level jobs that you work to me.
• 34:18
  Speaker 10: But then if you look at the Tanzania, you look
• 34:21
  Speaker 10: at the Tanzania scenario, you look at this into it,
• 34:25
  Speaker 10: maybe look just to realize that people taking on the
• 34:28
  Speaker 10: low level of jobs in in Tanzania. And then he
• 34:31
  Speaker 10: decided to burn on the foreigners. So did he did
• 34:33
  Speaker 10: he burn on the foreigners? Including was it just for
• 34:38
  Speaker 10: Kenyans or did she burn all the foreigners?
• 34:42
  Speaker 8: Yeah, because she said all non citizens. So definitely you're
• 34:48
  Speaker 8: not a citizen if you're a Kenyan, if you're Dundant,
• 34:50
  Speaker 8: you're not a citizen of Tanzanier. You're not Africans also,
• 34:56
  Speaker 8: I believe so because they're not a citizen of Tanzania.
• 34:59
  Speaker 7: So yeah, you cannot actually run a business.
• 35:02
  Speaker 10: There, Okay, if that's that's what her economics, and and
• 35:08
  Speaker 10: and and her thinking tells her the power to her.
• 35:12
  Speaker 10: But I think that's a stupid move to make, because
• 35:15
  Speaker 10: at the end of the day, the more people come
• 35:17
  Speaker 10: to your country, the more people investe for You've you've
• 35:21
  Speaker 10: denied me an opportunity to go open a restaurant in Tanzania.
• 35:25
  Speaker 10: Wehi should have employed six Tanzanians. How is that going
• 35:29
  Speaker 10: to be an addition to you? But I remember Tanzania
• 35:33
  Speaker 10: has had this. It's it's it's almost like it's something
• 35:36
  Speaker 10: that I can't understand because there was one time when
• 35:39
  Speaker 10: they banned I think a lorry of chicks that are
• 35:42
  Speaker 10: coming from Kenya, live chicks. If you saw a bit, Yeah,
• 35:46
  Speaker 10: they banned a whole lorry of live chicks that are
• 35:49
  Speaker 10: going to Tanzania has always had I really have never
• 35:52
  Speaker 10: really understood Tanzania, to be honest, So I was not
• 35:55
  Speaker 10: even surprised when they they made that directed. But I
• 36:00
  Speaker 10: don't think it's going to be beneficial to the tanzan
• 36:03
  Speaker 10: and economy. Then you because opening up your economy, what
• 36:08
  Speaker 10: you can do is renulated. Opening up your economy and
• 36:11
  Speaker 10: regulating it is going to be more beneficial.
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: To your people than not. And that is why you
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: look at what is happening.
• 36:17
  Speaker 10: There is almost let me work on it, a financial
• 36:22
  Speaker 10: boom happening in the UK. Everybody, every corrupt person, every
• 36:27
  Speaker 10: corrupt politician, every rich billionaire is investing in Dubai and
• 36:32
  Speaker 10: the U and.
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: Happening.
• 36:37
  Speaker 10: You look around of the reasons why that is happening,
• 36:39
  Speaker 10: it's because almost everything there is zero LTD it's it's
• 36:44
  Speaker 10: it's it's almost everything is. The taxes are almost zero
• 36:48
  Speaker 10: every so you can literally ragister business in.
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: Dubai and open it in.
• 36:55
  Speaker 7: Wow.
• 36:56
  Speaker 10: Yeah, and now you see every every Contrafrican politician is
• 37:02
  Speaker 10: taking their money to the Yes, yeah, really does not
• 37:06
  Speaker 10: here where the money comes from.
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: It's gonna been a fity for people at the end
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: of the day.
• 37:11
  Speaker 10: I mean, the more you investing in Dubai, the more
• 37:14
  Speaker 10: you invest in Kantaris, the more you invest in those countries.
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: The highest the standards of living for the people.
• 37:21
  Speaker 10: So whenever you got the money, whenever you stole it
• 37:23
  Speaker 10: from and you look at that is why I'm a
• 37:28
  Speaker 10: believer that free trade, yes, ends up being more beneficial
• 37:33
  Speaker 10: to countries than actually locking up your borders. And I'm
• 37:37
  Speaker 10: yet to see a country that boomed because it knocked
• 37:42
  Speaker 10: out its borders.
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: Of other countries.
• 37:44
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that makes sense because Ghana had actually adapted the
• 37:48
  Speaker 8: same thing to actually be a viasive free country for
• 37:53
  Speaker 8: all Africans, which is actually booming.
• 37:57
  Speaker 7: Up their GDP.
• 37:58
  Speaker 8: That's the only way we should have that because the
• 38:01
  Speaker 8: fact that already the borders are a tragedy to our
• 38:04
  Speaker 8: is not working for us. The best we can do
• 38:06
  Speaker 8: right now is actually have free trade and that means
• 38:09
  Speaker 8: we can freely move around our own continent because we
• 38:13
  Speaker 8: all want and I believe in the time we have
• 38:14
  Speaker 8: that mindset because we have a lot of people right
• 38:16
  Speaker 8: now who are super confined in the mentality that you're
• 38:21
  Speaker 8: Ganda and you're Kenya, and you're Tanzania and you're South African.
• 38:24
  Speaker 8: They have that, you know, I think it's the self
• 38:27
  Speaker 8: of I don't know how to say, the fully confine
• 38:32
  Speaker 8: themselves into that whole capacity of you know, we're different,
• 38:36
  Speaker 8: and I believe that's how Also, the global is actually
• 38:42
  Speaker 8: too over because if we're all united, we're a powerful
• 38:46
  Speaker 8: force one hundred percent. But also on the last factor
• 38:51
  Speaker 8: that I mentioned that have been used to be a
• 38:53
  Speaker 8: blowcage to the African community is religion.
• 38:58
  Speaker 7: What's your take on religion?
• 38:59
  Speaker 8: Because we can see also our government right now always
• 39:03
  Speaker 8: using religion to actually gravitate citizens to want their air
• 39:09
  Speaker 8: quotes inspiring to do in the country, which doesn't actually
• 39:15
  Speaker 8: add up. If there's any chaotic moment happening or people
• 39:19
  Speaker 8: protesting fast thing they're gonna do, they're going to run
• 39:22
  Speaker 8: to the church and offer this good, uplistic motivational talks
• 39:27
  Speaker 8: that will make people view them as you know what,
• 39:31
  Speaker 8: they are good people, they respect, respect the higher sauce.
• 39:35
  Speaker 8: So do you what's your take on that, because that
• 39:40
  Speaker 8: has actually been used since we could definitely.
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: Understand that's how you.
• 39:53
  Speaker 10: That's why, for example, I don't know what to call
• 39:57
  Speaker 10: it religion, religion as it as it was introduced in Africa,
• 40:04
  Speaker 10: the biggest side of ever, the biggest psychological operation ever
• 40:09
  Speaker 10: that happened because I mean the whole I think I
• 40:13
  Speaker 10: will literally.
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: Be banning, Uganda will be.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: And then.
• 40:20
  Speaker 10: You know, all these corruption scandals and the only thing
• 40:23
  Speaker 10: that people we think is really we really need to pray.
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: For this country, right, And so it became.
• 40:33
  Speaker 10: It became this tool of control and I don't know
• 40:37
  Speaker 10: the best way to put it, but it became this
• 40:40
  Speaker 10: this tool of control.
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: That now for you look at you look at.
• 40:47
  Speaker 10: And I'm not going to say that it became because
• 40:49
  Speaker 10: that was the original purpose, because you look at you
• 40:52
  Speaker 10: even look at the letter that King Leopold road to
• 40:56
  Speaker 10: the missionaries in in Congo, and he specifically tells them
• 41:02
  Speaker 10: to be very careful with their wording.
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: He tells them, you need to tell the negro that
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: happier the poor.
• 41:11
  Speaker 10: You know, riches and you need to tell you need
• 41:17
  Speaker 10: to let the you need to let the negro know
• 41:20
  Speaker 10: that his reaches are not here on that but in heaven.
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: And then the negro will look up and then we'll
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: tell his riches in us as he waits, but he
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: is in heaven.
• 41:28
  Speaker 11: And it worked, and it.
• 41:30
  Speaker 10: Worked so perfectly to a level that you know, the
• 41:35
  Speaker 10: biggest business that happens in Africa is that business of
• 41:38
  Speaker 10: selling hope. We sell hope to our people and they
• 41:43
  Speaker 10: bite and bite avardently. Because in as much as I
• 41:46
  Speaker 10: have not had food.
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: To it today, you know this is just for now.
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: My riches are in heaven, and in heaven I never
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: sleep hungry, and so I do not really need to
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: question my government now on why I do not have to.
• 42:00
  Speaker 10: Do it, because you know, happy at the poor, So
• 42:05
  Speaker 10: I am poor, end happy and I'm waiting for my
• 42:08
  Speaker 10: riches later.
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: And we took the question of accountability away from the people.
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: We we we became so accustomed to.
• 42:21
  Speaker 10: You know, the story is there are things that you
• 42:22
  Speaker 10: will tell somebody that you'll talk to a foreigner. It
• 42:26
  Speaker 10: only takes you talking to a foreigner to understand how
• 42:29
  Speaker 10: dysfunctional is a society.
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: Were For example, imag imagine explaining to.
• 42:34
  Speaker 10: Somebody who does not live in Africa that if you
• 42:37
  Speaker 10: own a public transport we go in Africa every day,
• 42:40
  Speaker 10: you have to pay the police money whether or not
• 42:44
  Speaker 10: you've broke you you've committed any crime, any you broke
• 42:47
  Speaker 10: any traffic offense, by default, you have to pay. It
• 42:51
  Speaker 10: sounds like a mafia date.
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: By default, you have to pay pri just to use
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: a starting road.
• 43:00
  Speaker 10: Imagine explaining to somebody that at one point the the
• 43:06
  Speaker 10: the Kenyans football the Kenyan athletics team went for a
• 43:10
  Speaker 10: tournament and they did not have Jesus to change because
• 43:14
  Speaker 10: somebody stole their jazy money and so they had to
• 43:17
  Speaker 10: wash their jesus overnight and we wear them in the morning,
• 43:20
  Speaker 10: the same one you used yesterday. You have to wait
• 43:22
  Speaker 10: tomorrow and the day to tomorrow because somebody distole the
• 43:25
  Speaker 10: money that was meant to You know, you look at
• 43:27
  Speaker 10: something we have normalized.
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: Incompetency so much that it's normal for.
• 43:35
  Speaker 7: The other day.
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: We learned that the has financed the expressive because it
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: was there, and that it was there, and I think
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: the standard the daily nation is not wrong, and we
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: moved on like nothing happened.
• 43:51
  Speaker 10: Right, you know, we realized, we realized that we pay
• 43:53
  Speaker 10: a certain family money every time we use the space.
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: Damn, that's crazy, right, and every with their lives. I
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: remember there was one.
• 44:04
  Speaker 10: Time when we learned about the Pandora taps, and it's
• 44:07
  Speaker 10: about this family that all be all these offshore accounts,
• 44:12
  Speaker 10: and the whole country was shocked for like.
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: Fifteen minutes, and on the sixteen minute we continue with
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: our lives. Right, That's how That's how they really did
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: that good one.
• 44:24
  Speaker 10: And as the going that they know, if for example,
• 44:27
  Speaker 10: something comes up, all you need to do is come
• 44:29
  Speaker 10: up with a stile operation and the people will forget
• 44:33
  Speaker 10: that it happened, you know, bread and circusts. If everybody's
• 44:38
  Speaker 10: questioning why this happened, you only need to pay these
• 44:43
  Speaker 10: young people from mist Lands to throw this extravagant wedding,
• 44:46
  Speaker 10: and now the whole country will be talking about how
• 44:49
  Speaker 10: a certain group of people from Westlands threw a five
• 44:52
  Speaker 10: hundred league and weddings and before you know, that's that's now,
• 44:57
  Speaker 10: that's not the discussion of the day until something else
• 45:00
  Speaker 10: hands up and then we learn that Ben is beefing
• 45:03
  Speaker 10: with Otiller Brown, and now every other thing that had
• 45:06
  Speaker 10: happened now the whole discussion, in the whole corner in
• 45:10
  Speaker 10: the country.
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: Who's the better is to be brown?
• 45:14
  Speaker 11: Look at that?
• 45:15
  Speaker 7: Look at that, And that's what's really happening right now. Honestly,
• 45:19
  Speaker 7: that's what really happening.
• 45:19
  Speaker 8: And I actually agree with you with what you've said
• 45:24
  Speaker 8: that they've actually studied. Maybe they've learned that from the
• 45:28
  Speaker 8: white man that's studied. How Africans are, you know, maybe
• 45:34
  Speaker 8: they don't want to go in depth with what they have,
• 45:38
  Speaker 8: who they are. They just want something that is so easy.
• 45:42
  Speaker 8: And that's why we do this exchange of money with
• 45:45
  Speaker 8: our real resources, which is the real deal of wealth,
• 45:51
  Speaker 8: you know, like the city I think they call it.
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: I think in the bundles they call it. Do you
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: just have to give them? Nadia starting to talk about.
• 46:02
  Speaker 10: You know, whatever was happening, if something was happening, if
• 46:06
  Speaker 10: you are mad about something, yeah, something to talk about.
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: And somebody was eaten by the ais or I don't know.
• 46:17
  Speaker 10: Yeah, who's not for those league nails.
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: And that's what you're gonna talk about.
• 46:26
  Speaker 7: So true because you sit down with other individuals and
• 46:30
  Speaker 7: that's what they want to talk about. I get it.
• 46:31
  Speaker 7: It's like, it's what's really happening in in the you know,
• 46:35
  Speaker 7: in social media.
• 46:36
  Speaker 8: But does it what has it benefit me by the
• 46:39
  Speaker 8: end of the day, you know, if I talked about
• 46:40
  Speaker 8: what you're saying, what's trending?
• 46:42
  Speaker 7: Who did this and this? But as you said, it's
• 46:44
  Speaker 7: so true.
• 46:44
  Speaker 8: They want to keep you in that in that mentality
• 46:48
  Speaker 8: or that energy or you cannot actually ascend into your
• 46:52
  Speaker 8: higher sauce because if you do that, you'll start questioning things.
• 46:56
  Speaker 8: And how I talked about the fact that we do
• 46:59
  Speaker 8: have this block days which have been actually formed for
• 47:02
  Speaker 8: us not to really assernd into a full authenticity as
• 47:07
  Speaker 8: the melanated people, because if we.
• 47:10
  Speaker 10: Do, it's called energy harvest in the in the you know,
• 47:17
  Speaker 10: you have so much energy and we can't live it unharness.
• 47:20
  Speaker 10: So now we have to give you something to really
• 47:25
  Speaker 10: disturb your mind, and and and and the best way
• 47:28
  Speaker 10: is for me to make sure that you never run
• 47:31
  Speaker 10: out of dramas and theaters, and.
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: So I make sure there's always.
• 47:38
  Speaker 10: Something coming up. There's always this new story trending, and
• 47:42
  Speaker 10: it's it's the same. It's the same strategy that even
• 47:45
  Speaker 10: I know you're about to finish the same strategy that
• 47:48
  Speaker 10: even corporations have adopted in because they live in a
• 47:53
  Speaker 10: capitalistic world. In consumer reasin, they make sure, especially with you, ladies,
• 47:59
  Speaker 10: I feel strusted.
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: With that they adopted.
• 48:01
  Speaker 10: They make sure that the main goal is to make
• 48:04
  Speaker 10: sure that you hate yourself, because if you then.
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: Consumer is in thing. So they have to make sure
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: that you know that your skin is not.
• 48:14
  Speaker 10: The most beautiful. Somebody is a better skin out there.
• 48:17
  Speaker 10: They have to make sure that you understand that. And
• 48:20
  Speaker 10: they come up with new terms for everything. They will
• 48:22
  Speaker 10: come up with even a disorder for you not concentrating.
• 48:27
  Speaker 10: They'll call it, I don't know whatever term they'll come
• 48:30
  Speaker 10: up with, all these new amens.
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: All this.
• 48:32
  Speaker 10: They make sure that you bought a new car isly,
• 48:35
  Speaker 10: but they sell you that your car is not anything.
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: There is a better car. There is this new.
• 48:41
  Speaker 13: If you don't have this car, then you're meeting a
• 48:44
  Speaker 13: new car.
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: You are nothing.
• 48:47
  Speaker 10: And then you buy the new car, and then another
• 48:50
  Speaker 10: year they come up with another one. They make you
• 48:53
  Speaker 10: feel that now your guy is not fit. So that's
• 48:56
  Speaker 10: that's that's the same. It's the same cycle you talk about.
• 49:02
  Speaker 11: The more you talking about psychological mind control.
• 49:05
  Speaker 7: Yeah, we'll come, mister news. How are you doing.
• 49:09
  Speaker 8: I hope you're doing amazing this afternoon, but I'm actually.
• 49:15
  Speaker 7: I'm sorry you're winding up.
• 49:17
  Speaker 11: So you're winding up.
• 49:18
  Speaker 7: We're almost winding up.
• 49:20
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I got I got it late. Yes, I was
• 49:24
  Speaker 11: busy knocking somebody in the mouth.
• 49:28
  Speaker 7: That's what you bet. You know, this is a good thing.
• 49:32
  Speaker 7: You gotta put people in the spaces.
• 49:37
  Speaker 11: That you gotta do what they don't do right now.
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: I was another.
• 49:41
  Speaker 11: That was another. That was another chat from on TikTok
• 49:45
  Speaker 11: trying to talk to you.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: The brother got you got the diasteral Tutter, the young
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: ting the dude that understood right that Africans are easily propaganda.
• 49:58
  Speaker 11: Too, and they and the white white people study us.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: So but you see, like I said, you can do
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: that that aspra ward, I told you it's not it's
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: not Africans against African Americans. African Americans against African It's
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: not organic, right, see me knowing that it's not organic.
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: If somebody pulled the strings from behind the scenes, the CIA,
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: because Africa is starting to finally rise and wants to
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: take back its resources and shout to Africans that understand
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: that your poverty chats.
• 50:26
  Speaker 11: They start to learning that them TikTok.
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: These Africans, I'm talking that your poverty is fake or
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: it's orchestrated.
• 50:33
  Speaker 11: You're to make poverty so the soul.
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: So that's where I was at. So there's a fight
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: for African people to stay for guys on this planet.
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: So don't get confident kind that ASPRA wars or hatred
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: towards other African.
• 50:48
  Speaker 11: People where they be Coculia kamba you.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: And to buy whatever, see what's coming from and don't
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: get caught up until like this times. What the more
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: saying about psychological everything they do, the Africans and psychological
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: because they kept you in poverished and they kept you
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: poorly educated to understand when you see a beef happening,
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: step away from it, don't get emotional and they say
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: what who is this benefit, I'm gonna argue with this
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: other African and who may behind this that I do
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: not see? They might become Who who's behind me hating
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: this other African? And what problems to what I ever
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: have with this other African?
• 51:30
  Speaker 11: What why am I supposed to be hating on them?
• 51:33
  Speaker 11: What purpose? And then who does it benefit for me
• 51:36
  Speaker 11: to hate on him or hate on her? Because it doesn't.
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: Benefit me to be hate for the other African people?
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: So who doesn't benefit? So that's my uh uh any
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: statement I missed, I missed uh conversation I postic said.
• 51:51
  Speaker 8: I was late.
• 51:52
  Speaker 11: I was another.
• 51:53
  Speaker 14: I was another chatteroal on TikTok talking to Africans and
• 51:56
  Speaker 14: Africans Americans trying to make them understand that this hate
• 52:00
  Speaker 14: that you have, when it's covert, it's not organic, is
• 52:04
  Speaker 14: to make sure these other people keep power on the planet,
• 52:08
  Speaker 14: who have stolen everything, so everything is psycholized safety.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: The more just said you get, you get caught up
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: with with with distractions, things that are not important, like
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: I got to tell them. The more I said some gags,
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: some kind of witness happened in Kenya or something, some
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: celebrities or something like so, so that's to keep.
• 52:29
  Speaker 11: You distracted.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: Of other uh things that actually happened on the ground.
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: And Kenyon maybe the finance bill, the Kings. I've been
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: happy about certain policies that have been passed. Because all
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: celebrity drama is always distraction.
• 52:44
  Speaker 11: What does it mean in your life?
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: That's that's why they got Instagram and hybody's posting nonsense
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: on Instagramming and.
• 52:51
  Speaker 11: All that big social media. It's all fake, all distraction.
• 52:55
  Speaker 8: Because we were talking about the conversation about is so
• 53:02
  Speaker 8: important and also that's why and that and that's.
• 53:05
  Speaker 5: What it's under attacked.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: So as you said that, that's what I've been talking
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: about in the in the chat room.
• 53:10
  Speaker 11: They got the.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: African Americans who are always champion Pan Africanism. Right now
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: they've been sya. Now you got all these young Black
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: Americans who are mostly morons.
• 53:20
  Speaker 11: I don't want to talk about.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: No Pan Africans. Africans don't even like us and they
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: ain't never did ship and glove them. And so I'm
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: trying to explain to the young person, when did your
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: beople of Africa and what they done you when they
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: came over here. They've been disrespect throwing buff Is that
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: your have they all been disrespectful? For one, you can't
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: put everybody in the same fot. Okay, understand you're being Sia.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: This is Sia is in his hands that you can't see.
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: And the major threat they told you is African people
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: globally unified.
• 53:55
  Speaker 11: We are the number one population on the globe. Okay,
• 53:59
  Speaker 11: and they know this, so they see.
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: You trying to now reach out to Africa, to Brazil,
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: to Jamaica, all African.
• 54:06
  Speaker 11: People around the world.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: You're the majority, and this frightens the ship out of
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: white power. To understand you played with other Africans that.
• 54:16
  Speaker 11: You know, is that in your benefit?
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: What is your what is your difference? And trying to
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: reason it out with them? Don't take every African and.
• 54:27
  Speaker 11: A broad stroke, okay.
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: This agreements are usually personal, not as a community. Okay,
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: you had some problem with what African guy, and we
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: had a problem with all African people. And don't ever
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: forget that you're African. You African Americans are our Chinese,
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: call yourself Indians. You're disturbed in the head. You're an African,
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: whether you like it than that. So that's what's going
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: on in every town. They got, they got psyops going
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: on stuff because because the African is doing to other
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: that what pat Africa is.
• 55:02
  Speaker 8: Coming back to ourselves regarding who we are. We're talking
• 55:07
  Speaker 8: abouts which have been used for many Mini Mini's hunjury
• 55:12
  Speaker 8: to actually block our ascendant in regards to who we
• 55:16
  Speaker 8: are and use the political sector.
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you call it? Political pull us? Political things?
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: So they came in with a broup, but first they
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: came in covertly to take the take over Africa. Then
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: there was too many Africans, so they said we must
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: like like like like the border sip must psychogy. So
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: they come to Africa and that's why the Africans never
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: talked the history numbre. They come to Africa, they starts
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: studying Africa. They say, God, damn these negroes of richest ship,
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: how can we steal it from them? And this time
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: my opinions are fact. How can we steal this ship
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: from these from these negros? They have they have We
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: have nothing that they need.
• 55:57
  Speaker 11: They have everything.
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: Remember, Africa's the land you've been put in a bake poverty.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: You look at you like, oh, Africa is poor. Africa
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: is not poor, You're poor.
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: Africa is not poor.
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: So the Europeans come in and say what can we
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: just say, what can we do to take this continence
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: from these motherbuckers?
• 56:13
  Speaker 5: It's okay?
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: And they said, on the way we can do we
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: got to break their back spiritual We've got to say
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: all these spiritual systems are wicketing bad and force them
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: into our that's been to get the Christianity Islam forced
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: on black people. Said we must make them worship us.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: That's all way we've be able to take these people
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: over from us. As the more to say, psychos, you
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: manipulate their mind and then we get be able to
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: get control over Africa because we have nothing they need
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: to want. They're already wealthy, so we can't offer them anything.
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: So they got all the best land, they got all
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: the cows and sheep and gold and everything. They we
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: got nothing that they want or need heat right, so say.
• 56:55
  Speaker 11: So what can we do? So we'll come in and
• 56:57
  Speaker 11: destroy their minds.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: So that's what you say, making up with the Africans
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: now taking their mind back.
• 57:03
  Speaker 11: It's a hard process.
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: The Africans are streaming about Jesus or our lives or
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: whatever fig deed it is. But the youth and the
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: African shout to them, but I said, nah, this Jesus
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: ship and this our ship don't work. While we're bort
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: that the Africans are starting to realize they didn't know
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: the loss of the colonization, that they're the riches.
• 57:24
  Speaker 5: Cotten it.
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: That you've funded that you've funded everybody else's civilization where
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: everybody yours has been what underdeveloped?
• 57:35
  Speaker 5: That's on purpose?
• 57:39
  Speaker 8: Joining think you think you think you we were actually
• 57:41
  Speaker 8: whiting up family. The conversation has been white and Africanism.
• 57:45
  Speaker 8: It's so important and why it has always been destroyed.
• 57:50
  Speaker 8: We actually took dissected different factors or areas, the political
• 57:55
  Speaker 8: of spirituality and also the kind of foods we consume,
• 57:59
  Speaker 8: these other areas where we do have block from us
• 58:02
  Speaker 8: ascending into our true identity.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: Well, you s most of most Africans. Most Africans as
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: everything on jobship. So uh, just a few minutes ago,
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: those Africans are afraid to be African. Here are times
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: you're praid to be a You told Africa is evil,
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: You told your rights and your customers yourself. Now you
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: see job had white people right around African looking for shaman.
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: I told you the salmons went on underground because because
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: all this groupie religious game Christian sanity, Islam and all
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: of them Salmons went on the ground because the white
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: man knew that was the real knowledge.
• 58:41
  Speaker 11: They were trying to get the nose and kill him.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: So like job he had on the ship that that
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: that a young Tenyan lady. He said he came to
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: Tenure and then.
• 58:49
  Speaker 5: He had to leave.
• 58:50
  Speaker 11: He left you.
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: They been trying to kill They've been trying to kill
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: the Salmon family.
• 58:57
  Speaker 8: I want to share a video right away, just a
• 59:00
  Speaker 8: video of actually everything we're always talking about right now
• 59:03
  Speaker 8: to givers a pointer of who we are, the most
• 59:07
  Speaker 8: powerful individual of all.
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: Time people are. And then look up how old Europeans are.
• 59:15
  Speaker 4: Let's do that.
• 59:16
  Speaker 11: This is Google, It's not Google wasn't made by a
• 59:19
  Speaker 11: black person.
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: So no, one thousand years old? So African one thousans?
• 59:27
  Speaker 5: How old? Seven million years old?
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: All right, brother, No, I'm gonna get this air drod
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: wor air drome to be logical. Seven million years ago
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  Speaker 1: there was no Jesus, there was no job way whatever
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  Speaker 11: Dying for millions of years?
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  Speaker 11: Did they all go to hell?
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  Speaker 5: I'm just asking you that.
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  Speaker 11: And they're all in hell because they know your Jesus,
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  Speaker 1: Because Africans have been there for millions of years, millions
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  Speaker 11: So you're four thousand years ago?
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  Speaker 4: I say six thousand?
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