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Jaguars Happy Hour | Pro Day, Free Agency Acquisitions & Top Draft Prospects · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Thursday, March twentieth. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Out is brought to you by dream Finders'
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  Speaker 1: Homes and now a guy who has Alabama in the
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  Speaker 1: Final four, but then the batteries on the Xbox war
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  Speaker 1: out J P. Chack and welcome in.
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  Speaker 2: It is Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by dream Finders Homes,
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  Speaker 2: the official homebuilder of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Busy hour ahead
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  Speaker 2: on a not so busy week at the Miller Electric Center.
• 0:41
  Speaker 2: Kind of no man's land of the off season. But
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  Speaker 2: we'll get to the free agency aftermath coming up. Pro
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  Speaker 2: Day season is here as well, and rule change proposals
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  Speaker 2: announced yesterday. We'll crush some of those, I'm sure, and
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  Speaker 2: make one of the teams who proposed them.
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  Speaker 1: That's coming up. We're untinted to excel.
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  Speaker 2: Am Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube JP Shadwick with Jeff Logaman.
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  Speaker 1: Good afterno, good afternoon, JP. How the heck are you good?
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  Speaker 1: Doing good? Good?
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  Speaker 2: How's your bracket by the way, tournament?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Great? Great? Was going on?
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  Speaker 3: I have the only reason that I know that the
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  Speaker 3: bracket exists right now and that there's a tournament going on.
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  Speaker 3: Is because when I walked in, you had basketball on
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  Speaker 3: your laptop and somebody came in and asked you. Dylan
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  Speaker 3: y asked you how your bracket was doing. I was like, uh,
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  Speaker 3: I don't. I don't like I like basketball. I like
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  Speaker 3: watching it, but I just haven't watched enough of it
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  Speaker 3: to actually pay attention and have an opinion.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, let's be honest. What happened he walked in?
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  Speaker 2: I said, what time does Rutgers play, and that, oh, they're.
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  Speaker 3: Not in So, yeah, you're kind of needling. I was
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  Speaker 3: not kind of That was I was getting after it
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  Speaker 3: a little bit brutal.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was. That was fair, it's expected what
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  Speaker 1: And I.
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  Speaker 3: Got an education because I found out that Rutgers actually
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  Speaker 3: has two top end prospects for the NBA draft.
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  Speaker 1: You fooled me, And.
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  Speaker 3: How in the world can you have two top prospects
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  Speaker 3: that are looking to be drafted in the top ten
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  Speaker 3: and then you stinked where you're not in.
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  Speaker 1: The I mean march madness.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, you know we've had that around here, where we've
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  Speaker 2: won an off season, You've had great players come in
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  Speaker 2: and all of a sudden things get real.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it. I get it. I get it,
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  Speaker 1: but I perform.
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  Speaker 3: Look, I would rather watch Just to be honest with you,
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  Speaker 3: I would rather watch a spring football game than to
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  Speaker 3: watch just a tournament game for me. But now once
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  Speaker 3: it gets down to like the final game, I'll watch it,
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  Speaker 3: But all of the other games leading up to it.
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  Speaker 3: N the NFL, I just must watch TV for me.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna watch every game that I possibly can. College
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  Speaker 3: football occasionally, but the NFL to me is much watched
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  Speaker 3: must watch TV.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't watched Oops all season. I really just I
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  Speaker 2: don't watch much of it. But these two days today
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  Speaker 2: and tomorrow are great background TV days for me. Like
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  Speaker 2: it's on, there's always a game, it's from noon until midnight,
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  Speaker 2: there's basketball.
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  Speaker 3: Golf has always been good background for me. It's a
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  Speaker 3: good nap time, total total.
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  Speaker 1: Good nap time.
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  Speaker 3: On Sunday afternoon, you know, turn the golf on. They
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  Speaker 3: start talking like Michael Roy talking real soft, and it's
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  Speaker 3: just like I start getting heavy. Seriously, when I was
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  Speaker 3: when I was playing football, uh, Sundays were like my
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  Speaker 3: in the spring were my known nap time. I would
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  Speaker 3: turn the golf on, then the lights close, the blinds
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  Speaker 3: put on golf, and then after a big meal, turn
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  Speaker 3: the volume down just a little bit where they started
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  Speaker 3: talking on nice and soft it's.
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  Speaker 1: Over, guaranteed, Nap, guaranteed Nap, that it was a guy's
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  Speaker 1: name that did golf forever, Jim nance. He still does golf,
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  Speaker 1: I mean still doesn't Who who was the one that
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  Speaker 1: was doing the players? Oh that's uh, that's NBCU dan Uh.
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  Speaker 1: I forget his last.
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  Speaker 3: Did a good job? Oh yeah, they did a good
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  Speaker 3: job entertaining tournament though.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, did you go? I went Friday? I
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  Speaker 1: was there Saturday.
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  Speaker 2: Friday was the perfect day, light, wind, great beautifuct weather,
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  Speaker 2: beautiful day. We had an event with a quarterback out there,
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  Speaker 2: so that was fun. And then I think the coaches
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  Speaker 2: were out there a bunch on Saturday, a bunch of them,
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  Speaker 2: a chance to check it out, some of the guys
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  Speaker 2: that are.
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  Speaker 1: New in town. So a lot of Jaguar influence out there. Yeah. No,
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  Speaker 1: it was good.
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  Speaker 3: I got to chat with a lot of the coaches
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  Speaker 3: on Saturday, didn't watch a ton of golf, and then
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  Speaker 3: was going to go back out on Sunday, but the
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  Speaker 3: weather was a little bit prohibitive.
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  Speaker 2: And then a little bit a little bit. Yeah. Dan,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, is the NBC announcer Dan Hicks.
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  Speaker 1: Dan Hicks, not Dan Hicken Dan Hicks. Big difference, big difference.
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  Speaker 1: Now it's perfect weekend.
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  Speaker 2: They got it done, the playoff on Monday, and here
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  Speaker 2: we are back to football.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, back to football. Yes.
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  Speaker 3: And by the way, I had some great conversations with
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  Speaker 3: the coaches and Anthony Campanilli, me and him. Man, we
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  Speaker 3: chatted it up for I don't know, like an hour
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  Speaker 3: talking ball football.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it seems like a ball talking guy. He's great.
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  Speaker 3: Love his energy, Love talking with him, talking with Liam,
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  Speaker 3: talk with James basally was there, you know, shaking shock baby.
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  Speaker 2: Imagine that that was good. I had a good time.
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  Speaker 2: Love that Jaguars. You know, they had a big kind
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  Speaker 2: of first run at free agency, nine guys with James
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  Speaker 2: Gladstone here last week with us to go through most
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  Speaker 2: of those guys, all those guys. They've since added another.
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  Speaker 2: They added a tackle yesterday, Fred Johnson from the Eagles.
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  Speaker 2: He's been with a couple of other teams in his
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  Speaker 2: career as well. That just kind of continues a trend. Now,
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  Speaker 2: four new offensive linemen in the free agency wave, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure I'm gonna guess least more to come in
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  Speaker 2: the draft, So retooling offense.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think there's any doubt that there's more coming
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  Speaker 3: in the draft, and I think I think it goes
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  Speaker 3: to show you how in many ways that they overestimated
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  Speaker 3: the value of the current offensive line over the last
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  Speaker 3: couple of years.
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  Speaker 1: Now you have, you know, a completely.
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  Speaker 3: New regime come in, and that it has been the
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  Speaker 3: focus of attention immediately from the free agency standpoint. And
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  Speaker 3: like I said, I don't think they're done. I think
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  Speaker 3: they still got work to do. The nice thing is
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  Speaker 3: that what they've done so far will allow them to
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  Speaker 3: draft the best available player and not force a pick
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  Speaker 3: necessarily with that offensive line or really any position I
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  Speaker 3: think for the most part, but I would expect them
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  Speaker 3: in rounds one, two, or three to grab an offensive lineman.
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  Speaker 3: And I you know, when's the last time that they
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  Speaker 3: picked multiple offensive linemen in a draft. There may be
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  Speaker 3: multiple in this draft, could be and so I think
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  Speaker 3: it's going to be very exciting to watch. Look, I
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  Speaker 3: like what they've done. I love Patrick, it's McCarry.
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  Speaker 1: Carry and Hainesy.
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  Speaker 3: I think they're they're quality players, and I think that
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  Speaker 3: they can start. Fred Johnson, I think has been a
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  Speaker 3: really good backup over his career and I think that
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  Speaker 3: he will continue to be that for this football team.
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  Speaker 3: I think he'll actually come in to compete, you know,
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  Speaker 3: for a for a job.
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  Speaker 1: But is he going to win it?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, but I can tell you this, I
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  Speaker 3: think Fred Johnson's is a better backup than this football
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  Speaker 3: team has had over the last couple of.
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  Speaker 1: Years in the interior.
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  Speaker 3: So the guys that have been with this football team, yes,
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  Speaker 3: and are still under contract, you better be having one
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  Speaker 3: hell of an offseason, I can tell you that. And
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  Speaker 3: you bet you better get getting bigger, stronger, faster, smarter, better,
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  Speaker 3: all the above. If you had better not leave any
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  Speaker 3: stone unturned.
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  Speaker 1: Right because it's time, it's changing.
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  Speaker 3: There's no given positions. First year of the staff and
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  Speaker 3: the change of an organization that that always goes out
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  Speaker 3: to win.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's you know, we have this conversation with somebody
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  Speaker 2: in the building draft pick.
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  Speaker 1: I don't care, they don't care.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, how many positions players are guaranteed locks on
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  Speaker 2: this team right now?
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  Speaker 3: I mean there's the contractually, there's some guys I think
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  Speaker 3: that are not going anywhere I mean Trevor obviously with
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  Speaker 3: the guaranteed money.
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  Speaker 1: Josh Allen is obviously not going anywhere.
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  Speaker 3: Trevor Walker little new contract, guaranteed money, Trayvon.
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  Speaker 1: Is obviously not going anywhere.
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  Speaker 3: You know, a couple guys that just recently were signed
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  Speaker 3: last year, Eric Harmstead, the contract's prohibitive to where he's
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  Speaker 3: going to be here.
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  Speaker 1: Probably this year.
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  Speaker 3: Gabe Davis probably in the same boat. You know, there
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  Speaker 3: are contracts to where some guys can represent a cost savings.
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  Speaker 3: There are some guys that will cost you a lot
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  Speaker 3: of money to get rid of, and unless you have
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  Speaker 3: a certifiable replacement at a very low cost, then you're
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  Speaker 3: gonna end up keeping that player for a period of
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  Speaker 3: time until that money goes down to be able to handle.
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  Speaker 1: It as a hit.
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  Speaker 3: Not an easy situation to be in when you have
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  Speaker 3: players like that. And I think that's the one difference.
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  Speaker 3: If you look at this year's free agent class and
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  Speaker 3: you compared it to pass free agent classes, look at
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  Speaker 3: the guaranteed money for real, look at the guaranteed money
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  Speaker 3: that this draft class, Okay, excuse me, the draft class,
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  Speaker 3: the free agent class that just got signed, and you
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  Speaker 3: compare that to pass free agent classes that this team
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  Speaker 3: is signed. The guaranteed money is dramatically different, dramatically different,
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  Speaker 3: And I'm not exactly sure of the numbers, but I
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  Speaker 3: think you could take all nine, maybe even ten, count
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  Speaker 3: Fred Johnson all ten, and add up the guaranteed money
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  Speaker 3: of those ten and it may equal what Eric Armstead
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  Speaker 3: and Gabe Davis got last year.
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  Speaker 1: It's possible, entirely possible, which goes back to what I've.
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  Speaker 3: Been saying, and I think what James Gladstone believes in
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  Speaker 3: is that the lifeblood of every franchise is the draft,
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  Speaker 3: and you have to draft well. And if you look
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  Speaker 3: at the past free agent activity this football team, you
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  Speaker 3: can understand that this team has not done a good
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  Speaker 3: enough job drafting because they've had to pay a lot
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  Speaker 3: of money to supplement the deficiencies that this team has
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  Speaker 3: had in the draft, and those.
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  Speaker 2: Guys a lot of times aren't good either that in the past.
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  Speaker 2: Right now, you're doubling down on it.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, to be honest with you, I mean, look
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  Speaker 3: at Gabe and Eric Armstead.
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  Speaker 1: They produce.
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  Speaker 3: I'm about trying to pick on them by any means,
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  Speaker 3: and I believe that they can be productive this year,
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  Speaker 3: but last year, did they produce to the level of
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  Speaker 3: expectation of the contract? Simple answer and easy answer is no.
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  Speaker 3: Can they get to that point this year?
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  Speaker 1: I hope so.
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  Speaker 3: But last year it didn't happen, and there's a lot
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  Speaker 3: of reasons for that. It gave was hurt quite a bit.
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  Speaker 3: Eric Armstead, in my opinion, was playing out of position.
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  Speaker 3: You had a defensive coordinator who quite honestly didn't have
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  Speaker 3: a clue. One of the worst coach football teams in
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  Speaker 3: Jaguar's history last year by Ryan Nielsen. And I hope
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  Speaker 3: all of that can change. But again, to go back
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  Speaker 3: to it, you've got a draft. Well, you look at
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  Speaker 3: the teams that are historically good year in and year out.
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  Speaker 3: They're good because why they draft well every year, and
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  Speaker 3: until you draft well.
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  Speaker 1: You will not be there. That's right.
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  Speaker 3: So here's hoping, okay, that this change and you've got
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  Speaker 3: a new regime that you will start to pick better
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  Speaker 3: in the draft to change the direction of this franchise.
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  Speaker 1: That's my hope.
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's come back in a minute and a
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  Speaker 2: couple of minutes at least, Well, we'll get into the
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  Speaker 2: draft this year, all right.
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  Speaker 1: Pro Day season this year.
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  Speaker 3: I saw that somebody was televising a pro day live today.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's an NFL network thing.
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  Speaker 3: They're going to different college pro days now, right, They've
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  Speaker 3: done that for a number of years.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, what are they desperate? Yeah? The people will
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  Speaker 1: watch that, so I guess you know the reason. Oh no,
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't watching.
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  Speaker 3: I was walking down the hallway on my way here. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: they have it, and I saw and it must have
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  Speaker 3: been an NFL network that was on one of the TVs,
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  Speaker 3: and I saw that this pro day was being televised.
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  Speaker 2: As soon as if it's a quarterback that's big, okay,
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  Speaker 2: they'll show his workout, you know.
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  Speaker 3: And and they all got shirts and everything like they
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  Speaker 3: get at the combine.
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  Speaker 1: Do let's go back in a moment.
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  Speaker 2: We're untinted XLAM, Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube and
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  Speaker 2: this is Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Dream Finders Homes.
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  Speaker 4: I hope what they see is someone who cares. I
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  Speaker 4: hope that shows in my play. I think it does,
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  Speaker 4: because I do. I care a lot.
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  Speaker 1: I care about my teammates, I care.
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  Speaker 4: About the team. Those are the things that I want
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  Speaker 4: to be evident in my play. They want to see
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  Speaker 4: a guy finishing all the way of the whistle, picking
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  Speaker 4: up his teammates first one.
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  Speaker 5: There to give him.
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  Speaker 4: If I'm not doing that, text me, shoot it, tweet me,
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  Speaker 4: tell me I'm not doing it, because that's that stuff's
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  Speaker 4: important to me.
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  Speaker 2: Is Robert Hainsey brought it in a free agency of
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  Speaker 2: the offensive line will define center for the Jags and
• 13:33
  Speaker 2: welcome back It's Happy Hour. Did he just encourage people
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  Speaker 2: to text him, to tweet him, tweet him texts?
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  Speaker 1: They're not going I don't know if that was smart
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  Speaker 1: or not that they're gonna do it either. What but okay,
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  Speaker 1: you're opening it up.
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  Speaker 2: Jaguars Football presented by Fresh from Florida. It's always in Season.
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  Speaker 2: JP Shadwick with Jeff Logeman. We're at the Hyundai Studios
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  Speaker 2: at the Miller Electric Center on ten ten XL, Jaguars
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  Speaker 2: dot Com and Jaguars YouTube for Jaguars Happy Hour.
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  Speaker 1: It is Pro Day season.
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  Speaker 3: And what would you rather watch Pro Day or NCAA Basketball?
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  Speaker 2: It depends on who I'm watching on the Pro Day,
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  Speaker 2: Like if it's a quarterback, right, we were chasing quarterback
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  Speaker 2: back in twenty fourteen, it was we actually went and
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  Speaker 2: covered Pro days. We went to Johnny Manziel's. We went
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  Speaker 2: to Teddy Bridgewaters, we went to Blake Portals. They were
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  Speaker 2: all televised. And you know when the quarterbacks throw in
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  Speaker 2: a quarterback heavy top of the first right, they're gonna
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  Speaker 2: see those on TV all the time, you know. So
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  Speaker 2: I think it's just a matter of who it is now.
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  Speaker 2: Johnny that day at A and M had like two
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  Speaker 2: balls hit the ground.
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  Speaker 1: Mike Evans was running.
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  Speaker 2: For him, and like George Bush and Barbara Bush were
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  Speaker 2: there on a golf It was a scene, man, I
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  Speaker 2: remember that. So it was interesting television, I'm sure to watch.
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  Speaker 2: But now there's one conference at least that has kind
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  Speaker 2: of got it together because all the schools usually have
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  Speaker 2: their own pro day.
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  Speaker 3: You were telling me about this pretty unique. The Big
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  Speaker 3: Twelve has pro days all together.
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  Speaker 1: So all the schools.
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  Speaker 3: How many schools in the Big Twelve, Well, at least twelve,
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  Speaker 3: Well it's not twelve anymore, it's more than that.
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  Speaker 1: It's probably fourteen.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, But they send their prospects all to Dallas, to
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  Speaker 3: the Star where the Cowboys headquarters, and Jerry's no doubt
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  Speaker 3: making a little bit of money on that guests and
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  Speaker 3: so but it's March eighteenth through twenty first, different positions
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  Speaker 3: each day. Okay, I think it's a brilliant idea because
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  Speaker 3: all the scouts can just stay there and see all
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  Speaker 3: the players in one place. Yeah, you save at least
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  Speaker 3: NFL teams are saving on a lot of travel expenses.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because a lot of these schools are you know,
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  Speaker 2: they have to sec at least they schedule them where Okay,
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  Speaker 2: you can hit Auburn one day, Alabama the next, and
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  Speaker 2: then go to wherever the day after that, and it's
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  Speaker 2: like a week or two where everybody's together.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And with the spawning of a lot of these things
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  Speaker 3: like you're talking about, I think that that's going to
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  Speaker 3: further minimize the combine world workout part, which is not
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  Speaker 3: good for the NFL's ratings at the Combine. But you know,
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  Speaker 3: if you're a player, where would you rather work out?
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  Speaker 3: Would you rather work out in February at the NFL
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  Speaker 3: Combine or would you rather wait until middle latter part
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  Speaker 3: of March to give yourself a little bit more time
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  Speaker 3: to get I guess you could say even better at
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  Speaker 3: running or whatever else you've got to do. From a
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  Speaker 3: drill standpoint, at the Pro day, you'd rather wait right,
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  Speaker 3: I mean you give you a little bit more time
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  Speaker 3: to prep. A lot of guys coming out of a
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  Speaker 3: season might be nicked up, beat up a little bit,
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  Speaker 3: and they've been playing football. The body needs a little
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  Speaker 3: bit of time to recoup and recover, and then you've
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  Speaker 3: got to train for physical testing. I mean, the march
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  Speaker 3: aspect of that is so much better.
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  Speaker 2: Now in the February combine, you're gonna get official forty
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  Speaker 2: time numbers, like they have the computerized system and everything, right,
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  Speaker 2: you get to take the ones.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: At schools a little bit with a grain assault.
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, if you got your guys there, you know, yeah,
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: then that's different. Then you're trusting your guys.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: For example, the Alabama one yesterday, okay, Jalen Milroe reportedly
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: ran a four to three okay, and I saw that.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: I'm like, there is no way you don't think so well,
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: it comes out later most had him in the mid forest,
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: you know which pretty fast? So fast.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: Was this guy bo Jackson?
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: I mean there might have been one guy that had
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: him at a four to three seven, And of course
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: that that grabs more JP, you know what I take it.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: Come on, he's a good.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: More clicks out of four to three seven in the
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: headline than you do four four five. And here's the
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: reality about Milrose O great athlete. Yes, and if a
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: team is going to consider drafting them, I hope that
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: you're willing to have a little patience.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: Just like the Colt Therough the ac South Tennessee Titans.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: He is the man for you. Not everybody is a
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: Jaalen Hurts. You know.
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: There's not a lot of quarterbacks that can make that
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: conversion from being a running quarterback in college to being
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: a passler, you know, and Jalen Hurts had a really
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: set of optimum circumstances to really grow into and there's
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: not many jobs that are going to be available that
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: are going to be like that the way it was
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: set up in Philly for him to be able to
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: grow when a running game and an offensive line was
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: so good. Most of the teams that are going to
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: in need of a quarterback don't have an offensive line
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: like that, they don't have a running game like that,
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: they don't have a team like that, and so the
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: quarterback's going to be expected to play quarterback right away.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: You know, Jalen Hurts didn't have to do that so much.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: They didn't lean on him as much. So Milrose is
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: a fine athlete, don't get me wrong. And he's had
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: games where he's been absolutely unstoppable. And I wish him well.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: I wish him well.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: I hope he can develop into that guy, but he's
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: he's a ways away. I wish he would have.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: Stayed at Alabama for another year. And let me ask
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: you this question, as an Alabama alone, do you wish
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: that he had returned for another year?
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: There were moments, and I don't I'm not going to
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: speak for the whole fan base where I'm not up
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: there whatever.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: Speaking for you. There was some frustration.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: Around him, around him at times, and because it was
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: not as consistent as it could have been, or.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: What did he get from a nil standpoint, I mean,
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: just out of curiosity, because I mean the reality is
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: is a college football is professional football now. And if
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: the University of Alabama felt like, hey, look, we can
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: spend the same amount of money and get a better,
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: better player, do you think they could have been the
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: ones that were saying, hey, look, you know we're probably
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: not gonna re up you for next year.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: You might want to consider turning pro.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: According to this article, I don't know if I trust
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: this website or whatever you know they're saying I had
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: a total innile of evaluation of one point six million. Okay,
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: I had a few different things.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, you never know.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: But then also, I mean, he's won some big games there, like, oh,
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: he's Auburn on the final play on this crazy throw
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: on a fourth down.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: I mean, he's had moments where he's been brilliant, and
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: he's had moments that he has been.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: Not nearly good enough.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: And that just is a true, true sign of a
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: quarterback that's just not quite ready yet.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Cam Ward is the one that most everybody's mocking number
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: one of the Titans these days.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that'll be interesting to watch. You know, have you
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: watched all of these guys yet? I have not watched
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: the quarterbacks yet, but I have. I've been watching.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: I've just started this week, and so.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: I'm about seven guys deep, and so every day it'll
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: be five to seven guys.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: What are you looking at?
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: I watched the top seven guys in the draft, six
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: seven guys in the draft so far, which you know,
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: because I mean the Jaguars picking at five, I mean,
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: obviously that's kind of and that's where I really put
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: my concentration and energy on is with those guys. I
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: can tell you that from watching the guys that I
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: have watched so far. Travis Hunter, I don't know where
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: i'd play him.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: I don't. And here's the thing.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: I think he might be co number one overall pick
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: of this draft, and he may be number one overall
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: pick for some other reasons. The way that he plays
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: wide receiver, it's it's effortless. It's he's the most efficient
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: athlete that maybe I've ever watched play football on offense.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Ever, he doesn't.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: Waste any steps and he and he makes it look
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: so easy when it's not easy. And the amount of
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: times that Shader Sanders is off target that Travis Hunt
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: or makes him look good. Right, And I you know,
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: because I don't watch a lot of college football, I
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: never really paid attention to that, but watching the film,
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: this guy makes Shdr Sanders look even better than what
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: he may be just because got great range. And then
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: once he gets the ball in his hands, the speed,
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: the efficiency, When I say efficiency efficiency, he's running fifty
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: yards down the field and a lot of times guys
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: have to ziggin zag a whole bunch of times to
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: get fifty yards. He's not having a zigginzag. He's very efficient, okay,
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: with his energy and his motions and his movements to
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: get to that fifty yards. One of the most efficient
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: guys I've ever watched film on.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: And then he turns around and comes back and plays defense,
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: which is crazy every down.
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know, And because he has such great
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: ball skills is why he's a surefire candidate to play
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: wide receiver full time and to maybe dabbling defense vera.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: A lot of people saying the other way because he
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: worked out as a corner, But you can put a
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: package at wide receiver.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: Would you be comfortable here? And here's a here's a question.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: Okay, give me a top Hall of Fame corner revs.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: K Derell Revis. Give me a top Hall of Fame
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: wide receiver Jerry Rice. Who would you rather have, Jerry
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: Rice or Rivas Island.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: I'd like to have both, of course if I could.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: But if you had to pick one, it's an offensive league.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: I think I'd like to score points. And but if
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: you have a shut down corner that shuts down half
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: your field, is he that?
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know?
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: If he's that, he's good. I think it's a great question.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's a great question. Where is
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: he going to play?
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you we had on Westwood one. We had
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: the first game of the season two years ago, Colorado
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: at TCU, and it was how is this thing going
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: to work? All these transfers are coming in, all these
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: guys from Jackson State, should Sanders the quarterback, Travis Hunter
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: was gonna be the big guy at FSU.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: Is he can he make the jump?
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: Oh?
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: It was do whatever he wants? Unbelieved he had an
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: interception in the game. I mean, it was a back
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: and forth ball game. Both teams are pretty good. TCU
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: was coming off their loss in the championship game. They
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: didn't have all their horses, but I mean it was
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: impressive what they did the first day, first day out,
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: at least it.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: Comes I think also when from watching it, I went
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: into it with the expectation that there would be packages
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: for him on offense, and that these packages would be limited.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: You know, maybe they keep them on the left side.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: Maybe he's only a slot, maybe he's only an X.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: They moved him all over the place. There was no
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: limitation on his learning curve for offense, which impressed the
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: hell out of me. So I think that's that's a
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: great question because everybody assumes he's going to play defensive
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: back and then he'll dabble in offense. I don't know
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: if that's necessarily true or not. I think that he
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: could be an offensive player that could dabble in defense.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: Great player, winner, the speed, yeeah, he's good.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: Anders ought to be thanking him all the time, all
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: the time. And so a little bit ago, I said,
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: my co number one picks who was the other one
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: is Abdul Carter Penn State number eleven, Penn State, which
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: that was Michael Parson's number.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: There was a lot of people's numbers.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: Yes, that's the number there that you wear when you're
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: like the seven at l s U exactly, lebar Arrington,
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: those all those guys who.
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: Are even stud stud line them up anywhere, uh, defensive end,
• 25:58
  Speaker 6: as a stand up spinner, as an inside linebacker.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: I think if you'll remember, right JP, going back a
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: few years and that I said when Miles Garrett was
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: coming out that there's not many It's not very often
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: that a guy comes out that's just the physical freak
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: and Miles Garrett was one of those guys, right, and partly.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Because the length.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: Now, look, this guy doesn't have the length, okay, but
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: he's got that freakish athletic ability that is very rare,
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: and his stamina is gosh. I would want to say,
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: it's comparable to the very inside linebacker that we have
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: on this football team, Foyer, who has I've said this before,
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: some of the greatest stamina or has the greatest stamina
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: of any player that arguably.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: I've watched a duel.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: Carter's got the same type of stamina on speed and
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: it's full speed. Doesn't seem to get tired, you know.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: But here's the one thing that I will say about
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: like Travis Hunter and Abdul Carter, and these guys are
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: obviously just freaks. I don't know anything about their character.
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: I don't know anything about their intangibles. I just look
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: at the film. I don't know if if you know,
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: if they're dumb as a box of rocks or geniuses.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: I don't know that. Uh So, when when I throw
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: an opinion out there, it's based on what I watch
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: on film, and that's it. And those two guys are
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: are at the top of the list. I think clearly
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: it's those two guys at the top. Everybody else is
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: fighting for third place. There you go the log even guarantee,
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: it's not a guarantee. I mean, it's only an opinion.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: If Travis Hunter is there at five.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: Day long over Graham over long, take them all day long.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: He's got, he's got.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: You put him on offense with Brian Thomas, with bt J.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? Uh?
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: And then give him packages on defense. Uh, as you
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: can tell. I kind of liked the idea of him
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: being an offensive player versus a defensive.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but this team needs cornerbacks too. Oh I know that,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: I know that.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: But uh yeah, it's it's a great debate.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: I'd love to be in the conversation the room, listening
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: of the conversation when they fight over where they want
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: to play him. I would love the coordinate, love to see.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Going out put up your dukes.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: I would love to see a A survey and the
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: only way that you would get to be a fit.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: It was an anonymous survey of gms around the National
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: Football League and give you know, tell them, give me
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: which side of the ball that you think he deserves
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: or needs to be on that.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Love to see that that could change my team, right,
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: if you're stacked, that's what I'm saying.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: I would love to see that the survey of all
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: thirty two, and I bet you it's closer than what
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: a lot of people were originally thinking on Travis Hunter.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: Let's come back in a moment, and we got to
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: get to these rule change proposals.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Some of them are stupid, Yes, said it. Why you'll
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: find out? Why are you calling things stupid? Well? Have
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: you heard these? Yeah? Actually, okay, I don't know. Probably
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: agree with me. I gotta feeling you agree with me.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: Are you calling? Are you calling Green Bay stupid?
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: I'm calling well, but I'm calling their proposals Okay, I
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: would never call it organization. Well, I mean the organizations
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: are the ones that are putting the proposals up.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: Well, that's fine if that's what it says, it's what
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: it says. Okay, you are calling stupid. In a moment,
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: it's Jaguars Happy hour.
• 30:14
  Speaker 7: We were talking about, you know, just building the culture,
• 30:16
  Speaker 7: you know, and being a cornerstone and that that that rebuilding.
• 30:21
  Speaker 7: I've always wanted to be a guy to you know,
• 30:24
  Speaker 7: be known for that. You know, be known for a
• 30:26
  Speaker 7: culture and be known to, you know, change culture. So
• 30:30
  Speaker 7: I love a good competition and love a good challenge.
• 30:34
  Speaker 7: So for like, this was the perfect place for me
• 30:37
  Speaker 7: to go out there and show that I belong in
• 30:39
  Speaker 7: the NFL and belonging to be as one of you know,
• 30:43
  Speaker 7: known as one of the guys that you know, changed
• 30:44
  Speaker 7: the culture.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: Jordan Lewis Corner most likely a Nickel welcome back. It's
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: Jaguars Happy Hour, JP Shatter, Jeff Logman or at the
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Hyundai studios inside the Miller Electric Center.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: He's going to be both by the way, you know,
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: moving around. H Yeah, I think he.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: I think Jordan Lewis is going to be Nickel and corner.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: What I love about him he comes in, He's got
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: sweatshirt on that says grind grind mode. Okay, I'm all
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: for that. You know, it doesn't come in you know, fancy,
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: you didn't want thats sunglasses and all that. He's here
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: to be a pro and he has been a pros pro.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: Look.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: The one thing I think that this regime is doing
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: a really good job of is vetting guys, you know,
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: not bringing I'm trying to think of the James Gladstone
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: terminology to not bring the wrong types into the ecosystem. Okay,
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: the floor of the roster and elevating the room of
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: the ecosystem by them just being them them.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're intangibly rich, so they just have to be themselves.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: I love it. I love the way the way he talks.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: But I mean the best part about it is that
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: you got to have that belief and you got to
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: stick to it. And he's sticking to it. But I
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: like Jordans say, he's gonna play nickel and he will
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: play corner. He will play both.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Love that. Daly's play schedule getting busy. What do we got?
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: It's been busy, It'll be back busy again in May.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: May Tents, Teddy Swims, you got t pain May thirty.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: First Old Dominions on the list June six. Sticks is
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: June second, Vampire Weekend June twelfth. The full schedule and
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: tickets available at Daly's Place dot com.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: All right, yeah, I.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: Wonder if Old Dominion is from Virginia. The reason I
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: asked that is, I mean that's I mean, that's actually
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: a university in Virginia's University Norfolk, Virginia I don't think
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: it's in Norfolk.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: I bet you it is. You think it is. I
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: think we're gonna find out.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: I guess we will. I'm searching Old Oh they're from
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: from Nashville. Old Dominion.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, nobody's from Nashville. They may have gotten together in Nashville,
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: but nobody's from Nashville. They chosen because it's the nickname
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: for the US for the members of the group have
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: links to Virginia.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: And this is great radio because I'm googling on the air.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: It's university Old Dominion. It's in Norfolk. Okay, thank you.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: Show you what I know.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: I don't even know from there, man, I know this
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: what the heck?
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: All I know is at Norfolk is a great navy town,
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: it is. And a little bit to the south of
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: there's got a great place called Virginia Beach. Yes, and
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: then Sandbridge Beach, a little bit south of Virginia. You
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: spent some time over there, did you have it? As
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: a kid, We used to vacation there. It was the
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: middle of nowhere, lots of sand, lots of sun.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: It's time to get into these rule change proposals. This
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: is the time of year we're closing in on the
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: NFL annual meeting.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: Known as the Owner's Meetings. That's at the end of
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: the month.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: So there are rule change proposals, a rule for BiLaw proposals,
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: and club resolution proposals.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: There are five eight in total. Okay, what do you
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: got we'll go quick. This is by Detroit.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: They want to eliminate an automatic first down as a
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: penalty imposed for defensive holding an illegal contact.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: I like that. I'm okay with that. We're a defensive guy.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: You would like that?
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: Well?
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: I mean, look, you know it's it's been such an
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: offensive slanted way, you know, let them.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: I think that's okay.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: But then there's no penalty for holding a guy. You're
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: just gonna get holding all the time. Why don't you
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: just grab?
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: What would it be?
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: It would be a yardage, right, I mean, it's okay,
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: but it's still if it's not an automatic first down
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: what they're proposing, then it would be a certain amount
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: of yardage.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: Correct. I don't know there's that proposal that that's that's
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: the proposal. Okay, what do you got? What else? You got? All? Right? Next?
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: Green Bay. Basically, they want to eliminate the push.
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: Play and green Bay needs to shut up, I mean seriously,
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: and the keeper stop the play, okay, stop complaining about
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: it being a play that gets people hurt. And somebody, actually,
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: one of the national analysts puts this out the other day,
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: and somebody responded with your video of you describing how
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: to stop it when the Jaguars stopped it twice against
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: the Eagles.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: Got to beat the center up. That's it. You gotta win.
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: And if you look at the Eagles percentage of wins
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: from new center versus Kelsey the old center, the percentage
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: of wins dropped a little bit, I believe, imagine that. Yes,
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: what else you got till Bay needs the man up?
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Come on.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: Philadelphia wants to align the postseason and regular season overtime rules.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: They want both teams with an opportunity to possess the
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: ball regardless of the first possession outcome, and a fifteen
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: minute overtime in the in the regular.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Season, No, leave it the way it is.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: Okay, So you like the postseason rule being different, I
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: do minutes both teams get the ball.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: I do not not regular season it's the regular season
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: is a grind. Don't need to add potentially, because here's
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: The reality is that coaches will coach differently if they
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: know that they have a guaranteed possession in overtime.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: And excuse me, in the regular season. So no, I
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: don't like that. And by the way, defense is allowed
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: to play defense.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can play defense. You can get a team
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: stopped or hold them to a field goal.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: I don't why are they this proposal. I don't know
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: what else you got. Those are the three playing rule proposals.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: There are two club bylaw proposals. They're both by Detroit.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: Detroit's been busy.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: They want to amend the current playoff seating FORMATT to
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: allow wild card teams to be seated higher than division
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: champions if the wildcard team has a better regular season record.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: I do not like this at all. I don't like
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: that at all. Either. Division championships matter.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: It totally matters, and it makes end of the season
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: games interesting. Okay, So Detroit is just trying to capitalize
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: on what could have been for then this past year.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: If Minnesota had captured the division title, then Detroit would
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: not have had home field advantage. Correct, But Detroit won
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: They won a division, Yeah, because they could have lost
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: the division and then been a non top seed in
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: the NFC, and they wouldn't have had home games. They
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: would have gone to a team that had a lesser
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: record than them. Correct, Well, I don't like that because
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: you have to have the importance of winning the divisions.
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: It makes the game and the games at the end
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: of the year meaningful, totally meaningful.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: Detroit was fifteen to two to your point, Minnesota fourteen
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: and three. Correct, But if Minnesota doesn't like that, you know, don't.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: Lose three games. Guess what?
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: Well, but it was proposed by Detroit. I know, I'm
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: just saying, which they won the division. So I mean
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: like you would have thought that Minnesota would have propose that.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: Right in general, That's what I'm saying. If you don't
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: like it as a well, play better, play better when
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: you know when.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: Your division not that That's that's the beauty of saying
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: it's not that hard that of having divisions?
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: Is it?
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: Is it fair at the end of the day, Is
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: it fair to have a Minnesota Vikings team that was
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: fourteen and three that had to go on a road
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: Who do they play in.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: The first round? Remember how to Curio?
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: They played the uh and Rams had a lesser record
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: and they got they got whooped.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: Ye, so well yeah, sorry.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: I'd like division games. I'd like the importance of division games,
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: and you can make the schedule, particularly at the end
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: of year, more meaningful, as the NFL has done over
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: the last couple of years by having division matchups, And
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: if you take that away, then I think it lessens
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: the value of the end of the schedule and it
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: lessens the value of the division titles. Detroit can stick
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: it up the word something wow, okay, Detroit, I agree
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: with you. Another Detroit went on the BiLaw proposal. This
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: is to exclude from the ninety player limit a player
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: placed unreserve injured before or on the day of the
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: roster reduction of fifty three, unless such a player is
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: designated for returns. It's basically just like a roster management
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: into the preseason thing.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: So I don't know. Whatever.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: We all about more guys being available, that's fine. They're
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: kind of going that way.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: So they're trying to put guys on essentially on IR
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: before the final cutdowns and still have the capability of
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: bringing them back to the active RUSS.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's kind of the idea. Whatever, It's fine. I'm
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: okay either way. On that one.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: It doesn't bother me if you limit it, you know,
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: because you don't want them stashing a bunch of guys
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: on IR and then all of a sudden, you know,
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: you don't have other teams that can pluck guys off
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: of that roster.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know about that. It's got to be limited
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: in some fashion.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: We got three club resolution proposals to get through quickly
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: here by Pittsburgh. They want to permit clubs during the
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: two day negotiation period before free agency to have one
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: video or phone call with a prospective free agent and
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: his agent, a free agent and the player agent, and
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: permit clubs to arrange for the players travel upon agreeing
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: to terms with an unrestricted free agent, so they cannot
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: talk to the player right now until the start of
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: the league year. Those two days, they have to talk
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: technically with the agent during the legal tampering period. That's
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: all they want to do is to legitimize talking to
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: the player during the legal tampering period, which I'm totally
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: okay with.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: It's you know, but then again.
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: If you allow that to happen, then all of a sudden,
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: the illegal tampering period, because there's already illegal tampering going
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: on before the illegal tampering period.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: Now there's going to be even more illegal.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: Tampering prior to the illegal tampering period, which you'll be
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: able to allow to talk to the player. But then
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: teams will go ahead and try to talk to the
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: player before the league tampering period if they're now allowed
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: to talk to the club during that period, not this team.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: You see what I mean, It just doesn't end. I mean,
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: it's just it's a centralest thing. Come on, all right,
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: next one, we've got seven teams. Baltimore, Cleveland, Houston, Vegas, Minnesota, Philly,
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: and Washington are proposing to permit clubs to prepare kicking balls,
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: the k balls before game day, similar to what they
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: can do for game fo. Well, they used to allow
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: them to do that, but then they were like put
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: them in dryers and stuff.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: Right, Well, they were yees putting putting them in dryers.
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: They were rubbing the balls down, they were pressing them essentially,
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: trying to make the balls fatter, to make them more bouncy,
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: you know, to get more distance than everything else.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: I'm okay with that.
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: Let them let them doctor them up, you know, as
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: long as you know as long as each team gets
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: to doctor the balls, let them doctor the balls better
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: accuracy on field goals, longer field goals.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: I'm all for it.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: And then one more that's really not a huge deal.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: Washington wants to permit clubs that may qualify for the
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: postseason to get scouting credentials for two consecutive games played
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: by a potential postseason opponent in the final two weeks
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: of the regular season. So this is more just kind
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: of deep, deep football stuff. There you go, we're back
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: in a moment. Did you hate all these?
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: Did you? I think we're kind of fitting. I mean,
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: I'm okay with some. I don't like the playoff seating change,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: like keep it as Yeah, that's come on.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: And by the way, why don't we have to have
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: lasers do the first down this year?
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: Like what's wrong with the chain game?
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: You're gonna try that out instead of so are we're
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: going to eliminate the chain game?
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: No, they're still there as a backup. You sure, that's
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: what they said. Okay, I think that makes sense.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: Come on, if technology is there, then let's utilize it.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: Let's come back in a moment, hold that thought. This
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: is Jaguars happy hour.
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: We've done a lot of really successful things. It's out
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: every tool in the bag that you needed to successful.
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: So I told him, like, I'm here to help you
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: as much as as much as you'd like. I like
• 43:05
  Speaker 5: to think to my familiarity with the system and concepts
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: that we're gonna run and the way to operate. I
• 43:10
  Speaker 5: feel like that's gonna be beneficial for Trevor in the
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: whole room. And uh, I can't wait to get started.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: That is the voice of Nick Mullens, free agent quarterback
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: signed by the Jaguars.
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• 43:23
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• 43:38
  Speaker 1: Good Birmingham area guy, Nick Mullins is that right, where
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: do you go to?
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: Spain Park High School? Which didn't exist when I was
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: in high school? That's how old I am, Okay down
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: south kind of near Hoover and then he went to
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: Southern miss Okay. I think you get committed to like
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: UAB and then just changed went to Southern miss.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: I've got a little money under the table and changed
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: his mind. I don't know what's going on down.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: There whatever, but I mean the guy's been around, he's
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: had some starts in the league.
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: He was even under the table and he was playing
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: or was it over the table? Oh, I think it
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: was under back then, you know, if you know, you know.
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: I think it's a great I don't say great. It's
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: a good thing that you sign a quarterback that has
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: familiarity with the system. I think it helps the room.
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: I think it helps the roster as a whole when
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: you have a quarterback and that doesn't necessarily, like I said,
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: not necessarily the starter, but when you're entering a new
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: era of a new system, to help that along.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: And so I like that.
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: Good job by Liam and James and Udinsky to bring
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: in a guy that's got that familiarity.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah the last three years with Minnesota and yeah, I
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: think it's gonna be interesting. I've kind of I was
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: asking this question kind of off the record with some
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: guys coaches, and so when you when you have Liam,
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: Khane and Udinsky coming in, right, is the terminology now
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: the same as it was in Tampa. Is the terminology
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: the same as it was in Minnesota? Or do you
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: create a completely new language so that nobody knows what
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: your audibles are? Terminology?
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: That's it, right, right? So to what he can use
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: Rosetta stone and figure out what you're doing.
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: The whole new language, well, I mean it's you know,
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: it's I think it's interesting. And that's a and from
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: what I understand that they have completed a new language
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: for it. Okay, so I'm sure some of the concepts
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: will be the same, but I'm from what I understand
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: and I've been told, is that the language is different.
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: Now how different is probably there's different degrees than all
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: of that. But I and look, I hope that and
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure what the what amount of homework Trevor
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: can do now you know they have all these restrictions
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: much I mean, you know, they show up in the
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: buildings where he can be, what he can do, what
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: he can get, you know, which I think is just
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: a it's an archaic rule.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: Does you make any sense? You should you would propose that, Hey, let's.
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: Get absolutely absolutely, I mean some of the and look,
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: I understand why some of the rules have been in
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: place because of the union negotiated to limit the amount
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: of time that the players were getting asked to be
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: at the building. But the last time I checked, I mean,
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: just like in this football team's case, Okay, you've got
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: a quarter billion dollars committed to Trevor in contract. I mean,
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: shouldn't that quarterback be allowed to maybe have meetings with
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: coaches and learn the system. So I think that's the
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: part why the rules in place, that some might make
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: that more than just a hey, if you want to come,
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: They would make it mandatory, which I mean you could
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: argue that if you're paying tw hundred and fifty million dollars,
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: it should be mandatory. Look, it's professional football, Okay, this
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: is not college football where we're trying. These guys got
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: classes to go to. Okay, let the players come in
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: and work out in the building. Let them talk with
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: the coaches, especially when you have new regimes. I mean,
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: it makes no sense that you wouldn't encourage that stuff.
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: I think that the league obviously would like to see
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: that change. The Union, for whatever reason, holds on to
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: it like it's some piece of pie that can't be
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: given up without something great in return. Look, if it's
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: making the game better, then do it.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: But all right, you were a player REP, You're a VP,
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: weren't you the Union?
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think this rule is dumb when you played,
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: would you want this rule in place?
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: Absolutely?
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: I think there needs to be more access from the
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: players in the facility and the coaches than what is
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: what is today, you know. And I'm not saying that
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: they need to like start coming into work in February.
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying that, but I mean this restriction that
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: they have in place about limited exposure with the coaches
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: and everything is just it's ridiculous.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: Well, they have the rule in where if there is
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: a head coaching change, you get two extra weeks of
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: offseason program correct April seventh.
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you get one extra week essentially of OTAs. Yeah,
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: basically on top.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: Of that, right yeah. Yeah.
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: I mean look, I mean, if it's me, I want
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: to have my quarterbacks and someone guys getting the language
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: in March if possible. I mean, you know, look for
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: every team, I think that once their season ends ends,
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: there needs to be a period of time to where okay,
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: look can't do anything. And I'm for that, but I mean, yeah,
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: certain teams that were done the first week of January, right, yeah,
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: we were one of those, Okay, and now all of
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: a sudden, Okay, all of January to the first week
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: of February to the first week of March to the
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: first week of April. That's three months of essentially, Oh no,
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: you can't do anything with the coaches.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: You can't do any kind of.
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: Organized workouts or anything like that. Like I want my
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: guys in the building being supervised under professionals, okay, instead
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: of having to be a gym rat somewhere else.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: It's just it doesn't make any sense. Logs, we made
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: it through another hour.
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: I might again old and cranky or yes, I mean
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: you're getting very old. And that's not old and cranky though,
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: is it.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: It's old? I'll say that.
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: I mean shouldn't I mean, shouldn't a quarterback be able
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: to get a playbook and meet with the coach?
• 50:14
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• 50:18
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• 50:18
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• 50:22
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