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Mom, children, family dog MURDERED · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Four people and the family
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Speaker 1: dog murdered. Why I Meancy Grace, this is crime Stories.
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Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us here at Fox Nation
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Speaker 1: and Serious XM one eleven. And in an ironic twist,
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Speaker 1: the killer now blames the dead mommy for all the
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Speaker 1: murder and mayhem. What mommy wanted to poison and kill
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Speaker 1: the dog too? I'm not buying it. Let's kick it
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Speaker 1: off with our friend Ashley Afonso at Box sixty one.
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Speaker 1: The owner of Family Physical Therapy, Tony Tott, his wife,
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Speaker 1: and their three young children and dog have not been
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Speaker 1: seen or heard from in weeks, and my staff realized
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Speaker 1: that something's amiss, and they followed him, followed the online
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Speaker 1: stuff and said he's really missing. A Facebook page created
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Speaker 1: over a week ago by family and friends of the
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Speaker 1: family of five looking for answers and their disappearance. They
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Speaker 1: say the Todd family had recently moved to Celebration, Florida
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Speaker 1: from Colchester, but say that Tony had traveled back and
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Speaker 1: forth to continue to run his Colchester business. The community
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Speaker 1: still waiting for many answers to the questions about a
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Speaker 1: family that was loved by so many in this community.
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Speaker 1: Over the years in town. He always seemed very generous, helpful.
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Speaker 1: They were always doing things for the community. I know
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Speaker 1: around Christmas they were taking a collection for a family
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Speaker 1: and need. Really nice guy, really nice guy, beautiful wife,
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Speaker 1: three children, Alex, Tyler and Zoe between four and thirteen
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Speaker 1: years old. Even the family pet not spared by the killer.
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Speaker 1: But why And I don't know if you guys have
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Speaker 1: been to celebration, I have been there and after this
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Speaker 1: case went specifically to the crime scene. It seems like
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Speaker 1: it's something out of a Disney Well, actually it is.
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Speaker 1: It is a Disney suburb. Let's talk about that. Let
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Speaker 1: me introduce our awesome panel today judge, trial, lawyer, court
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Speaker 1: TV anchor Ashley Wilcott at Ashley Wilcott dot com and
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Speaker 1: mom of a teen doctor Bethany Marshall Psycholis joining us
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Speaker 1: from Rodeo Drive. Doctor Bethany Marshall joining us from Beverly Hills.
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Speaker 1: Cloyd Steiger thirty six years Seattle PD, twenty two on homicide,
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Speaker 1: author of Seattle's Forgotten serial Killer. Gary gene Grant at
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Speaker 1: Cloyd Steiger dot com. Professor Forensics, Jacksonville State University, author
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Speaker 1: of Blood Beneath My Feet, on Amazon and start of
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Speaker 1: a Brandy show on True Crime Network Poisonous Liaisons Joe Scott.
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Speaker 1: This is in the shadow of Disney, not far from Epcot, right,
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Speaker 1: yes it is. It's just right off of Property Nancy, actually,
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Speaker 1: and that's what makes this all the more bizarre. What's
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Speaker 1: it referred to is like one of those that you
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Speaker 1: would think that you would find four bodies in a house.
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Speaker 1: You know, when I went down there after the entire
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Speaker 1: family was found and wiped out. Clod Cloyd Siger dot
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Speaker 1: Com Cloyd, it was really eerie because it's, um, I
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Speaker 1: want to say, a cookie cutter community, but the homes
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Speaker 1: are so big and pretty, with green yards and trees
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Speaker 1: and tons of Disney stickers on all the cars. I
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Speaker 1: suspect that some of those big, beautiful houses are time shares,
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Speaker 1: where people have time shares so they can go spend
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Speaker 1: time at Disney, right, Cloyd. And you don't expect I
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Speaker 1: have a quadruple homicide at Disney. Yeah, that's right. But
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Speaker 1: you know, you like all the time, you never know
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Speaker 1: what goes on inside the doors of those idyllic neighborhoods.
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Speaker 1: I mean, every place has problems, but it is shocking
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Speaker 1: that it would happen there, and you're probably right. Those
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Speaker 1: are probably mostly vacation ronalds, Airbnbs and things like that.
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Speaker 1: You know, Ashley Willcott, I was talking the other day
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Speaker 1: about the Lorie Laughlin sentencing scandal and sentence in the
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Speaker 1: College scandal, and I was saying, why can't rich people
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Speaker 1: be happy? I mean, they've got it all. Between those
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Speaker 1: two they had one hundred million dollars in net Worth
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Speaker 1: and now that I want to compare that to this
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Speaker 1: beautiful family, wife, three children, family, dog, business, great business
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Speaker 1: and two multiple locations. Why as the whole family dead?
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Speaker 1: I mean, when you hear about a story like this,
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Speaker 1: you have to wonder why. But the sheer enormity of
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Speaker 1: a crime scene like this is overwhelming. Do you remember
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Speaker 1: the Fulton County Courthouse shooting? My friend Al Dixon. We
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Speaker 1: tried cases together, helped process that scene. I think it
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Speaker 1: was four days he was there at the courthouse, trying
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Speaker 1: to process a mass murder. That's hard, Ashley, and at
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Speaker 1: least all sort of problems at trial. You know what, Nancy,
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Speaker 1: It is hard, and you're right, because then do you
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Speaker 1: at trial? You have to deal with all the different
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Speaker 1: pieces of evidence to different victims. But let me suggest this.
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Speaker 1: You know, when you do have a crime scene with
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Speaker 1: that many victims, I would suggest that there's a higher
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Speaker 1: likelihood of finding some kind of evidence to link the
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Speaker 1: killer to the bodies. And the reason is because there's
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Speaker 1: more opportunity for mistakes quote unquote by the killer. There's
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Speaker 1: more opportunity to find DNA to find the weapons. So
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Speaker 1: I do think there's when there are more victims and
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Speaker 1: a bigger crime scene, it's a lot more work, it's
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Speaker 1: a lot more tedious, it's harder to try the case,
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Speaker 1: but you may have the good fortune of getting some
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Speaker 1: evidence to actually find the killer. The other thing I
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Speaker 1: have to mention Nancy, and I know that the other
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Speaker 1: guests just mentioned it, and just to reiterate, it does
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Speaker 1: not matter if people have money or not. Money doesn't
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Speaker 1: buy happiness. Well, I'd like to think it might buy
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Speaker 1: me happiness if I had it, but I will say
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Speaker 1: that those with money are not necessarily happier, and there
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Speaker 1: could be other reasons why those with money, or somebody
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Speaker 1: in a nice home like this end up dead. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I don't really get it to doctor Bethany Marshall's psychoanalist
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Speaker 1: joining me out of Beverly Hills at doctor Bethany Marshall
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Speaker 1: dot com. What really checked me at the beginning. You
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Speaker 1: got a wife, a whole family wiped out the baby,
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Speaker 1: Zoe just four years old. But the family dog. Who
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Speaker 1: would go to the trouble of killing the family dog? Waw?
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Speaker 1: This is a good question. Killing the family dog is
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Speaker 1: either overkilled like methamphetamine, somebody who is crazed when they
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Speaker 1: in the household, somebody who is engaged in the crime
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Speaker 1: of opportunity. They go in to steal things, the dog
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Speaker 1: starts to attack them. They try to take out the dog.
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Speaker 1: Then they're afraid that the family members can id them,
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Speaker 1: so they take out the family members. But although with
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Speaker 1: that theory it doesn't make sense because the smallest child
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Speaker 1: is just a toddler. I always think about the role
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Speaker 1: of envy and homicide. This was a neighborhood near the
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Speaker 1: happiest place on earth. Was this family envied? Were they resented?
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Speaker 1: Did somebody resent them? Was somebody stalking the mother? Had
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Speaker 1: somebody fallen in love with the mother. So many motivations
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Speaker 1: for homicide in this case. Take a listen to the
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Speaker 1: county Sheriff Russ Gibson on January thirteen, twenty Ocular County
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Speaker 1: Shrif's Debities respondent to do to reserve place in celebration
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Speaker 1: to assist federal agents for the Department of Health and
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Speaker 1: Human Services deserving a federal arrestaurant for Anthony Toad. Anthonytoka's
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Speaker 1: state of birth is September twenty, nineteen seventy five. Debuts
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Speaker 1: made contact with Anthony and the home along with federal
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Speaker 1: agents and he was immediately detained. A safety check of
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Speaker 1: the home was conducted where Debut's discovered four deceased individuals inside.
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Speaker 1: The home was immediately secured and a search form was
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Speaker 1: obtained by architectives. Detectives and forensic investigators began their investigation
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Speaker 1: and crime scene processing. The Medical Examiner's office also responded
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Speaker 1: to the scene and an autopsy was done the following day.
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Speaker 1: The reports of the autopsy determined that the cause of
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Speaker 1: death of the four decedents inside the home to be homicide.
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Speaker 1: Climb Stories with Nancy Grace. Guys, we were talking about
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Speaker 1: an tire family wiped out mom Megan, son Alex Tyler,
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Speaker 1: and little girl Zoe just four years old, including the
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Speaker 1: family dog, and a stunning twist as we go to air,
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Speaker 1: we learned the dad is now claiming his wife found
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Speaker 1: dead murdered all the children. First of all, I want
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Speaker 1: you to take a listen to this. We're still being
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Speaker 1: in a positive identification of the four deceased persons recovered
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Speaker 1: in the home by the Medical Examer's office, but based
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Speaker 1: on our investigation and the suspect statements, we strongly believe
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Speaker 1: that they are that of Megan, Alec Tyler and Zoe
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Speaker 1: based on the initial investigation to include the suspect statements.
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Speaker 1: The deaths have been determined to have occurred sometime towards
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Speaker 1: the end of December. Throughout the course, it doesn't indication, guys,
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Speaker 1: I want to go straight out to Joseph Scott Morgan,
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Speaker 1: Professor Forensics. The family had been there locked inside that
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Speaker 1: high end home at the Shadows of Disney and Celebration
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Speaker 1: for some time before they were discovered. What problems does
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Speaker 1: that present for the medical examiner? Because here we got
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Speaker 1: a real problem because now the dad, Anthony Toad, is
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Speaker 1: saying that his wife is the real killer, that she
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Speaker 1: murdered the children. I believe, he says with Benadrill, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: he talked about that. He talked about the use of benadrill,
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Speaker 1: which you know, the actual name of this stuff is
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Speaker 1: dife and hydromane, and it's in tons of stuff Sleeping
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Speaker 1: eight for instance. He even talked about tlin all PM,
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Speaker 1: which also contains bena drill. That makes us really our
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Speaker 1: dife and hydroman It makes us really groggy. So what
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Speaker 1: he's saying is she knocked the kids out and then
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Speaker 1: proceeded to brutally and I mean brutally Nancy OFC's crime
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Speaker 1: scene images, stabbed them to death, and she winds up
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Speaker 1: dead herself. So it's kind of thin. What really is
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Speaker 1: key here, though, and what can help investigators is the
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Speaker 1: fact that all of these bodies are actually contained in
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Speaker 1: the same location. And if weird to believe what we're hearing,
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Speaker 1: he wrapped these bodies as well. They were all wrapped
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Speaker 1: and covered in blankets, so that kind of preserves this scene.
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Speaker 1: It's not like it's a wild, frenzied scene all over
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Speaker 1: the house. They're contained in this one spot, which can
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Speaker 1: actually help take a listen to share for us. Gibson,
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Speaker 1: describing the homicide counts Anthony has cooperated with the investigation
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Speaker 1: and he has killing his white knotty years of the
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Speaker 1: day January twenty eight and her racial brin Alanto, thirteen
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Speaker 1: years of age born in September twenty six, two thousand
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Speaker 1: and six, Tyler Told eleven years of age born December thirtieth,
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Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, and Zoe Told, who was four
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Speaker 1: years of age born in July twenty third, two fifteen.
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Speaker 1: Anthony also killed their family dog, Greezy. Anthony has been
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Speaker 1: arrested on a warrant obtained by our detectives today from
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Speaker 1: multiple counts of homicide and one town of a femily
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Speaker 1: animal cruel leg I don't understand the dog part. I
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Speaker 1: don't understand any of it. Now Here is the dichotomy
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Speaker 1: to you, doctor Bethany Marshall, you're the psychoanalyst. He gives
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Speaker 1: a full confession. He's caught dead in the water. He
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Speaker 1: was this close to getting arrested on white collar crime fraud.
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Speaker 1: What he had was some type of a rehab, a
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Speaker 1: set a string of rehab clinics. So you get an injury,
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Speaker 1: say you twist your ankle or you have knee surgery,
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Speaker 1: you go to rehab and you get X amount of
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Speaker 1: rehabs under your insurance. He was fraudently, fraudulently claiming that
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Speaker 1: he had customers coming in enhancing their claims to make
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Speaker 1: more money. Okay, although it seems like the clinics, we're
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Speaker 1: doing fairly well. Quit paying any of his bills, had
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Speaker 1: eviction notices, the works. His monetary world was falling in
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Speaker 1: on him by his own doing. But what I don't understand.
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Speaker 1: After giving a full confession, he now claims he turns
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Speaker 1: the tables on his wife, claiming she's the killer. How
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Speaker 1: can that be? You give a full confession, then you
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Speaker 1: change your mind because he's not thinking Nancy is the
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Speaker 1: Somebody who's going to defraud an insurance company is somebody
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Speaker 1: who's not very aware that they could be caught. They're
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Speaker 1: not aware of how transparent they are and how sin
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Speaker 1: as Joe Scott Morgan said, the whole story is he
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Speaker 1: wrote a letter to his dad saying that his wife
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Speaker 1: gave the kids. I think it was a Benadryl pie,
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Speaker 1: putting pie, the painted dessert, a tail and all PM pie.
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Speaker 1: That she separated his shoulder and then woke them up
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Speaker 1: at eleven thirty at nine and stabbed and suffocated each one.
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Speaker 1: So the way he describes it using the word pie,
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Speaker 1: it's a word that we use for like a fun
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Speaker 1: dessert that you give children, or something that you do
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Speaker 1: on a Friday night when you're you know, making popcorn,
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Speaker 1: watching movie with your kids, and you follow up with
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Speaker 1: pie or putting or something like that. He uses kind
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Speaker 1: of a jolly word to describe a very grim situation,
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Speaker 1: which tells me that this is a man who has
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Speaker 1: no feeling. He's very cold blooded. He can't learn from
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Speaker 1: his mistakes. He can't see ahead to what's going to
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Speaker 1: happen to him. He lacks big picture of sinking cause
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Speaker 1: and effects thinking, so he thinks he can do and
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Speaker 1: say whatever he wants and nothing bad is going to
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Speaker 1: happen to him. I would imagine he thought that nothing
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Speaker 1: would come of this confession, just like nothing would come
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Speaker 1: of killing his children or defrauding an insurance company. This
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Speaker 1: is a man that doesn't imagine that he's going to
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Speaker 1: be held accountable for any of his crimes, and not
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Speaker 1: only killing them. Cloyd Steiger joining me. You can find
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Speaker 1: at Cloyd Steiger dot com. Letting their bodies lie in
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Speaker 1: the celebration home for all that time while they decompose
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Speaker 1: the decomposing bodies A four year old Zoe, eleven year
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Speaker 1: old Tile or thirteen year old Alex and wife Megan,
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Speaker 1: and of course the dog Breezy. How do you do that?
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Speaker 1: How do you just leave him in there to rot
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Speaker 1: like that? Well, it's certainly not something you think someone
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Speaker 1: who came across this family already murdered would do. They'd
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Speaker 1: be pancake called nine one one upon disturbing the bodies.
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Speaker 1: And you gotta wonder because that had to stink to
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Speaker 1: I heaven, So you gotta wonder what was going on
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Speaker 1: in this guy's brain, which he's just so disassociated. I
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Speaker 1: don't know, but you know, it's kind of a cycle thing,
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Speaker 1: keeping his family with him, like like the movie cycle
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Speaker 1: with the mother. I don't know. I mean, it's just
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Speaker 1: it's bizarre. I mean I've seen it happen before. Usually, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I keep dead bodies in the house for a long time. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: because they don't know what to do with them, you know,
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Speaker 1: and they smell. People can smell it from the front yard.
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Speaker 1: So and I'm sure this case is pretty strong. People
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Speaker 1: were probably smelling stuff thinking that as a dead animal
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Speaker 1: in the area head But I don't know, as she
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Speaker 1: willcot Judge and Trial Law, your anchor Court TV at
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Speaker 1: Ashley Willcot dot com. Remember Jodi Arius who murdered her
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Speaker 1: lover Travis Alexander stabbed him twenty eight to twenty nine times,
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Speaker 1: or so many stabbs we were never really sure how
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Speaker 1: many times she stabbed him and shot him in the head.
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Speaker 1: She leaves his naked, decomposing body in the shower stall
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Speaker 1: and takes off across the desert literally to hook up
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Speaker 1: with another new boyfriend. Never another thought about his body
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Speaker 1: decomposing in the shower. And this is after like an
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Speaker 1: all day sex marathon. She finds out he's taking another
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Speaker 1: woman on a trip to Cancoon and goes, okay, that's that, ma'am,
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Speaker 1: it's ober and leaves him to rot. There's something about
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Speaker 1: that callous attitude towards somebody you claim to love. You're
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Speaker 1: just gonna let their naked body be found rotting in
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Speaker 1: the shower. Well, that's because it can't attribute rational thought
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Speaker 1: to somebody who's gonna stabbed to love one. Right, So
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Speaker 1: we start with that premise that you're right, you wouldn't
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Speaker 1: believe how many put together, beautiful people I see in
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Speaker 1: court come before me when I'm on the bench, that
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Speaker 1: you would think have it all together? And then you
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Speaker 1: hear they've done these horrific things, or they're convicted of
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Speaker 1: doing these horrific things. And guess what, Nancy, They're not rational,
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Speaker 1: they're criminals. They're not normal in the way they think.
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Speaker 1: You know, you're right. That is my problem. I'm trying
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Speaker 1: to apply logic to an illogical situation and that doesn't work.
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Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace. A horrible, brutal and gruesome
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Speaker 1: death for mom. Megan Son Alex just thirteen. My children
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Speaker 1: are twelve, they're going to be thirteen soon, and they're
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Speaker 1: just so full of love and life. I look forward
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Speaker 1: to every minute with them. Tyler eleven, little Zoe just
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Speaker 1: for even the family dog murdered and now to rub
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Speaker 1: salt in the wound, insult to injury. After confessing to
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Speaker 1: murdering his own family and leaving them to decompose, he
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Speaker 1: is now blaming his wife for mass murder. She can't
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Speaker 1: talk back. Take a listen to our friend at wishes
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Speaker 1: sh two News. It's Megan Mlada. Listen. In that letter,
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Speaker 1: Anthony Tote writes that his wife poisoned at the kids
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Speaker 1: with a dessert, murdered them while they were asleep, and
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Speaker 1: then took her own life. On page of sixteen of
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Speaker 1: the letter day to June nineteenth, Tote writes long story short.
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Speaker 1: She gave them Benadril Thailand all pm pie, separated them,
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Speaker 1: stabbed and then suffocated each one, claiming that it was
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Speaker 1: his wife, Megan Toad, who killed their three children, Alec,
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Speaker 1: Tyler and Zoe. Also in the letter, Toad goes into
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Speaker 1: detail about how Megan drank a full bottle of family
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Speaker 1: sized Benadrill then stabbed herself in the abdomen. He says
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Speaker 1: that's how she died and that she suffered from illnesses,
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Speaker 1: including depression, which according to him, played a major role
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Speaker 1: in the deaths of his family. Continues and touches on
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Speaker 1: why he hasn't come forward with this information. He says
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Speaker 1: he would have called a press conference months ago, but
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Speaker 1: was told by his attorneys that wasn't the appropriate way
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Speaker 1: to handle the case now. According to authorities, Tote has
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Speaker 1: confessed to the murders in the past, and back in February,
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Speaker 1: a grand jury indicted him on four counts of murder
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Speaker 1: and one count of animal cruelty for also allegedly killing
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Speaker 1: the family dog. Log story short, Are you kidding me?
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Speaker 1: This is a single space eighteen page document. There's nothing
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Speaker 1: short about this document, and he goes on and on
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Speaker 1: and on about how none of this is his fault.
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Speaker 1: On one page, he even lashes out at the sheriff's
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Speaker 1: when they took me into custody. They dropped me down
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Speaker 1: ten stairs, handcuff behind my back. Boo, who don't care?
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Speaker 1: Don't care that you fell down ten stairs? What you
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Speaker 1: fell down? And you saw all the dead bodies you
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Speaker 1: left there in the living room. That is why we
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Speaker 1: hold on to someone in customy custody. Deputy, I had
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Speaker 1: back pain, shoulder pain, bilateral hand, wrist pain, and nerve damage.
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Speaker 1: Really in your left in your hand, then how could
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Speaker 1: you're right at trinny page letter whining? Do you know
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Speaker 1: where he's getting all this from? His physical therapy stores?
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Speaker 1: He had his clinics that he wrote to hell and
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Speaker 1: back and tried to milk the system and got caught.
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Speaker 1: Talk about wrist pain. He's gonna have a lot more
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Speaker 1: than wrist pain with a quadruple homicide coming his way.
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Speaker 1: But what really shocks me is now claiming his wife
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Speaker 1: that he murdered. Did the deed? Take a listening now
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Speaker 1: to Jeff Weiner Orlando Sentinel. At the time that these
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Speaker 1: killings took place, he was being about to be charged
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Speaker 1: with insurance fraud, basically double billing insurers and Medica for
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Speaker 1: services he wasn't providing. He was in deep financial distress
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Speaker 1: at facing several leans and other, um, you know, other
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Speaker 1: financial burdens. So that's kind of the state's theory of
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Speaker 1: what happened here. The reason that apparently Anthony Todd felt
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Speaker 1: compelled to write this letter that was the basis of
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Speaker 1: this story, is that he read a story by the
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Speaker 1: Hartford Current, which is a sister paper of ours, where
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Speaker 1: they interviewed Robert Todd and discussed, you know, these theories
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Speaker 1: that the family has about what went wrong here. And
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Speaker 1: this is Anthony Todd's attempt to correct the record. He
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Speaker 1: says that the insurance fraud case against him A was
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Speaker 1: you know, BS and B was not you know, all
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Speaker 1: that serious, that he was going to get off, you know,
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Speaker 1: without much penalty, and that he wasn't very worried about it.
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Speaker 1: And basically he presents himself as this doting father, you know,
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Speaker 1: and husband to a wife who was very sickly and
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Speaker 1: suffering for a long time. You know, he does blame
22:51
Speaker 1: her for having, you know, according to him, killed their children.
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Speaker 1: Does it never end with this man? Does it never end?
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Speaker 1: He murders his whole family, then wife dead. He blames her.
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Speaker 1: At one point, he even says she stabbed herself in
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Speaker 1: the liver. I mean, I'm just a JD. I need
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Speaker 1: a death investigator, Okay, Joe Scott. I know you're the
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Speaker 1: superstar of poisonous liaisons. Now that actually makes me want
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Speaker 1: to watch it. A lot of people would say, oh gross,
23:23
Speaker 1: but not me. Author of Blood Beneath My Feet also
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Speaker 1: makes me want to read it, Joe Scott. He says
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Speaker 1: she stabbed herself in the liver? What is he talking about?
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Speaker 1: Is that even possible? First of all, where exactly is
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Speaker 1: your liver? Hey? If folks will just take their right
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Speaker 1: index finger and find the base of the rib cage
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Speaker 1: on the right side and just go slightly below that,
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Speaker 1: you're right at your liver right there. It's actually where
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Speaker 1: we do core body temperatures on dead bodies at the scene.
23:56
Speaker 1: You know, you're just always feel full of so much
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Speaker 1: valuable information. I try, Nancy, I try. You know, I
24:03
Speaker 1: got to tell you something here, though. Give me a break,
24:06
Speaker 1: because they're trying to paint this guy as if he
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Speaker 1: didn't have an awareness of what he was doing. And
24:11
Speaker 1: this terrifies me in this case because it always seems
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Speaker 1: the more brutal the case is, the more people are
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Speaker 1: going to try to paint somebody as an uncontrolled psychoed Nancy.
24:24
Speaker 1: This guy planned this. There were boxes of empty benadryl
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Speaker 1: found in the trash can. You had tyl and ALLPM
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Speaker 1: that's just loaded with dife and hydromede as well. You've
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Speaker 1: got a bloody knife. He went to the trouble of
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Speaker 1: containing containing all of these people, his family, these precious children,
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Speaker 1: in a single area, and then after all of a
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Speaker 1: sudden done, he takes the time to wrap each one
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Speaker 1: of them in a blanket. This guy knew what he
24:52
Speaker 1: was doing, Nancy, and he brutalized these people. Yes, I've
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Speaker 1: had people that have actually taken their own lives by
24:58
Speaker 1: stabbing themselves in the abdomen with a knife, but Danny
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Speaker 1: would happen here. He brutalized his wife after he killed
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Speaker 1: his kids, to add as I said, insult to heinous injury,
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Speaker 1: murdering his wife and children, then after she's dead, blaming
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Speaker 1: the wife claiming that it was not the appropriate way
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Speaker 1: to tell the truth. So he gave a long, lengthy
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Speaker 1: confession that I might add coincides with all the physical evidence.
25:32
Speaker 1: But listen to this. Is everybody sitting down, Bethany, especially,
25:36
Speaker 1: you need to lay down. Quote. I would have called
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Speaker 1: a press conference months ago, but I was told by
25:42
Speaker 1: my lawyers, who happened to be some of the best
25:45
Speaker 1: in the state. Okay, that I just sit in Idol
25:48
Speaker 1: making a list of lawsuits for when I get out
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Speaker 1: crime stories with Nancy Grace. Guys are talking about this guy,
26:08
Speaker 1: Anthony Tote, age forty four, who murders his wife and
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Speaker 1: children and family dog, according to a grand jury, brutally, brutally.
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Speaker 1: The crime scene was horrible, one of the worst many
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Speaker 1: of these cops have ever seen. But it kind of
26:23
Speaker 1: reminds me of O. J. Simpson. Isn't he the one
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Speaker 1: jacket that said I'm two two hundred percent not guilty
26:29
Speaker 1: or one hundred What did he say? Anyway, he says
26:33
Speaker 1: he's quote ten thousand percent not guilty, not one hundred percent,
26:40
Speaker 1: but ten thousand percent not guilty. Now this is yourminding
26:45
Speaker 1: me this letter. I'm so happy he took the time
26:50
Speaker 1: to write a twenty page document because that's going to
26:52
Speaker 1: be state's exhibit number one. But he, by far is
26:57
Speaker 1: not the first person to wipe out the whole family
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Speaker 1: and then blame the wife the murder victim. Take a
27:06
Speaker 1: listen to our friend at CBS News, Mr Villa Franca.
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Speaker 1: I have two beautiful girls, and I'm truly blessed with
27:14
Speaker 1: every day. After initially denying involvement in his family's disappearance,
27:19
Speaker 1: Christopher Watts allegedly told investigators his pregnant wife Nan killed
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Speaker 1: their two daughters, four year old Bella and three year
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Speaker 1: old Celeste. According to a newly unsealed arrest AFFI, David
27:33
Speaker 1: Watts claims that moments after he told her he wanted
27:36
Speaker 1: a separation, he observed her on a baby monitor actively
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Speaker 1: strangling their younger daughter while their older daughter was sprawled
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Speaker 1: out on her bed and blew. He claims he then
27:47
Speaker 1: went into a rage and ultimately strangled Shennan to death.
27:51
Speaker 1: It's so wrong, it is so not true. That is
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Speaker 1: the last thing she would have done. If somebody has her,
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Speaker 1: please bring her back. I need to see everybody. I
28:04
Speaker 1: need to see. Just days after Watts went on TV
28:07
Speaker 1: pleading for his family's safe return, he allegedly told investigators
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Speaker 1: where to find their bodies on a property owned by
28:14
Speaker 1: the company he worked for, Joseph Scott Morgan. He said
28:17
Speaker 1: he needed to see everybody. Well, he knew how to
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Speaker 1: find them. How did he murder and dispose of the
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Speaker 1: children's and his wife, NaN's body. Oh, he took him.
28:27
Speaker 1: He took these precious little Well, what we believe happened.
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Speaker 1: He kills Nan in bed, laying next to her. And
28:34
Speaker 1: let's don't forget Nancy. She was so far along in
28:38
Speaker 1: her pregnancy, she'd been out of town working. She just
28:40
Speaker 1: collapsed in bed. It didn't really take a lot of pressure,
28:43
Speaker 1: didn't He thanks her first? Yeah? Well, some people say
28:46
Speaker 1: that I don't know that for a fact, But what
28:48
Speaker 1: I do, Yeah, I believed the sperm and the autopsy
28:53
Speaker 1: report or you let's see, I'll go with the medical examiner.
28:56
Speaker 1: Go ahead. Yeah. Well, he took her body, wrapped it up,
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Speaker 1: placed it in the truck, and then allegedly took these
29:04
Speaker 1: two little them at the scene, stuffed their bodies down
29:08
Speaker 1: into these oil containment systems that they add out there
29:11
Speaker 1: where the chemicals literally begin to render their bodies down,
29:15
Speaker 1: and then took his own wife's body and buried it
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Speaker 1: in a shallow grave. And that dirt, that hard dirt
29:21
Speaker 1: out there where she actually gave birth, coughin birth, if
29:25
Speaker 1: you will, to this precious little child, Nico. He brutalized them.
29:29
Speaker 1: And it's not much different than what we're talking about
29:31
Speaker 1: today with Todd, you know, just hearing you say it
29:36
Speaker 1: like that, Joe Scott just so upsetting. And when they
29:40
Speaker 1: try to pull the little girls out of the containers,
29:45
Speaker 1: the containers are about that big at the top. The
29:48
Speaker 1: little girl's shoulders were that big, so he had to
29:51
Speaker 1: push them down into the cruise oil container and they
29:55
Speaker 1: became de sleeved as what was and I went, way
30:00
Speaker 1: is d sleep? Yeah, what is that? Yeah? It's actually um,
30:05
Speaker 1: there's actually a chemical that's contained. This is this is
30:08
Speaker 1: raw petroleum, Nancy. This is not like you go down
30:10
Speaker 1: the store and you use just buy oil for your car,
30:13
Speaker 1: all right. We take things out of this oil. Uh,
30:16
Speaker 1: this raw oil like tallyween, which is stuff we used
30:19
Speaker 1: to strip metal with, Nancy, and that's what these little
30:22
Speaker 1: girls were exposed to. So that yeah, so, and it's
30:28
Speaker 1: just they're absolutely their skin and their top level of skin, uh,
30:32
Speaker 1: the epidermist and down to the dermist, which is a
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Speaker 1: sub layer, begins to peel back, begins to peel back.
30:38
Speaker 1: That's what's de sleeving in this and you know back,
30:42
Speaker 1: you know in the top, Yeah, in the top of
30:44
Speaker 1: these things, these little holes where he put the bodies in.
30:47
Speaker 1: These are called thief hatches. I think that's an appropriate
30:51
Speaker 1: name because he stole their lives. He took Bella, the
30:53
Speaker 1: oldest little girl, and there's evidence that he actually crammed
30:57
Speaker 1: and jammed her down through this hole, because she's got
31:00
Speaker 1: scratches up her back. There were actually there were actually
31:03
Speaker 1: there was actually evidence of hair and skin from her
31:05
Speaker 1: body found in the hinges of this thing. That's how
31:08
Speaker 1: brutal this was. And then blames his pregnant murdered wife Nan.
31:14
Speaker 1: Now remember he's blaming her for the murders, even though
31:20
Speaker 1: he says this, take a listen to Chris wattson his
31:24
Speaker 1: own words that kind of can you were I don't know,
31:39
Speaker 1: I no idea. Shun just squined just that personally, that's true.
32:08
Speaker 1: I think it is those long pauses as he's trying
32:11
Speaker 1: to come up with a scenario where Shannan, his dead wife,
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Speaker 1: did the murders. That's when you're trying to think through
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Speaker 1: your lie. And to you, Ashley Wilcott, judge trial while
32:24
Speaker 1: your court TV anchor, have you ever seen Defennitt's trying
32:27
Speaker 1: to come up with a line. They're like, and then oh,
32:32
Speaker 1: then I saw my daughter on the baby monitor. I mean,
32:35
Speaker 1: he has to think through the story. You can't just
32:38
Speaker 1: tell it because he's making it up as he goes. Absolutely,
32:41
Speaker 1: you can often tell when people are lying. But let
32:43
Speaker 1: me suggest this, even when Chris Watts was first interviewed
32:47
Speaker 1: and saying, oh, this is what's happened and this is terrible,
32:51
Speaker 1: let me just tell you this. I think once you
32:53
Speaker 1: start doing this long enough, like you have, like I have,
32:56
Speaker 1: like everybody else on the panel has, you start to
32:58
Speaker 1: get a sixth sense. And I have to tell you
33:00
Speaker 1: when I watched him, I didn't believe him for a
33:02
Speaker 1: minute because of what you just identified. The story starts
33:06
Speaker 1: to change. They get caught up on their words, they're
33:08
Speaker 1: thinking about what to say next, and then they go backwards,
33:10
Speaker 1: and then this and then that. Even if they're subtle nuances,
33:14
Speaker 1: you can tell, in my opinion, that they're not telling
33:17
Speaker 1: the truth. Then he goes on to give a full
33:20
Speaker 1: confession by the way on audio video. So all this
33:25
Speaker 1: is a lie to all of you people out there,
33:27
Speaker 1: all you lonely hearts women that think you want to
33:29
Speaker 1: marry Chris Watts. You need to look at his confession
33:33
Speaker 1: and listen to it. By the way, he's been sentenced.
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Speaker 1: So this is all a big lie that Nan Watts
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Speaker 1: murdered her children and then he murdered her. No, that's
33:44
Speaker 1: a lie. Now there's someone else that precoursed all of these.
33:49
Speaker 1: His name was Neil aunt Whistle, and I remember it
33:52
Speaker 1: like it was yesterday. Take a listen to Mike Garcia
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Speaker 1: with ap Twenty seven year old Rachel Andsle and nine
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Speaker 1: month old Lilian were found shot to death in their
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Speaker 1: Massachusetts home. We may never know why this happened, but
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Speaker 1: we do know that Rachel and Lillian Rose loved and
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Speaker 1: trusted Neil Entwistle. Prosecutors told the jury that Entwistle stole
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Speaker 1: his father in law's twenty two caliber handgun and used
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Speaker 1: it to shoot his wife and daughter. He later drove
34:21
Speaker 1: more than fifty miles to return the gun. The following day,
34:24
Speaker 1: he flew to his native England without calling police. The
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Speaker 1: defense told the jury that his wife killed their daughter
34:29
Speaker 1: and then committed suicide. His attorney said Entwhistle found his
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Speaker 1: wife and daughter dead of gunshot wounds and returned the
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Speaker 1: gun to his father in law's house to protect his
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Speaker 1: wife from the shame of suicide. But I condemned Neil
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Speaker 1: Entwistle for compounding the unspeakable nature of what he has
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Speaker 1: done by disparaging the memory of his wife and vilifying
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Speaker 1: the entire Matarazzo family by his decisions. Prosecutors say Entwhistle
34:57
Speaker 1: was unemployed and deep in debt, say he was unsatisfied
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Speaker 1: with his sex life and was looking for sex partners online.
35:04
Speaker 1: The prosecution argues those factors led Entwhistle to kill his
35:08
Speaker 1: wife and a child. It never ends, and now you've
35:11
Speaker 1: got this guy Anthony to forty four, old enough to
35:14
Speaker 1: know better, writing his manifesto and by the way, at
35:18
Speaker 1: the end talk about living in a dream world. The
35:21
Speaker 1: boys performed in Nashville in July. I uploaded their performance
35:25
Speaker 1: and a recital. If you want to see them, they're amazing,
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Speaker 1: They're dead, you kill them, rot in hell. That's my
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Speaker 1: message to utt. This is a crime online dot com.
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Speaker 1: It's great reading, but don't believe it. We wait as
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Speaker 1: justice unfolds Nancy Gray' crime story, signing off goodbye friend,