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Carpe Morte · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 1: I will say it's a shame that Apollonia is not
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  Speaker 1: more widely recognized.
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  Speaker 2: She got crazy religious.
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  Speaker 1: She's a true talent.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if you know that.
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  Speaker 1: No, I don't.
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  Speaker 2: So she went crazy religious. Did she now?
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  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 2: She seems nice enough. I still see interviews with her semi-recently.
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  Speaker 2: You know, not that many people.
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  Speaker 1: So she's like Willie Ames religious? Like that kind of?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, but she certainly found God. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: sure if she's like preaching it as much as Willie Ames.
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  Speaker 2: She's not like Bible lady, but you know.
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  Speaker 1: They could be a hell of a superhero duo.
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  Speaker 4: I'd watch that.
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  Speaker 1: I would definitely watch that. Billy Ames as Bible man
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  Speaker 1: and Apollonia as Exodus.
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  Speaker 5: Apollonia.
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  Speaker 2: God doth named her Apollonia.
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  Speaker 1: I'm putting together the proposal. Please do. Get financing for that.
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  Speaker 1: It's right up here.
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  Speaker 2: You know what?
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  Speaker 1: The shame is I would probably get it like that.
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  Speaker 2: That would come through.
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  Speaker 5: You'd be like, but I've got all these other projects.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no. I want Bible Man and Apollonia.
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  Speaker 2: Hi, I'm Richard Keel, Jaws from the James Bond movies,
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  Speaker 2: and you're listening to Movie Meltdown. Movie Meltdown It's showtime.
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  Speaker 1: Our nuclear reactor pumping out one million kilowatts of power.
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  Speaker 2: Hollywood.
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  Speaker 4: Hollywood Montrose.
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  Speaker 2: Woo!
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  Speaker 4: Doesn't it just sing?
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  Speaker 7: What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown. I'm Brian.
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  Speaker 5: I'm Lucy.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Beau. I'm Mike.
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  Speaker 2: And we're coming to you live via digital recording from
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  Speaker 2: the offices of 180 Degrees.
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  Speaker 2: It was still in transition mode last.
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  Speaker 7: Time we were here.
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  Speaker 2: Do you want to give people an update on it?
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  Speaker 1: Well, it still looks like a dorm room.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I assume that's what you're going for.
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  Speaker 1: Not really, no. Thankfully, we've been so busy, we haven't
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  Speaker 1: been able to decorate. So that's a good thing. No,
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  Speaker 1: we're just doing some exciting stuff. We're making movies and
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  Speaker 1: have scripts in our possession. And we're raising more funds
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  Speaker 1: and researching a couple of documentaries. And we just produced...
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  Speaker 1: video for the newly formed Louisville Film Commission.
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  Speaker 2: Which we just watched moments ago. Just premiered.
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  Speaker 1: How'd you like it?
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  Speaker 5: It was amazing.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you. So yeah, we had a lot
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  Speaker 1: of fun making that. A lot of people came on
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  Speaker 1: board and they're going to show it at their party
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  Speaker 1: at Sundance tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: Very cool.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: We're very excited.
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  Speaker 1: We had about seven days to put it together. And
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  Speaker 1: it came together beautifully.
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  Speaker 2: As soon as they see it.
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  Speaker 1: It is indicative of how well the film community works
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  Speaker 1: together here in Louisville.
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  Speaker 2: And can get stuff together quickly. As soon as they
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  Speaker 2: see it, millions of dollars will come rolling. That's right.
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  Speaker 2: We'll take it. As long as it just cuts in
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  Speaker 2: on the action.
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  Speaker 1: And we will produce, with that millions of dollars, Bible
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  Speaker 1: Man and Apollonia.
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  Speaker 2: That pitch, you've got to get on that pitch.
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  Speaker 1: I hear a lot of reverb in that trailer. It's Bible,
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  Speaker 1: Bible Man. Again, I watched the thing.
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  Speaker 2: Alright, so this week we have a lot of ground
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  Speaker 2: to cover. I figure we better get right into it
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  Speaker 2: because as we.
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  Speaker 5: Was that a graveyard reference?
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  Speaker 2: Hmm. I mean, that's the thing. I was surprised because
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  Speaker 2: the last... We've done this, like, ongoing the last two years.
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  Speaker 2: We did, like, a whole, like, memorial episode about everybody
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  Speaker 2: that died the year before and everybody really seemed to
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  Speaker 2: kind of like it. But when we used to do it, like, weekly,
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  Speaker 2: we did the Hollywood Boneyard and nobody cared. Like, Either
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  Speaker 2: nobody cared or eventually people went, yeah, it's just depressing, man.
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, all right, I guess we'll retire
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  Speaker 2: that weekly segment. But everybody seems to like the lump
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  Speaker 2: it into one thing and talk about people. So we can,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Hollywood Boneyard's back.
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  Speaker 7: As long as they don't get buried in too much information.
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  Speaker 8: How many puns did we come up with?
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  Speaker 6: Is that a ghost?
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  Speaker 2: A ghost in the Boneyard?
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  Speaker 7: No, that wasn't actually intended, but yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It's a pretty dead room.
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  Speaker 7: I'm going to stop coughing up puns and leave this
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  Speaker 7: to Brian.
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  Speaker 2: See if we can dig ourselves out of.
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  Speaker 6: It.
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  Speaker 7: He was a friend of mine. I thought you were
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  Speaker 7: going to be like, all right, that's it. Trying again. Restart.
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  Speaker 1: That's it.
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  Speaker 2: This episode's over.
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  Speaker 1: Much like many of the people we're going to talk about,
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  Speaker 1: this episode is dead.
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  Speaker 2: Do we want to go, like, huge, huge names? Because, again,
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  Speaker 2: if you bring it up, it's funny that IMDB has
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  Speaker 2: a list of them, and it does it by the
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  Speaker 2: star meter, which we all know is the most important
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  Speaker 2: thing in the world, is the IMDB star meter.
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  Speaker 7: I'm assuming star meter, is that just generated by numbers
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  Speaker 7: of searches for the individual?
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know if it was searches, like, internet-based plus, like,
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  Speaker 2: box office stuff, because it is IMDB, so I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: maybe they're, like, general money making, what makes you the
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  Speaker 2: biggest star.
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  Speaker 7: Or just numbers of times that people click on titles
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  Speaker 7: that have your name in it.
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  Speaker 2: Possibly.
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  Speaker 7: Maybe it's like a lot of different factors.
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  Speaker 2: If anybody out there works at the website, let us know.
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  Speaker 7: Who's number one on the star meter then in the
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  Speaker 7: way of.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's not really a surprise.
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  Speaker 7: Robin Williams.
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  Speaker 2: So, I don't know. I feel like some of the
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  Speaker 2: bigger ones, I don't know what else there is to say.
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  Speaker 2: That was kind of like mine. I was trying to
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  Speaker 2: go through and find people that probably would get missed
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  Speaker 2: in the That's kind of why we started this was
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  Speaker 2: the Oscars show does their memorial and they skip a
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  Speaker 2: whole lot of people. So that's sort of what inspired
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  Speaker 2: it two years back when we started doing the other ones.
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  Speaker 2: So we can, I don't know, at least acknowledge them.
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  Speaker 1: I am 884,349 on the IMDb star meter. Well done.
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  Speaker 1: And here's the really depressing part. I am down 499,612
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  Speaker 1: just this week. How about that?
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  Speaker 2: I guess that producing things in seven days wasn't enough.
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  Speaker 2: I think what it is is you need to get
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  Speaker 2: on the list.
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  Speaker 7: Or it's important that you've looked at this now and
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  Speaker 7: after the video premieres tomorrow, give it a week.
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  Speaker 5: See what bumps you get.
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  Speaker 1: Give it a week.
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  Speaker 2: See how you shoot up.
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  Speaker 1: That's right, from my little four-second clip in there.
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  Speaker 2: I had my half-second clip. It's pretty exciting.
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  Speaker 4: I know.
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  Speaker 1: You did. You made it in.
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  Speaker 2: Wandering the streets of this town.
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  Speaker 7: You'll be bigger than Robin Williams yet.
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  Speaker 2: All right. So, I don't know. Do we want to
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  Speaker 2: start with those or do we all want to pick?
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  Speaker 7: Who are the top ten? Let's just go. I'm just curious.
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  Speaker 7: Who are the top ten?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, again, the top two are no surprise.
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  Speaker 7: The top ten deceased. I'm assuming number two is Philip
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  Speaker 7: Seymour Hoffman.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: So, I mean, really, those two are no surprise.
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  Speaker 1: Joan Rivers.
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  Speaker 6: Not so far.
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  Speaker 5: Not three?
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  Speaker 1: Whoa.
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  Speaker 2: This one, again, this is always fun with actors' names.
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  Speaker 2: Louise Rayner?
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  Speaker 7: Louise Rainier.
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  Speaker 1: There you go.
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  Speaker 2: Crazy foreign people. So that's actually three.
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  Speaker 6: Surprisingly.
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  Speaker 2: That's very interesting.
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  Speaker 7: I'm trying to remember. One of her nominations was for
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  Speaker 7: The Good Earth. What was her second nomination for? She
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  Speaker 7: had two back to back.
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  Speaker 1: The Louisville Film Commission video.
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  Speaker 6: Nice track.
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  Speaker 1: Pleased to meet me.
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  Speaker 7: Now it's going to drive me crazy. You could click
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  Speaker 7: on it, but I would rather just like irritate myself
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  Speaker 7: trying to remember.
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  Speaker 2: You have fun with that. Surprisingly, number four, Edward Herman.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not sure I know who that is.
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  Speaker 2: Do you not watch Gilmore Girls?
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  Speaker 1: That's the dumb brother of Pee Wee.
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  Speaker 7: You've seen Lost Boys.
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  Speaker 5: I have seen Lost Boys.
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  Speaker 7: He plays the record store owner that turns out to
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  Speaker 7: be the head vampire. If you saw... Peter Brogdonovich.
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  Speaker 1: Really?
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  Speaker 2: He's dead?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: One of Peter Brogdonovich's last films, The Cat's Meow, he
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  Speaker 7: played William Randolph Hearst in it.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 7: You'd recognize probably his voice almost as much as you would. Oh,
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  Speaker 7: you would recognize him in a second.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: He did some commercial work for, I can't remember what
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  Speaker 7: vehicle it was.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was a Ford.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Have you not seen Overboom?
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  Speaker 2: I have, but not since it was- I think he's
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  Speaker 2: the husband that she disappears and he doesn't go looking
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  Speaker 2: for her.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: I think Lucy's more taken aback that Brian is like,
• 9:52
  Speaker 7: how have you not seen Gilmore Girls? And she's like,
• 9:54
  Speaker 7: why have you seen Gilmore Girls?
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  Speaker 2: Every season. Every season. Until the final episode. Anyway. Those
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  Speaker 2: little eyes are hot. What do you want?
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  Speaker 7: Of course, it might be that with Edward Herman, it
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  Speaker 7: was just recent.
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  Speaker 2: What's really weird is I saw him. last year like
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  Speaker 2: he was at one of the shows signing you know
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  Speaker 2: probably mostly lost boys because you know all the geeks
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  Speaker 2: are always horror fans so he was there and i
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  Speaker 2: mean he was he coughing a lot no but he
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  Speaker 2: i mean it was funny because i hadn't seen him
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  Speaker 2: in several years it's even been you know 10 years
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  Speaker 2: since he's been on tv so it's been a few
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  Speaker 2: years and like he definitely like it kicked in those
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  Speaker 2: last few years it was like he was looking kind
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  Speaker 2: of rough so i was like I felt bad already.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, man, I haven't seen him. And now he's...
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  Speaker 2: It was probably five months or so later. Like, it
• 10:47
  Speaker 2: was not long after that that I saw the.
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  Speaker 7: I think, too, after Fred Gwynn passed away, didn't he
• 10:52
  Speaker 7: take over doing, like, all the different Munster spinoffs?
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  Speaker 2: That's a bad idea, by the way.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Just Hollywood in general.
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  Speaker 7: As Herman Munster, I think he did. Just because he
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  Speaker 7: and Fred Gwynn had similar voices.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: And, you know, he was both big men, too. Yeah,
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  Speaker 7: very big men.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, brain cancer. Brain cancer.
• 11:14
  Speaker 2: You said that almost excited. Oh, brain cancer. Wow.
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  Speaker 5: I'm pulling up his picture now.
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  Speaker 7: Now you recognize him.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, and apparently it was Dodge.
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  Speaker 2: So what's weird is, yeah, that may have already been
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  Speaker 2: taking its toll. I mean, only a few months earlier,
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure he was already going through probably.
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  Speaker 7: A lot of treatment. So those are the top five
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  Speaker 7: for last year?
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  Speaker 2: He was four, Lauren Bacall is five. So again, that's
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  Speaker 2: no surprise.
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: Sid Caesar, is he on there?
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  Speaker 2: Not in the ten, no.
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  Speaker 7: Bob Hoskins or Richard Attenborough?
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  Speaker 1: No. No.
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  Speaker 5: I am confounded by this list.
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  Speaker 1: Bob Hoskins, I actually talked to his agent a while
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  Speaker 1: back about a role for a film we were putting together.
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  Speaker 7: What was the role going to be?
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  Speaker 1: Before he died. You weren't going to see GM in?
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  Speaker 1: This was about three and a half years ago. His
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  Speaker 1: agent says, Mr. Hoskins... has stopped acting.
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  Speaker 6: Oh.
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  Speaker 7: What was the role?
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  Speaker 1: It was in a, it was the role of a detective.
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  Speaker 9: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 1: In a, it's a genre, genre action flick that we
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  Speaker 1: were working to put together. No, never came to fruition.
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  Speaker 7: Oh.
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  Speaker 5: Who did you go to after Bob Hoskins?
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  Speaker 1: We were producers for hire on that one.
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  Speaker 2: Ah. So. Yeah, what is the next rung down after?
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  Speaker 1: The plug was quickly pulled on that.
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  Speaker 2: Trying to think what the next move is for that.
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  Speaker 2: Who do you go to after Bob Hoskins?
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  Speaker 1: After Bob Hoskins, Michael Madsen.
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  Speaker 3: Who said yes?
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  Speaker 7: That's an odd transition.
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  Speaker 1: And the movie did not get greenlit. I'm like, Free Willy?
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  Speaker 5: I didn't even know he said Free Willy.
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  Speaker 2: That's your go-to is Free Willy.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, Free Willy.
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  Speaker 1: Reservoir Dogs, of course. Michael Madsen. No. No. Michael, it's
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  Speaker 1: Michael Madsen.
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  Speaker 7: Well, I mean, if you're going to go with Michaels
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  Speaker 7: from Free Willy, why not go Michael Ironside? Because I
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  Speaker 7: don't think he does as much now as Michael Madsen does.
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  Speaker 1: And I think I would rather work with Michael Ironside.
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  Speaker 7: I think you would actually, I would like to see
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  Speaker 7: him more in a detective film anyway.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he has that. Well, he's like, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: could see him doing Chinatown.
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  Speaker 7: He's actually one, he was so big in the 90s,
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  Speaker 7: and I think the last thing I saw him in was.
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  Speaker 1: Something with iron in it.
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  Speaker 7: The Machinist.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Something with iron in the title.
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  Speaker 3: That's close.
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  Speaker 1: An eagle. Another eagle was in the title, maybe.
• 13:33
  Speaker 2: It's in his contract.
• 13:35
  Speaker 4: I have to have.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, he was the red herring in The Machinist, and
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  Speaker 7: I was like, of course he's the red herring. It
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  Speaker 7: wasn't like every film up until then.
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  Speaker 2: He was born to be the red herring. That's right.
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  Speaker 1: It's like episodes of Law & Order. You always know.
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  Speaker 1: There's a star. They did it.
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  Speaker 5: All right.
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: Do we have anyone we want to go with next?
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: Shirley Temple. Black. Or white.
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  Speaker 2: Which Shirley Temple?
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  Speaker 6: You racist.
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: I support the black one. That white one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so Shirley Temple. Alright.
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  Speaker 2: What do we have to do?
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  Speaker 7: Just on Shirley Temple, I was still surprised. I was like,
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  Speaker 7: son of a bitch, she was still alive.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I thought.
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  Speaker 1: Didn't she die in the 80s?
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  Speaker 7: There was no disrespect meant on that. There were a
• 14:23
  Speaker 7: couple of different... Actors and actresses, I was that way. Like,
• 14:26
  Speaker 7: when I saw Renee Asherson passed away, I was like,
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  Speaker 7: my God. When I saw her in The Others, I
• 14:32
  Speaker 7: was like, I didn't realize she was still around when
• 14:34
  Speaker 7: I saw her there. And she was really old in
• 14:36
  Speaker 7: that film. And that was still several years ago.
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: Sometimes I go the other way. Earlier today, I was
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: trying to decide if Sondra Locke was still alive. Because
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: I kind of thought she died. Turns out she's okay.
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: Is she all right?
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I suppose. It didn't have a died date, so I'm.
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  Speaker 1: Assuming that she still lives. She's still living off the
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: residuals from Any Which Way But Loose.
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  Speaker 2: Probably so.
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  Speaker 7: No, but Bob Hoskins, out of all the ones this
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  Speaker 7: past year, he was definitely the one I was just
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  Speaker 7: saddest to see go. You know, I mean, he was
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  Speaker 7: always pretty versatile. I like a lot of his early
• 15:09
  Speaker 7: stuff that he did when they were doing sort of
• 15:11
  Speaker 7: neo-noir stuff in the 70s in England. If anyone's seen
• 15:14
  Speaker 7: Long Good Friday or not, he's terrifying in that role as...
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  Speaker 7: a crime Lord. There's an entire scene to where he's
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  Speaker 7: just interrogated. He's trying to figure out, you know, it's
• 15:25
  Speaker 7: almost like a British godfather to a certain extent, but, um,
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  Speaker 7: there's this great scene where he's got all of his,
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  Speaker 7: you know, regular enemies just strung up on meat hooks
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  Speaker 7: in this like cold meat locker. And he's just like
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  Speaker 7: interrogating the hell out of them. Just trying to figure
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  Speaker 7: out who exactly it is. It's just screwing him over.
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  Speaker 7: And it's very frightening, but very fun.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I.
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  Speaker 7: Always liked, uh, yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: I don't know if anyone saw Adam McGowan's Felicia's Journey.
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  Speaker 2: That's so weird. Just watching him in that, how dark
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: that is.
• 16:00
  Speaker 7: It's a wild transition for him, and that was one
• 16:03
  Speaker 7: where I really felt like he should have been nominated
• 16:05
  Speaker 7: for something. I can't remember who all the main nominees
• 16:10
  Speaker 7: were that year, but I felt like that was a
• 16:12
  Speaker 7: film that was really, really overlooked in the way of
• 16:14
  Speaker 7: his performance, just because it's very eerie. I think the
• 16:20
  Speaker 7: last film that he got any kind of nomination for
• 16:22
  Speaker 7: was Best Supporting in Mrs. Henderson Presents, I think. I
• 16:26
  Speaker 7: won't swear to it. I'm just operating under the assumption
• 16:29
  Speaker 7: that he got nominated for Best Supporting because Bob Hoskins naked.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: That's what you're looking for.
• 16:36
  Speaker 7: That seems to be like the one that, you know,
• 16:37
  Speaker 7: cinches it like Kathy Bates getting it for, you know,
• 16:39
  Speaker 7: about Schmidt. It's like, all right, she took her clothes off.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: We've got to give her something.
• 16:44
  Speaker 7: We've got to acknowledge it somehow.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: We don't necessarily want to see naked. If they're willing
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: to do it, all right, we'll give you a nomination. Well,
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, you've got to note the range. Put your
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: clothes on. But, yeah, I mean, you've got to give
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: them credit for just range. Like, to be able to
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: pull that kind of heavy stuff and then... Super Mario Brothers.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: Which is kind of my go-to role.
• 17:09
  Speaker 7: Which was actually, I was watching that Friday night, and
• 17:11
  Speaker 7: it was so funny because I was watching it with
• 17:14
  Speaker 7: some friends. A couple people came over, and they're like,
• 17:17
  Speaker 7: we've never seen this.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: How bad is it?
• 17:19
  Speaker 7: And I said, oh, you have no idea. You have
• 17:22
  Speaker 7: no idea how horrible it is. Does it fall in
• 17:25
  Speaker 7: the so bad it's good category?
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: I love that movie. It's ridiculous, but it's like they
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: almost know it, so they're okay with what they're doing.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: I give it credit. I don't know.
• 17:36
  Speaker 7: I mean, it's... I don't think if you were watching
• 17:39
  Speaker 7: it by yourself, like now, you would find it entertaining.
• 17:44
  Speaker 7: But if you had a couple of beers and you
• 17:45
  Speaker 7: were with some friends, yes. But it has nothing to
• 17:49
  Speaker 7: do with the video game other than, like, the names.
• 17:52
  Speaker 7: And that's about it.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: They work weird little characters in, but they're, like, totally
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: weird and different and don't follow any of the story.
• 17:59
  Speaker 7: Of the game, if there was a story involved. Yeah,
• 18:02
  Speaker 7: I'd heard the story... I don't know if it's true
• 18:05
  Speaker 7: or not. I guess it's apocryphal at best. But allegedly
• 18:08
  Speaker 7: Dennis Hopper took his grandkids to see Super Mario Brothers.
• 18:13
  Speaker 7: And after the film was over at the premiere, his
• 18:17
  Speaker 7: kids who were big Super Mario Brothers fans and big
• 18:20
  Speaker 7: fans of just their grandpa in general, apparently one of
• 18:22
  Speaker 7: them allegedly turned to him and said, Why did you
• 18:25
  Speaker 7: make that movie, Grandpa? And he said, when you get older,
• 18:29
  Speaker 7: you have to do some things for money.
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 18:31
  Speaker 7: Like that was apparently just an exchange that happened between
• 18:35
  Speaker 7: the two of them.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: That's one of those roles that I call it. It's
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: a health insurance role that you got to keep your,
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: got to keep up your SAG health insurance. And so,
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: you know, you need so many hours per year to
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: keep up your SAG insurance.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Go watch it. Like again, for Dennis Hopper,
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: if nothing else, like his performance is amazing. Like it's,
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: he will do those that are just like completely chewing
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: the scenery. And like he, seems to enjoy it, you know?
• 19:00
  Speaker 7: He is kind of Frank Booth-y in his way, but
• 19:03
  Speaker 7: toned down.
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: That's amazing. I've been quiet for a minute because I
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: had this idea that popped into my head, and I
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: was about to say it, and then I was like, well, no,
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: I need to confirm this with the internet before I
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: say it out loud because I will discredit myself for
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: all future conversations because it can't be a real thing
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: that happened.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: In the world.
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: But apparently that movie was produced by Roland Joffe, which
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: maybe makes some of that make sense.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: I thought you mentioned that before.
• 19:25
  Speaker 7: You looking stuff up over there?
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: Well, no, I'm confirming something.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: All right, I'm trying to remember.
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: Because I was like, that can't be a real thing.
• 19:33
  Speaker 7: Louise Rainier, I think it is The Good Earth and
• 19:35
  Speaker 7: The Great Ziegfeld. I think those are her two.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: See, not everybody has the strange encyclopedic knowledge.
• 19:42
  Speaker 7: Well, if I was encyclopedic, then I would know for
• 19:44
  Speaker 7: 100% for certain. It's just that's why I'm like, I
• 19:48
  Speaker 7: think these are.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Google machine.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: I know I have nothing left in my head anymore.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: That's why you have smartphones and laptops. You have to
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: be able to take the stuff with you because your
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: brain goes with you, but it doesn't know anything.
• 20:01
  Speaker 7: That's why I like just having the old flip phone
• 20:04
  Speaker 7: because everyone has the fancy phones. Like, no, I don't
• 20:06
  Speaker 7: want an argument in there.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: You have a flip phone? Yeah. Can I see it?
• 20:10
  Speaker 7: It's like a slide-up, but yeah.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: Do we have the same phone?
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: We might have the same phone.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: Two people with slide-up phones? It's actually the new hip thing.
• 20:18
  Speaker 7: Or they share a phone.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: This is scary.
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: This is a big moment.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: Because that's the thing.
• 20:23
  Speaker 7: If you have that stuff, it's an argument ender.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: It's like, no, no, no, no.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: You just like to argue.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: I do.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: I want to get pissed at myself because I'm like,
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: I should remember this.
• 20:35
  Speaker 7: And people are like, I could look it up.
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: No.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: No.
• 20:38
  Speaker 7: So actually, no, don't look it up. I've changed my
• 20:40
  Speaker 7: mind completely.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Wow. Two flip phones.
• 20:42
  Speaker 7: I will just stake my claim on Great Ziegfeld and
• 20:45
  Speaker 7: The Good Earth and leave it at that.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: Thank God I'm okay.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Rick Mayhall.
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: Oh.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: I had, yeah, I had pointed into that one.
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: I forgot about that. And when I was looking at lists,
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: he wasn't on any of the lists, so I wasn't reminded.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: He was on my personal list.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: The one that I was probably saddest to hear this
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: year was Rick Mayhall.
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: That's true.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Just loved Rick Mayhall. I used to Saturday nights on
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: MTV would, you know, at 1130. 1130 would, you know.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: And it speaks highly of that show because I am
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: not one to buy into British comedy. I know some
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: people love it and I just, it's very hit and
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: miss with me and like, it took a little while. Like,
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: that's one of those I saw that first week and went,
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: what is this? Like, it just doesn't make sense. The
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: structuring of it and the ridiculousness of some of the
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: things that go on. And then once you're immersed in it,
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: it's like, This may be the best show I've ever seen.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: It is so much fun.
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: When did The Young Ones premiere on MTV?
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: 82.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: 82. Okay.
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: I remember that vividly because that's when I stopped being
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: cool because we didn't have MTV and everybody would be
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: talking about this show that I couldn't see. It was
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: a rough year for the six-year-old Lucy.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: I still use Young Ones references.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: I do too.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Did you make your bed? No, I bought it.
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: I love that one.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, he was, and most people probably know him
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: from Drop Dead Fred.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: That became his, like, mainstream.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: Entries into American culture. However, I mean, he went on
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: to do stuff like the comic strip, which did that.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: They did a, it was a Spinal Tap knockoff called
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: Bad News on Tour, if you've ever seen it. And
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: it's just brilliant, absolutely brilliant, where he plays the long-haired,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: bass player who you know he's always sticking his tongue
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: out and wiggling his tongue at people and gyrating his
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: hips and he's a complete doofus and oh it's just
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: it's some of the best comedy i've ever seen and
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: it was it came right around the time well it's
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: here spinal tap was 83 283 somewhere around there.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Somewhere Maybe, yeah.
• 22:52
  Speaker 7: It might be as late as 84, but yeah, it's
• 22:54
  Speaker 7: somewhere in that range.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: And then the comic strip, I think, released that around 87.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: But it was so good. And it was most of
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: the guys from The Young Ones.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Because that was the one that they followed up. For
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: a while, they were running it after The Young Ones
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: on MTV. Because I remember watching that every week. And again,
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: it was just a weird dynamic because it's not at
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: all like The Young Ones. The comedy even switches a
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: little bit. But that was the one they did The
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: Sound of Muzak.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: That I will never, like, say it right now. Like,
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: The Sound of Muzak. And, like, nobody knows what I'm
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: talking about. But, like, that entire, like, thing of him
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: trying to watch this movie. And, like, it's so much fun.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: So that's the standout episode for me. The Sound of Muzak.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: The Sound of Muzak.
• 23:39
  Speaker 6: I like that. Yeah.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, he was definitely one that I was most
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: sad to hear about.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Well, and then you go back.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: I forgot. I mean, I remember last time I watched it,
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: but he's in the Slaughtered Lamb in American Werewolf in London.
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Playing chess. Yep.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Very, very cool tie-ins.
• 23:57
  Speaker 7: Which actually, you mentioned that. I was just sitting here
• 23:59
  Speaker 7: lost in thought in the way of like, out of
• 24:01
  Speaker 7: all the people that died this past year, like which
• 24:03
  Speaker 7: ones had impacts on others? And, you know, Rick Baker
• 24:07
  Speaker 7: won the Oscar for American World from London, but I
• 24:10
  Speaker 7: think if it weren't for Dick Smith, he wouldn't have
• 24:13
  Speaker 7: really gotten into makeup. Because, yeah, Dick Smith was just
• 24:16
  Speaker 7: a legend within the makeup industry. You know, whether it's,
• 24:19
  Speaker 7: you know, Rick Baker or Doug Drexler, I mean, all
• 24:22
  Speaker 7: of them were just highly influenced by his work or,
• 24:24
  Speaker 7: you know, just close friends with him. And, you know,
• 24:28
  Speaker 7: the huge expansions. of practical effects that happened in the
• 24:34
  Speaker 7: early eighties, I would say that you could pretty much
• 24:35
  Speaker 7: almost entirely credit to him for his work that he
• 24:38
  Speaker 7: was doing in the seventies. And so you had all
• 24:40
  Speaker 7: these young upstarts that not only were seeing like, you know,
• 24:44
  Speaker 7: stuff he was doing with the exorcist and that and
• 24:46
  Speaker 7: wanting to do it themselves, but he was also like
• 24:49
  Speaker 7: very open, very humble with, you know, share information. He
• 24:52
  Speaker 7: put out like that Dick Smith, um, uh, makeup book
• 24:56
  Speaker 7: that was in the back of magazines and stuff that
• 24:58
  Speaker 7: sort of became like, you know, anytime somebody wants to
• 25:01
  Speaker 7: get into makeup, that's the number one thing I recommend
• 25:03
  Speaker 7: to them. I'm like, track down this book. If you
• 25:05
  Speaker 7: can do the stuff in this book, that is the
• 25:08
  Speaker 7: perfect starting point. And even, like, the Dick Smith makeup
• 25:10
  Speaker 7: certificate is still, like, the golden ticket within Hollywood if
• 25:13
  Speaker 7: you can get practical makeup jobs. I mean, everybody's just
• 25:18
  Speaker 7: cheaping out and going digital, which is sad, but.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Well, that's an interesting time because you really can pinpoint exactly, like,
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: what a shift it was in the early 80s because
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: go back and look at, like, 60s and 70s, it's just, like, theatrical.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: It's just buckets of paint is your blood and, like,
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: some bad, like, spirit gum stuff stuck to your face.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: But you hit that early 80s run there, and it's, like,
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: it's revolutionary how it changed.
• 25:44
  Speaker 7: Which, I mean, yeah, the stuff, you know, not even
• 25:45
  Speaker 7: for Exorcist, but, you know, everything from, like, Altered States
• 25:48
  Speaker 7: to Amadeus. It's just, there's old age makeups and transformation stuff.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: It was all amazing. And that's when they added that
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: to the Oscars, isn't it?
• 26:00
  Speaker 7: They added it in 81. American Werewolf in London was
• 26:03
  Speaker 7: the first one to get it. Probably if they'd had
• 26:04
  Speaker 7: it for 80, then Smith might have got it for
• 26:07
  Speaker 7: Altered States the year before. But no, 81 with American
• 26:09
  Speaker 7: Werewolf in London was.
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: The first year.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: That's what I thought. It was that push when they
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: all started doing that. They were like, this is so amazing.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: We need to create a character.
• 26:17
  Speaker 7: And they'd done some special awards in makeup prior, like
• 26:20
  Speaker 7: John Chambers got one for Planet of the Apes. I'm
• 26:23
  Speaker 7: trying to remember. There were a couple others. I want
• 26:25
  Speaker 7: to say, I think Jack Pierce got... like an honorary Oscar,
• 26:30
  Speaker 7: I think. I won't swear to it. But, I mean, yeah,
• 26:34
  Speaker 7: that push is what caused that to pop up in 81.
• 26:37
  Speaker 7: Of course, now it's kind of gotten to where it's...
• 26:42
  Speaker 7: It usually ends up either going towards, like, costume dramas
• 26:46
  Speaker 7: or stuff to where, you know, you look at it
• 26:48
  Speaker 7: and it's like the makeup's almost too outlandish, but, you know.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Before we totally leave Rick Mayall, I found the story
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: that I think summed him up kind of perfectly, though.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: He said, before, because he, according to this, in 98,
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: he had a serious quad bike accident, which, I don't
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: know what to think about that anyway. But he was
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: in a coma for several days. And it says, his
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: first words under gaining consciousness were, to the doctor, so
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: you're the bastard that keeps sticking needles into me. I'm like, yeah,
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: that sort of sums up Rick.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Well, he was, you know, his, uh, his comedy was
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: really that, that I would say the springboard for a
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: lot of British comics, French and Saunders and, um, Ed
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Edmondson and, and folks like that really, not that, you know,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: they couldn't have made it without him, but I think
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: that he was a, it.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: Was a weird little family too. It was a lot
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: of them crossed over.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: They did cross over.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: And so they, um, they're kind of like the, the
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: irreverent Saturday night live, you know, irreverent plus Saturday night live, um, from,
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: from British comedy scene. I mean, they just, they all
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: supported one another. They're like a British second city, you know? So,
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: so funny and, and, uh, really, really smart comedy stuff
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: that makes you, um, I even think back to like
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: some stuff that I saw Rick Mayhall do live. Um,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: I saw it on online, of course, over there, but, um,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: stuff that harkened back to, um, Abbott and Costello, who's
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: on first. I mean, some of the, just, it was
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: brilliant writing and, And you could watch him go. There
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: was one really popular thing that was on YouTube where
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: he went off for like about 13 minutes, went off
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: the tracks, going back and forth with the audience and
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: couldn't help but crack himself up. And the audience just
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: kept feeding into it, feeding it. And as soon as
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: he felt like getting back on the tracks, he just
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: jumped right back on and drove the train into the
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: station it was really amazing watching him him work i
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: mean he was i think one of the quickest wits
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: in comedy and in the late 20th.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: Century that's what's so amazing when you see like interviews
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: and stuff with him and seeing how like intelligent and
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: well-spoken he really is because he gets into those characters
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: and he's just ridiculous and like shamelessly will be stupid
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: but like there's so much like planning behind that in
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: his head like yeah it's.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Well, the Young Ones episode where they have the college party,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: and I think it was Jennifer Saunders. He digs into
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: her purse, and he pulls out a tampon, and he
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: doesn't know what it is. He thinks it's a present,
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: so he unwraps it. And then he thinks it's a
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: mouse because of the little string. And so he's, you know,
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: jumping around. It's a mousey. And then he dips it
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: into somebody's tea and it expands. And he's like, the
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: mouse is growing. Go watch it. Go watch it. Your
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: life will be better as a result.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: He was pretty good.
• 29:56
  Speaker 7: As soon as you mentioned SCTV, I was like, Harold Ramis.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I was just trying to get on
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: that one, too.
• 30:04
  Speaker 7: Because that, to me, is another one of the great
• 30:06
  Speaker 7: sketch comedy shows that not enough people have seen. Because
• 30:10
  Speaker 7: you mentioned sketch comedy, and people think Saturday Night Live
• 30:13
  Speaker 7: or Mr. Show or all this other stuff. You go
• 30:16
  Speaker 7: back to some of those earlier ones, and it's like,
• 30:19
  Speaker 7: once you watch the breadth of those shows, then when
• 30:22
  Speaker 7: you start watching modern stuff, it's like you're watching Mad TV,
• 30:24
  Speaker 7: and it's like, you know, They're just stealing all.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: The old sketches from all these old shows.
• 30:29
  Speaker 7: But, you know, Ramis getting his start on SCTV and
• 30:33
  Speaker 7: then just branching into both acting and screenwriting. I still
• 30:36
  Speaker 7: think Groundhog.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Day is just a masterpiece.
• 30:41
  Speaker 7: I think that is like the crown jewel of his career.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: Everybody goes to the later stuff. But to me, like
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: so much of my youth was centered around stripes. I've
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: seen that. So many times, I guess, because they ran
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: it to death on cable. But, like, again, to look
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: at him that early in, like, that was right after SCTV. And, like,
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: not only is he, like, holding his own with Bill Murray, but, like,
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: he just creates this really great character in that that is, like,
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: so lovable. And, like, I don't know. Again, at that point,
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: trying to go up against Bill Murray is pretty impressive.
• 31:16
  Speaker 7: But, yeah, and then just extending into Ghostbusters in and
• 31:19
  Speaker 7: of itself, that very much was just my childhood for me.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 31:22
  Speaker 7: And that was something else, too. When I got older
• 31:24
  Speaker 7: and I started getting into SCTV, I was like, now
• 31:27
  Speaker 7: I get why Rick Moranis has this character in there.
• 31:30
  Speaker 7: It was something that they'd done over and over in
• 31:32
  Speaker 7: a couple SCTV sketches. Essentially, he's just playing the same character.
• 31:36
  Speaker 7: And so that's what I love is, like, when you
• 31:38
  Speaker 7: see those guys, it's the same as, like, when you
• 31:39
  Speaker 7: see Little Shop of Horrors.
• 31:41
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 31:41
  Speaker 7: All of a sudden, now you've got, you know, John
• 31:44
  Speaker 7: Candy making a cameo appearance. I think Andrea Martin and
• 31:49
  Speaker 7: Joe Flaherty both make really quick, like, walk-on cameo appearances
• 31:52
  Speaker 7: in that. And just the fact that they're always just
• 31:54
  Speaker 7: interacting with one another in all their film projects, I
• 31:56
  Speaker 7: just love it.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: Again, it's that little family that they create of performers,
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: and it's kind of always cool.
• 32:01
  Speaker 7: Eventually, they sort of latched on to Christopher Guest and,
• 32:04
  Speaker 7: you know, ended up in, like, his mockumentaries. But, no,
• 32:08
  Speaker 7: I mean, you know, analyze this as kind of fun, and,
• 32:12
  Speaker 7: you know, Bedazzled has its moments, but I think definitely
• 32:15
  Speaker 7: in the way of, like, Ramis' films, Groundhog Day is
• 32:18
  Speaker 7: the strongest of its directorial efforts.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Forget the Caddyshack.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: Caddyshack, oh, I was just going to say.
• 32:23
  Speaker 7: I forgot that he was, yeah, the director.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: There was a great bio of the making of Caddyshack,
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: and just the slapdash, haphazard way that that film came
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: together is amazing. I mean, who doesn't? They say, hey,
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: we want to do this film about golf, and they
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: sit in a room for two weeks and write something.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: And come up with a puppet.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: And they come up with a puppet, and the exec says, okay,
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: I guess. It should be that way again. It's funny.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: It was on yesterday. I was somewhere, and there it was.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: And I was like, man, I haven't sat down and
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: watched this in forever. And just those little scenes, I'm like,
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: this is just so... Again, it was just so many
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: talented people because it was mostly Ted Knight scenes and
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: I'm like, who would have seen that? He's so good
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: in that as being his jerky self. He cornered the
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: market on playing that guy. But then even National Lampoon's Vacation,
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: I stand by that as being one of the best
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: written pieces and him just finding interesting ways to set
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: all those scenes. Again, he kind of gets forgotten for
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: some of those older.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: Ones, but Even though I'm not a fan of Chevy
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: Chase's off-screen personality, at least from what I've read and heard.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: But Chevy Chase as a comedic actor in that whole
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: series of films.
• 33:47
  Speaker 7: I like him, but for me, I don't know. It
• 33:49
  Speaker 7: was always Christmas Vacation was the one that synced to
• 33:51
  Speaker 7: me just because it was different in the sense that
• 33:55
  Speaker 7: that was when the madness came to them versus them
• 33:59
  Speaker 7: going to it. And, you know, I was like, God,
• 34:02
  Speaker 7: that's my family in the holidays. We would take road trips,
• 34:05
  Speaker 7: but that, like, I was like, this is a bit silly,
• 34:09
  Speaker 7: even though, you know, we would be stuck on these
• 34:11
  Speaker 7: car rides for forever. But as soon as they, like,
• 34:13
  Speaker 7: captured bringing everyone in for the holidays, like, yeah, that
• 34:16
  Speaker 7: one's dead on out of the series. But everyone has,
• 34:21
  Speaker 7: that's always kind of a debate. It's like back and
• 34:23
  Speaker 7: forth between vacation versus Christmas vacation.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: It's not much arguments on your part.
• 34:28
  Speaker 7: No, or Vegas.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: Vegas, I've heard, again, I think that's a later thing.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: I feel like people who didn't experience those early ones
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: and have them ingrained in them yet.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: I do like Papa Giorgio.
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: Nick Papa Giorgio is one of the greatest creations of comedy.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: I heard a lot of people of the next generation
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: that were just like, no, I love that. And they
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: would be quoting things from, I was like, really? You're
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: quoting Vegas Vacation?
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: Ethan Embry is a genius in that movie.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: He really is.
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: And I don't understand why. Have you seen him now? No,
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: I have not.
• 34:57
  Speaker 7: No, the one I have not seen is Christmas Vacation 2.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: He's up for the next detective.
• 35:00
  Speaker 6: Role in the movie.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: He should.
• 35:02
  Speaker 7: Because I know that they made that direct-to-video some years ago,
• 35:05
  Speaker 7: and I'm like, I have no desire at all.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: You know they're bringing it back.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: Because what?
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: They're doing another vacation.
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, Rusty grows up.
• 35:14
  Speaker 7: Are they?
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: What?
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: Rusty is the dad now taking them on vacation. Which Rusty?
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: Who is it?
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: I can't remember.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: I think they've just recast, like always. I think it's another.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Please tell me they're going on the road to visit
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Grandma and Grandpa.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: I think so. I think they're supposed to work both
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: of them in.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Not that that wasn't so easy.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: A five-year-old.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: Well, they did. Did you ever see the, like, half
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: a movie? I guess you counted it, and I guess
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: it counts as canon. But they did, like, a hotel
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: commercial that's, like, it went, I guess it was made
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: straight for the Internet, because it's, like, 10 or 12
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: minutes long, but it's got an, it's the... the mom
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: and dad go in to visit grown-up Rusty, and they're
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: staying in all these, like, terrible hotels along the way,
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: and by the end, you're like, this is a commercial
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: for a hotel, like, a specific hotel, but, like, it
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: really is an extended... short film about those two characters again.
• 36:03
  Speaker 7: I like those sort of things. Kind of like recently
• 36:05
  Speaker 7: you've had those infomercials start popping up on Adult Swim
• 36:08
  Speaker 7: that just take off on the internet. I'm sure everybody
• 36:11
  Speaker 7: in here has seen too many cooks at this point.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: That thing's amazing.
• 36:14
  Speaker 7: But it's like, to me, once they came out with
• 36:17
  Speaker 7: unedited footage of a bear, I was like, they are
• 36:20
  Speaker 7: on fire. Whoever is coming up with this stuff, you
• 36:22
  Speaker 7: look it up and apparently it's just all the usual
• 36:24
  Speaker 7: staff riders at Adult Swim. They're just being given the
• 36:27
  Speaker 7: freedom to just do whatever they want. So it's become
• 36:29
  Speaker 7: almost like this strange, perverse, you know, pissing match, I guess,
• 36:34
  Speaker 7: to where it's like, oh, you think that's weird? Let
• 36:36
  Speaker 7: me show you what I can do.
• 36:37
  Speaker 6: Watch this.
• 36:38
  Speaker 7: And, you know, they've been doing it for so many years.
• 36:41
  Speaker 7: It's either going to, like, get really outlandish, even though
• 36:45
  Speaker 7: it already has, or it's just going to collapse.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: I hope it does both, actually. Well, back to the
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: subject of death. Yeah. Have you ever seen the New
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: Zealand Pizza Company? who did one of the first companies
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: that I ever saw do an extended ad campaign like that,
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: where it was an online choose-your-own-adventure ad campaign, and you
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: have to get the pizza delivery boy to his.
• 37:12
  Speaker 7: Of course, actually, I know the author of the choose-your-own-adventure
• 37:14
  Speaker 7: books also died this past year. Did he really?
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: Yes. Yeah, he did, actually. I remember posting that.
• 37:20
  Speaker 7: You didn't even realize that you were doing a callback,
• 37:23
  Speaker 7: but sure enough.
• 37:24
  Speaker 8: I didn't.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: How sad.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: But, yeah, so you had to get the pizza delivery boy,
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: and you just click which way you want him to go.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: And it's not an animated piece. I mean, this is
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: a program to choose your own adventure.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: Oh, wow. To answer your question, Rusty is Ed Helms.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: So they have once again recast the kids, which, I mean,
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: at this point you kind of have to. Like, it's
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: only funny if you continually. And Audrey is Leslie Mann.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: So they're going big budget on this one. They've got
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: Chris Hemsworth on board. Christina Applegate, they're bringing in Charlie Day.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: Who is funny, funny, funny. Christina Applegate.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: I've always really liked her, but it's amazing now that
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: she's grown up and still, you know, it wasn't a
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: fluke that she started off in a really entertaining show,
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: but she is just genuinely funny.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: She is funny.
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: Wait, can I have another question?
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: Is that okay? Time for the commercial break.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: Please. Go ahead. We'll talk about you when you're done.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: Don't do that.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: I won't come back. I'll die in the bathroom.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: Next up for Lucy. Remember when she used to be
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: on this show?
• 38:36
  Speaker 6: I do.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: Let's play a montage of her hits.
• 38:40
  Speaker 7: Play a montage. Now you have to have a montage
• 38:43
  Speaker 7: of everything that Lucy said in this episode.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: We'll have a flashback episode of a flashback episode. It
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: will collapse upon itself. All the times have come Here.
• 39:18
  Speaker 9: Seasons don't fear the reaper, nor do they win the
• 39:22
  Speaker 9: sun or the rain.
• 39:50
  Speaker 8: The barrier between life and death is no greater than
• 39:53
  Speaker 8: the thickness of a door. Now, the door is open.
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: What do you want?
• 39:59
  Speaker 8: An ancient house, a phantom car, a terrifying confrontation with evil.
• 40:05
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• 41:05
  Speaker 5: It's part of your problem, you know.
• 41:11
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• 41:12
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• 41:15
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• 41:18
  Speaker 5: Valentine is done. Here.
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: Mike Nichols.
• 42:12
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: And I felt like that passing was completely unheralded. I
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: felt like nobody talked about it.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: There's a little that day, but. That is our culture now.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: There's so much you don't get. I kind of felt
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: the same about Dick Smith. I feel like it's just
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: anytime it's not an actor or actress, it just sort
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: of fades really quickly. And even then, you don't get
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: very long. Unless you are those top two names. Those
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: were the only ones that carried on for more than
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: about a day. Even Lauren Bacall. Pretty quickly, nobody talked
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: about it anymore.
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: But I feel like Mike Nichols wasn't even just another writer-director.
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: He was an egot. He was iconic. When you think
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: about how, where he started and where he finished and
• 42:53
  Speaker 5: the fact that he stayed relevant for so many decades. Um,
• 42:56
  Speaker 5: and the fact that him even being involved in film
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: was sort of an accident in the first place, you know, he,
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: he was the Broadway director and Liz Taylor was like,
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: I'm not being in this, in this Albie movie unless
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: you have Mike Nichols direct me. And that's how it
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: all began. And I, uh, his body of work kills me.
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: I feel like there's sort of a thematic thread that
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: runs like between all the films that really appeals to
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: me personally, which is about sort of The Impossibility of Love,
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: but I'll keep on trying.
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: And it's kind of in everything.
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: Like, it's in The Graduate, it's in Heartburn, it's in... Yeah, anyway.
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: But I think he was a master.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: What's your favorite Nichols film?
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: I mean, The Graduate, because it's one of my favorite
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: films ever. I mean, it doesn't get better than The Graduate. So,
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: what's yours?
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: I always liked Silkwood.
• 43:41
  Speaker 5: Ah, you know, I haven't seen Silkwood.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: Oh, you haven't?
• 43:43
  Speaker 5: I have not.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: I think you'll love it. And I do like Primary Colors, too.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: I thought that was a just a fun you know
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: because i was a clinton fan so i just really
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: liked yeah i loved seeing that film that was a
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: lot of fun uh not something that i would want
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: to watch over and over again but occasionally when it
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: comes on cable i'll stop and you know.
• 44:04
  Speaker 7: And play it through i was gonna say that's one
• 44:06
  Speaker 7: i've kind of forgotten all about but i mean i
• 44:08
  Speaker 7: remember john travolta and kathy bates both being a lot
• 44:10
  Speaker 7: of fun oh yes i saw it way back when
• 44:13
  Speaker 7: it first came.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: Out and I remember, again, just all the way up
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: until the end, like, I remember being pretty impressed with Closer.
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: Closer was amazing.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: To be that far into his career and still being relevant,
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: you know?
• 44:23
  Speaker 7: I would say, yeah, Closer is probably my favorite of
• 44:26
  Speaker 7: all of his. I mean, you know, I like The Graduate,
• 44:28
  Speaker 7: you know, objectively, but in the way of, like, something
• 44:30
  Speaker 7: I can just put in and.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: Like, enjoy, enjoy. I don't know.
• 44:34
  Speaker 7: To me, there's, like, that difference between can I watch
• 44:37
  Speaker 7: a film and say it's a good film?
• 44:38
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 44:39
  Speaker 7: But is it something to where I would want to
• 44:40
  Speaker 7: own it? know and it just might not have that
• 44:43
  Speaker 7: emotional appeal to me that it does to you but
• 44:46
  Speaker 7: yeah just something about closer it just i don't expect
• 44:50
  Speaker 7: her just looking at the list there just seemed to
• 44:53
  Speaker 7: be more viscerality when it came to the emotional investment
• 44:56
  Speaker 7: of the characters that appealed to me just looking at
• 44:59
  Speaker 7: the list here carnal knowledge to oh that's a great
• 45:02
  Speaker 7: one and.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: Then like Silkwood the wolf?
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: Oh, wolf.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: I'm not even sure.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: I knew that. That's one that I would try to erase.
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: We're just going to forget about that one.
• 45:13
  Speaker 7: God, I'd forgotten he did the birdcage.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: The birdcage did Day of the Dolphin. It's such a
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: weird spectrum.
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: Oh, I forgot about the Day of the Dolphin.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: I was like, look at that, going, God, that was
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: him too, wasn't it?
• 45:25
  Speaker 7: But see, those are the directors that I always liked.
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: That's a failure as.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: A movie, actually.
• 45:28
  Speaker 7: Where they strive to be diverse instead of just... pigeonholing
• 45:32
  Speaker 7: themselves into always doing exactly like, you know, it's like, oh,
• 45:36
  Speaker 7: John Carpenter's doing another horror film.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: How about that?
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: It confuses people when they stray into a baseball movie.
• 45:43
  Speaker 7: I like David Lynch, but still at the same time,
• 45:45
  Speaker 7: it's like, David Lynch is doing another hot offbeat movie.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: You can't really do much else. He's a crazy man.
• 45:53
  Speaker 7: Straight Story is a fantastic movie. It's still his level.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: Of weird, but it's dialed back a lot.
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: But see, that totally.
• 45:59
  Speaker 7: Threw me off, where I was like, I like this.
• 46:01
  Speaker 7: I almost, and I got really intrigued for a bit.
• 46:03
  Speaker 7: I was like, is he going to start going off into,
• 46:05
  Speaker 7: you know, trying something else? Even though I love, like,
• 46:08
  Speaker 7: all Lynch prior to that. Really, all Lynch after, I'm like, ugh.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: But, yeah.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: Meshack Taylor. There you go.
• 46:17
  Speaker 5: How are these people not showing up on any of
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: these lists? I forgot about that one, too.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: You can't have Hollywood without Hollywood. I don't know if
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: that was the most responsible portrayal, but it's pretty memorable.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: You got to give him credit. That's most of my
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: film for him. I didn't care for designing women. But again,
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: he seemed like he did a good job at that.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: It was a nice paycheck for years.
• 46:41
  Speaker 7: We also lost the king of the B-movie villains, Richard Kiel,
• 46:44
  Speaker 7: passed away this past year.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: That one, I don't feel like I have to go
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: into a lot of weird backstories because I can just
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: reference you to the episode.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: That's the only one on the list that's actually been
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: on the show. So go back to episode 200. he's
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: pretty awesome. Like, I was amazed.
• 47:01
  Speaker 7: Exactly episode 200? Yeah.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: A giant of an episode. Episode 200. And he, I mean, again,
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: I kind of started, like, I was way more fascinated in, like,
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: his growing up stories, like, because he got really big and, like,
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: it was trying to deal with that at a time
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: when there wasn't a culture. Like, he had to have
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: things special made for him because there weren't big and
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: tall stores, you know? It's like, everything had to be, well,
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: not like that, but, like, Everything. He had to have
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: a bed custom made for him. Eventually he had to
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: get a separate car. It's like everything had to be
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: custom made because he just didn't fit in the regular world.
• 47:38
  Speaker 7: So that goes back to did you make your bed? Yes.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: Somebody did. I gave him some money and somebody did.
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: Speaking of Bond villains that died this year, Jeffrey Holder,
• 47:49
  Speaker 5: who I only knew as the 7-Up spokesman. So when
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: he passed, I was like, no, that guy. But had
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: no idea until I looked into it, the career that
• 47:59
  Speaker 5: he'd had previously, that he was a dancer and choreographer.
• 48:02
  Speaker 7: And that he'd gotten the wins over all that.
• 48:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 48:04
  Speaker 7: That's my favorite of the Roger Moores.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: Well, it's very obvious it came in the blaxploitation era.
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: I'm totally fine.
• 48:13
  Speaker 7: That makes it such a different bond that it is
• 48:15
  Speaker 7: the blaxploitation bond. You know, because all the rest of them,
• 48:19
  Speaker 7: then it starts, you're like, For your eyes only, you
• 48:22
  Speaker 7: only live twice. It's like they're all blending.
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 48:26
  Speaker 7: But it's like live and let die. That one sticks
• 48:28
  Speaker 7: out like a sore thumb, but in a good way.
• 48:31
  Speaker 7: I'm sorry.
• 48:31
  Speaker 5: No, that wasn't.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: So what else did he do? Choreography?
• 48:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, he began as a dancer, I guess, when
• 48:39
  Speaker 5: he's from Trinidad. And I think somebody discovered him dancing
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: there and he came to America. And then there's this
• 48:43
  Speaker 5: beautiful love story with his wife, who was actually also
• 48:45
  Speaker 5: a renowned dancer. And they were married for like, you know,
• 48:48
  Speaker 5: 60 some years or something. There's actually a documentary about
• 48:50
  Speaker 5: their love story. He's just a lot more.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: Like what style?
• 48:55
  Speaker 5: Uh what do you ballet yeah jazz all of the
• 48:59
  Speaker 5: dance honestly and i guess he did the costume design
• 49:02
  Speaker 5: for the whiz on broadway and maybe the production design
• 49:05
  Speaker 5: he was he was very had a big hand in.
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: In that.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: Very multi-talented yeah i'm trying to remember also a painter.
• 49:13
  Speaker 7: Sydney lamette was that this year or last year.
• 49:15
  Speaker 5: That was not this year i'm not sure it was
• 49:20
  Speaker 5: last year either. I thought it was the year before.
• 49:21
  Speaker 7: Maybe I'm... Okay.
• 49:22
  Speaker 5: It's been a while, I think.
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 49:24
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 49:24
  Speaker 7: You just said The Wiz and that reminded me. But
• 49:26
  Speaker 7: I guess maybe it has been longer than I thought.
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: It feels like it was at least last year.
• 49:31
  Speaker 7: But yeah, Richard Kiel, I mean, he was... really 50s
• 49:34
  Speaker 7: through 70s you'd see him in a lot of stuff
• 49:35
  Speaker 7: and he just sort of disappeared after that but i
• 49:37
  Speaker 7: think he was having a lot of health issues when
• 49:39
  Speaker 7: it came to walking and all the rest just because
• 49:41
  Speaker 7: you know i mean that height is gonna be hard
• 49:44
  Speaker 7: on your heart it's gonna be hard on what.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: I was just talking about the last episode about peter
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: mayhew i'm like the fact that he's supposedly working on
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: these new films i'm like when you're that big a
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: lot of health issues like he's had trouble walking periods
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: i'm like the fact that richard keel seemed like he
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: hung in there because like even the happy Gilmore days
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: like he was still kind of you know pulling in
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: you know pretty good work and being imposing which was
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: his job and everything just about so yeah I think
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: I think he still seemed to be relatively happy he
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: just yeah he had a lot more health issues as
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: he got old yeah 2011 actually oh.
• 50:23
  Speaker 7: Hell all the years are blending together yeah That's a long, well,
• 50:29
  Speaker 7: I guess definition of a long time ago is subjective.
• 50:34
  Speaker 7: Longer than I thought it was.
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: Do we want to hit Sid Caesar before we forget?
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: Don't hit him, he's dead.
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: It's funny, as long as it's for comedy purposes, he's okay.
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: Hit like a foam bat. He would be on board.
• 50:50
  Speaker 7: Between him and Jonathan Winters, those were the two that
• 50:54
  Speaker 7: in It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World that I
• 50:56
  Speaker 7: just find the funniest. Because the entire frustration of just
• 51:01
  Speaker 7: trying to get out of the basement of the hardware store.
• 51:04
  Speaker 7: To me, the first time I watched It's a Mad, Mad, Mad,
• 51:07
  Speaker 7: Mad World, I don't think I even laughed that much.
• 51:10
  Speaker 7: And it's one where the more I watch it, the
• 51:13
  Speaker 7: funnier it gets because you just start really growing attached
• 51:18
  Speaker 7: to these characters and the journey they take you on. And,
• 51:21
  Speaker 7: you know, out of all of them, he very much
• 51:23
  Speaker 7: feels like just the everyman. And, of course, we lost
• 51:27
  Speaker 7: Mickey Rooney this year, too, who also was in that
• 51:30
  Speaker 7: as well. And the whole Mickey Rooney, Buddy Hackett stuff,
• 51:33
  Speaker 7: I mean, that's fun. But, yeah, just as Sid sees it,
• 51:37
  Speaker 7: he's just so damn frustrated from beginning to end. And
• 51:40
  Speaker 7: you just feel so sorry for him. You can feel
• 51:43
  Speaker 7: that frustration.
• 51:43
  Speaker 5: That's why I can't watch that movie. I'll never be
• 51:45
  Speaker 5: able to watch that movie again. It makes me nervous.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: I think it was, that's another one of those weird ones.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: Why does it make you nervous?
• 51:52
  Speaker 5: It's just too frenetic. There's just too much happening and
• 51:55
  Speaker 5: it's too, like, I don't know. Same reason my dad
• 51:58
  Speaker 5: can't watch The Amazing Race, I guess.
• 52:00
  Speaker 7: It's like when, um, when Mickey Maroney passed away, I
• 52:04
  Speaker 7: saw an interesting article go up and I'd never even
• 52:06
  Speaker 7: thought about this, but, um, it's an old Warner Brothers
• 52:09
  Speaker 7: cartoon to where, um, I can't think of the name
• 52:12
  Speaker 7: of it. It's on the second volume of the Looney
• 52:14
  Speaker 7: Tunes cartoon story. It's set in like a Hollywood nightclub,
• 52:17
  Speaker 7: I think the Brown Derby or somewhere else. And you
• 52:19
  Speaker 7: have just all the different caricatures of all the Hollywood
• 52:23
  Speaker 7: stars of the 30s. And you've got Clark Gable, William Powell,
• 52:26
  Speaker 7: and all these people interacting. And they're just doing like
• 52:30
  Speaker 7: goopy little quick throwaway gags. And somebody brought up about
• 52:33
  Speaker 7: how Mickey Rooney is in it. And he's actually, when
• 52:36
  Speaker 7: he died, he was the last caricature.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: Of that era, huh?
• 52:40
  Speaker 7: That was in that cartoon, like every other character that
• 52:43
  Speaker 7: they're spoofing, all those actors and actresses are long gone.
• 52:46
  Speaker 7: And he was the last one. I was like, I
• 52:48
  Speaker 7: would have even never put that one, one together. That
• 52:50
  Speaker 7: was an interesting like thought. Cause he spans so many
• 52:54
  Speaker 7: different generations starting off as like a kid star, but
• 52:57
  Speaker 7: then succeeding not only as an adult, but even like,
• 53:01
  Speaker 7: you know, when he got older, He was totally open
• 53:04
  Speaker 7: to just playing the crotchety old man for fun.
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: In some of the worst movies. He would turn up,
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: but I could never tell if it was like he
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: needed money or he just didn't care. He just wanted
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: to work. And people offered him stuff, and they could
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: be like, oh, look, we have Mickey Rooney in our movie.
• 53:18
  Speaker 7: He's one actually, he's got to be up there in
• 53:21
  Speaker 7: the way of record holders for the length of acting career.
• 53:25
  Speaker 7: Because he started so young, and he went for so
• 53:28
  Speaker 7: long until the very end.
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 53:33
  Speaker 5: Speaking of people who continue to have careers, although was
• 53:35
  Speaker 5: a lot more sort of conscientious about making good choices,
• 53:40
  Speaker 5: Eli Wallach was one that saddened me endlessly.
• 53:44
  Speaker 7: Have you seen him as Mr. Freeze in Batman?
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: No.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: Talk about the death of a career.
• 53:55
  Speaker 7: But anyway, continue. It wasn't Schwarzenegger.
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: It's okay.
• 53:58
  Speaker 5: I guess I was just thinking of, like, the Polanski
• 54:00
  Speaker 5: film and stuff like that, where he showed up in
• 54:02
  Speaker 5: later years, and you're like, oh, my God, he's still, like,
• 54:05
  Speaker 5: not only working, but traveling to work.
• 54:07
  Speaker 7: And he was also still showing up in The Associates,
• 54:10
  Speaker 7: starring Whoopi Goldberg.
• 54:11
  Speaker 5: Okay, well, maybe I'm getting cherry-picking right now, but.
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: Shut the theory to hell.
• 54:17
  Speaker 5: I got to say, I had not realized until fairly
• 54:20
  Speaker 5: recently that his first actual movie role was Babydoll, which
• 54:24
  Speaker 5: blows my mind. Yes, exactly.
• 54:27
  Speaker 7: I didn't realize that.
• 54:28
  Speaker 5: I didn't either. I mean, he was completely a theater
• 54:30
  Speaker 5: actor up until that time, and that was his first role.
• 54:32
  Speaker 7: Now I have to go back and rewatch it. What
• 54:34
  Speaker 7: character does he play in that?
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: It is unbelievable.
• 54:37
  Speaker 5: He plays the Italian fellow who seduces babies.
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
• 54:42
  Speaker 7: I don't think I ever put one and one together.
• 54:44
  Speaker 5: No, I mean, it is the sexiest. That scene is,
• 54:47
  Speaker 5: I just rewatched it on YouTube last night, and I
• 54:49
  Speaker 5: was feeling a little nervous.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: I've got it at home.
• 54:50
  Speaker 7: I need to go back and rewatch. It's been a
• 54:52
  Speaker 7: long time.
• 54:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's incredible. He's incredible in it. And so, so sexy.
• 54:57
  Speaker 5: So weirdly sexy. Eli Wallach was so weirdly sexy.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so sexy and Eli Wallach are just in my
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: recent memory of the man.
• 55:10
  Speaker 7: Everybody else, you say, you like Wallach and Sexy, and
• 55:12
  Speaker 7: they're just having, like, images of Tuco from Good, Bad,
• 55:15
  Speaker 7: and Ugly just pop up in their head, just him
• 55:17
  Speaker 7: all sweaty and grizzled and out in the desert.
• 55:21
  Speaker 5: I am telling you, go back and watch Babydoll. It's amazing.
• 55:24
  Speaker 5: It's amazing. It's an amazing scene.
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: How about Casey Kasem? Yeah, I was thinking, it's like,
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: we can't sit here in front of microphones and do
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: an audio show and not mention Casey Kasem. I mean, he.
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: Again, he... He started to not fit in the times.
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: You know, it's like I don't know that he would
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: work now on the radio because there is no radio
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: like he used to do. It's all changed so much.
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: But I'm like thinking back to what he did and
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: like how influential he was in his era just as
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: far as like radio personality. But then crossing over into
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: voiceover work and like... I mean, he was playing Shaggy
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: up until 2009. He was still playing Shaggy.
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: Like.
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: He had done so many incarnations where everybody else just
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: kept changing, but he had nailed that voice so perfectly
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: that I'm surprised he didn't turn up in that live action. Huh.
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: Take that, Matthew. Old Scoob. That's pretty good.
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: Zoinks. Yeah, my sister would. I clearly remember my older sister,
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: when we lived in California, she would lie on her
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: bed on weekend mornings and keep meticulous notes on the
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: top 40 list.
• 56:36
  Speaker 6: Aww.
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: And I would go in and, you know, fuck with
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: her and mess up her list. Yeah, that's really, as
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: far as Casey Kasem as a radio personality, I, you know,
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: some would say he was, you know, revolutionary or whatever.
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: I just didn't, I never saw it. I never saw it.
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: But as a voice actor, I thought he was, you know,
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: he really is imprinted into the, you know, the social
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: consciousness of, or the popular consciousness.
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, when you're Cliffjumper, come on. Then everybody gets
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: to you.
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: But most people know him as that radio personality. Yeah.
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: The whole top 40 and the, you know, the, the,
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: the dead dog dedication rant, which is one of my
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: personal favorites.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: It became so silly that it was like he was,
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: everyone else made fun of it to the point that
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: then you would hear him still doing it towards the
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: end there, and you're like, I don't know that I
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: can take this seriously anymore. That time period had almost
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: passed when he was still doing it towards the end.
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: You're just like, it seems like it's mimicking itself now,
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: but he's not. He was very earnest about it, but
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: it was just strange to listen to at that point.
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: I did see that I don't think I knew that
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: much about him beforehand. It said before he got into radio,
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: he was drafted into the Army in 1952, sent to Korea,
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: and was a disc jockey there and announcer for the
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: Armed Forces Radio, a Korean network.
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: That was kind of interesting.
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: I had no idea he was in the military.
• 57:59
  Speaker 5: That's a Robin Williams tie-in.
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: That's what I thought.
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: Armed Forces Radio voiceovers. My buddy Rich Green, he was
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: the morning D.J., Good detaining. Rich Green, yeah. Rich Green.
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: And so what was so strange is that we grew
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: up quite literally down the street from one another and
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: never knew it. Oh, wow. And we met in Panama. What?
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: Which was so strange. That is so strange. Yeah, I mean,
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: he was seven houses down from me.
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: And we never knew that we grew up in the
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: same neighborhood. And so we met in Panama, and he
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: was the morning radio guy, and so he would have
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: me do coming to do character voices in the morning
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: with them, back when the radio was still live. So
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: it was a lot of fun.
• 58:41
  Speaker 5: That's great.
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: Are you going to do something now? No.
• 58:45
  Speaker 5: That's how you're so good at your zoinks.
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: Well, we did.
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: He set it up so much.
• 58:51
  Speaker 6: I know.
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: I was like, here they come.
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: I've already given you an example of my voice.
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: The most famous one was when Milli Vanilli, remember when
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: the whole Milli Vanilli thing broke?
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: That's not still current?
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: It was a slow news week, trust me.
• 59:07
  Speaker 7: It was very much like a wave. It broke and
• 59:09
  Speaker 7: it quickly receded.
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: Well, we went on the air and I did Mickey Mouse.
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: Goofy had dirty pictures of me and I was afraid to,
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: Is that true? I think this might just be out
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: of your actual life. pretty sure.
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was sad.
• 59:28
  Speaker 5: I gotta say, when that Milli Vanilli record came out,
• 59:30
  Speaker 5: I actually, I was like 12, I guess, and I
• 59:32
  Speaker 5: actually really loved it, and I felt like my musical
• 59:35
  Speaker 5: taste had already sort of evolved past that, and I
• 59:37
  Speaker 5: didn't understand why I liked it, and I felt really
• 59:39
  Speaker 5: guilty about it, like it was a super guilty pleasure that.
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: Made me put it on the horizon.
• 59:43
  Speaker 5: But then when I found out that they were actually
• 59:45
  Speaker 5: just old session dudes, I was like, nope, I'm still cool.
• 59:49
  Speaker 5: They weren't a pop band at all, it was just
• 59:51
  Speaker 5: a bunch of dudes from Detroit.
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: In their 70s.
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. Because you know it's true.
• 59:55
  Speaker 5: Yep, girl.
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: Well, in the Mickey Mouse spinoff, Mickey's voice was not
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: the real one on the fan club theme song.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: Wait, that's a lie, too. Is that tough on yourself
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: as a kid?
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 7: Like, no, you should not be liking this. You should
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 7: not be liking this. It's like, no, I'm sorry. When
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 7: I was a kid... I gave in.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I like M.C.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 7: Hammer because I was nine.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 5: Well, if I were nine, it would be different.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: I was 12.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 5: You should know better when you're 12.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: You're a 12-year-old Lucy sitting in a room playing her 45.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: A girl you know what's doing, flogging herself. Well, I
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: suppose the.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 7: Age is the age to where suddenly you do show
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 7: up to the school roller skink party. Roller skink? Roller
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 7: skating party.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: Roller skank party.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: I kept looking for those. I think you just wrote
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: a new movie.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: I spent a year there one night.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 5: Yikes. I just, speaking of music, I'm speaking of albums,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 5: it's hard for me to think of Casey Kasem and
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 5: not think of the Negative Land sampling of Casey Kasem.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: He did have some fun outtakes over the years.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 5: So look that up, kids.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 7: All right.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: Well, before I forget, like one of the most monumental
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: moments in my life, Gilligan's Island.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 7: Oh, Russell Johnson.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: Again, so much of my childhood was built around Gilligan's Island.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure I lived on the island for several years. Yeah,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: it's probably a shame how much time I devoted to
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: Gilligan's Island. But again, another one of those that spent
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: a good portion of his career working in actual film,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: and then now people know as The Professor, but you
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: go back and all these old He was.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 7: In like This Island Earth.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: It came from Outer Space. But he was in a
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: ton of westerns too. You can kind of see that.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: He looks like he'd fit in just fine in a
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: cowboy hat. But yeah, like what else? Ma and Pa
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: Kettle at Waikiki.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 5: What is that?
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: Are you not familiar with the kettle?
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 7: Well, even though in the way of like childhood movie roles,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 7: even though this is not what, you know, the actor
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 7: should be best remembered for, but Richard Attenborough probably from
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 7: most are like, Oh, Jurassic Park.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah. That's the way everybody now remembers.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 7: The one thing I've always, always wanted to see, cause
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 7: it's supposed to be one of his best films, Brighton Rock. Um,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 7: essentially it's like supposed to be the British Scarface. Um, it's,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 7: been out of print for years upon years. I don't
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 7: think it's ever been released on DVD in the United States.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 7: And I keep hoping that every now and then Criterion
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 7: talks about releasing it because I would love to see
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 7: it because it's like heralded as, you know, this great
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 7: British classic. And it's when he's fairly young. I want
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 7: to say it's like right post-World War II.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: Late 40s.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: I want to say. So, um, I don't know.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 7: It's one to where I've just heard nothing but positive,
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 7: but it's impossible to find in a way of like
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 7: Richard Attenborough's early stuff. Um, and the way of like
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 7: slightly later stuff, the great escape, he's fantastic. And then
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 7: of course we lost James Garner this year as well.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 7: So you lost two of the major players from that film.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: Got to tie in for that one. If you want to,
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: if we're ready for James Garner.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 6: Sure.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: I'm always ready. well this was like because I remember
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: when it happened like that day that it hit the
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: internet I just my first thought was Maverick no my
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: first thought was my first thought was oh Ken because
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: our friend Ken who has been on the show quite
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: a bit this past year he's been on at least
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: three times that I could think of I knew like
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: what a huge James Garner fan he was and I
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: was just like that oh man I was like this
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: is gonna hit him hard And I told him that.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: I was like, I may take some from that post
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: that he did here because I don't think I can
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: rattle off some stuff that he's in, but I don't
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: think it's going to do it justice. So the day
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: that he died, he posted, After losing my last job
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: three years ago, I made a decision to go freelance.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: As I developed a routine working from home, I began
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: to take my lunch hour with Jim, watching old episodes
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: of the Rockford Files on MeTV. Soon I found similarities
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: between Rockford and I. No, I've never been to jail,
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: never been shot at, never in a fist fight. But
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: here was a guy living his life by the seat
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: of his pants. Sometimes he'd be flush, most times he
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: was broke. He worked odd hours and had odder friends.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: He liked tacos, his dad was a truck driver, so
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: was mine. He'd get the girl and lose the girl,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: usually in the same episode. He'd stick his neck out
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: for people that oftentimes didn't deserve it. But he believed
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: in the nobility of the common man. All things I
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: could relate to or aspire to. And one more thing,
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: he never gave up. No matter how bad the circumstances, battered, bruised,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: and broke, he got up. Sometimes he got lucky. Sometimes, okay,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: most times, his friends were there to bail him out.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: But it was Jim's courage and willingness to fight against
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: the odds in the darkest times really spoke to me.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: If I could just hold on, be clever, and smirk
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: at the bad guy, maybe I could live long enough
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: to see my fortunes change before the credits roll. That's
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: why Mr. Garner's passing has affected me so deeply. Not
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: only does it mark the end of the life of
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: a great actor and entertainer, But his turn, and in
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: turn Rockford's passing, means saying goodbye to a friend and companion,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: though some through some dark days, and also, in a way,
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: it symbolizes an end in an important chapter in my life.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, whatever.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: Wow. Like, it was so, like, attached to this. That's enduring, though.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: That was a lovely tribute. That's what I'm saying.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: It is a lovely tribute. That was for you, Ken.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: Thanks for letting us share that with everyone.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 7: You say that, and it got me thinking, you know,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 7: throw out another episode idea. Um, and you might say, no,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 7: we did this on this episode, but has there ever
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 7: been an episode to where we had people like share,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 7: not necessarily like, I know we've done ones where it's like,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 7: you know, movies that impacted you, your youth, um, other
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 7: ones to where it's like quintessential favorites, but in the
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 7: way of like, just either television or films, I associate
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 7: more with television than films of just discovering a show
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 7: that felt like a gift. It was just the right time.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 7: It was almost like somebody out there. got you that
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 7: seems to be like what he's kind of describing with
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 7: the rockford files you just attach.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: Yourself to it in a way that you don't even fully.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 7: Understand yeah like you know because dave conover comes on
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 7: every now and then he and i've you know kind
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 7: of had that talk with like two or three different
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 7: you know shows and we've even had evenings to where
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 7: we come over and it's like this is a show
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 7: that i had this connection with you know because it
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 7: was just this is where i was at in my
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 7: life at this time this is why it hit a
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 7: right note and then he likewise so i don't know
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 7: has that ever been.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah Work that in somewhere.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: I don't think we've done anything that specific of that type.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 5: That sounds like a very special episode.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Not one of those fixing the bike
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: at the bike shop special.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 5: Episodes, right?
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: I don't think we want one of those special episodes.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 5: Speaking of, Marianne Mobley.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 5: There we go. There's that transition. Different strokes. But for me...
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 5: Elvis movies. Also for me, being married to Gary Collins
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 5: because that has to be an undertaking in and of itself.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 5: That is his name, right?
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: Coleman? No, Collins.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: Gary Coleman?
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 5: She was not married to Gary Coleman.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: That would have sucked.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 7: She went different strokes and I'm like, Gary Coleman, what?
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 4: Am I following?
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: That would have been awesome.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 7: Sorry, my train of thought went totally on the wrong railing.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 7: What are you talking about?
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 5: Anyway, Mary Ann Mobley, I remember they used to, she
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 5: and Gary Collins, if that is in fact his name,
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 5: which I'm pretty sure it is. He was sort of
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 5: a career alcoholic broadcaster.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 7: I majored in it. D.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: Martin level?
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 7: Or a whimsical sort of Jim Bacchus level.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 5: No, he was like constantly getting D. It's actually a
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 5: really sad story because they were married for decades.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: Lucy's like, stop laughing.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: Stop laughing.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: Jerry Coleman and alcoholics.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: It has to become part of your career. Foster Brooks style.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: You've seen the commercial.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 5: The photograph of him in his shorts and his loafers,
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 5: it got super viral, getting the DUI.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: I can't get Gary Coleman out of my head.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: Now I'm just hoping at some point.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 4: He yelled at me.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 5: Anyway, Marianne Mobley, lovely person. Miss America from Mississippi.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: General Hospital.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 5: And General Hospital, apparently. Did you watch her on General Hospital?
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 5: Did you?
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: I did.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 5: What year was she on that?
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: I think she was on like 80, 82, 83.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 5: I was an NBC gal myself, so I never went there.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 5: Was she good?
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: I don't recall, but I do know she was on it.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 5: Very beautiful. And I guess suffered all kinds of self-esteem issues.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 5: Like I've read interviews where she talks about the Elvis
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 5: movies she was in and how she didn't feel like
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 5: she was pretty enough to be in a bikini. I mean,
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 5: she was a Miss America. But I guess they had
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 5: a really interesting relationship. I had always been told that...
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 5: the one and only co-star.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: Well, living in Gary Coleman's shadow has got to be
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: very difficult.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: Well, see, and you mentioned that, and now all that.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 7: Happened is, like, this episode has self-imploded in my head,
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 7: and I'm thinking of the Zontar episode of SCTV to
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 7: where they got Bonar Bain, Conrad Bain's twin brother, on,
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 7: and there's the entire, like, they're trying to do a
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 7: ripoff of different strokes, like Guy Cavallaro wants to make
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 7: his own different strokes for SCTV.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: Oh, my gosh. I'm sorry, I can't get you. You've
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: got me slap happy now.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: At any rate.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 7: At a throwback, Gary Coleman has also deceased, so we can,
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 7: I guess, get back on track with that.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: As is almost the entire cast.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: Todd's still hanging in there.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: Todd is still there. He's the last one, isn't he?
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: Charlotte Rae, I think, is still alive. I think so.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 5: I can't imagine a world without Charlotte Rae.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: Really? That's the final straw?
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: Neither can Tootie or Natalie or Blair.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: Sadly, I already.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: Did this game.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 5: Don't get Brian started.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: On this one.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 5: Where was I? Oh, back to Elvis. Also dead.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: Also dead. Maybe.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 5: Not sure.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: Unconfirmed. Last I heard, running a bait shop in Maine. But,
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: you know, whatever.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 5: I had always been told that Mary Tyler Moore, I
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 5: think Mary Tyler Moore said this, was the only co-star
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 5: that he hadn't slept with. But apparently also did not
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 5: sleep with Marianne Mobley. In an interview she said that
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 5: they had this really lovely relationship where She said, and
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 5: I've always kind of struggled with Elvis in terms of
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 5: like just his ethical, like where he existed in the.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: World of morality.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: In his real world versus the entertainer, great. Real world,
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: what was he thinking sometimes?
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 5: But he seemed like such a gentleman, but was terrible
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 5: to women. But I guess he would just sort of
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 5: camp women into one of two camps. You were either
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 5: like one of the gals or you were a lady.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 5: And he found Marianne Mobley to be a lady. And
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 5: so he would say, He would say, ma'am, one of
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 5: these days I'm going to throw a party that I
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 5: can invite you to. And so anyway, so we had
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 5: a real friendship, those two. Also both being from Mississippi. Anyway,
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 5: I just find her lovely and charming.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: Like a strange introduction.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 5: And she was in two Elvis films, Girl Happy and
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 5: Harem Scare.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: That's all. I just remember the Tura stories about Elvis.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 5: The what stories?
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: The Tura Satanic. Telling us her stories about Elvis.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 5: Oh, really?
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: Because she was hooked up with Elvis. And very public
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: about it.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 4: Oh, my.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 5: Can you reference that episode number? I would like to.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: I think it's still in the vault.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: We're still waiting to do a whole Tura special because, yeah,
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: she was amazing. But hearing her stories.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 7: I mean, she's now passed.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 7: I would love to just do like, you know, watch
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 7: Faster Pussycat Kill Kill and just break that one apart.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: Best movies ever. But, yeah, basically she didn't have as
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: many problems with Elvis as the colonel. She was battling
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: with the colonel because the colonel. did not like her
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: because she was a very strong-headed woman.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 6: Sanders?
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 7: Yeah, she had issues with him.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: He did not want their affair going public, basically, was
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: his main concern. Interesting. Which I think a lot of
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: Elvis' career was that, is like, you need to seem
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: like you're available all the time so you can have
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: all these other girls that want to be with you, which,
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: I don't know, he was just very, manipulativeness, as we've
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: all heard. Sure.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 5: No, well, the war did so many opportunities for Elvis
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 5: to sort of go beyond what he was. I mean, like,
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 5: legitimate film roles that he would have.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: tanked that pretty quickly.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 5: And what was the deal about him not allowing Elvis
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 5: to tour internationally? It was for some reason the colonel
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 5: knew that if the colonel left the country the colonel
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 5: wouldn't be allowed back in the country and I can't
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 5: remember what the reason was but so he kept telling
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 5: Elvis like it didn't make sense for him to tour internationally.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: A lot of shady business and then the colonel gets involved.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 7: Anyway.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: James Reborn? I was going to say Reborn, yeah.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 7: He's like one of the fun character actors that I
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 7: always dug and you know I guess most will remember
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 7: him for Independence Day or his stuff they did in
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 7: the 90s. Out of all my roles that I like
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 7: him from, it's a stupid role. But you can tell
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 7: he's having a ridiculous amount of fun in it. And
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 7: that is an episode of The Adventures of Pete and Pete.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: One of the best shows ever to grace.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 7: To where he plays, it's either like James or Jim
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 7: McFlimp is the name of the character. And they always
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 7: would take these characters and give them superpowers. He was
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 7: an aluminum siding specialist who would just go door to
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 7: door selling aluminum siding, but his superpower was he could
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 7: talk people into buying anything. So he decided to go
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 7: against Arnie, the strongest man in the world. So essentially,
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 7: James Rebhorn was the Lex Luthor of the Pete and
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 7: Pete world against Arnie, the strongest man in the world.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 7: And so he's going around trying to convince everyone using
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 7: his salesmanship why they should, like, you know, get rid
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 7: of this character in town. I mean, it was just,
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 7: it was very, very goofy, you know, that whole show was,
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 7: but you can just tell that he's just having a
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 7: blast chewing the scenery in this little goofy bit part
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 7: before most anyone even knew his name.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, fantastic character actor. Pete and Pete, though, the adventure's
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: Pete and Pete.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, That's one of those that took a long time.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: At the time, nobody but kids cared about it, but
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: now I hear so many people reference it as.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 3: How influential that was. And that's one of those shows
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 3: where I went back.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 7: And watched as an adult, and I wondered, okay, will
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 7: this fall apart, or will it stand up? For me,
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 7: it stands up. I'm like, this is really damned clever television.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 7: There have been some shows to where I went back
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 7: and I watched them, and I was like, no, I'm
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 7: not 10 anymore. It doesn't work. Yeah, I was in
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 7: the 80s when I watched. but I'm still waiting for them.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: Smart writing, smart directing, you know, and just the, the,
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: I think the injection of underground pop culture with, you know, the, uh,
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: with luscious Jackson and, you know, um, uh, Iggy pop,
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I still keep waiting in the way of like
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 7: all that early Nick cannon for salute your shorts to
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 7: come out. That's just been, you know, chronically absent from
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 7: any release VHS or DVD. I'm not sure what the,
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 7: the storyline is. It's, Maybe there's music rights or something.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 7: I know I've recently looked up Malcolm in the Middle because,
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 7: you know, I wonder, I'm like, why is it that
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 7: only volume one or season one is out on DVD
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 7: and none of the others are? And apparently it's because
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 7: they did so much, used so much pop music, the
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 7: licensing rights. Apparently somebody said, we don't feel like the
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 7: licensing rights we would have to pay to release these
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 7: music episodes are would ever amount to what we'd make
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 7: by selling dvds so.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: Now everybody knows going in but that like 80s to
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: 90s run of shows like nobody thought about it until
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: the wonder years yeah yeah wonder years that killed it
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: forever like.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 7: Uh but still going back to sctv that's why it
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 7: took so long for sctv to be released because they
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 7: always had on different guests and they were trying to
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 7: get all the music licensed out of all the people
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 7: that they could not get the licensing for, sadly, was
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 7: from John Williams, who had not let them, because they
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 7: did the whole Schmenge Brothers covering John Williams music. And
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 7: if you watch the YouTube rips versus what was released
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 7: on DVD, it's like, no, they didn't get the rights
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 7: for it, apparently, from Williams, which is sad. But that
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 7: kills some television being released on DVD, sadly.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: Well, that's why they stopped producing Freaks and Geeks. It
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: just became cost prohibitive.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: When I watch it now, I'm just like, I don't
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: know how they afford it. There's so much and super
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: huge names that I'm just like, I don't even know
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: how they paid for it then. They were still an
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: upstart kind of a TV show, even for network television.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: They worked a lot of stuff in in that one season.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: One season, and I would have loved to have seen
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: that go on for at least three or four.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: It's one of the best shows ever.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: It really is.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: Just re-watching it this past year again, I'm just like,
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: it is so welcome.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: There are those programs where when you see the final episode,
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: you are melancholy. You're just sad. You don't want to
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: see the characters go. That was one of them.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: Well, and I think some of his best writing. I
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: don't think his near as funny now as when he started.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: I think that stuff was so well put together. Now
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: it seems like he's trying so hard.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 7: So then is that another potential episode series to where
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 7: it was either not enough, just right, or went on
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 7: way too long? Have we ever had one where it's
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 7: just like, I feel like there could be some arguments
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 7: there on who felt like things went on too long
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 7: or not enough.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: It's the Cousin Oliver Syndrome. It's when they bring on
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: Cousin Oliver.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: And most long-running, especially sitcoms, get to that point. At
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: some point we have to bring on another cuter kid
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: because these got too old.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: I can't do the modern-day sitcom. I just can't stomach them.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: How I Met Your Mother, The Big Bang Theory.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 3: These are so wildly.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: Popular and I can't. I can't make it through an
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: episode because I can time the jokes. I know exactly
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: when the jokes are coming.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I've had friends, they'll come up to me and say,
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 7: have you ever seen Big Bang Theory? I'm like, no.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: You totally should.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 7: You'd find it funny because you're just like Sheldon. He's
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 7: neurotic and you're neurotic. You're not selling me on the
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 7: idea of ever watching this show at all.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: Don't be like Sheldon. I don't know. That's another one
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: I just have issues with structurally more than anything. I'm
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: just like, who? wrote these scenarios. Like, it just seems
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: so disingenuous. Everything about it, but whatever.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: But the whole idea of a of a sitcom i
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: think is probably well it's to make money from advertisers
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: but beyond that is to take you out of your
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: day-to-day and but they're they're are varying ways of doing that.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: I guess I just want more intelligent comedy. I want,
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: not that I'm an elitist or anything or that I'm
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: overly intelligent as all of you have probably already guessed,
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: but it's that they just, they've dumbed things down so much.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 7: That's one of my main issues, but I think that's probably,
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 7: which is funny because you go back to like the
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 7: early stuff. I mean, you still go back to like,
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 7: I love Lucy. That show is funny as shit.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: Even now. That was hilarious.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: Even now.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 7: And it set the rules by which everybody kind of
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 7: operated from and or copied off of.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: Now, I picked up for Christmas for my dad, I
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: bought him the first five seasons of All in the
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: Family on DVD. And we sat down and we watched
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: the first season and just howled at the jokes.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: There's one as the alternate tie-in. Norman Lear is still alive,
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: for God's sake. They had him on doing press this year,
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: and I was just like, he looks good. He's really sharp.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: I'm just like, maybe.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: He just released a book.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I was watching those interviews. I was like, he
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: is on it. He's really sharp. I'm like, he's getting
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: up there.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: Someday I'll do my Edith Bunker for you, but it
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: won't be today.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: Not today, when?
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: You'll have to have me back for the uncanny Edith Bunker.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: Oh, man.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 7: But yeah, that hits the list I've scrawled on my
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 7: end that I wanted to make sure I didn't forget.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: I was trying to hit some of the ones that
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: nobody else will care about. Marilyn Burns. Again, for not
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: having a huge film career, like you look back at
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: Texas Chainsaw Massacre, which now people still hold up as
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: like one of the best horror movies ever made.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: It is one of the best horror movies.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one of those I've gone back and forth
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: on my thoughts of it, but again, we just went
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: to the drive-in and saw it this year on the show,
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: and like, watching her performance and, like, how much she
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: has to do almost wordlessly. Like, it's just, how can
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: you convey terror through almost hysterics at points and yet
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: still stay on track and keep doing what you're doing? But, like,
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: she has to be, like, that last 45 minutes of
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: the movie, like, is just a train ride of her
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: going through hell and, like.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: And I remember the first time watching that film and
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: watching that performance... being so sucked into it. And I'm thinking,
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: she'll never get beyond this.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: Unfortunately, she never. Helter Skelter's about the only other sizable role.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: And everything else was just horror callbacks later in her career.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: But she never really got recognition for such a good performance.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 5: This is a weird side note. Have you heard about
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 5: the Texas Chainsaw Massacre gas station incident? concept that's happening.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 5: There's some Ohio businessman who is buying it and turning
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 5: it into like a sort of mecca for, it's going
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 5: to be like a horror destination. There's going to be
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 5: a motel based around it. It's going to be.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: So it's nothing... The original location? It's not in the original?
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 5: I think it's in the original location. I don't think
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 5: he's moving it. That seems like it would be excessive.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: I just didn't know if he was just starting it
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: up out of the middle of nowhere, or this is
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: actually one of the original.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 5: No, the actual gas station that's used. And then I
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 5: think he's bringing in other sort of horror elements to it,
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 5: so it'll be an immersive.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: Build a little Bates Motel over here.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: And again, there's enough of a horror fan base out
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: there that might just work.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 7: As long as when he builds the hotel... You have
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 7: to drive on like a dirt path for 10 miles
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 7: until eventually.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: You're like, is he serious?
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 7: Is he really back here?
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: Oh, that must be it.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 7: Like it has to have that factor when you pull
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 7: up to it.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 5: Oh, they're also going to, I just pulled it up
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 5: to get some more information. They are also planning on
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 5: constructing a Friday the 13th themed cabin on the grounds.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 5: And they're bringing in, you're going to have to help
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 5: me with pronunciation, Ari Lehman, the first Jason Voorhees.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's, I don't know. I've seen that
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: guy a lot.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 5: Oh, it's also going to be a live music venue.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 7: First Jason.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 5: I know that fans will travel a long way to
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 5: see the fully restored TCM gas station with a fine
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 5: Texas chili kitchen and stage. Live music. This venue will
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 5: be crowded year round. I love a lunatic with a dream.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 7: See, I think it would be funnier if In doing
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 7: all these horror links and you had a kitchen, that
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 7: you did a kitchen that was a Motel Hell themed kitchen.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 7: Because the whole gag is, what do you eat?
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 5: You might want to give them a call. I feel
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 5: like you could be part of this.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: And running the kitchen would be Andy Diggs.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: Aww. Bringing us back on track.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 5: Yes, good job.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: Which again, does anybody know her from anything? Like, that
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: was my exposure. Like, I was just wondering, other than
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: coming back in the movie, like, I really didn't. Remember
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: her from anything else.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 5: I just rewatched the Brady Bunch Christmas special and she
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 5: kind of was heartbreaking in it.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: Was that like one way later?
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 5: That was in the 80s.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I remember that.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 5: Where Sam had left her.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: For a younger woman. Was this a court sentence or something?
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 7: No, I remember that because I remember our family getting
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 7: together to watch that. Christmas special episode.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's rough.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 7: Out of all the Brady Bunch stuff, that's the most
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 7: ingrained in my brain.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 4: Really?
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 5: Well, so you remember that Sam had left her for
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 5: a younger woman, and she spends the whole episode just crying,
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 5: just breaking into these crying jags over the absence of Sam.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 5: And then Sam shows up at the end, spoiler alert,
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 5: in a Santa outfit, and she's like, Sam! And everything's forgiven.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 5: Just forgiven. And it just breaks my heart for that character.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 5: She deserved better.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: Everything is forgiven. I know you've been screwing some 20-something, but....
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: Eh, as long as she gets her name, whatever. So.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: Elizabeth Pena. Oh, yeah.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: That completely threw me way too soon.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: Way too soon.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 7: And that was one that threw me, too, because it
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 7: was that day. That was, out of all the celebrity deaths,
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 7: that was the weirdest one, because that morning I was
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 7: watching Jacob's Ladder, and I got to think, I was like,
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 7: What the hell has Elizabeth Pena been doing? And then
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 7: I searched her name and it was like two hours ago,
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 7: Elizabeth Pena, 56. I was like, what?
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: What? Elizabeth Pena.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: That's why we had to stop doing the week-to-week segment.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: We were pretty sure we were killing celebrities. So we
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: had to retire it. So now it's like way after
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: the fact. It's not our fault. It's not our fault.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 7: No, I think what slowly killed her from the inside
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 7: was batteries not included. Like that just festered.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: I love that movie.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 7: It's endearing. You know, it's, it's, I'll say this. Like
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 7: when I was a kid, when I was a kid, like,
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 7: you know, when the spaceships get hurt, you know, I
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 7: was just like bawling. And then as an adult, I'm like,
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 7: this is hokey, but it still has a soft spot.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 6: In my heart.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 7: I still have it on VHS and I'm content with
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 7: having it on VHS, you know, with all the commercials
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 7: right in front of it for Energizer.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 2: For Energizer. Well, way too soon. Did not see Jan
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: Hooks coming.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: That was crazy.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 5: I didn't even know that happened until I was reading.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 5: Who died this year.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 2: And it's, that's another one of those I, again, in
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: my head, I think I, it's how you remember stuff.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: So it's like, to me, I assumed that she was
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: in Pee Wee's Big Adventure because she knew people from SNL. The,
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: she got in SNL after Pee Wee's Big Adventure. Like,
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: in my mind, they were just kind of reversed, I
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: guess because I'd watched Pee-wee's Big Adventure so much over
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: the years, it just seemed like, you know, oh, SNL's
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: been around forever, so, you know, but somehow it had
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: gotten mixed up that, yeah, that was before. She wasn't anybody,
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: you know, I always assumed it was a tie-in because
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: she was already somebody, but no, she just got that
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 2: role because she was awesome and, like, to me, one
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 2: of the most memorable characters, certainly of that movie, if
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: not any movie. Man, her and the Alamo. Can't get
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 2: enough of Now, you did mention Joan Rivers, but we
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: didn't really address. That was, I don't know. To me,
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: that's one of those I have to give, you know,
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: not like a ton of movie tie-ins if you don't
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: count Rabbit Test, but, you know, Spaceballs. But just for being.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 5: The Swimmer.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. That's way back, yeah.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 7: Of course, in a way of, I don't know why
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 7: I always associate like her and Elaine Stritch, both of
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 7: them as sort of like these odd sort of, you know,
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 7: biting comedians. And Stritch passed away this year and, you know,
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 7: I've missed her a little bit more. I felt like
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 7: she was one that nobody mentioned at all. And maybe
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 7: it's just cause she did more Broadway stuff than movies,
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 7: but any of her movie roles, she was funny as hell.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 7: You know, I have a soft spot just for, um,
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 7: out to sea, even though I shouldn't, but that was,
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 7: that was like anyone should really, that was the first
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 7: movie I ever saw, like at the Baxter. And so
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 7: I have that attachment to it. And she's funny as
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 7: hell on that. You know, she holds her own against,
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 7: you know, Jack Lemon and Walter Matthau. And, That whole
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 7: thing is like a who's who of bit parts because
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 7: you've got Donald O'Connor's in that.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: Too.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 7: A lot of different character actors pop up in it
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 7: out of fun.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 2: I think Joan was just more amazing as not what
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: she was doing but when she was doing it. To
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: be as innovative and groundbreaking as she was.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 7: I appreciate that she'd also gotten to be a self-parody
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 7: of herself and was fine with that.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: At the end she just wanted to work She was
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 2: still touring. She was still doing comedy up until the
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: week she died. She was still out there recording shows
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: and doing stand-up. She was just a workhorse. Had always been.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 2: I think I always gave her more credit because I
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 2: don't remember watching a ton of it in the middle.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: I remember when she used to be on TV all
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 2: the time and then it's like she was still working
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: all those years, but for just being as innovative as
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 2: she was and hanging in there when there were no
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: female comedians and, like, still trying to do that circuit when, like,
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: how much of a dick must have been stacked against
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: her and, like, didn't care, kept doing it. Like, that's,
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I always give her more credit for, like,
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: just being that groundbreaking early on. I guess we have
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: to do Max Million Shell, right? Isn't that kind of huge?
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: for the people out there.
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: Well, did he spend more time acting or more time
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: trying to disassociate himself from the Nazi party?
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, we let plenty of Nazis still make movies.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: Ross Kinsey had a full career. That becomes a fun
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 2: game as you come out of that era. Like, when
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 2: do we just forgive and let things go? Bygones be bygones.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a That's a tough one to do.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, Black Hole, come on.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 3: That's a tough movie.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: Not those other ones people bring up. No, I'm going
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: with Black Hole.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Black Hole. That's the one where, even as an 11-year-old,
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: where I went, Dad, can we go?
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 2: Maximilian is awesome.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: I think I have homework to do.
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 2: That's the coolest robot possible.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 7: That was one where I, the same way I remember
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 7: seeing that when I was young and thinking, this is boring.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 7: And so when it got re-released, you know, years ago
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 7: on VHS prior to being re-released on DVD, I went
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 7: out and I bought the VHS. I was like, okay,
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 7: I was probably just, you know, because I remembered having
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 7: to watch 2001 in sixth grade and like, this is
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 7: boring as shit, which to a sixth grader it's going
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 7: to be. But then as an adult, I appreciated it.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 7: So I thought, okay, it's probably the same with Black Hole.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 7: And I watched it. I was like, no, this is
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 7: just boring as hell as an adult.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't seen Disney run away from a film
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: so fast.
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 2: Since they dropped Tim Burton. We don't know this weird guy.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 2: Since they dropped John Carter.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: And then they brought him back.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 6: Since they dropped John Carter.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: Since John Carter. That was, but, you know, it's a
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: pretty good track record. There's, what, 30 years in between?
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 2: I was just sold on the robots. The plot, whatever. Which,
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 2: in a way, is awesome.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 7: Disney and just time and all that stuff, somebody was
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 7: pointing out that, or someone mentioned to me the other day,
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 7: that here in about three months, we will officially be
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 7: further away from Phantom Menace being released than Phantom Menace
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 7: is from Return of the Jedi.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 2: Isn't that a weird thing to think about.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 7: As Disney rolls into its next Star Wars movie?
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 2: Kind of disturbing.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 7: Doesn't that hurt when you think about it?
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: And yet the wound is still fresh, isn't it?
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 7: Yeah, because 16 years between Return of the Jedi and
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 7: Phantom Menace.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: Me don't do math in my head.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 7: 16 years, 16 years since Phantom Menace, and we're about
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 7: to encroach upon that breaching point. I made a Blair
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 7: Witch reference at school the other day, and the students
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 7: all stared at me. And I was like, have you
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 7: seen Blair Witch? And they were like, we don't know
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 7: what it is.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 2: The dumb movies that go on now, they're already now.
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 7: I was like, well, no, it was really big in
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 7: the summer of 99. And they're like, well, that's before
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 7: we were born. I was like, oh, god damn.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: Love of god. How old are these kids?
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 2: High school. It's frightening, isn't it?
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: What, what, what, what do you, what do.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 3: You, what, huh?
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 2: You really are having those math issues, aren't you?
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 7: But it's been 16 years since Blair Witch.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: Now almost. Oh, my God.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 7: So, teaching freshmen and sophomores in high school, they're all
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 7: 2000 babies.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: Beyond.
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 2: Think about that.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 3: Looks like I'm going to join the death list.
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 7: As soon as they made that comment, I was like, oh,
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 7: I'm officially an old dude.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: They don't remember. They weren't alive when Blair Witch came out.
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 2: That's true. There's a lot of references you go to
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 2: make now, and you're like, oh, this is really not
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 2: going to hit.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: Best thing about high school girls. I keep getting older.
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: They stay the exact same age. That's true, by the way.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 2: Anyway. Speaking of old weird dudes. Brian, why did you
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: say that?
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: That was completely creepy.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaking of creepy old dudes. This is possibly the
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 2: only one I think I brought up this past year,
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 2: the week of, but just because it was such a
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 2: huge thing in my life, Giger.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: H.R.
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 2: Giger. H.R.
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 7: Giger, yeah.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 2: And I said it then. I was like, even if
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 2: you're not into art, to me, the impact he had
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 2: on the film world, they weren't really bringing in artists
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 2: like that to do just design work and actual physical
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 2: production design.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 7: He would be another one up there with, like, You know,
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 7: you throw him in with Dick Smith in the way
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 7: of like the impact that he had on all those
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 7: practical films of the 80s. I mean, here you bring
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 7: in somebody like Giger to do the set design for
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 7: Alien and that shaped the look of horror. Like, really,
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 7: the two of them shaped, you know, what that entire
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 7: genre would be for, like, the next ten years.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 2: And forever, really. Like, I still see so many things
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 2: in sci-fi movies now that are just sort of referencing
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 2: his style, like, artistically. Like, not even from Alien or
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 2: Species or any of those things he did. But, like,
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 2: just knowing his body of work, I'm like, yeah, this
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 2: is kind of ripped off. And they're taking this little
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 2: piece of what he did here. And, yeah, I don't know. Just, again,
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 2: very strange man. Kind of a genius, kind of a pervert.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 2: You know, you take your pick, but just amazing regardless. Like,
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 2: I was, yeah, so interested in his work, and yet
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 2: it's so weird. That's, I don't know, kind of what
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 2: made him great. He had no problem being weird. But
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 2: I feel like it was all genuine. He wasn't trying
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 2: to get a rise out of people. It was just
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 2: the way he was.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 2: Any other ones we need to hit before.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: We wrap this thing up? Do we have to talk
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: about the obligatories?
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 2: Robin Williams.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 7: I think Robin Williams, Philip Seymour Hoffman. They've had enough talk.
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody's covered now.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 2: This was a weird one that I figured, you know, again,
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 2: nobody's going to care about because it was so long ago.
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 2: But a weird little genre tie-in. Jane Addams was in
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 2: The Brute Man, House of Dracula, Lost City of the Jungle,
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 2: and was Vicki Vale in the Batman and Robin serials. Who?
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 2: She just passed away this year. turned down a full
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 2: scholarship to study violin at Juilliard, and opted to go
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 2: to Pasadena Playhouse and study violin.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 6: That's a shame.
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 2: Another one of these people that, like, nobody really. You know,
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 2: you get up there and people forget about your stuff.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 2: And it's like, I don't know. It's always kind of
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 2: sad when you look back at these people that, like,
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 2: had these massive careers. And by the end, you really
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 2: don't even get mentioned at the end of the year.
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 3: But even for each.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 7: One of those people, though, like you say, there's someone
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 7: like your friend where you were reading there, comment box,
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 7: there's always that one person within the country where that
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 7: actor was that person for them.
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 2: And that's kind of why I threw that one in there.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 2: It's like each person it.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 6: Kind of hits.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 7: It's just cooler to have at least been within the
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 7: film medium as part of your career because so many people,
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 7: they have an entire career and 10, 20 years go by.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 7: What proof really remains of your existence? At least you
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 7: have all that documentation. within all those films that essentially
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 7: say hey i was here i lived i was there
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 7: i'm actually almost sort of like paraphrasing robin williams's speech
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 7: that he gives in one hour photos to why people
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 7: take photographs but you could kind of apply it to
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 7: to like you know at least you know those people
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 7: interacting within those films is like they were here this
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 7: is their work whereas so many other people in different
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 7: professions none of that will ever exist.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 2: When you started that you were making the Robin Williams reference,
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 2: I thought you were going Dead Poets Society. Because it
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 2: also is exactly what he's saying.
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 2: Gather ye rosebuds, all ye worm food boys. That's what
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 2: it's called.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 6: Joan Rivers.
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: We have to talk about Joan. We already did.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 5: And Marianne Mobley.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 2: Yep. You really are close to the end.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: I am close to the end. Did we talk about
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: Joan Rivers? Did I totally blank out?
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 2: Where were you at? It was brief.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: I think I was answering email.
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 2: It did.
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: On that note on that.
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 2: Note well there was one more do we talk about
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 2: Rick Mayhall that's it no.
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 7: The the one that again the only thing that is
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 7: now remaining for us to mention is the horse that
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 7: is dead that we're currently beating.
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 10: So knock him going how familiar are you with him
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 10: I brought him up a couple of times in this
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 10: show because when I went back and saw his like.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: Wasn't he the president of Israel.
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 2: For a while? Prime minister or something? He is from Israel.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 2: and made a ton of movies in his country.
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 2: And then when he came here, became a huge producer
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 2: of gung-ho American movies, producing things like Delta Force. To me,
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 2: that's such a weird dynamic that the man who brought
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 2: us all these 80s movies is born in Israel and, like,
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 2: was pretty popular there in his own right, and then
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 2: came here and just embraced this weird American thing.
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: And apparently he is a huge Michael Ironsides fan.
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 2: So are you.
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: I am, a little bit, I gotta admit.
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 2: But was also just crazy, because I brought him up before,
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 2: because he's also the man that directed The Apple. Produced
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 2: all these weird action movies, and yet directed The Apple,
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 2: because that's the one Catherine Mary Stewart was telling me about,
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, wait, who is this crazy director you're
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 2: talking about? And then I looked up more on him,
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, he's just a crazy man. But, like,
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 2: made so many movies.
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 7: The Apple would probably be my top ten messes you
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 7: have to see to believe.
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 6: Oh, yeah.
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 7: I had actually, at New Year's, I had some people over,
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 7: and we were talking about Robin Williams stuff, and I
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 7: mentioned Toys, and it's a movie geek friend. He's like,
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 7: I've never seen Toys. I said, it's a movie you
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 7: have to see to believe that it exists.
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: To believe you believe.
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 2: But no, this Golan guy, like, he looked, I was
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 2: trying to find the whole, like, rundown here because it's, like,
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 2: so many movies as a producer and, like, that 80s
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 2: run is, like, nothing but weird sci-fi action kind of
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 2: stuff that, like, only people in America would appreciate. So
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 2: the fact that he, you know.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: He's... How many of those titles have the word iron
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: in them?
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 2: Not over the top.
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: No?
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 2: No. fire walker avenging force half of them were chuck
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 2: norris it seems like because produce superman for the quest
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 2: for peace you're welcome for that by the way uh
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 2: masters of the universe death wish for the crackdown braddock
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 2: missing in action three bloodsport i'm like this is this
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 2: is the things he brought us like He's such a
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 2: fascinating character. Mostly today I was watching a clip of,
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 2: because he did Delta Force with him, they were talking
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 2: to Lee Marvin. And this is that era. This is
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 2: old weathered Lee Marvin. And he just kind of like,
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 2: they bring up his name and he just sort of
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 2: shakes his head. And he's just like, that guy. You know,
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 2: and he's just like, okay, when Lee Marvin, who's probably
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 2: seen God knows what in his lifetime, is just like,
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 2: that guy's a crazy man. You know, I'm just like that.
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 2: That says a lot about you, I feel like. So, yeah,
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 2: go look up more about this guy because he's insane.
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 2: And director of the act. Will always be top in
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 2: my list.
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: Did we really talk about Joan Rivers?
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 4: For a while.
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: So, in closing, I will say.
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 7: That now that Robin Williams has passed, now that Bob
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 7: Hoskins has passed, this is my personal open... plea to
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 7: Steven Spielberg please release the outtakes from Hook because it's
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 7: my understanding that apparently during the filming of Hook Dustin
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 7: Hoffman and Bob Hoskins made a game out of being
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 7: as homoerotic as possible as Captain Hook and Smee for
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 7: the sole purpose of pissing Spielberg off every single day
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 7: like they would do it over the top and he'd
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 7: be like guys you need to tone that down okay
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 7: That's not what the movie's about. And then as soon
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 7: as they realized they were onto it, they'd do it
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 7: even worse until apparently Spielberg, not joking.
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 1: Would just get royally pissed. Like, stop it. Stop it.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 7: And then they would go and they would film, but
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 7: the next day they'd do it again. Just apparently the
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 7: two of them were just making some weird homoerotic relationship
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 7: between Smee and Hook. And you can see it when
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 7: you watch the movie, but the outtakes are nowhere to
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 7: be seen. And I want to see what they did.
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 7: And I want to hear Steven Spielberg yelling.
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: To them in the background.
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 6: I want that.
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: As a fan, I find that completely fascinating. I would
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: love to see it. As a producer, it just pisses
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: me off. Because you're rolling film, 35 millimeter back and forth,
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: at a dollar a foot. And it's running at about
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 1: a foot a second. And so that these two can
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: have their little gay off. No way. No, no. Fired,
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: as far as I'm concerned.
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 5: Have some respect, guys.
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, come on. Talking cash.
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 7: I'm sorry, but if you're sticking Dustin Hoffman as Hook
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 7: in that movie in general, it's like, you should just
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 7: be happy that he's having fun with it.
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: In the age of digital, it doesn't count. You do
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: it all day long. You're just paying crew salaries at
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: a flat rate.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 6: Burning film.
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 1: We're talking about burning film. I mean, we're talking about
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: not only the film itself, the exposed film, but we're
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: talking about the processing fees and all the.
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 2: and like paying a thousand to stand around the lot
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 2: while they do that.
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: I'm getting a stomach ache.
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 6: I'm not.
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 7: I want to see it.
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 2: Well, see, all you've done by mentioning it now is
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 2: now it's going to be on the top of the
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 2: list for a reboot. So they're going to bring Hook
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 2: back now. Robin's gone. We can replace with some new
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 2: actor now.
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 1: I'm in Steven Spielberg's camp on this one. Keep that
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 1: shit hidden. Don't release it, Steven. Don't do it. Stop me, Smee.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 2: Don't stop me, Smee.
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 4: Stop me, Smee.
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: Don't stop me, Smee.
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 6: Smee.
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 1: Stop me, Smee. Oh, Smee.
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 7: I just picture it.
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 6: It's just a lot of that.
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 1: Which, as a fan, is really, really funny.
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 3: On that note, we're going to wrap up.
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 7: You regret not killing this show now about 20 minutes
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 7: before we got into all this.
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 2: It's dead now.
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 1: I want to talk about Joan Rivers.
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 5: Leave her out of this.
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 2: She's still alive.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 7: No, it was Gary Coleman who passed this year.
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 2: Gary Coleman's still dead? Yeah.
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: Good to know.
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 7: When Bonar Bain finally passes away, we're having a special episode.
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 7: just to talk about the Zontar episode of SCTV. A
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 7: very special episode.
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: We'll pad it.
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 6: Oh, Lord.
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 2: All right. Well, to round this out, instead of going
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 2: out with the usual song idea, I thought for this episode,
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 2: I came across an animated short film entitled Don't Fear Death. Now,
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 2: when you listen, and I'll post the actual video, the
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 2: animation's pretty cool, too, but the audio says it all anyway.
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 2: But keep in mind, it is narrated by Rick Mayo.
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 2: And it was narrated one year before he died. Don't
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 2: fear death. As he says some very horrid.
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 6: Things about death.
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 2: And embraces them all, actually.
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: As only Rick can do.
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 2: As only Rick would do.
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: One of the biggest losses of the decade.
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 2: Alright, well, we wanted to say thank you, Michael, for
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 2: letting us loiter around in the office.
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 6: Thank you, sir.
• 1:45:43
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  Speaker 1: sent it to you.
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 2: All right. Well, otherwise, that about does it. We will
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  Speaker 2: return next time. Same geek feed. Thanks for listening.
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  Speaker 4: Don't fear death. I mean, why should you?
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  Speaker 9: For a start, everyone's doing it these days. Old people,
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 9: young people, animals. Hell, even travel agents are doing it.
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  Speaker 9: And they're normally the last.
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  Speaker 4: To catch on. Death is so in right now. So
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 4: why be afraid? Look, I was like you once. Wary
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  Speaker 4: of the bright light, scared of the unknown. But then
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 4: it suddenly hit me.
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  Speaker 9: Being dead is absolutely brilliant. Just look at grand old
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 9: Mr Death himself.
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 4: He's more dead than anyone and he's always smiling. Seriously,
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 4: just think of the benefits. For a start, loonies and
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 4: weirdos won't sit next to you.
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 7: On the bus.
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  Speaker 4: Or on the park bench. Or on that tortuous long-haul flight.
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 4: Not anywhere. You'll never have to waste one more single.
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 9: Soul-crushing hour in your mindless dead-end job where you have
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 9: to listen to your psychopathic boss or your mouth-breathing colleagues.
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 4: You're literally dead to them. Blokes! You'll be able to
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 4: sit through.
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 9: Those tedious face-numbing conversations about your mother's terminal irritable bowel
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 9: syndrome or which tie you'll.
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 4: Look best in at the funeral, eh?
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: Results.
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  Speaker 9: And ladies, remember personal hygiene, fashion, extreme diets, makeup.
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  Speaker 4: They'll be a thing of the past.
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 9: Now's the time to show off that bone structure.
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 4: And that's not all, my soon-to-be cadavers. If you want,
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 4: you could just chill out on the beach, kick back
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 4: in the pool, or spend more quality time with the kids.
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 4: You could really live it up when you're dead.
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 9: So you see, death is not the curse that it
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 9: used to be.
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 4: It is your passport to complete and utter freedom. No pulse,
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 4: no responsibilities. Just you, your body, and an endless.
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 9: Stretch of glorious, unfettered time to do whatever you like
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 9: in whenever you like. Death really isn't anything to be
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 9: scared of.
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 4: So, carpe morte! Seize death!
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 9: Today is the first day of the end of your life!
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 4: So, who's with me?
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 2: Well, sod the lot of you, then.
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  Speaker 6: I'm off.
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 4: Have a nice life!
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 3: It was really spaced out in Joan Rivers.
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 2: I had no idea. It was like a 25-minute thing.
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 2: It was actually kind of long, yeah. It wasn't that long. Well,
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 2: longer than some of the others.
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 1: It was about five minutes.
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 2: It was a good five minutes. I think you're almost dead.
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 2: Did I really? I think you might be dead.
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 1: I swear all the paint fumes and the mastic from
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 1: laying the tile is getting to me.
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 2: You might have actually passed away during this episode.
• 1:49:43
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• 1:49:46
  Speaker 6: edited by The Oddity Studios, with the opening music performed
• 1:49:49
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• 1:49:52
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• 1:49:55
  Speaker 4: Talk hard!