Latest / Reformed Thinking / How to Induce our People to Win Souls | Charles Spurgeon
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- 0:00So imagine you step into a leadership role of a struggling
- 0:04organization. Right, like a legacy company or
- 0:06something? Yeah, a legacy company that's
- 0:07been losing market share for years or maybe you know, just
- 0:11the local community group where the attendance is completely
- 0:14dwindled. Sure, your first instinct is
- 0:16likely to call this massive all hands meeting.
- 0:20You plan to stand up there, cast this brilliant, highly energized
- 0:24vision for the future, and you just expect everyone in the room
- 0:27to catch fire with your enthusiasm.
- 0:28Because you assume your passion will be contagious.
- 0:31Precisely. But Charles Haddon Spurgeon, who
- 0:34was one of the most effective leaders of the 19th century,
- 0:37would look at that strategy and tell you that it's a guaranteed
- 0:39recipe for failure. Which is pretty jarring to hear.
- 0:43It is so welcome to reformed thinking.
- 0:45I'm so glad you were joining us. Today we are taking a deep dive
- 0:48into an unvarnished, almost shockingly realistic manual on
- 0:54human nature and organizational leadership.
- 0:56Yeah, we are looking way past the polished biographies of
- 0:59historical figures. You know, the ones where every
- 1:01victory seems grand and every follower seems so noble.
- 1:05Right, we are getting into the raw reality of weeds, friction
- 1:09and, well, sheer exhaustion. And specifically, we are looking
- 1:13at an excerpt from Spurgeon's work called The Soul Winner.
- 1:16We are focusing on the chapter titled How to Induce Our People
- 1:20to Win Souls. Which is such a great title.
- 1:23It really is. And Spurgeon, He doesn't offer a
- 1:25sanitized or romanticized view of ministry or leadership here.
- 1:30He is writing to young leaders who are totally fired up and his
- 1:33very first move is to just lower their expectations to the
- 1:37absolute floor. Just crush them right out of the
- 1:39gate. Basically, yeah, he tells them
- 1:41to anticipate coldness, laziness and active resistance from the
- 1:45very people they are trying to lead.
- 1:47Which is a wild way to teach leadership.
- 1:49It is, but it's rooted in this highly accurate sociology of
- 1:52human behavior and of course, a robust theology of human
- 1:55depravity. So our mission for this deep
- 1:57diet is to investigate how a leader actually takes a
- 2:00disparate, apathetic group of individuals and cultivates them
- 2:04into an active, unified force. Moving from just one person
- 2:08doing all the heavy lifting to building a total ecosystem of
- 2:11action. And that shift really begins
- 2:14with a very specific agricultural metaphor.
- 2:18If you are listening to this and you lead any kind of group, you
- 2:21have likely felt that heavy burden of having to do
- 2:24everything yourself. Oh, absolutely.
- 2:26So Spurgeon contrasts what he calls the single sower with the
- 2:30spiritual farmer. A single sower takes a basket of
- 2:33seed, walks out into the field, and scatters it with their own
- 2:36hands. They do it all.
- 2:38Yeah, if a program needs to be run, they run it.
- 2:40If a conversation needs to happen, they have it.
- 2:43But a spiritual farmer manages a massive acreage.
- 2:47They don't sow every single inch of the land themselves.
- 2:50Right, because they have servants and helpers and
- 2:52laborers. The farmer directs the work,
- 2:54equipping others to do the actual sowing.
- 2:56And making that transition, you know, going from being the
- 2:58single sower to becoming the spiritual farmer, that is
- 3:01arguably the most difficult hurdle in any form of
- 3:04leadership. It's the hurdle of scale and
- 3:06multiplication, really. Spurgeon tells these young
- 3:09leaders that they cannot expect a fully functioning spiritual
- 3:12farm to just appear overnight. He warns them.
- 3:16He says don't expect in your first year the result that is
- 3:20the reward of 20 years of continuous toil in one place.
- 3:24Which makes a lot of sense. Yeah, and he uses this imagery
- 3:27of a new driver taking the reins of a horse carriage.
- 3:30He notes that it's a wonderful blessing if the horses don't
- 3:33know they have a new driver. Meaning things are running
- 3:35smoothly. Yeah, if you inherit an
- 3:37organization that has been well tended for decades, you should
- 3:40count your blessings, right? But then he immediately pivots
- 3:43to the far more likely scenario, which is that you will inherit a
- 3:46ruined or neglected field. A total mess.
- 3:49A total mess. You'll inherit a plot covered
- 3:51with nettles, full of stones, weeds, thorns, all of it.
- 3:55And the biggest mistake a young leader can make in that
- 3:58environment is to act like a veteran.
- 4:01Oh, man. Spurgeon calls it a foolish
- 4:03affectation when a young person tries to speak with the seasoned
- 4:06authority of someone who has been a father among the people
- 4:09for 30 years. I see this exact dynamic play
- 4:12out in the modern corporate world all the time.
- 4:14Oh really? Yeah, think about a junior
- 4:16employee who gets hired at a legacy company.
- 4:19They come in fresh out of Business School, full of the
- 4:21latest management theories, and on day one they try to act like
- 4:25the CEO. Oh, Ray.
- 4:27They expect immediate institutional loyalty.
- 4:30They expect the veterans in the office of people who've been
- 4:32there for 20 years to just fall in line with their grand vision.
- 4:36But they haven't earned it. Exactly.
- 4:38The junior employee hasn't bled with the team.
- 4:41They haven't put in the decades of steady plotting required to
- 4:45build actual trust, so Spurgeon is pointing out that trying to
- 4:49fake seasoned authority just makes you look ridiculous to the
- 4:52people you're trying to lead. You can't demand respect, it has
- 4:55to be accrued. Right.
- 4:56It has to be earned over time. And this touches on a really
- 4:59crucial theological concept regarding Providence and time.
- 5:03God works through means, and one of those means is the slow,
- 5:08deliberate passage of time. Because time is the mechanism
- 5:11that builds trust, improves character.
- 5:13Yes. Spurgeon illustrates this by
- 5:15pointing to John Angel James at Cars Lane Chapel in Birmingham.
- 5:20That specific location was not famous or highly populated
- 5:24before James arrived. He didn't just walk into a mega
- 5:26church. No, not at all.
- 5:28And James didn't find instant success.
- 5:30He just plotted on, steadily preaching the gospel and doing
- 5:33the hard work for years. Eventually, over a long period
- 5:36of consistent faithfulness, he drew a core group of helpers
- 5:40around him. So there's a requirement for
- 5:42immense patience when you commit to working a hard field.
- 5:45Immense patience. But you know, Spurgeon's advice
- 5:48to the eager young leader feels completely counterintuitive to
- 5:51our modern sensibilities. How so?
- 5:53Well, he essentially says that you should anticipate having to
- 5:56do the work entirely by yourself at the beginning.
- 5:59He tells them to expect no assistance at 1st and to just
- 6:01tramp up and down the field alone.
- 6:03Yeah, that's a tough pill to swallow, right?
- 6:05And so I need to ask about the psychological toll of that
- 6:08advice. If you tell a young, zealous
- 6:11leader to expect zero help and to shoulder the entire burden of
- 6:15the organization alone, aren't you guaranteeing intense
- 6:18burnout? That's a fair question.
- 6:20It seems like a recipe for a complete physical and mental
- 6:22crash before A-Team can ever even be formed.
- 6:26It's a very natural concern, but Spurgeon is actually managing
- 6:29expectations to prevent a much more dangerous kind of burnout,
- 6:33which is emotional disillusionment.
- 6:35The fastest way to burnout in leadership is to expect everyone
- 6:38around you to match your white hot intensity, and then you just
- 6:41crash into despair when they fail to do so.
- 6:44Oh wow, yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
- 6:46By telling the young leader to expect no help, Spurgeon is
- 6:49shielding them from the bitterness that destroys so many
- 6:51careers. You tramp up and down the field
- 6:54alone, but you do it while looking to the Lord of the
- 6:57harvest. You aren't relying on the
- 6:59congregation's energy to sustain.
- 7:00You exactly. You are relying on divine
- 7:03provision. It's a protective measure for
- 7:05the leader's soul. That mentality sits in stark
- 7:07opposition to a culture that demands instant results and
- 7:10viral growth. We want our businesses to double
- 7:13in revenue in six months. We want our local churches to
- 7:16overflow with new members immediately.
- 7:19And if that doesn't happen? We assume the strategy is broken
- 7:22and we need to pivot. But Spurgeon addresses this
- 7:25impatience with a striking phrase.
- 7:27He says try and whistle for the wind and see if it will come.
- 7:32Which is such a great visual. Yeah, you can't force a genuine
- 7:36shift in an organization's culture just by whistling for
- 7:39it. You can't manufacture A genuine
- 7:41movement. He reinforces that point by
- 7:43referencing the biblical account of Elijah praying for rain
- 7:47following a massive multi year drought, Elijah goes up to Mount
- 7:51Carmel to pray. He doesn't offer a single prayer
- 7:55and immediately receive a thunderstorm.
- 7:57He prays, and then he sends his servant to look at the sky.
- 7:59And the servant sees absolutely nothing.
- 8:02Elijah repeats this process 7 times.
- 8:04He has to wait for the small cloud to finally appear on the
- 8:07horizon. Spurgeon is teaching that
- 8:09genuine shifts in organizational health don't answer to human
- 8:12timelines. You plot on, you plead on, and
- 8:15in due time the blessing comes. The leader must remain steady
- 8:18while the invisible work is happening.
- 8:20So we have established the need for patients while tramping the
- 8:23field alone, but eventually you want to start turning that
- 8:26neglected field into a functioning farm.
- 8:29You want to ignite a fire in the people around you?
- 8:31Yes, and this brings us to Spurgeon's vivid depiction of
- 8:35trying to motivate a specific, difficult demographic within an
- 8:40organization. He describes the experience of
- 8:43going to the principal Deacon, someone who has been a fixture
- 8:46in the church for decades. The guy who's seen it all.
- 8:49Exactly. The young leader approaches this
- 8:51veteran at a white heat of enthusiasm, ready to change the
- 8:55world. And the Deacon is, quote, cold
- 8:58as steel. Yeah.
- 9:00Spurgeon compares the interaction to dipping a piece
- 9:02of white hot iron into a pail of water.
- 9:04It's a brilliant, highly tactile image.
- 9:07The white hot iron hisses. It loses all its heat and it
- 9:10just turns black. The old Deacon looks at the
- 9:12young zealous leader and says, I've seen others as hot as you.
- 9:15They cool down. You will too.
- 9:17The wet blanket of institutional memory.
- 9:19Perfectly said, but what is crucial to note is that Spurgeon
- 9:22doesn't call this Deacon an evil person.
- 9:25He acknowledges that the Deacon is likely a very good man, but
- 9:28he is old and you cannot put young heads on old shoulders.
- 9:32Right. The Deacon has seen fads come
- 9:33and go, so his default posture is skepticism.
- 9:36Yeah, and then Spurgeon mentions trying to motivate the young
- 9:39people but finds they are backward retiring and tend to
- 9:43fly off at a tangent. They lack focus and discipline.
- 9:46So the leader is faced with the completely unenthusiastic
- 9:50environment. How do you actually start a fire
- 9:53in a room full of damp wood? Well, Spurgeon lays out two
- 9:56distinct methods. Method A is what we might call
- 9:58the top down, macro level approach.
- 10:01You call the entire organization together.
- 10:03You stand at the front, deliver your most passionate speech,
- 10:06cast the vision and plead for everyone to get on board all at
- 10:10once. You ask for a corporate
- 10:11outpouring of energy. And Spurgeon admits that this
- 10:14macro level approach might work. It might be like setting a light
- 10:17to dry fuel, resulting in a sudden widespread awakening
- 10:20similar to the Day of Pentecost. But his pragmatism immediately
- 10:24shines through. He has a massive caveat, warning
- 10:28that absolutely nothing might come of it.
- 10:30The large gathering might end with a whimper rather than a
- 10:33bang. I find his description of that
- 10:35failure absolutely hilarious and deeply relatable.
- 10:39Oh, it's so funny. He says the people will sit
- 10:42there, listen politely to your big passionate speech and then
- 10:46say to themselves it is a very nice meeting and our pastor
- 10:49expects a good deal of us and we all wish he may get it.
- 10:52And then they go home and do absolutely nothing differently.
- 10:55It's the polite applause of total apathy.
- 10:57This reveals A masterful understanding of human
- 11:00sociology. If the macro culture of an
- 11:02organization is dead, calling a macro level meeting won't revive
- 11:06it. The sheer volume of apathy in
- 11:08the room will absorb the leader's speech like a sponge.
- 11:11Because when everyone is responsible, no one is
- 11:13responsible. Yes, because the large group
- 11:15dynamic diffuses accountability. Spurgeon introduces method B.
- 11:20This is the grassroots approach. If you cannot light the entire
- 11:23pile of damp wood at once, you must pull aside one or two
- 11:26specific pieces and deal with them privately.
- 11:28He advises the leader to look for a choice young man or
- 11:32gracious matron who seems slightly more engaged than the
- 11:35rest. You don't announce this
- 11:37selection to the church. You don't make a big public
- 11:40display. You.
- 11:41Keep it quiet. Yeah, you privately invite them
- 11:43to your home for prayer. You gradually increase the
- 11:46number to two or three. You start creating a
- 11:49microculture. Right.
- 11:51This reminds me perfectly of how a tech startup launches a closed
- 11:55beta test. That's an interesting
- 11:57connection. You don't release a brand new,
- 12:00somewhat fragile piece of software to the whole
- 12:03unenthusiastic public. If you do, they will find one
- 12:07bug, decide they hate it, and leave a terrible review.
- 12:10Sure, yeah. Instead, you give the software
- 12:12to a tiny group of super users. These are people you know are
- 12:15highly engaged in forgiving. You let them work out the bugs,
- 12:18you let them catch the vision, and they become the ones who
- 12:20generate the height. They spread the fire to the rest
- 12:23of the market. That analogy fits perfectly.
- 12:25You are building critical mass from the inside out, rather than
- 12:28trying to impose it from the top down.
- 12:30And to illustrate this, Spurgeon uses an analogy that would have
- 12:33been quite shocking to a Victorian audience.
- 12:36He discusses the most effectual way to burn a house down.
- 12:40Casual arson. Very casual, he says.
- 12:42You could pour petroleum down the middle of it and set it on
- 12:45fire, which is a direct historical reference to the
- 12:48radicals in Paris during the Commune.
- 12:50Alternatively, you could light the house at the Four Corners.
- 12:54And he cheekily adds that he likes to burn churches rather
- 12:58than houses because churches don't burn down, they burn up.
- 13:01He really had a way with words. Let's examine a very specific
- 13:05and provocative phrase he uses in this section.
- 13:08He tells these young leaders to turn their small private prayer
- 13:11group into a secret society, a band of celestial Fenians to set
- 13:17the whole church on fire. For context, the Fenians were a
- 13:20real world, radical underground Irish political movement in the
- 13:2419th century. They were revolutionaries.
- 13:26They were subversive. Very subversive.
- 13:28Is Spurgeon actually advocating for a subversive rogue element
- 13:33to operate within the local church?
- 13:35That sounds incredibly dangerous for organizational unity.
- 13:39It sounds like he is telling leaders to form a faction.
- 13:42Well, it's a deliberately provocative term designed for
- 13:45shock value. Spurgeon is trying to wake up
- 13:48his students to the severity of the situation.
- 13:50He isn't advocating for theological rebellion or a
- 13:53malicious division within the church.
- 13:55OK, So what is he advocating for?
- 13:57He is advocating for holy subversion against the dominant
- 14:01culture of apathy. He explicitly warns that if you
- 14:04form the zealous inner circle, the devil will not like it and
- 14:08resistance will arise to try and break up the union.
- 14:10So friction is guaranteed. That friction is exactly what
- 14:13they should expect and even desire.
- 14:15He wants war to the knife between the Church and the
- 14:17world's habits of laziness. The apathy in the Church is the
- 14:20true enemy here. I see.
- 14:22By creating this inner circle of prayerful, zealous people, you
- 14:25are forming A resistance movement against status quo of
- 14:28dead religion. You are intentionally disrupting
- 14:30the piece of the graveyard. The piece of the graveyard that
- 14:34is intense. And he grounds this radical idea
- 14:37beautifully in the biblical imagery of the burning Bush from
- 14:40the Book of Exodus, the boost that burns with fire but is not
- 14:44consumed. He explains that if the fire is
- 14:48merely human adrenaline, it burns up the Bush very quickly.
- 14:52You see these young, zealous people who run so fast at the
- 14:55beginning of their careers that they quickly become like broken,
- 14:58winded horses. It's sad to watch.
- 15:01It is a pitiable sight to watch someone completely exhaust
- 15:04themselves because they are running on their own energy.
- 15:07Zeal required to change an organization has to be sustained
- 15:11by something outside of human effort.
- 15:14And that need for external sustenance brings us directly to
- 15:17the mechanism of how these Celestrophanians keep the fire
- 15:19burning without destroying themselves.
- 15:21How do they maintain that heat week after week?
- 15:24This leads into the Spurgeon's intense focus on the engine room
- 15:27of the church. Which is the midweek prayer
- 15:29meeting. Spurgeon targets this specific
- 15:31gathering as the true business evening of the week.
- 15:34Not the Sunday morning sermon, which is what most people assume
- 15:36is the main event, but the prayer meeting.
- 15:38Yes, and he goes after the lazy ministers in the London suburbs
- 15:42with absolutely no mercy, completely dismantling their
- 15:46approach to the weekly schedule. He paints a very dreary,
- 15:49realistic picture of the typical suburban church.
- 15:52The minister assumes he can't get his congregation to come out
- 15:55for both a prayer meeting and a teaching lecture during the
- 15:58week, so he decides to combine them into one hour.
- 16:01The dreaded combined meeting. Yeah, and Spurgeon mocks this
- 16:04compromise relentlessly. He says the lazy man gives a
- 16:08short, uninspired address, calls it a combined meeting and ends
- 16:12up being neither fish, flesh, fowl nor good red herring.
- 16:15It's a watered down, confused event that achieves nothing.
- 16:19Consequently, the Minister soon gives it up entirely because the
- 16:22people stop attending, correctly assessing that the meeting is
- 16:25useless. The meeting is useless because
- 16:28it has become a passive ritual rather than an active engine.
- 16:31Spurgeon insists on making the prayer meeting highly engaging,
- 16:35calling it the best service between the Sabbath's.
- 16:37Yes, the best service. And here we encounter perhaps
- 16:40the most shocking piece of pastoral advice in the entire
- 16:43text. He addresses the very common
- 16:46problem of people who pray too long in public.
- 16:49Oh, this part is brilliant. He tells the leader, do not
- 16:52hesitate to tell good Mr. Snooks that he shall not pray for five
- 16:56and 20 minutes, earnestly entreat him to cut it short, and
- 17:00if he does not stop him. Stop him right in the middle of
- 17:03it. And Spurgeon then provides an
- 17:05analogy that makes modern sensibilities wince.
- 17:08He compares the act of stopping a long winded prayer to stopping
- 17:11a man from cutting his wife's throat.
- 17:13I need to push back on this, or at least ask for a deep
- 17:16explanation. Go for it.
- 17:17In almost every religious tradition, interrupting someone
- 17:20while they are praying out loud is considered the height of
- 17:23irreverence. It's a sacred cow.
- 17:25When someone closes their eyes and begin speaking to God, the
- 17:29social contract dictates that you just endure it until they
- 17:32say Amen, no matter how long it takes.
- 17:34Even 25 minutes. Exactly how does Spurgeon
- 17:37justify such a seemingly harsh, violent analogy?
- 17:41And how do we reconcile that ruthlessness with his broader
- 17:44reputation for very tender, loving pastoral care?
- 17:48To understand this, we have to look at the mechanics of what
- 17:50Spurgeon believes the Church actually is.
- 17:53The justification becomes clear when you realize he loves the
- 17:56collective church almost as much as he loves his own wife.
- 17:59To Spurgeon, a dull, droning 25 minute public prayer is not an
- 18:05act of genuine piety, it is an act of spiritual murder.
- 18:08Spiritual murder. It mechanically kills the
- 18:10vitality of the room. It causes the minds of the young
- 18:13people to wander. It extinguishes the energy of
- 18:15the celestial Athenians. It quenches the Holy Spirit.
- 18:19Because everyone is just zoning out.
- 18:20Exactly. He views the collective zeal of
- 18:23the congregation as infinitely more precious than the fragile
- 18:26ego of Mr. Snooks. This advice shows a remarkable
- 18:30pastoral spine. He's acting as a protector.
- 18:33Yes, the leader is acting as a protector.
- 18:36You are protecting the flock from the boredom that leads
- 18:38directly to spiritual death. He tells the long winded man to
- 18:42finish his lengthy prayer at home in private.
- 18:45Public prayer must serve the public good, and if it fails to
- 18:48do so, it must be stopped. That is a massive paradigm shift
- 18:52for anyone who leads meetings. You are guarding the energy of
- 18:55the room. Because he views the prayer
- 18:57meeting as the literal source of strength, he demands radical
- 19:01flexibility to make it happen. Radical flexibility is right.
- 19:04He says if the people seem heavy and tired, change the format
- 19:07immediately. Have them sing Moody and Sankey
- 19:09hymns, which were the catchy, upbeat revivalist tunes of his
- 19:13day, to wake them. Up.
- 19:15Just drift them awake. Yeah, and when they learn all
- 19:17those tunes, switch back to the regular, more solemn hymn book.
- 19:20Keep them on their toes. But his radical flexibility goes
- 19:23far beyond just changing the music.
- 19:26It extends to the very structure of the schedule.
- 19:28Oh yeah, He tells his students to abandon predictable time
- 19:32slots if they are not working. Hold a meeting in the country at
- 19:364:30 in the morning or 60 in the morning to accommodate
- 19:40agricultural workers before they go to the fields.
- 19:42Which makes practical sense. Hold a meeting at midnight.
- 19:45Try 1.00 AM, 2.0 AM or three-point AM.
- 19:51I was trying to envision what a modern equivalent of this would
- 19:53look like today. Everything in our corporate and
- 19:57religious life is thoroughly sanitized and locked into
- 20:00predictable calendar invites. Right Sunday at 10 AM, Wednesday
- 20:03at 7:00 PM. It never changes, but Spurgeon
- 20:06says if they won't come to the church building, take the
- 20:08meeting to them. Tell a family you are having a
- 20:11prayer meeting in their parlor. Just invite yourself over.
- 20:14Yeah, and if the wife is worried about the house being messy or
- 20:16the carpet getting dirty, go out into the coach house or stand in
- 20:19the garden. Go trudge down the street with
- 20:2150 people and hold a prayer meeting in the open air.
- 20:23It's relentless. He references the women in
- 20:26America who fought the liquor sellers by literally praying
- 20:30them out of the traffic, kneeling on the sidewalks
- 20:32outside the salons. This approach completely breaks
- 20:36the script of polite contained religion.
- 20:39It's the sheer relentless creativity born out of
- 20:42desperation for spiritual vitality, he says.
- 20:45If we cannot stir the people without doing extraordinary
- 20:48things, in the name of all that is good and great, let us do
- 20:51extraordinary things. The method doesn't matter as
- 20:54much as the outcome. The specific method or time slot
- 20:57is entirely secondary to the ultimate goal.
- 21:00The goal is to get the people praying together right?
- 21:03When we talk about the ordinary means of grace, things like the
- 21:06preaching of the Word, the sacraments, and corporate
- 21:08prayer, we need to understand how they function mechanically.
- 21:12Think of it like setting a broken bone in a medical
- 21:14concept. OK.
- 21:15I like this analogy. A doctor cannot force a bone to
- 21:18heal through sheer willpower or a motivational speech.
- 21:21The healing is a biological process that occurs naturally,
- 21:25provided the conditions are right.
- 21:26So what does the doctor do? The doctor's job is to set the
- 21:29bone in a cast. The cast is the means.
- 21:33It holds everything in the correct position so the body's
- 21:35natural biology can do the work. I see.
- 21:38In a spiritual context, corporate prayer is the cast.
- 21:42It aligns the congregation's posture.
- 21:45It holds them in a state of dependence and expectation,
- 21:48creating the conditions where the Holy Spirit operates.
- 21:52You cannot have a zealous church with a slow coach minister who
- 21:55refuses to apply the cast. A slow coach minister.
- 21:59I love the 19th century Burns. They are the best.
- 22:01That concept of the congregation's posture segues
- 22:04directly into the next phase of our analysis.
- 22:07Once you have this fire burning, once the engine room of prayer
- 22:10is running and the cast is set, what do the people actually do?
- 22:13Right. What's the next step?
- 22:14Spurgeon says the pastor cannot reach everyone alone from the
- 22:17pulpit. The spiritual farmer needs
- 22:19laborers. He calls for a band of what he
- 22:21terms sharp shooters. The sharp shooters.
- 22:25These are individual church members who are trained to pick
- 22:27people out of the crowd. They don't wait for the pastor
- 22:30to make a general appeal. They engage in targeted
- 22:33one-on-one interactions. And Spurgeon calls this practice
- 22:37buttonholing people. Yes, buttonholing.
- 22:40The imagery he uses to describe buttonholing is both hilarious
- 22:43and slightly alarming. He references the biblical story
- 22:47of Absalom, King David's rebellious son.
- 22:49Oh boy. During a battle, Absalom was
- 22:52riding his mule under a great oak tree and his thick hair got
- 22:55caught in the boughs. The mule kept going and Absalom
- 22:57was left hanging there, completely trapped and unable to
- 23:00escape. Just suspended in the tree.
- 23:02Spurgeon looks at that story and says to his congregation it is
- 23:06pretty close work when you hold a friend by a lock of his hair
- 23:09or by his coat button. Absalom did not find it easy to
- 23:12get away. So try to get a close quarters
- 23:15with sinners. To a modern listener, that
- 23:17sounds like a massive violation of personal space.
- 23:19It sounds incredibly aggressive calling a church member a
- 23:22hunting dog who waylays visitors in the aisles.
- 23:26I mean, is there a danger here of treating visitors like
- 23:28targets rather than actual human beings?
- 23:31It conjures images of high pressure sales tactics where the
- 23:34customer feels cornered and manipulated.
- 23:37That is a very valid concern for today's context where high
- 23:40pressure tactics are widely distrusted.
- 23:44However, we have to look at how Spurgeon qualifies the
- 23:47instruction immediately after the Absalom reference.
- 23:50What did he say? He says, talk gently to them
- 23:53till you have whispered them into the Kingdom of heaven.
- 23:56Ah, whispered them. Right.
- 23:58The intent isn't a loud, aggressive sales pitch.
- 24:01The intent is highly intentional, deeply personal
- 24:04pastoral care that is distributed among the
- 24:07congregation. He wants members who ensure no
- 24:10one leaves the building without a personal invitation to know
- 24:13Christ. He wants to turn the Church into
- 24:15an act of Salvation Army rather than a passive audience.
- 24:19And when the congregation is acting like that, you know,
- 24:21handling the ground game and the personal interactions, the role
- 24:24of the preacher completely changes.
- 24:25It shifts. Dramatically, he confrats what
- 24:27he calls flummery with the clear orders of a commander in chief.
- 24:31Flummery refers to fine, flashy Thunder and lightning sermons
- 24:36designed to show off the speaker's intellect.
- 24:38All style, no substance. Right.
- 24:40Spurgeon points out that people who are actually out there
- 24:43working in the harvest field do not want Thunder and lightning.
- 24:46They don't need a theatrical performance.
- 24:48They want to rest under a tree, wipe the sweat from their
- 24:50foreheads, get clear instructions and get back to
- 24:53work. They want practical direction.
- 24:55Exactly. The sermon should be short,
- 24:57sweet, and direct. There are the enemy.
- 24:59Do not let me know where they are tomorrow.
- 25:01This shift in the preacher's role relies entirely on one of
- 25:05the most vital concepts in the text, the atmosphere of do.
- 25:09Do like morning condensation. Yes, Spurgeon asserts that we
- 25:14are sure to get the blessing we are seeking when the whole
- 25:16atmosphere of the room is favorable to soul winning.
- 25:20To explain this mechanically, he shares a story about an
- 25:22Irishman's theory on agricultural irrigation.
- 25:25OK, the Irishman observed that watering plants while the sun is
- 25:29shining brightly is not very effective and might even scorch
- 25:32the leaves, turning them yellow and killing the plant.
- 25:35Because the sun just bakes the water right on the leaves.
- 25:38Precisely. But when it rains, the
- 25:40environment changes. There are clouds blocking the
- 25:43sun, the sky is shaded, the humidity rises, the general
- 25:47feeling of everything is damp all around.
- 25:50The atmosphere is prime to receive the moisture.
- 25:53Any experienced gardener knows you water in the evening when
- 25:56the sun is off the plants and the air is cooler.
- 25:59The favorable influence in the atmosphere allows the moisture
- 26:02to actually penetrate the soil and benefit the root system.
- 26:06That makes total sense biologically.
- 26:08And Spurgeon applies this biological reality directly to
- 26:11spiritual things. When a minister preaches in a
- 26:14room full of people who have been praying for hours, people
- 26:17who are deeply expecting God to move, that room is full of
- 26:20spiritual dew. He.
- 26:21Compares it to Mount Gilboa, which David cursed to have no
- 26:25dew or reign. Contrasting it with the day of
- 26:27Pentecost which possessed completely saturated, highly
- 26:31charged spiritual atmosphere. I was thinking about this
- 26:34concept of do and how to frame it outside of agriculture to
- 26:38really grasp the mechanics of it.
- 26:39Think about the science of acoustics.
- 26:41OK, let's hear. It if you take a master
- 26:43violinist and have them play a beautiful, complex solo in a
- 26:47small room lined with sound absorbing foam, the performance
- 26:51falls flat. It sounds dead and muted.
- 26:54Because there's no reverberation.
- 26:56Right. The environment actively works
- 26:58against the music, absorbing the vibrations before they can reach
- 27:01the listener's ear. But if you take that same
- 27:04violinist playing the exact same notes on the exact same
- 27:07instrument and put them in a massive ancient stone cathedral,
- 27:11the sound resonates. It fills the whole space.
- 27:14It swells. It carries to the very back row
- 27:17the congregation's expectation. They're prayerful readiness.
- 27:20Is that stone cathedral? That's a fantastic way to put
- 27:23it. Spurgeon says he often feels no
- 27:25credit is due to him when he preaches because he steps into a
- 27:29room where people are sitting with their mouths open,
- 27:31practically demanding a blessing.
- 27:33He describes the sensation by saying when a man is put on a
- 27:35horse that runs away with him, he must ride.
- 27:38The momentum of the praying congregation carries the
- 27:41preacher along. That's incredible.
- 27:43We see the cooperative work between the Holy Spirit and the
- 27:45local church here. You cannot force conversions.
- 27:48Regeneration is solely an act of God.
- 27:51But God uses the atmosphere primed by corporate prayer as
- 27:55the ordinary environment for that miracle to occur.
- 27:58Right, the environment facilitates the work.
- 28:01Spurgeon explicitly mentions the Apostle Peter sermon at
- 28:04Pentecost. It was a great plain sermon, but
- 28:07the massive number of conversions weren't the result
- 28:10of the words alone. The disciples had been praying
- 28:13together in one place for days. The atmosphere was incredibly
- 28:17damp. The heavenly electricity was
- 28:19concentrated at that specific spot.
- 28:21Yes, and because that atmosphere is so crucial, he expects the
- 28:25church members to share in a divine dissatisfaction if the
- 28:28dew is ever missing. He mentions a specific Deacon
- 28:31who complained to him after a communion service.
- 28:33Oh, this is a great story they. 'D only taken in 14 new members
- 28:37that month and the Deacon looked at him and said, Governor, this
- 28:39won't pay. Governor, this won't pay.
- 28:41They were used to seeing 40 or 50 new members a month.
- 28:45Now, many modern pastors would be deeply offended by that
- 28:48comment, thinking the Deacon was being ungrateful for the 14.
- 28:51Most would be. But Spurgeon loved it.
- 28:53He praised that holy discontent. That specific environment of
- 28:57high expectation is what creates the hunting dogs.
- 29:00He mentions a friend he explicitly calls his hunting
- 29:03dog, a man who wailies inquirers and brings them directly to the
- 29:06pastor for counseling. This man keeps a Bible ready
- 29:10with targeted texts pasted inside the cover in bold type.
- 29:14He has texts like the Son of Man is come to seek and to save that
- 29:18which was lost or him that cometh to me.
- 29:21I will in no wise cast out ready at a moment's notice.
- 29:24Just locked and loaded. Having those texts physically
- 29:26prepared shows that evangelism is both a sovereign divine act
- 29:29and a highly intentional human interaction.
- 29:32Spurgeon quotes an observer who evaluated a series of special
- 29:35services and noted that the successful evangelist possessed
- 29:38a faculty for the precipitation of decision.
- 29:41Precipitation of decision. That's a weighty phrase.
- 29:44They didn't just present information, they helped bring
- 29:47the internal wrestling to a head.
- 29:49The atmosphere of do makes the precipitation possible, but the
- 29:53hunting dogs are the human instruments walking people
- 29:57across the finish line. Let's bring this back to reality
- 29:59for a second. We have painted this beautiful,
- 30:02highly functioning picture of the stone cathedral acoustics,
- 30:06the spiritual farm operating under heavy dew, and the hunting
- 30:09dogs successfully precipitating decisions.
- 30:12The ideal scenario. But Spurgeon is a realist and he
- 30:16knows that is not where most leaders start, and it is
- 30:19certainly not what every environment looks like.
- 30:22This takes us to the final major theme of our discussion, dealing
- 30:26with hostile fields, tears and pulling the horse.
- 30:28This is where the rubber meets the road.
- 30:31He shares this incredibly tense, uncomfortable anecdote about
- 30:35visiting a church that clearly did not want him there.
- 30:37The church authorities had only invited him because of the
- 30:40financial benefit of the large crowds his name would draw.
- 30:43The church members themselves didn't expect a spiritual
- 30:45blessing and consequently they didn't receive 1.
- 30:48Only the visitors benefited. Right.
- 30:50Only the visitors from other churches benefited from the
- 30:53sermon. After the service concluded,
- 30:55Spurgeon walks into the vestry and finds the two deacons of the
- 30:58church standing on opposite sides of the mantelpiece.
- 31:01That is a brilliant visual representation of division.
- 31:06They are standing as far apart from each other as the room will
- 31:09physically allow. It's so petty.
- 31:11Spurgeon looks at the situation, assesses the atmosphere and asks
- 31:15them. The church does not prosper,
- 31:17does it? They both say no, and Spurgeon,
- 31:21possessing absolutely no filter, looks at them and says I should
- 31:25not think it would with such deacons.
- 31:27It is stunning bluntness just right to their faces.
- 31:29The deacons are offended and ask if he knows anything specific
- 31:33against their character. He replies no, but I do not know
- 31:36anything in your favor. Because he couldn't reach the
- 31:38whole church through his sermon due to the dead atmosphere, he
- 31:41button holed the two leaders right there in the vestry.
- 31:43And what was the result of that direct confrontation?
- 31:46One Deacon left the church in anger and the other was
- 31:49irritated in the right way, stayed, and eventually helped
- 31:52improve the church. Following that story, Spurgeon
- 31:55gives us an analogy that perfectly captures the
- 31:57frustration of leadership. He says dealing with this kind
- 32:00of internal resistance is hard enough under normal
- 32:02circumstances. It's like rowing a boat against
- 32:05the wind in the tide. You are expending massive energy
- 32:08just to stay in one place. But it's infinitely worse if you
- 32:11have a horse on the bank pulling a rope, dragging your boat the
- 32:14opposite way. You are fighting the elements
- 32:17and active sabotage simultaneously.
- 32:19And his advice for this situation?
- 32:21Work away all the harder and pull the horse into the water.
- 32:24Pull the horse into the water. It's a remarkable, highly
- 32:27aggressive strategy for dealing with entrenched institutional
- 32:31opposition. If you are listening to this and
- 32:34you manage A-Team, maybe you are the head of department at a
- 32:37massive corporation. You might be sweating a bit.
- 32:41You're thinking, practically speaking, how do you do that?
- 32:44How do you pull a hostile leader, a horse on the bank into
- 32:48the water without capsizing your own boat in the process?
- 32:51Isn't there a huge risk of splitting the congregation,
- 32:54destroying the team's morale, or triggering a massive HR crisis?
- 32:59Let's look at the mechanics of this strategy to understand why
- 33:01it works. Spurgeon's approach is not to
- 33:04drop the oars, get out of the boat and go fight the horse on
- 33:07the bank. Oh, so you don't engage
- 33:09directly? No.
- 33:10If you fight a toxic leader directly, you validate their
- 33:13influence. You turn the situation into A2
- 33:16sided debate, elevating them to the status of a peer in the eyes
- 33:20of the organization. Which is exactly what they want.
- 33:23Exactly his strategy is to row harder in the direction of truth
- 33:27and vitality. You overwhelm the resistance
- 33:30with positive momentum. He notes that it's actually
- 33:33preferable to work on the borders of the infernal lake,
- 33:36working with the worst, most acknowledged sinners in society,
- 33:39than to deal with dead professing Christians inside the
- 33:42church. He refers to these toxic
- 33:44insiders as tears. Tears.
- 33:46Yes. That is a direct reference to
- 33:48the parable of Jesus, where an enemy sews weeds or tares among
- 33:52the wheat in a field. In the parable, the master
- 33:55servants ask if they should pull up the weeds.
- 33:57And the master says no. Right, the master says no, do
- 34:00not uproot the tares, lest you accidentally uproot the healthy
- 34:03wheat with them. You have to let them grow
- 34:05together until the harvest. It's about patience again.
- 34:08Spurgeon plies this agricultural parable directly to toxic church
- 34:12culture. He says you have people in your
- 34:15organization with a name to live, but they are actually
- 34:18dead. They exert A baneful,
- 34:20suffocating influence on everything around them.
- 34:22But we are largely powerless to cure the evil directly.
- 34:25Because we can't possess perfect omniscience to know exactly who
- 34:30is a tear and who is just struggling, so we can't just
- 34:32kick everyone out. Right.
- 34:33Given that limitation, what is his counterintuitive strategy?
- 34:37You water the wheat. Wagger the wheat.
- 34:38Rather than engaging in endless church discipline, constant
- 34:41arguments, or political maneuvering to pull up the
- 34:43tears, you intentionally ignore the tears and pour all your
- 34:46resources, your best preaching, and your pastoral care into the
- 34:50healthy members. You focus entirely on the
- 34:52celestial Athenians, yes. You generate so much spiritual
- 34:56heat and vitality within that inner circle that the overall
- 35:00environment shifts. He literally says that he has
- 35:03known ungodly men who have had the place made so hot for them
- 35:06that they have been glad to clear right out of the church.
- 35:09They just leave on their own. They walk away complaining,
- 35:11saying the preaching is too strong for us and these people
- 35:14are too strict to suit us. And Spurgeon's reaction to
- 35:17losing members? He says, what a blessing.
- 35:21We didn't drive them away by force or legislation.
- 35:24The plain truth drove them away. Let them go and pray for them
- 35:29from a distance. It reveals A robust, unshakable
- 35:32confidence in the truth. It really does.
- 35:35To understand why watering the wheat works, we have to look at
- 35:38the theological distinction between the visible church and
- 35:41the invisible church. The visible church, the people
- 35:44sitting in the pews on a Sunday morning, will always contain a
- 35:47mixture of true believers and hypocrites.
- 35:51The leader's job is not to play God, possessing perfect
- 35:53omniscience and purge the membership roles with absolute
- 35:57precision. Because you'll inevitably pull
- 35:59up the weed by mistake. Precisely the leader's job is to
- 36:02faithfully administer the means of grace, preaching the Word and
- 36:06praying fervently until the tree believers are so nourished and
- 36:10active that the hypocrites find the atmosphere socially and
- 36:13spiritually unbearable. So you don't capsize your boat
- 36:17fighting the horse on the bank. No, you just row so faithfully
- 36:20and build so much momentum that the rope eventually snaps or the
- 36:24horse gets dragged into the water.
- 36:26The environment itself does the sorting.
- 36:28That is such a strong synthesis of this entire excerpt, and it
- 36:31brings us to a clear conclusion. As we wrap U this Dee dive,
- 36:36let's look at the massive paradigm shift we have
- 36:38investigated today. It's a lot to take in.
- 36:40Spurgeon completely dismantles the modern celebritydriven idea
- 36:44of the solitary hero holding a microphone.
- 36:46The goal of a true leader is never to be the single sower
- 36:49doing all the work forever. The goal is to become the
- 36:52patient spiritual farmer. Right.
- 36:54It requires understanding the sociology of your group well
- 36:56enough to know when macro meetings will fail and when you
- 36:59need to launch a secret Society of celestial Finian to spark a
- 37:02fire from the inside out. And it requires the ruthless,
- 37:06unapologetic defense of corporate prayer.
- 37:09Even if it means interrupting Mr. Snooks so his 25 minute
- 37:13drone doesn't kill the energy of the room.
- 37:14It involves cultivating the sharp shooters and the hunting
- 37:17dogs, the everyday members who are armed with scripture and
- 37:20ready to do the close quarters work of bringing people across
- 37:23the finish line. It demands an understanding of
- 37:26the spiritual do, recognizing that the atmosphere is primed by
- 37:31collective expectation. And finally, it requires the
- 37:34steady, confident strategy of watering the wheat until the
- 37:38tears are choked out by the sheer heat of the environment.
- 37:41If you are listening to this right now, these principles
- 37:44apply directly to whatever field you are currently tramping.
- 37:47Whether you are walking into a broken corporate culture, trying
- 37:50to build a new team, trying to set a different tone in your
- 37:53family dynamic, or seeking to wake up a sleepy local
- 37:56congregation, the mechanics hold true.
- 37:59Cultivating that atmosphere of dew requires collective
- 38:01expectation. You cannot force the rain to
- 38:04fall on your own timeline, but you can gather the people, get
- 38:08the umbrellas ready, and look at the sky together.
- 38:10And you must possess the patients to let time do what's
- 38:13required work. The harvest of 20 years cannot
- 38:16be reaped in the first year. So.
- 38:18True, you must be willing to tramp the field alone at first,
- 38:21shielding yourself from disillusionment by trusting the
- 38:24Lord of the Harvest to sustain you when the people around you
- 38:27will not. Which leaves us with a final
- 38:30thought to chew on as we close. We started this deep dive
- 38:34talking about Spurgeon's striking realism.
- 38:37His absolute refusal give us a sanitized, pristine view of the
- 38:41people we work with. He tells it like it is.
- 38:43We so often assume that the biggest threat to our growth,
- 38:47our success or our spiritual vitality is the hostile secular
- 38:51world outside our doors. We think the enemy is always out
- 38:54there actively fighting against us.
- 38:56Sure, that's the default assumption.
- 38:58But what if Spurgeon is right? What if the most dangerous
- 39:01obstacle to your organization's success is actually the cold,
- 39:05polite apathy sitting right next to you in the Pew, or across
- 39:08from you in the boardroom? That's a heavy thought.
- 39:10And more pressingly, if you look at your own habits, your own
- 39:14level of zeal, and your own willingness to pray, how can you
- 39:18be absolutely certain you weren't the horse on the bank
- 39:21pulling the rope the wrong? Way Ouch.
- 39:23Yeah.