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NBA Draft Preview: Who will go in the Top 5? · NY's Sports Loud Mouth (VIDEO)

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We're now talking to Golden State Warriors play by play
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broadcaster, our friend Tim Roy. Tim, what's up, buddy?
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Not much just enjoying the offseason, you know and and got
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to watch a great finals that was really good basketball, high
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level stuff and now just getting ready for the draft.
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The Warriors don't have a first round pick.
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They have a second round pick, but you never know on draft
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night, you know, it could be, it could be a deal going on during
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the draft. And and so you I always be ready
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for that. But just at this point, you
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know, now after the draft, it's some summer league and free
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agency. And then you get some time in
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August to kind of really rest. And then back at the end of
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September, you just get going again.
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It's, you know, the NBA has been really good about keep staying,
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keeping itself in the news all year long.
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They really do a good job of that.
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It's not the NBA, it's the LJ LeBron James Association.
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I'm going to help you out on this all show for everybody out
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there that doesn't understand, it's the LJA LeBron James
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Association. Thank you, Adam Silver.
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But nevertheless, a lot to get into with the Golden State
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Warriors And you're right, it's very Nick like as they don't
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have a first round draft pick. We all know the Knicks as Leon
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Rose hasn't had a first round draft pick since 1970.
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I'm just kidding, but the New York Knicks don't really draft
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in a first round either with Leon Rose.
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Nevertheless, they've gotten good second round draft picks
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over the years. But no, I, I look at Golden
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State right now. Jimmy Buckets looked old.
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I, I, I, you gave him an extension before the seasons
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end. You have Steph Curry coming
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back. What is he 3637 years old?
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He's getting up there. And there you have Draymond
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Green that's been more worried about his podcast than his game
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of basketball. What out there?
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What is out there? And Steve Kerr, he could be
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looking, you have one foot out right now.
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He could be looking at a, a broadcasting job in the very
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near future. What is there to look forward to
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Golden State Warriors basketball moving forward.
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You know more than anybody. Well, they played really, really
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well after Jimmy got on board. And they're, you know, at the
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end when Steph got hurt, it kind of fell apart.
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Jimmy got hurt, then Steph got hurt.
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And so it kind of, you know, evaporated at that point.
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But before that, in the last, you know, month and a half, two
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months and a half of the season, they were really good.
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And so I think they're trying to fill in some holes.
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I think they'd like to get some more shooting, a little more
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length on the perimeter. They're limited and how they can
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do it, so they're going to have to be creative.
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But I think with the Jimmy Butler deal, Mike Dunleavy
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showed he can be a very creative GM.
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He did a really nice job before the season started.
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He acquired all these, you know, contracts, Kyle Anderson, D
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Anthony Melton, all these guys. And they were all movable
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pieces. So by moving Melton after he got
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hurt, then you get shorter, you can move shorter, and he gotten
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something else in the Butler trade.
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So I think they've shown that they can be very creative.
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They have some holes to fill and they have some young players
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that have to take a step forward next year.
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So Steph Curry, obviously, I like I was talking about the
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longevity aspect of it. He's mostly had minor injuries
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in his true, not as much as like the big ones, like we've seen
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all these Achilles injuries now, but like going forward with him
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especially being the focal point of this offense.
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Like how do you think the Warriors have to manage it and
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how do you think he has to fit with these younger players?
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Yeah, I think, you know, Steph, despite his age, still has what
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we call gravity. You know, when he cuts to the
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other side, you know, about two bodies go with him.
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OK. What?
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What they need is to find guys on the other side of the floor
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who can consistently knock down some shots.
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That's how you use his gravity against the other team.
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I think Steph is one of these guys that he's, once he found
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out that if he got his body right, the ankle injuries would
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go away and, and all the, you know, the problems that he had
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right the start of his career went away.
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He has been dedicated to keeping himself in great shape.
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And all the players, I think most of them around the league
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are doing that. And that's why we're seeing guys
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play into the late 30s. When I was a kid, if you were 37
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in the NBA, you had better been 7 feet tall because if you were,
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you were not, you were not playing at that point.
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But now the conditioning, the nutrition, everything is so much
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better that these guys are playing longer and longer.
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So yes, the Warriors big three, they're old.
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They're not they're not young players anymore.
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But there still can be affected players if you can keep their
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minutes down. And so I think that's the kind
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of Micks they're going to look at.
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Brandon Pojemski has to, I think has to take a step forward next
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year for the Warriors. Moses Moody has to be a little
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bit better. They they, there is a situation
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now with Jonathan Kaminga, whether or not he's going to
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stay and what kind of offer he gets as a restricted free agent.
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And so, so I think there's there's a lot of pieces they
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have, they just got to find a couple more to make it all work.
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Yeah, what that, that was my question too.
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Nice, nice segue. Make me look good.
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You see it every day and you're around them and cover it.
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Like what? What do you think those couple
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pieces are and and how do you think the best way to go about
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getting the ones? I think a three and D wing would
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be good. You know, a guy that can defend
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a little bit and knock down a three.
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You know, the there's a lot of guys that say they're three and
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D wings. But I think if they can find a
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guy like that, they need to get a little bit bigger on the wing
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wing side and probably, you know, find a center who can
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stretch the floor a little bit. They have this rookie out, a kid
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out of BC from from Holland, the Quinton Post, who showed some
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pretty good stuff during the regular season.
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I don't know if he's ready to be a full time starter just yet.
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Probably has to get a little bit bigger, a little bit stronger,
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learn how to use his leverage better.
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But that those are the kind of needs I see.
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A three and D wing, a big that can stretch the floor a little
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bit like Miles Turner does for Indiana, what check does for
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Oklahoma City. A guy that can knock down one of
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those shots, it can bring a big away from the basket.
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So if the other guys can then get to the basket without
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worrying about having their shot smack back in their face for
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having to shoot a quicker than they want to because the big guy
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is there. We are talking to Golden State
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Warriors play by play broadcaster Tim Roy.
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Tim, this Achilles injury has been really effective over the
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last, I would say 10 years, actually 15 years.
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If you go back of the Golden State, where is Klay Thompson?
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He tore his Achilles, He wasn't the same player.
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We go back to Kobe Bryant. When Kobe Bryant tore his
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Achilles, he wasn't the same player.
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Now you're looking throughout the NBA Finals this year, he got
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2 superstar players, 2 great players, and Jason Tatum, he
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went down towards Achilles. He could, he might not be the
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same player. And then Tyrese Halliburton,
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he's young, but he might not be the same player.
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What do you think the LJA needs to do to help or secure these
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players so they don't have these bad injuries?
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Well, first of all, basketball is a sport that's, you know, the
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human body is not designed to have that much stress on your
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ankles, your knees and and, and to take the pounding that they
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do. I'm not so sure.
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I'm not really a doctor kind of guy, but so I don't know if
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there's a link between them all, but I'll give you an example.
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Kevin Durant, Elton Brand, both guys for their Achilles, what
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they do, they change their game a little bit.
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You know, Elton Brand hung out the free throw line.
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He played for over 10 years in the league making foul line
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jumpers. Kevin Durant's a mid range guy.
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I think that's what maybe a guy like Tatum will have to look at.
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Maybe Halliburton doesn't go the basket as much as he did before.
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You know, and you know, the the medical side is so much better
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than it used to be. I think these guys can't come
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back and be effective players, but but again, you may have to
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look at your game and kind of adjust it a little bit to get
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the kind of longevity that you want and to be an effective
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player. But I think with with Brand and
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with KD, I think they both showed that that you can make
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that adjustment and still be a pretty good player in the
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league. So the obviously the debate has
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been for years with load management and now we've seen a
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lot of cuz of these major injuries.
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I think we were saying like the Achilles injuries doubled I
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think from last year for how many there were total.
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And there was also this this argument after OK FTC won the
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championship, that should they shorten the NBA season to
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prevent these injuries. What are your thoughts of that?
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Well, I, I think here's the, the, I think, I think in, in
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theory, it's a really good idea. In reality, it's, it's never
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going to happen because the owners need, need those dates,
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you know, to make money. And the players, if you have
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less games, they're going to get paid less.
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So I don't think anybody's going to kick back any money on either
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side. So I don't think it's ever going
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to happen. I think there's a way to make
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the schedule a little bit easier and I think they've tried to do
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that. We see these things now where
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teams will go to a city and instead of in your own
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conference, instead of playing one game and moving on to the
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next city, they stay over and play 2 games.
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Guys get better rest that way. It's kind of like a baseball
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series. You go in, you can actually
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unpack. You know, in the NBA you don't
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unpack, just lay your bag down. It's just like, okay, but you
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know, you can unpack if you're going to be there like a playoff
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series or whatever. And so I think it's guys aren't
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under the stress and the, you know, lack of sleep that they
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get in the regular season. I think, I think maybe adding a
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week to so the duration of the season might help just to spread
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the games out a little bit more. And I, I think there are ways to
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do it, but I really don't think in reality you'll ever see a
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shortened season. They don't want to lose that TV
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money and that's how they're able to pay these guys.
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In theory. I'm surprised the NFL has done
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it to the extra game. But then you've seen kind of
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what this series did and it was the most watched Game 7 or last
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game of the series in six years. Do you do you see it trending
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up? Because as we've seen the
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numbers, we've seen the viewability become more so than
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it has been. And do you think that's due to
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because these younger athletes and the younger guys and the
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style of what they do brings a cool factor to the younger
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generation that that wants to play this game instead of, you
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know, the roughnecks and dudes get in clothesline like by lamb
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beer and it just a different game.
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Do you think that's helped viewership?
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Because I know sports are trying to get younger to get that
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younger crowd. You're always going to have
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those older guys, but do you see that from your guys viewership
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in in more ways than one? Yeah, and I think also too, the
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NBA has been really good at identifying trends in in the
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culture. So every NBA team now has a
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group of five or six young people that do nothing but
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social media. They go to a game, every guy
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gets off that bus that pictures going up somewhere, TikTok,
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Instagram. So they're now the players are
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making it so they're fashion statements coming off the bus,
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you know, I mean, and, and you. Call Tim, you call some of those
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fashion statements. Well, I'm, I'm saying, I'm not
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saying sure what kind of statement it is, but it is a
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statement. You know, it's like, if that's
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the look they were going for, they nailed it.
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But the no, but they kind of identify where the trends are
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and, and to appeal to younger people.
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So I think they do a good job of that And, and in turn, they
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create these persona around these players that's attractive
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to young people. Basketball has the advantage to
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where it's a, you know, it's a, it's about a 2 hour game, you
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know, and I think with for a lot of the younger kids, that's a
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big deal. And I think that's why baseball
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put in the clocks because they want to speed the game up and
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they want to get kids to talk a little bit about baseball again.
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You know, when my son was a teenager, none of his friends
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would come over and talk about the Giants or the A's or what
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was going on in baseball. And I found that really weird
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because when I was a kid, that's what we talked about in the
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summertime, you know, we look for the averages and eras.
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And so, and I asked Zach about that and says, dad, kids aren't
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watching because it's too long. And that was back when you like
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if you were watching the Red Sox Yankee game, it's a four hour
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affair. And you know, there's 25
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pitching changes and meetings. And so I think baseball has done
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a good job of that and the NBA has that built in.
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So they they identify trends. They got a built in thing, they
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identify with young players. And I I think you're right.
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And the other part about this, you know, like we're on this
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show right now. It's streaming and I think the,
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the ability for kids to watch games on their phones or on
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their tablets, I think that's huge because a lot of kids, you
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know, especially teenagers, they may not want to go and sit down
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next to dad and watch the game. You know, they want to be out
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with their friends, but they can catch up with the game on their
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on their phone. And I think that's why I think
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you're seeing a lot of the listenership coming, coming up,
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because there's more options for young people to watch, but they
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don't have to sit down in their home and and watch it that way.
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Tim, you've been watching the game a long, long time.
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You've been a part of the LJA for a long, long time.
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You look at where the LJA has gone over the years, from the
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80s to the Celtics and the the Magic Lakers to the 90s, where
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the tail end of the Pistons dynasty went from obviously
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Elijah Wan to Michael Jordan's dominance.
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And then you look at the Lakers and you know the the back end of
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it. And then you look at Steph Curry
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and the Golden State Warriors and a lot of people, a lot of
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young people, all the dominance of the Golden State Warriors
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over the years and the championships.
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And Steph's won four. If he wins 5, you can compare
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him to the Jordans and and all the greats.
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A lot of people put Steph Curry, you know, out there as a top ten
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player. I do not look at him as a top
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ten player. There's a lot of reasons why not
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because he's not a great shooter.
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I think he's the greatest shooter to ever play in the NBA.
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He's brought a different value to the NBA and the youngsters
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that believe, hey, I could be 6 three and Chuck up threes and be
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like Steph Curry. You look at the league right
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now, you look at, you know, you're a Samaritan.
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You understand the way the NBA has gone over the years.
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Do you put Steph Curry in the top 10?
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Because I don't. I put him in the top 25.
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Talking now or you talking all? Time all time, all time, all
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time, all time. Do you put Steph Curry in the
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top 10? Yeah, I think he's in the
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discussion. I'll tell you why.
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There are very few players come in and change the way the game
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is played. Will Chamberlain change the way
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the game was played around the basket.
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Bill Russell was part of that as well.
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And Bill Russell is the probably the best winner we've ever seen
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in American sport. He just won everything.
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And so, you know, Magic and Bird changed the NBA, Steph Curry
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changed the way the NBA looked at the three-point shot and in
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turn changed the way the game is played.
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Now you have everybody spread out.
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You have then there's a lot more attention to not just the
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shooting part of it, but the ball handling part of it as
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well. Steph generates a lot of offense
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via his ball handling, whether it be for himself or for
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somebody else. And so when you take that into
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effect, I think you have to look at him as a top ten player
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because he basically put his stamp on the NBA and it makes
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that now he's not the most fiscally imposing player.
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And I get that argument a lot from people.
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But I think, you know, here's the other part about stuff and
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you mentioned about how, you know, he's only 6 three and kids
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look at him and say, well, I could maybe be like that.
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And like Jabba pointed out, you know, he's changed it from not
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the the wrestling matches, you know, Anthony Mason and whoever
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on the block trying to kill each.
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Other at night New York Knicks players.
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Thank you. Thank you, Tim.
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Something to be happy about. Here's a.
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Wrestlers. A quick, quick aside, Anthony.
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Mason did it. We used to get.
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When if you lost and back when I was starting with the Warriors
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of first a decade and a half, we weren't winning very much.
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We would get a player from the other team as our postgame
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guest. Anthony Mason came by one night
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and was my postgame guest and never looked at me.
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Sat down. The chair had turned the chair.
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So he's looking out onto the court.
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I'm like 2 feet away from him and he never turned to look at
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me. He did the interview, but I we
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never made eye contact. But anyway, so I think what
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Steph is that, you know, when I go to a game on the road, the
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older brother, older sister, mom and dad, they've got all the
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home team Garbon, right? But when their their kids or
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their younger siblings walk in, they got a Curry jersey on
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because he has inspired a lot of kids to to pick up the game and
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learn how to play the game. And I'm going to be interested
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to see in the next generation, you know, just how many kids
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come in with his kind of skill set because of the fact that he
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he has put his imprint on the game the way he has.
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So we were talking at the beginning of the interview about
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the Warriors players being very outspoken.
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You also played against one that's been very outspoken
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throughout the playoffs. That's Anthony Edwards throwing
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his teammates under the bus for only taking thirteen shots, that
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he's comparing himself to Paul Pierce and all these other guys.
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That's the truth during the Olympics.
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What are your thoughts to kind of maybe this newer?
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Generations hold on. He didn't compare himself.
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He just said he was the truth. And that all started with Obama
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there and Joel Embiid. First of all, if I was Obama,
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I'm not asking Joel Embiid what he thinks about Anthony Edwards.
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Because Joel Embiid needs to shut his mouth and keep his two
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cents to himself. Because this is the same guy
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that went I should be an MVP and then the next year gets the MVP
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because the league just felt desperately sorry for the idiot.
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So where I was getting it because I've always made the, it
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was like the LeBron generation. That was the ones that are
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usually having these outspoken statements, but we're not seeing
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as he's much with the younger superstars, except probably
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besides Anthony Edwards. So what are your thoughts to his
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comments? You know, I, I think Anthony
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Edwards is kind of growing into his NBA skin.
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I don't think he's a bad guy at all.
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I think he's a really, really good guy.
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And I think he plays the game really, really hard and, and
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he's, he's a star on the rise, But I think he's kind of
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maturing into the the player he's going to be for the balance
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of his career. And so I don't have a problem
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with his comments And and you know, I think every now and
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then. You know, maybe a, a wake up
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call to your team mates isn't such a, you know, a bad idea.
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I mean, you know, sometimes you, you have to, you know, point out
20:10
to the, the team that, hey, you know, when, when we need a
20:13
bucket, we need to get the ball. This guy, you know, and so I
20:17
think I think he's going to be a, a, a future, maybe an MVP
20:21
type guy. And I, I think if, if I'm in
20:24
Minnesota, I'm thrilled because he's going to keep them in
20:26
contention for years to come. So yeah, talking about this
20:30
younger generation and you covered this game for so long
20:34
and you've seen a few guys that have been pretty good.
20:37
Aside from your team, who is your favorite person you have
20:41
ever covered? Wow, aside from my team.
20:46
Yeah, because that's kind of cheating.
20:48
Yeah, it is kind of cheating. Steph and Steve Kerr are by far.
20:52
They're the leaders in the clubhouse.
20:55
They make my job so much easier. But I would say, let me think, I
20:58
would say looking around, Steve Nash was a really cool dude.
21:04
He was really a really nice guy. He was one going back years ago,
21:13
Kevin Johnson who played for the Phoenix Suns, really good guy.
21:17
He's he's not just a good guy, you know, for his basketball and
21:21
she was a good guy off the floor.
21:22
You know, he ended up being married Sacramento.
21:25
He started a school there for kids that needed help.
21:28
So those are those are two guys I would think of right off the
21:31
top there. There been so many people I've
21:34
run into who have just been, you know, just been aces.
21:37
It's, it's been really, it's been really a cool journey to be
21:40
honest with you. We are talking to Golden State
21:42
Warriors play by play broadcaster Tim, right?
21:43
You know, it's funny you mentioned Steve Kerr, just so
21:46
you know, when he was coaching Team USA Basketball.
21:49
It was my take that made the Olympic Committee close down my
21:54
Instagram. I had to renew and create a new
21:56
Instagram. But guess what?
21:58
Instagram. I have more followers now than I
22:01
ever did. So eat it.
22:03
But I said something about Steve Kerr and his coaching and they
22:06
shut me down on Instagram. And then you mentioned Steve
22:08
Nash, and I think he's a nice dude too.
22:10
But what is he thinking, joining a podcast with LeBron friggin
22:15
James that the LJA is leading again, a nice guy to the dark
22:22
side? So I'm just, I'm just speaking
22:25
the truth here. This is, these are the facts.
22:27
I just speak the truth on this show.
22:30
And I know a lot of people don't like it, but you can eat it and
22:32
dish it and sit on it if you don't like it.
22:35
The fact here is, and I I want to get back to what I think the
22:39
Golden State Warriors should be doing and there is a guy right
22:43
now for the that's playing for the New York Knicks.
22:45
There are stories coming out, I've seen post that they're
22:48
looking for a wing guy that can shoot and defend and do all
22:50
those things. There is a guy on the New York
22:52
Knicks that the Knicks traded for five first round draft picks
22:57
that the war, it would be a perfect fit for the Warriors and
23:00
that's Mikkel Bridges. I think that is the guy that if
23:04
they get Mikkel Bridges, they win another championship.
23:07
That's how good Mikkel Bridges would fit with the Warriors.
23:10
Jimmy Buckets and it's Steph Curry, two guys that could
23:13
defend the perimeter and I and shoot the ball.
23:16
He, Mikkel Bridges is a good three-point shooter.
23:18
He's not a great, he's a good three-point shooter and he could
23:20
defend multiple positions. If you were AGM, I should be AGM
23:24
for the Golden State, whereas because I could be another
23:26
Myers. If you were AGM right now, would
23:29
you try or think to make a move for a guy like Mikkel Bridges?
23:36
OK, so. A little background here, the
23:39
Warriors have a number of guys who have contracts that are
23:42
expiring here at the end of the month, and the NBA contract
23:46
cycle goes July through June. So in order to make that deal
23:51
work and, you know, unless you want to trade, you know,
23:55
Draymond stuff for Jimmy Butler, you're going to have to have
23:58
multiple bodies on that deal. Now the problem with that is
24:02
once you sign a guy in the offseason, you can sign and
24:05
trade him. But for the lawyers are so close
24:08
to the cap, they can only get half the money back.
24:12
I believe if I've gotten this right on the cap.
24:15
But the other the other day to remember is December 15th.
24:18
That's the day when you sign a guy in the offseason.
24:21
That's the first day you can trade him.
24:23
And why is that there? And it's there because they put
24:26
that in so that teams don't here, we're going to sign this
24:28
guy and just move them so we can get that guy.
24:30
You know, they, they want teams to be a little bit more
24:33
transparent in, in their dealings.
24:35
And so it keeps, it keeps, you know, signed guy that maybe
24:39
doesn't want to play anymore to get, you know, so they can
24:42
balance out a trade. No, the guy has to be on your
24:45
roster and play till December 15th.
24:47
So, so it's just, it's a protection in there, you know,
24:50
for for a lot of teams. And so I if that was a player
24:54
that they were interested in, and I don't know if they would
24:56
be, but you know, he certainly has the talent and skill set
25:00
that that would certainly would fit just about anywhere.
25:03
You know that that would be the way they would have to do a deal
25:06
like that would be the side guys and then maybe make a deal.
25:09
So I, I, I have to go in and say something about the Knicks
25:13
because I kind of trended that way.
25:15
When you look at the organization as a whole.
25:18
And I know Tom Thibodeau LED them to the Eastern Conference
25:21
finals and a lot of attacks by the Knicks.
25:23
Within 48 hours, they fired him, Tom Thibodeau.
25:26
And then everybody says, well, they fired him because they had
25:28
an idea of who they brought in. They, they wanted to reach out
25:31
to Jason Kidd. The Mavericks had no interest in
25:33
letting him, just let the Knicks speaking to him.
25:35
The Doka thing that Houston Rockets had no interest in
25:39
letting the Knicks speak to him. Now the Knicks are a stupid
25:42
organization. I trust in Leon Rose.
25:45
I think Leon Rose has done a phenomenal job ever since he's
25:47
taken over for all the people that have taken shots at him
25:50
because he was an agent and all this other crap that we've
25:54
heard. What were your thoughts when the
25:56
Knicks decided to part ways with Tom Thibbeau, who's never taken
26:00
a team to a Finals as a coach? And do you think that the Knicks
26:05
already had an idea on who they were going to bring in?
26:07
And the only reason why they have not saw, have not announced
26:11
who they were bringing in because they wanted to make sure
26:15
that the the playoffs were over. So they weren't taking or
26:18
hovering over the the the finals and, and who was going to win or
26:22
who was, who was going to, you know, be the champion of the NBA
26:26
Finals. You think that was why Leon Rose
26:28
decided to hold back on that? Yeah, I think, I think he who
26:32
knows, he might be interviewing people that were that went deep
26:36
into the playoffs, maybe an assistant coach somewhere that
26:38
he likes or something like that. You know, that it was a little
26:43
it was a little odd to see that firing because of the fact that,
26:46
you know, the Knicks have done so well and and and, you know,
26:50
they hadn't done been very good for a long time.
26:52
So it was a little weird. You know, it kind of reminded me
26:57
when the Warriors fired Mark Jackson, you know, if you have a
26:59
kind of an eye roll there and raised eyebrows, well, it just
27:03
wasn't a good fit. He was a good, he did some great
27:06
things. He got the Warriors to play
27:07
defense, and they hadn't played defense in like 15 years.
27:10
So and he convinced Steph Curry and Klay Thompson that maybe
27:15
they were better than what they were at that time.
27:18
But he saw that they're going to be great players and, you know,
27:21
kept calling the greatest shooting backcourt of all time.
27:24
And that gave them a lot of confidence.
27:26
And so he he started it, but the fit wasn't good, you know, with
27:30
upper management and everything else.
27:31
So to make that trip go farther, that's why they brought in Steve
27:35
Kerr. And maybe that's why they, I'm
27:37
not, I have no inside knowledge on any of this.
27:39
But maybe that's what part of it was that maybe they thought it
27:41
just wasn't the right fit that he's done a lot of great things.
27:44
But we got looking for some other style to make that that
27:48
next move. And, you know, when I was a kid,
27:50
I I grew up in Connecticut and you know, the Knicks were the
27:53
the bomb when I was a kid that, you know, you know, everybody,
27:56
you know, everybody wanted to be Walt Frazier and and Dave the
27:59
butcher. I wanted to be real Monroe
28:00
because I couldn't jump so I could deal with that.
28:05
I could only remember that Phil Jackson was like the 6th man off
28:08
the bench or the 7th man and everybody's well, Phil won two,
28:12
two rings as a player. I said he was a decent player,
28:14
wasn't a great player. Phil's known for his voice of
28:17
reason and the Zen master he was as a head coach.
28:20
Nobody gave a crap that he played for the Knicks the two
28:22
years that he won a championship.
28:24
So. Yeah, the Knicks of the 70s
28:27
reminded me a lot of the Warriors in, in, in 1415 and
28:31
1516 because they shared the ball and and everybody got
28:35
touched. They did have the stars and guys
28:37
could really score like, like Steph.
28:39
But it was a real, they were real team.
28:41
And that that's it, you know, and that's one of the reasons I
28:43
really love the Finals. I thought Indiana and Oklahoma
28:45
City, for the most part, they played really strong team
28:48
basketball. You know, everybody had the
28:50
roles, but it wasn't, you know, just watching a guy go ISO the
28:54
whole game and and, you know, back somebody down to try to get
28:57
a A20 footer over the top of them.
28:59
I I really enjoyed it. Tim, before we let go of
29:02
quickly, do you think the NBA had it right, the LJA had it
29:06
right that Shay Alexander was the MVP over Yokich after what
29:10
Yokich did this year? Everybody we've seen this is a
29:13
big man that had a triple double.
29:15
I mean, we Russell Westbrook was the far and along the best
29:19
player when he won, when he won, when he had a triple double,
29:21
James Harden too. Do you think the NBA or the LJ
29:24
had it wrong picking Shay Alexander over Yokich?
29:29
Well, he was a great player on the best team in the league.
29:33
So you got that. But also, I also think because
29:35
we're human beings and human beings vote for this, that there
29:39
is a thing. I, you know, MVP fatigue, you
29:42
know, where if a guy's won it a couple times or won before they
29:46
look around, find somebody else. You know, you could have given
29:48
the MVP to Michael Jordan, you know, each of his last, you
29:51
know, six years, but you know, he went to a couple of other
29:53
guys because that I think they just got people got tired of
29:57
voting for Michael. They wanted to see somebody else
29:58
win the award. And so I, I think there's a
30:01
little bit of that's a human element, But, but you know, to
30:04
me, either one of those guys was fine because I think they're
30:08
both great players. And, and again, the, it's
30:11
amazing to me, the amazing thing about watching pro sports in the
30:15
NB for me, the NBA in particular, because I cover it,
30:18
is that every six years or so, there's a whole new influx of
30:22
young talent. You know, you see that in
30:24
baseball now, a whole bunch of great young players coming in in
30:27
the MLB and the NFL is the same way.
30:29
And, and it's, it really, it's amazing how you know, you get
30:33
used to the crop of guys that are at the top of the league and
30:36
then all of a sudden in three or four years you got to revise it
30:38
again because all these guys are coming in and and just taking
30:41
over. So the the real answer to that
30:43
is the LJA got it wrong. Don't.
30:48
Get the LJA too much bashing if the LJA really had its way.
30:52
Next next time, next time just e-mail me the answers you want,
30:56
OK? And I'll just go.
30:57
You gave. It to me I mean.
30:58
Think of it this way though, if the LJA really got what it want,
31:01
the MV, the top three MVP would be LeBron, Brawny, and then his
31:05
son that hasn't even been drafted yet.
31:07
I knew it. By the way, Cooper flag is a
31:12
sensational player. He's the next face of United
31:15
States basketball. So Mr. Colostomy bag who came
31:18
out on the Bill Simmons show saying that he's no good or he
31:22
says that he is, What did he compare to shrimp that left
31:24
shrimp? What an idiot.
31:26
I mean, what a ridiculous take. Bill Simmons PUPU.
31:32
OK, what a disgusting disgrace of a man that has to come out
31:36
and says says something stupid like that.
31:38
But nevertheless, Tim, I don't want to get you in trouble.
31:41
The oja might be lurking. OK, so we love you.
31:44
Keep up the good work. Before I let you go, we had
31:47
Bryant Snowman on our show. He called up.
31:50
He's on our network. He does the morning show on our
31:53
our and he met you a couple I think a couple of years ago.
31:55
He said he met you in Chicago. In Chicago, he would love to get
31:58
you on the show. If we give you his information,
32:01
would you be interested in going on the show?
32:04
Sure. I'll do.
32:05
All right. Thank you so much, Timmy.
32:07
Timmy, we love you. You're the best in the business.
32:09
We do. Thanks so much.
32:12
Appreciate it. Take care.
32:13
Tim Roy, the one and only, the one and only.
32:16
Let's give it up. Let's give it up, Timmy.
32:21
Timmy loves the show, he does. And I want to say something.
32:25
Tim knows for the facts of the way the LJA works that the LJA
32:30
was absolutely a junk organization that knows that the
32:36
Yokage Trend should have been the one and only MVP of the
32:40
league. I'm just, I'm just speaking the
32:41
truth here. The LJ got it wrong as he was
32:45
trying to be very nice about it. Anyways, ladies and gentlemen,
32:48
we call this segment sounded out.
32:51
Take a roll here. J Quelin.
32:52
Where's J Quelin at? No J Quelin here.
32:54
Do you mean Jacqueline? Let's sound it out.
32:57
What you call me? Sound it out out.
33:03
Here we go. Oh, Errol, it's back.
33:06
You come back, we're back with another episode of sounded out
33:10
Phonic Shamanics. Errol's got it.
33:16
Are you ready? Because we're going to go into
33:19
after this segment preview of the NBA draft, which is on
33:23
Wednesday and Thursday. We'll go over first round of the
33:27
draft on our Thursday show while the second round is going on.
33:32
Maybe we'll be some. We'll talk about some sleepers
33:34
in the top half of the second round.
33:36
I'm sure nobody's really going to talk about the third string
33:39
Polar center that gets drafted #60 but we'll see what happens.
33:44
Because Errol, I've got three names from the NBA draft in the
33:49
past 10 years that you're going to have to sound out on
33:53
tonight's episode of Sounded Out.
33:55
Are you ready to play? I guess you can throw a couple
33:58
curves and if I can catch it I'm in good shape.
34:01
Oh, here's the first one. I think it was the last pick of
34:04
the draft a couple years ago, Errol sounded.
34:08
Out. Giorgio's hold on Kalate Zacus.
34:15
Kalate Zacus speedy it. Is Giorgos Kalatzicus.
34:23
This is that does not sound the same.
34:29
He was actually the last. You're right that she was the
34:30
last pick of the draft actually by the Thunder.
34:33
By the the the championship winning.
34:36
Thank you, thank you, thank you. I thought I was pretty good.
34:41
Tommy, restart the music, let's see if he can't keep his mojo
34:44
going for the next one on tonight.
34:47
Sounded out Errol. Please.
34:49
Moving on it down the draft line, here it is.
34:54
Oh my God, sounded. Out.
34:57
Fion do hold on. Kebenjella Kebenjelli.
35:04
Kembenjelli. Speedy, the first name, was
35:08
actually pretty good. It's Fayandu and then, but the
35:12
last last name is Cabin Galley. He was the late round draft pick
35:17
of the Brooklyn Nets from Florida.
35:19
States how wonderful a. Florida State team, I think you
35:22
said was going to go to the Final Four that year.
35:24
Yes, I did. They choked.
35:29
Choked on that one O and two, but again, all it takes is 1 to
35:35
go one for 3/3/30 full batting. Average.
35:38
He's an All Star in any league. Can we do it tonight?
35:44
Here it is. I think this is on.
35:46
Fire. Errol sounded out.
35:53
Are you? Are you serious, Timothy Lua wua
36:01
Cabrata? You're at Lua Wu, right?
36:06
Timote. Yeah.
36:07
It must be. Timote.
36:11
French Lua Wu you got right, and then Cabrero.
36:15
Ridiculous. What a ridiculous, ridiculous
36:19
segment, ladies and gentlemen, because I will say this for all
36:23
you people out there that were trying or even try to sound
36:26
these names out, good friggin luck, OK?
36:30
It's not easy. Yes, I'm very bad with when it
36:33
comes to certain names. That name is like a mouthful.
36:37
I mean, you can spit, you can jerk, and you still probably
36:41
wouldn't get it right. So that's all I'm going to say
36:43
about that. Sweetie.
36:45
Listen, have you spit on anything over the last couple of
36:48
days? On anything specifically, not
36:51
offhand that I could think. Of not offhand.
36:56
Did you guys get that one? Not offhand, I'm sorry, I just
37:03
had to do that. Anyways, with the NBA draft 2
37:11
days away, there have been many draft rumors around several
37:16
projected top five picks, including Rutgers forward A's
37:20
Bailey. ESP NS Jonathan Gavani reported
37:24
that Bailey has not had any workouts with teams and canceled
37:29
a meeting scheduled to 76ers. One Western Conference NBA
37:34
executive said that Bailey could be out of the league in five
37:38
years if he ends up in the wrong situation.
37:42
Many NBA executive believe another top five projected pick
37:47
baller guard VJ Edgecomb, right. Am I right?
37:51
Yes won't average 12 points per game in the NBA.
37:55
ESPN reports that the 76 years very high in Edgecomb, but are
38:01
still trying to trade up with the Spurs at #2 to draft guard
38:08
Dylan Harper. Even though the Spurs are
38:11
unlikely to trade out of the pick, The Athletic David
38:15
Aldridge reports that the Eastern Conference scouts don't
38:18
see Duke guard Con hold on Canoble as a difference maker in
38:24
the NBA. Aldridge added that multiple ACC
38:28
coaches who have had or played against Cooper Flagg think he
38:35
will be a generational talent in the NBA and thinks that he plays
38:39
the right way without the big ego that has hurt top NBA
38:45
prospects. I have said this for the last
38:50
eight years, ladies and gentlemen.
38:52
You can sell it, You can dish it when it comes to the LJA, you
38:56
can sell me and throw me to the walls if I'm wrong about this.
39:01
Cooper Flag is going to be one of the top five players in the
39:05
NBA in the next 4 years. You've heard it here.
39:08
There is no argument to that. His ability to do the things
39:12
that he does well. He's a good rebounder, he's a
39:16
good shooter. His three-point shot is going to
39:18
get better. He is the white Kevin Durant.
39:23
I have said this for a long, long time and people thought I
39:26
was nuts. Well, how do you do that?
39:28
How could you compare that? He's not a great shooter.
39:30
Let let let's go through Kevin Durant's background where he
39:34
came from Texas and the Longhorns.
39:36
Kevin Durant was a great offensive player.
39:38
He was the number two pick in the draft.
39:40
He was drafted right behind a guy was an absolute bombshell
39:43
who didn't even play at a really a full season with the the
39:48
Portland Trail Blazers and then was out of the NBA four years.
39:52
Really. I I I understand why people
39:54
don't like Cooper flag. He's not he's not a athletically
39:59
gifted talent in their eyes. He doesn't show you why he would
40:04
be a Kyrie Irving coming from Duke or Grant Hill or even a
40:08
Bobby Hurley. We've seen over the years come
40:10
from the Duke Blue Devils, even a Jason Jason Williams.
40:14
Here's why. This guy is a generational
40:17
talent. This guy doesn't talk about
40:19
anybody. He doesn't throw anybody under
40:21
the bus. He goes out there, plays his
40:22
heart out, he blocks. He is an Ultimate Team player.
40:26
The Mavericks got a gem. He is going to be a better
40:29
player than Luka Doncic. And this draft who everybody
40:33
thought was going to be an all time great draft, I, I just
40:37
don't see it. There's a lot of questions in
40:40
this coming draft. The Bailey thing, I don't know
40:43
what E Bailey is going to be. I think he's a top five draft
40:46
pick. I don't understand why people
40:48
don't like him. I like that he has gone out and
40:52
said what he has said after the fact.
40:55
This guy is an ultimate talented player and if he falls and he
40:59
falls out of the first round and he falls to the New York Knicks,
41:02
a slam dunk. We have seen this before.
41:04
As a matter of fact, we saw that this year in the NFL and I'll
41:09
say this again, as we have seen from the Sanders boy, Shador
41:13
Sanders opening his mouth and twiddling around with his nice
41:17
fancy cars and his NIL deals, Ace Bailey is not as bad as
41:22
Shador Sanders. Is he a good person?
41:24
I don't know. I don't know him personally, I
41:27
don't know his family, I don't know where he comes from.
41:29
What I do know is Rutgers basketball was a pretty good
41:33
basketball program and this guy was looked at as a top 10
41:36
prospect for how many years? This guy Before the season last
41:42
year they said Ace Bailey was going to be a top five, top 6th
41:45
pick in next year's Raft class. So why any GM or executive
41:50
thinks that this guy's going to be a bomb shows you how stupid
41:54
the LGA and these organizations are.
41:56
Now the Spurs are an organization that's going to be
41:59
looking for a point guard. The Aaron Fox is not a good fit
42:03
over there. With the Spurs, I never thought
42:05
it was a good fit. I could see them drafting at
42:08
number at #2 the point guard. I think Dylan Harper, which he's
42:12
the guard who everybody thinks is the second best player in
42:15
this class, I think he goes there.
42:17
I think D Aaron Fox will be traded in the offseason, maybe
42:21
at the draft to get a tremendous amount of players for D Aaron
42:26
Fox. The Spurs are maybe if they get
42:30
and and this kid Park, Dylan Harper becomes the player that I
42:33
think he's going to become. You're a player away from being
42:36
a contender in the NBA, in the Western Conference.
42:38
He. Also takes 7 foot wingspan.
42:42
Yeah, he he's special, man. He's a great ball handler.
42:45
He can shoot. He could do all these things and
42:48
he could defend multiple positions.
42:50
He I've seen him I've I've seen him defend threes at at some
42:54
points this year for Rutgers and comes from a program that plays
42:58
defense, really good defense. He's played fours and he's a
43:02
guard. He's a 1.
43:03
So I mean, he's special. And everybody keeps talking
43:06
about Tyrese Halbern. He is the identical match of a
43:11
Tyrese Halbern, maybe even better athletic so and Tyrese
43:16
Halpern can't defend like this kid.
43:17
So I I mean this kid is going to be he's not Cooper flag good,
43:22
but he's right under his talents.
43:25
So I I don't get it. Why everybody?
43:28
And by the way, canoople is a great offensive talent.
43:30
I have no idea what any of these NBA executives are thinking.
43:34
This guy was the second best player on the Duke Blue Devils
43:37
this year offensively. Even in going to the final four.
43:40
This guy was as good as Cooper fled.
43:42
I was gonna. Say like later in the
43:43
tournament, he was probably the best player.
43:45
Yeah, I don't get it. I I don't get what they're
43:48
saying. But again, the NBA has always
43:50
gotten it wrong. Did anybody think that certain
43:53
players were going to? How about the Greek Freak?
43:55
Why did he fall away to what, 1516 the way he did to
43:58
Milwaukee? Where?
43:59
Where are the NBA executives on that one?
44:01
Idiots. How about Jokic falling to the
44:04
second round? Where were the NBA executives on
44:07
that one? I could go on and on and on.
44:09
The NBA executives are as good as the LGA has been.
44:13
When LeBron James or the LeBron James Association was built,
44:17
when he was drafted in 2000, what was it, 4 or 2006?
44:21
Three or three, whatever. I mean, it was born and built
44:25
through that draft class because we all know what came out of
44:28
that draft class, Carmelo Anthony and the one and only
44:32
Dwyane Wade. So I just think that this is an
44:35
absolute mockery. I don't know how.
44:37
First of all, the NBA is a wishy wash.
44:40
You don't know how these players going to be.
44:41
Do I think this class is going to be great?
44:43
I don't know. But I could tell you there's at
44:45
least four really good players in his class.
44:48
And the three guys that we have mentioned, Bailey Harper and the
44:53
one and only flag, those are three, all three of them are
44:56
going to be good players in the NBA.
44:58
Shame on the Colostromy bag or anybody that comes out and says
45:01
the stupidity or remarks the stupid shit that we've heard
45:04
over the last couple of weeks. Yeah, Edgecomb's a talented
45:08
player too. Again, undersized.
45:10
Maybe that's why a lot of these executives are are more
45:12
concerned about him. But we've seen a lot of these
45:14
quicker point guards still be good in today's game.
45:16
Now again, it's not as much of A point guard driven league as we
45:18
saw even like last decade we were talking about with Tim Roy
45:21
with with Steph Curry and a lot of these other dynamic back
45:23
courts that we've seen over the years.
45:25
But at the same time, that doesn't mean you can't have one
45:27
focal point with somebody like Edgecomb who's still 64, could
45:30
bulk into his body a lot more too.
45:32
So anything thinking he's going to fall out of the top ten like
45:34
a lot of these rumors? Are, and a lot of these foreign
45:36
players come out of nowhere too. We, I, I, I wouldn't be
45:39
surprised if two or three of these foreign players become
45:41
stars in the league because the NBA has become an international
45:45
game. As we all know, the three best
45:47
players in the league this year were what?
45:50
Foreign players, right? And there's 2 French guys that
45:53
could go top. I was.
45:54
Just going to bench to that. Yep, as sangue is the one that's
45:57
projected. I don't believe in these French
45:58
guys, honestly. I I really I think.
46:01
They did play well in any of them.
46:02
They did play well in the Olympics, though, especially as
46:04
Sangay playing well just as well as Wembe at certain points
46:07
during the the the group stages. And he's, according to this ESPN
46:11
mock draft, expect to be #9 and fish, like you were saying.
46:13
He could even climb into maybe the fringe top five if somebody
46:16
else falls like Knipple, like Trey Johnson is another one
46:19
that's projected possibly to fall with similar issues like
46:22
Bailey's having. It's just a lot of this pre
46:24
draft process, but like saying like a lot of these kids are
46:26
young, like these pre draft processes aren't like in the NFL
46:30
where they're like conducting all these interviews and doing
46:32
all these tests for them. I'm not hearing that it's
46:34
because of the young kids, though.
46:36
I'm hearing it's because of representation, that Bailey's
46:40
representation has cancelled workouts with three teams
46:44
because he. Doesn't want to go there.
46:46
One of them, he doesn't want to go there.
46:47
Right. And that's, that's the point,
46:48
right. So they're trying to do a
46:51
manipulation of the draft, which we really haven't seen agents be
46:55
as brazen as this trying to do in the NBA.
46:58
We've seen in the NFL, we know Eli Manning forced his way to
47:01
New York. We know years ago John Elway
47:04
forced his way to the Broncos. We know this happens every once
47:07
in a while. Oh, Jackson did, too.
47:09
From Tampa. To oh, Jackson famously right,
47:12
sat out the entire year and then was taken and they didn't even
47:15
realize he could be drafted and he got taken at the end of the
47:17
draft the next. Year and actually Mark Stewart
47:19
could do that this year. Imagine if that happens, that's
47:22
a whole other story. I can't wait.
47:23
If that does happen, we will talk about it in great detail
47:26
with the Bengals. I mean, there was even like a
47:28
kid who like was making fun of Joe Burrow for not making the
47:31
playoffs and like they got to get defense on his team.
47:35
See, that went viral the other day.
47:37
But guys, the NBA draft for me, I, I just wanted to cover a
47:41
couple of guys. You talked about Edgecomb.
47:43
I really like Edgecomb. I, I think there's, there's a
47:46
lot of weird stuff that that's going to happen in the top
47:48
seven. I don't think teams are dumb
47:50
enough to bite on this agent nonsense of we're not going to
47:54
see Ace Bailey work out. So he's going to fall below 3.
47:57
He's going three. I'm sorry.
48:00
Everybody knows he is that next guy.
48:02
He's a prototypical wing. He had like a big wing.
48:06
He's an offensive player. He projects to be long
48:09
defensively and get more athletic with that frame.
48:12
He's probably not done growing. I can't see him going lower than
48:16
four at the latest of a team really likes Edge could.
48:19
You say that's a big trade up possibility too.
48:21
I know Utah is very. Could you?
48:22
Remember the last time 2 Rutgers players in the NBA Draft were
48:27
drafted in the top five? Never have.
48:30
I don't even remember the last Rucker player that was drafted
48:33
in a top five. Because they only just became a
48:35
power conference like 10 Stony Brook representation day by Cal
48:40
doing a great job coaching. This and still like Brook coach.
48:42
Like even that it took them like 15 years.
48:44
They've only been a Power Five team, a Big 10 team for 15 years
48:47
about, and they've only been a really good basketball team
48:49
probably the last five years. Trying to find the A list, maybe
48:54
one of our interns can find the highest drafted Rutgers players
48:58
of all time, but it's for sure these two guys are going to do
49:00
it. And there's a reason why I'm not
49:02
even going to mention Bailey at 3 above 3, because there's no
49:05
doubt that Dylan Harper is going to.
49:08
This guy's unbelievable. He, he's great.
49:12
He is a prize as well in many other drafts, you know, that
49:15
didn't have Cooper flag in it. He would be #1. #100.
49:19
Percent he he is fantastic player.
49:21
I mean, you could just see him dicing everybody up in college.
49:24
I like his hair, that's my favorite part of his game.
49:27
Well, we'll see. You know, if you don't remember,
49:29
like James Harden didn't do any of the hair stuff until he got
49:32
out of the out of college, you know, So who knows?
49:35
What he is a more athletic Tyrese Halliburton who can
49:38
defend too. That's what he is.
49:41
He's a better he's a better you know, on paper, you know, not
49:44
can't talk about the IQ, the stuff, the intangible stuff that
49:48
Halliburton has shown that he can do now in the clutch
49:51
playing. We don't know about that, but
49:53
better athlete. He's a better athlete 65 point
49:57
guard, same thing, right. He's he's a little bit it looks
50:01
like he's a little bit stronger and I.
50:03
Jake got him. James Bailey 1979 Drafted six
50:07
overall in 1979. This is obviously going to break
50:11
it, so it's really impressive. Thank you.
50:13
It's really impressive. Rutgers, you know.
50:16
I want to go back. It's really cool I.
50:17
Want to go back to something Errol was mentioning too.
50:19
Like if they do draft Dylan Harper, they still have Stefan
50:22
Castle there. There are rumors they are
50:23
looking to shop the number 14 pick that they also have.
50:26
Would they could could they include that with Fox in a
50:28
potential deal is something that could be interesting.
50:31
They're looking for something bigger.
50:32
There are a lot of teams right now.
50:34
We've mentioned the Golden State Warriors, the New York Knicks
50:36
that don't have a first round draft pick next year.
50:38
The Knicks have to possibly it all depends on the Wizards this
50:43
and by the way the the LJA with this crap with the unprotected
50:47
protected picks, That is ridiculous.
50:50
I don't want to hear this anymore.
50:51
The NBA has to get this this statistic or the way they
50:56
calculate an unprotected and protected pick.
50:58
Yeah, if you and football do it fine, why don't do conditional?
51:00
If you if you trade the pick, the pick goes to that team.
51:05
Stop. Well, if it's a top 11 pick,
51:08
they, they keep their pick. That doesn't make any sense.
51:11
You're giving up a prospect. How many times have we seen the
51:14
Knicks over the last couple of years give up a, a top 12 pick
51:18
And they're, they get the other teams pick the year after two
51:22
years after, which is if, if, if it's if it's a top 11 pick,
51:26
it's, it's protected and they they don't get the pick.
51:28
And then they got to wait another year.
51:30
And if it gets there and then all all of a sudden it falls all
51:32
the way to a second round pick. How is that fair?
51:34
The Knicks lost two of them in the same draft.
51:36
How is that fair? It doesn't make it look what
51:38
they did with Kristaps Porzingis.
51:40
I mean, they got screwed off that Chris, Kristaps Porzingis
51:43
train. What did they get out of that?
51:45
They got nothing. They lost Chris and it helped
51:48
them. It helped the Boston Celtics
51:50
because they won an NBA title a couple years later because he
51:53
gets traded over there. It doesn't make sense and the
51:56
NBA or the LJ needs to fix this. LeBron James needs to sit with
52:00
Mr. Dumbo himself and have a conversation on how this works
52:04
because it doesn't make sense. They they created the Bird
52:07
situation because the Larry Bird Bird writes that that helped the
52:12
Celtics and a lot of other teams.
52:13
How does this help teams like the Knicks or even the Chicago
52:16
Bulls over the years that they got screwed?
52:19
OK, it doesn't make sense. And the NBA or the LJA or the
52:25
Rudy Gobert NBA garbage. I mean, it's just it doesn't I
52:30
made it mention Rudy Gobert because nobody even remembers
52:32
Rudy Gobert. But the the fact is.
52:35
Draymond Green does, yeah. That's about it.
52:37
He's the only one. The fact is the LJ has to figure
52:42
out how this makes sense. It's not fair to other
52:45
organizations that are put in a situation where they they have a
52:49
number seven pick or 8th pick. They traded away because a team
52:52
wants a certain player. But the year after, two years
52:55
later. If it's not, if it's a protected
52:58
pick, the other team could lose the option to get that pick
53:02
because of how bad they are. Two years.
53:04
If you trade the pick, that pick, no matter how bad they
53:07
are, goes to that team no matter what.
53:10
And that has to be cleaned up because in the new CBA and, and
53:14
the way the new CBA comes out, when, when's the next CBA three
53:18
years from now, four years from now?
53:19
I don't know when it is, but I. Think we said three last time
53:22
we. Looked.
53:22
It has to. It has to be cleaned up, this
53:24
need. This is the one thing that I
53:26
think is affected my thoughts, or even optional thoughts of
53:30
trading away picks at any point in the draft, because it's not
53:33
even that. Makes sense of it, right?
53:35
You know, like, as a as a fan that like loves the sport, it's
53:38
hard to even tell what teams are doing.
53:41
You know that like a guy like Sam Presti just is going to have
53:43
picks because he's a magician with it.
53:45
And that's why they're in the position they're at.
53:47
But when you have these deals with how the Knicks got screwed
53:49
out of picks the last couple years, two years in a row, like,
53:53
you know, it's it's teams are manipulating.
53:56
And once that happens, you got to fix it.
53:57
I wanted to talk about two guys before we finish the subject
54:01
that I wanted to put up a highlight of the first guy is
54:04
from Duke, the Duke center, Malak Malak now great, great
54:08
player. So here's the thing.
54:12
I don't know if he's a great player.
54:13
He's got great size, but when you watch him play, he only does
54:18
a couple of things right. He doesn't have a diverse
54:21
offensive game, to put it mildly.
54:22
He's a rim runner now that's great and he has size on
54:25
defense. But you're just projecting right
54:27
now, right? You're just projecting.
54:29
But Mitchell Robinson was projected in the same way as a
54:32
second round pick. So I.
54:34
Hold on. Well, hold on.
54:36
He was 1880. He decided to play overseas,
54:39
remember, Or the G League. What did he do?
54:40
He went overseas. He decided.
54:43
He decided. I'll say this right now,
54:45
Mitchell Robinson would have been a top five, top seven pick
54:49
if if that's that stuff didn't happen and he decided he was
54:53
supposed to go to SMU. Remember that.
54:54
I think it was SMU, Larry Brown. I'm not, I don't quote me on it,
54:58
but I think that was the team and he decided not to play and
55:02
that hurt him not. Playing for Larry Brown, that
55:04
Larry Brown's career. I'm just saying that hurt him.
55:07
And he was projected to be a top five, top seven pick in the
55:11
draft and he fell all the way to the second round.
55:13
And by the way, the Knicks got lucky that he fell to the
55:16
Knicks. That was one pick that the
55:17
Knicks really got lucky. And by the way, if you look at
55:20
Mitch Robinson, Mitch Robinson when healthy is one of the best
55:23
centers in the NBA. So if Malik is anywhere close to
55:26
that kind of player, you got a gem.
55:29
That's what you want. And centers do not grow on
55:30
trees. Guys that could defend, block
55:33
and do the things that when he was on, when he was in the game,
55:36
especially all the way to the Final Four, he played a big
55:39
factor in every part of those games on why the Duke Blue
55:42
Devils moved on. So I disagree with you.
55:44
I think he's a good player and he can absolutely build a shot.
55:48
We've seen big men build shots as we see one right now with the
55:51
Boston Celtics that's won a title just recently.
55:54
He's now an old timer, but he wasn't a great shooter when he
55:58
went to the NBA so. I don't disagree, I just feel
56:00
like it would break like a pattern these days where those
56:03
types of guys are generally not taken as high because that the
56:07
skill set. You have to be super athletic,
56:09
you can't be slow, you have to be able to rotate some perimeter
56:12
like Mitch. Right, But if Mitch had the
56:15
exposure of Duke, maybe he does go in this spot where Malacca is
56:19
being projected to go was like a 7th or 8th pick.
56:21
I'm sorry Duran would have missed something.
56:23
I think a lot of analogy where they could go like he went 12
56:26
still with having similar size and I think quickness for a big
56:29
man. I think that Malak does have.
56:30
I don't know if he has the upside of Duran like overall but
56:33
he's still pretty good skill set wise.
56:35
That's what I say though, like him at 8, it feels a little high
56:39
just from what you've seen recently, that's all.
56:42
I don't think he's going to be a bad player.
56:43
I just think with his skill set, the guy that I'm fascinated by,
56:46
I'm going to play. His highlight is Mr. Fierce from
56:50
Oklahoma. If you watched any Oklahoma,
56:53
this guy, I like him, is so much fun to watch play, but he
56:57
doesn't play a whole lot of defense.
57:00
That's bad. He's really exciting.
57:02
Obviously no. It reminds me of.
57:03
Right. Great handle, Kyrie.
57:05
It could be like, I would say more like a he's about, he's the
57:10
same size as Kyrie. You think he's 636263?
57:12
It reminds me of a A. Kyrie 180.
57:15
Derrick Rose, his game likes to go to the hole.
57:18
He goes to the hole strong. He's a great ball.
57:20
He's better ball handler than Derrick Rose.
57:22
But the guy has a tremendous ability going and by the way, he
57:25
can go left and right. So I, I, I know who you're
57:28
talking about, He's a guy that could be a steal in the draft.
57:32
Could be a steal. He either is going to figure it
57:34
out competently on defense and be able to play within a season.
57:38
He doesn't have to be the NBA. The LJA has become a
57:41
one-dimensional type of gaming, but.
57:42
Again, it's also with a size thing like I think it wasn't
57:45
because of lack of effort. Oklahoma as a defensive minded
57:48
coach over there. Porter Moser, who's?
57:50
Which is surprising because their football team in our for
57:53
over the years, Lincoln Riley. Lincoln Riley, I didn't even Bob
57:58
Stoops, but he was coaching there.
57:58
Before that, they never had great defensive teams either,
58:00
but they get Porter Moser, who was Loyola Chicago's coach, who
58:03
was one of the best defensive defenses in the country.
58:06
And then he goes over there. Oklahoma we talk about, we talk,
58:08
we talk about all hear how historically good SEC basketball
58:11
was this year. And that could have been a lot
58:13
of the stats they were rigged against him.
58:15
But it's also the size 63180. It's just not as big for the NBA
58:18
game, but I think that's something that can be developed
58:20
with. Good.
58:21
I I doubt I don't understand either.
58:23
I don't care how tall you are. Mugsy Bogues was in the league.
58:26
He was like 5 foot four. OK, I understand the league in
58:29
the game is different and and and Steph Curry has really
58:33
brought that out. When Steph Curry came into leak,
58:35
he was thin, he was scrawny, and I think he grew 2 inches.
58:38
When he came out came out from Davidson, he was like 6-1.
58:43
When he came out of the NBA draft, he grew 2 inches.
58:46
When he was in the NBA, he was small, skinny, scrawny, and
58:50
nobody thought he was going to last in the NBA or the LJ.
58:53
And look what he's turned out to be.
58:55
He's become one of the best players in the NBA over the last
58:58
1213 years. I don't want to hear it anymore
59:01
about size. Size doesn't matter unless
59:03
you're in the bed. If you're in the sack, speedy,
59:05
size matters. But size.
59:07
That cares about that more. Size matters.
59:09
Speaking of Nathan, we we miss Nathan and we have breaking
59:12
news. Breaking news, I farted.
59:14
That's that's the truth. I farted too by the way, and it
59:17
smells. I just, and my farts don't
59:21
smell. I still have those salty
59:23
feelings over here in my pants and they're definitely stuck.
59:27
I I I'll be honest, you can ask Brittany.
59:31
I heard her. Moan in the other room about.
59:32
That Brittany. Are you here?
59:33
Come over here. I I I want her.
59:36
I want her to hold on. Can we cut salty farts in my
59:39
pants? She I I definitely want her to
59:41
say, you know, she she smelt the the salty farts.
59:45
Speedy get her on for a second right just for a second I come
59:51
on speak it to the mic. It was horrible.
59:54
It was horrible. You think it was definitely
59:56
something that you don't want to imagine, but they definitely I
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definitely probably scared a bunch of giraffes out of the
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bedroom. So it was it was an interesting
1:00:06
smell, but definitely something what am I in a jail cell right
1:00:10
there? Oh, there I am, Yes.
1:00:11
That's probably true. And there's the sharks waiting
1:00:14
for me when I go in the water. By the way, I didn't realize
1:00:17
that Bermuda is around coral reefs and sharks don't really
1:00:21
hang out around there. But then again, Brittany didn't
1:00:24
realize that that the guy was we were driving and he said, well,
1:00:27
there were hammerheads seen, you know, you know, somewhere around
1:00:30
the waters over the last couple of months.
1:00:32
And she's like, if I heard that I would have went on a jet ski.
1:00:35
So we were on the jet skis. By the way, got great video on
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it. I definitely got to send you the
1:00:39
video. So you guys, because you hear
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her ski. So she had fun.
1:00:46
I'm just pissing. I like pissing her off.
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Thank you to all the fans on social medias, all the social
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Thank you to all the guys. Yeah, thank you to all the guys
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1:01:06
I needed a little bit of a break and it's not easy.
1:01:09
I I'll tell you this, everybody thinks, oh, you can grab a mic
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and do a radio show. It's not easy.
1:01:14
It takes a lot of time. It takes a lot of practice and,
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We'll be back on Thursday, Speedy, who do we have on the
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your his two things Ward boy project and NFL agency player
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know know anything more about what those foundations are
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But but tell us in a text and we'll ask him about it on
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Thanks Nith. We love Nith.
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Nith is good. Nith is sticking with it as we
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all know. Hopefully Speedy sticks with it
1:02:29
too. You know what I mean, Speedy?
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That's. Nathan's the one about the hot.
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Leaf, but I'm asking you about. Sticking things about the hot
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I'm. Asking you about sticking with
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it. Are you going to stick with it
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tonight? Stick with what?
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Well, there you go. He doesn't know how to use his
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hands and he likes to dry you up.
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Anyways, that's it. Good night.
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