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- 0:00Today we're going to talk about trauma versus incompatibility.
- 0:06And the reason I think this is worthy of a topic is because if
- 0:10I had a dime for every time a couple came in and said to me,
- 0:14we're just so different. We're just so different.
- 0:17Well, of course you're different.
- 0:18And part of those differences are what attracted you to each
- 0:22other because there was something both of you needed
- 0:25from each other. That's oftentimes why people who
- 0:30are more anxiously attached find somebody who's more avoidantly
- 0:34attached and vice versa. And so those differences aren't
- 0:38necessarily bad, but that doesn't necessarily mean that
- 0:42either your trauma doesn't get triggered at times or it doesn't
- 0:45necessarily mean that it's incompatibility.
- 0:49So today we're going to dive in and we're going to discover
- 0:52which is which. Now, before we dive in, don't
- 0:56forget to download your free trauma assessment and then liner
- 1:00notes below. And if you want any help with
- 1:03implementation of any of the tools or techniques we talked
- 1:06about on the show, feel free to sign up for a clarity call or we
- 1:10can help you bring focus to your healing strategy and help you
- 1:15outline your next steps. Welcome to trauma free
- 1:19relationship. I'm Tom Philp, your host, and
- 1:22I've been working for years with adults who struggle with
- 1:25relational trauma to regain trust in themselves and others
- 1:29so that they can experience a safe and secure relationship.
- 1:34Let's get started. OK.
- 1:46As I mentioned at the opening, we're going to talk about
- 1:50compatibility today versus trauma and, and what those
- 1:55differences might be. I see both in, in working with
- 2:01individuals as well as couples where there are certainly times
- 2:05that it feels like traumas being triggered and it feels painful
- 2:11and it feels like there's just these huge differences.
- 2:14And I certainly see times where there is incompatibility as
- 2:18well. But I don't think often times
- 2:21couples always distinguish which is which.
- 2:25So I thought this was worthy of a deeper dive with trauma, and
- 2:31this is important here. With trauma, your early
- 2:36relationships have been defined by a lack of emotional
- 2:43availability and attunement. And what that does is that is
- 2:47taught your nervous system to adapt to that.
- 2:52And so early relationships are often teaching the nervous
- 2:56system what love feels like. And then of course those nervous
- 3:00systems are are brought into adulthood through maturity.
- 3:05And then now all of a sudden we find ourselves in adult
- 3:07relationship and so we can we can re experience what felt like
- 3:14a wound back then in our current relationships.
- 3:18And as a result, trauma can create some false signals
- 3:21sometimes and it can create a sense of calm, which actually
- 3:26then feels like something boring and unsafe.
- 3:30An interesting phenomenon that I've seen is where there's
- 3:34sometimes people, and I see this more with females and males,
- 3:39they, they actually kind of like and are drawn towards the bad
- 3:42boy because the drama they've experienced at home is what
- 3:48their nervous system has adjusted to.
- 3:50And so the guy that feels safe actually feels boring.
- 3:55And so they're actually drawn to more of the unsafe person
- 4:00because that somehow lights up their nervous system.
- 4:04That somehow tells our nervous system, Oh yeah, we know how to
- 4:07deal with this. We know what this is like.
- 4:09And in some ways it gives them a dopamine rush.
- 4:12And so it feels very exciting because it's also very familiar.
- 4:17And, and the opposite can happen.
- 4:18Intensity can sometimes feel like chemistry.
- 4:22And so sometimes when we I've seen people with past trauma get
- 4:27into relationships, it's really intense in the beginning.
- 4:31And so they mistake that for, Oh my gosh, there is this deep
- 4:34connection. Nobody has experienced this like
- 4:38we have experienced this. And so sometimes that intensity
- 4:42often can feel like chemistry or get replaced with what they
- 4:47think is chemistry when actually what's happening is your nervous
- 4:52system is adapting or lighting up over what it had to adapt to.
- 4:58So you know, some key distinctions here, right?
- 5:01Trauma is about, it's a survival based reaction.
- 5:05Our nervous system has adapted as a way to survive to a
- 5:10particular environment or person.
- 5:14Where is trauma also is very much about safety and security.
- 5:20Compatibility is different. Compatibility is very much about
- 5:25values, needs, and the capacity for emotional alignment.
- 5:30Let me say that again, because that's very different than
- 5:33safety and security. It's about compatibility is
- 5:37about values and needs as well as the capacity for emotional
- 5:44alignment. And so these two can sometimes
- 5:47look similar in a relationship. Let me give you example.
- 5:51One of the ways I think about this is let's let's say you have
- 5:55a pair of shoes and you put on these pairs of shoes.
- 5:59And regardless of what pair of shoe you have on, it could be a
- 6:04running shoes, they could be your athletic shoes, ballet
- 6:08shoes. It doesn't matter if your ankle
- 6:11is sprained, then it doesn't matter what pair of shoes you
- 6:15put on because you're going to walk with a limp.
- 6:19The pain is going to be real. But the shoe isn't the problem.
- 6:23The ankle is the problem. And so often times when trauma
- 6:28shows up in a relationship, it's not the shoe that's the bad fit.
- 6:33It's because trauma has been triggered and needs to be worked
- 6:37on and healed in order for then for the incompatibility issues
- 6:44to be addressed. Whereas incompatibility is more
- 6:48like a shoe that that is a size too small.
- 6:51It's simply doesn't fit and no amount of rest or stretching or
- 6:56healing of the ankle is going to make that shoe fit because that
- 7:01shoe is simply too small, regardless of, of how well the
- 7:07ankle is healed and back to, to normal functioning in that
- 7:12sense. So I, I hope that's a little bit
- 7:15of a metaphor here that we can talk about when we're looking at
- 7:18this idea of compatibility versus a trauma reaction coming
- 7:24up in the relationship. Because trauma is very much
- 7:27around centered around safety and security in a relationship
- 7:32where is compatibility is very much about fit.
- 7:37And so there are some comma trauma driven experiences.
- 7:42We can have strong reactions to small ruptures.
- 7:47And I see this a lot where somebody's trauma ends up being
- 7:52a whole nother layer that gets heaped on a rupture in the
- 7:55relationship. The rupture may be a small
- 7:58misunderstanding, but instead of being able to contain it to that
- 8:03that particular area, what happens then is a trauma is
- 8:07triggered and there becomes this whole nother layer of this
- 8:10reaction to that small rupture. Oftentimes for trauma, it can
- 8:17the feeling can be too much or not enough, right?
- 8:20And this falls right into our categories of anxious or voidant
- 8:24styles of attachment. The feeling is not enough.
- 8:28Downplaying the feeling, tuning out the feeling, disassociating
- 8:33from the feeling, or it's just feeling too much.
- 8:37It's completely overwhelming. So that we're not really sure of
- 8:40what we're feeling. We can't organize it to get to
- 8:44the root of the problem. Rather, there's just so much
- 8:47anxiety that's going on. It just feels too global, if you
- 8:51will, just too massive and overwhelming.
- 8:55So again, we're talking about these trauma types of responses
- 8:58in a relationship that are different from compatibility.
- 9:02So this is all about to extend our metaphor here.
- 9:05This is all about the the hurt ankle.
- 9:08This is all about the sprained ankle that we're trying to
- 9:11address that can show up in the relationship, such as the urge
- 9:16to flee after closeness or commitment.
- 9:20That might feel like your autonomy, your independence, is
- 9:24now being threatened. And so there might be a urge to
- 9:28flee or not to commit for the fear of being tied down because
- 9:32somehow that would steal your sense of competence and steal
- 9:37your sense of autonomy for yourself.
- 9:42Another one's confusion, anxiety with intuition.
- 9:46So being able to draw on your gut about what you truly feel
- 9:51and use that to inform you of, of information and decisions
- 9:56that you need to make. But rather, again, there's just
- 9:59too much global anxiety that it feels like you can't organize
- 10:03it. It feels just too overwhelming.
- 10:06And then finally, I think interpreting neutral behavior as
- 10:11rejection. I texted my partner.
- 10:14It's been 2 hours. They haven't texted me back.
- 10:17I knew it. Once again, I'm unimportant to
- 10:20this person. They never respond to me when I
- 10:23need. They're blowing me off.
- 10:25They're rejecting me. And this is this is triggering
- 10:29something much deeper than Oh well, they're, they did tell me
- 10:32they had this long meeting today.
- 10:34Maybe they're just stuck in this meeting.
- 10:36Maybe it's not about me. And so those are just some
- 10:39examples of how trauma might actually show up in the
- 10:43relationship. And it might be more like the
- 10:46sprained ankle as opposed to the shoe not fitting.
- 10:51And so often times we can ask ourselves, is my reaction
- 10:55proportional to the present moment or is this familiar from
- 11:00my past? Remember, when we have trauma,
- 11:05having flashbacks is not just about a visual flashback or even
- 11:11cognitive thinking we hear something.
- 11:13But really the more common flashbacks are emotional types
- 11:17of flashbacks, flashbacks where the emotion feels very similar
- 11:22to something we have felt in the past.
- 11:25And so one of the ways we can ask ourselves is this trauma
- 11:28versus incompatibility is to ask ourselves, is this reaction
- 11:32proportional? Now, sometimes we can only truly
- 11:36answer that question when we have pulled ourselves back into
- 11:41the window of tolerance, back into a place where we're more
- 11:45calm, we're not so flooded, we're not in fight or flight.
- 11:49And as a result, we can integrate our cognition and our
- 11:53emotion. And then oftentimes we can see
- 11:56and be more grounded and more clear and more connected to
- 12:00ourselves to really be able to evaluate, Oh yeah, this makes
- 12:04perfect sense. This kind of was an
- 12:06overreaction. I really did get pretty
- 12:08defensive. And I can see how now that that
- 12:12was sort of disproportionate to the situation.
- 12:15And so as a result, I can see maybe that was more of my trauma
- 12:18that got triggered and a whole nother layer I put on there as
- 12:23opposed to just dealing with it outright.
- 12:26So that's a little bit about how trauma shows up.
- 12:28Now. Let's talk about what happens if
- 12:31the shoe is too small. No matter how healthy the ankle
- 12:35and the leg are, if the shoe is too small, it's just not going
- 12:40to be a fit. And so there can be an ongoing
- 12:44misalignment in incompatibility between you and your partner.
- 12:50And one of those misalignments can be with values.
- 12:53So one person might love the outdoors, whereas the other one,
- 12:58their whole idea of a vacation is five star hotels and lying on
- 13:02the beach, reading a book, getting in suntan and and going
- 13:06to fine dining. And there's nothing wrong with
- 13:08either of those. But if we never have a balance
- 13:11between the two, if the other person never gets to go out
- 13:14camping or hiking or to share something that they value with
- 13:20the other person, then that can feel like an incompatibility
- 13:24over time. And that's just one small
- 13:27example of different values. Certainly a lot of times you'll
- 13:31see a a value difference around money in relationships.
- 13:35Or one partner is a spender and the other partner is more of a
- 13:39saver. And one partner feels like, you
- 13:42know what, we could always make more money.
- 13:43It's no big deal. We can't take us with this one.
- 13:46We die. We might as well enjoy some of
- 13:48it while we're here, while we're living, while we're around.
- 13:51And the other partner says, yeah, but if we don't save
- 13:54money, then we don't have a little nest egg for the kind of
- 13:57future we want. And I don't want to have to work
- 14:00to the bone, you know, the rest of my life.
- 14:03I want to be able to retire and enjoy it and have the kind of
- 14:06lifestyle that we really enjoy and so on and so forth.
- 14:10So those can kind of be value differences as well.
- 14:14There can be life direction differences where maybe one
- 14:18person wants kids and the other person doesn't, or one person
- 14:22might want to eventually move out to the country and the other
- 14:25person wants to stay in in the big city, so to speak.
- 14:30So we can have different values around what our shared future
- 14:35looks like. And that certainly can creep
- 14:38into what a what those conversations might be for what
- 14:42retirement or empty nesting might look like for us as we get
- 14:47older. Certainly we can have emotional
- 14:51availability that can be misaligned.
- 14:54One person needs closeness and more connection, more quality
- 14:58time. The other person is fine with
- 15:01more space, more independence. So certainly we can be
- 15:05misaligned around our ability for to balance the need for
- 15:10closeness and connection versus the need for some distance and
- 15:14autonomy. And then finally, we can have
- 15:17incompatibility around communication.
- 15:20So what is our ability to communicate?
- 15:23One person might be able to be very emotionally literate.
- 15:28They might be able to speak much more freely about their
- 15:30emotional life, what's going on internally inside them.
- 15:34The other person, not so much. The other person might really
- 15:38struggle with being able to use emotion words, describe what
- 15:41they're feeling inside and the deeper meanings those feelings
- 15:45hold for them. So sometimes we can have
- 15:47incompatibility around the way we communicate because our
- 15:52trauma does inform our communication style.
- 15:56And I did an episode on that. If you want to swing back and
- 16:00listen to that one. I did talk about how our trauma
- 16:04can inform different communication styles, which can
- 16:08then ultimately, you know, feel feel more like we're caught in
- 16:14those negative cycles. So notice all the things I've
- 16:18talked about here are largely conscious values, life
- 16:23direction, the need for closeness versus distance.
- 16:27Those types of things are largely conscious.
- 16:29They they tend to not necessarily get get triggered
- 16:34like trauma does, where all of a sudden they might cause some
- 16:38sense of dysregulation that we're unaware of until we become
- 16:43re regulated. We can sense usually that
- 16:46there's a difference in values. Another way I see that certainly
- 16:50with a lot of couples is how we parent our children.
- 16:54Sometimes we rely on the way we were parented in the past by our
- 16:59own parents, and we sort of subconsciously just play that
- 17:03out with our own children. Whereas our partner may have had
- 17:06a very different experience growing up and so they
- 17:08subconsciously sort of parent the way their parents did.
- 17:12And that can create a difference in values about how we parent,
- 17:17how we discipline our children, how we show up for them in
- 17:21different ways, how we help them learn the the kinds of
- 17:25discipline they need to grow up to be independent,
- 17:28self-sufficient adults. So these types of values can
- 17:32definitely be misaligned in a relationship and and they can
- 17:37definitely feel like incompatibility.
- 17:41You know, one partner may want a deep emotional processing.
- 17:46They love to go deep. They love to talk about deep
- 17:48things. The other tends to avoid going
- 17:50deep. They, they live life more in
- 17:52their head perhaps. And as you'll notice here, a lot
- 17:55of what I'm talking about in terms of incompatibility, you
- 17:59can kind of see show up a little bit in our different attachment
- 18:02styles as well. But these things aren't
- 18:04necessarily triggered when our attachment needs come online.
- 18:10These things aren't necessarily that these values don't
- 18:12necessarily just show up in times of a triggered attachment
- 18:17longings. They can show up when things
- 18:19aren't triggered because ultimately incompatibility is
- 18:24about fit, whereas traumas about safety and it's about security
- 18:30in the relationship. And so those I think are the big
- 18:34takeaways from today is how do we talk about compatibility and
- 18:40in this case, incompatibility as a sense that the shoe doesn't
- 18:44fit no matter how healthy the ankle and the leg are versus
- 18:49that the ankle is is broken or or bruised or or sprained and
- 18:55needs attention regardless of what kind of shoe we put on it.
- 19:00So how do we tell some of the differences between
- 19:04incompatibility versus trauma? Well, if trauma is about safety,
- 19:10then some of these things need to be looked at in terms of your
- 19:16relationship, whether they take place in order to be able to add
- 19:20safety. And one of them is about
- 19:22accountability, right? If, if we mess up, can we take
- 19:26accountability for ourselves and re establish a sense of safety
- 19:30in the relationship to talk about the mistake?
- 19:33And accountability is very important in being able to say,
- 19:37you know what? I, I showed up again, I, my, my
- 19:40trauma got triggered. I started to shut down.
- 19:43I knew I was doing it, but I couldn't pull myself out of it.
- 19:46But I can see where that sends a signal to you that I don't care
- 19:51about what you're feeling. And I'm sorry that happened.
- 19:55I'm, I'm working on it. I'm trying to get better at it.
- 19:58I'm trying to communicate what's happening internally in those
- 20:00moments for me, but but I'm fully accountable to the fact
- 20:04that I did it again. Another way is repair.
- 20:08Is repair happening when we have ruptures in the relationship?
- 20:13Are we answering those fundamental questions around
- 20:16repair? What did I learn about myself,
- 20:18what I learned about my partner? How did it show up in our cycle?
- 20:22And how did I contribute to that?
- 20:24And what actually helped us repair?
- 20:26Those are 4 fundamental questions we need to ask in
- 20:30order to have effective repairs. And then of course, consistency.
- 20:34Is my partner consistently emotionally available and
- 20:39responsive to me when I need it? Because when my partner turns
- 20:43towards me and they do this consistently, this is like drops
- 20:48of trust in a bucket for me. And the more drops I have, the
- 20:52more the trust bucket fills up and the more confident I feel
- 20:56like my partner's going to be there.
- 20:57Because I know they're there for the little things.
- 21:00So you can bet I feel like they're going to be there for
- 21:03the big things as well. So incompatibility can show up
- 21:09and look very different than trauma does.
- 21:12Trauma can show up in terms of accountability, repair
- 21:16consistently. If we're doing these things,
- 21:19then we're healing trauma in the relationship and when both
- 21:25partners can engage in accountability, in repair and
- 21:29consistency. However, there are times where
- 21:34incompatibility it actually it, it it it doesn't.
- 21:40It doesn't get repaired. It feels like we continually run
- 21:44into the same problems. I continually to get frustrated
- 21:48with my partner over the way their parenting children because
- 21:52that runs so counter to my way of doing it or the way I was
- 21:56taught or how I even think it's effective now.
- 22:00And so often times incompatibility kind of can show
- 22:04up as repeated dead ends. So we keep talking about the
- 22:08same things over and over. We can talk through them.
- 22:12Our traumas don't get triggered. We can repair and, and recognize
- 22:16that, OK, well, we need more conversation around this.
- 22:19We can be emotionally available to each other as we talked
- 22:22through these things, but consciously, it just feels like
- 22:26we have different perspectives on this issue.
- 22:30And so another way to look at this is in terms of how we stay
- 22:36regulated, right? Trauma reactions tend to soften
- 22:40with grounding. So when we stay grounded, when
- 22:42we come back into the window of tolerance, then, then that means
- 22:47we've sort of softened our traumatic reaction, our triggers
- 22:51to our partner, and we're now in a place where we can use empathy
- 22:55and validation. We stay grounded, clear and
- 22:57connected to ourselves and our partner.
- 23:01Whereas incompatibility remains clear even when there's calm.
- 23:07OK, yeah, we're calm, like I said a few minutes ago.
- 23:10But but there's still no overlap here.
- 23:13There's still no resolve because we just see things so
- 23:16differently. And so that's a difference
- 23:19between incompatibility and trauma.
- 23:21Even if we get regulated and we're calm, we still can get
- 23:26frustrated that we see it so differently.
- 23:29And then finally, I think, you know, how do we tell the
- 23:32difference? Trauma can asked, how do I keep
- 23:37this? In other words, how do I keep
- 23:39this relationship going? How do I keep my partner showing
- 23:44up for me in this way? Because this is hugely helpful
- 23:47where compatibility asks, does this nurture me?
- 23:51Does my partner's values, aspirations, futures, does it
- 23:56fit for me? Is is this a good nourishment
- 23:59for me with where I see my life going, how I want to raise my
- 24:04kids, how I want to show up in the world as I change?
- 24:09Is my partner supporting that for me?
- 24:11So is this nourishing in that sense?
- 24:14So that could definitely be a compatibility issue as opposed
- 24:19to a trauma issue in our relationships.
- 24:24Finally, let me say that I, I think the goal sometimes is
- 24:30first to make sure that we can talk through issues before in a
- 24:35calm way, in a regulated way, before we try to address the
- 24:40incompatibility issues. A lot of times I think couples
- 24:44lead with the other one. Oh, we're just so different.
- 24:47We're so incompatible before they've learned how to break
- 24:50cycles, how to soften, how to show up in a vulnerable, softer
- 24:54way for each other, how to soften their defenses and their
- 24:57anxieties, how to drop down into their core emotion and in order
- 25:02to communicate what's really going on with them.
- 25:05Those things I think need to be worked on 1st before we start
- 25:09working on the compatibility piece because it is possible
- 25:13that, and I've seen couples do this before, that there's more
- 25:17alignment, there's more overlap as to our values and goals.
- 25:23Once we learn some of this other trauma work, you know, staying
- 25:27regulated, reducing cycles, learning how to communicate
- 25:32better, all of that stuff, we might find that there's more
- 25:36overlap and we're not as incompatible as we often think
- 25:42we are. Thank you so much for listening,
- 25:45as always. I really appreciate it.
- 25:46My name is Tom Phillip and I am here to remind you to stay
- 25:49grounded, clear and connected.