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Show Recaps, Real Talk About Prep & Olympia Chat 1.5 Weeks Out · Stage Talk Podcast

• 0:02
  SPEAKER_00: Also, this week has been like, you know, when it's like one of those frustrating weeks where it's like Olympia's coming, so I want to try and get everything ready and all that type of thing, but things just keep going wrong.
• 0:11
  SPEAKER_00: My headphones broke today.
• 0:12
  SPEAKER_00: Like literally, I was just putting them on for cardio.
• 0:15
  SPEAKER_00: You can see them slightly skew with right now.
• 0:18
  SPEAKER_00: And like it just, I don't know.
• 0:21
  SPEAKER_00: It was just it's one of those things that I'm like, just not this week, please, because it's Olympia week.
• 0:27
  SPEAKER_00: So can we just like not have that going on right now?
• 0:30
  SPEAKER_00: Um but it's exciting, it's coming up very quickly.
• 0:36
  SPEAKER_00: Um I was just complaining to Corey how I was in my head all of yesterday, so I was like, nope, not doing the podcast.
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_00: So um, but we're better today.
• 0:46
  SPEAKER_00: We're in a better we're a better spot today, and uh it is funny because I think Olympia is it's the biggest show, and you put so I think I haven't done this show in three years, and I think the pressure I I only literally just realized it like yesterday.
• 0:59
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, holy shit, I haven't done this show in like three years, and I panicked.
• 1:05
  SPEAKER_00: I quite literally panicked.
• 1:07
  SPEAKER_01: So, um but I know fingers crossed, you're not last call out.
• 1:11
  SPEAKER_00: I know.
• 1:14
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my god.
• 1:15
  SPEAKER_00: Like, and uh it it's so it's so silly, like how much pressure we really generally put on ourselves, like for this show specifically, because it's like it's like every other show, and that's all I have to just keep telling myself.
• 1:26
  SPEAKER_00: Like it is I know it's not, I know it's not, but to get through it, you just gotta tell yourself it's like every other show.
• 1:32
  SPEAKER_01: Um I mean it's one of those things where when you're with what you need to do as an athlete is like every other show.
• 1:38
  SPEAKER_01: There is nothing different.
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_01: There is nothing different on the athlete's end, it's just obviously the pinnacle bodybuilding show.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_01: But like as far as like what you do show day morning, what you do backstage, what you do on stage, absolutely nothing is different.
• 1:52
  SPEAKER_00: So and it's the same with like anyone, you know, because there's pro, you know, pro qualifiers coming up, and there's just been pro-qualifiers and stuff like that for anyone listening that's going for pro cards or going for an Olympia qualification or whatever.
• 2:04
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I think that pressure gets worse the further you climb up because there's expectations that we have for ourselves, and we say, okay, these this is a really, really, really big event, so you know, we have to take it really seriously and we have to do this, this, this, and it makes it so much like more stressful when we really don't need to put that stress, and it's funny because I'm literally saying this, and I still live in that very stressful mindset, so it's very easy for me to say that, but it's not as hard to always deliver.
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_00: But I it's sometimes it's just take every day as it comes, literally, every day as it comes, every day as it comes.
• 2:40
  SPEAKER_00: So, but yo, yeah.
• 2:42
  SPEAKER_00: So, right, what we're going on that what we got going on this week.
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_01: Um, we had uh two, no, we have like five shows.
• 2:50
  SPEAKER_01: Um yeah, we had a bunch.
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_01: We had a bunch of show.
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_00: We had a lot of shows this week.
• 2:55
  SPEAKER_01: And we only have one this upcoming week, or is there two?
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_01: Is there an international?
• 2:59
  SPEAKER_00: There's an international show.
• 3:00
  SPEAKER_00: There's it's actually Turkey's first pro show, I want to say.
• 3:06
  SPEAKER_00: I don't correct me if I'm wrong, it's the first bikini pro show.
• 3:09
  SPEAKER_00: So they might have done male pro shows before, but this is definitely the first female division they've ever had, which is really cool for Turkey.
• 3:18
  SPEAKER_01: That is cool.
• 3:18
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and again, there's a lot more like developing countries that are kind of starting to add in categories like bikini wellness into their regime because they can see you know how popular it is and how good it is actually to have, which is cool.
• 3:33
  SPEAKER_00: Um, let's go start with the first one.
• 3:39
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, okay.
• 3:42
  SPEAKER_00: We have where is it?
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_00: How many shows?
• 3:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we had loads of shows this weekend.
• 3:47
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so let's start with Janet's show.
• 3:53
  SPEAKER_00: So we have Rihanna, who literally just made it to the uh to Arizona today, uh yesterday, sorry, and she's in um Arizona now and to the Olympia, which is kind of cool.
• 4:05
  SPEAKER_00: So, um, but this was a really cool lineup.
• 4:09
  SPEAKER_00: We said Delvicy before, you know, it would be Rihanna and Tori.
• 4:13
  SPEAKER_00: And um both delayed.
• 4:14
  SPEAKER_00: Brenda looked great too well.
• 4:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Brenda didn't really like to be a little bit more.
• 4:17
  SPEAKER_01: I really like Brenda's look in third place, really, really good.
• 4:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, really, really good.
• 4:21
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and then you've got Julia who's come back, I think after two years, maybe a year off, if I'm not mistaken.
• 4:29
  SPEAKER_00: Um so she's she's developed a lot because that was always her feedback was she needs a little bit more density and more conditioning to come with that, and she's you know, to get straight into that kind of top five call out for her first show she's done this year is really good.
• 4:41
  SPEAKER_00: So I think she's also doing Sasquatch this weekend as well, which is cool.
• 4:44
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so um, I love the way that Rihanna hits her front pose, it's so nice.
• 4:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's looked very, very good, very good top to bottom.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_01: Tori looks like I don't know if it's just the angle, but she looks almost leaned back a little bit with her torso.
• 4:57
  SPEAKER_01: She's yeah, just sitting back into that too much, might be taking away a bit from the glutes, obviously take away from the balance of the upper body.
• 5:04
  SPEAKER_01: But regardless, like physique-wise, she looked very, very on, and her back pose looked amazing as well.
• 5:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, she's really brought her back pose really nicely, a lot a really nice amount as well.
• 5:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 5:16
  SPEAKER_00: I really like Julia's back pose.
• 5:17
  SPEAKER_00: I really like Julia's back pose.
• 5:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 5:20
  SPEAKER_00: Really, I think she's got a lot of balance, she's got a lot of balance like in her tie-ins and stuff, which is good.
• 5:25
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 5:26
  SPEAKER_01: Brenda's feet are uh very, very off-center.
• 5:29
  SPEAKER_01: That's why you see a lot more adductor and tie-in on the right side than you do on the left.
• 5:33
  SPEAKER_01: That right foot is forced more towards us.
• 5:35
  SPEAKER_01: It's a good, it's a good several inches, like that's a big difference.
• 5:38
  SPEAKER_01: So that's what's throwing off her back pose because she looks amazing there, regardless.
• 5:41
  SPEAKER_01: Um, this is good, good top six back poses for sure.
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and then you've got I think this is is this Roxy?
• 5:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, is she a newer pro or is she recently?
• 5:51
  SPEAKER_00: Like, this is her pro debut.
• 5:53
  SPEAKER_01: So I recognize her, but we spoke about her last week.
• 5:56
  SPEAKER_00: So last week, obviously, we brought her up, and yeah, this was her pro debut.
• 6:01
  SPEAKER_00: Uh pro debut?
• 6:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, this was her pro debut, her rookie season.
• 6:05
  SPEAKER_00: Was this her rookie season, like going into all the time?
• 6:08
  SPEAKER_01: Click on that picture above.
• 6:08
  SPEAKER_01: She won nationals last year or two years ago?
• 6:11
  SPEAKER_00: Last year.
• 6:12
  SPEAKER_01: Last year, okay, cool.
• 6:13
  SPEAKER_00: And she was overall champ, yeah.
• 6:14
  SPEAKER_00: Overall champ.
• 6:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yep, yep.
• 6:16
  SPEAKER_00: So that's cool.
• 6:18
  SPEAKER_00: 2025, yeah.
• 6:19
  SPEAKER_00: So not even a full year.
• 6:24
  SPEAKER_00: Which is good.
• 6:25
  SPEAKER_00: Again, to come straight into first season top six, like, that's pretty damn good.
• 6:30
  SPEAKER_00: So especially you know, with a lineup like this is cool to see.
• 6:35
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and then we had I don't know if we have a we do have Europa.
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_00: So then we've got Europa Pro, which is Germany, which was, I think this is Nadia.
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_01: I can't remember what her first name is.
• 6:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Nadia.
• 6:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, she looked really good.
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_00: Very, very good.
• 6:55
  SPEAKER_00: Very, very good.
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_00: Like oh yeah, where are we?
• 6:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, really nice, like, really nice overall balance.
• 7:03
  SPEAKER_00: She's very she's a lot more conditioned than I think everyone else, but I think she looks the most complete overall, if that makes sense.
• 7:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I feel like Maya, she Maya looks very good.
• 7:13
  SPEAKER_00: I think she just needs to be a tad tighter.
• 7:15
  SPEAKER_00: She I've seen her tighter before.
• 7:17
  SPEAKER_00: Um from what I from what I've seen.
• 7:20
  SPEAKER_00: So I feel like she just needs to be a little bit tighter in like tiny bit in the waistline and maybe in the in the back pose, I think.
• 7:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 7:27
  SPEAKER_00: Just a little.
• 7:29
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but overall, really, really good look.
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_00: Like Nadia looked really nice.
• 7:33
  SPEAKER_00: I like her like makeup hair, everything's very, very sleek here.
• 7:38
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, no, top to bottom, very, very good.
• 7:40
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I like I I think she's a little on the harder side, but it works for her here.
• 7:44
  SPEAKER_00: That's what I mean.
• 7:46
  unknown: Yeah.
• 7:46
  SPEAKER_00: That's what I mean.
• 7:47
  SPEAKER_01: Especially, I just think there's a there's a big enough distinction between her in the rest of the top call-out here, where even being a little bit harder, she was she was fine.
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_01: Um, in another lineup or with another judging panel, who knows?
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_01: That could be immediately just too hard, and you're not gonna win that show.
• 8:01
  SPEAKER_01: But for here, it works for her really well.
• 8:03
  SPEAKER_01: Um Alice is getting bit by bit better each show, I feel like.
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_01: Um she's she wasn't as tight the last couple shows.
• 8:11
  SPEAKER_01: It's coming in a lot more.
• 8:13
  SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah, this is uh overall another really good uh top call out here, all the way down to sixth place.
• 8:19
  SPEAKER_01: That's a killer back pose.
• 8:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think, and I think as well, yeah, it was kind of three-straight.
• 8:23
  SPEAKER_00: Straight through.
• 8:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, straight through.
• 8:25
  SPEAKER_00: So okay, and then we had Dominican Republic.
• 8:31
  SPEAKER_00: This was a very hard lineup, I think.
• 8:33
  SPEAKER_00: I think everyone complemented each other very, very well.
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_00: Um this was an impressive lineup, though.
• 8:39
  SPEAKER_00: Really, really impressive, like a lot of muscle, and um in this lineup for sure.
• 8:44
  SPEAKER_00: Roxy looked amazing.
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_01: Really?
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_00: Really, really good, yeah.
• 8:49
  SPEAKER_00: She's really like each show she's in, because how many shows has she done now?
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_01: I think she started in I think she started in Mexico, which would have given her Mexico to San Diego to Gold's Classic and here.
• 9:03
  SPEAKER_01: So four shows now in the last like month, month and a half.
• 9:06
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, yeah, she I feel like she's really improved each show.
• 9:11
  SPEAKER_00: So she did, yeah, the first one she did to now like has improved a ridiculous amount.
• 9:16
  SPEAKER_00: So I think it's good.
• 9:18
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think she's hitting her front pose completely.
• 9:20
  SPEAKER_00: And this that was my only thing.
• 9:20
  SPEAKER_00: I would be like, oh, maybe relax this arm, but I don't think she's gonna be able to get a little bit of hitting her front pose.
• 9:25
  SPEAKER_01: Um her back pose is incredible too.
• 9:29
  SPEAKER_01: Her back pose stood out a lot in this lineup.
• 9:30
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I think that's what it was as well.
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_00: I think for me, I was like, Yeah, her back pose is the one thing that won it for me.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_00: Um because she just you can see she has that depth, um, and it's not just all conditioning.
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_00: So I yeah, I think this was a lot a lot better, and you can see the the density coming from the back and stuff like that as well.
• 9:48
  SPEAKER_00: And again, it was another 369.
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_01: Go back to the front.
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_01: So Adriana, as always, I feel like has like an incredible silhouette, and I think that they're doing really, really good at like slowly bringing down the hardness to like the shoulders and the quads a bit.
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I just think that she might be a tricky one because when you look at the front pose being a little bit harder, you look at the back pose, it's not tight enough.
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_01: So it's one of those tricky, um, like tricky situations where obviously more glute depth over time.
• 10:19
  SPEAKER_01: She needs more density there.
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but she's getting better and better.
• 10:22
  SPEAKER_01: Like she's a she's a very, very good competitor, could win just about any show she does.
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just uh I'm I'm excited to see at the Olympia, hopefully, her with like a hundred percent package, like what she was bringing last year, where she wasn't too hard, everything was meshing really well.
• 10:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think as well with her front pose, I again she looks like she's fully in her front pose here.
• 10:43
  SPEAKER_00: I think she's probably flaring a little too much, but then that gives her a really nice shape.
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_00: So it's kind of like like you said, if she brings down that hardness in the upper body, she can flare without it looking too much.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_00: Because in my hair, I see a lot, like you can even see her tricep from the front here.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_00: Do you know what I mean?
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_00: Like you see her tricep, her like everything from from the front.
• 11:03
  SPEAKER_00: So it's just like she could probably just literally have the arm hanging there at this point and just have the latter versus having all of that flared.
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_00: Same with this girl here.
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_00: She doesn't need to be straightening out the arm.
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_00: And even here, if I'm honest, everyone's kind of flaring quite big here, if I'm honest.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_00: I think I think I was just about to say Rainer actually probably she's flaring, but it doesn't look as flexed, in my opinion.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it still is quite flexed, but like less than everyone else.
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_00: But everyone's flaring quite a lot here to create that shape.
• 11:35
  SPEAKER_00: Um I'll be done soon.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_00: Which is interesting.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_00: Which is interesting because I feel like in um in the recent shows that I've been seeing, I've been seeing kind of a little bit more of a trend where people have kind of been flaring a little bit more.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe I've even seen it in a few national shows as well.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_00: Some of the girls have been flaring like the upper bodies more um to create that S-curve shape if they don't have it, which I think it's a slippery slope that's like.
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_00: It's not a good trend.
• 12:01
  SPEAKER_00: No, it's a slippery slope because then it's like within, like we said before, we you're trying to create the shape and it doesn't look natural.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_00: Whereas yeah, you need to.
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_01: And then let's say you get far, let's say a year or two down the road, you have created that shape.
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_01: Now you are trying to undo bad habits.
• 12:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_01: So just take the time to get there without having to force it.
• 12:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_00: My opinion, I would say the arm could probably be like where Rainer is, I think this is like a really nice amount, but like she could probably just relax her arm a little bit more because she has the lat development.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_00: I think what people think is like they need to flare the lat and the arm like really, really far out to like create that shape.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_00: Once you have the lat flare, you can just kind of let your arm hang down.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_00: I personally feel like, because then the the lat's gonna do the work for you in creating that shape.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_01: Um, that's exactly what I was saying about you, Lorely, and Jazzy's front pose when we were talking about them last week during like predictions.
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_01: That's what I like so much about your guys' front poses, is you have that when you hit that front pose, there's that tiny bit of like not even push, but that little bit of like, I'm not gonna force my delt out because I have it built enough where everything can just naturally drop down, relax.
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_01: Nothing looks forced, and you're letting the actual shape um be what's projecting on stage rather than you forcing any muscle groups out.
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_01: So I I that's my favoritism towards a front pose.
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but then also equally, if you need to show that off in terms of like if you don't have enough muscle, then that's completely fair enough.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_00: Like if you need to show off the muscle, then obviously flare, like that's fine, but it's knowing the line.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_00: It's knowing the line.
• 13:34
  SPEAKER_00: Um so and then we've got what was it?
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_00: San Antonio.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_00: San Antonio, San Antonio.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_01: Savannah, Ellie, Raina.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, this was uh Raina's tan was a little bit off in this show.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_01: I was watching the live stream and I was talking to some people there in person too.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_01: I think it threw off her look a lot.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_01: She was a lot lighter in person and on camera than everybody, like by a large margin.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and it really threw off the depth of her back pose because of that, because we know she has an insane back pose, like a top 10 in the world back pose.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and it threw off her back pose entirely.
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_01: Um, Savannah looked great.
• 14:11
  SPEAKER_01: Um, when Savannah's thing is when she can nail her core, she's 100% on and can win mo shows.
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_01: That's always her thing is nailing her front pose down and having that torso in control.
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_01: And it was here, and she killed it.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_01: Ellie was definitely on the harder side here.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and you can obviously see it through the quads, through the core, through the glutes, the delts, but overall, shape-wise, I think that her shape and just how everyone after her was uh was quite a bit off.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I think that's what carried her all the way up into second place here.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_00: And then we've got Kate here in um fifth, and I remember she said, um, she's mentioned in her story as well that she because she just she didn't plan on doing this show.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_00: She was like, we'll see what happens, like if we need to, like if we're gonna do the show or not.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_00: She wasn't planning on doing it.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_00: So um, but she got the time off work.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_00: She didn't realise it was obviously in Texas as well, which is where she's staying, um, before Olympia.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_00: So she was kind of like, well, let's see if I can get the time off work and let's do it.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_00: And again, as international athletes, it's kind of hard because we've got to make each moment count.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_00: Like if there's a show available and for us to do it, especially in the US, if we're there, it's like, why not?
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_00: You know?
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so I think she she was like, Let's just do it, let's see if we can get some points and stuff like that.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_00: And I know she again she mentioned on her story, she wasn't 100% happy, but she also knows she wasn't 100% where she wanted to be anyway, going to the show.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so she's excited to kind of improve two weeks from now going into the Olympia, which is cool.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_00: So, and they're all the same facing front pose, which is so funny.
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_00: Apart from six.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, Kate was definitely off a bit here.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I saw her and her husband posted like a before and after like the show pictures to like two days later, her glutes came up a lot and like filled out.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_01: But this was this showing was not Kate at all.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_01: Like the her glutes were very, very down in the back pose, her front pose looked very soft.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but seeing what they posted a couple days later definitely like brought her back to life.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, I think as well, it was um again, it's just long like she had a long travel, like all the travel that she had, I think.
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_01: Come from a crossing literal furthest part of the entire way.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, on Wednesday, I think she came, she traveled or Tuesday or something like that.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_00: She landed on Tuesday or whatever.
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I I can't even imagine traveling that far and then doing a show even that same week.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_01: Like for me, it like takes me a good while to get like they had to drive after that because they flew they flew into Dallas and then San Antonio's four hours away.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my goodness, yeah.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_01: So they landed, they landed, set up shop for like a day or two, and then drove four hours.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_01: So it's that was a lot on the body.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_00: And to be fair, the points were like quite close from what it looks like.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_00: It was like three, six, nine, ten.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_00: No, three, six, ten.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_01: One, two is solid, then you have a ten, twelve, fourteen.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_01: So three, four, five were kind of tossed around.
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_00: So and then was that it?
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_00: That's not it, surely.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_00: There was another show with that, wasn't there?
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_01: One I thought that was it.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_01: Two uh three.
• 17:22
  SPEAKER_01: No, that was five.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that is it.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_01: That's five.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that is five.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_00: Alright, for me to speak about this.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_00: I love this photo of everyone.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_00: Like all the well, not everyone, but like the the the girls.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it made me laugh because everyone's like, it's just it's just it's cool to kind of see like everyone coming together and like their own personalities kind of showing through this.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like it's cool to see this.
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_00: Because like they've picked photos of the case.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_00: I almost them.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_01: I had like two opinions on this topic when it first got posted, where I came around to liking it because I was like, you know what?
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_01: It's meant to be a media page, right?
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_01: Like, this is just like if we're turning on the news to like look at something being hyped up.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_01: At first, I was like, why would someone post something that takes away from every other person in the Olympia?
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_01: That takes away from Phoebe, from Maria, from girls that could beat the people sitting here in this photo.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_01: Like, there's no reason like someone couldn't be off here, or you, Maria, whoever couldn't have made enough improvements to hop Issa or hop Ashley or whatever it may be, right?
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_01: So that was my initial thought when I saw this.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_01: And that was like, you know what?
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_01: It's a media page for a reason.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_01: Like they're there to create hype, and obviously these are the contenders that are being talked about the most because Issa came out and won four shows this year, and she's a previous Miss Olympia, Jassy's top three in the world, Ashland's top two in the world, Ashley is Ashley, right?
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_01: So, like I get why they did it after I thought about it for a minute, but my initial reaction was like, well, this is fucked.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, and I think even so it's hard because I think as an athlete going to the Olympia, because um I want to speak about quickly about the what's it called?
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_00: Um like obviously going to the Olympia, and obviously everyone knows I think now, but there's no meet the Olympians obviously this year for everyone, so it's obviously invite only.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_00: Which I had two suggestions kind of about that.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_00: I was kind of like at first, you know, I understand that you know, there's a lot of athletes this year.
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_00: There's a lot of people going um in each category, like trying to manage that.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_00: Even people said last year, last year's Olympia was crazy at Meet the Olympians because it was so many people, um, it was just hard to manage and all that type of thing.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_00: And I thought, okay, I understand that.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_00: I think on the other hand, I was disappointed because that's kind of our only time to, as other obviously other contenders of the Olympia, to kind of meet fans or just everyone in general, like to meet the fans, enjoy the moments, like all that type of thing.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_00: So I think there were two mixed emotions about that.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_00: So it's very similar, similar emotions to looking at the post, but also you have to understand at the best shows in the world, like that's what's gonna happen.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, like I do it's so hard because I think that's what I sometimes then stru I struggle with, but also don't because like that's not a bad thing.
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_00: Like you're you're you're yes, you are coming up, you know, you're a coming up an up-and-coming athlete, but you also know that there are other athletes as well that have done the exact same with you.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_00: They've got titles, they've got other things, and they are going to be promoted for that sport, and that's okay.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think that's a bad thing, but I do think it's hard sometimes seeing it as an uph another uh as an other athlete, you know.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_01: Um I mean my take on it is uh and I don't even I haven't looked to see who was all invited to it.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_01: I'm very blunt about it.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think they've announced who's announced who's invited to it.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_01: Um I think that there's a there's fans of everybody is the thing, right?
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_01: There it just because someone's Miss Olympia or it's someone's first Olympia or you're Ashley Kay and you have like 60 wins, doesn't mean that you share the same fan base.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_01: Everybody wants an opportunity to meet the person that they are there for or that they're coming to the Olympia for.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_01: So my ad anyone that has trained with me or trains with me knows that I also take on a slight role of like PR manager.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_01: And so almost every girl that I have, um, they've expressed this to me like, oh, I'm it's my first Olympia, I'm flying in from international, or um, oh, I wanted I had a bunch of people, like I had t-shirts being made, and I told them, I was like, okay, who sponsors you?
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_01: Do they have a booth at the show?
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_01: You're gonna talk to the manager that you like your athlete manager and tell them that you want a one-hour time slot on Friday.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_01: Nothing more than that because you don't need to be on your feet that long the day before the show, but one hour time slot on Friday, sometime like mid to late morning, right after the expo opens, and you're going to make a post talking to the camera, letting everyone know that you're gonna be at this booth from 10 a.m.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_01: to 11 a.m.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_01: on that Friday for a meet and greet.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_01: Then you can do your signed photos, your t shirts, whatever.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_01: And your sponsor benefits like crazy because you're gonna form a line, even if it's not for that booth specifically, like people don't like Kerrigan's doing it at the Bolt Fitness booth, the equipment company.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_01: And um, it's like a lot of people likely won't like hop on the machines and do shit because they're there for Kerrigan, but it's still going to attract attention.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_01: Like, why does this booth have 50 people waiting at it?
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_01: So um that do if anyone that's listening that's an Olympic in this year, if you're not invited to that superstar party, do that.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_01: If you have a sponsor that has a booth, talk to the sponsor about doing a 30-minute to one hour window, whatever you're comfortable with doing, on that Friday, and announce that you're going to be there and collaborated with the company so you get like all of that engagement and views so people know where you'll be.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_01: Um, Kerrigan got like, when people started realizing that the meet and greet wasn't happening this year, I swear to you, she showed me she had 80 to 90 plus DMs of people being like, where could I meet you?
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_01: I wanted to get a picture with you.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_01: And so that's when I started thinking more of like doing that.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_01: I was trying to, I talked to you about this and a few others.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_01: I was trying to do like a meet and greet setup at New Tech Gym when I found out about the superstar party.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_01: And I talked with the owners of New Tech, everything was rolling good, but um, thinking of like timing-wise with that Thursday already having athlete check-ins at three, superstar party after that, and then obviously that morning, people wanting to lift.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_01: If we threw 200 Olympians in there and said, hey, come for a meet and greet all of the fans and people that are there, like no one's even gonna be able to lift.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_01: And that's one of the main gyms people want to lift at.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_01: It's just a lot.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_01: It's a lot.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_00: It's a lot on Thursday as well.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_00: Like, Thursday's already quite a busy day for a lot of people as well.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_00: Um, especially the Olympians.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_00: But I think obviously speaking to like other people and stuff like that, like I don't think like, and I like what you said about obviously like getting in contact with your sponsors and obviously go and do your own thing and stuff like that.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_00: Like, don't let it take away from your experience because I do feel like um it's hard when stuff like that happens, when it's like unannounced, you don't know what's going on.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_00: And don't get me wrong, still go to the the the superstar kind of like party and like have a little mingle.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_00: Obviously, because you don't want to be on your feet walking around all like day, so try and obviously make sure that you focus on you and like do what you need to do is right, like what's right for you, obviously for show day and stuff like that.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but still enjoy your time there because like you've worked so hard to get to this positioning and like don't let anything be taken away from you, you know.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so yeah.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_00: Um let's go back to but no, I the reason I like this photo is because it shows everyone's personality.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_00: Do you know what I mean?
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_00: Like I agree, I love it because I love like because this is so Maureen, like just is this is just Maureen's vibe.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_00: Like Amy's loving her glasses and stuff like that at the moment.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_00: There was a couple people being like, Why did you do Jazzy like so dirty and she's not glammed up?
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_00: But like it's jazz-y?
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's what I mean.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like Jazzy, don't get me wrong, Jazzy wears makeup.
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_00: Obviously, it's not like, but Jazzy's so real.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I'm not saying people wearing makeup aren't real, but do you know what I mean?
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's it just shows like each photo.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_00: I personally feel like I was like, I'll just go.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_01: Jazzy is the definition of the personality of I don't give a fuck, I'm just here to do me.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_01: Like she doesn't care if her makeup is on for a photo, she doesn't care if she like isn't isn't on her front post side for a photo with a fan.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_01: She's like, all right, take the photo with like she doesn't care about that stuff, like she's just herself out there to have a good time.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so I I'd like that's that's the reason I brought up because I like all the photos that were chosen at the moment, so it was cool.
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_00: Um okay, so we've got the two shows this weekend.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_00: So we've got Ashley Kay, we've got Jess, we've got Brie Wilson, we've got Roxy coming in.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_00: Um, we have Oh Eureka.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_00: Eureka.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_00: We've got Eureka.
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_00: Is that different girl?
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_00: Nope.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_00: Wrong.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I've actually used to Yuri.
• 25:47
  SPEAKER_00: I've used to pose her.
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_00: I thought that was Eureka then.
• 25:49
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, wait, is she competing?
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_01: I looked for a second, thought so too, and I was like, oh never mind, no.
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, I've I I used to I've used to pose Yuri actually.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_00: She's uh she's a master competitor, so she's qualified for the Masters Olympia, I think, 2027.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_00: Or she competed at the last Masters Olympia.
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_01: Um and then you got Emmy in here.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Sheena Martin, Sheena, Gemma, Julia again, Emmy, who has just had a baby, I want to say, like what, seven, eight months ago?
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I want to actually like point out because No, no, different, different.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_00: No, there is is she doing no that's Emmy person.
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_00: Is Emmy Schwartz my brain?
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_00: She she No, you're good.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_01: Emmy's looking crazy though.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, she posted that.
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_00: I thought so that's that's why I kept on looking.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_01: She's that would have made sense though, too, because she lives here too.
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_01: So I totally get the confusion there.
• 26:41
  SPEAKER_01: Like she lives next to this show.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_00: I also thought she was doing it.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_00: I was literally like, oh my god, she's not she.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_01: Um, she looked crazy in that in that side by side, in that in the front post she was posting, looked amazing.
• 26:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, she looks incredible.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_00: And then we've got Daria Keaton Hunton, Daria, Cindy, who just got fourth.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_01: This is a very stacked show with girls that have been on like that bottom end of first call out.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_01: A lot of like four, five, six places where they could all move up a lot here.
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_01: So I like this a lot.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_00: I'm excited for this.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, then we've got my posing client here.
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_00: This is her pro debut.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_00: She just won her pro card recently in the previous show.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_00: What show that what was the show that just had a couple of years?
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_00: North Americans?
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_00: North Americans, yeah.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_00: She just did have a pop right into a pro show, shit.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, she kind of she said to me, should I do a pro she was like, I think we're gonna do a pro show.
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I was like, why not?
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_00: Like, she's um coached by Shelby Pierce, and yeah, like click her page, let's look at her.
• 27:37
  SPEAKER_01: She's right there in the comments.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_00: You could get feedback straight away from judges next to people like Ashik, Jess, like all these, all these other girls, like you may as well give it a try.
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and this is definitely the best she used to looks as well.
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_00: And she said her body feels fresh, and I think again, it always comes down to if you feel good, do it.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_00: Why not give yourself some time, like and time up there and just compete, you know?
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_01: Look at that posing flow.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_00: I know.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_00: I wonder, I wonder who posed her.
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_00: So, but I think she knows she knows probably what she ultimately needs to work on and stuff like that overall.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but it's again, why not get the feedback, especially from um being next to people straight away, you know?
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_00: Um okay, and then this this is a I haven't even looked at these yet.
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_01: This is new to me.
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_01: I haven't seen this.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_00: So we've got Golsha, who she's not competed uh.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_01: That's been a minute.
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_00: She competed this.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_00: Did she compete this year?
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_00: She can she did compete this year, but I know she wasn't looking 100% her bounce.
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_01: I haven't seen her name on a list in a while.
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_00: We've got Alice.
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_01: Alice back up there.
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_00: Who's this girl?
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not too sure.
• 28:51
  SPEAKER_01: Alina?
• 28:52
  SPEAKER_00: Alina is um I'm not too sure who that is, I can't remember.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_00: And then we've got Sarah, Alessia, Octavia Irene.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_01: Irene.
• 29:05
  SPEAKER_01: I'm surprised to see Alessia on in the show.
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe testing her look or getting a warm up before Olympia because she's not.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_01: She told me she's retiring after this Olympia.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_01: So I was interested she's doing this show, but maybe making the Olympia made her add another year to her retirement.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know, but I mean Gosha looks obviously.
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know when yeah, she looks.
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, she looks tight.
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_01: You know, like She's been to the Olympia a couple of times, right?
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_00: I think she's been once, if I'm not mistaken.
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, she's been once, I think.
• 29:39
  SPEAKER_00: Um but this is what she looked like when she did Portugal last year.
• 29:44
  SPEAKER_00: I think this is when she I think sh this is when she beat Evie, if I'm not mistaken.
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_00: This was a show that she um placed ahead of Evie once, I think.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_00: And then this was her Olympia luck.
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, she's definitely improved since since then.
• 30:05
  SPEAKER_00: She is the front runner, she's from Turkey as well.
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_00: Um so she's the front runner kind of going into this, and then you've got the likes of, like we said before, Alice Elena.
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, we s we we we um spoke about her last week.
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_00: I think she did a show this past week as well, if I'm not mistaken.
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_00: Um I'm pretty sure, yeah, she did a show this weekend.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_00: Okay I think she did the what was the show that just happened?
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_00: My brain honestly is clocking off right now.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_01: Um there were so many overseas.
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_00: Europa.
• 30:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's what she did.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_00: Um and then who else have you got?
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_00: And then you've got Octavia, the North like there's quite a few European girls.
• 30:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Octavia just did a show two weeks ago, I think, right?
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_00: Irene yes, and then Irene is actually going to the Olympia as well.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_00: So she's 10 days before the Olympia is like she's she has run this whole season.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I've got to give props to a lot of the girls that have been competing all year, like Savannah, Irene, like Brie Wilson, like Jess, like they've been competing literally since April, all the way through.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_00: And I actually think Irene's gonna be a little bit more than a lot.
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_01: That's what got them all into the Olympia, honestly.
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_01: Like Bree Brie and Irene doing as many shows as they did is how they got to the Olympia because they stayed consistent and they were in that top five, and they got themselves enough points to give it up on the board.
• 31:30
  SPEAKER_01: So I mean, they the consistency was killer through the year.
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_01: It's just a long season.
• 31:35
  SPEAKER_00: It's a it's a long season, but like it's so hard because it's like when do you say like this is a conversation that we obviously spoke about before, like, when do you feel like it's not worth it in terms of like what's yeah, what's like what do you then kind of when where do you see yourself of okay, this isn't this isn't working anymore, or like should I stop?
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's so hard because it's like when you are consistently getting in that top five, top six range, which both those goals were, it's like, okay, when do I stop?
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I'm just seeing when her first show was.
• 32:05
  SPEAKER_00: I think honestly, she was competing before.
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I think Irene was going from post- I would say post-Olympia last year.
• 32:15
  SPEAKER_01: She was in like the fall winter last year.
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_01: She's been going ever since.
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_00: She she did Romania with um she did Romania last year.
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_00: She did Jazzy in Romania.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_00: No, um Jazzy was in Romania watching, but this is um the Spain show that Jazzy did.
• 32:32
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
• 32:32
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I think she got top four of that, but she's been going for a minute.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_01: Down.
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_01: She had like little, like didn't compete for like four.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_01: That's crazy.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_01: I remember she like there was like a month off here and there.
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_01: Like, obviously, January, not a lot of shows, but she never took like in off time.
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_01: Like she was just in prep the whole time.
• 32:51
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, and she she looked and felt great when I talked to her at the Houston show.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_01: She got fourth there or third there, and she was the sweetest person and super just like energetic and everything.
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_01: She didn't look run down or anything like that.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_01: She looked like she was ready to keep going.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_00: So well, it would that was November, December, and then you've got I think she did another one December the week after that, which was Battle of the Bay.
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_00: And then I wanna because I I'm looking because I want to see what always in the top five, too.
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_01: That's crazy.
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I want to see what her first show was this year.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_00: That's why I'm looking.
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, when was her first show this year?
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_00: Because I'm pretty sure April, yeah.
• 33:30
  SPEAKER_00: So she did November, December, and then I'm guessing this was her first show.
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_00: April, and she's been going since April.
• 33:35
  SPEAKER_01: That's crazy.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_00: Fifth of April, so it's like early, early April as well.
• 33:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, crazy, and then she's been going since then.
• 33:41
  SPEAKER_00: So Damn.
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, pretty crazy.
• 33:45
  SPEAKER_00: But that's that honestly, that's what it takes.
• 33:47
  SPEAKER_00: And I think I think people were I know people they weren't upset when I I think upset's the wrong word, but like people were oh top, it's top 20 now and not top 25.
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_00: And I think people were kind of like, oh, it's hard, like, oh, it's harder now, which yes.
• 34:04
  SPEAKER_01: I loved that change.
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_01: We what we were talking about wanted it harder.
• 34:07
  SPEAKER_00: That's the whole point, but I think it then, like we said before, it then kind of gets to the point, it's like, okay, what do we then do?
• 34:15
  SPEAKER_00: Like, Irene, obviously, you know, hopefully this year her next goal could potentially be okay.
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_00: Last year I ran it quite a lot, and I did, you know, a lot of shows from all the way the end of the year, all the way to the end of the year again.
• 34:27
  SPEAKER_00: What do I need to do differently to maybe get better and can take time off?
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_00: Potentially less, take time off.
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_00: So it's then you you reassess, and it's the same with Brie and Savannah and whoever, you're like, okay, cool, what can I do to change what I what how the season went this year, and how can I improve, not even just my look, but just obviously how the season went and me doing less um in a sense.
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_00: So and I think it's hard because I don't think people realize how tough it is actually is.
• 34:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, 100%.
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_01: I I still think, and I I I hope it they do this in the future, Tyler.
• 35:03
  SPEAKER_01: Please.
• 35:04
  SPEAKER_01: Um, Olympia prerequisite for being on that top 20 list should be you have to win one show.
• 35:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 35:10
  SPEAKER_01: I've come around to that, especially after you and I talked and you and Max were talking about it.
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I I think that like one win should be the prerequisite, then you start gaining points on the points list.
• 35:23
  SPEAKER_01: So, like, if all the girls that are in like that got fifth, got third, got second, their points are here waiting for them, but they need to get a win before that counts.
• 35:31
  SPEAKER_01: Like, you need to get a win before you're on the list.
• 35:34
  SPEAKER_01: That's what I think it needs to be.
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_01: It's the Olympia.
• 35:36
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I've come around to this idea a lot.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_01: I was tossing it around like all season in my head where I was like, like, because I have I think I have one person.
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_01: I have one person out of I have 15 Olympians this year.
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_01: One girl made it on points, the rest made it on winning.
• 35:52
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like tossing it around.
• 35:54
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, you know, it really should be a win.
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_01: And the reason I bring that up is because I'm not being biased about it.
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I have a girl that wouldn't have made the Olympia this year, that means.
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_01: But regardless, um, I think that a win should be a prerequisite for it.
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_01: Just because it's the pinnacle bodybuilding show.
• 36:09
  SPEAKER_01: It's like that's that's what separates you.
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_01: It's not just the fact that you can compete a lot.
• 36:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 36:15
  SPEAKER_01: So just my take on it.
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_00: That's fair.
• 36:18
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that's I think that's completely fair.
• 36:19
  SPEAKER_00: And I think they are kind of like, again, doing small little things here and there to be able to adjust it to make it more prestigious, more prestigious every single year.
• 36:29
  SPEAKER_00: So right.
• 36:32
  SPEAKER_00: Did you want to go through what were the questions that you had?
• 36:35
  SPEAKER_01: Did we uh we looked at Bo shows?
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_01: Bo show lists?
• 36:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we did.
• 36:39
  SPEAKER_01: We did.
• 36:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 36:40
  SPEAKER_01: Um I sent you one and I gotta find it because your fucking SIM card keeps it bouncing around.
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_01: Sometimes your your email is what's texting me, and sometimes your phone number's what's texting me.
• 36:50
  SPEAKER_00: Sorry.
• 36:50
  SPEAKER_00: Uh you said difference in different in heels versus uh difference in strapless heels versus straps.
• 36:57
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, that was a question I got.
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_01: I don't Okay, whoever sent me that, just send that shit to Phoebe, because like I'm not answering that.
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_01: I don't fucking know.
• 37:04
  SPEAKER_00: In my opinion, in my opinion, I prefer straps because I just feel strapped in and I don't have to like think about like my toes slipping down or anything like that.
• 37:14
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just in.
• 37:14
  SPEAKER_01: But because what would be the reason that someone what's the reason that they even make one without a strap?
• 37:21
  SPEAKER_01: Like, why would someone choose one that is strapless?
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like it can make their legs look longer.
• 37:26
  SPEAKER_00: So like someone for shorter, for example, like it will like obviously the strap obviously goes around what your ankle, something like that.
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes that can it, I mean, it doesn't I personally don't think it cuts it off, but if you already are lacking in length anyway, if you are a shorter competitor, sometimes obviously having straps, again, that's not a given, like it's just sometimes an illusion thing, I personally feel like so it can make your legs just look a little bit longer if you don't have the straps, but also equally it depends what you feel comfortable posing in because there's both options.
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_00: Do you know what I mean?
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's not like I feel more comfortable posing with a strap because I don't have to think about like gripping my feet into my like shoes.
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_00: Um and it just feels they just feel good posing in.
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but then some people are like, oh my god, I can absolutely not wear a strap because I feel something on my ankle and it feels like just too like on my foot.
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, okay.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_00: Makes sense.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_00: So everyone's different, everyone's completely different.
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_00: You did send another one over, I think, but I don't know.
• 38:26
  SPEAKER_01: Scroll and look.
• 38:27
  SPEAKER_01: Scrolling a lot of complaining.
• 38:35
  SPEAKER_00: We just go back and forth, back and forth.
• 38:38
  SPEAKER_00: Me being like complaining.
• 38:41
  SPEAKER_00: I think that was it, if I'm honest.
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that might have been a lot.
• 38:44
  SPEAKER_00: That was the only one.
• 38:45
  SPEAKER_00: So send over your questions, guys.
• 38:47
  SPEAKER_00: We love to see that you everyone commented, like so many people commented on the last um the last one of us doing.
• 38:57
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, speaking of that, the predictions.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_01: Um I can't remember, I didn't listen to it back, but um, did I forget Sally?
• 39:04
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 39:05
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, did I have her in my 15?
• 39:06
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, good.
• 39:07
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 39:07
  SPEAKER_01: Because after after we got off, I was like scrolling Instagram and I was like, I just came across Sally's page.
• 39:12
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, oh shit, did I forget Sally, my top 15 predictions?
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_01: Like, no way I did.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_01: No way.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_01: You're like, no, did I?
• 39:18
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, I was gonna amend that a little bit, but okay, we're good.
• 39:20
  SPEAKER_01: I still have it even after shows this weekend, I still have it the exact same.
• 39:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think it's gonna be it's gonna be really cool, and I'm I'm excited to kind of see how everyone's again coming in, everyone's starting to kind of like obviously there's people now that are competing at the Olympia that have just recently competed, and it's like it's cool because they can get their data on improving coming in for the Olympia.
• 39:44
  SPEAKER_00: Like Kate already improved, Raina, I'm sure she's already gonna kind of like do a few things to improve.
• 39:48
  SPEAKER_00: Like there's it's just cool to see it all happening now.
• 39:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah so yeah, it's gonna be cool.
• 39:52
  SPEAKER_01: You know who's gonna be a little bit of a, and this is insane to say the word dark horse with her, but you know who's gonna be like uh underrated in the top positions is Ashley.
• 40:02
  SPEAKER_01: The way that she has been training lately has been ramped.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_01: Ashley Kay.
• 40:07
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, she's ramped her training the fuck up.
• 40:11
  SPEAKER_01: Like we through the season, we were seeing like, especially at the Arnold, we saw like a thinner, more conditioned, not as muscular Ashley in every show after that, like at Indy, she was off and she just didn't have like that like Ashley wow factor when like with certain things, like her glute density and that pop and that perfect balance that you see on her.
• 40:32
  SPEAKER_01: But the last like six to eight weeks, whenever um like some posts come across, or I see her stories, I was texting her a couple days ago about a few things, and I've just seen her like ramping her shit up.
• 40:46
  SPEAKER_01: Like she's training harder, she's pushing harder, she's moving more weight.
• 40:50
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I'm really interested to see what that brings to the stage in Sasquash this weekend because I think we will kind of see a revamped Ashley.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_01: And the same thing happened with her two or three Olympias ago when no one was really talking about her a lot in their like top three to four.
• 41:06
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and then out of nowhere, she stepped on stage and I was like, holy shit, and I think she got third that year.
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, Whoa, that's like the best Ashley we've seen in a couple years.
• 41:15
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm interested to see if that happens again, this Olympia, because the way she's been training has really been ramped up.
• 41:22
  SPEAKER_01: Because I remember like she hit a point in her career where you'd see some of her um some of her training videos, and I'm like, okay, I know that you have the muscle developed already, but like, what what are these fucking five-pound weights removing girls?
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_01: Like, what are you doing here?
• 41:35
  SPEAKER_01: And now looking at her videos, I'm like, oh, you're fucking pushing, pushing.
• 41:38
  SPEAKER_01: So we'll we'll see what she looks like this weekend.
• 41:41
  SPEAKER_01: I'm excited.
• 41:41
  SPEAKER_00: That's cool.
• 41:42
  SPEAKER_00: That's and that's I think that's it as well.
• 41:44
  SPEAKER_00: And that's what I'm really liking about bikini recently, like not recently, but like the last kind of two, three years, I say two years more so.
• 41:51
  SPEAKER_00: Like us bikini girls, we're training, like we're taking training seriously, which I'm not saying that we didn't beforehand, but I think people are so much more specific with their training now because they know how much of a difference it makes.
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_00: Like it really does make a huge, huge difference.
• 42:06
  SPEAKER_00: So I think which and people know that anyway, but I think previously before they're like, oh bikini, you know, just gotta chuck a couple weights around and just do a bit of pump and that's it.
• 42:15
  SPEAKER_00: And you're like, no, like these girls have to hold their density with having that like condition that they want from us.
• 42:22
  SPEAKER_00: It's tough.
• 42:23
  SPEAKER_01: So I train I train every single division.
• 42:26
  SPEAKER_01: I have Olympians across four divisions this year.
• 42:28
  SPEAKER_01: Bikini is the most specific training out of anyone that I have on my entire roster.
• 42:34
  SPEAKER_01: Like, yeah, bar none.
• 42:35
  SPEAKER_01: Like, fit models up there as well, just because there's a very blurred line of going too far.
• 42:39
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but bikini is 100% like the most detail-oriented training there is.
• 42:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, 100%, 100%.
• 42:46
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 42:47
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you guys always for watching, listening.
• 42:49
  SPEAKER_00: Make sure you like, subscribe, all that type of stuff.
• 42:51
  SPEAKER_00: And then next week we are gonna do, because there's no shows going into Olympia, we're gonna do, we could just probably do to do a fucking huge like episode and go just purely go through.
• 43:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we're doing the whole list next week.
• 43:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, next week we'll do the whole list.
• 43:06
  SPEAKER_00: We're gonna get everyone's Instagrams up, we're gonna get.
• 43:08
  SPEAKER_00: I I'll try and do like chat GPT or I'll figure out like who how each Olympian actually got their qualification so we can kind of see um and stuff like that, what like what shows they won and what shows they placed at and stuff like that, and their best spacings and stuff.
• 43:23
  SPEAKER_00: So we'll try and do that.
• 43:25
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but get excited.
• 43:26
  SPEAKER_00: The Olympia's coming up.
• 43:28
  SPEAKER_00: A week and a half today is nuts, like yeah, absolutely nuts.
• 43:31
  SPEAKER_00: I'm excited for it.
• 43:32
  SPEAKER_00: So almost here.
• 43:33
  SPEAKER_00: I know.
• 43:34
  SPEAKER_00: We'll see you in the next episode.
• 43:35
  SPEAKER_00: When do you get in?
• 43:35
  SPEAKER_01: I'll just talk to you after we stop recording.
• 43:37
  SPEAKER_00: Goodbye, bye guys.