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2096 - 90 Day Fiance (s12e12) "So Help Me God" with Kimberly · Pink Shade: Reality TV with Mary Payne

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to Pink Shade. It is TLC Tuesday.
• 0:18
  Speaker 1: I'm here with Kimberly to talk about ninety day fiancee.
• 0:23
  Speaker 2: Hey girl, Hello, how are you good to see Mary Payne.
• 0:27
  Speaker 1: I don't know what that's about.
• 0:29
  Speaker 2: I don't either. I don't know what the voice was.
• 0:31
  Speaker 2: That was weird. I was channeling someone else, but I
• 0:34
  Speaker 2: don't know who.
• 0:35
  Speaker 1: Okay, make sure all your microphone is set correctly, because
• 0:38
  Speaker 1: two weeks ago it was too loud, and then last
• 0:40
  Speaker 1: week it was too soft.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think my mic I might need a new
• 0:44
  Speaker 3: mic because Katie also.
• 0:45
  Speaker 2: Oh I'm not I right, Mike, now I am there
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  Speaker 2: we go.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's so much better.
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  Speaker 2: So much better. No, I do think my mic I
• 0:54
  Speaker 2: might need a new mic. So join our Patreon I
• 1:00
  Speaker 2: and it's off here.
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  Speaker 3: I yeah, she said that yesterday, and then we recorded
• 1:05
  Speaker 3: our Patreon last night, our live stream, and everyone in
• 1:08
  Speaker 3: the comments was saying I was really quiet, so I
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  Speaker 3: had to turn my volume up.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't know what's happening.
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  Speaker 3: Might need a new mic, might need a new box. No,
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  Speaker 3: no microphone box.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, okay, just making sure. Yeah, I have
• 1:27
  Speaker 1: to tell you that At the end of this episode,
• 1:31
  Speaker 1: Katie reveals that Josh's never gone down on her, to
• 1:37
  Speaker 1: which I say, TLC needs a new storyline, like we cannot.
• 1:42
  Speaker 1: I was like, I can't have two storylines as such.
• 1:46
  Speaker 2: I thought you meant my Katie. Uh oh, sometimes you come.
• 1:53
  Speaker 3: You start our episodes with you accosting us about something
• 1:57
  Speaker 3: we said in our latest day date with dateline, and
• 1:59
  Speaker 3: so that's that's what I thought you were doing. And then,
• 2:01
  Speaker 3: of course Josh, I thought you met Josh Mankowitz because
• 2:04
  Speaker 3: we had texted him in one of our recent episodes
• 2:07
  Speaker 3: while we were recording so I could get his live
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  Speaker 3: on the air Mutton Chops, and so I just had
• 2:15
  Speaker 3: a huge incestuous crossover in my mind. So I'm so
• 2:19
  Speaker 3: relieved you're talking about Katie with the C and I'm fie,
• 2:23
  Speaker 3: let's talk about their oral situation all day long.
• 2:26
  Speaker 2: Compared to my Katies. I don't want to know anything
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  Speaker 2: about that.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no, especially not involving Josh manco It's wow.
• 2:33
  Speaker 2: No, it's like a fatherly figure to us.
• 2:36
  Speaker 1: That's really weird. Conversation has gone in the first two
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  Speaker 1: minutes right downhill.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, this is the the kind of lingus.
• 2:47
  Speaker 1: Time.
• 2:48
  Speaker 3: The era we are in our kind of lingus era
• 2:50
  Speaker 3: of match shart productions. We haven't had too much of
• 2:53
  Speaker 3: that on Love After lock Up. We did have a
• 2:56
  Speaker 3: saggy balls conversation because they were deflated.
• 3:02
  Speaker 1: Oh right, that's true.
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  Speaker 2: A lot that didn't.
• 3:09
  Speaker 1: I didn't want to think about. Well tlc C stands
• 3:11
  Speaker 1: for cuddling us. We're just about sick of that. Well,
• 3:17
  Speaker 1: let's talk about this episode. And there's a lot of
• 3:21
  Speaker 1: good stuff here. I still don't know how many episodes
• 3:25
  Speaker 1: do we usually have twenty, so yeah, somewhere, so we're
• 3:30
  Speaker 1: still we've got a good ways to go here. We
• 3:32
  Speaker 1: still haven't even gotten like the first wedding yet.
• 3:34
  Speaker 3: The real question is how much more hateful can Marissa
• 3:39
  Speaker 3: and Katie be? Is it possible for them to go
• 3:43
  Speaker 3: further down in our estimation because I defended Katie a lot.
• 3:50
  Speaker 2: At the beginning.
• 3:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of tried to defend Marissa, but I
• 3:53
  Speaker 3: really tried to defend Katie. She's despicable, she's really horrible,
• 4:00
  Speaker 3: she's really.
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  Speaker 2: The worst person.
• 4:05
  Speaker 1: She really needs some help. And then this week, I guess,
• 4:08
  Speaker 1: like the National Citizens for OCD or the National Council
• 4:13
  Speaker 1: on OCD came out and was like, she does not
• 4:15
  Speaker 1: represent us, and then she got we don't know her,
• 4:19
  Speaker 1: and she got mad about that, and then Josh got
• 4:21
  Speaker 1: mad about that. Yeah, they both were posting about it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they were offended.
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  Speaker 2: I think the issue is there's nothing wrong with her
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  Speaker 2: saying she has OCD.
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  Speaker 3: It's when she blames her bad behavior on the OCD
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  Speaker 3: when clearly she is an extremely selfish, narcissistic person.
• 4:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's right. And so.
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  Speaker 3: In a way that might be pathological of some sort
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  Speaker 3: of mental illness that I don't want to say, but.
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  Speaker 2: There are several that come to mind. Yeah, right now,
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  Speaker 2: just would he say them?
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  Speaker 1: Mom said you're gonna hurt somebody, and she said, like murder.
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  Speaker 2: That was concerning?
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  Speaker 1: That was that was that was the first thing that
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  Speaker 1: popped in her head.
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  Speaker 3: So the fact that the mom said on TV, I
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  Speaker 3: think he will hopefully make you be a less selfish person,
• 5:16
  Speaker 3: because that's been a character flaw of hers her entire life.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's concerning.
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  Speaker 3: It's awful actually in a religious household, so you know,
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  Speaker 3: they were like beating into her charity, you know, like
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  Speaker 3: the Bible, you know, not being self selfish, and she
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  Speaker 3: is still the complete opposite and so selfish that that
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  Speaker 3: makes you think there's something chemical in her brain, some
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  Speaker 3: sort of synapses or.
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  Speaker 1: It's not great. And it's not great that even with
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  Speaker 1: your grandparents don't like you because they will forgiven.
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  Speaker 2: Your parents and your grandparents.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's rough, but let's don't start with them. Let's
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  Speaker 1: start with Yeah. So this is season twelve, Episode twelve,
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  Speaker 1: Seeking of God. So help Me God is the name
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  Speaker 1: of this episode. I don't know why the name of
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  Speaker 1: this episode is so helped Me God. Maybe we'll find
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  Speaker 1: it as we go through. Somebody says it. Maybe Josh.
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  Speaker 2: Josh is thinking, please help.
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  Speaker 1: Me God, Please help me God. I can't believe I've
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  Speaker 1: moved to be with this person. So we'll start with
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  Speaker 1: Mallory and Rasheet and it's forty two days to wed.
• 6:29
  Speaker 1: I like when they tell us this. So yes, she's
• 6:32
  Speaker 1: gone to look at wedding dresses and she posted today,
• 6:35
  Speaker 1: so I'm like behind the scenes of it, which is
• 6:37
  Speaker 1: cute with Mikayla and Katie, and she says, you know,
• 6:43
  Speaker 1: I'm not like a besize zero sample girl, So I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to this place and I was happy that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: she was happy that they had things in her size
• 6:51
  Speaker 1: that she could buy off the rat because a lot
• 6:52
  Speaker 1: of times, you know, you got to buy something, you
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  Speaker 1: have to wait. And so she was happy about that
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  Speaker 1: and she had a lot of choices. And she doesn't
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  Speaker 1: it looks like a five dollar hore on her wedding day.
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  Speaker 1: She will save that for later. I like. She's like, also,
• 7:05
  Speaker 1: because this family's going to be watching from Turkey and
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  Speaker 1: I definitely don't want them to see me looking like
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  Speaker 1: a five dollar horr. Yeah, she's really cute trying on
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  Speaker 1: the dresses. Even my daughter and her cold black Heart
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  Speaker 1: came through the room and was like, oh, she's so cute,
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  Speaker 1: look at her.
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  Speaker 2: I know, I love Mallory. She's quickly writing to be
• 7:23
  Speaker 2: one of my new favorites.
• 7:25
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm, I think so. So they chat about how
• 7:29
  Speaker 1: things are going. You know, you know now that he
• 7:31
  Speaker 1: got over the thing with Brandon, and she says, well,
• 7:34
  Speaker 1: you know how the pre nup conversation went, and you
• 7:36
  Speaker 1: know that's bad enough, But to be honest, the issue
• 7:39
  Speaker 1: is I need to have a heart to heart with
• 7:41
  Speaker 1: him about something that I've procrastinated about. And you're right,
• 7:44
  Speaker 1: of course, it's the kids, and it's uncomfortable, like so uncomfortable,
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  Speaker 1: like there might not be a wedding, that's how big
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  Speaker 1: the topic is. And their girls are like, what could
• 7:55
  Speaker 1: it be? What could it be? We have no idea
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  Speaker 1: what this is. Possibly is it you mean? Like murder?
• 8:02
  Speaker 1: Like murder? And she says, I'm not sure, you know
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  Speaker 1: if I ever want to have kids, and Michayla goes,
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  Speaker 1: are you serious? You know, because he would have kids
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  Speaker 1: right now? Have you talked to him about this at all?
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  Speaker 1: Is he gonna see this coming now? Mikayla is her
• 8:20
  Speaker 1: best friend in the world, you know that she knows this. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: And she goes, I've never been truly honest with him
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  Speaker 1: about this because I love him so much and I
• 8:31
  Speaker 1: don't want that to be something that would keep us
• 8:33
  Speaker 1: from being with each other. But it sounds like to
• 8:35
  Speaker 1: me that maybe this is a producer driven push, because
• 8:40
  Speaker 1: she's probably like, yeah, in a couple of years, I'll
• 8:43
  Speaker 1: probably be ready, but we've got to just see how
• 8:44
  Speaker 1: the marriage goes first, Right.
• 8:46
  Speaker 3: You know they have to have several conflicts and secrets
• 8:50
  Speaker 3: to get cast on the show, right, you really got
• 8:53
  Speaker 3: to hold something back until the person comes to America.
• 8:56
  Speaker 3: These you're not conversations that can film you having over
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  Speaker 3: the phone.
• 8:59
  Speaker 1: Everything can't be fine now, yeah, yeah, so I'm talking toad.
• 9:04
  Speaker 1: Katie goes, well, they need to talk about this immediately,
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  Speaker 1: and Michayla says he wants kids for sure, like he
• 9:10
  Speaker 1: would have kids tomorrow, so this could be like make
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  Speaker 1: it or break it. I was like, Mikayla, you sure
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  Speaker 1: do know a lot about what rash Sheet wants, but
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  Speaker 1: yet stunned. But it's stunned that she has held this
• 9:21
  Speaker 1: information back. Mallory goes, well, you know my family situation,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't have a good example of a mother, and
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  Speaker 1: what if I turn into her like going out and
• 9:32
  Speaker 1: drinking and bringing guys home. I mean, hopefully you wouldn't
• 9:35
  Speaker 1: do that if you were married. But she says, I
• 9:38
  Speaker 1: would feel like a horrible person, repeating that cycle. And
• 9:41
  Speaker 1: they go but that's not you. You're not that kind
• 9:43
  Speaker 1: of person, and she goes, well, I didn't think my
• 9:44
  Speaker 1: mother was that kind of person. And it's hard because
• 9:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know what a healthy relationship with the parent
• 9:50
  Speaker 1: looks like. I'm afraid I won't break the cycle. And
• 9:53
  Speaker 1: they're like, this is gonna be rough. It's gonna be
• 9:56
  Speaker 1: a hard conversation. I'm glad you're trying on this wedding
• 9:59
  Speaker 1: dress because no man's gonna want to marry you, you
• 10:01
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I think this is interesting about
• 10:06
  Speaker 1: Mallory because we are midway through the season and finding
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  Speaker 1: this out.
• 10:09
  Speaker 3: Right, Well, she has said her friends are her family,
• 10:14
  Speaker 3: and there's something about her dad.
• 10:16
  Speaker 1: That she told me, right, so.
• 10:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, apparently her mom was the five dollar hooker or
• 10:24
  Speaker 3: whatever that she said.
• 10:26
  Speaker 1: And we're talking ed she says, my parents divorced when
• 10:28
  Speaker 1: I was ten. They went their separate ways and eventually
• 10:31
  Speaker 1: started new families, and my sister and I felt like
• 10:35
  Speaker 1: chopped liver. Then my dad kicks me out at eighteen,
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: and after my car accident, he never showed up to
• 10:42
  Speaker 1: visit me at the hospital, Like who does that? And
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: to this day, well since she had this accident last year,
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: he has not seen me.
• 10:50
  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: And it's his sister also. I don't know, I'd like
• 10:53
  Speaker 1: to see the sister. Yeah, but she's cute too, I bet.
• 10:57
  Speaker 2: She I was just thinking that, I bet they're cute.
• 10:59
  Speaker 1: And she said, I'm envious of people with healthy relationships
• 11:02
  Speaker 1: with their parents, and that's why I'm terrified because I
• 11:04
  Speaker 1: don't know anything about it. You know, I wanted to
• 11:07
  Speaker 1: talk to wash Sheet in person about this. I mean,
• 11:10
  Speaker 1: but it could end our relationship. I don't think so.
• 11:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's gonna be fine.
• 11:16
  Speaker 1: So they're at home and she makes them some tea,
• 11:18
  Speaker 1: some Turkish tea, and they sit outside, and he's like,
• 11:21
  Speaker 1: it's not good. She's like, I'm trying. He's like, you're
• 11:24
  Speaker 1: gonna need to learn to make the tea. She's like,
• 11:26
  Speaker 1: this is fine, it's good enough. I'm interested in the
• 11:28
  Speaker 1: teacause the tea's always red. I'm interested in what the
• 11:32
  Speaker 1: tea tastes like. I love a hot tea. You do
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: on the porch like a sun gallow, No, don't drinking
• 11:40
  Speaker 1: hot tea, that's hot, no iced tea on the porch. Well,
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: you would normally drink iced tea on the porch, or
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: you might have a cold cocktail, like a glass of
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: wine with some ice in it, Like a.
• 11:53
  Speaker 2: Lady, what about a mint jew lip?
• 11:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, sure, but you don't need to get so
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: so stereotypical. Yeah, yeah, you know of some water in
• 12:07
  Speaker 1: your stanley is also just fine. Was sitting on the
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: porch is a thing. So he says, so, how was
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: the dress shopping? And she says, I can't tell you
• 12:17
  Speaker 1: how it was. It was a surprise that He's like okay,
• 12:20
  Speaker 1: and she goes, when you see me, you have to
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: like ugly cry, and he goes, no, why do that.
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: She was, You're gonna be like ugly crying when you
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: see me, and he's like, huh, he did not unders
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: and he's like, why will I be crying? And so
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: then she gets serious and says she just kind of
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: looks forlornly to the side, and he says, why is
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: your face like a toilet right now?
• 12:43
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, like a toilet without a bidet akaa,
• 12:49
  Speaker 3: the kind of toilet I hate?
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: Right Like that was funny. I've never heard that. I
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: was like, what could he possibly mean, like your face
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: looks like shit long?
• 12:59
  Speaker 2: Or like oh I was thinking, like yeah, like the
• 13:01
  Speaker 2: face the long.
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: I don't it was.
• 13:05
  Speaker 2: It was strange, Okay, I'm looking it up because it
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: could be one of those Turkish phrases that sarper like
• 13:11
  Speaker 2: we say in Turkey when your face like toilet, your
• 13:14
  Speaker 2: butt and your face give out the poop. I don't know.
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: It's all we always start off good with the Sarpers
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: and then we can never bring it out.
• 13:24
  Speaker 2: That's what, because that's what I feel like.
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: He does.
• 13:27
  Speaker 2: Yes, I said in the second half, why your face.
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: Like a toilet? Right now? What are you finding? Mm hmmm,
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: we're googling on air? Yeah, Mary pain, he can write
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: google things face look like toilet. No, no, it's not
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: a price. It's not a price. No, no, we didn't
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: think it was gonna be. So she says, well, we
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: have some things to discuss, and I'm afraid that this
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: topic is so important that you might not want to
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: marry me. He goes, what, of course, babe, I want
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: to marry you. She says, but okay, what if I
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: said I'm not sure if I want kids ever? And
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: he goes, well, we can you know, I don't know.
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: I don't know what he's like. Is that what you're saying?
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: Or you say, what if I said that you know?
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: And she says, as of right now, I don't want
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: to have a baby because I don't know if I
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: could ever be a good mother. And he goes, oh, Mallorie,
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: why do you think bad all the time? And she goes,
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: I'm not trying to think bad. I'm being realistic, and
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: I'm worried that I do not know how to be
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: a mother because of my childhood. I mean, spoiler alert,
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: nobody knows how to be a mother. They just give
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: you a baby and say good luck. I mean, even
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: if you had a great example of a mother. And
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: I think the best people that know how to be
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: moms from people that like baby said a lot, or
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: did nannying or something, because at least they've got some experience. Yeah,
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• 17:54
  Speaker 1: So the talking Eddie says, I have eight siblings and
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: nineteen nieces and nephews, and I want to be a
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: dad and see my parents be grandparents to the kids.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: And in two years we know everything about each other.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: And now I left Turkey and now she tells me this,
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: and you know, if I would have known, maybe I
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: would not have left Turkey to marry her. That's why
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: she didn't tell you. And he says to her, literally,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: you make me sad. And I think your mind.
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: Will Your toilet seat does not have a bidet attached
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: to it.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: A sad toilet seat, and I think your mind will
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: change in two years. And she goes, but what if
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: my mind doesn't change, would you still want to be
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: with me? And he goes, now, I don't want to
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: talk about this, and she goes, but we have to
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: talk about it, and he says, I really want to
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: have a baby so much, and this is very bullshit
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: and he walks off as I'm talking head, she says,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: you know, if he decides not to get married. He
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: has to go back to Turkey, and I can't imagine
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: my life without him. But he goes off and do
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: his She shed shop. Yeah, yeah, also to be fine.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: It's totally gonna be fine.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: But that she's so worried about, like being a good parent. Yeah,
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: she's gonna be better than her mom.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she just worries about keeping the cycle going. You know,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: she's good.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: That means she's going to break the cycle. She'll work
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: hard to break the cycle.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: I think, I know she's so cute. She des to
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: have children. I would be more interested if she said,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: when I had that horrible accident, I found out I
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: could not have kids because they had to take parts
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: of me out or something. That's kind of what I
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: was thinking where we were going. But no, she's got
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: two feet of and testine remote. So yeah, everything everything
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: else still working. Okay, Thomas and Paula, we had a
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: little scene with them. Let's hear what they have to say.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: Oh, man, I didn't even look at my notes for
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: Mallory and rash and I had funny things written down.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: When you were saying, tell her mom, her mom, go, well,
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: pretend that you're telling talking about your your Mallorie talking
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: about your mom going getting in drunk, going drunk, going
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: going and getting drunk all the time and going out
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: late hard.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, my mom used to go out all
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: the time and get drunk and bring guys home, and
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: I just don't want to do that.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Is her mom, Katie, that was it, But not your Katie. No,
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: Katie with the sea, Yeah, Katie with the sea.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I do worry a little bit about the amount
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: of online hate Katie is getting.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: I worry for her mental health, which is why I
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: tried to defend her so much.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: This week was pretty bad. Let's talk about Thomas and Paula. Okay,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: mm hmm.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: So they are still in the farm with mom and
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: step stepmom and dad. The stepmom Renie is teaching Paula
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: how to plant seeds, and Paula brings up that Rennie
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: was upset about that social media video with the mom,
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: and she said, I didn't want to pick sides, and
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: I have empathy for everything you did for Thomas, and
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: I want to bond with you, but also I kind
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: of wanted to bond with the mom too.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Ye.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: Rinney said, your family's so great, you don't understand how
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: bad it was here. I raised Thomas when he was
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: in the darkest place. So it's a dagger to my
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: heart that Thomas wants to reconnect with his mom, which
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: is fair, but also he's an adult and he may
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: need to feel like he tried with.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's not up to her, but it's it's rough. Yeah.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: So Paula apologizes, and Rinnie says she knows her heart
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: was going a good place and she appreciates Paula clearing
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: the air.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: And that's literally all that happened.
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: Oh no, that's not Meanwhile, Thomas tells dad Tom, there's
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: a Tom and Tom and a Thomas.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: It's God as Tom and usually it would be the opposite.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: I feel like or like this little Tommy, little Tommy.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah Tom tooj. Yeah.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: So he says, Paula wants me to repair everything with
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: the family.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: She wants to.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: She really thinks her crystals can bring everybody together.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: Miniatures will bring everybody together.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: And Tom says, you know, just so you know, in
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: ten years, you won't remember who's who's at your wedding.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: And I was like, that's true.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: For most guests, but I don't feel like that's true
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: for your parents. I don't think I remember if your
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: parents were at your wedding.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: I think if you have like five hundred people at
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: your wedding, you may not remember. But I think if
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: you only have like twenty five thirty people and four
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: of them were your parents, you might remember that. Yes.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So Paul Thomas says, I don't know why you
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: even or Tom says, I don't know why you even
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: wanted to invite your mom, and Thomas tells, you know
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: the dad, I know how hard it was for you,
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: and I knew that I could always count on you,
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: and I really appreciate everything you did for me, and
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: I want you to know that. And that's all Dad
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: needed to hear that he has what he did for Tom.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: Thomas wasn't being forgotten right because he was pursuing things
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: with the mom, and the dad says he appreciates. Toma
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: is saying that they pack up to leave and they
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: feel like they accomplish everything they wanted to on the trip,
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: and Tom says, Paula, you're part of the family now,
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: and she I think she understands the family better now,
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: and Thomas says, okay, but Paula, you're in their talking head,
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: you're still not going to try to fix it, right,
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: you understand that you can't fix it. And Paula says, well,
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: I still want to take a picture of everyone at
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: the wedding together, all of the parents, And Thomas says,
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: so you haven't learned anything, and she says, it's just
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: a picture, and he says, that's literally what started the
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: whole thing. He took a picture with my mom, So
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: you just want to repeat that And she's like, whatever,
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: it's gonna be fine.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: It's interesting when I talk to her, she's said that, uh,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: the parents lived in a trailer on this farm, but
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: to me, it looks like they live in a house.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: And then the trailer was like the guest space.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe their house is also a trailer, but the
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: wheels were covered by you know, people cover the wheels.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it could be. But also they said on this episode,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: I'm so glad you got to see how Thomas grew up.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: I was like, did he grow up grow up on
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: this farm like a new Yeah me too.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: Confusing.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: Something's not making sense. Are they getting married at the
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: Queen Mary though, that's the question.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: I believe that is where the wedding is planned.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: Yes, did they book it? Okay?
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Yes, I believe so because I told her about Katie
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: playing a ghost on the Queen Mary you did, yes,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: And she's like, I want to get She goes, I
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: want to get in touch with her and find out
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: about that because I want to do it.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: She would be good at it.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, hilarious. So she was ghost of the Week or whatever.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she got a certificate.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: She should hang that behind herself in a podcast studio. Okay,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Asha and Maxwell hmm okay, well Asha. We start off
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: the episode with her calling her prophetess Patricia PPP and
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: she says, hey, listen, I got to call you right quick,
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: and she goes, it's one forty five in the morning.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: She goes, anyway, we got to do a prayer. She
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: doesn't even care that it's my God.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: God doesn't punch a clock and neither just Asia.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: No, She's like, anyway, my sister is Cola and Glenn,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: so it's uh, Jacola and Glenna.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: And then because I thought it was just like Cola, like.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: It's j O C C O L A H Jacola,
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: and I would like to know where that originated from. Glenna,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: we got probably the dazz name is Glenn.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: Were you named after we Cola or were you named
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: after like an off brand Cola like R. C.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Cola with an age or Cola Scola. I mean, what
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: is that? Cole A Scola, Cola Scola, the actor that
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: wrote Oh Mary, thank you? Okay, yeah, just the light
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: went completely dim in your eyes when I said that.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: No, I had no idea.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: Okay, sorry, that was a That was a that was
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: an inside Broadway joke.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: And I haven't seen it. I would like to see
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: it in New York. I want to see it. Maybe
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: I should go see it.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: You should go see it. It changed.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: I remember how you raved about it.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, anyway, that was sorry, guys. So she Cola.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: She says, Cola, Glenn and Rod will be there today,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: and she goes, let's do a prayer, and then she's
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: like hello, hello. She just in that how the devil works,
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: just trying to cut me off from my prayer. The
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: devil will do it so funny. Now the screen, the.
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: God is anything good and the devil is any minor inconvenience,
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: like you know, if her like Wi Fi is glitchy,
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: if they get her drink wrong at Starbucks.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: Right the devil.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: The devil is working at the Starbucks. So four days
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: to wed, the screen tells us she calls Rod Rod's
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: at the She says, are you at the hotel? And
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: he says, yeah, we don't have the directions to the house.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: She says, I'll send them to you. So she says,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: are you at the hotel and he says yes. But
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: then they all show up with giant rolling bags. How
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: many people can stay in this house because they just
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: added four people to this house.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: Well, this was the large airbnb that they rented, right, yeah.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: But if they weren't planning for this to happen, why
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden do they have four extra bedrooms?
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: They were planning it, Okay, So I called phony baloney
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: on all of this.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: We didn't know there was a wedding.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: I completely agree that there's not any way everybody had
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: their bags packed within two days and went to Africa
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: with their pastor. I don't even know if these days
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: you have to get certain shots before you go right
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: to Africa and stuff. So come on now, baloney, As
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Katie would say, yes, amen. So they're talking to her.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: She says, today, my older sister, Jacola, my middle sister Glenna,
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: my mom's friend Kathy are coming along with stepbrother Rod
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: to Nigeria. And I just told them, come on, we're
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: gonna have a vacation in Africa. We had things planned.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: Just come on over, Come on.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: I don't even do that for like going to the
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: west side in La like when I lived in the Valley.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: That would take a week of planning at least. Yeah, yeah,
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: just hop on over to Africa.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: There's just no way. There's no way, so she says,
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: My sisters are usually supportive of everything I do, but
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: they have no idea we're getting married. I hope Rod
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: didn't tell them anything. So ten hours of a flight.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: What else are they talking about on the flight?
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Which means you like at least fourteen hours of traveling,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: and you're saying, nowhere along the way, did either any
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: of these three people go? I wonder why she wants
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: us to come to Africa.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: And Rod doesn't seem like the kind that can keep
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: his secret. Let's be real. Oh no, he's a gossip queen.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: Yes yes, so also, yes, you do need a yellow
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: fever vaccination to go to Nigeria.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: And how far ahead in advance can you get that.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: Can you get it? Can you just call up your
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: primary care and be like, you got yellow fever in stock?
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: I thought to get that, right, they have that at CBS,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: next to the COVID and the flu yellow fever. I
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: don't think so, right, Come on t LC. So she says,
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: I hope Rod didn't tell them anything, but there's no
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: more time to keep the secrets now or never. So
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: all the sisters and Rod arrive at the Airbnb and
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: Aunt Kathy or whoever she is, and Aunt Kathy was like,
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: I got to get in on this, like I want
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: to be on TV. This is my moment. So in
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: the talking head Jacola and Glenna, the sisters and Kathy say,
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: Asha always does this. She just comes up with the
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: last minute vacation and we follow her to another continent
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: where you need a yellow fever vaccine.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Okay, they have malaria.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and she says, you know Asia, she's just bossy
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: and demanding. And my note here is so now they
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: just all of a sudden have space in this house
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: for four more grown ups. Okay. So Rod sits down
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: to talk to Asia. Everybody's going to get settled, and
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: he says, you're going to need to tell everybody what's
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: going on, and not just days before the wedding, it's
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: four days before the wedding. And he says, there's something
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: going on. You're just not telling me everything. And she goes,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: you think I'm pregnant? Now that is offensive to God
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: and to me. And she says to roj because you're
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: just stuck. You're not being open minded. You think it
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: can only be one thing and it's not. And he goes,
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: do they practice voodoo here in Nigeria? They put did
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: they put something in your drink or your food? And
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: she goes and she says, they practice voodoo in America.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: Shut up, Rod, Jesus. He thinks he's living in the
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: movie Get out? What do you think is happening here?
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: And talking to her, Rod goes, I worry, you know,
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: you get those callers on the phone. I'm worried. Just
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: a scam. No callers ever get you to come fly
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: to another country and marry somebody when you need a.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: Vaccine Nigerian prince email scam that has been a joke forever.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: Is about please come and me.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: And he kept saying robocalls. I was like, Rob, Rod, Rod,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: whatever your nam is okay. So Asha says, well, you
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: can just have a conversation with Maxwell yourself, and he says, oh,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: I will. So now we see Maxwell and his parents
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: and his sister Blaze sitting by this beautiful seaside restaurant
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: and it's by the ocean. You can see people are
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: like standing out, like looking to see what they're filming.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: Because you could see there's people that are like, you know,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: making sure people don't cross the line into the recording.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: I love stuff like that. If somebody keeps going by
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: on a horse, I was like, that person's trying to
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: get their moment and do that.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: On Hollywood Boulevard block people from walking into a shot.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: So I had to like herd people into the little
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: tourist shops, yeah, or on Holly so they wouldn't walk
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: on the street because we needed the street to be
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: completely empty.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're so mad.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Lots of yelling and what movie was this?
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: This was for the Oscars.
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: It was for an opening shot that they were going
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: to use the Oscars of like a drone shot of
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: Boulevard completely empty.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: For some reason.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: And so but if you shoot during the day at
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: Hollywood Boulevard, there's thousands of people, So.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: So how did you get this? So you block the
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: street off on both ends.
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: And then you say, can you just come inside and
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: stay inside, stay in this hot, hot no air conditioning,
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: tourist place that sells shirts that say I love La
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: Yes for for just it's five more minutes. We just
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: needed the shot five more minutes and did you give
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: more minutes?
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: Maybe everybody didn't get anything shirt, they were just in
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: the wrong place at the wrong time.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, But at the other point, some were like, oh,
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: we're part of a thing, like yeah, yes, and.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: You were like, yes, you are, You're important.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Yes, you're basically the star of the oscars.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: So Asha introduces everyone to everyone, and she stands up
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: and says, well, the reason we have brought everyone together
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: is to introduce all of you to my fiance Maxwell,
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: and in a few days we'll be getting married. Speech over,
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: she sits down and they're all like what and Rod goes, huh,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: I see you charmed her really really good, and he's like,
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: so Blaze says to the sisters, how do you feel,
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: because she's like, oh, yes, sisters are here. Sisters sister
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: see each other, and they go, well, we are shocked.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: We are shocked, and she goes, well, the man at
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: the embassy told Maxwell that the best bet is to
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: get married and reapply for the spousal visa, take that
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: visa back to the United States with the marriage certificate
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: and reapply. And they said, so this will be faster,
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: and she goes, no, it could be another year, it
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: could be another two years. We don't know. But it
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: takes time. But this is the best bet. And I
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: think this will work because you know, now we're really
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: doing it. So talking to how the sisters go, we
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: are very surprised she did not tell us this. We
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: had no idea why we were getting yellow fever shots
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: three months ago, and it is unfound was.
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: Right what I googled, because otherwise we're just spreading misinformation.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: Oh, I said something so absolutely wrong on the on
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: the Love After lock Up podcast yesterday, I said that
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Cecily was not a part of Italy, that Sicily was
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: a separate country, and that's not true. Is false, that's false.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't need twenty six more people to
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: tell me, because I've realized that I said it as
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: if it was true. It realized now I shouldn't have
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: left the internet. Tell me that because I read that somewhere,
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: so no, that's just just a quick Google would have
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: found out that I was wrong. So yeah, we left
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: it in.
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: So they should feel very prideful of their location as yes,
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: and I think they think of themselves as slightly different
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: than regular Italians.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: I think of it as Texas. The people in Texas
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: think that they're in a different country, and that's I mean,
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: they can have it, no shade takeisha. So the sisters say, well,
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: we are just so surprised she did not tell us,
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: and it's unfair because we should have known this was coming,
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: so we could have been more prepared. Mm hmm, that's good.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: You read those lines and you're so tired. You know,
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: they're so tired. They're really reading those lines.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: If this was real, I feel like she would have
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: gotten them drunk, because I feel like these ladies like
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: need a cocktail or something.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: And like right before they were arrived, remember it was
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: one forty five am where they're from, so it's like
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: probably four in the morning where they're from now, so
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: they are get some sleep first.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, theos the clock and yeah, God doesn't punch your.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: Clock, no, right, So the sister said, as what will
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: you do if you're denied again? And she goes, I
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: do not think it will happen again, because this time
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: God really is on my side. And the first time.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: Said that before, but this time there was static on
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: the line and I misinterpreted and he cut out right
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: as he said I ordained this. It was like, I
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: don't ordain this, but that don't was cut out because
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: of the static, and I got confused.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: But this time it's for.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: Real, God said, this time it's ordained and we this time,
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: we will have a stronger evidence and the marriage certificate
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: and they will know for a fact it's legitimate because
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: we will not include those losers who send us our
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: best friends okay, whose.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: Faces blurred the lady but not the man, right.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, I can't remember that.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: I think the lady was for sure the lady. I
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: think the man we saw his face. I could be wrong.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: She's like Asha got me going over to Nigeria, getting
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: scammed by Jerian scammera so and talking tot as she goes.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: I could tell my sisters were speechless. And I understand
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: because his whole family was sitting right there. They had
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: to play along to get along and if they had
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: an opinion, they're just gonna internalize their feelings to tell
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: me later, like, oh, they're gonna.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: Tell you later.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So the ant or the sister or somebody says,
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: so when are you gonna have babies? Because they're very
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: concerned about her age everybody else.
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: Every day we wait to impregnate you is a day
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: that you are more feeble and into menopause.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Just one less egg every day. Yeah, And they say
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: when will you have babies? And Maxwell says, we will
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: see by the grace of God? And Clement says, who
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: Clement is a man? A few words except for when
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: you chimed in last week about her being in menopause.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: He said, I say, I just need two boys and
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: two girls. And they all look at him like, do
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: you see how old she is? Like are you crazy?
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: Is she gonna have quads? And she says, let me
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: tell you something right now, they're gonna be two pregnancies
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: and whatever comes, that's it. That's what you're taking.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: He's like slipping some money to the doctor.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: I think she should just because she could artificially inseminate
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: multiple eggs. And he's gonna like slip money to the
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: doctor just put like twenty in there.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: And to see what happens. Yes, yeah, happens.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: So you already freezed her eggs. Actually, she has a
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: lot of money.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: I know, maybe she has though maybe she's maybe she.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: Has freezed her eggs. Yeah.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: I don't know if they'd like that though, because that
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: doesn't feel as God ordained. It feels more science ordained.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: I don't think you say freezed your eggs. I think
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: you say froze.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: Froze.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: Apologies, okay, just making sure nobody come at us. I
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: know this least a part of Italy. Okay. So Rod's like,
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: you're already talking about babies and talking to head. Rod goes,
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: it is too early to think about babies. They're not
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: even going to be living in the same house, the
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: same country, and then he says, I don't even know
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: if he can afford babies.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: So now he's so.
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: Rod, I'm gonna he can't be I don't know if
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: he's right, he's enophobic.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: Let's say that.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: He has no idea what these people's wealth status is.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: They could be like supremely wealthy, Like he has no idea.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: He just gets there they're poor scammers immediately because they're
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: right Nigeria. Right. Yeah.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: So Rod says, all right, Maxwell, what kind of business
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: will you pursue in the United States? And Maxwell says,
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: right now, I'm in the car business. It's like buying
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: and reselling. And Asia says he is in a wholesale
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: auto broker, but he is considering doing electrical work and
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Maxwell says, yes, my dad, Clement is an electrical contractor. Oh,
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: which does mean he has a profession that makes money.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: And Rod says, don't speak for your man, please, Uh, Maxwell,
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: do you understand what American women are looking for in
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: a husband. Well, now he's against Americans too, Rod, He's
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: got a lot of negative opinions. He says. The husbands
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: in America work very very hard. She works very very hard.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, women hard assume he won't work very very hard.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: Why do we assume that the women are just now,
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: now that she's got a husband, she's just gonna like he's.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: Gonna stop working.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he needs to work very hard, but he can't
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: work hard inherently because he's Nigerian, so he's unable to
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: work hard.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: She has a doctorate. I highly doubt she's just going
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: to stop working. And Maxwell goes well, I don't think
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: Americans work harder than Nigerians. And Rod goes, oh, really, well,
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: how much you got in your bank account? And Maxwell
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: just looks around and goes, well, you're not going to
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: compare me to you because you have all the machines there,
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: so you make everything easier to work. But here in Nigeria,
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: I use my hands to work under harsh situations. So
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: I don't think you work harder than Nigerians. You're just blessed.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm. And I think we've heard this before. We've
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: heard this before on some show where they said, like,
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: you think that you work hard, but you have a
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: lot of machines that do things for you, which you know,
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't think of being that I live here, But
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: that's definitely true. So Maxwell says, Okay, look, it's normal
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: to ask somebody what you do for a living, but
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: to ask how much of money I have in my
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: bank account is a dumb question, a very dumb question.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: And you don't ask a man such questions. Yeah, I
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: don't think you just don't ask anybody that question. It's
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: pretty rude.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: No, it's very rude. Also, he doesn't translate what he
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: writes in Nigeria. You don't know what that means in
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: American money, right right?
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: So Rod says, I am a very hard worker. And
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: one thing I know about Nigerians. We get a lot
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: of robo calls and scams and they all come from Africa.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. The robo calls that I
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: get is they're all about my loan.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: The loan.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: My loan has been processed there. I'm so lucky. They
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: just need a few more pieces of information about my loan.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: And nowhere on these robot calls that I get twenty
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: a day about my loan, does it say it comes
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: from Africa.
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: All of mine are from American politicians. So I don't
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: know what he's talking about. And also he just told
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: you he has a job. It is with cars.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: He is not.
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: You know who was sitting in a call center making
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: robo calls submit in India? Yeah he was and us
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: think a fake photo that was clearly a catfish. So
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: let's direct our xenophobia towards India.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, let's don't do that. And I know, let's
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: don't do that. So you know, Rod says, the robo
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: calls come from Africa, and Balaze says, you're talking about scams,
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: but that is not my family. It is fine to
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: be skeptical and have fears, but my family is far
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: from the scam. And Rod says, well, I flew ten
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: hours on a plane, which I've never done before, to
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: be sure she's in good, good hands, and Blaize says, okay, well,
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: I don't want someone around him who's going to be
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: bossy and too proud and cannot submit. But you're free
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: to make your observations. So Blaize is like, you're gonna
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: take down my brother. I'm going to take down your sister, cousin, godsister.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: And she's like, why my catching stray? It's like, I
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: just what I know.
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: Families are against the wedding for different reasons. What's funny
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: is Asia's mom is the only one on board, but
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: she doesn't seem to matter because they think she is
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: the doddy old lady and the daughters don't take her seriously.
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: And Rod doesn't take your serious word. You fooled mom
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: into being bored with this. She loves Maxwell because he's
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: so handsome, and I don't know.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: She hasn't said I think she just drunk again. She
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: hadn't They give her a pill. So Maxwell says to Rod,
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: my name is Maxwell and the meaning of my name
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: is greatness, so you're gonna like me. I like that.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: I liked it. I was like, good, give it back
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: to him.
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: He should have learned what Rod meant. And your name
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: is Roderick, which you mean stupid head.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: And they all kind of laugh and Maxwell saying that,
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: And Maxwell says, you seem to have a lot of problems,
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: but I'm looking forward to spending time with you and
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: getting to know you. And Rod's like.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: Nice I would.
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: He didn't punch him in the face, he didn't storm off.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: He took it very well.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: He just sort of laughed. Yeah. He didn't say why
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: are you coming at me so hard? And you don't
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: know my finances and you're disrespecting my parents by saying
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: we're scammers, you know. But he was just nice about it.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: So talking to Rod, says, he says all the right things,
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: but he'll slip up if he's not authentic. Asha has
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: been very smart in all her decisions in business and life,
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: but this is the worst decision I've ever seen.
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: So if she's been smart in all decisions, why do
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: you assume this is such a dumb decision. I mean,
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: I think it is a dumb decision, But why does
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: he think it's a dumb decisions?
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: Have we seen her? Do we know that she's had
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: like six boyfriends that have fooled her before?
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: Right now? I don't think so.
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: I think she's very picky, and that's why she hasn't
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: been married so far.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: I think. So, Okay, let's move on to Katie and Josh.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: Oh God, these assholes.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: Okay, so not everybody here is an asshole?
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: No, well, there's it's more than it was last week
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: because I've turned on somebody.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, here we go.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: So Katie and Josh, they are all kissy and their
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: hero shot now, which is like the first time she's
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: made out with him and not Ryan in this hot Man.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: It is the second hero shot where she rubs her
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: hand ale on his face. Weird, weird, weird.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: Let me stick my tongue in your mouth.
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: So they go to a cake tasting for the wedding
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: because I guess they're having the wedding there.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: I guess that's why they're there. And we didn't know.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: We thought they were there for Easter.
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: But okay, so she says, fifty people will be at
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: the wedding, and she's happy her parents are coming and
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: can give me some insight. I'm going in with an
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: open mind. Who says that about a cake tasting, it's.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: A cake tasting. And the fact that when the guy
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: said how many people are going to be she goes fifty.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: And Josh is like, okay, I had no idea.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: I know zero people. I didn't know that fifty people
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: still liked you.
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: But okay, yeah, okay, how many of them have you
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: made out with? Forty nine?
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: Well, let's don't count your parents, so forty eight I didn't.
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: I counted the parents, at least one of the parents
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: on purpose, because I don't know it.
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: She does when she's super drunk at home. She might
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: have made out with her grandfather. I don't know.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: He doesn't like her either.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: It's take out your dentures.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: It's awful. No, he dies not have denterrous girl.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: No, he looked pretty good, so I don't remember what
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: he looks like. So he looks pretty good.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: I'm shaking my head. The teeth weren't great, but okay.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: There we go.
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: But he's also She's like, I'm going in with an
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: open mind, which is a very weird thing to say
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: about a cake tasting. And the guy asks if they
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: have their wedding colors, and Josh goes, I like this
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: the color of my shirt, which is like a maroon.
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: And he goes, no, not for the wedding. And he goes, no,
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: I guess not. That's a dumb response. No, not this color.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: And you know with this color, you know what she
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: didn't do before she went to the cake tasting, take
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: a shower, wash her hair. No, she looks like she
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: stuck her head and a vat of grease and went
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: to the cake tasting.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: You know who has started showering a lot more Mallory.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: Oh good, good, that's good.
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: Okay, she transferred the hair grease to Katie. So Katie
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: tells us I'm not gonna be a bridezilla, but maybe
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: just a zilla, you know, like I am in my
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: normal life.
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: I liked that. I liked that she was she owned it. Yeah, okay.
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: So they haven't planned anything for the wedding, and Josh says, well,
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: you're in control of everything. But when you say you're
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: in control, it's chaos. And I really don't want stress
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: and chaos on the wedding day. That terrifies me. And
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: she says, when I tell you I've got this, I
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: do like the apartment that I told you I got
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: and we instead stayed in a hotel, and like my
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: mattress that is stained.
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: I've got this.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: She doesn't. She doesn't.
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: She doesn't have anything plan.
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: So Josh says, Katie had said maybe we could have
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: the wedding at your house and the parents, and the
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: parents go no, that, no, we cannot fit fifty people.
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: We don't even like you, Katie, So you're not gonna
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: trash our house and let people use our bathroom.
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: No, it's not happening.
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: And by the way, if the wedding is like in
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: thirty days and they're just like, can we have it
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: at your house?
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: Uh no no, And so the parents say we have
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: We are not surprised that she has nothing planned.
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: And it's six weeks away. So will they be able
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: to find a venue in six weeks?
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: What? No? No, that she was counting her marriage to
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: be like, sure, you can have it at our house.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: We saw that backyard. That backyard can't fit fifty people.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: It's tiny.
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: What is happening where is the Is it gonna be
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: at the like community center, even those places are booked. Yeah,
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: you get have to get married on like a tubesday morning.
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: Well that's what they're gonna have to do, is get
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: married on a Tuesday morning so that they can find
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: a place or at three in the morning. I don't
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: give me do it in you're off hours.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: She'll be drunk by trying to make out with the priests,
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: so now I know.
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: So then it gets so much worse. And this scene
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: I actually found quite infuriating. I was so stressed so
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: at the cake tasting. Still, Katie gets a notification on
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: her smart watch, which is so funny that she has
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: a smart watch, because I feel like those are supposed
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: to help people manage their lives better.
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: And I noticed that when she was looking at her watch,
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: She's like, you're not gonna like this. I was like,
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: what time? It is?
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: Like, you have access to all the technology to help
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: you get your act together and you still can't do it.
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: I'm sure there's an app on there that helps you,
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: like count how many drinks you've had, so you don't
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: make that. So she says, the delivery company is giving
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: me the window of when your possessions from the UK
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: a arriving, and he says, what, why are they contacting you?
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: And she says, well, they've been contact I told you
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: and he says, no, you didn't, and the parents get
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: so tense.
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: They're just like, this is so bad.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: Kimberly didn't make you so stressed to think like that
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: was all his stuff.
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: I was so when we get more of the story,
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: I was just more and more infuriated.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: And the parents are just sitting there, just like not.
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: Eating the cake, just like Katie fucked up something else,
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: and she gave a total bitch to Josh. So she
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: explains that his stuff has been stuck at customs since
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: he got to America and now his possessions are finally
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: arriving in Portland, but they are not in Portland now
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: they are in California. And she says, I feel like
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: he's being a little dramatic.
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: What fuck fuck you, Katie.
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: I have you with every fiber of my being right now.
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: There's something so selfish about her.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: It's really bad. This is really bad because he's you
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: could you could see the non acting sheer panic, like
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: we're not just doing this scene that producers told us
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: to do. You could see the real like panic in
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: him that was there.
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: This is everything I own and we are not there.
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: They're going to drop it off and no one is
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: going to be in the hallway of our apartment building
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: for anyone to take what's gonna happen.
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: We've got to call.
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: He's gonna go back, get sent back to England because
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: no one's there to sign for its nightmare.
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: This is a nightmare.
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: And instead of problem solving, she's like, I think he's
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: being a little dramatic. I oh, there's so many diagnoses
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: I think I can think about the top of my head.
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: But basically, just bitch. She just she's being a bitch.
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: So he says he She goes, so he's being dramatic,
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: And Josh says, I've been trying to get these things
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: for weeks and you haven't told me anything, and they've
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: been contacting you, and this is this level of importance
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: to me up here, and you're treating it all the
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: way down here. Yeah, And she says, well, I was
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: on my run when they called, and I texted you
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: about it and you never asked, so I didn't bring
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: it up.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: She probably sent him a text that said, hey, remind
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: me to tell you something later.
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: Right exactly, and he didn't.
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: So he apologizes to the parents. He's like, I'm sorry
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: that we're having this discussion in front of you at
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: this cake tasting. And they say, no, it's important. It's
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: all of your belongings and our daughters being a huge
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: see you next Tuesday.
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: Right now. We're sorry for our daughter, is what they
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: should have said.
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: So Josh says, if it was all of her storage
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: unit possessions, like that weird bin that had like loose
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: bean in it and things like that a plate, yeah,
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: she would be concerned too. And she says, well, there's
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: nothing you can do but just hope it gets there
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: when we're there.
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: No, there's something you can do, which is schedule it
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: for when you're home, or get a friend to go.
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: Get a friend to go and wait and contact the
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: company and make sure it's okay for someone else to
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: sign give him your authorization, like you need to start
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: making calls right now. And he said, I would just
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: appreciate you taking this more seriously. These are all of
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: the possessions that I have in this world, right and
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: so they he's upset, and I would be upset to
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: and so they go back to her. On another day,
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: they're at the parents' house. They look at the chickens
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: in the backyard. She's trying to catch one and it's
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: running away from her, and he says, this looks like
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: you on a night out trying to catch an innocent
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: guy to make up with it and make out with him.
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: We'll call the chicken Ryan, And I was like, so
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: now we're joking about her trying to essentially s a
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: people who don't want it.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: It's uh, it's he's just laughing, like he's made the
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: joke of the century, and like, this is a girl
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: you're supposed to be marrying, and you're making jokes about
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: how she's trying to make.
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: Out with force herself for herself on there pushing her away.
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: So he says, it's good that you know, we're happy
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: and having fun after our fight yesterday and we had
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: a great night shagging. So happy Easter. So they just
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: they just go swing from fights to makeup.
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: Sex, Like is this stuff that's what I need to know?
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, We're not even going to get a follow up.
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: I bet on the stuff.
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: So the dad leads them in an Easter egg hunt
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: and that was fun.
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: They're both actually very into it. They're both being really competitive,
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: and he's like, this is intense and they can't find
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: the eggs anywhere, and like there's like a golden egg
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: and they're like take no prisoners, and they're like both
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: going for it. It was cute.
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: But then they're in their talking head and he says,
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: I would like to tone down the competition when we do
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: this with our children, and she says no, and he says, okay,
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: so you can organize the egg hunt and I'll organize
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: the therapy that they'll need because.
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: Of the egg hunt.
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: And so Josh finds the golden egg, which has two
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: dollars in it. Yes, Katie takes one of them and haha,
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: it's so fun. So the grandparents come over for an
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: Easter meal, the grandparents, who also hate Katie and Edward.
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: The grandpa says, Katie is very opinionated and.
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: Pushy, but she's a good person, you know. I just
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: good luck Josh. It's good luck, Josh. You grandpa says.
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: Grandpa's had a couple of mid afternoon Easter wines and
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: he's telling it all loose lips.
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: Everyone in this family hates her.
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: So at the meal, Katie starts drinking. She's like secretly
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: pouring more wine for herself and Josh.
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: Josh gets up to get the sausage rolls and she's likelgooloo.
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: Well he's not looking.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: So the mom asked if Josh celebrated Easter and he
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: says kind of. When I was a kid, it was
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: more about chocolate. I'm not very religious, and he says,
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: what does the religion mean to you? And mom says, well,
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: you're gonna have to have your children baptized and raised
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: in the church. And I think she says to us,
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: I think religion gives people good morals, Like it's done
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: with my daughter Katie.
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: Clearly my daughter has turned her face away from the church.
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: Because if ever there was a face for religion, Katie
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: is not. That she's like on a billboard warning people
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: against forcing religion on children.
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: I wonder though, if the mom the reason she seems
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: so like calm and okay with the whole not okay,
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: but like not as bothered by Katie as any regular
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: person in her presence would be, is because she's so religious.
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: She has really just prayed a lot to come to
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: peace with it because she has a piece about her yeah,
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: where she's obviously very upset about her daughter, but she's
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: yet also thrilled that she doesn't live with her.
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: That's where so I think there are other siblings.
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: I think there are two, yeah.
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: And I think they are good. And I think the
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: mom a long time ago has written off Katie as
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: like a wild cousin in the family that comes around
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: occasionally for the holidays, and they're fun for a while,
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: but you don't let yourself get stressed over what's happening
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: in their life because you stare at times a year.
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: It's a lot of therapy and praying, and she's like,
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: I'm focused on my good children, and I Katie, I'm
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: I have to bail her out of jail one day,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: but like, as long as she's not in jail. It's
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: because of murder, but it's fine as long as she's
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: not in jail, And I don't let she's like emotionally
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: detached herself. It's like you have a boss that is
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: kind of mercurial with their emotions, and you found that
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: like sometimes they're really excited about things, but then sometimes
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: they're really mad about things.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: And you found it's.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: Healthier for your mental health to just be like neutral,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: so you don't get excited when they get excited, you
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: don't get sad when they get sad, and you just
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: detach and that's better for you. And I feel like
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: the mom has done that and have put all of
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: her focus on her other kids, and if Katie comes
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: around once in a while, that's great.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: I think that's right because I think that the way
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: her mother I've really been thinking about this a lot,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: the way that her.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: Fascinating you guys, we've never had like a case study
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: like Katie.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: I think her mother's saying when she said, yeah, I
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: was bad on my birthday. I was bad. I kissed
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: everyone like it's funny or it's like I was I was,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: I was bad. I accidentally like took too many pennies
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: at the CBS. It said, just take one, like she
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: kind of the way she's like, I was bad on
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: my birthday, and the mom just says that makes me sad.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: It leads me to believe she's had a lot of
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: therapy coaching on how to approach Katie, how to respond
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: when Katie does things, and for her to say one
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: day you're going to hurt somebody. I feel like the
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: mom has had a I'd love to know how much
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: therapy her mothers have because dad is sort of like,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know. She does therapy and then tells me
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: and I just say, okay, that's how we deal with Katie.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: When does she leaves me?
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: It might be church therapy like pailing with the reactious leader.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: And they have tried to pray the drunk away with Katie,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: which is like a different kind of pray the gay away,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: to pray the take out away, but they have been unsuccessful.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: So they are teaching her to like focus on her
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: own emotions and the good children. But what's interesting about
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: that scene is why did Katie confess that she was
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: bad on her birthday? Does she have like a confessional
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: relationship with her mom, like she confesses her sins to her?
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: Why does she tell her mom all of this stuff
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: that she does when she knows it will be against
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: what her mom believes? Is she trying to get attention
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: from her parents by doing this sort of behavior, right,
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: It's very strange. It is it could justice easily not
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: have said anything because she doesn't live there.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: How her mom know, right, yeah, I'm with you. Okay,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: continue on. I'm sorry I could. I'm nastly fascinated by
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: the situation.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: So they're talking about church, and you know, the mom
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: says religion gives people good morals, unlike Katie, and the
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: dad to ask if Josh would ever convert, and Josh says, oh,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: God goodness, that's a big question. Oh my cheerio, that's
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: a good question. That's a big question. No, I don't
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: know enough about your religion. And Katie says, well, what
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: if I took you to church, which again was interesting
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: because she's not lying to the parents and saying, we
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: go to church all the time, right, you know, Yeah,
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: so we go in Portland. We totally have a regular
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: church are The pastor's name is George Glass.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: We totally go all the time.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: I I think they've given up with her trying to
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: go to church.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: Uh huh.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: But I think their whole thing is if you get married,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: if you have children, God forbid, then we need those
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: children to go.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: To church, right, because it's too late for you.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: But the kids are innocent and we could still mold
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: them into who we want them to be.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: They will still be our grandchildren. Right.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: So Katie's like, what if I took you to church?
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: And he says, I'd be open to it, you know,
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: i' mcna. So that's sort of like you don't you
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: don't know, you know, kind of you're open. And Katie says,
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: Mom asked her mom, if Josh doesn't believe in God,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: will he.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: Go to hell and I'll go to heaven?
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: And Mom says, well, I don't know what's in his
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: soul and what God is looking for, which is kind
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: of bs because isn't all of her studies isn't that
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: tell you what God is looking for to go to heaven?
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: It was interesting the way she said to her mom,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: mom my book, It's like, Mom, well Josh go to heaven. Yeah,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: looks like she was like a four year old at
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: like Sunday School, Like, you know, it was strange.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: Everything is strange, strange, everything is strange. Also, you can
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: see the thoughts start going and now Katie is like O.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: C D.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: Spiraling Yes, right, the after life. She's now spiling spiraling
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: about that. So Katie's like, well, if he doesn't go
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: to heaven, how can I be happy if he's in heaven?
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: And or if he's in Hell and I'm in Heaven.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: If I was Josh, I would have gotten ever walked away.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: I would be like, we're having an Easter dinner conversation
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: and everyone's just assuming that I'm going.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: To Hell, like I'm leaving.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: Well, She's like, Mommy, tell me where do the bad
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: people go?
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: Like Darling, your bestrothed is going to Hell? Oh no, mommy, Yeah,
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: it's crazy.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: So mom says, I don't know Katie because she's instead
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: of like going along with the OCD, you know, she
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: she just needs an answer. She could have just lied
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: to her, but instead she's like, I don't know Katie,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: and she's kind of annoyed. I feel like like they're
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: incessant questions. I'm sure Katie asked a lot of questions
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: because of her mind's going, and she's like.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: What about this?
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: Mom?
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: What about this? Do ducks go to heaven? What about geese?
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: Do geese go to heaven?
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: What about that geese that bit me? Did he go
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: to heaven? What about this? Do the ants go to heaven?
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: Katie fucking I don't know? Ask God? Like everyone hates her.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: And they're like, maybe she should have some more wine.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she had her drunks, so she'll pass out. Stop
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: talking to us, so Mom says in their in their
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: talking head, Katie tells Josh, you know our kids need
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: to be baptized, and he says, well, this is starting
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: to feel like an ultimatum, like it's again your way
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: or it's nothing. And she says, I feel like I've
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: told you I'm Lutheran, so it shouldn't blind blindside you.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: And he says, and I've told you that I'm agnostic,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: so that shouldn't blindside you. You can't have it both ways,
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: like I've been very clear about my religion and or
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: lack of religion. And Mom tells them to get into heaven,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: you need to accept Jesus Christ as your savior. And
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: I was like, okay, you lost me, Mom. You had
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: you had me with I hate my daughter, but you
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: lost me with telling me that I'm going to hell.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: She got real, reallys real quick.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: Real religious, real quick.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: And again I ask like, what if Josh was Jewish
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: or something else and not agnostic.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: Would she also say that she would feel like.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: Hell?
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: Or is she one of the Christians that's like, oh,
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: she's one of the chosen people.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: We don't mess. I don't know. I kind of feel
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: like she's like, you're a Lutheran or you're nothing.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly exactly, that's what feels like. Yeah.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: And Katie says, well, I don't know, is it like
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: so black or white? And the mom says, I think it.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: Is, which is weird because five seconds ago she said,
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: I don't know what's in his heart. I don't know
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: what God is looking for.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: And it doesn't seem very Christian to be like it's
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: black and white, You're going to.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: Hell, You're going to hell. It's no, no one judges
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: like a good Christian.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: That's right, real, that's right. Wow. And also she's sick
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: of Katie. She's been there one day. She doesn't want
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: to eat sausage rolls. She looked at her glass. It
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: was empty. Two minutes ago it was full. Katie drank
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: her wine. Yeah, she's gonna have to drive grandma and
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: grandma back to the nursing home. She's in a mood.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: She's in a mood. She's had it, she's had it.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: Had it.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she's not a very patient Christian lady. Okaye, she's
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: trying to Maybe she's realized because of the packages that
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: got lost in customs, Josh. Really, she needs to save
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: this young man, even though he is agnostic. She needs
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: to save him and get him away from her daughter.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 3: So she is going to be as horrible as possible,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: telling him he's going to hell so that he'll run
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: get away from my daughter.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: She wants somebody to take care of her so bad.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 3: I know she wants him to save her, even though
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: he's getting nothing out of the deal.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: No, and I don't know if he's surprised either. Honestly, No,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: he's not.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 3: There has to be something that is not right or
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: he just wants to be in America to be an influencer.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: He seems to really want to be on social media.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: He said, forty year old influencer. Okay, let's talk about
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: Debbie and is he he is in back thirty? Wow? Wow,
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: sorry apologies. Okay, let's talk about Debbie and Meadow. Okay, Wow,
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: that was okay. Debbie and Meadow. Okay, you know, with
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: all the conversation about my banks, tell me the truth,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: do my banks look like Debbie? Because now I'm concerned
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: that my banks look like Debbie's banks.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 3: No, and I actually wrote, even though she's going through
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: torture right now and sobbing on the sidewalk. Her hair
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: looks good, and I don't know how she gets it
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: to be so unfrizzy in that New Orleans. That New
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: Orleans humidity is a killer. So how what products is
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: she using?
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: I wonder if she's got a no, what do you
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: do when you get it straight resilient blowout? Because it's
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: bored straight, it's board straight, right, and yeah.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: I've gotten that too.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: It kills you because the formal dide and it's bad,
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 3: but you're you're ingesting all of that for me.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: Oh, you have to wear a mask like you, guys,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: eyes like, just profusely, guys.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: It's not it's not worth it bad.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: But the humidity, the other hand, the friz, Wow, we
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: don't like the friz. No, she's but no, your hair
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: doesn't look like Tibby's.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: Okay, thank you, I'm concerned. Okay. So twenty five days
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: to wed so we opened with her ball and crying
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: on the street of New Orleans. Just can't just a
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: shell of herself and her white jeans because he's sitting
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: on throw up. If she's on the streets and New Orleans,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: it looks like more like the garden. It looked a
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: little nicer.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very cute street.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: I shouldn't be so there's probably not like drunk like
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 3: alcohol on the ground.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: It looks like a nice place. But I still just
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: don't get on the ground in your white pants anywhere. Yeah. So,
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: because he told her he's going back to Egypt and
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: he comes down, he goes a d D look at me,
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: a d D. Look at me, Debbie, Debbie, look at me,
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: look at me, and she's like no, And he gets
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: out of ring and places it on the ground and
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: kneels and he's like a divvy look at me, look
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: at me?
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: Or were you shocked?
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: I was furious.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: I was I was furious and I was shocked too.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: I was shocked. And I'm gonna tell you what else
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: today or yesterday, ninety day fiance like official Instagram posted
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: you know a little video of this moment. I wrote back,
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: total dick move. Yeah, and we don't love her and
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: we definitely don't love him. This is a dick power move.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: And I hated it. Hated it.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I'm mad at the show. I'm mad at him.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: I'm mad at because.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 3: I had started to let myself believe that those reports
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 3: that they got married were false and that perhaps he does.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: Go back to Egypt and she is.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: Saved from this man, right, And I had my hopes
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 3: of they were dashed again.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: And also, this is the worst thing you could do
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: to someone.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: This is like those those prank DJs on the radio
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: who call up somebody and are like, I have bad news.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 3: I'm the police and your son died.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: Just kidding. You want tickets to the Rihanna concert? Like, yes, haha, Like.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: This was a I didn't like this prank. I don't
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: think it's funny. I think it tells you everything you
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: need to know about his controlling character.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: This is he took what he did when he pretended
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 3: he wasn't getting on the plane and he was already
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: at the airport in the first episode, and that hold
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: my beer, I'm gonna out asshole myself, yes, and do
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: an even worse prank.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: Yes, it's not funny.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: I'm going to crush this woman's spirit and her soul
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 3: and then give her the happiest moment of her life.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: I don't understand what kind of we've definitely diagnosed Katie.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: But yeah, the psychopath, there's something.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: Something is there that is completely wrong for anybody to
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: think this is the right thing to do.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: So if a guy does this to you, don't marry them.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: Don't marry them.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: Marry them.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 3: And she's the type that where she would be like,
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: do not put cake in my face at our wedding.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: Absolutely not.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: I'm getting my makeup done. It's the happiest day. I
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: think it's gross when people do it. It will be
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: very upsetting to me if you do that. And he
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 3: does it anyways, yes, and encourages the crowd to cheer
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 3: for him.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, you're so right. So she won't turn around,
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: so he goes and like hugs her behind her, which
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: it really is like one of the first times we've
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: seen him touch her, and he.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: Was gonna strangle her.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: She's ball she's balling, crying and he's smiling like as
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: he's like in her like look at me.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: And then moment television gold.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: And then she turns around and he gets on the
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: ground with the ring and he goes, I got you.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: She falls to the ground crying even more and it's
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: like I'm gonna kill you. I'm gonna kill you. But
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: then she hugs him and then she hits him and
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: then he's laughing and he goes like, I got you,
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: I got you DD. It's not funny.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: It's not funny.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 3: And I don't feel like he would have done this
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 3: at all if he wasn't on TV.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: I think he's trying to create like gotcha teaching.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: Show show is acting too like to show that he
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: was like I will go back to jumped.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 3: One thousand percent and to be the most memorable character
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 3: on this season. And he wouldn't have even put in
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 3: the effort to do a prank to her if he
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: wasn't on TV. But this is how he's putting in
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 3: the effort not to say I love you.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: So he answered the ring which seems to have a
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: price on it. Oh my god, it seemed to have
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: a sticker on it. That was the price tag. But
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: maybe it was the size, but he says, I don't
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: know the size or something hurt, but there is a
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: sticker on it. And he kisses her forehead while he
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: looks outward.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: Forehead, fore forehead, kiss.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: Forehead, and he laughs and goes, it's not easy to
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: be with Mito.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: And with his eyes open, yeah, looking he can't even
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: close his eyes when he kisses her.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: Talking Todd, he goes, I was carrying this ring around.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: I was waiting for the right moment, and so she
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: surprised me. So I surprised her.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: So it's like a revenge thing. Yes, fuck is wrong
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: with you?
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she surprised me by showing me this chapel. So
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: I said, I'll surprise you by saying no, but then
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: I'll surprise you again by saying I mean So, he says,
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: We've had our ups and downs, but it just helped
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: us to understand more things about each other. And now
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: I know that she's a good person and has a
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: good heart. And I think before we met each other
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: she was missing well, we was missing something in our lives.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: And now I complete her and she completes me. Everything
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: is everything is so narcissistic.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: And what do you mean you were waiting for her
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: to show she's a good person?
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: Now now I know. Now I know she's not a
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: good person. So I will say this that the ring
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: he gave her seemed to be sort of a small
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: ring that again had the price tag on it. But
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: then when she's hugging him, because then she shows it
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: like we're engaged, it seems to be like a smallish ring.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: Then when she's hugging him, you see the smallest ring
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: with the band under it, and then there's a different
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: ring that's like a big square, like green or something.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: On the other hand, Anyway, I'm gonna have my eye
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: on this because I feel like maybe it's reenactment and
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: I don't like that.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: And they're already married. Trust anything on this show.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: You know who we can't trust, and that's Marissa. So
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: that's who we end with. It's Marissa and Edward, and
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: boy oh boy, have I really been wanting to root
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: for her, But.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 3: She's too She is a member of MENSA and a
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 3: genius and an intellectual sophisticate.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you knew that.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 3: She is the smartest person and she needs someone to
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 3: match her intellectually. I'm not sure if you were aware
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 3: of that. She knows that Cecily is part of Italy.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: Okay, she sells wedding.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 3: Dresses for a living, which I'm sure she has a
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 3: nice she has. She has a good job, and I'm
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 3: she has a good business mind and things like that,
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 3: But she freaking talks like she is securing cancer and
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 3: he's a dumb dumb who is like intellectually handicapped.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: Did you hear that she was fired from Kleinfeld for
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: showing his dick pics to her coworkers.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 3: I did hear that. I don't is that true? We
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 3: know if that is factual?
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: I asked another ninety Day fiance member who said they
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: had also heard that, but they did not know if
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: it was factual.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: Because on the show, she told them about the circumcision. Right,
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: I told Dorothy and a couple other people about the circumcision.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: But I don't believe we saw her show picture picture.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: But maybe she did.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 3: The show and they cut it out. But then how
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 3: would Kleinfeld know unless someone told him.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: Somebody told on her. That's what I think.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 3: They don't like her, even though she's the most beloved
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 3: coworker they've ever had there besides Randy.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: M Yeah, I think that somebody told her. Like I
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: was very uncomfortable. She showed me a picture of her
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: husband's dick and I did not want to see it.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: Jesus.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: Now, we don't know. That's all alleged, so we don't know.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, okay, so she's doing fine now, she started
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 3: a bar studio.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: She's fine.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 3: So She has come alone to New York because she
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 3: needs space, and they are majorly connected, as any good
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 3: intellectual will say, I'm majorly disconnected right now?
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: Did she say she's in mensa? Are you just saying that?
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm just joking.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, she as, I was like, did I
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: miss that that? She said that? Okay, all right. No.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: So her friend from the party, one of the judge ladies,
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: he has met her to at Kleinfeld to see her
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: dress fitting, and she says, I'm surrounded by happy brides
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: all the time, and it really sucks that, like I
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: don't have those excited feelings right now. And again she's
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: so intellectual.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: Guys like what, Like, it really.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 3: Sucks that, like I don't have these She sounds like
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 3: Emma and she is deep intellectual. Also, Dorothy, her work wife,
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 3: is there, and Dorothy and the friend gossip immediately. When
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 3: Marissa goes to try in the dress, It's like, oh
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 3: my god, nice to meet you.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: What do you think about Edward? He's a d me right,
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: he's not good enough for her?
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: Have you seen have you seen that dick?
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: Have you seen thee So they are worried.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 3: They're not sure if she's going to go through at
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 3: the wedding, and Dorothy keeps trying to get the friend
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 3: to say that she's against it, like but you're what
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 3: do you really think? Like do you do you think
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 3: she should do it? And the friend keeps trying to
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 3: be very diplomatic and like feel Dorothy out. They're each
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 3: trying to feel each other out, like do we hate him?
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: We hate him right? Because he's not good enough for Marissa.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: Right, it's like on three say it one, yes, exactly,
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: I'll say it if you say it on three. Yeah.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 3: So she comes out in this dress that she says,
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 3: it's just like me. It's sexy and sophisticated.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: And okay, it's.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 3: Sort of a Grecian style to me, she looks like
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 3: a pillar, a Grecian pillar.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's good.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 3: So the friend says, well, you made the right decision
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 3: with the dress. Maris is like, what what do you mean?
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 3: And Dorothy goes, well, I just hope you love Edward
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 3: for the right reason. And Marissa goes, what do I
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 3: love him for his money? He's a poor Well, of
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 3: course I don't love him for his money. Did you
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 3: hear that joke that I just.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: Made he's a poor okay.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: So Dorothy goes, well, like sex, do you love him
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: for sex?
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 3: And Maris is like, I don't know what I'm doing.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 3: I'm not one hundred percent sure about the wedding. I'm
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 3: like seventy five.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: Percent sure, and Dorothy says, first for me, seventy five
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: might as well be zero, like you have to be
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: all in.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: And you know what's interesting? This week on Love After
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: lock Up, Corey said about Kirsten and Brady, she said,
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: I give a seventy five percent chance, and we were like,
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: that's good. That's good for Love after lock Up? He
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: saw people.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: Yes, good, Yeah, I mean even as in like seventy
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 2: five percent of no, fifty percent of Nicole she is
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: like fifty percent good for me, Chris, Yes, seventy five
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: was I think how Michael Michael felt about Angela when
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: they I think it was no there was.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: Baby Girl Lisa, it was so Ja boy and baby Girl.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: It was baby Girl Lisa. Yeah.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so uh, Dorothy's like it might as well be zero,
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 3: and Marissa says, so I can't be sure in forty
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 3: five days, like I just can't get to be one
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 3: hundred in forty five days, and the friend's like, but
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 3: it's been two and a half years that you've known him,
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 3: and Marisa says, I know.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: It's just now that we're living together.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 3: I'm assessing our new dynamic where I've realized he's stupid
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 3: and it's basically like marrying someone who has.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: An intellectual disability, the way I have to speak down
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: to him. So the friend says he was happy, go
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: lucky and his personality has changed because he can only
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: take so much of your bitchiness. And Marissa says, yeah,
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: because he feels beaten down by me. Yes, but I
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: want him to feel confident and be independent of me.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: And she's like, last night I wanted alone time in
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: the city and I didn't contact him, and at ten
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: thirty at night, he texted me like have a good night.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: Like I felt like there was attitude with the text,
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: and she says, I'm busy. I don't want to.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 3: Text nine thousand times a day. Well, you're engaged to
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 3: him and.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: You just check in.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 3: You're helping to raise your children, so you should text occasionally.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 3: He's not asking nine thousand, he's asking for one. And
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 3: she says he's miserable and he's afraid of messing up
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 3: because I'm not being nice to him, because I'm not
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 3: happy because of him. It's all his fault that he's
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 3: making me act like such a bitch. And Dorothy says,
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 3: if you're not certain, you shouldn't get married. And Marisa says,
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 3: I shouldn't be settling but the city because she thinks
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 3: she's so much better than him. But the situation is
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 3: more complicated than my friends realize. And I was like,
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 3: what is there something we don't know?
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Is pregnant? Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: So then she texts Edward, she said. She says, Edward
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: texts her that she he needs to talk to her
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: about something important, and he's coming to the city to
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 2: meet her. And she's like, oh my god, he is
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: going to travel into the city alone. No one with
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: his low IQ should be allowed on the streets without
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: a supervisor.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: It is three hours away, so you do wonder, like
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: is he driving? Is there a train?
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there's a train, I'm sure, but like he's
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 3: going to navigate the trains by himself.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: Gosh in a language that he reads.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, if money that he has and wow, she
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: I mean she thinks.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 3: She needs to have him on a leash like a
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 3: little kid. You'd have like a backpack leash.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, God bless.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 3: So my brother had one of those because he was
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 3: always running off. So she's so they meet up and
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 3: he tells us, you know, she barely said goodbye to
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 3: me when she went on this trip for a few
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 3: days to New York. She didn't even hug me. She's
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 3: being very cold and not loving to me. And I'm
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 3: doing everything I can to make her happy and she's
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 3: not giving it back.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: We're a couple. It's not just her.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: And I was like, finally, yeah, I like he's standing
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: up to her. I like it.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 3: Finally it's not all about her and what she wants.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 3: And he says, I need more because I know my
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 3: value as a person. And so he meets with her.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 3: He brings her a coffee, which I thought was nice,
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 3: and she says she's nervous, like this has to be
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 3: important for you to come all this way by yourself
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 3: without your adult human like to be.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: What if he walked up and he had one of
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: those huge badges around his neck that they make the kids,
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: but like their airline piction, Yes, that says an accompany
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: of minor. You know that's what I'm Yes, yes, all right.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 3: He's like going to reenact home alone too, lost in
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 3: New York again, like with a backpack on, and he's
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 3: gonna like and people will come up to him.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: Do you know where your mom and dad are?
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: Right, I can't find them. Let me get an officer
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: to help you. So he says, I don't feel good
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 2: with you.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 3: You just left for four or five days and you
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 3: didn't even give me a hug. You know that I
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 3: like those things, and you're just so cold. I'm begging
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 3: for love and it's not acceptable for me. And she
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 3: kind of rolls her eyes, which.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: He really was able to, like really express exactly what
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: he was upset about, you know.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: Which is all she's wanted. She says, this is what
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: she's wanted.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 3: She's like, I want him to stand up for himself
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 3: and get mad at me back, like when I'm being
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 3: a bitch.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: I want him to be a man. And he's now telling.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 3: Her, yeah, good good, and she's like rolling her eyes,
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 3: and he says, I need affection.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: You were never like this at the beginning, like you've changed, and.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 3: She says, I'm not affectionate as you you are in general,
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 3: and I'm just not in a headspace to be that
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 3: way right now. And you're quiet, and I feel like
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 3: there's nothing for us to talk about. There's no stimulation.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: Were you having like book club meetings in the dr
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: when you were first dating? Is this what you're missing?
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: Like you would download like thesis papers on the internet
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 2: and then discuss them exactly.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 3: You want to do like a mock trial where you
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 3: would debate each other about like political issues.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: Do you exactly?
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: She got the ck because he's like playing so much
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: with the kids that she's like, that's annoying, but she
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: wants him to do that. But then she want I
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: don't know what she wants.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 3: She didn't like it when they were wrestling upstairs because
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 3: she's like, it's now like I have three kids.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 2: It was really loud and I didn't like it.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: You mess up on the bed, yeah, and.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm, it's all about the pillows, and so she
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 3: she's like, there's no stimulation. He says, I give you
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 3: exactly what you want, and then you complain and she says,
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 3: you haven't. You promised to give me space on this trip,
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 3: and then you got mad at me, and then she
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 3: like smirks like she's got one up on him, and
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 3: don't try to tell me you didn't.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: You got mad at me and you know, and but
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 2: that happened after you gave him a cold goodbye that
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: was on this trip, so your point doesn't hold.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: So Also I think he's like, okay, wait, so she's
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: going to work in the city. She's gonna this is
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: how it's going to be. Whenever she gets annoyed, she's
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: just going to flee to her other apartment.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: Right, and now talk to me for days?
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Right?
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: So he says this is new for me.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 3: You weren't like this before, and she says, I'm not
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 3: okay with my life and I can't hug you when
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 3: I feel so unsure of things. I am questioning things,
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 3: and he says, like, what are you questioning? And she
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 3: says our compatibility and if we're even the right fit
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 3: to get married, and he tells us this is bullshit.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 3: I can't believe she has the balls to say that
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 3: to me, and she tells him every time I put
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 3: down a deposit.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: Or book something for the wedding with my money.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 3: I think, like, is this wedding even going to happen
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 3: and she he thinks for her this is just about money.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 3: But for me, I left my entire life to be here.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 3: And why didn't she tell me that she was questioning
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 3: all this before? I think she has tried to tell
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 3: him several times, like in the park, she told him
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 3: she was questioning things. Yeah, but she never had these
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 3: questions or told him before he came that she was
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 3: having these doubts.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: By the way, why didn't she He's got there plan
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: all this beforehand, like all the wedding stuff. She should
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: just had it all planned before they knew they were anyway,
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: that's neither here or there. But that's annoying to me, doo,
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: and like, why are you planning it? I'm sixty days out,
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: Like you should have already done all that. Yeah.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So their showdown in New York showdown continues.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: Well next time on Katie and her friends, it looks
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: like they're doing like a hin do you know, like
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: a hindoo instead of like a because he's British, because
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: they have on fascinators and they're like it was in
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: the middle of the day, like they're doing tea yea,
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: And she goes, you know, drunken like, let's play a
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: game and never have I ever, never ever has Josh
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: gone down on me. And they're like, okay, never ever
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: has Josh gone down on me either, Like that's not
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: how you play the game, dummy.
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: You just wanted to humiliate him and he's not even there.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And then in her talking head she goes, if
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: I have to have sex with the only Josh for
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: the rest of my life, it's going to be boring.
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: And uh, she says to her friends. Once I say
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: I do, I don't like want it Josh to be
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: like the only person for the rest of my life
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: that I can make out with, So I want to
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: talk to him about it, like like an open relationship.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: The whole thing that her whole personality is making out
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: is just beyond what.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 3: It is, like a mental illness of something. It's like
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 3: it's behavior like this, like sexual like everly sexual behavior
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 3: is can be part of like being bipolar or being
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 3: you know some I'm again not going to speculate, but
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 3: it is like a part of that. But again, she's
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 3: brought someone into this and she's not working on herself.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 3: And if he's not down with this sort of thing,
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 3: also foisting yourself on people who do not want you
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 3: to make out with them is not part of any
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 3: that is being.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: A sexual assaulter. So you are. It's it's not even
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 2: the same thing.
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: It's also surprising that something bad has not happened to
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: her with that kind of aggressive behavior you could run across.
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: A guy who's not doesn't just want to make out
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: is not going to turn out well for you. You know,
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: he's surprising. So Thomas says to Paula, he says, I
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: need my apartment to be a safe space from invasive smells.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: And she says, you know, I'm so sorry you were
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: born like this because it's so sad. And he says,
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: can you handle this? This is who I am and
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: what I need. And in the talking she goes, I
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 2: And he's fine on the farm, like.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of smells there.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's fine the hay, the horses, the cows,
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 3: like none of it bothers his galeries.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 2: She says, chemical allergies.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: She's not sure she can handle this for the rest
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: of her life. Rod and Maxwell talk and Rod says
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: to Maxwell, you're not established and I look at you
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: moving to the United States as a newborn baby, and
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: Maxwell says, okay, So if you don't trust me, you
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: should trust Asia because she's a very smart person. And
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: Rod says, well she was smart before now a ride.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: You just hate her by the way I looked it
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: up while we were talking. And you do have to
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: have a yellow fever vaccination ten days to four weeks
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: before you go to Nigeria, yes, days at least. So
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: suck at Matt Sharp so just kiddy, not mattch Sharp,
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: just Matt Sharp productions. So Raschid says, if you don't
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: want a baby, I will have to cut this relationship.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: And the talking head, she says, seeing him have no empathy,
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: maybe I should be the one to say we can
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: stop right here, buddy, go back to Turkey. She won't
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: do that. Shaye says to annabel Now I don't like
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: how things ended with Alison, and Annabelle says Alison is
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 1: a spoiled brat. Shaye and his talking head says, I
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: think they're literally both wrong. And we see them in
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: the car together, and Shae says to Alison, who's baby
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: sister in the back. Shaye says, to Alison, you got
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: a problem with the Annabel or something, and she goes, duh,
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: that's obvious she's a bitch, and Jay says, well, we're
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: getting married, so you guys have to work this out.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: Talking to Annabelle says, fuck her. I can't believe she
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: caught me a bitch.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 2: I didn't know if she calls you a bitch either.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 3: Usually Allison does the snide comments like behind her back,
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 3: but now she's she's over that.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 2: It's right to her face.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: She made fun of my church and I will not
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: tolerate it.
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 2: Well, also, Shay, you raised this.
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: Girl right, we're the other daughter. The other daughter was
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: only for one of them.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 3: Nice so like, but they even say Alison's the bitchy
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 3: one yea, Like why is everyone okay with that?
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: I don't know, because she's pretty. I don't know. Everarda
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: Marissa talk there by the waterfront and he says, we're halfway.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: We're on the halfway point to the ninety days now,
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: so we need to know if we're going to move
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: forward or not, and she goes, can't you give me
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: a chance to just think about it? And he goes, no,
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: I can't and walks off.
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, you should know by now.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: We know they're gonna get married, so it's gonna work out.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: All she needed was them to just stand up to
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: her one.
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 3: That's when the dynamic flipped and he had the upper
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 3: hand and that's what she needed.
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're going to bang it out. Do we
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: have time for a quick Kimberly's Corner?
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 3: Well, I watched part of Diaries. Do you want me
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 3: to do part of it? Or should I do it
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 3: next week?
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: Why don't we do it next week? Why don't we
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: do it next week? And who was on though I
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: didn't even.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 3: See Evelyn and Corey, Oh god, fleeing and we found
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 3: out what was happening with the fleeing the apartment situation.
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 2: Okay, Emma, Emma who banged Rob? And yeah, it's not
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 2: being nice to me and she's getting a Brazilian wax
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 2: with her twin sister. Yeah, a lot going on with Emma,
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 2: except not really. And then Vea and the dog sitter
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 2: mm hmm. She almost died because she had a benign
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 2: brain tumor.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 1: And again got real culty and religious on the internet
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: talk speaking.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 2: Because sometimes people go back, like on Plattville.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: Can you remind me how Veya is spelled? Is it V.
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 3: Why sh No, there was a j in there somewhere.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: Because I know, because I feel like was it? It
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: was it? Because it's like one of your kind of sisters.
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: I feel like it's because the e a h theya
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: name in the Bible. It doesn't appear in the Bible,
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: but it is short for navea heaven spelled backwards. Nailed it.
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: There we go, There we go, There we go. Because
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: she was raised in the religious cult kind of Amish
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: as well. Yeah what does She and ch Kina were
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: to see others like, hey girl, familiar.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 2: Wow sisters, cult sisters, high five, former cults.
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: Are you guys covering on dateline? The dateline that was
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: on Friday?
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 2: Uh? Yes we are because mystery.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: It was Blaine, Yes, and uh yeah I watched it.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 2: There was lots of mushrooms and I really hate mushrooms.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: I do too. I powered through and there was a
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: lady with a pretty severe tan, pretty severe tan going on.
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about it, but in a nice way,
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 2: because she have to.
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: I'm not past. I'm sure that you do, but I
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: will tell you right now. I was concerned about her melanoma.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: I know me too.
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 2: I did, I did say, get get your moles checked.
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, wow, Okay, everybody, make sure you are following
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: Kimberly and Katie at day Dayline, and that you're following
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 1: them over on YouTube, which is a date with K
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: and K. And you can also watch this video over
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: there as well on YouTube. We are there. That is
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: Pink Shade Bunkies this week, I got Keisha tomorrow and
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: do and welcome to the platform. Rewatch on Pink Shade
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: Prime and so good. I can't wait. I haven't watched
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: that episode yet. Gotta do that.
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 2: Wellbo a little bone to pick.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 3: I did hear you say to Keisha that it was
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 3: the highlight of your week recording with her?
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: Here's the problem. Keisha doesn't listen, and you do. And
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: I don't like that you talk about me on Dayline
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: all the time, and not always nicely. So don't wait
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: me start pulling some footage. You know why it's the
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: highlight of my week because it's so easy to do
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 1: the notes. Yeah, and because I've already watched it. It's
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: always gives me a little thrill to remember, Oh yeah,
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: this is terrible.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 2: And I know it's your favorite show on TV.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: It's my favorite show. And also Keisha doesn't know what's
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: going to happen, and I do, and I sort of.
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 2: Like that, yeah, and I get it, and she's delightful.
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 2: You get it.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: Keisha still doesn't know about Kimberly, I mean about Kimberly, sorry,
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: Kim and Olivia and why they initially had that fight
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: over the MLM money. She still doesn't know about that.
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: It's coming.
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 2: I'm so excited.
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: I'm so excited.
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 3: Already hates Kim a proper amount for where she is
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 3: in the show, and she can't imagine hating her anymore.
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 2: Right, it's gonna happen.
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: I told her. I was like, you just don't. You can't.
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: You can't imagine the heights you can go to with
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: this woman. Wait till Lydia's wedding. You won't believe it.
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  Speaker 1: You won't believe it. So anyway, that's on Wednesdays, everybody.
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  Speaker 3: And you said Ethan is racheful, and she was like, what,
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  Speaker 3: you have no idea.
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  Speaker 1: She could help. She's like, he gets more angry. I go,
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: oh my god, he's not even angry. Oh, we're gonna change.
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: I'm going to change the name. The five dollars level
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: of Pink Shade Prime from Andrea's Rage to Ethan's.
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  Speaker 2: Rage because we need Andre.
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  Speaker 1: Get out of here. God, get out of here, Andre.
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  Speaker 3: And don't flatter them. They'll take that as like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: they're talking about us. They want to bs, that's why
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 3: they talk about us.
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  Speaker 1: When I met him, I told him about it and
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  Speaker 1: he was like, what Andrea's rage, that's so funny. He
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  Speaker 1: didn't get it. He didn't get I was making fun
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: of him to his face. He didn't get it. That's
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: our show, everybody. We will see you later this week
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 1: and again these new shows Age Inappropriate and Double Lives
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: and subir and Wives, all these shows we will be covering.
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: Things are switching around a little bit. Also, Hey, I
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: forgot to say this week Thursday. If you're on Pink
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 1: Shade Prime, it's Thursday Night Live, Pink Shade Live on Thursday.
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  Speaker 1: That'll be at eight pm Eastern time. So I gotta
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: let's see. I gotta look.
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 2: I'll put the log I don't have jury duty.
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: When are you finding out?
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  Speaker 2: I got it.
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 3: I'm on standby, so I have to call Monday. I
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 3: called on Friday. They said, you're on standby. You don't
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 3: have to come in on Monday. I have to call
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 3: Monday night. They're probably gonna say, you don't have to
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 3: come on Tuesday.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: Call Tuesday night.
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  Speaker 2: But every night I'm gonna have to call this.
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: Current week that we're in, or you talk about next week,
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  Speaker 1: next week.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I call Friday, but pink Thursday this week.
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  Speaker 3: Sorry I forgot, we're on We're in Monday now this
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 3: current week.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, all right, Well if you can't be there.
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 2: But I have to call tonight to find out about tomorrow,
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 2: and then each night at five pm.
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: Okay, if if you can't make it on Thursday Night Live,
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  Speaker 1: we will switch it to another night. Because the point
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: is staff, the three of us.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, let make sure, okay, everybody by the month
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  Speaker 2: time