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The IU Report with Grant Shouse & Mike Hutsell (2.161.1) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

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  [SPEAKER_00]: You are listening to the IAU report with Grant Shouse and my Cutsal every Tuesday on the Central Indiana Sports Report.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Welcome back, IU fans.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It's the IU report Grant Shouse, my cuttle, Greg Minkell as well.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, a lot of the stuff we've talked about on here of course has to do with football, of course with the late rock, kind of hate to admit it, but basketball's been a little bit on the back burner just to hair here recently, but now basketball is kind of emerging right now and
• 1:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Indiana, two quad one wins this week against Purdue, which was, you know, great to beat your rivals, especially at home, and then go out on the road and beat UCLA the way they did.
• 1:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Wasn't pretty, but got the job done, Mike.
• 1:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I texted you immediately after the game, I was like, how do you go from a catastrophic
• 1:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: in two years in the span of two over times, but they managed to do it.
• 1:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Probably should have never gotten there.
• 1:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: You can feel however what you want to feel about not fouling up three, but should have never got to a point where a three pointer would have tied it, if it were being real here.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But to go into overtime with in-right going to the bench, no point guard.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: and to get through that read Bailey, who had a great night, he fouls out.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You've got Nick Dorn, Tucker to Freeze, Lamar Wilkerson, guys playing almost 50 minutes in the game.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: There were more than one time in the two over times where it felt like we let this one slip away UCLA is going to pull it out.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And the second over time, Trent Perry, who went from a guy I've never heard of to maybe my least favorite player in the Big 10 and the span of about two and a half hours on Saturday, hits a three.
• 2:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: They go up 93 to 90 and I'm like games over and he has done.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: They just
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  [SPEAKER_01]: They got the win, that's the first time UCLA's lost at home.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think 14 games at a 14 game home winning streak going into that.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So you kept off a heck of a week with the Purdue win and then to go out there and beat that team who was playing pretty well going in and to just pull that out when it really
• 3:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'll tell you what, this past week I've really become a door and at it is the emergency has been really good.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm going on Twitter, it's saying that he's now like the Charlie Becker or the basketball team, like he's just just come on at the right time and he's making plays.
• 3:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: And they're better with him on the floor.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, he was the guy that, you know, they're just trying to ease into the role there at the start of the year.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And what's the playing as much as maybe should of.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And now he's coming in and he's he's hitting shots.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: He was the real big part of their success against Purdue against UCLA and staying out there again tonight against USC is going to be big at these able to put together the type of games that he's put together recently then.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I think this team is really going to be a tough team to beat down the stretch because now you're hopefully knock on what I guess, but you're certain to get through that rough patch there that we talked about a few weeks ago, we're like, they got into brass guy and Iowa and Purdue, Michigan, Michigan State, you're certain to kind of get out of that a little bit and down the stretch of the year you got games that are still going to be tough to win, don't get me wrong because they're in the, uh, uh, there's still conference games, but
• 4:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're no question, I think headed for better days and more winnable games you're down the stretch.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the key thing with Dorn is, just, we've talked about adding a third score to this team, but more importantly than that is, Nina has now has three guys that you can't leave on the perimeter and Wilkerson de Vries and now Dorn.
• 4:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: And even to that effect, I feel like that's open things up a little bit and you're starting to see a little more
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I can't believe I'm about to say it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Read Bailey because they're not sagging in and running two, three guys on him because they can't leave Dorn in the corner.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So Bailey's getting a little more one-on-one opportunity and you saw on Saturday when he had an opportunity, he played through physicality.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He looked a lot better and I think just Dorn spacing is really going to help out with Alexis and Bailey, who neither one of which are going to be great post scores, but just freeing up that space inside.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And in right, he's never going to be a guy that you want to shoot five three pointers in a game, but he's capable of knocking down two.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So at this point with Dorn out there.
• 5:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: you've got four guys on the perimeter who you have to account for and you can't clog the lane and you can run a little bit more back cuts you can.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: If you get running downhill, people are going to leave to protect the room.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You might get an opportunity to get a layup.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: LeBarrocusen did that several times in the overtime session.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: They weren't leaving Dorn, so he beat his man off the dribble, and he just was able to get to the rim.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think the basket that eventually won the game, that's effectively what happened.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Tucker DeVries had a possession where he was running point,
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He ends up getting beating his guy out the dribble.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: They don't want to leave.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He finds Alexis and Alexis gets a layup that cuts the lead from I think three to one.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So the added element of offense by Doran's emergence and the three point shooting especially has done nothing but help this team.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And hopefully that's something that you can see continue moving forward.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's going to be exciting because I think that
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I think the theme is fun to watch sometimes.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, when they're losing and not playing well, it's not fun, but we said it all year, they've lived and died by the three.
• 7:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: And hopefully, you can see them start to come out of that a little bit of living and dying by the three and just being more consistent.
• 7:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: the UCLA game is just like the perfect, the perfect game for your resume.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Like you had to have that game, especially to steal one on the road the way you did it over time.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Shoutout Trent Sysley dude, getting fouled there with three tenths of the second knocking down clutch freezers for the freshman.
• 7:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't think that that's an accident at this point date.
• 7:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: They ran that play against Purdue, 0.6 seconds on the shot clock.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He gets free.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He gets the ball.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He draws a foul.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And then in this game, 1.1 seconds left in the game, they run almost the exact same play.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He gets free.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He knows how to sell it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He knows how to get open on the cut and he knows how to sell the foul.
• 8:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: You don't ever see every day, it just shows the potential I think that this kid can have as he grows into being a player because he's got a lot of things that he's good at that you can't teach and that was
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  [SPEAKER_01]: such a cool moment for him.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He's kind of falling a little bit out of favor.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He's not played as many minutes in the rotation.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He struggled a little bit a couple times, even in that game, missing some free throws.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And you're not quite sure how he's going to step up there with 0.3 seconds on the clock.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And the entire game on the line.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And he steps right up there and hits the first one.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And at that point, it's basically over because you're almost asking him to miss the second one.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Hey guys, I was the, this does, that's not to do a little bit with Indiana basketball here.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Last night at the Pacers game, I was briefed that, Pat Nye, who is the echo chip marrying university has resigned.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Of course, we know who that is.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: He has resigned mid-season.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Apparently, there, there was an incident in a game a few days ago.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It's Goshen where he completely had
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  [SPEAKER_02]: A tire aid, a meltdown, similar to the one of his father, multiple of his father, and he has resigned and stepped out in his season at Marion University.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And which is crazy, because like to I, you can actually therefore, with him being who he is, and Steve Downing being the AD there, I just thought that should pass that along.
• 9:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's surprising.
• 9:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: That just seemed like a marriage that was going to go, well, I hate to hear that Pat was never able to really latch on and become a thing as a D1 coach, but I thought he had found a pretty good spot for him to continue his coaching career.
• 9:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I hate that that happened.
• 9:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: You hate to see bad things happen to guys that you grew up watching.
• 10:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: And but sometimes things happen because people
• 10:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: do things to deserve for them to happen.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So I haven't seen the incident.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I haven't read about the incident.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what happened.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't want to say this is bull crap because I don't know.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He may well be getting exactly what he should be getting for for what's going on.
• 10:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: But it is it is not.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's surprising because that seemed like something that was going to, the fans were going to get behind it, gave Indiana fans an opportunity to follow one of their own at a local level.
• 10:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: And like he said, he was working for another IU guy, who is the AD there.
• 10:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: So little frustrating, I'm going to have to do a little more research on the incident to have really been, I've really been in tune with it.
• 10:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's the day he was hired.
• 10:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: He took over a program for a coach that got ahead of you ended up going to the University of Indianapolis.
• 11:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it did seem like the perfect marriage at the start.
• 11:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I think he realized that this was going to take time.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And you were going to have to really recruit the lead, or really recruit the state good at the high school level.
• 11:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it kind of was things weren't necessarily working out.
• 11:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think.
• 11:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: There had been some other instances that had happened with them, and I hate to see it happen because I've got to know him a little bit.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I've been able to talk to him.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I actually went to his introductory press conference at Marion, and it was pretty cool to sit down and talk to him.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And it kind of bumped into him at high school stuff.
• 11:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I've always talked with him and changed the lows.
• 11:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: I hate to see it happen to him because I've got a couple of friends down there at Marion and they they called me and told me and then I I looked into it and it had happened it sucks because I felt like you could really do a good job, but it just didn't seem like the right fit here and you're you're two year year and a half two years of him being echoed so just thought I passed that along.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So the Hoosiers played tonight, Grant.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Chance to pick up win number four in a row.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Chance to pick up the third quad one win in the span of a week.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And a chance to play a basketball game where there's absolutely zero chance and hell that I'm gonna be able to stay awake for the end of it because
• 12:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: uh... i'm gonna go make crone him here and say this is ridiculous ten eight ten p.a.
• 12:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: uh... u.s.c.
• 12:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: on peacock complete the trifecta three and a row on on on peacock can't wait for that my god mike i i just i can't stand peacock
• 13:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: I can't something happen with my log in to where like I cannot log in on any other device other than like the one on my main Roku TV, like I could not get it on my phone.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I can't get it on my laptop.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So if there's a game on peak, I gotta watch it on the main TV at home.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So I'll stay up.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I'll watch it.
• 13:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'll spare you and hopefully we're watching Indiana get their third win in a row.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: third-quad one win in a row, especially on the road north out there U.S. C or one win, be there for the overall.
• 13:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and statistically it looks like a game that Indiana should, if you go about metrics should be favored, the Vegas line came out of believe it, USC by a point and a half, but the ESPN predictor has a neon at 57% the thing about USC is they have a lot of guys that play at least 10 minutes again.
• 14:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: and they played on Saturday, just like Indiana did, but they didn't play two extra sessions on Saturday, like Indiana did, and they didn't have anybody play 49 minutes like Indiana did, and I think three guys who hit 49 minutes, the only thing that's gotten Connor and right off the floor, the last two games was he fouled out with nine seconds left,
• 14:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: in regulation of the UCLA game, or he probably would be another guy who would have pushed 50 minutes on Saturday.
• 14:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: So that's a 72 hour turnaround.
• 14:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: These are something you're all guys.
• 14:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: You would like to think that the minutes aren't going to make a huge difference, but you're probably kidding yourself.
• 14:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: If you don't think there's a little bit of a hangover from that.
• 14:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: And USC is, it's an Eric Musselman team and they don't lose when they get off the bus as they say athletically they're gifted Chad Baker Mazzara the guy who I know is at least three years older than Grant and still playing college basketball officially off of his parents health insurance as of last week when he had a birthday so congratulations to him hit that market place buddy.
• 15:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: happy birthday.
• 15:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it's another, it's a muscle and teen that's filled with transfers.
• 15:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's what bus likes to do.
• 15:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: Rodney Rice was supposed to come in from Maryland to be their point guard and at early in the season he was and they were doing really really well.
• 15:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: But he has been hurt.
• 15:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: Doesn't look like he'll be back this year.
• 15:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: They just added recently Gilbert Arena's son who had been hurt.
• 15:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: He just started to come back.
• 15:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's playing more Kim Woods a guy that transferred in from
• 16:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not even going to get.
• 16:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was too late, but that's that's strictly a guess.
• 16:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: He had a huge night last week when they almost came back from 16 down to be Iowa and Iowa City.
• 16:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: And this is just one of those teams that Indian is going to face that's in that lump of teams that they're competing against they're that six through 12 mass of teams in this conference that are on the elite level of Illinois per do Michigan Michigan state in Nebraska, but.
• 16:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're playing for seeding in Chicago for the big 10 tournament.
• 16:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, it's going to be, it would be huge to get the win.
• 16:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: It would probably up their turny odds to around 80 to 85% right now.
• 16:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: And Ian went from about the 10th team out of the tournament to,
• 16:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: being discussed on the seven eight line in the span of just a week and if you keep stacking winds and this is their and I'm going to use air quotes that you can see easiest quad one win opportunity left on the schedule so it would be it would be a huge huge.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: victory if they if they came out of this, not a lot of teams go to LA and win both games and this conference.
• 17:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not even being a sarcastic, you know what when I say Purdue wasn't able to do it just a couple weeks ago.
• 17:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a tough trip.
• 17:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Nick Crone and I'll tell you it's the most rugged trip in the world to have to travel first class to Los Angeles on an airplane and play two basketball games in about 72 hours stretch.
• 17:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Huge opportunity for Indiana, a game that I feel
• 17:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: Food very well be favored by the time the the game tips off so get it done stack these wins man let's let's attack February and
• 17:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Making the tournament in the first year of DeVries when he completely turned his roster over would be such a huge, huge W for him and his tenure.
• 18:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: So just get it done.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And this is an opportunity to really, really submit your chance to do that.
• 18:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: Katie forgot, Indiana did when that I have to change these two weeks ago.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm defeated.
• 18:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: just figured just because of all the basketball success that people may have forgotten.
• 18:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: But of course we know a friend of mine does just probably got to be the number one over all dick in the NFL draft and you have multiple guys that are, you know, three or four guys they're going to be taking it in the first few rounds.
• 18:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: The end to low on to be in one of them Elijah's Rad of the League is the another one to correct Mike.
• 18:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, both the receivers I think are projected to be at least first three round choices.
• 19:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: It would have been nice to get Omar Cooper back for another year because I know he had another year but imagine the the three headed monster at wide receiver next year if you had Nick Marsh, Charlie Becker and Omar Cooper Jr. That is just that is a dream wide receiver for
• 19:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: So this is a draft class you're going to have more Indiana guys drafted in one draft class than ever, which I guess happens when you have an actual championship and those are just the guys that are going in the first, you know, two, three, four rounds.
• 19:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: You factor in other guys like Pat Cug and he's probably going to get drafted eight and fishers probably going to get drafted as well.
• 19:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's so many guys that are going to end up getting drafted from this team.
• 19:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: are making an impact or are going to make an impact with some NFL franchise here in the next two years.
• 19:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, one guy who you haven't listed yet, but who just recently went to the senior
• 20:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: It went from maybe a 7th round guy to a undrafted type of guy to you could probably see him and maybe as high as the fifth round is key on black the running back.
• 20:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Not a lot of people draft running backs, running backs don't really particularly go as high as they used to, unless they're like an astronaut, genty or Jeremiah love will this year.
• 20:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: But black, he really made a name for himself and the playoff, the way he ran against Bama.
• 20:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then in the national title game, he was the guy that signet he seemed to trust the most in some of those key spots in the fourth quarter when they were picking up yardage on first down.
• 20:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: But he really showed out well and is route running as far as a receiver goes at the senior bull.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He his past pro has always been something he's good at.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And those are things that NFL scouts love.
• 21:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: And once Phil starts going around on him and if he has a pro day at IU where he runs, even a remotely good 40, he's gonna be another guy that you see get picked.
• 21:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then you talked about Cougan, you talked about Fisher, Lou Moore.
• 21:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: is he going to get picked?
• 21:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's a safety who did nothing but make plays all year.
• 21:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: You would like to think that somebody's going to find a spot for him.
• 21:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was true.
• 21:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: So at one point there was an ESPN article that said 15 Indiana guys could get drafted.
• 21:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's crazy in that that accounted for guys like Carter Smith, who we know is going back.
• 21:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think they had
• 21:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Tyree Tucker on that list, we know he's going back, so you probably, obviously, you're going to go down, but if Indiana gets nine guys drafted in the NFL draft, that's more than maybe anything, a national title undefeated season, you're never going to top that, but from a recruiting standpoint, six, never going to have more.
• 22:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: to hang his hat on and then say, look, I just took a bunch of J.M.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: you guys and got nine guys drafted in the NFL draft.
• 22:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: What more can this guy put on paper to to sell the recruits, then 16 and a national title, Iasman trophy winner, and oh, yeah, by the way, nine of my guys just got picked to play on Sunday.
• 22:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: Thanks so much to Mike and Grant for joining me.
• 22:49
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