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ROR 140: Incentives · Red Onion Randy - Life in a Supermax Prison

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  Speaker 1: you enjoyed today's episode. I'm kind of torn, to be
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  Speaker 1: honest with you. I'm happy to see that in Virginua
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  Speaker 1: Department of Corrections it's starting to, you know, throw a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of incentives towards those of us who have
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  Speaker 1: actually been behaving ourselves. So on the other hand, I'm
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  Speaker 1: a little freaking pissed off about it too. I've been
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  Speaker 1: pushing incentives for a very long time and I see
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  Speaker 1: that they finally, you know, basically kind of listened to me.
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  Speaker 1: Though they the way they're doing it, it seems like
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  Speaker 1: they're just freaking stealing it from me and instead of actually,
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  Speaker 1: you know, working with me for years red Onion and
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  Speaker 1: Wallace Ridge. I have I have talked to majors. I've
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  Speaker 1: talked to the ip ms, which you know, an IPM
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  Speaker 1: stands for Institutional program Manager. UH. This is the person
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  Speaker 1: who's in charge of all of the counselors. He's this
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  Speaker 1: person would be in charge of, you know, every program
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  Speaker 1: that the prison does, and and so on and so forth.
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  Speaker 1: You know, people's could behavior transfers and what have you.
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  Speaker 1: I've spoken to assistant wardens, I've spoken to wardens. I've
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  Speaker 1: sent requests and I've sent letters. I even sent a
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  Speaker 1: list to Gay Gardner and had Gay Gardner email it
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  Speaker 1: to the higher ups in Richmond. So on November fourteenth,
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, I come down, sink my player to
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  Speaker 1: the kiosk, and I have an email from the JPA representative,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm not going to read the whole thing, but
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  Speaker 1: i am going to read for bits and parts of
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  Speaker 1: what is said. We have exciting news to share. Lawrenceville
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  Speaker 1: Correctional Center for LVCC has officially transitioned from a privatized
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  Speaker 1: facility to one operated by the Virginia Department of Corrections.
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  Speaker 1: As Virginia's first incentivized prison, LVCC is set to be
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  Speaker 1: a model for the future of our correctional facilities. LVCC
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  Speaker 1: aims to foster a supportive community environment, welcoming individuals who
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  Speaker 1: have demonstrated positive behavior. To qualify for a transfer to LVCC.
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  Speaker 1: You must have been free of major infractions for the
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  Speaker 1: past four years and show no recent history of drug
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  Speaker 1: use assaults for safety threatening behaviors. As a transferring to
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  Speaker 1: LVCC means joining a community of like minded individuals dedicated
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  Speaker 1: to positive change. Here are some of the initial incentives
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  Speaker 1: implemented in the first ninety days that you can look
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  Speaker 1: forward to. And enhanced meal menu, improved mattresses, access to
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  Speaker 1: various programs including Virginia Department of Corrections curriculums and religious activities,
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  Speaker 1: inmate led seminars and workshops topics like health and Wellness workshop,
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  Speaker 1: pure support groups, a guttering group, accountability workshop, art therapy,
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  Speaker 1: fanger knitting, slash crochet domestic violence workshop, public speaking, creative writing,
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  Speaker 1: and many more. And opportunities to engage with external resources
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  Speaker 1: and stakeholders. You know. And he goes on to say
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  Speaker 1: that the Lawrenceville Correctional Center is enhancing perimeter security to
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  Speaker 1: accommodate Security Level four inmates in the future, but transfers
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  Speaker 1: are currently limited to those inmates at Security Level W
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  Speaker 1: level one, level two, and level three, So basically that
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  Speaker 1: means I'm freaking screwed, you know, even though I've been
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  Speaker 1: eighteen and a half almost nineteen years charge free, even
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  Speaker 1: though I have only eighteen security points, and that means
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  Speaker 1: I'm actually one point away from being a level two
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  Speaker 1: now because I have capital murder, two hundred and fourteen
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  Speaker 1: years in prison and so on and so forth. I
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  Speaker 1: will never ever, ever, ever see a level two institution
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  Speaker 1: unless I'm driving by that some bitch on the way
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  Speaker 1: someplace else, which quite frankly, is okay with me, you know. You. Granted,
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  Speaker 1: I would love some of the work opportunities, because they
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  Speaker 1: actually do some real work on level twos and level ones,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm not going to a dorm. I can't have
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  Speaker 1: one sally, much less two hundred of them living in
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  Speaker 1: a dorm, and that's just not going to happen. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't do that. They couldn't pay me to do that.
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't go simply because I know I'll slatch out
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  Speaker 1: of somebody, you know at night for talking while I'm
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  Speaker 1: trying to sleep, making noise and banging and doing all
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  Speaker 1: that stupid stuff. And there's no cell that I have
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  Speaker 1: to stay in until the next morning, you know, to
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  Speaker 1: give me that chance of calming down, Like I literally
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  Speaker 1: just step out of bid. It's over. With so you know,
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  Speaker 1: probably for the best. But my thing is this, so far,
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  Speaker 1: you've got four incent is for those of us who
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  Speaker 1: are behaving ourselves and doing good. One you get an
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  Speaker 1: enhanced meal menu. Well, as a human being, we should
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  Speaker 1: be said decently in the first place, I shouldn't have
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  Speaker 1: to behave myself to get a decent meal. At the
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  Speaker 1: end of the day, we've proven in here that we're
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  Speaker 1: not worthy of society. I'll give you that if you
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  Speaker 1: won't get no arguments out of meat, all right, But
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  Speaker 1: whether we're doing the right thing or not should not
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  Speaker 1: determine how we eat. You can't sit there and say that,
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  Speaker 1: well you're going to get real meat. That's an incentive
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  Speaker 1: for behaving yourself. No, that's caused in decency on your part.
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  Speaker 1: You're supposed to be better than us. Your whole job
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  Speaker 1: running the Department of Corrections, working in the Department of
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  Speaker 1: Corrections is to be a living example to us of
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  Speaker 1: how to be a real man, of how to be responsible,
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  Speaker 1: how to be a good person. Like that's what y'all do.
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  Speaker 1: Like you're supposed to be a living example to us.
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  Speaker 1: You don't sit there and say, well, if you behave yourself,
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  Speaker 1: will feed you like a normal human being, and if
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  Speaker 1: you don't, I mean it's so that's not an incentive.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that's not an incentive, then improved mattresses. I
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  Speaker 1: could probably go on a five hour rant on this alone.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to the promise. I will keep it
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  Speaker 1: short and sweet, all right. It has been proven scientifically
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  Speaker 1: and medically for decades upon decades upon decades that a
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  Speaker 1: person's mental and emotional well being is tied directly to
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  Speaker 1: the amount and quality of sleep that a person gets.
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  Speaker 1: So what you're telling me by this email is that
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  Speaker 1: if I don't behave myself, I can't get a decent
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  Speaker 1: mattress to sleep on. But the thing is, again, medical
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  Speaker 1: and scientific studies have shown that the better quality and
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  Speaker 1: the longer you sleep, the better sleep you get, the
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  Speaker 1: healthier you will be mentally and emotionally. You won't be
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  Speaker 1: groggy and upset because you couldn't sleep last night, and
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  Speaker 1: so on and so like, I would think that y'all
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  Speaker 1: would want to go ahead and give us the best
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  Speaker 1: mattresses that y'all can afford to give us so that
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  Speaker 1: we're getting good quality sleep, so that we wake up
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  Speaker 1: rested and we're freshed, and we're not on edge and
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  Speaker 1: upset and cranky groggy all day long, and because of
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  Speaker 1: the good sleep, we would be more willing to let
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  Speaker 1: things that bother us through out today slide, because well, hell,
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  Speaker 1: we're feeling pretty good about a sales right now. I'm okay,
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  Speaker 1: So that's not an incentive right there. I'm sorry, but
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  Speaker 1: that's not an incentive again that y'all should give us
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  Speaker 1: that because you're decent human beings and you're trying to
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  Speaker 1: show us a better way. Okay, So then your third
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  Speaker 1: incentives is I can go to programs. Well, hell, I
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  Speaker 1: can go to programs right now. I've got more certificates
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  Speaker 1: than a dog has fleas. I've passed anger management multiple times.
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  Speaker 1: I've done the Thanking for a change twice. I've done
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  Speaker 1: all of these different programs in here. And that's an
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  Speaker 1: incentive for me to behave myself, is to I get
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  Speaker 1: to go to a new program. Oh damn, this is
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  Speaker 1: a good time to be alive in the Virginia Department
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  Speaker 1: of Corrections. The only one on there that I saw
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  Speaker 1: that might be an actual real incentive is I get
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  Speaker 1: an opportunity to talk to some outside groups. You know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe need some you know, some type of support or
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  Speaker 1: something of that nature. Like I don't see a single
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  Speaker 1: incentive on here, like I don't. I don't see a
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  Speaker 1: real incentive on here, just not one. You know. I'm
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  Speaker 1: glad to see that you're taking steps. I really am,
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  Speaker 1: I Director Dotson, I'll plauch you because it does actually
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  Speaker 1: seem like since you came into the system and took
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  Speaker 1: over for Harold Clark after he got fired because of
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  Speaker 1: all of the overdose deaths, you know, under his wash,
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  Speaker 1: it seems like prison has improved a little bit for
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  Speaker 1: us in here. You know. I want to see more
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  Speaker 1: from you, you know, but I do like the way
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  Speaker 1: it's trending. It does seem like it's doing pretty good
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  Speaker 1: so far. But I'm actually going to get I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: sit here and throw out some of the incentives that
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  Speaker 1: I've been pushing for for years. All right, So here's
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  Speaker 1: just a few of them. I'm not gonna give you
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  Speaker 1: all of them because it's several pages work. But if
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  Speaker 1: you're charge free for a certain amount of time, you
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  Speaker 1: get to add more phone numbers to your call list.
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  Speaker 1: Now as of right now, even though I'm almost nineteen
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  Speaker 1: years charge frue, I can only call fifteen people. The
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  Speaker 1: exact same is somebody who murdered somebody this morning. Literally
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  Speaker 1: the ult I have no insentive whatsoever to behave myself
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  Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, I have the
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  Speaker 1: exact same insensus as somebody who murdered somebody two minutes
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  Speaker 1: ago has I can buy TV, and I can buy commissary.
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  Speaker 1: And the only thing I need to buy TV and
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  Speaker 1: Commissary is the money to buy it. That's it. Literally,
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  Speaker 1: there's nothing else. There's no difference between me the guy
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  Speaker 1: who's damn near done two decades charge Tree, which no
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  Speaker 1: one in Virginia has come close to, to the best
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  Speaker 1: of my knowledge, Like I've literally heard of no one,
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  Speaker 1: and I've had staff members tell me the exact same thing.
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  Speaker 1: You know, they're actually shocked when they find out I've
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  Speaker 1: been eighteen and a half. Here's charge Tree. So this
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  Speaker 1: is mine, this is this is my incentive. You've been
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  Speaker 1: charge three for let's say, let's say five years, you're
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  Speaker 1: charge free. You can go from fifteen phone numbers on
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  Speaker 1: your call list up to twenty numbers. If you've been
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  Speaker 1: ten years chargery, you can go from twenty numbers to
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  Speaker 1: thirty numbers on your call list. If you've done over
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  Speaker 1: fifteen years charge free, you should be able to call
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  Speaker 1: as many numbers as you want to and the Virginia
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  Speaker 1: Department of Correction should give you five free twenty many
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  Speaker 1: phone calls every week for being fifteen years charge free.
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  Speaker 1: You know, if you're one year charge free, you can
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  Speaker 1: order a poster for yourself, no nudity, you know, no
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  Speaker 1: gang related material or things like that. Well, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you can order your favorite sports teams. You can order
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  Speaker 1: your favorite player or a poster on a car, an animal, religious, fantasy,
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  Speaker 1: video games, etc. Like whatever you're into. You know, as
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  Speaker 1: long as it doesn't you know, violate you know, precedure
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  Speaker 1: protocol in the rules of the institution. You can have
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  Speaker 1: your family go to Amazon or Walmart or you know
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  Speaker 1: dot com and order the posters, send it to the
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  Speaker 1: central distribution mail center and they send it up here
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  Speaker 1: after they search you for drugs, and then you can
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  Speaker 1: you can hang it up in yourself. You know, if
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  Speaker 1: you've been ten to fifteen years charge for your family
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  Speaker 1: can order care packages once a month, either on you know,
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  Speaker 1: from Amazon or Walmart or something meaning you know, they
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  Speaker 1: can't order glass items you can't order metal items. However,
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  Speaker 1: you can you know, you can order boxes of cereal.
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  Speaker 1: You can order jars of peanut butter. You can order
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  Speaker 1: candy bars or chips or you know. For me, I
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  Speaker 1: would want healthy items, you know, I would want like
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  Speaker 1: bag meals of vegetables and you know, stews and soups
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  Speaker 1: and stuff like that. You know, the meals you're ready
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  Speaker 1: to eat. You know, that's the kind of things I
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  Speaker 1: would be into. You know, But like I said, for
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  Speaker 1: something of that nature, and yeah, it has to go
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  Speaker 1: through the Central Male Distribution warehouse, but you have to
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  Speaker 1: be at least ten years charge read to get a
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  Speaker 1: care package your home that has nothing to do with
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  Speaker 1: commissary and it has nothing to do with you know,
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  Speaker 1: the so called holiday packages. This is your family being
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  Speaker 1: able to go on to Walmart or Amazon dot com
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  Speaker 1: and actually order some really good stuff that we just
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  Speaker 1: will never ever get in prison otherwise. You know, if
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  Speaker 1: you've been charged free for a certain amount of time,
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  Speaker 1: I would say at least two years, you can go
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  Speaker 1: to the gym once a month, and you know, the
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  Speaker 1: kitchen will make homemade ice cream and they'll make homemade
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  Speaker 1: pizza into chowehall and they just you know, they take
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  Speaker 1: it down. Man, all the guys, that's been two years.
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  Speaker 1: Charge three. You know, look, you put a big movie
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  Speaker 1: projector in there, you know, to play a big movie
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  Speaker 1: on the wall or whatnot. You cut the lights out
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  Speaker 1: and we sit there and get to watch a really
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  Speaker 1: good movie and you know, eat pizza and ice cream
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  Speaker 1: and you know, just talk, mingle, play games or something
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  Speaker 1: like that. Like that's something worth behaving yourself. You know.
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  Speaker 1: If you're charge three for five years, and if you
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  Speaker 1: would like to get an animal companion, you can't you know,
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  Speaker 1: you know me, I would choose a dog. Of course,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think that was the prize anybody. But that's
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  Speaker 1: the thing. You can't. Don't give us a full sized dog,
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  Speaker 1: you know, or medium, Like it has to be basically
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  Speaker 1: a lap dog, you know, a dashdound, a beagle, a
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  Speaker 1: shitsu or you know, a Jack Russell something along those lines.
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  Speaker 1: So you think Jack Russell's a way too energetic to
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  Speaker 1: be allowed in here. Just that's just my opinion. You know,
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  Speaker 1: they'd go crazy in itself. But like, if you have
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  Speaker 1: been charged, you know, charge three for five years, you
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  Speaker 1: have the option of applying for a dog, and yeah,
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  Speaker 1: other inmates that haven't been charge three would get to
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  Speaker 1: play with the dog and so on and so forth.
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  Speaker 1: But it's you know, being able to play with the
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  Speaker 1: dog and being able to you know, have that dog
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  Speaker 1: is It's two different things, you know. And it would,
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  Speaker 1: oh my lord, y'all have no idea the impact and
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  Speaker 1: the difference a dog coming into pod would be. It
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  Speaker 1: really would calm a lot of things down because and
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  Speaker 1: I know this for a fact because there are oh
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  Speaker 1: damn what was his name Reynolds counselor Reynolds and then
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  Speaker 1: he was TPM Renolds and then he became a unit manager. Reynolds.
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  Speaker 1: He actually used to walk around red Onion and Wallace Ridge,
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  Speaker 1: uh with a little beagle name Benny. And like I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you would see the faces on the inmates was light
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  Speaker 1: up like a Christmas tree in the middle of the night.
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  Speaker 1: When that dogs. You have one minute, you know, your
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  Speaker 1: personal books, Like right now we're only allowed to have
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  Speaker 1: thirteen books, but if you've been change free for two
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  Speaker 1: three four years, you're allowed to have thirty books. If
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  Speaker 1: you get transferred, you simply have to pay for the
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  Speaker 1: transportation of them. You can order a nineteen inch TV
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  Speaker 1: with a remote, you know. I mean, there's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of things that they could do, but an enhanced meal
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  Speaker 1: plan and an improved mattress and going to a program,
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  Speaker 1: those are not incentives what I just read off. Those
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  Speaker 1: are incentives. Let's see more in the area of that,
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  Speaker 1: and you'll see people start to behave them themselves. I've
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