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  Speaker 1: We are into the summer, which means we have our
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  Speaker 1: Inside the Birds Football at four summer mailbag questions we've
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  Speaker 1: our summer Eagles mail bag questions for the guys, and
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  Speaker 1: today in the hot seat, it's Andrew to checko from
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  Speaker 1: the Inside of the Birds podcast as he has our
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  Speaker 1: football at four summer mail bag questions. What's going on? Andrew, Hey, Mike,
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  Speaker 1: how are you?
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing great.
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  Speaker 1: We're doing good, man, And a lot of questions building
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  Speaker 1: up in the mail bag as we count down to
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  Speaker 1: training camp. I think Adam said on Friday show, we
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  Speaker 1: are about five weeks away to Eagles training camp. So
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  Speaker 1: here we go. We got a lot of questions for you, Andrew,
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  Speaker 1: Here we go. Let's get the first one. This is
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  Speaker 1: from Dave in Summer's Points at First off, Andrew love
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  Speaker 1: your appearances. He asked this question with Aj Brown gone,
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  Speaker 1: DeVante Smith is here. Who do you look at? He says,
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  Speaker 1: My question is how do all these pieces fit together?
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  Speaker 1: Who takes that number two and three spot at wide
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  Speaker 1: receiver during training camp?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, first off, Dave, I appreciate the kid words.
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  Speaker 2: And then when you look at this wide receiver group,
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  Speaker 2: they have a lot of diversity in terms of what
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  Speaker 2: they can bring from a skill set perspective. Obviously, Devonte
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  Speaker 2: Smith will be the top option there. But then depending
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  Speaker 2: on how you look at it, I view makay Lemon
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  Speaker 2: as an inside slot receiver. He can play outside, but
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  Speaker 2: predominantly I imagine he's going to operate outside of the slot.
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  Speaker 2: Do I think will command more targets than the third
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  Speaker 2: player I'm gonna mention in Dantavian Wicks. Yeah, probably, But
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  Speaker 2: I think Dntavian Wicks gives you that bigger body receiver
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  Speaker 2: that you're gonna win on the field more often than not.
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  Speaker 2: He can be that boundary X type of player six
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  Speaker 2: foot one, two hundred and six pounds. He's more of
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  Speaker 2: a short to intermediate guy who can separate at the
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  Speaker 2: top of routes and be sort of a safety valve
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  Speaker 2: of sorts. I think Makayle Lemon, to that end, could
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  Speaker 2: also fill that role as well as being someone who
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  Speaker 2: can work the middle of the field. But he can
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  Speaker 2: also catch and run and create yards after the catch.
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  Speaker 2: So I think if you're looking at it in terms
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  Speaker 2: of target share, mackay Lemon would be the number two,
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  Speaker 2: But don Tavian Wix gives you a little bit more
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  Speaker 2: flexibility in terms of what you can do from a
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  Speaker 2: personnel perspective, and so I think that that's kind of
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  Speaker 2: the way you're going to see it shape up, all right.
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  Speaker 1: This one is from Sam over an egg Harbor Township
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  Speaker 1: by says Yo Andrew, help me figure this out. We
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  Speaker 1: brought in Woolen and Jonathan Jones. We have Mitchell, Cooper
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  Speaker 1: Degene looks like he's going to safety. Do you think
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  Speaker 1: the corners are going to be better this season?
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  Speaker 2: Yo, Sam, Yes, I do believe so, and so Riequollan.
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  Speaker 2: Then take this with the grain of salt, of course,
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  Speaker 2: because it is spring practices. Was the standout player there.
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  Speaker 2: You don't often see corners who are six foot four
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  Speaker 2: who can move the way that he can. His ball
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  Speaker 2: skills were a parent you saw, or I saw what
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  Speaker 2: his skill set could provide and confine spaces in the
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  Speaker 2: red zone. But we'll see what happens when the pads
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  Speaker 2: come on. Now. I think the secondary is going to
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  Speaker 2: be better because when you add a player like that
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  Speaker 2: who can solidify that second spot that has been a
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  Speaker 2: position of turbulence for goals, it stabilizes it. You have
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  Speaker 2: a solid pairing opposite Quinnon Mitchell, and it allows vic
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  Speaker 2: Fanjia to be a little bit more flexible in terms
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  Speaker 2: of what he can do with personnel, and he mentioned
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  Speaker 2: Jonathan Jones, and I really appreciate that because that's a
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  Speaker 2: player that probably is flying a little bit under the radar,
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  Speaker 2: but I view that as perhaps the Eagles' most underrated
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  Speaker 2: of the one year signings, meaning that he can step
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  Speaker 2: in and play inside, he can play outside. If you
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  Speaker 2: need him to step in and play safety in a pinch,
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  Speaker 2: he can do that. He's played at a high level
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  Speaker 2: throughout his career. Now he's a little bit older, so
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  Speaker 2: his plays tapered off, but he's played in playoff games,
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  Speaker 2: and now you have sort of a buffer where you
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  Speaker 2: don't have to rely on a ki Lee Ringo or
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  Speaker 2: a Jaquorian Bennett to step in should an injury surface.
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  Speaker 2: Now you have a veteran who's going to give you
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  Speaker 2: a competent level of production when he's on the field.
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  Speaker 2: There's demonstrated performance there. So with Jonathan Jones, I think
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  Speaker 2: that gives you another piece that takes the secondary to
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  Speaker 2: another level. Is there an area of opportunity there at
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  Speaker 2: the safety position, perhaps, but you can't pay everybody. They're
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  Speaker 2: not going to have all pros across the board. The
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  Speaker 2: Eagles are bullish on Drew mccouba and his second year potential.
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  Speaker 2: Marcus EPs is a player that Vic Vangiels spoke glowingly about.
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  Speaker 2: He's someone that you can depend on. You know that
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  Speaker 2: he's going to be as Simon sound and find himself
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  Speaker 2: at the right place at the right time. He gives
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  Speaker 2: you a little something to be desired when it comes
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  Speaker 2: to the athletic piece. But I like Michael Carter quite
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  Speaker 2: a bit. I've always liked him when he was with
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  Speaker 2: the Jets. He moves well, He's really sharp minded in
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  Speaker 2: terms of this football intellect, and he can cover some ground,
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  Speaker 2: and so the modern NFL safety needs to be able
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  Speaker 2: to do that and be able to be sort of
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  Speaker 2: a movable chess piece. He can do that. We need
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  Speaker 2: to see how he transitions full time to safety ads
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  Speaker 2: come on, how does he handle the wear and tear
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  Speaker 2: demands of that position. He's a smaller guy at five
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  Speaker 2: ten and eighty five pounds. But I like the components
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  Speaker 2: that the Eagles have sort of added to complement what
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  Speaker 2: they have in Quinna Mitchell and Cooper Degene, and I
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  Speaker 2: think they're all going to fit together pretty well in
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  Speaker 2: terms of the overall picture.
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  Speaker 1: And Andrew to Czeko answering your summer mailbag questions. This
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  Speaker 1: one is from Chris and Dennis Township. So that ANDREWI
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  Speaker 1: I noticed Dallas god Grant Kalkaterra, and they drafted Eli
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  Speaker 1: Stowers out of Vanderbilt. Do you look at that as
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  Speaker 1: a luxury pick or is this more indication of a
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  Speaker 1: lot of twelve personnel?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I do believe it's going to be an indication
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  Speaker 2: of a lot more twelve personnel. That's sort of the
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  Speaker 2: influences in the background that Sean Mannion's coming in with,
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  Speaker 2: and to maybe a lesser degree, he might even see
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  Speaker 2: some thirteen personnel. But I believe that where the Eagles
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  Speaker 2: took Eli Stowers, that was right around where he was
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  Speaker 2: widely projected to go. I don't think that that was
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  Speaker 2: necessarily viewed as a luxury pick as much as it
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  Speaker 2: is setting yourself up for the future and adding another
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  Speaker 2: player that you can move around. He offers alignment, versatility,
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  Speaker 2: and he's a little bit of a work in progress
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  Speaker 2: as a blocker. That should be expected. That wasn't really
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  Speaker 2: his calling card at the collegiate level. He was their
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  Speaker 2: top receiving option, so he didn't need to do that
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  Speaker 2: as much. But I like the collection of tight ends
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  Speaker 2: that they brought in Dallas Goddard. I think stants to
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  Speaker 2: benefit greatly when you look at how the Packers used
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  Speaker 2: Tucker Kraft and Luke Mussgrave, and then you have Johnny
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  Speaker 2: Munt who can be that blocker Eli Stowers. While I
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  Speaker 2: don't expect him to sizeable role as a rookie because
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  Speaker 2: he is limited in terms of his blocking, I think
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  Speaker 2: that there are going to be moments where you can
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  Speaker 2: see it come to fruition. You can see the Eagles
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  Speaker 2: vision come to fruition in terms of how they move
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  Speaker 2: him around in the mismatches they can create with them.
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  Speaker 2: But then next season, of course, they pass the baton
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  Speaker 2: in all likelihood to Eli Stowers to be the tight
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  Speaker 2: end of the future.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Andrew, let's see what Steven mays Landing says. Andrew.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go around the division, Dallas, Washington. Daniels is back
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  Speaker 1: and the Giants or the Giants. Do you look at
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  Speaker 1: the Eagles as an overwhelming favorite in the Nfseast this
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  Speaker 1: year or do one of these teams worry you? Well?
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  Speaker 2: I like what some of the division rivals in terms
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  Speaker 2: of the New York Giants adding a John Harball adding
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  Speaker 2: I believe Matt Naggi's over there now, so you have
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  Speaker 2: some structure in place, coaches that are gonna give you
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  Speaker 2: a baseline. And the Cowboys, I thought that was a
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  Speaker 2: home run higher for Christian Parker, a defensive coordinator, that
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  Speaker 2: was their problem. The offense hasn't been an issue for Dallas.
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  Speaker 2: It's been the defensive side of the side of the
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  Speaker 2: ball where they've been really leaky in coverage. They squandered
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  Speaker 2: opportunities to close out games as a result. And when
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  Speaker 2: you bring in someone like Christian Parker, who articulates his
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  Speaker 2: vision exceptionally as a young coach, so I think ability
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  Speaker 2: component that should be taken into account. I think that
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  Speaker 2: they've done a nice job of adding some young pieces
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  Speaker 2: that kind of fit the mold of what he's looking for.
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  Speaker 2: I like what Dallas has done, So to answer that
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  Speaker 2: question as as sinkly as possible, I think that Dallas
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  Speaker 2: will be a team to certainly keep an eye on.
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  Speaker 2: While I believe that the Commanders with now with the
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  Speaker 2: healthy Jayden Philip I'm sorry, Jaden Daniels, and then you
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  Speaker 2: have the Giants, there's still a couple of years away,
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  Speaker 2: I think from being a viable contender in any capacity,
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  Speaker 2: but the Dallas Cowboys, because they've shored up that defensive side,
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  Speaker 2: at least right now on paper, I think that that's
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  Speaker 2: a team to certainly earmarks as one to follow ups.
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  Speaker 1: It's funny the Washington thing. We were talking about this
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  Speaker 1: yesterday a little bit Andrew where it feels almost like
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  Speaker 1: when they had Robert Griffin third that first year, it
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  Speaker 1: felt like, oh my god, you're gonna have to deal
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  Speaker 1: with this guy for ten years, and then after that
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  Speaker 1: it was like, you hope jayde Daniels, for a football fan,
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  Speaker 1: bounces back and yeah, really thrives, but you hope he
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  Speaker 1: doesn't go down that RG three because he is a
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  Speaker 1: smaller guy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he has a slight frame. The way that he
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  Speaker 2: plays it lends itself to taking some big hits. And
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  Speaker 2: I would also say that Jackson Dart if he doesn't
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  Speaker 2: alter the way that he plays, he's going to be
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  Speaker 2: more susceptible to injuries. Also, not the biggest guy in
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  Speaker 2: the world as a little reckless in how you know,
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  Speaker 2: he doesn't necessarily have the same awareness or presence of
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  Speaker 2: mind of Jalen Hurts. Where I didn't think he took
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  Speaker 2: a lot of hits when he was on the move.
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  Speaker 2: Jackson dart for longevity purposes, and Jayden Daniels need to
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  Speaker 2: find a way otherwise. It's going to be something I
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  Speaker 2: would imagine similar to what you outlined with Robert Griffin. Third.
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  Speaker 2: You hope to never see that because you saw the potential.
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  Speaker 2: But I think the way that both of those young
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  Speaker 2: quarterbacks play, that's where the long term projection becomes a
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  Speaker 2: little murky because you don't quite have that certainty with
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  Speaker 2: their health.
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  Speaker 1: This one's from Sal out in Hamilton as Sal and Hamilton.
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  Speaker 1: That sounds like a perfect match there. Hey, to check o,
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  Speaker 1: what is your vibe on the offensive line this season?
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  Speaker 1: We all know health was a problem there, So what
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  Speaker 1: do you got. I know you saw a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of them in Ota. You don't really get to see
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  Speaker 1: them do much there, But what's your vibe on the
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  Speaker 1: offensive line?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? So I love this question. And you don't really
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  Speaker 2: get to fully gauge what they're doing on the field
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  Speaker 2: because they're not running the football that much and spring
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  Speaker 2: practices are pretty much geared towards the passing game. But
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  Speaker 2: what I did glean is the optimism and eagerness with
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  Speaker 2: from whether it was Lane Johnson, Cam Jurgens, Jordan mylotta
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  Speaker 2: about sort of embracing this new system and how it's
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  Speaker 2: going to accentuate what they do from an athletics standpoint,
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  Speaker 2: but also from a health perspective. Mean, Johnson just seemed
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  Speaker 2: and Cam Jurgens, they just seemed refreshed, be invigorated. And
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  Speaker 2: I believe that that's going to really translate onto the field
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  Speaker 2: and you know the dog days of summer when the
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  Speaker 2: pads come on and they're really ironing out some things
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  Speaker 2: and pinpointing what they want to do in terms of
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  Speaker 2: the run schematics and things like that. So I think
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  Speaker 2: there should be a lot of enthusiasm and optimism as
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  Speaker 2: it surrounds the offensive line. They didn't drop off in
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  Speaker 2: terms of talent, as we all know there they felt,
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  Speaker 2: you know that the pitfall there was attrition and for
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  Speaker 2: the Eagles offense to really take flight. It doesn't necessarily
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  Speaker 2: matter all that much if Sean Mannion's the evil genius
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  Speaker 2: that Jordanillott up billed him as, or if Sakwon Barkley
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  Speaker 2: looks to be a little bit more spry, if they
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  Speaker 2: don't have the offensive line of twenty twenty four or
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  Speaker 2: even something comparable to that. It's not going to matter
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  Speaker 2: what this offense looks like. The key to their success
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  Speaker 2: is upfront there in the trenches. And I think right
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  Speaker 2: now there's a lot of reason and just reading, you know,
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  Speaker 2: body language and things like that.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's go to this one is from Rick
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  Speaker 1: Over in Egg Harbor City. Has to do with the
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  Speaker 1: edge rushing Johona Gernnard huge, but Nolan Smith, jalox Hunt.
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  Speaker 1: Which guy do you think will have a bigger impact
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  Speaker 1: this year?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, jyalox Hunt to me, jyalox Hunt and Moro Jomo,
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  Speaker 2: I've sort of pinpointed as my two defensive breakout candidates
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  Speaker 2: that become household names at the end of this season.
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  Speaker 2: So jalox Hunt to really offer a different perspective here.
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  Speaker 2: He played six hundred and ninety three snaps last season.
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  Speaker 2: That was four hundred and fifty two more snaps than
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  Speaker 2: he played as a rookie, and he led the Eagles
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  Speaker 2: edge rushers and snaps, sacks, quarterback hits, and he led
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  Speaker 2: the defense and interceptions. He also tied with Jordan Davis
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  Speaker 2: in tackles for loss, which I believe was nine. So
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  Speaker 2: this is a players who took a pretty sizable leap
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  Speaker 2: from year one to year two. And Vic Vandel pretty
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  Speaker 2: highly of j Loox and his progression, saying he just
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  Speaker 2: needs to keep doing what he's doing. He's going to
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  Speaker 2: keep getting better and better. That's what you want to hear.
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  Speaker 2: That's what you see when you're watching him out there
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  Speaker 2: on the field in the spring, and while you're not
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  Speaker 2: seeing the hand to hand combat where he's you know,
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  Speaker 2: battling offensive tackles or anything like that. There's no pads
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  Speaker 2: in the spring, but you can see the size that
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  Speaker 2: he's put on the refinement in terms of his pass
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  Speaker 2: rush plan. And he talked about his attention to detail
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  Speaker 2: being the biggest difference in his game, entering Lee to
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  Speaker 2: react and just his sets and things like that. So
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  Speaker 2: Jalox Hunt now also goes into this season playing opposite
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  Speaker 2: Jonathan Bernard and he was sort of unlocked a little
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  Speaker 2: bit in Week ten when the Eagles added Jalen Phillips
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  Speaker 2: at the trade deadline, where he had five and a
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  Speaker 2: half sacks down the stretch just one prior to the
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  Speaker 2: arrival of Jaylen Phillips. So I think now you're going
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  Speaker 2: to see Jalox Hunt really turn the corner in year
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  Speaker 2: three and push for double digit sacks.
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  Speaker 1: All right, A couple more on our summer mailbag questions
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  Speaker 1: for the guys from inside the Andrew Checo's in the
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  Speaker 1: hot seat today and Chris and Ocean City says, with
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  Speaker 1: all the recent stuff around the Birds, is it a
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  Speaker 1: super Bowl or bust type of season for Nick Sirianni.
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  Speaker 2: That's such a hard question to answer because I don't
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  Speaker 2: know that that would be the case. You want to
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  Speaker 2: see strides made offensively. You want to see the defense
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  Speaker 2: continue its ascent, and I do believe it they're going
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  Speaker 2: to be among the NFL as elite, certainly with the
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  Speaker 2: pieces that they've added. And then you also have the
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  Speaker 2: storyline of it being the third season with Vic Fangio
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  Speaker 2: and many of the core players on that group are
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  Speaker 2: entering their third season playing together. That being said to
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  Speaker 2: say super Bowl or bus for Nick Siriani, I think
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  Speaker 2: that's I think that's a little strong. Now. The roster
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  Speaker 2: as it's currently constituted, as long as they stay healthy,
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  Speaker 2: there's not much of a reason why barring the offense
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  Speaker 2: just not meet meeting expectations. Making a deeper run in
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  Speaker 2: the postseason, and I think that they're going to do
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  Speaker 2: that and that should be the ultimate measure of success.
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  Speaker 2: As long as you don't see a lot of the
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  Speaker 2: prevailing themes that we've seen over the past couple of years,
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  Speaker 2: and the shortcomings with the passing game sort of reveal itself.
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  Speaker 2: I think that that should be viewed as a successful,
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  Speaker 2: successful season, super Bowl or not.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get one more in from Seth and Washington Township
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  Speaker 1: here and he says, why do you think that Jalen
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  Speaker 1: Carter has not got an extension yet?
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  Speaker 2: Well, you have the shoulder thing that you want to
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  Speaker 2: maybe see how he returns from that. This is a
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  Speaker 2: sizeable investment that they're talking about here, and no one's
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  Speaker 2: going to dispute that Jalen Carter, when healthy, has been
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  Speaker 2: a centerpiece on this Eagles defense. But then you also
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  Speaker 2: have the maturity component. Can't get tossed out of a
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  Speaker 2: game spitting on the quarterback. You have to make sure
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  Speaker 2: that you're following in line with the team's core values
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  Speaker 2: and not letting your emotions get the best of you.
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  Speaker 2: So this to me, and they did you know, pick
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