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‘Tech Tuesday’ with Rich DeMuro | Say Goodbye to Apple CarPlay · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 1: You're list Saints.
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  Speaker 2: Kf I AM six forty the Bill Handles show on
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  Speaker 2: Bill Handle here on a Tuesday, A actually tech Tuesday
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  Speaker 2: with Rich quick reminder that if you haven't voted yet
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  Speaker 2: go figure, all right, Moving on away from politics for
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  Speaker 2: a moment, it's time for Tech Tuesday with Rich Demurrow.
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  Speaker 2: You can hear them live every Saturday, eleven to two
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  Speaker 1: Good morning, Rich, Good morning to Bill.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Oh, I've got some questions to ask you. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: the latest software update from Apple. Now, before we get
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  Speaker 2: into that, I have updates that come like every fifteen minutes,
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  Speaker 2: it seems on my phone. So I'm assuming this is
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  Speaker 2: a big deal relative to the all of the other
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  Speaker 2: updates that happen.
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  Speaker 3: Correct All the other updates we've seen so far for
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  Speaker 3: iOS twenty six have been just small, sort of incremental updates.
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  Speaker 3: Whenever they do a dot one, dot two, dot four,
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  Speaker 3: that means those are a larger update filled with you know,
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  Speaker 3: not just security fixes, but kind of feedback from what
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  Speaker 3: consumers have been asking for. And this one, specifically, Bill,
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  Speaker 3: I think is a really interesting one because you know,
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  Speaker 3: we got this new liquid glass design on the iPhone
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  Speaker 3: that's been very polarizing to folks. Some people say it's
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  Speaker 3: tough to read, it's tough to use, it's harder to
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  Speaker 3: look at. And so now I think this is Apple's
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  Speaker 3: first admission that, Okay, not everyone likes this, because there
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  Speaker 3: is a new option in your display settings where you
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  Speaker 3: can tone down liquid glass, so you can go from
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  Speaker 3: the standard liquid glass or a new tinted mode, which
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  Speaker 3: basically gets rid of the transparency so you can see
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  Speaker 3: everything better and read everything better.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, have you looked at this and tried it.
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  Speaker 2: In your opinion of liquid glass, you know, yes, I.
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  Speaker 3: Have been using it. I would say I think overall
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  Speaker 3: it's good. I do like it. I think that it
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  Speaker 3: depends on, you know, eyesight is a very specific thing
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  Speaker 3: to a lot of people. What bugs people, what they like,
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  Speaker 3: what they don't like, what's easy to read, what's not
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  Speaker 3: easy to read, based on you know, anyone's given site.
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  Speaker 3: And so I think that having this option is better
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  Speaker 3: because it definitely makes things more readable because they are
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  Speaker 3: less transparent. So if you want to see it, you
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  Speaker 3: can go into settings displaying brightness and there's a new
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  Speaker 3: option for liquid glass that says clear or tinted. Just
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  Speaker 3: choose the ones that you like. It gives you a
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  Speaker 3: little diagram up at the top to let you see
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  Speaker 3: what the differences are. Basically, it's just less transparent, so
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  Speaker 3: everything's just simpler on the screen.
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  Speaker 2: Isn't glass always liquid when it starts?
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  Speaker 1: Oh? That part I do not know.
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  Speaker 3: All I know is that if you really look through it,
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  Speaker 3: Apple did, I mean, look, there's no denying that Apple's
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  Speaker 3: attention to detail is just so great that when you
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  Speaker 3: go through this phone and look at how they did
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  Speaker 3: liquid glass. It really is like quite impressive how you
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  Speaker 3: can see stuff through like the little menus and you
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  Speaker 3: can drag your finger around and like bubble up whatever.
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  Speaker 3: But you know it's not for everyone. So I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I thought glass started as sands, but what do I know?
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  Speaker 2: It does no, but it becomes bolten, it becomes you
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  Speaker 2: heated up to three thousand degrees and had some coke
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  Speaker 2: to it, the mineral coke, and there is Welton glass.
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  Speaker 1: He pour it out.
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  Speaker 2: It's all good stuff. Oh have you and I just
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  Speaker 2: want to throw this before going Another topic is I
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  Speaker 2: just read an article in the Well Street Journal about
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  Speaker 2: how Tim Cook basically saved Apple as it was going south.
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  Speaker 1: Have you picked that up?
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  Speaker 3: Tim Cook is a very smart man, and he is
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  Speaker 3: a logistics guy, and so he may not be inventing
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  Speaker 3: the next iPad, but he is very savvy when it
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  Speaker 3: comes to business, and so I have no doubt that
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  Speaker 3: here's a company that was handed to him after, you know,
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  Speaker 3: Steve Jobs passed away and they had one product that
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  Speaker 3: was a winner, and that was the iPhone, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: not so much.
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  Speaker 1: The iPad as well. But he had to take this.
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  Speaker 3: Company and continue to run it for the past, you know,
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  Speaker 3: ten almost fifteen years now without a breakthrough product, and
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  Speaker 3: by the way, the one they tried to make, the
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  Speaker 3: vision Pro, kind of flopped. But I do think he's
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  Speaker 3: done great things for this company, keeping it going so yes,
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  Speaker 3: very small and.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, he's a visionary being given credit for
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  Speaker 2: him reading before the tariffs kicked in that tariffs were
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  Speaker 2: going to come in, and he made major moves to
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  Speaker 2: still manufacture the iPhones and the other products outside of China.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the guy is just I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 2: he has a crystal ball in front of him and
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  Speaker 2: this one I have rich. I just well, I should
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  Speaker 2: have believe. This is TikTok's first ever award show, which
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  Speaker 2: I'm assuming you can only see it on TikTok. It's
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  Speaker 2: not going to be covered by any of the networks,
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  Speaker 2: which would be very funny if they did. Well.
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  Speaker 3: It's okay, So it is happening here in Los Angeles
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  Speaker 3: at the Palladium on December eighteenth. This is their first
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  Speaker 3: ever US award show, and I think it makes sense.
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  Speaker 3: TikTok is a force to be reckoned with, especially with
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  Speaker 3: the young ends, you know, and not just youngins. It's
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  Speaker 3: it's everyone. I mean every people love TikTok. They are
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  Speaker 3: on this thing all day long, swiping through, and so
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  Speaker 3: I think awards kind of fit. And by the way, yes,
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  Speaker 3: you can watch it on not just TikTok, but also
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  Speaker 3: to Be will be streaming it live. Yeah, and to
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  Speaker 3: be I believe it's owned by Fox. Let's see is
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  Speaker 3: to be owned by Fox? Yes, if to Be's owned
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  Speaker 3: by Fox, So that's interesting. But I guess you know,
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  Speaker 3: they see enough people tuning in for that, so they
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  Speaker 3: want to carry it live. Why not? But yeah, so
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  Speaker 3: you're gonna be able to have a red carpet, live performances,
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  Speaker 3: live audience, so it's not just an online event. This
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  Speaker 3: is like a real, you know, award ceremony in a
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  Speaker 3: time bill when we know the standard awards ceremonies are struggling.
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  Speaker 1: So it'll be interesting to see how this does.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, there's so many of a standard awards ceremony.
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  Speaker 2: The People's Award, the People's Children's Award, the Young people,
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  Speaker 2: the old people, the Middle aged People's Award, the iHeart
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  Speaker 2: has I don't know how many awards shows.
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  Speaker 1: But here's a practical question.
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  Speaker 2: Academy Awards, for example, that's about two hundred films a
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  Speaker 2: year actually come out. And in terms of even records albums,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I don't know how many you
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  Speaker 2: are out there, maybe a few thousand. TikTok has tens
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  Speaker 2: or hundreds of millions of postings. How do you get
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  Speaker 2: to a TikTok award when you're one of I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: four million, eight million, twelve million.
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  Speaker 3: Great question. So this is not focusing on the videos.
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  Speaker 3: It's focusing on the people. So this is really about
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  Speaker 3: creators that are on the platform. There is a Video
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  Speaker 3: of the Year, but of course, you know, some things
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  Speaker 3: do bubble up to the top. There's a muse of
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  Speaker 3: the Year, Breakthrough Artists of the Year, And I think
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  Speaker 3: what really will make this probably pretty popular is the
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  Speaker 3: fact that these TikTokers are really superstars in the eyes
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  Speaker 3: of their viewers and their followers. And a lot of
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  Speaker 3: these people have you know, forty million followers. So I
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  Speaker 3: think that the fact that we get to see these
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  Speaker 3: people in a different light, in a different way than
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  Speaker 3: just their videos on a tiny screen, I think is
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  Speaker 3: what's probably going to propel this show to be pretty
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  Speaker 3: popular among the YouTubers. The TikTokers that are watching out there.
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  Speaker 3: I had to look up, you know, some of the people.
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  Speaker 3: There's like five people that they mentioned in the piece
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  Speaker 3: that are like creators of the year. I'm familiar with one,
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  Speaker 3: two of them, and three of them I'm not. But
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  Speaker 3: all of them, if you look them up, you know
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  Speaker 3: they're all doing stuff that's quite unique and interesting in
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  Speaker 3: their own way. I mean, these people are business people,
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  Speaker 3: and they're not just business people. They're also highly creative,
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  Speaker 3: using you know, the latest kind of editing from their
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  Speaker 3: phone techniques to do deals. And they have to be
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  Speaker 3: a business person and a content creator and a creative
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  Speaker 3: executive all in one, and so you know, I do
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  Speaker 3: give them credit for all of that.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 2: One of the things I was looking at was the
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  Speaker 2: kind of videos that are out there.
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  Speaker 1: And what was it the mini.
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  Speaker 2: Soap operas that occur like a couple of three minutes,
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  Speaker 2: and they'll have a hundred of them, but huge production value.
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  Speaker 2: I mean sound people and lighting people, and I mean
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  Speaker 2: it's I never thought that would happen with TikTok. You know,
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  Speaker 2: you think of TikTok as someone just holding up a
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  Speaker 2: phone and saying, hey, here's what I'm doing, and here's
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  Speaker 2: this new restaurant I'm going to.
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  Speaker 1: It's gotten crazy, hasn't it.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Yeah, And like the business aspect of this, to
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  Speaker 3: me is what's really interesting because you're talking, you are supporting.
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  Speaker 3: You know, sometimes these people, you know, the whole thing
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  Speaker 3: about these TikTokers and the Instagrammers and the YouTubers of
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  Speaker 3: the world, it looks like it's just them, right, Like
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  Speaker 3: that's the whole thing is like this is just me.
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  Speaker 3: Like you just said, Hey, I'm going to this restaurant.
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  Speaker 3: I'm showing you this restaurant. Here's my video of it,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, comedy and that kind of stuff. But
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  Speaker 3: the reality is a lot of these people have a
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  Speaker 3: team behind them. It doesn't always start that way. Obviously,
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  Speaker 3: you have to start small. But it looks like you're
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  Speaker 3: keeping it real. And I think that is the biggest
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  Speaker 3: difference between something like a TikTok and what people are
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  Speaker 3: drawn to and something like these big, you know, Hollywood
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  Speaker 3: kind of productions that we're seeing. And so I think
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  Speaker 3: the trick is for these people to keep it looking
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  Speaker 3: like it is very small and just them, even when
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  Speaker 3: they have a team that's helping them edit come up
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  Speaker 3: with ideas, schedule things, business meetings, you know, business deals,
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  Speaker 3: which is all happening you know right now?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I find that absolutely fascinating.
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  Speaker 2: So there you have some eighteen year old who has
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  Speaker 2: forty million followers and is making twenty million dollars a year.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it just it's phenomenal. I mean the different
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  Speaker 1: ways that go ahead.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, this one, Brooke Monk, she's got forty two million
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  Speaker 3: followers on TikTok and she is twenty two years old
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  Speaker 3: and followers.
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  Speaker 1: So what does she what does she do? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: what's the premise of her TikTok program? Humor?
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  Speaker 3: Lip syncs, everyday comedy. I mean, it's just creativity, you know,
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  Speaker 3: like what here's my life, beauty fashion. I mean a
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  Speaker 3: lot of these people it's just they're sharing their lives.
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  Speaker 3: They also happen to be hot most of the time
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  Speaker 3: or good looking or athletic or whatever and talented and smart.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, all right, Rich.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, we're talking in next week. Always always a pleasure,
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  Speaker 2: have you, all right? Neil, Maybe that's why your TikTok
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  Speaker 2: videos really didn't work out, because you're really hot and creative, and.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, I think you're pretty hot. I've been
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  Speaker 1: enough cleavage now, I'm telling you.
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  Speaker 2: Other people may not know you're hot, but you know
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  Speaker 2: when I look at you on the monitor, I get would.
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  Speaker 1: I'm telling you it's very wrong with you.
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  Speaker 2: Plenty plenty all right. Now, Apple car Play. If you
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  Speaker 2: have an iPhone, which I do, of course you use
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  Speaker 2: Apple CarPlay. It came out about a decade ago. And
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  Speaker 2: until then, do you know the drivers, I don't even
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  Speaker 2: remember this. We're stuck with whatever tech features were preloaded
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  Speaker 2: into their cars, and it was ridiculous, so horrible.
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  Speaker 1: So what does CarPlay let you do? Well?
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  Speaker 2: You got Apple Maps, you got Spotify ways, you're not
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  Speaker 2: fumbling for your phone. You're making hands free calls, dictating
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  Speaker 2: text messages, which I find kind of fun. And it's
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  Speaker 2: all free, and it's loved by millions, millions, tens of
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  Speaker 2: millions of iPhone users.
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  Speaker 1: So what does General Motors do well?
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  Speaker 2: The CEO of General Motors, Mary Bara, just announced the
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  Speaker 2: new cars that GM is going to be producing will
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  Speaker 2: not support car Play or Android Auto, its counterpart, whoa Well.
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  Speaker 2: Preliminary data from Auto Pacific research firm suggests that CarPlay
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  Speaker 2: and Android Auto are considered must have features among many
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  Speaker 2: new car shoppers.
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  Speaker 1: Of course they are, there's no question. But according to GM,
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  Speaker 1: the company can create even a.
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  Speaker 2: Better experience for drivers by dropping Apple making its own software.
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  Speaker 1: Hmm. And here is what I love this.
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  Speaker 2: GM is defending this by saying, let's say you remove
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  Speaker 2: a feature like the disk drive on a laptop. Well,
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  Speaker 2: people eventually adapt and they move on, right, and a
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  Speaker 2: big hole in that one. So this change will happen
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  Speaker 2: over time, not overnight. And if your car right now
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  Speaker 2: supports Apple car Play or Android Auto, that will continue.
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  Speaker 1: How Ever, ain't gonna happen soon. Now.
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  Speaker 2: I don't quite understand how that analogy works because we're
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  Speaker 2: not talking about new technology, we're talking basically about new software.
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  Speaker 2: And so oh, there's another difference. GM software isn't tied
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  Speaker 2: to a phone like CarPlay. So the full suite of
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  Speaker 2: software which required its own data data plan, well, you're
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  Speaker 2: gonna have to buy it from them through GM. Of
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  Speaker 2: course it's free now, but GM is going to charge
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  Speaker 2: for it.
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  Speaker 1: Huh.
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  Speaker 2: And here's why. Because automakers have realized how much money
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  Speaker 2: they can make from in car technology.
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  Speaker 1: The old subscription plan.
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  Speaker 2: They don't just make the money when they sell you
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  Speaker 2: the car or make the money when they provide spare parts.
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  Speaker 1: How about a monthly fee? WHOA, how about that?
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  Speaker 2: And so maybe they charge a subscription fee for hands
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  Speaker 2: free highway cruise control. GM already actually has that on
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  Speaker 2: certain cars and it's fairly successful.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: So no more Apple car Play in the future, and
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  Speaker 2: it's all going to be behind a paywall. Toyota has
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  Speaker 2: some navigation tools that require subscription, but CarPlay does the
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  Speaker 2: same thing for no cost. Switching over to a non
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  Speaker 2: free platform when you have a free platform is no
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  Speaker 2: fun at all, and everybody accepts expects it for free.
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  Speaker 2: It's like the Internet. You do internet shopping. Of course,
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  Speaker 2: it's free to get on Safari or to get on
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  Speaker 2: any other browser. I wonder if they're going to start
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  Speaker 2: charging for that, Neil, do you see that happening?
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  Speaker 1: You know what?
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  Speaker 4: I can see all of this happening at this point,
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  Speaker 4: like subscriptions and pay nickel and diming forever rething.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, we tried that here.
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  Speaker 2: Remember the year a few years ago we tried a
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: subscription plan for the Morning Show and we had to
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: tell the three people who actually signed up that we
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  Speaker 2: are not going to go forward with that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well that was rough.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and one of them died, so it went down
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  Speaker 2: to two people died before we said no. Now, coffee,
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  Speaker 2: when Starbucks first came out, that was the introduction of
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  Speaker 2: real coffee.
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  Speaker 1: Before that, if you go to anyplace.
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  Speaker 2: Else in the world and you talked about American coffee,
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  Speaker 2: they would laugh at you. They viewed it as dirty water,
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  Speaker 2: hot dirty waters.
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  Speaker 1: What it was known for.
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  Speaker 2: And Howard Schultz picked up the idea that we were
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  Speaker 2: ready for good coffee, good espresso, good lattes using pressure machines.
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  Speaker 2: The espresso machines, which is the way coffee is made,
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  Speaker 2: should be made percolator.
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  Speaker 1: What does that do? It makes no sense.
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  Speaker 2: And drip coffee better, but certainly not coffee made through
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  Speaker 2: a coffee machine, an espresso machine. So you have this
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  Speaker 2: small Seattle coffee retailer and he goes in there and
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  Speaker 2: opens up or did he buy it or he opened
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  Speaker 2: it up in Seattle at Pike's Market. I think he
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  Speaker 2: bought it, if I'm not mistaken. It was this tiny
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  Speaker 2: little place and now it has seventeen thousand stores in
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  Speaker 2: the US and obviously become one of the massive, massive
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  Speaker 2: companies in terms.
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  Speaker 1: Of food in the world.
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  Speaker 2: Certainly in the world of drink, and now coming up
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  Speaker 2: are just dozens of regional favorites who want to become
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  Speaker 2: national and one of them I'm going to tell you about,
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  Speaker 2: and it's a company called Dutch Brothers.
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  Speaker 1: Have you heard of Dutch Brothers, Neil.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely, they're proliferating out this way right now. But you
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  Speaker 4: can find them in the Inland Empire and places like that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they now have about one thousand drive through shops,
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  Speaker 2: mainly in the West and South.
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  Speaker 1: And what they want to do is quadruple.
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  Speaker 2: Within the next ten years. Found it in the nineteen nineties.
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  Speaker 2: Now when you think of Starbucks, first of all, I
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  Speaker 2: hate Starbucks coffee. For me, it is way too bitter.
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  Speaker 2: I am not a fan of Starbucks at all. Or
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  Speaker 2: I find fascinating about Starbucks. I've actually seen this. There
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  Speaker 2: is a Starbucks on one corner and across the street
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: is another Starbucks literally across the street. And then someone
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: pointed out bill in the morning, everybody goes in one
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: direction and everybody goes the other direction.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: And so people want to have a Starbucks. You can
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: turn right into yeah, and that Both Brothers is.
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: Great, incredibly popular and set their own pace as to
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: who they are, not just up against Starbucks.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm assuming have you had Desh Brothers coffee? Yeah, Neil,
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: How does it compare to Starbucks?
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: Oh? I think it's way better. Okay, I don't go
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: to Starbucks person. Yeah, that seems to be the contest.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: The it seems to be the consensus and the story
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: of Dutch Brothers. They're two brothers who left dairy farming
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: and started to sell espresso from a push cart in
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: Grant's Pass, Oregon. So, Amy, you would know about Dutch
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: Brothers because you're right from that area. Yep.
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: We have them everywhere up there, okay, and it's good
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: to see him expanding here. What's going to be an
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: issue is the Dutch Brothers are all drive through They're like,
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: it's a little key, yes, and there's so few drive
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: throughs here.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: And by the way, that that is the future, isn't
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: it drive throughs as opposed to a in store because
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: you have the footprint, you have the cleaning, you don't
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: do anything. And I love what they have. They don't
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: have bodistas. They have Bryce does Breys does who try
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: to remember your name? Well, if they call everybody John
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: You're fine, And mainly it's gen Z started this. Coffee
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: preferences diverge by generation, according to an analyst uh for
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: who says, like everybody likes chicken sandwiches, but older customers
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: still drink hot black coffee. Younger ones the colorful energy
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: drinks and the iced concoctions. That's where it is. It's
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: among the younger drinkers. I don't drink well. I like
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: an iced coffee in the middle of the summer sometimes
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: when it's hot out there. So Dutch Brother's coffee is
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: out there for everyone. I can't wait to do that
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: drive through. Well Pete's Coffee, how does that compare right now?
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: I mean that's always been around for a while. Uh neil,
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: I'm throwing it at you.
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: The last time I went to a Pete's coffee, it's
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: it's been a minute, okay, And then you have to
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: compare them, okay.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: And then you have that at something leaf and Tea
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: and Leaves and Twigs or whatever the hell they call
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: that brand of coffee.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: I get coffee at home.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'm having an espresso machine for me. It's
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: the best thing out there and it costs about a
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: buck a cup.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: I love an espresso. Yeah, Amy, you were going.
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: To say, I was going to say, you know what.
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: The other thing about Dutch bros. Is that is a
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: big thing is that their people are super friendly. It'll
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: be interesting to see if that translates down here in
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: la But in Oregon they're all at every single one
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: super friendly.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Well, let's say Trader Joe's. Trader Joe's, everybody is super friendly.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: The other day it was a Trader Joe's and there
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: was someone walking out the door and the guy screamed, Hey,
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: thanks for shoplifting. Okay, we're done.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: That's nice. Thank you community. Yes, yes, all right, Gary
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: and Shannon.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Next tomorrow morning it starts all over again because Amy's back,
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: and it's Amy and Will five o'clock wake up call,
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: and then from six to nine Neil and I jump aboard.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: We'll talk about what happened with Prop fifty. We'll talk
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: what happened, Well, we know it's gonna happen with Prop fifty.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: The Mayor's race a little bit up in the air,
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: and we got a lot going on, and don't forget
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: and and Kono always here to add to the festivities.
• 22:21
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• 22:25
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