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Kate Nash and Coffee Wars · Pop Culture Junkie®

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Hello everybody, welcome to a very special edition of the Pop Culture Junkie podcast.
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My name is Shauna and I am joined today by a serious badass. She is a singer,
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songwriter, actress, activist. Thank you for being here. Kate Nash. Hi, thanks for having me.
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Absolutely. What a pleasure. So it is 7.30 in the morning here where I am.
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I took care of her early and looking so glamorous. This is usually not the 7.30 look.
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Absolutely not. It is like absolutely lipstick for Kate Nash. Come on.
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I was trying to, I don't have any on, but I do have green nails.
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I do like the green nails. Mine are very sad right now.
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What time is it where you are? Are you in England right now?
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I'm in England. Yeah, I'm in London and it is like 3.30.
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I have always wanted to go to London. I have never been. Is it cold?
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It's actually a very nice day today. It's sunny out there. I mean, you can't really see on my camera,
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but it's like a really nice spring day. It's been raining and kind of horrible. So everybody's
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like quite happy out there today. Sounds delightful. I love it. So it's the Pop Culture Junkie podcast.
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You are going to be my fellow junkie today. I am missing to fabulous co-host today. So you got
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to fill in for them, Kate. I'm here. You got to. So what is your biggest fandom? I feel like we
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have the same favorite TV show. So I definitely want to dive into some Buffy talk.
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I think about my Slayer. Yes. Oh my god. Me too. I am such a Buffy fan girl. What is it about Buffy,
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the vampire Slayer that hooked you? What does it keep this fanbase going after all these years?
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It's so interesting. I was just thinking as you said that, it's funny that my love for it
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has, I just feel like, stayed the same if not grown. It hasn't weaned in any way.
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I remember seeing an advert for Buffy. My older sister had had a sleep over the night before.
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Which was a big thing when you were a teenager. Absolutely. I just had a sleep over and she had
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two of her friends from her secondary school, her high school sleeping over who I just thought
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was so cool. They were watching Scream. We were all on the sofa the next day and one of her friends
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had stayed over and we'd got the bus into her own, got McDonald's and then came home and I was like,
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oh my god, I'm so happy right now. My little teen self has just had such a girl crush on my sister's
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friend. Coolest thing ever. Then I remember on BBC 2 there was this advert that came on and it had
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the kind of, oh, like, like, in her and I was like, what is this? And Buffy, I just remember
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being like in that episode where she's like in the bronze, like on the sneak table. Yes.
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Has the steak and she's like standing there looking so cool. And I was like, oh my god, I think my life
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has just changed. You feel like that shift to the trajectory right there.
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An episode and I was like, something really important just happened and I can tell you're
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going to be a very important thing in my life. And it really was. And like, there was a couple of
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there was one girl in particular called Jordana who I went to school with. It was a huge Buffy fan but
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also my sisters and my mom weren't huge Buffy fans. And it was just like Thursday night 6.45 pm.
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I lived for it and I like, it just evokes like a feeling in me of excitement and anticipation and
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connection. And like, I think looking back on it because I have thought about this a lot. I'm like,
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what is the feeling that I got from Buffy that was just so, so strong? And I think that really
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a show that prioritized this teenage girl and a girl that was like, you know, I mean, obviously
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she was Sarah Michelle Geller but in the show she was like outcast in her from like, you know,
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because of her responsibilities, yeah, she ended up being friends with like the nerds and kind of
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having a hard time as a teenage girl just being teased and considered like the weirdo of the school
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and always kind of getting into these awkward situations. And it was like that she was so like,
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basically to her she had to save the world but she also really valued being a teenage girl and to
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her she was like, you know, being a teenager and like being a teenage girl is as important as saving
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the world, you know, there was all these like things going on but she always valued that so much.
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And I think it like put value on on teenage girls. And I think that we are so often, I'm like we,
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I'm not a teenager anymore, but as a person has been a teenage girl, teenagers teenage girls are often
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like, we're like so underestimated. Just dismissed. Just dismissed, manipulated. I didn't think
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back to like my first album made bricks in the way people and the media and men in the media would
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like talk about it. And it's sort of like smeared, there's certain journalists that will always talk
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about me with kind of like a, oh, because I was like a teenage girl like and my record was very like
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a teenage girl. And I can't stop saying teenage girl. But I feel like I'm still a teenage girl
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almost at a time and I'm 34 years old so it's fine. I'm like 12, too. But I think like it was just
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something that validated being a teenage girl and like it was actually so loved and respected.
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And even though she was like an outsider and a nerd and like she fought for being respected for
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that. And also like people did really value her. And she was strong and she fought back and she went
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out to save the day as like a young woman. And I think that it was just so needed in my life to see
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that. And I've just never stopped loving her. Same, hard same. It's my comfort show. It's what I put on
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when I'm like I just, I need something that I know how it ends. And that makes me feel good while
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I'm watching it and that I can still laugh at and amote over. You still know like all the lines.
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And also if you're going through a hard time you're like I'm just going to watch season five and then
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I know I can get through anything that life does. Yes, yes. As long as you skip like the body then
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you're good. Season five. So I read that you produced a musical based on what's more with feeling.
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Is that right or a stage show? I did. Yeah, with my friend Emma, like,
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Emma from Emma the great. We were both hearing through breakups and we went out one night
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in London and got drunk and we were talking about the musical episode of Buffy and Buffy and
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came back to my house and watched. I watched once more with feeling I'm laughing so much. And we were like
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this is the most amazing thing ever. We need to recreate this and put it on the stage. We're
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sort of like drunkenly swaying through the night talking about it. And then the next day I think
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I was just sort of like hung over in bed and she called me and she's like I've booked to venue and I was
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like what? I love when those drunken plans get solidified the next day. Yeah, when someone sees a
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drunk and planned through that's like that's just like a person and that's someone I really respect.
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Yep. So we put on once more with feeling and really like massive my band did most of the work
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because they had to like learn the score and we had different characters come in and people dressed
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up and it was Halloween and then we screened the episode afterwards and it was one of my favourite
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shows. It was so funny. It was like definitely like a teenage dream thing to do. I like a kind of
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like community thing to do too because it's like almost like community theatre vibes.
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Oh my gosh. To be in that audience like just that sounds amazing.
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Maybe I'll do it again this year because I'm back in London. I've been living in LA for like
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nine years and I just need back to London because I have loads of work here this year and maybe I'll do it
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again. I think you should and then I'll finally make that trip to London. Oh I love that. Okay,
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most important question of the podcast and then we'll get over our buffy chat because I'm sure
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we could go on forever. Spike or Angel? Spike. Yes, she's team Spike. Same. Same. Oh my goodness.
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My favourite Spike is when she's like, what are you doing outside? What are you doing outside?
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I'm house Spike and he's like out for a walk bitch. Five words or less. Oh I love it. Absolutely.
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Spike girl. I mean no offense to Angel. He's Broody. He's handsome but yeah. I did watch Angels
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but it went off. It went off a little of paste a little. Oh my god. It got so goofy there at the end with
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Jasmine and everything. I watched it all too because that's what any buffy fam girl does but
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so what are you watching right now when you're you know in between work what what goes on your TV?
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What are you listening to or reading? Oh my god. Okay, so I'm reading this book right now called
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Holding the Baby by Nell Fruzel and I guess I'd have just got back to London and I was in a bookshop
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and you know when you like well I don't know if you've had this experience but I've lived away
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from home for a long time so then coming back everything is even though it's so familiar as kind of
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weirdly in a style. You're thinking of all these like themes in a new way. I was in a bookshop
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and I saw this name Nell Fruzel and I was like oh my god I know that's Nell like I was friends with Nell
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when I lived in London years ago and then someone that I lost touch with and I didn't realise had
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published books and so I bought the book and it's about motherhood and it is an absolutely amazing
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read. It's basically you know it's like I think it's called like milk in the front of the book. It's
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has like milk blood and tears or milk skin tears from the front motherhood and I don't have kids
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but a lot of people in my age now do and it's just really interesting to read such an honest
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take on like parenthood and how difficult it is and being really open about
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every single aspect of it and how hard it is and I'm just like speeding through the book. It's
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an amazing read and I think for anybody who's like I mean when I saw it I thought I wonder if by
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you know like mothers obviously buy this book. I was like men should buy this big too and then I was
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like I should also be reading this book because I don't have kids you know so I just think the more
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that we can understand each other's experiences the better really because you just learn about like
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other people's worlds and yeah it's an amazing amazing read so I'm reading that I'm like nearly finished.
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Oh that's awesome I love a good book I have so many half-read books that I just need to sit down
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and focus on yeah and I totally agree it's just I don't have children either but it's so important
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to just see it through another person's eyes sometimes especially because you know so many of our
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girlfriends are going to be having kids right now and it's just what are they experiencing how can
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I relate to them yeah. Totally and how can I be more like supportive friend or just ally I guess
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absolutely as like mothers are going through a lot and what am I listening to I am well she does
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have a podcast as well called The Panic Years which I think is a great title where she is a different
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people really it is about motherhood but it's also about people that chose not to have kids or
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you know dads or like people with fertility issues and it's just like really important discussions
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I think which is really interesting and then I also listen to like Justin Long's
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podcast I think of Justin like as a podcast that's awesome yeah he started it in the pandemic I think
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it's him and his brother and it's just like they're really like fun to listen to I love him yeah I
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love him too and I loved barbarian yes it was so good oh god it was so good it like you did
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actresses British oh really that's awesome I'm really proud and he's just like someone's
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British and film I'm not that so cool I'm happy is it for the prince I love it yeah you go into that
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movie you have no idea what it's gonna be about and then it completely just comes out of no way
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like when that scene where she's like leaning against the thing and these just you're just like what
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and then it can't straights like Justin Long like singing sorry spoiler yeah it's okay but oh my god
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I love that film I love a fun horror film that's also scary like that's the best me too I love
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that yeah I love it when it it's great it's genre-defying kind of like Buffy it's like I could see
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it's got like those horror elements everything comes back to Buffy in the end right
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everything comes back to me what else am I watching well I haven't started yet but I really want to
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watch succession oh yeah although I will say it's it's like not the most enjoyable show because it's
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so stressful it's like when I'm watching succession I'm like I can't wait for this to be over because
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I'm obsessed but I it's just the most incredible writing and I really like Lucy Preble who is one
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of the writers on succession and she also wrote I hate Susie starring Billy Piper which I don't know
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if you've seen no I like Billy Piper though I think I'm gonna love it it's an amazing amazing show
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about sort of like I mean there's a lot of things in it that mirror her career but like she it's
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not autobiographical but there are things that mirror her experiences like being sort of like a singer
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TV star that's kind of trying to come back basically into the meet and it's just a really unique show
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and it's she's absolutely incredible in it so I've really been enjoying that I'm gonna have to
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look that up is it on like the BBC I'm sure I could probably stream in the US somehow
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HBO in the US oh cool okay awesome I hate Susie yeah well well well are you into like Marvel or
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Star Wars anything like that I I you know what I'm not massively but I do love the Mandalorian
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yeah me too and and you see that that thing going around of what's his name from
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head to the hotel yeah Pedro Pascal was in Buffy yeah I did I love that we talked about that a couple
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of the sets ago and he's in the premiere of season four and he's so cute and young and then just
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dies immediately I know but yeah like I just like feel I mean I'm like obsessed with the way people
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are culturally obsessed with him as well he seems like such a nice guy I don't know if that's all
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just I don't feel like it's an act though I feel like he just seems like a genuinely like he's a
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goober there's a weird interview with him what's the identity of him on uh I can't remember but it's
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like one of the big podcasts and he is basically talking about like how long it took for his career
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to take off and how much doubt you have to overcome and like a lot of acts like were really there for him
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during that and like I think it was Kate Blanchett or something gave him oh no was it Sarah I can't
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remember what actress but someone gave him like a car and like people would like look out for him
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because he was respected and loved amongst his peers and like people wanted him to get work and
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you know get a being an actor as a strange job because you just don't have a job until you get a job
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and then you get a job and you're like ah working and then you don't have when that ends you don't
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have a job gets your whole focus for you know months at an end and throwing yourself into someone right
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and then just oh I guess we're done yeah but I feel like really I'm so happy with how much everyone's
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obsessed with him and how much success he's getting I like that I like it when you see people who see him
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nice like succeed and everyone rallies around them like brinjan freer yeah just like
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let's start yes glorifying and lifting up nice people some more you know and wanting them to succeed
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yeah it's so cool I love that yeah I mean I've I watched coffee wars this week but we'll get into
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that after our break amazing yes and oh I saw the new Creed movie Creed 3
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oh yeah it's really good um I'm not usually a inspirational sports movie fan that's our other
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house Nicole but those don't seem like this they're just really neat and Michael B Jordan is really
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good in them and man I could I could watch him in anything he could just read the telephone book just
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stand right there Michael be it's fine oh man but yeah let's uh let's take a short break and then I
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want to launch into all things Kate Nash okay Kate so when you first started and decided like
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what you wanted to be when you grew up did you see yourself as a singer songwriter was it acting
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your first to love how did the jury begin I actually do you have a diary entry from when I'm little
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really small I loved writing in my diary and uh I wrote I wanted to be a singer and an actress
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and a teddy bear maker and an ice cream lady you still have a way to go with some of those then
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I still have a way to go yeah I'm not quite there yeah I love it yeah apparently always wanted to do it
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and um I just loved singing so much and I loved like being part of storytelling I loved being in
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plays at school and I think uh it I just always always enjoyed it yeah awesome uh did you write I mean
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music growing up or did you just kind of did made of bricks come to you I mean what was the process
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of writing that yeah so I went to a school called the Brit school which I was very lucky to get into
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I auditioned for it and um it's a free performing arts school in London awesome which is amazing
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because we need like free performing arts access to everybody otherwise absolutely rich people can be
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performers and and I think uh that school I studied theatre there so I'd grown up like playing piano
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and writing songs and loving music and then I just started taking acting classes and I got into
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the Brit school and I I applied to be in the theatre department which was a little bit of a curveball
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like from my perspective but um I'd gone to an open day there and I was just so impressed with the
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theatre team and and theatre department that I was like I really want to try this and I'm so glad
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that I did because I really think that being part of theatre and doing so much storytelling through
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plays and monologues and like learning to write scripts and it was just such a creative environment
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and I think it really honed my songwriting skills because I really just was storytelling through a different
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medium and I think that's why my first album is the way it is you know it's quite theatrical like
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skeleton song and mariello and little red and I've wanted to tell these like fairy tales almost
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through music so it was very influenced by my experience at the Brit school just kind of growing up
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as a teenage girl a teenage girl in London yeah I love that our co-host Haley had foundations as her
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my space song and she said that her uh her mom and dad did not approve of it
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I think some of the language in the album which is hilarious knowing Haley she's our I've never
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heard or even say H.E. double hockey sticks she's so hilarious so I want to talk about girl talk
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and the influence that right girl music has had on you how did that album come to fruition um
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yeah so I guess really it started with my second record my best friend is you which is the sort of
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beginnings of me expressing myself in like an angry way I was always into well no I wasn't always
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into punk music I got into punk music at like 16 or 17 years old when I was working in a shop
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called River Island selling like clothes and I hadn't gotten into university and I bought this
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buzzcock's record and I was like oh this feels like me and I suddenly I think I always thought
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some writing before had to be so like poetic and all of a sudden the buzzcooks were just telling me
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like how they felt and it was pop really in my opinion but and it was simple but it was still really
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important um and I thought I can write like this and so I loved the buzzcooks and then I went down to
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to the spit-all-fills record market that I had on I think it was on Wednesdays back then I don't know
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if it's still on even but I went down there and I had those all these like bloke selling records and
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I just went up and I said I really like punk music I think because I love this buzzcooks record
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and I don't really know anything about it and I really want to know and he loved it got out all
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these albums for me and he was like yeah teaching me all about British punk let me show you the way
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yeah it was really cool he was like really it was really great and um and so I got into bands like
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the adverts and the zips and like just just like British punk really there's punk compilations
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called boards at teenagers like I got really into and and and so my punk journey began then and then
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when my first record came out my life kind of changed really drastically and I was just treated
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quite badly by the media you know I would sort of be like the guardian would be like rolling the
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eyes and being like very like oh she's like I don't know the guardian of was kind of like doff all of my
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creative work because I was harsh enough or something but um and then also the daily mail we're like
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highlighting my acne and and like and lots of online media with pulling me like too fat and too ugly
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to be a pop star to the daily mail sucks like she's oh my god I can't imagine talking about anybody like
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that let alone I mean somebody who's so young it yeah and I was just you know it was difficult and
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and I also was experiencing sexism in my industry and the music industry and like how it was so
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male dominated and how those men would sort of treat me and talk about me and I started to get really
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angry about that I know I know I was in a relationship that wasn't happy in and I was dealing with like
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a bunch of shit there as well and I just started to write a bit more expressing that anger yeah
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and then hi my best friend as you uh was done there was just so much going on in my career that I
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felt out of control of in terms of who I was employing and then I realized I can fire everyone and I did
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yes love it right and then I got dropped by my record label although this didn't happen
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I didn't get dropped straight away so I think I like had this big break up I was like angry at the
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media I was angry with how I was being treated I didn't like how I was being treated in my own workplace
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and I realized I could fire everybody so I hired like an all-girl band and I wanted like women on stage
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and I wanted to like take some control back myself and my life and um yeah I just decided like I'm
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going to go on this like rampage of like getting really into like the punk music I was into and the
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riot girl movement that really inspired me and have girls on stage and like really connect with
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all these teenage girls that the media are writing about in this negative way well I'm going to like
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connect with them and like make something for them that they can listen to yeah yeah and all my fans
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are like they are they do kind of have this like outside feel you know it's like people that are
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misunderstood or underestimated or in some way often like I'm drawn to my lyrics and so
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I feel like I became so close with my fans and I wrote this like angry guitar record inspired by the
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riot girl movement and punk music and my label just got like less and less communicative with me
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and then they dropped me and I just sort of I felt like I describe this time as being like on a train
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where the driver is dead and me and my band were like at the back of the train character we had to
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like get the front before and it was like going to go over like a train track that like was
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yeah get to the front before it's all destroyed yeah and we had to like get to the front and try and
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take the wheel and um and that's what those years were like which were very chaotic as you can imagine
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but also yeah really quite fun and uh they also just like completely shaped me and made me the woman I
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am today like I'm so grateful for those chaotic years and that doesn't mean I'm grateful to people
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that like treat me badly but I'm grateful that I like navigated those experiences with people that
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I did who have my back and like helped me learn and grow it on the way and um yeah they just kind of
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have just made me who I am can't imagine not going through all that stuff now right like looking
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back on yeah just shitty times or anything where you felt like you were underestimated things weren't
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going your way and then making it back on to the other side and you have those people that made it to
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the front of the train with you and you're like okay this is my squad like these are my bitches yeah
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like true anything now absolutely oh I love rye girl music too I love um war on women and petrol girls
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yeah so any any of that music it just resonates with me so much especially since uh I don't know
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when there's different legislative things coming down the track and the United States and you know
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things are just changing I'll just sit in my car and I'm like okay it's a day that I need that playlist
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yeah you tell us it to some like fuck the patriarchy music right now I'm sad do you know I'm skating
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poly no skating poly oh my god I've just changed your life like you're gonna be obsessed with them
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you should actually interview them because they are oh that'd be sick they're two uh sisters and
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actually their brother is also in the band um Curtis he joined the band later but they've been
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like a band since they were like kids really little kids like Kelly I don't know how she was she must
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be like 10 nine or 10 when she was first in the band I mean there's footage of the first gig and Kelly
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Kelly's like I'm like oh wait she's like this tiny little girl I've been waiting yep um and I met them on
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the girl during the girl talk era uh somebody introduced them to me like showed me a music video
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and I was like these girls are so cool I've got to get them to open up for me and they opened up two
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shows to me and one was in Chicago and it was Halloween when I met them and when I met them uh Kelly was in
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uh like a bride outfit dead bride like covered in blood and she had this like platinum hair and
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she was just really she's like so much energy and she's like talking and she's just a little kid and
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she's just like oh no she's such a spirit and then Hayton was like silent and she had a hand
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homemade Dalek costume from Doctor 2 and she was just really quite a mysterious and I was a bit scared
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of her and I was thinking oh my god it hits me um but it's you know like it reminds me of Dynamics and
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then my I have two sisters it reminds me of like some of our Dynamics and then they got on stage and
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they opened up and just blew me away with this performance and they're just incredible incredible
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songwriters like electric performers they're so prolific they've made so many albums even though they're
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so young oh my gosh they've poured for years and they're just they're like they're they're almost like
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veteran rock stars but they're they're only like 21 like they've just been like doing it so long
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and they're one of my favorite bands ever and I feel when you need a moment like that where
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you just need some like emotion and some raid and just like like powerful women like kind of giving
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you hope in the world and expressing how exactly how you feel I will always listen to them
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that's amazing thank you for the recommendation I'm absolutely gonna check that out
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any music that Kate Nash tells me to listen to I'm gonna listen to it's gonna happen
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so and then your album after Girl Talk you funded through Kickstarter right yeah so I funded my fourth
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album through Kickstarter and that was nerve-racking but beautiful really because it again like just
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connected me with my fans and gave me independence and an opportunity to put out a record
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without signing to a record label yeah so I still haven't done and I'm like working on a new album and
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yeah like I really value my independence now even though it can be difficult navigating the
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music industry I think that you just learn each time you put something out you learn something new
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and it's just it's a career that will never be one path it will never be oh here's the guidebook
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on how you will you you work in the music industry it just doesn't have that because it's different
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for every single artist you know so yeah I am still navigating it now for my next record but I'm excited
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and I feel inspired to like keep writing records and yeah what's the like the sound like for your next
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album coming out I mean is it gonna be more of that like punk kind of aspect in there any hints you
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can give us the puts to come yeah so I was really inspired actually worked on a musical in New York
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talking about once more feeling I worked on a musical where I closed the all of the music for the show
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and so I was very inspired by like string arrangements and like writing for a musical so there's
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a bit of a musical theatre influence in my new awesome yeah so going back to my Buffy days
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once again all comes back to Buffy oh that sounds awesome thank you very exciting is that
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gonna be 2023 that will I don't know who knows I'm like in the middle of planning that now so time
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will tell time will tell whenever it feels right absolutely when it feels done so I want to talk about
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your acting career as well yes me too yes so what you know helped you transition or what did that
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feel like when did you take your first acting role when did you think okay this is something I
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want to try now too um I so I was doing theatre at the Brit school like I said and I basically just
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always wanted to do it and didn't have an opportunity so I met my acting manager because of my
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music because her daughter was into my songs she was into my music and so she came to one of my gigs
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and she'd read that I went to the Brit school and I had an interest in um you know acting and so I
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started auditioning with her and going out for things and then I got my first role in 2015 in a
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pilot that was directed by Gus Van Sant and Junji Cohen um and that was just such an amazing
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experience of starting starring Eddie Isard um and it didn't get picked up yeah it was set in 1800s
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it was like Salon which is like it was really cool that's awesome yeah so cool but um
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Junji was producing a new show called The Gorgeous Ladies of Wrestling and I auditioned for that
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and I got the role of Ronda Richardson in Glow um and yeah that really felt like my first proper job
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I'd done a couple of short films and I did the the pilot that didn't get picked up but Glow was like
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my first you know like a show that really went out into the world and um I just loved it so much um
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and so I loved Glow I watched Glow it's just the best it was the best like the girls everybody on
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that show is just so incredible to work with um but yeah I uh that's like you know what
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but how coffee wars came about because I was acting and I was working on Glow and then I got an audition
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for coffee wars um so yeah which is kind of what I'm here to talk about really
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yeah absolutely so I watched coffee wars it is so cute I was cracking up the entire time I didn't
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expect it going into be so like raunchy and I loved that anytime there's a poop joke I'm gonna
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laugh like oh my it kind of reminded me of um of a dodgeball in some like points of it which I
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think is such a good movie too um but yeah let's let's talk about coffee wars I mean what was it like
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unset it looks like you guys just had a lot of fun drank a lot of coffee right we did drink a lot
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of coffee um we had so much fun it was just I mean it's such a fun cast um it's a really funny like
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script it's got this important message I'm playing a vegan coffee booster um and I'm kind of like
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failing I guess like losing money and uh my character enters a coffee competition which is based
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on these real world championship like coffee competitions that I they have into Brovnik and um
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my character's trying to like make it work and save the world one cup of coffee at a time so it's a
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comedy with a message and I think comedy is a great way to spread like any kind of message because it's
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not yeah look I abonbarded these days with bad news and like difficult things and I think that like
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laughing is a great way to take in a message because you don't have to feel horrible while you learn
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how to do things in a better way for the planet and for animals you're like there's facts sprinkled
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in it so she would talk about you know how many gallons of water it takes to produce um like one
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gallon of cow's milk and so it's like there's there's facts in there but they aren't it feels natural
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that Joe is saying this she feels like within her character yeah yeah she's quite intense and she
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also is often the butt of the joke and it's not like you're necessarily she's not the one like
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making all of the best decisions or always in the right or anything she makes mistakes and I think
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that that's such a great way as well to like get a message across because you're not like being
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Joe is quite preachy but she's not always right so you're not like like constantly thinking like
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she's doing the right thing you know I mean it's not kind of forcing it down your throat and
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and there's a team of misfits which I love a team of misfits and yeah and really funny actors in the show
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that in the movie that was just so fun to work with I'm I really loved working with Toby Sebastian
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because we had so many scenes together and he plays oh he played the guy with the nose ring right
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who is competing against you oh my gosh he was so just funny and such a dick like I wrote funny
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his physical comedy is like ridiculous yeah we shot in Serbia and also in Colombia so I got to
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go to Colombia and see like real like coffee fields and that's amazing Maria Kansita who's just
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incredible as well like physical comedian um I mean we just we had such a good summer making this
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movie it was so much fun and I think it's a really bright colorful um fun movie that I ever hope
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that people love I agree it's really just fun to look at like the color palette is just so bright
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and draws you in I mean even Joe's hair and her wardrobe it matches her personality so much with just
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how you know outspoken and passionate she is like of course she has to have green hair
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of course she does yeah my boyfriend um did the hair actually um he worked doing
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his hair so I needed hair on the movie as well but we were talking at the beginning basically about like
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wanting to have this colorful hair and it kind of um there was like a few movie references that we had
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that uh eternal sunshine of the spotless mind was one where the hair is like such a part of
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a character and it's this kind of crazy hair but it's also weirdly natural on her and it feels
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really lived in and like green it was such a like obviously because of like going green for the planet
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kind of had that you know connection that like even her hair has a message but it's like fun and
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bright and colorful and um and yeah her clothes we loved like both Sresha you know Sresha
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Monica Jackson from Derry Girl amazing in the film we just loved our wardrobe because it was so
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colorful it's so colorful oh she was so cute in this movie and I loved that she worked at the
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bookstars for a second show goes and saves her so cute what are some like good stories you have from
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set did you guys all go out together while you were shooting it what kind of camaraderie was going
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on behind the scenes bar on top of the hotel that we'd like all hang out in and there was a night
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club that some people would go and party in but I didn't do a lot of partings I just had so many lines
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and so much work to be who that I was often like trying as much sleep as possible um but we did drink a
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lot of coffee together um and we got taught how to make coffee by real coffee championships like the
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the beer winners and they have this amazing coffee shop called Bloom that they like owned in
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in Serbia and we'd go there on the weekends and um yeah like we all just stayed in the same hotel
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so that's really fun when you're kind of on this little trip it's like not a it's like a weird like
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summer camp feeling you know yeah yeah it's like all sort of living together but separately and like
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getting to go to work together every day and in a new country and um me and Toby just laughed
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he just makes me laugh so much like he's so fun to work with and if I was like tired because it
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was really hot that summer and if I would like get like tired he'd always be like making me laugh
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and kind of turning and if I was like you know when you're like really hot and really exhausted like
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I'm about to switch into being such a bitch right now because I'm gonna go in a cranky mode here in a second
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and he would always like stop that from happening because it was just so funny like being around him
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you're chemistry in the movie with him was so good I was like I know they're supposed to be
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enemies but these two are just so good in the same room together just bouncing off the little
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barbs waffee each other yeah it's really good to have a fun enemy I think right I'm chemistry to like
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hate someone on screen but like love them in real life absolutely so do you know how to brew a good
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cup of coffee I actually do yeah awesome I learned why you get bad cups of coffee in terms of like an
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espresso because it's actually a recipe which I didn't realise so the way of it's like all it's very like
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specific and I just didn't know how detailed that it yeah and when you actually know how much like
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detail goes into a cup of very good coffee you understand what what the difference is between like
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like why you why you go in a coffee shop and get a great like flat white or a latte and then you go
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into one you're like yeah it was just okay and it's like in the details and we got taught all about that
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by Lamazokko people at Lamazokko but also by the championships in Serbia and but I will say my art
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we got taught how to do like foam artwork and mine was horrendous I
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I'm so amazed now when I go and get a coffee and they do like a little heart or something and I'm
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like oh my god that's amazing how you do that I'm so excited I have to like Instagram it immediately
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on one of those people who's like okay I'll enjoy it but first I have to like look at this really hard
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yeah hard to do it and so I respect it even more now that I know how terrible I am at it
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if you're going to a coffee shop in London where are you going and what are you ordering
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oh my god um okay oh well there's a place called Charlie's in wood green that I really like and it has
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vegan breakfast so Joe from coffee wars would approve um and they just do a great like oat flat white
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oat flat white when I want like something creamy and then if I want like a like really a
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and a just like a purest coffee like a pour over yeah I have to know how to
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out bloom in Belgrade in Serbia and it is just like the most incredible pour over that I've ever had
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it's so damn good watching the entire time make me want a good cup of coffee so bad I yeah
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suck my husband's really good he does he grinds his own beans and he does the french press and the
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pour over I'm gonna put myself on blast and I definitely like well pour my grounds into the Mr.
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Coffee and just press brew and then I wonder why it doesn't taste good so weird or drink yesterday's coffee
44:27
so when you first read the script for for Joe I mean did her veganism resonate with you you're a vegan
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too right how long has that been going on for and you know what what made you passionate about that
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want to go vegan yeah I have been vegan for five nearly six years and I was vegetarian for eight years
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before that and really I was watching Okja I don't know if you've seen that movie I have it it's amazing
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and it's got such a great cast and it's comedy and action and it's about this super pig that's
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been built to basically make like farming meat even cheaper and even quicker and this little
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Korean girl is like best friends with her pig and she doesn't know that's why it's in her life because
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it was bread for that and then when it gets taken away to New York for this like competition she
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goes on a mission to like save her pig and it's really fun and it's and then like there's always
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action and it builds up to this scene at the end where there's all these like super pigs and their
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animation so they're not real pigs they're in this like massive factory farm and you just
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watch it and you're like I know this isn't real because they're not real animals but this is real
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because this is how we part in this why why the fuck are we doing this you know and you can't deny
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like watching it you're like the way they filmed that was so impactful to me and I just sort of
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remember thinking I've been vegetarian for eight years and I've like denied the veganism
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thing for long enough and I was like I've watched the documentaries I know the truth yeah and I just
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I can't do this anymore I can't just buy it and I don't want to be like I don't want to be part of
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um I just don't want to be part of it because like what we're doing is so far removed from even being
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like food that is so unethical and it's just so long that like I can't participate in any of it anymore
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so that's when I decided to go vegan and so when I got this script of coffee was I thought this is
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great because I personally know that movies can actually change people and impact them and make them
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like change their ways and change their decisions and I'm an example of that so that's why I was like
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there is a point to making movies that have a message because I've personally been affected by one
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so yeah and I've I really like love I love being vegan because it um it's just like a really kind
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way to live and when there's so many things going on in the world and we're so aware of like
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climate change and the threat of climate change to like the human survival it's a really easy way
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to participate in something positive because you know being vegan now is like pretty easy
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out there's lots of options yeah so many options there's ways to be really healthy there's also ways
47:32
to be unhealthy if you're scared that it's too healthy to diet um but like it's just like a reassuring
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feeling that you're like not hurting anyone you're not hurting any animals although I do like
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in Okja there's a character that doesn't eat anything because everything is basically bad for the
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planet and he's always like fainting because he doesn't have any energy because he doesn't eat any
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food um so I guess you're always cutting something but it's nice not to be like participating in like
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the mass cruelty of like and against animals and um yeah and it's nice to talk about that
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through comedy really is because people can feel good when they learn about it and think about it
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they can feel good and laugh laugh you know yeah it's a nice way to get the message across
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and not I mean because I've seen those documentaries too where it's like you you don't want to look
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because it's just so horrifying and violent and those are very important for people to see but then
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when you give it to them and you know the comedy it's like something that you know people can kind of
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relax like oh that's an interesting fact oh that's funny yeah and makes it seem like it's more
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accessible like oh yeah yeah I could do that I you know I uh I have a friend who's vegan who
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oh man I'm not seen in the movie when she's talking to the cow and then it immediately cuts to her
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dad serving the cow for dinner and that exact thing happens to my friend crystal who's a vegan
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she lived on a farm growing up and loved this cow and then her parents like served it to her
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no that's terrible and that's so traumatic yeah wait how can I be like oh my god and she became a vegan
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right there like she was like yeah just horrifying is Joe yep yep yeah the whole what I saw that I was
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like oh my god this is crystal like she's just looked down at the plate was like what how could
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you do that like it's just so traumatic coffee man maybe for her then because she's gonna relate to that
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well yes I know I'm like I need to show her coffee or she's gonna love this so obviously you're into
49:37
you know veganism but I was reading a lot about your activism I mean what does it look like right now
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to be part of the you know feminist movement in England and first is Los Angeles yeah
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you know it's it's stressful out there in the world it's stressful out there in the world yeah I
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think that I've been thinking a lot about how to be a positive force in the world you know because I
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think that like there's a lot of heaviness and I think we need lightness we need joy we need we need
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music we need art we need to like uplift people so that they don't feel defeated by what everybody's
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just gone through with like a global pandemic and now like this like economic crisis and cost of
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living crisis and just sort of like always feeling like the news is constantly like bombarding us
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if like bad bad feelings and so yeah I've been thinking a lot about how to be more involved with like
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local community so I'm I've just moved back so I'm gonna be exploring that to be honest but I'm
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I'm going to an event tonight for this charity called Freedom Charity which is an amazing charity
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that they work to like prevent like violence against girls dishonor violence dishonor abuse and
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basically forced married and female genital mutilation so well and so it's like heavy subject matter
51:01
that we did an art show a digital art show where we asked like lots of different artists and musician
51:08
celebrities like actors different types of artists to including like traditional artists photographers
51:16
to submit something that basically represented freedom to them and we wanted to celebrate personal
51:26
freedoms to like kind of again bring people into a heavy conversation but in like a lightweight
51:34
so that you engage more people and like raise more awareness because it feels accessible and it's
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something you don't want to shy away from because it's like celebrating freedom and I think that
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the work that they do there is really amazing so we're going to an event tonight
51:48
to kind of close the event because they've raised a lot of money and sold a lot of the artwork
51:55
and there's a choir performing called Lips Choir and then it's like amazing London female
52:04
choir and they do like pop covers and like UK garage covers and just loads of like epic like
52:13
songs that like make you feel really good and it's a bunch of women like all different ages
52:18
are really diverse like all different types of people in the choir and it just is very uplifting
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so I'm really looking forward to seeing them tonight. That sounds amazing one more time what's the
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charity called freedom freedom that sounds beautiful yeah I agree any just small ways to get involved
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in the local community is amazing it's just you know it helps you feel like you're making that little
52:45
difference too but then you also know if enough people make that little difference you know big things
52:52
can happen and you can feel connected what's going on around you and just mean again like meeting
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different types of people so yeah I'm also I'm really excited that coffee was is going to come out in the
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UK and to see what people think of it and to like it's been a while since I've been able to
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like I don't know like promote any like glow was such a loss to us in the pandemic like the girls and
53:20
yeah, locally we we missed like we side shooting season four but we only did two episodes and so we
53:27
didn't get to kind of have that celebratory like end of season so it's really nice to just so
53:32
gut wrenching when glow is canceled but with coffee was it's nice to be kind of back in the acting
53:43
world and like for writing something that I really enjoyed making and that I really care about as well
53:47
that's beautiful so where can people watch coffee wars I found it on Google Play
53:55
but how you know how is it most accessible for people to see yeah it's on Google Play Apple and Amazon
54:01
and and I'm not I think in the UK it would be the same and then after that they're going to be
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on I think I don't know when but like I think it's the 10th or 11th that comes out in the UK so yeah
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Google Play Amazon and Apple oh beautiful so it's all happening this month here in the midst of it
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yeah that's so exciting it was an amazing movie I really enjoyed myself I was
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giggling the whole time and it made me want coffee and it made me want to read more about veganism so I
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think it did everything it was supposed to do yeah and then beyond that it made me want to add some
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green to my hair I'm gonna be honest green is a great hair color we're not I love having it so it's
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weirdly natural even though it's very unnatural I mean because it feels like it exists in the world
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like it's a natural color yeah it's like the grass one was it a wig or did you really dye your hair green
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no I dyed it yeah that's incredible I just rock it I loved it
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awesome well thank you so much for being here with me today Kate it was honestly a pleasure I was so
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excited to meet you I don't know I just reading about you I was like I feel like we could just be like
55:21
two buds just talking and that's exactly what it was like I love it yeah if if people want to
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you know connect with you follow you where can they find you in social media um @KateNash on
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Instagram and Twitter um and then I did start a TikTok but I don't really use it it's too much work
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so Instagram's probably the place I agree TikTok's way too much work I can't do
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like I said he could millennial it's good if it's gonna be Instagram
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awesome so we will follow you on there everybody please make sure to check out coffee wars when it comes
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out in your country anything else you want to pitch while you're here today Kate anything else
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people should know about your journey go vegan people it's better for the planet and it's better for
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