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Is Everything We Know About Chemtrails a LIE? · Man in America Podcast

• 0:14
  Speaker 1: What if everything you thought you knew about Chemtrails was actually wrong? My guest today spent twenty years studying weather modification, and he says that the real danger isn't in the sky where everyone's pointing the cameras. He says that HARP, the government's famous ionosphere weapon, is nowhere near powerful enough to steer a hurricane or control the jet stream. This is not even close. He says most of what people call Chemtrails or something else entirely.
• 0:41
  And here's the part that should really get your attention. He lays out documented government confirmed history of real weather warfare, from a program from Vietnam that most Americans have never been taught. And plus, he gets into this 2030 deadline that a group of billionaires and scientists are already working toward right now. Now my guest today is Jim Lee. He's built a searchable public archive on weather modification with over a thousand patents and and over close to a thousand newspaper articles.
• 1:08
  He didn't start out trying to debunk anything. He got pulled into this topic because his own audience kept pushing him to look into Chemtrails. So he spent two decades tracking flights, checking weather balloon data, and filming the skies almost every day. What he found didn't just challenge his beliefs, it rebuilt them from the ground up. And once you hear what he's found, it might do the same with you.
• 1:30
  But so if you breathe air and live under the sky like I do, and that's every single one of us, then this car is a conversation that you need to hear all the way through. Welcome to Man in America, a voice of reason in a world gone mad. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. Before we start, make sure you hit that like button. It helps us reach more people.
• 1:49
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• 2:05
  Helps me to get to more people. Alright. Let's get into the conversation now with Jim Lee. Mister Jim Lee, it's good to finally have you on the show. I've been following your work for a little time now, and, I'm actually really looking forward to digging into this discussion with you about geoengineering because what I've heard you talk about, they your information challenges even my understanding of what geoengineering is, and I always like that.
• 2:33
  I like when I'm forced to put my own ideas up against something that challenges them. So, anyway, thank you for being here, and thanks for giving us your time today. I'm looking forward to this.
• 2:43
  Speaker 2: Well, God bless you for giving me the opportunity to actually talk about this. And, yeah, let's hash this thing out. I've spent about twenty years studying geoengineering, weather modification, space weather modification, and kicking and screaming, I was dragged into the Chemtrails world, because the comments would not allow me to ignore it. And I think that there's a lot to pick apart there. What's visible, what's not, what's dangerous, what's not, what's real, what's not.
• 3:14
  So I'm, you know, welcome to dive in wherever you think is appropriate.
• 3:19
  Speaker 1: Well, I guess, how about let's start just with the let let's say the foundation of the different types of weather modification. Because I think that that's what we're gonna and kinda try to get to the bottom of in this discussion, you know, the best we can within an hour, which is understanding what is man doing to the weather, how are they doing these things to the weather, why, How does it tie into things like grand solar minimum and and and some of the larger cycles that are happening? And then also, what do you think the future holds? Right? How this fits into agenda 2030 and and our future?
• 3:57
  So do you wanna just maybe we'll start with Ankla, I've got some, let me see, I've got a folder here of some different images from Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: 10 technologies.
• 4:06
  Speaker 1: Is that this right here, right?
• 4:08
  Speaker 2: Yep. Okay. So, this is from weathermodificationhistory.com. You know, it's an encyclopedia that I created online for people to understand all of the different technology and the history from 1800 to present. And what you really see at weathermodificationhistory.com is we have an interactive timeline, it's available on the menu, some of the major milestones are there, there's frequently asked question pages on the three major types of weather modification right below that, and they are geoengineering, weather modification, and space weather modification.
• 4:49
  Below that, I have over 1,100 patents right there in the center in a searchable database, And we have over eight forty nine newspapers that you can go through and a map of weather modification projects worldwide right below that. So, you know, and there's links to that, and I think just a little bit further down, there's like PowerPoint presentations you can download on all of these topics so that you can dive into them, and at the very bottom is the Climate Viewer three d Map that you can just click that link and it will automatically bring up all of those different projects. So I break it down into these three categories for a reason, that weather modification, generally speaking, it happens in the troposphere. That is where all weather occurs. The ionospheric heating, I have them listed out here.
• 5:45
  So ionospheric heaters, we're talking about things like HEART, the High Frequency Active Aurora Research Program. It's pictured there at number one, it's up in Gacon, Alaska. There are four other ionospheric heaters in the world despite anything you've been told. They have to be a very specific type of antenna with a specific frequency and the power to be able to do space weather modification. These work in combination with things like sounding rockets.
• 6:16
  Sounding rockets release things like barium, strontium, trimethyl aluminum, lithium, cesium, sulfur hexafluoride. The reason that they release these chemicals is because the ionosphere is invisible, and once they dump these chemicals into the ionosphere, they stick to magnetic field lines. These are like the Van Allen belts. So once they stick to these magnetic field lines, HARP can heat D, E and F region of the ionosphere and can heat these chemicals. These chemicals can be released by number two or number three, which is sounding rockets or satellites.
• 6:57
  They actually have satellites in space that with the click of a button can release these chemicals like the combined release and rocket experimental satellite, C Rez, which even back in the 1980s was working with the Arecibo ionospheric heater in Puerto Rico. So there's a long history to this of the combination of releasing chemicals, heating them with a ionospheric heater, and being able to modify space weather. Now, of course, what you're told in all of the, you know, talking heads is that, well, it's controlling the jet stream and it's, you know, moving all the weather. The problem is that they point towards Bernard Eastland's patents, but Bernard Eastland himself on his website, which is now deleted, you can get it on archive.org, Eastland Science, he says, and the patent says that they were calling for an array of antennas that were 10 to a 100 times the size of HARP. So in order to actually, HARP is 3,600,000 watts, it's about 5,000,000,000 watts effective radiated power.
• 8:12
  In order under his estimates, you would need 100,000,000,000 watts to even affect the jet stream. HARP is nowhere near that. We're talking about 3,600,000 watts. The most powerful radar on the planet is at about 40,000,000 watts. Eglin Air Force Base, right there on the Panhandle of the Coast Of Florida.
• 8:36
  Even at 40,000,000 watts, that radar cannot affect the weather because it passes right through it. In fact, there has never been a documented case in the history of man where somebody has used an electromagnetic frequency to change the weather other than lasers. So lasers can ionize a column of air, can ionize dust particles that are already in clouds and induce rainfall. Lasers can also steer lightning bolts. So laser this is called laser channeling or, you know, laser lightning rods.
• 9:14
  You can Google it. You don't even have to go to my website. There, it's a thing, it's in my timeline on weathermodificationhistory.com, project names, examples of the technology, and demonstrations. So whether it's, you know, and there you go, ultrashort pulses, are called femtosecond laser filament lightning rods, let's just put it that way. And what you're doing is electricity follows the path of least resistance.
• 9:46
  So if you fire a laser, you've now made an ionized channel for the lightning to arc down, and that's a thing. Same with the rainfall. The laser is ionizing radiation. That's why it works, because you're creating ionization. Third electric way to modify weather is through cloud seeding with negatively charged ions.
• 10:13
  This is called cloud ionization. That's actually number six on the chart there. So, I mentioned lasers, is number four. Cloud seating has been around since 1946 when it was invented by Vincent Schafer, Irving Langmuir, and Bernard Vonnegut, brother of Kurt Vonnegut. And the three of them at the General Electric Labs started out with silver iodide and dry ice.
• 10:43
  This was in November 1946. By October of the following year, they did project Cirrus, where they went out and seeded an unnamed tropical storm, which then turned into a hurricane, which then turned 180 degrees, it was headed out to sea, it turned 180 degrees and ran into Savannah, Georgia doing like $3,000,000 worth of damage and killing people. Now, of course, people try to rewrite history and they say, well, there was a large frontal shelf that was coming in. That's actually what caused the hurricane to turn, but you cannot argue with the fact that the old adage, if you break, you buy. If you modify, you own that damage no matter what.
• 11:36
  In fact, Irving Langmuir was out there running his mouth about Project Cirrus, and they literally told him, hey, how about shut up? Don't talk about this. The newspapers are covering it and people are really upset at the idea that it's only been eleven months since you've created cloud seeding and you're already trying to steer hurricanes. So cloud seeding is the only technology out of the entire list which has ever been documented to be used as a weapon of war. And this happened in Vietnam.
• 12:13
  So in Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam, especially over the Ho Chi Minh Trail, the saying for Project Popeye, Operation Popeye, there's many different names for it also, Operation Motor Pool, intermediary, compatriot. The CIA, the US Air Force and the US Navy were sprinkling not just silver iodide, but lead iodide into the monsoon rain, and their goal was to make the Ho Chi Minh Trail intractable. And for anybody who's ever watched Forrest Gump or any documentary on Vietnam, you see soldiers up to their waist in water. Well, of course, you know, people rewrite history and they say, well, it really wasn't that effective. You know, what we were doing really had no effect on the monsoons whatsoever.
• 13:00
  Well, why'd you do it? But Seymour Hirsch wrote an article in the New York Times in 1972. This led to worldwide outrage over weather warfare. This was brought about by Jack Anderson who saw a sheet of paper on Lyndon Johnson's desk in the Oval Office, which mentioned Project Popeye. He published that in the Pentagon Papers.
• 13:26
  Seymour Hirsch writes about it in the New York Times. Suddenly, you've got a whole room full of old bald white guys in congress not only talking about weather modification or weather warfare, but looking at each other going, you mean we can control the weather? But it was Lyndon Johnson himself who said, he who controls the weather controls the world when he was vice president. Ironically, president Kennedy had talked about international cooperation on weather modification for the benefit of man when Johnson was still vice president. But Johnson, when he became president, continued through something called SACSA.
• 14:14
  I don't want to get let's not get too into the weeds. Saxa was a CIA thing that was in the Department of Defense, which Kennedy had created to put a check on the the CIA. Saxa was supposed to directly report to president Kennedy what was going on in the intelligence community and basically be the snitch that he needs so they can't do the bad things that they had been doing before. Well, they weaponized that position post his, you know, car ride that ended abruptly. And Saxo was influential in the CIA operations in Project Popeye.
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  This happened in 1967 through 1972. So anyway, this led to international outrage, it led to three congressional hearings, and finally it eventually led to the United Nations signing the Environmental Modification Convention Treaty, which was a weather warfare ban. Was it a weak, flawed piece of legislation? Sure. The problem is that they acknowledged the problem, but they never created a solution to trust but verify, to quote a famous person.
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• 16:36
  Speaker 2: When we banned upper atmospheric nuclear explosions because project Starfish Prime, project k with the Russians, we were trying to blow up the ionosphere. This was causing EMP damage, frying satellites, it had gone too far. We were 2,600 nuclear detonations in and now we're detonating them at 300 kilometers, you know, up into the sky. So they did the limited test ban treaty, but they didn't just ban the thing, they made a way to catch people who violated. This came with the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty Organization.
• 17:12
  This matters because they created infrasound recorders and seismographs around the world. So if somebody, when Kim Jong Un fires a nuclear bomb off, we know instantaneously because we can triangulate, We can hear the infrasound recorder here and then one on this, you know, this different country over here and this country over here and the seismographs all kind of read it and they can go, well, it took forty five milliseconds for it to travel to this one, seventy milliseconds to travel to this one, twenty five to go to here. This is where it happened and that's how the international monitoring system of the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty works. I propose something called the Environmental Modification Accountability Act, that in order for us to face up to the weather warfare that's likely still going on today, we have to be able to prove it. And in order to catch somebody doing it, there has to be a method to the madness.
• 18:19
  So we actually need transparency in sampling what chemicals are in our rainfall, what's in our stratosphere, you know, where these flights are, you know, most of the military activity is, you know, as we know, does not show up on flight radar. These are the kinds of things that have never been dealt with. So for the majority of cases, like when once again, Operation Popeye, the CIA was involved in weather warfare against Cuba, against Castro. This one gets less play, most people don't know about this stage. Again, cloud seeding, again, it's always chemical.
• 19:01
  Chemical has much more of an oversized butterfly effect when affecting rainfall precipitation, it's because it can change the heat temperatures very rapidly. Irving Langmuir said that one milligram of silver iodide in the, you know, one gram of silver iodide in optimum conditions equals that of one atomic bomb. So when you put that, when you think about that much latent energy, that much heat being released, that's when it matters. So there was something called Project Stormfury. This is where NOAA was trying to steer hurricanes for about two decades.
• 19:49
  And during Project Stormfury, the CIA used some of those missions to try to steer hurricanes into Cuba. They also were cloud seeding in the Gulf Of America, which I love saying, to make the rainfall fall in the ocean before it reached the islands. The purpose of this was to create drought. This is the opposite of what most people hear. So how you cloud seed to make drought?
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  Well, you overseed the clouds. You put more particles into them so that all the rain is squeezed out and then the only moisture that is left cannot get big enough to fall on the ground until more moisture is absorbed by the materials that you put into them. So this was called a rain embargo. The goal was to kill Castro's sugar crops. This actually came up in the recent JFK file releases and it was something mentioned about Project Mongoose.
• 20:55
  So, I have to this day have not been able to get a name of the official project for the weather warfare that was done against Cuba because it does not exist. But Project Mongoose was briefly mentioned in the JFK files and it seems like it may have fell under that umbrella. I haven't updated weathermodificationhistory.com's timeline entry on the weather warfare against Cuba with an official name because I like to double triple check to make sure I'm right before I go telling everybody this is the truth. But yeah, there were, you know, multiple different things that, you know, this was mentioned in the Kennedy papers, it makes me wonder like what was the actual CIA program named for the cloud seeding that happened. I could actually throw you the link in five seconds so that you could actually see the newspaper articles that even mention this, which I'll do while I continue to ramble on.
• 22:01
  So the weather modification history, when you look at the different technologies, we've covered cloud ionization. Instead of using chemicals like silver iodide, and you know, there's also like calcium chloride, there's cold cloud seeding, which is called glaciogenic, there's warm cloud seeding, which is called hygroscopic, and then there's ground based cloud seeding, which is basically, it's where they what is that word I'm looking for? The snowpack augmentation, where they basically put ground based cloud seeding generators at the bases of mountains and the updrafts carry the chemicals up to the top and that produces artificial snow. Cloud ionizers are also ground based, So that's a great, you know, photo of a ground based cloud seeping generator. And there are multiple different types of these.
• 23:05
  Some of them are the older style like you got on the screen there where they just basically use propane, acetone, and silver iodide, and they release them to make artificial snow. They usually have a the newer models usually have a solar panel and like a cell phone connected to it so they can remote control these things. But the cloud ionizers, they're a different breed. Instead of using chemicals, they used negatively charged ions. They used coronal arc ejections.
• 23:36
  So they put these masks up, they charge them up with several 100 watts, it's not a lot of energy, but it's the same thing as an air filter in your house. Air filters create negatively charged ions. And the reason that they work is because just like with the laser, you need three things to make rainfall. You need water vapor, you need a cloud condensation nuclei or a cloud seed, something for the water to stick to. And how do you make them stick together?
• 24:07
  Ionization, static electricity. So that static makes the first two stick together and once enough water sticks to the thing, it gets too heavy and it falls on the ground. It's really that simple. So cloud ionization is just removing, adding chemicals and it's just adding the ions necessary to take pollution that's already in the sky and make it stick to water and fall. It's one of the newest technologies, it really started gaining popularity around 2005 with the major headlines coming out in 2010.
• 24:42
  I covered it in 2014 at length. And in Abu Dhabi right now, in The United Arab Emirates, they have this rainfall enhancement program, UAE Rep, if you just type it in, UAE Rep. They're basically, they've got a bounty for new rainfall technologies. Linda Zhao from the Khalifa University proposed using graphene oxide as a new type of cloud seeding agent. You know, this is it right here, NCM, UAE rep, and if you look at their award cycles right there at the very top, you'll see who's gotten money, who's won the awards recently, and you'll see right there, there's a dude with a big freaking laser beam, and you scroll down, you'll see another guy, there's another dude with, you know, a laser, but they are offering millions.
• 25:43
  Linda Zhao was the one at the middle, get to the top, go back up, right there in the center, Professor Linda Zhao. She's the one who talked about using graphene oxide and silicon dioxide nanoparticles for cloud seeding. She was in the first cycle that they were offering, using nanotechnology to accelerate water condensation nuclei. So, they're offering this bounty to anybody in the world who can come to the desert and if you can make it rain on them, they'll make it rain on you. If you get where I'm going with this one.
• 26:19
  Doctor, right there, the very first one, Guillaume Matras, that's your laser guy. Laser based rain triggering demonstrator with remote sensing technology. I don't make this stuff up. Everything that you're going to hear today, Daniel Rosenfeld, I actually interviewed him in 2018 at the twenty first conference on planning inadvertent weather modification in Austin, Texas. This is the annual AMS meeting.
• 26:51
  He is now part of a group called Aeolus Labs. You can read about this on my sub stack, climateviewer.news. Aeolus Labs is a new startup that claims that they're going to prevent a category five hurricane from making landfall in The US in the next four years. Now you think that would drive headlines crazy. I personally, when I put it out, you know, because I have an industry insider who queued me into what these people are doing, it's Mason Lee, that's it right there, DOD linked startup to control hurricanes.
• 27:28
  It's Koki Lee, no, Mason Lee, Koki Mashita, and Doctor. Daniel Rosenfeld. And they're I memed on this one, You were so preoccupied with whether you could, you didn't stop to think if you should, and you should not be trying to steer hurricanes. But this is a new AI startup, which was partially funded by the defense industry. And in Silicon Valley there is a big, you know, defense funding apparatus there.
• 28:07
  So this is Department of Homeland Security in 2,008 had a hurricane modification workshop. They said that our goal was to stop the next hurricane Katrina. So all of these guys come together, including geoengineers, you know, like John Latham, Stephen Salter, you know, some of the OGs from these are the guys that invented Marine Cloud Brightening. Some of the OGs from back in the day, they get in on it, you know, people who were part of Project Stormfury. They're all hanging out together.
• 28:41
  Here's idea, Mash Alomaro from MIT University regurgitates William Gray from 1974. Let's use carbon black dust to steer hurricanes. Like they're throwing everything at the wall to see what sticks. Noah basically declines, William Lasko says, you know what, I don't really want anything to do with this. You know, we did Project Stormfury, we kind of sucked at it, nothing really worked, and there's a lot of liability there.
• 29:11
  So basically DHS turned to NASA and said, well, we'll do it ourselves and we'll work with NASA and other private contractors to do these tests. Well, now you flash forward to, we have the AI age, you know, this is the AI boom. So you have all of these new companies that are coming out saying, well, we can actually do this now because we can model so much better. You know, what would happen if we do these inputs? And Daniel Rosenfeld, he's been cloud seeding for like forty years, and he's from the Hebrew University of Jerusalem.
• 29:51
  Just that's a fact. I'm not, you know,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Not you an anti Semite.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: No. Not at all. You know, I love my brothers, and, you know, we're all, you know, sons of David. Okay? Well, I'll just leave it at that.
• 30:09
  But it is coincidental that not only is Stardust Solutions, but, you know, which is a Israeli based startup, which is planning to geo engineer the planet, you know, two former atomic energy agent, you know, heads from Israel, they're now a defense contractor that are testing new solutions to geo engineer the planet. So that brings us to the third category. We've talked a little bit about space weather modification, we've talked about weather modification technologies, increased, decreased rainfall. They did it during Chernobyl. Moscow didn't want the radioactive rainfall to reach Moscow, so they sent out planes to make all of that rain fall out on Belarus.
• 31:02
  If you go and you look at the radioactivity map from Chernobyl meltdown, what you'll see is there's a huge area around the Chernobyl Reactor followed by a huge area in Belarus. And this was called Project Cyclone. People, and this really made me mad because I watched the HBO documentary on Chernobyl and I'm like, and you're gonna leave this part out? They always leave out the important parts. That they did cloud seeding to make all of that radioactive fallout fall on Belarus before it reached Moscow, because that's the direction the wind was blowing.
• 31:41
  If that rain had continued, fallout would have continued northwest, it would have ended up directly in Moscow, and they had to make sure that did not happen. So they did not warn Belarus, they just went out and they cloud seeded over that entire area, and that's why you see all of the fallout there. And the third example I'll give, which most people have heard of, is the Beijing Olympics in 2008. They had that Birds Nest Open Air Coliseum. They swore they were going to keep it from raining during the whole thing.
• 32:15
  They failed miserably. You can go watch videos on YouTube of people in the dome with umbrellas getting soaking wet. It is not an exact science. These people do not know what they're doing with. God created a perfect system.
• 32:30
  These men are intervening in it and they're claiming to control it. They can only modify it. This is not like a thumbstick joystick controller where you know exactly what's gonna happen, there is not a single cloud seeding project which has proven scientific efficacy in eighty years. This is something that's very uncomfortable for most people to hear and they're like, why are you saying that? Weather control is not real.
• 32:59
  You can attempt to control the weather, you will never get the results you expect because weather is chaos theory, it is not control theory. Don't want to get too deep in the rabbit hole on that one, let's move to geoengineering. So Mount Pinatubo erupts in 1991. All the scientists see that briefly the earth is cool. We want to go all the way back to 1815, Mount Tambora erupts and the following year we have the year without a summer.
• 33:33
  And that is because so much sulfur dioxide and soot gets lofted high into the stratosphere that it takes a very long time for it to rain out. The higher you eject a material, the longer its residence time. So the following year after the eruption, we have a three degree Celsius drop in global temperature and a year without a summer. That was eighteen fifteen-sixteen. Back check me on that, I'm pretty sure I'm right.
• 34:08
  So anyway, when the Mount Pinatubo eruption happened in 1991, there was a guy named Mikhail Boudicot, who back in the 60s proposed something called Boudicot's blanket, and this was the idea of putting chemicals up to block the sunlight. Probably saw the, you know, Mount Tambora was like, that's a great idea. Cesare Marchetti in 1977, he coined the term geoengineering, he was specifically referring to carbon dioxide removal, sucking CO2 out of the atmosphere. Flash forward to the 1990s, right after the Mount Pinatubo eruption, I think it was circa 1999, Ken Caldera admitted to this in a podcast, that he was basically in front of a bunch of policymakers and they're like, what do you call this thing you're describing? And he's like, geoengineering?
• 35:00
  And that's where we get the modern push. So in 1997, Lawrence Livermore National Labs, Edward Teller, Roderick Hyde, and Lowell Wood invent the modern version of stratospheric aerosol injection. This was born in Lawrence Livermore National Lab. Edward Teller invented the hydrogen bomb. Lowell Wood is known as Doctor.
• 35:24
  Evil. I don't really need to say much more about it than that. So they write this first paper, then the second paper comes out, they include Ken Caldera, and Ken Caldera's role was to model what a geoengineered world would look like. So then after they get that, they're like, thanks, Ken, you've been helpful. They write their third paper without, you know, anybody else, just the original three, and now we're off to the races.
• 35:52
  2006 Paul Crutzen, a Nobel laureate, signs off on the idea, he's like, hey, it's a great idea, it should work, and the whole geoengineering industrial university complex is built. So research is on, the race is on, and everybody's talking about blocking out sunlight. Now this is, you know, morphed into many different technologies. You got space based solar, you know, geoengineering. It even went through four different name changes.
• 36:23
  It was geoengineering, then it was climate engineering because it's not geo, it's climate, or geo means earth. We're not engineering the geo. So then it became climate engineering. Then in, I think it was 2016, the CIA was involved in the National Academy of Sciences report Climate Intervention. So it got a new name.
• 36:45
  So for all those that are playing along at home, if you want to Google this stuff and you want to hear what the actual people who are working on this, you need to Google three separate terms, go to scholar.google.com, type in all three terms and each one put quotation marks around it, and you'll find thousands of papers call it something different. They even tried to make the pivot and call it climate restoration. Even geoengineers laughed at this one. So then it finally goes full circle and Harvard comes up with their Harvard solar geoengineering research program. So now solar geoengineering has now made its comeback.
• 37:27
  That's the, you know, term du jour. And the whole idea is that you reflect incoming solar radiation back to space. The problem is that the technology to do it isn't really available. In 2012, Bill Gates asked David Keith and King Caldera, said, what do you need to do this and how much, you know, how much this goal set me back? How much money is this gonna cost me?
• 38:00
  And David Keith paired up with Aurora Flight Sciences, they put out a report and basically said we could do this with 14 Boeing seven forty seven-four hundreds, but we would have to modify the engines, we would have to modify the fuel in order to get it up high enough because with Mount Pinatubo and with Mount Tambora, we're talking 90,000 feet. No plane, there are very few planes like U2 spy plane, SR-seventy one that can get that high. Now why would you want to get that high? And I'm not talking to people in, you know, Western states that are getting high as a kite. Y'all might want to get that high, but these people want to get that high because the higher you loft the chemicals, the longer they stay and the less flights they have to make in order to do it.
• 38:56
  Which region
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: are they kind of focusing on in this right here?
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: So right there at 39,000 feet, that is called the tropo pause. So from the troposphere to that line that I have there, it typically the tropo pause is the division between the troposphere and the stratosphere. The ozone layer is in the stratosphere. The top of the troposphere is around 50 kilometers, 31 miles. We're talking to get up to the top of the troposphere, we're talking, you know, 90 to 100,000 feet.
• 39:38
  Now the tropopause varies greatly depending on where you are in the world. At the Equator, it's higher, at the North Pole, it's lower. So this is part of what's called the Brewer Dobson circulation, Hadley, Ferrell, and Polar cells. I don't wanna get too in the weeds about, you know, how atmospheric circulation happens, but it goes like this. If we can, this is them talking, not me, if we can release chemicals from these 14 planes at just about ten degrees north and south of the equator, because of the way Brewer Dobson circulation happens, that would loft the chemicals into the atmosphere at 90,000 feet, it would circle around the globe to the Pole, and it would spread evenly to the North and just below the Equator it would circle all the way down to Antarctica and it would spread evenly, hopefully, allegedly.
• 40:38
  This is their thought process. In fact, you see the cloud seeding AI, SAI infographic I have, that one really focuses in just on what we're talking about right now, and we're probably going to talk a little bit about Chemtrails after that.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Is it this one right here?
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: Yep, that one Okay. Right So this really zooms in on the problem. Stratosphere aerosol injection, the goal is 60,000 to 90,000 feet, 18 to 27 kilometers for those who don't use freedom units. And the tropopause typically can be anywhere from about 39,000 feet, I've seen it as low as 24,000 feet over San Diego. Just can't make this stuff up.
• 41:29
  It's constantly moving around, so the division between the stratosphere and the troposphere, it's constantly fluctuating. I've seen it as high as 65,000 feet off the Florida Keys. So, it moves around, but the point is this, you cannot create clouds in the stratosphere. So for the people who are focusing on planes making lines in the sky and saying that it's stratospheric aerosol injection, you don't understand that a certain set of conditions are necessary for clouds to form. So we went over ground based cloud seeding generators, and cloud ionizers and lasers, even a geoengineering process called marine cloud brightening, MCB, all of that happens on the ground.
• 42:21
  Cloud seeding, where they're trying to either make it rain or create drought, happens from about a thousand feet to 20,000 feet because that's where cumulus clouds are. The cumulus clouds are the big cotton ball clouds, those are rain clouds. Above that you have stratus clouds and then at flight altitude, which is typically 30 to 45,000 feet, you have cirrus clouds, these are ice clouds. So, the conditions that are necessary to make ice clouds are determined by something called the Schmidt Appelmann criterion. This was actually originated back in World War II.
• 42:59
  Now, the Schmidt Appelman criterion basically says it's got to be about negative 50 degrees Celsius with about 60% relative humidity and contrails will likely form. And this is something that has been known and predictable since World War II. A friend of mine, he's a former Navy meteorologist, his job on the aircraft carrier, his name is Jeff, you can meet him in my telegram if you want to go talk to him. He's a real person. He's been to my house.
• 43:30
  I've shook his hand. His job was to basically, you know, give the guys taking off and the F-fourteen Tomcats and F-eighteen Hornets, if you fly in these areas, you're gonna leave contrails that are going to persist and the enemy is gonna be able to follow those white lines back to where you are. That is not a good thing. It wasn't a good thing for the B-seventeen gs Flying Fortresses that were going over Germany during World War II, even though they were propeller driven, they had lead in their engine fuel and they had, you know, water injectors, so they made big contrails that streamed all the way across the sky. Many a pilot crew, you know, a plane crew died directly as a result of these huge white lines coming off these planes.
• 44:24
  So the military has adapted to have contrail suppression systems, to have contrail avoidance systems that they operate on on a daily basis. When Trump was dropping bunker buster bombs in Iran from b two stealth fighters, they were not flying at an altitude that even contrails can be created. They were in the stratosphere. And the reason that is is because very quickly after you reach the tropos, you go into the stratosphere, you have what's called an inversion. It gets colder and wetter as you're going up, but the minute you hit that stratosphere, it starts getting very dry very quickly and it gets a little bit warmer.
• 45:10
  And you can see this on any radio song plot. You can Google it, AI at Claude, chat GBT, ask them, you know, are these the conditions? You know, you can go to chemtrailfax.com. It's a website I've done 5% of what I plan on putting on that website. But the information is there and you can test this yourself with plugins like the Contrail Finder on windy.com.
• 45:35
  And what you'll see is there are a certain set of conditions under which planes, 42,000,000 flights per year, are producing these clouds, and that is a problem. I have a problem with that. I also have a problem with anytime those planes fly above that tropopause, they're not going to create a cloud, and half the world is mesmerized and believes that that's a no spray day, that if the conditions aren't right or if the plane is flying in the stratosphere, the lower stratosphere, it's not going to create a cloud, but it's putting about a billion pounds of sulfur per year into the stratosphere. That is stratospheric aerosol injection. Stratospheric aerosol injection, what Lowell Wood, Edward Teller, and Roderick Hyde were planning, what Bill Gates, Ken Caldera, and David Keith were pushing.
• 46:32
  The idea of stratospheric aerosol injection cannot create clouds. The goal was never to create clouds. Mount Tambora and Mount Pinatubo did not create clouds. What they did was they whitened the sky. The reason the sky is blue is something called Riley scattering.
• 46:51
  Anybody can look this up. There's a different thing called Mie scattering, that's spelled M I E, and Mie scattering is caused by aerosols. The aerosols actually whiten the sky. If a large scale geoengineering proposal ever went through like they're planning to do in 2030, Start a Solutions planning to do this. David Keith has doubled down.
• 47:20
  2012 he said, I need 14 planes to geoengineer the planet. Just recently he said, I could start with 15 private jets, Gulfstreams. 15 private jets, I could geoengineer the whole planet. It would be subscale. It'd be less than what I'd like to get to, but we could start in 2030, and we could get to the full deployment by 2035.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: So let me ask you a question real
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: quick. So,
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: basically, you know, if I understand correctly, you've given a lot of information, so I'm trying to piece it together Mhmm. That the everyone's focused on Chemtrails. Right? But you you that that's that's you know? And and I and I know it too.
• 48:08
  I I walk outside, and it's a beautiful day, you have the streets going across the sky. Then before you know it, they're all clouds, and it's these really ugly looking clouds, and and it's you know, it it pisses you off. It's like, this is a beautiful day.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: Why screw it up?
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: Exactly. And so what you're if I understand what you're saying is that those clouds aren't indicative of them spraying a bunch of chemicals up there. Like, they they actually those chemtrails are legitimately basically what you would refer to as a contrail. Like, it's a condensation trail, which has to do with the temperature and the pressure and, you know, and and, you know, how far up it is. But what you're saying is that so people that are opposing this, they they kinda latch on and say, oh, you know, you climate engineering, you know, conspiracy theorists, you know, this is not this is not true because those are just contrails.
• 49:03
  And if I if I understand what you're saying is that the the the planes, that's not the that's not the thing to focus on. What you're saying is that, actually, the real engineering they're doing is either ground based stuff that they're they're they're kinda shooting up in there, which I we've got some maps of that. It's either ground based or it's up at an altitude, looking at this right here, it's up in the stratosphere where it is too dry to create clouds. It's too dry to create chemtrails, right, as as you perceive them to be. But what they're doing is that they're they're dumping all these chemicals in the stratosphere.
• 49:42
  And this is what what I've noticed as well, that there's sometimes even where you have these big beautiful cumulus clouds. Like, oh, those are the clouds of my childhood. Look. There's an elephant. There's a dinosaur.
• 49:52
  You know, those kinds of clouds we grew up with. But then it's not blue behind them. It's kind of a grayish white behind them. Or there's also days where there's no clouds at all. There's no visible, say, chemtrails as you would would, you know, think to see, yet the whole sky is just this white.
• 50:10
  Right? And it's something happening.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: And so that is what the that is what geoengineering would look like. That is what you're looking for. If you're if you're if you're wanting to imagine what geoengineering actually is, it is whitening the sky. It is not creating clouds. Now that's not to say that people aren't taking advantage of making clouds, that they understand the conditions under which they're formed, that they'd like to make more cooling contrails, less warming contrails.
• 50:41
  All of this stuff I've documented. I'm not saying that these are just contrails. Why what the big deal? In fact, I'm part of a coalition right now, and you can go to our website that we've just recently created for a EPA petition that we've submitted to the federal government to make a rulemaking on this, that jet emissions are a problem and that there are people that wanna take advantage of these planes that are making clouds, and that is a problem. But saying that contrails don't exist, contrails disappear, chemtrails stick around, the narratives that have been pushed for so long are so just fundamentally incorrect that it borders on nefarious.
• 51:26
  In fact, if I were the airline industry, I would have come up with this conspiracy theory myself because what it does is it makes sure that nobody ever actually regulates my industry, And on top of that, it distracts from the David Keys and Ken Calderas and the Stardust Solutions, the people who are planning to deploy geoengineering circa two thousand and thirty, thirty five, which is happens to coincide with a solar minimum. The last solar minimum, everybody was asleep at the wheel. That was a coronavirus pandemic. We all see how that worked out. Not a person lifted a finger.
• 52:06
  There were just a couple people that despite the lack of energy could muster up the energy to go, you know, this is wrong and we should be able to why are people putting the face diaper on and taking the jab and all of that? Agenda 2,030 was not chosen for just randomly. It's because we're going, we're already starting a grand solar minimum and that right now on climateclock.world, you can see the climate clock that is ticking down. It ends in July, it's climateclock.world. There's one in, you know, there's one in The UK, the Prince went out there when they put it up, there's one that the last pope put up, and basically they're ticking down and they're warning you.
• 52:59
  This is when we plan on doing the thing. It ends July 2029, and their goal is that when this clock we have four years to enact bold change or else. They Bill Gates came out recently and did a one eighty, and everybody scratched their head. They said, what in the heck? Why is Bill Gates saying that climate change is not gonna kill us?
• 53:25
  The answer is very simple. Your recent guest talks about technocracy and the idea that AI is more important than climate change because it's about control. Geoengineering is about control. Controlling narratives, controlling behavior, controlling resources, and water is the most valuable resources as retired Colonel David Kaczynski said, water will be to the next century what oil was to the last. Geoengineering will change rainfall patterns worldwide.
• 54:07
  It will kill millions of people. This is widely understood. The geoengineering governance, if you go to degrees. Ngo, which formerly was the solar radiation management governance initiative, they're, you know, basically at the United Nations Environmental Assembly seven, six, and five, these people are trying to come up with geoengineering governance before deployment because people will inevitably sue that geoengineering could lead to World War three. This is there are many if you don't believe me, to scholar.google.com and put in geoengineering World War three and go haywire with the studies behind it because my NMOD, because the Environmental Modification Convention, because it's weather warfare.
• 55:00
  So the issue behind all of this is that geoengineering is real. Geoengineering has a planned deadline and it happens to be right around the time that we're gonna be going into this solar minimum coincides with agenda 2030, that's a big dang deal. Why? Because global warming, you're not gonna be able to keep up the lie any longer. You won't be able to keep that lie up any longer because the earth is gonna cool down some, because the sun's gonna put out less energy.
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: Every time a financial bubble pops, like we'll probably have with AI here coming soon, the same thing happens. The people who built it get out first, and every day, average Americans are the ones left holding the bag. It happened in 2000. It happened in 2008. And the men and women who understood that how the money actually moves, they didn't just survive those years, but they came out ahead.
• 56:00
  And that's why I really want you to attend this very important event. Mark Wilburn, the president of NEO's Capital, is hosting a free live virtual event called the twenty twenty six Freedom Trading Summit. So he's gonna walk us all through what's really happening in the market right now and how ordinary average people like you and I can take control of our money instead of handing it over to Wall Street and just hoping for the best. It's completely free. So Thursday, August 27 at 4PM eastern, and there's an encore on Saturday, August 29 at 11AM eastern.
• 56:34
  So go to mia-neos.com to claim your seat. That's mia-neos.com, and that link will be in the description, or you can scan the QR code that you see on the screen right now. Make sure you do this now. Do it quickly because the seats are filling up and you will not regret it. Again, it's free.
• 56:52
  So again, go to mia-neos.com or just scan that QR code on your screen right now. So looking at this these cycles right here on this sorry. On this graph that you're saying that if you look right here, 2030, we have a peak happening.
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: So my graph is off, and I'll admit, guys, last night I tried to, like, beat Chad GPT into submission to do this right, and then the the number that's above it, 2024 to 2025, that's actually where the solar minimum is. So the little the the curves that are on the visual are not right. The numbers that are
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: right here should be twenty thirty.
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: That's where twenty thirty is. Oh, okay. I swear, I try I tried for four hours straight last night to get it to apparently, I found its weakness. Yeah. So I'm gonna man for I'm sorry.
• 57:53
  Follow me at Climate Viewer on Rumble and on on YouTube. My next video, I will correct this. I will make it right because I'm gonna do an entire video about solar cycles. This is something called sunspots and mass excitability. It was written originally by Alexander Chieszewski.
• 58:14
  Dewey put out a, you know, what he thought the cycle looked like, and that's the points at the bottom. But what you see is basically this, that in times of solar maximum, you have times of revolution and war. And during solar minimums, have massive passivity and, you know, basically a just willing public that'll put up with just about anything, like COVID. So the next big dip we're gonna have happens to coincide with the next presidential election, the ending of the climate clocks, agenda 2030, David Key saying he's gonna start subscale geoengineering, Stardust Solutions saying they're gonna start geoengineering field experiments with a goal to full deployment by 2035. So to say all this is to say all of these things are aligning that if the sun is putting out less energy, we have a weakened ionosphere, because that's what powers the force field of the earth.
• 59:17
  Ionospheric heaters, they mess with that, so they can modify space weather. We have a weakened ionosphere, we get more galactic cosmic ray penetration, which creates more, that's ionization, from space. So the more ionization comes in, the more clouds we get, the more rainfall we get, the bigger the cloud cover we get. During a solar minimum you should see increased cloud cover, you should see more earthquakes and more volcanic eruptions as well. So I'm saying that to say this, if they geoengineered during solar minimum, they can say, we saved the world from global warming because we geoengineered.
• 59:59
  That's why the timeline is so short. They can say, well, you know, we didn't lie about global warming, we fixed it. And here's the scary factor, because we'll be in this grand solar minimum, the likelihood of volcanic eruptions goes up exponentially. Seth Baum wrote a paper in 2012 called The Double Catastrophe Theory, and in it, the world agrees to geoengineering, geoengineering governments is passed, this double catastrophe is Seth B A U M, for those who are playing along at home. Seth Baum, the double catastrophe theory, that we start geoengineering and then something happens like World War III.
• 1:00:48
  Well, then we can't continue to inject chemicals into the upper atmosphere, was our, Why does that say 2020? Bro, that was written in 2012. Oh, there it says date Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:01:01
  Okay.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: I guess it was posted then.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. But, yeah, that's the paper. And the idea is that, you know, we have societal collapse. We have World War three or, you know, the aliens show up and they're they're faking Project Bluebeam.
• 1:01:20
  You know, whatever it is, whatever the reason is, we can't continue to geoengineer after agreeing to do so. Well, you're gonna have climatory rebound very quickly because once you end abruptly injecting this is this is kinda like heroin. Like once you start geoengineering, you can't really stop, and that's the other creepy part about what they're planning. The other idea is that what if during a geoengineering deployment, let's say they start small in 2030 and they ramp it all the way up to full scale by 2035, we have a volcanic eruption. You've already decided you're gonna reduce the amount of incoming solar radiation, it's going to cool the planet massively quickly, it's going to change rainfall patterns worldwide, and then we have a year without a summer.
• 1:02:10
  We could have massive famine, we could have massive death. If you're looking for your depopulation scenario, I could not write a better one or a scarier film about it. This is the reality of the situation.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: Me jump in real quick. So if I understand correctly then, kind of piecing this all together, let me pull up. So we've got this right here. So that basically, they don't control these cycles. These are cycles that God controls.
• 1:02:49
  These are much larger.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: But, however, they will try to understand the cycles and use these cycles. It's kinda like someone who's really good at, you know, the jujitsu or, you know, different kinds of fighting where they're gonna use your energy against you. Right? If you come in for an attack, they're gonna turn it into a throw. Right?
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: I call it the art of helping people fall down.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: Okay. Yes. So they're gonna use the art of helping people depopulate. And so you think that a lot of what they're doing right now is not about right now, that they see that starting to you know, as we approach 2030 and moving into that that next decade, that there as you see right here in this this graph, that the solar conditions, the Earth condition is gonna we're entering into a phase that would oftentimes be associated with large scale disruption, earthquakes, volcanoes, drought, famine, war, which tends to fall on those things. So they're we're kinda entering into, like, we could almost call, like, a death cycle.
• 1:04:00
  And so they're kind of they're because we, you know, we understand through various mechanisms and, you know, whatever that they do want to reduce the Earth's population. And so is it is it almost as if they're kind of waiting for the right cosmic timing to then really push push the gas on these initiatives that will accelerate the chaos, accelerate you know what I mean? Like, they wanna take advantage of that inertia to then, I guess, create a mass depopulation, I guess, you know, kind of period of time. Right? Is that
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, it it works very simply. So in all weather modifications, especially when you're talking about geoengineering, this is called mesoscale. Mesoscale means extremely large scale, we're talking about all of North America, okay? If you're trying to modify weather on that kind of level, then you need a much bigger amount of energy. But if the earth is already going through a change and you can give it a gentle nudge, that is called the butterfly effect.
• 1:05:13
  The butterfly effect originated with the idea, does a butterfly flapping its wings in Brazil affect tornadoes in Texas? And that is how chaos theory works. That is how chaotic turbulent systems work. So if the sun is the most powerful driver of weather on the planet, period, end of story, 1,400 watts per meter squared, nothing comes close. Your next rad will never come close to that.
• 1:05:40
  Heart cannot come close to that. All of the energy produced by the planet focused into a laser beam could not do anything to overcome that. But just like with a stream, the stream is, let's say you got a stream of water this wide, this deep. If I put a basketball that's made of steel in there, Everything diverts around it. Now I've changed the flow of the river, but the river continues to flow.
• 1:06:11
  The sky is a river. It is constantly in motion. All weather modification, all geoengineering, all of the technologies that we mentioned up to this point, they modify the weather. God made the weather, God made the universe. It is a perfect design.
• 1:06:32
  We can use current technologies to modify that. And if you're a nefarious person, you can take advantage of it to make a situation worse. You can create climate chaos. There is no climate control. There won't be for a very long time.
• 1:06:50
  Even with all this, you know, fake AI where they say, oh, it's super intelligence, bro. It can't it makes up freaking citations and it hallucinates all the time. It couldn't even make that damn chart right. Excuse me. I said I wouldn't curse the entire but I you know, AI, it just wouldn't whole another topic.
• 1:07:13
  Anyway, so the point I'm trying to make is this. For everybody who's concerned about the lines in the sky, I am not saying don't be concerned about that. In fact, we wrote our petition to the EPA to say three things. We want you to remove sulfur from fuel. Why?
• 1:07:33
  The whole purpose of geoengineering stratospheric aerosol injection from its inception in 1997 was to mimic volcanoes. And what do volcanoes do? They put sulfur and soot into the stratosphere. So stratospheric aerosol injections have always been, up until today, stratospheric sulfur injections. David Keith has been quoted a thousand times saying, I would like to put about a 100 megatons of sulfur into this stratosphere per year, and that'll kill many tens of thousands of people straight out of his mouth.
• 1:08:14
  Same sentence, same time. In fact, if you don't believe me, go to weathermodificationhistory.com/geoengineering. You can hear him say it yourself. Tate's still there. The point I'm trying to make is this, that the airline industry is doing that.
• 1:08:31
  Every single year, we're burning about 2,850,000,000 barrels of jet fuel, and the average fuel sulfur content of that jet fuel is somewhere between 400 to 800 parts per billion. When you math it all out and then you say 80% of flights happen in the UTLS, this is the upper troposphere, lower stratosphere. That is where your chemtrails are being made. That's they don't not in the lower stratosphere, too dry. The upper troposphere, that's where the the conditions are right to make clouds.
• 1:09:10
  Once they get over that line, and even if they don't get over that line, a lot of those materials have now been found at 60,000 feet. The Indian Space Organization found 10,000 black carbon particles per cubic centimeter at 60,000 feet. That black carbon came from jet fuel emissions. That black carbon is covered in graphene, it is filled with all of the metals that have ever been associated with the Chemtrails narrative, and it's coated in sulfuric acid. Acid rain, sulfur injected at 60,000 feet.
• 1:09:48
  No planes flying at 60,000 feet, yet somehow this is able to migrate up. David Keith wrote a paper in 2010 called Photophoretic Levitation of Engineered Nanoparticles. In it, he described making a black particle that could levitate itself up. Why? Because when you heat a thing in the atmosphere that creates convection.
• 1:10:10
  Convection is lift. So all of these particles that are coming out of planes to the tune of 44,000,000 pounds of what are called non volatile particulate matter, these are soot and all the metals, in VPM. This is all in our EPA petition. We are calling for the EPA to remove the sulfur because it's lightening our sky. You've seen it.
• 1:10:37
  I've seen it. Everybody's seen it. They just don't know what they're looking for. That it also contributes to contrail persistence. When they say the word contrail, they focus on it's just water vapor.
• 1:10:51
  Why so glum? You're a stupid this or that. Ask them this, condensating on what? The truth of the matter is with condensation you can only have two types, there's heterogeneous and homogeneous, Homogeneous. You pick potato potato, right?
• 1:11:11
  Homogeneous nucleation means water sticking to itself and freezing. That's not happening. It's hetero, like heterosexual.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: So it's water attaching to other particles in the sky, like sulfur, soot.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: It's soot. Sulfur, soot, and metals. That's what's making these clouds.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: And so okay. And so maybe you know, because I I know that part of it is even reflecting on my own childhood. It's like, why didn't I didn't grow up in have these crisscross skies like this. Right? Which, you know, I I'd like to think that I didn't.
• 1:11:49
  I I can't remember what the sky looked like in particular when I was 10 years whole, you know, 10 years old laying on the the grass in the backyard staring up at the sky. But is it is it more so that the jet fuel itself has become they like, it's almost like maybe, like, they it's not that since the mid nineties, they've attached all these spraying nozzles and all these big commercial jets, and they're just kinda spraying up in the sky, but more so that the fuel itself, the fuel mixture has changed. And now that the the the fuel has become even more and more toxic and polluting, and so then that's what you're seeing. Right? You're seeing that at the right atmospheric conditions that what you're describing is happening.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: So there's a chart I sent you. It's the white one with the bars with all the little red arrows on
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: This one right here?
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And this is on chemtrailfacts.com. I want you all to go check it out, but this is showing from 1970 to present, and I'll just give the quick synopsis. In 1970, when I was born in 1976, the first civil high bypass turbofan was created. Before that, we had low bypass turbojets.
• 1:13:07
  High bypass turbofans create much more contrails than the older style engines because the older style engines made large, large pieces of soot as opposed to creating nanoparticles of soot. They also have burned at a much lower temperature, therefore they have less cooling necessary and more water created as a result of it. By 1990, let's see, 1990 right there, 90% of all flights are using high bypass turbofans. In 1970, there was about 220,000,000 passengers. By 1990, we had crossed the 1,000,000,000 passenger per year mark.
• 1:13:57
  Then we had the NATO single fuel concept where they converted from gasoline to kerosene. Kind of a big deal. Richard Fink invented the Chemtrails conspiracy on the Usenet news groups in 1997. William Thomas appeared on Art Bill's Coast to Coast AM 1999 to 2002, popularized Chemtrails, but both Richard Fink and William Thomas were talking about the new NATO fuel, JP eight, is creating contrails that are filled with ethylene dibromine. That's how the story starts.
• 1:14:35
  This is right after owning the weather. Weather as a force multiplier, owning the weather in 2025, which you can read the entire document on weathermodificationhistory.com. That's a real document, but that really started the ball rolling. And that's when Richard Fink posted about it. That's when William Thomas went on coast to coast AM, and suddenly the whole world is now looking up.
• 1:14:58
  But what else changed? In 2000 let's see. Right there at 2000, we're now at 1,700,000,000 passengers per year. This is not total flights. This is just passengers on this chart.
• 1:15:14
  MySpace was invented in 2003. Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, iPhone, from 2003 to 2007, half of the world now has a mobile phone with a built in camera in their back pocket by 2006. By 2010, we are now at 2,200,000,000 passengers per year, and then something very monumental happened in 2010. What in the world were they spraying was released. This was produced by Gerard Griffin and Michael Murphy, also starring Dane Wiggington, and this becomes the first official blockbuster film on Chemtrails.
• 1:15:58
  Meanwhile, from 2010, we go from 2,600,000,000 passengers per year to 4,400,000,000 passengers in 2019. Then COVID hits. Now we're back up over the 5,000,000,000 passenger per year list number. All of these things are going on at the same time. Also, what happened that really increased the the number of strikes you're seeing in the sky was the reduced vertical separation minimum, RBSM, was implemented in 1988 and worldwide adoption by 2011.
• 1:16:41
  That's one year after what in the world are they spraying, suddenly every plane on the planet didn't have to fly 2,000 feet apart vertically, they could fly 1,000 feet apart. The reason this matters is, and if you'll bring up the other image that says contral formation by altitude, it's got the three jets on it. The reason this matters is because now you can compress way more flights into that small area where all of the contrasts Okay. Can So we went from about 24,000,000 flights per year in 2004 to 42,000,000 flights in 2019.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: I see. So the so the change, let's just say happening going from, say, '95 to 2025. Right? It it it wasn't that all of a sudden, they're just dumping all this money into this into all these jets spraying us, and that's what's happened. It's that the engines have changed.
• 1:17:49
  They're using engines that will produce what what we're seeing in the sky. They changed the fuel type. Right? So they they changed the fuel type. The amount of flights happening has doubled, tripled, quadrupled, etcetera.
• 1:18:03
  And they're also now
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: Just just to clarify, the the the j p eight, that's a military flu.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay. That's not for
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: commercial jets. Commercial commercial jets have barely changed at all Okay. During this entire timeline that I just discussed.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: I see.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: It's something that people get wrong that, you know, constantly misattributed as saying. So I wanna be very clear on that. Commercial aviation, the fuel hasn't really changed. The technology that's changed is the type of engines and where they fly and how many they can compact in, the number of flights. And for every gallon, for every ton of jet fuel you burn, you produce 1.24 tons of water.
• 1:18:47
  That's right, you make more water than you actually have fuel that you burn. So what this is actually doing is it's constantly replenishing the humidity, the water levels at the flight altitude. You're actually creating more of these isopersaturated regions, is the RHI. RHW is relative humidity with respect to water. If you have negative 50 degrees Celsius and greater than 60% relative humidity, you're gonna create a contour.
• 1:19:24
  Whether it's a short one, a long one, or a persistent one that turns into a cirrus cloud, those are the numbers that matter. Quit RHI. Good.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: For you. Why so I I've I've seen a handful of videos where you'll see the a plane, and it's almost like it's turning something on and off. It creates, like, a dashed line worth what causes that then?
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: So there's a couple different things that happen with that. These icy supersaturated regions, you can't just imagine them vertically. They can be separated. Alright. So you get gravitational waves.
• 1:19:59
  You get turbulence. Alright? Turbulence is where air is moving up and down like this. So if you have this, imagine this water bubble here, and then you've got air that's rapidly cooling and it's falling, it's gonna cut it off right there. Because it's coming down from the stratosphere, it's gonna be much drier air.
• 1:20:22
  So you get a dry patch, and then you get because you get a sine wave with gravitational waves, with turbulence, things like that, You can actually have several cases where and and this is your glider friends. Don't trust me on this. In fact, don't trust me on anything I said today. You can contact me, Jim at Climate Viewer dot com. Tell me where I'm wrong.
• 1:20:45
  But ask your glider buddies because they look for these.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: I don't have any glider buddies. I've got a small friend pool.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: Go on a glider forum, and what you'll see is they look for these. These are thermals. Thermals cause convection. Convection causes clouds to where you have roll clouds, where you you see these long roll clouds. That's usually caused by what are called lee waves.
• 1:21:11
  My name's Jim Lee. It's a coincidence. They're not named after me. I'm not that special. But lee waves come off of mountains, and they do like this.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: If a plane flies through that, it's gonna cause it's almost like it's turning on and off. Right? Because
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's you're gonna you're that's one example of, like seven different reasons why that can occur. In some cases, the exhaust itself isn't even creating the contrail. These are called aerodynamic contrails. This is where a plane is literally just pushing through such a moist region that over the wing compression happens.
• 1:21:52
  This is actually homogenous nucleation, not heterogeneous nucleation. You can see this, there are footage of like planes landing. Any shot of like a fighter jet banking real hard and you see clouds that form over the wings. Have you ever seen any
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: of Yeah. Yep.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: That's called an aerodynamic contrail. So, when you see these videos that people are purporting to be chemtrail spraying and there's a rainbow going from wingtip to wingtip, that is actually an aerodynamic contrail. It's a different type of cloud formation caused by atmospheric conditions and pressure changes. I I'm one of those people that I believed everything back in 2010, And kicking and screaming and debating my way through this came to the conclusion that through my own observation and testing and rigorous testing over and over again, I've come to the the sole conclusion that I have not seen one example in the past seven years that I had my Nikon p 100 out, you know, I'm stare 85 times optical zoom. I'm checking flight trackers.
• 1:23:09
  I'm checking radio signs. I have not seen a Chemtrail from a pump or a pipe, and there has never been one example ever proposed on the Internet. There is no evidence whatsoever that pumps and pipes are doing this. And the proof is that you can literally go use a Contrail Finder plugin on windy.com and test it yourself. You can go to University of Wyoming or UCAR or College of DuPage.
• 1:23:39
  For all the people who love watching NEXRADS control the weather, you're on College of DuPage every single day show making videos about it anyway. So you can't trust it that that's making you know, showing me my weather control and not trust it when it's got upper atmospheric soundings from radio signs, which tell you, here's the humidity, here's the temperature, here's what the RHI is. Are these the conditions that would make clouds? If there are no conditions to make clouds, if the numbers do not fit, you must quit. And so for me personally, I you know, I'm I'm looking and I go like, I know today that we have a high pressure ridge over South Carolina.
• 1:24:23
  So we got high pressure, we don't have, you know, the temperature up there and the humidity's off. I'm watching like a hawk for any plane coming by to prove me wrong because that's what I wanna film. I wanna catch Bigfoot. I have never been able to do it. So you can't either.
• 1:24:44
  That's that's what I'm trying to tell you. This is my Chemtrail challenge to everybody. I put it out in my last video. You're watching the wrong altitude. It's on my substack right now.
• 1:24:55
  And my challenge is this, you know, go out there, look at this information, check what your atmospheric conditions are today, use your flight tracker, get a telescope if you need to, look up plane spotting. You can there's you can zoom all the way in and literally see the pilot waving at you from the window. I mean, there's people out there with really fancy setups. So I'm not gonna accept, but my my flights I see don't show up on radar. And it's not an acceptable answer anymore because in the seven years that I spent wasting my time out there every single day, I saw two flights that didn't show up on radar.
• 1:25:36
  So if 97% of the flights you're seeing are Delta and Southwest and all this and they're making clouds the way you would expect them to, then guess what? This is a pollution problem. If I'm if if if I'm wrong, then guess what? We're the only people on the planet who've even offered a solution or even attempted a solution at this problem. If you go to American, and I'm gonna drop this link, I dropped it to you on X, if you go to americancleanaircoalition.org right now, this is not my website, this is a website that we created after the fact so that you can read our EPA petition right there.
• 1:26:20
  You can click on that and you can read it. And it has 170 references in it, and all of the facts are there about it. You can't make this stuff up. These are the real world harms caused by planes making clouds and planes injecting chemicals into this stratosphere. If you click that view presentation slides, there's a plethora of loveliness in there.
• 1:26:52
  So this is our EPA petition and you can just rapid scroll through it. We're not advocating less flights, biofuels, UN, WF, agendas, what we are advocating is end fake clouds, get rid of sky whitening and pollution verification. This is called an endangerment finding, and basically we're telling them, hey, we want aviation induced cloudiness, sulfur oxides, metals, all of these things, we want them to be classified as a danger under the Clean Air Act, and then that means that they have to write regulations and stop them from doing it. Scroll down just a bit. I wanna show you just a couple of these slides that I think that you'll you'll find kind of blockbuster.
• 1:27:33
  Just scroll past that. Proposals to ban geoengineering in '37, now 38 states, people haven't really got it right, and they're in the states that they have banned, the weather modification geoengineering strikes haven't gone away. You can use these apps to track it, but keep going down a little bit, and here's where, you know, the chart that I showed you earlier. EPA leaves Zeldin getting mad about 220 pounds coming from Meg Sunsets, but ignores 747,000,000 pounds of sulfur dioxide reaching the UTLS. Make it make sense.
• 1:28:07
  David Keith, the geoengineer, said, you can't write legislation that says you can't put sulfur in the stratosphere since every commercial flight does that. That's the geoengineer. Bifurcated stratosphere. We have the entire Northern Hemisphere is chemically distinct from the Southern Hemisphere. We have a pristine Southern Hemisphere, which doesn't have this white hazing, doesn't have all this pollution, and you can see right here, aviation pollution regions is a stratosphere.
• 1:28:40
  This is what it looks like at 60,000 feet, 10,000 black carbon particles per cubic centimeter coated in sulfur, that is what we're dealing with here. That is what is whitening the sky is the sulfur attached to these chemicals that are lofting up there. And we have 21.4 gigagrams, which is 47,000,000 pounds of metals and soot. What metals and soots? They're on the very next slide.
• 1:29:09
  We're talking about aluminum, barium, molybdenum, vanadium, copper, nickel, lead, manganese, the list goes on. All of these come from the jet fuel, the engine oils, and engine erosion itself. This is modifying the weather. It is, in some cases, increasing rainfall and in other cases, decreasing rainfall the exact same way. Wallace McCray right there, if you read that quote could you read that quote for me right there?
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: It appears likely that inadvertent cloud seating by jet aircraft may be the same order of magnitude as that attained in commercial cloud seating operations. It's 1970.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 2: That was Wallace McCray in 1970 on the possibility of weather modification by aircraft contrails. You can't make this up, they've known about it for a long time. This next photo is classic and this is exactly what I'm talking about. This is what geoengineering looks like and Doctor. Charles Long said, I'm talking about a sub visual contrail generated haze of ice, which we do not classify as a cloud, but gives the blue sky a more whitish tint.
• 1:30:22
  We might already be conducting some unintentional geoengineering here. This is doctor Charles Long from Noah's Sea Res Science Lab. So the proof is there. Like, there you got some of the top scientists on the planet going, this is happening. And what are we gonna continue to ignore all the evidence?
• 1:30:51
  There's more slides there, I don't wanna go on ad nauseam about this, but this is, you know, the Contrail Avoidance as a Geoengineering Scheme that we can, you know, I interviewed Doctor. Rangasai Hathori from the Aviation Climate Change Research Initiative, his joint FAA's NASA thing, where they were testing biofuels for contrail control. And in the interview, I asked him, Ulrich Schumann said in 2010, we want to make less warming, more cooling contrails predictable for operational planning. He said this to the ICAO, the International Civil Aviation Organization. And I said, dude, what do you mean by that?
• 1:31:27
  And I know what he meant by that, but I wanted to get clarification. I wanted to hear it from the horse's mouth. He said, we want to get more, we would like to have more contrail induced cirrus clouds by day and none during the night. Because at night, high thin cirrus clouds trap outgoing long wave radiation, infrared radiation. They trap heat at night.
• 1:31:50
  You look like the kind of guy who's been camping before. Am I right?
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: Of course.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So would you say that it's warmer at night when it's cloudy?
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: Would say. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah. If you can see the stars at night, it's crispy bones.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: It's crispier. Yeah. Even the summer that you can, you can feel the difference when it's cloudy at night, there's a thickness to the air.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: The reason why is because there's two things that and everybody knows about the first, solar radiation management. What they don't know about is the second half, earth radiation management. This is what's called cirrus cloud thinning. And that Biden report that everybody holds up and they say, well, the Biden administration, this and that, they didn't read the first paragraph because the first paragraph says, we'd like to do research on solar radiation, stratospheric aerosol injection, SAI, MCB, marine cloud brightening, and CCT, cirrus cloud thinning. When he says that he wants no clouds at night, what he's saying is we can use things like bismuth triiodide, we can use contral avoidance to not make clouds that persist into the nighttime because they trap heat.
• 1:33:10
  The heat comes down, it hits the ground. And then at night it returns back to space and that's the outgoing long wave radiation. Incoming shortwave radiation can be reflected, but long wave radiation still penetrates even through the clouds. But when it's going back out, it gets trapped and it just keeps bouncing up and down. If any man made global warming is going on at all, it's made by clouds, it's not CO2 stupid.
• 1:33:40
  I mean, like, this is the thing. Heinrich Svensmark is one of the most brilliant guys, you know, followed him for years, and he's right on the money. Jasper Kirkby from CERN went and proved validated all of this. You know, we were wrong. We don't need all this stuff.
• 1:33:55
  We can litter. Trees can make clouds.
• 1:33:59
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• 1:34:54
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• 1:35:16
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• 1:35:21
  Speaker 2: The understanding of cloud aerosol interaction is the greatest unknown in climate science. And they readily admit this behind closed doors in the journals, and you read all this stuff, but in reality, you have two opposing groups. For the first from 1900 till about JFK, let's say 1960, restoring the quality of our environment, these papers were published, the goal was to melt the ark. It's always been the goal, it still is today. Why?
• 1:35:53
  It is the new Cold War. Look it up. New Cold War Arctic drilling, how Russia and America are in a fight over Greenland and the whole Polar Cap because it's filled with oil and gas. So you have this bifurcation where you then get the climate people who are going, but my polar bears, but my global warming, we need to stop that. Who makes jet fuel?
• 1:36:19
  The oil industry. Who wants to melt the Arctic? The oil industry. Can we do both? Can we somehow make clouds and still melt the Arctic?
• 1:36:33
  Yeah, we can. The fact that we have all these planes making all these clouds, but people are getting more sunburned, does that make sense to you? It does if you understand how Mie scattering actually works and how diffuse light and radiation works. So the more diffuse light we get, the more under, this actually even affects forest fires. All of this plays together and it's all explained in explicit detail in this, you know, EPA petition.
• 1:37:08
  This is why people, even the most popular people in the entire Chemtrails world that doesn't use the word Chemtrails but always is talking about it, is mentioning my name on his little weekly update two weeks ago because they're threatened by the truth. When people understand the truth and that there's something they can do about it, that is what God wants for you. If you didn't catch this theme throughout the Bible, it was fear not. The thing that I have sworn myself to do is to never come from a place of fear to induce fear in others is to empower them. Everything that I've done, every hour I've spent, I promised God that I would be true to myself and true to others and give them all the receipts that made me come to the conclusion that I have so that you can determine for yourself and be less fearful.
• 1:38:09
  We can do something about this. We can make these clouds go away if people understand how it works. But first you've gotta be willing to admit to yourself that you may not have it all figured out. Lord knows I don't have it all figured out, but I've come a hell of a long way in these last twenty years. And I have been wrong so many times, but I had to admit it every single time on YouTube in front of everybody.
• 1:38:34
  I confessed that I was in bondage to sin, and I thought I was right. But guess what? I was wrong again. Status four fifty di dienonanapfilsulfonic acid is not barium salt that's added to the jet fuel. I was wrong.
• 1:38:52
  I've been I said it for three years straight. There are people to this day who still go, but Jim said status four fifty was burying salt, man. And I'm like, yeah. I did. I said that then, but I was wrong.
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: So Yeah. So, anyway, this is this is interesting, I'll I'll have to to wrap up now. But
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: This is really important because I feel like that what this does is that it it moves things from this more abstract, scary kind of thing into something that that I feel like you you can understand more rationally and understand how to approach it. And that's what I'm kinda taking from one of the big things I'm taking from this is actually looking at and saying, oh, this is it's a pollution issue. There's there's obviously, there's lot of other things happening. There's a lot of geoengineering. There's all kinds of other things that are that are bad.
• 1:39:49
  But even framing okay. What am I looking at in the sky right now? Is this a sky is this is this a day where the evil agenda is is is cranked all the way up and they're just dumping poisons on me and my kids? It's like, well, it's to a certain degree, yes, but it's still it's it's pollution, the right atmosphere, you know, conditions, and it's but it's also it's like, okay. Well, make sure you're focused on the right enemy.
• 1:40:13
  Make sure you're you're focused on the right thing.
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 2: Don't be Real quick caveat on that. And and this is the part that really drives me crazy. The 44,000,000 pounds of nanoparticles, the 280 nanoparticles per year, the 10 nanoparticles per second that come out of these jet engines, they're happening whether you see a cloud or not. So the focusing on the cloud is to miss, you know, the pollution for the lines in the sky. You're you're you're you're saying to yourself, I give myself permission to go outside today because it's a no spray day.
• 1:40:59
  And that is a that is a very bad way to look at this because the pollution that's coming out of these planes is is building up in the stratosphere whether you see clouds or not. It's raining down on you whether you see clouds or not. So every day is a spray day. And and this is the part, if you don't hear anything else I'm saying, understand that this is why I consider it such a serious concern. Two things.
• 1:41:29
  We're at 42,000,000 flights, 45,000,000 flights this year, per year. By 2050, it will be double. Let that sink in. And number two, if we don't deal with this pollution issue and we don't simultaneously keep our ball, eye on the ball of the geoengineers that are trying to pass laws, geoengineering governance, trying to loft that chemical to 90,000 feet so that they can save us from the global warming. If we don't focus on both at the same time, on the cloud seeding programs, the names, the addresses of these companies are available, you're paying for it with your tax dollars.
• 1:42:15
  If you live in Sacramento and you pay your water bill, then SMUD, the Sacramento Municipal Utility District, they pay 900,000 to $2,000,000 per year for cloud seeding. Know who you're, you know, you you have got the if you wanna be an activist and you wanna do something about this, you can in every single sector, but you really gotta care. And there are days where I get up and I go, you know what? I don't know why I'm doing this. I'm never gonna get through to a lot of these people, but if I only reach 10% of you and you're spurred to action, as Margaret Mead said, never doubt that a small group of dedicated individuals can change the world, In fact, they're the only thing that ever did.
• 1:43:04
  I'm looking for that 10% of you that are gonna walk away from this and say, you know what, maybe they're not spraying us like bugs, maybe it is pollution, maybe they are gonna geoengineer in the future, I don't really need to be concerned about it. It's somebody else's problem. But if you hear this and you go, you know what? I'm at least gonna take the time and I'm gonna read what this dude, this crazy dude with the weird hair with the southern accent is saying, I'm gonna read the paper and just give it a shot, and then I'm gonna test my you know, test out little things that he's saying. Let's see if we can predict, you know, when it's gonna be a spray day.
• 1:43:41
  Well, guess what? There's something we can do about that right now. We can deal with that. We can fix that. But we also gotta still keep our eye on stopping geoengineering, and it's not something you can do on a state level.
• 1:43:56
  It's gonna the only thing that will stop geoengineering is the threat of force. And the only thing powerful enough to do that is our US Congress and Senate basically enforcing what NMOD said back in 1976. If you release chemicals into the stratosphere, that is a direct threat to our national security, and if you threaten our national security by geoengineering, we will meet you with force, not just sanctions, force. The only thing that ever stopped a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. So it is on us to force our representatives to understand that this is a national security concern that we want addressed.
• 1:44:43
  It should be we've got till the next presidential election to raise Hades about this and make them understand that we're not talking about your conspiracy theory. That's what's neutered us so far. That's what that's what gets me up every single time to come back to this and say, if I give up, then we're gonna lose. We're on a losing path so far. But every time somebody goes and they get the ear of their representative or they're trying to do something about it on the state level, and they don't understand the problem, it may be one step forward, but it could be three steps back, because you don't get that second chance to make a first impression.
• 1:45:29
  I want us to win. I want us to ban geoengineering. I want us to regulate till it's deleted weather modification projects. You're not gonna do it West Of The Mississippi, but you know, East Of The Mississippi. Anyway, whole another story there, but you know, I want people to be involved and I want them to be educated, and I hope that what I'm creating with these websites, you can find it, you know, climateviewer.com, go there, my websites are linked at the top of the page, my social medias are linked underneath it, I publish everything on my substack, so whenever I put a new video out, climateviewer.news is my substack, you'll get it in your inbox and you can, you know, just check your email and know whenever something new has been posted.
• 1:46:17
  And I hope that you will be constructive. Give me your constructive criticism. Fill me in where the blanks are. But, you know, and and I and I'll and I'll I'll leave with this. I've been called gatekeeper so many times and I'll say this, I am not trying to tell you don't listen to other people.
• 1:46:38
  In fact, I will right now tell you, I would like you to go to Dean Wiggington's website, geoengineeringwatch.org. Go watch the dimming. I think that you should. Read Peter Kirby's book. Go buy it.
• 1:46:52
  Chemtrails, the Manhattan Project. Do it. I want you to listen to everybody out there equally, and I think that when you listen to what I have to say, and you go through my websites, that you're smart enough and you're God given discernment that you will see that for every story there are two sides to it and somewhere in the middle lies the truth. I hope that my version of the story is the truth. I am open to the possibility that I am wrong.
• 1:47:27
  But so far, I've been batting really high, and I hope that you guys will, you know, don't listen to those people that are telling you, hey. These people are, you know, they're the shills. They're the agents. And only listen to these people. You know what that does?
• 1:47:44
  That tribalism divides us even more. I would get I would love nothing more than for me and Dane and Peter and everybody and Jay Marmon Herndon and the geo fight and all of us to come together and say, here's what we agree on. Here's what we can prove, and here's what we're gonna do about what we can prove today. That would be the greatest thing, and I pray to God that that happens. That would be the greatest thing that could happen.
• 1:48:15
  Human nature says that it probably won't, but at the end of the day, I always tell people, attack ideas, not people. I do not you know, I don't fault the man. I will take you know, I will criticize what you have to say if I believe strongly enough and my evidence is there. I think that people should be more open minded about this and you should be more curious because I was I too was a Chemtrails believer until I proved to myself beyond a shadow of a doubt that every pump and pipe I've ever seen was misattributed. It was from Youngstown Air Reserve Base, it was a ballast tank.
• 1:49:00
  It was every single time, and I believed it for so long. And I understand that it's very tough to not believe something after you've been believing it for long enough because I've been there. Seth, I I could literally go on for three hours. You're gonna have to just tell me to shut up and
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 1: Well, okay.
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 2: I'm very passionate about this topic.
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 1: No. It's it's good. Well, I can tell you I learned a lot, and, I wanna encourage people to check out your websites. I'll make sure we have some links in the show description. And we'll have to do this again because that was we I feel like that we only covered about a third of what we could have covered.
• 1:49:39
  So we'll to do this again. And but in the meantime, thank you for the time you've given us today. Thank you for what you're doing. Thank you for the actions that you're taking. And I my hope is that people came into this with an open mind and, you know, had some of their views challenged, and and that's why I was I enjoy that.
• 1:49:57
  I I like throwing my ideas up against, you know, the opposition and seeing what can actually hold up. And, I I I look for these opportunities, so I I appreciate this. And, yeah, thank you again for coming on. It's been it's been really, really enjoyable talking to you.
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate it, and God bless you, Seth. Love your show. This yeah. I couldn't not do this.
• 1:50:21
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