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ERICA CAMPBELL TALKS DIVORCE, LOVE, AND MULTIPLE MARRIAGE PROPOSALS · Love You Moore with Willie Moore Jr.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Next on the Love You More Show.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We got married.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He was twenty-five.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I was twenty-eight.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, hello.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So we're young, right?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't know.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm three years old in the him.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He was my third ring.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I hope some people would twice.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Did you say yes to any of those guys or no?
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I've always been able to be very mature even in my break-ups.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Even in the break-ups, I know how to say, I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't work.
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[SPEAKER_04]: One dude played me and I was like, give me some.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You got me, you want me again.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I remember me and Tina were performing never wave my flag.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that was my favorite.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But I was performing that and I had an excruciating headache.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I could barely walk when walk off stage.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I said, take me straight to the hospital.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They rushed me and when they took my blood pressure, I think I remember the top number for the bottom numbers, two hundred.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Warren, Warren picking up kids, like Warren is, that man at home putting it down, hear me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Love you more.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Love you more.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Love you more.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Hey family and nephew, Willie Mo Jr.
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[SPEAKER_03]: here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Listen, beautiful day to have a beautiful day.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Welcome to the Love You More Show.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It is truly honor when I get an opportunity to sit down with greatness.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You're going to get a chance to experience that great person in a moment, but not before I tell you one amazing thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, here's the thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know that a lot of y'all, you kind of pop in, kind of look or whatever, but I actually want you to join the community and just kind of hang out with us and like really making investment a time to hang out with us because we're gonna dive deeper.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We got a lot of great guests that are coming.
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[SPEAKER_03]: A lot of great information is coming and Katie, we're starting to drill down, you know, what we represent who we are.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm encouraging you to love you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Come on, say it with me more.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Praise God.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, today, big day.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm talking about huge day.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I get a chance to hang out with somebody that I watched for a very, very long time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Sounds a little creepy, but it's not like that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She's just like a mega star as it pertains to music.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I remember before I bring her, like introduce you to her, I remember I was really trying to come up in the gospel world.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Of course, I was fresh off of the pretty, really world.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it was just sending me around just to different places for promo stuff.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I was just like,
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I'm used to making money and clubs.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is unique.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They were like giving me crosses and like no money.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But ended up in LA and it was only a few gospel artists that I knew and it was the pretty girls, the Mary Mary girls and I thought that name was Mary.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let me just be honest with you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I remember we were like at six flags or something.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I seen Mary Mary.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, that's Mary and that's Mary.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I never really understood why their mom would name them Mary and Mary, but I figured George's form and name all his kids George.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I guess it was okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so I think I went up to now I know as Tina.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I said, Tina, I know I said Mary.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Can I take a picture?
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[SPEAKER_03]: She was like, Mary?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She's like, Mary, all the day.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna be honest with you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But we ended up beating the other sister who I found out was actually Erica Campbell and she ended up taking a picture with me and my heart perpetrated.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And we had a moment who would think, you know, almost fifteen years later, that I get an opportunity to call her friend and colleague, ladies and gentlemen, the one and only Erica Campbell.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I'm good.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Listen, hey, I say hi to all of it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's all good.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I listen.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I thought I don't think I've ever heard that story.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was in LA.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was for something.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They had like a gospel thing at six flags or something like that or one of the things.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, oh, that's the, you know, I'm talking back then.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Of course, you know, I was just
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, just a pretty gospel people right there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, that's Mary Mary.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then my head, I'm like, that's Mary.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And that's Mary, right here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Tina, look me right in the face and said, no, no, Mary is off today.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I said, Tina's always been very good with boundaries.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Me and not so much.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, Mary is off today.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then I came to you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, hey, how you doing?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Actually, I take a picture.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think the white was in like vibe magazine a week or something.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She's like, you were in the desert.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, go ahead.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, so maybe, I mean, I love you, Tina, but she was my favorite.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because she gave me a hug.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She gave me a hug.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I did.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I did.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's hilarious.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, Erica, I want to be honest with you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, the way we do it here on the love you more show, love you more also has a series that that it also has.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so traditionally, you know, shows, come on, we'll begin to talk.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But we use music as an icebreaker.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So we know you have a new album.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And we're going to talk about that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I want to use this song.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's called Save Room For Me to me the icebreaker to the conversation that I want to have with you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Check this out.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Is there anybody out there?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is there anybody out there?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Is there anybody out there?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Is there anybody out there?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is there anybody out there?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Is there anybody out there?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Who needs to forgive God like me?
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm scared of it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That's mine.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Is there anybody out there?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: God is selfishly like me.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh God God God God God God God God God God God God God God God God God God God God God God God God God God God God
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I was thinking about the woman that you've become.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it was a song on your album when you guys were screaming out Eddie, you know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so I just want to kind of run back in twenty thirteen.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And you get the news that Eddie's gone.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And here's like your father.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because I see how you honor your husband.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like
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[SPEAKER_03]: what part of Eddie became kind of the blueprint of how you honor me in terms of relationship, like what part of Eddie did you take into your marriage to say, I'm gonna be honorable in this particular way.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's just talk about Eddie for a little while.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So that's really complicated because my dad was his great big personality, very charismatic.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He would always light up a room at the classic women loved him.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Me wanted to be him type vibe.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I remember watching him preach in the way he would articulate the word and give it life in this fresh meaning.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I was always just amazing to me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So when I stopped seeing my parents as
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[SPEAKER_04]: parents and I started seeing them as people when I started realizing their brokenness and their issues.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I was not reflective of me because I think every kid that goes through issues with their parents, you know, having problems in a relationship, you take blame first.
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[SPEAKER_04]: If I was a better kid, I was thirteen.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think the first time they broke up.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Now they broke up three different times.
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[SPEAKER_04]: When you started broke up, is it like divorce?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Just divorce.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And got back married again three times.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Then divorced again.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Then got back together again.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Daddy came back again.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The last time you left, I said, Daddy, don't.
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[SPEAKER_04]: If you come back, you better stay.
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[SPEAKER_04]: If you gone, stay gone.
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[SPEAKER_04]: This is too much from my heart.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We can't take it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: By this time, we're married by now.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So the last court case we all went together.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And it was just, it's very interesting.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I saw my mother still operate from a place of respect, which I thought was weakness.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Um, every time she would allow him to come back every time there was a family event, and she was still making his plate.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'd be like, you know, each other, he wanted, and you over here still.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But I saw respect and honor in ways that I had never seen it out in the world.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I seen it in my house.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I, you know, after my father passed, what I found out he passed, I was in a mall in LA.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And somebody called and said Daddy was gone.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I just remember running through that mall swimming.
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[SPEAKER_04]: No.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Just screaming God, no running through the mall.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I got some of my car and I just took a deep breath.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And of course, the pain and all the things that come with that and the processing and we were in the middle of filming the reality show.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We're cameras there, Dan, or you will know.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Good.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_04]: No, but.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The cameras were there when some other conversations happened and we happened to be in the Bahamas.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Actually, on one love cruise.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I had also just started doing solo stuff.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I had just had Zaya.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We had just launched the church.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So there was a lot of the center.
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[SPEAKER_04]: All this in my life.
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[SPEAKER_04]: what I learned from my dad is strength.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, he would always say, if you faint in the day of adversity, you're strength is small.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He said it all the time.
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[SPEAKER_04]: If you faint in the day of adversity, you're strength is small.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And so like here the already.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I always learn to kind of bear down when it got tough.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I even now to this day, like if something chaotic happens, I get quiet first.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And then I take a deep breath.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Now I may panic and cry and stuff later, but if first in the moment, I
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't, I'm not a scream.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not that kind of girl.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't, I just, I just kind of get quite a person.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I learned that from my, from my dad.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But lessons from my mom and dad were kind of intertwined because like I said, I think I was about sixteen when I realized their people.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They are human beings.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So how did that affect the way you view God?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because like he's past youth pastor and doing all of that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then of course, mom just saw the word doing what she's doing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like you're thirteen years old.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And like I really want to kind of hone in on that thirteen age.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because there's so many families that experience divorce.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So that experience.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then the main issue is like the children.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So how do I like how do I make it okay for the children?
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[SPEAKER_03]: So how did he speak to you?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like how did he pour into you from a distance?
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[SPEAKER_03]: What did that look like for you?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I never doubted that God was real.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I never doubted that he cared overall, but I didn't know that he cared very much about how I felt individually.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Because when things didn't, you know, we were poor, we moved a lot, literally about fifteen times.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't always go to the same schools.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, I'm saying we was cute, but we was poor.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So clothes was raggedy, you know, sand.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So you know, the catch went to she cute, but her shoes raggedy tied by.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So you're thirteen.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'll never forget.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Um, I, you know, was guests, but I couldn't afford guests.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I had just and so I was walking down the hall.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's good for my time.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Just jeans.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Just jeans.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, go ahead.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's the same little triangle.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, so that was the tune.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The knockoff.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So this dude was behind me and he was going just what just what I was like, what do you tell him?
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[SPEAKER_04]: He was like, just because your pan day and guess and so everybody laughed.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But again, my dad told me, yeah, my dad told me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, just what?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Just keep watching me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's all.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And so I kept walking.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I was quick.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, she thinks she cute.
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[SPEAKER_04]: No, you think I'm cute.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's why you said it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But it's okay.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Have a good day.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Come on.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So always.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, I mean, I always knew how to end that was from my dad.
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[SPEAKER_04]: My dad was very sarcastic.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We didn't grow up in a house where he was even though with seven girls, he wouldn't like tender and fragile with it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: No boys.
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[SPEAKER_04]: My oldest brother.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think you do have older brother.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, but he was gone and grown.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And so like in somebody dropped and fails, you know, and hurt, you know, not hurt themselves, but even like nice move grace pick it up.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, I'm saying, so he was always.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So we we weren't very tender.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Tim it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We was like, what like, Hey, CC, like we wasn't that was like, all right, dummy, what stupid, like it was that
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's bad.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not good.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So how did that affect the communication when you got married?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, did that travel over?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, because if you were that quick on your feet with just jeans, I can only imagine if you leave some socks on the floor.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, let's talk about that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I just want to, you know, I'm kind of just wanting to know, like, yeah, because I'm trying to like get this beautiful pair of little of where you came from, how it happened.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm trying to love you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I mean, because now we're in the Avenue, like, really says I love you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, y'all looking like relationship goes, but how did that reflect like how did those actions so consciously reflect on how you what you became as a wife later on?
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[SPEAKER_04]: So, you know, our, our courtship relationship friendship was interesting, but I was always very focused.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I remember we were making the thankful record.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We were literally working on the song.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Thank for Lord.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm thankful for what we're going on at.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, we was having some bumpy times and he was like, I just need some space.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And so, you know, I said, okay, but we was supposed to be a studio the next day.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And so he said he needed space and I'm, you know, crying like within myself, because I'm too cool to let him know that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But you don't cry.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I do.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm saying you didn't cry.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He didn't know what you were feeling.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But I was like, OK, space.
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[SPEAKER_04]: What time do I have to be to the studio tomorrow?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't care that about space.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, I wanted to sing longer than I loved you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I take space.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But what time am I at the studio, though?
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[SPEAKER_04]: So that's kind of always been my vibe.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm a get done.
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[SPEAKER_04]: What I need to get done.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So fast forward to us being married.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And then there's no switch in your back that says you know how to be a husband or your wife.
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[SPEAKER_04]: There is no book.
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[SPEAKER_04]: that can accurately tell you how to love this person.
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[SPEAKER_04]: People can tell you their experience.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You can see people, you can watch people.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But until you get in it, you don't know y'all come from two different households, two different lives.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, him, his family, it's just him, his mom and dad.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's four people.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I got a thousand people.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm always thinking of others.
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[SPEAKER_04]: If you are an only child, you're not constantly thinking of others.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's foreign to you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So you may think someone is invading your space.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: when they automatically do he had a problem when he put my hand in his plate and I just could not understand what's the problem because I grew up with hands in my plate all the time.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah, some of that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, there is.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's like I will buy you your own.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I said you really don't want to share with me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Why should I be your wife if you don't even want to share with me?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, what's the problem?
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's just like you're right to the words.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Why should I be your wife?
14:21
[SPEAKER_03]: Always.
14:22
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm I'm a take it too far in a nice way.
14:27
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yes, so, you know, he's in the studio.
14:28
[SPEAKER_04]: He's really becoming more humble.
14:31
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, you know, our first house that we built was a eight thousand square foot house with all of this stuff, a pool of basketball court.
14:40
[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm working and he got working and we gone all the time.
14:44
[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm like, I could lead his house for six months and he wouldn't even know.
14:48
[SPEAKER_04]: I would say that I said it to a lot of people around him because I truly believe that.
14:53
[SPEAKER_04]: what I now know is he, he didn't know how to operate.
14:56
[SPEAKER_04]: I'd be at home and he on his way home from the studio and I'm up in the room.
15:00
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm posted up my sex and I'm cute and I'm thinking he gonna come up going, hey, hey, no, the door open.
15:07
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, maybe you got some drink in the, okay, you want to catch the first.
15:11
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, that's fine.
15:12
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm still waiting.
15:12
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm posted up.
15:14
[SPEAKER_04]: I did not hear the TV come up.
15:15
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, maybe you want to check sports.
15:18
[SPEAKER_04]: The video game, the video game first.
15:22
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
15:23
[SPEAKER_04]: Madden something.
15:25
[SPEAKER_03]: Come on.
15:25
[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, listen to those of you who don't understand his cry.
15:27
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, it's something that happens with me when we at that age.
15:31
[SPEAKER_03]: Sorry.
15:31
[SPEAKER_04]: We got married.
15:32
[SPEAKER_04]: He was twenty five.
15:33
[SPEAKER_04]: I was twenty eight.
15:33
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
15:34
[SPEAKER_04]: So we're young, right?
15:36
[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't know.
15:36
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm three years older than him.
15:37
[SPEAKER_04]: And I had been in serious relationships.
15:40
[SPEAKER_04]: Go in.
15:44
[SPEAKER_04]: He was my third ring.
15:46
[SPEAKER_04]: So I hope it's twice.
15:48
[SPEAKER_04]: Did you say yes to any of those guys or no?
15:50
[SPEAKER_04]: I said yes and then I said no.
15:52
[SPEAKER_04]: The what a first one I didn't.
15:53
[SPEAKER_04]: I said yes because I was like, Oh, that's main to say no.
15:55
[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm saying it.
15:56
[SPEAKER_04]: So do you see the pair live?
15:58
[SPEAKER_04]: So you're dead.
15:59
[SPEAKER_03]: Like he three times.
16:01
[SPEAKER_03]: You was gonna do that three times.
16:06
[SPEAKER_04]: You see, no.
16:06
[SPEAKER_04]: No, we'll go ahead.
16:08
[SPEAKER_04]: The third one worked.
16:09
[SPEAKER_04]: The third one worked.
16:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
16:10
[SPEAKER_04]: So I pray.
16:11
[SPEAKER_04]: I would always make sure that I was asking God, even though the first one I took the ring, get everything back.
16:17
[SPEAKER_04]: The second one, it seemed real.
16:19
[SPEAKER_04]: Preaches kid, you know, church family in music, all of that.
16:24
[SPEAKER_04]: Did you meet his family?
16:25
[SPEAKER_04]: No one's family will.
16:26
[SPEAKER_04]: My sister has the baby by his first cousin.
16:30
[SPEAKER_04]: So our families were intertwined.
16:31
[SPEAKER_04]: And he was a big deal.
16:32
[SPEAKER_04]: And I was a big deal.
16:33
[SPEAKER_04]: So I was like, we planned the wedding.
16:37
[SPEAKER_04]: I had the dress.
16:38
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
16:39
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
16:39
[SPEAKER_04]: My girls had their given money.
16:41
[SPEAKER_04]: We had the venue with the church.
16:43
[SPEAKER_04]: Katerra was paid.
16:45
[SPEAKER_04]: And I said, lower to my doing the right thing.
16:49
[SPEAKER_04]: God was quiet.
16:50
[SPEAKER_04]: He said yes or no, it was just quiet.
16:52
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I didn't get the affirmation.
16:53
[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't get the confirmation.
16:54
[SPEAKER_04]: I wasn't getting it from the people around me that I believed in.
16:58
[SPEAKER_04]: So I fell in love with my favorite scripture, Proverbs, three, five and six, trusting them all with all your heart and lean not to your own understanding.
17:06
[SPEAKER_04]: But in all your ways, acknowledge him and he'll direct your path.
17:09
[SPEAKER_04]: I would remember
17:11
[SPEAKER_04]: the day I knew I couldn't marry him.
17:12
[SPEAKER_04]: And I told him I was actually what happened when you realized it.
17:15
[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, it's not going to work.
17:17
[SPEAKER_00]: More love you more podcast after this.
17:20
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, hate to stop you, change the scenery and the energy.
17:24
[SPEAKER_03]: But you ain't been obedient.
17:25
[SPEAKER_03]: You know how I know.
17:26
[SPEAKER_03]: Because you ain't subscribed.
17:27
[SPEAKER_03]: You ain't left no comment.
17:28
[SPEAKER_03]: You ain't shared this with nobody.
17:30
[SPEAKER_03]: Do it right now.
17:31
[SPEAKER_03]: Now back to the show.
17:34
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, do it.
17:36
[SPEAKER_03]: Go back to the show.
17:38
[SPEAKER_03]: Let her.
17:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Now back to the love you more podcast.
17:41
[SPEAKER_04]: the day I knew I couldn't marry him.
17:43
[SPEAKER_04]: And I told him I was actually, what happened when you realized that this not gonna work?
17:47
[SPEAKER_03]: I had to tell him I can't marry him.
17:49
[SPEAKER_03]: What happened?
17:50
[SPEAKER_03]: Did he say something wrong?
17:51
[SPEAKER_03]: Did his breath thing?
17:52
[SPEAKER_04]: Did he chew with his fork like this?
17:54
[SPEAKER_04]: Two words.
17:55
[SPEAKER_04]: We were talking about music.
17:56
[SPEAKER_04]: And you know, I'm from LA.
17:58
[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm a little more relaxed.
17:59
[SPEAKER_04]: He's from the Midwest.
18:01
[SPEAKER_04]: I dress different.
18:02
[SPEAKER_04]: My vibe is different.
18:03
[SPEAKER_04]: What's okay with me is different.
18:04
[SPEAKER_04]: And he was saying what if you don't live here, we only gonna survive on a two income home.
18:10
[SPEAKER_04]: And I said, you can't take care of me.
18:13
[SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean?
18:14
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, I was like, I'm making money.
18:15
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm singing.
18:17
[SPEAKER_04]: I do this and he was like, you'd have to get a real job and I was like, my singing is a real job.
18:21
[SPEAKER_04]: And so, you know, then he was like, well, you could sing in my dad's church and I was like, yeah, my visions are a little bit.
18:26
[SPEAKER_03]: Bigger.
18:26
[SPEAKER_03]: He just didn't align.
18:27
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so beautiful guys still friends to this day.
18:31
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, still for him.
18:31
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, still friends to this day.
18:32
[SPEAKER_01]: It's life.
18:33
[SPEAKER_04]: You wouldn't know.
18:35
[SPEAKER_03]: No.
18:35
[SPEAKER_03]: You'd have been a fable.
18:37
[SPEAKER_03]: You know her.
18:38
[SPEAKER_03]: You'd have been a fable.
18:42
[SPEAKER_04]: No, no, no.
18:43
[SPEAKER_04]: It was very, so I've always been able to be very mature, even in my breakups.
18:47
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
18:47
[SPEAKER_04]: Even in the breakups, I know how to say I'm sorry.
18:50
[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't work.
18:52
[SPEAKER_04]: One dude played me and I was like, give me some.
18:54
[SPEAKER_04]: You got me.
18:54
[SPEAKER_04]: You won't give me again.
18:56
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
18:57
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not going to deep dive in that.
18:59
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't don't dive in that.
19:00
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, fast forward.
19:01
[SPEAKER_04]: Back to being married.
19:02
[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm married.
19:04
[SPEAKER_04]: We're trying to figure it out.
19:05
[SPEAKER_04]: Nully married.
19:06
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm still on the road.
19:08
[SPEAKER_04]: We don't even have kids yet.
19:10
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
19:11
[SPEAKER_04]: In my mind, it was supposed to be a certain way.
19:13
[SPEAKER_04]: It was supposed to be a certain thing.
19:15
[SPEAKER_04]: And it wasn't that.
19:17
[SPEAKER_04]: Thank God for mom and dad Campbell.
19:19
[SPEAKER_04]: Thank God for people around me that was praying for me.
19:21
[SPEAKER_04]: Even told this really, really good friends to this day.
19:23
[SPEAKER_04]: It was like, yo, man, he loves you.
19:25
[SPEAKER_04]: He just
19:27
[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, man, please, I could be going six months here, but like, some different around here.
19:33
[SPEAKER_04]: He hates when I tell that story.
19:34
[SPEAKER_04]: He really does.
19:36
[SPEAKER_04]: But it's true.
19:36
[SPEAKER_04]: I love you, babe, though.
19:37
[SPEAKER_04]: We good.
19:37
[SPEAKER_04]: Twenty-three years of fine.
19:38
[SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, you don't know.
19:42
[SPEAKER_04]: You don't know how to be, so I'm real.
19:45
[SPEAKER_04]: That's what I felt.
19:49
[SPEAKER_04]: That's what I felt.
19:50
[SPEAKER_04]: Like if you could come home and go play a video game, you know you got a whole wife upstairs and she too and you ain't gonna come say hi.
19:57
[SPEAKER_04]: But he wanted to play his video game.
19:58
[SPEAKER_04]: That was his normal.
19:59
[SPEAKER_04]: Come from home from the studio.
20:02
[SPEAKER_04]: And getting married is merging your normals.
20:04
[SPEAKER_04]: What you would usually do, what he would usually do.
20:07
[SPEAKER_04]: Most times women have this big.
20:08
[SPEAKER_04]: We're going to be this and guys don't really have that.
20:11
[SPEAKER_04]: So they go on living a life right y'all have to learn how to be a married couple together.
20:15
[SPEAKER_04]: What does that look like?
20:16
[SPEAKER_04]: How does that feel?
20:17
[SPEAKER_04]: I was used to a lot of family.
20:18
[SPEAKER_04]: So I was always having my family over.
20:20
[SPEAKER_04]: And I know he was sick of it.
20:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
20:22
[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm super churchy one day.
20:23
[SPEAKER_04]: He came home and I decided to bless the house, but I didn't tell him so he came in.
20:27
[SPEAKER_04]: It was church praying people all over the place.
20:30
[SPEAKER_04]: Bless all your all over.
20:31
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
20:32
[SPEAKER_04]: He was like, someone play my video game.
20:36
[SPEAKER_04]: Walk around in my drawers.
20:38
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
20:39
[SPEAKER_04]: So so I had to learn.
20:40
[SPEAKER_04]: He had to learn.
20:41
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
20:42
[SPEAKER_04]: Luckily for us, we stuck together because the last message.
20:47
[SPEAKER_04]: that my dad told me, he said, the reason it was three times is because I kept trying to figure it out.
20:53
[SPEAKER_04]: I kept trying to make it work.
20:54
[SPEAKER_04]: He said, I didn't, he was like for some reason, me and your mom, our communication didn't work, he said, but I love her.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And she loved me.
21:03
[SPEAKER_04]: And I kept coming back because my family was what I wanted.
21:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
21:06
[SPEAKER_04]: He was like, so I always want you to know that.
21:07
[SPEAKER_04]: He called me plum.
21:08
[SPEAKER_04]: He was like, plum.
21:08
[SPEAKER_04]: I always want you to know that plum.
21:10
[SPEAKER_04]: Be good to your husband.
21:11
[SPEAKER_04]: He would tell me and Tina that be good to your husband.
21:14
[SPEAKER_04]: It's going to be tough.
21:15
[SPEAKER_04]: But be good to your husband.
21:17
[SPEAKER_04]: He was always very clear that my mom was good to him and she honored him.
21:22
[SPEAKER_04]: When every day we're together, you could feel their sparks.
21:24
[SPEAKER_04]: You could feel there and you know, touching each other, they did mind public displays of affection and everybody knew that about Tommy and Eddie.
21:31
[SPEAKER_04]: And even in the end of his life, when he had married somebody else at the funeral, it was still about Tommy and Eddie.
21:36
[SPEAKER_04]: Everybody that got up talked about
21:38
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, because Tommy and Eddie this and they prayed for us and they were a great example and they poured into our lives and they encouraged us and so knowing that the diversity of their life but still that being the story what I took from that is you can go through tragedy and all those issues and still serve God and God will carry you through.
21:56
[SPEAKER_04]: It's not nowhere in a newer day and time and people like I'm gonna take a whole month off and I'm gonna do that and I'm adjusting to that mindset but I was raised to know and understand and truly believe and have been
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[SPEAKER_04]: an example of God carrying you through.
22:11
[SPEAKER_04]: Most of my most traumatic times, I was either on tour or with a camera in my face.
22:16
[SPEAKER_04]: Jesus, having babies, learning somebody going fire me, you know, all kinds just a camera in my face.
22:23
[SPEAKER_04]: Smaller voices.
22:27
[SPEAKER_03]: Can't give up on my cry for it.
22:30
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, come on.
22:31
[SPEAKER_03]: Did y'all just blow that little bit right there?
22:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
22:38
[SPEAKER_03]: I want to go to your voice, but I do want to stick right here.
22:41
[SPEAKER_03]: So you turned out well.
22:43
[SPEAKER_03]: Tina turned out well.
22:44
[SPEAKER_03]: Of course there were some different things that were aired out that she chose to really tackle it on.
22:47
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought that was beautiful.
22:49
[SPEAKER_03]: Whether any like in the family that anybody else have some different effects of divorce three times because you were solid in the word of God.
22:56
[SPEAKER_03]: But yes.
22:57
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you see any of the residue or that decision with some of your other siblings?
23:01
[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.
23:02
[SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely.
23:03
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
23:03
[SPEAKER_04]: A lot of like, yeah, marriage.
23:06
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm cool.
23:07
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
23:07
[SPEAKER_04]: He can't make up his mind, which I don't figure out.
23:09
[SPEAKER_04]: And then I was supposed to just sit here and just be a good wife and wait to come back.
23:12
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm just supposed to pray and everything going to be fine.
23:14
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's kind of like, I'm not going to be like, I'm not doing it.
23:16
[SPEAKER_04]: You're going to act right day one or you're done.
23:18
[SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean?
23:19
[SPEAKER_04]: It's a real short real short real.
23:21
[SPEAKER_04]: I like that robot for me.
23:22
[SPEAKER_04]: That was really.
23:23
[SPEAKER_04]: That was me for a season.
23:24
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
23:24
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah, call my business manager.
23:26
[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, how much money do I have by myself?
23:27
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
23:28
[SPEAKER_04]: I'll give him.
23:29
[SPEAKER_04]: I'll give him the BMW back here.
23:30
[SPEAKER_04]: Just bought me a BMW for my third year.
23:34
[SPEAKER_04]: So, third year, we only been married two, three years.
23:35
[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, yeah, I'll give him this bag.
23:37
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
23:37
[SPEAKER_04]: He can you ahead his house.
23:38
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
23:38
[SPEAKER_04]: I can get a condo.
23:39
[SPEAKER_04]: I can move over here.
23:40
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
23:40
[SPEAKER_04]: We can still marry Mary.
23:41
[SPEAKER_04]: I can meet you with the studio as far as you move on.
23:43
[SPEAKER_04]: Move.
23:43
[SPEAKER_04]: We good.
23:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
23:45
[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, let's go.
23:46
[SPEAKER_04]: And I would say, I cried really good for about a week, maybe two.
23:50
[SPEAKER_04]: And then that's it.
23:50
[SPEAKER_03]: Eddie's daughter.
23:51
[SPEAKER_03]: I tell you that much.
23:52
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
23:53
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
23:53
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I just never seen that.
23:55
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I know it was in there because of where you geographically, where you from.
23:58
[SPEAKER_03]: I live in LA.
23:59
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I used to buy my week in the Inglewood.
24:01
[SPEAKER_03]: There's been violence.
24:02
[SPEAKER_03]: And there's no one that you from there.
24:04
[SPEAKER_03]: I did.
24:04
[SPEAKER_04]: I never thought we needed.
24:06
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's good because you were in church.
24:07
[SPEAKER_03]: I was not in church.
24:08
[SPEAKER_03]: I was with DJ Kuikki in the rest of the guys.
24:10
[SPEAKER_03]: I was the runner guy.
24:11
[SPEAKER_03]: So I was real good.
24:13
[SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, I was like, I really wanted to really hone in on that because now as we fast forward, it's like now it just seems like God is reconciled so much.
24:26
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I even seen in one interview and not honing on different things that happened in your relationship, but there was a profound statement that came out of it.
24:34
[SPEAKER_03]: You were with Timberhall and you talked a little bit about wounds on faithfulness.
24:40
[SPEAKER_03]: And it was some words that stuck out to me and I said, that is the way that a woman that's supposed to love a man.
24:45
[SPEAKER_03]: You said he made a bad decision.
24:49
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, he wasn't a bad guy.
24:50
[SPEAKER_03]: He was a good guy who made a bad decision.
24:53
[SPEAKER_03]: And I was like,
24:55
[SPEAKER_04]: All right, Jesus.
24:56
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
24:57
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
24:57
[SPEAKER_04]: I said he's not a mistake.
24:58
[SPEAKER_04]: He made a mistake or it was not a mistake.
25:01
[SPEAKER_04]: He made a mistake.
25:02
[SPEAKER_03]: So, so for a woman of your stature, I mean, you know, you know, you, you know, you married to me, you, your name was Mary, and you could pretty much have anything that you wanted at the time you have your money.
25:12
[SPEAKER_03]: You have your cars.
25:13
[SPEAKER_03]: You have your status.
25:14
[SPEAKER_03]: You probably can't go nowhere without some guy with brute arms smell like hey, what's up girl?
25:19
[SPEAKER_03]: You know whatever like what like how did you mature into to that version?
25:24
[SPEAKER_03]: Not that I understand who Eddie is not that understanding that you have a quick fuse of conversation and you could say what you want how did you choose to take on that trajectory instead of just choosing to say
25:35
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I don't have to do with none of that.
25:37
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't care if I'm there for thirty days and thirty nights, fifty years.
25:40
[SPEAKER_03]: You never supposed to.
25:42
[SPEAKER_03]: How did you how did you not go to the pride and decide to live in the humility?
25:46
[SPEAKER_03]: What was that process?
25:47
[SPEAKER_04]: Because ego means EGO E's got out.
25:50
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
25:51
[SPEAKER_04]: If I E's got out of this part.
25:53
[SPEAKER_04]: And welcome into the next part, I'm off.
25:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
25:57
[SPEAKER_04]: And I mean, and I truly believe God, I know a new that that God put us together.
26:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
26:05
[SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean?
26:05
[SPEAKER_04]: And if I believe that God put us together, then even when it gets rocky, God is the one that holds us together.
26:11
[SPEAKER_04]: If I lean into my heart and my pain and let that override the purpose that I believe that is worn in Erica and the campals and all that we do, I miss it because I become a little selfish and self-centered.
26:26
[SPEAKER_04]: It is very easy.
26:27
[SPEAKER_04]: to get into your ego for men and for women because you like what I am well a marriage was never about me as an individual in the first place so when you get to the difficult point if you make it about you you're always going to make something that serves you and not the marriage um and so really was it was all about trusting God and I remember saying something to him that he
26:50
[SPEAKER_04]: honored and made big in our lives.
26:52
[SPEAKER_04]: And I said, if you could love me back to you, then we can do this.
26:55
[SPEAKER_04]: Come on, love me back.
26:56
[SPEAKER_04]: Love me back to you.
26:57
[SPEAKER_04]: And he said, what does that mean?
26:58
[SPEAKER_04]: I said, I don't know because I didn't tell you how to fall in love with me.
27:01
[SPEAKER_04]: You just did it.
27:01
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't give you a, what do you, what do you do to make you come up back to?
27:06
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, like, what was some of the thing?
27:07
[SPEAKER_03]: Because this is a do right now.
27:08
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, this is what I understood.
27:10
[SPEAKER_03]: And this is no disrespect to anything that, you know, my former person or anything.
27:14
[SPEAKER_03]: But it's like, God now puts me in this position where there are so many men who are in a
27:19
[SPEAKER_03]: of divorce or separation of breakup and they call me almost like so how did you and what were you thinking to this and I was like well let me just hear like how you feel about it and I hear me and they just like man she's a part of my vision and I just love her so much man and and you know I listen I don't even know what to do and I was just like
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[SPEAKER_03]: You need to go home, Jeff.
27:36
[SPEAKER_03]: You love her.
27:37
[SPEAKER_03]: You love her.
27:37
[SPEAKER_01]: You love her.
27:37
[SPEAKER_03]: You love her.
27:38
[SPEAKER_03]: You love her.
27:38
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, let's run that plate.
27:39
[SPEAKER_03]: And then I meet other men.
27:40
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just like, man, you know, it was like this, this and this.
27:43
[SPEAKER_03]: And I was just like, well, how long has it been?
27:45
[SPEAKER_03]: And I can kind of having so many men to come to me now.
27:48
[SPEAKER_03]: And you know who you are and going to put your own blast, prejudices.
27:51
[SPEAKER_03]: But I know now what it looks like when a man is truly in love.
27:55
[SPEAKER_03]: She is a part of his fabric.
27:56
[SPEAKER_03]: She, he, he like, did I put no one for the city?
27:59
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, let me say this.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I love.
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[SPEAKER_04]: men who go to men.
28:03
[SPEAKER_04]: I love men who go to their circle, their village to strengthen them with them wisdom on how to walk through and how to get through.
28:10
[SPEAKER_04]: And I believe I definitely know that that was part of the way that we were able to heal.
28:15
[SPEAKER_04]: It was the circle is the people around us.
28:17
[SPEAKER_04]: But here's what I believe and here's where I struggle.
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[SPEAKER_04]: with the decision that people choose to make.
28:24
[SPEAKER_04]: If you have stood before God and you made these promises and you made these commitments and you've been a God couple and God can and you're telling everything body and he can put the pieces of your life back together, except this.
28:37
[SPEAKER_04]: I just have a problem with that.
28:38
[SPEAKER_04]: And so many preachers and people who they are people of faith and you live your life trying to compel men to come to God because of what he is able to do, the miraculous, the impossible.
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[SPEAKER_04]: There's nothing too hard for him.
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[SPEAKER_04]: except for this.
28:52
[SPEAKER_04]: He can't redeem this.
28:52
[SPEAKER_04]: He can't fix this.
28:54
[SPEAKER_04]: So I just felt like I would be a hypocrite if I operated in that space.
28:59
[SPEAKER_04]: And I knew he loved me.
29:01
[SPEAKER_04]: And I knew that I loved him.
29:03
[SPEAKER_04]: And I recognized what I saw in him.
29:09
[SPEAKER_04]: And because I believe in being honest and being real, he asked me if I could come home to submit some more time with him.
29:18
[SPEAKER_04]: And I was like,
29:19
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm on the road, we make it money, every single night living life and live.
29:23
[SPEAKER_03]: I would have to reflect.
29:25
[SPEAKER_04]: He asked me to come home and I said no.
29:28
[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, you're going to hand walk me into this career.
29:31
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, now you want it to see that Eddie mouth.
29:35
[SPEAKER_03]: Don't do that.
29:37
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what it all made me want to talk to Eddie because I can get a better understanding because daughters love their dad.
29:43
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but you know, but I had to attitude with my dad a lot of years though a lot.
29:47
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you got that.
29:48
[SPEAKER_04]: I remember when he, um, you know, he was talking to some lady.
29:52
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know what she was.
29:53
[SPEAKER_04]: She brought it to church and I wasn't.
29:56
[SPEAKER_04]: Very nice to her.
29:57
[SPEAKER_03]: I see that.
29:57
[SPEAKER_03]: I see that.
29:58
[SPEAKER_03]: I see eyebrows went down.
29:59
[SPEAKER_03]: You seen it in your shut up.
30:01
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but I ask God to forgive me because I, you know, I want to make it to heaven for real.
30:04
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't want to get up there and I go to hell on the technicality.
30:06
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
30:07
[SPEAKER_04]: Just because he was made of you to show the level Jesus.
30:09
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
30:09
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, if you told me what I'm supposed to do, if you put it in your word and because culture says one thing, I make a decision and God, you have to understand.
30:17
[SPEAKER_04]: But it's twenty twenty three.
30:18
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
30:19
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm like, I'm like, I'm just when I just want to stand before you and I want my heart.
30:23
[SPEAKER_04]: You are with my hands clean.
30:25
[SPEAKER_04]: So my my decisions and how I treat people and how I do that.
30:29
[SPEAKER_04]: So honoring my father, even though having my mom was going through and you know, the different things that I've faced in life, even having a manager who's suing me and has our name.
30:39
[SPEAKER_04]: I still was like, I was still going to get this right.
30:42
[SPEAKER_04]: And I become friends with people who technically should be your in your mind.
30:48
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm gonna learn how to do that.
30:50
[SPEAKER_03]: Like I'm so thankful that you said that, but Eric, I do got to ask you this because I want to go back to like honoring God and doing that.
30:56
[SPEAKER_03]: I want to go back to that second proposal.
30:58
[SPEAKER_03]: with that guy who you went all the way, you went all the way through, you got your dress, you got what the family you did this.
31:06
[SPEAKER_03]: But you had, you had the spiritual upbringing, right?
31:10
[SPEAKER_03]: So no, like let me lock you in God because he's not, I'm not hearing anything from the right side or the left side.
31:17
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's hypothetically say that you chose that decision.
31:22
[SPEAKER_03]: But all the signs showed you that you weren't supposed to.
31:26
[SPEAKER_03]: And you live in out your faith, but deep down on the inside, you have their root of you hearing nothing from God.
31:34
[SPEAKER_03]: But all the signs are saying, this is not what you're supposed to do.
31:38
[SPEAKER_03]: Does Erica live out the truth of she heard and felt the unsettling or does she make a strong decision from herself because it wasn't supposed to happen in the first place?
31:49
[SPEAKER_04]: So I have to acknowledge the village around me at that time.
31:53
[SPEAKER_04]: My usual process was go to everybody and ask them what they think.
31:56
[SPEAKER_04]: The other times, and that was my youth pastor.
31:58
[SPEAKER_04]: I was a Johnny, what you think.
32:00
[SPEAKER_04]: Then I would go to my mom, and then I would go to my aunt Theresa, who was my first lady, right?
32:04
[SPEAKER_04]: And I would go to Sister Kennedy.
32:05
[SPEAKER_04]: She was the prayer warrior.
32:06
[SPEAKER_04]: I would talk to everybody.
32:07
[SPEAKER_04]: Nobody would say Eric and Mary him, but they wouldn't say, don't Mary him either.
32:11
[SPEAKER_04]: They would say honey, pray about it.
32:13
[SPEAKER_04]: So the closer I got, I think it was somewhere maybe around
32:16
[SPEAKER_04]: because I called it off maybe too much before.
32:18
[SPEAKER_04]: I was supposed to get married in August.
32:20
[SPEAKER_04]: It was about June and I was out there and I was visiting him and my uncle called.
32:26
[SPEAKER_04]: He said, I just want to know what's the hurry.
32:28
[SPEAKER_04]: He said, just take your time.
32:30
[SPEAKER_04]: He said, what's the hurry?
32:32
[SPEAKER_04]: He said, if you love him and he love you, just take some more time.
32:34
[SPEAKER_04]: Just spend some time with the Lord.
32:36
[SPEAKER_04]: Just fast and pray and see what the Lord tells you.
32:39
[SPEAKER_04]: And when he said that I knew what he was saying, what I was saying it because I already was a little
32:46
[SPEAKER_04]: unsettled because everything about my life and who I was would have changed not just because I was marrying him but moving just what it just wasn't it wasn't what God was calling for in my life and you have to love and trust God like we trust our fear more than we trust our faith.
33:02
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you know, fear will tell you don't do what you believe it at the first one God will tell you to do something you like
33:06
[SPEAKER_04]: Say it again, Lord.
33:08
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
33:08
[SPEAKER_04]: Speak and say it in Spanish, Jesus.
33:10
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
33:10
[SPEAKER_04]: Give me another sign.
33:11
[SPEAKER_04]: Put it in the clouds.
33:12
[SPEAKER_04]: Let it pop up on in and it.
33:14
[SPEAKER_04]: That's some mysterious message.
33:15
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, it's like we, like we trust God, but then we don't.
33:19
[SPEAKER_04]: He tells us to do stuff when we're like, I can't do that.
33:22
[SPEAKER_03]: But I'm glad you got obedience in the second because I know so many people that will take on the pressure of buying the dress.
33:31
[SPEAKER_03]: getting everybody excited.
33:33
[SPEAKER_03]: Here in that same group like literally like but it's better than divorce.
33:38
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I was like like that temporary embarrassment did not cause you to pay them having a child with a person by houses getting rich together having to split all this stuff together.
33:48
[SPEAKER_03]: And so I think that's a beautiful thing that really shows the character of you, your mother and your father.
33:54
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I was trying to go to New York after that.
33:56
[SPEAKER_04]: My aunt lives in Rome, New York and I was like, hey mom, just go.
33:59
[SPEAKER_04]: wrong.
33:59
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to go hang out with a barber.
34:01
[SPEAKER_04]: She was like, no, you're not.
34:02
[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, yeah, you know, I'm just going to go there for a while.
34:05
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, as she said, baby, you can live anything down.
34:10
[SPEAKER_04]: You just keep living.
34:11
[SPEAKER_03]: That's all you got to do.
34:12
[SPEAKER_04]: You said you can live anything.
34:13
[SPEAKER_04]: She just keep keep coming to church.
34:15
[SPEAKER_04]: You ain't got to disappear.
34:16
[SPEAKER_04]: You got to have.
34:16
[SPEAKER_04]: They got something to yours is just yours is just front center right now.
34:21
[SPEAKER_04]: They could just you can live and so I just kept coming to church.
34:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
34:24
[SPEAKER_04]: One of the good things about going through breakup, you lose a lot of weight, so I was really cute coming back to church.
34:29
[SPEAKER_04]: And in the first fiance, the ex fiance was the organist for the chart at the time.
34:33
[SPEAKER_04]: So then he tried to come back with his ring.
34:34
[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, God still said no.
34:36
[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
34:57
[SPEAKER_03]: You know our relationships start out beautiful.
35:00
[SPEAKER_03]: The love is so intense in the beginning until life happens.
35:07
[SPEAKER_03]: No matter how disciplined you are, temptation is everywhere.
35:12
[SPEAKER_03]: And we all have to fight with our internal monsters.
35:15
[SPEAKER_03]: And sometimes we fall into the trap.
35:19
[SPEAKER_03]: And we hurt the ones we say we love the most.
35:22
[SPEAKER_03]: As you get older, love one's pass away.
35:26
[SPEAKER_03]: and you left a little life with a void that you never really anticipated.
35:31
[SPEAKER_03]: For some reason, people never talk about the parts of you that die when you love one leaves the earth.
35:38
[SPEAKER_03]: It's so easy to lose who you are in the midst of all it is.
35:43
[SPEAKER_03]: I lost myself because I forgot to love myself.
35:48
[SPEAKER_03]: I like to take you on a journey and hopes that you can learn how to love you.
35:53
[SPEAKER_03]: more.
36:00
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, it's gonna be a little bit about the two.
36:03
[SPEAKER_03]: It's gonna be a number four guy.
36:05
[SPEAKER_04]: No, it wasn't number four.
36:07
[SPEAKER_04]: Hey, so I mean, I wanted to get there.
36:09
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm with that's what she said.
36:11
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's a black man, too.
36:13
[SPEAKER_03]: I said in the middle.
36:13
[SPEAKER_03]: He said.
36:14
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, she could have told that.
36:17
[SPEAKER_04]: I go here.
36:18
[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm we're singing.
36:20
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm singing background for Brandy.
36:21
[SPEAKER_04]: We are in Hawaii.
36:23
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
36:25
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
36:25
[SPEAKER_04]: Same background for her and uh, teen to sing for Kenny Latamorf, saying for Brian McKnight, we both sang for Eric Beney.
36:31
[SPEAKER_04]: So we're in Hawaii and me and Warner hanging out on the beach.
36:35
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm chart you saw on Hanoa Bay, the suit on a headloat school.
36:39
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
36:41
[SPEAKER_04]: But I have to hear.
36:43
[SPEAKER_04]: Because you don't charge.
36:44
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm safe.
36:44
[SPEAKER_04]: I was still cold.
36:45
[SPEAKER_04]: You can't put a score on this green for me.
36:47
[SPEAKER_04]: That's so nice.
36:49
[SPEAKER_04]: A skirt, a skirt in shorts.
36:51
[SPEAKER_04]: So you had a skirt, but it's a shorts, but it's a skirt.
36:55
[SPEAKER_04]: That's what your girls wear on the beach when you're really safe.
36:58
[SPEAKER_04]: These, let's listen.
36:59
[SPEAKER_04]: Those shirts girls now.
37:01
[SPEAKER_04]: They were thongs and bend over in front of the world.
37:03
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't, I don't get it.
37:04
[SPEAKER_04]: They all prophesied and show you.
37:05
[SPEAKER_04]: You get it behind.
37:06
[SPEAKER_04]: I will.
37:06
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
37:07
[SPEAKER_04]: Different subjects.
37:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
37:08
[SPEAKER_04]: All right.
37:09
[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, we're at the beach and I get it.
37:11
[SPEAKER_04]: This how long ago it was.
37:12
[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, my pager.
37:13
[SPEAKER_04]: I got a beach.
37:14
[SPEAKER_04]: I got a beep.
37:16
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, from number two.
37:17
[SPEAKER_04]: That is so weird.
37:18
[SPEAKER_03]: It was on beat.
37:20
[SPEAKER_04]: It was on it might have vibrating even.
37:21
[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, I'm going to make a call.
37:22
[SPEAKER_04]: So I went back and I made the car.
37:24
[SPEAKER_04]: It was like, where you was like, I mean, Hawaii.
37:26
[SPEAKER_04]: He was like, Oh, you, what that dude, Lauren, I said, Warren.
37:29
[SPEAKER_04]: He was all in.
37:30
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he was being funny.
37:31
[SPEAKER_04]: He was like, so you really like this guy say, yeah, too.
37:33
[SPEAKER_04]: He's like, you really in Hawaii.
37:35
[SPEAKER_04]: I said, excuse me, sir.
37:36
[SPEAKER_04]: Where are we?
37:37
[SPEAKER_04]: He was like, how do Lulu?
37:38
[SPEAKER_04]: He was like, oh, okay.
37:40
[SPEAKER_04]: And then he got a little little self esteem as well.
37:41
[SPEAKER_04]: He was like, oh, I was, I talked to you later.
37:44
[SPEAKER_04]: You can talk to her no more.
37:46
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, we talk a good.
37:47
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, like I said, I said, I'll stay connected.
37:50
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, we were.
37:51
[SPEAKER_03]: That's so dope.
37:53
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think I met this E like that.
37:55
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
37:56
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, people don't know that.
37:57
[SPEAKER_03]: That's really cool.
37:57
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, you know, the one thing that I love.
37:59
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's so beautiful when you see humanity and Christianity take this beautiful collide, you know, because I think it's so beautiful.
38:06
[SPEAKER_03]: And I got to pull this part out.
38:09
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm stuck on the fact that you made a strong decision for yourself and faced embarrassment to get to the right thing.
38:15
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
38:15
[SPEAKER_03]: Because what I'm noticing now is when I'm speaking to me, I don't know why this plethora of men are now coming.
38:21
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, like, God was already giving dude signs and women signs, like, hey, this is what I'm what you supposed to do.
38:26
[SPEAKER_03]: But I mean, I already have bought the ring of this ride ride ride ride ride ride ride.
38:30
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, as my, I will be honest with you and, and, you know, I don't think I've shared this, but I remember the day that I was about to get married.
38:36
[SPEAKER_03]: And I was living in Los Angeles at the time and I would had a deal with one of brothers.
38:42
[SPEAKER_03]: It was a very crazy deal.
38:44
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I'm drinking a smoke in a little bit too much and and like literally I go to church and I'm like
38:51
[SPEAKER_03]: And we need to go to church.
38:52
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, you know, we just getting too high.
38:54
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, you know, on California, it's like, you want some water, you want some wine, you want some weed.
38:58
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, it ain't even the bad thing.
39:00
[SPEAKER_03]: It don't smell bad.
39:01
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, man, this is like the right thing to do.
39:03
[SPEAKER_03]: And I just realized I needed to go to church.
39:06
[SPEAKER_03]: I ended up going.
39:07
[SPEAKER_03]: to a church and I got more than I bargained for.
39:10
[SPEAKER_03]: And I just got really, really gun call.
39:12
[SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, bro, bro, I gotta get everything get my life right.
39:17
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I got to, yeah, you know what I'm saying?
39:19
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm so Jesus at this point.
39:20
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
39:20
[SPEAKER_03]: One of the brothers want me to say anybody down.
39:22
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, well, I'm not laying bodies down anymore.
39:24
[SPEAKER_03]: I want to marry somebody.
39:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
39:27
[SPEAKER_03]: And it just so happened that you know, you find this beautiful woman who's beautiful in, you know, in that moment.
39:31
[SPEAKER_03]: And I really divorced myself from pretty Willie.
39:34
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, pretty Willie had hurt me so much that I just wanted to live a normal life.
39:39
[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, I am done with that.
39:40
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I'm so tired of it.
39:42
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm tired of pretending to be something like I'm tired of the disappointments that come with it.
39:47
[SPEAKER_03]: And she offered normality to me in that time.
39:50
[SPEAKER_03]: But after I healed, I was like, man, I actually really liked this dude.
39:54
[SPEAKER_03]: Like that dude is a part of me too, and then trying to introduce this guy to a person who never had met.
39:59
[SPEAKER_04]: But I think as we evolve and become who will be coming, we have to be okay with the transitions of our life.
40:05
[SPEAKER_04]: Like who I was at twenty is not who I was at thirty or forty or even fifty.
40:11
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, it's a whole different woman.
40:13
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think the evolution of me and more, the evolution of our love, our ministry, our music,
40:19
[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, it's been fantastic.
40:22
[SPEAKER_03]: You've gone for real too.
40:23
[SPEAKER_03]: I like it.
40:25
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, man.
40:25
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
40:26
[SPEAKER_04]: We were just on the phone the other day just talking about nothing and everything all at the same time for about forty five minutes.
40:32
[SPEAKER_04]: And I had to go to bed because I had to get up to do the radio show and he had to add it to that I had to get off the phone.
40:37
[SPEAKER_04]: Like he kept trying to talk.
40:39
[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, babe.
40:40
[SPEAKER_04]: It was so cute and so sweet and I just I love.
40:41
[SPEAKER_04]: I love those moments and then when I woke up the next morning.
40:53
[SPEAKER_04]: When I woke up the next morning, I called him early and he was still sleepy.
40:56
[SPEAKER_04]: I said, now how that feel?
40:57
[SPEAKER_04]: You see that how that feel?
40:58
[SPEAKER_04]: And he cracked up left.
41:00
[SPEAKER_04]: I said, see, now when I'm sleepy, I'm weaky.
41:02
[SPEAKER_04]: We're here for the rest of our lives.
41:04
[SPEAKER_04]: I got you.
41:04
[SPEAKER_04]: You got me, let's, let's give each other a grace when we sleep.
41:08
[SPEAKER_03]: How, how, how, how supportive was he for this new version of the artist tree that you have?
41:14
[SPEAKER_03]: Because your voice now, nine saying that you won't call.
41:17
[SPEAKER_03]: You really did good.
41:19
[SPEAKER_03]: But you know, it wouldn't be strong with ideas today.
41:21
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
41:21
[SPEAKER_03]: Like now I'm like, Oh, she doing this at a drop of a dime.
41:24
[SPEAKER_03]: Like for me, it's three elements that now come in.
41:26
[SPEAKER_03]: Of course, I know, and I think you've always had that gives work without repentance.
41:30
[SPEAKER_03]: You're going to do what you have to do.
41:31
[SPEAKER_03]: But now it's like powerful and confident.
41:34
[SPEAKER_03]: Like now it's like this whole holy Trinity of voices.
41:37
[SPEAKER_03]: like how how much he did he play a role in.
41:41
[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.
41:42
[SPEAKER_03]: Hunker and down.
41:43
[SPEAKER_03]: He speaks certain things and you said, Grin, you the colors thing ever.
41:46
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, like, I was a different than that.
41:49
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, was he Joe Jackson?
41:50
[SPEAKER_04]: He was that was he Joe Jackson?
41:53
[SPEAKER_04]: He would say because you're naturally good.
41:56
[SPEAKER_04]: You're not practicing.
41:57
[SPEAKER_04]: You're not perfecting your craft.
41:59
[SPEAKER_04]: He said the unfortunate thing that without rehearsal, you can get on stage and people can lose their mind.
42:04
[SPEAKER_04]: Without practice, without toning your voice and doing all the things you get up in a screen, and before you grab the mic.
42:10
[SPEAKER_04]: When you've got to start practicing.
42:13
[SPEAKER_04]: So then when it started, and it was all the things all that wants to church, Mary Mary, and so the career, and Zaya had just been born and ready to show my voice took a beating.
42:22
[SPEAKER_04]: And it was like, I was like, I hope my voice shows up in many days.
42:26
[SPEAKER_04]: It did not.
42:27
[SPEAKER_04]: So I started going to a vocal coach just started being very intentional about my voice shout out to Robert Stephenson.
42:33
[SPEAKER_04]: My vocal coach who has literally transformed my voice.
42:37
[SPEAKER_04]: He did.
42:38
[SPEAKER_04]: And you helped me.
42:39
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you know, no, no, oh, I'm aware.
42:41
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm aware.
42:41
[SPEAKER_03]: You kill.
42:42
[SPEAKER_04]: I would tell them don't post the singing clips, but then at the part of that is a perfection.
42:46
[SPEAKER_04]: If it was one note off, don't post it.
42:49
[SPEAKER_04]: us is crystal man.
42:50
[SPEAKER_04]: But so I mean, and, but, but even now, it's not even that it's perfectly perfect and crystal clear.
42:56
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm just okay.
42:56
[SPEAKER_04]: You'll make a mistake one day.
42:57
[SPEAKER_04]: It's okay.
42:58
[SPEAKER_04]: You're still arrogant Campbell.
42:59
[SPEAKER_04]: No one comes and takes.
43:02
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you, friend.
43:03
[SPEAKER_03]: Don't be old.
43:03
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to take what I'm giving you right now.
43:05
[SPEAKER_04]: I never heard your voice like this.
43:07
[SPEAKER_04]: I, you know, I have done the work.
43:08
[SPEAKER_04]: I heard Warren say something that I had never heard him say and he was in interview and he said hers is my favorite voice.
43:15
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm sure that's for a lot of reasons.
43:16
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, I'm sure there's a lot of reasons.
43:17
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, I'm sure there's a lot of reasons.
43:18
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I'm sure there's a lot of reasons.
43:19
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I'm sure there's a lot of reasons.
43:20
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I'm sure there's a lot of reasons.
43:21
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I'm sure there's a lot of reasons.
43:22
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I'm sure there's a lot of reasons.
43:23
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I'm sure there's a lot of reasons.
43:24
[UNKNOWN]: You know, I'm sure there's a lot of reasons.
43:25
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I'm sure there's a lot of reasons.
43:26
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, I'm sure there's a lot of reasons.
43:26
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, I'm sure there's a lot of reasons.
43:28
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, I'm sure there's a lot of reasons.
43:28
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, I'm sure there's a lot of reasons.
43:29
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, I'm sure there's a lot of reasons.
43:30
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, I'm sure there's a lot of reasons.
43:31
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, I'm
43:33
[SPEAKER_04]: one body, and it's our job to take care of it.
43:35
[SPEAKER_04]: You can't go to the lung store and get another pair.
43:37
[SPEAKER_04]: And unfortunately, we treat our body like trash and then just be like, oh, God help me.
43:41
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, God, my kidneys, you know my diabetes, but if you just change your diet and exercise a lot of this will change.
43:47
[SPEAKER_04]: Now, if you've done your part and you still have issues, okay, lower it help me, but lower it help me and you eat a bucket of chicken and spaghetti and pizza and fries with a soda and an ice cream and pie after you get what you get.
44:00
[SPEAKER_03]: You got it.
44:01
[SPEAKER_04]: So when high blood pressure came, it's because I was eating out.
44:03
[SPEAKER_04]: I wanted to eat and I, you know, I naturally have a good build.
44:07
[SPEAKER_04]: So, you know, I could put on a spank and be okay.
44:09
[SPEAKER_04]: But then it starts showing up in other areas.
44:12
[SPEAKER_04]: I remember me and Tina were performing never wave my flag.
44:14
[SPEAKER_04]: Never should have performed that song.
44:16
[SPEAKER_04]: But the dub awards.
44:19
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that wasn't my favorite.
44:21
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, but I was performing that and I had an excruciating headache to where I couldn't see.
44:27
[SPEAKER_04]: And I couldn't, I could barely walk on walk off stage.
44:29
[SPEAKER_04]: I said, take me straight to the hospital.
44:31
[SPEAKER_04]: They took me to the hospital.
44:33
[SPEAKER_04]: The devil was still going on.
44:35
[SPEAKER_04]: And they rushed me and when they took my blood pressure, I think the, the top number was, I don't remember the top number, but the bottom number was two hundred.
44:45
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
44:47
[SPEAKER_04]: And yeah.
44:48
[SPEAKER_04]: And he was on a break of deal.
44:49
[SPEAKER_04]: That's what he said.
44:50
[SPEAKER_04]: He said you are frequently close to a stroke.
44:54
[SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, Oh, well, I had to do the word.
44:55
[SPEAKER_04]: Did you eat?
44:56
[SPEAKER_04]: No, did you drink water?
44:56
[SPEAKER_04]: No.
44:58
[SPEAKER_04]: And so that's when I started making serious changes.
45:02
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, because I was like, I don't want to leave here early, just because I won't take a care of my body.
45:07
[SPEAKER_04]: This, this temple is most important, not the awards, not the stage, not the invitations, not whom affiliated with not the platforms.
45:13
[SPEAKER_04]: That's not the most important.
45:15
[SPEAKER_04]: This temple is the most important.
45:17
[SPEAKER_04]: My mind has to be right.
45:18
[SPEAKER_04]: My spirit and heart have to be right.
45:20
[SPEAKER_04]: It has to be coming from the right place.
45:22
[SPEAKER_04]: And so
45:23
[SPEAKER_04]: that is of utmost importance to me that I am healthy with the lights on or the lights off that I am healthy when everybody's looking or no one's paying attention that I have real moments of joy that are not connected to people's applause.
45:36
[SPEAKER_04]: So when you damage your body to go do something for them,
45:41
[SPEAKER_04]: that you live in for them.
45:42
[SPEAKER_04]: This body is the temple of God.
45:44
[SPEAKER_04]: I honor you by taking care of myself.
45:46
[SPEAKER_04]: So if I'm not well, I should be okay saying, hey guys, I need to take a moment.
45:50
[SPEAKER_04]: But I was like, we may miss something.
45:51
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm gonna miss an opportunity.
45:53
[SPEAKER_04]: And so I changed that.
45:55
[SPEAKER_04]: And I started taking good care of myself.
45:58
[SPEAKER_03]: Did everybody in the home support you in there?
46:00
[SPEAKER_03]: Like that.
46:00
[SPEAKER_03]: That was in person by getting on board with.
46:02
[SPEAKER_03]: That was in person.
46:03
[SPEAKER_03]: If I'm just coming in somebody, the whole house going to be.
46:06
[SPEAKER_03]: Everybody going to be.
46:07
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
46:07
[SPEAKER_03]: I can see that we passed in like more.
46:10
[SPEAKER_03]: But I'm not done.
46:11
[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no.
46:12
[SPEAKER_03]: It's something that praise God.
46:13
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, Lord.
46:14
[SPEAKER_03]: You don't know.
46:15
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't know.
46:16
[SPEAKER_03]: You didn't play.
46:17
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't know.
46:18
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought you like, well, you know the Lord is just my shepherd.
46:21
[SPEAKER_03]: And I said, you know, he was like, but yeah, but if we don't get in line.
46:26
[SPEAKER_04]: So, let's say, the list.
46:28
[SPEAKER_04]: You know what the part of it is when you grow up poor and you know what that's like.
46:31
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't want to go back there.
46:32
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't.
46:33
[SPEAKER_04]: Elva won't to go back there.
46:34
[SPEAKER_04]: So what do I have to do to make sure I don't go back to that?
46:37
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I wanted to take in great care.
46:39
[SPEAKER_03]: I was just about to tell you what you are married to one of the biggest producers.
46:42
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
46:42
[SPEAKER_04]: But other than that, you might just want your own.
46:44
[SPEAKER_03]: Come on, somebody.
46:45
[SPEAKER_03]: You want to contribute to the house.
46:47
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
46:47
[SPEAKER_04]: And I want my girls to see that.
46:49
[SPEAKER_04]: I want them to see me travel, but I want them to see me come home and make a plate for my husband.
46:53
[SPEAKER_03]: Why haven't you sat down knowing that you guys are so free?
46:55
[SPEAKER_03]: Is it the purpose over just the process?
46:57
[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like I have sat down.
46:59
[SPEAKER_03]: No, free.
47:00
[SPEAKER_03]: You know my told you backstage one time, I said, you are the only person.
47:04
[SPEAKER_03]: I know who worked way harder than I work.
47:06
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm a provider at this point, but you has a joy in singing.
47:11
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
47:12
[SPEAKER_03]: I have love.
47:12
[SPEAKER_03]: But you see, right now.
47:14
[SPEAKER_03]: I think you're there.
47:15
[SPEAKER_03]: doing a whole lot more than that.
47:17
[SPEAKER_03]: A K now is just a lot of different place.
47:19
[SPEAKER_03]: But I guess, you know, I mean, coming from poverty, Steve Harvey, he told me because I think he was like, nah, he said, man, listen, he wouldn't let me tell you something.
47:27
[SPEAKER_03]: Of course he says in words that I wouldn't say in front of the first lady.
47:30
[SPEAKER_03]: And then he said, beep, don't, he told me, don't, don't get mad at God when he made your play fool.
47:38
[SPEAKER_03]: When there was a season, you begged them to eat.
47:40
[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.
47:42
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, bro, I'm going to call you.
47:43
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I say it like this.
47:44
[SPEAKER_04]: The blessings of the Lord make it rich and add it to the sorrow.
47:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
47:49
[SPEAKER_04]: Author.
47:49
[SPEAKER_04]: That's not sorrow.
47:51
[SPEAKER_04]: That's the blessings of the Lord.
47:52
[SPEAKER_04]: My family, my church, the radio, the music touring.
47:55
[SPEAKER_04]: Those are the blessings of the Lord.
47:56
[SPEAKER_04]: I love it.
47:57
[SPEAKER_04]: I tell people I wear a lot of hats.
47:58
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't wear them all in the same day.
48:00
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
48:00
[SPEAKER_04]: I look crazy if I had to put them all at the same time.
48:02
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not cooking dinner in all stage at the same time.
48:05
[SPEAKER_04]: So when I'm home, I'm home and I'm not worried about what's happening to my all live fully one thousand percent in the moment.
48:11
[SPEAKER_04]: The only thing that allows me to shift is when my kids call.
48:14
[SPEAKER_04]: I remember when I was doing the deal for the radio show and I'm sitting there with David Canter and all the people all how was that be as a face time.
48:23
[SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, one moment, hi, honey.
48:25
[SPEAKER_04]: You're okay.
48:25
[SPEAKER_04]: You need something.
48:26
[SPEAKER_04]: Every okay.
48:27
[SPEAKER_04]: Mommy, I miss you.
48:28
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
48:29
[SPEAKER_04]: Mommy's going to be home.
48:29
[SPEAKER_04]: I leave, but I'm what and she says you're always coming back.
48:32
[SPEAKER_04]: That's right.
48:33
[SPEAKER_04]: Mommy's going to be home soon.
48:34
[SPEAKER_04]: And so I make sure I make them a priority and that the people that work around me know sometimes the kids will be there.
48:40
[SPEAKER_04]: Sometimes she'll shift a little bit because if they need her, she's there.
48:44
[SPEAKER_04]: And when I'm not there, the village is strong, whether it's my mom, my mother-in-law, my sister, Warren, Warren picking up kids, like Warren is
48:53
[SPEAKER_04]: That man at home putting it down here, man.
48:54
[SPEAKER_04]: Come on, Rubio's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, I know you're in like the bathroom toilet.
48:59
[SPEAKER_04]: We got new toilets.
49:00
[SPEAKER_04]: Come on, dude, I'll fix the banister.
49:02
[SPEAKER_04]: He'd fix it.
49:03
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, no, he got it.
49:04
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, praise this because I don't fix it.
49:05
[SPEAKER_03]: Like nothing has been done.
49:06
[SPEAKER_04]: If you do music and fix and preach, but he did.
49:09
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, when I had wowsy, we had just moved into that house and we didn't have furniture when I came home from having wowsy.
49:14
[SPEAKER_04]: And I was only out of the house, maybe.
49:17
[SPEAKER_04]: a week.
49:18
[SPEAKER_04]: When I came home, we had all the furniture on top to bottom.
49:22
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
49:22
[SPEAKER_03]: He's always done.
49:23
[SPEAKER_03]: Come on, we got to love more.
49:24
[SPEAKER_03]: Come on, let's just show some love to one camera.
49:27
[SPEAKER_03]: We got to do the camera by just so love.
49:29
[SPEAKER_02]: He loves him.
49:29
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, no, I love that.
49:31
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I just want to, I just want to, um, I want to encourage everybody.
49:35
[SPEAKER_03]: I wanted to really show the love because the name of the album is I love you, it is.
49:39
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think sometimes if you can hear the backstory of why a person loves so hard, you know, I do want to thank you when I was in one of the toughest times in my life you reached out and you was like, man, but what does God say?
49:51
[SPEAKER_03]: And I had to really seek the Lord.
49:53
[SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, I do appreciate that, you know, sitting in an olive branch during that particular time, you know, whatever the outcome was, it just kind of let me know at least I'm on somebody mine.
50:03
[SPEAKER_03]: Because sometimes when you're in your darkest place, yeah, it's like it don't really matter to nobody.
50:07
[SPEAKER_03]: Everybody thinks this way, they believe this way.
50:09
[SPEAKER_03]: And the enemy wants you to believe that that's the way that it's always going to be.
50:13
[SPEAKER_03]: So I do appreciate that.
50:14
[SPEAKER_03]: I want everybody listed as out, you know, and I'm going to be honest with you.
50:18
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't really just get excited about many albums.
50:22
[SPEAKER_03]: But man, you put together a really great body of work, like from top to bottom, even the choices that you made in terms of the synchronization of how each song goes into what it is.
50:34
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, while you were going through this body of work, when you was Ryan and he was listening, because I know we listened to them dimmers before they get mixed.
50:41
[SPEAKER_03]: Was you like Ryan thinking to yourself, God, you did it this time?
50:45
[SPEAKER_03]: And like, were you really excited?
50:47
[SPEAKER_03]: Like when you heard her,
50:48
[SPEAKER_04]: messages hit me in the chest first.
50:49
[SPEAKER_04]: So everything isn't about, you know, thank you.
50:53
[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you.
50:53
[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you was literally like, this could have won another way.
50:58
[SPEAKER_04]: My life could have been something else.
51:00
[SPEAKER_04]: I could be somewhere else.
51:01
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, I thank you.
51:03
[SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean?
51:04
[SPEAKER_04]: And then the love you song the same way.
51:06
[SPEAKER_04]: Warren was where I was, you know, we have a studio in the room and he was up working and I was trying to go to sleep.
51:11
[SPEAKER_04]: He's like, I got to ready.
51:13
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
51:14
[SPEAKER_04]: And he was working.
51:14
[SPEAKER_04]: I heard I love you.
51:15
[SPEAKER_04]: I love you.
51:16
[SPEAKER_04]: I love you.
51:17
[SPEAKER_04]: I love you.
51:18
[SPEAKER_04]: And while I was trying to go to sleep, when I heard him singing it, it was warm and it was special.
51:24
[SPEAKER_04]: And so I pulled the curves.
51:25
[SPEAKER_04]: I said, who was that one for?
51:26
[SPEAKER_04]: He said, I don't know.
51:28
[SPEAKER_04]: I said, it's for me.
51:29
[SPEAKER_04]: And I went back to sleep.
51:32
[SPEAKER_04]: But the record was made in this loving environment with a lot of gratitude, but a lot of honesty, recognizing the brokenness, recognizing the valleys.
51:42
[SPEAKER_04]: He brought me out of recognizing the times when I felt less than, not enough.
51:47
[SPEAKER_04]: overwhelmed is this it, you know, because when you come from a group, as big as Mary Mary, and everywhere you go, that's all they ask you, you know, and the back is they don't really want you by yourself, but God told me that you don't have a twin in anything.
52:00
[SPEAKER_04]: It's not like you're not an out to without her.
52:03
[SPEAKER_04]: That was something special that I did and it's not over, but I'm showing you how to stand alone on your own two feet on it, love it.
52:09
[SPEAKER_04]: standing your God, giving authority and do what I call you to do in a beautiful way.
52:14
[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm grateful for Mary Mary.
52:15
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm grateful to be a solo artist.
52:17
[SPEAKER_04]: So it's all coming from it's all growth.
52:19
[SPEAKER_04]: It's record.
52:20
[SPEAKER_04]: Trust in obey, show been good, positive, feel all right.
52:25
[SPEAKER_03]: Come on, they're trusting.
52:26
[SPEAKER_03]: No, that's just not slide over there.
52:28
[SPEAKER_03]: You put it right next to my song, believe in love.
52:31
[SPEAKER_03]: So I couldn't stay too secular too long.
52:34
[SPEAKER_03]: And it was the most angelic voice.
52:38
[SPEAKER_03]: It's one, it's at the end when you say, I'm in and I didn't know it was a press.
52:43
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
52:43
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't know it was a press like the thirteenth time that I listened to.
52:45
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so my friend was a press.
52:48
[SPEAKER_04]: That was the one that I didn't write that one.
52:49
[SPEAKER_04]: That was solely given to us by one of Warren's best friends, Grimico Collins.
52:54
[SPEAKER_04]: And when he gave it to me, it did me that way.
52:57
[SPEAKER_04]: It was like, that was a prayer.
53:00
[SPEAKER_04]: Because how many times do we not trust him?
53:03
[SPEAKER_04]: How many times do we disobey him?
53:05
[SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean?
53:05
[SPEAKER_04]: And we lean in the grace and we lean in the forgiveness.
53:07
[SPEAKER_04]: But my mom would always say, yeah, God can save you from some things.
53:13
[SPEAKER_04]: What if he don't have to save you out of everything?
53:15
[SPEAKER_03]: Man, I'm so tired of being saved up out of everything.
53:17
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what to do.
53:18
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, let me just save you from some things.
53:20
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, Lord.
53:21
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, I could get you out.
53:22
[SPEAKER_04]: Now, redeem you, but sometimes I want you to choose the right way.
53:25
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
53:25
[SPEAKER_04]: Sometimes I want you to choose obedience, even when it's difficult.
53:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
53:29
[SPEAKER_04]: Even when everybody, like, remember that that that tragedy of the families being killed in that church and church people being mad because they chose to forgive, forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors.
53:42
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
53:43
[SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean?
53:44
[SPEAKER_04]: Like he stayed forgiven us.
53:46
[SPEAKER_04]: And we have a problem when it comes to giving other people.
53:49
[SPEAKER_04]: But when we obey God, God's way gets God's results.
53:53
[SPEAKER_04]: And I believe that.
53:54
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'll say that anyway.
53:55
[SPEAKER_03]: God's way is God results.
53:57
[SPEAKER_03]: I should.
53:58
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm really good at teaching you a straight law.
54:00
[SPEAKER_03]: I should.
54:00
[SPEAKER_03]: Because you're not in the water.
54:01
[SPEAKER_03]: Look close out like this.
54:03
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you weren't look close.
54:04
[SPEAKER_03]: Everybody judge you.
54:05
[SPEAKER_03]: You look close.
54:06
[SPEAKER_03]: Erica, I told you we're gonna tell nobody about that.
54:08
[SPEAKER_03]: We talked about that in there.
54:09
[SPEAKER_03]: We did.
54:10
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what I'm sitting down.
54:11
[SPEAKER_03]: He was barking out and started Jesus.
54:14
[SPEAKER_03]: The boys get away with everything.
54:15
[SPEAKER_03]: The girls can't do that.
54:16
[SPEAKER_03]: They can't.
54:17
[SPEAKER_03]: I got your friend, Misty with a press shot.
54:19
[SPEAKER_03]: Praise God.
54:20
[SPEAKER_03]: Misty with Atlanta.
54:22
[SPEAKER_03]: But you know, we're going to find it.
54:28
[SPEAKER_03]: This looking for.
54:29
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, they'd be the find it that before they find it.
54:31
[SPEAKER_03]: This great horse.
54:32
[SPEAKER_03]: You know what?
54:32
[SPEAKER_03]: You always go see me first.
54:33
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what I love about my upbringing.
54:35
[SPEAKER_03]: You always go see me first.
54:37
[SPEAKER_04]: That's what I love about my upbringing.
54:39
[SPEAKER_04]: You see me first.
54:40
[SPEAKER_04]: You don't see my Holy Ghost in my knowing.
54:41
[SPEAKER_04]: Do you see me?
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[SPEAKER_04]: What do I look like in my breast?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Is it something my teeth?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I can be cute.
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[SPEAKER_04]: My heart would say they come in because you're cute.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They don't stay because you say.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Come on.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I like your auntie.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She married to.
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[SPEAKER_04]: She married to my uncle for four hundred thousand years and they love each other.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Listen, new album.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I love you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I believe it's going to be good.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Let me just try to wrap it up and put a ball on this thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, you know, I'm just reminded of Provard's sixteen and nine were literally, um, I think that by just a willing more junior version of course, but it talks about us planning things in our heart, but God, like orders to steps, he gives us the steps.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think what you heard today was a person who understood the plans of our heart that that she had on the inside of her heart, but I just believe by faith that she was smart enough to ask God, what's the next step?
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, many of you, I'll let you sit there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I just believe so many times in our own flesh and even in our own like church, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like we church people, we do what we're supposed to do.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You probably prayed you fast.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The those of you who don't get to it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It really does a body good and a spirit well.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I want you to know that sometimes even in our Christianity, we allow our humanity to make our own personal decisions.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so I'm listening to a woman.
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[SPEAKER_03]: that whenever she got into a fork in the road, she was smart enough to do three things.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She paused, she prayed, and she listened.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She paused, she prayed, and she listened.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She paused, she prayed, and she listened.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's so easy for me to tell you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: what to do, but it's really, really hard for many people to communicate how to do it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I think what I pulled from it was, she paused, she prayed, and she listened.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And just like in progress, sixteen and nine, when the Bible tells us that God orders those steps, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And he puts those steps in place, I think it will be very smart of us to ask God, what's the next step?
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[SPEAKER_03]: What's the next step?
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[SPEAKER_03]: What's the next step in my relationship?
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[SPEAKER_03]: What's the next step in my business?
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[SPEAKER_03]: What's the next step in my next endeavor?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe the big question mark that you've been asking.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Should be, God, what's my next step?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And when he gives you the next step, it's just an important to be obedient, no matter how embarrassing that next step may be.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because we are, we are a no reputation, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like if we surrender our life to Jesus, we realize that our reputation is literally caught up in here, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I just wanna challenge you right now as you listen, we had a really great conversation, but I want you to literally take those three steps.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And as God, he listened to you, God, what's my next step?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I believe he'll give it to you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And the biggest room in the world, I always tell you, is the room for improvement.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Take that next step and watch your life improve.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, Nagna, you do tell somebody about this show.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you, I listen.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I need you to, you don't your text read.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Copy the link, share it with somebody, tell another friend.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Talk about it all in the break room, child.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I need you to do all of that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know why?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because expansion requires communication.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I need you to communicate about this show.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Listen, I beg you, but I'm close to it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, I'm on B, nineteen, nineties, begging you, please.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Come on somebody, share with somebody, communicate with somebody and let them know about the show.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let her.