Latest / Best of Business / Geoff Summers: Remuneration Authority Chair on local councillors seeing bigger pay increases
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- 0:16Speaker 2: Now, despite the state of the economy, there is one
- 0:19Speaker 2: profession that's been benefiting from pretty solid pay rises, and
- 0:22Speaker 2: that's local councilors. The average salary of district and city
- 0:25Speaker 2: councilors went up nine point eight one percent last year,
- 0:29Speaker 2: and the biggest salary increase was at the Western Bay
- 0:31Speaker 2: of Plenty District Council, where the average salary went up
- 0:33Speaker 2: fifty seven percent to just shy of eighty one thousand dollars.
- 0:37Speaker 2: Now the remuneration authority of the guys who set the salaries,
- 0:40Speaker 2: or at least the overall pool, and Jeff Summers is
- 0:42Speaker 2: the chair. He's with us now, Hi, Jeff, Yeah, got
- 0:47Speaker 2: how how did the Western Bay of Plenty Council go
- 0:50Speaker 2: up so much?
- 0:51Speaker 3: Well, they haven't actually, and I don't know where those
- 0:55Speaker 3: figures came from. The I know there's a plenty lob
- 0:59Speaker 3: of political lobby group has been bending figures around, but
- 1:02Speaker 3: we don't know where they got them from. But we
- 1:04Speaker 3: haven't set the Western Bay of Plenty District councilsorries yet.
- 1:09Speaker 3: In fact, that's going to come up at our next meeting.
- 1:13Speaker 3: We set the poll and then as a consultation process
- 1:16Speaker 3: to allow local factors to be brought into the mix,
- 1:20Speaker 3: we asked the local council to put a proposal to
- 1:24Speaker 3: us on how they would allocate that pool, and then
- 1:26Speaker 3: we look at it. I understand their allocation has come
- 1:31Speaker 3: true to us, but we haven't dealt with that yet
- 1:34Speaker 3: and we don't always agree. We have sent them back
- 1:38Speaker 3: on occasions, but I'd be very surprised if its fifty
- 1:44Speaker 3: seven percent. Their poll was one of the larger ones
- 1:48Speaker 3: because after the local government elections, we do a review
- 1:52Speaker 3: of the entire sector, which is really complicated as you
- 1:55Speaker 3: can imagine the seventy six different councils, and they were
- 2:01Speaker 3: one of the bigger ones. Their pool went up about
- 2:03Speaker 3: twenty three percent because their population and expenditure and assets
- 2:07Speaker 3: and so forth all increased, as had the estimated workload
- 2:13Speaker 3: of the council has gone from point five to point six. Now.
- 2:16Speaker 3: They also got from the Local Government Commission Commission last
- 2:21Speaker 3: year to reduce the number of councilors from eleven to nine,
- 2:26Speaker 3: so we've now got nine people doing the work that
- 2:28Speaker 3: eleven people used to do, And most people would say,
- 2:31Speaker 3: if I'm going to be doing more work than what
- 2:35Speaker 3: you know some other people used to do, I want
- 2:38Speaker 3: more money for it. So I would expect that they
- 2:40Speaker 3: would have got a reasonable increase, But you know a
- 2:45Speaker 3: number of councilors got very little. That's the way the
- 2:48Speaker 3: system works.
- 2:49Speaker 2: Hold on, Jeff, can I ask you some questions if
- 2:51Speaker 2: you don't mind. So, is it possible that you've set
- 2:54Speaker 2: the pool for the Western Bay of plenty, which is
- 2:56Speaker 2: seven hundred and thirty odd thousand dollars split between nine
- 2:59Speaker 2: councilors comes out at eighty thousand, eighty one thousand dollars.
- 3:02Speaker 3: Yes, well, yeah, it won't because they don't do it
- 3:07Speaker 3: that way.
- 3:07Speaker 2: But okay, and so if you say yes to their proposal,
- 3:12Speaker 2: then it will be a fifty seven percent pay increase.
- 3:15Speaker 3: No, because all nine of them won't be getting the
- 3:19Speaker 3: same amount.
- 3:19Speaker 2: An average, isn't there will be?
- 3:22Speaker 3: Well, okay, you can work on averages heither, but I'm
- 3:26Speaker 3: not allowed to. I've got to be accurate. The law
- 3:29Speaker 3: requires me to do certain things.
- 3:31Speaker 2: How did you back up their pay that much, though,
- 3:33Speaker 2: is what I'm trying to get to. How did you
- 3:35Speaker 2: make the pool.
- 3:35Speaker 3: Go up that much simply by reference to the entire sector.
- 3:42Speaker 3: Now it is really complicated, and unfortunately that's not useful
- 3:45Speaker 3: for radio. I understand that. But after we did this
- 3:50Speaker 3: system about eight years ago, because nobody had found a
- 3:53Speaker 3: reasonable system for paying local government to that date, there
- 3:57Speaker 3: was an awful lot of work went into it, and
- 3:59Speaker 3: after each local government election we spend months doing this
- 4:04Speaker 3: and some on every there will be one council that
- 4:10Speaker 3: gets lucky because their factors like population and so forthare
- 4:14Speaker 3: will have gone up more than everybody else's, and others
- 4:17Speaker 3: won't have gone up very much at all, and they
- 4:19Speaker 3: won't literally get anything out of it. But you know,
- 4:24Speaker 3: this year, Western Bay of Plenty was one of the
- 4:26Speaker 3: lucky ones. But there were some really good reasons for that.
- 4:31Speaker 3: The population that the councilors look after has increased, Their
- 4:35Speaker 3: operating expenditure has gone up thirty five percent, the assets
- 4:39Speaker 3: they control have gone up twenty six percent. You know,
- 4:42Speaker 3: there are some big responsibilities that councilors whole.
- 4:46Speaker 2: All right, Jeff, thank you for running us through it. Appreciated. Jeff,
- 4:49Speaker 2: your Cicada sound lovely. Jeff Summer's remuneration authority.
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