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M and M EXTRA May 20, 2026 Election trends Favoring Trump/ TX Senate Previews · The M&M Experience

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Speaker 1: Welcome to a meeting of the minds crafted from decades
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Speaker 1: It's Mark Davis and Mike Gallagher. This is eminem Extra.
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Speaker 2: It turns out there is a cure for trump to
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Speaker 2: arrangement syndrome. It's called an election. What a big day yesterday, Wow, Wow,
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Speaker 2: happy happy day after primary day where state's from Georgia
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Speaker 2: to Texas to all and in between. I mean, I
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Speaker 2: think Trump was thirty one to oh yesterday. Welcome.
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Speaker 3: It could have gone his way. They all did. Pardon me,
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Speaker 3: didn't step on you going?
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Speaker 2: That's okay. I was gonna borrow everybody who you are.
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Speaker 2: M and he's the Mark. I'm Mike Gallagher along with
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Speaker 2: Mark Davis, and we are joyfully wined by plenty of
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Speaker 2: people on our YouTube live channel right now, and of course,
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Speaker 2: the M and M Extra podcast seems to be growing
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Speaker 2: by leaps and bounds. I got some good news earlier
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Speaker 2: this morning, Mark that we continue to grow exponentially. I
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Speaker 2: would say that word x. It's actually x x. I
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Speaker 2: always was gonna say exponentially.
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Speaker 3: But it's think of the root of it as an
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Speaker 3: exponent X three three to the third power four to
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Speaker 3: the fifth powerstonia that grows crazy, leaps and bounds. It's
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Speaker 3: an exponent, so it grows exponentially exponentially.
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Speaker 2: I like the see see, mister smarty pants, you'll you'll
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Speaker 2: get all the time we have except for political prognostications.
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Speaker 3: You'll struggle every denunciations. Guy, I will explain the words.
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Speaker 3: But and this is so great because yesterday, twenty four
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Speaker 3: hours ago for anybody live stream wise, here we were
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Speaker 3: in this weird nether world where we had no idea
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Speaker 3: who who Trump is going to endorse. We just knew
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Speaker 3: that he was going to, which is all you needed
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Speaker 3: to dunk on me for thirty minutes.
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Speaker 2: It was glorious. Yeah, but we were struggling with the
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Speaker 2: timing of it because as soon as we ended the
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Speaker 2: live YouTube show he endorsed Paxton and then it was
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Speaker 2: like we were hoping he would have done it during
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Speaker 2: during our show, but it was right after he didn't
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Speaker 2: get the memo. I guess, so we'll got we gotta
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Speaker 2: we gotta just correct him on his timing. But that's
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Speaker 2: a that's a big, big bombshell in the state of Texas.
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Speaker 2: Now you know Texas politics, You're you're, you're the go
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Speaker 2: to for all things Texas. The conventional wisdom, as I
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Speaker 2: keep pointing out to you, is that Paxton can't beat
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Speaker 2: uh As you call him woke Opie James Tallerico. You
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Speaker 2: say that's a bunch of hogwash. Of course he can.
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Speaker 3: Of course he can because everybody people latch onto well,
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Speaker 3: the Corning camp in particular, and those who are Paxton hesitant,
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Speaker 3: latch onto his baggage, both the judicial and moral, which
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Speaker 3: is true the lawsuits and the court case. The court
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Speaker 3: cases have gone away, some of the personal stuff in
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Speaker 3: the not so distant path as not. But I took
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Speaker 3: some calls today on the radio about character, character, character, character,
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Speaker 3: and we all we all care about those things. We
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Speaker 3: would all love for our standard bearers and the people
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Speaker 3: you we vote for to be blemish free. It doesn't
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Speaker 3: always happen. So it ultimately comes down to the character.
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Speaker 3: That counts most for people is do you do what
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Speaker 3: you say you promised to do? Do you maintain your
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Speaker 3: conservative promises? Once you are actually elected. That's the character
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Speaker 3: that actually affects people's lives. And that's why Paxton remains
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Speaker 3: largely impervious to these various personal attacts.
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Speaker 2: You know, the Democrats are really getting excited about tallar Rico,
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Speaker 2: and they're saying, and of course I've heard I've been
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Speaker 2: to this movie before, Oh Texas is going to turn blue.
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Speaker 2: This is this is going to be the year that
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Speaker 2: that a Democrat takes Texas. And I like our chances
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Speaker 2: of you know, they're going to invest in Texas now
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Speaker 2: to try to prop up James Tallerico. I want to
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Speaker 2: play for you, Mark, what President Trump said a couple
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Speaker 2: of hours ago as he was going off to the
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Speaker 2: US Coast Guard Academy in Connecticut the graduation. He was
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Speaker 2: the commencement speaker there. But here's what he said before
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Speaker 2: he got on the plane. Now, I want you to
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Speaker 2: listen carefully to the way he describes James Tallerico, who
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Speaker 2: is going to be I believe Ken Paxton's challenger. Now
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Speaker 2: many are going to say, well, maybe Cornan hangs on,
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Speaker 2: And I want to talk to you about that too
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Speaker 2: in a minute, Mark, So to remind me to ask
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Speaker 2: you about.
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Speaker 3: Not impossible, but we'll cover that first week.
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Speaker 4: Well.
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Speaker 2: I want to cover that because look, establishment Republicans are
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Speaker 2: still all in for Cornin. They don't care. They don't
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Speaker 2: care about Trump's endorsement, which is a big mistake, I big,
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Speaker 2: and they don't seem to learn their lesson. But we'll
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Speaker 2: find We'll get to that in a moment. But here
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Speaker 2: was what President said. Listen closely to the attributes he
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Speaker 2: gives to James Tallerico. Listen to the way he describes
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Speaker 2: him spoiler alert. Everything he says about tal Rico is
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Speaker 2: one hundred percent accurate. Check it out.
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Speaker 4: A great candidate I believe in Texas, and I believe
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Speaker 4: the Texas candidate who's Ken Paxon. I think he'll win.
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Speaker 4: They probably will win very substantially, and I think he'll
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Speaker 4: go on to defeat a very defective candidate, a candidate
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Speaker 4: that believes in six genders, and he takes its to
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Speaker 4: Jesus Christ. And he's wearing a mask six months ago.
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Speaker 4: Was anybody wearing a mask six months ago?
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Speaker 2: Doesn't get it? And he's a vegan.
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Speaker 4: He's a vegan in Texas, and you can't get elected
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Speaker 4: as a vegan in Texas.
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Speaker 2: Said listen the way he first he said he believes
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Speaker 2: in six genders. He does. I mean he's on record, and.
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Speaker 3: That g and that listen. You can believe in six
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Speaker 3: genders makes you a moron. But when you say Jesus
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Speaker 3: is okay with us believing in six genders, or Jesus
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Speaker 3: is okay with sexually mutilized immediately or children, then you're
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Speaker 3: a blasphemer.
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Speaker 2: Well, and he also believes that Jesus is non binary,
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Speaker 2: right or was that God? That's it was?
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Speaker 3: God is non binary? And I say, I'm going to
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Speaker 3: be I'm going to be mega uber, ultra exponentially fair
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Speaker 3: here in explaining things, and then they can either survive
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Speaker 3: or fail. Is God a man in the way that
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Speaker 3: you and.
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Speaker 2: I are men?
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Speaker 3: No, because God is way beyond being human, So it's
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Speaker 3: not a male and femaleness in the way that it
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Speaker 3: exists in a human condition. So one can say that
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Speaker 3: God is he's not non binary. But here's the thing
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Speaker 3: that you that.
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Speaker 2: Your great answer is just ran out.
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Speaker 3: I pretty well did, because the bottom line is that
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Speaker 3: the image of God is the God is an image
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Speaker 3: of a father, God the Father. It absolutely is a
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Speaker 3: fatherly role, not motherly, not femininist Helen Ready, what have
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Speaker 3: you believe? Back in the day, God is not without
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Speaker 3: a gender reference. Scripturally, he is referred to as he.
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Speaker 3: It is a fatherly image, and certainly mister talleryco seeks
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Speaker 3: to distance from that.
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Speaker 2: And I'm the last guy who should ever try to
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Speaker 2: engage in any kind of spiritual debate with anyone. I mean, look,
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Speaker 2: I'm a Bible believing Christian. I do my best. I
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Speaker 2: fall way short in the eyes of God. But what
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Speaker 2: is the whole part of the Bible about creating man
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Speaker 2: in his own image and likeness? Hello, So that doesn't
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Speaker 2: suggest and here's the other point of contention. To use
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Speaker 2: the term non binary about God is an intentional decision.
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Speaker 2: Is it is a deliberate declaration to use that term,
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Speaker 2: which becomes frankly, it's used right now by the woke left,
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Speaker 2: by the real far left folks who believe that they
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Speaker 2: can be some of them. Are they them? I'm not
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Speaker 2: a he, I'm not a she. These are people that
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Speaker 2: think that feel there's a need to put your pronouns
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Speaker 2: on every email.
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Speaker 3: That's definition. That is, the definition of non binary is
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Speaker 3: a human being choosing not to identify as either male
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Speaker 3: or female, denying both biological truth, denying biblic Listen, you
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Speaker 3: can deny biblical truth. We are a nation of religious freedom,
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Speaker 3: but you're also denying science. You are either male or female.
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Speaker 3: There's some hermaphroditic exceptions somewhere in a lab, but generally speaking,
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Speaker 3: humanity is either male or female. And tall Ico is
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Speaker 3: going to walk around denying that and saying other things.
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Speaker 3: Here on the vegan thing, I don't know. I don't
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Speaker 3: know if he's a vegan. He made reference to having
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Speaker 3: vegan catering at some event. He also very famously you
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Speaker 3: remember when he had Obama in the state the other day. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: and they went to a taco place and he got
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Speaker 3: one that was like potato, egg and cheese.
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Speaker 2: All right, never a taco place, Yes, what.
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Speaker 3: A street taco with potato, egg and cheese.
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Speaker 2: Okay, just stop me.
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Speaker 3: Have I had a potent egg and cheese in my life? Yes?
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Speaker 2: I have.
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Speaker 3: Well, here's what I follow it up with a double
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Speaker 3: cherizo probably, so yeah.
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Speaker 2: Mark curit. Here's here's the thing. If he is, If
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Speaker 2: Tallarico is a vegan, he'd never admit it because Trump
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Speaker 2: is right, yeah, and and and so that's worth looking
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Speaker 2: into I mean, surely there's some record of it. If
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Speaker 2: he's he's got him said he's a.
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Speaker 3: Vegan, one would think, one would think. But but now,
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Speaker 3: all right, I tell you're ready to go into some
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Speaker 3: eminem extra of things I absolutely have not talked about.
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Speaker 2: On the show.
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Speaker 3: Sure it's not that I won't, but this is where
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Speaker 3: we flesh out, quite literally, things that just deserve a
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Speaker 3: snidge of extra attention. Okay. For a long time, Uh,
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Speaker 3: there has been a buzz about Tall Rico about his sexuality.
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Speaker 3: I don't know, wouldn't no, wouldn't say. I have just
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Speaker 3: no idea. I truly truly don't. He sprouted a girlfriend
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Speaker 3: a few days ago. Did you catch that?
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Speaker 2: I did? He made it in an interview.
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Speaker 3: He said he other as a woman I've been involved
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Speaker 3: with for like four years. We're not gonna name her
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Speaker 3: convenient so.
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Speaker 2: And I tell you she may want to remain private.
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Speaker 3: Which I understand. But if you want to, if you
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Speaker 3: want your life to remain private, how about not being
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Speaker 3: involved a sauty who's trying to be a US senator.
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Speaker 3: Because honey, that privacy thing ain't going to last. It
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Speaker 3: is not going to so, and I'm not saying everybody
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Speaker 3: has an obligation to be out there doing campaign events.
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Speaker 3: It'd be kind of nice. I think, generally speaking, you'd
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Speaker 3: like to think if somebody wants to be a senator,
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Speaker 3: wants to be president, wants to be congressman, wants to
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Speaker 3: be mayor that your loving significant other would want to
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Speaker 3: be there, class pans with you, et cetera, et cetera,
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Speaker 3: et ceta, no matter what your sexuality is. But there
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Speaker 3: were people I don't know if it was Wesley Hunt
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Speaker 3: or there were other people there. There were people going, oh,
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Speaker 3: what's his name or somebody else who said something about
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Speaker 3: it being a beard, a beard being a familiar reference
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Speaker 3: to when somebody is gay and in the closet and
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Speaker 3: brings a woman with him somewhere as a beard as
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Speaker 3: a cover to their real sexuality. I know nothing about this.
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Speaker 3: I wouldn't say is it odd, is it convenient, does
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Speaker 3: it seem does the timing seem interesting? Does he perceive
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Speaker 3: that being without a relationship is a net negative? Yeah?
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Speaker 3: But but so there's that.
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Speaker 2: It shouldn't matter, It shouldn't even matter, It shouldn't even be,
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Speaker 2: it shouldn't be a camera.
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Speaker 3: I don't think, and I don't think that it does.
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Speaker 3: I don't okay, I don't think that it does.
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Speaker 2: It should not even matter. And I and I get
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Speaker 2: sometimes I get frustrated when people pretend that that somebody's
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Speaker 2: sexuality is nobody's business. Uh, and then and then they
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Speaker 2: make it about their business. I don't like that. I
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Speaker 2: don't like that at all, never have is.
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Speaker 3: Is that you saying? And I think I'm totally prepared
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Speaker 3: to agree, especially these days. Please that if tall Erico
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Speaker 3: were stone cold, gay doesn't matter, probably doesn't hurt him
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Speaker 3: among Texas Democrats, probably doesn't probably doesn't lose them a
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Speaker 3: vote in twenty twenty six America. It's like, well, I
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Speaker 3: love everything he stands for, but the gay thing, I
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Speaker 3: think that ship is sailed. I think maybe dishonest. It
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Speaker 3: would be a problem if somebody, let's not make a
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Speaker 3: Talarico because I don't know if somebody is gay and
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Speaker 3: secretive about it. Problem, well, problem, It.
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Speaker 2: Might be somebody who don't think it's anybody's business. It
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Speaker 2: might be somebody who says, look, my policies don't have
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Speaker 2: to be defined by by who who I sleep with
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Speaker 2: or who I'm attracted to. If you look at the
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Speaker 2: look we're looking and right now we're living through probably
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Speaker 2: the most successful Treasury secretary in the history of Treasury secretary,
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Speaker 2: Thank you. Scott Bessen is married to a man and
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Speaker 2: they have kids, so you know, and I mean, this
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Speaker 2: is a guy who's who's you know, and and you know,
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Speaker 2: there's a whole I wasn't going to go here, but
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Speaker 2: I might as well mention it. There was an awful,
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Speaker 2: awful tragedy that occurred the other day in South Carolina.
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Speaker 2: There was a police sergeant, very popular police sergeant, and
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Speaker 2: she was killed in a head on car crash. And
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Speaker 2: she was coming back from a family vacation. And this
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Speaker 2: police sergeant was with her partner and her parents. I
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Speaker 2: guess there was her partner's I believe it was her
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Speaker 2: partner's parents, and the parents were killed. The police sergeant
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Speaker 2: was killed, and her partner is on life support. Well,
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Speaker 2: people of course, were enormously moved by this, and go
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Speaker 2: fundme popped up for the kids. It's the Greenville Police Department,
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Speaker 2: which I know well, I've spent right along hours with them.
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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I spent much time I spent
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Speaker 2: in Greenville. The police department was devastated. She was very popular.
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Speaker 2: I believe she was the public information officer for the
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Speaker 2: city for the Greenville Police Department, so she was well
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Speaker 2: known to the media. Well, then it was revealed that
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Speaker 2: the person fighting for their life, the person who survived
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Speaker 2: her partner is a woman. She was married to a woman,
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Speaker 2: and the online hate that immediately erupted. I gave a
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Speaker 2: GoFundMe to help the kids, but now I wish I
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Speaker 2: could get my money back. I want my money back.
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Speaker 2: And oh, she's gonna be She's burning in hell. And
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Speaker 2: I just I see that and I think, gosh, that
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Speaker 2: is that is a a from a bygone era. That
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Speaker 2: is a time when you can make every decision you
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Speaker 2: need to make about your life about uh, you know,
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Speaker 2: your your own personal choices, what you believe, what you
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Speaker 2: don't believe. But dog Garnet, there's so much hatred that
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Speaker 2: is exhibited towards that community and it and I just
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Speaker 2: and I hate it.
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Speaker 3: I just, you know what, I hope I don't know
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Speaker 3: how much of it there was all listen, if it
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Speaker 3: was two percent of everybody that'll fill the comments page
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Speaker 3: for a year, yeah, I like I like to think
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Speaker 3: I'm going to continue to believe that what you witnessed
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Speaker 3: is is it is real needs. As we talked about earlier,
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Speaker 3: I'm a fan of highlighting such things. I always believe
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Speaker 3: in the wisdom of knowing whom to ignore, and generally speaking,
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Speaker 3: hate mongering deserves to be ignored. But we should kind
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Speaker 3: of understand, you know what, this strain of thought exists.
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Speaker 3: My hope in my prayer is that it's a it's
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Speaker 3: a very narrow, but very visual and very vocal and
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Speaker 3: very reactive a group of people that made it seem
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Speaker 3: more than it actually was.
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Speaker 2: You could be right. I hope you're right, because I
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Speaker 2: know that a lot of those people who were saying awful, ugly,
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Speaker 2: terrible things were cloaking their position on their own strong
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Speaker 2: Christian faith. And I keep thinking, I think what you
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Speaker 2: want to take it out on these children? You want
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Speaker 2: to say, I'm a good Christian and these women need
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Speaker 2: to burn in hell and it's there they're an abomination
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Speaker 2: and their terror all.
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Speaker 3: This truth with love? Speak truth, yes, but with love.
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Speaker 3: If you're not doing it with love, then you're doing
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Speaker 3: it wrong.
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Speaker 2: I'm in Well, let's talk a little bit about doing
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Speaker 2: it with love. When it comes to claims the bigotry,
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Speaker 2: you and I kind of debated this a little bit
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Speaker 2: this morning. I want to revisit this because I'm I'm
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Speaker 2: actually fascinated by the Israel factor in frankly, yesterday's election.
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Speaker 2: You know, Tom Massey believes that Israel propped up ed
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Speaker 2: Gallerin's candidacy. He made it very clear that ed Ed
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Speaker 2: Gallerin was beholden to the State of Israel. Tom Massey
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Speaker 2: has been very concerned about Israel's role in our foreign policy. Massey,
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Speaker 2: who of course was against the is against the war
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Speaker 2: in Iran, believes that the only reason we're there is
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Speaker 2: because of Israel, that they have an outsized influence in
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Speaker 2: our foreign policy. And he tried to tell a joke
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Speaker 2: last night in his concession speech, and boy, this joke
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Speaker 2: infuriated a whole lot of people. Let's, uh, let's check
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Speaker 2: out what Massey said in attempting to be funny about
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Speaker 2: trying to reach Ed Gallerin to phone him his his concession.
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Speaker 2: Check this out.
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Speaker 4: But I would have come out sooner, but I had
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Speaker 4: to call my opponent and concede.
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Speaker 2: And it took a while to find Ed Galeran and
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Speaker 2: tell Aviv took a while to find Ed gall Eran
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Speaker 2: and tel Aviv. Now, all right, not a very funny jokes.
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Speaker 2: Anti semitic, Yes it did.
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Speaker 3: It's an anti it's an anti Semitic joke. Doesn't mean
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Speaker 3: that anyone telling it is an anti Semite. And that's
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Speaker 3: why we were kind of dancing on the head of
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Speaker 3: a pen. I think it's in horrible taste at a
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Speaker 3: time when there is real, vicious and murderous anti Semitism
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Speaker 3: in our midst. How about not being a wise ass
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Speaker 3: just because you got your butt beat and that was
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Speaker 3: a horribly tasteless and stupid thing to do.
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Speaker 2: I'm just so intrigued that your your immediate instinctive answer was, well, yes,
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Speaker 2: that's anti semitic.
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Speaker 3: It's an anti Semitic observation, of course it is. Of course,
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Speaker 3: what makes it anti semitic it presumes that Ed Gallerin
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Speaker 3: is hanging out with his Israeli masters rather than being
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Speaker 3: at his campaign headquarters in the Bluegrass day.
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Speaker 2: Why why can't somebody have a position that they believe
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Speaker 2: that Israel is a powerful force that is also helping
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Speaker 2: to shape various elections in our country, impacting our foreign policy,
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Speaker 2: perhaps disproportionately, and yet not have an anti medic bone
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Speaker 2: in their body? Why is it anti semitic to believe
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Speaker 2: all of those things? Look, a joke is a joke,
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Speaker 2: and jokes either work or they don't. That didn't work.
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Speaker 2: You're right, it wasn't funny. But why does it have
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Speaker 2: to be anti Semitic that that Massey was joking that
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Speaker 2: Goalrain is so beholden to Israel that I couldn't reach
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Speaker 2: him because he was hanging out in Tel Aviv? Why
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Speaker 2: is that de facto bigotry?
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Speaker 3: Mark It's an again, an anti semitic joke. There could
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Speaker 3: be a racist joke told by a non racist person.
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Speaker 3: So we're talking about the observation versus the person, and
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Speaker 3: I continue to give Thomas Massey credit for not actually
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Speaker 3: being a Jew hater. Phraseology is everything. You set up
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Speaker 3: a couple of distinctions. If someone, let's say I'm running
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Speaker 3: against you, and I say, you know, Mike, I think
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Speaker 3: you pay way too much attention to Israel. Not anti semitic, Mike,
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Speaker 3: I think you prioritize Israel sometimes at the expense of
18:55
Speaker 3: America's interest, not anti semitic. Note the difference. But if
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Speaker 3: I say you know so, than Mike, I think Israel
19:02
Speaker 3: holds sway over you, holds too much influence over you,
19:07
Speaker 3: that you are beholden to Israel. These are these are tropes.
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Speaker 3: These are the the index cards of anti Semitism that
19:16
Speaker 3: all speak to again that magical allure that the evil
19:20
Speaker 3: Jews supposedly have over unwitting Americans. Trump has been duped
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Speaker 3: into this, He's been goaded into this by by the
19:29
Speaker 3: shylock Net and Yahoo. Those are absolutely the tropes of
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Speaker 3: anti seven.
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Speaker 2: You know, it's it's a it's a really fascinating debate,
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Speaker 2: and I don't really I don't entirely agree with you.
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Speaker 2: I don't entirely agree that to complain about Israel's perceived
19:45
Speaker 2: outsized influence makes one anti semitic. Anti semitic. You could
19:51
Speaker 2: replace the word anti Semite with Jew hater somebody I don't.
19:56
Speaker 2: And you said, Thomas Mask, he's not a Jew hater.
19:58
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna be. I'm gonna be I'm going
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Speaker 3: to give him some benefit of that.
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Speaker 2: I don't think he is either, but I don't know.
20:04
Speaker 2: We don't know what's in his heart. Look, he could be.
20:05
Speaker 2: He could be. And by the way, it could be
20:08
Speaker 2: that in their minds. When people say Israel has an
20:11
Speaker 2: outsized influence in domestic or foreign policy. What they're really
20:14
Speaker 2: thinking about, what's churning through their brain is oh, the Jews,
20:17
Speaker 2: the Jews, the Jews. I hate the Jews. Or they
20:21
Speaker 2: could say I don't have anything against Jewish people. I
20:24
Speaker 2: don't have a bigoted bone in my body, but I
20:27
Speaker 2: don't like Israel's role in domestic or foreign policy.
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Speaker 3: Okay, but here's the thing. It's the words meaning thing.
20:35
Speaker 3: It's the words mean things podcast make it about the person.
20:39
Speaker 3: I think you're paying too much attention to Israel's interest.
20:42
Speaker 3: I think you're paying too much attention to Israeli desires
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Speaker 3: and priorities, rather than America blaming Israel for Israel should
20:51
Speaker 3: want everything it can get from America. It's kind of
20:53
Speaker 3: a Trumpian piece of logic. Let Israel should be Israel first,
20:57
Speaker 3: America should be America first, Greece should be Greece first,
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Speaker 3: should be UK first, et cetera, et cetera. It's when
21:02
Speaker 3: you start to blame Israel for quote unquote having too
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Speaker 3: much influence that begin. Then you're blaming them, rather than
21:09
Speaker 3: blaming the politician or politicians plural, for paying too much
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Speaker 3: attention to that. But if somebody believes there should be
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Speaker 3: no aid to Israel at all, that's not anti Semitic listening.
21:19
Speaker 3: You know what out of you should give a dime
21:21
Speaker 3: to Israel. Okay, that may or may not be, But this,
21:23
Speaker 3: the Israeli influence, they have outsized influence is just from
21:28
Speaker 3: that deck of index cards. It's way too familiar.
21:30
Speaker 2: You know, you could do a litmus test and you
21:32
Speaker 2: could pull three hundred and fifty million Americans and you
21:36
Speaker 2: could say, if you knew that Israel was the reason
21:40
Speaker 2: we went to war with Iran, how would that sit
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Speaker 2: with you? And I can promise you the majority of
21:46
Speaker 2: Americans would say, doesn't sit well with me. I don't
21:49
Speaker 2: like that we were brought into a war because of
21:53
Speaker 2: Israel's influence. Now, we went to war with Iran to
21:57
Speaker 2: prevent Israel from being obliterated from them because if Iran
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Speaker 2: gets their hands on a nuclear weapon, first target is
22:03
Speaker 2: going to be Israel. And that's why I'm glad that
22:06
Speaker 2: we're where we are. But But to somebody who's not
22:09
Speaker 2: you know, who doesn't study these things like we do,
22:12
Speaker 2: to somebody who maybe isn't as well versed, there's a
22:14
Speaker 2: lot of people going to say, Look, all I want
22:16
Speaker 2: to do is feed my family, and I can't pay
22:18
Speaker 2: the bills right now. I can't. I can't afford groceries.
22:21
Speaker 2: I can't afford to fill up my car. I'm I'm
22:24
Speaker 2: struggling right now because of the the affordability problem that
22:27
Speaker 2: I have in my life. And look, the war in
22:29
Speaker 2: Iran is a big part of that. And they don't
22:31
Speaker 2: understand our bond with Israel. They don't particularly care about
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Speaker 2: our bond.
22:36
Speaker 3: Withal, especially in the younger generations they are. And you put,
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Speaker 3: you pointed out so usefully that that that Ed Gollryin
22:42
Speaker 3: won on the older You know, old people rule the
22:45
Speaker 3: old guy. You know, because the generational cut on this,
22:48
Speaker 3: younger folks went all in for Massie. They just weren't
22:51
Speaker 3: enough of them.
22:52
Speaker 2: Mashie didn't he Gallerying didn't carry one demographic below age
22:58
Speaker 2: sixty five. There wasn't a single demographic below the age
23:03
Speaker 2: of sixty five that gave Gallerin away. It was all
23:07
Speaker 2: Massy everybody under it. But guess what boomers showed up
23:11
Speaker 2: sixty five plus. And this is such a powerful lesson,
23:15
Speaker 2: This is a lesson if you get off the damn
23:18
Speaker 2: couch and you show up and vote, We're gonna win.
23:22
Speaker 2: You stay home. We're gonna lose this country to these
23:25
Speaker 2: lunatics on the left. We're gonna lose the country to
23:28
Speaker 2: the likes of people like Governor Wes Moore. And I'm
23:30
Speaker 2: glad you noticed.
23:31
Speaker 3: Before you before you leave where we are, because we
23:33
Speaker 3: got a Wes clip, because I think Wes is writing
23:35
Speaker 3: his own political obituary. Who did a lot of America's
23:39
Speaker 3: irun Iranian war effort and what it does for Israeli
23:42
Speaker 3: interests of Israel. But but but but but but you
23:46
Speaker 3: you The necessary thing in understanding the American war effort
23:51
Speaker 3: in Iran is not that it is first and foremost
23:54
Speaker 3: in Israel's interest. It's not about them first. It's about
23:58
Speaker 3: us first. Is there what are the the American reasons,
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Speaker 3: the pro American America first reasons for us to be
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Speaker 3: at war with Iran. We've been at They've been at
24:08
Speaker 3: war with us for forty seven years, had a death
24:11
Speaker 3: target on our backs individually and collectively for almost fifty years.
24:15
Speaker 3: And if they do, if they do get a nuke,
24:18
Speaker 3: then they've been shut down. The street of horror moves.
24:20
Speaker 3: We got ten dollars gas and they're flipping us the
24:22
Speaker 3: burden saying what are you going to do about it?
24:24
Speaker 3: So Israel Israel Israel Israel. I get it. But the
24:27
Speaker 3: main reason that we're at war with Iran is because
24:29
Speaker 3: of the United States of America. And I think that
24:33
Speaker 3: messaging is not being is not as effective as it
24:36
Speaker 3: but otherwise being.
24:37
Speaker 2: Well, here's a messaging that I hate America because racism
24:42
Speaker 2: is woven into the fabric of this country. This is
24:45
Speaker 2: the very popular, at least to the left. Governor of Maryland,
24:50
Speaker 2: Wes Moore, he sat down with a reporter from Politico
24:53
Speaker 2: and I want to share with you. It's very brief,
24:56
Speaker 2: but this is an exchange that Jonathan Martin from Politico
25:00
Speaker 2: had with Governor Wes Moore. Check this out.
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Speaker 3: Is this a racist country? Do you think? I think
25:07
Speaker 3: that racism is part of an inherent fabric of this country.
25:11
Speaker 2: Didn't miss a beat, Mark, didn't even pause. I think
25:15
Speaker 2: racism is a is part of an inherent fabric of
25:21
Speaker 2: this country, Mark, were.
25:24
Speaker 3: The thing about fabric. The thing about fabric is it
25:26
Speaker 3: exists right now. He's not saying it's a part of
25:28
Speaker 3: our history, which it would be a part of our legacy,
25:30
Speaker 3: which it is, Uh, have we gotten rid of it
25:33
Speaker 3: one hundred percent? Nobody says we have. But the fabric
25:37
Speaker 3: is part of the continuing liberal lie that America has
25:40
Speaker 3: a seething systemic racism problem they can't get past, they
25:44
Speaker 3: can't get past well.
25:45
Speaker 2: And I've been giving this quote a lot of thought,
25:47
Speaker 2: and I played it on my show earlier today as well,
25:49
Speaker 2: And I've been thinking about what one must feel about America.
25:53
Speaker 2: If you think that racism is part of an inherent
25:56
Speaker 2: fabric of America, you gotta hate country. You've got to
26:01
Speaker 2: hate it for because who wants a racist nation? Who
26:06
Speaker 2: wants to hang around bigots? Who wants to be with
26:09
Speaker 2: racist people? Can you imagine what Wes Moore and people
26:13
Speaker 2: who feel the way he feels, what it must be
26:17
Speaker 2: like to go through their life day by day thinking
26:20
Speaker 2: that you're living essentially in a racist nation. You're surrounded
26:24
Speaker 2: by knowingy bigots, and.
26:25
Speaker 3: You know it's worse. You know it's worse for them
26:26
Speaker 3: to be that deceived and for them to be that
26:28
Speaker 3: jazzed up politically and socially. But then you know what
26:31
Speaker 3: these people teach this to their children. Can you imagine
26:35
Speaker 3: a black mother and father with a beautiful young black
26:38
Speaker 3: son or daughter saying, hey, outside this door, it's a
26:42
Speaker 3: racist country just looking to bring you down rather than listen.
26:45
Speaker 3: Out there in the world, there may be some racist
26:47
Speaker 3: folks you run across. God, are you to keep your
26:49
Speaker 3: eyes peeled for it. Don't find it falsely or reflexively,
26:52
Speaker 3: but you might run across it. We're going to arm
26:53
Speaker 3: you against it in one way or another. And that's fine.
26:57
Speaker 3: But the notion that these children are being taught. How
27:00
Speaker 3: many times have I had calls from blacklisters? You say, well,
27:03
Speaker 3: Mark so somber. Once in a while, I need to
27:05
Speaker 3: have the talk with my kids. The talk. What's the talk.
27:08
Speaker 3: It's the talk where you sit down and have to
27:10
Speaker 3: and you have to reveal to your son and daughter.
27:12
Speaker 2: It's not like this is.
27:13
Speaker 3: Nineteen fifty five or sixty five or nineteens in and
27:15
Speaker 3: we didn't fix everything instantly, and we haven't totally fixed
27:18
Speaker 3: it now. But this notion that you still to this
27:20
Speaker 3: day should tell your young black sons and daughters that
27:24
Speaker 3: out there, beyond that school room, beyond that home, beyond
27:26
Speaker 3: that business, is a country with systemic racism that is
27:31
Speaker 3: a smear on modern America.
27:34
Speaker 2: It's kind of pathetic. I was listening to another talk
27:38
Speaker 2: show this morning coming into work. I was bouncing around
27:40
Speaker 2: with between you and Tara, who's the morning host in
27:43
Speaker 2: South Carolina. We have a lot of people in the
27:45
Speaker 2: upstate who are following us now on our YouTube channel
27:47
Speaker 2: and subscribing to the podcast. And Tara a very smart
27:51
Speaker 2: host in Greenville and word and Tara pointed out, find
27:56
Speaker 2: one Black American today who's ever been turned and away
28:01
Speaker 2: at the voting bame, who can't vote, who can't name one?
28:03
Speaker 2: Exactly what name one? Find one? You don't think the
28:06
Speaker 2: New York Times would be all over that to identify
28:08
Speaker 2: us the Rosa Parks of twenty twenty six, absolutely, because
28:12
Speaker 2: it but they don't exist. It's like a unicorn, it's
28:15
Speaker 2: it doesn't happen. And this is the nonsense of the opposite,
28:19
Speaker 2: the Democrat opposition to the Save Act and redistricting and
28:23
Speaker 2: voter id laws. And I mean to pretend that what
28:28
Speaker 2: we're trying to do with redistricting is is prevent blacks
28:32
Speaker 2: from having the opportunity to vote. And let's let's analyze
28:35
Speaker 2: that for a minute. Because the reason the reason that
28:38
Speaker 2: the Democrats are howling in protests they believe that that,
28:42
Speaker 2: for example, in South Carolina, if that, if indeed they're
28:45
Speaker 2: successful at their redistricting effort, they're going to eliminate a
28:49
Speaker 2: majority black district carved out for Jim Clyburn. James Clyburn
28:54
Speaker 2: has been a US Congressman for about one hundred and
28:57
Speaker 2: fifty years. He's he's up for reelection for like sixty
29:00
Speaker 2: seventh time, and it's it's an artificial district. It's carved
29:05
Speaker 2: out there. But their point is if you don't carve
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Speaker 2: out a district and prop up an artificially an artificial
29:13
Speaker 2: majority black district, then nobody black could ever get elected.
29:18
Speaker 2: And and somebody asked Hans van Spotowski that question the
29:21
Speaker 2: other day on CBS Sunday Morning, and he said, well,
29:24
Speaker 2: sure they are vote Republican. They're a lot of Byron
29:28
Speaker 2: Donalds could win. That say exactly right, and they're the
29:31
Speaker 2: next governor of Florida one hundred percent. And this is
29:33
Speaker 2: what the wes Moores, that not just Black Democrats, but
29:37
Speaker 2: white Democrats don't get. And then maybe the last sort
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Speaker 2: of PostScript on on wes Moore before you want to
29:42
Speaker 2: get to anything else, is I will never forget I've
29:45
Speaker 2: got this bookmarked. When he was in another interview just
29:50
Speaker 2: a few days ago and somebody said, hey, what if
29:52
Speaker 2: you're what if one of your kids winds up trans which,
29:54
Speaker 2: by the way, is a wonderful question to ask any
29:56
Speaker 2: politician because the answer will be very telling, and the
29:59
Speaker 2: answer should be I would drop to my knees and
30:02
Speaker 2: ask a loving and healing God to make my son
30:04
Speaker 2: or daughter better and make him or her familiar with
30:07
Speaker 2: with what he actually is.
30:08
Speaker 3: That wasn't Wes' answer. Wes His answer was, well, I
30:11
Speaker 3: want him to be comfortable in his own skin, and
30:14
Speaker 3: I would walk with him on this journey. What the
30:16
Speaker 3: journey to the mutilation table? What? I just think that
30:21
Speaker 3: is absolutely disqualifying. And I don't know who. I don't
30:24
Speaker 3: know who that Listen, we talked to you a couple
30:26
Speaker 3: of days ago about but Steven A. Smith, I I
30:29
Speaker 3: don't know what the democrats hope is for twenty eight.
30:31
Speaker 3: Maybe that's an entire future epic. That could be another,
30:34
Speaker 3: that could be another one of our another whole segment
30:36
Speaker 3: of a podcasts, and it should be. Let's close with
30:40
Speaker 3: just a big picture takeaway from yesterday. I want to
30:42
Speaker 3: close this way. I'll get the ball rolling. I think
30:45
Speaker 3: the major takeaway is that we witnessed and we experienced
30:49
Speaker 3: the beginning of a very deliberate and very tangible momentum.
30:55
Speaker 3: This is momentum. This is what momentum looks like going
30:57
Speaker 3: into the midterm elections. These primary elections that are happening
31:01
Speaker 3: all over the country are a lead up to the
31:03
Speaker 3: general to the general election, the midterm election of November third.
31:08
Speaker 3: What we saw yesterday in this stunning epic across the
31:13
Speaker 3: board Republican victory is the beginning of a real, tangible
31:18
Speaker 3: and enthusiastic momentum for our side. History suggests that the
31:24
Speaker 3: Republicans can't win in the midterm under this scenario, the
31:28
Speaker 3: opposition party always wins, and blah blah blah. I think
31:32
Speaker 3: we're going to see a good shot at upending the
31:35
Speaker 3: history books, and for the first time ever, we're going
31:37
Speaker 3: to see a Republican victory in the House and in
31:40
Speaker 3: the Senate. And I think yesterday was the start of
31:42
Speaker 3: that journey. Do you agree with me. I think there's
31:45
Speaker 3: a plausible, solid likelihood of that that the history trend
31:49
Speaker 3: gets bucked here. And maybe it's because for months and
31:51
Speaker 3: months and months we're just headed up to our eyeballs
31:53
Speaker 3: with being told that we're going to get our clocks cleaned,
31:56
Speaker 3: and maybe it's just good, solid, actual conservative energy, because
31:59
Speaker 3: it's it's all about beating the left, which it always is,
32:02
Speaker 3: but along the path, it's about beating the rhino out
32:05
Speaker 3: of some people and beating the squishes and the moderates
32:08
Speaker 3: and the false warriors and the insufficiently conservative pretenders and
32:13
Speaker 3: showing them to the extinction that they so richly deserve.
32:16
Speaker 3: I've about had it with people telling me that if
32:18
Speaker 3: Ken Paxton is the nominee, which he may well be
32:20
Speaker 3: six days from now, that it's going to be such
32:22
Speaker 3: a burden to drag him across the finish line, as
32:26
Speaker 3: if it wouldn't be a burden off corn in one.
32:28
Speaker 3: And you have millions of dispirited, a passionate, maga grassroots voters.
32:32
Speaker 3: Either way, we're going to have a challenge in uniting.
32:34
Speaker 3: But the notion that it's uniquely hard if we elect
32:37
Speaker 3: the real consistent conservative is bs And just just to
32:41
Speaker 3: show further harmony with what you've said, if by the
32:43
Speaker 3: time we get to November, we have a Republican party
32:47
Speaker 3: that has made clear what its requirements are and again,
32:51
Speaker 3: none of you are to march in lockstep with Trump
32:53
Speaker 3: three hundred and sixty five days year. But you know,
32:55
Speaker 3: generally speaking, don't be a spoken don't be a stick
32:58
Speaker 3: in the spokes, don't be an obstructionist. We think the
33:01
Speaker 3: Trump agenda is worth supporting, and if you do, we're
33:05
Speaker 3: going to reward you with that, and we're gonna reward
33:07
Speaker 3: you in November, and America will be rewarded with actual
33:10
Speaker 3: Republican success.
33:11
Speaker 2: Well, please just be prepared that they're gonna do everything
33:15
Speaker 2: they can or demoralize us. They're gonna try to demoralize
33:18
Speaker 2: us every step of the way from now until November
33:21
Speaker 2: the third. They're gonna lie, they're gonna they're gonna cheat.
33:23
Speaker 2: If we let them get away with it, they're gonna steal.
33:25
Speaker 2: But they're gonna try to suppress your enthusiasm to get
33:29
Speaker 2: out and vote. And yesterday is a big, big reminder
33:32
Speaker 2: of that. If you show up, you get off the couch.
33:35
Speaker 2: We're gonna win, all right, my friend, Happy Wednesday.
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