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- 0:08Hello, good evening.
- 0:10Welcome.
- 0:11I am Samuel trap.
- 0:12This is international flavor.
- 0:14You're listening to damn radio I'm coming to
- 0:17you live tonight from the Lake Ozark real
- 0:20estate of the art studio in I've got
- 0:25a bunch of things.
- 0:26I want to cover tonight, but not in
- 0:28any particular order Lot of topics a lot
- 0:32of interesting news Coming out.
- 0:35I think I want to start with some
- 0:38direct quotes I had to go out and
- 0:40find these because there's been various stories about
- 0:45the Angelina Jolie Guard and I've been out
- 0:50looking and if you listen to it from
- 0:51the West, oh she's out there, you know
- 0:54doing all kinds of things and Protecting children
- 1:01and talking about you with children who sit
- 1:04under constant shelling every day and all that
- 1:06kind of thing and With then you hear
- 1:10it from the other points of view and
- 1:12you hear how?
- 1:15What we do not hear the part of
- 1:17the story that we do not hear and
- 1:20so I'm gonna share with you a bit
- 1:24of a Monologue and that someone was giving
- 1:28and then a bit of a discussion between
- 1:32several people but I'm gonna focus on just
- 1:36two and I don't have their names right
- 1:38here, but Let's talk about it.
- 1:41First.
- 1:42They were talking about some sort of genetic
- 1:46error they were talking about corruption in Ukraine
- 1:50and This is on Solovey off Even an
- 1:54evening with Solovey of which I like to
- 1:56watch and And just to get an alternative
- 2:00view, right and they have their share of
- 2:02propaganda We got ours or we just don't
- 2:06provide the rest of the story, you know,
- 2:08where where is Paul?
- 2:11Harvey when you need him Providing the rest
- 2:14of the story.
- 2:14We don't get the rest of the story,
- 2:17but he was talking about how everybody's He
- 2:20said there's some sort of genetic error on
- 2:24the production line of these puppets and he's
- 2:26talking about people like Zelensky he said it's
- 2:30impossible to distinguish one from the other and
- 2:32he was talking about Yanukovych Zelensky all the
- 2:39other Ukrainian people he says but they are
- 2:41all crooked.
- 2:42They are really crooked But all of this
- 2:45is just some sort of tragedy and at
- 2:48the same time The level of such is
- 2:50so high such theft But notice the Western
- 2:55says, you know blow blow blow by blow.
- 2:59It's gonna be difficult for them and But
- 3:03this is this is Russian propagandists speaking, but
- 3:07it isn't this is this is Naboo So
- 3:10he's saying of course, it's Russia.
- 3:12Why not Russia?
- 3:13Of course Russia.
- 3:14Yes, of course and We don't even need
- 3:17to say anything we don't need to say
- 3:19anything and we will still be a blamed
- 3:22it's just Mindik the owner of studio Kvartal
- 3:26which he co-founded with Zelensky.
- 3:29It was this organization that the created the
- 3:33service of the people the man of the
- 3:35people a popular satire on domestic political corruption
- 3:39in Ukraine Which the show led Zelensky to
- 3:44the presidency and then life-repeated art You
- 3:50can call us Russian propagandists, but the trolls
- 3:54and bots will all be Delighted it is
- 3:57certainly undeniable that Ukraine Should not help that
- 4:02any money or shouldn't have helped that money
- 4:06would be stolen but this phrase Despite all
- 4:10this talk of democracy is no different from
- 4:15any other comments We we didn't steal these
- 4:19come comments.
- 4:20We don't steal.
- 4:21We don't have that type of corruption for
- 4:24us It's not even close those who try
- 4:27to engage in such corruption are sitting in
- 4:31jail all over our country and We were
- 4:36brought to our senses in the 90s, but
- 4:38these People from the West and it reminded
- 4:42me of the guy who calls it all
- 4:44the time these Western faggots Come to your
- 4:49senses you Ursula von der Leyen types stole
- 4:55billions you are even afraid to start a
- 4:58business and you want to steal Russia's money
- 5:01they're talking about and Bloomberg these are the
- 5:06these I'm sorry.
- 5:08I'm gonna tell you just like he said
- 5:10it on the TV He said and these
- 5:12people from Bloomberg these bastards in America you
- 5:16have Biden with his sons in the same
- 5:18Ukraine they stole all kinds of money, but
- 5:22it's all Russia's fault You need to be
- 5:25imprisoned bastards and of course listen to the
- 5:29Western media Angelina Jolie, oh another greedy Hollywood
- 5:36bitch she took pity and Some money from
- 5:43modest guys in the I don't know the
- 5:46abbreviation PC PCC I think it was the
- 5:52Army and you can hear in this part
- 5:54of the story.
- 5:55I didn't hear before I've seen it, but
- 5:58I haven't heard it from anybody and he
- 6:00says Ukrainian officials demanded $100,000 from Angelina
- 6:06Jolie for the release of her bodyguard and
- 6:08he played the video and the video Was
- 6:11in English and I haven't been able to
- 6:13find it and I and I saw it,
- 6:15but I couldn't see any identifying Marks on
- 6:18it and you know like where it came
- 6:21from whether it was a TV station or
- 6:23what?
- 6:23But it didn't appear to be a YouTube
- 6:26video He must have gotten it from a
- 6:29TV station But they played it in English
- 6:31and I heard the English and then heard
- 6:32the translation in Russian And so it was
- 6:35in the English language, and maybe it came
- 6:37from Europe or something I don't know, but
- 6:39what he said on the show was Ukrainian
- 6:42officials demanded 100,000 from Angelo Angelina Jolie
- 6:47for the release of her bodyguards and And
- 6:51I heard that exact comment from whatever person
- 6:55was speaking in English and Angelina Jolie stated
- 6:59that they Wanted a hundred thousand dollars from
- 7:03her so they arrested her bodyguard in the
- 7:06hopes of getting her to pay a bribe
- 7:09to them and so that was new and
- 7:13I'd heard it before but but not straight
- 7:15up and certainly not in English and so
- 7:19The video was in English though.
- 7:21I just haven't been able to find it.
- 7:22Maybe somebody Better skilled than I at finding
- 7:25those will be able to find it But
- 7:27this story goes on for several several minute
- 7:30or this conversation that he was having or
- 7:31this because they each get a go on
- 7:34and do their dialogue and so I Translated
- 7:37what he said as near as I could
- 7:38and it was fun to listen to and
- 7:41so I thought I'd share it with you
- 7:43But Ukrainian officials demanded a hundred thousand from
- 7:45Angelina Jolie for the release of her bodyguard
- 7:49She was dragged into a real drama in
- 7:52the zone of hostilities during her recent visit
- 7:55to Ukraine The bodyguard of the actress who
- 7:59was also her driver Was detained and taken
- 8:02to the police station after he was stopped
- 8:04at a checkpoint He was accused of not
- 8:07having military documents Jolie was in shock when
- 8:11the man was taken away and Sent to
- 8:14the regional recruitment center To and she went
- 8:19to this regional recruitment center to try to
- 8:22negotiate his release the employee of the legacy
- 8:26of wars company who accompanied Jolie said the
- 8:31situation in the recruitment center was sharpened or
- 8:36was Pretty But you it it got worse
- 8:42basically after the employees demanded money from the
- 8:46actress They said they could release him for
- 8:49a hundred thousand dollars.
- 8:51It was shocking They just called the price
- 8:54as if it were part of the documentation
- 8:56said one of the members of the organization
- 9:00And I heard them say as if this
- 9:02was an everyday, you know request asking for
- 9:05a hundred thousand They don't ask for a
- 9:08hundred thousand from everybody I'm sure they did
- 9:10that because it was Angelina Jolie later a
- 9:12statement by the by the News agency confirmed
- 9:18that this incident took place in Nikolaev The
- 9:23official emphasized that Jolie did not interfere in
- 9:26any military work And Ukraine is doing its
- 9:30best to prevent citizens from evading the call
- 9:33to duty because the hostilities intensifying We were
- 9:38told that Angelina Jolie felt an extreme need
- 9:42and had to go pee It's what the
- 9:45guy said and everyone knows Well, the only
- 9:48in play only place in Ukraine where you
- 9:50can calmly satisfy this need for a Hollywood
- 9:54star Is the regional recruitment center?
- 9:58Listen citizens of Ukraine.
- 10:00Do you really want to die for this
- 10:02power?
- 10:03Klitschko told you he's another Ukrainian Theft guy
- 10:10told you that the call that the time
- 10:13to be called had to be shortened to
- 10:15your your what that what they said and
- 10:18this is a bad translation, but the He
- 10:20said that they need to reduce the recruitment
- 10:23age Tell me do you really have what
- 10:25do you have about a million and a
- 10:27half young men left?
- 10:28About a million and a half in three
- 10:30years when everyone dies, will you continue to
- 10:34include?
- 10:35Fools and and young men.
- 10:37I do not understand Those for whom you
- 10:41put your life in their hands are just
- 10:44thieves and scum by the way much worse
- 10:48than those against whom one of you jumped
- 10:51on my dad and my dad is you
- 10:54know the the Overthrow the government Can we
- 11:00match it?
- 11:00Let's show this today Pavel and I Wrote
- 11:04in the morning and Pavel says I just
- 11:06got back, but I want to show it
- 11:07Anyway, this is a frightening video and I
- 11:10watched this video and this I want to
- 11:12share with you.
- 11:13But this is Horrifying and it was a
- 11:17I watched the guy Tell his story and
- 11:20he's basically a Ukrainian Prisoner of war and
- 11:25he's being held and he's telling these things
- 11:27rather matter-of-factly And he's not very
- 11:30bright and he has a bit of a
- 11:32stutter.
- 11:33So it was hard to To follow him
- 11:37completely, but what he said was he said
- 11:41well, it's the the One of the guys
- 11:45talking first he said we may they made
- 11:47this film and it's very hard to watch
- 11:49these I had a whole discussion with my
- 11:52students at the Academy who are all future
- 11:55priests but at the same time I showed
- 11:58this frame to them and we were all
- 12:00in a consensus about these horrible crimes and
- 12:05such a terrible number of crimes But I
- 12:10want people to understand what we are talking
- 12:12about and I'm reading the whole the whole
- 12:17Part and so this guy starts talking and
- 12:19here's where the Ukrainian prisoner of war Started
- 12:24to talk and he what he said was
- 12:30so The commander told us that we had
- 12:34to understand who we are fighting with So
- 12:37that there would be no peace in this
- 12:41village.
- 12:41We were Attacking in this village it turns
- 12:44out was in Kursk.
- 12:46So last year when the Ukrainians crossed into
- 12:49Kursk What they were doing was systematically going
- 12:53to villages and there were a lot of
- 12:55stories of it at the time But of
- 12:57course the West didn't carry it at all
- 13:00and you would he would see it and
- 13:02hear it It was all over telegram and
- 13:04everywhere else.
- 13:05Well this guy and a couple others have
- 13:08been Charged with criminal affairs for crossing the
- 13:12border into Russia and Russia said it that
- 13:15when they picked these people up this was
- 13:18they were not going to charge him under
- 13:19any sort of war they were going to
- 13:21charge him as Criminals and if we catch
- 13:27the people who are doing these things we
- 13:29will charge them criminally and not as Not
- 13:33as this guy needs to be charged criminally.
- 13:35No doubt this guy needs to go to
- 13:37prison for the rest of his life but
- 13:39the they Warned about it and said if
- 13:43you come into Kursk, which is Russian territory
- 13:48we will After if we capture you you
- 13:53surrender we including Western What do you call
- 13:58them?
- 14:00Mercenaries at those mercenaries we're going to Prosecute
- 14:05you criminally you'll be in jail the rest
- 14:08of your lives This is not the the
- 14:10war the war is in Ukraine.
- 14:12This is people invading our country So now
- 14:18the Ukrainians have taken a similar approach on
- 14:20the other side, by the way, so that's
- 14:22that's not unusual But they're generally holding to
- 14:25the Geneva Convention for the most part for
- 14:27stuff that is going on the war But
- 14:29these are separate crimes and I don't claim
- 14:32to be an expert on which one it
- 14:34is But I get the argument both ways
- 14:36is all I'm saying so we can figure
- 14:39that out later.
- 14:40But here's this Ukrainian Whore.
- 14:44Oh what a guy but it's he was
- 14:47matter-of-fact about it and he and
- 14:49you know, he did it You know, this
- 14:51is not somebody who didn't do these things
- 14:54so He said there was going to be
- 14:58no peace left in this village and no
- 15:00one left alive So we went from village
- 15:04to village We but this village we went
- 15:08to the very first house and there was
- 15:10a young girl named Nadia the The commander
- 15:15of our group gave the command to kidnap
- 15:18and rape the girl Which I did she
- 15:22was then shot in the back and we
- 15:24went to the next house There were two
- 15:27men and a woman the man Was beaten
- 15:32and and killed and shot and the woman
- 15:37was raped and Raped and raped and then
- 15:40killed our next battle in that same village
- 15:44was on the first and he's talking about
- 15:47because Well, that'll that'll be made clear here
- 15:50later we went to the very same village
- 15:53and there was a basement in the same
- 15:56house and there were Elderly people and we
- 16:00tied them up and put them in the
- 16:02basement and threw grenades at them in The
- 16:05second room there were two women and a
- 16:09man The men were killed or the man
- 16:12was killed at once The women were raped
- 16:15and then killed and then we returned to
- 16:18our positions and they see the Interrogator says
- 16:23where was that?
- 16:24He said it was the course guy oblast
- 16:26the suit John ski district This is where
- 16:31and and the guy paused the tape and
- 16:35he said This is why I think our
- 16:37guys are Saints.
- 16:38He's this interviewer.
- 16:40He's talking about I would have strangled this
- 16:43man with my own hands.
- 16:44I would have torn him to pieces He
- 16:46has no right to live on this earth
- 16:49This is why Vladimir Putin said all the
- 16:52terrorists that came to course Oblast will be
- 16:55killed in the basements all of them all
- 16:58of them and then the guy who was
- 17:00it who did the video?
- 17:02Or it was introducing the video.
- 17:04He says I agree velodya remember three years
- 17:06ago when we discussed the possibility of Holding
- 17:10a public trial trial for the mariopal prisoners
- 17:13Because they were they were terrible if you
- 17:16watch those mariopal videos years ago.
- 17:18Well three years ago We hoped that there
- 17:21would be a public trial.
- 17:22It would be good To be a lawyer
- 17:25for the victims, but in the end everything
- 17:28ended with just an exchange You know you
- 17:32give back your prisoners and we take ours
- 17:34and the mercenaries, you know Because of the
- 17:37fear that there would be a fund to
- 17:39buy this Australian Canadian Austrian Finnish Spanish and
- 17:42Georgian mercenaries.
- 17:43That is why we try not to take
- 17:46them as For this subject.
- 17:49It's 21 episodes This guy that was just
- 17:52the first one.
- 17:53I'm the one who interrogated him and I
- 17:57can't interrogate Investigators, it's very difficult for me
- 18:01to bear what he says and almost impossible
- 18:04to watch But it turns out that it's
- 18:07necessary It's necessary because he says a very
- 18:11important thing.
- 18:12He said it's not important, but it's something
- 18:15to remember He says that the commander gave
- 18:18an order not to leave any Civilians alive
- 18:22in the village and when he says they
- 18:25came back on the 1st It's almost a
- 18:27month later on the 1st of September and
- 18:30they came back to clean up It's almost
- 18:34like a hundred years ago 80 or 90
- 18:37years ago The Nazis were cleaning the whole
- 18:40occupied territories and one of the Nazi Ideologists
- 18:44Heinrich Himmler said that the task was This
- 18:48is horror not to turn our victims into
- 18:52our accusers So that's what they were doing
- 18:57If they were killing people that might later
- 19:01accuse them of atrocities They just you know,
- 19:04rape them and then kill them it was
- 19:07the key of authorities who learned these lessons
- 19:10of Nazism and they consider Hitler a failure
- 19:14and what he says that the task took
- 19:16was to destroy This guy they were talked
- 19:19that we were interviewing to destroy all the
- 19:21civilians the girl who was first raped and
- 19:23then killed she was a Teenager they didn't
- 19:27leave anyone alive when they entered our Kursk
- 19:32territory What we used to say is that
- 19:35we need to create a buffer zone These
- 19:3728 settlements that that we drove through glushkova
- 19:41Kornievsky Sujansky districts there is not a single
- 19:45house left.
- 19:46There is not a single Temple from is
- 19:50what the word is.
- 19:51It's actually a church with the it's the
- 19:53one with the golden cupola on top He
- 19:56said this is a film that we just
- 19:58finished with velodya's team And I hope it
- 20:00will be shown and and I watched that
- 20:03video and and and maybe I'll give you
- 20:06a couple more minutes but I I Want
- 20:09to get back to where we were but
- 20:12he says because in parallel with the cleaning
- 20:15of Killing all these people the cleaning up
- 20:19of people that were left alive that might
- 20:21be able to accuse them another team Also
- 20:25learning from the Nazis came to the churches
- 20:28and temples and took icons and and if
- 20:32you ever been in a Russian church, which
- 20:33I have it is incredible how old they
- 20:40are and They have icons that are Centuries
- 20:48old in there that were painted in 800
- 20:52AD, you know stuff like that that have
- 20:55been around in these churches are built ages
- 20:58and ages ago so they go in and
- 21:01they are cutting them out of the wall
- 21:03and taking them right and the most valuable
- 21:07the oldest are taken out of the and
- 21:10they're usually got gold on them and Then
- 21:13they destroy the temples and so they they
- 21:16they in these 26 cities They they took
- 21:19out every church they got rid of them
- 21:22But first they went in and took all
- 21:24of the icons is what they are Saying
- 21:27and this guy the 26 temples were destroyed
- 21:30These are his accomplices and the news comes
- 21:33from Ukraine today.
- 21:34Not that it's a corruption scandal, but that
- 21:36today Vlad Vladika arsony the head of the
- 21:40st.
- 21:40Torgos Galavra is that the church a man
- 21:44seriously ill who survived a severe operation and
- 21:49They say that Chai of Lavra was plundered
- 21:53the key of purchase Lavra was plundered and
- 21:55I will and the Lavra is the Spot
- 21:58where all the icons are stored and it's
- 22:00a very beautiful place.
- 22:01And when you go in these Russian churches,
- 22:03they're just unbelievably beautiful and Wow, I went
- 22:09into one a wooden a wooden structure built
- 22:13in like 1300 and in Jeez, what city
- 22:18was that?
- 22:20I can't remember but but it was it
- 22:23was unbelievable to walk into where people have
- 22:26been going to church since the 1300s and
- 22:30they have the same icons that are in
- 22:32there and these same paintings that were done
- 22:36and people have been praying to them forever
- 22:39and It in front of them.
- 22:42I mean they don't pray to them That
- 22:44that I don't know and they're providing evidence
- 22:47because it just so happened that I had
- 22:49to go to a fun and I'm not
- 22:51gonna read these whole stories.
- 22:52But but these I Listened to the whole
- 22:56show and I was kind of glued to
- 22:58it, you know because of what they were
- 23:00talking about And so I wanted to go
- 23:05into some of that for you and I
- 23:07do plan to come back to that a
- 23:10little bit because Further in my my text
- 23:13here.
- 23:14I have some of it some of it
- 23:16scripted but there's there's plenty more that I
- 23:18want to talk about today and I wanted
- 23:22to kind of put This I mean war
- 23:27sucks and it really needs to end I
- 23:29mean it just does and you know, it's
- 23:31kind of funny.
- 23:32We haven't heard anything said about it since
- 23:35shutdown and I mean seriously, what have we
- 23:39heard about?
- 23:41US funding u.s. Engaging.
- 23:44The only thing I've heard was that oh
- 23:46gee We aren't gonna give anything to Ukraine
- 23:51NATO has to buy it or Europe has
- 23:53to buy it and they buy it from
- 23:54us and then give it to Ukraine because
- 23:56We're gonna run this place like a business
- 23:58now.
- 24:00I Think we shouldn't even sell it to
- 24:02him.
- 24:02But but that's me I suppose if you
- 24:04want to make money off it, that's okay,
- 24:06but it's it's really not.
- 24:08Okay, because on the battlefront is Faster and
- 24:13faster.
- 24:14This is no longer Incremental tiny gains.
- 24:18We're having pretty large gains on the Russian
- 24:21side Frequently and they there was a report
- 24:25I listened to today.
- 24:26It said that Sierski is really in in
- 24:31hot water over this put cross Debacle and
- 24:35and that there, you know this cauldron this
- 24:38encirclement of Prokhorov sq and that Their stories
- 24:44that say that they found another 10,000
- 24:48soldiers.
- 24:48In fact, it was on one of these
- 24:49shows I heard it that there's another 10
- 24:52,000 soldiers that they picked up and gave
- 24:54them two weeks two weeks basic training and
- 25:00Threw them into the front in Prokhorov skill
- 25:03Two weeks brand new soldiers two weeks now
- 25:10My training was longer than most Okay, but
- 25:12basic training if I remember basic training was
- 25:1512 or 14 weeks something like that three
- 25:18months, right?
- 25:20Two and a half three months Then I
- 25:23went to Russian school.
- 25:25Now.
- 25:25That was a year.
- 25:26I went to Russian school for a year,
- 25:28but then I went to Learn my job
- 25:31electronic warfare right electronic warfare collection jamming Interrogation
- 25:37those were my duties as an interpreter If
- 25:41I was gonna if I went to war,
- 25:44you know, that's what I would be doing
- 25:45and we had tactical equipment strategically the strategic
- 25:49part was knowing the Russian and I ended
- 25:52up doing I had a strategic assignment and
- 25:54that was My diplomatic passport holding and doing
- 25:57arms control.
- 25:58Those are strategic issues tactical means during warfare
- 26:02and I was electronic warfare and signals intelligence
- 26:05and listening to using equipment to Listen to
- 26:10other people right to the other side or
- 26:13be able to in all the training that
- 26:15you went through I never used it in
- 26:16war Because you know, I speak Russian if
- 26:19I assume if I'd have spoken Arabic I'd
- 26:22have been on the front in Iraq one
- 26:24in Iraq two, but to take people who
- 26:28have never been in the army or practice
- 26:32or been in the military at all and
- 26:35Give them two weeks to learn how to
- 26:37use a weapon to learn how to throw
- 26:39a grenade to learn how to maybe use
- 26:43a collage Kalashnikov rifle something To even wear
- 26:48your equipment properly, you know anything Yeah, and
- 26:52everybody wants to be a drone operator, but
- 26:54these two weak people they aren't learning how
- 26:57to do drones No friggin way.
- 26:59They're throwing them out in the front and
- 27:00throwing them a rifle and saying take Prokofiev's
- 27:02back and This I've seen several reports of
- 27:06this but I only saw the one video
- 27:08and if that's true The end is the
- 27:10end is nigh at the end is here
- 27:13basically And you heard me read a little
- 27:16while ago that that little clip that said
- 27:21You know you want to grab a weapon
- 27:25and you know, come on down and stand
- 27:28to post Do you know you what would
- 27:30you for your young men?
- 27:31You have a million and a half young
- 27:33men left now.
- 27:35Remember the recruitment age or the mobile.
- 27:38It's not recruitment It's mobilization there They're just
- 27:41picking people up off the street beating the
- 27:43snot out of them throwing them in a
- 27:45van and taking them to a place giving
- 27:47them two weeks of Training and and they're
- 27:50they're they're anti they're against it So two
- 27:53weeks of training when they don't want to
- 27:55be trained and the they're having they're leaving
- 27:59they say a fourth of them a fourth
- 28:02are Going AWOL and trying to get out
- 28:05and then they're getting charged with that, you
- 28:07know, we're killed for that I mean, it's
- 28:09it's it's brutal what's going on, but 18
- 28:13to 25 year olds are not mobilized and
- 28:16in fact, they've allowed tons of them to
- 28:18leave the country and And they just have
- 28:21to register and then they can leave the
- 28:23country And so that's exactly what they're doing
- 28:25because they know the next step is to
- 28:27mobilize the 18 to 25 year olds So
- 28:30the comment is well, geez What do you
- 28:32got a million and a half of those
- 28:33if you're lucky and that's true because they
- 28:36don't have more than 20 million people left
- 28:38in Ukraine, they had 50, you know back
- 28:431991 their leather less than 20 now is
- 28:47the numbers that I've seen and Then everybody's
- 28:51leaving, you know, anyway They don't have anything
- 28:55to go I I'm Against this war and
- 28:59it needs to end it will end at
- 29:01some point and and Russia is driving right
- 29:04now they're driving and But there were two
- 29:07stories that I wanted to talk about and
- 29:10for different reasons and the first one Is
- 29:16just another part of how ugly this is
- 29:20now this one happened in Donbass now Donbass
- 29:23is now Russian territory and they didn't say
- 29:26whether it was Donetsk or Lugansk but another
- 29:29one occurred south of Moscow as well that
- 29:32there there are people there but It not
- 29:35as bad as this one in this one
- 29:38In Moscow south southern suburbs somewhere in Moscow
- 29:43there's a nine-year-old boy and He
- 29:46picked up what he thought was some money
- 29:50because they tied some money to something in
- 29:53the ground in the string and instead he
- 29:57lost He was he's not dead but he
- 30:02was blown up by a an explosive device
- 30:06picking it up and That's one story I
- 30:11want to get to on the other one
- 30:13is a lady from Siberia and Russia day,
- 30:17which I can't remember the day.
- 30:18I want to say it's like June 12th
- 30:20or something, but I don't remember but She's
- 30:23a blogger.
- 30:24Her name is Maria Machmutova, and she's from
- 30:27the town of Shelekhov in the Irkutsk region
- 30:30and She opened her mouth on Russia day
- 30:33and went on a rant on the on
- 30:35a video and Now she's serving a criminal
- 30:40sentence for the I don't know what you
- 30:45would call it circumstances for what Resulted afterward
- 30:51so same country same government two different types
- 30:56of cases Both of them tell us about
- 30:59you know The line between Protecting society or
- 31:04just punishing people.
- 31:06Okay, so let's start with the boy first
- 31:08and according to the Russian reports He sees
- 31:11what looks like a banknote on the ground.
- 31:14He's nine years old.
- 31:15Of course.
- 31:16He reaches down to pick it up and
- 31:18Somebody planted it improvised explosive device Right under
- 31:23the money and it detonated Wasn't a movie
- 31:26stunt not a YouTube prank It's a kid
- 31:28in a city street, and he's maimed for
- 31:31life because somebody went after the enemy But
- 31:36you know allegedly by putting a handful of
- 31:38cash and turning it into a booby trap
- 31:41You know You don't have to like or
- 31:45dislike Russia You don't have to support or
- 31:48not support policies of Moscow to look at
- 31:51something like that and say That's evil that
- 31:55is terror that's targeting children It's designed to
- 31:59paralyze a society, you know, not this is
- 32:04not Proving who's right or who's wrong?
- 32:08It's this this isn't even war, you know
- 32:11It's the same mentality as putting bombs in
- 32:15school buses Or leaving toys rigged with explosives
- 32:18in the playground, you know, this is not
- 32:21Resistance it's not Heroism this is hatred, right?
- 32:26That's and so all over Russian TV, and
- 32:29I saw it in several different places They're
- 32:32using this story For you know now now
- 32:36it is I'm not saying this story is
- 32:39propaganda.
- 32:39The story is the story, but they're using
- 32:42it to push the line of thoughts they
- 32:44say This is why we are fighting this
- 32:49is who we are up against these are
- 32:52not just misguided people these are monsters Okay.
- 32:57Now that is quite extreme, right?
- 33:01I Mean, that's what you're saying about Ukrainians.
- 33:04Now.
- 33:04All Ukrainians aren't monsters all Ukrainians aren't misguided
- 33:09people all miss all Ukrainians aren't Capable of
- 33:14putting a bomb in the ground tying some
- 33:16dollars to it and blowing up a nine
- 33:18-year-old boy.
- 33:19That's just Evil.
- 33:21Okay, and so on the one hand we
- 33:25have Newscasters and people and I read to
- 33:28you a little bit about the Soloveyov show
- 33:30because it's an adult program They swear they
- 33:33say things like I said that, you know,
- 33:35they were calling people bastards for which and
- 33:37they were calling them You know Whores and
- 33:43they they say some bad things and on
- 33:45there sometimes, you know But but normally the
- 33:48swole which is about the worst as it
- 33:49gets but it's it's usually not too far
- 33:53And then they'll call him pederasty, which you
- 33:55know it that is a pederasty.
- 33:56They'll they'll call them, you know Stuff like
- 33:59that, but but generally it's not too bad,
- 34:02but they can say things as long as
- 34:04they say them about the enemy Okay You
- 34:08know it if you accept That framing that
- 34:13you convince yourself that your opponent delights in
- 34:16blowing up nine-year-olds Then suddenly every
- 34:19airstrike every missile every harsh law at home
- 34:22Appears justified.
- 34:24It's like us here in America they blew
- 34:27up the two towers, which which to me
- 34:29is probably more and more likely to me
- 34:32a Inside job of some sort, you know,
- 34:35I I don't accept that it would occur
- 34:38the way that they have it.
- 34:39I Need some far more convincing.
- 34:42So so somebody out there did that then
- 34:44and to use that to claim to steal
- 34:48from us the rights that they stole under
- 34:50the after I can't remember what it is
- 34:54anymore, but the Terrorism laws, you know where
- 34:58we give up certain rights and they create
- 35:01these Airline things and start to track everybody
- 35:05and track your phone and track this and
- 35:07track that We give these up these rights
- 35:11that we have to be not followed Unidentified
- 35:16because they've used that will other governments governments
- 35:19do the same thing Ukraine definitely does it
- 35:22you know, you don't have any freedom of
- 35:24speech over there But you can say things
- 35:26in Russia against the other side.
- 35:28And the only reason I bring that up
- 35:31is because suddenly every airstrike every Missile every
- 35:37harsh law just as justified.
- 35:39We're at war with monsters.
- 35:41We have to be harsh, right?
- 35:43So hold that picture in your mind a
- 35:45child a bank bit a fake banknote and
- 35:48an explosion.
- 35:49Okay, these are bad And now let's shift
- 35:53to Maria the girl.
- 35:54I was telling you about earlier and her
- 35:57name is Maria I can't remember.
- 36:03Yeah, it doesn't matter but a Russian name
- 36:05and and Maria Makhmutova and Maria Makhmutova is
- 36:11not a general not a politician not a
- 36:14billionaire.
- 36:14She's a 30-something blogger Living in a
- 36:18factory town in Siberia.
- 36:20I Was right.
- 36:21It was in June June the 12th Russia
- 36:24day the official line is be proud be
- 36:27grateful celebrate your country she picks up her
- 36:31smartphone and Records a furious little video, right?
- 36:37She looks into the camera and says What
- 36:40kind of holiday is Russia day supposed to
- 36:43be?
- 36:44What are you proud of?
- 36:46people are living in poverty sometimes you're scraping
- 36:50by You drown your problems in alcohol and
- 36:53you're supposed to be of good cheer because
- 36:55somebody hands you a flag and a slogan
- 36:57Then she goes further.
- 36:59She doesn't just attack the holiday She attacks
- 37:02the war and the people fighting it she
- 37:05says the only way many people can afford
- 37:09nice cars and Apartments is by going off
- 37:12to war to kill other people now I've
- 37:14told you they get paid some pretty good
- 37:16money to go and do that.
- 37:17It's a very well paid Job, and that
- 37:20is why they have people volunteering to go
- 37:24And she calls getting medals and decorations A
- 37:29Branding that they are branding and it's a
- 37:32mark that you are a killer.
- 37:34This is what she said on the on
- 37:36the Little video she posted and she says
- 37:40that the those medals will bring suffering to
- 37:43your own children later and then She dropped
- 37:48a line that really got her into trouble.
- 37:51This is the one that got her those
- 37:54other ones those were Minor okay, and well
- 37:59they were all relatively minor.
- 38:01I mean she wouldn't be jailed for this
- 38:03She would have been in trouble and she
- 38:04would have been sanctioned and but the likelihood
- 38:06of jail was pretty small but what she
- 38:09said was That if there's all the soldiers
- 38:12fighting in the special operations special military operation
- 38:16died tomorrow then she would sit back and
- 38:20pour herself a glass of wine and celebrate
- 38:24and She said that is not Under Russian
- 38:29law polite dissent, you know dissent of you
- 38:33know, what's going on?
- 38:34That isn't a careful academic critique of policy
- 38:38this is a raw and angry a deliberately
- 38:42offensive attack on soldiers and she is spitting
- 38:47on sacred symbols in a wartime society Patriotism
- 38:52sacrifice the army the dead so you can
- 38:56understand why a lot of ordinary people in
- 38:59Russia Some whose sons and husbands were over
- 39:02there hate her for it and they wanted
- 39:05to they wanted something to happen to her
- 39:07So the so-called Z activists there and
- 39:11that's what they call them a hardcore pro
- 39:14-war crowd Ripped the video spread it on
- 39:19their channels demanded punishment Tagged a prosecutor general's
- 39:24office the investigative committees they highlight the line
- 39:27about drinking wine of soldiers die and frame
- 39:31it as public approval of the death of
- 39:33our troops and Discrediting the army which is
- 39:37an insult to the memory of the falling
- 39:39fallen So the state the next day some
- 39:44the cops went to arrest her, okay And
- 39:48she was hit with an administrative charge.
- 39:50No, this is not a jailable deal, it's
- 39:53a fine, you know, and it's Discrediting the
- 39:57armed forces and she was fined 45,000
- 40:02rubles equivalent of A $4,500 something like
- 40:10that That's a lot of money over there
- 40:13and in court She said she'd been wrong
- 40:16and that she realized her mistake and that
- 40:18she wouldn't do it again so the it
- 40:22was Forced repentance, you know you stand there.
- 40:26Yeah.
- 40:26I mean we do the same thing over
- 40:28here.
- 40:28No judge.
- 40:29I'm sorry I won't do it again.
- 40:30I was a drunk driver and I'll never
- 40:33do it again, and I'm really sorry and
- 40:35or you know, geez, I I Don't know
- 40:40stole my grandmother's purse, you know, or somebody's
- 40:43grandmother's purse, but the story didn't stop there
- 40:46Okay, the story gets worse So according to
- 40:50the police during one of the proceedings After
- 40:54she'd gone into court right in the corridor
- 41:00Outside she lost her temper and got mad
- 41:03at one of the officers and she bit
- 41:05an officer Insulting him and biting him So
- 41:13assault on a police officer here.
- 41:15We do that crap.
- 41:16I mean they charge you with that all
- 41:18the time You know you say something better.
- 41:20Oh, geez.
- 41:20I've been assaulted.
- 41:21Yeah But over there, they don't wear 50
- 41:24pounds of SWAT gear.
- 41:26You know what I mean?
- 41:27You are an assault an officer over here
- 41:30That any way that they could feel it.
- 41:33Usually it's the other way around.
- 41:34They're beating this not out of you but
- 41:37they claim she bit him and You get
- 41:43charged with resisting arrest over here you Depending
- 41:47on what else you got along with it.
- 41:49Maybe you'll get probation.
- 41:51Maybe it's a criminal deal.
- 41:52Maybe it's misconduct If if it's something minor
- 41:57and nobody got seriously hurt, it's just another
- 41:59fine But in this climate in the climate
- 42:03in Russia, it turned into a full-blown
- 42:05criminal prosecution so now because they she bit
- 42:10him and used violence against the police she
- 42:14was sent to pretrial detention and She was
- 42:19sentenced to two years and seven months That's
- 42:25prison.
- 42:25That's not a fine.
- 42:27That isn't a warning.
- 42:28She went away She you know, she disappeared
- 42:30for close to three years and that just
- 42:33happened here in the last few weeks so
- 42:37whether you believe everything about the story or
- 42:41not, and I'm not saying I do because
- 42:43the there there's stuff that came from from
- 42:47various angles, I'm Much much much more of
- 42:51a middle-of-the-road Type both in
- 42:54the u.s. And in Russia, you know,
- 42:56I I don't think you should assault the
- 42:59police officer Okay, that's probably a bad plan
- 43:01no matter how you slice it and it
- 43:04is criminal in both countries You know, it's
- 43:07certainly criminal here and you won't get away
- 43:11with it.
- 43:11You know, and you're you you can't Assault
- 43:15him but you can't bite a police officer
- 43:17and pretend that nothing happened I don't know
- 43:20that you should get two years and seven
- 43:22months for it but Okay, you know I
- 43:27You know different strokes for different folks.
- 43:30I've told you before that in Russia People
- 43:35who kill get less time than people who
- 43:38deal drugs I Always thought that was a
- 43:41bit odd, but it but it's definitely true
- 43:44so my middle-of-the-road position says,
- 43:47you know, I'm much more giving this to
- 43:50you to to a Food for thought as
- 43:55it were do I think it's disgusting to
- 43:57raise a glass to the hypothetical death of
- 44:00thousands of soldiers?
- 44:02many of whom may have been You know
- 44:07A Thinking twice after they sign the contract,
- 44:11you know, so yes, I do Do I
- 44:14think her comments are cruel to mothers and
- 44:17families who lost someone I sure do Would
- 44:21would anybody invite her to speak at a
- 44:24memorial event?
- 44:25probably not but I suppose the hard part
- 44:30is Having grown up in America and knowing
- 44:35what I know about freedom of speech It
- 44:39is not whether we tolerate polite well-reasoned
- 44:44and respectful opinions the test of free speech
- 44:48is Whether you can tolerate the ugly ones
- 44:53the ones we hate the one that makes
- 44:57our blood boil Because here the rule is
- 45:02you can say what you want But if
- 45:05the rule happens to be you can say
- 45:07what you want as long as it doesn't
- 45:10offend the army the government a church an
- 45:15activist Donald Trump anybody but a private party
- 45:20has has a private recourse if you say
- 45:22something untruthful about someone They can sue you,
- 45:26you know if they if they change the
- 45:29story before they put it on the BBC
- 45:31You can sue them for that, you know,
- 45:34if it's if it misrepresents what you were
- 45:36saying there then then but if you Just
- 45:42think that something is is is ugly now.
- 45:45Are you attacking someone specifically when you say?
- 45:49I wish all these people were dead No,
- 45:53you're you're you're you know, you're you but
- 45:56it's definitely offensive and I don't know that
- 46:00I mean freedom of speech doesn't exist in
- 46:03a lot of places anymore and there are
- 46:06rules when you know that you have to
- 46:09societal rules that you got to learn to
- 46:11live by but Freedom of speech doesn't mean
- 46:15I can tell lies about you You know
- 46:17that you can sue me for that right
- 46:20but there's I can say it sure I
- 46:23have the freedom to say whatever the hell
- 46:24I want if it's untruthful somebody can sue
- 46:28me and Financially is the way to get
- 46:31those people.
- 46:32I don't think I should be thrown in
- 46:34jail for something I said, you know, I've
- 46:36said some some things On this program that
- 46:40perhaps might might not be all that favorable
- 46:44to Some folks versus others, you know what
- 46:47I mean, and I don't want to Encourage
- 46:51anyone to do that any sort of thing.
- 46:53So the Russian state Looks at a nine
- 46:57-year-old gets blown up and says we
- 46:59need harsher law harsher punishment less tolerance For
- 47:03those that might undermine our war effort and
- 47:05we got to do something about these people
- 47:08Putting dollar bills on in it in in
- 47:11but they allow People in Public commentary spaces
- 47:19like TV Radio to say horrible things about
- 47:26other People in other countries and you know
- 47:31swole itchy and stuff like that all those
- 47:33other words But you can't let a girl
- 47:35say, you know, if everybody died tomorrow, I'd
- 47:38like to sit down and have a drink
- 47:40of wine I think that's offensive and I
- 47:42don't like it but as an American I
- 47:45have a different point of view in Russia.
- 47:47You're not supposed to say during wartime anything
- 47:50that is Negative It's not really the right
- 47:58word and I'm not reading and I didn't
- 48:00pull pull up the law in specifics, but
- 48:03you can't you can't Publicly demean what what
- 48:07is going on?
- 48:08You have you're you're not allowed You know
- 48:11and same same in Ukraine.
- 48:13I mean they have similar Similar.
- 48:15Well, it's more harsh in Ukraine to be
- 48:18frank, but I don't know But if you
- 48:21lump a bloggers ugly rant in with like
- 48:24terrorism and sabotage If you treat words as
- 48:28a kind of bomb that has to be
- 48:30you know Given a prison sentence.
- 48:34I mean it's not but if she went
- 48:36to prison for biting a policeman You've cropped
- 48:40because she was only fined well only she
- 48:43was fined the 45,000 I'd be pissed
- 48:45off, too were you gonna come up with
- 48:48that as a blogger in a in a
- 48:51factory town But I don't know if you're
- 48:55defending people from violence at that point or
- 48:58if you're defending your image from being Embarrassed,
- 49:01I don't know but let's not pretend that
- 49:04we're a whole lot better here in the
- 49:05West We might not be jailing people For
- 49:09discrediting the army, but we destroy people's lives
- 49:12for saying the wrong thing We people shoot
- 49:17other people because they disagree with them We
- 49:21don't always send you to a penal colony.
- 49:23We send you to a digital wilderness You
- 49:27lose your job.
- 49:28Your bank account is drained.
- 49:30You know, you lose money.
- 49:31You lose a Platform, do you know trying
- 49:34to watch this of Vladimir Solovyov show?
- 49:37It gets deleted all the time by YouTube
- 49:40says it violates YouTube policy so when it
- 49:45comes up I try to download it as
- 49:47quick as possible and watch it and Because
- 49:51it's hard to it's hard to watch because
- 49:53they always delete it and because they don't
- 49:56agree with what he's saying So you can't
- 49:58watch Mmm News and comment from other countries
- 50:04in America.
- 50:05Tell me that's freedom of speech because it's
- 50:07not and so What are you afraid of?
- 50:11You know, what what words are you specifically
- 50:14afraid of you know?
- 50:18I Don't know what's right or what's wrong
- 50:21as far as Different systems.
- 50:24I know in our system.
- 50:26You're able to say stuff I want to
- 50:29talk about a little bit more about this
- 50:32little prick who Because I hate this topic
- 50:37to you know, war is ugly war is
- 50:39nasty I hate everything about it, but you
- 50:42know if you're gonna talk about the war
- 50:45and how it needs to end, you know
- 50:46like an adult You don't get a look
- 50:49away when it's ugly and I've watched You
- 50:52know I told you the one last week
- 50:53about the Ukrainian drones blowing up the guy
- 50:56that's on his knees praying and is clearly
- 50:58a civilian and They blew up the guy
- 51:01and his dog right before that it were
- 51:03two guy and a dog walking down the
- 51:05street He blew up the first one hit
- 51:06him in the chest with a drone and
- 51:09a third drone was up there filming it
- 51:10all So, I don't know we got one
- 51:14captured Ukrainian soldier on a Russian Interrogation video
- 51:22sitting there and calmly describing how his unit
- 51:25went house-to-house House with orders to
- 51:28not leave anyone alive Nobody can be left
- 51:30alive and we went through that the girl
- 51:33named Nadia The men beaten and then shot
- 51:36the women raped and then murdered elderly people
- 51:39Driven in the basement killed with grenades and
- 51:42then a repeat visit to clean up any
- 51:45survivors That alone should be enough to make
- 51:49you sick but You know the Russians take
- 51:54this video On the Solovyov show and they
- 51:57go see this is who we are fighting.
- 51:59These are not just soldiers These are terrorists
- 52:02and there can be no mercy Now Solovyov
- 52:07is a bit on the extreme side, you
- 52:08know, he's I Don't want to call his
- 52:14show entertaining but I Like to get the
- 52:19other perspective, you know, and he's doing it
- 52:22for entertainment.
- 52:23He's doing it because he's being graphic He's
- 52:26doing it because he's in some ways Offensive
- 52:31and people that's how I mean he's been
- 52:33doing it for so long in this way
- 52:35It's kind of like how did Howard Stern
- 52:38get famous, you know by being a pig,
- 52:41you know, there was a story I don't
- 52:43know if it's true or not, but I
- 52:44believe that he was a Washington DC radio
- 52:50shock jock in Washington DC and I remember
- 52:53when that plane took off from Reagan National
- 52:56and went up and there was ice on
- 52:58its wings and It crashed into the Potomac,
- 53:01you know And all those people were dying
- 53:04and they were you know They were trying
- 53:05to get in and rescue him or something
- 53:07and I think they all died.
- 53:09I don't remember and then Allegedly the story
- 53:13goes and I don't know that it's true
- 53:14or not, but this is the way I
- 53:15always heard it was that he called whatever
- 53:20airline it was the next morning and asked
- 53:22how much it was for a ticket from
- 53:25Washington National to the Potomac Bridge That that
- 53:31would cost him his job and is what
- 53:33I heard in Washington DC and I don't
- 53:37know the truth of that or not, but
- 53:38I remember Hearing that on more than one
- 53:42occasion when I lived in Washington, DC And
- 53:45I never really cared for the guy anyway,
- 53:47cuz he just too offensive, but he was
- 53:50more just gross, you know So if you
- 53:52have his political Bashing of the other side
- 53:58and and that is you know gladiator sport
- 54:02in my In my opinion, so I don't
- 54:05mind it that much and calling somebody a
- 54:07bastard is not That's not the end of
- 54:10the world and Anyway, once you start everybody,
- 54:15you know, once you can label everybody in
- 54:18Ukraine a terrorist instead of an enemy soldier
- 54:22Anything that you do to them is easily
- 54:24justified just like here in the US if
- 54:27you can call everybody that wears a turban
- 54:30a terrorist Well, you can justify taking rights
- 54:35away from Americans to stop terrorism So let's
- 54:40see this on paper under the Geneva Convention
- 54:43Captured fighters on the other side.
- 54:45There are prisoners of war you can interrogate
- 54:48him You can hold him, but you don't
- 54:49get to put him on trial Just for
- 54:51being on the other side of the front
- 54:53line if he's accused of a specific war
- 54:56crime That's another matter.
- 54:59So the West we claim that that's a
- 55:04blur of the line, but Raping of civilians
- 55:07is is his is and has been a
- 55:11violation of law in the country you're in
- 55:14for years, so if they if they take
- 55:17this guy and Send him to prison for
- 55:22for you know, rape and murder He deserves
- 55:26it, you know, and I hope they do
- 55:27frankly But on our sides, there's supposedly a
- 55:32recent analysis that counted 145 people so far
- 55:37and I I saw this somewhere in a
- 55:39in a Russian Publication too, but I don't
- 55:43remember when and I can't I couldn't find
- 55:46it when I wouldn't have to look for
- 55:47it But they say that there were a
- 55:49hundred and people hundred forty five people that
- 55:51have been given prison time in Russia in
- 55:54the first half of this year based on
- 55:59Crimes created during war like rape like murder
- 56:03of civilians that kind of thing and that
- 56:06includes around 60 of these Ukrainian POWs that
- 56:10were tried under criminal law or terrorist Acts
- 56:15rather than being treated as prisoners of war
- 56:19About 49 of those were captured in the
- 56:23Western Kursk region Now Russia had said anybody
- 56:27we capture over here in Kursk that is
- 56:29across, you know That is on our land.
- 56:32We are taking what they are fighting in
- 56:36Ukraine is disputed territory where all of the
- 56:43six places with you start with Crimea all
- 56:50of the six places have declared themselves as
- 56:55Subject, you know, they've asked to be they
- 56:58had referenda and asked to be part of
- 57:00Russia so the people say they're part of
- 57:04Russia and Russia is fighting to enforce that
- 57:07so Their point of view if you are
- 57:11coming into places that are clearly Russia York,
- 57:16that's a crime and that makes sense if
- 57:19you're in Zaporizhia or you're in the Donbass,
- 57:23which is Donetsk and Lugansk or if you're
- 57:25in Crimea or you're in Nikolaev up Oh,
- 57:28they haven't gone in Nikolaev yet.
- 57:30But but if you're in any one of
- 57:31these Zaporizhia, let's say Those are disputed territories.
- 57:37That's where the war is going on and
- 57:39it's going on because it's disputed territory but
- 57:43Kursk is a Russian Obelisk it's a Region
- 57:49inside of Russia.
- 57:51So if you're going over there and starting
- 57:54to fight with people, I don't It doesn't
- 57:58surprise me that they're being charged criminally is
- 58:01what I'm saying But those that are captured
- 58:04in Donetsk Lugansk is a pretty person those
- 58:08places those people should be Under a Geneva
- 58:14Convention and that's that but if you're in
- 58:18Kursk, you know, there's paperwork, you know That's
- 58:21the trail and that's what they said they
- 58:22were doing.
- 58:23Let's give you an example from last year
- 58:25Ukrainian citizen named Sergei Kaz karamazin a Russian
- 58:30military court gave him 25 years in prison.
- 58:34They accused him of railway sabotage Remember, these
- 58:37are the guys that blew up the railway
- 58:38that Brew up a bridge under a railway
- 58:41inside of Kursk But they're saying it's because
- 58:45you're on Russian territory, you know, those other
- 58:48territories are are Disputed and there you know,
- 58:53that's war that's different but here in Kursk,
- 58:57that's railway sabotage planning terrorist attacks inside of
- 59:01Russia, so according to independent reporting he he
- 59:06might not have had a good lawyer, but
- 59:09But everything else, you know, he did check
- 59:14every box on terrorism clandestine training sabotage Conspiracy,
- 59:19you know, look what just happened in Rostov
- 59:21-on-Don a Russian court sentenced 15 captured
- 59:26fighters from the IDAR battalion to between 15
- 59:31and 21 years each in a high-security
- 59:34colony They're labeled as member to members of
- 59:38a banned terrorist organization and trying to violently
- 59:42overthrow Russia's constitutional order based on actions back
- 59:47to 2014 to 2022 in the Donbass Okay,
- 59:53but the Donbass first tried to declare itself
- 59:56free in 2014 I believe and That's when
- 1:00:02Ukraine started killing all of them so that
- 1:00:05then they are when when Donbass was taken
- 1:00:08by the Russians they arrested these people and
- 1:00:11Charged him with crimes back then.
- 1:00:13I'm not so positive.
- 1:00:14I agree with that, you know because until
- 1:00:17the referendums that occurred in 2022 Those Places
- 1:00:23were not in the Russian Constitution We're not
- 1:00:27Russian territories or they weren't even disputed territories
- 1:00:31at then because Russia wasn't trying to enforce
- 1:00:33it So those were still Ukrainian I'm not
- 1:00:36sure I agree with that but not for
- 1:00:39me to agree or disagree who really cares
- 1:00:41if I do or don't but the pattern
- 1:00:43that you see is They're Catching Ukrainian terrorists
- 1:00:49in Kursk and Belgrade Bryansk Donbass and so
- 1:00:53in the courtroom that translates to criminal charges
- 1:00:56sabotage espionage terrorism and Sentences that you know
- 1:01:02are pretty harsh Does that mean every accusation,
- 1:01:07you know, it is false and these guys
- 1:01:09know it doesn't it's just a question of
- 1:01:11how they're prosecuting it There's no question that
- 1:01:14these Ukrainian special units were operating inside of
- 1:01:17Russia and even Kiev admits that they're sabotage
- 1:01:22Experts in Belgrade and Kursk still so That
- 1:01:27that's what they're doing if they get caught,
- 1:01:29you know, they know that they're gonna be
- 1:01:31charged under Russian law They've been saying that
- 1:01:33forever.
- 1:01:34They're not this is not war if it
- 1:01:36occurs inside of Russia Said and they've always
- 1:01:40said it I'm not saying they're right.
- 1:01:41I'm just saying that's what they've said.
- 1:01:44So You shell a Russian city.
- 1:01:47That's terrorism.
- 1:01:48You crossed the border as with a rifle
- 1:01:51as part of a raid, you know Maybe
- 1:01:53that's terrorism too.
- 1:01:54It's certainly a crime under Russian law so
- 1:01:58Let's go to the confession video in that
- 1:02:01that That moron who his boss told her
- 1:02:07his commander told him to rape a girl
- 1:02:10and so he did There's an unlimited Supply
- 1:02:15of these sorts of horror stories.
- 1:02:17That's for sure.
- 1:02:18So they Have plenty of there's plenty of
- 1:02:23telegram videos about these case after case bombings
- 1:02:29Assassinations attacks on bloggers attacks on Russia, you
- 1:02:33know some of the you know, a lot
- 1:02:36of the cases are real and Once you
- 1:02:43accept that the enemy is capable of those
- 1:02:48crimes though Bearing a bomb under a bank
- 1:02:53note for a child in Moscow or ordering
- 1:02:56a platoon to wipe out a village cellar
- 1:02:58full of old people Then you Tend to
- 1:03:03believe everything that anybody throws at you.
- 1:03:06We do the same thing here our our
- 1:03:10Propaganda machine does the same thing?
- 1:03:12So there was a lady who?
- 1:03:18Lady a girl there were several of these
- 1:03:21that were floating around last year that were
- 1:03:24shooting Russian POWs and the legs Beating on
- 1:03:28them urinating on them some of them were
- 1:03:32serious enough that That Kiev said they would
- 1:03:36investigate but you don't see much of it
- 1:03:42Let's see there was Allegedly a Wikipedia one
- 1:03:51showed that a Ukrainian POW Was also killed
- 1:03:56by some Russian forces back in 2022 But
- 1:04:05I couldn't find the ones of these Of
- 1:04:10the women that were so harsh to the
- 1:04:13men and the Russian Russian video shows them
- 1:04:17being Telegram showed some of them being picked
- 1:04:21up.
- 1:04:21So there's a There have been in Russia
- 1:04:27quite a few of these sentences on 20
- 1:04:29years 20 plus years of some of these
- 1:04:33people who are blowing some of these things
- 1:04:35up so I tell you what, like I
- 1:04:38said, I don't like this subject because You
- 1:04:43know their various extremes One one side on
- 1:04:49the extreme says, you know Everything Ukrainian is
- 1:04:53pure and noble and every Allegation is you
- 1:04:58know, nothing but propaganda and the other side
- 1:05:02are criminals and animals you know, that's what
- 1:05:05they say, but both sides are Guilty of
- 1:05:08the same thing.
- 1:05:09So Those are fantasies I Just want you
- 1:05:15to remember what we talked about Earlier the
- 1:05:18nine-year-old boy in Moscow getting blown
- 1:05:20up by a fake fake banknote bomb that's
- 1:05:25that's crap and Not that horrible things don't
- 1:05:32occur every day all over the world.
- 1:05:35But you know, this is nonsense You know
- 1:05:39everybody that Every person every fighter is not
- 1:05:45a Nadia killer Nadia rapist a basement grenade
- 1:05:49thrower a banknote bomber, you know, they're not
- 1:05:52but you don't If you know these people
- 1:05:58or you come upon them during war I
- 1:06:01got news for you You don't you don't
- 1:06:03negotiate with them.
- 1:06:04You don't think of them as soldiers you
- 1:06:07don't even think about them as people you
- 1:06:09take action and But we do we do
- 1:06:14a lot of the same thing on on
- 1:06:17as far as a discussion or politicization of
- 1:06:24such Events.
- 1:06:27Okay.
- 1:06:27I wanted to make sure that that got
- 1:06:30put out and I have a huge list
- 1:06:35of church that churches that were Taken you
- 1:06:41know Because I researched quite a bit of
- 1:06:44that, but I don't know that I'm gonna
- 1:06:47Go that far through them.
- 1:06:50I think I'm gonna skip that part because
- 1:06:53we covered a lot of a lot of
- 1:06:56the churches, you know, but they're saying that
- 1:06:59when Ukraine was backing out of these villages
- 1:07:04Especially in the Kursk region again 28 villages
- 1:07:0826 churches killing all of the residents Blowing
- 1:07:14up their churches and taking all of their
- 1:07:19religious symbols and very valuable items from that
- 1:07:26You know It's I Think I've gone through
- 1:07:31there.
- 1:07:32I wanted to talk about this tons of
- 1:07:34money.
- 1:07:34I heard an interesting Another discussion on Solovyov
- 1:07:38And from there's a guy that I like
- 1:07:41to listen to and Solovyov never lets him
- 1:07:44talk He interrupts him all the time and
- 1:07:48he interrupts him worse than he interrupts everybody
- 1:07:52else There's something about this guy and he
- 1:07:55always makes him go last This guy always
- 1:07:58shows up.
- 1:07:59He's a lawyer And he Was on On
- 1:08:05the Kiev side.
- 1:08:06He was he was a I don't want
- 1:08:09to say he was an advisor to Zelensky
- 1:08:11but he was attached somehow to the Zelensky
- 1:08:14government when back in 2021-22 When I
- 1:08:21was watching quite a bit of this and
- 1:08:24the abuse that he took At the hands
- 1:08:27of Solovyov was you know, he's he's pretty
- 1:08:30brave for just showing up.
- 1:08:32I thought and But he and he still
- 1:08:35shows up, but I don't think he can
- 1:08:36go back to Ukraine now because he's been
- 1:08:39you know there were I heard some some
- 1:08:42of the comments that he said that he's
- 1:08:44not allowed to go back because he hasn't
- 1:08:46Because he's not allowed this freedom of speech
- 1:08:49stuff And so they got to talking about
- 1:08:52the corruption in in Ukraine the story I've
- 1:08:55been talking about with Mindich the wallet for
- 1:08:58wallet for Zelensky Escape into Israel and they
- 1:09:03were talking about how everybody has been doing
- 1:09:07this Forever and they were talking about there's
- 1:09:11so much money floating around Ukraine If you're
- 1:09:16in the right circles that they're weighing the
- 1:09:19dollars by How heavy you know how many
- 1:09:23how much how much money you can?
- 1:09:27How did they put it?
- 1:09:29How much does a million dollars weigh and
- 1:09:32and he put it out specifically he said
- 1:09:35one u.s. Bank It's simple math.
- 1:09:39All right, so let's talk about this and
- 1:09:41It's something a lot of people pretend is
- 1:09:44complicated, but it's pretty simple It's money piles
- 1:09:47of money tons of it enough money that
- 1:09:49you don't even get to talk about it
- 1:09:51in thousands or millions Anymore you talk about
- 1:09:54it in tons and this they were talking
- 1:09:57about it for like a half an hour
- 1:09:58And it was a very interesting segment, and
- 1:10:01I liked watching it.
- 1:10:03So I kind of paraphrased it here for
- 1:10:04you it says so the guy the the
- 1:10:09Ukrainian lawyer that I was telling you about
- 1:10:12He says do you know how much or
- 1:10:16do you know what a hundred million dollars
- 1:10:18looks like in cash?
- 1:10:21and The answer is if you do if
- 1:10:24you can do the math is one u
- 1:10:26.s. Bank note weighs one gram So put
- 1:10:31it in all hundred dollar bills and 100
- 1:10:34million dollars is a million bank notes and
- 1:10:38a million grams is a Thousand kilograms or
- 1:10:43one metric ton and that's not a metaphor.
- 1:10:46That's math, right?
- 1:10:47So when they talk about the first hundred
- 1:10:51million that this Mindich Grafted In this, you
- 1:10:57know in this particular Ukrainian corruption case They
- 1:11:01always you know, there's there's tons of these
- 1:11:03cases What they're really saying is we're not
- 1:11:07arguing about a few envelopes of cash We're
- 1:11:10talking about a literal ton of money and
- 1:11:13right now Ukraine is serving up even more
- 1:11:17fresh examples right on our dinner platter.
- 1:11:21Yes a hundred million dollar Energo atom scandal
- 1:11:26in the middle of the war and so
- 1:11:29this National Corruption Bureau that they are talking
- 1:11:32about the suppliers paid the 10 to 15
- 1:11:35percent that I told you about and So
- 1:11:41People are acting shocked like how could this
- 1:11:44happen during a war, you know Give me
- 1:11:46a break about all this Ukraine didn't just
- 1:11:48suddenly become corrupt in 2022 it was corrupt
- 1:11:52the entire time.
- 1:11:54In fact money was the entire point of
- 1:11:57his campaign and You know, what is interesting
- 1:12:01to me and I think if you're listening
- 1:12:05to me right now You really ought to
- 1:12:08think about this Donald Trump hasn't said a
- 1:12:12word about the hundred million dollar scandal with
- 1:12:18Zelensky There are rumors there are whisperings that
- 1:12:26the FBI is involved when with and help
- 1:12:31this naboo this anti-corruption deal in Ukraine
- 1:12:35to find the money What if this is
- 1:12:40the old Trumpsters way of getting rid of
- 1:12:45or Forcing the Z man to do something
- 1:12:50now, I could actually see that being the
- 1:12:54case Um, I know that he probably would
- 1:12:57like to get rid of Zelensky.
- 1:12:59Anyway, he's he's said a couple of times
- 1:13:02that he you know He's called What did
- 1:13:07he call him the dictator who never leaves
- 1:13:10the Martial law guy who isn't who isn't
- 1:13:14wanting to get out that kind of thing
- 1:13:18You know Mr. Trump or president Trump mr.
- 1:13:24Tactful He's so very tactful said the UN
- 1:13:28that Ukraine was one of the most corrupt
- 1:13:31countries in the world Yeah, and it wasn't
- 1:13:35exactly controversial was it Everybody knows it and
- 1:13:40I mean Biden went over there and collected
- 1:13:42his pile of money because that's how you
- 1:13:44do it You go to Ukraine you get
- 1:13:46your pile of money because that's how the
- 1:13:49game is played and it's not small money
- 1:13:52It's not like you're picking up 10,000.
- 1:13:55You're getting 10 million.
- 1:13:56You know, it's it's this is not small
- 1:13:59and that's what the Solovey of was saying
- 1:14:02look It was kind of funny because he
- 1:14:07said he goes look here here in Russia
- 1:14:10they catch corruption ears or whatever they call
- 1:14:13them and These corruption ears they're taken, you
- 1:14:17know, and when somebody steals something they take
- 1:14:19they don't steal the whole cake They take
- 1:14:22a tiny little bite, you know, it's kind
- 1:14:24of the metaphor.
- 1:14:25He was using he said not so in
- 1:14:28Ukraine You know half the cake is gone
- 1:14:32or all of it and You know the
- 1:14:34the crumbs actually are what's left for the
- 1:14:37people who are supposed to get the benefit
- 1:14:39of the contract or the deal?
- 1:14:41And but the everything else is given to
- 1:14:43corruption so 90% goes corruption 10%
- 1:14:47goes to the the place it's supposed to
- 1:14:49be and You know, there's been defense procurement
- 1:14:52scandals 2022-23 and even 24 Inflated food
- 1:14:57equipment contracts.
- 1:14:58I told y'all about the other day
- 1:15:00that blew up bad enough to cost Alexei
- 1:15:04Reznik of his job the defense minister there's
- 1:15:07been tons of smaller scandals at regional military
- 1:15:11recruitment offices the one where the Commander is
- 1:15:16sending his subordinates to his wife's Shashliki she
- 1:15:21was selling little Her little Shish kebabs a
- 1:15:28little little kebab shop that she was selling
- 1:15:30things And so his soldiers were going to
- 1:15:34work for his wife and they then they
- 1:15:36were splitting their money There's talks about all
- 1:15:40of the money that they're supposed to deliver
- 1:15:42to a dead soldiers Family that the commanders
- 1:15:46were taking parts of it in order to
- 1:15:48make sure the family got it They would
- 1:15:51say, you know, it'll take you a year
- 1:15:53to get it But if you give me
- 1:15:55a tenth of it, then you 10%
- 1:15:57of it, then I'll make sure you get
- 1:15:59it I mean there's been so many of
- 1:16:01them.
- 1:16:01It's not it's it's crazy.
- 1:16:03We've moved from rotten eggs to Energy ministers,
- 1:16:08but it's the same deal.
- 1:16:10You know, it's 100 million dollars is not
- 1:16:12pocket change it's a ton of money and
- 1:16:15You know same same ballpark is the ton
- 1:16:19of money that Soloviev's dude was talking about
- 1:16:22so Western countries pour money in military financial
- 1:16:28humanitarian the money hits the ministry state countries
- 1:16:33contractors and a percentage gets peeled off into
- 1:16:36shell companies consultancies fake invoices and discounts that
- 1:16:43are really bribes and Then when it when
- 1:16:46it does burst into the open Politicians throw
- 1:16:49one or two people under the bus and
- 1:16:51say look how serious we are about fighting
- 1:16:53corruption That's how it goes now Soloviev was
- 1:16:59saying Yeah, but you guys on the West
- 1:17:02you're the masters of corruption I mean you
- 1:17:06guys make make Russia look like pikers and
- 1:17:09you know, who is the guy?
- 1:17:12Zelensky a Zelensky Defender today, it works for
- 1:17:18Zelensky.
- 1:17:19I forget his name.
- 1:17:20I can't find it.
- 1:17:20It might come up here later in my
- 1:17:23scrolling Excuse me a little tired little late
- 1:17:26for me He said he said, you know
- 1:17:31corruption in Ukraine This is an interesting argument.
- 1:17:35I mean this could this could really be
- 1:17:37the case Ukraine was so long under the
- 1:17:42USSR's boot from 20 or from 1917 until
- 1:17:501991 they were under the boot of the
- 1:17:54USSR for so long That they don't know
- 1:17:58any better.
- 1:17:59They're corrupt because the Soviet Union was corrupt.
- 1:18:02That's what he said Does that make any
- 1:18:06sense at all none of those people were
- 1:18:08a lot I mean geez the people who
- 1:18:10are stealing everything weren't even alive then it's
- 1:18:13nonsense But you know, whatever sound sounds good,
- 1:18:17I suppose Everything's blamed on Russia Russia Russia
- 1:18:23Russia Ukrainian corruption is now blamed on Russia
- 1:18:27hmm Hmm curious well This ton of money
- 1:18:34has kind of got me all worked up.
- 1:18:37Let's talk about the The pallets of cash
- 1:18:42in the lost Billions, remember if you think
- 1:18:45this is just Ukrainian pathology, let's zoom out
- 1:18:49a tiny bit, right?
- 1:18:51the US special inspector general for Afghanistan reconstruction
- 1:18:59has spent years Documenting what happened to Western
- 1:19:05money during the 20-year Afghanistan adventures so
- 1:19:11there was billions of dollars spent on reconstruction
- 1:19:15assets buildings vehicles Projects that were never used
- 1:19:23Abandoned or quickly fell apart one review found
- 1:19:28that 2.4 Billion dollars was wasted out
- 1:19:34of 7.8 billion examined That is almost
- 1:19:41a third of the money There was massive
- 1:19:46overhead costs that were skimmed by org by
- 1:19:51international organizations that acted as middlemen that took
- 1:19:556 to 14 percent for quote management and
- 1:20:03when Kabul finally collapsed Tens of millions of
- 1:20:08dollars simply disappeared from government accounts in all
- 1:20:12the chaos tens of millions We've seen all
- 1:20:17the pallets remember these photos of pallets being
- 1:20:21rolled off cargo planes in Iraq and Afghanistan
- 1:20:25That's not a metaphor.
- 1:20:26That's physical Pallets of cash that were accounted
- 1:20:31for on paper, but are nowhere to be
- 1:20:34found in reality This is we are the
- 1:20:39masters, you know, and you can't blame Russia
- 1:20:41for this We did this we taught Ukraine
- 1:20:46how to do it not Russia and Ukraine
- 1:20:50Already was pretty gifted.
- 1:20:52Let's say that they knew exactly what they
- 1:20:55were doing.
- 1:20:55So When I look at Ukraine I see
- 1:21:00a hundred million in alleged bribes at inner
- 1:21:03go at him multi-billion dollar fraud at
- 1:21:07Privat Bank defense procurement scams Biden era nonsense
- 1:21:14US Agency for International Development Lindsey Graham running
- 1:21:19over to Kiev to promise more money then,
- 1:21:23you know Western politicians promising another package of
- 1:21:29money for Ukraine another tranche of money another
- 1:21:34set of Guarantees, I don't hear.
- 1:21:37Well, maybe we've learned from Afghanistan Maybe we've
- 1:21:42learned from my rack So instead this is
- 1:21:46Afghanistan 2.0 Iraq 3.0 with just
- 1:21:50better PR and a blue and yellow filter
- 1:21:54We get white people instead of you know,
- 1:21:59those other types those those brown-skinned people
- 1:22:02and So so now we can't find them
- 1:22:06guilty because they're more like us, right?
- 1:22:10But all this is the same Scam been
- 1:22:14going on being pulled by the same people
- 1:22:17for the for forever Who really ends up
- 1:22:22with the money?
- 1:22:23The same old people end up with the
- 1:22:27money the here's the right of part the
- 1:22:29Russian talking heads Like Solovyov they love this
- 1:22:32and they're not wrong They say you sent
- 1:22:36Ukraine hundreds of billions of dollars Part of
- 1:22:39it gets stolen by the local elite part
- 1:22:42of it ends up back in your own
- 1:22:44hands You know your your own leaders some
- 1:22:47of the stolen in and money ends up
- 1:22:50in London real estate Cyprus accounts Miami condos
- 1:22:53Delaware LLC's Years later Western regulators wake up
- 1:23:02and say boy what a bunch of corruption
- 1:23:04The assets are frozen.
- 1:23:07The properties are taken and it all ends
- 1:23:09right back in Western hands Look at let's
- 1:23:16look at hola Moise key member hola Moise
- 1:23:18key.
- 1:23:18He's the guy who opened the Privet Bank
- 1:23:20He's the guy who helped start Kvartal 95
- 1:23:23He's the guy who funded Zelensky as a
- 1:23:26as a servant of the people He did
- 1:23:28that okay, and he stole all this money
- 1:23:31from the Kiev government through private bank Allegedly,
- 1:23:35he washed all the money through properties He
- 1:23:38owned in the US and in the West
- 1:23:40and now the US is seizing those same
- 1:23:42assets piece by piece And who's gonna get
- 1:23:45them?
- 1:23:47The United States so their money goes into
- 1:23:50private bank He takes the money then he
- 1:23:53buys property in the US and then the
- 1:23:55DOJ sees it back so who pays the
- 1:23:57pays the price US taxpayers and Alleged Ukrainian
- 1:24:04Beneficiaries that are supposed to get something out
- 1:24:07of it right and nobody did Who's supposed
- 1:24:13to uphold the law and you know nobody?
- 1:24:16You know the London Court orders billions repaid
- 1:24:20to private bank, right?
- 1:24:22So private bank has to get the money
- 1:24:24back nice headline But the real problem never
- 1:24:27ever changes the system allows the scale of
- 1:24:31the theft up front Decades later there might
- 1:24:35be some judgments So when when I and
- 1:24:39when Solovyov and when the Ukrainian lawyer talk
- 1:24:42about a ton of money They aren't just
- 1:24:44playing with numbers.
- 1:24:45I mean you need to visualize this think
- 1:24:47about this one ton of cash Peeled off
- 1:24:51of energy contracts while the grids get bombed
- 1:24:55several tons worth of siphoned out of a
- 1:24:57national bank and parked in Western properties an
- 1:25:01entire cargo plane of taxpayer money that left
- 1:25:07Washington to promote democracy in Afghanistan and Ukraine
- 1:25:13and ends up in somebody's new villa, and
- 1:25:17we don't get any of it back I
- 1:25:21Don't think Ukraine needs any support.
- 1:25:24I think we cut off The corrupt government,
- 1:25:27but the problem is if we cut off
- 1:25:29every corrupt government on earth then The Pentagon
- 1:25:34half of DC would be you know on
- 1:25:38the food lines You know because we'd have
- 1:25:40to cut them off, but let's stop lying
- 1:25:42to ourselves though Ukraine Corruption is not a
- 1:25:47myth It's baked into every single case we
- 1:25:51talk about and it's spilling out just more
- 1:25:55and more During this war the West loves
- 1:25:59this model because it allows our Elitists to
- 1:26:05use our Hillary Clinton's to give her daughter.
- 1:26:08What was it 85 million through USAID?
- 1:26:11You know the West loves this pour in
- 1:26:13money look away while people skim it off,
- 1:26:16and then come back later and Accused somebody
- 1:26:19after it's too late.
- 1:26:20They've been able to to park the money
- 1:26:23places.
- 1:26:23It's not able to be touched Yeah, that's
- 1:26:26that's the business cycle That's how it works
- 1:26:28and third the people that pay for this
- 1:26:31ordinary people Ukrainians Russians Americans Europeans are the
- 1:26:36ones paying for the ton of cash whether
- 1:26:39it's taxes inflation or dead relatives, so when
- 1:26:44you hear Politicians Political commentators Anybody
- 1:26:54any officials talk about a Hundred million dollar
- 1:26:58irregularity In your head you should translate it
- 1:27:02the translate it to well We're talking about
- 1:27:05a literal ton of money that went somewhere
- 1:27:08where it shouldn't have Whose kids are gonna
- 1:27:12pay for that money, we don't know where's
- 1:27:16it gonna happen?
- 1:27:17We don't know And the fact is it
- 1:27:22is going to continue That's what I say
- 1:27:25it will continue Let's see if I can
- 1:27:31fit in one more topic.
- 1:27:33I don't think I can We are almost
- 1:27:37out of time.
- 1:27:38I wanted to talk about Bezrukov tonight, but
- 1:27:41it looks like I'm gonna save him tomorrow
- 1:27:43But we've gone from a nine-year-old
- 1:27:46boy being blown up to soldiers confessing about
- 1:27:49rape and murder churches being shelled Tons of
- 1:27:53money Angelina Jolie in a flak vest and
- 1:27:59I Wanted to get to Andre Bezrukov, and
- 1:28:05he's he's a pretty interesting, dude Same movie
- 1:28:11different century it'd be nice to Talk about
- 1:28:15him, but we will get to him tomorrow
- 1:28:17night.
- 1:28:18I think he's got some very interesting Perspectives
- 1:28:22and so that is exactly what we will
- 1:28:26do he He had another hour and a
- 1:28:31half long Appearance and some questions afterward.
- 1:28:36He's a very smart person.
- 1:28:38He knows about Blackrock remember This is the
- 1:28:40guy that he and his wife Where is
- 1:28:43that if I can find it?
- 1:28:46He's a deep-cover Russian intelligence officer that
- 1:28:50spent more than 20 years living in Canada
- 1:28:53in the US and Remember he was on
- 1:28:56that show I forget what it's called the
- 1:29:00the Russians or Okay, but his wife is
- 1:29:03Alina Vavilova and his own kids their own
- 1:29:08kids their two sons grew up thinking they
- 1:29:11were Canadian kids that just both went to
- 1:29:13American schools in Washington DC and The neighbors
- 1:29:18saw a standard couple he had a Harvard
- 1:29:20degree in a consulting firm and Anyway, we'll
- 1:29:23talk about them tomorrow.
- 1:29:24I think I appreciate you being with me
- 1:29:27tonight.
- 1:29:27It's international flavor I am Samuel trap.
- 1:29:31I'm here every oh, you know what I'm
- 1:29:33switching I'm actually gonna well.
- 1:29:36We'll talk about that tomorrow night.
- 1:29:37We're gonna switch my time again I'm gonna
- 1:29:39go early morning not early morning, but morning
- 1:29:42drive time after the first of the year
- 1:29:44I'm very glad you were with me.
- 1:29:46Hope you join me again tomorrow 9 o
- 1:29:50'clock on this same bat Channel have a
- 1:29:54good evening Now back to the rock