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The Skull and Bones Society · Conspiracy! The Show

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  Speaker 2: A Welcome to Conspiracy the Show with your hosts Adam
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  Speaker 2: Todd Brown and Conye mc snadden.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome to Conspiracy the Show.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Adam Todd Brown, I'm Conor mc spadden.
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  Speaker 1: And we are talking about secret societies today. How exciting.
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  Speaker 4: Well one in particular, good stuff, the skulling Bones, the Kleenex,
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  Speaker 4: of secret society.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like every time I'm like, hey, what have
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  Speaker 1: you been doing since we recorded last? And it's always
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  Speaker 1: so transparent that we do two of these at a time.
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  Speaker 3: Oh exactly.
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  Speaker 1: So it's always like, Oh, I was in the living
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  Speaker 1: room with a cigarettes I wondered if the girl's towel
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  Speaker 1: down there was a star Trek thing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I pet your dog a little bit. I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: I just rated your Brita filter.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're talking about the history of Skull and Bones
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  Speaker 1: Commune with my spirit Cats, which is this is one
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  Speaker 1: of those secret societies that also somehow allowed access to
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  Speaker 1: their inner workings to a Hollywood production, because there is
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  Speaker 1: a movie call is it called the Skulls.
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  Speaker 3: I think something like that got Craig T.
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  Speaker 1: Nelson in it, Coach going on to rule the world.
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  Speaker 3: No, I fucking don't know any actors.
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  Speaker 1: Oh you would know Craig T. Nelson if he saw them.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, I'm just one of these people. I don't And
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  Speaker 4: this is not me trying to be cool or whatever.
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  Speaker 3: The don't care.
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  Speaker 4: But like, if you showed me Jessica Alba, Jessica Simpson
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  Speaker 4: and like, I don't know Halle Bear, not halle Berry.
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  Speaker 3: I know that one Drew Barrymore, I would not know
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  Speaker 3: the difference.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's Craig T. Nelson.
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  Speaker 3: Oh oh yeah, he looks familiar.
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  Speaker 1: He's like the thing is, he was more popular in
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  Speaker 1: the eighties and early nineties because he had a really
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  Speaker 1: famous TV show called Coach, which was fantastic. Okay, but
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  Speaker 1: then he did kind of disappear a little bit. Fine Connor,
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  Speaker 1: I'm fifty thousand years old.
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  Speaker 3: There's a guy on Twitter. I think his name is
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  Speaker 3: Krang T. Nelson.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's a good follow him or we follow
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  Speaker 4: each other and he's funny.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that's that's a good good Twitter handle Krang?
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  Speaker 3: Who's Krang? Who's the Ninja Turtles guy?
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  Speaker 1: Is it? I thought it was.
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  Speaker 4: I thought Krang was from Sweet Astronauts, Drength, Simpsons, Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 4: Craning and Codos.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah okay, yeah, that's it.
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  Speaker 1: Uh So, let's talk about me.
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  Speaker 3: I voted for Khotos.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Skull and Bones. It's Yale's secretive
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  Speaker 1: and prestigious Senior Society. Senior Society is one that draws
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  Speaker 1: its recruits from students in the senior class.
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  Speaker 3: No freshman aloud, baby.
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  Speaker 1: Other societies at Yale include the Scroll and Key, Wolf's Head, Hey, puppy,
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  Speaker 1: that's your society, Brazilius and Book and Celias and Book
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  Speaker 1: and Snake.
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  Speaker 4: There's no Brazilius and Book is a coffee shop in
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  Speaker 4: Silver Lake.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, what the get better at naming Skulling Bones? Fuck?
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  Speaker 1: Colling Bones is dope. Princeton has the Ivy Club, Gay
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  Speaker 1: Harvard has what are called the Final Clubs. The most
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  Speaker 1: storied is the Porcelain. I wonder where that name comes from.
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  Speaker 1: Dartmouth has the Sphinx. Brown has the pacifica house.
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  Speaker 4: That's okay again, a publishing company that deals with, like, right,
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  Speaker 4: novels about women getting abortions in the eighteen hundreds.
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  Speaker 1: Cornell gets it. They got the quill and Dagger. That's
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  Speaker 1: that's great. That's a little better. Quill and Dagger. University
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  Speaker 1: of Pennsylvania is all over Dartmouth's dick. They have the
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  Speaker 1: Sphinx also, and the Friar Senior Society and the mortar Board.
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  Speaker 4: Mortar board, that's like, is that a masonry thing or
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  Speaker 4: these people just really like, you know, projectiles.
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  Speaker 1: Skull and Bones is the oldest senior society though it's
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  Speaker 1: informally known as Bones and As if I didn't want
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  Speaker 1: to join already, its members are known as Bonesmen, Bonesmen.
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  Speaker 1: We are the Bonesmen.
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  Speaker 4: That's a terrible that's like a shitty band that just
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  Speaker 4: was trying to capitalize on the Misfits revival.
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  Speaker 1: The organization dates back to eighteen thirty two, when Yale
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  Speaker 1: student William at Russell created the Order of Skull and
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  Speaker 1: Bones after visiting in occult society in Germany. That's comforting
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  Speaker 1: because nothing relating to the occult has ever come bad
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  Speaker 1: out of Germany.
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  Speaker 4: No, it's that's the cool thing about Nazi not the
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  Speaker 4: cool thing which is funny about Nazis. There's no cool
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  Speaker 4: things about Nazis. That is my official statement. But then
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  Speaker 4: they were like, all right, it's not enough. They were
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  Speaker 4: already evil and tried to do weird science. We're also
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  Speaker 4: just let's head our bets. Let's get into devil shit exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and also alien shit, like have you ever looked
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  Speaker 1: into we should do an episode about Nazis and Aliens.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, the Nazis on the mood, the Iron Sky thing.
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  Speaker 1: They come up a lot on ancient aliens. Yeah, there's
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  Speaker 1: like a whole episode about Nazi technology being hand, which
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  Speaker 1: I guess means Aliens hate Jews. Like, that's weird. The
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  Speaker 1: have you ever looked into the Nazi best well, no,
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  Speaker 1: which was a it was a weapon.
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  Speaker 3: They were Mexican Nazi bell.
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  Speaker 1: They were looking into this machine called the Nazi.
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  Speaker 3: Trap Supreme Race. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So it was supposed to be like a time travel
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  Speaker 1: machine okay, and it worked on like it had a
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  Speaker 1: a center mechanism that worked on like used mercury, and
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  Speaker 1: it was supposed to be based on this like ancient design.
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  Speaker 1: There have been a few points this week where I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: I know a lot about Nazis a little too much.
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  Speaker 4: Well, you basically your job for a decade has been
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  Speaker 4: just learning about weird shit on the internet.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and over the past year it's gotten so much
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  Speaker 1: more intense because I have to do so many podcasts
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  Speaker 1: a week, so I'm just researching ship all the time.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, the the Nazis and Aliens are that's an
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  Speaker 1: interesting story.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm always that like looks like he just like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, fucking broke open the Watergate case every time, Like, ough,
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  Speaker 4: have you seen what's going on with Ace of Base
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  Speaker 4: Jesus christ real conversation.
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  Speaker 1: We'll discuss it later. Yeah, we did just have the
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  Speaker 1: ace of bassed talk. I dropped that conspiracy on a dude,
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  Speaker 1: like a writer who I had never met, was just
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  Speaker 1: guesting on our Nirvana podcast, okay, because he wrote a
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  Speaker 1: book about Nirvana, and I just dropped the ace of
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  Speaker 1: base thing on him in the middle of that podcast,
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  Speaker 1: and he was like, I still don't think I believe it,
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  Speaker 1: so I just edited all of it out.
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  Speaker 3: Dude. Fuck yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I mean I was sold on the first like line
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  Speaker 4: of proof, and then there's so much more. You guys,
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  Speaker 4: there's a lot more we should We'll do Ace of
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  Speaker 4: base talk. That's your like Birds and the Bees. Once
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  Speaker 4: you get to know Ada, once you've done fifteen podcasts
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  Speaker 4: with him, he's like, we need to talk.
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  Speaker 1: About a bas you bring up as of base. I
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  Speaker 1: just hold out a red pill and a blue pill.
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  Speaker 1: Which when do you want?
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  Speaker 3: Adam is wearing a leather jacket.
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  Speaker 1: He's in blackface, but that has nothing to do with
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  Speaker 1: the exchange. How I dress whenever it's Sunday. Okay, He's
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  Speaker 1: relaxed returning to campus. This is still William H. Russell.
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  Speaker 1: After returning from Germany, and reading up on the occult
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  Speaker 1: Shameless Show he returned to campus. He used that organization,
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  Speaker 1: in which secrecy was paramount, as a blueprint for his own.
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  Speaker 1: He Russell tapped Alfonso Taft, which always excited when there's
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  Speaker 1: a white dude named Alfonso.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's always that is kind of That's mostly
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  Speaker 4: all the Alfonsos I know are Mexican.
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  Speaker 1: Dion. When's the last time you met a white Dion?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: There's a big pop singer in the sixties named Dion
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  Speaker 1: who's a white guy that I feel like that name
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  Speaker 1: has fallen out of favor.
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  Speaker 3: One of the widest I've ever left.
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  Speaker 4: I was listening to Freakonomics at the gym in like
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  Speaker 4: twenty ten and my best friend grinded was a guy
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  Speaker 4: named Jake. And it's going through, like, you know, the
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  Speaker 4: influence of you know what your name is, if your
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  Speaker 4: name sounds thick on getting a job and all these things,
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  Speaker 4: and it goes through.
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  Speaker 3: All right, this is it's very specific.
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  Speaker 4: It's these are the ten whitest names in California in
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  Speaker 4: the nineteen nineties when me and my friend Jake were born.
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  Speaker 3: And all right, they go through the list. Number one Jake.
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  Speaker 3: I start laughing. Number two Connor, and I'm.
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  Speaker 1: Like, Jesus Christ, I'm surprised Jake was number one.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I could. I could see a black Jake, you know,
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  Speaker 3: but it was just weird.
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  Speaker 4: I guess just Jake specifically, or maybe it's just like Jacob,
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  Speaker 4: not Jacob, just Jake.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if it's only their names. Actually I
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  Speaker 3: think his name's actually Jacob.
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  Speaker 1: But anyway, Yeah, interesting, So white Alphonso Taft, his son
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  Speaker 1: would later become President William H. Taft.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what Tim Allen was surprised by that.
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  Speaker 1: And Alfonso would be among the first members of the
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  Speaker 1: Brotherhood of Death.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, but then they broke up after that.
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  Speaker 1: First DP, they broke up, and then they reorganized into
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  Speaker 1: a supergroup known as the Order of the Skull and Bones.
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  Speaker 5: The Brotherhood of Death was like the and the Skull
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  Speaker 5: and Bones were the stooges, all right, I'm telling you
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  Speaker 5: they were the proto Natty.
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  Speaker 1: Scull and Bone selects fifteen new members among students every
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  Speaker 1: spring as part of Yale University's Tap Day.
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  Speaker 4: Uh No, that's the fucking that's the Info Wars porn
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  Speaker 4: site Illuminati America.
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  Speaker 1: I would visit. I would make that my one, my
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  Speaker 1: one porn site.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, Preston Parker is gonna fuck the devil on the
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  Speaker 5: on the White House lawn.
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  Speaker 1: They've been doing this since eighteen seventy nine. They tap
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  Speaker 1: those that they view as campus leaders and other notable
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  Speaker 1: figures for its membership.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like if I get tapped, I'm like, I
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  Speaker 4: almost am like, I don't want I don't want no
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  Speaker 4: part of this shit.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I think there is someone at one
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  Speaker 1: point who shoots him down.
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  Speaker 3: Joe Lieberman.
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  Speaker 4: Oh that's right, Yeah, Joe Lieberman, which is surprising because
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  Speaker 4: Joe Lieberman is a tremendous.
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  Speaker 1: Piece of shit exactly, but he had he had morals
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  Speaker 1: at one point apparently.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he was like, you know what, I'm gonna kill
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  Speaker 4: single payer, and I don't want to meet the devil.
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  Speaker 1: Since there are only fifteen people a year, that means
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  Speaker 1: there are about eight hundred living members at any one time,
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  Speaker 1: and only around eight hundred.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the living should be in quotation marks.
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  Speaker 4: And it's like after that, they're right, they're all in
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  Speaker 4: robot bodies. Yeah, Prescott Bush is drinking a fucking martini
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  Speaker 4: made out of the tears of black single.
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  Speaker 1: Mothers rozen somewhere. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Walt Disney's down there playing shuffle board with
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  Speaker 4: fucking Lincoln, just.
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  Speaker 3: Like, yeah, shutting the head, that's what they want you anything.
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  Speaker 1: Since its beginning, the club has met two evenings a week.
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  Speaker 1: They spend one of the nights socializing and the other
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  Speaker 1: debating cultural and political affairs. Starting in eighteen fifty six,
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  Speaker 1: they've assembled in a brown sandstone mausoleum known as the Tomb,
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  Speaker 1: a crypt like widow.
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  Speaker 4: Look, we wanted to get white sandstone, but we had
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  Speaker 4: some budgetary.
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  Speaker 3: Issues early on.
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  Speaker 1: We just do with the It's a crypt like windowless
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  Speaker 1: structure that non members are forbidden to enter. Skeleton skulls
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  Speaker 1: and other ghoulish objects adorn the interior walls, along with
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  Speaker 1: portraits of distinguished members. I really want to see the
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  Speaker 1: inside of that building.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's like the Club thirty three.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: The government, you know, is that out there. They probably
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  Speaker 4: aren't given walking tours.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but there's always like in this day and age
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  Speaker 1: up see okay ken with Prisco. Now, oh, it looks
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  Speaker 1: like a frat house. Interesting, I mean it does look.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it looks like moderately spooky.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's probably an I mean, obviously an older picture. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: these are black and white doesn't help.
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  Speaker 3: I mean it does look pretty bad ass.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, i'd go Hayes a freshman there, Why the fuck not?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: The society also owns and manages Deer Island, a forty
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  Speaker 1: acre island retreat on the Saint Lawrence River. It once
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  Speaker 1: boasted tennis courts and softball fields Connor, but now it's
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  Speaker 1: basically just burnt out brick buildings. What the fuck happened
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  Speaker 1: to the crack epidemic hit Deer Island? Why it burnt
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  Speaker 1: out buildings?
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  Speaker 3: This one really backfired on us.
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  Speaker 1: We thought we had it. This time makes no sense.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Saint Lawrence River is in Detroit, interestingly.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Crack and aides.
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  Speaker 4: They're like, all right, the crack this is gonna finish
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  Speaker 4: the jeb we got this is there's gonna be a
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  Speaker 4: good one two punch.
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  Speaker 1: Uh. Like other Yale senior societies, Skull and Bones membership
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  Speaker 1: was almost exclusively limited to white Protestant males for much
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  Speaker 1: of its history. While Yale itself had exclusionary policies directed
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  Speaker 1: at particular ethnic and religious groups, the senior societies were
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  Speaker 1: even more exclusionary. What a surprise.
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  Speaker 5: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Eventually, some Catholics were able to join, Jews were more
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  Speaker 1: often not. This has changed over time as the society
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  Speaker 1: has continued to transform and become more modern.
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  Speaker 3: Like what did the Jews ever do?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? I got it.
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  Speaker 4: What it's like, I don't understand, Like it's always like
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  Speaker 4: no Jews, like and.
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  Speaker 1: It just seems like an inherent thing with some people
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  Speaker 1: that they're like just a reflexive reaction like Jews.
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  Speaker 4: Oh no, yeah, I don't even is it just because
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  Speaker 4: they're like, you guys killed Jesus, Yeah he was also
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  Speaker 4: a Jew.
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  Speaker 1: Like yeah, it's just it's yeah, it's really strange, but
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  Speaker 1: they are. They seem to be one of the more
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  Speaker 1: targeted groups.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I never really fucking really have seen any Like I
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  Speaker 4: don't know, not that I'm looking for evidence or thing.
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  Speaker 4: It exists, but I just don't know, like what's the reason,
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  Speaker 4: Like what's like, you know, like what just odd?
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  Speaker 1: I mean maybe we should just read mind Kampf, you know, and.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe figure it all the conspiracy the show book Club.
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  Speaker 1: Piece it all together. This has changed over time the
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  Speaker 1: society's continued to transform and become more modern. For more
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  Speaker 1: than a century, the bonesmen were all white men. Even
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  Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty four, Skull and Bones failed to induct
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  Speaker 1: an African American. Discrimination didn't go unnoticed.
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  Speaker 3: The fucking Lyndon b sellout.
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  Speaker 1: Future Senator Joe Lieberman declined to TAP that year because
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  Speaker 1: of it.
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  Speaker 3: Was it like, I didn't want to be in the club.
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  Speaker 4: That's not a good John Stewart did the best, fucking
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  Speaker 4: Joe Lieberman, remember that he'd do him his dreak.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, that was a good time.
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  Speaker 1: In nineteen sixty five, it inducted its first African American
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  Speaker 1: member and first woman in nineteen ninety two.
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  Speaker 4: Wow, can we find out who the first black guy
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  Speaker 4: in Skull and Bones was?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's an interesting one.
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  Speaker 4: I feel I feel like it would be like a
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  Speaker 4: like a racle we let urkle it.
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  Speaker 1: It's probably Muhammad Ali.
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  Speaker 3: It was probably some dudy that was like one eighth
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  Speaker 3: black or something.
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  Speaker 1: Schooling.
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  Speaker 3: It's not just for white dudes anymore.
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  Speaker 1: This is an article from twenty thirteen. Yeah, it's just
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  Speaker 1: I don't think they're It's probably in this article on
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  Speaker 1: the Atlantic somewhere.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, the Jackie Robinson of the Skull and Bones that
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  Speaker 1: happened in nineteen sixty five ninety two the first woman.
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  Speaker 1: Who knows who that would have been. Uh, it's now
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  Speaker 1: much more diverse with Hispanic, Muslim, and Asian members. They
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  Speaker 1: also welcome students of all sexual orientations and transgender students, but.
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  Speaker 4: No Pacific Islanders. We have to draw a line somewhere,
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  Speaker 4: and I feel.
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  Speaker 1: Like I don't believe them. I bet there's not a
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  Speaker 1: ton of transgender students in the Skull and Bones or maybe.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, if there are, I want to talk to her.
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  Speaker 1: That SuDS for sure, like, how did you infiltrate that group?
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  Speaker 1: Harvard's final clubs, meanwhile, are still almost exclusively male only
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: and overwhelmingly white.
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: That's why I didn't go. That's the reason. That's why
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: I turned it down.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: Skull and Bones members who were interviewed for the Atlantic
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: articles insist we weren't inducted into an Illuminati like society
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: that guarantees our success. Says E, Well, why won't you
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: tell us your name? E?
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: None of us my reservoir docs.
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: Bro, You guys just hang out in a creepy building
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: and talk about how much you hate poor people.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: None of us plan to establish a new world order. Well,
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: why not.
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: There's eight hundred people that went to Yale, and nobody
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: likes the idea of a new world order.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: There's a big, long list of really famous people who've
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: been bonesmen, and they make up a dispropo.
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: We used to play.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: It's rumored that alumni have made up a disproportionately large
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: percentage of the world's most powerful leaders. They have at
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: one time controlled the fortunes of the Carnegie, Rockefeller, and
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Ford families, as well as posts in the CIA, the
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: American Psychological Association, the Council on Foreign Relations, and some
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: of the most powerful law firms in the world.
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: All right, let's play ball on this one. We'll get
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: your season tickets to the hall. You just got to
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: say that being gay's of metal illness for like eighty years.
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: I mean, I guess it's like just by you know,
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: people that are in Yale and people that are you know,
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: fucking gonna get inductive. They shit are going to go
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: on to do like big powerful things. It's just you
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: want like it's do you wonder what the evidence is
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: for like some kind of collusion between them. It's the
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: same where where it's like if you want to sell
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: like insurance. I was talking to my buddy, my mind,
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: who's like great salesman, and he got a job at
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: a really like fucking awesome life insurance comedy where like
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: people fucking just like rake it.
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: In, you know, and he's like, Yeah, I didn't go
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: to college.
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: I don't have all these fucking sorority buddies where I
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: can go just pick up the phone, just go through
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: the fucking, you know, fucking Gammas Shipballs directory and find like, okay, yeah, hey, look,
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: fucking I'll give you a discount, but just fucking make
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: this the official thing of your company.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: And get everyone on MetLife or whatever. You know.
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: So it's just probably the kind of the same thing,
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: but which is like slightly bigger scale.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean part of college is building connections and networking. Yeah,
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: and it's not so I mean, there's tons of groups.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: It's just for some you know. I mean, it makes
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: sense that people from this group would go on to
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: disproportionately phttial influence in the world because they're coming from
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: one of the most prestigious schools and this is a
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: group that taps that they believe are the top people
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: at that school. So of course it's gonna fuck.
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: Let's see if your Slyn style can match my evil
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: white guy stuff.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: You think yo Wu tang sword can defeed me?
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Your time has come. Yakub Yeah, Kub Yakub is the
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Oh that would be a fun one to do too.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: Whenever that's the nation of Islam guy, Yeah, I thought
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: it was just yaku. I didn't know there's a b
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: at the end.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's yak Kub. Whenever you hear someone call a
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: white person a devil, yeah, they think white people were
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: made in a lab by an evil black scientist.
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: Dude, my fucking my buddy, he's a comed He's hilarious.
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: His name's Kyrie Shabad is one of the fucking funnies
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: dudes I ever met. And also that has the blackest name.
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: It's the fucking awesome his name.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't get much blacker than that.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: I call him Kirby Shazam.
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: But he told me all about how he was raised
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: believing in yakou, you know, and he's like, yes, okay, totally.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: Get over it. I mean I look at you and
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: I'm like, maybe you were out of pig parts.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about some famous Scull and Bones members. William
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Howard Taft class of eighteen seventy eight. His father helped
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: found the Society, and he was the first bonesman to
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: reach the Oval Office.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: Fucking Howie Shaft in the White House, baby right.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Percy Rockefeller class of nineteen hundred, white shoe, New York lawyer.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know what that means, Connor.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: He practices the good kind of shoes, not the evil shoes.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: He was also an oil man and a gun dealer
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: and a Rockefeller also.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so there's that. As you may have susted out.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: Prescott Bush class of nineteen sixteen, grandfather of George W. Bush,
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: a notorious partier. It's rumored that he dug up and
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: absconded with the skull of the legendary Native American warrior
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Geronimo during World War One, because of course he fucking did. Yeah,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: and he would go on to be a senator from Connecticut.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: Fucking fun fact about Prescott Busch not only did he
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: like launder Nazi old uh and use that money to
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: fund his political aspirations, he also made his grandchildren call
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: him senator.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: That's so just the coolest thing about it.
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: Just think about Jeb and George, just like you know,
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: like Grandpa, can we go get it?
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: Senator? Can we go get ice cream?
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Even after he wasn't in office anymore?
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: No, he only starved one term, I believe.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: I hope he made him do that before he was
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: in office too.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: The Bushes have lost so many fucking elections.
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: It's crazy, Like I know, h you know, w ran
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: for the House and he lost in like you know,
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: something like in the eighties or whatever. And then uh yeah,
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: then he finally he bought the the Houston.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: Astros whatever the baseball team is.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: I thought they bought the Range Rangers.
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: It would have been the Rangers and kind of flipped them.
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: And then you know, he was like, I want to
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: I want to run for governor.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: He traded Sammy Sosa.
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: I want to.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: I want to be the governor.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: And you like everyone's like, yeah, Joe, I mean you're
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: like a charming dude, but like you haven't done anything.
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: You pretty much just you started a shitty oil company.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know.
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: Called Bush Bush Gallero or it's just like Bush and
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: Spanish up there right el Busco, I think it is.
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: Did you ever see w the Josh Brolin movie where
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: he plays no Bush? It was actually pretty good.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: It's kind of I mean, it's obviously not a straightforward
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: bio pick, but it's a It does a good job
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: of kind of telling the backstory of George Bush leading up.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: To an h W.
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: Fucking he tried to get every fucking job in government
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: and couldn't. Like he ran for the House, he ran
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: for the Senate. He uh, he was trying to get
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: the nomination during that crazy fucking convention that one year
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: when uh, you know, the the Nixon got it again
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: and you know, you know, Reagan got like three votes
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: and ship. You know, so he tried to do it
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: all and you just ended up in the CIA and
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: finally called. They're just fucking tenacious, crazy people.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: They really are. Yeah, I think with families like that,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: I think politics are just like it's the family. It's
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: the only thing you can do from Like, at some
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: point you get so rich and so powerful, the obvious
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: next step is let's try and make this power official
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: and be in the fucking government. And it's just like
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: I think, you know people who are like, oh, I
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: would still work if I was rich. Yeah, maybe he
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: would run for office every once in a while.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: With the Kennedys, too, I fucking joy reads.
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: It's something that really creaked me out where she was
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: on some show and she was talking about like, who
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: do you think are the good part of the prospects
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: for the twenty twenty candidates for president and she's like
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: the list of a couple of people or whatever, and
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: she's like, I think Joe Kennedy is a star. I
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: love that guy, but I mean, after his family's given
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: so much, I wouldn't want to ask them to sacrifice again.
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: And like so you're just assuming he's gonna get shot
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: that You're just like, well, we all know Kennedy's that
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: that hasn't been good.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: We know how it goes.
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's almost it's almost like the bushes and
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: the candys are like kind of the good and evil.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: Versions of that, you know.
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like he makes some like one made the
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: money drug running, the other made the money on Nazi gold,
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: you know.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: And yeah, they're like our royal families almost really are
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: country especially more so, like people try and paint the
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Clintons as that too, and that seems like because the
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: the Clintons don't have that reach, like.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: They don't like Chelsea doesn't they got one kid, you know,
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: like the.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Bushes are like fucking Bill Belichick. Yeah, They're just like
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: they've fucking spread out and fan out and they're in
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: every fucking aspect of life.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just like.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Fucking Bilichick's coaches exactly. It's dropping a good sports reference
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: on this conspiracy podcast. I just love it. Something I
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: lost it. What the fuck?
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: Oh Yeah, Dick Cheney's daughter ran and I think she
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: just got her fucking shit kicked in and the gay one.
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: But I think Liz Cheney the other one, and I
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: think she ran for a house seat in Wisconsin, and
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: they're just.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: Like, yeah, we don't even really like that guy.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: So I think everyone turned on Dick Cheney eventually, Yeah,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: which is fine.
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that fucking dude is still alive. That guy is fascinating, man.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's an interesting figure. I mean he he ran
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: our country for eight years basically from.
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: I read a great book that I recommend everybody called
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: Days of Fire, Bush and Cheney in the White House,
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: and it's a pretty it's by naming Peter Baker. You'll
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: see him pop up on fucking like cable news shows
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: a lot of the time, and it's a very interesting
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: kind of like a political you know, just telling the
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: story of what went down, and like you get the
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: impression that Dick Cheney is just fucking super paranoid.
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: It's a lot of these like real like defense nut people.
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: Is he's just like fucking he's still like he was.
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: You know, he was probably raised with all those duck
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: and cover drills and he's still got that fucking internalized
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: up there really hard.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it's a I could see that, Like he
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: seems like that type. Let's go through a few more
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: famous Henry Loose, he was class of nineteen twenty. Fellow
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Bonesman referred to him as Baal, an apparent reference to
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: a mythological, ancient Aramaic demon. He would go on to
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: found and published Time magazine. So, uh, a guy that
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: they called demon found in Time.
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: All that's with two a's everybody, which is just looks.
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: You look at it and you're like, nah, it's that's
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: a devil for some kinds for sure.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Any back to back vowels are always a concern. Yeah,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: it's either it's usually Latin and then Latin. That's that's
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: like the language of the devil.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: That's what the devil speaks.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, devil always speaks Latin. HJ. Hines the second class
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: of nineteen thirty one. Ketchup Air, father of future US senator.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: That's all I breathe is ketchup here.
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: I got this play, I got a fucking I got
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: a humidifier full of delicious heines kitsche.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: McGeorge Bundy, which is the best name on this list
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: by a million miles.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: His first name is McGeorge Dude shut Up.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: Class of nineteen forty. Nicknamed Odin by his Bonesman brothers,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: he became one of JFK's wise men. Bundy was another
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Bonesman with a long family lineage of getting tapped for
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: the society.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: It's not as cool as it sounds. That was for
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: his parts.
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: It sounded like thunder rolling through the halls with the
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: bones Editorium.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: The bones that's the new name for it.
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: It's not deer haul its, but the Bones Editorium to
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: the bone Sitorium.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: George Herbert Walker Bush class of forty eight, the second
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Bonesman to be elected president. He was also a fighter
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: pilot in World War Two, ambassador to Red China, and
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: director of the CIA.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: I'm also cannavan nerried.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: He very much William Sloan Coffin. He was the nephew
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: of Henry, Presbyterian clergyman and a folk hero of the
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: anti war movement of the sixties. I thought that was interesting.
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: It's there are a few people on the liberal side.
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: There's like John Kerry and stuff.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, John Carrey, he was class of sixty six. He
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: was tapped because he spent his childhood abroad with his
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: diplomat father.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he was.
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: He's one of those kind of kind of like Mika
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: Brazinski where he I forget who his dad was. I
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: fucking John carry That's it bums me out that he lost,
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: because that guy, like, after kind of learning a little
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: more about him, that guy's a real fucking American hero.
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: Like he did the whole Vietnam Vietnam Veterans against the
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: war thing, and he kind of spearheaded that and just
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: took so much fucking shit for it in the seventies
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: and really stood up to Nixon and yeah, I don't know.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he seemed like a smart guy and I thought
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: he would have made a good president.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: Just didn't have a lot of swag, no, and he
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: kind of.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: I feel like he got the nomination kind of late
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: in the game, no one was expecting him to get it,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: and then he just kind of against Howard Dean. Yeah,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Howard Howard.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: I think that was the Haward Dean year.
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: Finally it's appropriate time. Yeah, I think Howard Dean could
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: have won. Man, he had swag. I almost there's a
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: great that's a great fucking five thirty eight audio documentary.
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: And not to plug other podcasts where they talk about
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: how the Dean scream in the room in context didn't
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: sound that loud, but if you just isolated the mic audio, right,
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: it's fucking it just sounds bizarre.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: It's just insane that something like that derailed. Like he
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: was just excited that he was doing well.
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and it was like all that was on TV
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: for like that. That dominated a couple of news cycles.
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: I even remember that from being a fucking kid watching
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: that ship.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, nuts, Thanks America.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: If this is a fun hygh. I'm sorry to go
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: on so many sidebars.
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: If you could switch one election, all right, if you
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: in history, who do you take?
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: I mean right now, I would do it and Trump. Yeah,
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: but also I think yeah, because I feel like Bush
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Gore might have but bush Gore might have just I
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: don't brought Trump on sooner, because fascism is always a
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: reaction to liberalism.
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: If you watch some of the later rage against the
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: Machine videos, I've been led to believe that Bush and
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: Gore basically the same person.
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: All right, that's what they told.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Jesse Ventura believes it too, Like he
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: had that conspiracy theory show and he has a whole
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: episode about al Gore and how climate change is just
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: a means to make money and good stuff.
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I would go Robert Kennedy. Robber Kennedy
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: doesn't good chat. Oh, yeah, fucking he was. He was
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: a Yeah, I think he's probably the fucking one of
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: eight good elected public officials that we've had in our yeah,
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: fucking history. Because then I feel like, you don't get Nixon,
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: you don't get the Southern strategy, you don't get the
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: whole fucking red pilling of the South to be Republicans again, right.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: The was it the silent majority or the moral majority?
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: Silent majority?
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that came out. Nixon and Reagan really fucking expanded
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: on that.
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's that fucking that. Nixon really shifted
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: all that ship. And Yeah, that fucking book Nixon Land.
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, you pretty you pretty much are still
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: living in that political landscape that yeah made.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah he was an influential president. Like people just write
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: him off as a criminal, but he did a fucking lot.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: Dude, and again another dude, that's just tenacious. Yeah all right.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: I mean this guy like I've gotten to the House,
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: got into the Senate, fucking became vice president, just bab
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: and he just saw an opportunity, you know, he just
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: saw an opportunity to go after all the this like
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: McCarthyism shit. Yeah, you know, and then he just became
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: the fucking like attack dog of that, the Anthony Wiener
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: of you know, you're a communist back in the day,
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: and then just fucking lost and then lost an election
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: for governor right after, you know that one that's he
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: was and he's from California, you know, so he loses
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: this lower office, he basically gives that speech where he
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: tells everyone to go fuck himself. You're you're not gonna
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: have me to push around anymore, and then he goes
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: right to call him and slowly fucking creeps his way
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: back in.
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: It's kind of inspiring if it was evil that.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: First election he lost to Kennedy. There's people who say
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: Kennedy stole that election. Yeah, like that's that's a pretty
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: common Oh.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like with the fucking mob and Boston flipping votes.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, who knows. You know, that's how that
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: would have been different if Nixon had been in office
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: during all the Cuban missile crisis.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: Shit, oh man, that.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: Would have been We'd be dead. We wouldn't be here, dude.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: It's fucking it sucks. But like the sixties, so fucking fascinating.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, sixties and the seventies really great CNN documentaries about
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: I think they start with the sixties, sixties, seventies, eighties, nineties.
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: It'd be weird to do the seventies, then the prequel
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: to theties.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: It's yeah, it's like this.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: I feel like Romo was living in a reboot of
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: the seventies right now.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the seventies, the eighties to some extent, there are
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: a lot of similarities between Trump and Reagan, Yeah, especially in.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: Are only two divorced presidents.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they had the same fucking slogan, make America
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: great again.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: He did. Yeah.
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and they're both fucking you know, the people from
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: just pop cold. Sure, they were just kind of around
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: you know. Yeah, it's disturbing, all right. Uh so yeah,
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: and also like George W. Bush, obviously John Kerry, they
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: were both bonesmen. So yeah, there's a long, long line
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: of famous bonesman the let's talk about the Geronimo's bones story.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because this is this is true.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's gotta be like it sounds like something
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: a rich family would have.
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: It's like the durable thing. It's like that didn't just
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: come up. Who would make that up?
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: Like if you if you meet the Bushes and get
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: really really tight with them, I bet at some point
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: they take you to the room Geronimo's skull in it.
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: I bet like the guy that owns Amazon, He's like,
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: you want to see Blackbeard's balls him in a jar,
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: you know, next to my fucking.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: The The rumor is the record. Prescott S. Bush, the
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: father of George H. W. Bush, dug up Geronimo's grave
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: in nineteen eighteen with the help of several other bonesmen
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: and all the Warrior's skull a ghost.
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: This is the best Scooby Doo fucking prequel is Prescott
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: Busch Grave robbing. There was almost a mean boy sketch,
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: which was a Prescott Bush rap that featured the line
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: I've got presidents in my.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: Nuts, So I'm very mad we never did.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you should do that.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: Maybe.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: They also stole the skull, two bones, and some writing
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: gear from his grave at Fort Sill, Oklahoma. They allegedly
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: put the remains on display at the tomb. In February
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: two thousand nine, one hundredth anniversary of Geronimo's death, descendants
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: of the Apache Warrior filed a federal lawsuit against Skull
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: and Bones, demanding that the group returned Geronimo's remains to
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: his family. Skull and Bones denies that they have his skull,
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: and scholars disagree whether or not Geronimo's grave was disturbed
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: at all, although he was buried in an unmarked grave,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: so it would be impossible to know for sure.
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: They might just have some dude skull. Yeah, you know,
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: how do you identify it really?
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: Which, Yeah, they probably just murdered someone and then made up
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: the Geronimo story because they know no one's gonna give
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: a fuck if you dig up a Native American. Yeah,
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: not especially not back then.
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: I mean it's like when when when they sued, It's
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: like I mean, I'm sorry, guys, but how do you
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: think this is gonna end? Like, I don't know if
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: you've learned anything about anythings we've ever done here, but
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: this is the you might get another casino out of it.
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: That's the as this goes.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's like, there's no way they would admit
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: this late in the game to having it even if
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: they did.
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: It's just so it's just like, okay, yeah, we all
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: decided from the people that evicted you from this place
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: where you were just like eating berries and hunting buffalo,
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: where you'd used every part, and then yeah, we're gonna
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: take your u you know, your main guy. We're gonna
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: take his skull and use it as a chachki.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: They're like, yeah, we don't have a skull. We're just
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: using his memory to uh make our group sound darker.
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: So yeah, yea fine, Yeah, we're just a you know,
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: fetishizing his legacy to make us sound more edgy.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: So let's talk about some of the conspiracies behind the
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Gull and Bones. Because it's such a secret society and
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: it has such powerful members, it is ripe for conspiracy.
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: Hear those bonesmen do have real powerful members, Yes, ah right,
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: this is the safe people.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Oh, this is the same type of situation that the
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: Masons find themselves in. But getting a member to talk
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: openly about the club is akin to getting a lawyer
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: to break attorney client privilege.
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: The Mason stole my secret rib dry rub recipe. I
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: meticularly crafted a blend of herbs and spices that's more
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: powerful than mankind has ever known.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: I'm making ribs today.
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: These would make a vegan come at forty yards people,
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: and I won't settle till I haven't returned to me.
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: There's only one copy, and it's written on the back
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: of a CBS re seat with the blood.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: Of a homeless man that I murdered because I was
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: met and my ex wife.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: That does sound like something Alex Jones would do.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: Is something you did. He just told you right now.
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: You didn't smell brimstone before I started doing that.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: Uh. There are rumors that surround the odd rituals that
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: happen inside the tomb, like chanting, lying in coffins or
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: naked in piles of bones has made them seem sinister.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: They also make you take your shoes off.
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: I'm like, seriously, guys, you know you can't hire a
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: cleaning lady to wipe up a little soot.
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, No, that's that's I always heard the one where
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: it's you got to jerk off into a skull.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't get sinister from that. I get uh,
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: I get gross, Yeah, I get gross. I get uh,
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: let's do some gay stuff like yeah, Like, it doesn't
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: feel sinister to me.
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: It's one of these things where I feel like the
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: people that would be in Skull and Bones would have
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: enough internalized homophobia where if they all jerked off into
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: a skull together, they no one would tell anybody, you know.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: But the gay all right?
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I laundered Nazi gold, but I'm I like pussy,
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: all right.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: The group has been blamed for everything from the creation
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: of the nuclear bomb holy shit, to the Kennedy assassination,
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: which we will get to a little bit here and
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: a whole lot on our next couple episodes.
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: I don't think we've ever done a podcast where we
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: haven't run up the Kennedy assassination.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: It's my favorite conspiracy theory because it's my favorite because
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: it's one that I feel like I know what happened.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, fucking check out.
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: Brothers by David Talbot if you want a good entry point. Yeah,
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: that book's gonna make you so fucking mad.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's uh well, I mean we'll talk about it
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: on the episode, but we will. Yeah, I know. I
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: have a specific theory that's my favorite for how it
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: actually happened, and I can't fucking wait to talk about it.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: I think it'll probably end up being two episodes. There's
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: so much to dig into with JFK.
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, well we gotta go hand.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: But we did not. But we did nine to eleven
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: as one episode. Yeah. Well that one white dude getting shot,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: now that fucking matters.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I mean, its fucking there's so many things.
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: There's Cuba and the CIA and Linden and.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's a it's a spider web.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: I didn't think of it.
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: So weird that there's guys such a hard ass named Lynden,
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: Like it's such a bitch name.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: Theorists such as Alexandra Robbins suggests that the Skull and
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: Bones is a branch of the Illuminati, having been founded
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: by German university alumni following the order suppression in their
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: native land by Carl Theodore, Elector of Bavaria with the
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: support of Frederick the Great of Prussia and that skull
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: and bones itself controls the CIA.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: That would be interesting, That would be interesting.
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: I mean that they probably they could probably get CIA
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: on the phone, you know.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, for sure.
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: The thing about like, no matter what kind of shit
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: I talk about the CIA doing bad things, I would
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: absolutely join the CIA, oh for sure.
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: If nothing else, you know, you'd want to be like, oh, well,
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: maybe I could try to stop some of this shit.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: Right right, or just I mean, what a cool way
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: to die? You die in some CIA shit?
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: Oh for sure.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: That's a maze. Like I'm gonna probably die fucking old
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: and doing I'll be I'll watch TV. I'll be watching
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: TV probably yeah yeah, yeah.
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: You fell asleep watching TV and you're gonna die?
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: Or do you want to get shot in the back
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: of the head thinking I love big Brother, you know,
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: that's way cooler.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: Way to go out.
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: And like I though that ship like the sea, and
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: like like when Obama said he was gonna close down
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: Guantanamo and then he just didn't do it, you know,
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: and and then you fucking wonder it's like did he
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: get in there?
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: And then someone showed him.
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: A folder and he was like, holy shit, we need Guantanamo,
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: all right, they have the devil in there.
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: Not that's not a metaphor. We captured the devil. God
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: is real. He's mad. The devil is too. He's in
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: guantanam WHOA like?
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: I fucking It's just it's interesting. I've always thought it
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: was interesting that that never became a bigger deal, that
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: he didn't ever shut down Guantanamo. No, And I mean
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: that was like the first thing people wanted him to do.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: And he was, yeah, he was all about it. And
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: it's like he could have done it. This fucking executive orderable.
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, it is executive warnable.
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: You can get that on fucking the White House postmates.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: Uh. One of the catalysts for modern conspiracy theories is
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: a book written by historian Anthony Sutton called The Skull
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: and Bones Expose America's Secret Establishment, written in nineteen eighty six,
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: and that book argued that old line families in the
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: Order were trying to transform America into a bonesman run dystopia.
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: Everybody's got a fuck a skull for brickfast.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: The United States of the Bonesmen.
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: Oh no, And then fucking the flag, but the stars
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: are all skulls.
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: That would be cool.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that would be fucking amazing.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: I was thinking about the other day, like if all
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: the governments do unify, Like, honestly, the best version of
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: that flag, the global government flag, is the Futurama flag.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: It's just the United States flag with Earth in the middle.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: So there's also a theory that skull and bones is
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: the Illuminati. This is great per theorist. In seventeen eighty five,
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: a bolt of lightning struck a courier en route to
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: Paris when Frankfurt on the main a tract written by
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: Adam Weischhaupt, founder of the Illuminati Original Shift in Days
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: of Illuminations, was recovered from the dead messenger, containing the
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: secret society's long range plan for the new world order
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: through world revolution. The Bavarian government outlawed the society and
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: in seventeen eighty seven published the details of the Illuminati
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: conspiracy in the original writings of the Order and Sect
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: of the Illuminati and Adam Weishaupt's own words, By this plan,
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: we shall direct all mankind in this manner and by
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: the simplest means we shall set all in motion and
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: in flames. The occupations must be so allotted and contrived
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: that we may, in secret influence all political transactions.
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: I mean like sometimes when you just hear writing like that,
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: you're like, Jesus Christ.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's terrifying, and it's set all all all the
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: world in emotion. And have you ever have you ever
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: read any like conspiracy books, like any of the really
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: famous ones. Did you ever read The Invisible Hand? No,
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: that's a creepy one. That's that's basically.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: It's not about Keynesian economics.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: No, No, it's about uh, basically what he's talking about.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: Just uh, it's it's it's kind of an alternative history
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: kind of thing. Okay, it's interesting, but it's one of
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: those things where you never fucking know.
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, the fun and then you see like the
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: Builderberg group meetings and it's like, yeah, fucking you never,
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: it's like, I don't know, wouldn't be surprised. And then
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: like Trump wins and you're like, is that just because
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: he's dumb and they think they can control him?
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: Or is that proof that there is no Illuminati?
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you never?
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: Is that proof that putin out fucking Illuminati. The Illuminati, like.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: And there's that Behold a Pale Horse. Have you ever
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: read that book?
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that one's a gray line in that Johnny Cash
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: song with the man comes around with his crowding that but.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: Behold a bail Horse.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, clearly dying.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: Rick Rubin's making me do Alkalan Trio.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: Songs, the guy who wrote that book. In the introduction,
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: he's like, uh, if I end up murdered, the Masons
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: did it and then he got murdered.
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: Wow, if you do anything where you gotta be like
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: if I got murdered, you know, like, yeah, just don't
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: do it. Just kind of sucks. If there's no you
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: can never get to a level as a comedian. We're like,
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: if I got murdered, Kat Williams did it? Okay?
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: He seems like the most likely candidate. Uh. On December fifth,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: seventeen seventy six, students at William and Mary College founded
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: a secret society, Phive Beta Kappa. A second chapter was
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: formed at Yale in seventeen eighty. Theorists believe that members
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: of the Illuminati actually started these societies. The anti Masonic
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: movement in the United States are in the eighteen twenties
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: held groups such as Phi Beta Kappa in a bad light.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: Because of pressure, the society went public. This is noted
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: by some theorists as the actual cause of the appearance
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: of Yale's Order of Skull and Bones.
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: That's kind of almost how like you know, like remember
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: that bowling for Columbine thing, like the day the KKK
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: was ordered a hate group, then the NRA started six
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: weeks later.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, uh five. Phi Beta Kappa is the first three
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: Greek letters for Philosophia, bo Kubernetes, or love of wisdom,
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: the helmsman of life. A skull homophone is skull scu ll,
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: a quick gliding boat and part of Skull and Bones's
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: first nomenclature. Okay, uh yeah, this is not an easy
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: theory to follow.
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean it's just a lot of symbolism.
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like all this shit is so vague, and they
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: only had like seventy eight words back then, and they're
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: all about like wisdom.
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: Like well it means wisdom, but it also means death
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: and it's also a cat and you're like okay, well maybe.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And all of these different societies have their weird
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: symbolisms like any like almost any group has that kind
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: of thing. Yeah, uh so let's let's get to the
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: last uh. I think this is a good preview for
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: our next episode because there is a theory that Scull
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: and Bones and George Bush killed jfk Wah Rodney stitches
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: book Defrauding America tells of a deep cover CIA officer
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: assigned to a counter intelligence unit code named Pegasus.
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: I'm just thinking of Snoop Andre doing deep cover.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: Now, that's such a good song.
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: All right, let me tell you.
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: Something, Barbara, I need to go deep cover on the
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: incognito tip. Right, we're taking down the Kennedy's barber. Believe,
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: we're gonna you know, the dumb one. Yeah, yeah, he's
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: gonna run shit. Yeah no yet, just take JV to
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: the baseball game. I gotta go to Cuba.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: This unit had tape recordings of plans to assassinate Kennedy
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: from a tap on the phone of j Edgar Hoover.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: That guy's fucking wild. The people on the tapes were
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: Nelson Rockefeller, Alan Dulles, Linda Johnson, George Bush, and Jerkie Boys.
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: Is that.
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: I get a pizza with like a Geronibo squad?
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: In nineteen sixty three. Bush was living in Houston, busily
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: carrying out his duties as president of the Zappata Offshore
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: Oil Company.
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: I gave it a Mexican name so people didn't realize
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: the very racist.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: He denied the existence of a note sent by the
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: FBI's j Edgar Hoover to mister George Bush of the CIA.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: When news of the note surface, the CIA first said
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: they never commented on employment questions, but later relented and said, yes,
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: a George Bush was mentioned in the note, but then
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: it was another George Bush, not the man who took
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: office in the White House in nineteen eighty eight or
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: eventually ran the CIA. Different George Bush. Some reporters tracked
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: down the other George Bush and discovered that he was
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: just a lowly who had shuffled papers for the CIA
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: for about six months. He never received any intra agency
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: messages from anybody at the FBI.
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: Oh that poor dude.
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: He's a fucking secretary and now he just get his
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: just fucking email every eight days.
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: It's like, did you kid? No, I just want to
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: do my crossword puzzles and die.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: This is interesting. It's also worth noting that a CIA
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: code word for Bay of Pigs was Operation Zapata, and
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: that two of the support vessels were named Barbara and Houston.
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: It's like, that's one of those things where it's like
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: that is so fucking opaqueley like conspiratorial. It has to
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: be a coincidence, because who, if they're doing a conspiracy,
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: would be stupid enough to be.
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: Like, Okay, shit, we need some code names. How about
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: my wife and my homestown.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: You know, many say that George Bush was high up
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: on the CIA ladder at the time, running proprietorial vehicles
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: and placed in a position to command responsible for many
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: of the Cubans were you recruited into service at the time.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: All through the Iran contra affair, Felix Rodriguez, the man
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: who captured and had shag Guavara killed for the CIA,
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: always seemed to call Bush's office first. Damn per theorist.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: Per theorist, Bush was working with the now famous CIA
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: agent Felix Rodriguez recruiting right wing Cuban exiles for the
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: invasion of Cuba. It was Bush's CIA job to organize
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: the Cuban community in Miami for the invasion.
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: Nothing is funnier than imagining a young stiffe, George H. W. Bush,
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: just like.
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: In a smoky room full of brown people, being like so, so, so,
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: what do you call it?
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: This?
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: This is spassy, just doing spy shit. You guys been
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: practicing with your coalition of covs out.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: There, they say. Newly discovered FBI documents reveal that George
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: Bush was directly involved in the nineteen sixty three murder
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: of President John F. Kennedy. The document places marksmen by
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: the CIA. Bush at that time lived in Texas, hopping
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: from Houston to Miami weekly. Bush spent nineteen sixty and
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: sixty one recruiting Cubans in Miami for the evasion.
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this is either a cocaine thing or an overthrowing
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: government thing.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah for sure.
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: If you're going to Miami, you've got a secret porn career,
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: or you're trying to kill the president.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: George Bush claims he never worked for the CIA until
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: he was appointed director by former Warren Commission Director and
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: then President Jerry Ford in n Gerald Ford in nineteen
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: seventy six. Yeah, logic suggests that that is highly unlikely.
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: Of course, Bush has a company duty to deny being
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: in the CIA. But of course he was in the
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: fucking CIA. After he's appointed director of the CIA.
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but at this point he was like freelancing for
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: the CIA.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: But that's not a role you bring in outsiders for.
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, there's a there's a clip I think
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: it's at Gerald Ford's funeral, you know, where HW is
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: talking about you know, John Kennedy getting shot or whatever
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: by a.
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: Lone gum and he just like laughs and then everyone's.
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: Like, oh, okay, this guy's in on and there's there's
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: pictures of the guy in the grass you and all
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: the kind of looks like and I'm like, well, everybody
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: back there, there's only like five faces.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, in the sixties, right, everyone looked like Vince Lombardi
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: in the sixties. It's that spike haircut, the same fucking glasses. Yeah,
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: you had like smoking.
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: It's like a shitty like create a character game where
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: it's like, yeah, there's an eight pre set.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: The kids look like that back then, also still smoking.
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: Like and my grandpa looked like fucking w Bush.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: So that's uh, that's the skull and bones. This is one.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, obviously it's a thing that exists. There's no
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: disputing that.
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: And they're probably into some shady shit. But I think
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: it's kind of just on that same level as like
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: I was talking about selling insurance policies, where it's like, yeah,
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: they're connected, they just having to be connected a couple
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: levels up higher than you would be.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: And people who seek really high positions of power aren't
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: aren't always the most moral people, So it's not surprising
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: that some of them would get off into some into
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: some thug shit. Yeah, you know, but it doesn't mean
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: they control the world.
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: Like you were in a fucking you know, frat with
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: you know, the VP of human resources a canon camera
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: and you could you could talk to him, but this
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: guy is like, oh, yeah, you want to talk to
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: the ghost of fucking momarket afy.
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: I got him on speed dial.
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: So yeah, that's that's the skull and bones. Uh next week,
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: well I think we're doing JFK.
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, next week. We got to do it.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: We have to.
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: It's have those documents come out.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: I think I feel like I've seen them. Yeah already,
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: I'll look, I'll look again.
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: We got to look at it. We we we've been
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: talking about it for a long time. Have not done
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: any preliminary research at all.
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: Oh no, no, Speaking of that, shout out to Ashley
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: Best for helping out with research on both of these episodes,
• 51:39
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• 51:41
  Speaker 5: You're ever to expose the fucking lies have been appreciated, Ashley.
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• 52:34
  Speaker 1: of here. Connor say goodbye.
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was an inside job or something.
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