Latest / Saints Block Party Podcast / Ep 249 - What Could Go Right?
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- 0:44[SPEAKER_01]: We are coming back this episode.
- 0:47[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to talk about what if everything goes right for the Saints this upcoming season?
- 0:56[SPEAKER_01]: What if everything's going right?
- 0:59[SPEAKER_01]: Like what what does that look like?
- 1:00[SPEAKER_01]: What does that is for the Saints?
- 1:03[SPEAKER_01]: What is the cap of that if everything were to go right?
- 1:08[SPEAKER_01]: But.
- 1:09[SPEAKER_01]: But, but, but before we get into that, appreciate y'all who are watching us live on YouTube right now.
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- 2:07[SPEAKER_01]: And then the meetup party is going to be on the 10th of October.
- 2:10[SPEAKER_01]: We already have people who have bought their flights.
- 2:12[SPEAKER_01]: I bought my flight this past weekend.
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- 2:30[SPEAKER_01]: What up y'all?
- 2:31[SPEAKER_01]: Two of the best in the business.
- 2:32[SPEAKER_01]: Preach it.
- 2:33[SPEAKER_01]: Preach it.
- 2:33[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, probably.
- 2:34[SPEAKER_01]: Before we talk about football, you know, we could, this is, I want to say we're gonna keep it like a lighter episode, but this topic isn't that light.
- 2:41[SPEAKER_01]: I would feel like if we didn't talk about what is,
- 2:46[SPEAKER_01]: one of the most, which is weird, because it's a pop culture thing.
- 2:49[SPEAKER_01]: Now, number one thing on Netflix.
- 2:52[SPEAKER_01]: That's just briefly, just hit on the crash, just a little bit, just a little bit.
- 2:55[SPEAKER_01]: A little bit, well, if you've been living under a rock and you don't know what the crash is, is the documentary on Netflix and regards to a essentially, McKenzie, Scarilla, 17-year-old girl, murders her boyfriend and
- 3:09[SPEAKER_01]: friend of boyfriend in a car.
- 3:12[SPEAKER_01]: I had so the documentary wasn't new to me because I had heard of the case last year on YouTube on a on a true crime YouTube thing I came across.
- 3:20[SPEAKER_01]: I watched it last late last year.
- 3:22[SPEAKER_01]: So the documentary wasn't new to me.
- 3:25[SPEAKER_01]: Same dude.
- 3:26[SPEAKER_01]: I just want to speak to like the the part that just had me so in sense Ryan and we didn't even do introductions, but I don't I'm not gonna do it.
- 3:34[SPEAKER_01]: The part that just had me so in sense was listening to like Mackenzie's parents Bro as someone who is one a parent into a social worker Bro, I almost almost want to turn my TV down, right?
- 3:48[SPEAKER_00]: I just want to tear it down, bro
- 3:54[SPEAKER_00]: Like these are the parents every teenage once like these are the parents that just No no structure no I just like what no discipline just It was dancing there with a boom shirt on boom Don't mind a dress Bra just just just idiot did you okay?
- 4:18[SPEAKER_01]: So what that analogy?
- 4:20[SPEAKER_01]: Did you ever see mean girls at least once did you ever see mean girls at least once?
- 4:25[SPEAKER_00]: It probably was on.
- 4:25[SPEAKER_00]: I got, well, I'm so brief, played it a couple of times.
- 4:30[SPEAKER_01]: There, their parents reminded me of Amy Polis character.
- 4:35[SPEAKER_01]: So she's the mom of Rachel Adams and Mean Girls, where she just wants to be like the cool mom.
- 4:41[SPEAKER_01]: So she lets her daughter get away literally with everything.
- 4:44[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 4:45[SPEAKER_01]: That's what they
- 4:52[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, okay, so you letting your daughter who's 17 go move in with a 20 year old, like, first and foremost.
- 4:59[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, whoa.
- 5:01[SPEAKER_01]: And where's my older sister?
- 5:02[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my, whoa.
- 5:03[SPEAKER_01]: And you knew that she smoked marijuana and you didn't remember, and this is not, this is not a, I'm not trying to have a discussion on marijuana, but you're letting your underage daughter just, just smoke marijuana without repercussions, not knowing that she's smoking it in the car, driving in, and mushrooms, bro.
- 5:21[SPEAKER_00]: And it's from, I love it, look, come on, I mean, teenagers going to do what they do for sure.
- 5:27[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, what you've got to have like, that structure
- 5:33[SPEAKER_00]: Like, okay, like, you know, there's a line, you know what I'm saying is a line.
- 5:36[SPEAKER_00]: You could cross with me.
- 5:37[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
- 5:38[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't have no line for her.
- 5:41[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not, this is not, this is, I'm not, I don't want to, morning, morning, quarterback and then say, well, they would have had structure, maybe McKenzie would have turned out differently.
- 5:50[SPEAKER_01]: But I know one thing is that they didn't help.
- 5:53[SPEAKER_01]: Like, all the shit that she was,
- 5:56[SPEAKER_01]: getting away with and the way she treated people and the lack of accountability came straight from them.
- 6:02[SPEAKER_01]: Came straight from their lack of parent.
- 6:04[SPEAKER_00]: They're dead on the dead of a devion.
- 6:07[SPEAKER_00]: He ran it down perfectly like she like she needs to feel the discipline of it the consequences like she has gotten away.
- 6:17[SPEAKER_00]: I've never had enough of any kind of consequences whatsoever, you know what I'm saying.
- 6:21[SPEAKER_00]: Even through this, even through this tragedy, well, now she is because she's a prison, but even through now she got the free, free McKinsey thing going on.
- 6:30[SPEAKER_00]: You got the appeal going on and the other mother is just out there, clueless, like she is just the most innocent thing I would.
- 6:39[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, to people fan, what are you talking about?
- 6:42[SPEAKER_00]: What are you doing?
- 6:43[SPEAKER_01]: And then, and then McKenzie, someone who that ball said, what are we talking about?
- 6:47[SPEAKER_01]: We're talking about the show crash on Netflix, just because we're sorry about it.
- 6:50[SPEAKER_01]: Ain't no going on, y'all know what you're talking about.
- 6:52[SPEAKER_01]: Ain't no going on in a fail.
- 6:53[SPEAKER_01]: Ain't shit going on in a fail.
- 6:54[SPEAKER_01]: Like, we're gonna let this shit fly.
- 6:57[SPEAKER_01]: And apart, like, she, like, this is like her first time speaking after her conviction.
- 7:02[SPEAKER_01]: And she gets, like, on TV, in prison,
- 7:09[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I will say, the bullet at the top is going, but we're big of friends, they're all thanks.
- 7:17[SPEAKER_01]: Right now, like you don't kill two people.
- 7:22[SPEAKER_01]: You just go get on that looks like that like just no Contrition like it is oh, it was a it was a matting thing wait was this a real yeah It's a real event.
- 7:30[SPEAKER_01]: It's a documentary.
- 7:31[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's a documentary.
- 7:32[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, I just want to just briefly talk about it Because it's such a thing on everyone's like and and yeah, you gotta talk about how my mom In court
- 7:43[SPEAKER_00]: Oh boy, this isn't here at the sentence in the hearing.
- 7:46[SPEAKER_00]: Don't get me started with.
- 7:48[SPEAKER_00]: And she, what was the term she says?
- 7:51[SPEAKER_00]: He's a new friend.
- 7:54[SPEAKER_00]: And she's like, she's like, you know, you know, you know, we all loved him.
- 7:59[SPEAKER_00]: It didn't, you know, he was a new friend.
- 8:01[SPEAKER_00]: I think people die all the time.
- 8:04[SPEAKER_00]: Like people friends die all the time.
- 8:05[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, what is out?
- 8:07[SPEAKER_00]: The dude!
- 8:08[SPEAKER_00]: What the hell was so pissed, bro?
- 8:12[SPEAKER_00]: And I used to start with so tragic, because this is a kid that was, you know, the imminent system for us to children, get it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got
- 8:36[SPEAKER_00]: with something they had no idea what was going on.
- 8:39[SPEAKER_01]: If only he went on with the other, the other, the other friend.
- 8:42[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he was supposed to keep walking up.
- 8:44[SPEAKER_01]: Can we also talk about, like, McKenzie's friends that still thinks he don't run.
- 8:48[SPEAKER_00]: That, what you can do.
- 8:50[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, you could do about that.
- 8:51[SPEAKER_00]: Like a girl, girl, friend, like a girl is just like, stop her, up come on.
- 8:56[SPEAKER_01]: I couldn't stand her, bro.
- 8:57[SPEAKER_00]: I was getting, I was getting, he didn't, he was just straight being girls, bro.
- 9:00[SPEAKER_00]: Like, like you say, you're just straight up being girl.
- 9:01[SPEAKER_00]: They just look exactly like the trope.
- 9:05[SPEAKER_00]: of like the Mean Girls and like the little school in a small town, just, you know, they just look exactly like that, you know what I'm saying?
- 9:15[SPEAKER_01]: And they did.
- 9:16[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we got a whole separate whole true calm podcast.
- 9:20[SPEAKER_01]: Just react.
- 9:21[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, damn true crap.
- 9:25[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, let's let's talk about something less less depressing.
- 9:28[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully, is the 2026 Saints.
- 9:32[SPEAKER_01]: So OTA start, let's start tomorrow.
- 9:35[SPEAKER_01]: They start Wednesday.
- 9:36[SPEAKER_00]: 27 28.
- 9:39[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so Wednesday, we'll be starting the OTA, so we'll get our first, you know, interactions with the rookies and the vets and all that and that's it's starting to start wrapping up, but we should we.
- 9:54[SPEAKER_01]: Should we talk about the, so, so, let's bring it back a little bit before you go into this.
- 9:57[SPEAKER_01]: Like, so we got to talk about this Jackson dark thing that happened.
- 10:01[SPEAKER_01]: Like so much, so much, oh, can we talk about the Jackson, the Jackson dark thing?
- 10:06[SPEAKER_01]: I wanted to talk about it, because I think it is a fascinating case study of, I said to tweet out that people like completely didn't understand like at all or just whatever, but it's a fascinating thing to me in the sense of,
- 10:22[SPEAKER_01]: case you don't know Jackson Dart on one of, I don't know.
- 10:25[SPEAKER_01]: He interviewed, he introduced Donald Trump at one of his things.
- 10:30[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I can know what it was for.
- 10:31[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
- 10:32[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, very, very well said.
- 10:33[SPEAKER_01]: And teammate Abdul Carter goes on Twitter and says, he thought it was a, he thought he thought it was a, he thought it was a, he couldn't believe what he was seeing.
- 10:44[SPEAKER_01]: And then you have this,
- 10:48[SPEAKER_01]: firestorm of like that tweet that a dual car to put out like the last time I looked at it had like 32 million views for tweet for tweet.
- 10:57[SPEAKER_01]: And I tweeted out being that, you know, we're Saints fans and we know how people in Louisiana are just a deep south in general.
- 11:05[SPEAKER_01]: I said, I said, there are people right now who were Saints fans, probably which that they had jack and daughter's quarterback.
- 11:10[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 11:13[SPEAKER_01]: And that got Jay and I started talking
- 11:18[SPEAKER_01]: how fandom is so fascinating from a psychological standpoint, so fascinating.
- 11:25[SPEAKER_01]: Where two things can happen.
- 11:30[SPEAKER_01]: where if you have someone who may be like conservative a Trumper and Tyler Schuck is very staunchly a Democrat, you might kind of like, cup your eyes a little bit and be like, well, you're not there kind of you kind of, kind of bawling a little bit, like, you kind of bawling, I can not go from a Sunday's, but then you also then to you have the inverse, right?
- 11:50[SPEAKER_01]: Or maybe you're a more liberal thinker, or what happened in terms of how you align politically, and then there may be someone in your team.
- 12:00[SPEAKER_01]: Or, you know, we were talking about hurting like the Niners.
- 12:03[SPEAKER_01]: We're not pretty.
- 12:04[SPEAKER_01]: It's Republican first schedule.
- 12:06[SPEAKER_01]: Republican Nick Moser.
- 12:09[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, damn, line up.
- 12:12[SPEAKER_01]: And then then the question is, as a fan, where do you stand in terms of rooting?
- 12:20[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it was a whole deep thing, but the eventual thing that happened is I'm pretty sure John Harball made a call.
- 12:28[SPEAKER_00]: and say hey, I'm saying look man, you know, you try to do that little cool talk.
- 12:35[SPEAKER_00]: Look man, you know, everybody has their own little cool thoughts and opinions, you know, we're going to sit down and have a conversation.
- 12:42[SPEAKER_00]: You know, next week, me, God, we're going to talk about it.
- 12:46[SPEAKER_00]: Because I'm sure we all agree on a lot of things.
- 12:48[SPEAKER_00]: It's just a bit of things with discipline, but, you know.
- 12:52[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the little things, what was the little thing?
- 12:54[SPEAKER_01]: The little things, what's that we disagree on?
- 12:59[SPEAKER_01]: The crazy part of the whole thing is that the blowback for a dual Carter's tweet felt like it was more than what Jackson Dirt was actually doing.
- 13:10[SPEAKER_00]: They were calling it for Porsche Monkeys and all kind of stuff in the company's voice.
- 13:14[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, hey buddy, how dare you go online and talk about it and disrespect your quarterback online?
- 13:21[SPEAKER_00]: But like, I mean, you had, you had those Trump comments.
- 13:25[SPEAKER_00]: I know what the comments I'm talking about.
- 13:27[SPEAKER_00]: It's a very similar to the Derek Carr accounts that used to be in, okay, let me, let me stop putting up videos of him at, you know, getting drafted and his mom, you know, had the Muslim guard ball and stuff like that, talking about it, wasn't even out even American, all types of stuff.
- 13:41[SPEAKER_00]: Like, that's, that's, that's Trump's people.
- 13:44[SPEAKER_00]: Like, that's the type of reactions you get from this side.
- 13:47[SPEAKER_00]: So, I don't want to hear.
- 13:48[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to hear.
- 13:50[SPEAKER_01]: Don't win her.
- 13:51[SPEAKER_00]: I do Chris said white 49ers players group chat was on file and dark with Don't I don't it I don't know that group chat was not you know the little crew that went to the Was that a wedding or something like that?
- 14:03[SPEAKER_01]: Oh for our fever that that that that deep out of get divided to nigga
- 14:09[SPEAKER_01]: It was, it was George Kittles, no, no, no, it was George Kittles, a prize party.
- 14:13[SPEAKER_00]: That is why you know, it was Kittles, Chris, Chris Kaffrey, you, Kyle, you check, you check, you know, of course, Nick Bosa, of course.
- 14:22[SPEAKER_01]: Just the whole crew for us, but they was jealous, but I wanted to just get your thoughts on that juxtaposition of,
- 14:36[SPEAKER_01]: how fandom really does, how much of it it can be such a disease that comes Sunday like you like you don't even talk about two diseases competing because you've got to fandom disease.
- 14:51[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 14:51[SPEAKER_00]: You've got the political tribalism disease.
- 14:54[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
- 14:55[SPEAKER_00]: Like those are two different
- 14:57[SPEAKER_00]: two animals that kind of occupied the same space.
- 14:59[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I'm saying people die over politics.
- 15:02[SPEAKER_00]: People kill.
- 15:03[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
- 15:04[SPEAKER_00]: Like people could be terrorist acts about wrong politics.
- 15:07[SPEAKER_00]: Stuff like that.
- 15:08[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
- 15:09[SPEAKER_00]: And fan them.
- 15:10[SPEAKER_00]: Fan them is very close to that.
- 15:11[SPEAKER_00]: Like baby don't go to that point.
- 15:13[SPEAKER_00]: It's killing people, but like they will, they will get to that point.
- 15:18[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
- 15:18[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 15:19[SPEAKER_00]: If you didn't have been in some sales games up in that, but that terrorist level, you just see some stuff go down.
- 15:23[SPEAKER_00]: You know, especially they're in the Falcons again.
- 15:25[SPEAKER_00]: But so it's just interesting how they kind of actually probably, I could probably like a similar part of the brain, you know what I'm saying?
- 15:33[SPEAKER_00]: But like as a fan, like I used to be like, okay, we play a politics as man, just play ball.
- 15:39[SPEAKER_00]: I don't give a shit, but it was like politics didn't seem like a existential threat at the time.
- 15:45[SPEAKER_00]: It made me think I was just ignorant of my part.
- 15:47[SPEAKER_00]: And I wasn't ignorant on politics.
- 15:49[SPEAKER_00]: I very well understood it, but I never felt the existential threat.
- 15:55[SPEAKER_00]: like I do now, you know what I'm saying?
- 15:57[SPEAKER_00]: Like I feel like I feel like, okay, this is, this is like a really, really, really, really effective.
- 16:03[SPEAKER_00]: My life.
- 16:05[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and the people I love and friends and all that stuff, you know what I'm saying people I care about my people, you know, so it's just it just hit difference.
- 16:13[SPEAKER_00]: So I look at you very differently, where versus, you know, 2008, you voted for a John McCain, I was like, okay, whatever, you know what I'm saying, I look at this shit.
- 16:25[SPEAKER_00]: That's all you, but, you know, now is just like I'm looking at you very much style please, very much style ways, but,
- 16:33[SPEAKER_00]: Because now it's even worse than like 2016 because now you've had like years of evidence.
- 16:39[SPEAKER_00]: Years of evidence.
- 16:40[SPEAKER_00]: See.
- 16:41[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
- 16:42[SPEAKER_00]: What more do you need to see?
- 16:43[SPEAKER_00]: That's what can be about a dark like rainbow dude is now like where he he can eat not even popular amongst his own people.
- 16:50[SPEAKER_00]: It's the only only one's left.
- 16:52[SPEAKER_00]: Only one's left is the coach is like the coach like the people that are just going like nothing
- 17:03[SPEAKER_01]: That's my quarterback, not my not my not ours, even though the Saints tried trade up for him.
- 17:08[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, not ours, not all of this group, I just know that that Saint Zion's game just took a little a little a little more different meaning this season, a little more different meaning this season.
- 17:23[SPEAKER_01]: Shit, bud, you want to watch how's it going to be up there?
- 17:26[SPEAKER_01]: What's up, duck?
- 17:27[SPEAKER_01]: It go.
- 17:28[SPEAKER_00]: That's my guy.
- 17:29[SPEAKER_01]: That's my guy right there.
- 17:33[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, shout out to Justin Castle, $2 super chat.
- 17:37[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to read it, but he says that he's hope something happens to Jackson Dark.
- 17:41[SPEAKER_01]: Trump said that guaranteed P1er's a trumper.
- 17:44[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
- 17:46[SPEAKER_00]: What the hell?
- 17:47[SPEAKER_00]: What the hell?
- 17:50[SPEAKER_01]: He just eats his head to the ground.
- 17:53[SPEAKER_01]: Literally, nothing.
- 17:58[SPEAKER_00]: We did a child.
- 17:59[SPEAKER_00]: Like, we got a little way in the room.
- 18:01[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like,
- 18:03[SPEAKER_01]: And I get on the cruise.
- 18:06[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, now we're diving into the conversation.
- 18:10[SPEAKER_01]: Now we get into the saints.
- 18:11[SPEAKER_01]: And what would it look like if everything went right for them in 2026?
- 18:16[SPEAKER_01]: This is all like, I wanna preface this by saying, like this is a should be like a no-brainer when I'm gonna say, but overall health of the team is key.
- 18:31[SPEAKER_01]: if you look back, even just last year to the Patriots from the most part to the Seahawks from the most part, I know, I know Christian Gonzalez, missed some time early in the season, and fucking devil with his spoon was missed, like the first, I don't know, like four or five games for the Seahawks.
- 18:45[SPEAKER_01]: But it's not just about the help is when the team is healthy, is it just a crucial emotion factor for a team that's going to want to make a run.
- 18:56[SPEAKER_01]: And especially for the Saints,
- 18:59[SPEAKER_01]: There are like health questions, particularly like with the receiver that they draft draft, they draft an enduring Tyson.
- 19:05[SPEAKER_01]: His health is key.
- 19:06[SPEAKER_01]: How does to Lisa Fwaga's whole go this season?
- 19:10[SPEAKER_01]: And kind of a lynch of the entire offensive line is Eric McCoy.
- 19:14[SPEAKER_01]: Like we go, we're going into the season thinking that the most Error McCoy is going to give us maybe six games, maybe seven, right?
- 19:21[SPEAKER_01]: If they ain't going to go on a run, and if they ain't going right for them, like Airman Coinnie's to play majority of the season, if not the entire season, because that completely changes the whole demeanor of the offensive line.
- 19:35[SPEAKER_01]: And along with that is that,
- 19:38[SPEAKER_01]: Talk to just speaking about health in general, is that as good as this team has done the offseason and added pieces and gotten better, the depth on the team is still super slight.
- 19:51[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's still slight.
- 19:53[SPEAKER_01]: So this team can't afford to lose some of their bigger players health wise if they wanna really make a push and things go well in 2026.
- 20:07[SPEAKER_00]: receiver room is like a health risk, you know what I'm saying?
- 20:11[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you got Tyson, of course, let's talk about, um, I was doing live with, you know, his concussion issues back in the day.
- 20:21[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, the way we as these little chronic little tough problems, knee problems and shoulder problems for God.
- 20:28[SPEAKER_00]: Just a week, bro.
- 20:29[SPEAKER_00]: And just the way he plays, you know what I'm saying?
- 20:31[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's just a very physical style of footballs.
- 20:33[SPEAKER_00]: He's just going to get banged up.
- 20:37[SPEAKER_00]: So it's just a lot, it's a lot of, you know, it's just a lot of hope that we have to depend on.
- 20:42[SPEAKER_00]: But we are hoping like this with this podcast is about like, what if everything's going to be ready?
- 20:45[SPEAKER_00]: So what if?
- 20:46[SPEAKER_00]: to lay alive and taste and just stay healthy.
- 20:50[SPEAKER_00]: Just stay healthy, bro.
- 20:51[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, maybe miss a game here there, but overall just healthy for all the season.
- 20:55[SPEAKER_00]: And you talk about the offer to fly.
- 20:57[SPEAKER_00]: Whatever you get a full season out of here, McCoy, for why they're back.
- 21:01[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
- 21:02[SPEAKER_00]: He's back, healthy, you know what I'm saying?
- 21:04[SPEAKER_00]: Like, boy, now you, let's scare it, cause like last year, like really the defense,
- 21:10[SPEAKER_00]: The defense was really helpful this year.
- 21:12[SPEAKER_00]: There were a couple of nicks overall, but it was like mostly, there was the same defense from the started season to the end of the season, or for the most part.
- 21:21[SPEAKER_00]: All physically, it was a mess.
- 21:22[SPEAKER_00]: Like I think we had like, I think we had like the second most off to all physicalized combinations in a league or something like that.
- 21:30[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe that was the year before.
- 21:31[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
- 21:31[SPEAKER_00]: But I know the combinations was a lot.
- 21:33[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
- 21:34[SPEAKER_00]: We had will you show me now if they're playing off it's like, will you show me?
- 21:39[SPEAKER_00]: Bro, he was the back up to a sim riches and he was the maker
- 21:44[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Matt, he got treated.
- 21:46[SPEAKER_00]: Don't get rid of dines in there.
- 21:47[SPEAKER_00]: We had symptoms clear, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, game or two, um, luckily banks like banks was like a he man.
- 21:54[SPEAKER_01]: He played Hillary health, broke up for the last game.
- 21:57[SPEAKER_00]: We got, like, the last half of the last season.
- 21:59[SPEAKER_00]: He, uh, I was, I was like, there was something I was really backing on with no pun intended that he just played because he would have finished like the season with like, most steps by Ricky.
- 22:08[SPEAKER_00]: Like it was in a, he was on a, wow.
- 22:10[SPEAKER_00]: He picked over a thousand snaps of something like that.
- 22:12[SPEAKER_00]: It was crazy.
- 22:13[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so I was rooting for that.
- 22:14[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, you did a show that you can like maintain, just maintain the stamina and health.
- 22:19[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but yeah, man, this stay helped portion of it, bro.
- 22:22[SPEAKER_00]: Like, the healthy teams are the ones you usually see at the end of the season.
- 22:27[SPEAKER_00]: It's not just about being healthy all season.
- 22:28[SPEAKER_00]: Like you said, it's win your healthy, you know, the type of injuries you get.
- 22:32[SPEAKER_00]: You don't want to get those kind of lingering injuries.
- 22:36[SPEAKER_00]: where they just kind of play it through it and stuff like that.
- 22:38[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, you don't want to be knocked out for the season.
- 22:40[SPEAKER_00]: But you want guys, especially come, you know, November, December, to kind of be in the best and it's best shaped room, you know.
- 22:49[SPEAKER_01]: you do and like don't the health and injury thing is like a that's a a variable that like no one can control right no we're talking about going into OTAs talking about going into training camp like that's that's the the big thing that I want to see the most is just come out come out help me out OTAs come out help the other training camp and I think I think that was what Kelly's approach was last year.
- 23:11[SPEAKER_00]: where he wanted guys just to be able to get the work, like get the work in.
- 23:16[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe they didn't go as hard in certain areas, but they did do like a lot of reps last year.
- 23:23[SPEAKER_00]: So he wanted guys to get the work in.
- 23:24[SPEAKER_00]: So I think going into the season, they were fairly healthy going into the season.
- 23:30[SPEAKER_00]: But then as the season went along, nutrition took on.
- 23:34[SPEAKER_00]: It's just like you could do it.
- 23:35[SPEAKER_00]: Like you can't do it in the body.
- 23:36[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's football, it's physical sport.
- 23:39[SPEAKER_01]: You can't.
- 23:41[SPEAKER_01]: The next topic I want to get to, and we were talking about this a little bit in the discord today is what if Tyler's shock takes that Drake may in your two leap.
- 23:55[SPEAKER_01]: Now what Adam, what do you mean by Drake?
- 23:56[SPEAKER_01]: Now, if like the the real sick, sick,
- 24:05[SPEAKER_01]: saw what he did in the second half of the season.
- 24:07[SPEAKER_01]: And how he played, even though the Patriots didn't win a lot of games, they just went by how like what they saw in terms of the talent and what he was able to show even though that may have not led to wind.
- 24:20[SPEAKER_01]: Which shot the difference and the difference is
- 24:24[SPEAKER_01]: you solve some of that same similar like that promise the stuff that you can't teach.
- 24:29[SPEAKER_01]: You saw that in the second half of the season when he started playing after he got the Rams game and the Falcons game out of his way.
- 24:36[SPEAKER_01]: He really kind of took a trajectory, but with Tyler's shook largely because of the defense, but with Tyler's shook he also got the wins too.
- 24:45[SPEAKER_01]: He won games.
- 24:47[SPEAKER_01]: They went on a run.
- 24:48[SPEAKER_01]: So what if in year two for Tyler Chuck, he takes that drink me step where he's, I'm not going to say to the level of in the imp, because Drake made finish second in MP people.
- 24:58[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to say to that level, but what if he's in he for he firmly submits himself as at the end of year two, you are saying that
- 25:09[SPEAKER_01]: Tyler Schuck is a top 10 quarterback.
- 25:11[SPEAKER_01]: Also kind of similar in a degree that, and I'm not comparing them as prospect, but you see, you saw what Caleb Williams from his rookie season to the second season.
- 25:21[SPEAKER_01]: Now Caleb Williams, you could argue, isn't the most like efficient quarterback?
- 25:25[SPEAKER_01]: Like he,
- 25:26[SPEAKER_01]: definitely strike to me as someone who is kind of like a three point shooter where he's more strength like but once he gets but once he gets going is like and he's he's a closer like he closes games and and ways we have not seen you know and I think the way the season ended
- 25:42[SPEAKER_00]: stamped him like, you know, I'm saying, like, him down the stretch was like, who?
- 25:46[SPEAKER_00]: Because when he played the Saints, like, he didn't play great against the Saints, he played, you know, he did not play well at all that game.
- 25:52[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, it's played really, like, played really well against them.
- 25:55[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 25:57[SPEAKER_00]: But like, you know, the way he finished the season out, and the playoffs and the other season, okay, like, we see it, like we see it, not we see it.
- 26:07[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to say it to that degree, but what a Tyler shook show.
- 26:11[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's the hope, right?
- 26:12[SPEAKER_00]: That's the hope is like, you finished this season, thinking like, he's our guy.
- 26:17[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's not no more of these little qualifiers, like, you know, maybe F about, you want to be able to finish the season, like, that's QB1.
- 26:26[SPEAKER_00]: Like that's how QB1 we're looking at the draft, we ain't even worry about none of that.
- 26:31[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to continue building around this.
- 26:33[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to get our defense in place, we're going to have.
- 26:36[SPEAKER_00]: you know, bringing this coach to something to help in this area, whatever, like we are doing whatever to get this guy, get this team to the Super Bowl, because that's what you want, but because like, officially, that's your marriage is what you want, but like,
- 26:48[SPEAKER_00]: I was looking at some stats earlier today.
- 26:50[SPEAKER_00]: Saints were 26th in the league in scoring drives.
- 26:54[SPEAKER_00]: Score drives.
- 26:55[SPEAKER_00]: So that's feel-go or touchdown.
- 26:58[SPEAKER_00]: 26th, bro.
- 26:59[SPEAKER_00]: And it didn't matter if Chuck already likes it.
- 27:02[SPEAKER_00]: Rattler had 30 scoring drives.
- 27:04[SPEAKER_00]: Guess how many shook eight?
- 27:05[SPEAKER_00]: 30, I guess, same.
- 27:07[SPEAKER_01]: Like I just always just, just, just as it was, as offense, like that you could do it, but, and I don't want to excuse either of them.
- 27:19[SPEAKER_01]: how much it would have gone up if the team got rid of Blake Groupie sooner than wait, no wait, no wait, no, they probably was like 10 scores, 10 extra scores.
- 27:29[SPEAKER_00]: There we best out, because it would be terrible special teams and stuff like that.
- 27:34[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, just offensively like every statistic you look at, which is why, like I know like that, like people get made like to national media for that being like up on shut.
- 27:43[SPEAKER_00]: and stuff like that.
- 27:44[SPEAKER_00]: Like a lot of the smart ones are, but like, just a general rule like that, so NFL media, they're like, you know what I'm saying?
- 27:50[SPEAKER_00]: Cause they're not watching states, right?
- 27:51[SPEAKER_00]: Like, they're not watching states versus Titans, you know what I'm saying?
- 27:55[SPEAKER_00]: Like, they're not watching things.
- 27:56[SPEAKER_00]: Which was a great game.
- 27:57[SPEAKER_00]: Great game.
- 27:57[SPEAKER_00]: Wait, you know what I'm saying?
- 27:59[SPEAKER_00]: But they are not watching that shit.
- 28:00[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
- 28:01[SPEAKER_00]: They're not cracking the tape open and another thing stuff.
- 28:03[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to look at the stats and the stats weren't great.
- 28:05[SPEAKER_00]: Like the stat, the
- 28:07[SPEAKER_00]: The all the the QB metrics even the EPS stuff.
- 28:10[SPEAKER_00]: It was not great.
- 28:11[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, some good stats.
- 28:13[SPEAKER_00]: There's third down stuff.
- 28:14[SPEAKER_00]: I was doing this stat like money down money down efficiency or whatever.
- 28:19[SPEAKER_00]: So like third and foot down nine garbage time.
- 28:23[SPEAKER_00]: You know, so when the game matters, he was like, I want to say 14th in the league, just on those throws and EPA efficiency, you know what I'm saying?
- 28:31[SPEAKER_00]: Like, those are like, it's like, just, you really got a drill down to look at, those are some real promising stats you could look at and, you know, build the point.
- 28:40[SPEAKER_00]: So, I'm just happy that the Saints took the approach of, we're going to build it around that position this all season, because they've taken the way
- 28:52[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, a failure, you know what I'm saying now we're talking like we just talked about the injuries and all that stuff that also has to go on to play But we had this dude throwing the Riley bail and I teed Pettis and Evan all in the back real Kevin Austin, Judy, and then no There's respect to Kevin Austin, Jimmy from but like nice little like why we're seeing five brother But he was like right we're seeing for two and like a lot a couple of weeks of a season
- 29:22[SPEAKER_01]: I kept one, I got them, the slas bro, that slas, I guess that falcus game, bra over and over again, bra, just got anyway.
- 29:29[SPEAKER_01]: This is the positive podcast, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
- 29:32[SPEAKER_01]: Let me catch up with the chat real quick.
- 29:34[SPEAKER_01]: Justin Cash said, my bow prediction, Tyler shook, 33 touchdowns, eight interceptions.
- 29:41[SPEAKER_00]: Ooh, ooh, I think that would have, would they have led the league last year?
- 29:46[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think, maybe you stepped on it.
- 29:50[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it meant you stepped on it.
- 29:53[SPEAKER_00]: I have to look that up.
- 29:54[SPEAKER_01]: Hold on, hold on, look, I'm looking to the right now.
- 29:58[SPEAKER_01]: 46, I think that's about the 50s.
- 29:59[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm telling this just now.
- 30:01[SPEAKER_00]: But I think second or third would have been like in the 30s and something like that.
- 30:06[SPEAKER_00]: Like it was not a prolific season, but I'm like, it was a great person.
- 30:10[SPEAKER_00]: Drake made through me 31.
- 30:12[SPEAKER_00]: So he was second.
- 30:14[SPEAKER_00]: I would guess he was second.
- 30:15[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, yeah, he could go on.
- 30:18[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but I'm just saying like 33 touchdowns
- 30:24[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.
- 30:25[SPEAKER_01]: This is why we need a producer.
- 30:29[SPEAKER_01]: So Matthew Stafford through 46, direct golf through 34, oh, this is not, okay, sorry, it's going by yards.
- 30:35[SPEAKER_01]: Jerk golf was second with 34, Drake made with 3rd with 31, and then decked fourth with 3rd, like those are, 33 would have been, 33 would have been 3rd, 3rd.
- 30:46[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like we from the day is jubries.
- 30:49[SPEAKER_00]: That was a down here for jubries.
- 30:50[SPEAKER_01]: Like they're right.
- 30:52[SPEAKER_00]: Like words of how's a light word here.
- 30:54[SPEAKER_00]: So man, if it shook, could do that.
- 30:56[SPEAKER_00]: In this, which I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility, bro.
- 31:00[SPEAKER_00]: But man, like,
- 31:02[SPEAKER_00]: I want to see, yeah, how many did it last year?
- 31:04[SPEAKER_00]: 12, 10.
- 31:05[SPEAKER_00]: Something like that.
- 31:06[SPEAKER_00]: Well, growing, growing alone.
- 31:08[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, 10.
- 31:09[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, 10.
- 31:10[SPEAKER_00]: But total, I want to say 12 or 13.
- 31:12[SPEAKER_01]: That sounds about right.
- 31:13[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because he had the two run.
- 31:15[SPEAKER_01]: He's three.
- 31:16[SPEAKER_01]: I think he had three rushing touchdowns.
- 31:17[SPEAKER_01]: So I think he had total 13.
- 31:19[SPEAKER_00]: So you can see on pace for like 24.
- 31:21[SPEAKER_00]: So like 33 with them proved, we're like, improved.
- 31:27[SPEAKER_00]: Offers of line, it proves past game, to prove tight ends, prove running game.
- 31:33[SPEAKER_00]: Like 33 is not out of the realm of possibilities.
- 31:36[SPEAKER_00]: I go like a little conservative, and maybe say like 28, you know what I'm saying?
- 31:42[SPEAKER_00]: Like 28 touchdowns.
- 31:45[SPEAKER_00]: But maybe his 30 plus, like total touchdowns.
- 31:48[SPEAKER_00]: Like running against the history of that.
- 31:50[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that I could see, man, that would be a crazy seat.
- 31:54[SPEAKER_01]: Like that would be like if he got 33,
- 31:57[SPEAKER_01]: It's either one or two things are happening either they are like really like he's like command the offense he's looks like that dude and this could still happen, but it also could look like the defense ain't keeping up there in the bargain that he got to go out there and throw it.
- 32:12[SPEAKER_01]: Devon attorney 72 86 that I wasn't that in front of me Caleb Williams or the bears run last season, but that is the idea of a jump.
- 32:20[SPEAKER_01]: I don't, I don't know what else can we see to make it to show.
- 32:23[SPEAKER_00]: Like, look, man, like that Ben Johnson off his tough breath.
- 32:27[SPEAKER_00]: And I think I like, like Ben Johnson kind of grounded them down to build them, like back up, you know what I'm saying?
- 32:34[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I like the way he did the whole thing.
- 32:36[SPEAKER_00]: And I think he just showed us a total of there's a better quarterback down in the stretch.
- 32:40[SPEAKER_00]: Still things you want to face, like he's still jumps out of the pocket two quick and stuff like that.
- 32:44[SPEAKER_00]: But like,
- 32:46[SPEAKER_00]: They like the goods to eat my man Rajas bro like Earl like earlier early early early Aaron Rajas we need we need when he came first broke out without the three years of sitting behind Breathful right Next thing next thing and then we'll take a break and then come back What if all the I want to say second-year players and that they drafted last year Take a leap
- 33:10[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm talking, you know, in a sanker.
- 33:12[SPEAKER_01]: I'm talking, Quincy Riley, would have Danny Stuttman just comes in the training camp, but just snatches the starting linebacker job away from Pete Warner, just because he, he just so good.
- 33:21[SPEAKER_01]: You can't keep them off the field.
- 33:24[SPEAKER_01]: That would be such a,
- 33:27[SPEAKER_01]: crucial part, such a crucial part for this team to take this next step, because I are those three players I named.
- 33:34[SPEAKER_01]: And it kind of goes in the bigger picture of the second-year players, those are three defensive players that I named.
- 33:40[SPEAKER_01]: What if also this is kind of 211?
- 33:44[SPEAKER_01]: This brand is daily defense that we're expecting to take like a step back and you have a down season.
- 33:50[SPEAKER_01]: What if it even gets what if it gets better than it was last year because of the because of that second year growth in those three players.
- 33:58[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, I'm asked before a lot.
- 34:01[SPEAKER_00]: Well, if I'm not.
- 34:01[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I was asking.
- 34:02[SPEAKER_00]: And it's going to love, but I think I don't think it's crazy at all, bro.
- 34:05[SPEAKER_00]: Cause like the more I watch.
- 34:07[SPEAKER_00]: the stale defense on all 22.
- 34:10[SPEAKER_00]: The more confused that came away.
- 34:12[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought, say, this nigga, no, what the fuck he was watching, bro?
- 34:14[SPEAKER_00]: You got to have Cody, you got to have Cody on face times like, hey, I'm like, I got to get Cody number.
- 34:19[SPEAKER_00]: Bro, like, what is going on?
- 34:20[SPEAKER_00]: Like, how are they doing this?
- 34:21[SPEAKER_00]: How?
- 34:23[SPEAKER_00]: It was just hard to figure out like how they were able to be just so efficient down the stretch.
- 34:28[SPEAKER_00]: But he just, he did a such a good job of just adapting to offense.
- 34:32[SPEAKER_00]: Like if you are a member of the world, like always almost every week, early in games,
- 34:36[SPEAKER_00]: Team would go out down the score, that just go down a little defensive score, it's like, oh, no, here we go, but then like it's a game with a long it's just like
- 34:44[SPEAKER_00]: a fighter man.
- 34:45[SPEAKER_00]: It's just like he just tightened up and tightened up.
- 34:47[SPEAKER_00]: So he did such a good job of just a Justin schematically with the players that he had.
- 34:52[SPEAKER_00]: Tation was a terror on a edge and just in the second area, I still don't know how you do it, right?
- 34:57[SPEAKER_00]: He just did some funky coverage stuff that kept like teams confused.
- 35:01[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe you can do it again, bro, like, and like you're saying, like, what if the
- 35:07[SPEAKER_00]: takes the step forward.
- 35:08[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
- 35:08[SPEAKER_00]: What I'm saying could take the step forward.
- 35:11[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
- 35:11[SPEAKER_00]: What they're playing better than they were in the last year, which they should.
- 35:14[SPEAKER_00]: Like, Raleigh, you could tell with him, he played well, but he was a youth worker corner, so there were times he's made his own, don't know what to, what are he's looking at?
- 35:22[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
- 35:22[SPEAKER_00]: We get to offense.
- 35:23[SPEAKER_00]: He's picking a wrong guy.
- 35:25[SPEAKER_00]: The guy goes from my right pass and we're just like working with stakes.
- 35:28[SPEAKER_00]: So what of a second year Raleigh is looking at that?
- 35:31[SPEAKER_00]: And he's ready for it.
- 35:31[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
- 35:32[SPEAKER_00]: Like he's not making those mistakes this time.
- 35:35[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, bro.
- 35:36[SPEAKER_00]: Still, still, it might be up out of here, she did.
- 35:39[SPEAKER_01]: I think the perfect example of what you gave was that damn bill was game.
- 35:44[SPEAKER_01]: We, for, I want to say I forgot what we could do.
- 35:47[SPEAKER_01]: It was early in the season.
- 35:48[SPEAKER_01]: And the bills go, they scored early, but what they did defensively from like, second quarter to like,
- 35:57[SPEAKER_01]: or at least fourth quarter.
- 36:00[SPEAKER_01]: For a bit, well, if I was like, did this Nick is going to build?
- 36:03[SPEAKER_01]: Is this big a build?
- 36:05[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, you had Yona Sanker make that incredible intercept training that game.
- 36:10[SPEAKER_01]: So that's like the perfect example about thinking of games that, you know, that, like,
- 36:16[SPEAKER_01]: really emphasizes and captures what Brandon said he does is that bill is game because they came up that game and scored an early touchdown and then you had they had Josh Allen like he was from his brother he was he was he was he was forcing throws and I was like what is what is happening and that was without chase young if I remember correctly because he would help you that game he went out to you yeah yeah
- 36:38[SPEAKER_00]: wasn't that healthy for.
- 36:40[SPEAKER_00]: So like the whole prediction of the defense taking the step back like we were like I understand it and it very much well good.
- 36:48[SPEAKER_00]: But like don't sleep on like a second year's daily like having his guys like tuned up and ready to go.
- 36:53[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
- 36:54[SPEAKER_00]: On a complex defense that they understand now and ready to go and work like it might they might actually go there and lock things up, bro.
- 37:03[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to give you an example.
- 37:05[SPEAKER_01]: There it is.
- 37:07[SPEAKER_01]: What brand necessarily did last season remind me of what Chris Shula did with the ram's last season, but what they much less talented defense because like their games.
- 37:25[SPEAKER_01]: We saw a lot of Rams games last season because of just who they were top of the league whatever.
- 37:30[SPEAKER_01]: But there are games that you watch at Rams defensively and that defensive line was not getting home.
- 37:36[SPEAKER_01]: Jerk.
- 37:36[SPEAKER_01]: Birch with a getting home.
- 37:37[SPEAKER_01]: Call me copes.
- 37:38[SPEAKER_00]: Certainly there was all over the place.
- 37:41[SPEAKER_01]: But there also games you'd watch were like date.
- 37:44[SPEAKER_01]: Like everything would be such so in sync and it would perfectly
- 37:51[SPEAKER_01]: You know, no surprise was a former Ram's defense coordinator on their run to the Super Bowl.
- 37:55[SPEAKER_01]: He did to me, some like the similar, I'm not trying to compare their concepts like defensive scheme.
- 38:02[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just talking about in terms of how they run.
- 38:06[SPEAKER_01]: He did things defensively on the side of the ball that felt very similar to Chris Schuillett, but would just much lesser talent, just across the board.
- 38:14[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, man, I agree with that.
- 38:16[SPEAKER_00]: That's a good one.
- 38:16[SPEAKER_00]: I think I think just the way Stanley approaches the game I think he approaches it very much for like a probability standpoint.
- 38:25[SPEAKER_00]: Like what what are all if it's the most likely to do on third nine?
- 38:29[SPEAKER_00]: What did they do here?
- 38:29[SPEAKER_00]: What did they do there?
- 38:30[SPEAKER_00]: You know, from different formations.
- 38:32[SPEAKER_00]: What to expect there?
- 38:33[SPEAKER_00]: I think you just really good at something that out there in the game.
- 38:37[SPEAKER_00]: Being really smart, something that out and then adjusting as he goes along.
- 38:42[SPEAKER_01]: Let me hit on this point to kind of piggyback off for what you're saying and we're going to take our brick and we're going to come back.
- 38:48[SPEAKER_01]: Second Tampa big game.
- 38:50[SPEAKER_01]: They played Tampa and Tampa.
- 38:52[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it was in Tampa.
- 38:53[SPEAKER_01]: And in the first game against Tampa, they had gotten the goal on stance against the Tampa B books at the one.
- 39:01[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't let them score.
- 39:02[SPEAKER_01]: Tampa Bay tried to run it four times and got shut down four times.
- 39:06[SPEAKER_01]: This was the first game against Tampa Bay at home.
- 39:13[SPEAKER_01]: He had the D prep perfectly because, kind of speaking to the whole thing about probability, is like, hey, we try to get a first, we try to score a touchdown, going up the middle, got shut down.
- 39:27[SPEAKER_01]: So if we get in a similar situation, offensively as the bucks,
- 39:31[SPEAKER_01]: we're going to go outside on fourth down because they're going to think we're going to go inside because we went inside four times.
- 39:38[SPEAKER_01]: He had the D prepped perfectly knowing that they were going to go outside to try to convert on on fourth down.
- 39:44[SPEAKER_01]: They went outside and they get shut down.
- 39:47[SPEAKER_01]: And I just remember that play so well because the defense is going off the screen.
- 39:51[SPEAKER_01]: They all amped and branded highly gives a like gives a little
- 39:54[SPEAKER_01]: He gives a wink right here.
- 39:56[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, they're out.
- 39:57[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 39:58[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody's saying what?
- 39:59[SPEAKER_01]: He's saying what?
- 40:01[SPEAKER_01]: That's the thing about probability where like kind of just what you said is that he...
- 40:07[SPEAKER_01]: guest right that this team was so like we shut them down so well going up the middle on a short yard situation that the next time we play them they're not going to try to go up the middle.
- 40:18[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to try to go outside to get it.
- 40:20[SPEAKER_01]: He guessed right got shut down.
- 40:22[SPEAKER_01]: I know going into last season like we were we had our concerns about Brennan saline, whatever and it's still a long way to go.
- 40:29[SPEAKER_01]: But he
- 40:34[SPEAKER_01]: If he can build upon that this year, he can build on it.
- 40:38[SPEAKER_01]: You, you, you cooking with something right there.
- 40:40[SPEAKER_01]: You cooking with something right there.
- 40:42[SPEAKER_01]: Let's take our first break.
- 40:43[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to come back and then continue to talk about what if things go right for the Saints in the 2026 season, what would that look like right after this break?
- 40:50[SPEAKER_01]: We'll be back right after this.
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- 42:29[SPEAKER_01]: All right, I don't want by the gave us two things, multiple things.
- 42:33[SPEAKER_01]: Hit me and hit me once we start that with that, with things go right to thousand twenty-six for the sense of what it would be.
- 42:39[SPEAKER_00]: What if Kelly Moore is his offensive vision comes to form?
- 42:49[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm, what just what just cannibal really wanted to cannibal wants to be useful.
- 42:54[SPEAKER_00]: He wants to be able to attack teams At whatever day week this is is he wants to be able to play fast.
- 43:02[SPEAKER_00]: He wants to be able to attack dial fields for an intermediate And he wants to be able to run the rock and like run the shit out of teams.
- 43:10[SPEAKER_00]: What if he comes to fruition?
- 43:12[SPEAKER_00]: What if Travis H.A.
- 43:14[SPEAKER_00]: it is like
- 43:15[SPEAKER_00]: just hitting his stride as in his career just at that point where he's, you know, fourteen hundred yards running back, you know, twelve thirteen fourteen hundred yards running back, you know, catching a ball and running a ball.
- 43:26[SPEAKER_00]: Offensively, you had David Edwards, they really be able to run that rock, you know, up the middle, on the side, on the left side, what if,
- 43:35[SPEAKER_00]: three tight-end thing works, you know, with upgrades, you know, Oscar Delb, Noah Fant, he was an up in the past game and then the run game, 12 turns personnel, 13 personnel, attack continues, like, what if this killing war, vision of a offense really starts to cook, cause something what we used to ask last year, around this time, like, even during the season, like, what is a killing war offense?
- 43:57[SPEAKER_00]: Like, cause he's always, he's always like,
- 44:04[SPEAKER_00]: deck, Justin Herbert, uh, was squirted back in the field of name, yelling hurts.
- 44:10[SPEAKER_00]: I just completely different, uh, completely different quarterbacks.
- 44:14[SPEAKER_00]: And he's named it like, mold is, quote, his offices around him, just a woodlight to tools he had.
- 44:20[SPEAKER_00]: But like this is his show now.
- 44:21[SPEAKER_00]: Like this is his show.
- 44:22[SPEAKER_00]: Broiling guy, his guy, he's a player's, he drafted, you know, got the quarterback.
- 44:27[SPEAKER_00]: He drafted, you know what I'm saying?
- 44:28[SPEAKER_00]: Like, this is his show.
- 44:29[SPEAKER_00]: And he's building it from the ground up.
- 44:31[SPEAKER_00]: And him, Tyler Shuck already talked about it.
- 44:33[SPEAKER_00]: Him and Kelly just been talking to us all season all the tweaks and things.
- 44:36[SPEAKER_00]: He wanted to do, my Tyler Shuck made a good point talking about like, man, this is Kelly Morris for his time being able to like,
- 44:42[SPEAKER_00]: actually build on last year because he's always been moving to different spots and stuff like that up the outside of Dallas, but even in Dallas, he was such a young coach.
- 44:51[SPEAKER_00]: He was kind of like a him and McCarthy kind of thing.
- 44:54[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
- 44:55[SPEAKER_00]: So this is like really him really be able to build his vision.
- 44:58[SPEAKER_00]: What if that vision is fine?
- 45:00[SPEAKER_00]: Like what if that vision is like a
- 45:06[SPEAKER_01]: That's it bro, that's how we used to eat bro, breakfast, so far away.
- 45:13[SPEAKER_00]: Remember there's that that's that I've mentioned earlier about the, you know, uh, most corn drives and whatever.
- 45:20[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, that's easy.
- 45:21[SPEAKER_00]: from 2006 to 2020.
- 45:23[SPEAKER_00]: So the whole entire breeze paid in 10 year.
- 45:27[SPEAKER_00]: The Saints were second overall in the NFL.
- 45:31[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to happen.
- 45:32[SPEAKER_00]: Second, right?
- 45:33[SPEAKER_00]: That's how good we was eating.
- 45:35[SPEAKER_00]: That's why people who started saying, that's why we was just the Derek Korn and the peak card market and all that we just wasn't having it.
- 45:42[SPEAKER_00]: Breckles, we have been eating corn.
- 45:44[SPEAKER_01]: Where you can't go from a, you can't have a 10 in your life and then go and end down great.
- 45:50[SPEAKER_01]: You can't you can't eat at roost crisp and get used to roost crisp or eat us.
- 45:53[SPEAKER_01]: They call us and then go to T. J. Friday's.
- 45:56[SPEAKER_01]: That's no offense to T. J. Friday's.
- 46:00[SPEAKER_00]: But when you you store certain lifestyle, they're going to like it just becomes a part of you.
- 46:05[SPEAKER_00]: You can't.
- 46:08[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I, we've been eating good, bro.
- 46:10[SPEAKER_00]: So I need to kill and bring that bag.
- 46:12[SPEAKER_00]: And I know he wants to.
- 46:12[SPEAKER_00]: I know that's, I know that's vision.
- 46:14[SPEAKER_00]: He wants to be a prolific artist.
- 46:15[SPEAKER_00]: He's had prolific offices.
- 46:17[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 46:17[SPEAKER_00]: It is in his life.
- 46:19[SPEAKER_00]: So I just want to see that come to fruition.
- 46:21[SPEAKER_00]: And what if they have this, bro?
- 46:22[SPEAKER_00]: Like that, that will change the game.
- 46:24[SPEAKER_00]: They'll boy, they'll change the game.
- 46:25[SPEAKER_01]: They'll change the game.
- 46:26[SPEAKER_01]: I know one thing.
- 46:27[SPEAKER_01]: Them, them zooms would be lit as fuck, bro.
- 46:33[SPEAKER_01]: We ain't even half zooms like that.
- 46:34[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even know if the zooms won't be like, bro.
- 46:37[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even know.
- 46:37[SPEAKER_01]: I need to, one thing I should maybe do this this off season is go back and cut some of like the plays from like the best plays in the Zoom and from last season, like, you know, like shut, like shut, like shut, like such bus plays on the action and what have here in post those.
- 46:53[SPEAKER_01]: It's just, you know, there's just so much, it's just so much to do in the season.
- 46:56[SPEAKER_01]: I just didn't get a chance to last season.
- 46:58[SPEAKER_01]: To our dude Tony said, we got used to eating state bad to subsists off a dog through the last several years.
- 47:03[SPEAKER_01]: It's been, it's been bad, it's been bad, it's been bad, it's not even, it's not even sales, it's been a mistake, we're just, it's not, it's not that bad.
- 47:11[SPEAKER_01]: Another what if I had, if what if this rookie class hits the ground, run it?
- 47:22[SPEAKER_01]: And we're not even talking about his injuries.
- 47:24[SPEAKER_01]: We're talking about, man, Chris, a lot of a Jordan Tyson, it flip flops of who, why receiver one is, depending on who they play it.
- 47:34[SPEAKER_01]: Like, like, sometimes Jordan Tyson might be going, going ham, sometimes Chris, a lot of them may be going ham.
- 47:39[SPEAKER_01]: Like we got maybe two rovers of your ones or two very high level rovers of your twos that are close to rovers of your ones.
- 47:46[SPEAKER_01]: What if,
- 47:48[SPEAKER_01]: Chris and Miller comes in and starts just reconhabic in the middle of the field.
- 47:52[SPEAKER_01]: What is Oscar Dep and now this is a lot to ask, especially for Ricky Tidehan, but what he comes in and gives a little, who he compared himself to as a player, a little AJ Barner to the offense, given that that, that, um, in terms of that multiplicity where he's good in the run game and in the passing game.
- 48:11[SPEAKER_01]: If this rookie class can hit the ground, running and it's hard sometimes as a hard ask for rookie to do.
- 48:19[SPEAKER_01]: But if they hit the ground, running, that would just help lift the team to a completely another level where then things really can start getting moving and start and start humming.
- 48:31[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, let's franchise change it for her because we've already said we already see it like, okay, it looks like they had a really good draft place here, you know what I'm saying, especially, you know, consider a title suck, you know, that stuff, but you know, that if that continues to look positive in the show group and you, it on this class, you'll follow a place.
- 48:54[SPEAKER_00]: What if during my right to train a camp that they came, they said they saw not to even start 51, we won.
- 49:02[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we just got to get up and walk away there.
- 49:05[SPEAKER_00]: It's like this is too good.
- 49:07[SPEAKER_00]: This is just too good.
- 49:09[SPEAKER_01]: That was us when they dropped it, Bryce Lentz and Ralph where we said, what do I do in my hands, that's what struck do I, I don't know,
- 49:23[SPEAKER_00]: This is just too much goodness.
- 49:25[SPEAKER_00]: No, man, you, you, you, you, you, you mess around.
- 49:28[SPEAKER_00]: You get, Jeremiah, right out there, Big Selma, and he, replace Caesar and play good.
- 49:36[UNKNOWN]: What?
- 49:37[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, what if, what if, what if, what if, what if, what if, what if, what if, what if he's that, like, trying to think about Caesar, a comparable Caesar.
- 49:48[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and people gonna laugh at this, but what if he's, what if it was that?
- 49:55[SPEAKER_00]: They 2019, oh, you're going to say what he's meant.
- 49:58[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's a trick on Smith, bro.
- 50:00[SPEAKER_01]: I thought you'd buy the throw a tag in low, low nugget in there.
- 50:05[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, shit.
- 50:06[SPEAKER_00]: She's like 2018 to get shit out.
- 50:10[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm just like, well, but I'll take that.
- 50:13[SPEAKER_00]: It is getting a week, you know what I'm saying?
- 50:15[SPEAKER_00]: But if he's dead, or I'll just say like a three-point Smith, just like I forget the beer he called that touchdown.
- 50:20[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was 2018.
- 50:21[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was 2018.
- 50:23[SPEAKER_01]: And Drew Drew Breeze reckoned versus Washington and all that stuff.
- 50:26[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, you know, it wasn't like a great year, but like it was like, you know, trick on me, it's in place.
- 50:30[SPEAKER_00]: He may play somewhere like the next year, season.
- 50:32[SPEAKER_00]: He was like, okay, it was trick on going to make that stuff.
- 50:34[SPEAKER_00]: Like he's going to make a leap.
- 50:36[SPEAKER_00]: No, he didn't.
- 50:36[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, you know, he had, you know, yeah, like a season where there was a little bit of hope.
- 50:41[SPEAKER_00]: Just a little bit of right.
- 50:42[SPEAKER_00]: He would be like, that'll why I received a one, but like a good, you know, just a good two, three type, why I received her.
- 50:48[SPEAKER_00]: But they could score like, you know, because they let's try.
- 50:50[SPEAKER_00]: Come on, dude, do you this goes to touchdowns, right?
- 50:52[SPEAKER_00]: He did, right?
- 50:52[SPEAKER_00]: People at the ball in the paint didn't do much of that else.
- 50:55[SPEAKER_00]: But no, it's going to touchdowns.
- 50:57[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, in price, let's give us that.
- 51:00[SPEAKER_00]: And what if young boy out of LSU, what if he, like, which, I think, you just took a little shit, kick with him around.
- 51:06[SPEAKER_00]: Like, like, run if he really, look at what, like, Rashiz, he did for the Seahawks.
- 51:11[SPEAKER_00]: Like, as soon as he, as soon as he, soon as he made it, he, like, changed the game for them.
- 51:14[SPEAKER_00]: Just as a returner.
- 51:16[SPEAKER_00]: What if he does the same thing, given a short field?
- 51:18[SPEAKER_00]: I just keep returning touchdowns like short fields.
- 51:21[SPEAKER_00]: I've got a field position and stuff like that.
- 51:23[SPEAKER_00]: Start net the 50-year line on the opponent's 60 and 40 or whatever.
- 51:27[SPEAKER_00]: Like man, then you really make it life easier for all fans.
- 51:32[SPEAKER_01]: Followed up with that because I was gonna bring this up but I'm just gonna lump it all together.
- 51:36[SPEAKER_01]: What if your special team just has a massive improvement in general?
- 51:39[SPEAKER_01]: What does Charlie Smith, like, he is like a legit, like, kicker, like, you, or you're not like, he, like, he did it, he did it.
- 51:48[SPEAKER_00]: It didn't sign a young old one.
- 51:49[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't sign a young old.
- 51:50[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't, they didn't sign a young old.
- 51:52[SPEAKER_00]: What are the young old narrative for him?
- 51:54[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's all good.
- 51:57[SPEAKER_00]: It's a position to watch, bro.
- 51:59[SPEAKER_00]: I like Charlie Smith, man, but, you know, we got to see how that plays out.
- 52:04[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but yeah, like just special teams like they go on to go up, or like, please like, they were awful last year.
- 52:11[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody got the we got the new planner.
- 52:13[SPEAKER_00]: Um, we got Ryan right.
- 52:15[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 52:16[SPEAKER_00]: So hopefully things will be better.
- 52:19[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it needs to be for like, for this team to be better, special teams need to be much better.
- 52:23[SPEAKER_00]: Much, so whatever, so whatever they do, whatever they do take this to for, to where they're like, on top 15 special teams, you know, exam.
- 52:31[SPEAKER_00]: where, you know, they're going to kick a field, go away.
- 52:33[SPEAKER_00]: You're not worried.
- 52:35[SPEAKER_01]: You're like, I don't know.
- 52:36[SPEAKER_01]: Put the three of them going.
- 52:37[SPEAKER_01]: Going to kick that 40 of field goal.
- 52:41[SPEAKER_01]: Just in cash, what if off your duck has a lovely leg season?
- 52:44[SPEAKER_01]: Bravo.
- 52:48[SPEAKER_01]: Even for a whole bit, who were positive podcasts?
- 52:52[SPEAKER_01]: What was the kiddo's rookie?
- 52:59[SPEAKER_01]: 43 receptions, five hundred and fifteen receiving yards, two touchdowns, twelve yards per quetch.
- 53:07[SPEAKER_00]: So like if you get like nice 400 some of your season out of ask it up like doesn't it be?
- 53:13[SPEAKER_00]: That'd be dope.
- 53:14[SPEAKER_00]: It's all about how it looks, you know what I'm saying?
- 53:16[SPEAKER_00]: I'm more, I'm more, I'm more intrigued by him about what schematically and formationally like we'll be able to do with somebody like him, you know what I'm saying?
- 53:25[SPEAKER_00]: So you get him, edge one, end of a fan, like I just feel like you could do some funky stuff.
- 53:31[SPEAKER_01]: You could, bro.
- 53:32[SPEAKER_01]: I was just looking just because you borrowed up his rookie season 43 receptions 515 yards to touchdowns.
- 53:39[SPEAKER_01]: His sophomore year in the season 88 receptions 1,370.
- 53:42[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I'll stay about.
- 53:45[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, I know he exploded.
- 53:47[SPEAKER_00]: Like, what an overseas exploded, bro.
- 53:49[SPEAKER_01]: Whoop.
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- 53:57[SPEAKER_01]: We're wrapping up any, any other
- 54:01[SPEAKER_01]: I like it's a sneaky kind of like deep-cut one, but like any, you know, things on your radar for what if the the things are good.
- 54:17[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I do Roger said how long until he takes over takes takes over takes to one.
- 54:22[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to say by year, I'm going to say about year two.
- 54:25[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'll say about you too.
- 54:27[SPEAKER_00]: Cause the one with 30, 31, like you want to get up to a burr, you know?
- 54:31[SPEAKER_00]: So, clock ticking right now join is what he is.
- 54:34[SPEAKER_00]: He's a, I was looking at something, some NFL database with stats.
- 54:37[SPEAKER_00]: He was still in there as a wire receiver burr.
- 54:40[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's still, it's still got to be there wire receiver.
- 54:43[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like, whatever, it's just a big wire receiver.
- 54:45[SPEAKER_00]: But it's all he is, you know, but I try to think with another one.
- 54:48[SPEAKER_00]: What if, you know, we talked about this a little bit, but what if,
- 54:55[SPEAKER_00]: Danny Stuttman.
- 54:56[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I guess you can look this in with the second year, please.
- 54:58[SPEAKER_00]: But like, whatever you do, too, bro, like, whatever you use the trash, you know what I'm saying to go along.
- 55:03[SPEAKER_00]: with a kid nervous, you know.
- 55:05[SPEAKER_00]: I'm fascinated to see how he gets on the field with kid nervous, you know, and people are like, I just want to see how they figured it out, you know, because this, I still feel like the deepest, these, some teeth, like, sort of kind of, had a two, something, and you saw it, I was watching, I was rewatching it all, was it the Titans game, or was it the Dolphins game?
- 55:25[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you, man.
- 55:26[SPEAKER_01]: They go to Dolphins game.
- 55:27[SPEAKER_01]: There's a Dolphins game, I know it's like a wig game.
- 55:28[SPEAKER_00]: And he had a tone setting here, like he came in,
- 55:32[SPEAKER_00]: And he came around that corner, he laid that wood and everybody was just like, and the defense was getting like steam room before that plea.
- 55:39[SPEAKER_00]: And then after that plea, it kind of like, you could just tell it just a little fire at a defense and they just started playing like with a different level of energy.
- 55:47[SPEAKER_00]: So I think, I just want to see stuff that's going to feel because he's like the one play on the defense that brings that like just the way you don't bring that.
- 55:54[SPEAKER_00]: No, who like, you know, cool lady, cool lady, cool lady.
- 55:58[SPEAKER_00]: No, hell no, like.
- 56:00[SPEAKER_00]: So I think you just need a play like that, bro.
- 56:02[SPEAKER_00]: Like we had the more like the Mario 30, 30, 30, 30 years old trying to bring that energy, bro.
- 56:07[SPEAKER_00]: Like we need to be some guys out there, bro.
- 56:11[SPEAKER_00]: We do.
- 56:13[SPEAKER_01]: I'll just remember, I'll just go back to what our girl Jordan Reree said after seeing the Saints, I think they promised the chargers, yeah, it was the chargers before the chargers preceding game and her ring great rose and thall were out there.
- 56:27[SPEAKER_01]: She said like she said that the Saints got one in Danny's thoughts man.
- 56:31[SPEAKER_01]: Like, and there's one person's football opinion I'm going to trust is going to be Jordan Reree's.
- 56:37[SPEAKER_01]: And so it's just my thing I go to is like,
- 56:43[SPEAKER_01]: get on the field because he primarily like I know he played opposite of the Mario.
- 56:51[SPEAKER_01]: But for all of the purposes like the training camp and everything last year, he was the Mario's backup and he's a natural Mike, right?
- 57:01[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm just fascinated to see and we're not going to know anything from OTAs, but just even that first offensive line, like that, the first offensive alignment over who's on the field at linebackers going to be very interesting for me to see because to me,
- 57:22[SPEAKER_00]: I just, I just say this about people and one thing I just started to realize, watching the defense, he's like, I don't know a band like he just, there's something really safe about them and I could just see it's the coaches feeling like man.
- 57:39[SPEAKER_00]: He just always in the right spot.
- 57:41[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you know, he's always in the right spot.
- 57:44[SPEAKER_00]: Don't make no plays, but he's always, he's always right there.
- 57:48[SPEAKER_00]: He's right there, bro.
- 57:49[SPEAKER_00]: You watch him like, he's always, he's always better for yourself.
- 57:52[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks, deep, man.
- 57:53[SPEAKER_00]: Please, please.
- 57:55[SPEAKER_00]: I just seen it for him, bro.
- 57:56[SPEAKER_01]: I've seen it, I've seen it two fucking seasons with like, I just, I know.
- 58:00[SPEAKER_01]: No.
- 58:03[SPEAKER_00]: I just wanted to go just look at it, bro.
- 58:06[SPEAKER_00]: Like they were getting up and he, you know, I trust him.
- 58:08[SPEAKER_00]: I just trust him, I just trust him to beat him.
- 58:12[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be, it's going to be Werner and Elis, OTS, Day 1, stand it out there, bro.
- 58:17[SPEAKER_00]: You are not, bro.
- 58:19[SPEAKER_01]: And if, and if Stuttman's Stuttman does eventually take over, like, it would be like in training camp and then preseason games, where it's to the point where it's like, hey, like we can.
- 58:29[SPEAKER_01]: Just like, you gotta get him on the field.
- 58:31[SPEAKER_01]: Gotta get him on the field.
- 58:32[SPEAKER_01]: My two deep cuts, as we were out this up, that's what I'm going to say.
- 58:37[SPEAKER_01]: We, we bang hard on verding bragging.
- 58:41[SPEAKER_01]: Bang hard.
- 58:43[SPEAKER_01]: He's a third.
- 58:44[SPEAKER_01]: He was a third round pick last year.
- 58:47[SPEAKER_00]: We got whole inside jokes about him on a disco with tons.
- 58:52[SPEAKER_01]: What if he comes back and you're too any?
- 58:57[SPEAKER_01]: He starts being the, I don't say it dominant, but a impactful force in the middle of the defense.
- 59:03[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
- 59:04[SPEAKER_01]: What if him, he, and Kristen Miller, form this nice interior duo, and I, you know, Brian B.C.
- 59:13[SPEAKER_01]: too, like he just, we put him on pass and doubts, what if,
- 59:18[SPEAKER_01]: that elevates the run defense that June we know the team's definitely been trying to improve the run defense all off season.
- 59:23[SPEAKER_01]: What if Vernon brought Rodden takes a step forward?
- 59:27[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to piggyback off my own point and say even though it's very unlikely this is a hope podcast.
- 59:35[SPEAKER_01]: What if the Saints revives Tyre Wilson's career like they did chase shells?
- 59:41[SPEAKER_00]: Man, do you imagine that?
- 59:43[SPEAKER_00]: Can you
- 59:47[SPEAKER_00]: What if Terry Wilson looking like the guy who some thought he'd look to be when he had your outfit?
- 59:54[SPEAKER_00]: Like what if he's, what if they turned him in?
- 59:56[SPEAKER_00]: Like what if they able to get, not even not crazy, but like eight sex.
- 1:00:02[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, awesome.
- 1:00:02[SPEAKER_00]: That's awesome.
- 1:00:04[SPEAKER_00]: I was, you know, seven, let's say seven, seven, sex and like some consistent pressure and run defense and disruptions from Terry Wilson.
- 1:00:16[SPEAKER_01]: They're different because this player went much later in the draft much later in the draft and they're not even the same draft class But if you think about to a player who I was not a fan of coming out of the prospect is KB on chase on Alicia
- 1:00:30[SPEAKER_01]: can stand him at the prospect.
- 1:00:31[SPEAKER_01]: I just think he was going to go first round.
- 1:00:34[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, where?
- 1:00:35[SPEAKER_01]: And then the Jags drafting him at the end of round one, his career in Jacksonville, started off.
- 1:00:40[SPEAKER_01]: Shaky didn't look like a good player.
- 1:00:42[SPEAKER_01]: He got bounced around the league for a while.
- 1:00:44[SPEAKER_01]: And now he's solidified himself as being like a good starting defensive end who can pressure the quarterback and make some plays.
- 1:00:53[SPEAKER_01]: So it's not impossible.
- 1:00:56[SPEAKER_00]: No, isn't it?
- 1:00:59[SPEAKER_00]: It's not possible at all, man, we see it over and over again, sometimes it just takes time with these guys and sometimes they just get overdrafted, they just get overdrafted and obviously the drafting team wants to move off from that we've done it ourselves, you know what I'm saying, but if he could just be a guy that.
- 1:01:17[SPEAKER_00]: You know, just provides a little spark, man, like that'd be amazing, you know, that'd be amazing.
- 1:01:22[SPEAKER_00]: I can imagine in the season and you're thinking about, well, how are we going to bring back to every Wilson?
- 1:01:26[SPEAKER_00]: Like, that would be crazy, you know, because even lumens is looking at this, like, it's just a one-year rental, and we'll see what happened.
- 1:01:34[SPEAKER_00]: But if you mess around and he shows something, then it's like, man, we got to figure out a way to get him all the rest.
- 1:01:40[SPEAKER_01]: If they, if, if, if Brad has said he does something with Tyre Wilson's career, like, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can
- 1:02:05[SPEAKER_00]: that is possible, bro.
- 1:02:07[SPEAKER_00]: It's possible, but I don't look back.
- 1:02:08[SPEAKER_00]: Like, still has to tell you the charges are so weird though.
- 1:02:12[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
- 1:02:13[SPEAKER_00]: It was so weird.
- 1:02:15[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know, I don't know.
- 1:02:16[SPEAKER_00]: But like, people, some people do like, like a lot of people do like, yeah, like, like just respect them from like, or just a coaching standpoint.
- 1:02:24[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't know.
- 1:02:26[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe we, I think we'll be safe to have and for like, at least three seasons.
- 1:02:31[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I mean, if he just keeps cooking at some point, a team won't come calling against, you know what I'm saying?
- 1:02:36[SPEAKER_00]: You just keep going cooking, they like, hell shit.
- 1:02:39[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I mean, didn't say I was going to suck a chance.
- 1:02:41[SPEAKER_00]: Like, we know why he got to suck a chance, but even he got to suck a chance.
- 1:02:45[SPEAKER_00]: I'm believable, do this out of it, bro, could you write a D.A.
- 1:02:49[SPEAKER_00]: guess a third chance in a Libra?
- 1:02:51[SPEAKER_00]: Bro, then I need answers, then I need answers.
- 1:02:56[SPEAKER_00]: This is not about football, didn't it, boy?
- 1:03:00[SPEAKER_00]: That's something going on.
- 1:03:01[SPEAKER_00]: Epstein, Pile, something.
- 1:03:06[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, that roller that small any you have any any other what if things go right for the same That's what we as we close this out one look at work small.
- 1:03:16[SPEAKER_00]: We ain't even got a dick dick dick It's horrible.
- 1:03:19[SPEAKER_00]: What if the schedule like yeah, it looks all scary now.
- 1:03:22[SPEAKER_00]: You know Detroit lions week one ravers week two.
- 1:03:25[SPEAKER_00]: What if it ain't bad, we're like what if you know You know, Detroit starts off a little bumpy
- 1:03:32[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the more it's greasy is, you know, like you can have, it's kind of up and down.
- 1:03:36[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, whatever they did, whatever they did bad, what up the schedule is just not that scary.
- 1:03:41[SPEAKER_00]: And the Saints thought of four, five ways of something like that.
- 1:03:45[SPEAKER_00]: Just cooking.
- 1:03:47[SPEAKER_00]: What am I?
- 1:03:50[SPEAKER_01]: One, they have the, I remember if I remember correctly, they have the second easiest schedule, same to schedule on the lead, right?
- 1:03:56[SPEAKER_00]: Which I just don't buy, but okay, I don't either.
- 1:04:00[SPEAKER_01]: But as day went for an, or five and up, with beating the lions in the Ravens Week 2.
- 1:04:11[SPEAKER_00]: we won't know what to do with ourselves and you beat the felgains and then in that big game and you beat the the fight against it in the beat-up game man You'll imagine this shit pass out We will be talking super bober we will be talking super bober just like Saints friends like we did after week two
- 1:04:33[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was on NFL Daily, looking foolish as hell, bruh, I was all about, man, if Kendrick stays healthy, we got a chance.
- 1:04:41[SPEAKER_01]: I thought, thank you, what is wrong with me, go and go and back to begin the black guys, talk about how pandemic disease, bruh.
- 1:04:50[SPEAKER_00]: If Kendrick stays healthy, unfollowed, unfollowed myself, bruh.
- 1:04:57[SPEAKER_01]: One last thing I wanted to ask you, we didn't talk about this when we did the AK part
- 1:05:03[SPEAKER_01]: Well, everything that came out like the Shadow Country Club and the celebrity golf tournament, I know with the first time we talked about this was an April in regards to AKB and on the scene we both said that we felt that he would be on the team.
- 1:05:17[SPEAKER_01]: Were you, or are you with that now?
- 1:05:19[SPEAKER_01]: After what you heard last week, what's that last Monday, last Tuesday, whenever it was?
- 1:05:26[SPEAKER_00]: Cause I, I don't know, I don't know.
- 1:05:30[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
- 1:05:32[SPEAKER_00]: Man, it's probably the lowest I've been, I'm probably like 40.
- 1:05:36[SPEAKER_00]: I was about 40.
- 1:05:36[SPEAKER_01]: I was about 40.
- 1:05:38[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
- 1:05:39[SPEAKER_00]: It's less than 50.
- 1:05:40[SPEAKER_00]: It's less than 50, whatever it is.
- 1:05:43[SPEAKER_00]: For example, I was like, 50, 50, then I was like, oh, 60, 40, he got me back.
- 1:05:47[SPEAKER_00]: Now I'm like, I don't know, bro.
- 1:05:51[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
- 1:05:53[SPEAKER_00]: It might be a fault.
- 1:05:54[SPEAKER_01]: It's just one thing I will say is that if they're waiting for June 1st, I just feel like that's so weird because they could announce it and just process it in the first piece of no, I don't know.
- 1:06:07[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, I just wanted to ask you that.
- 1:06:08[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't ask you that when we did the AK podcast last week.
- 1:06:12[SPEAKER_01]: Our dude Tony said there's always one team that just scared and hires a safe retread and that's where staley would go yes, because he hadn't got his second retread coaching job.
- 1:06:25[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like Dennis Allen has, but you know, who don't really get retreads press coaches black coaches don't like you not will get the job, the derod Mayo retread this.
- 1:06:41[SPEAKER_00]: Now, like, uh, what's his name, tie bulls, he's a retraite.
- 1:06:44[SPEAKER_00]: He did.
- 1:06:45[SPEAKER_00]: He was, he, he jacked, you got to say a job, but sometimes they're, they just, you know, they're like, oh, you, he was with the chest, we keep, we let you slide there.
- 1:06:55[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he went like nine games with the chest and some like they all were, he did play all's with, yes, like, like, just, but that right now, like,
- 1:07:06[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, Angie, what's up, you ever, what's your Todd Bull, what's your question?
- 1:07:10[SPEAKER_01]: Anyhow, Justin Cashett, what if Chase Young has 16 sexist season?
- 1:07:14[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, I mean, that's another good, what if, is that what if what we saw from Chase Young last season, shout out to Justin, bring this up, is just like a taste of things to come.
- 1:07:27[SPEAKER_00]: Go with it.
- 1:07:27[SPEAKER_00]: What if they had to begin in this time of the year?
- 1:07:29[SPEAKER_01]: Because he played like a top 10 defensive end.
- 1:07:36[SPEAKER_01]: the second like once he got up and running, he played like a top 10 to fit some in.
- 1:07:39[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he was drafted second overall.
- 1:07:42[SPEAKER_01]: So it's not impossible to say like what if he has like even another level.
- 1:07:47[SPEAKER_01]: He could that he could go.
- 1:07:49[SPEAKER_00]: He was like pretty much average in like a second game.
- 1:07:52[SPEAKER_00]: So it ended as like a second game in a whole season.
- 1:07:56[SPEAKER_01]: And like the thing that I don't like the thing I don't want to get.
- 1:07:59[SPEAKER_01]: I don't like getting caught up in sacks, but like the ways he worked like at points in some games, he was just dominating them.
- 1:08:07[SPEAKER_00]: Burr.
- 1:08:07[SPEAKER_00]: I was listening to Ali Alikani on a Rosenthal podcast, and he dropped a status
- 1:08:21[SPEAKER_00]: ended the opposing drives offense.
- 1:08:24[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, they ended the drives.
- 1:08:26[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, he was in the drives.
- 1:08:27[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody was there.
- 1:08:28[SPEAKER_00]: He was coming through clutch like in like, it puts such a waste of the dirt, dirt, dirt, dirt, dirt, dirt on the hand foot down like, ending drives, bro.
- 1:08:36[SPEAKER_00]: And he's like, set the five percent of the times that family was just like by four to both in the league.
- 1:08:40[SPEAKER_00]: So, woo!
- 1:08:41[SPEAKER_00]: He brought some different, bro.
- 1:08:42[SPEAKER_00]: He brought something different to the table.
- 1:08:45[SPEAKER_00]: that in the expectable chase, I ain't gonna lie, I didn't expect, I won't give you this analogy.
- 1:08:52[SPEAKER_01]: The way he played last season was very similar to the Saints taking a chance and signing Nick Furley back in the day.
- 1:09:01[SPEAKER_01]: Damn, that's a good one, bro.
- 1:09:03[SPEAKER_01]: And he, Nick Furlin, his heart in the whole jagged ass thing, just, it's just, it's just because like, it was just one of those like, what if,
- 1:09:14[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think we had ever seen a presence like, at least me, as me as a Saintsman, as long as I've been a Saintsman.
- 1:09:20[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I can't remember that season he had, Nick further like, he was just dominant in the middle of the offense or the defensive one, just dominant.
- 1:09:29[SPEAKER_01]: And very similar to Chetationung, Hydra Hydra Pick, he spent time in the Lions, it didn't work out, the Saint-Sandum, and the season he had was just so impressive and then he had the heart issue and then he had to retire.
- 1:09:43[SPEAKER_01]: That's what the, that's how Chase Young's second season with the team really felt like it was in just he he might have another level he can go to which would be scary face offensive, but like as fans that would be amazing because they needed her they need pass for his family.
- 1:10:03[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, like he's going to need the special like we don't know what's going to happen with cam Jordan.
- 1:10:07[SPEAKER_01]: We know what happens with Carl Grannison and big creep.
- 1:10:10[SPEAKER_01]: He who I know I know those for I know those three first four games of season big creep going to be on one.
- 1:10:16[SPEAKER_01]: I know he is I know he is I know he is like, okay, I can't agree and then after that.
- 1:10:24[SPEAKER_01]: Anyhow, we're definitely done now, but we appreciate y'all for tuning in on our 13 on a more a day.
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