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- 1:35Speaker 7: Welcome back to another episode of pc W podcast Championship Wrestling.
- 1:40Speaker 7: I am your host, Wayne also known as Semi Dry Chicken,
- 1:43Speaker 7: and ooh, we got a great episode for you. It
- 1:46Speaker 7: is going to be about oh that's right, war games.
- 1:52Speaker 7: But I am not alone. Let me bring out my
- 1:53Speaker 7: co host.
- 2:26Speaker 1: Welcome back to Yo, Yo, what to do? Pc W crew?
- 2:32Speaker 7: All right, and we are not just a two man crew.
- 2:36Speaker 7: We are a three man crew.
- 2:53Speaker 8: Mm hmmm mm hmmm mm hmmmmmmm.
- 3:13Speaker 9: Doyle, Oh it's me. It's me.
- 3:16Speaker 10: It's a Doiley, just getting ready to stuff my face tomorrow.
- 3:22Speaker 7: Yeah, it's Thanksgiving evening here on the show. And uh,
- 3:29Speaker 7: did you guys remember you gotta leave out a slice
- 3:33Speaker 7: of pumpkin pie and cranberry sauce for the gobbledy cooker.
- 3:40Speaker 7: I don't know is that how that works? Is that
- 3:41Speaker 7: that works for US wrestling guys, for US wrestling fans
- 3:45Speaker 7: on Thanksgiving? There's terrible memories of the gobbledy Cooker. If
- 3:50Speaker 7: if nobody remembers, I forget what year that was. Was
- 3:54Speaker 7: that ninety seven?
- 3:56Speaker 9: Oh way before that?
- 3:57Speaker 7: Why am I say ninety seven?
- 4:00Speaker 3: Uh?
- 4:00Speaker 7: Yeah, like debut, yeah, a long long time ago? Yeah,
- 4:08Speaker 7: uh this this was Vince's idea, I believe right like this, Yeah,
- 4:14Speaker 7: another terrible fucking idea like this. People are building up
- 4:18Speaker 7: to what could be in the egg, what could be
- 4:20Speaker 7: in the egg, And even we we had all these
- 4:23Speaker 7: ideas it could be different of a wrestler, debut, of
- 4:25Speaker 7: a wrestler, a hot playboy model even, but not not that,
- 4:31Speaker 7: but I do have I was watching it earlier today
- 4:35Speaker 7: and just the the sound of the crowd, how excited
- 4:39Speaker 7: they were when they got the gobbledy googer breaking out
- 4:41Speaker 7: of that egg at Survivor series. And I'm going to
- 4:43Speaker 7: play that audio clip and I want you to hear
- 4:46Speaker 7: how excited they were.
- 4:49Speaker 11: But I think that egg is ready to blow?
- 4:56Speaker 6: What what.
- 4:59Speaker 1: In a world?
- 5:00Speaker 3: Oh my god, what what in.
- 5:08Speaker 11: The world is this?
- 5:11Speaker 7: The crowd just was not having it was like dead
- 5:14Speaker 7: just boom.
- 5:16Speaker 9: Well, I mean it was.
- 5:17Speaker 10: It was supposed to be a debut and wrestler. Part
- 5:21Speaker 10: of the reason that never went forward because of that reaction.
- 5:24Speaker 9: You know who was in that costume? Who? Yeah, of
- 5:30Speaker 9: the famous scuerreros. Now, yeah, the idea was that he
- 5:35Speaker 9: was going to come in and be a wrestler in
- 5:37Speaker 9: that stupid I don't know how because he does get
- 5:41Speaker 9: in the ring.
- 5:41Speaker 10: And does a backflip and like, uh, but the crowd
- 5:45Speaker 10: just ship all over, as they well should have.
- 5:47Speaker 1: That was fucking terrible idea.
- 5:50Speaker 7: Yeah, and you know, like some ideas like that that
- 5:52Speaker 7: are just awful to just stay dead right in the past.
- 5:55Speaker 1: But no, uh.
- 5:57Speaker 7: They brought it back at one point a couple of times. Yeah,
- 6:01Speaker 7: the most recently was to win the twenty four to
- 6:03Speaker 7: seven title It's Our Truth. Oh god, that was a
- 6:08Speaker 7: roll up by Our Truth.
- 6:10Speaker 10: I think the gobbled Booker was in the Gimmick Battle Royal,
- 6:13Speaker 10: wasn't it. Possibly most likely eighteen I think yeah, yeah,
- 6:23Speaker 10: the gobbledy Cookers popped up a couple of times. I
- 6:25Speaker 10: think Maurice dressed up as a gobbledygooker for some reason.
- 6:28Speaker 9: I can't quite remember what the reason was. Yeah, the
- 6:35Speaker 9: gobbledy Guger's popped up a couple of.
- 6:37Speaker 7: Times, more times than it should have, comic relief.
- 6:41Speaker 1: More times than it rightfully should have.
- 6:43Speaker 7: Yeah, it should have been dead and gone and buried.
- 6:45Speaker 7: And there's many things that are I like that.
- 6:50Speaker 10: Well, Unfortunately, one of the things that's been dead and buried,
- 6:53Speaker 10: especially at Survivor Series, is Survivor series matches.
- 6:57Speaker 9: We don't seem to do that anymore now, we don't.
- 7:02Speaker 10: This is now the third time we've done war games,
- 7:04Speaker 10: so we haven't had Survivor Series matches in either of
- 7:07Speaker 10: those two. But in ninety eight they didn't have any either,
- 7:11Speaker 10: but that year they had the Deadly Games Tournament for
- 7:14Speaker 10: the vacant WWF title. So like survival, I guess, is
- 7:18Speaker 10: still kind of a theme there. And then and then
- 7:21Speaker 10: twenty two thousand and two was the introduction of the
- 7:26Speaker 10: Elimination Chamber.
- 7:27Speaker 9: They also didn't have.
- 7:30Speaker 10: Survivor Series match on that card, but again Elimination Chamber.
- 7:35Speaker 10: Survival was still kind of a theme. But now we've
- 7:37Speaker 10: just like, we've just thrown that out to fucking winter.
- 7:41Speaker 1: You could say you survived the Wargames match to some extent,
- 7:46Speaker 1: even though you could argue that these matches don't have
- 7:49Speaker 1: the same level of brutality that some classic role games
- 7:52Speaker 1: matches have. Head like, I had hoped.
- 7:55Speaker 10: That maybe we would get you know, the Wyatts and
- 7:59Speaker 10: whatever caring process stupid g Yeah, I thought that's.
- 8:02Speaker 9: Not that I want, not that I would want to see.
- 8:04Speaker 7: That, Matt, right, but it definitely seemed like that's what
- 8:07Speaker 7: they were building towards.
- 8:09Speaker 10: Yeah, it seemed like a great opportunity to do with
- 8:11Speaker 10: Survivor series elimination style match.
- 8:14Speaker 7: On Saturday SmackDown or Friday SmackDown. Yeah. Uh yeah, So
- 8:20Speaker 7: we got Survivor Series war games, sorryty, Survivor Series games
- 8:27Speaker 7: at six pm on Saturday.
- 8:32Speaker 10: So it's it's a thirty eighth Survivor series. Wow, first
- 8:37Speaker 10: pay per view in Canada since ninety eight.
- 8:39Speaker 9: Rock Bottom in your House?
- 8:41Speaker 10: Oh wow, it's a third Survivor series in Canada in
- 8:45Speaker 10: ninety seven, you remember that one, I think probably in Morreal.
- 8:50Speaker 9: And then twenty sixteen they were in Toronto now Vancouba.
- 8:55Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I mean, it's definitely the time's a little different,
- 9:00Speaker 7: definitely better than the Saudi hours. Yeah. Six, I'm good
- 9:03Speaker 7: with that. Get done nice and early. Hell, I mean,
- 9:07Speaker 7: if we really wanted to, we could, but we won't.
- 9:10Speaker 7: We could totally do a posterview like right afterwards, but
- 9:13Speaker 7: it's like we won't.
- 9:18Speaker 1: Really incredible would have to happen to like warrant that
- 9:22Speaker 1: type of response, something like a like a CM punk
- 9:26Speaker 1: returning last year.
- 9:30Speaker 7: Yeah, that is true. Last year. I mean, I'm gonna
- 9:33Speaker 7: I'm gonna read off the card real quick from last year.
- 9:36Speaker 7: We had the women's War Games match that was Bionce
- 9:39Speaker 7: bell Air, Charlotte Shatzi, Becky Lynch and they defeated Damage
- 9:45Speaker 7: Control that was Bailey Oscar Eo, Kyrie Singe and Dakota
- 9:49Speaker 7: Kai with him. Uh Gut was the Intercom champion at
- 9:54Speaker 7: the time, defeated the Miss by submission, Santos Escobar, defeated
- 9:59Speaker 7: Dragon ly Rhea defeated Zoe Stark, she was champion at
- 10:05Speaker 7: the time Women's champion, And then we also had the
- 10:08Speaker 7: men's War Games match which was Cody Rhoades, Seth Freaking
- 10:11Speaker 7: Rollins who also teamed with Jay Usso and Sammy Usso
- 10:16Speaker 7: and Randy Orton. They defeated the judgment day back when
- 10:20Speaker 7: it was Damian Priest, Finn Baller, Dirty Dom and JD
- 10:24Speaker 7: McDonough with Drew McIntyre. It's before we had Carlito, remember that.
- 10:32Speaker 7: So and then that's when we got you know, he
- 10:34Speaker 7: had the huge return of Randy Orton, Big Pop and
- 10:38Speaker 7: then the wonderful return of Sampunk and that was an
- 10:44Speaker 7: episode that we covered. So, I mean, if you want
- 10:47Speaker 7: to hear our opinion on that one, go back and
- 10:49Speaker 7: our go back on the records. Dig it up. It's
- 10:52Speaker 7: in there. I don't know what episode. I don't even
- 10:54Speaker 7: know what episode around now sixty eight.
- 10:56Speaker 1: Let us not forget that they did pump pick the
- 10:58Speaker 1: hell out of everybody on that show as well, because
- 11:02Speaker 1: we all played it like they were going off the air.
- 11:04Speaker 1: We thought like, okay, that was a good show, Randy
- 11:06Speaker 1: Orton return, No see bunk, all right?
- 11:08Speaker 7: And then boom da, god damn, I I marked out
- 11:13Speaker 7: so fucking I was just like fucking yep, I fucking
- 11:18Speaker 7: marked out. And I was like the last time I
- 11:21Speaker 7: think I popped that hard for a return was probably
- 11:23Speaker 7: like when Edge came back at the rumble. So yeah,
- 11:29Speaker 7: that was a nice one.
- 11:30Speaker 9: I don't know.
- 11:33Speaker 7: How they're gonna how are they gonna follow with this year? Right?
- 11:37Speaker 7: How are we gonna get a big return? Are we
- 11:40Speaker 7: getting a big title change? Are we getting something big
- 11:44Speaker 7: this year that when those credits roll, that ww logo
- 11:50Speaker 7: goes up, we're satisfied just as good as we were
- 11:54Speaker 7: last year. Well, some of us.
- 11:58Speaker 1: Hard to say, you know, on the card. Well, one,
- 12:03Speaker 1: I don't think they need to try to match something
- 12:05Speaker 1: like that every every year, because you obviously a thing
- 12:09Speaker 1: like Seeing or like the return of Seeing Punk that's
- 12:11Speaker 1: a you know, once in a blue moon type of right,
- 12:17Speaker 1: that you could do something like that. So I mean
- 12:20Speaker 1: there's a little opportunity. I wouldn't expect anything of that magnitude. Also,
- 12:24Speaker 1: this year, we've got, you know, even though this is
- 12:27Speaker 1: technically the last p l E of the year, we
- 12:30Speaker 1: still have another big WWE event coming in Saturday Nights
- 12:35Speaker 1: Made event, which they are treating as a pl caliber
- 12:39Speaker 1: type event.
- 12:40Speaker 10: So yeah, and then the first Raw on Netflix it's
- 12:42Speaker 10: like two weeks after.
- 12:43Speaker 1: That, right, is a huge deal exactly. So yeah, we
- 12:49Speaker 1: still have a lot of big things still to come,
- 12:52Speaker 1: you know. So this may be just a typical run
- 12:56Speaker 1: of the mill type of show.
- 13:00Speaker 7: Right, I mean this is Survivors for those who don't know.
- 13:03Speaker 7: Survivors Series is one of the Big Four. Actually it
- 13:07Speaker 7: might be Big Five now that we have you know,
- 13:10Speaker 7: Saorry shows.
- 13:11Speaker 1: But in yeah, you were right the first time. Big four.
- 13:14Speaker 7: Yeah, big four. What's canon? Yeah, the Big Four, it's
- 13:20Speaker 7: what's canon.
- 13:21Speaker 9: You know.
- 13:21Speaker 7: We have the Roy Rumble, we have uh Russell Mania,
- 13:26Speaker 7: of course, we have Summer Slam, and we have Survivors Series,
- 13:31Speaker 7: and then kind of goes back around for us and yeah,
- 13:36Speaker 7: like Doyle said, it was always based off of big
- 13:38Speaker 7: team elimination matches. I even had somebody at work today
- 13:42Speaker 7: bring it up when we were looking at the car
- 13:44Speaker 7: and they were like, you know where the big you know,
- 13:47Speaker 7: didn't you guys used to have like Team Rall versus
- 13:49Speaker 7: Team SmackDown. I'm like, yeah, we used to. We used
- 13:52Speaker 7: that used to be a big thing. They used to
- 13:54Speaker 7: do it for bragging rights.
- 13:56Speaker 9: Uh you know, it would be.
- 13:58Speaker 7: The colored the red Shirts versus the Blue Shirts. And
- 14:02Speaker 7: they would have even like there was a couple of
- 14:06Speaker 7: shows that they've done where they had like an invasion
- 14:08Speaker 7: of another show like Raw would come up and beat
- 14:10Speaker 7: up SmackDown stars and vice versa. And then I think
- 14:14Speaker 7: one of my most recent ones, it was probably my favorite.
- 14:18Speaker 7: It was when NXT was involved and Triple H was
- 14:22Speaker 7: running NXT and they had NXT Invade. Was it raw
- 14:27Speaker 7: and SmackDown on the d X the old DX jeep
- 14:32Speaker 7: that they used. I thought that was cool. It made
- 14:35Speaker 7: it for me at that That was probably when NXT
- 14:38Speaker 7: was probably peak, when XT was almost on par with
- 14:42Speaker 7: the main roster, or at least it felt like it
- 14:44Speaker 7: was getting there and it held they they they they
- 14:48Speaker 7: won that year too, NXC won that year. But we
- 14:51Speaker 7: don't have anything like that this year. We don't have
- 14:54Speaker 7: Team Roll versus Team SmackDown.
- 14:56Speaker 3: We have.
- 14:58Speaker 7: We have the Bloodline and we were kind of, I mean, geez,
- 15:02Speaker 7: go back like two years or so or whenever, you know,
- 15:07Speaker 7: we saw Solo come in and and the bloodline basically
- 15:11Speaker 7: start to fall apart. We kind of called this like
- 15:15Speaker 7: we called this a long time ago, right, guys, I mean,
- 15:18Speaker 7: like we knew this was I think, yeah, I mean
- 15:22Speaker 7: even before that, we were kind of like, this is
- 15:24Speaker 7: what we would love to see, and we're here and
- 15:28Speaker 7: we have a little extra meat on the Bone extra
- 15:30Speaker 7: meets in. We got Bronson Reed, we got the fifth
- 15:34Speaker 7: man on the other team, and and and for those
- 15:37Speaker 7: who don't know who the fifth man is, we'll get
- 15:41Speaker 7: to that. But you know what, let's let's get into this.
- 15:44Speaker 7: Let's get into the other matches. Uh, and then we'll
- 15:47Speaker 7: get to the meat of it. First one we're gonna
- 15:50Speaker 7: have here is l a Night as the United States
- 15:54Speaker 7: Champion versus a returning shin Skate Nakamora. Now Ellie Knights
- 16:03Speaker 7: has has had the United States title for quite some
- 16:06Speaker 7: time now. He's definitely defended it more than our last
- 16:10Speaker 7: United States Champion, Logan Paul.
- 16:12Speaker 3: Uh.
- 16:12Speaker 7: He was able to escape the last pay per view.
- 16:15Speaker 7: I say escape because I thought it might have been
- 16:18Speaker 7: where he could have lost it. But it seems like
- 16:22Speaker 7: now we have returning heel shinske after the title nipping
- 16:27Speaker 7: at his heels.
- 16:28Speaker 3: Uh.
- 16:29Speaker 7: To be honest, the last time I recalled Shinsky with
- 16:32Speaker 7: the title in United States title, he didn't really do
- 16:36Speaker 7: much for the title and it didn't do much for him.
- 16:40Speaker 9: Uh.
- 16:41Speaker 7: Still a heel hit. His His promos at least now
- 16:46Speaker 7: have subtitles when he does his promos backstage. I feel
- 16:50Speaker 7: like that was always his weakness was his promos. Maybe,
- 16:56Speaker 7: but I just you know, right now, in this set time,
- 17:00Speaker 7: I just don't see s K walking out that title.
- 17:03Speaker 7: I think Elle Knights is gonna add another notch to
- 17:07Speaker 7: his belt. Yeah, Dre talk to me.
- 17:15Speaker 1: I think the only question about this match really is
- 17:18Speaker 1: is this a one and done thing with their feud.
- 17:22Speaker 1: It would seem rather pointless to have brought Shinsky knocking
- 17:28Speaker 1: world back and made it seem like it's supposed to
- 17:32Speaker 1: be a big deal or something that we should care about.
- 17:36Speaker 1: Just for him to stalk l A. Knight for two
- 17:39Speaker 1: weeks and then lose a title match and then what
- 17:41Speaker 1: disappear again, That would seem rather pointless and would seem
- 17:44Speaker 1: like a bit of a waste. So I'm sure l A.
- 17:49Speaker 1: Knight is going to retain the title, but I don't
- 17:52Speaker 1: know if he's going to win the match. My hope
- 17:57Speaker 1: is that this match engines some sort of you know,
- 18:01Speaker 1: d Q or something, or some something happens that warrants
- 18:07Speaker 1: this match continuing beyond the show, beyond this pl e.
- 18:13Speaker 7: I just don't feel like we've had enough time to
- 18:16Speaker 7: build the feud properly. No right, right, and since it.
- 18:23Speaker 1: Has just yeah, popped up clock La Knight a few times,
- 18:29Speaker 1: and that's really it. It seems like it one. It's
- 18:32Speaker 1: a pretty I'm surprised they're even doing the match on
- 18:35Speaker 1: this pl so, you know, quickly after having just brought
- 18:38Speaker 1: him back. I would have thought that this was something
- 18:41Speaker 1: that they were going to drag on and push out
- 18:44Speaker 1: to Saturday Night's main event. But I guess they need
- 18:47Speaker 1: to fill out the card with something, so they're throwing
- 18:51Speaker 1: this in even though it feels rather Russian, has very
- 18:54Speaker 1: little build up, so that makes that's kind of what
- 18:57Speaker 1: also makes me think that this is going to extend
- 19:00Speaker 1: beyond this show, right, So, like, and if Elia Knight
- 19:05Speaker 1: just wins clean, then there's really not much justification or
- 19:09Speaker 1: reason to pursue it further. But he wins clean and
- 19:12Speaker 1: then next backdown Shinske shows up and attacks him again. Well, fine,
- 19:16Speaker 1: do it again. Like it's kind of a doesn't make
- 19:19Speaker 1: much sense to it. So I guess my money is
- 19:22Speaker 1: that La Knight retains, but he doesn't necessarily pin Shinsky Knockamore.
- 19:27Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, I mean, like you're I think you're spot
- 19:31Speaker 7: on because Heal Knockimore is notorious for d hues.
- 19:36Speaker 9: I mean there.
- 19:37Speaker 7: There was a time when I was very excited for
- 19:40Speaker 7: the aj Styles shins Key Knockamore feud, very excited, and
- 19:44Speaker 7: if anybody remembers that feud, it was just nutshot after
- 19:48Speaker 7: a nutshot after a nutshot. We literally had like five
- 19:52Speaker 7: pay per views in a row where these guys just
- 19:55Speaker 7: nut shot at each other and it was the most
- 19:59Speaker 7: frustrating feud I've ever fucking watched. So with shins K,
- 20:02Speaker 7: it's very possible. Doyle, what are your what's your opinion?
- 20:07Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean that's pretty much echo what Dre said
- 20:10Speaker 9: I had written down.
- 20:11Speaker 10: This feels very thrown together, like they, oh, ship, we
- 20:13Speaker 10: need a fifth match, excuse me?
- 20:16Speaker 9: And we don't want to take anything away from Saturday
- 20:18Speaker 9: Night's made event.
- 20:19Speaker 10: What can we throw together? You know, like shs K
- 20:22Speaker 10: just got back. It feels too soon for this match
- 20:24Speaker 10: to be even happening. Uh, you know, there was essentially
- 20:28Speaker 10: no build, like I said.
- 20:30Speaker 9: But here we are.
- 20:32Speaker 10: Yeah, it just doesn't make a lot of sense for
- 20:34Speaker 10: Ellie Knight to drop the title here, and I don't
- 20:36Speaker 10: think it makes a lot of sense to put it
- 20:37Speaker 10: on Shinsky Nagamora right now either.
- 20:41Speaker 9: It just the math just doesn't add up. Yeah, I
- 20:45Speaker 9: had L A.
- 20:46Speaker 10: Knight winning, But yeah, I like Drey's idea of a
- 20:49Speaker 10: Schmas or a DQ finish makes probably more sense. But yeah,
- 20:56Speaker 10: I mean I think this is probably the low point
- 20:59Speaker 10: of the card. I'm not expecting too much here, So
- 21:04Speaker 10: if we get anything it's remotely entertaining, I guess I'll
- 21:06Speaker 10: be pretty h pretty impressed, pretty pleasantly surprised.
- 21:12Speaker 9: I love schinz K but L. A. Knight doesn't really
- 21:15Speaker 9: do much for me.
- 21:15Speaker 10: But I don't know, I don't see these guys having
- 21:19Speaker 10: great chemistry with each other.
- 21:21Speaker 9: But I hope I'm wrong.
- 21:23Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 21:23Speaker 9: L A.
- 21:24Speaker 1: Knight is definitely still treading water as US champion. I mean,
- 21:28Speaker 1: he's still obviously popular, still over with the fans. But
- 21:32Speaker 1: you know, I think I said it before in the
- 21:34Speaker 1: previous episode. As much as everybody's dunking on Cody and
- 21:38Speaker 1: his title reign and trying to call his ship lackluster,
- 21:41Speaker 1: his shit is freaking theater compared to what LA Knight's
- 21:45Speaker 1: title run is big.
- 21:50Speaker 7: And you know what else is funny. It's like you
- 21:52Speaker 7: know you're right there, like why is this match even
- 21:55Speaker 7: on the card because we don't have the titles from
- 22:01Speaker 7: either show on this card. That would have been nice,
- 22:05Speaker 7: maybe like a tag team elimination style type match, or
- 22:10Speaker 7: maybe like even like the raw Tag Team Champions versus
- 22:14Speaker 7: the SmackDown, even in just a for no title, just
- 22:19Speaker 7: a type of match. Not even that. We not even
- 22:22Speaker 7: a little bit of a rale versus SmackDown, not even
- 22:25Speaker 7: this weird fucking rumor that I heard last year about Oh,
- 22:29Speaker 7: we're gonna put both general managers and we're gonna put
- 22:32Speaker 7: them in the ring and we're gonna have them fight
- 22:34Speaker 7: each other. Okay, I'm glad we do that. Yeah I
- 22:39Speaker 7: don't I don't need to see that, but yeah, they're
- 22:43Speaker 7: they're probably gonna do that at some point. I mean, hell,
- 22:46Speaker 7: we had Michael Cohen a singlet at one point, you know,
- 22:49Speaker 7: wrestling someday at WrestleMania, so anything's possible. Moving on, we
- 22:57Speaker 7: have the Intercontinental title bron Breaker versus Seamus versus Ludvig Kaiser.
- 23:05Speaker 7: Uh so we have a triple threat. I love triple threats. Right,
- 23:09Speaker 7: this might be a little bit better than the United
- 23:11Speaker 7: States title match, which I think maybe the United States
- 23:14Speaker 7: Mate You've even been better as another triple threat, but
- 23:18Speaker 7: I think we got that last pay per view with him,
- 23:20Speaker 7: so uh, you know, it really sucks because it's another
- 23:28Speaker 7: It seems like Seamus I think since we've done this podcast,
- 23:33Speaker 7: we've you know, he's always come like so close to
- 23:36Speaker 7: the near Continental title, especially since it was around Gouther's waist,
- 23:40Speaker 7: just so close and just fails every fucking time, just
- 23:46Speaker 7: so close to that grand Slam, And like every time,
- 23:50Speaker 7: I'm just like, oh, this is it. They're gotta give
- 23:53Speaker 7: it to him, right, this is it. No, I don't
- 23:57Speaker 7: think they're gonna do it here either. I don't don't
- 24:00Speaker 7: think it would be great, big big, you know, Survivor
- 24:03Speaker 7: series moment.
- 24:06Speaker 1: You're finally off that give Seamus the I see title narcotic, it's.
- 24:12Speaker 7: Like you try, you try, you know.
- 24:15Speaker 10: I I'm I'm I'm behind seven eleven mainline in that ship.
- 24:21Speaker 7: But yeah, I just I just don't see that happening.
- 24:28Speaker 7: And Ludwick Kaiser, I just don't. I And maybe if
- 24:32Speaker 7: Braun was a breaker, was a face, I could see
- 24:35Speaker 7: him stealing it out from under him. But no, I
- 24:39Speaker 7: just see Braun just spearing one of these fuckers, probably Ludwig,
- 24:43Speaker 7: and and that's it, Like Shames is gonna oh so
- 24:48Speaker 7: close yet again, but he got thrown out of the
- 24:50Speaker 7: ring by Ludwig, and Ludwig turned around and he got
- 24:53Speaker 7: speared by Braun and done, just done. I well, I
- 24:58Speaker 7: don't know if it will be any weapons, and I
- 25:01Speaker 7: guess it kind of could, so we could probably see
- 25:03Speaker 7: some kindo sticks. Maybe I don't know, but yeah, Brown
- 25:10Speaker 7: Breaker's run is just not as exciting. And I'll pick
- 25:17Speaker 7: on him too. And you know, I know there's fans
- 25:19Speaker 7: out there bron Breaker, but you know we'll pick on
- 25:21Speaker 7: him anyway.
- 25:22Speaker 1: So come on, don't be grazy.
- 25:25Speaker 7: Oh no, I'm not crazy. Uh you know what, Dre,
- 25:29Speaker 7: I want to hear your.
- 25:30Speaker 1: Opinion were well, in comparison to l A. Knight, the
- 25:34Speaker 1: thing I will give bron Breaker for his icy title
- 25:36Speaker 1: run is at least there's a story there with his
- 25:40Speaker 1: ic run.
- 25:41Speaker 9: Yeah.
- 25:42Speaker 1: L A. Knight's just had matches. Bron at least has
- 25:46Speaker 1: some story. Lized. You know, he had the storyline with
- 25:48Speaker 1: Sammy's am where you know, he was the the you know,
- 25:52Speaker 1: inexperienced guys see facing the veteran, and Sammy was the
- 25:56Speaker 1: veteran using his experience to try to get the upper
- 25:59Speaker 1: hand on Braun. To bron just you know told Sammy's
- 26:03Speaker 1: ain't the levels to this ship and you ain't on mine.
- 26:06Speaker 1: You know, he got overconfident after coming out of that
- 26:10Speaker 1: and then wind up that wound up working against him
- 26:13Speaker 1: with Jay Uso, and Jay was able to defeat him
- 26:17Speaker 1: and become IC Champion. Then they decided, you know, fuck
- 26:20Speaker 1: you Jay and put it back on Braun Well, or
- 26:24Speaker 1: the storyline would be that Broun refocused and got his
- 26:28Speaker 1: title back. So you know, at least bron Breaker has
- 26:31Speaker 1: that going for him as his IC Champion. You know,
- 26:35Speaker 1: he has storyline. There's a thread that you can follow
- 26:38Speaker 1: with this. Now. Where this match falls in line with that,
- 26:42Speaker 1: I don't know. Don't know where it falls in line
- 26:45Speaker 1: in terms of following the thread, but he's probably he's
- 26:50Speaker 1: obviously going to retain. I don't see any reason for
- 26:53Speaker 1: them to take it off of him. He's not a heel,
- 26:56Speaker 1: he's not a face. He's kind of in that tweeter
- 26:59Speaker 1: range right now, where you know, it depends on who
- 27:04Speaker 1: his opponent is. You know, again, somebody like Seamus he
- 27:07Speaker 1: may be seeing is more of a heel. Against Luvid Kaiser,
- 27:10Speaker 1: he's seen it's more of a face. And I think
- 27:13Speaker 1: that that's probably the right where he's gonna be at
- 27:15Speaker 1: for a while until you know, the fans maybe definitively
- 27:20Speaker 1: go one way or the other with him. But yeah,
- 27:24Speaker 1: this this match, it'll pty, It'll be a good match.
- 27:27Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna suck. Obviously. All these guys
- 27:30Speaker 1: can work well in the ring and have respective beef
- 27:35Speaker 1: with each other, like each one hates the other too,
- 27:39Speaker 1: so they there's no reason for like, you know, one
- 27:42Speaker 1: person just be sitting out. Everybody's gonna get their time
- 27:44Speaker 1: to have their one v one and brawling with each other.
- 27:49Speaker 1: And one day Shamus will even though I joked on
- 27:53Speaker 1: a narcotic one day, I'm sure Seamus will finally get
- 27:55Speaker 1: that ic rain so he can have his Grand Slam.
- 27:59Speaker 1: But it ain't gonna beat this time. Ain't gonna beat
- 28:01Speaker 1: this show. Bron Breaker is gonna come out on top.
- 28:05Speaker 1: And whether they cheer him or boo him probably depends
- 28:08Speaker 1: on who he pins.
- 28:12Speaker 7: Yeah that's true, I think take the pin.
- 28:15Speaker 1: Oh yeah, probably. My guess is he pins Luvic Kaiser
- 28:19Speaker 1: and gets a huge pop and they cheer his victory.
- 28:23Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, heat off of you.
- 28:31Speaker 1: Unless they go for some type of other stand against
- 28:33Speaker 1: where they all pin each other.
- 28:38Speaker 7: Mm hmmm, mm hmmm.
- 28:42Speaker 1: I don't think it's happening human situation, Like they all
- 28:47Speaker 1: like some something happens, they all end up knocking each
- 28:49Speaker 1: other round and like Shamus falls on Bron, Bron falls
- 28:52Speaker 1: on Luvic, Luvic falls on Seamous.
- 29:01Speaker 7: It's possible. I'm seeing it now in my head. I'm
- 29:05Speaker 7: just like the chances of that fucking happening and not
- 29:07Speaker 7: stand up, like are you fucking.
- 29:11Speaker 1: I wouldn't here.
- 29:13Speaker 7: First you get them, well, get them all looped up
- 29:16Speaker 7: and baby oil and slipping around, and they just fall
- 29:20Speaker 7: on top of each other. It'll be they're just gonna
- 29:23Speaker 7: lay there for a long time. We're going to a
- 29:25Speaker 7: long count, and then after we're gonna we're gonna lay
- 29:29Speaker 7: there to the very end until everybody leaves the area. Yeah,
- 29:35Speaker 7: that is kind of weird. What could happen. We've seen
- 29:38Speaker 7: it happen. I've always liked, you know, like you always
- 29:44Speaker 7: had that one anchor wrestler on your team who just
- 29:47Speaker 7: basically like stand is basically there to the very end
- 29:50Speaker 7: and ends up eliminating a couple of people who've had
- 29:53Speaker 7: like Shawn Michaels was always like a good anchor. I
- 29:56Speaker 7: always thought in your Survivor serious team, I've I always
- 30:01Speaker 7: liked when he would like give you a sweet chin
- 30:03Speaker 7: music and then kind of like fall on top of
- 30:06Speaker 7: you and pin you, like right after giving it to you.
- 30:08Speaker 7: I always thought that was fucking cool. There's some finishers
- 30:11Speaker 7: that you could do that. You know, you do the
- 30:13Speaker 7: finisher and immediately pin them like exhausted, you know, but
- 30:18Speaker 7: that's that's how good wrestle would sell it. H Doyle,
- 30:26Speaker 7: did I did we get yours on this match?
- 30:29Speaker 6: Yeah?
- 30:29Speaker 7: I want to hear you tear this fucking thing, apartment man,
- 30:31Speaker 7: tell me how your man brown breaker. Go ahead.
- 30:35Speaker 9: I think it's gonna be a lot of fun.
- 30:38Speaker 10: Really kind of shades of WrestleMania thirty nine, the triple
- 30:42Speaker 10: threat between Gunter, Seamus and Drew for this very shame,
- 30:46Speaker 10: I see title.
- 30:47Speaker 9: I love that match.
- 30:49Speaker 10: So I'm hoping something hard and you know, with fifty
- 30:53Speaker 10: seven chops or something like that.
- 30:57Speaker 9: But I think you can make a case for all
- 30:58Speaker 9: three guys winning the match, you know. Uh. Gunter challenged Ludwig.
- 31:05Speaker 9: Ludwig kinds of uh to like, you know, make his
- 31:09Speaker 9: own path or you know, make his own legacy or whatever.
- 31:11Speaker 10: I don't remember what the exact wording was or whatever,
- 31:13Speaker 10: but when in the Icy title would certainly I think
- 31:16Speaker 10: fit the bill of of doing making Gunther happy, you know,
- 31:22Speaker 10: But it does feel too soon for him, I think,
- 31:24Speaker 10: you know, this is his first pay per view appearance
- 31:27Speaker 10: as a single in the company, so I think I
- 31:31Speaker 10: think there's gonna be plenty of opportunities for him in
- 31:33Speaker 10: the future, but this first point ain't gonna be it.
- 31:37Speaker 10: Uh yeah, bron, it seemed to be like destined to
- 31:40Speaker 10: be a future world champion. Everybody says future you know, WrestleMania,
- 31:44Speaker 10: Maine inventor the whole nine.
- 31:46Speaker 1: Uh.
- 31:47Speaker 10: And you know, when he first won the Icy title,
- 31:49Speaker 10: I think a lot of people expected him.
- 31:50Speaker 9: To have a really long, long title reign, but then
- 31:56Speaker 9: he didn't, you know, and then he won it right back.
- 32:01Speaker 10: But that happening again can be ruled out here because
- 32:05Speaker 10: they seemed to be kind of hot shot in the
- 32:07Speaker 10: Icy title around a little bit, which is fine after
- 32:10Speaker 10: gun Thy having it.
- 32:10Speaker 9: For so long. But yeah, I am I am fucking
- 32:15Speaker 9: freebasing uh Shamus. Finally the title here, Uh you know,
- 32:21Speaker 9: he will, like you said it, he will eventually win it.
- 32:25Speaker 10: If not here he will eventually, you know, barring a
- 32:29Speaker 10: career threatening injury or something.
- 32:32Speaker 9: But I just don't.
- 32:33Speaker 10: See a whole lot of other opportunities for something big
- 32:37Speaker 10: to happen on this show outside of the Bloodline match,
- 32:41Speaker 10: and this seems like as good an opportunity as I
- 32:43Speaker 10: needed to make something big happen and maybe try to
- 32:46Speaker 10: make this show memorable outside of whatever ends up happening
- 32:50Speaker 10: with with the Bloodline match, which of course is the
- 32:52Speaker 10: focus of taking and to a degree, it's kind of
- 32:55Speaker 10: taking all the oxygen out of the room on the
- 32:57Speaker 10: rest of the card, you know. So I think they're
- 33:00Speaker 10: maybe trying to create a moment outside of that match
- 33:03Speaker 10: that will be memorable, and I think.
- 33:08Speaker 9: Seam has finally doing it. Uh could be just a ticket, so.
- 33:13Speaker 10: I'll certainly be written for him, you know that, and
- 33:16Speaker 10: deprived of Dublin, will finally get it done.
- 33:22Speaker 1: Yeah, if there there was a spot for a surprise
- 33:26Speaker 1: or a shot, this would definitely be the match probably
- 33:30Speaker 1: for it, right, I never give you that.
- 33:35Speaker 7: Like the IC title since it's been off of Glinter
- 33:39Speaker 7: has been the out of all the titles, the Hot
- 33:43Speaker 7: Potato title mm hmm, And I'm fine with that. I'm
- 33:49Speaker 7: there was enough. There's enough, you know what I mean, Like,
- 33:54Speaker 7: there's enough lineage, linearage.
- 33:56Speaker 1: What's what I'm looking for, lineage.
- 33:57Speaker 7: Lineage lineage built up, especially as of late with what
- 34:02Speaker 7: Gunser did with it. So I'm totally on board with that.
- 34:05Speaker 7: I mean, we already had Jay Usso had an Icy
- 34:07Speaker 7: title run, not long, but he had one.
- 34:13Speaker 10: Braun We've had We've had so little movement with the
- 34:17Speaker 10: World title also, Yeah, and you know, you gotta some
- 34:20Speaker 10: somebody is gonna some title has to move around.
- 34:23Speaker 7: At Yeah, exactly exactly, and like it's like chess almost
- 34:27Speaker 7: you're making the right moves for the right people at
- 34:31Speaker 7: the right time. And you know, comparing Apple's Oranges, well
- 34:35Speaker 7: kind of we're gonna compare the Icy to the United States,
- 34:39Speaker 7: you know, roughly not too far in between that those
- 34:42Speaker 7: titles did switch hands from a long title run. But
- 34:47Speaker 7: look how much has been done with the Icy title
- 34:49Speaker 7: compared to what what L. A. Knight has done by
- 34:54Speaker 7: just holding on to that title. You know, it's been
- 34:57Speaker 7: a little bit more interesting.
- 34:59Speaker 1: On the Icy.
- 35:00Speaker 7: And then I would say the United States title, won't
- 35:06Speaker 7: you guys.
- 35:06Speaker 9: Say, yeah, I think that's pretty Yeah.
- 35:11Speaker 7: Yeah, So I'm I'm I'm totally for the idea. If
- 35:15Speaker 7: if it pops on, if it jumps on Seamus for
- 35:18Speaker 7: a while, he gets that, he finally gets that Grand Slam,
- 35:21Speaker 7: and then I don't know, loses it to Lugley. Maybe
- 35:26Speaker 7: he loses to lug down the road. Either way, I mean,
- 35:31Speaker 7: I'm all for you. You're you're right, Doylely, you go
- 35:34Speaker 7: either way for any of these guys.
- 35:36Speaker 9: But yeah, you can.
- 35:37Speaker 10: You can make a case for I mean, wrong answer
- 35:42Speaker 10: if you want to say that. You know, I think
- 35:44Speaker 10: it's a little too early for Ludvig Kaiser. Although I
- 35:47Speaker 10: don't think. I am a pretty big fan of his,
- 35:49Speaker 10: I have enjoyed his work. I'm I'm kind of interested
- 35:54Speaker 10: to see what happens when he and guns them finally
- 35:58Speaker 10: go their separate ways, or it up, or they might
- 36:02Speaker 10: be they might be forever entangled though, you know, like
- 36:04Speaker 10: some wrestlers seem to be with other ones. I mean,
- 36:08Speaker 10: time will tell him that, But I think as long
- 36:10Speaker 10: as he sticks around the company, I think it will
- 36:14Speaker 10: certainly be an upper mid card slash main event player
- 36:18Speaker 10: for the next couple of years.
- 36:19Speaker 7: EVERY think, yeah, I believe he's dating Tiffany Stratton yep, yeah,
- 36:26Speaker 7: I mean two wrestlers who are on the rise together,
- 36:29Speaker 7: you know, completely separate gimmicks. You never guess that those
- 36:33Speaker 7: two were a couple, but definitely on the rise together.
- 36:38Speaker 7: Both have something promising, an upcoming coming for both their careers.
- 36:42Speaker 7: So I would say, if one what's that?
- 36:49Speaker 10: Yeah, I said, I think Tiffany is a brighter future
- 36:51Speaker 10: than he does.
- 36:52Speaker 7: Oh yeah, for sure. But I could definitely see, like
- 36:55Speaker 7: when she wins the title, maybe he starts winning maybe
- 37:00Speaker 7: an icy title, I don't know. Sometimes they do that
- 37:02Speaker 7: with couples, like you know, the couples are on the
- 37:04Speaker 7: rise together in some way shape for him. They did
- 37:07Speaker 7: it with Seth Rollins and Lynch.
- 37:11Speaker 1: But meanwhile just winning bells left to right in Mantes
- 37:15Speaker 1: for still sitting there.
- 37:18Speaker 7: Not for everybody, not for everybody. Uh all right, well,
- 37:24Speaker 7: speaking of let's let's move on to gunt Our World
- 37:29Speaker 7: tapaweight champion versus uh Damian Priest getting his rematch after rematch?
- 37:36Speaker 7: Did he already have a rematch? I'm not quite sure.
- 37:40Speaker 1: I don't remember.
- 37:42Speaker 7: This is the rematch. It's just been it's just been
- 37:45Speaker 7: pushed this far. I guess because Gunter has had other
- 37:50Speaker 7: that's right, he did. He had the champion versus champion.
- 37:53Speaker 7: He had to deal with that whole few mm hmmm.
- 37:56Speaker 7: So yeah, this kind of was put on the back
- 37:58Speaker 7: burner for a while. And Dave he's gonna try to
- 38:00Speaker 7: get his his belt back, his title. Sorry, uh, you know,
- 38:09Speaker 7: I'm I'm sorry. I'm just I think it's gonna be
- 38:12Speaker 7: a good match. I think it's gonna be just another
- 38:15Speaker 7: two men, men slapping meat, slapping meat, you know, men's
- 38:19Speaker 7: slapping meat.
- 38:19Speaker 9: Whatever.
- 38:21Speaker 7: But I see Gunther walking away and maybe by submission
- 38:26Speaker 7: I want to say, I want to say submission. I
- 38:27Speaker 7: don't think it's gonna.
- 38:28Speaker 12: Be a a.
- 38:31Speaker 7: Direct pin I see Damien. I mean it's type of
- 38:35Speaker 7: guy to tap out for Gunther. Ah, but yeah, Damien's
- 38:41Speaker 7: gonna get pretty close. And even you know what, I
- 38:45Speaker 7: could even see some sort of shenanigans from somebody, specifically
- 38:51Speaker 7: Judgment Day interfering, maybe Finn Balor, because it looks like
- 38:55Speaker 7: Judgment Day still just isn't done with Damian Priest. I
- 39:01Speaker 7: would like them to be. I would like Judgment Day
- 39:03Speaker 7: to kind of move on from them. Judgment Day has
- 39:06Speaker 7: evolved so much in the past few years. Jesus, Yeah, Unfortunately,
- 39:17Speaker 7: even though he's a face and he's quite still popular
- 39:21Speaker 7: and he's over and he's a former world heavyweight champion
- 39:25Speaker 7: and he's free from the grip of judgment day, I
- 39:31Speaker 7: still think Gunter is gonna walk out your World heavyweight champion, Drey.
- 39:39Speaker 1: Yeah. I do not like how this feud has or
- 39:43Speaker 1: this match has been built up and just well, first
- 39:48Speaker 1: things first, Yeah, I do believe that Gulch is gonna retain,
- 39:51Speaker 1: but I don't like the way that they've been doing
- 39:55Speaker 1: the story of this match, just from the standpoint of
- 40:01Speaker 1: the way they've booked Damian Priest in this match. He's
- 40:06Speaker 1: been They've been doing this thing where Damian Priest is
- 40:10Speaker 1: seeming like the stronger of the two. He's pretty much
- 40:13Speaker 1: got in the upper hand on Gunter at every interaction
- 40:16Speaker 1: that they've had, and he's been the one, you know,
- 40:22Speaker 1: talking the most shit and being the more arrogant one
- 40:25Speaker 1: of the two. And they're almost playing up the story
- 40:29Speaker 1: like Gunter is the one who has to overcome something
- 40:33Speaker 1: in this match, even though he's the defending champion. Usually
- 40:40Speaker 1: that's the role of the babyface, Like the babyface is
- 40:44Speaker 1: the one who has to overcome the heel the babyface
- 40:47Speaker 1: is the one chasing and challenging, whereas this one and
- 40:52Speaker 1: you know, the heel is usually the one that's the
- 40:55Speaker 1: arrogant one, the shit talking one, this, that, and the third,
- 40:59Speaker 1: whereas this they're almost flipped it on its head, and
- 41:03Speaker 1: Damian Priest is the babyface who is the cocky, trash talking,
- 41:10Speaker 1: talking down to the person that he has to try
- 41:14Speaker 1: to defeat to take their title from. And they're almost
- 41:19Speaker 1: almost seemingly at times trying to make Gunter almost like
- 41:22Speaker 1: seem like a sympathetic figure and the one that has
- 41:27Speaker 1: to overcome a challenge to keep his own belt. I
- 41:34Speaker 1: just don't like the way that's being told. I don't
- 41:38Speaker 1: like the way they're playing that that story out. It's
- 41:40Speaker 1: not really vibing with me. I mean, I know, gun
- 41:45Speaker 1: like this whole match. The storyline in this match is
- 41:49Speaker 1: all about Gunter in this match, as opposed to it
- 41:53Speaker 1: being about the babyface trying to become the champion or
- 41:59Speaker 1: you know, Damian Priest, the guy who's the babyface, the
- 42:01Speaker 1: one who's popular with over with the fans, trying to
- 42:04Speaker 1: regain the title. This story is more like, has Gunter
- 42:09Speaker 1: lost his edge? His Gunter? Can he get that thing
- 42:13Speaker 1: back become that dominant person that he once was again.
- 42:17Speaker 1: And I don't I don't like the way the fact
- 42:20Speaker 1: that they're using Damian Priest as his foil in this
- 42:25Speaker 1: in this feud, because it seems like, when it seems
- 42:30Speaker 1: hella predictable, that obviously Gunter's going to win, and he
- 42:33Speaker 1: is somehow going to get that old thing back quote
- 42:36Speaker 1: unquote or whatever to win. I don't think Damian Priest
- 42:41Speaker 1: is gonna pay. I'd be shocked if he actually makes
- 42:44Speaker 1: Damian Priest tap out. I would be shocked if that happens,
- 42:46Speaker 1: and probably upset if he Yeah, that'd probably be upset
- 42:49Speaker 1: if he made Damien Priest tap out. I think he
- 42:51Speaker 1: wins by just regular penfall. But yeah, I don't like
- 42:55Speaker 1: Damian Priest being made to be the foil in service
- 42:59Speaker 1: of Gunter's story when he's the one that's supposed to
- 43:03Speaker 1: be trying to capture the title and become a champion,
- 43:07Speaker 1: but it seems like he's just being used as a again,
- 43:12Speaker 1: just for the Gunter's story. He's almost being served up
- 43:15Speaker 1: like a sacrificial now and then where does this leave
- 43:21Speaker 1: Damian Priest after this, after he ineverably loses, does he
- 43:24Speaker 1: fall into that category that Bobby Lashley was perpetually stuck
- 43:28Speaker 1: in before he left WW A forever challenger but never
- 43:32Speaker 1: champion again, I don't. I don't really want that for
- 43:35Speaker 1: him either. So Gunter's gonna win, But honestly, I don't
- 43:42Speaker 1: like the way this is played is played out so far.
- 43:48Speaker 9: Do Yeah?
- 43:51Speaker 10: I mean, I kind of once again echoed pretty much
- 43:54Speaker 10: with Dre said, no, I'm not a huge Damien Priest fan,
- 43:58Speaker 10: but credit where creditors do?
- 43:59Speaker 9: I think he has improved steadily this entire year, both
- 44:03Speaker 9: in the ring and on the mic. Not that he
- 44:05Speaker 9: like was green or anything, you know, but he's grown
- 44:08Speaker 9: on me a little bit.
- 44:09Speaker 10: But Drey said it great, like the vibes just are
- 44:13Speaker 10: not there for this when for me either, it's just
- 44:17Speaker 10: been kind of a boring build I think, and not
- 44:20Speaker 10: that interesting.
- 44:22Speaker 9: I kind of don't really give a shit, you know
- 44:24Speaker 9: what I mean?
- 44:26Speaker 10: But you know, in terms of who's gonna win, Gunther
- 44:29Speaker 10: never loses, and he's sure as fuck doesn't lose two
- 44:32Speaker 10: pay per viewers in a row. So I think maybe
- 44:36Speaker 10: once that I think punk, Maybe I'm surprised that gun
- 44:41Speaker 10: through punk isn't happening now.
- 44:44Speaker 9: But I think that's probably the plan I'm going forward.
- 44:48Speaker 10: But then when, just like Drey said, where does that
- 44:50Speaker 10: leave Damian Brice, I just have a question mark.
- 44:52Speaker 9: I have no idea. I think it would be a
- 44:54Speaker 9: step back for him to start feeding with Judgment Day again,
- 45:00Speaker 9: but I don't know that. I don't I'm not sure
- 45:02Speaker 9: what direction else he would go in. You know, yeah,
- 45:07Speaker 9: he does.
- 45:07Speaker 10: He does seem like one of those guys that's gonna
- 45:11Speaker 10: ride out of his contract and then go be a
- 45:13Speaker 10: six time aw champion or something, you know what I mean.
- 45:17Speaker 9: But we'll see what happens. But yeah, I think I'll
- 45:20Speaker 9: throw a win, but I don't know.
- 45:22Speaker 1: I don't really care.
- 45:23Speaker 9: It's not doing it for me.
- 45:25Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, like, let's let's be honest, Like, let's
- 45:29Speaker 7: get to the reason why why we're all here. You know,
- 45:34Speaker 7: we're here for the two matches on the card, the
- 45:38Speaker 7: women's War Games match and the men's Board Games match. Uh,
- 45:43Speaker 7: and it sucks. This is a Survivor series and this
- 45:46Speaker 7: is the two most exciting matches on the card. And
- 45:50Speaker 7: for me, the women's is less exciting for me than
- 45:54Speaker 7: the men's. The women's here, we got team Ri Ripley
- 46:00Speaker 7: with a horrible god awful, terrible, no good, very bad mask,
- 46:10Speaker 7: just terrible teammate with Bianca bell Air, Naomi Eo Sky
- 46:17Speaker 7: and Bailey and they're gonna first the Judgment Day Live Morgan,
- 46:22Speaker 7: Raquel Rodriguez, Naya Jacks, Tiffany Stratton, and Candice Larray. As
- 46:29Speaker 7: you recall last pay per view, we had Live versus Naya,
- 46:34Speaker 7: and now all of a sudden, their team totally cool
- 46:38Speaker 7: with each other.
- 46:40Speaker 3: Ah.
- 46:42Speaker 7: Yeah, and even though Bailey has been feuding with Damage
- 46:48Speaker 7: Control for months now, her and Io are cool to
- 46:51Speaker 7: be on a team. And at one point Rhea just
- 46:56Speaker 7: ran through the roster of all these women, and you
- 46:58Speaker 7: know she. I think the return for Rio was pretty early.
- 47:05Speaker 7: I felt like she. I think we talked about this before.
- 47:08Speaker 7: Could have could have waited a while for her to return.
- 47:12Speaker 7: I think she didn't. She wouldn't have to wear the
- 47:14Speaker 7: noseguard thing and look it as awful as she does
- 47:19Speaker 7: with it. Maybe if the paper was on Halloween, maybe
- 47:24Speaker 7: it would have worked out in her favor. But uh,
- 47:28Speaker 7: you know, I think we're gonna get uh you know,
- 47:35Speaker 7: the good guys are gonna go over on this one.
- 47:40Speaker 7: The reason why Jade Cargol isn't on the mat on
- 47:45Speaker 7: the card, she was quote unquote taken out. And when
- 47:50Speaker 7: we get to news, we'll talk out. We'll talk a
- 47:52Speaker 7: little bit more about that. No. I thought there would
- 47:56Speaker 7: have been an empty spot for a while and maybe
- 47:59Speaker 7: we would have got like a big, a big return.
- 48:01Speaker 7: But Bailey kind of seemed like the most obvious one
- 48:04Speaker 7: to be put in there. And I'm not saying, isn't
- 48:10Speaker 7: Bailey part of the United States title bracket that they're
- 48:15Speaker 7: doing too? Like some of these women are, uh yeah,
- 48:19Speaker 7: so we're not even doing.
- 48:24Speaker 9: Was okay?
- 48:26Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 48:28Speaker 7: This team really seemed like it was just out of
- 48:32Speaker 7: nowhere put together, you know. I I was so confused.
- 48:37Speaker 7: I felt like I missed an episode of Raw. When
- 48:40Speaker 7: this team was put together, I was like, what, okay,
- 48:44Speaker 7: so now they're now living I are cool with each
- 48:48Speaker 7: other and and Tiffany and Canceled, right, they're all they're
- 48:51Speaker 7: all cool because they last paper view the almost killed
- 48:54Speaker 7: each other, all of them. It was like, but they're
- 48:56Speaker 7: cool right for the sake because they don't like Riha
- 49:01Speaker 7: and Bianca and Naomi and EO and and Bailey.
- 49:04Speaker 1: That's it.
- 49:06Speaker 7: I don't know, it's kind of all over the place,
- 49:08Speaker 7: but that's not the point there. There really is no
- 49:11Speaker 7: true storyline for the women's War Games match, not like
- 49:14Speaker 7: the truly is one for the men's. I'm just excited
- 49:19Speaker 7: because I know we're gonna get really good spots. I uh,
- 49:22Speaker 7: you know, we're gonna get an impressive spot. But by Bianca,
- 49:25Speaker 7: you know, damn well, we're gonna get a high spot
- 49:28Speaker 7: from EO for sure. That's why she's in this match.
- 49:32Speaker 7: I expect Naya Jacks to get you know, annihilated in
- 49:36Speaker 7: this match. Definitely teamed up on uh you know, uh,
- 49:41Speaker 7: maybe we'll see Tiffy take a dive off the top.
- 49:45Speaker 7: We've seen her do it in the chamber, but we
- 49:47Speaker 7: haven't seen her do it in you know, a War
- 49:50Speaker 7: Games match. And then you got Raquel and Canisler rat.
- 49:56Speaker 9: They're just there.
- 50:00Speaker 7: Uh yeah, good guys are gonna go over on this.
- 50:05Speaker 7: I think I've said enough, Drey, Well, what's your thoughts
- 50:09Speaker 7: on this whole match?
- 50:13Speaker 1: Well, one, I think I would not guarantee that the
- 50:18Speaker 1: women that the baby uh the faces go over in
- 50:22Speaker 1: this match. If there was an opportunity for the Heels
- 50:27Speaker 1: to win this one, this would probably be it, even
- 50:30Speaker 1: though it has been pretty routine, like every women's War
- 50:36Speaker 1: Games match, the Faces have gone over because the Faces
- 50:39Speaker 1: team has been pretty damn op compared to that. I
- 50:43Speaker 1: think what twice it was damaged Control facing like ops
- 50:48Speaker 1: women's baby face teams, So like, what was it last
- 50:53Speaker 1: year was like Bianca and Charlotte and Becky Lynch and
- 50:59Speaker 1: versus damn control Like.
- 51:01Speaker 7: It was op as fuck it and they had Shazi.
- 51:06Speaker 1: Right, like Shati was the one odd one out.
- 51:10Speaker 7: Yeah, you're right, it was.
- 51:12Speaker 1: Yeah, this year it's not quite as opie, especially with
- 51:16Speaker 1: Jay Cargill haven't been taken out, although admittedly Bianca, Bailey
- 51:21Speaker 1: and Rhea on the same team is pretty damn strong,
- 51:27Speaker 1: so you know, but it's you know, arguably countered by
- 51:32Speaker 1: just the sheer force of Nia Jacks herself because they
- 51:34Speaker 1: have done a hell of a job over the last
- 51:37Speaker 1: year of making Nia Jacks a absolute beast in the
- 51:41Speaker 1: women's division. Right, But to your point about how this
- 51:46Speaker 1: has been thrown together, yeah, this has been the build
- 51:50Speaker 1: up is this match has been terrible. This has been
- 51:53Speaker 1: very poorly booked in the build up, which sucks because
- 51:58Speaker 1: there was so much opportunity for some really good storytelling
- 52:03Speaker 1: and the build up to this match, just because, especially
- 52:06Speaker 1: on the women's face side, like the Heels, they're you know,
- 52:10Speaker 1: coming together makes sense to a certain extent. Yeah, they
- 52:14Speaker 1: faced each other last month, but that was for you know,
- 52:18Speaker 1: a bullshit bragging rights title. They're still heels and they
- 52:21Speaker 1: still have their you know, regular beasts with these other people,
- 52:24Speaker 1: and if they come together to take down their adversaries,
- 52:27Speaker 1: that makes sense. It's you know, doesn't need much you know,
- 52:30Speaker 1: gymnastics for that to happen. You know, that just pretty simple, straightforward.
- 52:35Speaker 1: Whereas on the side of the Faces, there was so
- 52:40Speaker 1: much opportunity to be told there with Bailey joining this team,
- 52:45Speaker 1: but they waited too long to do it. Now, you know,
- 52:50Speaker 1: obviously Jade is out for you know, k fabe and
- 52:55Speaker 1: real reasons. I also agree with you that Rea did
- 52:59Speaker 1: not need to be in this match at all. Honestly,
- 53:01Speaker 1: this match could have been totally fine as a four
- 53:03Speaker 1: v four. We could have been totally fine without Candice
- 53:08Speaker 1: Lay and rear Ripley in this match, and the storyline
- 53:12Speaker 1: on the women's side could have been about Bianca Eo
- 53:16Speaker 1: and Bailey and Naomi those four trying to come together
- 53:23Speaker 1: and make amends. You know, with Bailey having to reconcile
- 53:26Speaker 1: with EO after their you know, beef earlier this year,
- 53:31Speaker 1: you know that reconciliation need to happen. Bianca and Bailey
- 53:35Speaker 1: have some sort of reconciliation or trying to come to
- 53:37Speaker 1: some sort of tentative agreement to work together during this match,
- 53:41Speaker 1: with Naomi caught in the middle trying to keep the peace,
- 53:43Speaker 1: like there was storyline there to be told, but instead
- 53:48Speaker 1: we got a seemingly rushed return of Rea Ripley rocking
- 53:53Speaker 1: the God Awful Mask and then Jay being taken out
- 53:58Speaker 1: and which causes Bailey to fire be in the match,
- 54:01Speaker 1: and you know, now they have basically one show to
- 54:05Speaker 1: try to play out that story and then the match
- 54:08Speaker 1: itself to like, yeah, it's very terribly booked, terribly terribly booked.
- 54:14Speaker 1: There was a lot of wasted opportunity in the build
- 54:16Speaker 1: up to this match that we could have gotten so
- 54:19Speaker 1: much more to make us more invested in what happens
- 54:23Speaker 1: in this match. As far as all I picked the win,
- 54:29Speaker 1: I'm gonna go against the grain. I actually think I think,
- 54:31Speaker 1: I actually think the Heels are gonna win. Okay, I
- 54:37Speaker 1: think if there's any If they're gonna try to tell
- 54:40Speaker 1: any remaining story, it may play out in the match itself,
- 54:44Speaker 1: with Bailey and Bianca and EO and them maybe not
- 54:48Speaker 1: being able to get along enough in this match, which
- 54:51Speaker 1: allows the Heels mostly Naya, to get the win.
- 54:59Speaker 13: See, come on, don't be crazy, You're not crazy, you
- 55:05Speaker 13: think so. The Heels, I just don't think they're functional
- 55:10Speaker 13: as a team.
- 55:11Speaker 7: I I just don't. I think they're gonna They literally
- 55:14Speaker 7: just fought last pay per view. I just don't think
- 55:16Speaker 7: they're gonna function well.
- 55:17Speaker 1: But but the Heels, Yeah, the Heels have been getting
- 55:20Speaker 1: along better than the Faces. I mean we saw I know,
- 55:23Speaker 1: but it doesn't I know, total their heels.
- 55:28Speaker 9: Yeah, bad guys are always friends.
- 55:30Speaker 1: With It's just bad guys get along all the time
- 55:33Speaker 1: because like, hey, we hate them motherfuckers. That's all we
- 55:35Speaker 1: need to get along.
- 55:36Speaker 7: They literally acted like Saudi did not. Yeah they did.
- 55:40Speaker 7: They did. The sons of bitches did it. They act
- 55:43Speaker 7: like it never exists.
- 55:45Speaker 1: Yeah, and we all knew that going into the damn
- 55:48Speaker 1: thing that it was everyone.
- 55:50Speaker 9: I know.
- 55:51Speaker 1: I'm just a side.
- 55:55Speaker 7: It's still really me, damn it.
- 55:59Speaker 1: It's these shows are basically our side. Quest the only
- 56:02Speaker 1: one that mattered was the King and Queen of the Ring.
- 56:05Speaker 1: The crowne Crowndrew is a side quest every year.
- 56:08Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 56:09Speaker 7: Fuck here, I am thinking about continuity and ship, trying
- 56:12Speaker 7: to keep fa alive and.
- 56:17Speaker 1: Yep, and to a certain extent, I mean they haven't
- 56:20Speaker 1: completely abandoned it because Naya and Live did both states
- 56:25Speaker 1: with each other that I actually don't like you. They
- 56:28Speaker 1: said that in the Ring to each other. So yeah,
- 56:31Speaker 1: they're getting along quote unquote, but they don't actually like
- 56:35Speaker 1: each other because they're heels like he'lls hate everybody, right,
- 56:39Speaker 1: But they have enough of an agreement to work together
- 56:42Speaker 1: because yeah, I don't like you, but I hate them
- 56:45Speaker 1: motherfuckers over there. Yeah, yeah, is my friend, right, So
- 56:51Speaker 1: they at least have an agreement, whereas they're still tenuous
- 56:54Speaker 1: on the women's baby face side, even though it's been
- 56:57Speaker 1: it's played out very poorly.
- 57:00Speaker 7: Yeah, m m hm, Doyle, Now let's hear your thoughts.
- 57:11Speaker 10: I just want to say, Dre, your your wasted opportunity
- 57:15Speaker 10: is certainly a fair criticism. But I think like an
- 57:18Speaker 10: unanswerable question will always be they will never get an
- 57:22Speaker 10: answer to, is how much Riha Ripley's start and stop
- 57:26Speaker 10: injury fucked up things because she went from she's going
- 57:29Speaker 10: to be out for it indefinitely to whoop, She's.
- 57:32Speaker 9: Back all of a sudden. Uh.
- 57:35Speaker 10: I don't know if they got in there that the
- 57:36Speaker 10: X ray and they're like, oh wait, this isn't nearly
- 57:38Speaker 10: as bad as we thought it was. Uh So, I
- 57:41Speaker 10: don't know if they started going one direction and what went.
- 57:43Speaker 9: Well, wait a minute, we got Ria back, so let's
- 57:45Speaker 9: boom turn it around in this direction.
- 57:47Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 57:48Speaker 10: We'll probably never know. Yeah, you know, in always Sonny
- 57:52Speaker 10: and Philadelphia, the meme of Charlie with the with the
- 57:55Speaker 10: with the board and all.
- 58:01Speaker 9: So I'm going to try to verbalize this as best
- 58:03Speaker 9: I can.
- 58:05Speaker 10: This is kind of like the opposite of the men's match,
- 58:07Speaker 10: or you've had one storyline, you know, and it's one
- 58:12Speaker 10: we've been following for years really at this point and
- 58:15Speaker 10: kind of saw coming since WrestleMania, Right. This is like
- 58:19Speaker 10: a conveyance of multiple storylines that really have only kind
- 58:23Speaker 10: of taken shape in the last couple of weeks.
- 58:26Speaker 9: You know, So a lot of moving parts here. Who
- 58:32Speaker 9: injured Jade Cargill.
- 58:35Speaker 10: May may play a factor in this match, may not
- 58:37Speaker 10: play a factor in this match, like how soon do
- 58:40Speaker 10: we find out? Do we not find out until she's
- 58:42Speaker 10: ready to come back, or do we find out during
- 58:45Speaker 10: the course of this match? And what happens to the
- 58:49Speaker 10: tag titles is another is a related question to that.
- 58:54Speaker 10: So I'm not sure if it's going to play a
- 58:55Speaker 10: part in the match or not, but I wouldn't rule
- 58:58Speaker 10: it out either. You know, I'd see Jade showing up
- 59:01Speaker 10: on the screen during the match and playing the security
- 59:04Speaker 10: footage or whatever in revealing that it's you know, so
- 59:08Speaker 10: and so.
- 59:11Speaker 9: Like I said, a lot of moving parts already. I
- 59:13Speaker 9: don't know if it needs that much over complication because
- 59:17Speaker 9: there's already a lot of complication.
- 59:19Speaker 10: As for what happens to the titles, the curse continues,
- 59:23Speaker 10: the tag title, the women's tag title curs. We've seen
- 59:28Speaker 10: teams stripped of the titles, and we've seen because of injury,
- 59:31Speaker 10: we've seen tag champs.
- 59:33Speaker 9: Get a new partner so they can kind of do
- 59:35Speaker 9: whatever they want. Who are the suspects?
- 59:39Speaker 10: Well, I think Bailey, but she just turned babyface not
- 59:42Speaker 10: long ago. I'm not sure to turning her heel again,
- 59:45Speaker 10: so soon is the right way to go. Bianca is
- 59:49Speaker 10: a suspect, I think, but that doesn't make a whole
- 59:51Speaker 10: lot of sense. She cost herself a shot at the
- 59:54Speaker 10: US title when she ran to go help, and she
- 59:59Speaker 10: may end up lose in the tag title also as
- 1:00:01Speaker 10: a result.
- 1:00:02Speaker 9: So I don't know.
- 1:00:03Speaker 10: My pick is Naomi, especially if she gets Jade's tag
- 1:00:07Speaker 10: title just handed to her.
- 1:00:11Speaker 9: I think she needs some kind of shake up with
- 1:00:13Speaker 9: her character.
- 1:00:14Speaker 10: She hasn't really done a hell of a lot since
- 1:00:16Speaker 10: she came back, and he'll turn could be what she needs. Anyway,
- 1:00:22Speaker 10: back to Bailey, her involvement in this match is really
- 1:00:25Speaker 10: always seemed more natural to me than EOS. Like I
- 1:00:30Speaker 10: guess Eos the number one contender to live, so that's
- 1:00:33Speaker 10: how she gets herself involved. But I really wish they
- 1:00:35Speaker 10: had had like Bianca and then going around and trying
- 1:00:38Speaker 10: to recruit her as a war games specialist or whatever,
- 1:00:41Speaker 10: because she's always in the wargage matches, right, Yeah, it
- 1:00:46Speaker 10: seems like she's just.
- 1:00:47Speaker 9: There, like she just kind of showed up on day.
- 1:00:50Speaker 10: There was no real like, hey, you know, we're together,
- 1:00:55Speaker 10: you know, speaking of Leo, and like I appreciate the
- 1:00:58Speaker 10: wrestlers have memory nowadays, is but like Bianca is still
- 1:01:03Speaker 10: mad at Bailey because of damage control, but she doesn't
- 1:01:06Speaker 10: have that problem with EO, and they kind of like,
- 1:01:10Speaker 10: and I think.
- 1:01:10Speaker 9: Drey, I think you kind of mentioned it.
- 1:01:12Speaker 10: They played a little bit of lip service to that
- 1:01:13Speaker 10: when they were trying to get a fifth and EO goes, well,
- 1:01:16Speaker 10: how about carry saying She's like, well, I don't really
- 1:01:18Speaker 10: like her. You're okay, though, like why? And I hope
- 1:01:21Speaker 10: they're gonna play up the tension between Bailey and EO.
- 1:01:25Speaker 10: I hope they don't just clot over.
- 1:01:27Speaker 9: That, yeah, totally ignore it or or fully embrace it.
- 1:01:32Speaker 10: You can't just kind of like, we like this, so
- 1:01:36Speaker 10: we're gonna keep that, but we're just gonna commediately forget
- 1:01:39Speaker 10: that that happened over there.
- 1:01:41Speaker 7: Just one dialogue fix. It's like, I'm only here because
- 1:01:47Speaker 7: I hate her. I hate them way worse than I
- 1:01:50Speaker 7: hate you, like you know, something like that. It's all
- 1:01:53Speaker 7: it takes.
- 1:01:54Speaker 1: And then it's like, okay, yeah, and it's a good
- 1:02:00Speaker 1: point that you bring up about you know Bailey, I mean,
- 1:02:03Speaker 1: not Bailey, about Bianca, just being like, oh, EO, you're
- 1:02:06Speaker 1: part of this. I cool, Like Yanka, you should legitimately
- 1:02:09Speaker 1: have some beef with EO because she's the one that
- 1:02:12Speaker 1: he throwed US champion. Yeah right, like an was part
- 1:02:16Speaker 1: of damage control.
- 1:02:17Speaker 9: But but she's mad at Bailey but not Io. That
- 1:02:19Speaker 9: doesn't make like shouldn't you be mad at both of them?
- 1:02:22Speaker 1: Right?
- 1:02:26Speaker 9: Another thing neither you mentioned is Tiffany in this.
- 1:02:30Speaker 14: Uh.
- 1:02:32Speaker 9: I think we may finally get it.
- 1:02:35Speaker 10: I think we talked about it last year with the
- 1:02:37Speaker 10: money in the bank winner being in with a champion
- 1:02:39Speaker 10: in the War Games match. Now Tiffany is gonna be
- 1:02:41Speaker 10: in with both champions, you know, whether it's following the
- 1:02:46Speaker 10: match or during the match itself.
- 1:02:48Speaker 9: I'm not sure which, uh it could be.
- 1:02:51Speaker 10: Didn't like, didn't Dakota Kai like turnheel during her entrance
- 1:02:56Speaker 10: and just start beating up the person who was in
- 1:02:58Speaker 10: the cage with a knocks.
- 1:03:01Speaker 7: Teagan knocks, Yeah she uh Teagan knocks out before she
- 1:03:05Speaker 7: even like got it. Was stupid. I mean, I didn't
- 1:03:08Speaker 7: see I.
- 1:03:10Speaker 9: Don't know, maybe Tiffany.
- 1:03:11Speaker 10: Maybe Tiffany's third or second to last in and n
- 1:03:16Speaker 10: is there and she slams her head in the cage
- 1:03:18Speaker 10: and pins her and wins the title and goes, I
- 1:03:21Speaker 10: don't know, something like that.
- 1:03:23Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean I think we talked about it with priest.
- 1:03:25Speaker 1: Interesting, but I think that would be well, that would
- 1:03:27Speaker 1: be a hell of a shock because I think technically
- 1:03:29Speaker 1: you can't pin anybody until war games actually begins, but but.
- 1:03:35Speaker 9: You can still catch in money in the bag, right.
- 1:03:37Speaker 7: I never I never understood. I never liked the concept
- 1:03:42Speaker 7: of war games, like, okay, so it's two people, right,
- 1:03:45Speaker 7: and then I watch your mouth listen to me, now listen,
- 1:03:51Speaker 7: I don't like that, Yeah, I don't. She made an
- 1:03:56Speaker 7: elimination right.
- 1:03:59Speaker 9: Well no, I mean even war games wasn't an elimination.
- 1:04:01Speaker 1: But it was always ended on it always submit or surrender.
- 1:04:05Speaker 1: That's how it was back in the day. Yeah, there
- 1:04:07Speaker 1: was no pinfall. That was a w W E thing
- 1:04:09Speaker 1: that they threw in it used to be back in
- 1:04:12Speaker 1: the day. Yeah, because you know, there's a Dusty concept
- 1:04:17Speaker 1: that you know, you started off with, you know, one
- 1:04:20Speaker 1: on one, and then another person would be added on
- 1:04:22Speaker 1: and the match never officially began until everybody was in
- 1:04:25Speaker 1: the ring that part they've at least retained, and then,
- 1:04:28Speaker 1: as Dusty called it, the match beyond would begin when
- 1:04:31Speaker 1: everybody was in and from there the only way you
- 1:04:35Speaker 1: could win was by submit or surrender, which by surrender.
- 1:04:39Speaker 1: They basically meant beat somebody until they can't continue anymore.
- 1:04:42Speaker 7: Yeah, I thought it. I thought it was war games.
- 1:04:45Speaker 1: That's the war games I grew up. That's the war
- 1:04:47Speaker 1: game I loved because I had that brutality, like you
- 1:04:51Speaker 1: were really in there to beat the ship out of people,
- 1:04:54Speaker 1: not to win a match. It was like, no, this
- 1:04:56Speaker 1: beef has gotten so serious.
- 1:04:58Speaker 10: Yeah, and that's and that's what I hate that we need.
- 1:05:01Speaker 10: We need to not only force one, but two of
- 1:05:03Speaker 10: these every year at the same time. Like, Okay, the
- 1:05:06Speaker 10: men's won this year, of course makes perfect sense that
- 1:05:08Speaker 10: that needs to happen in a war game, but these
- 1:05:11Speaker 10: these ladies, this, this doesn't seem like a big enough
- 1:05:14Speaker 10: spat to need to need.
- 1:05:17Speaker 9: The only way we can tittle this isn't you know, like.
- 1:05:21Speaker 1: Beef on the women's in does not feel significant enough
- 1:05:23Speaker 1: to really It's.
- 1:05:24Speaker 10: Like when they used to have a Hell on the
- 1:05:25Speaker 10: Cell pay per view, and so you had to have
- 1:05:27Speaker 10: a Hell on a Cell match regardless if a feud
- 1:05:30Speaker 10: was hot enough or not.
- 1:05:31Speaker 9: Right now, this kind of.
- 1:05:34Speaker 7: Feels like that this would have been perfect for the Okay,
- 1:05:37Speaker 7: we have the one War Games match and then now
- 1:05:41Speaker 7: the women's will have the standard raw versus smack down.
- 1:05:45Speaker 9: Right, I feel so much more fun as an elimination
- 1:05:49Speaker 9: tag match.
- 1:05:51Speaker 7: Yeah wa wah yeah.
- 1:05:53Speaker 9: But one final uh, one final thread for this match.
- 1:05:57Speaker 10: Uh for for in my thoughts here, you know, we
- 1:06:03Speaker 10: mentioned cem Punk returning last year and maybe trying to
- 1:06:06Speaker 10: recreate that. Uh, this seems like a good opportunity to
- 1:06:10Speaker 10: try to do that for the women anyway. The fucking
- 1:06:14Speaker 10: number of people that are currently out is ridiculous, you know,
- 1:06:18Speaker 10: Charlotte Becky, Alexa Bliss, Carmela ask shots.
- 1:06:22Speaker 9: You know, I don't think shots in the conversation, but
- 1:06:26Speaker 9: somebody on that list coming out and just hey, I'm back,
- 1:06:31Speaker 9: you know, Uh, I think all all of them, and
- 1:06:35Speaker 9: I'm sure I'm forgetting in a couple of people. A
- 1:06:39Speaker 9: whole bunch of women seem like they're coming back any
- 1:06:42Speaker 9: second now.
- 1:06:43Speaker 1: Only when that could problem is the only one that
- 1:06:45Speaker 1: could move the needle that way would be Charlotte, and
- 1:06:49Speaker 1: I don't want her having no parts of this match.
- 1:06:52Speaker 1: They can save her for Saturday night main event or something.
- 1:06:56Speaker 9: I don't mean getting involved in the match.
- 1:06:58Speaker 1: Just like returning and but this will be the spot
- 1:07:01Speaker 1: like after the match or something. Like that to return.
- 1:07:06Speaker 10: Oh and I have the baby faces going over just
- 1:07:10Speaker 10: because spoiler alert, I have the heels went in the men.
- 1:07:14Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I got about that part too. Yeah.
- 1:07:17Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe they just pissed off everybody tonight.
- 1:07:23Speaker 7: God.
- 1:07:24Speaker 9: Uh, it's time for time.
- 1:07:29Speaker 7: Yeah, it's time for the main event. It's time for
- 1:07:35Speaker 7: war games, all right. Uh so we've been finally, finally, finally, finally,
- 1:07:44Speaker 7: this is what it's been leading up to, besides the
- 1:07:48Speaker 7: big WrestleMania uh storyline pinpoints for the bloodline. I mean
- 1:07:54Speaker 7: that that was that was big last year this year,
- 1:08:00Speaker 7: but the next big turning point is gonna be right here.
- 1:08:04Speaker 7: And we were alluding to this for months, maybe even
- 1:08:08Speaker 7: a full year prior, like for a while, for a
- 1:08:12Speaker 7: god damn while, and uh, it just it got bigger
- 1:08:17Speaker 7: than what we thought. We got a little bit more
- 1:08:19Speaker 7: meat on the bone, which is great because we're gonna
- 1:08:22Speaker 7: get the new bloodline of Solo Sokoa, Jacob Fatu, Tama
- 1:08:29Speaker 7: Tunga and Tunga Loa and the new addition of Bronson
- 1:08:33Speaker 7: to Reid, who fucking looks like he just fits the
- 1:08:36Speaker 7: part perfectly.
- 1:08:38Speaker 1: He really does.
- 1:08:39Speaker 4: Uh.
- 1:08:40Speaker 7: We mentioned last episode, Uh, you know, like Dre said,
- 1:08:44Speaker 7: he looked like he just came out and was meant
- 1:08:46Speaker 7: for the fucking role. Like he looks the role. He
- 1:08:48Speaker 7: looks the part, and you know, damn they got me
- 1:08:54Speaker 7: good because on the other team, we got the OG.
- 1:08:58Speaker 7: We got the OG Bloodline, Roman Reigns, we got uh
- 1:09:07Speaker 7: Jay Uso, we got Jimmy Husso. So we got the
- 1:09:11Speaker 7: us Who's back together, But most importantly, we got Sammy
- 1:09:15Speaker 7: Zaine back in the blood Line. We got all of
- 1:09:18Speaker 7: them back together. But they needed a fifth man. Oh
- 1:09:24Speaker 7: en did we get a fifth man? And we were
- 1:09:27Speaker 7: kind of close at least I I Trey he got
- 1:09:31Speaker 7: me man, like thinking, oh, what if you know, Paul
- 1:09:35Speaker 7: Hayman guy comes out right, and I totally did not
- 1:09:39Speaker 7: think of that Paul Hayman guy. I was thinking of
- 1:09:43Speaker 7: another Paul Hayman guy. But I want to play the
- 1:09:46Speaker 7: sound clip here, so it's.
- 1:09:50Speaker 6: Not going to be four versus five, It's going to
- 1:10:04Speaker 6: be five versus.
- 1:10:10Speaker 1: Five.
- 1:10:24Speaker 9: No.
- 1:10:29Speaker 7: It was one of those moments where like like a
- 1:10:33Speaker 7: few seconds before his music hit, I was like, it's
- 1:10:36Speaker 7: gotta be punk. I just had this vibe like it's
- 1:10:38Speaker 7: gotta be punk. And then when it's you know they
- 1:10:40Speaker 7: hear that. I was like, yes, I stood up and
- 1:10:44Speaker 7: I like clapped my hands. It was like fuck yes.
- 1:10:47Speaker 7: Uh you know Punk running out there wrapping his tape,
- 1:10:50Speaker 7: already getting in the ring and started throwing fists with
- 1:10:53Speaker 7: with uh Bronson reed, Uh, I'm excited for this. We
- 1:10:59Speaker 7: thought it was gonna be Seth Rawlins, you know, That's
- 1:11:02Speaker 7: who I thought they were really going towards. It made sense, right,
- 1:11:06Speaker 7: but Seth stood his ground and I like that. I
- 1:11:12Speaker 7: like that he stuck those morals of like, you know,
- 1:11:14Speaker 7: like basically like fuck Roman man, Like no, Roman, like
- 1:11:18Speaker 7: did me dirty for years? Like fuck that guy? Like
- 1:11:22Speaker 7: literally that's how he came off as and he stuck
- 1:11:25Speaker 7: to it, and I'm glad. I'm glad they didn't pull out,
- 1:11:30Speaker 7: you know, bringing Seth in as probably the most obvious pick.
- 1:11:34Speaker 7: But you know, just a few months ago he was
- 1:11:37Speaker 7: trying to prevent you know, Roman from winning the title.
- 1:11:40Speaker 7: He helped Cody, like, so it just it that would
- 1:11:44Speaker 7: be another thing that just wouldn't make sense of why
- 1:11:46Speaker 7: all of a sudden he's helping you know, Roman and
- 1:11:49Speaker 7: the bloodline who's been whooping his ass for months on end,
- 1:11:53Speaker 7: either of either side he went, why should he help
- 1:11:55Speaker 7: either side? And pretty smart for Seth to stay out
- 1:11:58Speaker 7: of it. Uh, Sampunk, you know, this is one year
- 1:12:02Speaker 7: since he's returned, and it kind of makes sense to
- 1:12:05Speaker 7: me because Sampunk has kind of been apart from any
- 1:12:10Speaker 7: bloodline shit like that. He doesn't he hasn't stuck his
- 1:12:14Speaker 7: foot in anything bloodline related, and so that's kind of
- 1:12:19Speaker 7: good here. Like he kind of has no quarrels with anybody.
- 1:12:24Speaker 7: But Sampunk's here to fight, and he's the Paul Hayman guy. Now,
- 1:12:32Speaker 7: I don't know where which side Paul Hayman is technically
- 1:12:35Speaker 7: on right now. It's most obvious that he you would
- 1:12:38Speaker 7: be on Roman side, but h I don't know. There's
- 1:12:41Speaker 7: people talking about maybe look at the outfit that he wore,
- 1:12:44Speaker 7: it's the same colors that Solo wears. Look at his
- 1:12:47Speaker 7: facial expressions, look at look at this that people are
- 1:12:50Speaker 7: dropping all types of hints for maybe another turn. And
- 1:12:54Speaker 7: I don't know the way he was treated leaving the bloodline,
- 1:13:00Speaker 7: and maybe he doesn't leave with either bloodline. Maybe he
- 1:13:04Speaker 7: leaves with Punk. I don't know why, he doesn't really
- 1:13:09Speaker 7: need to. I think this is going to be a
- 1:13:12Speaker 7: phenomenal match. I think it's been great chomping it to bits,
- 1:13:21Speaker 7: because you know what, I've been thinking about this all
- 1:13:25Speaker 7: day at work. You know, I kind of had my
- 1:13:31Speaker 7: answer this morning and I kind of stuck with it,
- 1:13:34Speaker 7: and then lunchtime came around, and I'm watching more clips online.
- 1:13:38Speaker 7: I'm watching more people say so and so it's gonna turn,
- 1:13:42Speaker 7: this person's gonna turn. I'm hearing other people's cases, you know,
- 1:13:45Speaker 7: And I really think the Heels are gonna go over
- 1:13:51Speaker 7: on this. And as as much as you want the
- 1:13:58Speaker 7: faces to go over, you know, we got everybody reuniting.
- 1:14:02Speaker 7: Everybody's bearing the fucking hatchet, you know, from all the
- 1:14:07Speaker 7: ship that Sammy has been through, all the ship that
- 1:14:10Speaker 7: Jay has been through, and the ship that Roman has
- 1:14:14Speaker 7: been through, everybody trying to stay on the same level.
- 1:14:20Speaker 1: I just.
- 1:14:22Speaker 7: I just don't think they're gonna get it. I just
- 1:14:25Speaker 7: think the new blood Line it's gonna walk away with
- 1:14:30Speaker 7: the w and it's gonna be a huge win for them.
- 1:14:33Speaker 7: It's gonna be the turning of the tide. Is gonna
- 1:14:37Speaker 7: be a new era of the Bloodline, and uh, I
- 1:14:43Speaker 7: honestly think it's gonna be the Heels. I don't know
- 1:14:46Speaker 7: where we go from here. To be honest, uh, you
- 1:14:50Speaker 7: would think that this is where this big feud would
- 1:14:54Speaker 7: probably end and people would go their ways. Maybe Roman
- 1:14:58Speaker 7: involves himself with The Rock, and that's another thing, the Rock.
- 1:15:02Speaker 7: That's a whole other conversation. If The Rock would even
- 1:15:05Speaker 7: appear tonight or tomorrow night. I don't know where he's
- 1:15:11Speaker 7: filming Moana right now, because that's up where he is.
- 1:15:15Speaker 7: There's recent set photos released. I don't know if that's
- 1:15:18Speaker 7: currently where he's at. Could he fly in and make
- 1:15:21Speaker 7: an appearance that's still a huge factor, but or are
- 1:15:25Speaker 7: they saving that for him and Cody, which, by the way,
- 1:15:30Speaker 7: Cody's not even on the fucking card. I can't believe.
- 1:15:33Speaker 7: I didn't even bring that up, not even on the card.
- 1:15:37Speaker 7: I'm kind of relieved because we don't bet.
- 1:15:40Speaker 9: I bet there's an interview segment or something.
- 1:15:42Speaker 7: Something right like middle of the show moment. I don't know, Yeah,
- 1:15:47Speaker 7: you're right, it could be halftime show promo, backstage, a moment, whatever.
- 1:15:54Speaker 7: But he doesn't need to be We got enough star
- 1:15:57Speaker 7: power here, plenty of star power that we don't need
- 1:16:01Speaker 7: him at all. But sure, if they're going to involve him,
- 1:16:07Speaker 7: they're gonna involve The Rock somehow. I don't know, but
- 1:16:12Speaker 7: I think if the Rock is going to further the
- 1:16:14Speaker 7: story with Roman, you know, this is the spot. Maybe
- 1:16:19Speaker 7: he is the wise man to the new bloodline and
- 1:16:25Speaker 7: we just.
- 1:16:25Speaker 1: Don't know it.
- 1:16:29Speaker 7: Now I've babbled long enough, Dre. Let's hear your thoughts
- 1:16:34Speaker 7: on all this, this big fucking match we've been waiting
- 1:16:36Speaker 7: for it.
- 1:16:39Speaker 1: There's no way I can see Paul Hayman coming out
- 1:16:44Speaker 1: and rejoining the guys who beat the living dog shit
- 1:16:48Speaker 1: out of him and put him through a table, right,
- 1:16:50Speaker 1: I just don't see that. I know a lot of
- 1:16:52Speaker 1: people are trying to read. I think people are just
- 1:16:54Speaker 1: reading too much into the fact that, oh, you had
- 1:16:58Speaker 1: the red shirt in the pocket square where I think
- 1:17:01Speaker 1: he was just doing red and black because that's blood
- 1:17:03Speaker 1: line colors. I think he was matching up and or
- 1:17:07Speaker 1: he's doing that as to throw people off the scent,
- 1:17:11Speaker 1: like w W is knowhing to do, like just throw
- 1:17:13Speaker 1: stuff out there just to make people speculate even and
- 1:17:17Speaker 1: just end up being completely wrong. I just I can't
- 1:17:21Speaker 1: see that they would really if they pulled that off,
- 1:17:24Speaker 1: they would have to give us like some backstory. They
- 1:17:27Speaker 1: would have to go back and fill in the blank
- 1:17:29Speaker 1: to how do we go from you being disheveled and
- 1:17:34Speaker 1: looking a whole hot mess and bloodshot eye damned interior
- 1:17:38Speaker 1: saying you are not my triple Chief and wearing a
- 1:17:41Speaker 1: whole ass whooping to coming back and all right, yeah
- 1:17:45Speaker 1: you are my travel chief. Actually, like that's long.
- 1:17:52Speaker 9: With him to remember that.
- 1:17:54Speaker 1: Yeah, like that's a long ass bridge. That's a big
- 1:17:58Speaker 1: gap to cross, right to try to bridge. So I
- 1:18:01Speaker 1: just don't see that happening. Sorry, Yeah, like I don't
- 1:18:09Speaker 1: see that part happening. Punk being in this match, I mean,
- 1:18:15Speaker 1: it is what it is. He's a Paul Hayman guy.
- 1:18:18Speaker 1: I do appreciate that. You know, he's not in there
- 1:18:21Speaker 1: as an ally he's doing He's in there basically as
- 1:18:24Speaker 1: doing this as a favorite of Paul, which is probably
- 1:18:26Speaker 1: what we're gonna see play out Friday on SmackDown when
- 1:18:29Speaker 1: him and Rome have their face to face in the ring,
- 1:18:31Speaker 1: Like Paul asked me for a favor, I'm doing this
- 1:18:34Speaker 1: for Paul. After this fuck you, it's back to fuck you,
- 1:18:38Speaker 1: so and it is what it is. The rock factor
- 1:18:43Speaker 1: in this match, It could very much factor in at
- 1:18:46Speaker 1: some point potentially, but I'm gonna say probably not. I'm
- 1:18:54Speaker 1: thinking we probably don't see the Rock again until Netflix.
- 1:19:00Speaker 1: Maybe maybe Saturday Night main Event, but I probably say
- 1:19:04Speaker 1: probably not till Netflix.
- 1:19:05Speaker 7: Netflix. That's a pretty good idea. I would definitely agree
- 1:19:08Speaker 7: on that.
- 1:19:09Speaker 1: On Yeah, Yeah, I think that's when we see him again.
- 1:19:11Speaker 1: Until then, this storyline is gonna just continue to play
- 1:19:14Speaker 1: out in some way or shape or form now, as
- 1:19:21Speaker 1: I've been saying for the longest, and I'm still gonna
- 1:19:25Speaker 1: continue to say, and I'm still banking on it, and
- 1:19:27Speaker 1: I'm still riding on it, because somehow someway Shenanigans have
- 1:19:32Speaker 1: to happen, and in order for this storyline to continue,
- 1:19:36Speaker 1: Solo in them have to win, which, at least in
- 1:19:40Speaker 1: this iteration, in this go round, they have some credibility
- 1:19:45Speaker 1: with which to win, and that damn show comes in
- 1:19:48Speaker 1: the fact of, surprisingly to say, but comes in the
- 1:19:52Speaker 1: form of Bronson rejoining their team, because now it's not
- 1:19:57Speaker 1: just Jacob fasu s doing all the heavy hitting, all
- 1:20:01Speaker 1: the heavy lifting, Solo coming in with the finish, and
- 1:20:05Speaker 1: then two you know jokers filling out the roster. You know,
- 1:20:13Speaker 1: now they got at least enough depth on their roster
- 1:20:16Speaker 1: to legitimately bang with you know, one of the greatest
- 1:20:20Speaker 1: tag teams of all time, and Roman Reigns because yeah,
- 1:20:25Speaker 1: Bronson Reid and Jacob I tu are a fucking problem.
- 1:20:29Speaker 1: I don't care how you look at it. Those two
- 1:20:31Speaker 1: together are a problem, and they should be in that
- 1:20:36Speaker 1: bitch dog walking the fuck out of damn near everybody
- 1:20:39Speaker 1: else not named Roman Reigns or jay Uzo. But they
- 1:20:47Speaker 1: are gonna I'm also in agreement that Solo and Them
- 1:20:50Speaker 1: are gonna win because that's the only way this storyline continues.
- 1:20:54Speaker 1: And in the absence of outside interference from the Rock
- 1:20:58Speaker 1: or somebody or which I don't think there's going to
- 1:21:00Speaker 1: be any outside of Aferance, then the catalyst for Roman
- 1:21:05Speaker 1: and Them losing has to come from within, and as
- 1:21:08Speaker 1: I was alluding to, I believe that's going to come
- 1:21:11Speaker 1: from Sammy's ay. I still am all the lot of
- 1:21:16Speaker 1: the of the opinion that he is going to betray
- 1:21:20Speaker 1: Roman in them, and maybe he joins I don't know
- 1:21:27Speaker 1: if he betrayed because now that Paul Hayman is coming
- 1:21:29Speaker 1: in and he's introduced Seeing Punk, I'm slightly modifying my theory.
- 1:21:33Speaker 1: I thought he was going to betray them initially enjoy
- 1:21:36Speaker 1: solo in them. I don't know if that happens.
- 1:21:40Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 1:21:41Speaker 1: Maybe maybe if Paul Hayman has some something up his sleeve,
- 1:21:46Speaker 1: if he has something up his sleeve against Roman, maybe
- 1:21:50Speaker 1: he's convinced Sammy to betray them, and Paul becomes a
- 1:21:56Speaker 1: third party in all this. Although that that also feels
- 1:22:03Speaker 1: like a bit of a stretch or reach because seeing
- 1:22:06Speaker 1: Punk is on raw, I know, brand split don't mean ship,
- 1:22:10Speaker 1: but for Inton's purposes, he's still all raw and until
- 1:22:15Speaker 1: we get to Netflix and this thing, you know, shakes out.
- 1:22:18Speaker 1: However it is on Netflix for the time being, I'm
- 1:22:20Speaker 1: still viewing him as a raw talent while everybody else,
- 1:22:24Speaker 1: well him and Sammy is raw talent about everybody else's SmackDown.
- 1:22:28Speaker 1: So ship. That almost puts me in the mindset that
- 1:22:32Speaker 1: maybe Paul would go over there and he takes Sammy
- 1:22:35Speaker 1: with him, But fun, I just don't see Paul going
- 1:22:37Speaker 1: I do still see Sammy betraying him. Would you like
- 1:22:39Speaker 1: to borrow right now? Went together the bag board?
- 1:22:43Speaker 6: Yeah, like.
- 1:22:47Speaker 7: The last time we saw Punk and and Paul Hayman together,
- 1:22:51Speaker 7: Like Paul Hayman was begging Punk taking with him you know,
- 1:22:56Speaker 7: and the whole possibly of Sammy betraying him and like,
- 1:23:00Speaker 7: I don't know, Sammy and Punk on the same page,
- 1:23:03Speaker 7: you know, Sammy, Punk and Paul Hamon and Paul Haman
- 1:23:06Speaker 7: gonna start a new group of Paul Hayman guys. Who knows, like.
- 1:23:12Speaker 1: That could be the thing that could be it that
- 1:23:14Speaker 1: you know, Paul convinces Sammy and Punk to betray well,
- 1:23:19Speaker 1: they betray Roman, and then Paul just basically says, fuck you,
- 1:23:22Speaker 1: I'm out, Yeah, walks away from all of it, and
- 1:23:25Speaker 1: it just goes over to Raw and yeah.
- 1:23:28Speaker 9: They.
- 1:23:30Speaker 7: Yeah, they won him over at all that Netflix wants.
- 1:23:33Speaker 1: Netflix wants everybody on fucking Row.
- 1:23:38Speaker 7: But like that that would that would like entice Roman
- 1:23:43Speaker 7: to come to Raw. Then if Punk's on Raw, like
- 1:23:46Speaker 7: I'm coming to Raw, you know, and that's where he
- 1:23:49Speaker 7: ends up for Netflix because he has somebody over there
- 1:23:52Speaker 7: he wants. And that's how you get Roman away from
- 1:23:55Speaker 7: the blood line, well at least the blood line on SmackDown.
- 1:24:00Speaker 1: Yeah, but then what happens with this the bloodline storyline?
- 1:24:03Speaker 1: Does it take a pause for the time being while.
- 1:24:05Speaker 7: This honestly, like I don't know anymore. After Survivors series
- 1:24:09Speaker 7: I don't know what we do with the bloodline. I mean,
- 1:24:11Speaker 7: it's it's like, this is what we were leading up to.
- 1:24:15Speaker 7: What what happens after this? Like what does do usos
- 1:24:19Speaker 7: go back to doing their own things solo wise? You know,
- 1:24:22Speaker 7: do they become a ten?
- 1:24:24Speaker 1: Yeah? Because that's the other weird thing, because we've all
- 1:24:26Speaker 1: been working on the assumption that eventually the og blood
- 1:24:29Speaker 1: line is going to come out on top. Yeah, but
- 1:24:32Speaker 1: what if that's not the plan? What if they just
- 1:24:34Speaker 1: don't What if they go down and defeat, Yeah, and
- 1:24:37Speaker 1: that is the end of the civil war with them
- 1:24:40Speaker 1: just losing.
- 1:24:42Speaker 7: Yeah, and that elevates the other guys greatly, and they
- 1:24:45Speaker 7: would totally elevate you know, family members like that.
- 1:24:49Speaker 1: It's still I would still say, it's still only elevates
- 1:24:51Speaker 1: them if Bronson re stays in. Yeah, if this is
- 1:24:54Speaker 1: a one to deal with Bronston and he goes back
- 1:24:56Speaker 1: to raw and then we talk about the Mother for
- 1:24:58Speaker 1: motherfuckers as the new dominant force. No, ronson Rey has
- 1:25:02Speaker 1: to stay in for them to maintain dominant credibility if
- 1:25:06Speaker 1: they come out on top of this.
- 1:25:09Speaker 7: Yeah, Yeah, Doyle, let's let's get your input.
- 1:25:13Speaker 1: On this, man.
- 1:25:15Speaker 10: Well, first, a little a little bit of good backstage
- 1:25:19Speaker 10: news related to this match is that Michael Pure.
- 1:25:23Speaker 9: Sexy Hayes is back off leave.
- 1:25:27Speaker 10: And he generally has been the producer for these Blood
- 1:25:30Speaker 10: Blind segments going back to the beginning, and I would.
- 1:25:34Speaker 9: Argue that his absence has been missed the last few.
- 1:25:36Speaker 10: Weeks because things haven't quite been a crisp quite quite
- 1:25:41Speaker 10: been as quite been is good without him.
- 1:25:43Speaker 9: But he's back, so hopefully, hopefully that's a good sign
- 1:25:47Speaker 9: for the match.
- 1:25:50Speaker 10: Yeah, lots of questions in this one too, got the
- 1:25:52Speaker 10: corkboard out again, strings going everywhere, But I'll address the first,
- 1:25:55Speaker 10: the big one first, because I already said it anyway.
- 1:25:58Speaker 9: Who's gonna win.
- 1:25:59Speaker 10: The Heels are gonna win, And you know, like Drey said,
- 1:26:02Speaker 10: I just can't see what their future would be if
- 1:26:04Speaker 10: they don't win. You know, if they don't win, they're
- 1:26:07Speaker 10: no longer threatening. If they're no longer a threat, what
- 1:26:09Speaker 10: the hell is the point of them even being around?
- 1:26:13Speaker 10: And if they're not around, I don't know that any
- 1:26:15Speaker 10: of them, maybe outside of Jacob Fatu and maybe Solo,
- 1:26:19Speaker 10: the other two can't stand.
- 1:26:20Speaker 9: On their own.
- 1:26:20Speaker 10: I don't think even I mean, I guess maybe put
- 1:26:24Speaker 10: them as a tag team and throw them in the
- 1:26:25Speaker 10: tag division, but.
- 1:26:28Speaker 9: None of them.
- 1:26:29Speaker 10: The mission of getting Solo to be a huge star
- 1:26:34Speaker 10: has not happened yet, mission not yet accomplished, and.
- 1:26:39Speaker 9: Therefore they've got to stick around. They've got to win.
- 1:26:44Speaker 9: But the other questions really is where the intrigue lies.
- 1:26:47Speaker 10: Right, So, first of all, see them Punk. Punk's involvement
- 1:26:49Speaker 10: here obviously is the big ticket item. By the way,
- 1:26:54Speaker 10: I know a lot of people like to say things
- 1:26:56Speaker 10: like I don't like to pat myself on the back,
- 1:26:58Speaker 10: but I say fuck that, Like Barry Horwitz, I love
- 1:27:01Speaker 10: to pat myself on the back, And I do believe
- 1:27:03Speaker 10: that it was me right here in this very program
- 1:27:07Speaker 10: that predicted to see him Punk and not Seth Rawlins
- 1:27:10Speaker 10: would be the fifth man for the oug bloodline.
- 1:27:13Speaker 1: I digress.
- 1:27:15Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, I.
- 1:27:16Speaker 10: Think Punk plays pretty much the role that I thought
- 1:27:20Speaker 10: Seth was going to play, and that is like the red.
- 1:27:22Speaker 9: Hair and the Willie Turn really won't turn kind of role.
- 1:27:28Speaker 10: I don't think Seth not being involved is ruled out either.
- 1:27:32Speaker 10: I could see Seth's getting involved in this somehow, some way.
- 1:27:35Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 1:27:36Speaker 9: I don't know if it's he jumps the cage and
- 1:27:38Speaker 9: goes after Bronson Red in the middle of it.
- 1:27:40Speaker 10: I don't know, but I could definitely see him being
- 1:27:42Speaker 10: involved somehow, you know, Like we've said, there is no
- 1:27:46Speaker 10: roof on this particular War Games cage as they use.
- 1:27:52Speaker 9: But I think, ultimately, you know.
- 1:27:54Speaker 10: The Punk can he be trusted thing is a smoke screen,
- 1:27:57Speaker 10: because I think I think they're going to do that
- 1:27:58Speaker 10: Sammy turn.
- 1:28:00Speaker 9: I just can't get over the phone thing, and this match.
- 1:28:04Speaker 10: Needs something shocking to happen in it, right or otherwise
- 1:28:07Speaker 10: what's the point.
- 1:28:10Speaker 9: The only other shocking thing I could think of I'll
- 1:28:13Speaker 9: mention in a second, but I really only it's the
- 1:28:17Speaker 9: only possibility I can really see. I don't think Seth
- 1:28:22Speaker 9: jumping the cage to attack Watson Reid would be shocking.
- 1:28:24Speaker 10: I don't think whether you know, Punk being trustworthy ending
- 1:28:29Speaker 10: up being trustworthy is shocking. I don't think Punk turning
- 1:28:33Speaker 10: on Roman makes a whole lot of sense. You know,
- 1:28:36Speaker 10: he's the only person Roman hasn't fucked over in the
- 1:28:39Speaker 10: in this whole this whole time, is the only person
- 1:28:42Speaker 10: willing to stand with him, you know, even if he's
- 1:28:45Speaker 10: only doing it for Paul Hayman.
- 1:28:47Speaker 9: It just makes no sense for him to betray Roman
- 1:28:50Speaker 9: or whoever you want to put it. Now.
- 1:28:55Speaker 10: Hayman is an interesting case, I think, you know, kind
- 1:29:01Speaker 10: of independent of Punk. I could see Hayman turning maybe uh,
- 1:29:05Speaker 10: you know, he did.
- 1:29:06Speaker 9: He was dressed like Solo.
- 1:29:08Speaker 10: He winked at Jimmy. Maybe they're in cahoots, you know,
- 1:29:14Speaker 10: I don't know. Maybe maybe Hayman turning would be shocking.
- 1:29:17Speaker 10: Maybe I should amend my prior statement. Maybe there'd be
- 1:29:20Speaker 10: three possible shocking things. See, I don't think that's off
- 1:29:25Speaker 10: the table. I do like Wayne's idea of him and
- 1:29:28Speaker 10: leaving with Punk, you know, and that might kind of
- 1:29:31Speaker 10: be a good way to write him out of the
- 1:29:32Speaker 10: Bloodline thing if he doesn't really have a real role
- 1:29:37Speaker 10: going forward.
- 1:29:38Speaker 9: When you could argue that maybe he doesn't, that might
- 1:29:41Speaker 9: be a good way to get him out of there
- 1:29:44Speaker 9: over to Raw and kind of done with it.
- 1:29:48Speaker 10: But the only other shocking thing I could think of
- 1:29:50Speaker 10: beside Sammy would be The Rock.
- 1:29:52Speaker 1: You know.
- 1:29:54Speaker 10: You know, but in the next six weeks or so,
- 1:29:56Speaker 10: you got beside Survivor series, who already said Saturday Night
- 1:29:59Speaker 10: say an event right after that, the Raw on Netflix.
- 1:30:02Speaker 9: You know, The Rock is definitely gonna be on at
- 1:30:04Speaker 9: least one of those shows. He certainly could be on
- 1:30:07Speaker 9: all three.
- 1:30:08Speaker 10: The only problem is, does The Rock become less special
- 1:30:10Speaker 10: if he's on TV every other week for a month
- 1:30:14Speaker 10: and a half. You know, do we have three appearances
- 1:30:18Speaker 10: worth of shit for him to be doing if he's
- 1:30:19Speaker 10: not building to a match, you know, unless he is
- 1:30:24Speaker 10: building to a match, maybe he's gonna have a match
- 1:30:26Speaker 10: at the Rumble or.
- 1:30:27Speaker 1: Something like that.
- 1:30:28Speaker 10: I don't know, but I'll be pretty surprised if we
- 1:30:32Speaker 10: don't see The Rock, And I'll be even more surprised
- 1:30:35Speaker 10: if at some point, maybe it's not Saturday, but at
- 1:30:38Speaker 10: some point, The Rock is revealed as the mastermind behind
- 1:30:42Speaker 10: Bloodline two point zero. Right, I think that's I think
- 1:30:46Speaker 10: that is a certainty that's gonna happen. So, I mean,
- 1:30:50Speaker 10: I think this should be a lot of fun, you know,
- 1:30:52Speaker 10: as the Bloodline turns the matches themselves really on the
- 1:30:56Speaker 10: important parts, you know, it's kind of the events that's
- 1:30:58Speaker 10: around the matches, and.
- 1:31:01Speaker 9: I expect that to be the case here. But so
- 1:31:06Speaker 9: I think the blood Line two point I was gonna win.
- 1:31:09Speaker 10: Uh, they've supposedly signed several more samoans, so I.
- 1:31:13Speaker 9: Could I could see one of them making their debut here.
- 1:31:19Speaker 10: Either I don't know what the hell, I can't remember,
- 1:31:22Speaker 10: endicular or something is one of them.
- 1:31:25Speaker 9: I think Lance to Junior. They just signed.
- 1:31:29Speaker 1: Lances in n x T. That's that's been confirmed. He's
- 1:31:32Speaker 1: part of their Oh.
- 1:31:34Speaker 9: He's one of the I D people.
- 1:31:36Speaker 1: Yeah no, no, not the I D. He's the n
- 1:31:39Speaker 1: XT class of twenty twenty four.
- 1:31:42Speaker 7: H Okay, okay, they're gonna have a sooner, have a
- 1:31:46Speaker 7: Samoan you know, royal rumble.
- 1:31:49Speaker 9: They're just gonna let you just need to. They'll just
- 1:31:51Speaker 9: have their own show.
- 1:31:51Speaker 7: Yeah, their own bloodline rumble. It's gonna be like the
- 1:31:54Speaker 7: end of you.
- 1:31:54Speaker 10: Oh like shivers, it's about yeah all right, But like
- 1:32:02Speaker 10: that's like, what are they going to do with any
- 1:32:03Speaker 10: of these? I mean, obviously we know that Roman can
- 1:32:06Speaker 10: stand alone, Jay can stand alone.
- 1:32:09Speaker 9: I'm not it's not clear to me that Jimmy can
- 1:32:10Speaker 9: stand alone, not yet anyway, Like, what are they going
- 1:32:13Speaker 9: to do with all these people on this if this
- 1:32:15Speaker 9: ever ends?
- 1:32:17Speaker 1: I thank you for your service. We wish you all
- 1:32:20Speaker 1: the best in your future endeavors, right, Like, I mean, yeah, Well,
- 1:32:26Speaker 1: the ones who seemed most most likely to end up
- 1:32:31Speaker 1: on the chopping block at the end if this all
- 1:32:34Speaker 1: comes to an end, would seem to be Tomataka and
- 1:32:38Speaker 1: Toka Loa. Although I've heard that uh Tomataga had did
- 1:32:44Speaker 1: did pretty well for himself on the independent scene in
- 1:32:48Speaker 1: h T n A before he came over to w W.
- 1:32:52Speaker 1: I heard it. I haven't seen it this uff, but
- 1:32:54Speaker 1: I heard he had a pretty decent face run over there.
- 1:32:58Speaker 1: So maybe there is something potential for him as a
- 1:33:01Speaker 1: singles competitor. And but more than likely I would I
- 1:33:05Speaker 1: could see like you said, them falling into the tag
- 1:33:08Speaker 1: team division at the end of this whole bloodline thing,
- 1:33:13Speaker 1: Solo could potentially have, you know, single success once he
- 1:33:20Speaker 1: finds himself on the main roster.
- 1:33:22Speaker 10: I think, like the entire point of post wrestlinga forty
- 1:33:27Speaker 10: bloodline has been.
- 1:33:30Speaker 1: The big star.
- 1:33:31Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, and the case yes, But.
- 1:33:35Speaker 1: I think he still just hasn't. I don't think he's
- 1:33:37Speaker 1: found himself yet as as an individual character, and a
- 1:33:41Speaker 1: lot of people still long for that old street champion
- 1:33:44Speaker 1: Solo to call from NXT, and they have said, you know,
- 1:33:47Speaker 1: he did some good things at NXT, which is why
- 1:33:49Speaker 1: he seemed to have so much fanfare when he came
- 1:33:51Speaker 1: up to the main roster finally, but outside of the Bloodline. Basically,
- 1:33:57Speaker 1: what I'm saying is, I don't think this current iteration
- 1:33:59Speaker 1: of solo is his final form, and there's there's still
- 1:34:03Speaker 1: room for him to evolve post blood Line or post
- 1:34:07Speaker 1: this iteration of his character. And obviously Jacob, you know,
- 1:34:12Speaker 1: he we haven't seen what his potential can be yet,
- 1:34:15Speaker 1: but obviously everybody's heard good things. We've gotten a glimpse
- 1:34:19Speaker 1: of it, glimpses of it. You know, clearly he has
- 1:34:22Speaker 1: some micwork potential. I can see that in him.
- 1:34:25Speaker 9: I have more faith in him being a WWE main event.
- 1:34:29Speaker 7: Than I do.
- 1:34:29Speaker 1: Jimmy definitely agreed. Agreed, Like Jimmy, I don't think Jimmy's
- 1:34:35Speaker 1: any slouch, but you know, he he doesn't appear to
- 1:34:37Speaker 1: have the charisma that Jay has, and yeah, I could
- 1:34:44Speaker 1: it's TBD with him. I don't think he's complete throwaway trash,
- 1:34:48Speaker 1: but you know, he's another one that would have to
- 1:34:50Speaker 1: find his lane. He'd have to find his character outside
- 1:34:53Speaker 1: of Bloodline or the USOS, which he hasn't done as
- 1:34:57Speaker 1: of yet.
- 1:34:58Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, I just mean, if by the way,
- 1:35:00Speaker 10: they were both singles right now, today. Who do I
- 1:35:02Speaker 10: think is going to have the better five years? I
- 1:35:05Speaker 10: would say Jacob.
- 1:35:08Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, definitely Jacob. Like we know what Jacob
- 1:35:11Speaker 1: can We've seen his potential, Like I said, obviously, we
- 1:35:13Speaker 1: know what he can do in the ring. We've gotten
- 1:35:15Speaker 1: glimpses of what he can do on the mic.
- 1:35:18Speaker 12: So yeah, yeah, all right, guys, let's take a quick
- 1:35:24Speaker 12: pause for the Cause. I got it, Pee, We're gonna
- 1:35:28Speaker 12: take a pause with the Cause, and we've got a
- 1:35:29Speaker 12: little bit of news. We're gonna wrap things up with
- 1:35:31Speaker 12: some really interesting things that has happened throughout the week.
- 1:35:36Speaker 7: Uh yeah, let me take.
- 1:35:38Speaker 9: A pause here.
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- 1:36:17Speaker 8: Be for Rooney, for Ronie sight.
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- 1:36:27Speaker 6: If it wasn't for great taste of Chef Boyded Beef
- 1:36:29Speaker 6: for Rooney the Spinner Rooney would have never been born.
- 1:36:32Speaker 15: Everyone's excited about the great taste of Chef boy r D.
- 1:36:34Speaker 15: B Ferroni And that's Beferoni, not be for Rooney. Tell
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- 1:36:42Speaker 7: All right, and we are back, and during that intermission
- 1:36:48Speaker 7: we probably played a very old commercial or a new
- 1:36:51Speaker 7: commercial that sounds very old. So we'll let you decide.
- 1:36:56Speaker 3: Uh.
- 1:36:56Speaker 7: All right, guys, I got some news and we're just
- 1:36:59Speaker 7: gonna all right into just open mic until we decide
- 1:37:03Speaker 7: to just roll it up.
- 1:37:04Speaker 1: Here we go, you s.
- 1:37:18Speaker 7: Well, I got news for you, news flash. Alright, guys.
- 1:37:27Speaker 7: We uh were talking about it throughout the show about
- 1:37:30Speaker 7: how Jade Cargile has been out of action. She was
- 1:37:34Speaker 7: left laying unconscious on top of a car. Uh, and
- 1:37:37Speaker 7: it was later diagnosed that she had deep lumbar paraspinal
- 1:37:42Speaker 7: muscle contusions. That's a fucking mouthful. A bruise, kidney sprained
- 1:37:48Speaker 7: m c L in her right knee, a tibial plate
- 1:37:52Speaker 7: two plat two bone bruise on her right knee, facial lacerations,
- 1:37:59Speaker 7: laceration is in the face, guys, you know, deep cuts.
- 1:38:04Speaker 7: She's in pool for the Women's United States Championship tournament
- 1:38:07Speaker 7: and the Women's War Games match, which is unfortunate.
- 1:38:12Speaker 9: Uh.
- 1:38:12Speaker 7: The attack angle is to cover up cargo dealing with
- 1:38:15Speaker 7: a legitimate injury. The Wrestling Observer reported that Cargo will
- 1:38:19Speaker 7: be out of action for at least three months. We
- 1:38:23Speaker 7: didn't get confirmation that Cargo is injured, but this how
- 1:38:28Speaker 7: severe it was wasn't really known entirely internally past those
- 1:38:32Speaker 7: involved in creative. They were told, uh shit, what I
- 1:38:37Speaker 7: just to depressed. They were just told it will be
- 1:38:40Speaker 7: a minimum of three months, maybe longer, which is why
- 1:38:44Speaker 7: they released a story with such severe injuries. They couldn't
- 1:38:47Speaker 7: just you know, just fucking be honest with us.
- 1:38:53Speaker 9: Parking lots of dangerous places. Man.
- 1:38:55Speaker 7: Yeah they said that. Yeah, they said that she injured
- 1:39:00Speaker 7: her neck and best case scenario, yeah, three months. So
- 1:39:08Speaker 7: in an update, Wrestling Votes is reporting that w W
- 1:39:11Speaker 7: will stripped Jade and Bianca the tag team titles, do
- 1:39:15Speaker 7: the stipulation a new champion. New champions will be crowned soon. Fuck.
- 1:39:27Speaker 7: I mean, just how many these women tag titles are
- 1:39:30Speaker 7: just cursed?
- 1:39:32Speaker 14: Right?
- 1:39:32Speaker 7: I mean it's always somebody's getting hurt. I mean, we
- 1:39:35Speaker 7: had this member, Chelsea Green for a while was holding
- 1:39:38Speaker 7: the titles by herself.
- 1:39:40Speaker 9: Yeah, that's why, That's why I hadn't heard that.
- 1:39:42Speaker 10: So that's why I wondered what would become of them,
- 1:39:45Speaker 10: because We've seen both happen, right, We've seen We've seen
- 1:39:49Speaker 10: We've seen teams be stripped because because of an injury.
- 1:39:52Speaker 9: We've also seen one partner just get a new partner.
- 1:39:57Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 1:39:59Speaker 7: Yeah, that made no sense really when they would just
- 1:40:04Speaker 7: grab a new partner.
- 1:40:06Speaker 1: But yeah, yes, no, I mean it made sense if
- 1:40:10Speaker 1: you know it's a trios type situation like New Day
- 1:40:12Speaker 1: or something like that. But or had they kept Bianca,
- 1:40:17Speaker 1: Naomi and Jade together as like a trio throughout this
- 1:40:20Speaker 1: whole year, then you could easily just transition into Bianca
- 1:40:23Speaker 1: and Naomi defending. But since they haven't gone that route
- 1:40:26Speaker 1: then yeah, yeah, but.
- 1:40:28Speaker 10: I mean Chelsea did that a couple of times, and
- 1:40:31Speaker 10: she her partner got injured and she kept the belt
- 1:40:33Speaker 10: and just got a new I think that's how Pipe,
- 1:40:35Speaker 10: her and Piper ended up as one champions.
- 1:40:37Speaker 1: Yeah, because I forgot who she originally wanted with. That
- 1:40:40Speaker 1: was that it worked because yeah, it wasn't a freebird situation, no,
- 1:40:45Speaker 1: but it worked for her in case because it was like,
- 1:40:48Speaker 1: you know, a comedy type situation.
- 1:40:51Speaker 10: I mean, so they could do whatever they wanted to.
- 1:40:53Speaker 10: I just didn't know that they was out there what
- 1:40:55Speaker 10: they had decided to do.
- 1:40:56Speaker 1: Yet Yeah, I mean once pretty much figured they were
- 1:41:01Speaker 1: going to go the strip her of the title route.
- 1:41:05Speaker 1: That's only when it really seems to make any kind
- 1:41:07Speaker 1: of sense. I don't want to see it.
- 1:41:09Speaker 10: I wonder if they're gonna tell us right away who
- 1:41:11Speaker 10: did it, or they're gonna drag that out, because you know,
- 1:41:14Speaker 10: you would think if she's not out, or maybe they'll
- 1:41:17Speaker 10: make it so long that when they revealed it it
- 1:41:20Speaker 10: was Bianca, it'll we all forgotten that. That makes absolutely
- 1:41:23Speaker 10: no funning sense, because like, if she's out three months,
- 1:41:27Speaker 10: that's February. That's build up to many a time, and
- 1:41:30Speaker 10: that they're either not gonna do Bonca and they're gonna
- 1:41:34Speaker 10: do Jade and whoever injured her right.
- 1:41:37Speaker 9: Right or Beyonca is the one who injured her. They're
- 1:41:39Speaker 9: both the same story, but it doesn't make any sense
- 1:41:41Speaker 9: for to them, and.
- 1:41:43Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense unless the injury happened before
- 1:41:48Speaker 1: and nobody found the nobody discovered the body until the
- 1:41:52Speaker 1: match happened, like we get some video segment of them.
- 1:41:55Speaker 7: But still she.
- 1:41:55Speaker 10: Cost herself and it cost her the US or shot
- 1:41:58Speaker 10: at the US title, and now it's cost.
- 1:42:00Speaker 1: Her tag die though, sure, and I'm not advocating that
- 1:42:03Speaker 1: that's the route they go with Bianca doing it, but
- 1:42:07Speaker 1: if this you know, long rumored or long speculated on
- 1:42:10Speaker 1: from the fans Bianca Hill Turn is to happen, this
- 1:42:14Speaker 1: would damn sure'll be the way to pull it off.
- 1:42:16Speaker 10: Like I said, Like I said earlier, I think Bailey
- 1:42:18Speaker 10: and Naomi are the two main suspects, but I guess
- 1:42:23Speaker 10: it could be heels.
- 1:42:25Speaker 1: Yeah. My league issue with those two is Bailey is
- 1:42:31Speaker 1: still in her appreciation face granted the babyface front has
- 1:42:35Speaker 1: kind of started to get a little bit stagnant. Yeah,
- 1:42:38Speaker 1: I think I don't know that I'm ready to see
- 1:42:39Speaker 1: her go back to being a heel though, right And
- 1:42:42Speaker 1: Nail Yeah NAIOI, I just haven't. I have a hard
- 1:42:49Speaker 1: time seeing Naioli as a heel personally. And maybe she's
- 1:42:52Speaker 1: done any great heel work in the past that I'm
- 1:42:54Speaker 1: just unaware of, but right now with her and the
- 1:42:57Speaker 1: whole glow thing, that would be like a d do
- 1:43:00Speaker 1: a complete revamp of her. If she's gonna turn heel
- 1:43:04Speaker 1: and all that, I think they could.
- 1:43:06Speaker 10: Do something similar to like when Bailey cut down her
- 1:43:10Speaker 10: inflatable men.
- 1:43:11Speaker 9: Right. Yeah, the glow thing come up and just go
- 1:43:15Speaker 9: go dark or something.
- 1:43:17Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, definitely, But I don't know.
- 1:43:20Speaker 9: I think she needs some kind of shake up though. Man.
- 1:43:23Speaker 10: I think she's fucking stagnant and I like her a lot,
- 1:43:27Speaker 10: but she hasn't done sucking anything.
- 1:43:28Speaker 9: She is lose a couple of title matches, uh.
- 1:43:33Speaker 1: And I think they're Yeah. I just think there's space
- 1:43:35Speaker 1: for Naiolmi to get a push as a face. I
- 1:43:38Speaker 1: don't think she just just needs a heel turned out
- 1:43:41Speaker 1: of stagnation. I think she just needs she just needs
- 1:43:44Speaker 1: some something compelling and interesting to actually do other than
- 1:43:48Speaker 1: being like Bailey's homegirl or the third one in the
- 1:43:52Speaker 1: Big three. I mean, I think there's still a space
- 1:43:58Speaker 1: for her, Like who knows, Like Creative might not even
- 1:44:02Speaker 1: know right now, who the hell they're gonna. Yeah, they
- 1:44:05Speaker 1: are pecked. They could just be right now still just
- 1:44:08Speaker 1: you know, making this up as they go along. They
- 1:44:10Speaker 1: were like, a, right, well, she injured, we got to
- 1:44:12Speaker 1: write her out, all right, cool, she out, We'll figure
- 1:44:14Speaker 1: it out then. So you know, it could be completely
- 1:44:17Speaker 1: un There could be no person that attacked Jada, I
- 1:44:20Speaker 1: mean Jada Jade at this point in time. They could
- 1:44:23Speaker 1: like literally be who's attacked Jay Kargo. Nobody's attacked her
- 1:44:27Speaker 1: as we yet because they literally have not come up
- 1:44:29Speaker 1: with the storyline yet. And yeah, we'll see how things
- 1:44:32Speaker 1: play up when she's ready to come back, if it's
- 1:44:36Speaker 1: three months or something at later, you know. And so
- 1:44:40Speaker 1: now they're just gonna leave everybody marinating on the was
- 1:44:44Speaker 1: it her?
- 1:44:44Speaker 3: Was it her?
- 1:44:44Speaker 1: Who done it? Who done it? And they may just
- 1:44:46Speaker 1: play that up until you know, they get the okay,
- 1:44:49Speaker 1: like a Jade is good to go, she'll be back
- 1:44:52Speaker 1: in like, you know, a month or three weeks, and like, okay,
- 1:44:55Speaker 1: now we need to start figuring it out. What's the
- 1:44:57Speaker 1: lay of the land, how's the women's division? Look, what
- 1:44:59Speaker 1: do we need to do with so and so and
- 1:45:01Speaker 1: who who? And then they decide on who's going to
- 1:45:04Speaker 1: actually be the person and then go with that storyline.
- 1:45:08Speaker 9: Yeah.
- 1:45:10Speaker 7: Uh, Hardy Boys re signed with TNA Impact Wrestling.
- 1:45:15Speaker 9: I think.
- 1:45:17Speaker 7: I kind of saw that coming.
- 1:45:20Speaker 8: Uh.
- 1:45:21Speaker 7: Also, former Zaia Lee known now as Lie Ying Lie
- 1:45:28Speaker 7: Liing Ying Lee Lee Ying Lee Lie Ingle.
- 1:45:36Speaker 1: I.
- 1:45:37Speaker 7: She used to be Zilee and now she works for
- 1:45:40Speaker 7: at TNA.
- 1:45:42Speaker 3: Uh.
- 1:45:43Speaker 7: You know, it's always good to see TNA picking up
- 1:45:45Speaker 7: some good w w E former wrestlers. So, uh, who
- 1:45:51Speaker 7: do you guys? I think are the betting odds right
- 1:45:56Speaker 7: now the current favorites to win the twenty I've Men's.
- 1:46:01Speaker 1: Royal Rumble, Men's Rumble twenty five. Mm hmm.
- 1:46:13Speaker 9: Roman Range.
- 1:46:18Speaker 7: Not even in the top Roman Rains is in the
- 1:46:21Speaker 7: top five.
- 1:46:23Speaker 1: Wait are you're asking, like, oh, actual odds? Not yeah?
- 1:46:26Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah yeah actual?
- 1:46:28Speaker 1: Right now, who actually has the best who actually right now?
- 1:46:31Speaker 7: Like Roman Rains is fourth on that list.
- 1:46:35Speaker 1: Fourth on that list, I'm gonna say that's the person
- 1:46:40Speaker 1: with the number one odds if like Vegas odds right
- 1:46:43Speaker 1: now is probably I know it ain't Ju sous I
- 1:46:49Speaker 1: wish it was probably not Brandy Orton.
- 1:46:55Speaker 7: No, and Ray's pretty far down. Wow, I have seen
- 1:46:59Speaker 7: pretty far. Randy Hoorn is thirty three to one right now?
- 1:47:05Speaker 9: All right, who you got the John Cena?
- 1:47:09Speaker 7: Damn A did you look it up? Some bitch?
- 1:47:12Speaker 9: I thought, I thought of what a stupid person might think.
- 1:47:16Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, fifteen to four over three seventy five.
- 1:47:23Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 1:47:24Speaker 7: And then next the Rock, Yeah, the well Bronk Rock
- 1:47:28Speaker 7: is three six to one. Punk is number two four
- 1:47:32Speaker 7: to one. We also have Roman reigns I'll just go down,
- 1:47:37Speaker 7: Gunter Seth Rolls, j Damian Priest, Drew McIntyre, Ko, Cody
- 1:47:43Speaker 7: Rhodes twenty five to one, l A night Stone, Cold,
- 1:47:47Speaker 7: Steve Austin at twenty five to one betting odds, Dominic Mystereo,
- 1:47:52Speaker 7: brock Lesnar Logan Paul. Then you got Randy Yorton, Raymon
- 1:47:55Speaker 7: Stereo again, Raymistern, sammy's Ay and Seamus so low So
- 1:48:00Speaker 7: CoA Goldberg at forty over one. Aj Styles bron Breaker,
- 1:48:05Speaker 7: the Miss Triple h who's been retired fifty to one,
- 1:48:09Speaker 7: Apollo Cruise seventy five to one, Bronze Strumman, Ben ballad
- 1:48:15Speaker 7: akem A Carozawa one hundred to one Odds, Alex Shelley
- 1:48:22Speaker 7: and Angel Garza, Angela Dawkins, a Chante, Diodonis Austin, Theory,
- 1:48:28Speaker 7: Berto Bronson Reed, who's currently in this pay per view
- 1:48:33Speaker 7: is hunderd to one odds.
- 1:48:37Speaker 16: Brutus Creed, Carlito Carmen Hayes, Carmelo Hayes, Cedric Alexander, Chad Gable,
- 1:48:44Speaker 16: Chris Saban, Cruise, Delta or Dexter Lewis, dragonly Elton, It's Eric.
- 1:48:51Speaker 17: Yeah, it just keeps going down. Down down Kovie Kingston
- 1:48:54Speaker 17: one hundred to one odds, all the way down to
- 1:48:57Speaker 17: the very bottom. Jake Paul two hundred to one odds,
- 1:49:04Speaker 17: right underneath Uncle Howdy one hundred to one.
- 1:49:10Speaker 1: Wow.
- 1:49:14Speaker 7: Anyway, speaking of list, Speaking of list, Doyle brought this
- 1:49:20Speaker 7: up on the discord. ESPN has unveiled his thirty best
- 1:49:25Speaker 7: Wrestlers under thirty. List of the thirty ranked eight are
- 1:49:29Speaker 7: from WWE, Well twelve represented eight w The top ten
- 1:49:34Speaker 7: include number one, now we'll do ten. We'll do number ten, ten,
- 1:49:40Speaker 7: Chateau Umina, Umino and New Japan for Wrestling, number nine,
- 1:49:48Speaker 7: Daniel Garcia, number eight, Kyle Fletcher number seven, Jack Perry,
- 1:49:54Speaker 7: number six, Kono Suki Takashia. I am so murdering these
- 1:49:59Speaker 7: fucking names on number five, Maria May number four, of
- 1:50:04Speaker 7: Ria Ripley, number three, Tony Storm number two, and jf
- 1:50:10Speaker 7: fucking and number one ranked. The best wrestler under thirty
- 1:50:18Speaker 7: is Dirty Dom himself. Bam, dirty Dum, dirty dumb. And
- 1:50:26Speaker 7: you know what, per the character and I'm all for it.
- 1:50:33Speaker 7: That guy was this adorable child that got fought over
- 1:50:38Speaker 7: in a ladder match and then later you know, won
- 1:50:43Speaker 7: the tag team titles with his father. It was moving,
- 1:50:46Speaker 7: it was great. I mean not many you know, kids
- 1:50:49Speaker 7: can grow through wrestlers and win tag titles with their fathers.
- 1:50:52Speaker 7: And then bam, fucking turned heel, became part of a
- 1:50:57Speaker 7: stable and then turned heel on top of turning heel,
- 1:51:02Speaker 7: you know, and he gets the hot ladies like domb
- 1:51:09Speaker 7: and the stash, the thirty Sanchez dash. I'll tell you what.
- 1:51:15Speaker 1: Come on, can't forget about the mustache?
- 1:51:19Speaker 7: The mustache. Yeah, and now I would like to get
- 1:51:30Speaker 7: to what I've been wanting to talk about this whole episode.
- 1:51:33Speaker 14: I know it's not huge, but next week is the
- 1:51:37Speaker 14: ten year New Day reunion, right, it's exciting because I'm
- 1:51:44Speaker 14: expecting to see Biggie come back, uh, not to wrestle,
- 1:51:48Speaker 14: just to come back.
- 1:51:49Speaker 7: And be at least in the square circle again, and
- 1:51:52Speaker 7: you know, be behind a microphone that's live, and not
- 1:51:56Speaker 7: be at a panel, you know, at a kickoff show.
- 1:51:59Speaker 7: Like I want to see the three of them together.
- 1:52:01Speaker 7: I want to see the three of them come out,
- 1:52:03Speaker 7: and uh, you know what, I don't think that's gonna happen.
- 1:52:07Speaker 7: I think poor big Ee is gonna come back and
- 1:52:10Speaker 7: he's gonna realize that a new Dame just might not
- 1:52:14Speaker 7: be anymore. I'm gonna play this promo from Rawl this week.
- 1:52:22Speaker 7: The New Day lost a tag match? Was it a
- 1:52:25Speaker 7: tag match against?
- 1:52:27Speaker 1: Oh my god?
- 1:52:29Speaker 7: If there was ever a breaking point that would ever
- 1:52:32Speaker 7: get any tag team to break up is Alpha Team
- 1:52:38Speaker 7: Alpha Academy. You know Otis and as I can't even
- 1:52:46Speaker 7: see his name right here, as Azawa pinning you clean Former,
- 1:52:54Speaker 7: I don't even know anymore ten time tag champions, you know,
- 1:52:59Speaker 7: it was rediculous, uh, And it finally reached the boiling point.
- 1:53:03Speaker 7: And I'll be honest, I've wanted it for a very
- 1:53:07Speaker 7: long time. Xavier Woods full heel, Oh God, where like,
- 1:53:13Speaker 7: give this man a microphone, let him go full heel.
- 1:53:17Speaker 3: Uh.
- 1:53:18Speaker 7: And and to make it believable, I mean, we've seen
- 1:53:21Speaker 7: the New Day as heels, right, and it's it's it's
- 1:53:25Speaker 7: hard to think about it, but go back. There was
- 1:53:27Speaker 7: a point when the New Day were heels, and I
- 1:53:33Speaker 7: like them as their heel run. But I especially like
- 1:53:36Speaker 7: Xavier Woods as a heel. And and if the feud
- 1:53:41Speaker 7: is going to start with him and KOFE, and we're
- 1:53:44Speaker 7: gonna get Xavier Woods maybe in the mid card range
- 1:53:47Speaker 7: getting a mid card title eventually, let's let him go
- 1:53:50Speaker 7: on his own. But let me play this promo for you.
- 1:53:56Speaker 2: What are you talking about?
- 1:53:59Speaker 1: What is the what the hell was that out there?
- 1:54:02Speaker 9: You're wrestling like garbage? Are you gonna help me?
- 1:54:04Speaker 7: At some point? I'm wrestling like if I was garbage?
- 1:54:07Speaker 7: What were you you're talking about?
- 1:54:08Speaker 1: Help you?
- 1:54:09Speaker 9: Have? I not done everything but help you?
- 1:54:11Speaker 3: That's all I've ever done. Said.
- 1:54:12Speaker 18: I'm not give you my inter title shot a couple
- 1:54:15Speaker 18: of weeks ago for you. Matter of fact, when you
- 1:54:17Speaker 18: were King of the ring, I was on bend and
- 1:54:18Speaker 18: knee flooding your damn jay, I did that for you.
- 1:54:22Speaker 18: And what did you do with those opportunities? By the way,
- 1:54:24Speaker 18: you fumbled the title shot and you fumble the crown.
- 1:54:31Speaker 4: There's a reason that he and I never lets you
- 1:54:35Speaker 4: call the shots, man, because you're too reckless out there.
- 1:54:38Speaker 7: Man. You take too many unnecessary risks. I'm not necessary
- 1:54:41Speaker 7: risk out there. Shut up and let me talk for
- 1:54:43Speaker 7: a second. Damn unnecessary risk.
- 1:54:45Speaker 19: I remember when you were too terrified to take any
- 1:54:48Speaker 19: kind of risk, And that's exactly why you couldn't get
- 1:54:50Speaker 19: a shot at the heavyweight championship until I came along,
- 1:54:54Speaker 19: and I took those risks for you, Cove.
- 1:54:59Speaker 1: I'm the reason you became champion.
- 1:55:03Speaker 9: You're the reason that I became champion.
- 1:55:05Speaker 4: Now, Man, I was a Hall of Famer when you
- 1:55:08Speaker 4: met me. That's why you asked me to be a
- 1:55:11Speaker 4: part of this group, not the other way around. Don't
- 1:55:12Speaker 4: you ever forget that?
- 1:55:16Speaker 11: And you, of all people, shouldn't be talking about championships
- 1:55:19Speaker 11: and titles because last time I checked, you still haven't
- 1:55:23Speaker 11: won a single championship by yourself, now, haven't Bamo?
- 1:55:30Speaker 4: Do you know why you have never been a world
- 1:55:34Speaker 4: champion like me and like E. It's because you have
- 1:55:40Speaker 4: not been good enough?
- 1:55:44Speaker 1: And that is not my fault. Good enough?
- 1:55:49Speaker 3: Huh?
- 1:55:51Speaker 1: I was good enough to fight for you, wasn't I?
- 1:55:54Speaker 2: I was good enough to take your beatings for you,
- 1:55:56Speaker 2: wasn't I?
- 1:55:57Speaker 6: I was good enough to believe that he was, just like.
- 1:56:00Speaker 9: They believed in you. And what did we do with
- 1:56:02Speaker 9: that relief? We turned it into KOFE mania and we
- 1:56:05Speaker 9: handed it to me.
- 1:56:06Speaker 2: And what did you do with that coke? You pissed
- 1:56:09Speaker 2: it away on a silver platter in six seconds. It's
- 1:56:12Speaker 2: a prop lessener, Damn, I said.
- 1:56:20Speaker 1: It's a god.
- 1:56:21Speaker 19: If you were anybody, if I was what coke if
- 1:56:24Speaker 19: I was somebody else, you finally getting mad?
- 1:56:37Speaker 9: I see you, brother, yeah, see at the anniversary group.
- 1:56:47Speaker 1: That feels like the Clish had triple relationship. Damn yeah,
- 1:56:52Speaker 1: I see you.
- 1:56:53Speaker 10: You hear that and you think that, uh, David, what's
- 1:56:57Speaker 10: just gonna turn here? But I hear that and I think, God,
- 1:57:00Speaker 10: damn it. Would it be so much more fun if
- 1:57:02Speaker 10: Kofe turns to you?
- 1:57:04Speaker 7: Damn Yeah. Yeah, I didn't think of it that way.
- 1:57:08Speaker 7: You're looking at the glass half empty. I'm looking at
- 1:57:10Speaker 7: half fool, you.
- 1:57:11Speaker 1: Know, except for the fact that they've been playing Xavier
- 1:57:15Speaker 1: in the heel role a couple of weeks. Now, I
- 1:57:18Speaker 1: don't know what Kobe would have to Yeah, but I
- 1:57:21Speaker 1: don't know what Kofe would have to do to get
- 1:57:23Speaker 1: the crowd to turn on him, given the way the
- 1:57:27Speaker 1: storyline has been playing out for the last couple of weeks.
- 1:57:32Speaker 1: He's been Kofe's been the one that's been talking with
- 1:57:34Speaker 1: everybody backstage, he's been the one that's been getting along
- 1:57:37Speaker 1: with everybody, and Xavier has been the one that's, you know,
- 1:57:40Speaker 1: been flying off the deep end and doing the irrational
- 1:57:43Speaker 1: things and tagging himself in the match unnecessarily and doing
- 1:57:46Speaker 1: the heel tactics in the ring.
- 1:57:48Speaker 9: If he goes off on that might get the job done.
- 1:57:53Speaker 9: I might get the boo birds out.
- 1:57:56Speaker 1: If bigg he's willing to take some physicality, it would
- 1:57:59Speaker 1: have to take some calities. I don't think he could
- 1:58:01Speaker 1: just yell at he and everybody be like, hey man,
- 1:58:03Speaker 1: watch your mouth. Boom.
- 1:58:05Speaker 7: He just comes back. He announces he's coming. He's like
- 1:58:08Speaker 7: he's been cleared, medically cleared, and the exavier takes him
- 1:58:11Speaker 7: right out again and he's like, oh my fucking neck.
- 1:58:14Speaker 7: The doctor said, I've done. I've done, like I'm just done.
- 1:58:23Speaker 1: My guess is that this.
- 1:58:26Speaker 10: I was just saying, I don't think it's likely, but
- 1:58:28Speaker 10: that's certainly a possibility too, that Biggie announces he's cleared,
- 1:58:31Speaker 10: and uh, they're back to being in the trio again.
- 1:58:36Speaker 9: I don't think going to happen, but that's a possibility.
- 1:58:39Speaker 1: That'd be one hell of them announcement. But obviously I'm
- 1:58:42Speaker 1: pretty certain we're gonna get Biggie in this segment. My
- 1:58:45Speaker 1: guess is that they come out.
- 1:58:46Speaker 9: They've already said they've already filmed stuff.
- 1:58:48Speaker 1: For it, film stuff for the for the reunion segment.
- 1:58:54Speaker 9: Yes, with all three of them, but what do you
- 1:58:56Speaker 9: know that we don't know?
- 1:58:58Speaker 1: Hold up, isn't next week Raw Live?
- 1:59:02Speaker 9: Yeah, but there's there's gonna be you know, they're gonna
- 1:59:06Speaker 9: show a montage.
- 1:59:07Speaker 1: Of Yeah, yeah, I was talking about the like the
- 1:59:09Speaker 1: n Ring segment itself.
- 1:59:12Speaker 9: I think they've already said that he's going to be there, yeah.
- 1:59:16Speaker 1: Yeah, But as far as how it plays out, yeah,
- 1:59:18Speaker 1: he has to be there. There's no way they do
- 1:59:20Speaker 1: a ten year reunion without him there. But my guess is,
- 1:59:23Speaker 1: I don't think all three of them come out together.
- 1:59:27Speaker 1: I think I think they initially come out as just
- 1:59:30Speaker 1: Exavier and Kofi, considering that's kind of what they've put
- 1:59:32Speaker 1: on the graphics and stuff. Is that just them too?
- 1:59:35Speaker 1: But rather than them coming out like the Chip Goal celebrating,
- 1:59:38Speaker 1: YadA YadA, they come out with them be with there
- 1:59:40Speaker 1: being clear tension there and they probably pop off again
- 1:59:44Speaker 1: at each other, and then Bigie's gonna come out probably
- 1:59:47Speaker 1: to a huge ovation, yeah yeah, and he tries to
- 1:59:50Speaker 1: play the mediator between the two of the you know,
- 1:59:54Speaker 1: the peacemaker and get them back on the same page
- 1:59:56Speaker 1: and YadA YadA, and then something happens that finally breaks it.
- 2:00:03Speaker 1: I don't know if Biggie can. I don't. Yeah, I
- 2:00:07Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna announce that he's medically cleared. But
- 2:00:09Speaker 1: I wonder if he's well enough to take like a
- 2:00:12Speaker 1: bump or a hit maybe if it's not maybe not
- 2:00:16Speaker 1: a full back bump, but like take a hit, like
- 2:00:19Speaker 1: you know, Xavier hits him in the back with the
- 2:00:21Speaker 1: mic and he falls to the ground. I wonder if
- 2:00:23Speaker 1: he could do that, because that would be the thing
- 2:00:25Speaker 1: to definitely certified heel for whoever it attacks him, and
- 2:00:30Speaker 1: then that would definitely be you know, the final nail
- 2:00:33Speaker 1: of the coffin that they're they're broken up, there are
- 2:00:35Speaker 1: no more well.
- 2:00:36Speaker 10: Whether they could use them as bait too, didn't when
- 2:00:40Speaker 10: Edge was still out, didn't somebody put him in a
- 2:00:43Speaker 10: in a put his neck in a chair and threaten
- 2:00:46Speaker 10: to do something to him.
- 2:00:47Speaker 7: Yeah, seth closer, I'm gonna I'm gonna kill him. It's
- 2:00:52Speaker 7: like him. Yeah, it was like John seems like screw it,
- 2:00:56Speaker 7: I'm gonna kill him anyway. And then he went to
- 2:00:58Speaker 7: go stomp the chair in his neck. Oh God's sweet,
- 2:01:02Speaker 7: that's what I mean. Like they're gonna play on that.
- 2:01:04Speaker 7: They're gonna play on Big E's injury, like definitely, like
- 2:01:08Speaker 7: whether it's he announces that he's medically cleared and Xavier
- 2:01:12Speaker 7: immediately takes him out, like that would piss so many
- 2:01:15Speaker 7: people off because like, oh my god, he's back, he's back,
- 2:01:18Speaker 7: Oh my god, he is never wrestling again, he is
- 2:01:23Speaker 7: never wrestling again, or yeah, or it's like he's still injured,
- 2:01:28Speaker 7: you know, very much like the Edge segment how seth
- 2:01:31Speaker 7: Ron's got over. It's like you tacked a man who
- 2:01:33Speaker 7: you know can't defend himself because he's he medically just can't.
- 2:01:37Speaker 7: It's just I don't know either way. Biggie's gonna he
- 2:01:43Speaker 7: gonna he ain't gonna have fun.
- 2:01:44Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's still dependent on him having some sort
- 2:01:47Speaker 1: of level of medical clearance, because I mean, even if
- 2:01:51Speaker 1: even if he's not clear to compete or wrestle or something,
- 2:01:56Speaker 1: he still has to be medically clear to take a
- 2:01:58Speaker 1: certain level of physicality, which so far is you know,
- 2:02:05Speaker 1: still not a thing to have any physicality whatsoever. Now,
- 2:02:11Speaker 1: maybe there's something that ww's being keeping very close to
- 2:02:14Speaker 1: the chest and keeping very well guarded. That's always a possibility.
- 2:02:18Speaker 1: They seem to be getting a little bit better at
- 2:02:22Speaker 1: keeping certain secrets in house at times when they really
- 2:02:24Speaker 1: want to. So yeah, we can't rule it out, but
- 2:02:29Speaker 1: I would put the odds at less than fifty.
- 2:02:34Speaker 9: Yes, I think that's fair.
- 2:02:38Speaker 1: Yeah. The real question I would say is, when we
- 2:02:48Speaker 1: do finally get the inevitable Kofie versus Xavier match, do
- 2:02:52Speaker 1: they respect that shit enough to put it on a
- 2:02:54Speaker 1: pl E or is it just a random fucking raw match.
- 2:03:00Speaker 7: No, No, they can't be a fucking role. That's gotta
- 2:03:03Speaker 7: be a p l E match.
- 2:03:05Speaker 1: It's gotta be. It should be, it deserves to be.
- 2:03:09Speaker 9: I mean, I don't know if you can put it
- 2:03:10Speaker 9: off that long.
- 2:03:13Speaker 7: What other teams have we seen recently? We saw the
- 2:03:15Speaker 7: US break up and they had I feel like, if
- 2:03:19Speaker 7: the USSOS got their match singles match, we're gonna get
- 2:03:23Speaker 7: a New Day's singles.
- 2:03:25Speaker 1: Match, right, Yeah, the match is going to happen. Yeah.
- 2:03:29Speaker 7: I mean, like I'm talking like because.
- 2:03:33Speaker 1: Are you know the USOS and they were you know Bloodline,
- 2:03:37Speaker 1: So no, they've been in the main events scene for
- 2:03:40Speaker 1: or closer to the main events scene for the longest,
- 2:03:42Speaker 1: so that much match mhm.
- 2:03:48Speaker 9: I was just saying we never got otis gable at all,
- 2:03:51Speaker 9: right or not?
- 2:03:53Speaker 7: Damn Yeah, talk about that.
- 2:03:56Speaker 1: Has always been Jimmy versus has always been a dream
- 2:03:58Speaker 1: match anyway, so that you know, had pl written all
- 2:04:01Speaker 1: over it from the jump, even if it turned out
- 2:04:03Speaker 1: to be probably one of the worst or most disappointing matches, talking.
- 2:04:07Speaker 10: About one of the greatest Saturdy teams of all time
- 2:04:10Speaker 10: as well as Theory and Race and Waller broke up.
- 2:04:16Speaker 1: It out of match, you know, Yeah, Xavier versus Kofi. Really,
- 2:04:21Speaker 1: this backstage interaction that they had this past Monday is
- 2:04:23Speaker 1: probably the most interesting thing that's happened so far in
- 2:04:27Speaker 1: this whole downward spiral that they've been on. They've been
- 2:04:30Speaker 1: telling the story for a while going while, right, but
- 2:04:33Speaker 1: it hasn't really picked up any real momentum or anything
- 2:04:35Speaker 1: that's really gotten a rise out of the audience or
- 2:04:38Speaker 1: gotten him invested until this past Monday. Now it's a
- 2:04:43Speaker 1: matter of can they build on that momentum, can they
- 2:04:46Speaker 1: take that further or are they just gonna squander the
- 2:04:49Speaker 1: investment that people now have based on that promo and
- 2:04:53Speaker 1: are we just gonna get some mediocre, middling thing that
- 2:04:58Speaker 1: doesn't you know, capitalize on its potential.
- 2:05:05Speaker 7: Yeah, question, Yeah, I mean, I'm excited to see how
- 2:05:09Speaker 7: this turns out. I really am. It's been a long build.
- 2:05:14Speaker 7: It's something I never thought it would would happen to
- 2:05:17Speaker 7: be honest. Uh yeah, Uh, that's really all I got
- 2:05:25Speaker 7: for news. I don't know if you guys want to
- 2:05:28Speaker 7: chit chat by anything else, anything else that's bothering you
- 2:05:30Speaker 7: about the wrestling world.
- 2:05:34Speaker 9: Bothering me?
- 2:05:34Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know, Like there's ah, I know Red
- 2:05:39Speaker 7: one isn't Deers right now. I heard it's not doing
- 2:05:40Speaker 7: so hot. There's not bombing.
- 2:05:44Speaker 1: I thought, yeah, oh yeah, it's bombing terribly and by
- 2:05:48Speaker 1: But at the same time, My Wana two just came
- 2:05:50Speaker 1: out I think literally premiered in theaters tonight.
- 2:05:54Speaker 10: So yeah, you know, every rock isn't exactly on a
- 2:05:57Speaker 10: hot streak regardless.
- 2:05:59Speaker 1: You know he's not on the hot streak. But you know,
- 2:06:02Speaker 1: if ma Wana Too does anything close to what ma
- 2:06:04Speaker 1: Wana Wan does, everybody will forget all about them.
- 2:06:07Speaker 20: Damn does Yes, right around the corner happen, Yeah, and
- 2:06:15Speaker 20: you got the live action right around the corner.
- 2:06:17Speaker 1: So don't take much of Hollywood to get back on
- 2:06:23Speaker 1: top after you fall a little bit. No, one great
- 2:06:28Speaker 1: movie can wipe out a whole bunch of crappy ones.
- 2:06:31Speaker 9: Yeah that's fucking true.
- 2:06:33Speaker 7: Watch that that taste of black adam out of our mouths.
- 2:06:37Speaker 7: Still I still saw.
- 2:06:43Speaker 9: Good for you.
- 2:06:44Speaker 7: Just look me. I haven't seen more yet, and I
- 2:06:47Speaker 7: haven't seen Madam's Web, and I'm like trying to keep.
- 2:06:50Speaker 9: It that way.
- 2:06:51Speaker 1: Yeah, I refused to waste time on that movie, you know, just.
- 2:06:55Speaker 7: Like there's there's a bunch of new live action Disney movies.
- 2:06:59Speaker 7: I'm like, no, I'm not gonna go see it. I
- 2:07:02Speaker 7: will go see How to Train Your Dragon. I will
- 2:07:04Speaker 7: go see Lelan Stitch, but I will not go see
- 2:07:06Speaker 7: snow White. So just pick and choose which ones I
- 2:07:11Speaker 7: think the garbage and which ones I don't think are
- 2:07:15Speaker 7: pretty much.
- 2:07:15Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, I think the only live action Disney
- 2:07:18Speaker 1: movie I have seen was The Jungle Book.
- 2:07:21Speaker 7: I love the Lion the Lion Kings, I love it,
- 2:07:25Speaker 7: And I think Aladdin was Okay, I.
- 2:07:29Speaker 1: Haven't seen any of them. I'm with you. I am
- 2:07:32Speaker 1: here for the Lelo and Stitch.
- 2:07:34Speaker 7: Yeah, cool shit, all right, you guys, Trey, you got
- 2:07:41Speaker 7: anything you wanna plug?
- 2:07:44Speaker 1: Nothing at the moment, Like I said, always follow us
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- 2:07:54Speaker 7: Doyle.
- 2:07:55Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm just always in the Discord, and I like
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- 2:08:01Speaker 9: And uh, rest in peace to Rownie bullets. Oh there
- 2:08:05Speaker 9: you go.
- 2:08:06Speaker 7: All right, Well, I'm in the Discord is semiitry chicken,
- 2:08:09Speaker 7: and you can also find me on Twitter and our
- 2:08:11Speaker 7: Twitter page. Uh, and I am on Facebook now, so
- 2:08:16Speaker 7: I'm adding more people on Facebook because now I'm talking
- 2:08:20Speaker 7: about wrestling and promoting our show on Facebook as well. Ah,
- 2:08:25Speaker 7: but that said, that's in the show with.
- 2:08:30Speaker 3: I think that he's.
- 2:08:31Speaker 1: Ready to blow. Oh there it is? What what.
- 2:08:39Speaker 10: In a world?
- 2:08:42Speaker 9: Oh my god? What?
- 2:08:48Speaker 8: What in the world is this?
- 2:08:55Speaker 6: You are the world dumbest sign up.
- 2:09:01Speaker 21: Fact that day in and day out, for almost six years,
- 2:09:05Speaker 21: I improved everybody in the world that I am the
- 2:09:08Speaker 21: best on this microphone in that break and given a commentary,
- 2:09:13Speaker 21: nobody can touch me.
- 2:09:14Speaker 3: You are not clean it wad.
- 2:09:19Speaker 2: It's because the street perfect and we watched the sum your.
- 2:09:28Speaker 21: Talk about your songs, talk about John three sixteen A
- 2:09:33Speaker 21: step three sixteen says I just whipped your ass.
- 2:09:38Speaker 3: Well, let me tell you fucking brother far Oh my.
- 2:09:48Speaker 1: New day, Queen prays to the top more year, my
- 2:09:54Speaker 1: true madness.
- 2:09:56Speaker 3: Welcome to the Kevin Owen Show.
- 2:10:00Speaker 6: Lately, he just hasn't been Harry Hoosi.
- 2:10:06Speaker 3: Because I'm the best.
- 2:10:09Speaker 9: And I'm.
- 2:10:14Speaker 3: Oh so.
- 2:10:18Speaker 6: Those rotten bastes, Bye bye.
- 2:10:26Speaker 14: It's