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07/15/2025 Ask the Expert with Foster Foundation Repair · WCHS Network Podcasts

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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a little bit more upbeat, a little bit
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  Speaker 4: You're listening to ask the Expert. I'm del Cooper, Thanks
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not bad at all.
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  Speaker 4: You are listening to a programming where Foster Construction is
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  Speaker 4: in studio with us this morning, and give.
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  Speaker 3: Us a call.
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  Speaker 4: Brett Hodgins is our guest here this morning, owner, and
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  Speaker 4: we're gonna be talking about all kinds of things. You
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  Speaker 4: can control the conversation to point it to whatever direction
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  Speaker 4: you need to when it comes to foundations or basements,
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  Speaker 4: anything along those lines that Foster Foundation Repair can.
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  Speaker 3: Help you with.
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  Speaker 4: However, we're gonna talk a little bit. We're gonna kind
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  Speaker 4: of have a topic of the morning. We're going to
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  Speaker 4: talk about cross spaces in the environment of the cross
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  Speaker 4: space just a little bit. But before we get to
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  Speaker 4: the business at hand, how you doing today? Uh, Brett,
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  Speaker 4: don't all right?
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  Speaker 5: Doing very well. The rain is certainly creating challenges for
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  Speaker 5: us right now. And the reason for this topic is
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  Speaker 5: or that I thought of this topic is we've kind
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  Speaker 5: of pushed our guys into all our crawl space work
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  Speaker 5: right now to kind of get out of the mud
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  Speaker 5: for a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: That makes sense, That makes a lot of sense, and
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  Speaker 4: that's an important aspect. Not only it's your business to
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  Speaker 4: what we have, but also to what we have that
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  Speaker 4: goes around here in West Virginia. Let's talk about the
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  Speaker 4: crawl spaces a little bit because there's really a lot
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  Speaker 4: of I guess a lack of better terms, there's a
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  Speaker 4: lot of science that goes into what crass space does
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  Speaker 4: to your home as far as the dynamics of air
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  Speaker 4: flowing things along those lines.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, the building science community is pushing for changes in
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  Speaker 5: the way crawl spaces are set up to act. Over
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  Speaker 5: the last two centuries, al most every crawl space was
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  Speaker 5: always designed to be a vented crawl space, where you
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  Speaker 5: would have crawl space events around the perimeter and you
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  Speaker 5: would allow the atmospheric air to enter and exit the
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  Speaker 5: building as the wind blew. But now the building science
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  Speaker 5: communities trying to push for unvented crawl spaces that are
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  Speaker 5: brought into the indoor air environment indoor and arm in
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  Speaker 5: of the air to where they're actually conditioned, which is
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  Speaker 5: which is great for new construction. That's it. We can
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  Speaker 5: we can certainly retrofit them, and we do retrofit crawl
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  Speaker 5: spaces to turn them into unvented crawl spaces, but typically
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  Speaker 5: we're doing we're not going to bring those into the
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  Speaker 5: indoor air environment as because there's typically been a moisture
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  Speaker 5: related issue is why somebody is making that investment to
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  Speaker 5: make that change. So we don't want to bring any
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  Speaker 5: more growth that may have grown in the crawl space
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  Speaker 5: into the home the heating coint system. So but yeah,
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  Speaker 5: building science is definitely pushing new construction this direction. It's
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  Speaker 5: in the latest ver latest probably three iterations of the
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  Speaker 5: building code. It was included into that as as a
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  Speaker 5: as the preferred method. State of West Virginia has other
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  Speaker 5: options including that in the building code.
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  Speaker 4: But so for folks that aren't that that's not in there,
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  Speaker 4: that aren't building a new home and they're in a
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  Speaker 4: pre existing home and they're running into some conditions when
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  Speaker 4: it comes to their cross whether it's there's too much
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  Speaker 4: moisture in it, there's some kind of problem along those lines.
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  Speaker 3: And is.
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  Speaker 4: Cross space one of those things from the ground up,
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  Speaker 4: Like say, for example, somebody is looking to do home
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  Speaker 4: improvements to their house, so they're going to do a
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  Speaker 4: little bit of work, maybe add an addition or do
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  Speaker 4: a remodel of the kitchen or something along those lines,
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  Speaker 4: but they have this problem with the cross space. It
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  Speaker 4: gets very moist in the home or humid or whatever
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  Speaker 4: the problem might be with it. Is it a top
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  Speaker 4: up situation where you should probably address those issues that
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  Speaker 4: you have with like the moisture, your cross space and
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  Speaker 4: things like that before you invest money in doing some
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  Speaker 4: of the other items that are more cosmetic.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say for two reasons. One, if you're
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  Speaker 5: doing an addition, as you suggested, you're building another structure
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  Speaker 5: adjacent to what is it currently there, which means you're
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  Speaker 5: probably you're blocking off whatever events might be there. You're
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  Speaker 5: also creating an additional kind of different spaces where air is
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  Speaker 5: not going to move efficiently from one space to the other.
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  Speaker 5: And to your other point, Yes, if you're going to
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  Speaker 5: do any type of remodeling, you definitely want to manage water,
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  Speaker 5: get your water vapor situation addressed before you go put
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  Speaker 5: in new hardwoods or new flooring, because over time, if
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  Speaker 5: you don't address that and then you go and you
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  Speaker 5: install that new material, and then down the road you
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  Speaker 5: reduce the moisture levels in the home, that's going to
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  Speaker 5: cause changes within your new finishes that were just installed.
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  Speaker 5: So ideally those things are addressed. The moisture is addressed first,
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  Speaker 5: and then you let all your new building materials acclimate
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  Speaker 5: to the conditions as it's been corrected.
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  Speaker 3: That makes a lot of sense.
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  Speaker 2: I know that.
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  Speaker 4: For example, in my home where it was built, I
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  Speaker 4: did the mess of remodeling on it during the wintertime,
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  Speaker 4: and so I think from November till late December there
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  Speaker 4: was just a ton of work that was done on
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  Speaker 4: my home. And it was fine, everything was all right.
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  Speaker 4: But I noticed that when the summertime came back around,
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  Speaker 4: like pocket doors, different things like that, there were some
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  Speaker 4: things that are a little bit of skew because the
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  Speaker 4: house is slightly different can figuration in the summer than
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  Speaker 4: it is in the winter, and it caused some issues
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  Speaker 4: with that stuff.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, your home is a leaving breathing thing. It's going
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  Speaker 5: to definitely change seasonally. That is very true.
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  Speaker 4: And so when we're talking about cross spaces in general,
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  Speaker 4: Then what are some of the things that that a
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  Speaker 4: homeowner out there might identify as symptoms to know that
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  Speaker 4: they might have some problems with their cross space.
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  Speaker 5: So backing up just a hair, the two primary conditions
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  Speaker 5: that are going to create poor cross space environments are
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  Speaker 5: liquid water and water vapor, and those those have to
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  Speaker 5: be handled very differently than one another. A system that
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  Speaker 5: is designed to handle liquid water does not fix a
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  Speaker 5: water necessarily does not fix a water vapor problem, and
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  Speaker 5: the same is.
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  Speaker 3: True for water vapor.
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  Speaker 5: But things to look for to see, if you know,
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  Speaker 5: just poking your head in a cross space hatch to
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  Speaker 5: see if you have you might see evidence of a
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  Speaker 5: moisture condition, whether it be liquid water or water vapor. Obviously,
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  Speaker 5: liquid water is pretty simple. You see staining water on
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  Speaker 5: the floor, you know you got a liquid water problem.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 5: Water vapor issues are a little you know for a
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  Speaker 5: little more difficult to identify. But things to look for
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  Speaker 5: would be stringy insulation, floor insulation, the pink insulation, fiberglass
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  Speaker 5: insulation that's kind of looks like it's becoming stringy and
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  Speaker 5: hanging down. That's evidence of water that there's moisture condensing
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  Speaker 5: in the insulation, and the insulation is becoming heavy. Stains
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  Speaker 5: on the on the on the wood joists, mold or mildew.
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  Speaker 5: Everybody calls the different things, and they're all they are
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  Speaker 5: a little bit different. But mold, mildew, my chrobial growth,
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  Speaker 5: and fungal growth are things to look for. Musty odors
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  Speaker 5: are definitely something that a lot of people notice. And
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  Speaker 5: I'm not nearly as sensitive to odors as others. My
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  Speaker 5: father can't smell. I was with a gentleman last who
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  Speaker 5: said he couldn't smell, so a lot of people that's
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  Speaker 5: they're very sensitive odor. So if they're noticing those and
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  Speaker 5: they have a crawl space, there's a very good chance
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  Speaker 5: that's where it's originating. And the reason for that is
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  Speaker 5: approximately fifty percent, and it varies very greatly from house
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  Speaker 5: to house, but approximately fifty percent of the air in
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  Speaker 5: the home has originated in the crawl space, and that's
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  Speaker 5: the result of what it's called stack effects. So it's
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  Speaker 5: just like a chimney. Hot air is going to rise up,
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  Speaker 5: so as air in the crawl space warms, it rises
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  Speaker 5: to the under side of the floor and then eventually
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  Speaker 5: it finds a gapper or crevice to make it its
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  Speaker 5: way in the house, or more often than not, that
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  Speaker 5: is where the original HVAC system was installed is in
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  Speaker 5: a crawl space, and your return duct system is under
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  Speaker 5: negative pressure, so any leaks in that system will actually
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  Speaker 5: pull air from the crawl space and then introduce that
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  Speaker 5: into the indoor environment.
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  Speaker 4: Is there any special consideration? We talk about the styles
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  Speaker 4: of homes that over in Kannas City because I live
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  Speaker 4: over there all the time, and I'm thinking that I
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  Speaker 4: have like a combination. So the front part of my
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  Speaker 4: house is a full basement, and then the back part
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  Speaker 4: of my house, which was an extension or an addition
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  Speaker 4: well before I built it is on a crawl space
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  Speaker 4: and it's on dirt floor. In the back part of
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  Speaker 4: the house, it's a partially finished basement on the front
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  Speaker 4: part of the house.
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  Speaker 3: Do you just treat those two things separately.
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  Speaker 4: You have a basement and you have a crawl spacing
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  Speaker 4: and you deal with it just like that, or is
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  Speaker 4: there some special consideration when you have that kind of configuration.
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  Speaker 5: Most time they're probably going to be treated separately. I
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  Speaker 5: can think of a situation we have coming up where
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  Speaker 5: we are going to encapsulate a crawl space, and it's
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  Speaker 5: a very small crawl space but currently has a door
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  Speaker 5: between it has interior access to the basement. So we're
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  Speaker 5: going encapsulated and we're just going to leave the door open.
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  Speaker 5: It's small enough to where I feel comfortable there will
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  Speaker 5: be enough airror movement in there to where there won't
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  Speaker 5: be an accumulation of any water vapor, and it will
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  Speaker 5: just the heating and coin system will handle that area.
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  Speaker 5: So yeah, normally I I would say they're going to
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  Speaker 5: be treated separately. But again, on a situation like that,
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  Speaker 5: you've got an addition. That crawl space built up to
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  Speaker 5: a house now only has three sides that can be
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  Speaker 5: vented a lot of times there's a deck on one
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  Speaker 5: of those sides now, so now you have possibly only
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  Speaker 5: two sides of the of the new addition that have
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  Speaker 5: the potential for decent ventilation. Because ventilation works through cross ventilation.
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  Speaker 5: Air is blowing through a crawl space from one vent
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  Speaker 5: to another and it creates circular air motions in the
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  Speaker 5: crawl space, and that's the way ventilation is supposed to work.
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  Speaker 5: So if you have limited air movement, that limits your ventilation.
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  Speaker 4: And I could see how you could have a home,
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  Speaker 4: especially an older home, and if you have some of
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  Speaker 4: these problems getting moisture into the house and things like that,
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  Speaker 4: this is a major issue that you need to potentially
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  Speaker 4: address because it can cause as we mentioned on here,
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  Speaker 4: it could cause structural damage eventually. It could also lead
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  Speaker 4: to different types of molds and stuff like that, entry
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  Speaker 4: waste or rodents and pests and stuff along those lines.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it's you let one of these problems go
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  Speaker 4: unchecked for a long enough time and it could really
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  Speaker 4: cause some problems to your house.
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  Speaker 5: Very very true. We're currently working on a project here
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  Speaker 5: in Charleston that it is one of the more severe situations,
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  Speaker 5: and it is a situation. It's a four unit townhouse
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  Speaker 5: where essentially we're replacing the entire floor system and the
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  Speaker 5: wood was damaged the floor joist two y ten floor
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  Speaker 5: joists or damage to the point where you could you
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  Speaker 5: bump your back on them and materials falling off onto
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  Speaker 5: the ground. So and this was the result this property.
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  Speaker 5: Townhouses are unfortunately very susceptible to this because especially interior
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  Speaker 5: town interior units, not end units, because those you only
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  Speaker 5: have front and back that can be vented. And again
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  Speaker 5: that's that just creates a very poor situation for ventilation.
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  Speaker 5: But yeah, you can end up with a very severe
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  Speaker 5: deterioration in this property. We're replacing the entire main beam,
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  Speaker 5: it's probably sixty feet long, seventy five percent of the
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  Speaker 5: floor joists, and the entire sial plate and rim board
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  Speaker 5: across the rear of the building. So it's it's a
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  Speaker 5: very and this is all a result of both liquid
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  Speaker 5: water and water vapor. This building was suffering. So we
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  Speaker 5: actually started this project back in the in the winter
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  Speaker 5: and when we were we were there, there was water
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  Speaker 5: drop its actually there was ice around the perimeter the
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  Speaker 5: outside where water had condensed, uh and then frozen because
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  Speaker 5: it was during the cold season. And then we had
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  Speaker 5: a big delay in this project because there there was
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  Speaker 5: a change order and other things that the project expanded.
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  Speaker 5: But so that's actually what we're working one of the
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  Speaker 5: projects we're working on now.
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  Speaker 4: And a domino effect can really make some of these
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  Speaker 4: things pretty complicated sometimes because you're you're dealing with systems
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  Speaker 4: like inside of a house and things like that a
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  Speaker 4: lot of these things don't exist in isolation. You change
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  Speaker 4: one thing and it has an effect when other things
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  Speaker 4: are out the home.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it does. Insulation around the perimeters a very
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  Speaker 5: important thing for for for one of these crawl spaces.
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  Speaker 4: And we had a question that came in on the
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  Speaker 4: text line for the three zero four nine four one.
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  Speaker 4: My basement does smell musty, but only after heavy storms.
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  Speaker 4: Is at a waterproofing issue?
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  Speaker 5: I mean it sounds like you're probably getting some water
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  Speaker 5: infiltration during storms. I mean that's there's a lot of
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  Speaker 5: things that would contribute to that, but yes, it sounds
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  Speaker 5: like there is some water infiltration. It be interested to,
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  Speaker 5: of course see the situation and know whether you're getting
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  Speaker 5: water that flows across the ground, and there's a lot
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  Speaker 5: of different things that contribute to it. But yeah, if
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  Speaker 5: you're getting a musty odor, there is something that is
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  Speaker 5: causing that musty odor.
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  Speaker 4: If you need to have these things looked at, or
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  Speaker 4: you need a contact Foster Construction. If you don't want
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  Speaker 4: to call the show this morning, you send in a
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  Speaker 4: tax but you want to talk to Brton his staff afterwards,
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  Speaker 4: number you can call, and you can get through on
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  Speaker 4: that you want to make sure that you take care
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  Speaker 4: of these types of situations if you're called in to
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  Speaker 4: help with with a cross space other to dry it
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  Speaker 4: out there there's is encapsulation the gold standard now is
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  Speaker 4: at the only thing you do or there are other
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  Speaker 4: options when it comes to cross spaces that where if
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  Speaker 4: encapsulation is are situations where maybe that's not the best idea.
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  Speaker 5: So an encapsulation is very good at handling the water vapor. Oftentimes,
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  Speaker 5: when you have a liquid water issue, the standing water
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  Speaker 5: on the floor, you have to address that as that's
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  Speaker 5: that's step number one you can encapsulate, because what encapsulation
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  Speaker 5: includes is putting insulation on the walls, which I can
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  Speaker 5: go into more detail later, but you have to start
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  Speaker 5: with the liquid water, which is oftentimes gutters, down spouts,
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  Speaker 5: surface drainage. That's normally we have a lot of poor
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  Speaker 5: drainage issues in Charleston were living the hilly climbing and
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  Speaker 5: that's that just is what it is. But oftentimes the
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  Speaker 5: original construction of a cross space did not include any
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  Speaker 5: type of damp proofing, waterproofing, or foundation drainage system, which
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  Speaker 5: are critical components to a dry environment. The the way
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  Speaker 5: contractors basically because it's not finished living space. The assumption
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  Speaker 5: is you don't have to have these systems. But not
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  Speaker 5: only are they critical for the indoor cross space environment,
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  Speaker 5: that they're critical for long term serviceability of the foundation from
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  Speaker 5: a foundation movement standpoint. So it's pretty it's pretty rare
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  Speaker 5: that one of these systems. A proper foundation drainage system
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  Speaker 5: is installed from day one, and if if a drain
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  Speaker 5: is installed, they're not They're typically not done very well,
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  Speaker 5: and they have a fairly short life expectancy.
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  Speaker 4: And these are all things that might take a little
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  Speaker 4: bit as a homeowner, maybe the problem is obvious, then
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  Speaker 4: you can make a phone call and say, hey, I
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  Speaker 4: have this issue.
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  Speaker 3: I need to have it take have it looked at.
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  Speaker 4: But a lot of these issues, you notice the symptoms
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  Speaker 4: from them, you know what the result is, but you
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  Speaker 4: don't know exactly how it's happening, or what's happening, or
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  Speaker 4: where the ultimate cause of it's And that's where you
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  Speaker 4: can really come in and offer a lot of assistance,
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  Speaker 4: not only with the solving of the problem, but with
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  Speaker 4: your background and engineering and everything else. It helps you
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  Speaker 4: take a look at the problem and find each of
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  Speaker 4: the steps in turn, that leads to the ultimate issue
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  Speaker 4: that the homeowners having problems with.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, and kind of back to your previous question about
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  Speaker 5: the crawl space encapsul encapsulation being the gold standard. Yes,
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  Speaker 5: it absolutely is, but you've got to address that water,
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  Speaker 5: that liquid water first, and then the encapsulation system is
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: designed to seal all the earth and outside air to
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: the extent possible off and that limits the amount of
• 16:41
  Speaker 5: water humidity or water vapor that is migrating into the
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: crawl space. And then it is controlled with a dehumidifier
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: in most cases on a retroflect fit application.
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  Speaker 4: I'll just use myself as an example for this, because
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: as we've talked about the crawl space encapsulation, I'm convinced
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: that I would benefit from it. My older home, we
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: have a moisture barrier problem with some kind I have
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: issues with humidity throughout my house. The problem that I
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: have with where my cross space is is there's not
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: any real access to it. The only way to really
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: get to it is tear up my kitchen floor. There's
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: a tiny window that used to be the basement to
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: the window that leads to the cross space that if
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: you absolutely had to get in there for something you could,
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: but there's no way to do work. You know, you
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: have to take out the floor enable to be able
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: to do that. Have you ran into situations like that before?
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: Is that something that's relatively common.
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: Yes, Yes, there's many times that the only fixes is
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: from above. Unfortunately. I mean we can you can do
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: sometimes you can get some plastics on a tight area
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: like that that will help. But yes, there are there
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: have been times where the floor comes up. One of
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: one of the first projects that we performed after purchasing
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: Foster was to remove a floor and replace the old
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: log cabin and we replace the all the rotten lumber
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: below and encapsulated the crass space.
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: So I know that's something that I got to get
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: on my list. I don't have any rotting anything. I
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: don't think there have any issue with that, but I
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: know that I need to get that issue taken care of.
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: That's in my cross space and that's probably the best
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: way that I could get about it.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Unfortunately, if you've got a kitchen above it, I mean
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: your two options are to wait until the kitchen needs
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: to be remodeled and handle it then, or create a
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: larger access point. And if it's shallow, then excavate soil
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: to create enough room to work. If it's a shallow
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: cross space.
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a pain.
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: That's the reason I've really been kind of up against
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: it when it comes to that, because I know if
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: it was an easy, easier access, I would have already
• 18:29
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• 18:31
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• 18:33
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• 18:36
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  Speaker 4: of foundation or cross spased repairs covered by homeowners insurance?
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  Speaker 5: I would say probably less it is covered than more.
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  Speaker 5: I would maybe if you have flood insurance and it
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  Speaker 5: was a flood damage, but more more often than I've
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  Speaker 5: never been paid to fix a foundation by insurance company.
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  Speaker 5: I'm sure there are situations where they are covered. Obviously,
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  Speaker 5: a car runs into a foundation, it's going to be covered.
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  Speaker 5: But typically a insurance policy does not cover maintenance construction,
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  Speaker 5: which like a foundation drain. If you install a foundation drain,
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: it's proper installed, but it's sixty years old, that's a
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: maintenance item. Unfortunately, it's it's lived its life, so a
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: lot of the other you know, I've seen plenty of
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: engineer reports that go out and evaluate for an insurance claim,
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: and it's typically boils down to maintenance, improper construction, or
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: a lot of those policies are in a current or
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: on a current space, whether it was like a it
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: occurred rapidly or over a twenty year period. So more
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: often than not, a foundation repair is not covered under insurance.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, with insurance like that, it's very often. If then
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: then this type situation like a tree falls and does something,
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  Speaker 4: then you know that's something that you're interested in cover
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  Speaker 4: something that erodes over time, sort of like the difference
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: between car insurance between service, between service and body work.
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: You know, like if if your starter goes bad after
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: twenty years, that's just that's just maintenance. You're not going
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: to be able to make an insurance claim on that.
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: I wish it was.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: That would be a lot easier help the industry.
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  Speaker 2: Yea.
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  Speaker 4: And certainly when I was a kid, I thought all
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: that stuff was covered. Is like, what do you mean
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: my my my engineer's real built, rebuilt and it's not
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: covered by insurance.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: Not not not the insurance's responsibility as far as that
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: stuff goes, that's for sure. We did have What was
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: the other question that we had on here? I thought
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: or did I already get to it? Unless the very
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: I got to that was the that was the insurance question.
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: I suppose Yeah, so when oh, I know, I wanted
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: to get to the second part of your the information
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: you gave me, because there's a there's many things that
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: could lead to the degradation of a cross space. Plumbing
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: leaks could be one of the problems that you have.
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: So that's something oftentimes in this case, would you have
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: to work in concert if it was a difficult enough situation,
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: work with a plumber in those situations.
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we're not a plumbing contractor. I mean, there are
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: little things that we have done over the years, but generally,
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: if it's a sewer leak, we're not touching it. We're
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: going to get a plumber in there to fix that.
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: Another very common one is a dry event, disconnected dryer event,
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: or just a dry event that discharges into a crawl space.
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: A unique situation that that was that that I've occurred
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: at the residence I own, and this was I purchased
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: an existing building, but and we actually encapsulated my crawl space.
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: But an interesting one that we had to address there
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: is there's a small section of the floor of my
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: dining room that extends into the garage but is above
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: the garage floor. So there's there's an air gap between there,
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: and the previous owners left the garage door open a lot,
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: and so there was constantly hot, humid air from outside
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: entering the crawl space through that air gap. And we
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: had some whole growth in the crawl space that we
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: had to deal with, But the heaviest, most dense growth
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: was in that area which is up against a garage
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: where there's heat and humidity entering near a porch there.
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: It was kind of back in this corner where there's
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: very very little ventilation. So there's a lot of different
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: things that can contribute to the to the water vapor.
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: But that that's a unique situation that we had to address.
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: It was just it was simple. I just sealed off
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: the sealed off that area from the side of the
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  Speaker 5: garage with a piece of trim and some call to
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: air seal it.
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  Speaker 4: So it just takes a lot of times on these things.
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: It just takes an appraising odd to take a look at.
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: I mean, you can find walk through what the solutions
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: are going to be, but as far as all the
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: different types of things that can can happen in things
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: you need to make sure that you treat and stuff
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: like that. I mean, there's a lot of things that
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: can happen and and things that you may not always
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: think about a lot, like when the exterior of the
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: house when it comes to ventilation and stuff like that.
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: If you have improper like shrubbery or whatever that's growing,
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: if you've let something that grow over something, maybe you
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: decided to stack a wood pile next to your house
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: and it's and it's like next to the vent or something.
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: I mean, there's things that you can do completely without
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: thinking about it's the exterior of your home that could
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: that could affect some of this.
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I've seen decks built where they put
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: the ledger board right over the vent and they drill
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: holes through the ledger bold word, thinking that's going to
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: let air move and it's just not. I mean, it's
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: it requires a vented crawl space requires a lot of
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: air movement to keep it dry. And one of the
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: issues with the evented crawl space is you're you're bringing
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: an atmospheric air into a crawl space, so there's no
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: amount of ventilation or dehumidification that's going to be to
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: day like this. When it's I mean it's foggy at
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: ground level, that means it's very very humid, right, so
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: it's very humid in a crawl space, that is in
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: a evented crawl space. Now that the idea behind that
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: is it heats up, it dries out, and then we
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: get some moist air. But you know, with that said,
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: another another very common thing to look for that that
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: someone can look for in a crawl space to see
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: if they have a moisture or a water vapor issue,
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: which is the probably the biggest concern I have is
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: is condensation either developing on the duct work during the
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: summer because you've got cold supply ducts in the cross
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: space which will allow condensation to occur, or in the
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: winter I kind of touched on briefly earlier, you might
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: have water droplets or frost around the perimeter of the
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: building in the winter. Those are definitely signs of water issues.
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: And these are something Again, if it's something that you see,
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: the problem is there, So it's just a matter if
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: you should probably get it evaluated and find out what
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: you need to take. If it's a problem that you
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: didn't know that you had and suddenly you're noticing, if
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: that means there could be something going on and you're
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: proper you're not aware of it, and it might get worse.
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: It's always better when it comes to water to get
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: these things early rather than let major issues develop over time.
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you definitely don't want this to compound because it starts,
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: you know, if you've got these issues, it starts with
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: mold growth and then it turns into decay. Decay is
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: a function of the mold growth, and mold is actually
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: consuming the cellulose of the wood. So if you have rot,
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: you have mold. If you have mold, you're going to eventually,
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: if the conditions stay right for the growth to continue,
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: you will end up with the k at some point.
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: And sometimes the solutions I mean you have to be
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: aware of all of the different options you can have.
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: I mean, the solution to liquid water, as you talked about,
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: is different from water vapor. That's different from other things
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: that you might run into. But you could get to
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: the point where you have to I mean, you have
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: to do all the little details first. You have to
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: make sure that you have proper drainage, that your gutters
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: are clean, and you do all the normal maintenance and
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: stuff like that. You have to make sure that setup
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: is correct and then start working on the infrastructure for it,
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: and there could be quite a bit depending on what's
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: going on with your house. You might have to redo
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: the draining system altogether or put in a better draining
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: system something like that. If you're having problems with water,
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: that's something you need to get evaluated for to see.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: But it's not something you should just let go because
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: that's where real problems can come in.
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and we have different options to address the water,
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: the actual liquid water. Of course, we want to take
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: care of all the low hanging fruit outside by like
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: cleaning the gutters, extending the downspouts, trying to do surface
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: drainage issues, creating drainage swales, maybe installing French drains. Those
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: are things that will address that surface water. We then
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: have to those but those aren't guarantees that the water
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: won't enter the crawl space. Those are at that point
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: we have to do one of two things. We either
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: have to fix it from the outside with a proper
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: foundation waterproofing and drainage system, which does require excavation, or
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: going inside the crawl space and installing an engineer an
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: interior foundation drain which unfortunately in our industry is referred
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: to as waterproofing and it is not. It's a water
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: management system. It is not waterproofingu and it is not.
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: And I fight this battle every day. The industry is
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: pushing that the interior system is better. The interior system
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: is not better. Architectural drawings for large commercial buildings do
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: not put interior drains. Our engineers and architects do not
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: recommend interior drains on new construction in lieu of an
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: exterier foundation drain. But in our industry that's being pushed now.
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: There are benefits to both. An interior drain is cheaper,
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: so there is that benefit. Uh, it is less invasive,
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: so there are there are benefits. But to suggest that
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: it is a better performing system, like I hear oftentimes
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: being conveyed to me by potential clients who have had
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: other companies out there, it is not an exterior foundation
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: waterproofing system is the gold standard for a drainage around
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: the house. There's the reasons it's being pushed inside as
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: it can be done without equipment, and they can they
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: can push higher profit margins. Is to be honest with you,
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: and we we we do the interior drain system as well,
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: but we also uh, we give the client the option
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: of the outside drain and if that's you know, if
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: we go whatever direction the owner wants based on the situation,
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: sometimes an exterior drain can actually be cheaper than an
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: interior drain. If if that, if the excavation is.
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: Shallow, that's great information. As always been appreciate you tuning
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: in this morning to the show. Brett Hadsen is the
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: guest this morning from Foster Foundation Repair answering all your questions.
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: It has to do with foundations and basements. Waterproofing and
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: cross spaces are kind of our topic of the day
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: and we do have a text message from the three
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: zero four to three eight nine. I have a vented
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: cross space under my house and I have for some
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: reason close the vents during the winter months. Should I
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: be leaving vents open throughout the year?
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: I would say it depends. Every situation is different. If
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: your floor is insulated, you should be able to leave
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: your crawl space events open. Now if you've got to.
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: If you have a supply line right next to event,
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: you do run the risk of that line freezing. But
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: generally a crawl space is going to stay fairly tempered.
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: It's not there's not going to be large swings in
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: the temperature because you have the the earth is kind
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: of maintaining that condition the temperature. But generally you want
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: to have ventilation in a crawl space if but you know,
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: some crawl spaces the environment is so dry it's irrelevant.
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: Sometimes you you need to keep that vent open. So unfortunately,
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: it's very dependent and typically somebody like myself can't give
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: you that answer even on one if I came out
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: and looked at it, I can't give you that one
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: day and one day analysis. A good way to do
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: to answer that question, varying expensively, is to invest in
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: a device that you can place in the crawl space
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: and it will It connects to an app on your phone.
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: It tells you what the the indoor environment is. I
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: have one in my crawl space. I use what it's
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: called a temp stick, and it's real time gives me
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: temperature and humidity readings really well.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: This is just like my meat thermometer that I use.
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  Speaker 5: It's so right now my crawl space. Over the last month,
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  Speaker 5: in my crawl space, I can tell what the average
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  Speaker 5: temperature in humidity was.
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  Speaker 3: I can.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, it gives me hourly readings and it can
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  Speaker 5: I don't look at it daily, but it is nice
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  Speaker 5: to look at periodically. So that would be a good
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  Speaker 5: way for you to kind of decide whether what your
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: if your actions are correct or not. Is to invest
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  Speaker 5: in that. I think it was a maybe one hundred
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: and two hundred dollars. It was not a big investment.
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  Speaker 5: There's not I don't believe I have a monthly a
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: reoccurring monthly fee. I think it was a one time fee.
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  Speaker 5: So it's it's a and it's very it's very helpful.
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  Speaker 4: So right now in Charleston at seventy four degrees, humidity
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  Speaker 4: is ninety two percent outside what is a target temperature
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  Speaker 4: for humidity that's in the livable range inside of.
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  Speaker 5: A house in the fifty fifty five sixty degrees not
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: degrees relative percent. Yeah, so I think I don't remember.
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: I think I have my my DEMITTI fire set at
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: fifty five in my crawl space percent relative humidity. So
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: that's that's generally the goal. What also the other things
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  Speaker 5: you know, for from a mold growth standpoint, where we've
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: got to monitor the moisture content of the wood, we
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: want to keep that under really, we want to keep
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: it under like fifteen or right at fifteen. But at
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: twenty percent relative or moisture content in the wood is
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  Speaker 5: when you'll start running the risk of mold growth. And
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  Speaker 5: that's another thing we run against the in the industry
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  Speaker 5: is everybody's runing around with these moisture meters that you
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: plug in the poke into the wood and it spits
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  Speaker 5: out a number and that's shown to the client. Oh,
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  Speaker 5: you've got fifteen percent relative humidity in your wood. That's
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: risk you're almost to twenty. Well, you don't want zero.
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: You can't have zero, so that you know, we've got
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  Speaker 5: to be you got to be very careful. You don't
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  Speaker 5: want your wood. You don't want things to be too
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: dry either, So there is a healthy balance. But fifteen
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: to fifty five is a good relative humidity for the
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: indoor air environment.
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: And talking a little bit more about the water vapor
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: issues and some of the solutions to that. Really there's
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: all we've talked about the encapsulation and different things like that.
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: But after the encapsulation or are there hybrids of things
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: that you can do, like can you do like a
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: dehumidifiring or cross base with the encapsulation. Is there any
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: point in that or you just wasting electricity. Are there
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: any measures you can take if you can't do a
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: full encapsulation for something.
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  Speaker 5: Like that, I mean definitely, if you can't do a
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: full encapsulation, a good quality vapor bearer that stretches wall
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: to wall, tight to the piers, you can overlap the joints.
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  Speaker 5: That is a good start because there is a lot
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: of moisture that evaporates or comes out of the ground
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: as evaporation. Outside of that, there I mean a running
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: a dehuven, a fire and a crawl space just wide open.
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: I mean you're fighting atmosphere. Yah, that's what my mother
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: nature is going to win.
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: And you mentioned mold a couple of times, and so
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: that that's something else, much like plumbing. If you have
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: a mold issue, that's something where you have to if
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: it needs remediated, that's something that you need to get
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: another company to help you with.
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: In my opinion, yes, there are certifications, there are companies
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: that specialize this in mold mitigation. We don't do any
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: type of mold mitigation. We bring in a contractor a subcontractor,
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: or what we do is we just put the owner
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: in touch with right, you know, I don't I don't
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: need to hire a subcontractor and mark that price of it.
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: It's not I'm trying to help people out more than anything,
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: but yes, they need to make sure that they're they're
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: hiring somebody that has proper certifications. Going in there with
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: a bottle of bleach is not correct, right, Going in
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: there with hydrogen peroxide is not a permanent solution. So
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: there are companies that have gone through the process to
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: learn how to do this properly, know the safety steps
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: that will protect their employees as well as you as
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: an owner when when doing that work.
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: That's great information as always as we get every time
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: that Bret's on the airwaves here, which is the second
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: to Tuesday.
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: Of every month, right, No, I think that's right. Yeah, yeah,
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: today's okay, yeah, second Tuesday every month for the summer. Yeah,
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: for the summer. Anyway, right back to winds and then
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: then we'll move back. That's absolutely correct.
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: But you can tune into this program, you can see
• 36:51
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• 36:53
  Speaker 4: You can go to WHS network dot com, slash ate
• 36:57
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• 36:59
  Speaker 4: or slash podcast, so you can found all of our
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: podcast information there and let me get the information out
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: to you one more time. Brett Hodgton is the owner
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: of Foster Foundation Repair. The website is Foster Foundation Repair
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  Speaker 4: dot com. Their phone number three zero four seven seven
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  Speaker 4: six sixty two sixty three three zero four seven seven
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  Speaker 4: six sixty two sixty three and their address is forty
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  Speaker 4: two twenty six Woodrum Lane in Charleston. That's forty two
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  Speaker 4: twenty six Woodroom Lane again, the phone number three zero
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  Speaker 4: a four seven seven six sixty two sixty three. Three
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  Speaker 4: zero four seven seven six sixty two sixty three. Brett,
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: thanks a lot for your time again today, a lot
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: of hugely useful information.
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's my pleasure.
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: We'll see you back here in about a month. YEP.
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: That'll do it with for us today. Thank you so
• 37:38
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• 37:40
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• 37:42
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• 37:45
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• 37:47
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