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Learn or Win: Effort Over Perfection

In this episode of Trash Talk, Dan Zimmerman and Eric Stuehrenberg take on a debate that shows up on nearly every project: is "effort, not perfection" permission to move fast and loose, or the mindset that actually keeps things moving forward? The two come at it from different angles — one leaning into the discipline of getting it exactly right, the other making the case that waiting for perfect can stall progress just as much as doing nothing at all.

The conversation moves from big-picture philosophy into real, on-the-ground practices — how teams plan for risk before a job starts, and how…

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