Latest / Deprogrammed Music Podcast / Harry Chapin
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- 0:33It's deprogram the podcast where we try to get you into an
- 0:37artist. That's right.
- 0:38We've done all the work for you and all you have to do is push
- 0:41play. And you know what?
- 0:44I was going to make some sort of Cats in the Cradle thing or I
- 0:47was going to bring up another song.
- 0:49But really? But what we're getting to the
- 0:51bottom of today is why is it that you hate me, Chris, Today
- 0:57we're talking about. Harry Chapin and this one has
- 1:01been kind of back burnered probably for about a good two
- 1:05years. I know you've been been talking
- 1:06about wanting, wanting to do this, so so talk to me about
- 1:10Harry Chapin and why it was so important that that that we did
- 1:14a Harry Chapin episode. Well, he's probably my favorite
- 1:22artist, musical artist pretty much of all time.
- 1:25My dad. Instilled in me a love for music
- 1:29in general and Harry Chapin specifically all my life as long
- 1:35as I can remember. He took me to see him a few
- 1:37times. I mean he played guitar and sang
- 1:41Harry Chapin songs at the table. Just a very important artist
- 1:47when I was young and then as I grew older and actually started
- 1:50understanding 90% of the songs that he wrote and played.
- 1:56I grew to love him even more, so I think I used to say it was my
- 2:01mission life to make everybody a Harry Chapin fan.
- 2:04So this is, you know, a step in that direction, hopefully.
- 2:08Aggress at. Least at least a couple of
- 2:11people. Yeah, aggressive, aggressive.
- 2:14So this is what I'm curious about because Marlene, you got
- 2:17roped into this and I word it that way because.
- 2:21I got to assume that you know you don't just lightly jump into
- 2:24a Harry Chapin episode, but what I am curious about is, is this
- 2:28something that you married into? You married into a love of of
- 2:32Harry Chapin or or did you find him on your own?
- 2:37I would say I'm married into it. You know, I have heard obviously
- 2:41Cats in the Cradle, but I had no idea really who Harry Chapin was
- 2:46before I started dating Chris. And he was.
- 2:49Yeah, aggressive. You're right aggressive about
- 2:53introducing me to Harry Chapin and.
- 2:56Yeah. And you know most of most of his
- 2:59music is I don't know. I don't even know what to say
- 3:05about him. He's I like, I like his music.
- 3:09A bunch of it is catchy. Some of it is just really makes
- 3:13you think and I don't know. There's just something about
- 3:20him. It's it's it feels like more
- 3:23than music. It feels like, all right, go
- 3:32back to. Christmas I I pull him in with
- 3:34guys like Woody Guthrie. He was a protest singer, not
- 3:39just an entertainer. Almost all of the proceeds from
- 3:44all of his live concerts and he toured aggressively, like. 200
- 3:49at least 200 concerts a year. And he, he created World Hunger
- 3:54year and put so much money and effort into stopping hunger, not
- 3:59just in the United States, but global.
- 4:01And that's still around. Excuse me.
- 4:06So yeah, you know he was a humanitarian protest singer.
- 4:11He believed in all sorts of equal rights.
- 4:14Wrote songs about them and just an amazing storyteller through
- 4:19song. Yeah, so many of his songs are
- 4:23catchy and then you listen to the lyrics a few times and
- 4:25you're like, God damn this is 1 depressing ass song but it's
- 4:30making my toes tap. Yeah, as as Marlene was kind of
- 4:34taught, the word that kept coming and it didn't come until
- 4:38we started talking here was sombering.
- 4:39Like there's there's very much a sombering effect.
- 4:42When listening to Harry Chapin and you know, again, so this is
- 4:46basically introduction for me because, you know, Cats in the
- 4:50Cradle is one of those songs that's been in my brain, you
- 4:53know, literally my whole life. And I'd never knew who it was
- 4:58until Ugly Kid Joe covered it. And then so that was a whole
- 5:01thing for a minute. And you know, you you do the
- 5:04dive and go, oh, OK Harry Chapin, I get it.
- 5:07And then. Chris comes to me with with we
- 5:11should do an episode on them and like, I'm like, oh OK like and
- 5:14and we'll talk about, you know the list here in a minute.
- 5:16But like oh OK And I get ready to to like listen and sombering
- 5:22like that's the word. Like not, you know there's
- 5:24definitely points where it's depressing with the toe tapping
- 5:28like you said for sure. But then there's there's
- 5:30somewhere it's just flat out depressing sometimes like even
- 5:34even. Like the the lyrics cut through
- 5:37the, you know, the the the catchiness.
- 5:40There's silliness here too. I I, I found some silliness and
- 5:45you know, it's it's a lot of different things.
- 5:48And you know the whole time I'm like, why, why is it that Chris
- 5:50hates me? Like, I I thought, I thought we
- 5:54were friends. So you do you do love me
- 5:59somewhat because you did you did, you know do some really
- 6:03hard work before we even started.
- 6:05You cut it down to, I think we're only bringing 72 songs
- 6:08here, so talk to me about, like, how you decided what was going
- 6:12to be eligible here. It was hard.
- 6:16I cut and I might make you listen to some of them.
- 6:20I cut some of the songs that are just just too depressing to
- 6:25listen to, not the. And a lot of the stuff is like
- 6:30because this is meant to make a list of songs you want to
- 6:32introduce somebody to an artist to.
- 6:35And a lot of his songs are like, yeah, this one's like, way too
- 6:38dark to just throw at somebody and say, hey, check this song
- 6:42out. Like, like, the biggest one that
- 6:46comes to mind is Dog Town, about this fisherwoman's wife who ends
- 6:50up, like, married, not married. Like getting sexual pleasure
- 6:54from the dog is the undertone of it because her husband. 3rd or
- 7:004th, Husband has gone off to fishing and died.
- 7:03Wow. Yeah.
- 7:06So that that's a fun story song. So I cut out a lot of songs like
- 7:11that, a lot of songs that I just thought, like if you get into
- 7:15Harry Chapin, you go and listen to the rest of his stuff and
- 7:18this is stuff you can grow to appreciate or just say, Oh no,
- 7:21this is just awful. And also his songs are very,
- 7:25very long. Yeah.
- 7:28Yeah, we did. I don't would you say 70
- 7:30something songs? It was 6 to 8 hours worth of
- 7:33music because a lot of his songs are very, very long.
- 7:39I think the longest clock's in at 14 minutes and average is
- 7:44probably 5 to 7 minutes. He didn't write songs to be
- 7:48played as on the radio as you know to make #1 singles or
- 7:53anything like that, so. So then as as you're having to
- 7:57make that next step, so you doing little it down to 72 for
- 8:00us for you know as our launching point here but then when you
- 8:05have to look at those 72 songs and pick you were 20 for this
- 8:08conversation tonight like how did you go about that?
- 8:12It was. It was probably the hardest one
- 8:15I've ever done. Not as hard as I thought it was
- 8:18going to be in the end. In the end, I just thought, you
- 8:23know, you need to put your personal biases aside.
- 8:25And think about songs that you want somebody who's never
- 8:29listened to Harry Chapin before, a song that they're going to
- 8:32listen to and say, hey, this is pretty good, I want to learn
- 8:36more. And that's when I hit you with,
- 8:37you know, Dog Town and stuff like that.
- 8:41So yeah, so that's how I I took that mindset of, you know, and I
- 8:49cut out a lot of songs that it broke my heart to cut because
- 8:52there's some of my favorite songs in the world.
- 8:54But. It's not something that your
- 8:57average person who's never heard Harry Chapin is going to listen
- 9:00to and say, yeah, I want to hear more of that.
- 9:04So this being what your your third or fourth time here
- 9:07Marlene and being you know being like like we said, we joked
- 9:14marrying into being a Harry Chapin fan.
- 9:16Like was this a hard list for you to to get your head around?
- 9:22You know. I went into this with probably
- 9:2610 songs that were uncuttable for me.
- 9:29So you know, getting down to the other ten was harder than I
- 9:35expected. When Chris first told me that he
- 9:41wanted me to do this, I was like, oh, I can do that easy.
- 9:44That should be no problem for me and some of the songs that I
- 9:50started listing then. From even on my list now.
- 9:53So it was surprising for me. It was not as hard for me as
- 10:01Bernie was because you know, but it was, it was harder than I
- 10:11expected. Yeah, and she's only here
- 10:15because I'd never thought anybody else would sign up for
- 10:17Harry Chapin. It was probably gonna sit on
- 10:19the. Board for a while.
- 10:21And I knew we needed 1/3 and I really wanted to do it.
- 10:24And so I asked her and she said yes.
- 10:27And that's one of the one of the reasons I love her.
- 10:29Only two years. She's she's she's willing to do
- 10:32stuff like this, so. I can.
- 10:35Talk about Harry Chapin and you know, what's the word?
- 10:41Prossel. Prossel.
- 10:43I. Can't pronounce so prophesize.
- 10:46There we go. Be a prophet for Harry Chapin.
- 10:50So. Spread the cult.
- 10:52As I'm, you know going through, I think I might have told you
- 10:56like I think my first pass was like 40 something.
- 10:59So I I about halved it and you know, I don't know that I
- 11:05necessarily had any kind of gamesmanship as far as you know
- 11:09that first pass just kind of. Going on a whim and when I
- 11:15started making cuts, there's a couple that I was like, OK,
- 11:18yeah, I think I can do this without this one.
- 11:20And then like, I'm listening to them and they're all, you know,
- 11:22there's there's a handful that I felt like OKI feel really good
- 11:25about these. And then the rest of the list,
- 11:28I'm just like, I really don't know, like I I feel like this is
- 11:33an artist that the 20 could change, you know?
- 11:36Next time I listen to him. So I was like well, I I don't
- 11:40want to sit here and and you know, commiserate over over
- 11:46these cuts. I'm just going to start cutting
- 11:48and you know, just brutally with no reason just tossing stuff on
- 11:52the floor. So it's like well we got, we got
- 11:54to get there so that could end up making this rather messy.
- 11:59Which brings me to the next layer of the conversation,
- 12:03Chris, based on everything we've said so far, how many do you
- 12:05think we are going to get through unanimously for the
- 12:08final say? I don't know.
- 12:10See, I couldn't do like you said, I couldn't play any
- 12:12gamesmanship with my list because you'd never heard him
- 12:15before. So I can't in my head I most of
- 12:18the time I can be like, Oh well, this is a song I think Justin
- 12:21will like or this is a song I think he won't like.
- 12:23But like you've never heard any of these songs.
- 12:26And you know, I know you some, but I'm not there weren't any.
- 12:30Like there weren't any songs I don't think where I was like,
- 12:33oh, Justin's definitely picking this one because it's such a
- 12:37mystery bunch of songs. I Let's let's say 3.
- 12:44Okay. Yeah, that sounds like a good
- 12:45number. You know, you hate to swing low
- 12:48like that, but, you know, with this, it's vast.
- 12:51You know, What do you think, Marlene?
- 12:56So yeah, I the thing about these songs is that they are.
- 13:05Vastly different. He doesn't have a style he
- 13:09doesn't have, you know, Oh, this song is just like this song is.
- 13:15Yeah. So I don't know what that has to
- 13:19do with this. Anyway, I'm going to be
- 13:23optimistic and I'm going to say 5.
- 13:26Oh, I like it. Take the big swing.
- 13:28You also have the. You also have the benefit of
- 13:30knowing what songs I love and you could play the game like.
- 13:34I think Chris would probably pick this one cuz he really
- 13:37likes it. I could, but some of the songs
- 13:42that I know you really love aren't necessarily on my list.
- 13:46Yeah, yeah, he can. He can bring me into Harry
- 13:54Chapin. But I'm gonna have my own
- 13:56opinion. Of course.
- 13:57Absolutely. The three was going to be my
- 14:01number because I've got three that feel like probably should
- 14:06be in there. So now the question becomes do I
- 14:10out positive Marlene or do I out negative, Chris?
- 14:16Or you could. Or you could drop in the middle,
- 14:17yeah. Do I split the difference?
- 14:21You know I'm going to do that. I'm going to split the
- 14:23difference. I'm going to go 4, because that
- 14:26seems like the safe bet, of course.
- 14:29The reality is I don't want that weight when when it comes down
- 14:32to it, but we'll see. All right.
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- 15:19The name of the game is deprogrammed.
- 15:21The three of us have come through a very select few songs
- 15:25of 72 to be exact of Harry Chapin's discography that we
- 15:29have plucked out, 20 songs that we are now going to mash
- 15:31together in an attempt to create a top 10 starter kit for you in
- 15:35case you have never given Harry Chapin a chance.
- 15:39Which is likely. Which is very likely, and I'll
- 15:43tell you this. So this doesn't have the benefit
- 15:48of. I don't think we did very many
- 15:50full albums. So I I can't go to the like the
- 15:54the thing that I normally do. But I will tell you this is
- 15:57where I first locked into going OK this this episode could be a
- 16:01problem And so that's why I'm leading with this song.
- 16:05Love is just another word. Nope.
- 16:12Oh. Coming in hot oh.
- 16:17OK, so I have dance band, right? I've got the 1 greatest stories.
- 16:24Like it's one of the first, It's the third song on the list.
- 16:27Oh, OK. Yeah.
- 16:28No, no, you're right. My bad.
- 16:33That's right. This was OK.
- 16:35I was thinking of something else.
- 16:37This is just what it's great. I said I was a super late cut.
- 16:43I really like that song a lot. And so it begins.
- 16:49I don't. All right, Chris, I.
- 16:56Don't even know where to begin. I usually go with like, my
- 16:59favorite so I can get the hurt out of the way.
- 17:05Yeah, I mean, let's do that. It may not be my favorite, but
- 17:08it's one of the most important ones to me.
- 17:10Story of a life. Yes.
- 17:14Yes, I got it. Hey.
- 17:17I got it somewhere down here. I should probably type it in
- 17:25instead of doing it. There we go.
- 17:30Well, there's one. If I had to say, I mean, I can't
- 17:36speak for Marlene, but if I had to say we had a A song hit that
- 17:41was a Harry Chapin song, it would be this one.
- 17:44Probably. It's a great song about love and
- 17:49growing up in relationships and marriage and just living life.
- 18:00And I when I was listening to it, I felt like this is as close
- 18:05as he gets to. Harry Chapin Sound.
- 18:11Yes, this is this is pretty standard Harry Chapin song.
- 18:14He wrote this when he was on an airplane line to Texas in the
- 18:19huge storm He thought he was might die and wrote the words
- 18:25down to this song. It's.
- 18:28Crazy this was this is listed as my my 20th song.
- 18:34I don't think it was ever necessarily in danger of not
- 18:37making it, but just a note. All right, Marlene.
- 18:46I am going to go with empty. Nope.
- 18:55Yes. Nice.
- 18:57That was another light cut, and one that I really like a lot.
- 19:02I definitely need to get the search function.
- 19:03Out here. I'm gonna say that about all of
- 19:05them. That's a song that I really
- 19:06liked a lot, but it was. Really.
- 19:09But they all okay. Every single one was a hard cut
- 19:17for me, so. I'm staying near the top here,
- 19:22and this is one that we actually got when I asked, which somebody
- 19:27actually answered. What do you consider essential?
- 19:31Wold. Yes, I wish I kept it, but I
- 19:37didn't again. And that one is actually one of
- 19:43his attempts when the label was begging him to write, you know,
- 19:47something that could be played on the radio.
- 19:50So it's shorter, but it's it's not a very good what what's the
- 20:00word I'm looking for? Got this out right.
- 20:04Yeah, right, me edit. Edit not advertisement or
- 20:10promotion. I know what you're saying.
- 20:15It's it's it's not a very pretty song about, you know, being a
- 20:21radio DJ. So I can't imagine it got a lot
- 20:24of radio play because radio stations are like, man, this
- 20:27makes it sound like. Being a DJ sucks, and we know it
- 20:30does, but we don't want people to know that.
- 20:35Yeah, I have this song too and I love this song.
- 20:40I think it is just honest. Yeah.
- 20:49Yeah, and I think it checks a box of.
- 20:53You know it. It's good to hear like this was
- 20:55his attempt to to write a radio song, which is must be why I was
- 20:59drawn to it is, you know, that's what we're trying to do here is,
- 21:05you know, lure somebody in and if this is his attempt at it and
- 21:10it it nabbed two of us. So we'll see once we get around
- 21:14to the next round. And him being a showman as he
- 21:18toured every city he would go to.
- 21:23The last near the end of the song, he would do a local all
- 21:27sign, like in Albany. He would occasionally do WFLY
- 21:32instead of Wold. You know I am the morning DJ at
- 21:35WFLYYY. Stuff like that.
- 21:38Yeah. And so and the locals loved it.
- 21:41So among other things he was also a very good showman all.
- 21:46Right, Chris. Using that as a segue, I'll pick
- 21:51a song that I kept only because it kind of shows how good he was
- 21:58talking to a crowd and getting the crowd into the songs.
- 22:00Plus, I just think it's a great song and it's not heavy.
- 22:04It's one of his funnier songs. Odd job, man.
- 22:08Yes, I have it. No, I don't.
- 22:11But that that. Was that you playing a game or
- 22:16no? OK.
- 22:17No, that was. The song that I thought I was
- 22:22going to cut right up until 20 minutes ago because I had 21.
- 22:28And the song, I thought it was going to cut and then I didn't.
- 22:33There you go. Because because it's one of his
- 22:37lighter songs and I just, it's kind of funny.
- 22:41Yeah. I think that's what played
- 22:43against it. I mean, again, like I'm making
- 22:47those brutal cuts. And I'm like, man, I love this,
- 22:50I think this is great. But you know, I guess, I guess I
- 22:57I didn't want to show his lightheartedness because for
- 23:00whatever reason. Right, let's.
- 23:01Show the cold. Yeah, my, yeah, my thoughts were
- 23:05just, you know, I want people to see it like, oh, he was like a
- 23:09very good not only a writer and performer, but just an
- 23:13entertainer. And this song just moves that
- 23:17across really well. I think that it's important to
- 23:20show the range that an artist or group has, and so you know,
- 23:27that's actually one of the reasons I ended up keeping it.
- 23:31They're not all counters, they're.
- 23:33Not. All right, Marlene.
- 23:38So this is my #1 uncuttable. You both better have it or your
- 23:44dead song. From Hair Chapin a Better Place
- 23:48to be. Yes, of course I have it.
- 23:53Okay. I don't.
- 23:55It's all right. That's Okay.
- 23:59A better. And again, this is one of those
- 24:02ones where I'm sorry I don't even have an answer to why.
- 24:06No, that's fine. Too long, probably.
- 24:10Maybe. You see?
- 24:11You can't do that with Harry Chapin though, because they're
- 24:13all long, so. Yeah, but this one is like 9
- 24:16minutes long or something. So this song I just, I love the
- 24:21story, I love the melody, and I don't think that a live version
- 24:29was on this. No, there is a live version on
- 24:33which the Gold Medal collection. Which I really love.
- 24:37The live version it's again it it shows his showmanship.
- 24:41And also greatest stories live, but I put the studio version on
- 24:45the on the list. So I like the little bit he does
- 24:48in front of the live version where, yeah, I was in Watertown
- 24:51for a year, one afternoon or something.
- 24:53Yeah, I spent a week there one afternoon.
- 24:55Yeah, I used that joke a lot. Now you've never been to
- 24:59Watertown and don't know what Watertown?
- 25:00Is he may have. Oh, have you been to Watertown?
- 25:03You're up in Glens Falls. Oh.
- 25:06I'm familiar with it. I'm sure I was there.
- 25:10At some point, but. We but you don't remember it
- 25:13thus. I remember the name, but I don't
- 25:15remember Watertown. It's it's just one of those
- 25:18small piss Ant Midwest mid mid New York towns.
- 25:25Now now I'm going to be thinking about it because we moved.
- 25:29We moved when I was 12 or 13, but we went all over the state
- 25:34all the time, including but not limited to the Scatakoke Fair.
- 25:38But anyway. There you go.
- 25:40Yeah, I put this version on again because so many of the
- 25:43songs are very long. Like the live version is, I
- 25:46think at least another minute or two longer.
- 25:49And you know, I hate you, but I didn't want to kill you.
- 25:57OK, I keep. Looking at this one, so I feel
- 26:01like I probably need to do this one.
- 26:03It felt like a good story and as as mentioned, he's a great
- 26:07storyteller. Mr. Tanner.
- 26:11Yes, of course. Oh, OK.
- 26:13Yes, of course. You love to hear that.
- 26:15Oh yeah, this is one our buddy Frank sang occasionally and I
- 26:20got to sing with him once doing the Mr. Tanner part, the oh Holy
- 26:26night bit and yeah. I didn't, oh Holy Night wasn't
- 26:31like a big Christmas song for me up until I started singing it at
- 26:34church. And probably because this song,
- 26:39like, I don't think I heard it the whole song before and then
- 26:44we did it at church. I'm like, oh, hey, this is that
- 26:46song from the Harry Chapin song and now it's one of my favorite
- 26:49songs to sing. No, I just, you know, when I was
- 26:54listening to it. Earlier today, actually, I was,
- 26:58I was waiting to pick up my son. And you know, whenever we do a
- 27:02show on a Friday, that's when I try to listen to my list.
- 27:06And like, I was like, why did I pick Mr. Tanner?
- 27:08And I started listening to it. And then like, Mr. Tanner comes
- 27:11in, you know, the Mr. Tanner part comes in and I'm like, oh,
- 27:14that's why. Like there's this, this whole
- 27:17story happening. And I'm like, oh man, this is
- 27:19this is great. I feel like.
- 27:20And you know, again, I love when I pick a song.
- 27:24And the answer is, of course that means.
- 27:26That means right I did something right?
- 27:29Yeah. Is that our first?
- 27:31This is our second thing, Animus.
- 27:33So yeah, and it's just. Story of a life, right?
- 27:37Yes, Yeah. It's just, and it's a great
- 27:39comment on how hard it is to make it in show business and
- 27:44how, you know critics can just blow somebody off and then that
- 27:49person just like loses all will to try to make it and just, you
- 27:55know. Yeah.
- 27:57Can relate all right. You didn't know how well he
- 28:00sang. It just made him whole.
- 28:02Yeah. All right.
- 28:04Great, great stuff. Chris.
- 28:09Well, let's keep going with the long ass good stories and say
- 28:16what made America famous? Yes.
- 28:20No. One of my most favorite story
- 28:25songs of his, and it's got some good social commentary in it as
- 28:29well, as many of them do. Again, there's there's no reason
- 28:37I don't don't shoot the messenger well.
- 28:40I know it's all good. Both.
- 28:42I'm both the Messenger and the Deliverer.
- 28:45All right, Marlene. So this is another good social
- 28:50commentary one. What do little Why do little
- 28:53girls? Yes.
- 28:56Fucking hell no. That says a lot about you,
- 29:02Justin. I think I always enjoyed that
- 29:08song. Love the banjo, not a lot of
- 29:11banjo out there. And I love a good banjo bit.
- 29:15And now that I've had two girls. It's even more important to me.
- 29:19And now that I'm a girl, it's very important to me as well.
- 29:24I don't know. I know it was on my first pass,
- 29:27so I don't know why I ended up cutting it.
- 29:30It just I just did. I get it.
- 29:35All right, shoot. OK, how about I want to learn a
- 29:48love song? Yes, really.
- 29:53Nope, really. That was a that was a tough one
- 29:56to cut. And and it's not 1 where I'm
- 30:01like, oh, that's not something that I want.
- 30:04I wouldn't want people to listen to because that's a great song.
- 30:08It's a catchy song, isn't. It kind of like the story of how
- 30:10he met his wife. Yes.
- 30:13Did I? No.
- 30:14Yeah. No, I cut it.
- 30:16I don't. I don't know why.
- 30:19I probably cut it to keep fucking odd job, man or
- 30:22something. I don't know.
- 30:26It's got two though. I mean, we're not at MTP yet
- 30:29either. There's still, there's still a
- 30:31chance I might. Need to, Yeah.
- 30:33And I can't make at the end. I'm gonna suck because I can't
- 30:36make an argument against any of them, so.
- 30:39This is, This is why I said Why is it that you hate me?
- 30:41Like I I don't feel like there's arguments to be had.
- 30:44So yeah. All right.
- 30:47So I want to order a love song with me.
- 30:49Chris, you're up. I've got more story songs, but
- 30:54let's go, let's go with one of his historical story songs and
- 31:06also one of the like more horror ones, because he's got happy
- 31:10story songs and he's got sad ones and he's got scary ones.
- 31:13Sniper. I didn't.
- 31:17I didn't. Sorry, I didn't think anyone
- 31:19would, but that's a great based on the Texas college tower
- 31:29shooter back in the, I think, late 60s.
- 31:33Yeah. Like, kind of the OG mass
- 31:34shooter Kind of. Person right based on that, and
- 31:39I think he only did it like once or twice live and stopped doing
- 31:42it live because it was just too much of A downer.
- 31:47So I wanted to keep, you know, a couple of those that are just
- 31:49like, oh, that's a heavy fucking song because, you know, you
- 31:53wrote a lot of them and that's one of the better ones, I think
- 31:55also very long. All right, Marlene.
- 32:02OK. So I'll go with that.
- 32:05Not historical kind of a downer kind of.
- 32:09I don't know. I'm always amused by this song,
- 32:11even though it's kind of a downer.
- 32:12It's definitely a story song. One of the darker ones, the
- 32:15rock. Yes, that's a fun one.
- 32:22Yeah, I kept that from Maddie and Sean.
- 32:24That's their favorite Harry Shaven song.
- 32:26OK. The Philbuck brothers.
- 32:29Yeah, that's a fun one. Well.
- 32:31I don't know. It's yeah, if you're twisted,
- 32:34it's a fun one. Yeah.
- 32:35Yeah. Well, just like that, we're.
- 32:37Official We both like it so. We're officially out of NTP.
- 32:41I mean if we're looking for the good news but there's also
- 32:44plenty of game play left. So and we're all we all seem to
- 32:48be. I mean I think there's only been
- 32:52two misses and I think they're both no, no, no, Chris got one
- 32:54too, so. Yeah, I got right off the bat.
- 32:58I've deleted it. I don't remember.
- 33:00What it is? So all right, shoot.
- 33:05I keep looking at this one and I don't know why, but let's find
- 33:09out. Tangled up puppet.
- 33:13Well, I cut that one. Yeah, so did I.
- 33:17That's a good one. That's a great one, too.
- 33:21That's your little girl growing up.
- 33:23That's probably why I cut it. It's too fucking sad.
- 33:25I'm a. Tangled up puppet.
- 33:34All right, Chris. We'll go with the song.
- 33:47That's not a Harry Chapin song that I kept because it's just
- 33:50that good of a song written by his brother Steve.
- 33:53Like time, go lightly. Yes.
- 34:02I almost cut it. I almost cut it.
- 34:03I almost cut it so many times just because it's not a Harry
- 34:06Chapin song. Steve Chapin song.
- 34:08We shouldn't even have put it on the list.
- 34:10But it's. I love that song so damn much.
- 34:14What's funny is, you know, I was I push play on the so this is
- 34:19the first song on our playlist, which is the thing that I like
- 34:23to do, but usually I do that it's song one, album 1.
- 34:28And I don't know if it was something about just not knowing
- 34:32or knowing. I should say that we didn't.
- 34:35It wasn't built the same way. But as I was listening back, I
- 34:39was like, oh man, do I need to find room for this song.
- 34:43Because it feels like I need to find room for this song.
- 34:46And I was right, but I didn't do it, so.
- 34:49Yeah, yeah, just a really great song.
- 34:52And they I wasn't on any of the studio albums.
- 34:57We usually only did it live, and it was always so that Harry
- 35:01could take a little break and not sound like a frog by the end
- 35:04of the show. All right.
- 35:08You guys are gonna be done a little bit for me, Marlene.
- 35:15I think I am going to go with song that always reminds me of
- 35:22Chris. And he's given me a look.
- 35:28What the hell? I'm looking worried like oh geez
- 35:31no. When we started dating, Chris
- 35:36was working in the mall in the pretzel shop.
- 35:41And it's not pretzel Man. Nope.
- 35:45And I was an accountant for the county, and this song just
- 35:54seemed like us. And it was mismatch.
- 35:57Nope. I don't have it, but yeah, well.
- 36:02At least I don't feel that. No, that's fine.
- 36:06No, I kind of felt it was like my, you know, Yeah.
- 36:14Yeah, I love that. There's a yeah, I always thought
- 36:17the same, the same way. Great song today.
- 36:26I mean, I mean. Again.
- 36:28They all are it. It serves its purpose playing,
- 36:30playing the song when you miss, making you feel bad, you know.
- 36:34Yeah, yeah. Just for, especially for me,
- 36:37it's just a stab in the heart. All right.
- 36:42I'm going to go with the other one that I keep looking at and
- 36:45just keep going by. And part of this is the name of
- 36:50the song. It evokes the feeling that I get
- 36:54from the song. So like when when they go hand
- 36:57in hand together like that, like he does that, he does that
- 37:00wonderfully. Which I think is also in part
- 37:02why it was really difficult because you really do have to
- 37:06listen to the music sometimes. You can kind of listen to the
- 37:09song and go, OK, I remember what that one was, but then when you
- 37:12come back to it anyway, I'm, I'm saying too many words to say,
- 37:15poor damn fool. Yes.
- 37:19No. Yeah, really.
- 37:24That's another one that I used to think about Marlene and I,
- 37:29because she's dated this asshole and and she ended up with me.
- 37:36And you know, he's a poor damn fool.
- 37:39Except he never he didn't let her go.
- 37:40She dropped his ass to the curb. So right.
- 37:44Yeah, rightfully so. All.
- 37:47Right, Chris. How about let's get the elephant
- 37:54in the room out of the way, and this is another one that most
- 37:58people When you say, oh, what do you think about Harry Chapin?
- 38:01What are his great songs? It's Taxi.
- 38:04Yes. You know what I this is I don't
- 38:08have it. I don't have a reason, you know,
- 38:12as per usual. And if if this was, if this
- 38:17episode was happening. Tomorrow I probably would
- 38:21because I probably would have given it one last listen.
- 38:24I didn't get to that today, but somebody had mentioned it in the
- 38:30the, you know what it was essential.
- 38:33Yeah. And so I was like, I don't
- 38:35remember taxi. So I probably would have given
- 38:37it another listen and it probably would have made it,
- 38:40but. I almost cut it because it's
- 38:44like, oh, that's the song everybody knows, but I kept it
- 38:47because. Not a lot of people know Harry
- 38:49Chapin, but this is one of the songs that the people who do
- 38:52know him know him for. So somebody who's never heard of
- 38:55Harry Chapin might hear the song and say, oh, that's really good
- 38:57and it's also just a really good, great, based on truth
- 39:02story song of his. What I love about this song is
- 39:06he does a live sequel to it and I like them both.
- 39:13But. I just think that's really cool.
- 39:16That album was not on Spotify, that that album or that that
- 39:20song comes off of really, which bums me out because there's a
- 39:23lot of great songs on that album.
- 39:25There's two albums that were not on there at all have a lot of
- 39:31great songs that I would have loved to have included in this
- 39:33list. All right, Marlene.
- 39:39Oh, it's my turn. Dreams go by.
- 39:46Yes. Yes.
- 39:50Hey there. We go right there at the we
- 39:53made. 3. Three.
- 39:54Yeah. Dreams go abide.
- 40:00You gotta listen to the just listen to the entire Greatest
- 40:03Stories live album. There's a really good version of
- 40:05this on there. His live stuff is so good.
- 40:10Well you know and and you put a bunch of live stuff on here and
- 40:13I'm like, why, why? And like as you're as I'm
- 40:16listening, I'm like, oh, that's why.
- 40:23He'd have the crowd whistle because everybody who went to
- 40:28see him do the bit, so. There we go.
- 40:36Great song. I do not want that weight.
- 40:39So like, we either need to get 2 so we can put the weight on
- 40:43Marlene or we need to stay right here.
- 40:46I don't want the weight. How about everybody's lonely?
- 41:01Nope. No.
- 41:04Dios Mio. That song is lonely.
- 41:08Indeed, only one show at one pic.
- 41:15Everybody's lonely, including me.
- 41:21All right, Chris. And I don't even know I don't
- 41:33want to. Doesn't even have like a theme
- 41:36or anything. I'm just gonna start picking
- 41:38random songs that are on my list.
- 41:42Someone keeps calling my name. I don't have that one.
- 41:46That's. A good fucking song.
- 41:48I don't. I don't.
- 41:49Know why? That's a great one and became
- 41:54again more important to me after having children Great little.
- 42:03Kids course at the end to choir. Woof.
- 42:13All right, Marlene. This is another story song.
- 42:18Imagine that and another one of those ones that's absolutely
- 42:22uncuttable for me and that is stranger with the melodies.
- 42:25Yes. I wish I could make that
- 42:28unanimous, but. That's OK.
- 42:31That's OK. I just.
- 42:33Such a sweet melancholy, you know.
- 42:41Another song about how hard it is to be in the music business
- 42:47and be in a relationship in the music business.
- 42:50Yeah, Okay. Now we're dwindling down to the
- 42:54ones where I don't. Think you just sing that to
- 42:56Jewels to put her to sleep? I don't know if there's any left
- 43:02that I feel really, really good about because.
- 43:07I got at least two or three that I think Marlene might also have,
- 43:10but. Yeah, I there's.
- 43:12I think there's one I'm keeping up my sleeve.
- 43:17Well, let's try this one out. How about bummer?
- 43:20Oh, I wish I kept that song. I did not keep that, that is
- 43:24actually. One of the Harry Chapin songs
- 43:27that I don't really like. It's a really good example of
- 43:33one of his angry social commentary songs.
- 43:37Yeah, that's that's a tough one. That one's a tough listen, great
- 43:44song, but that's a tough listen. That's probably why I didn't
- 43:46keep it. I think it's a little too heavy
- 43:49for introducing somebody to Harry Chapin to well.
- 43:53You caught my ear. It's a great song, it really is.
- 43:58All right, Chris. All right.
- 44:02Well, I'll fish for some unanimouss here, flowers are
- 44:05red. Yes.
- 44:11So this that song is about the education system in America and
- 44:19having kids in school. I liked it beforehand.
- 44:23By having kids in school, it's just.
- 44:27Kinda, you know, it makes a lot more sense.
- 44:31Yep, this is another one. I used to sing to Jules, and
- 44:37after a while she would sing the chorus part.
- 44:42At that time she'd be like, can you sing?
- 44:44The flowers are red. And I changed it.
- 44:46The little boy went to school to the little girl went to school
- 44:48for her, and then she would sing The flowers are red.
- 44:53Or no, not that the there are so many colors in the rainbow and
- 44:58listening to a three-year old girl sing that like in the dark
- 45:01going to sleep melt your damn heart.
- 45:08All right. So that was flares.
- 45:09Red was Chris. Marlene, it is your turn.
- 45:12I am almost out of song. I'm just gonna.
- 45:14Say like you guys are probably pretty close.
- 45:18I have 3 left I am going to go with.
- 45:23Could you put your light on please?
- 45:26Nope. That's OK.
- 45:29I have 6 left. So the this is the song that I
- 45:34thought I was gonna cut this or odd job, man.
- 45:39And I ended up cutting someone else and I kept this song.
- 45:42I just want to talk a little bit about it because some of the
- 45:46lyrics I hear a lot. He's talking about love and she
- 45:51makes it holy or he makes it holy.
- 45:53And I'm that's in this song and I just, I like that kind of
- 46:05imagery of you know, sacredness in in a song about loneliness,
- 46:16basically. I mean that's really what the
- 46:17song is about, but. So many.
- 46:22I think it's very poignant. So many of these, like, you
- 46:26know, as we're listening, it's like, man, I think if I would
- 46:29have had one more listen, it probably could have made my
- 46:32list, but like that. Goes to.
- 46:35That goes to my point earlier, like when we're doing the setup
- 46:38for it, I think I could have had a completely different 20, you
- 46:43know, easily because. I think this is the kind of
- 46:48artist where it's just it's just it can be it.
- 46:51It goes that way. Yeah.
- 46:55OK, I don't feel good about any of these.
- 46:58But how about this one? Why should people stay the same?
- 47:07I don't. Have that No.
- 47:18There's so many songs I wish I could have kept that I'm like, I
- 47:22should. I wish I had this song or this
- 47:23song or this song, Yeah, but this.
- 47:27I really hope people like, dive into it.
- 47:29Yeah, this is like, unfortunately how I was pretty
- 47:32sure it was gonna go. A lot of ones and twos, not very
- 47:37many threes. It's just it's it's vast.
- 47:40There's nothing you can really pinpoint, so.
- 47:44All right, Chris. How about mercenaries?
- 47:52Nope, Yes. I thought you might.
- 47:55That's like maybe the one song where I'm like, you know what?
- 48:00I bet Justin might pick this one.
- 48:02Well, you know, you got it. You got me, Marlene.
- 48:14My Mary were here. Damn it.
- 48:18No. Fuck, I love that song so much.
- 48:21A. Lot of that going on.
- 48:26I thought you. I really thought you would.
- 48:28Have in the live song in the live version again is all right.
- 48:32If you're listening to this, you want to go into Harry Chapin
- 48:36telling you this now listeners, listen to greatest stories live.
- 48:41Listen to Legends of the Lost and Found.
- 48:42They're both live albums and they're amazing.
- 48:49So we're gonna corral a cat before the dog finds her and
- 48:53kills her, OK? She went to going back upstairs.
- 48:59So. She's She's living dangerously.
- 49:02123. 4. 567 I've still got 7 left, so basically.
- 49:09Oh, wow. Yeah, I I'm the man who missed a
- 49:12lot. So basically this last round
- 49:16where you and I are basically going to be trying to snipe
- 49:19Marlene's last one out, I believe, because I think, yeah.
- 49:24Yeah, I have one. Last I bet I got it.
- 49:27All right, So boy, I'm going to feel really stupid for having
- 49:32the one that I I keep dancing around.
- 49:35Speaking of dancing, I'll, I'll go with this one, dancing boy.
- 49:39Say it yes. I don't have.
- 49:41It that's not the one I thought you had though, so that's a
- 49:44great song. It is.
- 49:47It is. And that was hard to that was
- 49:49hard to cut, but. And that's another one.
- 49:51I used to sing to Jules and just changed to girl because she was
- 49:55my dancing girl. She was.
- 49:59So that was all right. That was a no from Marle from.
- 50:02Marlene a no from Marlene, correct.
- 50:05Was it a no from you as well, Chris?
- 50:07No, I had dancing boy, OK, I had it.
- 50:09I had it. Lot of twos.
- 50:12Yeah, a lot of twos. Not looking forward to that,
- 50:15that part of the combo. All right, guys, it is your
- 50:18circle. No.
- 50:20Oh, wow. Circle was my choice.
- 50:25I knew you were gonna have it. I thought you'd have kept that
- 50:28one for Frank. No, I couldn't.
- 50:32OK. All right, now we find out.
- 50:35No more guessing. I will tell you the reason that
- 50:40this song is on my list. It is the only song I have from
- 50:44that album, whatever the album was, and that's why I kept it.
- 50:54But I don't know what I would have filled it with, honestly,
- 50:57on the road to Kingdom come. Yeah, I got that.
- 51:02Come Shit, what do you know? That's a good one.
- 51:06A lot of social commentary in that song.
- 51:08Yeah, that's a great album. That's the title of the album On
- 51:15the Road to King Of and that's a great album.
- 51:18I just feel it's not an album for the uninitiated.
- 51:22Yeah, I love every song on that album, but The Mayor of Candor
- 51:27Lied is another great story song.
- 51:30That's the one I almost kept instead of on the.
- 51:32Road That's on that album, but. So after you listen to those two
- 51:37live albums, go and listen to the rest of them all.
- 51:42Right, so I've got 4 left. Marlene's out so I'll just dump
- 51:46out here and see if I can find you.
- 51:47Chris, go for it. I'm going to start at the top.
- 51:50Short stories. No.
- 51:54OK, I was right for dancing around that one old fokie.
- 52:01Damn it. Oh, I really wanted to keep that
- 52:05one. Great song about Pete Seeger
- 52:08all. Right.
- 52:09This is the one that everybody knows, but I couldn't ignore it.
- 52:14Cats in the cradle. Cut it.
- 52:17Yeah. I haven't listened to that song
- 52:19since my dad died. I knew it was going to be
- 52:22sensitive, but I also was like, I can't deny it, so.
- 52:26Oh no, it's it's it's his most well known song.
- 52:29Yeah, and it's a great song. It's also, well, it's not a
- 52:32great song. It's a sad song about a shitty
- 52:34dad. But.
- 52:37But it's, you know, powerful song, I guess you should say.
- 52:40Powerful indeed, Jenny. No good song though.
- 52:49I think of Jenny every time I hear that song.
- 52:52And then, last but not least, Sunday morning sunshine.
- 52:57Yes. Hey, all right.
- 53:02That was the song I danced with my mother too, at our wedding
- 53:06done by Frank. All right, these.
- 53:10Twos are getting brutal but. Yeah.
- 53:12We have three at this point. So Chris, you will have the
- 53:17final say. Thankfully it will not be on my.
- 53:19Show Hey, dumping out my last two were Six String Orchestra.
- 53:26That was hard to cut. Again, one of his fun songs.
- 53:30And a dance band on the Titanic. That one was hard for me to cut,
- 53:34too. All right.
- 53:37Boom, boom and boom. Now this, this went, you know,
- 53:43exactly as I pretty much thought it would.
- 53:45You know, like there's there's just a lot here.
- 53:49I mean, so the three that we got through unanimous, Mr. Tanner.
- 53:53Dreams go by and story of a life.
- 53:56Oh, Jesus. I didn't even realize it was
- 53:58this bad. 17. So many.
- 54:01That we need to. So many twos.
- 54:05Ohh boy. OK, alright, I'll, I'll, I'll
- 54:11give us a run down here and then I'll ask each of you if there's
- 54:15one. Like actually, you know what?
- 54:18There might even be ones where I was like I let time go lightly
- 54:24Wold stranger with the melodies. Odd job, man.
- 54:29I want to learn a love song. What made America famous?
- 54:34Empty taxi dancing boy. Poor damn fool.
- 54:41Whiter Little girls on the road to Kingdom come.
- 54:45Still so many more to go. Mercenaries Rock.
- 54:50Sunday morning sunshine. A better place to be.
- 54:55And flowers are red. So my first instant here is to
- 54:59go ahead and grab taxi. Unless anybody has you know any
- 55:05holdouts on that. Considering what we mentioned
- 55:07before, we don't, especially since we don't have cats in the
- 55:10cradle. This gives a little bit of
- 55:12notoriety to our list, sure. Yeah, OK.
- 55:16So that'll take us up to four now Chris, Is there one?
- 55:20That that's kind of jumping out at you is like, I can't believe
- 55:23we didn't get that one. I don't know why do little
- 55:33girls. I mean all of them.
- 55:34But I I I'd fight strong for why do little girls?
- 55:39All right. I was the odd man there.
- 55:42So unless there is firm objection from Marlene, we will
- 55:48take that one. That makes 5.
- 55:52Yep. And then so same question to
- 55:53you, Marlene, is there one that that you were looking at at like
- 55:56man, I can't believe it. Do I only get one?
- 56:00I mean we have still got like. Five left.
- 56:02I think so, yeah. A better place to be, I think,
- 56:07yeah. OK, again, I think that was when
- 56:10I was off. I didn't.
- 56:13I underthought the room this go round usually.
- 56:17Yeah. Usually I overthink the room.
- 56:21All right. So that gets us up to six.
- 56:25So as opposed to knocking ones out, is there anything really
- 56:33jumping out at you still like as far as this, we can't do this
- 56:39list without it? I mean, I don't know.
- 56:47I would say either stranger with melodies or what made America
- 56:50famous. Yeah, if you wanted to keep one
- 56:55of the longer story songs back on the list, yeah, one of those
- 57:02two for sure. Do you have an inclination?
- 57:06Don't ask me to make a preference, I.
- 57:08Can't make a preference there either.
- 57:09I can't make a choice there either.
- 57:11Justin, it's up to you. Well, so let me ask you this, is
- 57:13that an either or situation because we have the room.
- 57:19What's on the list so far? All right.
- 57:22Let's see what? So we got Mr. Tanner.
- 57:24Dreams go by Story of a life taxi.
- 57:27Why do little girls And a better place to be
- 57:43So we've got room for. Three more before Chris's final
- 57:47say. Okay.
- 57:50I think The Rock needs to be on there because it's one of the
- 57:52darker ones and I like to show the range all.
- 57:57Right. I can get with it.
- 58:02All right. So I think we keep coming back
- 58:07to this is it. Because we can make this clean
- 58:11and easy and take both strangers with the melodies and what made
- 58:15America famous. And then Chris has his final
- 58:18say. Or we can take one or the other
- 58:21and have a conversation to figure out what Song 9 is.
- 58:30Well, I. I don't want to.
- 58:42I guess the next question would be, is there anything that's
- 58:44kind of we're kind of looking at that is still alive and it's
- 58:48like, you know, this song is probably just happy that it's
- 58:50still here? Like, I feel that way.
- 58:55And again, it's not that it's a bad song, but it's not a hairy
- 58:58Chapin song. Is Let Time go lightly.
- 59:00OK, like it's something. Great song, but yeah.
- 59:08If people do as I said and listen to that album, they'll
- 59:11hear it and go, wow, this is a great song.
- 59:14He came from a talented fucking family and he did the his
- 59:17brothers still play so. Do we give any credence to
- 59:22mercenaries being a song that I had and you thought that I would
- 59:27have like, does that give it any weight or is that just
- 59:30happenstance and? It actually, that's That's a
- 59:34good argument, actually. But you could also say the same
- 59:39for WWLD that you and Marlene both had, yeah?
- 59:48Now you also said. Obviously I would go over.
- 59:52No, go ahead, Marlene. If it was between mercenaries
- 59:56and Wold, I would absolutely fight for Wold over mercenaries.
- 1:00:01Right. As far as stranger with melodies
- 1:00:06versus. Made America famous.
- 1:00:10I can't make that choice. So just is it a both?
- 1:00:19Is it a both situation or? Well, no, because Wold belongs
- 1:00:24on the list too. Right.
- 1:00:25So it is a 11 again. All right.
- 1:00:28So I'll make the I'll make the call, keep what made America
- 1:00:32famous and then discuss. Mercenaries in Wld.
- 1:00:40All right. OK.
- 1:00:45OK. Let's see.
- 1:00:48Let us do the thing that never helps.
- 1:00:53OK. Yeah.
- 1:00:54Yes, because actually I can't even think of how mercenaries
- 1:00:56goes, so please do. My phone disconnected of course,
- 1:01:02at the important part. What did you think when you
- 1:01:07heard me back on the race? Crazy.
- 1:01:11What did the kids say when they knew it was their long lost
- 1:01:16daddy? So yeah, now that I think about
- 1:01:20it, like the argument is kind of the same, because if this is him
- 1:01:25trying to do radio, that's. The place to be.
- 1:01:28That was, you know, basically the draw to it for me.
- 1:01:32Yeah. And then?
- 1:01:34When we get to Mercenaries. Mercenaries was the song you
- 1:01:36said. Justin might have this one.
- 1:01:55It reminds me of Sparks when the studio or the record label were
- 1:01:58like. You got to play some dance.
- 1:02:01Play something that people can dance to.
- 1:02:03So they wrote music that You Can Dance to.
- 1:02:06Same thing. Like play something we could
- 1:02:07play on the damn radio. So you wrote a song about being
- 1:02:10on the radio. So.
- 1:02:15Wold the reason we call it the thing that never helps?
- 1:02:34It's a slow motion night in the hot city.
- 1:02:45Lights. So something has to be said
- 1:02:48about pop sensibility. Since he doesn't do that, Wold
- 1:02:55has that pop pop sensibility. Like it's definitely not.
- 1:03:00Right. It's it's not an A pop song, but
- 1:03:03you know what I mean? Like it there is there is
- 1:03:07something slightly more catchy. Yes, all right.
- 1:03:14If I had to make a choice for somebody, like we want to get
- 1:03:18somebody into Harry Chapin, I would think the somewhat upbeat
- 1:03:23song about the DJ as opposed to the song about the soldier
- 1:03:27hooking up with a prostitute. It's probably a better choice,
- 1:03:35probably. I really enjoyed the song and I
- 1:03:37love what it says about, you know, war and shit, but it's
- 1:03:43heavy. Yeah, we probably catch more
- 1:03:45with honey than vinegar. Yeah.
- 1:03:50All right. So that'll bring us to our 9:00,
- 1:03:53which gives us, takes us to Chris, your final say.
- 1:03:58And as always, I prefer it be a song that's still alive.
- 1:04:01But you don't have to do that. I'm scrolling through the whole
- 1:04:05list to see if there's something that I want to bring back.
- 1:04:08I did put Dog Town in this list. I did put Dog Town on here.
- 1:04:11I think I just wanted you to hear it.
- 1:04:13I didn't expect anyone to pick it.
- 1:04:15I'm tempted to throw like babysitter on there about the 16
- 1:04:18year old babysitter who hooks up with the 12 year old.
- 1:04:21Sounds awful, but it's a really nice song.
- 1:04:23It's. Got bottom girls?
- 1:04:26Yeah. Do I put the 16 Minutes song
- 1:04:30from Dance band on there? There was only one choice I had.
- 1:04:35I really had a hard time cutting that song.
- 1:04:37But now let's see what we get on the list.
- 1:04:45Kept wide of little girls, right?
- 1:04:47That's already in. Better place to be?
- 1:04:50It's tempting. I don't want to use my wind to
- 1:05:02choose the rock though. It's a fine song, but.
- 1:05:06We've already got that already put that.
- 1:05:08Through we did keep it. Yep.
- 1:05:09Oh, OK All right. So you don't have to.
- 1:05:14Right, let's go with Stranger with the melodies all.
- 1:05:27Right. One of my favorite songs of his,
- 1:05:29It's a good song, said. It was a lullaby for my child,
- 1:05:34as weird as that sounds like. I don't know all the words to a
- 1:05:39lot of songs, but I know all the words to a lot of Harry Chapin
- 1:05:42songs. So that was one that she got.
- 1:05:45Bam. Just like that.
- 1:05:47We got her ten. Mr. Tanner, Mr. Tanner.
- 1:05:51Dreams go by. Story of a life taxi.
- 1:05:53Why the little girls? A better place to be the rock?
- 1:05:56What made America famous? Wold stranger with the melodies?
- 1:06:00All right. Now, Chris, let's turn the heat
- 1:06:04up yet again. Of those ten, which one is the
- 1:06:07one? Sorry, I was still looking at
- 1:06:13the list signing. I was almost going to go back
- 1:06:15and change my mind. But no, no, I'm not going to do
- 1:06:19that. I mean, it's not the one for me,
- 1:06:28but the one that like, is going to maybe catch people.
- 1:06:33I don't know, probably dreams go by like, again, not my favorite
- 1:06:42of all the Unanimous's. And something that's going to
- 1:06:45catch people's like, oh, this is a good catchy tune and oh, it's
- 1:06:49a good story and whatnot. That's a good argument for that.
- 1:06:53And what say you, Marlene? I think that if people are going
- 1:06:58to listen to the list, they're going to hear that anyway.
- 1:07:01And I feel like even though A Better Place to Be is my
- 1:07:09personal favorite, I feel like what Made America Famous is a
- 1:07:15more it's just a better song. It's actually has some.
- 1:07:24Meaning to it and commentary, and which is kind of what Harry
- 1:07:28Chapin is all about. So I kind of feel like what Made
- 1:07:31America famous should probably be #1.
- 1:07:34I can or I can't disagree with that.
- 1:07:38Nor can I, nor can I, so I'm with it.
- 1:07:43But do you have a different opinion?
- 1:07:44You're with it. I'm with it.
- 1:07:46Yeah, I'm with it. I think, you know, one of the
- 1:07:49things that Chris said in the intro was that, you know, that's
- 1:07:52an important part. Of Harry Chapin.
- 1:07:55So we have this one that has commentary to it.
- 1:07:59Let's let's do it. So what made America famous Is
- 1:08:07our number one. Mr. Tanner Dreams go by Story of
- 1:08:10a light taxi. Why do little girls a better
- 1:08:12place to be. The rock Wold strangers with the
- 1:08:15melodies round out our town. Let's let what made America
- 1:08:18famous Get its moment in the sun.
- 1:08:21Of course, seeing that dreams come to life on the mover screen
- 1:08:26while the plumber hopes that it won't be seen as it tries to
- 1:08:31hide its peers and it wipes away tears.
- 1:08:37But something's burning somewhere.
- 1:08:41Does anybody care? Yep.
- 1:08:48Excellent choice, Marlene. Love it.
- 1:08:51Volunteer Fire Department sitting around watching porn.
- 1:08:57We have done it. We have done it.
- 1:08:59Now when this is not, you know, I always say we did all the hard
- 1:09:03work for you and you know, some of them it's we condensed 4
- 1:09:07albums down to to 10 songs. We did the hard work for you
- 1:09:12here. You should be damn appreciative,
- 1:09:15kids. But we got you into Harry
- 1:09:18Chapin, You're welcome. So check that out.
- 1:09:21Get into them. As Chris said, there's those
- 1:09:23those live records. Go give those a spin.
- 1:09:27And if you dig that and dig this, you can go to
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- 1:09:44It's really that simple. You think you could do a better
- 1:09:46job? I'd like to see you try.
- 1:09:48I'd like to talk to you about whatever band it is that you
- 1:09:50love. I'm dead serious.
- 1:09:52I I wanna talk to you about your favorite band.
- 1:09:55And if it's a band we haven't done yet, you know, we will
- 1:09:59eventually get to it. You know, you can ask Chris.
- 1:10:02Two years, Yeah. This is Proof 2.
- 1:10:04Years in the making, but we got there.
- 1:10:07And then, you know, come, come play.
- 1:10:09That's all. That's all I can say about it is
- 1:10:11come play and you will have fun and it'll be a great
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- 1:10:35If you want to listen to Justin episodes, that's all of them,
- 1:10:37baby. You got to listen to me on all
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- 1:10:45I feel I think it's a great thing that you have to listen to
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