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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the program. This episode,
- 0:04we're picking up where we left off with the OIG
- 0:06report into Jeffrey Epstein's non prosecution agreement one Acosta's explanation
- 0:13for his decision to pursue a state based resolution. Subsequent
- 0:17events showed that the decision to resolve the case through
- 0:20state charges was pivotal, and OPR extensively questioned the Costa
- 0:25about his reasoning. In his OPR interview, Acosta explained the
- 0:29various factors that influenced his decision to pursue a state
- 0:32based resolution. Acosta said that although he, Sloman and Menchell
- 0:37believed the victims and believed Epstein did what he did,
- 0:40they were concerned about some of the legal issues and
- 0:43some of the issues in terms of testimony. Acosta also
- 0:47recalled discussions with the senior team about how the victims
- 0:51would do on the stand. Acosta told OPR that from
- 0:55the earliest point in the investigation, he considered whether because
- 0:59the state had indicted the case, the USAO should pursue it.
- 1:03The prosecution was going forward on the part of the state,
- 1:06and so here is the big bad federal government stepping
- 1:09on a sovereign state saying you're not doing enough, when,
- 1:13in my mind, the whole idea of the petit policy
- 1:16is to recognize that the state is an independent entity
- 1:19and that we should presume that what they're doing is correct,
- 1:23even if we don't like the outcome. Except in the
- 1:25most unusual of circumstances. Acosta told OPR that absent USAO intervention,
- 1:32the state's prosecution of Epstein would have become final, and
- 1:35accordingly it was prudent to employ petit policy analysis. As
- 1:40Acosta explained in a public statement he issued in twenty eleven,
- 1:44the federal responsibility in this unique situation was merely to
- 1:48serve as a backstop to state authorities to ensure that
- 1:51there was no miscarriage of justice. Furthermore, Acosta saw a
- 1:55distinction between a case that originated as a federal investigation
- 1:59and one that had already been indicted by the state
- 2:02but was brought to the federal government because of a
- 2:05perception that the state charge was inadequate. In the latter circumstance,
- 2:09Acosta viewed the usao's role only as preventing a manifest injustice.
- 2:15A Costa explained that no jail time would have been
- 2:18a manifest injustice, but it was his understanding that if
- 2:21Epstein had pled guilty to state charges and received a
- 2:25two year sentence to a registerable offense, it would never
- 2:29have come to the office in the first place, and
- 2:31therefore would not be viewed as manifest injustice. Acosta also
- 2:36told OPR that he was concerned that the federal prosecution
- 2:39in this case would result in unfavorable precedent because the
- 2:43Epstein case straddled the line between solicitation or prostitution, which
- 2:48a Costa described as traditional state concern, and trafficking, which
- 2:52has been an emerging matter of federal interest. A Costa
- 2:55intended that in two thousand and six, it would have
- 2:58been extremely unusual for any United States Attorney's office to
- 3:02become involved in a state solicitation's case, even when involving
- 3:06under age teens, because solicitation was the providence of state prosecutors.
- 3:11A Costa told OPR, I'm not saying it was the
- 3:14right view, but there are at least some individuals who
- 3:17would have looked at this and said, this is a
- 3:19solicitation case, not a trafficking case. Acosta was concerned that
- 3:24if the USAO convicted Epstein of a federal charge, an
- 3:28appeal might result in an adverse opinion about the distinction
- 3:31between prostitution and sex trafficking. Acosta also told OPR that
- 3:37he was concerned that a trial would be difficult for
- 3:39Epstein's victims. In Acosta's estimation, a trial court in two
- 3:43thousand and seven might have permitted victim shaming, which would
- 3:46have been traumatic for them. In addition, the fact that
- 3:49the state grand jury returned a one count indictment with
- 3:52a charge that would not require jail time suggested to
- 3:55Acosta that the state grand jury found little merit to
- 3:58the case. A Costa told OPR, I do think it's
- 4:02important to look back on this and try to be
- 4:04in the shoes of the thought process in two thousand
- 4:06and six and two thousand and seven, when trafficking prosecutions
- 4:10were fairly new, when more so than today, some jurors
- 4:14may have looked at this as prostitution, and a judge's
- 4:17tolerance for victim shaming may have caused more hesitation on
- 4:20the part of the victims. Finally, a Costa told OPR
- 4:24that a state based resolution offered more flexibility in fashioning
- 4:28a sentence because he believed prosecutors would have difficulty persuading
- 4:32a federal district court in the Southern District of Florida
- 4:35to approve a federal plea for a stipulated binding sentence
- 4:38that differed from the otherwise applicable federal sentence in guidelines Range.
- 4:43In summarizing his thinking at the time, a Costa told
- 4:46OPR the way the matter came to the office was
- 4:50the state wasn't doing enough. It didn't provide for prison time,
- 4:53it didn't provide for registration, and then you had the
- 4:56restitution issue. There were legal issues, there were witness issues,
- 5:00and we could go to trial and we may or
- 5:02may not prevail. Alternatively, we look at a pre indictment resolution,
- 5:07and at various points the office went back and forth
- 5:10between a federal pre indictment resolution and a state pre
- 5:13indictment resolution. Acosta told OPR that in the end, there
- 5:17was a preference for deferring to the state because in part,
- 5:21the facts of the Epstein case at the time appeared
- 5:24to constitute solicitation or a prostitution rather than trafficking, and
- 5:28a federal prosecution would be unchartered territory. Acosta explained that
- 5:33he did not view it as problematic to defer resolution
- 5:36of the case to the state, although as the Epstein
- 5:39case played out, the federal role became more intrusive than
- 5:42he anticipated because the defense tried to get the state
- 5:45to circumvent and undermine the outcome. Mentchell could not recall
- 5:49who initially suggested a state plea, but noted to OPR
- 5:52that his own emails make clear that this course of
- 5:55action was ultimately decided by Alex Acosta. He referenced, among others,
- 6:01at his May fourteenth, two thousand and seven email to
- 6:03Villa Fauna, informing her that Acosta was deciding how we
- 6:07wanted to handle the case. Menchell surmised that a state
- 6:10resolution accomplished two things that a cost of viewed as important. First,
- 6:15it resolved any petite policy concerns, and second, it afforded
- 6:19more flexibility in sentencing than a federal plea would have allowed.
- 6:23Menchell told OPR that the state plea proposal did not
- 6:26reflect any minimization of Epstein's conduct, and that any state
- 6:30plea would have to be an offense that required sexual
- 6:33offender registration. He told OPR, I don't think anybody sat
- 6:37around and said, you know, it's not a big deal.
- 6:39That was not the reaction that I think anybody had
- 6:42from the federal side of this case. Rather, Menchell said
- 6:45the concern was, if we charge them as proposed, there's
- 6:49going to be a trial. Two July two thousand and seven,
- 6:52Vila Fauna and Menchell disagree about the proposed state resolution.
- 6:57Vilafanna told OPR that she was angry when she Steve
- 7:00Mitchell's July email explaining that he had proposed to Sanchez
- 7:03resolving the federal investigation through a state plea. In Villa
- 7:07Fanna's view, the proposed state resolution didn't make any sense
- 7:11and did not correspond to Department policy requiring that a
- 7:14plea offer reflect the most serious, readily provable offense, and
- 7:18her view, a plea to a state charge obviously would
- 7:21not satisfy this policy. Vila Fauna told OPR that in
- 7:25her view, the u SAM required the USAO to confer
- 7:29with the investigative agency about plea negotiations, and Villa Fauna
- 7:32did not believe the FBI would be in favor of
- 7:35a state plea. Villa Fauna also believed that the CVRA
- 7:40required attorneys for the government to confer with victims before
- 7:44making a plea offer, but the victims had not been
- 7:46consulted about this proposal. Villafana told OPR that she had
- 7:51met with some of the victims during the course of
- 7:53the investigation who had negative impressions of the State Attorney's office,
- 7:57and she believed that sending them back to the state
- 7:59of Tixmejourney's office with something those victims would not support.
- 8:04In light of these concerns, Villa Fauna emailed Mentchel expressing
- 8:08her strong disagreement with the process. It's inappropriate for you
- 8:12to enter into plea negotiations without consulting me or the
- 8:15investigative agencies, and it's more inappropriate to make a plea
- 8:19offer that you know is completely unacceptable to the FBI, ice,
- 8:23the victims, and me. The plea negotiations violate the Ashcrofft Memo,
- 8:28the US Attorney's Manual, and all of the various iterations
- 8:32of the victim's rights legislation. Strategically, you have started the
- 8:36plea negotiations as though we are in a position of weakness,
- 8:39anxious to make the case go away by telling the
- 8:42defense that we will demand no federal conviction. We left
- 8:46the meeting on June twenty sixth in a stronger position
- 8:49than when we entered, and your statement that a state
- 8:51resolution would satisfy US takes away that advantage. If you
- 8:55make it seem like the US Attorneys doesn't have faith
- 8:58in our investigation, Epstein has no incentive to make a deal. Second,
- 9:03your discussion makes it appear that my investigation is for
- 9:06show only and completely undermines my ability to deal with
- 9:09Epstein's attorneys directly. I would like to make a presentation
- 9:13to the US Attorney Jeff Slowman, Andy Lori, and you
- 9:17with our side of the investigation and our revised indictment.
- 9:21The presentation will address the point raised by Epstein's council
- 9:24and will convince you all of the strength of the case.
- 9:28In the meantime, please feel free to direct all communication
- 9:31from Epstein's council to me. Menchell told OPR he realized
- 9:35Villa Fauna was very anxious to file charges in the case.
- 9:38Vila Fauna had put a tremendous amount of effort into
- 9:41the investigation, and Menchell was not unsympathetic at all to
- 9:44her desires to pursue a federal case. However, as Menchell
- 9:48told OPR, Vilafauna supervisors, including Acosta were trying to be
- 9:53a little more dispassionate, and her urgency was not respectful
- 9:57of Acosta's position. Menchell viewed the tone of Villafana's email
- 10:01as highly unacceptable and our understanding of applicable law and
- 10:05policy incorrect. In particular, Menchell pointed out that although the
- 10:09Ashcroft Memo requires prosecutors to charge the most readily provable offense,
- 10:15there is nevertheless room for flexibility, and that the US
- 10:18Attorney has discretion directly or through a designated supervisor such
- 10:22as Menchell, to waive the policy. Menchell's reply email began
- 10:26with the rebuke, both the tone and substance of your
- 10:29email are totally inappropriate, and in combination with other matters
- 10:32in the past, it seriously calls your judgment into question.
- 10:36As you all know, the US Attorney has not even
- 10:38decided whether to go forward with a prosecution in this matter.
- 10:42Thus you should have respected his position before engaging in
- 10:46plea negotiations along the same lines. Despite whatever country representations
- 10:51you made to the agents in this matter, it was
- 10:53made clear to you by the US Attorney and first
- 10:56assistant from the time when you first authorize to the
- 10:59investigation of mister Epstein, that the office had concerns about
- 11:02taking this case because of petit policy and the number
- 11:05of legal issues. Despite being told these things, you prepared
- 11:09a pro memo and indictment and included a definitive date
- 11:13for indictment. It has come to my attention that you
- 11:16led the agents to believe that the indictment of this
- 11:18matter was a foregone conclusion, and that our decision to
- 11:21put off the date and listen to the defense attorney's
- 11:24concerns is indicative of the office having second thoughts about indicting,
- 11:29as you well knew you were never given authorization by
- 11:32anyone to seek an indictment in this case. In the email,
- 11:36Metchell went on to explain the circumstances of his conversation
- 11:39with Sanchez and respond to Villafana's complaints. Lily, Sanchez called
- 11:44me before, not after the June twenty sixth meeting. It
- 11:47was an informal discussion and not in the nature of
- 11:49an official plea offer, but rather a feeling out by
- 11:52both sides as to what it might take to resolve
- 11:55the matter. As you were also well aware, the only
- 11:58reason why this office even agree to look into Epstein
- 12:01matter in the first instance was because of concerns that
- 12:04the state had not done an adequate job in vindicating
- 12:06the victims' rights, as you and the agents conceded. Had
- 12:10Epstein been convicted of a felony that resulted in a
- 12:13jail sentence and sex offender status, neither the FBI nor
- 12:16our office would ever have interceded. You should also know
- 12:20that my discussion with Lily Sanchez has made the U
- 12:23S Attorney's full knowledge. Have Lily Sanchez expressed interest in
- 12:27pursuing this avenue further, I certainly would have raised it
- 12:29with all the interested individuals in the case, including you
- 12:32and the agents. In any event, I fail to see
- 12:35how a discussion that went nowhere has hurt our bargaining position.
- 12:40I am also confident that no one on the defense
- 12:42team believes that the federal investigation in this matter has
- 12:46been for show. Nor are your arguments that I have
- 12:49violated the Ashcroft Memo, the u SAM, or any other
- 12:52policy well taken. As Chief of the Criminal Division, I
- 12:55am the person designated by the US Attorney to exercise
- 12:58appropriate discretion in discuiding whether certain pleas are appropriate and
- 13:03consistent with the Ashcroft Memo and the U SAM, not you.
- 13:07As for your statement that my concerns about this case
- 13:10hurting projects safe childhood are unfounded, I made it clear
- 13:13to you that those concerns were voiced by the US Attorney.
- 13:17Whether or not you are correct, matters of policy are
- 13:20always within his purview, and any decision in that area
- 13:24ultimately rests with him. Finally, you may not dictate the
- 13:27dates and people you will meet with about this or
- 13:30any other case. If the US Attorney or the first
- 13:33Assistant desire to meet with you, they will let you know,
- 13:36Nor will I direct Epstein's lawyers to communicate only with you.
- 13:40If you want to work major cases in the district,
- 13:43you must understand and accept the fact that there is
- 13:45a chain of command, something you disregard with great regularity.
- 13:49And just to interject here, it's funny they talk about
- 13:52the chain of command and then try and pin it
- 13:54all on Acosta. You see what they're doing here, right,
- 13:57and you see how the OIG let them off the hook.
- 13:59Villafana I acknowledged to OPR that as Criminal Division Chief
- 14:02Mentchell had authority to deviate from the Ashcroft Memo requiring
- 14:07that guilty please be the most serious, readily provable offense
- 14:11She disagreed, however, with the representation about her initial meeting
- 14:14with a Costa and Sloman regarding the Epstein investigation. Noting
- 14:18that Menchell had not been at the meeting, Villa Fauna
- 14:21told OPR no one had communicated to her the concerns
- 14:26Menchell mentioned and she had not been given an opportunity
- 14:29to respond to those concerns. A week later, at Villa
- 14:31Fauna replied to Menchell's email, reiterating her concerns about the
- 14:35process and the filing charges against Epstein and not moving forward. Hi, Matt,
- 14:41my trial is over, so I now have time to
- 14:43focus back on this case and the email exchange. There
- 14:47are several points in the email I'd like to address,
- 14:49and I also would like to address where we are
- 14:52in the case. First, I wanted to address the comment
- 14:54about jumping the chain of command. After that concern was
- 14:58brought to my attention several months ago. I have tried
- 15:00very hard to be cognizant of the chain of command.
- 15:03If there is a particular instance of violating the chain
- 15:05of command that you would like to discuss, I would
- 15:08be happy to discuss it with you. The statement that
- 15:11I have not respected Alex's position regarding the prosecution of
- 15:14the case demonstrates why you hear the frustration in the
- 15:17tone of my email. For two and a half months,
- 15:21I have been asking about what that position is. I
- 15:23have asked for direction on whether to revise the indictment,
- 15:26whether there are other issues that Alex wants addressed prior
- 15:29to deciding, whether there is additional investigation that needs to
- 15:33be done, etc. None of that direction has been forthcoming,
- 15:37so I'm left with victims and agents all demanding to
- 15:40know why we aren't presenting an indictment. Perhaps that lack
- 15:44of direction is through no fault of yours, but I
- 15:47have been dealing with a black box, so I do
- 15:49not know to whom I should address my frustration. My
- 15:53recollection of the original meeting with Alex and Jeff is
- 15:56quite different than your summary. In that meeting, I summarize
- 15:59the case in the State of Attorney's office handling of it.
- 16:01I acknowledged that we needed to do work to collect
- 16:04evidence establishing a federal nexus, and I noted the time
- 16:08and money that would be required for an investigation. I
- 16:11said I was willing to invest that time, and the
- 16:14FBI was willing to invest the money, but I didn't
- 16:16want to get to the end and then have the
- 16:18office be intimidated by a high powered lawyer. I was
- 16:22assured that that would not happen. Now I feel like
- 16:24there is a glass ceiling that prevents me from moving
- 16:26forward while evidence suggests that Epstein is continuing to engage
- 16:30in criminal behavior. Additionally, the FBI has identified two more victims.
- 16:35If the case is not going forward, I think it's
- 16:37unfair to give hope to more girls. As far as
- 16:40promising the FBI that an indictment was a foregone conclusion,
- 16:44I don't know of any case in the office where
- 16:46an investigation has been opened with the plan not to indict,
- 16:50and I never presented an indictment package that has resulted
- 16:53in a declination. I didn't treat this case any differently.
- 16:57I work with the agents to gather evidence and pared
- 17:00an indictment package that I believed establishes probable cause that
- 17:04a series of crimes have been committed. More importantly, I
- 17:07believe there is proof beyond a reasonable doubt of Epstein's
- 17:10criminal culpability. Lastly, I was not trying to dictate a
- 17:14meeting with the US attorney or anyone else. I stated
- 17:17that I would like to schedule a meeting asking to
- 17:19have the same courtesy that was extended to the defense
- 17:22attorneys extended to the FBI and an assistant in the office.
- 17:26With respect to your questions regarding my judgment, I will
- 17:29simply say that disagreements about strategy and raising concerns about
- 17:33the forgotten voices of the victims in this case should
- 17:35not be classified as a lapse in judgment. This office
- 17:39should seek the foster spirited debate about the law and
- 17:42the use of prosecutorial direction and discretion. My first and
- 17:46only concern in this case and my other child exploitation
- 17:49cases is the victims. If our personality differences threaten their
- 17:53access to justice, then please put someone on the case
- 17:56whom you trust more and who will also protect their rights. Meantime,
- 18:00I will be meeting with the agents on Monday to
- 18:02begin preparing a revised indictment package containing your suggestions on
- 18:06the indictment and responding to the issues raised by Epstein's attorneys.
- 18:11And if there are any specific issues that you or
- 18:13the US attorney would like to see addressed, please let
- 18:16me know. Villa Fauna did not get the meeting with
- 18:18a costa that she requested. She viewed Menchell's message as
- 18:21a rejection of her request to make a presentation to Acosta,
- 18:25and she told OPR that even though she regarded Sloman
- 18:28as a friend, she did not feel she could reach
- 18:31out even to him to raise her concerns. Menchell, however,
- 18:34told OPR that he did not order a Villa Fauna
- 18:37to refrain from raising her concerns with Acosta, Slowman or Laurie,
- 18:41and he did not believe his emailed to Villa Fauna
- 18:44foreclosed her for meeting with Acosta. Rather, the context of
- 18:48this exchange is she is running rough shot over the
- 18:50US attorney, and what I'm saying to her is there's
- 18:53a process. You're not in charge of it. I'm not
- 18:56in charge of it. Acosta's in charge of it. Acosta,
- 18:59who was apparently not aware of Villa Fanna's email exchange
- 19:01with Mitchell, told OPR that from his perspective, Vila Fauna
- 19:05was not frozen out of the case, and that he
- 19:08who would have met with her had she asked him
- 19:10directly for a meeting. All right, we're gonna wrap up
- 19:13right there, and in the next episode we're gonna pick
- 19:15up with b. Villa Fauna attempts to obtain the computer
- 19:19equipment missing from Epstein's pom Beach home, but the defense
- 19:22team opposes their efforts. All of the information that goes
- 19:25with this episode can be found in the description box.
- 19:29What's up everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
- 19:33In this episode, we're going to pick up where we
- 19:35left off with the OIG report into Jeffrey Epstein's non
- 19:39prosecution Agreement, Part B. Villa Fauna attempts to obtain the
- 19:44computer equipment missing from Epstein's pom Beach home, but the
- 19:47defense team opposes their efforts. As the USAO managers considered
- 19:53in July two thousand and seven how to resolve the
- 19:56federal investigation, one item of evidence they did not have
- 19:59a to assist in that decision was the computer equipment
- 20:03removed from Epstein's home before Palm Beach executed as search warrant.
- 20:08Although Villa Fauna took steps to obtain the evidence, defense
- 20:11counsel continued to oppose her efforts. Early in the federal investigation,
- 20:16Villa Fauna recognized the potential significance of obtaining the missing
- 20:20computer equipment. Villa Fauna told OPR that she and the
- 20:24FBI agents went through every photograph found in Epstein's home,
- 20:28but found none that could be characterized as child pornography. Nevertheless,
- 20:32Villa Fauna told OPR that the investigators had learned that
- 20:36Epstein used hidden cameras in his New York residence to
- 20:39record his sexual encounters, and she believed he could have
- 20:43engaged in similar conduct in his Palm Beach home. In addition,
- 20:47the computer equipment potentially contained surveillance video that might have
- 20:51corroborated victim statements about visiting Epstein's home. More generally, in
- 20:56Villa Fauna's experience, individuals involved in child deexisloitation often possessed
- 21:02child pornography. Villa Fauna's co counsel, who had substantial experience
- 21:08prosecuting child pornography cases, similarly told OPR Epstein was a billionaire.
- 21:13We knew his house was wired with video. It would
- 21:15be unusual for someone with his capabilities not to be
- 21:19video recording his encounters. As the investigation continued, Villa Fauna
- 21:24took various steps to acquire the computer equipment removed from
- 21:27Epstein's Palm Beach residence, as noted previously in this report.
- 21:31In her initial request to Epstein's Council for documents. She
- 21:35asked Defense counsel to provide the computer's hard drives, CPUs,
- 21:39and any other computer media including CD ROMs, DVD's, floppy discs,
- 21:44flash drives, et cetera, removed from the residents. Although Lori
- 21:48subsequently narrowed the government's request for documents, the request for
- 21:52computer equipment remained. The Defense, however, failed to comply with
- 21:56the request. Villa Fauna learned the computer equipment was in
- 22:00the possession of a particular individual. After consulting Department Computer
- 22:05Crime and Intellectual Property Section and Office of Enforcement Operations
- 22:09about the appropriate legal steps to obtain the computer equipment,
- 22:13Villa Fauna described her plan in an email dimension She
- 22:16asked Menchell for any comments or concerns, but OPR did
- 22:21not find an email response from him, and Menchell told
- 22:24OPR that he did not recall Villafauna's efforts to obtain
- 22:27the computer equipment. In May two thousand and seven, following
- 22:31the plan she had outlined to Menchell, Villa Fauna initiated
- 22:34action requiring production of the computer equipment by a particular date.
- 22:39In her email to Villa Fauna on June twenty ninth,
- 22:41two thousand and seven, Sanchez requested a two week extension,
- 22:45indicating that she had hoped the state based resolution to
- 22:48the case would soon be reached. Villafauna advised her supervisors
- 22:52of the request and responded to Sanchez that she would
- 22:56like to get the computer equipment as soon as possible. Nonetheless,
- 23:00Villafauna eventually agreed to the extension. Meanwhile, Epstein attorney Roy
- 23:06Black wrote separately to Villa Fauna demanding to know whether
- 23:09Villa Fauna had complied with applicable Department policies before seeking
- 23:14the computer equipment. After further communications on this issue involving Black, Sanchez,
- 23:19Villa Fauna, and Lori Black took legal action that effectively
- 23:23halted production of the computer equipment to the USAO until
- 23:26the issue could be decided by the court, which is
- 23:29explained below. Never happened because the parties entered into the
- 23:33NPA CE July two thousand and seven. The Defense continues
- 23:38its efforts to stop the federal investigation. In addition to
- 23:42their efforts to stop the government from obtaining the computer equipment,
- 23:45Defense Council also set letters to the USAO dated July sixth,
- 23:49two thousand seven, and July twenty fifth, two thousand seven,
- 23:53reiterating their objections to a federal investigation of Epstein. The
- 23:57July twenty fifth, two thousand seven letter included a lengthy
- 24:01case analysis chart purporting to support the defense argument that
- 24:05Epstein had committed no federal offense. The July twenty fifth
- 24:09letter also noted that the defense had been consulting with
- 24:12former Principal Deputy Chief of CEOs, reporting that she supports
- 24:17our position without reservation that this is not a matter
- 24:20upon which the federal statutes should be brought to bear.
- 24:23While the defense was reiterating its objections to the federal investigation,
- 24:28CEOs expressed its endorsement of Villa Fauna's legal analysis and
- 24:32proposed charges. On July eighteenth, two thousand and seven, CEO's
- 24:36chief Osterbahn emailed Slowman, Menchel and LORII, stating that he
- 24:41had read Villa Fauna's prosecution memorandum closely and noting that
- 24:45she did a terrific job. As we opined to Andy
- 24:48back in May, CEOs agrees with her legal analysis, her
- 24:52charging decisions are legally sound. Osterbon observed, I have also
- 24:56reviewed the arguments contained in the letters from Defense cont Council.
- 25:00Their legal analysis is detailed and comprehensive, but I find
- 25:04none of their arguments persuasive. That is not to say
- 25:07that all the arguments are completely devoid of merit. I
- 25:10expect the judge to consider some of the arguments closely. Nevertheless,
- 25:14while the law is applicable here is not always crystal
- 25:17clear the balance of available precedent favors US. From the
- 25:21prosecution memorandum, it's clear that Marie has anticipated the strongest
- 25:25legal arguments, scrutinize the applicable law, and has charged the
- 25:29case accordingly. And while with this prosecution the government clearly
- 25:33faces a strong and determined defense team, it's a challenge
- 25:37well worth facing. I also happen to know that there
- 25:40is absolutely no concern about facing the challenges this case presents.
- 25:45In closing, Osterbon renewed his offer to have CEOs help
- 25:49you with the prosecution and to send whatever and whoever
- 25:53you need to assist. D Acosta decides on a resolution
- 25:57that includes a two year term of incarceration. The next
- 26:01critical step in the development of the NPA was the
- 26:04decision to propose a two year term of imprisonment. Although
- 26:08presented to the defense as the minimum the USAO would accept.
- 26:12In actuality, the two year proposal became only the starting
- 26:15point for the negotiations, with the result that the Defense
- 26:19continued to chip away at it as the negotiations continued.
- 26:23The contemporaneous females make no mention of any rationale for
- 26:27the decision to propose two years as the government's beginning
- 26:30negotiation position, and nobody with whom OPR spoke was able
- 26:35to recall how the decision was made as discussed below.
- 26:38Acosta did offer OPR an explanation, but OPR was unable
- 26:42to find contemporaneous evidence supporting it. While the Defense was
- 26:47communicating its objections to the federal investigation to Villafauna, Lori, Menchel,
- 26:52and Sloman, Villa Fauna continued moving forward, filing charges. On
- 26:56July nineteen, two thousand seven, the day after receips ving
- 27:00Oster Bond's email supporting a potential prosecution, Villa Fauna email
- 27:04Louri and Menchell seeking approval to take further investigative steps
- 27:09regarding three Epstein assistance. However, Menchell directed Villa Fauna to
- 27:13hold off until we decide what course of action we're
- 27:16going to take on Epstein, which should happen next week.
- 27:20Menchell told OPR that he did not specifically recall why
- 27:23he asked Villa Fauna to wait, but he assumed it
- 27:25was because Acosta was deciding what course of action to
- 27:28take on the case. On Monday, July twenty third, two
- 27:32thousand and seven, Menschell submitted a resignation noticed to Acosta,
- 27:36stating that he would be leaving the USAO effective August
- 27:39sixth two thousand and seven. One July twenty six, two
- 27:44thousand and seven meeting in Miami. Early on the morning
- 27:47of Thursday, July twenty six, two thousand and seven, Villa
- 27:50Fauna inform Menchel that she was preparing a new draft
- 27:53indictment containing revisions he had suggested, including removal of all
- 27:58but three of the travel compunce and a large number
- 28:01of the overt acts, and the addition of overt acts
- 28:04and counts related to two additional victims. She would, not, however,
- 28:08have the revised indictment ready in time for our discussion today.
- 28:11At their two PM meeting, Menchell told OPR that the
- 28:15fact that he had both proposed revisions to the indictment
- 28:18and also directed Villa Fauna to delay the investigative steps
- 28:22involving the assistance. Indicated that he was trying to do
- 28:25something with the case, but was waiting for Acosta to
- 28:28decide the underlying issue of whether to proceed with federal charges.
- 28:32Acosta made the decision on or before July twenty six,
- 28:36two thousand and seven. On that afternoon, Villa Fauna met
- 28:39in Miami with Menchell. She told OPR that Slowman, as
- 28:42well as the FBI case agents and their supervisors were
- 28:46also present, with Lori anticipating and participating by telephone. Villa
- 28:51Fauna told OPR that she expected that the meeting requested
- 28:55by Mentchell would address the direction of the investigation. However,
- 28:58Villa Fauna told OPR that everyone had assembled, Menchell entered
- 29:02the room and stated that Acosta has decided to offer
- 29:05a two year deal. According to Villa Fauna, Menchell left
- 29:09the meeting after almost no discussion, Leavin Villa Fauna shocked
- 29:12and stunned. Menchell told o PR that he did not
- 29:15recall the July twenty six, two thousand and seven meeting. Nonetheless,
- 29:19he strongly disputed Villafana's description of events, asserting that it
- 29:23would have been directly at odds with his management style.
- 29:27To convene such a meeting, announce Acosta's decision, and leave
- 29:30without discussion. Acosta told o PR that he had decided
- 29:34and endorsed his resolution at some point, but he did
- 29:37not recall being aware that Menchell was going to announce
- 29:40the decision at the July twenty sixth meeting. In addition,
- 29:44although Acosta did not recall the circumstances of Menchell relaying
- 29:48of that decision, he said it would have been consistent
- 29:51with his decision for Menchell to do so. Neither Slowman
- 29:54nor Lourie recalled the meeting. The FBI case agent recalled
- 29:58attending a meeting but at the USAO in Miami with
- 30:01her co case agent and supervisors, together with Villa Fauna,
- 30:05Lori by telephone and Menchal Inslowman, at which they discussed
- 30:09how to proceed with the Epstein case. According to the
- 30:12case agent, at this meeting, the FBI insisted that Epstein
- 30:16be registered for life as a sexual offender, and the
- 30:19co case agent advocated for waiting until the court had
- 30:22ruled on the usao's ability to obtain Epstein's computer equipment.
- 30:27Regardless of exactly how Acosta's decision regarding the two year
- 30:30term was communicated to Villa Fauna and the FBI agents,
- 30:34and regardless of who initially proposed the specific term, the
- 30:38record shows that Acosta ultimately made the decision to offer
- 30:42Epstein a resolution that included a two year term of imprisonment,
- 30:46as he acknowledged. All right, folks, who are going to
- 30:49wrap up this episode here and then the next episode
- 30:51we're going to pick up with the subject's explanation for
- 30:54decision to offer Epstein a sentence with a two year
- 30:57term of incarceration. Of the information that goes with this
- 31:01episode can be found in the description box. What's up, everyone,
- 31:05and welcome back to the Epstein chronicles. In this episode,
- 31:08we're getting right back to the OIG report into Jeffrey
- 31:12Epstein's non prosecution Agreement, Part two, the subject's explanations for
- 31:18the decision to offer Epstein a sentence with a two
- 31:21year term incarceration. Villa Fauna asserted that she was not
- 31:26consulted about the specific two year term before the decision
- 31:29was made. Villa Fauna told OPR that she had worked
- 31:32hard to develop a strong case and none of her
- 31:35supervisors had identified to her any specific problem with the
- 31:39case that in her view explained the decision to extend
- 31:42an offer for a two year sentence. Villa Fauna told
- 31:46OPR that Menchell provided no explanation for his decision during
- 31:50the July twenty six, two thousand and seven meeting, and
- 31:53Villa Fauna did not ask for an explanation because she
- 31:56accepted his statement that it was a Costa's decision. Vilafauna
- 32:00described the proposal as random and told OPR where all
- 32:04sentencing guidelined people, so twenty four months just makes no
- 32:08sense in the context of the guidelines. There's no way
- 32:11to get to twenty four months with this set of offenses.
- 32:15Sloman also told OPR that he did not know how
- 32:18the decision to offer a two year plea offer was reached,
- 32:22but he believed that Acosta made the decision based on
- 32:25recommendations from Menchell, Lorii, and Villa Fauna. He opined OPR
- 32:30that the decision was likely based on an assessment by
- 32:33Menchell and LORII of the litigation risk presented by the case.
- 32:37Sloman added that he did not know how a two
- 32:40year sentence might have related to specific charges or to
- 32:43either state or federal sentencing guidelines. Lauri, likewise told OPR
- 32:47He did not recall how the two year term was
- 32:50decided upon or by whom, but he speculated that it
- 32:53may have been presented by the defense as the most
- 32:57Epstein would accept, and that the decision would have been
- 32:59reached by Acosta following extended consideration, research and discussion among Acosta, Sloman, Menchell, Louri,
- 33:08and Villafauna. Menchell told OPR that he did not recall
- 33:12discussing a two year plead deal with Acosta or who
- 33:15reached the decision that two years was an appropriate sentence.
- 33:19Menchell also told OPR, however, that he recalled believing that
- 33:23if the USAO had filed the contemplated federal charges, Epstein
- 33:27would have felt he had nothing to lose and undoubtedly
- 33:30would have chosen to take the case to trial. Menchell
- 33:34recalled believing that there was a real risk that the
- 33:36USAO might lose at trial, and in so doing, might
- 33:39cause more trauma to the victims, particularly those who were
- 33:43reluctant to testify. Menchell told o PR that he did
- 33:46not believe that anyone at the time looked at two
- 33:49years as a fair result in terms of the conduct.
- 33:52I think that was not the issue. The issue is
- 33:54whether or not if we took this case to trial,
- 33:57we would risk losing everything, and if we felt we
- 34:00could have gotten more time, we would have without having
- 34:03to press it to trial. A Costa told OPR that
- 34:07I had decided and endorsed the two year resolution at
- 34:10some point, and that it resulted from back and forth
- 34:14discussion over the course of some days or a week
- 34:16or two. As noted earlier in this report, A cost
- 34:19Of viewed the usao's role in this case merely as
- 34:22a backstop to the state's prosecution, which he explained to
- 34:25OPR was a polite way of saying encouraging the state
- 34:29to do a little bit more. A Costa said that
- 34:31he understood two years' imprisonment to have represented the sentence
- 34:35Epstein faced under one of the original charges the pom
- 34:39Beach Police was considering at the outset of the state investigation.
- 34:43A Costa also told OPR that he understood that the
- 34:47pom Beach Police Department would not have asked the FBI
- 34:50to investigate Epstein if the state had pursued the appropriate charges.
- 34:54In other words, in a Costa's view, this was rightly
- 34:57or wrongly an analysis that distinguished between what is necessary
- 35:01to prevent manifest injustice versus what is the appropriate federal
- 35:05outcome to that? A. Costa told OPR that he believed
- 35:09he had discussed his concerns about the case with Lori
- 35:12Slowman or Menchell, although he could not recall any specific
- 35:16conversations with them. He Villa Fauna drafts a term sheet
- 35:20listing the requirements of a potential agreement with the Defense.
- 35:24A meeting with defense counsel was scheduled for Tuesday, July
- 35:27thirty first, two thousand and seven. Villa Fauna told OPR
- 35:31that between July twenty six and July thirtieth, two thousand
- 35:35and seven, she had some sort of discussion with her
- 35:37supervisors that resulted in her creation of a term sheet
- 35:41identifying the proposed terms for resolving the federal investigation through
- 35:45state charges. Sometime during that period, Villa Fauna left a
- 35:49voicemail message for Menchell. During the OPR interviews, neither Villa
- 35:53Fauna nor Menchell could recall what Villa Fauna said in
- 35:56that message. On July thirtieth, two thousand and seven, Menchell
- 36:00emailed Villa Fauna, I received your voicemail this morning. I
- 36:03don't see any reason to change your approach, I think
- 36:06telling them that unless the State resolves this in a
- 36:08way that appropriately vindicates our interests and the interests of
- 36:11the victims, we will seek federal charges conveys that were serious.
- 36:16While Lily Sanchez is represented in the past that this
- 36:19would likely not happen, I never conveyed it in quite
- 36:22these terms before. In any event, this is the course
- 36:25of action that the US Attorney feels comfortable taking at
- 36:28this juncture. The following day, July thirty first, two thousand
- 36:32and seven, Vila Fauna email the one page terms of
- 36:35Epstein's non prosecution agreement to Slowman Menchell and Lori. Vilafauna
- 36:40told OPR she had never before seen or heard of
- 36:42a non prosecution agreement, that it was a concept completely
- 36:46foreign to her. Villafauna told OPR that the idea of
- 36:50styling the two years state plea agreement with Epstein as
- 36:53a non prosecution agreement came from Acosta, although Menchell may
- 36:57have communicated that terminology tour. According to Villafauna, she asked
- 37:01that it include a mechanism for the victims to be
- 37:04provided monetary compensation through US Code eighteen, Section twenty two
- 37:09fifty five in lieu of the restitution that would have
- 37:11been available if Epstein were pleading guilty to federal charges.
- 37:16A Costa told OPR that he developed and approved the
- 37:19term sheet before the document was presented to Defense Council.
- 37:23Two terms were dropped from Villa Fauna's draft, one providing
- 37:26that the agreement would apply only to already identified victims,
- 37:30and another requiring the deal to be accepted and Epstein
- 37:33to plead guilty within the month. The final term sheet
- 37:36was as follows. Terms of Epstein's non prosecution agreement. Epstein
- 37:40pleads guilty to an information filed by the Palm Beach
- 37:44County State Attorney's Office charging him with a lewd and
- 37:47lascivious battery on a child in violation of Florida Statute
- 37:51eight hundred Dos zero four to four B solicitation of
- 37:55miners to engage in prostitution in violation of Florida Statute
- 37:59seven ninety six three n see engaging in sexual activity
- 38:03with miners at least sixteen years of age in violation
- 38:07of Florida Statute seven ninety four dot five. Epstein and
- 38:11the State Attorney's Office make a joint binding recommendation that
- 38:14Epstein serve at least two years in prison, without any
- 38:17opportunity for withholding, adjudication or sentencing, and without probation or
- 38:22community control. In lieu of imprisonment, Epstein agrees to waive
- 38:27all challenges to the information filed by the state and
- 38:29the right to appeal. Epstein agrees that if any of
- 38:32the victims identified in the federal investigation file suit pursuant
- 38:37to US Code eighteen, Section twenty two fifty five, Epstein
- 38:40will not contest the jurisdiction of the U s District
- 38:43Court for the Southern District of Florida over his person
- 38:47and subject matter. While Epstein will not contest the identified
- 38:50victims are persons who, while miners, were victims of violations
- 38:54of Title eighteen United States Code, Section twenty four to
- 38:58twenty two and or twenty four or twenty three. After
- 39:02Epstein enters the state court plea and dissentans, the FBI
- 39:05and the US Attorney's Office will close their investigation. The
- 39:09USAO presents Epstein with key terms of a deal. Plead
- 39:13guilty to state charges requiring a two year term of
- 39:15incarceration and sexual offender registration, and agree to a means
- 39:20for the victims to obtain monetary damages. Although the USAO
- 39:24term sheet was presented to Epstein's defense team on July
- 39:27thirty one, two thousand and seven, it took almost another
- 39:30two months to reach a final agreement in the form
- 39:33of the NPA. The contemporaneous emails show that over the
- 39:37course of those two months, defense council offered multiple counterproposals
- 39:41to the USAO stated terms, and alternated between working out
- 39:45the state plead disposition and seeking an alternative federal plea agreement.
- 39:50The emails may clear that as the negotiations intensified in
- 39:54September of two thousand and seven, the prosecutors became increasingly frustrated,
- 39:58particularly with what the they perceived as the defense tactic
- 40:02of agreeing to terms and provisions, but then backtracking or
- 40:05altering the agreed upon terms in subsequent communications. It's apparent
- 40:10that the defense persistence achieved some measure of success, at
- 40:14least concerning the period of imprisonment, because the USAO failed
- 40:18the whole firm to its proposal of at least two
- 40:20years in prison. The USAO did, however, consistently reject defense
- 40:25proposals to change other terms, particularly the requirement that Epstein
- 40:29register as a sexual offender. A July thirty first, two
- 40:35thousand and seven, the USAO presents its proposal to the
- 40:38defense team, which makes a counteroffer. Menchell, Slowman, Lori, Villafauna,
- 40:43and the case agents met with Epstein's attorneys left Court, Sanchez,
- 40:46and Black on July thirty first, two thousand and seven,
- 40:50with Menchell leading the meeting for the USAO. The USAO
- 40:53presented the term sheet, and Villafauna distributed a federal sentencing
- 40:57guideline calculation showing that if she prosecuted federally, Epstein faced
- 41:02the sentencing range of one hundred and eighty eight to
- 41:04two hundred and thirty five months of incarceration. Bilafana recalled
- 41:08that during the meeting, Epstein's attorneys opposed the requirement of
- 41:12sexual offender registration, argued that Epstein would not be safe
- 41:16in prison, suggested that Epstein serve a sentence of home
- 41:19confinement or community control in lieu of incarceration, and emphasized
- 41:24that a state resolution provided greater sentencing flexibility. Bilafauna told
- 41:29OPR that when Epstein's attorneys expressed concern during the meeting
- 41:32about Epstein's security in the state prison and argued for
- 41:35a home confinement sentence. Menchell suggested Epstein plead to a
- 41:39federal charge so that he could serve his time in
- 41:41a federal facility. A few days after the meeting, Villa
- 41:44Fauna emailed Menchell stating that she had figured out a
- 41:47way to do a federal plea with two and a
- 41:50half year cap although Acosta had authorized a plea to
- 41:54state charges. Emails and other correspondents show that during negotiations
- 41:58the parties also considered structuring a plea around federal charges
- 42:02in addition to the state charges. On behalf of the
- 42:05defense team, Sanchez followed up on July thirty first, two
- 42:09thousand and seven meeting with an August second, two thousand
- 42:12and seven letter de Menschell, we welcome your recognition that
- 42:16a state prison sentence is neither appropriate nor acceptable to
- 42:19mister Epstein, as the dangers of state prison system pose
- 42:22risks that are clearly untenable. We acknowledge that your suggestion
- 42:26of a plea to two federal misdemeanors was an attempt
- 42:29to resolve this dilemma. Our proposal is significantly punitive, and
- 42:34if implemented, would, we believe, leave little doubt that the
- 42:37federal interest was demonstrably vindicated. Sanchez added, we must keep
- 42:41in mind that Jeffrey Epstein is a fifty four year
- 42:44old man who has never been arrested before. He has
- 42:46lived in otherwise exemplary life. The significantly punitive proposal described
- 42:52in the defense letter involved no period of mandatory incarceration. Instead,
- 42:56Sanchez suggested two years of home confinement with regular reporting
- 43:01to the visits from any community control officer, payment of
- 43:05restitution damages, court and probationary costs and law enforcement costs,
- 43:09random drug testing, community service, psychological counseling, and the prohibition
- 43:15on unsupervised contact with the victims. The letters specifically referred
- 43:19to the victim damages recovery procedure and the government had
- 43:22proposed under US Code eighteen, section twenty two to fifty five,
- 43:26and represented that Epstein was prepared to fully fund the
- 43:29identified group of victims which are the focus of the USAO,
- 43:33that is, the twelve individuals noted at the meeting on
- 43:36July thirty one, two thousand and seven. Under the defense proposal,
- 43:40the state would incarcerate Epstein only if he failed to
- 43:43comply with the terms of supervised custody. Sanchez also advised
- 43:47that the defense team would be seeking a meeting with
- 43:50a costa. All right, we're going to wrap up right there,
- 43:53and in the next episode, we're going to pick up
- 43:55with part B. In an August third, two thousand and
- 43:58seven letter, the USAO states that a two year term
- 44:01of imprisonment is the minimum that will vindicate the federal interest.
- 44:05All of the information that goes with this episode can
- 44:08be found in the description box. What's up, everyone, and
- 44:12welcome back to the Epstein chronicles. In this episode, we're
- 44:16getting right back to the OIG report into Jeffrey Epstein's
- 44:20non prosecution agreement B. In an August third, two thousand
- 44:25and seven letter, the USAO states that a two year
- 44:28term of imprisonment is the minimum that will vindicate the
- 44:31federal interest. Villa Fauna told OPR that she and her
- 44:35managers agreed the counter offer was unacceptable, and she conferred
- 44:39with Lori or Menchel about the government's response. Villa Fauna
- 44:43drafted for mental signature a letter asserting that the USAO
- 44:48considered a two year term of imprisonment to be the
- 44:51minimum sentence that would vindicate the federal interest in the
- 44:54Epstein investigation. Villa Fauna's draft stated that the USAO has
- 44:59never agreed that a state prison sentence is not appropriate
- 45:02for mister Epstein, but was willing to allow Epstein to
- 45:05enter a guilty plea under a federal Rule of Criminal
- 45:08Procedure eleven C one C to a federal felony charge
- 45:13with a binding recommendation for a two year term of incarceration.
- 45:17Vilafauna specified that Epstein would also be required to concede
- 45:21liability under US Code eighteen, section twenty two fifty five
- 45:25for all of the victims identified during the federal investigation,
- 45:29not just the twelve that formed the basis of an
- 45:32initial plan charging instrument. Menchell made several substantive changes to
- 45:37Villafauna's draft letter. He specified that a two year term
- 45:41of state imprisonment was the minimum sentence that would satisfy
- 45:44the federal interest in the case. With regard to the
- 45:48option of a federal plea, Menchell wrote that the USAO
- 45:52would be willing to explore a federal conviction and retain
- 45:55the reference to a Rule eleven C plea. Menchell also
- 45:59removed the rect reference to the specific state offenses to
- 46:02which Epstein would be required to plead guilty Menchell forwarded
- 46:06the redraft to Acosta, suggesting that they speak about it
- 46:09the next morning, as well as the Sloman, Lori and
- 46:13Villa Fauna. The final letter is shown on the following pages,
- 46:17was identical to Menchell's redraft, except that it omitted all
- 46:21reference to a federal plea under Rule eleven C. Menchell
- 46:25told OPR that, in his view, the two year sentence
- 46:28established the floor for negotiations, and if Epstein rejected the offer,
- 46:33subsequent offers would require him to accept more jail time
- 46:36rather than less. Menchell told o PR that the USAO
- 46:40was leaving our options open by retaining the option of
- 46:43a federal plea because he thought the defense was trying
- 46:47to get him into a federal penitentiary. The letter's deadline
- 46:51of August seventeenth, two thousand and seven for acceptance of
- 46:54the government's offer was intended to accommodate Villa Fauna's requests
- 46:58that the deadline provide her with enough time to go
- 47:01to New York pursue investigative steps involving two of Epstein's
- 47:04assistants to witness interviews and take additional legal steps to
- 47:08obtain Epstein's computers. If Epstein rejected the deal. Menchell told
- 47:13LOPR that he considered August seventeenth to be a firm deadline.
- 47:17If you tell someone they have two weeks, it should
- 47:19be two weeks. Menchell signed and sent the letter on Friday,
- 47:23August third, two thousand and seven, which was his last
- 47:26day as the USAO before joining a private law firm.
- 47:31The following Monday, August sixth, two thousand and seven, villa
- 47:34Fauna contacted Menchell by email at his new firm to
- 47:37inquire whether the letter to Epstein's council had gone out
- 47:40on Friday. Villafauna explained to the OPR she wanted to
- 47:44know whether the letter went out because if the letter
- 47:47didn't go out, we can make this all go away
- 47:49and restart. Menchell confirmed to her that he had sent
- 47:52the letter out by email. Later that day, the West
- 47:56Palm Beach FBI squad supervisor told Sloman that he understood
- 47:59it Epstein had rejected the usao's proposal, and he asked
- 48:03when Epstein would be charged. Vilafauna told o PR that
- 48:07the squad supervisor yelled at Slowman about the usao's decision
- 48:11not to prosecute Epstein federally. Sloman similarly told OPR that
- 48:16the squad supervisor, like Villa Fauna and the agents, felt
- 48:19very strongly about the case. See August through September two
- 48:25thousand and seven. Epstein hires additional attorneys, whom he with Acosta.
- 48:29One Acosta agrees to meet with Epstein's new attorneys. Villa
- 48:34Fauna told OPR that Epstein's team was incensed that Acosta
- 48:38would not meet with them and that the USAO had
- 48:41set such a short deadline to respond to its offer.
- 48:44Around this time, Epstein added to his team Kenneth Starr
- 48:47and Jay Lefkowitz, two prominent lawyers from the law firm
- 48:51Kirkland Ellis, whom Acosta knew from his employment decade earlier
- 48:56as an associate at the firm. On the evening of
- 48:59August sixth, too thousand and seven, Slowman email, DaCosta just
- 49:03saw Menchel. I didn't know Kirkland made a call into you.
- 49:06You were right, unbelievable. During their OPR interviews, neither Acosta
- 49:10nor Sloman remembered the call from Kirkland and Ellis and
- 49:14could provide no additional information about the contact or apply.
- 49:18Email from Acosta to Slowman indicates that Kirkland and Ellis
- 49:22attorneys were considering elevating to the Department their objections to
- 49:26the usao's involvement in the Epstein matter. In that email,
- 49:29Acosta stated they are likely to go to DC. We
- 49:33should strategize a bit. We are not changing positions, and
- 49:37that should be made clear. The next day, Acosta wrote
- 49:40to Slowman, Epstein's attorneys want to go to DC on
- 49:43the case on the grounds of a process fel and
- 49:46I have not met with them. I'm concerned that this
- 49:48will delay matters. I'm thinking of heading this off by
- 49:51one agreeing to meet to discuss general legal policy only
- 49:56in the matter in which DC has arguable jurisdiction, while
- 49:59making clear that we are not talking about the details
- 50:02of the case, and two asking CEO's chief Osterbon to
- 50:07participate by teleconference, thereby intercepting the DC meeting thoughts. Acosta
- 50:14told OPR that he had no concerns about departmental scrutiny
- 50:17of the NPA scheme, and that, if anything, he was
- 50:20concerned whether the Department might direct the USAO to drop
- 50:23the case. Two, leading to the meeting with Defense Council
- 50:27Investigative steps or postponed, and the defense continues to oppose
- 50:31Villa Fauna's efforts to obtain the computer evidence. On August eighth,
- 50:36two thousand and seven, Villa Fauna informed Acosta that she
- 50:39had spoken with Osterbon, who was willing to join a
- 50:42meeting with the defense. Although he could not do so
- 50:45in person until after August twenty first, he was willing
- 50:48to participate by a phone in order to stay firm
- 50:51in our August seventeenth deadline. Villa Fauna also reiterated that
- 50:56she wanted to contact Epstein's assistance in New York and
- 51:00to interview some of Epstein's colleagues and former employees there.
- 51:04Noting that there was some concern about taking the proposed
- 51:07investigative steps while we were trying to negotiate a plea,
- 51:11Villa Fauna asked Acosta for guidance. Laurie also emailed Acosta
- 51:15and Slowman, asking at the USAO stick to our deadline
- 51:18if possible. Laurie pointed out that CEOs has no approval
- 51:22authority and opined it was a bit extreme to allow
- 51:25the defense to keep arguing this case to different agencies.
- 51:29Acosta applied, this will end up at the Department anyhow,
- 51:33if we don't meet with them. I'd rather keep it here.
- 51:36Bringing the chief of CEOs in visibly does so. If
- 51:39our deadline has to slip a bit, it's worth it.
- 51:42As a result, the investigative steps were postponed. On August tenth,
- 51:46two thousand and seven, Villa Fauna emailed LORII, inquiring whether
- 51:50she could still go ahead with the New York trip
- 51:52and whether she could oppose Black's request to stay the
- 51:54litigation concerning the government's efforts to obtain Epstein's computer equipment
- 51:59until after Acosta's meeting with the Defense team. Villafana was
- 52:03reluctant to delay the litigation and reported to LORII that
- 52:07agents recently had interviewed a girl who began seeing Epstein
- 52:10at age fourteen and who was photographed in the nude
- 52:13by an Epstein assistant. On August thirteenth, two thousand and seven,
- 52:17Villa Fauna advised Black that the USAO was not willing
- 52:21to agree to a stay of litigation. However, Sanchez reached
- 52:24out to Louri on August twenty second, two thousand and seven,
- 52:27and obtained his agreement to a joint request for a
- 52:30stay until the week after Acosta's meeting with Defense Council,
- 52:34which was scheduled for September seventh, two thousand and seven.
- 52:37Villafana told OPR that, in her opinion, the defense efforts
- 52:41to put off the litigation concerning the computers was further
- 52:44evidence of the importance of this evidence. Villa Fauna suspected
- 52:48the computers contained evidence that would have put this case
- 52:52completely to bed. She believed that access to the computer
- 52:55evidence would strengthen the government's negotiating position, but that her
- 52:59supervisors did not seem to recognize that. Villa Fauna said
- 53:03that she did not understand why her supervisors were uninterested
- 53:07in determining what the computers contained. Instead, they instructed Villa
- 53:11Fauna to keep calling the judge to ask for a
- 53:13delay in the litigation proceedings. Slowman told OPR that he
- 53:17recalled an issue about the computers, but did not recall
- 53:21what the thinking was at the time about pursuing that
- 53:24evidence or why Villa Fauna was ordered to stand down. Acosta, Menchell,
- 53:28and Laurie all told OPR that they did not recall
- 53:31Villa Fauna's effort to obtain the computer evidence or that
- 53:34they had been in litigation relating to it. Laurie however,
- 53:38told OPR that the computers might have contained very powerful
- 53:42evidence that possibly could have changed our advice to Acosta
- 53:46or his decision making. In his OPR interview, Menchell was
- 53:49uncertain whether the computer evidence would have been useful, but
- 53:53also acknowledged the OPR you always want more as a prosecutor.
- 53:58On August thirty first, two thousand, in preparation for the
- 54:01upcoming September seventh, two thousand and seven meeting with Defense
- 54:05Council that he planned to attend, CEO's chief Osterbonn traveled
- 54:10to the West Palm Beach to meet with Villa Fauna
- 54:12and the case agents and examine the case file. He
- 54:15explained to OPR that he wanted to see the file
- 54:18before meeting with the defense so that he could best
- 54:21represent the interests of the prosecution team, and that he
- 54:24was in favor of going forward with the case. According
- 54:27to Villa Fauna, during his review of the file, Osterbond
- 54:30told her that the case was really good and offered
- 54:33to assist Villa Fauna at a trial. On September sixth,
- 54:36two thousand and seven, the day before the meeting with
- 54:39Defense Council, Slowman sent Villafauna an email asking please refresh
- 54:43my recollection, what is the deal on the table? Slowman
- 54:47told OPR that his question reflected the fact that in
- 54:50his capacity as FAUSA, he was involved in one hundred
- 54:54other things. At that time. Villafana sent Sloman the term
- 54:57sheet and explained to him, you and Matt Menchell and
- 55:00I had also discussed a possible federal plea to an
- 55:03information charging a three hundred and seventy one conspiracy with
- 55:06a Rule eleven plea with a two year cab but
- 55:09I think Matt must have asked Alex about it and
- 55:12was mixed. Villa Fauna continued, there are three concerns that
- 55:16I hope we can address tomorrow. First, that there is
- 55:18an absolute drop dead date for accepting or rejecting, because
- 55:22it is strategically important that we indict before the end
- 55:25of September, which means September twenty fifth. Second, the agents
- 55:29that I have not reached out to the victims to
- 55:31get their approval, which is Drew Osterband politely reminded me
- 55:35is required under the law. And Third, I do not
- 55:38want to make any promises about allowing Epstein to self
- 55:42surrender because I still believe that we have a good
- 55:44chance of getting him detained. Villa Fauna added that the
- 55:48pom Beach chief had alerted the FBI that an upcoming
- 55:51news article would report that Epstein was going to plead
- 55:54to a state charge, and that pom Beach chief wanted
- 55:56to know if the victims had been consulted about the deal.
- 56:00Slowman forwarded Villafanna's email to Acosta with a note that
- 56:04read simply FYI. Later that evening, Villa Fauna circulated to Slowman, Lori,
- 56:10and Osterbond two alternative documents, a draft Federal Plea Agreement
- 56:14and a draft NPA. The draft Federal Plea Agreement, following
- 56:18the USAO standard format, called for Epstein to plead guilty
- 56:21to a five year conspiracy under US Code eighteen, Section
- 56:25three seventy one to entice miners to engage in prostitution,
- 56:29an offense requiring registration as a sexual offender, with a
- 56:33Rule eleven C binding sentence of two years imprisonment. The
- 56:37draft NPA contained the terms presented to the defense team
- 56:40on July thirty first, two thousand and seven, and called
- 56:43for Epstein to enter a state plea by September twenty eighth,
- 56:46two thousand seven. Villa Fauna told OPR that because she
- 56:50had never seen a non prosecution agreement before, she replied
- 56:53on a template she found either using USAO or the
- 56:56department's internal online resources, but she did not do any
- 57:00additional research regarding the use of a non prosecution agreement.
- 57:04All right, we're gonna wrap up this episode here, and
- 57:07then the next episode we'll pick up where we left off.
- 57:10All of the information that goes with this episode can
- 57:13be found in the description box. What's up, everyone, and
- 57:17welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're
- 57:20picking up where we left off with the OIG report
- 57:24into Jeffrey Epstein's non prosecution agreement. Three September seventh, two
- 57:30thousand and seven, Acosta, other USAO attorneys, and FBI supervisors
- 57:35meet with Epstein attorneys Star Left, Kowitz, and Sanchez. On Friday,
- 57:40September seventh, two thousand and seven, Acosta, Slowman, Villa, Fauna,
- 57:44Villafana's co council Austerbond, and one or two supervisory FBI
- 57:49agents met at the usao's West Palm Beach office while
- 57:53defense attorney Sanchez and for the first time, Star and
- 57:56Left Kuwitz. This was Acosta's first meeting with Epstein's de
- 58:00defense team. Villa Fauna understood the purpose of this meeting
- 58:03was to afford Epstein's council an opportunity to make a
- 58:06pitch as to why the case should not be prosecuted federally.
- 58:11Villafana recalled that at a pre meet before a defense
- 58:13council arrived, Acosta did not express concern about the viability
- 58:18of the prosecution or the strength of the case. Acosta
- 58:21told OPR that the meeting was not a negotiation, but
- 58:25a chance for the defense to present their arguments, which
- 58:28were made by Star and focused primarily on federalism. Villa
- 58:32Fauna similarly recalled that the meeting mainly consisted of the
- 58:35defense argument that the Epstein case should remain a state
- 58:39matter in which the USAO should not interfere. Both Villa
- 58:43Fauna and her co council recalled that Starr addressed himself
- 58:47directly to Acosta, and that Star, who had held the
- 58:50Senate confirmed positions in the government, commented to Acosta that
- 58:54he and Acosta were the only people in this room
- 58:57who have run the gauntlet of the confirmation by the Senate.
- 59:00Acosta did not recall the comment, but he told OPR
- 59:04back in July, we had decided that we were going forward,
- 59:08that either there is going to be pre indictment resolution
- 59:11or we go forward with an indictment. The September meeting
- 59:15did not alter or shift our position. Villafana told OPR
- 59:19that after hearing the defense argument, Acosta reiterated that the
- 59:23federal interest in the case could be vindicated only by
- 59:26a state plea to an offense that required sexual offender registration,
- 59:31resulted in a two year term of incarceration, and was
- 59:34subject to the US Code eighteen, section twenty two to
- 59:37fifty five process for providing compensation to the victims. When
- 59:42Defense Council objected to the registration requirement, Acosta held firm,
- 59:46and he also rejected the defense proposal for a sentence
- 59:49of home confinement. In a subsequent email exchange with Criminal
- 59:53Division Deputy Assistant Attorney General Sigel Mandelker, who supervised CEO's offer,
- 1:00:00Terbaon reported that the meeting was non eventful, noting that
- 1:00:03Defense Council argued federalism and might approach Criminal Division Assistant
- 1:00:08Attorney General Alice Fisher to present that argument directly. Tour
- 1:00:13six September two thousand and seven, the plea negotiations intensify
- 1:00:18and the process the required term of imprisonment is reduced.
- 1:00:23Acosta had dispense with the August seventeenth, two thousand and
- 1:00:26seven plea deadline specified in Menchal's August third, two thousand
- 1:00:30and seven letter in order to allow the defense to
- 1:00:33meet with them. After that meeting, and although Villa Fauna
- 1:00:36continued to plan the file charges on September twenty fifth,
- 1:00:40no new plea deadline was established, and the negotiations continued
- 1:00:44through most of September. The defense used that time to
- 1:00:47push the USAO to make concessions. Because Acosta was not
- 1:00:51willing to compromise on the issue of sexual offender registration
- 1:00:55or providing a means through which the victims could seek
- 1:00:57monetary damages, the negotiations focused on the term of imprisonment.
- 1:01:02As the contemporaneous emails show, the USAO did not hold
- 1:01:06to its position that a two year term of imprisonment
- 1:01:09was the minimum that the USAO would accept to reach
- 1:01:12an agreement with the defense on Epstein's sentence. The USAO
- 1:01:16explored possible pleas in either federal or state court, or both,
- 1:01:20and Villafauna spent considerable time and effort working with Defense
- 1:01:24counsel on developing alternative pleas with various outcomes. In the
- 1:01:28course of that process, the agreement was revised to require
- 1:01:32that Epstein accept the sentence of eighteen months, with the
- 1:01:35understanding that under the state's sentencing procedures he would likely
- 1:01:39serve just fifteen months. A the incarceration term is reduced
- 1:01:44from twenty four months to twenty months. Shortly after the
- 1:01:48September seventh, two thousand and seven meeting, epstein attorney Gerald Lefcourt,
- 1:01:52who had not been present at the meeting, spoke with
- 1:01:55both Acosta and Lori and made a new counter offer,
- 1:01:58proposing that Epstein served fit fifteen months in jail, followed
- 1:02:01by fifteen months in home confinement. On the afternoon of Monday,
- 1:02:05September tenth, two thousand and seven, Villa Fauna emailed Slowman,
- 1:02:09identifying issues she wanted to discuss with them, including her
- 1:02:12concern that Defense Council was pushing for a resolution that
- 1:02:16would allow Epstein to avoid incarceration and possibly sexual offender registration.
- 1:02:22Villafana stated that Lefcourt's counteroffer was a reasonable counter offer
- 1:02:26in light of our starting position of twenty four months,
- 1:02:29but added that it was a really low sentence. Villa
- 1:02:32Fauna noted that the revised charges involved nineteen victims, so
- 1:02:36the defense proposal for a fifteen month sentence amounted to
- 1:02:39less than one month per victim. Villafana requested that whatever
- 1:02:43the US Attorney decides to do, the agreement with Epstein
- 1:02:46should follow a version of my written non prosecution agreement
- 1:02:50in order to avoid any state shenanigans and to keep
- 1:02:53the defense on a strict timeline. Later that day, Villa
- 1:02:57Fauna circulated to Acosta and Slowman a revised NPA that
- 1:03:01called for a twenty month jail sentence to be followed
- 1:03:04by ten months of home confinement. This redrafted NPA contained
- 1:03:09a provision that specified, with credit for gain time, Epstein
- 1:03:13shall serve at least seventeen months in a state correctional institution.
- 1:03:17Acosta reviewed the revised NPA and amended it to include
- 1:03:21a statement clarifying that it was Epstein's obligation to undertake
- 1:03:24discussions with the State of Florida to ensure compliance with
- 1:03:28these procedures. Villa Fauna's sent her version of the revised
- 1:03:32NPA to left court that afternoon and forwarded Acosta's proposed
- 1:03:36change to him the following day after she learned of it.
- 1:03:39On September eleventh, two thousand and seven, the court contacted
- 1:03:42Villa Fauna to inquire whether USAO had to be prepared
- 1:03:46to proceed with the litigation concerning the computers. The following day,
- 1:03:51at Sloman's direction, Villa Fauna asked the court to delay
- 1:03:54the hearing, and the court rescheduled it for the following week.
- 1:03:57At the same time, anticipating that please negotiations would fail,
- 1:04:01Villa Fauna circulated a revised indictment to her co council
- 1:04:05and Osterbon, seeking their feedback before sending it through the
- 1:04:09chain of command. Villa Fauna also sent Osterbon the revised
- 1:04:13NPA and told them she was still shooting for nine
- 1:04:16twenty five to bring charges assuming the defense declined the
- 1:04:20usao's offer. Osterbon responded, the counteroffering is unfortunate, but I
- 1:04:25suppose it's understandable. That afternoon, LORI asked Villa Fauna, what's
- 1:04:30our latest offer. Villafana responded, plead to the three specified
- 1:04:34state charges, a thirty month sentence split twenty in jail
- 1:04:38and ten in community control, and agree that the girls
- 1:04:41are victims for purposes of damages. We also put in
- 1:04:44deadlines for a plea and sentencing date. B September twelfth,
- 1:04:49two thousand and seven, the USAO and the Defense Council
- 1:04:53meet with the State Attorney. Although the USAO and the
- 1:04:56Defense Council had been discussing resolving the federal investigation with
- 1:05:00a plea to state charges, there is no evidence that
- 1:05:03the USAO involved the State Attorney's office in those discussions
- 1:05:07until September twelfth, two thousand and seven. On that day,
- 1:05:10Lori Villafauna and another USAO supervisor who would be replacing
- 1:05:15Lori as manager of the usao's West Palm Beach office,
- 1:05:19and Depstein's attorneys Lefkowitz, left court and Goldberger met with
- 1:05:23State Attorney Barry Krisher an assistant State Attorney Lana Bellhovlik.
- 1:05:28Other than Villa Fauna, few of the participants had any
- 1:05:31memory of the meeting or the results of it. The
- 1:05:33available evidence indicates that the USAO made additional concessions during
- 1:05:38the meeting. Villafana told OPR that during the meeting, the
- 1:05:42group discussed the draft NPA, but she did not think
- 1:05:46they gave a copy to Krisher and BELLOHOVLC neither Krisher
- 1:05:50nor Bellohovlk expressed concern about proceeding as the USAO was proposing.
- 1:05:55According to Villafauna, Bellohovlik explained that a plea to the
- 1:05:59three state counts identified in the draft NPA would affect
- 1:06:02the state sentencing guidelines, and it would be better for
- 1:06:05the guidelines calculation if Epstein pled guilty to just one
- 1:06:09of the three counts. Villafana recalled that when Bellohovlik confirmed
- 1:06:13that Epstein would be required to register as a sexual
- 1:06:15offender if he pled to any of the three charges, Lourie,
- 1:06:19speaking for the USAO, agreed to allow Epstein to enter
- 1:06:23his plea to just one state charge in addition to
- 1:06:26the pending state indictment, and the defense attorneys selected the
- 1:06:30charge of procurement of miners to engage in prostitution. Laurie, however,
- 1:06:35disputed Villa Fauna's recollection he made the final decision, stating
- 1:06:39that it was illogical to conclude that he had the
- 1:06:41authority to change the terms of the agreement unilaterally. During
- 1:06:46the meeting, the Defense Council raised concerns about Epstein serving
- 1:06:49time in state prison. Villa Fauna also told OPR that LORII,
- 1:06:54the other supervisor, and she made clear during the meeting
- 1:06:57that they expected Epstein to be incarcerated to twenty four
- 1:07:00hours a day, seven days a week, during the entirety
- 1:07:03of his sentence, and they did not particularly care whether
- 1:07:06it was in state or a local facility. Bellohovlik explained
- 1:07:10to OPR that in order for Epstein to serve his
- 1:07:13time in a county facility rather than stay at prison,
- 1:07:16his sentence on each charge could be no more than
- 1:07:19twelve months, so that, for example, consecutive terms of twelve
- 1:07:23months and six months totaling eighteen months could be served
- 1:07:26in the county jail. Villa Fauna told OPR our thing
- 1:07:30was incarceration twenty four hours a day. So during this meeting,
- 1:07:34I remember the defense talking about a one year account
- 1:07:37followed by a six month count that Epstein could serve
- 1:07:40them back to back, but at the county jail rather
- 1:07:43than having to go to a state facility. But then
- 1:07:45I said, if you do that, it's still going to
- 1:07:47have to be around the clock incarceration, and Barry Krisher
- 1:07:50said yes, and he said that to avoid Epstein being
- 1:07:54extorted while incarcerated, he would be kept in solitary confinement.
- 1:07:59Vilafauna didn't recall whether she and Laurie agreed to an
- 1:08:02eighteen month sentence during the meeting, but she told OPR that,
- 1:08:05in her view, allowing Epstein to serve as sentence in
- 1:08:08the county jail was not a concession because he would
- 1:08:11be incarcerated regardless. Neither Lori nor the other USAO supervisor
- 1:08:16president could recall any substantiative details of the September twelfth,
- 1:08:21two thousand and seven meeting, and Krisher and Bellohovlik told
- 1:08:24OPR they did not remember the meeting at all. Chrisher did, however,
- 1:08:28recall that he was not offended at all when he
- 1:08:30learned of the proposed federal resolution requiring Epstein to plead
- 1:08:35to both pending state indictment and an additional charge requiring
- 1:08:38sexual offender registration, explaining to OPR that Epstein was going
- 1:08:43to plead guilty to my indictment, we were going to
- 1:08:45add an additional charge, he was going to become a
- 1:08:48registered sex offender, and he was going to go actually
- 1:08:52due time, which he hadn't done up to this point.
- 1:08:55Chrisher asked, why would I turn that down? Krisher also
- 1:08:58noted that at that time, sexual offender registration was not
- 1:09:01the norm in Florida, and he recognized that it was
- 1:09:04clearly something that was important to the US Attorney's office.
- 1:09:08A Costa told OPR that he did not recall if
- 1:09:10he learned what transpired at the September twelfth meeting, nor
- 1:09:14did he recall why the USAO team agreed to permit
- 1:09:17Epstein to plead guilty to only one charge. A Costa
- 1:09:20told OPR, however, that he recognized that Villa Fauna and
- 1:09:23Lorie needed some degree of discretion to negotiate, that in
- 1:09:27the give and take of negotiations, they might propose a concession,
- 1:09:31and he was comfortable with the concession as long as
- 1:09:34the charge to which Epstein ultimately pled captured the conduct
- 1:09:38in an appropriate way. Although Epstein's attorneys expressed interest in
- 1:09:42Epstein's serving his time in a county facility rather than
- 1:09:46state prison, one of Epstein's attorneys alternatively expressed interest in
- 1:09:50Epstein's serving time in a federal facility, and along with
- 1:09:54discussions about the possible state resolution, the USAO and Epstein's
- 1:09:58council also discussed possible federal plea. With the sentence running
- 1:10:02concurrently to the sentence Epstein would receive on the already
- 1:10:05indicted state charge. Later that day, Villa Fauna sent Lefkowitz
- 1:10:09an email advising that she and Laurie had talked with
- 1:10:13Acosta and Slowman and they were all satisfied in principle
- 1:10:16with the agreement. The next day, September thirteenth, two thousand
- 1:10:19and seven, Vila Fauna sent an email to Acosta, Sloman, Louri,
- 1:10:23and two other supervisors identifying potential federal offenses that would
- 1:10:28yield a two year sentence. Villa Fauna also emailed Defense
- 1:10:31Council stating that she had been spending some quality time
- 1:10:35with Title eighteen, referring to the Code of Federal Criminal
- 1:10:38Statutes to make sure there would be a factual basis
- 1:10:42for any federal plea and identifying the federal statutes she
- 1:10:46was considering, all right, we're going to wrap up right
- 1:10:48here and in the next episode, we're going to pick
- 1:10:50up where we left off. And that's with See, the
- 1:10:53evidence does not clearly show why the term of incarceration
- 1:10:57was reduced from twenty four months to twenty months two
- 1:11:00eighteen months. All of the information that goes with this
- 1:11:04episode can be found in the description box