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The Price of Care, The Power of Purpose & The Michael Jackson Debate · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Gee, I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about
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  Speaker 1: me always start off checking in behind the scenes of
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  Speaker 1: the Grind, which is where we really take some time
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  Speaker 1: to check in on ourselves and just kind of like
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  Speaker 1: sit down.
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  Speaker 2: So I need it. Today.
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  Speaker 1: I'm coming off of running my mother around New York
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  Speaker 1: City because this is where she gets all of her
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  Speaker 1: skins and does all of her However, this time, and
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  Speaker 1: this happened to us last time as well, we've been
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  Speaker 1: having hiccups with Tourny Shurans.
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  Speaker 2: I've talked to you guys about that a bit.
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  Speaker 1: She was on The Breakfast Club on the podcast some
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  Speaker 1: episodes ago in our first season, because we are in
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  Speaker 1: our second season now, yeah, yes, okay, Like there was
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  Speaker 1: just so many things that were changing with my mom's
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  Speaker 1: insurance and I'm still getting used to the fact that
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  Speaker 1: she has this new assurance, So sometimes that's kickback.
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  Speaker 2: When we scheduled the whole thing.
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  Speaker 1: So what she actually came here to do was somebody
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  Speaker 1: skins just to check in on her cancer, make sure
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  Speaker 1: there are no new growth or any that we were
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  Speaker 1: at the doctor's office for about two hours before they
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  Speaker 1: even told us that they didn't have the right approvals
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  Speaker 1: from the insurance company. Have learned so much about these
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  Speaker 1: insurance systems and who pays who, who calls who for what,
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  Speaker 1: because when my mom was going through everything with chemo,
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  Speaker 1: because I wanted to get her better kids, they had
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  Speaker 1: better hospitals here for what she was dealing with, which
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  Speaker 1: was neurological issues with stroke and then cancer which also
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  Speaker 1: became something that was no logic as well because it
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  Speaker 1: spread to her brain from her lump. We've just we've
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  Speaker 1: always just been within that hospital. A little rocky at first,
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  Speaker 1: but they got it together. But yeah, now we're going
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  Speaker 1: through this whole thing here. There were a few Medicare
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  Speaker 1: programs that she was working with and then medicate on
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  Speaker 1: the back end of it, like she had like dual
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  Speaker 1: care to make sure because of how extensive house and
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  Speaker 1: with this new administration, things just changed, Like certain hospitals
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  Speaker 1: just wouldn't take the insurance that she had, and then
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  Speaker 1: they got rid of the plan that she was on.
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  Speaker 1: What the government was allotting to Medicare, it just didn't
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  Speaker 1: make certain things available, so we had to we're refiguring
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  Speaker 1: it all out in real time. And it's just crazy
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  Speaker 1: because well, you know, this new bill or you know
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  Speaker 1: whatever is going to do this when it comes to
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  Speaker 1: Medicare or Medicaid and like all of those things when
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  Speaker 1: I hear politicians talk about that, because in real time,
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  Speaker 1: it is a battle to like make sure that your
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  Speaker 1: insurances are good, your cover everywhere you need to go.
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  Speaker 1: You're getting everything that you need to get, like being
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  Speaker 1: an advocate, and imagine what it's like for people who
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  Speaker 1: don't have a me or like a daughter, a niece,
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  Speaker 1: a son, a husband or wife, just a family member
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  Speaker 1: or someone internally in the hospital who cares.
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  Speaker 2: And my mom's doctors say, look out.
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  Speaker 1: But this did slip through the cracks today and it
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  Speaker 1: just I don't know, it flipped our whole last couple
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  Speaker 1: of days around.
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  Speaker 2: So shout out to doctor Puma.
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  Speaker 1: We went over to Soaring Medical has this Soaring scam
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  Speaker 1: machine and it's a full body machine.
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  Speaker 2: And it's amazing.
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  Speaker 1: So I was like, Okay, while she's here, I know
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  Speaker 1: I don't want her to just like go back home
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  Speaker 1: and I get anything done just for my own you know,
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  Speaker 1: for my own nerves.
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  Speaker 2: I know it's time for a check in. Let's do
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  Speaker 2: the check in.
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  Speaker 1: I called something that I could send over to her
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  Speaker 1: doctors and they obliged.
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  Speaker 2: They were like, yes, we can do it.
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  Speaker 1: Literally, I think I text them at nine am and
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  Speaker 1: by one pm on that den Soreing Medical is amazing
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  Speaker 1: because they offer free skins like heart skins, and different
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  Speaker 1: services where they're not worried about your insurance and not
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  Speaker 1: gom all the time. This is for like everyday people
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  Speaker 1: as well who just need the help and they have
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  Speaker 1: you know, various locations. But they worked wondering, so they
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  Speaker 1: scanned my mom. Everything was good, So I'm feeling like
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  Speaker 1: I got something completed. But every time I go through
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  Speaker 1: stuff like this, I'm always feeling like just heartbroken for
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  Speaker 1: people who just don't have leaves them in their health
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  Speaker 1: and in their life.
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  Speaker 2: It it's just.
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  Speaker 1: So messed up the world that we live in and
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  Speaker 1: how people have to be in order to be okay
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  Speaker 1: within it.
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  Speaker 2: It's just not right.
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  Speaker 1: Talkd about things in the world and people and how
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  Speaker 1: they live through the world and how they're seen through
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  Speaker 1: the world. Michael Jackson and the Michael Biopic premieres today
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  Speaker 1: and theaters in Atlanta now for the Black Podcast Festival.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm going to go see it. And the reason
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  Speaker 1: why I'm going to go see it number one is
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  Speaker 1: because I mean, it's Michael Jackson, and everybody just wants.
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  Speaker 2: To see how the early reviews.
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  Speaker 1: That came from Rotten Tomatoes and you know, their early
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  Speaker 1: critics who got to review it. I'm interested to see
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  Speaker 1: it for myself and compare what I actually experienced. So
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  Speaker 1: we have a way of like we know what we're doing.
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  Speaker 1: We have a way of angling things and angling conversations
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  Speaker 1: to make it entertaining and to make it something that
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  Speaker 1: people want to hear about was done versus how much
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  Speaker 1: of those reviews were actually honest and basically what was
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  Speaker 1: happening was the Michael Jackson biopic had received Rotten Tomatoes,
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  Speaker 1: which is all you know, critics like it was like,
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  Speaker 1: you know a little bit over one hundred critics who
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  Speaker 1: were able to see the film after their Brilint premiere
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  Speaker 1: and right now and still not being reviewed well by
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  Speaker 1: critics because people are feeling like the film is.
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  Speaker 2: A bit empty.
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  Speaker 1: It should explore the darker side of Micha leagally free men,
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  Speaker 1: which would get into sexual assault allegations and you know,
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  Speaker 1: other things, and it doesn't. It had been reported that
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  Speaker 1: it was supposed to and because of like one of
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  Speaker 1: the cases that had actually been settled, Michael Jackson was
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  Speaker 1: not found criminally guilty for anything he settled out of
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  Speaker 1: a case with you know, even when he settled out,
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  Speaker 1: it was reported that it was like tons of millions
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  Speaker 1: of dollars that he had settled out for. It was
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  Speaker 1: reported that was between twenty million and twenty three million.
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  Speaker 1: January nineteen ninety four. Michael Jackson and his team made
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  Speaker 1: it very clear that this wasn't an admission of guilt.
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  Speaker 1: So they were supposed to be exploring that a bit
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  Speaker 1: and we're not. Director talked about the fact that it's
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  Speaker 1: not going to happen, in the fact that he just
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  Speaker 1: doesn't jump to believe everything in the c's or here's
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  Speaker 1: when it comes to us, you know, on Rotten Tomatoes,
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  Speaker 1: because in various countries the film is premiering and the
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  Speaker 1: fans like actual regular people, not just forty five percent.
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  Speaker 1: So there's a very big difference between what critics or
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  Speaker 1: you know, are having a conversation about when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to the Michael Jackson movie and from people who have
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  Speaker 1: seen it and people are reviewing it. From that, the
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  Speaker 1: court of public opinion seems to be a bit different.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm excited.
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  Speaker 1: To go and see it and just get a feel
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  Speaker 1: for the movie. Is Michael Jackson's relationship, which was, you know,
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  Speaker 1: always talked about very skewed with Diana Ross.
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  Speaker 2: So the actress.
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  Speaker 1: Who was playing Diana Ross came out and said via
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  Speaker 1: social media for taken out of the film. The actress
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  Speaker 1: her name is Kate Graham. She mentioned that it was
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  Speaker 1: cut due to legal considerations, but there's no further information
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  Speaker 1: on what those legal from prior reporting from various outlets
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  Speaker 1: that in other conversation and legal considerations, was this clause
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  Speaker 1: that was found where the Michael Jackson the Jordan Chandler
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  Speaker 1: case could not be depicted at all as a part
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  Speaker 1: of the settlement that they did.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm not for sure why we're not going to
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  Speaker 2: get anything Diana Ross.
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  Speaker 1: I know that really people to introduce the Jackson five
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  Speaker 1: to the world, and then her Michael Jackson as his
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  Speaker 1: career went on and he got older, grew to be
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  Speaker 1: very close. And I remember when I'm Michael Jackson to
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  Speaker 1: kind of get a feel for everything we might have
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  Speaker 1: seen in the film when it came to them. There
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  Speaker 1: was a nineteen eighty two Ebony magazine interview where he
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  Speaker 1: called Diana Ross the love of it, so she was
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  Speaker 1: like his lover, his mother, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, all wrapped up in one.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, so I don't know if maybe because you know,
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  Speaker 1: there was a there was an age difference between the
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  Speaker 1: two of all I know is that the Michael Jackson
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  Speaker 1: film is going to cover his life up until nineteen
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  Speaker 1: eighty eight, and I'm excited to see that. I know,
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  Speaker 1: Neelong and Coleman Domingo a lot of the darker side
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  Speaker 1: of MJ things in the film.
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  Speaker 2: Let's take listening.
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  Speaker 3: The film does stop in nineteen eighty eight, Yes, several
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  Speaker 3: years before the first child molestation allegations were made. And
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  Speaker 3: you know, we live in an environment now where we
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  Speaker 3: take survivors of sexual abuse, take their stories very seriously.
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  Speaker 3: What would you say the folks who see this they're like,
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  Speaker 3: you know what, they whitewashed that part. They didn't even
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  Speaker 3: include that part. How do you reconcile your performance with that?
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  Speaker 4: I think the film the film takes place, you know,
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  Speaker 4: from the six Stays to nineteen eighty eight, so it
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  Speaker 4: does not go into the first allegations of my two
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  Speaker 4: thousand and five. So basically we center it on the
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  Speaker 4: makings of Michael. So it's an intimate portrait of who
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  Speaker 4: Michael is.
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  Speaker 3: So it really just.
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  Speaker 4: I'm saying there is I is true.
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  Speaker 2: So that's what it is.
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  Speaker 4: So that's what this film is, and there's a possibility
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  Speaker 4: of it being a part two that they deal with
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  Speaker 4: some other things that happened afterwards. This is about the
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  Speaker 4: making of Michael, how he was raised, and then how
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  Speaker 4: he was trying to find his voice as an artist
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  Speaker 4: and be a solo artist, and then the movie. I mean, well,
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  Speaker 4: you know, that's what.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I have to say about that.
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  Speaker 3: But it sounds like there may be a sequel, could be.
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  Speaker 4: There could be could we don't know yet.
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  Speaker 1: Crisis right, So I'll be back in our next episode
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  Speaker 1: to answer the question, can you really tell a Michael
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  Speaker 1: Jackson full story without getting into those things that is
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  Speaker 1: just I just want to enjoy it as well too.
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  Speaker 1: I've heard that the performances are amazing throughout the film.
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  Speaker 1: I've heard that Jafar has done an amazing job portraying
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  Speaker 1: Michael Jackson, who is his ungodos. While you're there, If
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  Speaker 1: you're doing any reviews, let me know. Get out in
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  Speaker 1: I want to hear from you guys. We're doing you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean, and how y'all feeling about it? Now?
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  Speaker 1: I'm speaking of architects of culture and pop culture. Ms
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  Speaker 1: Tina Knows, the mother of Beyonce's Urge for producing some
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  Speaker 1: of the most talented women in the world, from Beyonce
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  Speaker 1: to Solona to the Destiny's Child. She was talking to
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  Speaker 1: Variety during a entertainment marketing conference. Let's listeners kind of.
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  Speaker 5: Knew that things were your jobs, but it also let
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  Speaker 5: you kind of re evaluate and give yourself real credit
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  Speaker 6: Yes, now, you know, it's funny because when I think
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  Speaker 6: back on my career and working with Destiny's child. I
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  Speaker 6: was doing everything out of necessity. It wasn't because and
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  Speaker 6: I didn't know I was producing. I didn't know I
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  Speaker 6: was creative director, and that term wasn't even a thing then.
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  Speaker 6: I was just doing what needed to be done and
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  Speaker 6: a lot of times never given credit for it. And
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  Speaker 6: I was okay with that. I actually liked hiding and
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  Speaker 6: being in the background. And I realized when I look
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  Speaker 6: back on it, that I was literally this country woman
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  Speaker 6: with this big hair from Texas, with this thick accent.
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  Speaker 6: And I would go into, you know, a TV show
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  Speaker 6: like the Tonight Show and have to fight with the
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  Speaker 6: lighting director and they'd be like, who this is somebody's mama,
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  Speaker 6: get her out of here, and they didn't take me seriously.
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  Speaker 6: But I would be a pest and I would say,
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  Speaker 6: I'm sorry, but you know, you got four black girls.
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  Speaker 6: You need more light on them. And they'd be like,
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  Speaker 6: who are you to tell me about lighting? But I
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  Speaker 6: was doing all these things and I didn't feel a
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  Speaker 6: new I guess I didn't feel like I was professionally trained.
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  Speaker 6: So I would just be okay with somebody kind of
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  Speaker 6: pushing me to the side, even though I bugged them
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  Speaker 6: enough to get it done. I never took credit for it,
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  Speaker 6: and so now I'm seventy two, and I'm like, you know,
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  Speaker 6: I was doing all these things. I was producing, I
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  Speaker 6: was directing, I was creative directing, and I feel really
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  Speaker 6: comfortable with it. And I'm just happy that I got
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  Speaker 6: to a point because it's something about turning seventy and
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  Speaker 6: you don't give a shit anymore excuse my French about
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  Speaker 6: what people think as much, and so you're able to
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  Speaker 6: take credit and so I'm really happy that that happened here.
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  Speaker 1: I always think about how I think you do your
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  Speaker 1: best work when there's like nothing attached to it, right,
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  Speaker 1: like when you're just like honestly want change your life
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  Speaker 1: or change your situation, or like when there's like that innocent,
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  Speaker 1: unjaded push to just like do something that feels you.
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  Speaker 1: Always think about, how can I like like not even think.
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  Speaker 1: I pray about this a lot, Like I always talk
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  Speaker 1: to God and pray that I stay in that space
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  Speaker 1: where like the fulfilling feeling of that not because of
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  Speaker 1: the amount of money I'm making, not because of the platform,
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  Speaker 1: not because of the followers, not people that I love,
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  Speaker 1: but also like just the fullness that it gives you
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  Speaker 1: when you're happy every day, when you're doing something that
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  Speaker 1: you love, Like that has always been my dream people
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  Speaker 1: strategy business, but like overall, I've always just been like,
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  Speaker 1: I just want to do something that I love. Like
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  Speaker 1: I grew up watching my mom as an entrepreneur, something
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  Speaker 1: she loved, she loved, you know, laying new tiles in
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  Speaker 1: her apartment building and decorating and bringing in tenants and
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  Speaker 1: providing a home a safe space for people for their
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  Speaker 1: And when I think about women like miss Tina Knowles
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  Speaker 1: and just the matriarch of it and being the matriarch
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  Speaker 1: of something right, like we're talking about Michael Jackson orti
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  Speaker 1: arch of anything. It always starts out as like this
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  Speaker 1: just this gift, this God given gift in favor that
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  Speaker 1: you just lean into once, you meanon amazing and marvelous
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  Speaker 1: things happened and came to Destiny's child. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: Beyonce is a solo artist and Solange and even Kelly
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  Speaker 1: like she's been Mama Knows, Mama Tina to so many people,
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  Speaker 1: Michael Jackson has been even if people don't want to
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  Speaker 1: ad architects and the inspiration in the conversation behind so much,
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  Speaker 1: I just pray I can always stay in Atlanta things
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  Speaker 1: and that number one, Like I think when you get
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  Speaker 1: to various you get to these rooms and you think
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  Speaker 1: you have all the answers and you realize you don't.
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  Speaker 1: You have to figure that out for yourself. And I
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  Speaker 1: know I mentioned that I was going to add bonus
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  Speaker 1: audio content from when I had the conversation can but
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  Speaker 1: I think it would be better right now, right here
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  Speaker 1: for you guys to hear her talk about that, because
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: you talking about architect. You know she has women evolved
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  Speaker 1: and now she's lead very severe accident where she fractured
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  Speaker 1: her neck in several places. And it was literally right
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  Speaker 1: after we had the conversation with her at Seeds of
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  Speaker 1: Greatness did on that and how moved I was by
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  Speaker 1: her impact and how you know, just that unjaded vulnerableness,
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  Speaker 1: what it did for the women in the room who
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  Speaker 1: aren't even It was thousands of women women there, most
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  Speaker 1: of them were not even churchgoers, produces the world to
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  Speaker 1: a whole new range of things, like all Michael Jackson,
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  Speaker 1: like a ten of nose, like a miss Sera Jax Roberts, Right,
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  Speaker 1: It's just I don't know, like the what you experience,
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  Speaker 1: sure and you know, get into those different levels and
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  Speaker 1: trying not to lose that feeling that I'm feeling right
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  Speaker 1: now as I talk about all these great architects.
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  Speaker 2: So Adams, we close out this episode, will take a
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  Speaker 2: listen for.
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  Speaker 1: That time you've met before at the black of Fan festival.
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  Speaker 2: So my question for you. You talked about like when.
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  Speaker 1: A woman like steps into and knows her power and
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  Speaker 1: the you know, and there's like ebbs and flows of that, right,
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  Speaker 1: So when you're in it, it feels like this like
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  Speaker 1: love hate relationship where like things are working and they're moving,
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  Speaker 1: but then so much is adjusting and a lot of
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  Speaker 1: times you feel like you're walking into a room and
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  Speaker 1: trying to find the light. But you've done that before,
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  Speaker 1: but it's on a different level now. So this is
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  Speaker 1: a personal question for myself. I don't know if anybody
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  Speaker 1: else is dealing with this. When you get back in
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  Speaker 1: that room again and you're trying to find that light switch, right,
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  Speaker 1: how are you, like self talking to yourself so that
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  Speaker 1: and not feeling bad on the fact that you don't
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  Speaker 1: have on the answers, Oh, I try to.
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  Speaker 7: Force myself to be.
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  Speaker 8: Grateful for the things that I do have in small,
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  Speaker 8: like when I'm entering into a new season and I
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  Speaker 8: realize I I'm back in school, and so I'm doing
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  Speaker 8: very well. I laid that, ye alright, And it's kind
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  Speaker 8: of hard cause I have these moments where I feel
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  Speaker 8: like I'm doing really well in one area of my life,
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  Speaker 8: but then this other area is kind of like, Okay,
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  Speaker 8: I'm basically starting over again. One I've come to realize
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  Speaker 8: that I need those moments that if I only fed
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  Speaker 8: myself on the moments where I feel in control, that
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  Speaker 8: I would have pride, not relationship with God.
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  Speaker 2: And so I've come to.
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  Speaker 8: Honor those moments where I don't feel like I have
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  Speaker 8: it as much as I do the moments where I
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  Speaker 8: do feel like I have it, because I believe that
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  Speaker 8: it's cultivating dependency on me, and then I try to
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  Speaker 8: also make sure dependency in me for God.
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  Speaker 2: And then I also try to make sure that.
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  Speaker 8: I'm not putting pressure on myself as well as to
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  Speaker 8: find it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because sometimes the pressure is.
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  Speaker 8: Like if you're like looking for your keys and you're
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  Speaker 8: like having a panic attacks, and then you gotta take you
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  Speaker 8: in and say, Okay, hold on, calm down, breathe, and
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  Speaker 8: from that place of.
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  Speaker 7: Breathing and being settled in our nervous system is regulated,
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  Speaker 7: I'm able to show up in the moment to figure
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  Speaker 7: out to figure out what does my light look like
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  Speaker 7: in this scenario, because maybe part of the reason why
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  Speaker 7: I'm frustrated is because I'm trying to use the light
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  Speaker 7: that works over here, over there or here, and God
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  Speaker 7: may have a unique expression here, So it's like, what
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  Speaker 7: is the unique expression for this moment? So I always
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  Speaker 7: feel anxiety when I'm like coming into moments like this,
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  Speaker 7: because you know, people tag me, They're like, my wig
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  Speaker 7: gonna be tonash.
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  Speaker 8: My eyelights you're gonna be off, And I'm like, are.
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  Speaker 2: They I don't know, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 8: But I have to like settle myself into I'm gonna
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  Speaker 8: bring what I can to the moment. I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 8: pressure myself to be who you saw on YouTube or
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  Speaker 8: what you saw last week, and I'm gonna trust that
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  Speaker 8: God can.
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  Speaker 2: Meet them whatever I have to offer this moment.
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  Speaker 7: And there's unique expressions.
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  Speaker 2: You're doing a phenomenal job.
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  Speaker 1: Such a word, Oh my god, such a word that
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: was Sarah J. S. Roberts gets better and actually takes
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  Speaker 1: the time to heal. When I was watching her speak
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  Speaker 1: and she was so vulnerable, I felt from her that
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  Speaker 1: sometimes it gets heavy, and when you think about people
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  Speaker 1: who are in this impact of any.
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  Speaker 2: Kind, that that's what happens.
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  Speaker 1: So I just see I pray that she gets better,
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  Speaker 1: but I pray that physically speaking, I mean, like mentally,
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  Speaker 1: I hope she's able to really gather her mind, her
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  Speaker 1: thoughts and like really have a deep, faithful experience and
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  Speaker 1: conversation with herself to whatever place it is that she
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  Speaker 1: needs to be reflfilled at where she's at right now,
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  Speaker 1: because I know and watching her that like it's not
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  Speaker 1: as easy and she may need that. I'm Gona Rosa.
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  Speaker 1: This has been another episode of the Latest with Una Rosa.
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  Speaker 1: I tell you, guys are things, but you choose to
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  Speaker 1: be right here with me, my low riders.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate you, guys.
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  Speaker 1: I will see you oh my next episode. Oh and
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  Speaker 1: hopefully in Atlanta too. Black of Black Podcasts Festival this week.
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  Speaker 3: A