Latest / Ron Verb / Tuesday 3pm hour 06/23/26
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Report is sponsored by rockauto.com. Well, good afternoon. 3-0-6 in
- 0:04Speaker 1: the afternoon. It's Tuesday, June 23rd. Ron Firm with you
- 0:07Speaker 1: until we solve the world's problems, and then we'll call
- 0:10Speaker 1: it a day. How's that sound?
- 0:11Speaker 2: 330-729-9977. 330-729-9977.
- 0:11Speaker 1: We'll get you through to us on this Tuesday afternoon. 330-729-9977.
- 0:13Speaker 1: Numerous things to talk about today. And something that we...
- 0:28Speaker 1: Where was it? I mean, it's still hard to grasp
- 0:34Speaker 1: this whole deal with Schwebel's, isn't it, locally here, that
- 0:40Speaker 1: is going on here? And I'd like to get some comments,
- 0:44Speaker 1: particularly from people that had worked there or are working there,
- 0:47Speaker 1: about what's going on. It's hard to imagine Schwebel's failing.
- 0:52Speaker 1: It's just hard to imagine it. So they say Schwebel's
- 0:55Speaker 1: to wrap up operations after July 4th. This from the Tribune,
- 1:02Speaker 1: Schwebel Baking Company, a Mahoning Valley institution, founded in 1906,
- 1:06Speaker 1: plans to end operations after the 4th of July holiday.
- 1:09Speaker 1: The company announced Wednesday in a news release. The Schwebel's
- 1:13Speaker 1: brand has been known for the highest quality of bread
- 1:15Speaker 1: buns and other bakery products for over 100 years, and
- 1:18Speaker 1: we're devastated to reach the point where liquidation is the
- 1:22Speaker 1: only remaining option. Steve Cooper, Schwebel's CEO right there, said that.
- 1:27Speaker 1: We've worked with our advisors, he says, for several months
- 1:36Speaker 1: to identify a buyer or investment source. However, despite significant
- 1:40Speaker 1: efforts to adopt to changing market conditions and secure additional investments,
- 1:45Speaker 1: the company was unable to establish a sustainable path forward.
- 1:50Speaker 1: So basically, you know what this guy is saying? When
- 1:52Speaker 1: Schwebel's looked at everything, there wasn't a path forward after
- 1:55Speaker 1: 100 years. The number of affected workers was not released.
- 2:00Speaker 1: I got a subsequent article about that. As of Wednesday nights,
- 2:04Speaker 1: this is last week, the Audit Department of Justice and
- 2:06Speaker 1: Family Services website did not list the notification that they need.
- 2:10Speaker 1: The company's union workers are associated with BCTGM International Union
- 2:16Speaker 1: Local 19, based in Cleveland. The union represents manufacturing, production workers, maintenance,
- 2:22Speaker 1: sanitation workers in the bakery, tobacco and... That industry phone
- 2:28Speaker 1: calls and emails to union officials seeking comment were not
- 2:31Speaker 1: answered as of Wednesday's deadline. Let's see. Everyone's walking around
- 2:36Speaker 1: the plants, said a person who answered the phone at
- 2:39Speaker 1: Schwebel's after hours. They're trying to get a hold of
- 2:42Speaker 1: the union. They were never told. They heard it through
- 2:45Speaker 1: the news channels. So imagine that. So imagine that the workers,
- 2:51Speaker 1: the Schwebel's family, the workers down there, Hear about this
- 2:56Speaker 1: through the news media. Hey, by the way, we're closing
- 3:02Speaker 1: up shop. Schwebel's makes branded and private label bakery products
- 3:07Speaker 1: at its bakeries in Youngstown and one that's 30 minutes
- 3:12Speaker 1: east of Columbus. Its bread, buns, and rolls are distributed
- 3:16Speaker 1: to retail, grocery, food services, institutional customers. Schwebel said it
- 3:22Speaker 1: has faced significant operational and financial constraints for many years.
- 3:27Speaker 1: The company said these challenges include aging manufacturing facilities and equipment,
- 3:33Speaker 1: costly labor contracts and pension obligations, and consumer trends depressing
- 3:39Speaker 1: demand for traditional bakery and bread products. What do you
- 3:45Speaker 1: make of that? So let's see, what else did I,
- 3:49Speaker 1: just bear with me here. Let's see, what else did I,
- 3:52Speaker 1: I was reading this today that on WKBN, Cleveland-based Orlando
- 4:00Speaker 1: Baking Company is inviting Schwebel workers who will be laid
- 4:03Speaker 1: off soon to apply for jobs with them. Orlando announced
- 4:06Speaker 1: Monday that it wants Schwebel workers to know their opportunities
- 4:10Speaker 1: at Orlando Baking where their experience, skills, and commitment will
- 4:14Speaker 1: be valued, the notice read. We have tremendous respect for
- 4:17Speaker 1: the men and women that help make Schwebel's a trusted
- 4:19Speaker 1: name for generations. Orlando baking leadership added, our message is simple.
- 4:23Speaker 1: If you're looking to continue your career in the baking industry,
- 4:26Speaker 1: Orlando baking is ready to welcome talent individuals who want
- 4:29Speaker 1: to be part of a company committed to quality teamwork
- 4:31Speaker 1: and long-term success. Orlando is hiring experienced workers in production, maintenance, sanitation,
- 4:36Speaker 1: warehouse operations, and leadership at its Cleveland area facilities. Orlando
- 4:42Speaker 1: is a union bakery as is Schwebel's. So there you go.
- 4:45Speaker 1: So this Orlando baking up in Cleveland says they have
- 4:52Speaker 1: jobs for people if they would like to apply. So
- 4:55Speaker 1: there you go. So I guess that's good news for
- 4:57Speaker 1: the workers, right? So can you imagine that you're reading
- 5:01Speaker 1: this stuff so the workers find out from Schwebel, so
- 5:06Speaker 1: workers find out from the news media like the rest
- 5:08Speaker 1: of us did. So can you imagine, I mean, how
- 5:10Speaker 1: shocking it is, you know, how shocking it is for
- 5:15Speaker 1: Those of us that just buy the product, it's a
- 5:17Speaker 1: part of this community. It's been a part of this
- 5:19Speaker 1: community for a long time. And when this news came
- 5:22Speaker 1: out at the end of last week, it was just,
- 5:24Speaker 1: wasn't it kind of a shock to everybody? It was
- 5:28Speaker 1: to me. Wasn't it a shock to everybody about Schwebel's closing, basically? Saying, okay, well,
- 5:38Speaker 1: we can't afford to stay in business. We can't find
- 5:40Speaker 1: a buyer. We're done. After 120 years. So as shocking
- 5:49Speaker 1: as that is to you as a customer, imagine how
- 5:51Speaker 1: shocking that had to be for the employees down there.
- 5:55Speaker 1: It had to be really shocking to them when they
- 6:02Speaker 1: heard about it basically the same way the rest of
- 6:04Speaker 1: us heard about it, which is very troubling. One other thing, okay?
- 6:10Speaker 1: I get to phone calls just momentarily. These are things
- 6:13Speaker 1: I've been sitting on and I wanted to bring to
- 6:14Speaker 1: your attention. This is one other thing. And this has
- 6:22Speaker 1: to do with Trumbull County. Commissioner Tony Bernard and Rick
- 6:26Speaker 1: Hernandez made a request to several superintendents attending Wednesday's regular
- 6:31Speaker 1: county commissioner's meeting to support the county's efforts to by
- 6:35Speaker 1: perhaps assisting in the drafting of a letter. This is
- 6:37Speaker 1: a part of an article. Bernard added that he has
- 6:40Speaker 1: broached the idea to a few township and villages leaders
- 6:43Speaker 1: over the several days. And I'm just reading a part
- 6:46Speaker 1: of the article out of the paper. We will be
- 6:48Speaker 1: asking our state reps to freeze our current property evaluations. Okay,
- 6:53Speaker 1: so they're going to try to ask them for this.
- 6:56Speaker 1: Bernard added the county needs to let the state know
- 6:58Speaker 1: that they are not going to continuously allow them to
- 7:01Speaker 1: increase property taxes on people that cannot afford it. Now
- 7:05Speaker 1: listen to this, gang. This is in Trumbull County. This
- 7:09Speaker 1: will be in addition to the commissioner's plan to pass
- 7:12Speaker 1: a resolution next week, which would be this week, that
- 7:15Speaker 1: would increase the deduction at residence in owner-occupied households from 2.5%
- 7:20Speaker 1: to 5%. So in Trumbull County, unlike Mahoning County, in
- 7:28Speaker 1: Trumbull County, they are going to give the... If you...
- 7:34Speaker 1: are owner-occupied home. In other words, you don't rent it.
- 7:38Speaker 1: It's owner-occupied home. That your owner occupancy, which is a 2.5% reduction,
- 7:46Speaker 1: will go to 5%. So once again, this will be
- 7:52Speaker 1: in addition to the commissioner's plan to pass a resolution
- 7:57Speaker 1: this week. That would increase the deduction that residents and
- 8:00Speaker 1: owner-occupied households in Trumbull County from 2.5% to 5%. That
- 8:05Speaker 1: would help the homeowners on their property taxes starting in 2027.
- 8:11Speaker 1: The commissioners are expected to offer additional tax relief next
- 8:15Speaker 1: year by voting next week to pass a resolution that
- 8:16Speaker 1: will increase property tax deductions. by 2.5% on owner-occupied homes.
- 8:37Speaker 1: The commissioners are expected to offer additional tax relief next
- 8:39Speaker 1: year by voting next week to pass a resolution that
- 8:42Speaker 1: will increase property tax deductions by 2.5% on owner-occupied homes.
- 8:47Speaker 1: The schools may not like this, and the trustees may
- 8:50Speaker 1: not like this, but this is a small chunk of
- 8:53Speaker 1: what the homestead would have been. Bernard said the board
- 8:59Speaker 1: was waiting to make a decision until they saw if
- 9:03Speaker 1: the group that was seeking to get a property tax
- 9:05Speaker 1: referendum on a November ballot was successful, it did not
- 9:08Speaker 1: collect enough signatures. So any effort to get a statewide
- 9:12Speaker 1: vote now will wait until 2027. If the property tax
- 9:16Speaker 1: goes away, then what? He questions. We will help you
- 9:20Speaker 1: go to the states and say you need to give
- 9:22Speaker 1: more money to the schools, to the townships, to the counties.
- 9:26Speaker 1: Everybody has some money except us, he said. We need
- 9:28Speaker 1: to get them to give it back to us. Rick
- 9:35Speaker 1: Hernandez noted that they are constantly bombarded with questions from
- 9:39Speaker 1: Trumbull residents about their increasing property tax bills. Gee, there's
- 9:45Speaker 1: a surprise, isn't it? So it looks like they're going
- 9:52Speaker 1: to do some movement. I ask you to consider... what
- 9:56Speaker 1: the 2.5% means to each school district. Of course, the
- 10:00Speaker 1: schools are going to bellyache about it because they really
- 10:03Speaker 1: don't care about what it's doing to the homeowners. So
- 10:08Speaker 1: it appears to me, and correct me if I'm wrong,
- 10:10Speaker 1: that Trumbull County is going to act on as commissioners
- 10:14Speaker 1: by raising the owner occupancy from 2.5% to 5%. Right?
- 10:24Speaker 1: I mean, is that what you hear in Trouble County?
- 10:27Speaker 1: That the commissioners, unlike Mahoning County, are finally saying, okay,
- 10:31Speaker 1: we have the ability to give relief to our taxpayers,
- 10:34Speaker 1: so we're going to act on it. And that would
- 10:37Speaker 1: kick in in 2027. Anybody know anything more about that?
- 10:43Speaker 1: Where is Rick Hernandez and where's Tony Bernard and these people?
- 10:48Speaker 1: Call the program. What are you going to do? Let your...
- 10:53Speaker 1: You say this was last week's paper, so that would
- 10:55Speaker 1: be happening this week. So let's see what happens. You're
- 11:00Speaker 1: on the air.
- 11:01Speaker 2: Ronald.
- 11:02Speaker 1: It's Ted the Conservative.
- 11:04Speaker 2: What a great transition. Yes. Taxes, real estate taxes.
- 11:08Speaker 1: Yes.
- 11:08Speaker 2: We have one candidate in Mahoning County who has told
- 11:11Speaker 2: us she will reduce your taxes. As a matter of fact,
- 11:17Speaker 2: tomorrow night at one of your, no, tomorrow, what's today? Tuesday,
- 11:20Speaker 2: Thursday night or Thursday evening. At one of Ron Verb's
- 11:24Speaker 2: favorite restaurants, The Fireplace, from 530 to 730, you can
- 11:29Speaker 2: go meet Christine Oliver. She's having a gathering there. So
- 11:33Speaker 2: I'm sure she would love to see you and all
- 11:35Speaker 2: of your listeners show up. And they can question her
- 11:38Speaker 2: and they can ask her about what she's going to do.
- 11:40Speaker 2: She made it clear on the campaign that she plans
- 11:43Speaker 2: to reduce taxes.
- 11:44Speaker 1: Well, she said she's on the campaign. She said she
- 11:46Speaker 1: supports both of them and says, And she's the.
- 11:50Speaker 3: Only one running.
- 11:51Speaker 2: You know, let's be honest. Her Democrat opponent is just
- 11:55Speaker 2: another globalist, tax-hungry, tax-spending Democrat. And that commissioner's race could
- 12:05Speaker 2: be the most critical race you and I vote on,
- 12:07Speaker 2: to be honest.
- 12:08Speaker 1: I would agree. I would agree.
- 12:10Speaker 2: So I would encourage your listeners up there. They want
- 12:13Speaker 2: to get out tomorrow and enjoy some of this nice weather.
- 12:16Speaker 3: Stop by the fireplace.
- 12:17Speaker 1: I thought you said Thursday.
- 12:19Speaker 2: Thursday, Thursday. I'm very forgetful.
- 12:22Speaker 1: I mean, it's today's Tuesday, man. Do you know what
- 12:24Speaker 1: year it is? How many fingers am I holding up?
- 12:27Speaker 2: Don't ask me who the president is. I know today's Tuesday.
- 12:30Speaker 2: I just realized that.
- 12:32Speaker 4: Yeah, hey.
- 12:34Speaker 2: Thursday from 5.30 to 7.30, stop at the fireplace and
- 12:37Speaker 2: meet the one candidate who will lower your real estate tax.
- 12:40Speaker 1: Well, she will certainly champion it, but... I just find
- 12:44Speaker 1: it refreshing. I mean, Denny Malloy lost his election, and
- 12:48Speaker 1: I think he would have probably done better if he
- 12:51Speaker 1: had moved on this before Election Day. I mean, he
- 12:55Speaker 1: called the program and said he was interested in doing it,
- 12:57Speaker 1: but nothing materialized. Now you have..
- 13:01Speaker 2: My personal opinion, this is just Ted the Conservative, I
- 13:04Speaker 2: didn't think very highly of Denny Malloy. Irregardless of what
- 13:09Speaker 2: you thought of Nicky Frenchcoe, And her behavior, the way
- 13:13Speaker 2: he treated her as a woman, I thought was disrespectful,
- 13:17Speaker 2: and he lost a lot of my support. You can
- 13:19Speaker 2: disagree with someone, but you don't need to get in
- 13:21Speaker 2: the mud and make yourself look worse than that person.
- 13:24Speaker 2: I thought that's what he did, but that's not why
- 13:26Speaker 2: I called you.
- 13:27Speaker 4: All right.
- 13:28Speaker 2: Hey, something else you mentioned, Schwebel. Yes. So I know
- 13:32Speaker 2: a Schwebel who was in the business for many, many years, decades.
- 13:36Speaker 2: He was actually forced out by some of the family
- 13:38Speaker 2: a certain time ago. And... They basically did to the
- 13:43Speaker 2: bakery what was done to our steel mills. They sucked
- 13:45Speaker 2: it dry. They didn't reinvest in the bakery. Now they're
- 13:49Speaker 2: complaining about pensions and union agreements and bad equipment. Well, there's...
- 13:56Speaker 2: The only way a 120-year-old business could fail that's been
- 14:00Speaker 2: successful for 119 years is just poor management, poor leadership.
- 14:05Speaker 2: And I think that's what happened there. I mean, I've
- 14:07Speaker 2: been at the grocery store and I look at the
- 14:09Speaker 2: shelves and I'm... paused, and I think, how could that happen?
- 14:14Speaker 2: Every doggone brand of bread is a Schwebel's. And if
- 14:18Speaker 2: it's not branded Schwebel's, it's in a Giant Eagle bag
- 14:21Speaker 2: that says Giant Eagle made it Schwebel's. It's really sad.
- 14:26Speaker 1: Very fast. No, but you sit back and you say
- 14:29Speaker 1: it's 100. I mean, I understand technology changes. I mean,
- 14:34Speaker 1: you know, in the business I'm in, the terrestrial media,
- 14:37Speaker 1: it's changed dramatically. But that has to do with technology.
- 14:41Speaker 1: Bread is a much different industry. We still need bread.
- 14:44Speaker 1: We still eat peanut butter jelly and we need bread.
- 14:47Speaker 2: People will still be making bread. Until the day you
- 14:50Speaker 2: and I die.
- 14:51Speaker 1: And they'll be making it after that. But it's interesting.
- 14:56Speaker 2: They had a system in place for 120 years that
- 14:59Speaker 2: was successful. What did they do wrong?
- 15:01Speaker 1: I'm like you. When I went to Meijer, I looked
- 15:04Speaker 1: at the shelf and I was looking at my honey
- 15:09Speaker 1: wheat bread that I buy from Schwebel. And I was
- 15:12Speaker 1: looking at all the brands there. And I thought, this
- 15:15Speaker 1: is the weird part. I thought, this is really sad.
- 15:17Speaker 1: I mean, stand by. Stand by. Ted the Conservative. Other callers,
- 15:20Speaker 1: hang on. We've got a Tuesday afternoon underway. We've got
- 15:23Speaker 1: plenty of time to spend together. Glad you tuned in.
- 15:25Speaker 1: Ron Furb from the Kingdom of Mahoning. 570 WKBN. All right. So,
- 15:34Speaker 1: the whole Schwebel thing is set.
- 15:36Speaker 2: You and I haven't spoken in a minute, but I've
- 15:38Speaker 2: got to say something else before. There's so much I
- 15:41Speaker 2: want to share with you because we haven't talked in
- 15:42Speaker 2: a while. I want to compliment you. You did a
- 15:45Speaker 2: very short segment with the women last, I think it
- 15:49Speaker 2: was last week or the week before, who you said
- 15:52Speaker 2: was instrumental in bringing you to Mahoney, to WKBN, the
- 15:55Speaker 2: Mahoney Valley.
- 15:56Speaker 1: 41 years ago, yes.
- 15:58Speaker 2: And I want to compliment you on the things that
- 16:02Speaker 2: you said to her. And some of the things you said,
- 16:06Speaker 2: if listeners didn't hear, I would tell them, go back
- 16:09Speaker 2: and listen, because you gave some great life advice. You know,
- 16:13Speaker 2: we never know where the next step we take will
- 16:16Speaker 2: lead us, or the people who we meet will lead us,
- 16:19Speaker 2: and how they will affect our lives. And you said
- 16:22Speaker 2: that so beautifully. I don't know, your wife must have
- 16:24Speaker 2: wrote that for you or something.
- 16:25Speaker 1: I don't know. No, she didn't.
- 16:27Speaker 2: Where did those words come from?
- 16:29Speaker 1: They came, really, seriously, they came directly out of my heart, because..
- 16:33Speaker 2: I believe it. I was joking, but I could tell
- 16:37Speaker 2: those were heartfelt words. To be honest..
- 16:40Speaker 1: I mean, she's the reason I... came to Youngstown and
- 16:44Speaker 1: why I ended up here.
- 16:46Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 16:46Speaker 2: And, I mean, I've learned the hard way that, you know,
- 16:49Speaker 2: you have a soft side. I think you first exposed
- 16:52Speaker 2: that when you told us all you watch General Hospital,
- 16:54Speaker 2: but I won't go down that road.
- 16:56Speaker 1: Well, I do occasionally watch that, but, I mean, it
- 16:59Speaker 1: was like– If you go back, I mean, because it was,
- 17:05Speaker 1: let me put it this way.
- 17:06Speaker 2: And as a listener, I want you to know, that's
- 17:09Speaker 2: what I heard. I heard wrong words speaking from the heart.
- 17:12Speaker 1: And it was, here's the strange thing is, few things
- 17:17Speaker 1: make me, how do you say it? Few things make
- 17:20Speaker 1: me get nervous or butterflies. How's that sound?
- 17:24Speaker 2: Uh-huh. Other than your wife?
- 17:27Speaker 1: But she did, you know what I mean? Because it
- 17:29Speaker 1: was my opportunity to say to her everything that she
- 17:32Speaker 1: had done for me to get me to come to Youngstown.
- 17:38Speaker 1: And yeah, she went on to other entities, you know,
- 17:45Speaker 1: other broadcast entities and that kind of stuff. But if
- 17:47Speaker 1: it wasn't for her, I would have never ended up here.
- 17:50Speaker 1: And it's like, you know, 41 years later, which is...
- 17:54Speaker 1: Longer than I ever thought it would be.
- 17:56Speaker 2: As a longtime listener, I heard those words coming from
- 17:59Speaker 2: your heart. And I was really impressed, to be honest.
- 18:01Speaker 2: I didn't know you... had that emotional, sensitive side in you,
- 18:06Speaker 2: to be honest. I just thought you were this rough,
- 18:08Speaker 2: tough talk show host.
- 18:09Speaker 1: I am that rough, tough talk show host, but, you know,
- 18:12Speaker 1: she made me nervous, you know, sitting in that chair
- 18:14Speaker 1: right over there. You know what I mean? So, so
- 18:17Speaker 1: it was, but you better make it, you better take time.
- 18:20Speaker 2: And they were heart, you spoke from your heart as
- 18:23Speaker 2: a listener. That's what I heard.
- 18:24Speaker 1: You better take time in your life. particularly as you
- 18:28Speaker 1: get older, as I am now 68 years old. And
- 18:34Speaker 1: I think about it quite often, if I get honest,
- 18:37Speaker 1: because my father didn't live past 63, unfortunately. So you
- 18:41Speaker 1: become cognizant of your DNA as far as your life.
- 18:45Speaker 1: And so luckily, my mother lived into her mid-80s. So
- 18:50Speaker 1: you hope maybe you get more of that DNA. Stand by,
- 18:52Speaker 1: Ted the Conservative. Stand by. I want to pick up,
- 18:54Speaker 1: talk more about that and plenty more that I want
- 18:56Speaker 1: to talk to Ted about. Call us on the line.
- 18:58Speaker 1: Stand by. Good afternoon. Ron Verb from the Kingdom of Mahoning.
- 19:01Speaker 1: News Radio 570 WKVN. By Estella's Pharma. News Radio 570 WKVN.
- 19:05Speaker 1: All right, back to it. News Radio 570 WKVN. I
- 19:09Speaker 1: was talking with Ted the Conservative. And the bottom line is,
- 19:12Speaker 1: like I said to everybody, is as you get older—
- 19:15Speaker 1: You should remember the people that made huge differences in
- 19:17Speaker 1: your life and guided you in your life to how
- 19:24Speaker 1: it ended up. It always takes somebody that– remember the
- 19:28Speaker 1: person that gave you your first job, who took a
- 19:29Speaker 1: chance on you. Remember the people that mentored you. Remember
- 19:33Speaker 1: the people that taught you a work ethic and just–
- 19:39Speaker 1: Just remember those people. And while you're still, and they're
- 19:42Speaker 1: still alive, thank them. I mean, I was blessed. I
- 19:45Speaker 1: thanked Gabriel several times as he got older. for, you know,
- 19:50Speaker 1: he's a program director. He hired me at the time,
- 19:52Speaker 1: and I appreciate what he did for me and all
- 19:56Speaker 1: the folks over the years. And now look at me.
- 19:58Speaker 1: I'm 102 years old, and I'm exhausted. I'm absolutely exhausted.
- 20:04Speaker 2: Since we're being sentimental, let me tell you this, and
- 20:07Speaker 2: then we'll get on to business. And I mean this
- 20:09Speaker 2: in all seriousness. You know, growing up as a young,
- 20:14Speaker 2: talk radio has been in my life since I can remember.
- 20:17Speaker 2: I had the privilege as a young kid in high school, college,
- 20:21Speaker 2: and even after college, working with my dad every day
- 20:23Speaker 2: for quite some time. And part of that daily routine
- 20:27Speaker 2: was talk radio. That was the only thing that was on.
- 20:30Speaker 2: And I grew up listening to Dan Ryan in the morning.
- 20:33Speaker 2: And while I enjoyed it, I didn't appreciate it. Because
- 20:36Speaker 2: I didn't know where he was coming from. You follow me? Yes.
- 20:38Speaker 2: To me, it was just entertainment talk radio. But I
- 20:41Speaker 2: will say this, because now I look back and I
- 20:44Speaker 2: realize how great Dan Ryan was. And I would say
- 20:47Speaker 2: that Ron Verb is the Dan Ryan of my lifetime.
- 20:51Speaker 2: You've taught me medicine. You've taught all of your listeners.
- 20:54Speaker 2: You've educated us. You've led us into your life. And
- 20:58Speaker 2: sometimes I feel like I know you. On a personal basis,
- 21:02Speaker 2: even though I don't.
- 21:03Speaker 1: Well, you do to a certain extent. You form a
- 21:06Speaker 1: strange relationship as a result of this, and that's a
- 21:08Speaker 1: good thing. It's not a bad thing. But I always
- 21:12Speaker 1: said to myself, I said, well, when I turn 62,
- 21:14Speaker 1: I'm going to retire. And 63, I'm going to retire.
- 21:16Speaker 1: And 64, I'm going to retire. 65, I'm going to retire. 66,
- 21:17Speaker 1: I'm going to retire. 67, I'm going to retire. Now
- 21:19Speaker 1: I'm 68, and I can assure you this will not
- 21:21Speaker 1: go on forever. I can assure you of that.
- 21:29Speaker 2: But it's a part of your life. It's who you are.
- 21:33Speaker 2: And when you walk away from that, you're walking away
- 21:36Speaker 2: from a part of your life.
- 21:37Speaker 1: Yeah, but there's other things in life. I mean, be
- 21:42Speaker 1: thankful if you're healthy and you're still alive. And there's
- 21:47Speaker 1: other joys and adventures to enjoy. But anyway, with that
- 21:53Speaker 1: being said.
- 21:53Speaker 3: I agree.
- 21:54Speaker 2: With that being said, so let me get to some
- 21:57Speaker 2: of the reasons I called.
- 21:58Speaker 1: Yes.
- 22:00Speaker 2: Yesterday, I'm having a nice walk with my dog. Complete serenity,
- 22:04Speaker 2: peace and quiet. Emanuel calls. And I say, wow. You know,
- 22:08Speaker 2: I'm starting to enjoy Emanuel again. For a while, he
- 22:11Speaker 2: went off the rails.
- 22:12Speaker 1: Yes.
- 22:12Speaker 2: But then yesterday, he proceeded to tell the thousands of
- 22:16Speaker 2: listeners to the Vaughn Group show that he went to
- 22:18Speaker 2: the Toy Story.
- 22:20Speaker 1: Yes.
- 22:22Speaker 2: Wow. Wow. I just took him down a notch. You know,
- 22:25Speaker 2: it's one thing to watch General Hospital with your wife.
- 22:28Speaker 1: Yes.
- 22:28Speaker 2: It's another thing to go to a cartoon and a movie.
- 22:32Speaker 2: And then he proceeds to talk about Epstein.
- 22:34Speaker 1: Yes.
- 22:35Speaker 2: And, you know, I'm just going to say this. And
- 22:39Speaker 2: people may get mad at me. They may not. But
- 22:41Speaker 2: I truly, as you, I have the same beliefs as
- 22:44Speaker 2: you when it comes to Epstein. I also believe Trump
- 22:48Speaker 2: held back on the release of documents to not bother
- 22:51Speaker 2: his friends. to cause trouble for his friends. I truly
- 22:54Speaker 2: believe that. And I also believe we will never know
- 22:58Speaker 2: the truth of Epstein.
- 22:59Speaker 1: Ever. And the victims will never get justice.
- 23:02Speaker 2: Exactly. But what really eats at me, and I mean
- 23:07Speaker 2: no disrespect to anyone, but it's when people call your
- 23:11Speaker 2: program and scream about Epstein, but for the last five
- 23:15Speaker 2: years they've not said a word about it. Yeah. And
- 23:19Speaker 2: that goes for every Democrat who utters the word Epstein.
- 23:22Speaker 4: Right.
- 23:23Speaker 2: Because guess what? They didn't care about it until they
- 23:25Speaker 2: thought it could hurt Trump. They don't care about the victims.
- 23:28Speaker 2: They don't care about anyone except trying to gain political points.
- 23:32Speaker 2: But I would say to the Democrats, next time you
- 23:35Speaker 2: want to utter the word Epstein, just go pull your
- 23:38Speaker 2: little toy story dolls out, play with those and just
- 23:40Speaker 2: move on. You didn't care before, and you don't care.
- 23:44Speaker 2: You won't care. Let's say Gavin Newsom's president in three years.
- 23:50Speaker 2: Guess what? You'll never hear a word about Epstein, ever.
- 23:54Speaker 2: And I think you would agree with me on that.
- 23:58Speaker 1: I'll give you an eye. I kept it 100% on it.
- 24:00Speaker 1: And what troubles me about the whole Epstein thing is that,
- 24:04Speaker 1: once again, the victims will never get justice. I mean,
- 24:06Speaker 1: think of how evil it is, because this was an
- 24:09Speaker 1: intelligence operation. Many people think with Mossad. Some people say
- 24:14Speaker 1: Mossad in the United States. But it was an intelligence
- 24:17Speaker 1: operation that involved having adult men having sex with minor girls. Children, basically.
- 24:26Speaker 1: So the intelligence community was doing this. And then you
- 24:29Speaker 1: have these despicable people. I mean, I can't even imagine
- 24:33Speaker 1: some guy that's 50 years old or whatever, Prince Andrew
- 24:36Speaker 1: or somebody like that, wanting to have sex with some
- 24:38Speaker 1: 14 or 15-year-old girl. Is that... Bizarre to me.
- 24:42Speaker 2: That's a mental illness.
- 24:44Speaker 1: And sickening to me. And then you start hearing it
- 24:47Speaker 1: was well known what was happening on Epstein Island and
- 24:50Speaker 1: why they called it the Lolita Express and all this
- 24:53Speaker 1: kind of stuff. And yet it went on. for years
- 24:58Speaker 1: and years and years. And all I'm saying is where
- 25:01Speaker 1: is the justice for those victims? You'll never see it.
- 25:04Speaker 1: It's a two-tier justice system. And secondly, where's all of
- 25:07Speaker 1: the videos? Because somebody has this material and can still
- 25:12Speaker 1: use it to have power over these people, whether they're
- 25:16Speaker 1: politicians or the wealthy and influential people. Somebody has that material.
- 25:23Speaker 1: Because that was what it was set up for in
- 25:24Speaker 1: the intelligence community, to get this material on these people
- 25:28Speaker 1: to be able to manipulate them. So who has it now?
- 25:31Speaker 2: I believe Pam Bondi. I believe Bongino. I believe they
- 25:35Speaker 2: had that information. They saw that information. They wanted to
- 25:38Speaker 2: release that information. And I believe Trump stopped it.
- 25:41Speaker 1: Yeah, but who has it? Who has possession of it?
- 25:45Speaker 2: Probably in Donald Trump's bathroom in Mar-a-Lago.
- 25:48Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I don't know. I'm honest.
- 25:51Speaker 2: I'm being honest. I don't know.
- 25:54Speaker 1: I mean, who has the physical possession of this stuff?
- 25:58Speaker 1: And I would even question, was it there when Trump
- 26:01Speaker 1: got there? Was it there when Biden got there? Did
- 26:03Speaker 1: somebody within the FBI or some organization actually take this
- 26:08Speaker 1: stuff and somebody else, if it's an intelligence community operation,
- 26:13Speaker 1: Did the intelligence community get their stuff, or did they
- 26:18Speaker 1: ever apprehend it in the first place? Because there's some
- 26:21Speaker 1: question whether or not the government ever took possession of
- 26:24Speaker 1: it in the first place. I just want to know
- 26:25Speaker 1: who has it now that's still able to use it.
- 26:28Speaker 1: Because you heard what Melinda Gates said about Bill Gates,
- 26:32Speaker 1: and now all of a sudden Bill Gates says, oh,
- 26:34Speaker 1: I cheat on my wife with Russian prostitutes. And he
- 26:39Speaker 1: tried to slip her some drug in case he gave
- 26:41Speaker 1: her VD and this kind of stuff. I mean, it's just–
- 26:45Speaker 1: it's so bizarre when you hear about Bill Gates and
- 26:48Speaker 1: what he tried to do. But I honestly sit back
- 26:51Speaker 1: and say to myself, this Bill Gates that wants to
- 26:53Speaker 1: make the artificial meat and doesn't think people should eat meat,
- 26:57Speaker 1: I don't put it past any of these people to–
- 26:59Speaker 1: to actually chemically engineer that tick that if it bites you,
- 27:03Speaker 1: you're allergic to meat. Never existed until now, until they
- 27:06Speaker 1: started talking about we've got to get rid of eating
- 27:10Speaker 1: meat and this kind of stuff. All of a sudden,
- 27:11Speaker 1: we've got a tick. If it bites you, you can't
- 27:13Speaker 1: eat meat. What a coincidence.
- 27:15Speaker 2: And as crazy as it might sound to some, maybe
- 27:18Speaker 2: they haven't lived long enough to realize that anything is possible.
- 27:21Speaker 2: If you live long enough, you will see enough and
- 27:24Speaker 2: realize that anything is possible.
- 27:25Speaker 1: I think it's real possible. Don't you give a huge aye-aye,
- 27:29Speaker 1: Captain Ted the Conservative, to Telsey Gabbard and leaving as
- 27:33Speaker 1: your DNI director, who put the information out there about Fauci.
- 27:40Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember this, but I had
- 27:42Speaker 2: to laugh because one of your callers at one time,
- 27:45Speaker 2: I'm honest, I'm transparent, I'll tell you everything you want
- 27:49Speaker 2: to know about me, just ask. And I remember at
- 27:51Speaker 2: one time I made this comment, And then someone questioned
- 27:54Speaker 2: how I can be a conservative if I did this.
- 27:57Speaker 2: But when Tulsi Gabbard was running for president, I sent
- 28:00Speaker 2: her 50 bucks when she was running against Hillary Clinton.
- 28:03Speaker 2: Because I thought to myself at the time of looking
- 28:07Speaker 2: at all the candidates on that side of the aisle
- 28:09Speaker 2: and the way things were trending until Donald Trump made
- 28:12Speaker 2: his impact, I thought, we've got to stop Hillary Clinton.
- 28:17Speaker 2: And I really believed Hillary Clinton was going to be
- 28:19Speaker 2: the next president. And I thought, man, who better... Who
- 28:23Speaker 2: better to stop her than this woman? I mean, that's
- 28:26Speaker 2: how impressed I was. She's the only, only politician I've
- 28:30Speaker 2: ever given money to. How about that?
- 28:33Speaker 1: I'll never forget one.
- 28:35Speaker 2: Of your callers questioned my conservatism when.
- 28:38Speaker 1: I said that. I remember that. I do remember that.
- 28:43Speaker 1: You want to talk about somebody on her final day
- 28:46Speaker 1: at DNI director. When she left, she released all this information,
- 28:52Speaker 1: which finally showed us The cover-up that took place, Fauci's
- 28:56Speaker 1: involvement that took place. And once again, what did she
- 29:00Speaker 1: put out there? As I've said to you, all of
- 29:03Speaker 1: the bio labs in the Ukraine that we talked about
- 29:05Speaker 1: over the years. So she put out the information on
- 29:08Speaker 1: all of these bio labs that were out there, the
- 29:10Speaker 1: ones that were in China, the ones that were in
- 29:12Speaker 1: the Ukraine. She put out there how Fauci was covering
- 29:17Speaker 1: all this stuff up and how they thought that, gee,
- 29:21Speaker 1: what is it, hydrochloroquine and ivermectin actually worked. And this government,
- 29:28Speaker 1: this government prevented people from getting that and chose to
- 29:32Speaker 1: let them die. A guy like, this is how evil
- 29:35Speaker 1: I think Fauci is. In other words, they said to doctors,
- 29:38Speaker 1: you're not allowed to prescribe that. They said to pharmacies,
- 29:41Speaker 1: you're not allowed to fulfill that. Even though that it
- 29:45Speaker 1: was fixing the COVID situation for people. Sure. Instead, they
- 29:53Speaker 1: wanted them to die. I mean, it was there because..
- 29:57Speaker 2: What they did is they put their self-interest... I read
- 30:00Speaker 2: some numbers, and we're talking billions.
- 30:02Speaker 1: Yep.
- 30:03Speaker 2: Pharmaceutical industry, Fauci and his workers and his people, the
- 30:09Speaker 2: Democrat politicians, the people that all told you this was
- 30:13Speaker 2: crazy and nonsense were the ones that benefited. They made
- 30:18Speaker 2: hundreds of millions. Yep. upwards of billions of dollars on
- 30:22Speaker 2: this vaccine. So every time a Democrat screams Epstein, you
- 30:27Speaker 2: should ask him, well, did you get the COVID vaccine?
- 30:31Speaker 2: And ask them about Fauci, now that the truth is out.
- 30:34Speaker 1: Yeah, but here's my problem with it. You don't see— it
- 30:37Speaker 1: should be the story of the year on mainstream media,
- 30:40Speaker 1: yet it's as though it doesn't exist. The courage it
- 30:42Speaker 1: took that woman to release all that information, put it
- 30:45Speaker 1: out there for all of us to see what the
- 30:48Speaker 1: governments did to us as Americans, what Fauci did to
- 30:52Speaker 1: us as Americans. what the vaccine, the issues with the vaccine,
- 30:56Speaker 1: how people had died could have been cured and how
- 30:59Speaker 1: to expose all of this. And to totally be ignored
- 31:05Speaker 1: by the mainstream media says everything you need to know.
- 31:09Speaker 1: It should be the lead story for weeks.
- 31:10Speaker 2: And she didn't do it for any self-glorified reason. She's
- 31:13Speaker 2: got a husband who's terminally ill with cancer.
- 31:16Speaker 1: Right.
- 31:17Speaker 2: But she put, you know, we talk about America first,
- 31:19Speaker 2: country first. She put America first.
- 31:21Speaker 3: Yep.
- 31:22Speaker 2: She put the country first. She didn't have to do that.
- 31:24Speaker 2: She didn't have to release this information. But now it's
- 31:27Speaker 2: out there. So, you know, it's going to be, like
- 31:29Speaker 2: you said, mainstream media, they've not said a word about it.
- 31:33Speaker 2: Because it goes against everything that they support. They're probably
- 31:37Speaker 2: in cahoots with all these people, if you ask me.
- 31:42Speaker 1: Think how evil it is. People died alone in nursing
- 31:47Speaker 1: homes and hospitals without their loved ones there as they
- 31:51Speaker 1: approached the time to meet their maker. Think how evil
- 31:55Speaker 1: that is, that that took place, and that many of
- 31:59Speaker 1: those people didn't need to die because we could have
- 32:02Speaker 1: done it.
- 32:03Speaker 2: I had a lifetime friend that I grew up with,
- 32:07Speaker 2: probably one of the nicest people in the world. That's
- 32:10Speaker 2: the only way I can describe a kid. Nicest guy
- 32:13Speaker 2: in the world. He's a nurse, just an amazing person.
- 32:17Speaker 2: And he died alone on a ventilator in the hospital
- 32:20Speaker 2: because of those people, if you ask me. And I
- 32:24Speaker 2: don't know that there's many of us that don't know
- 32:26Speaker 2: of someone who died or became deathly ill or who
- 32:29Speaker 2: suffers today. And to think that our government was behind
- 32:34Speaker 2: it and then lied about it? It's just amazing. It's
- 32:38Speaker 2: just unbelievable.
- 32:39Speaker 1: And the mainstream media ignores this major story. That's unbelievable
- 32:43Speaker 1: to me.
- 32:44Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 32:45Speaker 1: Unbelievable. And once again, just like Epstein, we don't see
- 32:49Speaker 1: anybody being held accountable. No. And just like COVID.
- 32:53Speaker 2: No, never. We'll never see it, Ron.
- 32:55Speaker 1: All the lies. All the lies.
- 32:58Speaker 2: You know the Democrats won't ever talk about it because
- 33:00Speaker 2: it was all their people that had their hands out.
- 33:02Speaker 2: They will never say a word about it.
- 33:04Speaker 1: I fought the Republicans as well.
- 33:07Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I've got to give Rand Paul credit.
- 33:10Speaker 2: At times I thought, okay, I thought he was just
- 33:13Speaker 2: a little bit off the defense. But you know what?
- 33:16Speaker 2: He was right from day one. And he's the only
- 33:19Speaker 2: guy that was out there really. I would say he
- 33:21Speaker 2: was the voice of anti-fascism.
- 33:23Speaker 1: Yeah, who's that one senator, though, that was leading the charge, too?
- 33:27Speaker 1: I can't. The gray-haired guy, I can't recall his name
- 33:29Speaker 1: off the top of my head. He's... He was leading
- 33:33Speaker 1: a charge there, too. It'll come to me or somebody
- 33:35Speaker 1: will bring it to my attention.
- 33:38Speaker 2: I think I see a face, too, but I can't recall.
- 33:40Speaker 2: All right. I don't want to take up any more
- 33:43Speaker 2: of your time. We've taken a lot.
- 33:44Speaker 1: Thank you.
- 33:44Speaker 2: But I do want to talk. Maybe next time I
- 33:46Speaker 2: call or next week I'll give you a call. Rich,
- 33:49Speaker 2: the pharmacist. Yes. You've got to sit him down and
- 33:51Speaker 2: talk to him about the globalist Amy Acton and what
- 33:55Speaker 2: she would do to the visa program compared to what
- 33:59Speaker 2: the big Rama Swami would do to the visa program.
- 34:02Speaker 1: Something for the future. All right.
- 34:04Speaker 2: You got something for the future. All right, buddy. You
- 34:06Speaker 2: have a good one.
- 34:06Speaker 1: Appreciate it. You're on the air. Yeah.
- 34:09Speaker 4: Well, you were talking about, uh, Fauci. I called him
- 34:13Speaker 4: a few times. I'm not quite sure. I've actually mentioned
- 34:15Speaker 4: this guy. There's a guy named Dell D.
- 34:17Speaker 3: L big tree. And, uh, he has held several episodes
- 34:22Speaker 3: on what Fauci did. Uh, and he's done this before.
- 34:26Speaker 2: He did it in Africa with AIDS.
- 34:29Speaker 3: Dell's actually on his podcast or whatever, but he had said,
- 34:33Speaker 3: if you look at the number of deaths that are
- 34:36Speaker 3: under Fauci, he might be the.
- 34:38Speaker 4: Number one worst mass murderer in history.
- 34:41Speaker 3: I want to say.
- 34:43Speaker 4: He linked him to almost.
- 34:44Speaker 3: 50 million deaths in the AIDS epidemic in Africa when
- 34:49Speaker 3: AIDS first came out. It's really amazing how much... that
- 34:55Speaker 3: guy has got away with. And there was actually treatments
- 34:58Speaker 3: that they, he proved that even back then that there
- 35:01Speaker 3: was treatments with AIDS that would work, and Fauci.
- 35:04Speaker 4: Did the exact same thing, was, you know, wouldn't let
- 35:07Speaker 4: doctors prescribe them or try them.
- 35:09Speaker 1: Stand by for me. Stand by. I remember what he's
- 35:12Speaker 1: talking about. I want to talk more with that caller,
- 35:14Speaker 1: and we'll come back with more right after this. Today.
- 35:17Speaker 1: Youngstown's News, Weather, and Talk Station, 570 WKBN. Newt Gingrich
- 35:23Speaker 1: sounds old there, doesn't he? Because he is. Hello there.
- 35:26Speaker 1: So you are 100% correct if people aren't familiar with
- 35:30Speaker 1: Fauci and the AIDS epidemic in Africa. You are 100%
- 35:33Speaker 1: correct on what you said. And people should be aware
- 35:37Speaker 1: of that, but they're not. I'm proud that you are.
- 35:39Speaker 3: I appreciate it. He's actually a pretty interesting character, that
- 35:45Speaker 3: Dale Bigtree. He talks about a lot of stuff. He
- 35:48Speaker 3: goes down the whole how hospitals basically put a price
- 35:52Speaker 3: tag on on every COVID patient. I want to say,
- 35:56Speaker 3: if I remember correctly, it was $ 40, 000 a patient that
- 35:59Speaker 3: died of COVID. And then it was like another 25,000
- 36:01Speaker 3: if they died in a ventilator, which is kind of
- 36:05Speaker 3: scary that you have a hospitals, you know, basically putting
- 36:10Speaker 3: a price tag on everybody's life, you know, and.
- 36:14Speaker 4: For, for profit.
- 36:15Speaker 3: So you are, you, you turned your hospital to the
- 36:17Speaker 3: places where most people think that I'm going in there
- 36:20Speaker 3: to get treatment, that, uh, You know, you basically turned.
- 36:24Speaker 4: Them into legalized death camps.
- 36:27Speaker 3: To a point, you know.
- 36:28Speaker 4: I actually know.
- 36:30Speaker 3: A person who died in a ventilator.
- 36:32Speaker 4: She was my age.
- 36:35Speaker 3: You know, they convinced her to go on a ventilator,
- 36:38Speaker 3: and she coded like a week later.
- 36:40Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 36:41Speaker 1: It was a death sentence to a large extent when
- 36:45Speaker 1: that kind of stuff happens. But do you think he
- 36:48Speaker 1: will ever see, that we will ever see justice? Let
- 36:51Speaker 1: me do my headlines. You got a few more minutes?
- 36:53Speaker 1: I'll hook up with you. I'll hook up with that
- 36:55Speaker 1: guy right after the break. Intelligent caller talking about things
- 36:59Speaker 1: you should know back in a minute.
- 37:05Speaker 5: From ABC News, I'm Wayne Cabot. Just in, the Senate
- 37:08Speaker 5: for the first time approving a war powers resolution to
- 37:12Speaker 5: block the U.S. war against Iran.
- 37:14Speaker 2: On this motion, the yeas are 50, the nays are 48.
- 37:17Speaker 1: The concurrent motion is agreed to.
- 37:20Speaker 5: It is symbolic, President Trump sure to veto, but enough
- 37:23Speaker 5: Republicans did join Democrats. The timing for this made possible
- 37:27Speaker 5: by the missed vote of Mitch McConnell, who's in the hospital.
- 37:30Speaker 5: President Trump about the Iran statement denying his claim that
- 37:34Speaker 5: they've agreed to allow full inspections of nuclear sites.
- 37:38Speaker 2: They're wrong.
- 37:39Speaker 1: They're wrong. They know they're wrong.
- 37:42Speaker 5: Another $ 80 billion to fund the war is very cheap,
- 37:46Speaker 5: says President Trump. to ensure that Iran doesn't get a
- 37:49Speaker 5: nuclear weapon.
- 37:49Speaker 2: We know what they agreed to.
- 37:51Speaker 5: I don't know why they have to say the things
- 37:52Speaker 5: they say. Secretary of State Marco.
- 37:54Speaker 6: Rubio The Pentagon is asking Congress for $ 80 billion to
- 37:58Speaker 6: cover the cost of the war with Iran and other
- 38:00Speaker 6: budget shortfalls. Lawmakers have been pressing the Trump administration to
- 38:04Speaker 6: provide a more comprehensive price tag for this conflict. The
- 38:07Speaker 6: last update from the administration had the cost of the
- 38:10Speaker 6: war at $ 29 billion.
- 38:12Speaker 5: ABC's Mary Bruce at the White House. The Iranian National
- 38:16Speaker 5: World Cup team is getting some relief after complaining about
- 38:19Speaker 5: unfair restrictions on them by U.S. Homeland Security for its
- 38:23Speaker 5: matches here. They'll now be allowed to arrive two days
- 38:26Speaker 5: ahead of playing. During the first week of FIFA World
- 38:29Speaker 5: Cup activities in Florida, first responders are dealing with dozens
- 38:32Speaker 5: of heat-related incidents, At Hard Rock Stadium, dozens have died
- 38:36Speaker 5: in Europe from the kind of intense heat that Americans
- 38:39Speaker 5: are more accustomed to. Most of Europe.
- 38:41Speaker 1: Doesn't really do air conditioning.
- 38:43Speaker 4: We know at least 40 people have died since Thursday alone.
- 38:46Speaker 1: Among them, sadly, two young children who were left in
- 38:48Speaker 1: the back of a hot car.
- 38:50Speaker 2: But the majority have died drowning, swimming in unsupervised water.
- 38:55Speaker 5: James Longman reporting from London. Today, France recorded its hottest
- 38:59Speaker 5: ever average temperature. You're listening to ABC News.