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Project Hail Mary: Masterpieces or Not? · The M&M Experience

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  Speaker 1: That is Rufus nineteen seventy four. Shaka Khan. Shaka Khan
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  Speaker 1: out fronts she is and she's seventy three. So happy
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  Speaker 1: for Tato shotgun.
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  Speaker 2: And nothing good, nothing good about to happen.
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  Speaker 3: This is a conversation I've been dreading since about nine
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  Speaker 3: thirty last night.
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  Speaker 2: Let me just get it out of the way.
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  Speaker 1: For what reasons and on what issue?
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  Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I treasure our friendship, and I
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  Speaker 3: don't want to be the guy who who bags on
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  Speaker 3: a movie that you obviously love. I know Project He'll
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  Speaker 3: Marry is in your wheelhouse. I know that they set
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  Speaker 3: all kinds of records. People are flocking to the theater.
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  Speaker 2: Did you go?
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  Speaker 3: I went last night, and I resisted calling you because
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  Speaker 3: I wanted to call you, and I thought, I don't
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  Speaker 3: look our friendship. Our friendship is too important. So here's
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  Speaker 3: all I'll say, which might apply to the Trump tweet
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  Speaker 3: about Robert Muller. If you don't have something nice to
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  Speaker 3: say about something, maybe don't say it, because frankly, you
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  Speaker 3: called it.
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  Speaker 2: You call it a masterpiece.
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  Speaker 1: I did.
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  Speaker 2: I did. Oh boy, Okay.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not going to go there. I'm not
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  Speaker 3: going to go there, but you know, knock yourself out.
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  Speaker 1: Good for you about this A thousand times. Everything is
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  Speaker 1: a matter of taste. Everything is a matter of taste.
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  Speaker 1: It is totally subjective. So what was it in this film?
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  Speaker 1: I can't find anybody that what was? Well, I know
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  Speaker 1: what it was. I know what it was. You ready,
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  Speaker 1: I know what it was. Now that the details of
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  Speaker 1: this will dis every from here.
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  Speaker 2: Was it everything?
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  Speaker 1: You didn't care? You didn't care, That's what. That's what.
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  Speaker 1: There have been some great movies that have come out
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  Speaker 1: the English patients. I don't know where. I'm sure there
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  Speaker 1: are great works of art, but I just didn't care.
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  Speaker 1: There have been some movies that are A B a
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  Speaker 1: B minus, but I care deeply made them better for me.
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  Speaker 1: So it's always I'll never be offended by something you
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  Speaker 1: don't like.
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  Speaker 2: I just don't want to be that guy.
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  Speaker 3: I know that I get disappointed where there's something I
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  Speaker 3: really like and I tell you about it, or tell
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  Speaker 3: my dear friends or my family, and they don't like it.
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  Speaker 3: Then I get disappointed, and then I feel and look
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  Speaker 3: and I guarantee you it's got to be me. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: it only did about two billion dollars at the box
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  Speaker 3: office this weekend, so it.
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  Speaker 1: Must be me so well, just in a sentence, I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to know.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, don't make me do it.
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  Speaker 1: And in fact, they're spoiled. There may be spoilers in
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  Speaker 1: your own right.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I'm afraid to do.
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  Speaker 3: I will ask you, though, off the air, because you're
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  Speaker 3: gonna have to interpret the ending for me, because because okay,
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  Speaker 3: because I'm not entirely sure what the ending meant, I'll
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  Speaker 3: ask you off the air.
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  Speaker 2: No, that's enough of that. Let's move on.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm right though, Right, everything that was put on
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  Speaker 1: the screen, all the all the acting, all the directing,
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  Speaker 1: all the writing, it was what it was. But ultimately,
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  Speaker 1: after the credits rolled, you just did not care. It
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  Speaker 1: just did not reach out and touch you and wrap
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  Speaker 1: around you. You just didn't care.
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  Speaker 3: Correct, I'm not sure not caring would be the right
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  Speaker 3: way to describe it. Visceral, visceral raid. Two and a
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  Speaker 3: half hours of my life I'll never get back.
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  Speaker 1: It is. OK. Let's let's do Trump and let's do
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  Speaker 1: you know.
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  Speaker 3: Let me conclude, I'll do We'll do Trump, and I'm
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  Speaker 3: glad we're tackling this because look, we shouldn't go the
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  Speaker 3: Fox News route. You saw the Fox News route. They're
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  Speaker 3: probably smarter than we are because they didn't even mention it.
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  Speaker 3: They went the whole weekend not one mention of a
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  Speaker 3: pretty significant tweet.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's not like you can ignore it.
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  Speaker 3: And if you saw the Sunday morning news shows, except
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  Speaker 3: for Fox News, that's all they were apoplectic about. Course,
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  Speaker 3: And by the way, your take on it, Mark as
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  Speaker 3: Usual is pitch perfect. You know, Spare me all the
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  Speaker 3: pearl clutching and the righteous indignation. On the other hand,
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  Speaker 3: not my favorite thing. On the other hand, this is
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  Speaker 3: a guy that, for all of his strengths, is lacking
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  Speaker 3: an empathy gene.
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  Speaker 2: There's a gene that he lacks.
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  Speaker 3: Look at look at the death of of Rob Reiner,
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  Speaker 3: look at the death of John McCain.
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  Speaker 2: He's got a he's got a deficiency in that department.
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  Speaker 2: I think.
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  Speaker 3: I think for him it's personal. For him, it's it's his.
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  Speaker 1: Enemies he has. He has an enormous empathy instinct. Look
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  Speaker 1: at him around kids, look at him around gold Star families.
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  Speaker 1: He Mark mart I has apathy gene. But it's constantly suspendable.
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  Speaker 1: If somebody has come after him.
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  Speaker 3: I've got a clip of him with a gold of
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  Speaker 3: a gold star dad, a man who lost his son,
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  Speaker 3: and explains the humanity that he saw all over Trump's
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  Speaker 3: face when Trump was trying to express his condolences to
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  Speaker 3: this grieving father. In fact, you can compare that to
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  Speaker 3: the woman who was offended when she met with Joe
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  Speaker 3: Biden because Joe Biden, when he met with her a
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  Speaker 3: gold star mom said well, you know my son died too.
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  Speaker 3: You know he does that, and she was so offended
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  Speaker 3: by that. So there, Yeah, you're right, it's not like
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  Speaker 3: he is void of empathy. But boy, if let's just
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  Speaker 3: put it this way, if somebody dies who has crossed him,
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  Speaker 3: he doesn't care.
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  Speaker 1: It will not be warm and fuzzy.
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  Speaker 2: He's not.
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  Speaker 3: He does not have that warm, fuzzy gene. And it's
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  Speaker 3: just a matter look at he is who he is
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  Speaker 3: and and and there's not a single political leader that
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  Speaker 3: we have loved who hasn't had a plenty of shortcomings.
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  Speaker 3: Name one, no, of course, and usually one, and usually
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  Speaker 3: they're way more important than this.
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  Speaker 1: For those unfamiliar. And I'll do it one more time.
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  Speaker 1: So Robert Muller dies, and Robert Muller himself had a
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  Speaker 1: life of long and admirable service until the end. The
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  Speaker 1: reason everybody knows who Robert Muller is is the witch hunt,
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  Speaker 1: the hoax, the Russia rush, Russia nonsense. He tried to
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  Speaker 1: destroy a man's life, destroy a presidency, and so that's
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  Speaker 1: enormously bad. So dies at the age of eighty one.
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  Speaker 1: And Trump's truth social post was Robert Muller just died. Good.
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad he's dead. He could no longer hurt innocent
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  Speaker 1: people President Donald J. Trump.
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  Speaker 2: So it's probably telling.
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  Speaker 3: It's probably telling that after the post dropped, most people
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  Speaker 3: who saw it, who are Trump supporters, didn't believe it
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  Speaker 3: was real. I thought it was They said, they said
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  Speaker 3: it was bablon b it was Ai.
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  Speaker 2: It was fake.
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  Speaker 3: It was And people were saying, he didn't say that.
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  Speaker 3: They went to Groc and Groc said, no, there's no
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  Speaker 3: proof that he said that. And then people were saying, see,
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  Speaker 3: see Grok said he didn't say that, He wouldn't say that,
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  Speaker 3: he didn't say that, he couldn't say that, but he
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  Speaker 3: did say it because that's part of who he is now.
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  Speaker 3: He whether you love him or hate him, you cannot
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  Speaker 3: change the consequential nature of this man's presidency. Close your eyes.
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  Speaker 3: If you get mad at a tweet, and he's got
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  Speaker 3: plenty of tweets that make you crazy, close your eyes
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  Speaker 3: and picture President Kamala Harrison what the border would look
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  Speaker 3: like right now. Close your eyes and think about the crime.
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  Speaker 3: Here we go again, another beautiful innocent girl in Chicago
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  Speaker 3: shot dead. Eighteen year old Loyola student Sheridan Gorman. Everybody
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  Speaker 3: know her name, shot in the head and killed once
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  Speaker 3: again by an illegal immigrant. Now imagine that on steroids
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  Speaker 3: if it were President Kamala Harris. So you got to
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  Speaker 3: just take the good with the bad, I think.
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  Speaker 1: But it's all price we pay for the presidency we have.
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  Speaker 1: I will gladly pay it. I will not because you
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  Speaker 1: know what people are saying. It's like, heye Trump supporters,
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  Speaker 1: what do you think? Now? What do you think? Now?
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  Speaker 1: What am I supposed to say? I wish Mitt Romney
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  Speaker 1: were president or I wish Kamala Harris were president. No,
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  Speaker 1: I'll of course not take it. I'll take it and
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  Speaker 1: be blessed and thrilled. Thank god he won. Every day
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  Speaker 1: on moments like this, will I say, wow, sir? Not good?
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  Speaker 2: Sure?
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  Speaker 1: I will and then I get on with my dad.
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  Speaker 3: If you had a crystal ball and you knew that
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  Speaker 3: he was going to say crude things once in a
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  Speaker 3: while or boorish things by tweet, and you would see
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  Speaker 3: that a order has been completely sealed, that we are
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  Speaker 3: trying and we are close to eradicating an evil, evil
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  Speaker 3: regime like Iran. A guy is a fire. And how
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  Speaker 3: about this brilliant move of sending ice to our nation's airports.
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  Speaker 3: Ye oh my gosh, I mean, I mean they wanted
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  Speaker 3: ice out. Now they're going to have to pass through
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  Speaker 3: ice on their way out of town. How rich is that?
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  Speaker 3: It's the best, It's the it's it's a it's a
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  Speaker 3: combination of troll and mic drop and perfection. And by
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  Speaker 3: the way, once again, you know the old meme about
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  Speaker 3: for my next next trick, I'm gonna get democrats. They
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  Speaker 3: got Trump dressed up in the magician outfit for his
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  Speaker 3: next trick. He's going to get Democrats to complain about
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  Speaker 3: trying to make airport security more efficient. Right now with ice,
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  Speaker 3: they're complaining about that. They they're acting like ice is
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  Speaker 3: just gonna start like firing guns and and and they're
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  Speaker 3: because they got nothing they're such liars. They go on
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  Speaker 3: the sun morning shows and they say, we have we
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  Speaker 3: have put together seven proposals to fully fund tsay, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: as long as we defund ICE exactly, we know what
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  Speaker 3: you're doing, and you're not gonna defund ice. ICE is
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  Speaker 3: funded through twenty twenty nine. Now, the American people are
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  Speaker 3: either gonna be stupid enough to accept the lie, or
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  Speaker 3: we're gonna see you right through it. We're gonna blame Democrats,
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  Speaker 3: or we're gonna win in the midterms.
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  Speaker 1: What's it gonna be good percent? It all depends. It
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  Speaker 1: all lies in the months and months and months ahead.
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  Speaker 1: And having invoked ICE, let us dip back into the
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  Speaker 1: culture for one second, because you had an interesting tweet
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  Speaker 1: to me where you said I tried to warn you
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  Speaker 1: about something, try to warn me about what it involves.
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  Speaker 1: One of my favorite shows, The Pit magnificent medical drama.
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  Speaker 1: Here's what happens. It's chaos, it's an er, It's an
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  Speaker 1: unbelievable show, fantastic, it's it's just superb on every level.
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  Speaker 1: Most recent episode, the ICE guys bring in a wounded
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  Speaker 1: an injured person who is being detained, so the er
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  Speaker 1: has a job to do. The Ice guys have a
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  Speaker 1: job to do. Instantly, it plays out to three or
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  Speaker 1: four minutes of the worst smear against Ice agents. The
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  Speaker 1: Ice guys are mean and boorish. I'm prepared to stipulate
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  Speaker 1: some of the Ice guys can be mean and bores.
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  Speaker 1: So far, no so whatever, Okay, mild irritant so far.
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  Speaker 1: But then as they are trying to do their job
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  Speaker 1: and move her on out of there, a doctor or
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  Speaker 1: I guess male nurse intervenes. Things get rapidly escalated. They
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  Speaker 1: arrest the guy in the er. Doctor Robbie played by
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  Speaker 1: the great Noah Wiley says we'll get you out. We'll
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  Speaker 1: get you out, and then Doctor Robbie delivers this scathing
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  Speaker 1: scolding of the Ice agent. Can't you see that I'm
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  Speaker 1: losing doctors and losing patients. They're all running scared from
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  Speaker 1: the er. Well why would anybody run? Do they think
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  Speaker 1: that Ice is going to be checking papers in the er?
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  Speaker 1: It was the It was not just stupid, It was
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  Speaker 1: an intentional smear of Ice. It was a horrible moment
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  Speaker 1: in a show that I otherwise love. And you then tweeted,
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  Speaker 1: hey tried to warn you warn me about what.
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  Speaker 3: I just picking on you. I just I just don't
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  Speaker 3: like you. I mean I watched it and I was like, oh, okay, tedious,
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  Speaker 3: we got the we've got the angst written doctor and
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  Speaker 3: the and the and the mean hospital supervisor character, and.
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  Speaker 1: It's like it's otherwise.
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  Speaker 3: Well, look, I'm the guy that wanted to hang myself
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  Speaker 3: after Project Hail Mary.
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  Speaker 2: So you know what do I know about? What do
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  Speaker 2: I know about entertainment?
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  Speaker 1: I will tell you that disliking the Pit and even
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  Speaker 1: disliking Project Hail Mary, I can get it is they're
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  Speaker 1: an acquired taste or a type of thing. You know
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  Speaker 1: what I just can't still get past. You know what
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  Speaker 1: I still can't get past, you know is Mazilla marvelous,
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  Speaker 1: marvelous missus Masel. It's sixties New York show business and
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  Speaker 1: you hated it?
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  Speaker 2: Well all I know.
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  Speaker 3: Well, speaking of show business, can I just conclude by
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  Speaker 3: sharing the love of a couple. I'm not mentioning their name,
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  Speaker 3: but they are from the Dallas Fort Worth metroplex who
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  Speaker 3: ponied up eighteen thousand dollars to come from Dallas from
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  Speaker 3: the Dallas area, and she is a lovely lady. Her
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  Speaker 3: husband sounds delightful they wanted to help kids who are
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  Speaker 3: our poorest community. With their eighteen thousand dollars donation, they're
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  Speaker 3: going to provide three hundred and sixty people, fellow humans,
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  Speaker 3: with clean drinking water for an entire year, and I'm
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  Speaker 3: by the way, so keep it going. Let's see how
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  Speaker 3: far over our goal we can be. The goal was
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  Speaker 3: forty and you guys helped, and you helped with our dinner.
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  Speaker 3: We're gonna our lunch. We're gonna take a bunch of
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  Speaker 3: people to lunch. That those details are soon to unfold.
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  Speaker 3: So thank you, thank you. We're so blessed to be
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  Speaker 3: surrounded by such great people. And they all loved project
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  Speaker 3: Hail Mary. I just know it in my heart, Yes
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  Speaker 3: they did, because that's it. It's the depth, all the depths.
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  Speaker 1: We begin. As we began, you said nothing good will
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  Speaker 1: lay ahead, then all was going to be all unpleasantness.
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  Speaker 1: And look look what we finished. Look at the possibly a.
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  Speaker 3: Little hyperbole on my part, maybe a little hyper maybe
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  Speaker 3: maybe maybe every day's got a good day. With the
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  Speaker 3: No time construct us. Matt Ron does not wave it
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  Speaker 3: at us to wrap it up.
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  Speaker 1: We just got all the time in the world idea.
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  Speaker 2: Come to think of it, maybe we should reassess.
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