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Weekend Recap, Iowa to the Sweet 16, Cyclones too! Eliot Clough from Tampa on the Hawkeyes win · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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All right, Good afternoon. Welcome, Millary Condon on a
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Monday. The Iowa Sports Radio Network,
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Trent Condon, Ken Miller talking sports with you for the next
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couple of hours. We appreciate you starting your
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afternoon here with us wherever you are listening.
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And what if we could promise this to be?
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Couldn't get any better. I've just grinned him from ear
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to ear last night going into Sunday, hoping we get one more
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team through so we'll be able to drag this out another week.
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Lo and behold, we get to things are good.
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Here's what's coming up on our program.
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Elliot Clough is in Tampa. Not sure if he's headed back to
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Tampa, He's going to head right to Houston, but Elliot Clough
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will join us 24/7 Sports hawkeyeinsider.com in the arena
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last night. We'll pick his brain coming up
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here in 1/2 an hour. And then Bill Seals, he was at
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the Enterprise Center all weekend watching Iowa State as
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they take care of Kentucky. I, I could watch this team play
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defense on a loop. I really and truly could.
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It is the thing of beauty. Bill Seals on Iowa State And
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then we'll just BS our way until 2:00.
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And what a week to be doing just that is both of our local teams.
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It is Iowa State getting Tennessee and Iowa and Nebraska,
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which brings Siple back into the mix and his comments from a
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couple of weeks back. We'll get sip one day this week
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to get the Nebraska side of things, but man, what what a
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weekend. You know, there's no
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Cinderella's in the tournament has changed.
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I don't think there's any denying that.
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But my good God this was a phenomenal 4 days wasn't.
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It talk about delivering. It absolutely happened once
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again him this tournament, the way that it's set up the the
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bracket, just the perfect symmetry of everything, the way
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it culminates and just so quickly we're down to 16 teams.
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It happened so fast over the course of four days and the
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excitement, the back and forth nature, what you're going to
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get, the potential upsets, a couple of upsets in there at
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minimum, and that plucky underdog.
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Iowa. The Iowa Hawkeyes.
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So, Joe, we have to start there. And as as good as I was, they
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were and they really were, nobody saw this Iowa team
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getting this from a few of you. OK, I'll give you that.
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Nobody's maybe a little bit over the top, but on one seed, a
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defending champion, A-Team, we all know the background.
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We all know where they're from. For them to get there and do
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what they did. It's just it's just remarkable.
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And and Ben McCollum, if you weren't sure, I don't know what
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it's going to take to convince you.
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This guy is so good. I love the fact that he went and
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got back right back into it with that SOB coach in Florida you
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mentioned. He's not very popular.
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No Todd Golden. Yeah, yeah, he is AI.
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Now I get it. Now I get it.
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I guess I didn't watch enough of them to realize the reputation
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that he's got, but I I can understand why people hate him.
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Yeah, and there's some people think you should be in prison.
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He had Title 9 investigations and he had stalking charges.
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Back when he was on the West. Coast and maybe one of the
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funniest tweets I saw yesterday when Iowa jumped out to a 1712
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lead at the time out said Todd Golden's got to be very upset
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that the Hawkeyes got to the teens before he did.
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Yeah, how nice. Nice in a way.
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Hilarious. Yeah, it was one that, yeah,
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apparently was allegedly stalking young ladies on campus
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as his coach when he took over there at Florida.
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But that aside, what I'd loved, and I want to start there, Todd
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Golden upset about the foul, Ben McCollum not backing down.
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No, Ben McCollum, you saw it from the way they played.
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Yep, you saw it from what they did throughout the.
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Barclay was right, Iowa was the better team on the floor.
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They were the better team. This wasn't a game where they
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had 15-3 pointers. No, this wasn't a game where
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they just got a lot of things that they got a good whistle and
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they shot 33. No, no, no, no, no.
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That's not what this was. This was a team that went in
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against the best frontline in America and they out toughed
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him. They did, and they and they
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forced them to change their game and I was in foul trouble and
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Florida's settling for threes. Absolutely.
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I mean, that was I, I was a biggest head scratcher as
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anything. And Florence got some dudes.
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I mean, you know what? The more I watch, the more I'm
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impressive. That hug or however you say his
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name, HA, Hulk. He's a hell of a player.
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And of course, your namesake, Condon.
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Let's talk about the foul, about the play itself.
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I thought he was going to get kicked out.
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Yeah, I did too. And I could understand why the
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CBS, what who had the call? I would say it was on CBS, it
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was 245. Whatever the announcers, the
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guys that were doing the play by play, they continued on it like,
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like Vulgaris is gone. And when you first saw it, I
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thought, Oh my God, what's he doing?
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I thought the exact same thing until we got the angle from
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behind. Yes, that showed that.
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He hit the ball. He was at the ball.
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Now, can you close a fist? Whether you whether you connect
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or not, you can. I mean, he threw a punch, but he
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punched the ball. And you punched the ball out.
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But he did have a close fist. Is that a punch or is that a
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basketball play? Was ruled a basketball play by
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the letter of the logical Garris.
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Get lucky. I think you could maybe paint it
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that way, but it went to the ball if there was any contact at
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all, Even with the chest, even with the.
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Chest, he's out. He's gone, absolutely, and I
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probably would have been upset as a Hawkeye fan about that.
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But because it didn't, and I don't know if it was something
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innate, if it was just that realization as he's winding up,
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oh, I got to go to the ball. I don't know what it was, but it
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was incredibly lucky because absolutely.
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And obviously without fool Garrison that game.
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No, he was. He was unbelievable.
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He was tremendous, perfect at the free throw line, obviously
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the shot at the end, definitely. And even the first time you saw
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that angle like, well, did he did he hit the chest and he saw
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the second time he hit the ball. Yeah, but it took two or three
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times people watching it until I thought, you know, maybe we we
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are going to get a break here. Absolutely.
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And he is going to be able to remain in the.
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Game and then they finally started to walk it back a little
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bit and like, no, he's, he's going the ball.
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You know. You can punch the ball from
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behind, yeah. So I would think maybe that's
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the justification behind it. Well, whatever, it worked.
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Well, for the Hawks, he. Stays in the game and just hits
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a I mean, talk about swinging a pair for him to just and what is
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Florida doing playing that type of defense at that point?
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That was awful. Now, after the game, Golden said
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they were trying to foul. But why up two?
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So this pressure, this is an analytical thing and the
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analytics say with the two point lead, basically worst case
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scenario is you're going overtime.
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That's the worst case scenario. In that situation it it's.
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You know if he makes them both you go to OT if.
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You we got and you get the ball with 7 seconds left with a
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chance to win it. So that's the thought process
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behind it and that's what they wanted to do.
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This is like us 15 years ago when we were talking about the
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follow up three thing, you know, and it's actually a conversation
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in my mind that actually does make sense.
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OK, first of all, the free throw shooter.
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When you put it like when you put it in Regard, yeah, I get
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it. The combined guys, I think on
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the floor, I think I heard last night I read something. 70.
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Percent, yeah, it's like 67%. So 2 out of 3.
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All right, Even if they hit two, you still got an opportunity and
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your chances have been winning increase by this percent.
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So I understood it when I kind of heard it and saw the math
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behind it. I'm like, that actually does
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make sense. And I kind of like that going
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forward. Unfortunately came from that
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creep Todd Golden. But that aside, that was what he
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wanted to do. You go through that play though,
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and there were so many things that I love first.
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The pass from Cooper. Incredible, incredible hit.
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Starts perfect first. Starting the fake to the left,
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run back to the right, hit him on by stride.
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That is the best pass. We haven't seen an Iowa
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quarterback make a pass like that, says Chuck Long.
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I mean that that pass was perfect.
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He got him in stride. He's already got three people
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beat up the floor. And then how cast to make a
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decision? Which way am I going to go?
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Obviously you have to take Bennett Sturtz, you can't leave
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him. Because he's going to the
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basketball. And he's going to go to the rim.
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So you have that component, but maybe my favorite and as we wrap
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this all together in the 27 years in 1999 and then just how
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many times I've heard to have you hear that from Cyclo fans
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and everybody else and. You think you're sick of it?
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How about Husker fans? Absolutely.
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And it's over 1999 and I, I got a list I want to get to here at
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some point. But the pass from Bennett
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Sturtz, a bounce pass, the bounce.
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Pass. Full circle Dr. Tom, the bounce
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pass giving full gears just that extra moment to settle his feet,
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to get his feet there finally. Not the flash shot we've seen
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from Al. So much beautiful art behind it.
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Got his feet. And if it wouldn't have gone in
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Trent, there were two Hawks standing under the basket by
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themselves. And had a chance to get the
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stick back, even if it didn't go in, it was absolutely perfect.
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And then the other side, you're down, you got a one point lead.
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3 seconds. So what was the what?
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They put some forehead four and a half, 4.5.
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Yeah, they put it back on there and you do it with defense, kill
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Combs. Now, McCullum, after the game, I
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really got a chuckle out of this, he said.
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Kind of what was the defensive game plan on that last play?
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Make him turn, don't let him go right?
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What happened? He went right, he went right.
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You know exactly what you didn't want.
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But Combs was right there with them.
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Lee probably his only shot to get that thing up as he would
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have to step back instead of getting all the way to the rim.
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You deny him to get to the rim. And he had too much momentum
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going to the rim. Absolutely.
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To be able to even get a jump stop and step back, it wasn't
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there. Combs was tremendous on that
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one. He tried to throw the pass, the
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the buzzer sounds, Jack jumps into my arms, is the celebration
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and just all of it embodied together, but with a bounce pass
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to win it. I just thought it was that full
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circle. Moment that's that's that's
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really cool. I never thought about it that
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way. How about Koch and the and the
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chomp going by the bench? Kill Combs had a few of those
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and saw House and he had a couple.
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Well earned, boys, well earned. Do what you got to do.
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So I told you about my list and I couldn't sleep last night.
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Now I've been sick for, I don't know, five days now.
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A. Pretty good five days to be.
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Yes, a lot of couch time, as you can imagine, which was great
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because I absolutely loved every single moment of the NCAA
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tournament when it culminates like that.
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As you can imagine, my love of college basketball and I've said
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to all of our listeners, I think everyone knows the story.
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The reason I'm a sports fan that I am is because of Iowa
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basketball. This is where my love of sport
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came from. I did not grow up in a big sport
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household. My dad, truck driver, my mom,
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not a big sport fan. This was something that I just
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globbed on to as a youngster, and it was Iowa basketball.
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It was those Thursday nights in the Big 10, the Saturday games.
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It was the only sports during the winter time that you could
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watch during the week. We didn't have cable, didn't
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have a satellite dish. That was it.
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Trent nobody did. It was a completely different
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time and that was it for sports during the week.
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It was such a highlight moment during January and February,
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March, That's all that it was about.
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That's where I was. And as I was sitting up last
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night and reading everything and listening to everything and just
11:04
incredibly, just so elated because this is the team I've
11:08
told you, you, you saw, you saw me for 10 minutes back in the
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Big 10 tournament. I'm a psychopath during Iowa
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basketball games. I just am.
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I, I lose my mind. It's I'm not that way for Iowa
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football. I'm not like that for the Bears
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or the Twins. It's another level.
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And I know it's something innate and probably some psychologist
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could tell me the reason why, but that is the reality behind
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it. So I'm sitting up and I'm just
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thinking of these last 27 years and I go through and I got a
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list of, I don't know, 30 things here. 1999 told you.
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Drives me nuts. March situations.
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Remember Steve Alford after they make the NIT?
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We've been involved in March situations.
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March situations instead of the lack of making a Sweet 16.
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Nick Lachey looking like AD bag over on the sideline as they
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lose to Cincinnati in the first round.
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Northwestern State. Richmond, Oregon getting a COVID
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buy. The only team in NCAA history
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since the expanded bracket that gets a buy into the round of 32.
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The play in game against Tennessee and all the kerluffle
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that came out of that. The Fran Fade.
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Wives, coaches, wives in general.
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Alford's arrogance. Lickliders overall just
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awfulness. Fran's refusal to adapt
12:13
defensively. The Orange Crush takeover at
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Carver Hawkeye, the highlight of the Licklider era. 4336 wins
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over Sparty, Whiny kids, nepotism, Ted Valentine's
12:24
screwjob in the Big 10 tournament.
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Ben Brust. Haven't watched that guy play
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for a national championship. Marcus Page, Xavier Foster, DJ
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Carton, Charles Bugs, Amir Harris for Nebraska, Tayshawn
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Prince who shot 28% from three that whole season outside of
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against Iowa when he hits 63 pointers and Clifton Lee's
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corner 3 pointer from Northwestern State.
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All of it gets pushed to the side.
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How did you remember that dude's name from Northwestern state?
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I got a lot of scar tissue, dude.
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I got a lot of scar tissue. Was that a 314?
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It was on the black court in Michigan, Oakland University
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hosting on Saint Patrick's Day. A lot of green bear after that
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one. I bet to what Oh, what a game,
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what an incredible game. And then the 4.5 seconds to have
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to watch that go off the clock just thinking, Oh my God, you
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felt you just delighted to see the ball go through the basket.
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But 4.5 still to go. Let's get the Iowa State.
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And they did so without Jefferson and the way they play
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defense after they came out, they Kentucky got to him early
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and then Iowa State just decided to to play Iowa State
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basketball. I thought maybe one of the
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biggest plays in the game was late in the first half.
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I'm, I don't know what there was left.
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It was 3023, I want to say, and there's a ball underneath the
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basket and I want to say it was Toure.
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There's a couple of guys going forward, eventually gets to
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Montjilovic, hits a three to cut it to 30 to 26.
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I thought that was huge that they were able to get that ball,
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but it was, it was so much more than that.
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I can't get over how much better Killian Toure has become in this
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last three weeks. This was a guy that you could
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almost not put on the floor because he was such an offensive
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liability. He has got an injection of
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confidence or whatever it has been that has propelled him to
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not only doing what he does on the defensive end of the floor,
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to now be a legitimate threat when Iowa State's on offense a
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career high from Tamen Lipsy Nate High Z, and that drove me
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nuts. You're not alone.
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Right, Nate High Z doing what he did, Manchilovich obviously
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pleaded. You got to love what he brings
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to the floor and doing so without Jefferson.
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And by the way, there was a tweet on Saturday night and I'm
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not going to say who tweeted it out, but he is the biggest media
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name in Iowa State media. OK, tweets out to Munch that the
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Jefferson. He feels pretty good that
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Jefferson's going to play. I want to know what was behind
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it. Seems like something has to be
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more behind it. I have to agree with that.
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Because. That was incredibly
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irresponsible. When you're that friendly with
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the coaching staff, that leads to a lot of questions.
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A lot of questions. It also leads to a lot of
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manipulation potentially as well.
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Right, right. But he was in no way, shape or
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form going to play, as we would come to find out.
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So that that bothered me. But that aside, doing so without
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Jefferson and now getting an opportunity to play Tennessee, a
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team that is a nice team, but I was stationed with the
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basketball game. With or without Jefferson.
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Yeah, absolutely right. Their pathway to playing in
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Indianapolis is all their form. It's.
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Right. It truly is.
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It really is. It's got it's easier than
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Iowa's. I think Iowa beats Nebraska, but
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then you. Know Houston and.
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Houston's in Houston. They just beat Florida in Tampa,
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right? Good point.
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That's a different, that's a different animal, especially the
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way that they're playing so. And the way they defend.
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And the way that they defend, I could watch Iowa State on the
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loop. I really could play defense.
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It's so much fun to watch these guys.
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They are so tenacious and the way that they switch off guys
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and and move their feet and just refuse to to give up on a play,
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it's truly remarkable. I look at this a couple of
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comments that you started with Tori and it's not even a couple
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of weeks. It started with the Arizona
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game. That's when for whatever reason,
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the aggressiveness came back. He was 5 and 9 in that game
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before that, even in the tournament.
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One O 4 against Texas Tech, one O 5 from the floor against
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Arizona. Yeah, it.
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Was the Friday night against Arizona?
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Yeah, and that one, he was hunting a shot.
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They were running plays for him, They were going through him a
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little bit more and whatever it is has turned into a completely
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different guy. The Tennessee State game, he was
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toying with him. He's doing whatever he wanted
16:48
and LED to Tory who's always an elite level defender, but even
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feels like that defense has gone up another level.
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Just being evolved it, it reminds me completely different
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circumstances. You remember the Bulls in the
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90s and they dump it into Cartwright the first couple of
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possessions just to get him involved, get him going a little
17:06
bit. All right, all right, not going
17:07
to touch the ball now for about the next 40 minutes or so, but
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we're going to get you involved that way, get you a couple of
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shots and now go play defense and rebound and different
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circumstances, yes, But just getting him involved a little
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bit offensively, it's taken that 98th percentile of defense up to
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100th percentile for Tory because he has just been so good
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on that end of the floor as he always is.
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I don't know how many times during the summer we're talking
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about. Can we just get a fully healthy
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season from Tammy? Lindsey and we didn't, and he
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deserves it and blah, blah, blah.
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Yeah. Yeah, but as that's unfolding
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yesterday and 1st, he's keeping him in it early.
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Without him, how ugly that thing could have been in the 1st 10.
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Minutes It was ugly in the 1st 12 minutes of the game it was.
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Ugly. They're down 20 to. 8 and
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couldn't make a shot to save their lives.
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There was nothing there. He was the only thing that could
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any person that could generate anything.
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But then it just come in and as they're opening things up and
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he's still doing things and he's knocking down shots.
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Just that moment for a guy from Ames, just an incredibly easy
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guy to root for. The hard work, the tenacious
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defense, everything that goes on the team and lips he plays.
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When you have something named after you, when you're making
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those kind of things, to have that kind of moment for him I
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thought was absolutely incredible and a great thing to
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see the way they play defense and the way they're so
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connected. Mark Pope said it before the
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game and you can take TJ and five guys at the Y and then in a
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week they're going to be playing great defense.
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He's right and you can see it because I'm in chill.
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A bitch is not a great individual defender.
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No, but you have to want to do it and he wants to do it.
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He's buying in. They're able to.
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Just find guys and connect them in a way.
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And even in this new era of college sports, when you have
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all this turnover year after year after year, identifying
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these guys, finding these guys and then getting them to be able
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to connect on that end of the floor every single year, it's
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not easy. This isn't.
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Oh, yeah, We've been playing basketball together since we
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were freshmen. No, that's not what this is.
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It's new parts every single year.
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And yet he continually finds a way.
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How connected they are, how difficult they made it.
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They made. Speaking of YMCA teams, I mean,
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that's what Kentucky looked like a long time.
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They had no idea what they wanted to do.
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They. Didn't want to be.
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There they were, so out of sort they were.
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They had. A couple guys state opened up a
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10 point lead. It seemed like Kentucky.
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Just you know what, we're done. We're done here is just steal a
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line from Jon Bowen camp. It was just it was over at that
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point. They just wanted clock to run
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and Iowa State just continued to build and to build and to build
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on to this lead. Man, oh man, I don't want to get
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ahead of myself. I really I don't.
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But we're we've got two. We the state of Iowa has 222 of
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the Sweet 16 team still playing basketball.
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Absolutely remarkable. Let's get Devon in here and then
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we will. We're going to talk to Elliott
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Clef. Do you know if he's back?
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No, he can't be. Back.
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No, he's going to be at the airport when we talk.
20:00
Is he, is he coming back or is he going right to Houston?
20:03
Don't know what would you've done?
20:05
Well, depends, I'm sure on flights and I don't know how
20:07
much flexibility. It's got to be cheaper to fly
20:09
with things from town. Although you know what?
20:11
Doc Fuller texted me this You could have you could get a
20:16
flight last night to Houston after I would won like 1/2 hour
20:20
afterward non-stop Great great, great times non-stop for 400
20:27
and. 88 bucks I saw that and then he looked a little later
20:29
and. Then, well then he looked a
20:30
little later, but if you So he did the next step and looked at
20:34
the the get in price and it was apparent that Nebraska fans had
20:38
already started snapping up. Tickets and Houston fans.
20:41
Well, and Houston fans, but Nebraska fans will be.
20:44
Yes, they got to jump on things. Yeah, it's a tough ticket, but
20:48
it was relatively cheap, I guess flight at that time for.
20:53
So what did it go to when you looked?
20:55
It was like 880 something like that.
20:58
It jumped up quickly it. Must have.
21:00
Here's Devin. Devin, welcome to the program.
21:02
How are you you're? Doing good, gentlemen.
21:04
Happy Monday, Ben Kenny. Speaking of Nebraska fans, this
21:08
has got me a dream matchup for you.
21:10
And you know, it's so funny because last week you said
21:12
something along the lines of I wonder if anyone, you know, if
21:15
we sold anyone thinking how you're actually a Nebraska fan.
21:17
Yeah, I was one of them. I thought, I thought you were
21:19
actually one. I'm a.
21:21
Simple fan. Simple fan, That's fair.
21:24
I know he's getting a lot of heat.
21:26
And last thing I got really, I saw on Twitter, I think this
21:31
morning the, in my opinion, the greatest college basketball,
21:34
just basketball in general, Announcer Kevin Harlan is going
21:36
to be calling Iowa. And Robbie Hummel, Robbie
21:40
Hummel's doing the color and he's as good an analyst I think
21:43
there is in college basketball. So yeah, pretty good matchup.
21:46
This is this is amazing because I, I wasn't alive in 99.
21:49
I'm only 22. And so this is my first time
21:52
ever seeing Iowa in the Sweet 16.
21:54
And I talked to my dad and he remembers back in 99 and it was
21:58
just, I just think it's really cool for my generation to
22:01
finally get to witness this in Mccollum's first year.
22:04
I wasn't a big fan of McCaffrey, to be honest.
22:06
But I'm, I'm glad, I'm glad that I I get to witness this.
22:09
Last night was amazing. Thanks stuff, Devin, thanks for
22:11
the call. Yeah, I appreciate that.
22:14
Yeah, unbelievable. Mccollum's first year, and there
22:16
he is. You're #1.
22:17
You're #1 And what was the knock on McCaffrey?
22:21
Couldn't get them out of the first weekend.
22:22
Couldn't get over the hump. Could just never get.
22:25
Knock off the number one, the defending national champion.
22:28
This wasn't an easy path. This was not taken the road that
22:31
we talked about for weeks and weeks and weeks.
22:32
Get off that 8-9 game. Yeah, right.
22:36
We killed a lot of air time with that.
22:37
We killed a lot of air time with.
22:39
What's TJ doing? He's heard that this team is
22:41
tired. This team is spent.
22:43
They're exhausted. Sports talk radio.
22:46
We'll take your time. Elliot Cleft standing by.
22:49
We'll get to him. He's in Tampa.
22:51
Pick his brain on what he saw and what he sees going forward.
22:55
I can't believe the weekend. We.
22:56
What was the best game of the tournament?
22:58
Was it Vandy, Nebraska? That was right there, I mean.
23:01
That shots in Trent. Yes.
23:02
And we'll get to that. We got time after we wrap up in
23:05
the second hour and we'll get into that.
23:06
That might have been as as good a game as we saw all weekend.
23:09
Taking away the Iowa angle. Of course, right?
23:11
Yeah, that was so good. And the shot making late in that
23:15
game, Vandy coming back and how that ball doesn't fall in.
23:19
It was in and so overinflated basketballs as we've heard
23:23
throughout. And you just wonder if there's
23:25
just a a couple of less pounds of pressure in that basketball,
23:29
if we're talking about Iowa. Does it fall?
23:31
Does it fall? Because, man, it looked as
23:34
though it was good. If you look at Hoiberg on the
23:37
sideline, I think he thought that that ball was about to fall
23:40
through the net, but for Nebraska sake, it didn't.
23:45
And they move on and they await the Hawkeyes and they'll hit a
23:49
610 tip, 610 or 636. Thirty tips.
23:53
Let's get Hawkeye, Andy, then we'll go to break.
23:55
Andy, how are you? Oh.
23:57
I'm a static, how are you guys? Doing OK.
24:00
Hey, I got a I become buddies and I had the same story He
24:04
does. I grew up in a small town, no
24:06
cable, Buckeye basketball, TJ Roy, Eddie Bradlow, that that
24:12
was it. So there was so much.
24:14
I mean, I was crying last night. Wow, beat everything, Yeah.
24:19
So just to see the conscious react like they did.
24:21
Oh. It wasn't that great.
24:23
Yeah, that was great. I'm glad you mentioned that.
24:27
To Houston, we need black and gold down there to to outdo the
24:33
red and white of Nebraska so. Are you driving or flying?
24:36
Driving or flying? Well, I think we're going to
24:38
drive. How long?
24:39
It's not not bad though, right? It's not like it's a.
24:42
It's probably 12 to 13 hours and I'm going with two buddies so we
24:45
could split it up in 3-4 hours so.
24:48
Good job Andy, Enjoy the weekend man.
24:50
I hope you're there through Saturday, I really do.
24:53
Yeah, Appreciate it, Cohawks. Thank you.
24:55
Good to. Hear from you, Andy.
24:56
Would that be something if we get both our teams in the Elite
24:58
8? Can you imagine?
25:00
It's not a stretch. It's not a stretch.
25:02
Iowa State's favored. How many points is Iowa getting?
25:05
Not many, right? I mean, these are toss up games.
25:08
Toss up games. They beat Nebraska.
25:12
Yes on Valentine. Was it Valentine's Day That was
25:14
that week? They took them to overtime.
25:17
They. Took them to overtime in
25:18
Lincoln. These are two evenly matched
25:21
teams. Can you give McCullum 3 days to
25:24
prepare that game plan? Oh, having pulling Condon away,
25:29
the drop coverage that they made when?
25:30
They did. They continue to feed them down
25:32
low, especially when I was in foul trouble.
25:35
McCullum gets you to play his game.
25:37
I think he does. Do you know his record now in
25:41
the NC double? A It's crazy, Trent.
25:43
I had it here. Let me pull it back up because
25:45
it is unthinkable. 35 and eight all time in the NCAA tournament.
25:52
I know a lot of them are D2. You get that?
25:55
But the advantages at Northwest Missouri so.
25:57
Was he three and one in the big dance?
25:59
1 and one last year? 2 and all this year?
26:02
Yep. I get AI get a kick out of
26:05
people thinking that you know one of the blue bleds is going
26:07
to come after him. This was his dream job.
26:10
This is his. Dream job.
26:11
He's from there. That's.
26:12
What he wanted, that's what he was waiting for.
26:15
Yeah, what a weekend. Miller Condon, Iowa Sports Radio
26:20
Network. Hi, Miller Condon.
26:26
Welcome back, Iowa Sports Radio Network.
26:28
Just past 12:30 on a Monday, coming up with two off the
26:33
bench, Sean and Lucas take you until 5:00.
26:36
Read Tom momentarily, Elliot, Cliff, we will get to him, but
26:40
both of Reed and Tom have been very patient holding through the
26:42
break. Reed, you're up first.
26:43
Welcome to the program. How are you, Reed?
26:46
Hey, thanks for taking my call. I appreciate it.
26:49
One or do a little reminiscent real quick.
26:51
I'll keep it short. I go back to Steve Wade against
26:54
Georgetown in the 80, get to the Final Four.
26:58
And then I had Kevin Gamble against Oklahoma in the 87
27:02
semifinals and then Luke Wrecker in the Big 10 tournament.
27:07
I think it was Ohio State or Indiana.
27:09
And then of course, last night for Guerra's hitting that
27:12
against Florida. I rank them one through 4 but
27:15
for Garris right now is #1. That's a hell of a play, Reed.
27:19
Appreciate it. And all those Iowa games that
27:21
you watch paid off last night in a big, big way.
27:25
Yeah, I I appreciate again taking my call.
27:27
I appreciate it. Yeah, thank you, Reed.
27:28
Enjoy the rest of the tournament.
27:29
Good luck to your squad. Hello, Tom.
27:32
How are you? Hey fellas, good afternoon.
27:35
Doing very well huge Hawkeye fan also a cyclone fan with the
27:40
Cyclones didn't watch the game, but man, I got to think that
27:44
that TJ Ossel Berger and the Cyclones I mean they they play
27:48
the kind of basketball that that I could would not be surprised
27:52
to see them you know cut down the Nets after the final game.
27:57
I think that that Iowa I mean it was so incredible and and and
28:01
fun. I think people talk about
28:03
nationally about, well, Bennett Stewart's had enough another
28:05
offshooting night, you know, that Florida that he made with
28:08
whatever tennis that was huge. And, and you know, it's, it's
28:15
awesome the next day after to be able to continue to revel in
28:18
the, in the, the glory and the fun of, of those 2 results and
28:24
to hear it on national media with Dan Patrick.
28:27
And then to hear you guys break it down and, and, and comment on
28:31
it. Great opening segment.
28:34
Appreciate your work. Thank you, Tom, appreciate you
28:36
listening and you're welcome to call anytime as everybody is.
28:40
It was phenomenal. Trent's lining up Elliot Clough.
28:43
So I because I want to ask him a question, because I think for my
28:47
for for me watching the four days of the tournament, I think
28:50
the two most maybe impressive teams that I came away with, I'm
28:53
not I'm not going to rank one over the other.
28:55
The two most impressive teams I saw Trent Houston and Iowa
28:59
State. Yeah, I.
29:03
Think that's probably fair I. Mean Arizona, nice win last
29:06
night, but yeah, it was 4 points.
29:09
I never felt like, you know, the ones going down again.
29:11
Duke has struggled. Yes, Duke's been fortunate.
29:15
They got some very so whistles went their way.
29:17
Now they won by 30 in the end. They pulled away.
29:21
They pulled. Away, but they got some
29:22
fortunate whistles. Michigan.
29:25
Has it looked elite? No, not by any.
29:27
Means struggled against Howard, needed to pull away against
29:29
Saint Louis. I'll.
29:30
Say this Alabama got my attention last night.
29:32
Where they? That's what they are.
29:34
They make 3 pointers. They can.
29:35
They'll win, They'll win. When they went to the final
29:37
four, what do they do? They were incredibly hot from
29:39
three. What have they done in the first
29:40
two rounds? They're incredibly hot from
29:42
three. They are the simplest basketball
29:44
team to figure out. Yeah, we talked about looking at
29:46
the box score. Yeah, fair.
29:47
Give me one peek at the three-point percentage.
29:49
So. Shoot the hell out of the ball
29:50
against Michigan, Yeah, And then Iowa State will be waiting, yes.
29:54
Wouldn't that be something? Alabama, Iowa State, The Tony
29:56
Yelk Bowl, the Tony Yelk. But it was good.
29:59
A little payback it would be, yes, absolutely.
30:01
It would be. Here's Elliot Clough.
30:03
He's still in Tampa. Are you making a way back here?
30:05
Are you going right to Houston? I am headed back to Cedar
30:09
Rapids. I get there tonight at midnight
30:11
and then fly out tomorrow at 1:30.
30:14
That's awesome. Unpack, repack, off to the
30:17
airport, check in and away you go again.
30:19
What a game. What a game.
30:20
What was it like? I mean, let's give me an idea of
30:23
how many Hawkeye fans were in attendance.
30:26
Tough travel, obviously know that the one seeds going to be
30:29
waiting. It's tough to get to Florida in
30:31
spring break, even tougher to get home at the end of spring
30:34
break. But what was the what was the
30:36
turn out like for the black and gold gold lovers in the stands?
30:39
Elliot. Yeah, it was about one section
30:42
of Iowa fans and the rest of them were Gators.
30:45
It was it was full on an away game for Iowa playing just two
30:50
hours away from Tampa or excuse me, from Gainesville in in
30:53
Florida. And I mean, man, you guys saw
30:56
the first half, the scuffle, everything like that.
30:59
That entire arena was against Iowa, Ben McCullum and all
31:02
powerful Gary. It was it was insanity.
31:06
One of the best environments I've ever been in in college
31:09
basketball. I don't know if you guys saw the
31:11
video I got of Todd Golden, but but on Bach and I were we were
31:15
right there. So and and then we were behind
31:19
Ben for the Clemson game too. So we got front row seats to to
31:22
all of it. It was.
31:23
It was insanity. It was a road game against the
31:28
defending national champion, the best frontline for my money in
31:32
college basketball and I will went in there right away.
31:35
I know Sean is very much here guys, this kind of analytical
31:38
guy over there at Hawkeye insider and really diving into
31:41
the numbers. What they did, the game plan
31:44
that they came up with was absolutely incredible.
31:48
Moving Jinilu away from the away from the rim, moving Condon away
31:52
from the rim. That was a master class right
31:55
there. And you know, we've heard about
31:56
it for so long. Just this guy he is an exes nose
31:59
guru. The actual basketball game
32:01
planning, it is top notch. That was I think exhibit #1 If
32:05
Hawkeye fans were wondering Elliot, this was the one to show
32:08
them. This guy knows how to coach.
32:11
Yeah, I, I said it this this morning, we just recorded the
32:16
swarm cast at the Tampa Public Library, which is actually where
32:19
I'm calling you from. Be quiet.
32:23
But. Yeah, if you needed any further
32:26
affirmation that Ben McCollum was the guy for for Iowa, you
32:30
got it yesterday. I mean, it felt that way for a
32:33
good chunk of the season. It felt that way especially when
32:35
Iowa beat Indiana at Indiana and beating Darren De Breeze and on
32:40
the road. But I mean, you talk about XS
32:43
and OS, you can talk about that all you want.
32:45
I mean, it really does come down to the jimmies of the Joes
32:47
because what Iowa had to do was be a complete effort team.
32:55
I mean, like we all know Bennett hasn't been playing well, hasn't
32:58
played. But who steps up all moral pool
33:00
gear? Who steps up Kale Combs?
33:01
Who steps up Tavion Banks had one of his best name games, if
33:05
not the best game of his career when you needed him most.
33:07
And they really embodied Tavion Banks last night in my opinion,
33:10
with the physicality, embracing it, really just not getting
33:15
intimidated by Florida in the slightest.
33:18
Even when when things got scuffly, even when the arena is
33:21
95% Gators fans, they did not step down from the reigning
33:26
champs. And I mean, when when you look
33:28
at what Davion did, I mean, what he's been doing all season 2 is,
33:34
is sticking his nose in there and doing everything he can to
33:37
to push back on those bigs, even though he's only 6-7.
33:40
And look at that come to fruition all come together last
33:44
night in in Tampa. And I mean, like it wasn't just
33:49
the physical part either. Like Florida was talking the
33:51
whole game. I think I think you got to see
33:55
it in in one particular circumstance when Cooper Koch
33:59
was talking to Thomas, How could the free throw line and I'm
34:04
assuming Thomas was talking some some some stuff to Cooper and
34:07
Cooper turns to him and smiles and says, come on now.
34:10
And I mean like that's that's just like what that game was
34:13
last night. I would did not back down.
34:15
They were not going to just let Florida walk all over them.
34:18
Even when it was a 4.5 point lead it towards the end and
34:21
everybody's thinking Florida's going to pull away.
34:23
Nope, Nope, not a chance. I mean, it it was what Ken
34:29
McCollum did with a bunch of mid major guys.
34:31
They're going to the Sweet 16. I mean, it's just and first time
34:35
in 27 years. And I'm sure you're listeners
34:37
have heard that all day today, 1999.
34:39
The last time it was just I mean, how can you not walk away
34:43
from a moment like that, not just be flabbergasted at what
34:46
Ben McCollum has done with this program in less than I mean,
34:49
he's been here for about a year now.
34:51
I mean, it's just wild. I mean, how lucky are Iowa fans?
34:55
Yeah, this is the tip of the iceberg.
34:57
I truly, I truly, we believe that and hope that's right.
35:00
I do want to ask you this because I was, I was at home
35:02
like most of the, like most of our audience was.
35:05
And we're listening and we're watching the game.
35:07
And at the end of the first half, Mccollum's going crazy at
35:10
the officials. I thought you're bitching for
35:13
like half a second like that's going to make a.
35:15
Difference. And that's what the commentator
35:17
thought it was they thought. It was this and then when you
35:19
come to see it later, the Chintaloo just absolutely
35:23
destroyed your rock from behind. That had to be what was McCullum
35:27
was upset, correct? Yeah, he was absolutely insensed
35:32
for good reason. I mean, you guys saw that
35:35
replay, it looked like had football patched on.
35:37
Yes. Snuck up on and tried to take
35:40
him out. Yeah.
35:41
That that that was a bit saved by the officials.
35:43
And I honestly think they they made-up for it at the start of
35:47
the second-half on a foul call on Chin Lu.
35:50
I think it was at the basket. I think it was Pavion trying to
35:53
get to the bucket. And it was just a really
35:55
crushable foul call. And I think McCollum made his
35:58
point. And they're like, yes, you're
35:59
right. They saw it on replay and they
36:01
they gave it back to him. And that's how officials got to
36:04
do it. Sometimes if you missed a call,
36:05
you got to make up for it. I think McCollum.
36:09
McCollum made his case. No.
36:10
And they thought and and they and they, you know, they think
36:13
they did what they had to do. You know, if you're a foreign
36:16
man, you hate that. But well, maybe channel
36:18
shouldn't have tried to run over Trevin your ox through freshman
36:22
from behind. So I I think that that's half
36:26
often officiating honestly, like they weren't perfect by any
36:29
means, but you got to do what's right and and sometimes that
36:32
includes make up calls. And you know, the other thing
36:36
talking about channel over one from the field, 0 points, 4
36:41
fouls, if you I mean like that is gold in 19 minutes.
36:46
That's a gold standard for playing against one of the best
36:48
athletes in the country, one of the best big men in the country.
36:51
Like that's, that's just phenomenal.
36:54
I want to jump ahead because we will still really relive this
36:57
Florida game and this will be one that we'll talk about for a
37:00
long time. This is going to be there and
37:03
it's going to be a memory for a lot of people for a very long
37:05
time. Up next is Nebraska obviously
37:08
split during the regular season. The scouting is going to be much
37:11
different for this one and now how do you come up with a third
37:13
different game plan against this squad with the turn around with
37:17
the Huskers and obviously the weapons that they have that
37:19
weird defensive strategy that they have.
37:22
Your thoughts on the match up as you get ready now to depart to
37:24
Houston next. Man, if if Florida was a crazy
37:30
environment, have to think Eric Tampa, you have to think this
37:33
one's going to be crazy too. I mean, to have two heated,
37:37
heated competitors or or rivals face off here in the Sweet 16, I
37:43
mean, what more can you ask for Nebraska, who has just won their
37:47
first NCAA tournament game ever in Iowa, back to the Sweet 16
37:50
for the first time since 1999. I mean, man, like, I think
37:56
that's the first thing that you got to think of is, is, is
37:59
Bennett Sturtz because he hasn't been struggling as of late.
38:02
He really has. I don't think he's had a really
38:04
what anybody would consider a really good game since they beat
38:07
Ohio State at home by 17 points just a few weeks ago.
38:11
So you're you're hoping for that if you're an Iowa fan and and
38:14
you're hoping that this this team collective effort can
38:17
continue because man, it is getting you far against really
38:21
talented teams. So couple of those things are,
38:25
are huge. And I mean, maybe, maybe Bennett
38:28
just serves as a lock up defender like he did the first
38:31
time they played Nebraska against the price Stanford
38:35
taking him the basically the whole game.
38:37
So, yeah, I mean, there's going to be a lot to this coming game.
38:40
There's going to be a lot of emotion, a lot of intensity, a
38:43
lot of fans from both sides. And then I I can't wait.
38:46
Like this is, there's been a few moments where Sean and I've been
38:49
sitting in Tampa and like This is why we do this job.
38:52
Like this is and it's it's even bigger now, taking on arrival on
38:57
the Sweet 16. So.
38:59
Yep, you're, you're hoping to take that momentum, you're
39:00
hoping to take that effort on the glass and to maybe, maybe
39:04
take it beyond the Sweet 16. Last thing for me, Elliot, as
39:09
you've seen this, you're a younger guy, you haven't seen
39:12
this kind of success for men's basketball and getting just to
39:15
the second weekend. You've been around the program
39:18
now, you've been in Iowa City, you saw the environment start to
39:21
ramp up, including that Nebraska game, which was about as good as
39:24
you're going to find what it was like against Michigan wrestling,
39:28
maybe looking at a downturn. Women's basketball, they're
39:31
still selling out, but you would wonder about sustainability.
39:34
Is there a real opportunity here for Iowa basketball, for the
39:36
men's basketball program to reignite this fan base and get
39:40
back to what it was for me growing up?
39:41
For a lot of our listeners that are out there for the older
39:44
generation, is there a chance that Iowa basketball can get
39:47
back and be a consistent winner and maybe more importantly, have
39:51
the finances and the NIL budget to go out there and spend and
39:54
compete year in and year out? Well, I'll, I'll, I'll speak to
39:59
the first point and I'll, I'll say hell yes, like they're,
40:01
they're going to fill up Carver next year.
40:03
Maybe not on on a super consistent basis, maybe not
40:06
spell out the whole season like the women have.
40:08
But they're going to they're going to have some sell out
40:10
games and they're going to be able to get up against some of
40:12
these top opponents. And you know, I think the
40:14
biggest thing is that Ben McCollum is going to get his
40:17
high major guys there too. Ethan Harris coming in, Trey
40:20
Thompson should be available and and should be ready to play next
40:24
year. Plus you're going to get a
40:25
couple more transfers and these guys want to play for Ben
40:29
McCollum. That's why Brendan Hawson ended
40:31
up at Iowa. Sure, he hasn't panned out the
40:32
way he wanted it to, but that's why that guy ended up in Iowa.
40:36
And, and, and Ben's reputation is only going to continue to
40:39
take this program further and further.
40:42
I, I, I mean, how do you watch that?
40:45
How do you see that effort from those guys?
40:47
And not if, if you're not one of those pavion banks dudes, I
40:50
mean, if, if you are one of one of those guys, how do you not
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look at that and say, Oh my God, I want to play for Ben McCollum.
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And, and I, I really would be surprised if, if this team
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doesn't continue to take the momentum and, and capitalize on
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it. I mean, Ben, Ben said is much
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last night he said he, he really thought that the, the fan base
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is back and, and, and should be back after this.
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And I agree, man, like everybody's been saying, Oh,
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it's going to be disappointed at the end of the year.
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Oh, you know, all these things for the last, however many years
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of, of Fran and, and, and and Licklider and Alford and so many
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different, you know, situations, players, whatever.
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Well, now you can't say that anymore.
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You know that these teams are going to come in and compete
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and, and Ben McCollum was the right choice far and beyond.
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And, and he's just getting started that, you know, one
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thing that people have said is this might be his worst team
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personnel wise. And when he's he's at Iowa and
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that might be true. I mean, and they're going to the
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Sweet 16. So anything is possible with Ben
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McCollum. At least that's the way it feels
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right now. No doubt it hasn't worked out
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well on the floor for House, but I'm not sure you saw at the end
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he's up there on the scores table after the game was decided
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just going crazy. So he's, I thought.
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I thought I'm chirping. In front of you, Probably you
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had to be. Close to you.
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That was right over there. That's good stuff.
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Safe travels. Thanks for jumping on.
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Appreciate it, Ellie. Thank you.
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Awesome. Thanks guys.
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Good. To talk to you, Ellie Clough as
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he calls us from the crapper. I didn't want to say anything.
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I don't know him that well, but doesn't it sound like the toilet
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flushed? Well, it might have been on
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speakerphone in the library there in one of the side rooms.
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I think that's. So sure, that wasn't an
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automatic flush. It happens.
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Or maybe guy in the next stall, you'd never know.
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Privacy snake in, do this little hit here and guy in the next
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stall, let him fly. But we appreciate the effort,
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Elliot. We really do say trip.
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Then right back on an airplane tomorrow to Houston.
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Take your time out. Come back and wrap up the hour,
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Miller and Condon on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
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Hi, Miller and Condon. Welcome back minute.
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Our number one, Bill Seals kicks off the second hour of the
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program. More on Iowa State as they March
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on take on Tennessee. They will be, This will be an
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Andrew Catalan. What's Lapis's first name?
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Steve Lapis, Steve Lapis and Evan Washburn.
43:05
Meanwhile, Iowa gets Kevin Harlan, Robbie Hummel and Stan
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Van Gundy about that, and Lorraine Shahadi will be the
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sideline reporter. But those are the crews coming
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up Thursday and Friday at their respective sites.
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Drivable to Chicago, Drivable to Houston.
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Little little longer trip but but.
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You can get there in 12 hours or whatever the case may be.
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I'm anxious to see both arenas. How many fans of the respective
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teams make their way down there and hope you pack for the for
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the weekend because I think both of you are moving on.
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Wouldn't that be unbelievable? I know we said it before, but it
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truly is just that they're alive.
43:44
Both of them. Sweet 16 and on Jefferson's
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status. I guess they'll do it go a long
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way to determining today's taking MRI.
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I'm sure it's already been done by now.
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Whether we find out anytime soon or not, who knows?
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They will fly. They play Friday, so they'll fly
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Wednesday. Yeah, it'd be Thursday press
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conferences, so yeah. So I'm not sure that I was.
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Well, I wish State will have a media availability before they
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leave here or not. Well, Bill Seals will know, and
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we'll ask him when we come out. And we're going to have some
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hoops that we're going to be watching here coming up in 10.
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Yeah. So is it going to start on time?
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Well, the Alabama Louisville game is a 2 point game inside of
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two minutes left in that one. I'm sure if that game goes long
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they'll try to stretch it out as long as possible.
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Would they park it on the deuce or?
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On then, yes, yeah, if they do have to get started, if we get
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overtime, then yeah, they'll probably start over on ESPN 2.
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They have whip around coverage too.
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I wonder, since we're in the state of Iowa, if they'll just
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flip to that and if you want to work.
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For me, yeah. Well, we'll figure it out, but
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regardless, the Iowa women, after an hideous opening round
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game that was bad against Fairly Dickinson, they survived.
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Now they get the 10 seed Virginia.
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Our two next Miller and Condon Iowa Sports Radio Network.