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Lunch with the Clydesdale and Cowboy - What is Legacy for CrossFit Athletes · Clydesdale Media Podcast

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Well, today is Friday.
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You know what that means?
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I don't have to go to work tomorrow.
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From the gym to the screen, yeah,
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we cover it all.
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Midday motivation every time you press
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call.
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Lunch with the Clydesdale.
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Cowboy bring the heat.
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Crossfit, boobies, music on repeat.
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Half hour hustle, yeah,
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we building that brand.
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Grab a plate, tune in now,
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you part of the fam.
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It's lunch time.
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What is going on, everybody?
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i got a comment on our youtube video
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the other day from helson abernas mr
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helson he said he was listening to our
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show with earbuds in at the grocery store
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and when the theme song came on he
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found himself dancing down the aisle
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throwing stuff in the basket just come on
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grab some pasta put it in a basket
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yeah hundred percent i don't know why you
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wouldn't i love that our theme song is
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that catchy
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i want to know does he did he
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think like he find that odd like he
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that wasn't going to happen was it the
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first time he had ever heard it because
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like i well you and i and vicky
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all are all just sitting here just bobbing
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and weaving while it's going on waiting
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for it to finish up so i mean
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that's a thing yeah yeah but hey taking
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it dancing at the grocery store is like
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a step yeah step up yeah definitely
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Judy Reed and Vicki and I keep doing
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that again.
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I'm not used to having help, guys.
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I'm not used to having help.
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Judy Reed, like that color on your shirt,
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Corey.
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Remember, everyone deployed.
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It has absolutely nothing to do with Ohio.
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Yeah.
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I was just going to say it's a
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nice salmon color.
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It's technically red.
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It's just really terrible lighting in here
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in my closet.
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Heel, yeah.
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Yeah, heel, yeah.
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You know what color shirt's really cool?
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This color.
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Look at that.
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Yep,
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shipped out I think twelve shirts last
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night.
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That's a mighty big stack of bags you
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had on that post.
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If you had ordered your shirts prior to
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Seven p.m.
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Eastern time last night.
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Your shirts are in the mail.
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They're already there.
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They're gone.
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Off.
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Whoosh.
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We're talking about a U.S.
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Postal Service.
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Probably not whoosh.
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It's probably more like a whoosh.
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It's probably more like, yeah, come on,
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boy.
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Pony Express.
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Mm-hmm.
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Vicki so kindly put up the picture of
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the shirt and the Venmo and the cash
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app QR codes thirty two dollars with
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shipping that includes shipping and
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handling and that is if you're in the
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United States to all fifty states we've
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already hit ten states ten out of fifty
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and look Meg says she just ordered last
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night
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That means I've got the District of
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Columbia,
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so that'll be eleven out of fifty-one.
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Need to go into New York?
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Not yet.
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I need to go bug Garrett and Colleen.
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Yeah, put name, size,
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and address in the memo, please.
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Thank you.
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Mike DeVito,
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who I think is getting a shirt right
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now.
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Hey, well, not right now.
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It's in the whoosh mail.
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Probably not right this second.
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Soon.
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Hey,
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my mom's parents retired from the USPS,
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and yes,
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they will confirm the dumpster fire.
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There you go.
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Bananas crazy.
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That's an interesting comment,
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Mark Phillips.
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Do we think Ms.
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Voigt-Miller listened to the show?
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So she is a subscriber to this channel.
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She has commented in the chat and she
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has commented on videos.
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So there is a chance that Becca
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Voigt-Miller listens to the show.
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And I do like the fact that she
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put out that post yesterday.
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That's amazing.
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Good on her.
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If she's listening right now, kudos.
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Awesome.
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Thank you.
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Thank you, thank you, thank you,
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thank you.
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And if you don't know what I'm talking
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about,
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she put out a post yesterday on Instagram
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saying,
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if you're a Masters athlete and you have
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concerns or feedback as to how the Masters
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CrossFit Games went,
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please send them to her so she can
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address it on the CAC.
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I am super curious as to how many
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she got inundated with.
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Like how, how many, like, you know,
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she opened up her email this morning and
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there was eighty seven messages in there
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because it wouldn't be hard to do.
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I think you're underestimating the number
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of messages she's getting.
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Oh, I sent several people.
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I don't think she knows what she opened
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herself up to.
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I don't think she understands a can of
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worms that she just uncovered.
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No, not at all.
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Not at all.
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Maybe she does know.
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Maybe she does know and is like, okay,
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let me gather all these things in one
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place so I can bring them to the
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next CAC meeting and be like, hey, look,
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here's a hundred emails from a hundred
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different Masters Games athletes.
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And they're all saying three things,
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whatever.
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It's pretty strong evidence at that point,
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right?
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Um,
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can I just say Becca Voigt Miller is
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one of my favorite people in the world.
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I say that a lot, but yeah,
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she was my,
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she was one of my analysts when I
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was with the morning chalk up.
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Yeah.
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Um,
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she used to do the bottom line with
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me and, uh,
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because she was at the time,
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even though she made semifinals and she
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competed at semifinals,
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she was truly a master's athlete at that
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point.
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Yeah.
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And so she was giving analysis on the
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workouts and all of that stuff.
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She was awesome.
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She's fit, dude.
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And she's cooling the flip side of the
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pillow.
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Okay, probably dumb,
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but I still think when people say the
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CAC, it's still funny.
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Like,
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what was the focus group like when they
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settled on that?
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I don't think they had a focus group.
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I think they were just like,
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what are we going to call this?
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I said, well, it's an athlete council.
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Okay.
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So this is a CrossFit athlete council.
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Yeah.
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So the CAC.
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Yeah.
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Cool.
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And they probably never took it into their
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brain that people were just going to start
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calling it the CAC.
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Right.
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That was probably not ever an option that
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somebody just like, oh,
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maybe they just called it the CAC.
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Nope.
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But we like acronyms.
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Yeah.
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I work for government.
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So everything gets turned into an acronym.
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Yeah.
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then everybody pronounces it so yeah
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anyway it is what it is it's never
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not going to be funny true uh corey
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i still do not know how you finished
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at monster games did you beat gleich
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nobody beat john um cows and crossfit said
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uh he meant he would that corey was
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only counting the dms from jamie those
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were the first that's a fact
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Oh, again, like I said yesterday,
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all she said was what everybody in the
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Masters at age group has been thinking for
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quite some time.
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She just happened to get it all out
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in public.
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Good.
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And all out in like, fifteen minutes.
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All the stuff came out all at once.
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Good, dude.
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It needs to be said,
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and it needs to be said on a
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public forum.
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It can't just keep being said between the
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Masters athletes themselves who just talk
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about it and are,
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I don't want to say scared,
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but otherwise may not necessarily have a
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voice or a platform to be able to
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get it out there so that maybe something
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can actually be done about it or at
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least have it be recognized.
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Hey,
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we understand that this was what it is,
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and we are actively working to change it.
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Again,
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not that I'm expecting anybody to say that
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this is,
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we understand what was going on and,
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and we're actively rooting to change it.
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But if it got, if,
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if that or us talking about it or
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whatnot is what got Rebecca, excuse me,
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Becca to make that post yesterday,
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inviting people to email her and whatnot
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so that it could be brought up then,
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Hey, job done.
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Did I mention to you that Lito and
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I used to be friends?
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Can I express to you, like,
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I love you guys in the chat.
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I truly do.
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But can I express to you how much
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I really don't care why Gabby withdrew?
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To me, like,
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and here it is back to, like,
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it's sport, right?
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Yeah.
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Someone withdraws, I've already moved on.
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Oh, that sucks.
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Okay.
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I'll spend a couple minutes thinking,
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okay.
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I wonder why, blah, blah, blah.
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And then I've moved on to Eileen worse,
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who was a backfill and finished like.
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Fifteen to eighteen somewhere in there.
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I don't know the exact number.
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Yeah.
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Mid pack for sure.
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That's a cooler story to me than why
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she withdrew.
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Absolutely.
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And that's sports.
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And now we have a producer.
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yeah now he just that's perfect good lord
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she's on top of her stuff i love
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it um she also she also uh threw
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together some images of colton flying
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yesterday she sent a couple over and those
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are fantastic they were fan freaking
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tastic i said it i sent it to
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david johnston he was like oh my god
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that's amazing i was like yeah agreed
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there he is uh the flying hog colton
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mertens
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If you guys don't know,
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being five foot something and a hundred
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and ninety,
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hundred ninety five pounds and being able
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to lay out like that and make that
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dive is not an easy thing to do,
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especially at the end of a workout.
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I'm just in case you guys were wondering.
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Well,
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if you're a male and you lay out
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like that, you know,
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they're going to be repercussions.
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Hundred percent.
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That isn't going to happen.
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And so you have to give up.
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You have to give yourself up knowing that.
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Yeah.
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Things are going to hurt after that dive.
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It's probably not going to be great when
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you wake up.
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Well, when you stand up, rather get up,
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but it's the kind of sacrifices you make.
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I remember Tim Paulson in the height of
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his career dove across the finish line,
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I think, ninety percent of the time.
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I don't think I've ever seen.
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Yeah.
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I don't think I've ever seen Tim just
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like get across the finish line.
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Now that you say that.
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Yeah.
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Because he was one of – first of
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all, you couldn't miss him, right?
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Bright red hair.
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Not quite as bright as Lito's,
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but dude's definitely a ginger.
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I just – first of all,
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the first thing that always comes to mind
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is Tim Paul's send because him sending it
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on that echo bike workout that one time
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when he just got on it and just
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tried to break it.
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Yeah.
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uh but yeah i think about it it's
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dive it's you know feet first jump slide
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whatever i don't think he's ever just like
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hopped up onto the platform and called it
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good um peter benoit so does the test
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to get into the crossfit games actually
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get the top fittest athletes if a backfill
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gets eighteenth
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I don't think it's an indictment on the
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test, Peter.
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I think it's an indictment on the method
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in which we do it.
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I think anytime that you do online...
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There's ways to gain.
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So there is a difference between someone
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who can do a workout three times,
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figure it out,
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and get a really good score by the
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end of the weekend,
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and someone who is given the workout and
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must accomplish it right then and there in
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the moment at the time.
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You cannot test that pressure piece of it
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online.
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No.
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Some people can handle the bright lights.
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Some people can't.
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Some people perform better under the
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bright lights and some people just don't.
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So that's why everybody loved regionals
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because part of the test of regionals was
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you have to finish top five or you're
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done or you're done.
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And that tested that, that pressure piece.
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So we got the best people who could
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handle that at the games.
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Of course,
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there could be multiple reasons why that
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person was only a backfill.
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Online brings cheaters.
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There are so many factors.
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But I do think that when you're getting
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down to that,
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the online last chance qualifier,
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online semifinal,
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whatever you want to call it at that
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point,
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there weren't a lot of people doing that.
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The video review was much more intense for
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that.
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But I do believe that it does not
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test the pressure cooker that is.
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Lito makes a great point too.
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It's also not a single test as there
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are multiple ways to get through.
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Yeah.
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And look,
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the people who are on that bubble, right,
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like her, it's not like they're not fit.
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So, okay, she gets a backfill invite.
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Cool.
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Now, all of a sudden, she's mid-pack.
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Well,
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if she had done a little bit better
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on the day,
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she wouldn't have had to worry about a
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backfill invite,
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and she probably still would have finished
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mid-pack.
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Well, and I think in those semifinals,
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it was one or two points difference
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between – Yeah,
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she was knocking on the door.
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Yeah.
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We're not talking about huge advantages of
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the people who got in and she didn't.
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Or the guy that nobody knew who he
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was.
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I keep wanting to say Gonzalez.
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Or Gomez.
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I don't remember.
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That's how much, right?
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Manuel Reyes?
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Reyes.
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That's him.
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Close to Gonzalez.
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Almost there.
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It's Spanish.
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I'm sort of Latin origin.
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Nobody knew who that guy was?
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And apparently they still don't.
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And they still don't.
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I still couldn't tell you his name,
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obviously.
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But, I mean,
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they were asking other athletes about him,
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and they were like, he legitimately said,
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I have no idea who that is.
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And apparently he competed in the team
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games too,
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and they still couldn't remember that.
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No.
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Unbelievable.
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Joseph Ramirez wants to point out that not
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all Latins are the same.
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You are definitely a special one, Mr.
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Joseph.
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David Reed had a comment.
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Vicky, you had up for a second.
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I look at the open as a baseline.
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There's a certain level you need to make
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semis.
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Semis has a baseline to get to the
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games.
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If you meet that baseline,
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you're fit enough to handle the games
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test.
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I think from a fitness perspective,
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all of that is true, David.
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yeah but i think from a spotlight in
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front of a large crowd thing isn't tested
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in any of those yeah and that can
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make or break an athlete at the highest
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level and you know what that is that's
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sport that's sports um
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before we dive into the last little thing
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and i do have a one o'clock meeting
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today so this isn't going to be a
17:07
super long show um we talked about the
17:11
cac and how the twelve-year-old humor in
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us all thinks that that's still funny do
17:16
you know what's still funny and i forgot
17:18
it was funny is king of the hill
17:20
oh god yeah so those kids could read
17:23
they all be highly upset my wife and
17:29
i watched the last two episodes of last
17:30
season because the new season just
17:33
kicked off i don't think i've laughed out
17:36
loud at a show that much so it's
17:41
all mike joe dude that dude is he's
17:45
a hell of a writer he really really
17:48
is there there's a scene in the next
17:50
to last episode of the last season where
17:54
i rewound it three times just so i
17:56
could laugh again just because like i
17:58
didn't get enough of that hold on let
18:00
me get up let me get a little
18:01
bit more of that
18:03
And all it is, all it is,
18:04
is Peggy is playing pickleball.
18:08
And the Asian woman has told her that
18:13
she's great at pickleball because of her
18:15
wide hips.
18:16
And she has taken exception to that.
18:18
So now she's playing with ferocity.
18:21
Right?
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Yeah.
18:22
And she goes to plant and her knee
18:25
pops.
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And all of a sudden,
18:28
all you hear her say is,
18:30
son of a bitch.
18:33
And she falls to the court.
18:36
And I could not stop howling.
18:42
Because every time something like that
18:45
happens to my wife,
18:46
that's exactly what she does.
18:47
She goes, son of a bitch.
18:52
And I kept rewinding it going, that's you.
18:53
That's you.
18:54
Does that sound familiar at all?
18:58
I know it should.
19:00
That is fantastic, dude.
19:01
That is absolutely fantastic.
19:04
That's one of my favorite shows.
19:05
Bobby, autocorrect can duck off.
19:11
He's beyond his name.
19:15
That boy ain't right.
19:18
That boy ain't right.
19:21
That's a fantastic show.
19:23
I cannot say enough about it.
19:26
If you didn't know,
19:27
they brought it back like a year ago.
19:30
And now Bobby is a hibachi chef at
19:36
a half Japanese, half Texas barbecue.
19:45
That in and of it's a,
19:46
you can stop right there.
19:47
I guess that's, that's enough.
19:49
That's not, um,
19:53
i need to find because i they they
19:55
took it away but um mike judge also
19:58
did the tales from the tour bus i
20:01
think you and i've had this conversation
20:02
before um where he goes they tell stories
20:06
about uh the first season was all country
20:11
country singers so like george jones and
20:13
whatnot it's all animated looks just like
20:16
king of the hill right but it's people
20:18
telling actual stories of stuff that
20:21
happened and then they animated
20:23
oh my word it's fantastic dude like um
20:30
because it's all real stories and it
20:32
starts off with mike judge who's animated
20:34
by the way he animated himself talking to
20:37
the camera
20:38
And it explains like what's fixing to
20:40
happen and whatnot.
20:41
And Johnny Paycheck, George Jones,
20:46
some other like songwriter types and
20:48
whatnot.
20:48
And it is absolutely hilarious.
20:50
And the second season was strictly focused
20:53
on George Clinton.
20:58
And and like the whole like, dude, oh,
21:01
my God, it's so good.
21:03
So that dude is fantastic.
21:05
He George Clinton.
21:06
Yeah.
21:08
George Clinton lives in Tallahassee,
21:10
Florida.
21:12
I lived in Tallahassee for four years.
21:16
I ran into George Clinton picking out a
21:19
sweater at a Sam's Club.
21:24
And if you don't know who George Clinton
21:25
is,
21:26
his hair is eighty-seven different colors.
21:30
And he's the leader of the P-Funk
21:32
All-Stars.
21:33
P-Funk All-Stars, baby.
21:36
And to see him over there holding up
21:38
a sweater with the dreads of multicolored
21:44
rainbow.
21:46
Oh, my gosh, dude.
21:49
I'd have lost it right then and there.
21:50
I'd have been like, nope, that's enough.
21:54
That's enough.
21:55
I don't need any more.
21:55
And my wife's like,
21:56
you going to go say something to him?
21:58
No.
21:59
First of all, he's a large man.
22:01
Yeah, he is a big dude.
22:02
He's a large man.
22:04
Like, no, I'm not going to go.
22:05
What do you want me to go say?
22:06
Hey, good choice.
22:08
I like the brown one better.
22:10
Yeah.
22:11
The brown one goes better with your skin
22:12
tone and the three different colors you
22:14
have in your hair.
22:16
No, dude, you're not doing that.
22:22
Anyway, Mike Judge is brilliant.
22:24
Of course, we've gone off the rails again.
22:26
Yeah.
22:28
From Beavis and Butthead through King of
22:30
the Hill.
22:32
I don't know if I'm,
22:33
I don't think I ever missed a Beavis
22:35
and Butthead when I was in college.
22:38
I've seen most of them.
22:42
And then Daria, Daria, Daria.
22:44
Daria.
22:46
Daria.
22:47
Yeah.
22:52
Anyway, so we,
22:54
yesterday the homework assignment was that
22:56
we have,
22:57
we have a guy who just won his
22:58
second CrossFit Games.
23:01
What is his legacy?
23:03
Our executive producer, Dr. Vicki,
23:08
sent me an essay that she wrote on
23:10
what is legacy.
23:15
And her point to the whole thing was,
23:18
it's not really what you do on the
23:20
floor that creates a true legacy.
23:24
It's more like...
23:27
all the intangibles and the things that
23:30
come from that that you do off the
23:32
floor.
23:34
And our example is like Rich didn't only
23:36
win four titles.
23:38
Rich elevated everything.
23:41
He owns an affiliate.
23:44
He owns a programming company.
23:46
He owns a training camp.
23:48
He went on to the teams and elevated
23:51
teams for six years.
23:54
All of that stuff.
23:55
Right.
23:56
And so I,
24:01
I totally understand where she's coming
24:02
from and I don't disagree with it,
24:06
but I think it all starts with,
24:07
you have to be great on the floor
24:09
first.
24:10
Yeah.
24:12
Right.
24:15
Yeah.
24:15
I wouldn't even necessarily say you have
24:16
to be great.
24:17
You have to be good enough to be
24:18
recognized.
24:21
have to be good enough for people to
24:22
remember who you are to where it gives
24:25
you the capability and the ability and
24:28
well-liked that probably is also a thing
24:30
on there to be able to do all
24:32
those other things because otherwise
24:35
you're just some dude who competed at the
24:36
games yeah so like joseph is saying it's
24:43
too soon for justin and james legacy talk
24:46
I don't think it's too soon for Justin.
24:48
And I think Justin is doing things now
24:50
that he didn't do a couple of years
24:51
ago that are going to change what we
24:54
look at as his legacy,
24:57
that van trip to go from affiliate to
24:59
affiliate to affiliate and do the drop-ins
25:03
with his buddies and handing out gear and
25:07
prizes to people up and down the coast
25:11
of California.
25:12
Like those are the things that are going
25:14
to change Justin's legacy.
25:17
Or let's say add to it.
25:19
Add to it.
25:20
Sure.
25:22
Because no matter what,
25:23
so the guys that only won once,
25:26
like the Ben Smiths and the, you know,
25:29
Jasons and whoever else,
25:32
you still have a legacy because just by
25:35
virtue of winning,
25:36
you're going to have some sort of legacy.
25:38
How you want to be remembered is what
25:40
we're getting into with all the extra
25:41
stuff that you do outside of it to
25:44
where people have their perception of you.
25:46
There's that saying that, you know,
25:48
people aren't going to remember the
25:49
accolades.
25:49
They're going to remember how you made
25:50
them feel.
25:52
Right.
25:54
Clayton,
25:54
while Matt did most of those things and
25:56
his legacy is significantly less than
25:58
Rich's, it isn't a standard formula.
26:00
I agree with you.
26:01
Yeah.
26:02
I agree.
26:04
But Matt,
26:07
I think that Matt going on Rogan hurt
26:09
his legacy more than helped it.
26:13
the three hour and whatever that was
26:15
minute podcast did more to damage his
26:20
reputation and his legacy than in anything
26:23
he has done.
26:24
It's just starting to come back now.
26:26
Well, five years ago.
26:29
Yeah.
26:30
And the fact that he,
26:31
I think the fact that he participated as
26:33
much as he did in the games this
26:36
year is a step to rehab that legacy.
26:39
A hundred percent.
26:41
One percent.
26:43
Just the fact that he showed up,
26:45
he came out there.
26:45
He was he again,
26:49
like we talked about earlier,
26:49
he visibly seemed to be enjoying himself
26:52
on the floor with the microphone,
26:54
giving out the workout,
26:55
all of the things like that goes a
26:57
long way.
26:59
whether people want to admit it or not,
27:01
just the fact that he looked like he
27:02
was enjoying himself when people still,
27:05
even though that was forever ago,
27:07
still had that picture in their mind of
27:09
him sitting there talking to Rogan and
27:11
telling him all the crazy stuff that he
27:12
said, right,
27:13
or stuff that we would think would feel
27:15
like it's crazy.
27:18
Now all of a sudden you're on the
27:19
floor and you look like you're enjoying
27:20
yourself.
27:21
Oh, okay, you actually want to be here.
27:24
That goes a long way.
27:26
because he really distanced himself from
27:28
crossfit oh hundred percent um
27:32
intentionally or not that's what ended up
27:35
happening doesn't pat have a legacy in the
27:38
space he does i everybody has a legacy
27:42
it's just how big that or how great
27:46
it's a it is perceived to be yeah
27:49
right the fact of the matter is
27:55
both brent and pat have a legacy i
27:58
think their legacy is tied together
27:59
because for some reason because they're
28:01
both canadian people think they're family
28:04
and so because they're both and they both
28:06
had a rookie year the same year and
28:08
they like that whole was that when i
28:12
you know they just showed up on the
28:13
scene all of a sudden together even though
28:15
pat had been on a team like two
28:17
years before that that's why they're
28:19
they're they're lumped together
28:24
And they both love them or hate them.
28:29
Them,
28:30
the actions they took after the Lazar
28:32
death did something to their legacy.
28:37
And whichever side of the fence you were
28:40
on, it either, in your eyes,
28:43
made it better or made it worse.
28:45
Yep.
28:48
mike devito honestly and i love matt for
28:50
his accomplishment but i think his
28:52
appearance was strategy to ensure his
28:54
business growth like now all of a sudden
28:57
you care i think mike you're being a
29:00
little bit too harsh when i became a
29:04
dad my perspective on everything changed
29:07
hugely and matt just gave well he didn't
29:12
give birth but his
29:14
I hope he did.
29:14
That would have been awesome.
29:16
His wife has given birth and he has
29:17
become a father.
29:19
He's the goat,
29:20
so much so that he's given birth.
29:23
And when that happens,
29:28
your perspective on the world changes and
29:31
your perspective on life changes.
29:36
I've interviewed Matt on this show.
29:40
I have talked to Matt in person several
29:42
times.
29:44
Never once did he come off as the
29:46
guy on Rogan.
29:47
Right.
29:50
Never once in real life did he do
29:52
that.
29:54
And so we have all these perceptions and
29:58
how we perceive people to be,
30:01
and that's not always reality.
30:05
So I think that Matt will forever have
30:08
a legacy.
30:10
Will it ever be Rich's legacy?
30:12
No.
30:12
No.
30:14
They're not the same people, though.
30:18
Matt has never, one way or another,
30:21
spoken publicly about his faith.
30:22
There's no, you know,
30:24
there's not that component of it.
30:26
Matt doesn't have HWPO hunt and, you know,
30:30
the things that they do for all the
30:33
stuff that Rich does, dropping into,
30:35
you know, if he's somewhere,
30:36
he's going to drop into a Mayhem
30:37
affiliate.
30:39
You know, Rich,
30:40
he's just a different type of person.
30:43
if you know anything if you guys have
30:46
met matt fraser is an engineer brain works
30:51
fundamentally fundamentally different than
30:54
most everybody else on the planet rich is
30:59
a and god forgive me for just saying
31:01
this but rich grew up being a jock
31:03
an athlete his brain also works
31:05
fundamentally different than most people
31:08
on the planet
31:09
They look at problems differently.
31:10
They solve problems differently.
31:12
It's not going to be the same people.
31:14
It's just not, right?
31:15
I mean,
31:16
there's not necessarily anything wrong or
31:18
right about one versus the other.
31:21
It's just a different approach.
31:23
And I think, like you said,
31:25
I think Matt has,
31:27
they got two kids now, right?
31:28
Yep.
31:29
Yeah.
31:30
A hundred percent softened,
31:33
especially now that we got two.
31:34
And like, you become a dad, dude,
31:36
especially with two.
31:37
That's all that matters.
31:39
sure them kids are okay they got food
31:42
they're loved roof over their head whatnot
31:47
um so i think that's why you saw
31:49
a little bit of a a shift you
31:51
know like ramirez was saying when they
31:53
talked about the games this year like he
31:54
seemed way more relaxed than he was last
31:56
year yeah i um
32:03
talked to him a bunch at the syndicate
32:04
crown a couple years ago he was there
32:06
it was when hopper was still with him
32:09
and he was there coaching and he was
32:12
a he was a joy to talk to
32:13
honestly um because he wasn't competing it
32:18
wasn't like first of all i think hwpo
32:22
was a a creation that matt o'keefe came
32:25
up with to capitalize on the success of
32:28
matt's career
32:30
I don't think Matt ever felt that he
32:33
was going to be a coach.
32:35
He'll tell you he never was.
32:36
He never wanted to be a coach.
32:38
Right.
32:39
And so I think,
32:40
and the other part of this is finding
32:43
where he fits,
32:44
like hiring Justin Kotler to take over the
32:46
coaching lead of HWPO and him being able
32:50
to say, hands off.
32:53
I'll come in.
32:54
I'll talk to the athletes.
32:56
I'll do whatever I need to do was
32:58
the best thing Matt could have ever done.
33:00
Yeah,
33:00
probably the most shrewd business decision
33:02
since H H W has been a thing.
33:04
Let me get one of the best coaches
33:06
in the,
33:06
in the space and put him under my
33:08
wing,
33:09
especially saying where Justin was like,
33:12
he just wants to coach.
33:14
He didn't want to run the under all
33:15
the underdog stuff and do all the managing
33:17
shit.
33:17
Why he's told you that right here on
33:19
this show.
33:20
Yep.
33:22
Match made in heaven.
33:26
Um,
33:28
Mike says, if he wants HWPO to survive,
33:31
HWPO needs to be a huge part of
33:32
the community.
33:33
I bet you if you polled every CrossFitter
33:36
in the world,
33:37
you would be shocked the high percentage
33:41
of people that do HWPO programming.
33:45
I wouldn't be.
33:47
It's a lot.
33:48
I know it's a lot.
33:49
I know several athletes,
33:50
friends of mine that follow it and have
33:53
for quite some time.
33:55
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34:19
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34:21
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34:27
sean you are speaking the truth the
34:32
demands that vicky has made on us it's
34:35
terrible it's terrible the paid vacation
34:38
like one day into her job was probably
34:40
highest on the list so far yep um
34:44
why do you think we're selling t-shirts
34:46
that's number one reason as soon as that
34:48
happens scott's like i gotta get these
34:49
t-shirts dude
34:52
Merch just to afford Vicky.
34:54
Our corporate meetings are really, really,
34:56
they're intense.
34:58
It's crazy.
34:58
Yeah.
35:05
I think that's a good way to stop
35:06
for the week.
35:09
Going into the weekend,
35:09
I've got this one o'clock meeting.
35:13
But I do want to pull up Shanna's
35:14
thing because this is my experience with
35:16
Matt and I want her to share this.
35:20
shanna's comment vicky it's it's right
35:22
there yep yeah well we can dock her
35:28
ten dollars for that um matt talked to
35:31
me for fifteen minutes at the venue
35:33
fifteen i thought that was insane and he
35:36
did all the talking yeah yeah he like
35:42
in person he's great i interviewed his mom
35:44
that was one of my favorite interviews of
35:46
all time
35:48
Hearing the stories of young Matt and the
35:53
rebel kid that he was and that he
35:56
never listened to the rules or the...
35:58
I have no problem believing any of that,
36:01
by the way.
36:03
None whatsoever.
36:05
I can believe that he was a little
36:08
badass growing up.
36:10
The story she tells about them going
36:12
skiing...
36:14
And all of a sudden,
36:15
they heard those rumors of this kid
36:17
flipping off of a ski jump,
36:19
doing multiple flips and twists and all
36:22
this stuff.
36:23
And she looked at her husband and goes,
36:25
I know it's Matthew.
36:31
Like, yeah, that's going to be mine.
36:32
Let's go find him before he gets us
36:35
all kicked out of here.
36:38
Yeah.
36:39
they went over and he won like some
36:41
big prize for best ski jump or whatever
36:44
and he'd never done it before um so
36:51
yeah with that hope you guys have a
36:54
great rest of your day i'm not gonna
36:57
do anything to mess up vicky today hans
37:01
hands jack
37:04
With that,
37:05
I hope you guys have a great rest
37:06
of your day and weekend.
37:08
We'll be back for Sunday Night CrossFit
37:10
Talk.
37:12
You never know when Jamie's going to go
37:13
off on another rant.
37:15
Could be right now.
37:17
But until then...
37:19
You wouldn't wait to get to the editing
37:21
room to jazz me up.
37:23
I'm already jazzy.
37:34
Lunch with the Clydesdale Cowboy in the
37:36
saddle.
37:36
Lunch with the Clydesdale Cowboy in the
37:38
saddle.
37:39
Talking to reps,
37:39
real life strength in the battle.
37:43
From the gym to the screen, yeah,
37:45
we cover it all.
37:47
Midday motivation every time we press
37:50
call.
37:52
Lunch with the Clydesdale Cowboy in the
37:54
heat.
37:54
CrossFit, movies, music on repeat.
37:56
Half hour hustle, yeah,
37:57
we building that brand.
37:59
Grab a plate, shoot it,
37:59
now you're part of the fam.